WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:13.519 This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to the WWE podcast, the 2 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:27.719 show the one that everybody wants me God stand for sixteen, so your ass 3 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:34.119 is minn. You can acknowledge me. Hey, everybody, welcome to the 4 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:38.000 WWE podcast. Here. It's a very special Friday edition of the show, 5 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:43.079 Friday, November tenth, twenty twenty three. And the reason we're bringing the 6 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.600 show to you is because we have a special guest and his name is Sharon. 7 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:50.240 I'll be playing that recording in just a minute, but I want to 8 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.759 thank everybody for listening here, and I want to preface this is this show 9 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:57.640 is a little bit different in that some of the content we talk about up 10 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.479 front is not wrestling related. It's twenty minutes or so of you know what's 11 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:06.599 going on in Israel and his experience and you know what's going on in his 12 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:11.200 life and that kind of thing, and a little political stuff that is unavoidable 13 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:12.879 if we're talking about Israel. So I want to preface it by saying that. 14 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.200 So if you're you know, you press play and you're like, oh, 15 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.920 well, I don't want to hear any of this stuff. I don't 16 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:19.760 want to hear politics, then he may want to skip to like halfway through 17 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:23.400 the show, but I think it's worth listening to even if you're not a 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.040 political person. You know, we don't talk about politics. This isn't a 19 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.719 debate, okay, It's just what's going on in his country and everything else 20 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:38.280 that has resulted from it for him. And so it just wanted to preface 21 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.760 that as a bit of a disclaimer. I know that this show we keep 22 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:46.519 politics out, but in this case bringing somebody in from Israel, it's impossible 23 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.159 to not bring a little bit of that in, but just the reality of 24 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.920 what's happening over there. So I wanted to let you guys know. Okay, 25 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.480 so it is a little bit different, but we do talk about wrestling 26 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:57.959 for the second half of the show, we really do. We dive into 27 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:01.239 Roman Reigns. We dove in to Cody Rhoads and who if Cody Road should 28 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:06.079 be the one to beat Roman Reigns and some other stuff. So check that 29 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:10.120 out. Not a deep dive into any anything crazy, just some high level 30 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:13.960 stuff on how he views wrestling, a little bit of aw believe it or 31 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.639 not, towards the end of the show, So check that out and thank 32 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.000 you guys for listening, and I do want to also thank Sharon. He 33 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.520 recently joined us over there on Patreon. I did see that and I do 34 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:28.639 appreciate it. It's much appreciated for you to come on the show. And 35 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:34.240 I also want to thank let's see Martin. I think I thank Martin earlier 36 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:37.639 for being a patron of the show. I wanted to give everybody a shout 37 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:43.879 out that joins us here and Zach also, Zach recently joined us on Patreon 38 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.240 as a paid member, So thank you Zach for your patronage. And I 39 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.520 appreciate everyone who is taking their time to listen. So all right, we're 40 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:59.000 gonna get to Sharon and myself right now, and i'll be back Sunday with 41 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:01.479 the weekend review. Of course, the SmackDown review is coming your way, 42 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:07.479 and Anthony DeMarco's show of the exclusive after Dark show that he did is being 43 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.840 released probably excuse me, around the same time as right now that I'm releasing 44 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:19.599 this show. And the topic that he's going to be talking about is John 45 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.080 Cena and the future of the US title. So that'll be the topic for 46 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.360 those of you who are on the SmackDown tier and higher on Patreon. It's 47 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:30.840 a very non PG show, but that's the topic Anthony's talking about. If 48 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:32.479 you want to check that out. All right, Thanks, everybody, take 49 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:40.719 care and we'll talk soon. Welcome to the WWE Podcast, everybody. It 50 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.879 is a special Friday edition of the show, and I promise you guys, 51 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.400 earlier in the week we'd have a different guest on the show, and it's 52 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.159 exactly what we're doing tonight, as we have Sharon from Israel. You guys 53 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:58.680 know him from the mailbag and from his emails over the last year or two. 54 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:00.319 I feel like it's been at least a couple of years since you've been 55 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.120 listening to the show. It could be wrong, but we're gonna talk about 56 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.840 wrestling. We're gonna talk about his thoughts on what's going on, his love 57 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:11.919 for Cody Rhodes, and we're gonna talk about all that stuff in just a 58 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.919 few minutes. But first I like to introduce Sharon. How you doing, 59 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.040 man, Hey, mat Hey, everyone, so happy to be here with 60 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:21.680 you. We are not in the night. We are like in the afternoon 61 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:29.079 of Isvielle. And yeah, it's very nice. It's very sunny here. 62 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.959 It's the winter already in your place. You do you have snow, not 63 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.560 yet, but we've seen flakes of snow, but it'll be from about you 64 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:42.360 know, November until April. So yeah, it's so crazy here and neither 65 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:46.000 like every year we say to ourself this summer, it's like the autumn summer, 66 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:51.360 and like this summer, like we are already in the f of November 67 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:56.519 and still in no rain, sunny. We can go to the beach, 68 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.720 but most of the time I'm in my place, in my house in as 69 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:09.879 well. I can report you a little bit to what happening like around And 70 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:15.240 first of all, it's so nice to have a conversation with you about resting 71 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:21.360 and to be a part of the ww podcast in this time because you really 72 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:28.120 need so much escapism where there is so much war and bad things happening around 73 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:33.279 you this time. And I'm really happy about this opportunity. So thank you, 74 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.519 thank you so much. Well, it's great to have you here. 75 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.879 You know, this has been a difficult time or a difficult time, not 76 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.000 just for you, but to just connect because of our time difference from New 77 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.360 York to Israel to a bit of a you know, a time difference there. 78 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.639 And I'm glad we were able to connect. But before we get into 79 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:55.439 some of the stuff going on there some good news. You have a relatively 80 00:05:55.480 --> 00:06:00.160 new addition to the family ten months old, so tell us all about that 81 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:06.000 changed your life. It's ten months or really really good thing. And from 82 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:11.399 the other side, you have kids as well, so I guess you already 83 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.279 understand. I mean, I feel like it's like free airs of a strong 84 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:23.160 struggle, and so much things happened, and like I got to say, 85 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:29.560 when I had my baby, like ten months ago, it was like the 86 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:34.560 happiest thing that happened in my life. But from that date, like every 87 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:39.920 day can be so much of a struggle, especially like the first month, 88 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:45.000 and like we are like so much of a fresh parent, so awter you 89 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.839 change a diaper, why it is crying so much? Like we're dying to 90 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:55.000 make him sleep. And I'm also a teacher, like I'm teaching really really 91 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.920 early in the morning, so I add like nights without sleeping, and I 92 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:08.120 came to the school to the students and like I little bit of the classes, 93 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.680 like I slept in the class in front of my students because that was 94 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:17.920 so it was hard. But now it's good. Now it's good. It's 95 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.680 better, he became a human. He smiles to us, he said, 96 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:29.040 their mom and father and like not in English but in the neborw But yes, 97 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.279 no, that's that's a great way to describe it, where it's it's 98 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.519 so joyful, but it's also the hardest thing you'll ever do in your life. 99 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.000 And then you know some most of us do it over again. I'm 100 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.959 not sure if you and your wife are planning to have another, but it 101 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.920 certainly changes up your sleep patterns in a way you didn't know you could survive 102 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:51.959 on such little sleep, where you think you have a pattern down with the 103 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.399 baby, and then they flip the pattern around. They're up three hours in 104 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.680 the middle of the night, you can't even stay awake, and then there 105 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:03.199 they'll sleep for another hour, wake up, need you know, need a 106 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.959 bottle or need a nursing from their mom. And it's it's one of those 107 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.920 things that you just it will make It will sober you. It will make 108 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:15.000 you into a man, whether you want it to be or not. And 109 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.839 it also is the best thing ever because, as you said, while you 110 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:20.480 don't probably remember the last ten months, it's all a big blur, which 111 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.600 was for me anyway, it does bring so so much joy in your life 112 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.360 and as you have you know your wife i'm sure probably feels the same way, 113 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.320 where it's so difficult and you're also trying to not be short with each 114 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.879 other, which is difficult because you're both on so little sleep and you're getting 115 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.919 frustrated with one another because you feel like you need to sleep, and it's 116 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:43.159 this whole struggle, but it is one of the best things. Yes, 117 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:48.200 no one can prefer you for those things we need, like getting so much 118 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:56.159 affluent families of like sometimes like five children even if they are not Thoro religious 119 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.519 and it's three, and all your friends have babies that's even from a young 120 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:07.159 age. So no one can prefer you for this. And when you're getting 121 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.279 to the point point that it's started, it's like it's like you and your 122 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.279 life in your own journey. Like the parents can help you and their friends 123 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.559 and you see videos in the YouTube, but in the end it is just 124 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:22.960 you in front of your baby, and you have to succeed it, like 125 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.879 you don't have like the luxurier, like you're like you're leaving a job or 126 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.519 like a project or you have to succeed it and to be like the best 127 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:35.279 in it. And if you're doing like the little mistake you, oh no, 128 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.120 my baby will be bad, like for the rest of his life if 129 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:46.840 I didn't change the diaper. Right, it's like so weird, and yeah, 130 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.679 yeah it is. And you just have more responsibility than you realize. 131 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.440 Where you said, you know, you don't have an option, you can't 132 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.039 screw up. You know, you are responsible for this human being now and 133 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.639 how they get raised is now up to you. And like you said, 134 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.879 you can't be prepared for it. No matter how many times people tell you 135 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:07.200 things and you hear things in YouTube and all that, nothing will ever prepare 136 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:09.720 you for what you go through. And that's a good thing and a bad 137 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.600 thing. But ultimately, I mean, I have no regrets. And my 138 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.080 wife and I probably done it too, because we're starting to get our lives 139 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.679 back a little bit for you know, for us anyway, where we you 140 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.159 know, they go down pretty easily, their nap times are very regular, 141 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.480 they're much more self sufficient, whereas right now, you know, a ten 142 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:30.879 month old, i'd imagine is it a boy or girl? It is a 143 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.799 boy. Boy. Okay, So he's not walking yet, right, he's 144 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.399 probably crawling. Yeah, he's not walking. He's crawling. He's trying to 145 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.440 go what you said in English, like to be on a fixed position like 146 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.679 nies and ants together. Yep, this is what he's trying to do right 147 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.440 now. And yes, and by the way, is every time that you 148 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.919 lift your baby, you'll think to yourself, I get to do like at 149 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:03.440 the adjustment or like power slam, like something like that. Every time that 150 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:09.919 I'm not doing like something like that. Now, I'm not trying to set 151 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.120 you up for a pedigree, you know, I know, I know, 152 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.440 Well that's great, it's you know, it is such a it is a 153 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.960 thing to be joyful about, especially during what you know, what's going on 154 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:22.240 over there. And I do want to touch on it briefly, and I 155 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.799 know I understand guys, listen, this is a wrestling podcast. We will 156 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.360 get to wrestling and for the majority of the show, but I have to 157 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.639 ask, you know, based on what happened on October seventh, I mean, 158 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.200 that is something that I mean, even in America here, like some 159 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.960 of the videos I've said, I can't even put it into words. Everything. 160 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.039 I'm obviously you're there, you know when you first heard about it, 161 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.120 Where were you, what were you doing? Were you at work? What 162 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.240 was going on? It wasn't Saturday morning, And what did I do on 163 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:58.639 Saturday morning? I thought, mackdown and then look no, like we lately. 164 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.759 August, we moved from the center of Viseel, like from Tel Aviv 165 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:09.200 to the north of Isel, to Haifa. The parents of my wife are 166 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.639 from Haifa, so we went to there to help with the baby. It 167 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:18.720 was easier for us. And in October we did like a little vacation, 168 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:22.679 like to see the family. And in the vacation that we did in the 169 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.919 center, then the sirens went on like six in the morning. And you 170 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.480 know in Isel, I don't know if you know about it, that we 171 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.799 do have like every year or two or three years, like we have like 172 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:41.519 a thing with a gaza, and we do have like little bit sirens and 173 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.840 rockets all around. So we were really it was usual thing for us, 174 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.840 like we said, go to the shelter or go to the stairs in the 175 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:58.279 building, and like just wait a few moments and then news started to get 176 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:05.200 on with I just said, the terrorists come to the village just near the 177 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:11.559 fence, like near gaza, and then things were got really really escalated and 178 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:18.080 it got really really different, and the Saturday went like it also was weird, 179 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.919 but I don't know if you really heard about what happened because we didn't 180 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:30.360 have a situation like this Sizel. Ever, this is not a political thing, 181 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:35.480 but people need to know that. Right now in Gaza, we have 182 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:41.240 like two hundred and forty people that are kidnapped by Hamas. We have a 183 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:50.000 lot of people that died and got bad things from this organization, a terrorist 184 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:56.120 organization. A lot of people got evacuated from their houses. So it's not 185 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:03.600 like a propaganda thing, but from all of our listeners, is not in 186 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:09.960 a good place right now if you seeing your news that literally doing bad things. 187 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:15.200 We are protecting our country. People got our people got really bad things 188 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:20.080 in our place, and we are really kind of in a drama right now. 189 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:26.279 It's bigger than anything that ever happened to us. But we are a 190 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:31.639 strong country. We are strong country, and some of us even got a 191 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:37.360 little bit of routine because I'm in Haifa and I'm far from Gaza. So 192 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:46.600 our school became normal again and students go to the school again and work is 193 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:52.000 getting good. And in Ipha, we didn't got any sirens, just one 194 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:58.360 like a month ago, but that's it. And it's really really weird for 195 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.159 me as well that I am like in a different reality. I'm like in 196 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.159 a different place because they don't have any sirens. Nothing happened to my place. 197 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:15.840 Like I hope that nothing bad weapon in the future, and maybe we'll 198 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.799 get to a war with Lebanon in the near future or not. I don't 199 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.039 know. But right now I'm trying to like to get a little bit of 200 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:30.440 the routine that I have here and like be good with that and trying to 201 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:39.879 do escapism with you. And yes, yes it's away times, but it's 202 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:46.000 hard times, like Cody Worlds saying, but we're getting it through that your 203 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.759 your dad isn't Cody Ear isn't Dusty Roads too, is it? I hope 204 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:54.360 that so I know, that's it's good to hear that you're far enough away 205 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.480 where you you know you're it's still something that absolutely, I would imagine it's 206 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.000 on the back of everyone's minds all the time, even though you've returned to 207 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.960 somewhat of a normal routine because you're further away from the war zone, that's 208 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.960 still you know, I wouldn't be able to go down the street anymore and 209 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.080 think, hey, you know, I'm perfectly safe. Nothing all over happened. 210 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:18.519 I think that sense of security has been shattered by what's been going on. 211 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:23.320 But do you see, even though you're further north, do you see 212 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:29.559 you know, in a rise in security or do you still see do you 213 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.000 see police out more? Do you or is it just feel like kind of 214 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.240 still you know, a normal day or do you see things that are still 215 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:44.320 different? So in ifl every boy or girl that he is above eighteen years 216 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.080 old got to go to the army, it's like three or two ways, 217 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.240 like you got to do it. And now like after you finish the army 218 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:59.600 and if you're like doing like a war job on, like if you are 219 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.839 in and they are, they invite you to go to the army again. 220 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:08.759 If like there is a war, there's like like your you need need to 221 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:15.200 exercise or something like that. And nowadays in Iselle, we have most of 222 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:21.440 our men's and a lot of our women's, a lot of our people go 223 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:26.279 to the army again although they are old. Some of the army people that 224 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.680 go to the army again, some of them even like sixty years old. 225 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:37.799 So much people go to the army again, and like there's like army people 226 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:41.160 in the streets. They are like as I said, the police in the 227 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:48.119 roads that they're checking everyone that come to your city. And there is there 228 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.920 is a lot of security, but it's also like the feeling that everything is 229 00:17:52.000 --> 00:18:00.640 different, everything is different, and because like for example, like our agriculture, 230 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:04.640 agriculture we have like agriculture in the in the north, in the south, 231 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:10.920 and people went out of those places because there is like a danger of 232 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:15.640 terrorists. So people from all over the country went to go to to do 233 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:22.359 an ar guitar, to a job like to get vegetables and fruits in order 234 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.759 like to help those people. And like a lot of people went to do 235 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:32.759 like a community jobs and help to the army and do the people that got 236 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:40.519 evacuated from their house. All the country are in the doing of war and 237 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.480 it's really great to see it now. I don't know if you heard the 238 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.440 news before October, if you heard a little bit about Israel, did we 239 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:55.920 had like a little bit as I said, it wasn't in that size, 240 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.720 but we had a big fight in our people. Well, I don't know 241 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.759 if you heard about it. We had like a thing like between Biden and 242 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:11.519 our leader Nathan Yao that United States really got mad about us because we wanted 243 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:18.440 to do like a reform in a judical or something like that, and we 244 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:23.680 had like a big fight in our people. We didn't have like a civil 245 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.839 war, but we did have like a lot of bad feelings between us. 246 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:36.039 And when the war comes, everything just got disappeared. And it is bad 247 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:40.200 because of course there's a war, but this is so good to see, 248 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:45.400 like the people got united again because they understand that we are together and we 249 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:51.920 can't lose. And it's really nice that we had like a pointed everyone are 250 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.400 together right now. And yes, I have a brother in the army right 251 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:02.480 now. It's not like in a dangerous thing, but he's in the army. 252 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.759 He has friends in the army as well. Our people in the war 253 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:11.119 right now. And we are not quiet. We are not in a good 254 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.200 situation, like I said about it. And yes, I don't know like 255 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:22.279 how much time it will go on, and maybe I will ask you. 256 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.319 I don't know, like if where you're living, qf something like that, 257 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:33.559 but do you feel around your place like antisemitic things or like Palestinian protests or 258 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:41.440 so you know, you would think with what Hamas did right that there is 259 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.400 no way to justify it. You would think that there's nobody on this earth 260 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:49.240 outside of those who are in mass that could say, yeah, what they 261 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:55.200 did is justified. You would think that, But there are people, especially 262 00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:00.759 you'll see in big cities which are heavily democratic in the United States, you'll 263 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:07.319 see a lot of I don't know if they're protests, You'll see free Palestine 264 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:14.319 protests, which you know is kind of it's it's someone anti Semitic. Just 265 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.200 by saying that, I don't want to get into too far into that, 266 00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.599 but there are a lot of people who feel like, you know, what 267 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:26.319 Hamas did, while it was terrible, is no worse than what is happening 268 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:32.160 now with Israel bombing Gaza. But what they don't understand is like Hamas used 269 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:37.839 and continues to use civilians. They target civilians, whereas Israel and the forces 270 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:42.880 that are going that are opposing Hamas are targeting Hamas. But Hamas, the 271 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:47.440 casualties of civilians are going to happen because Hamas is using them as shields. 272 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:53.119 Hamas has there, they have tunnels, they have built their headquarters underneath hospitals. 273 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.519 They shield their civilians. I mean, I don't need to tell you 274 00:21:56.680 --> 00:22:00.680 know this, so like you would think that all of that can't be justified. 275 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.759 But somehow people feel and I don't think it's the majority here, but 276 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:11.799 there are certain protests you'll see here in the cities of like Free Palestine. 277 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.200 I don't think they really understand what's going on, or they feel that the 278 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.279 people who are retelling against Amas should do a ceasefire. It's like, no, 279 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.519 why would you do a ceasefire when you just had the worst possibly you 280 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:29.880 had the worst slaughtering of Jews since the Holocaust, which is just true. 281 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.400 That's it's true, and you're just supposed to sit back and wait for what 282 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.160 another attack this is you know, I don't know, so I'll leave it 283 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:41.400 at that. But no, we are seeing pro Palestine, you know, 284 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.480 rhetoric around here, not a ton, but when you see it, you're 285 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:49.000 just either they don't know what they're talking about or they are truly anti Semitic. 286 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.839 I got to think, Matt, that it's really brave what you're saying 287 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:59.480 right now, because just in like what you said social and network things. 288 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:06.279 If like people again like right now say that your podcast, what you said 289 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.200 in your podcast is it's not right, it's fake news people from ISEL their 290 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:18.000 Instagram and Facebook got erased and got blocked because so much a proper studiums said 291 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.599 that what they're saying about the war and Isel, it's fake news and like 292 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:30.559 it's anti anti human rights things. And what you're saying right now, I 293 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:36.559 think that you now the world understand like what we are dealing with all those 294 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.319 years, Like for so many years people said to us that we are like 295 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:48.640 occupied like another people on another territory. But if you see the shots and 296 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:55.799 like the videos from Gaza, you do see like the Israeli soldiers letting the 297 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:02.920 other civilians go out of Gaza and the Hamas people are trying to shoot and 298 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:07.920 like try to make them not to escape from Gaza. I don't want to 299 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:11.960 go like so much into politics anymore because this is like a show on wrestling. 300 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.319 But I got to say, I don't know if you remember, like 301 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:22.759 two weeks ago, I did said something and if it's okay, like we 302 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:29.039 will go like to wrestling now. If you want to say one more thing 303 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.079 about or something like that, or to ask me, sure, yeah you 304 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:36.400 can. We can finish up on that topic and then we'll move to wrestling. 305 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.400 So go ahead, because First of all, I need a skepticism so 306 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:44.200 much. You don't like in the in the Saturday that everything happened, I 307 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:49.160 saw like SmackDown like like I have to saw like SmackDown like so much. 308 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.319 I didn't want to see the news. I wanted to see one that happened 309 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.400 with Roman reigns and SmackDown and John Cina. Don't tell me about hamas they 310 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:02.640 want to see John Cina. I feel like that I need this escapism so 311 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.400 much, like every time that because it's all over the place. I can't 312 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:11.200 go to Facebook, I can't go to Internet. It's everywhere. You talk 313 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:18.440 with your friends, you talk about that, it's everywhere. So wrestling it's 314 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.799 like, this is my part of escapism. Everyone talking about this thing. 315 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.839 I know we are in that situation, but please let me like go out 316 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:33.079 and do like other things and talk about the only good right now? Yeah 317 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:41.200 you're okay, okay, Yeah, So I do want to speak about wrestling, 318 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:47.039 but it's still a little bit related to what happening in Isuel. And 319 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.799 two weeks ago we had the role and we had the Semisen the thought to 320 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:57.680 talk about its promo with the judgment day, and if you remember, I 321 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.279 said in the Mailbag podcast that is just celebrating three years. Did you know 322 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.519 that you are celebrating three years? Did someone say that to you already? 323 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:14.400 I didn't for the mail Bag, Yeah, I didn't know. No, 324 00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:18.039 I'm just kidding because everyone said the good birthday to the mail Bag then, 325 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.680 and you say, like whatever I say to the mail Bag. Sure. 326 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:29.519 Yeah. And if you remember, we had like Semizen talking about the oppression 327 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:36.000 with the Judgment Day and I said that I think that he's speaking about Israel 328 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:41.480 and Gaza. And then other Israeli podcasts that speak about wrestling that we have, 329 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.400 like two of them said the same thing like me, that they two 330 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:52.759 feel that Semizen spoke about the conflict between Palestine and Israel in this show when 331 00:26:52.799 --> 00:27:00.519 he said something about oppression. And also Palestinians had like this kind of YouTube 332 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:07.279 things that said Semisain support us and not Israel. And if you're looking in 333 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:14.400 the history of Semisaen, you will see that you have like supporting Palestine and 334 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:21.920 not in Israel. And that made me feel bad in two main ways. 335 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:27.000 First of all, because of Semizain, why do you have to put politics 336 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.119 in wrestling? I really like your character, I really like you why do 337 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.880 you have to make me feel okay, I don't like you anymore because you 338 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:45.279 have like a political agenda, like I don't look about your wrestled I don't 339 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.799 look about your character. The moment you said like you have like a political 340 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:53.079 agenda against me? Why do you do that? It's so weird. And 341 00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:59.160 second of all, WW didn't put like anything. First of all, it 342 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.799 didn't say anything like we are we are part of your we are said because 343 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.200 of what deppending Israel, like other places do that, like the NBA, 344 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.000 or like other places do this as well. But W rely didn't do this. 345 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.680 And we have like Paul Ahman and other Jewish competitors that are part of 346 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:21.960 WW, even like a w part of them said the things about it, 347 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.680 but WW didn't say anything. And after what Sammy Zane said, they also 348 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:33.279 didn't say anything like I don't know like how many people it's bothered them to 349 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:40.519 the Israeli wrestling audience, it's bothered a lot. And yes, like what 350 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.400 do you think about it? Yeah, that's I'm a big fan. Even 351 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.160 though right now and being a bit hypocritical, as we've spent the first twenty 352 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.839 minutes talking about the political aspects of the Hamas attack and the things happening here 353 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.359 in the US. I never do that here, but I mean, I 354 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.000 think it was necessary to discuss that now. As far as Sammy Zain goes, 355 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.359 I'm a big fan and big believer of staying keeping politics out of wrestling. 356 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:07.440 No matter what your stance is or how right you think you are, 357 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:12.519 it's not a place for it because we have a million other places trying to 358 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.319 shove it in our face all day. Anytime you go on social media, 359 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:22.079 Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, wherever, you're going to see somebody's political beliefs 360 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:23.920 in front of your face. And some you may really agree with, some 361 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.279 you may not. But the fact is that we don't need any of that. 362 00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:30.839 Even if it's something I really agree with and I'm like, hey, 363 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.079 you know, I really like that message, I still don't want things I 364 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:40.039 agree with politically on WWE programming because it's not the place for it. It's 365 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:44.519 the place you go to get away from that stuff because you're seeing it ninety 366 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:49.079 percent of your day. So when anytime somebody brings political, politically charged language 367 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:56.680 like Sammy's Ain did a couple of weeks ago into television, I don't care 368 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.160 if I agree with your message or not. That's not the point. It 369 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.799 shouldn't be there. And his his equivocation of oppression. Anytime you say the 370 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:10.319 word oppressive in today's culture, it's it's already got politically charged notions in it, 371 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.359 because we understand kind of what he's talking about, given the state of 372 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.000 what's happening in Israel and other places around the world too. But like, 373 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.119 I don't want that in my wrestling. I don't want anywhere near it. 374 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:30.119 I don't want any anything again pro or pro or against your message. So 375 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.079 yeah, I'm I'm i plod WWE for not giving into any of the political 376 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:38.039 pressure to uh, you know, to BLM when Black Lives Matter was a 377 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.200 big thing a couple of years ago here, they didn't bring any of that 378 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.240 in. Some of the superstars did wear like small little things that said like 379 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.200 BLM or whatever, but it wasn't put into promos. It wasn't you know, 380 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:56.480 there wasn't any propaganda put into the commercials or into anything. There wasn't 381 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.480 like a you know, hashtag on the ring, apron none of that, 382 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.400 And it's it's it's just it shouldn't ever be It's a place to go that 383 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.240 you can just forget about what's going on for a little while and pretend you're 384 00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:11.680 in this environment that you can just have fun in and there's no consequences in. 385 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.240 And that's that's what it is. It's like playing in the sandbox. 386 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.599 I don't want to be I don't want to be disturbed in my sandbox. 387 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.720 Just let me play and escape what my life with the bad things that are 388 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.200 going on right now. So when Samy Saint said that, yeah, I 389 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:29.240 was just like, come on, man, yeah, And I got to 390 00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:36.319 say that right now, wrestling like like like f general and WW specifically are 391 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:42.400 in a really good good time and like you can see so much of AWWWE 392 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.960 impact like New Japan so much like fans all around the place, all around 393 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:55.279 the world, and you think to yourself that you can do just like wrestling 394 00:31:55.400 --> 00:32:00.720 context and you don't like even like you don't have Vince McMahon, Like you 395 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:05.880 can remember in Vince era, you had like all kinds of political things that 396 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.480 he got into his show, Like what was the name of this person, 397 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:16.480 Hassan after the nine eleventh thing? You remember that, yeah, Ahamed sound 398 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:22.759 Yeah, And they had like like another thing we said and the slaughter and 399 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.160 the iron cheek. It was like a political thing, like he had a 400 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.319 lot of a political thing in the Finns makeman era and you don't need it 401 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.279 right now. You have like great stories and great people and great wrestlers. 402 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:40.079 And it was great if the WW didn't say anything, but Samisen did say 403 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.680 a thing, but w W didn't say like a thing back that it supports 404 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:52.319 is well and trying like to put it like aside, I'm succeed about it. 405 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.400 But every time I see Semizenlaw, it's like I don't want him, 406 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:04.119 and it's weird, it just swird feeling them. But yes, like I 407 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:10.079 just wanted it will be like a political free and will keep being like escapism 408 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:15.759 to myself because I so needed right now, I can imagine. I mean, 409 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.480 I think to some degree we all do. I mean, of course, 410 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.960 there's probably not too many people listening here that are close to a war 411 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.559 zone, actually close to a war zone and dealing with you know what happened 412 00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:30.240 on October seventh. I know I have listeners in Israel, and I you 413 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.559 know, wish everyone there, you know the best, and everyone please stay 414 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:38.319 safe. But you know, the political end of things in wrestling. The 415 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.799 only thing I can think of in the last twenty years, besides the examples 416 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.640 you provided, is when nine to eleven happened here, there was a group 417 00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.400 called the un Americans and it was like Christian Test and somebody else I can't 418 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:59.559 remember, and Lance Storm maybe, and they were trying to burn flags on 419 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.440 TV. Of course I never actually did. And you know that we were 420 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:08.079 trying to without talking about nine to eleven, capitalize on UH ON, on 421 00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:15.360 the events of UH nine to eleven by bringing political bringing patriotism that had been 422 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.760 on the rise since nine to eleven UH into the wrestling storyline because everyone at 423 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.840 that point was you know, everyone felt united at that point, and they 424 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.920 were the UnAmericans who were trying to burn flags and like so you've seen it 425 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.320 throughout the years. But I do applaud generally, you know, for WWE 426 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:37.719 not bringing in political agendas into the company. And yeah, the Samy's any 427 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:40.320 thing. We'll have to see if he continues to push that kind of stuff. 428 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.079 I hope he doesn't. We don't need it. I don't care what 429 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.840 your message is. It just doesn't belong there. So well, let's let's 430 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.280 get a little bit harder into the wrestling side of this, because that's, 431 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:53.079 uh, you know what we're here for. But uh, what do you 432 00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:59.280 what's your take so far on the Roman Reigns run. Are you ready for 433 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.880 it to be over? And if you are, who would you have him? 434 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.440 Who would you have beat Roman Reigns for the Championship. I got to 435 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:16.480 say that before your maybe show yesterday, I like some of the people in 436 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:22.800 your maybe show Maybe show said that Roman maybe like as like parts of cancer 437 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.719 or still have like cancer in his body. And this is the one of 438 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:35.679 the reasons that it's not wrestled so much. And even with that reason, 439 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.440 I got to say something that it sounds like a little bit hard, but 440 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:47.280 it's maybe one of the worst runs with Championship ever. In so many ways, 441 00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:55.880 the Roman Reigns reign damaged the Championship, the industry, w WE, 442 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.639 other wrestlers, and even in the first days, I remember, like so 443 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:08.800 clear in the moment that he went ill in a Payback. There was a 444 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:14.159 time that he said that he went ill like in a SummerSlam. Do you 445 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.880 remember that There were times that he said that like Roman Wains were ill in 446 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:23.119 SummerSlam, but he didn't like in Payback, and I and like I remember 447 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:29.280 when I saw that, I was wow, Roman Waing's become Hello, this 448 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.400 is so good, This is so great. And when he started to build 449 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.159 the bloodline, when he went like a story with j U Saw and Jimmy 450 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.760 or So, and like the first deal was great because Roman did the shift. 451 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:50.880 Roman was wrestling. Roman did great things. His match with Edge and 452 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:57.280 Daniel Bryan was really good. His promo were really good. The partnership between 453 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:02.320 em and Paul Aiman, and after we had the semin Zane solosikoa it was 454 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:08.960 the best story in wrestling. But in the moment that he took the championship 455 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.719 from Broke Lessner and tok take it hostage for so many months and like made 456 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:22.440 it that he can wrestle just against people that he wanted to wrestle against, 457 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.880 and the wrestled like I don't know, like maybe like fifteen or twenty people 458 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.840 since he became champion. It made so much damas damage to the industry. 459 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.559 So many people didn't get an opportunity to be a champion, or even wrestle 460 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.440 for a championship or even wrestled to be a number one contender. Also, 461 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:50.599 for so many months, we had like just one championship main championship title, 462 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:59.360 and it was disappearing for so much months because he didn't wrestle, and lately 463 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:06.800 this is also what makes me so upset about this run. It looks like 464 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:14.599 it doesn't care so much. It just comes to one SmackDown or one row 465 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.159 one man event every two or three months, like doing the wrestling thing, 466 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.000 and like it doesn't seem like so much care about it because it's the champion 467 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.360 already, and like we know that no one will win him, like I 468 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:34.400 don't know when I will give my prediction what will be in the future in 469 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:39.519 a moment, but it looks like that it doesn't care anymore. And most 470 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:44.719 of all, and this is like, what of the baddest thing that happens 471 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:52.719 in his run his rivals is the people that wrestle against him losing not even 472 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.480 clean again and again the bloodline people Jimmius Jails so Sami then are doing the 473 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:02.039 same thing every man and make him look and they are losing in the same 474 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:08.000 way. So you think to yourself, like he's not a strong champion because 475 00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:14.639 they have people around him that defending him. He's not Like I don't say 476 00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:17.119 you need to be like seth rulings. But he needed like to defend it's 477 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:22.000 champions so much like a month or two. But he's not doing that, 478 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.719 and no one even like saying, hey, why do you don't do it? 479 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:30.239 Like even l and I didn't say anything about why you're not defending your 480 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:35.679 championship. No one doing it. And yes, and I got to say 481 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:40.639 that Roman race although it was right in the start, and like you do 482 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:46.000 have like the statics of like one thousand and five hundred days or like two 483 00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:52.639 hundred days and know like how much is Daisy champion right now? But it's 484 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.960 not that good. It's not that good. We had better champions that were 485 00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:04.840 champions less time than him. I'm really not good about about it. And 486 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.559 yes, like I don't like it. I don't like it at all. 487 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:14.559 And they do have opportunities to do other great things, but they just said 488 00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:19.440 to ourselves one and when it should be our champion for three or four years, 489 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:24.679 and like everything else should be like less important. And he damaged WW 490 00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:31.280 a lot, and yes, well that was a nice recap, and you 491 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:36.519 brought up some things that I had forgotten about, and you know, all 492 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.559 valid points. Now I think when I look at WWE now and I'm looking 493 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:44.639 at why are they keeping Roman champion? It comes down to one thing. 494 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.800 It comes down to one reason why he is still champion, and that is 495 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.280 just length of time. That's all they care about because at this point we 496 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.559 know Roman can put on good matches. He does, He's a very well 497 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:01.519 rounded wrestler. He is much in proved on the mic. But he himself 498 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:08.519 is not gaining anything from holding onto this championship any longer than WWE feels that 499 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.320 he should be. Meaning WWE is looking at this saying we will benefit by 500 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:19.559 having him surpass Hull Cogan. But in the meantime, Roman himself is as 501 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.679 a character I think, being damaged because he's not there. He's getting a 502 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.119 lot of the criticism. He's not able to work with guys that he could 503 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:31.920 help build, help new stars, help the next generation of stars you know, 504 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:37.239 come about. And now all roads lead to well, we want to 505 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.480 make sure he has a long run. Everything now is just about ticking off 506 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.679 the days so that he can surpass Hull Cogan's championship run. He'll be number 507 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.920 three on the list and then he can maybe get to number two and he 508 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.159 won't be number one by the way there's it's nearly there's almost no way they'll 509 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.159 do that. He will have to be a champion for six and a half 510 00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.880 or seven years. That's how long it would have to be for him to 511 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.760 beat Bruno sah Martino, which is not going to happen, I hope, 512 00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.239 Which means we're just over maybe halfway through his championship run. Like you hope 513 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:14.800 that you want tip and like you think they could feel like they yeah, 514 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:16.960 no, I know. I mean imagine though that we probably would have said 515 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:20.760 a year maybe two years ago, we would have said, no way, 516 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.719 Roman's going to be champion in two years, and here we are, right 517 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.000 like, so, who knows. They may have plans to have Roman be 518 00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.760 champion the next three and a half years. I don't. I doubt it, 519 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.480 but it's I wouldn't put it past them. I still think they're going 520 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.320 to get to passing Hulk Hogan and then after that we can say, okay, 521 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:38.840 you know, maybe let's get it off of him. But all the 522 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.920 sacrifice that they've made, all of the things that they've missed, the opportunities 523 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:50.599 they could have had, all for Roman just having a long run is really 524 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:57.119 not worth it because you're also putting unrealistic expectations on the person who's gonna beat 525 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.840 Roman, that that person's anointed as the next, you know, the next 526 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.519 Roman reigns. That's not a fair label to put on anybody. So I 527 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.480 mean, I'm I really don't care who wins it at this point. I 528 00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.960 despise the Cody character. Maybe we can talk about him next, but even 529 00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.599 I would allow that to happen just to get the championship back, just so 530 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.880 that if Roman wants to come and go on his schedule every two to three 531 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:24.239 months, let him do it. Just don't sacrifice everyone else's careers for the 532 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:30.039 sake of just getting to a mile marker on the number of days that you're 533 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.639 champion. That's been the biggest problem that I've had. So I think the 534 00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.119 prediction, I don't know, I don't know what need to will be a 535 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:44.519 spoiler like Paul manzv that twenty twenty five russell Mania forty one will be the 536 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:50.239 end of Roman Reign's reign. I think maybe against the work, maybe against 537 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.199 someone else. It will be in rustle Mania forty and then like it will 538 00:43:53.280 --> 00:44:00.760 be Roman Cody Part two in wrestle Mania forty one, I don't know how 539 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.159 they're going to do this. I don't know which story they are going to 540 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:09.559 supply us in those year and a half, but I can still see them 541 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:16.679 like putting the Roman reigns rain like until Russell Mania forty one, and if 542 00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:22.960 they I mean probably Cody Wolds will be the one that will beat Roman race 543 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:32.400 and we can start talking about Cody Roads. But the last thing, maybe 544 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.559 you can speak about it in the mail bag in a Sunday as well. 545 00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:45.760 But I sent you a photo of army dust. Yeah, it's like I 546 00:44:45.840 --> 00:44:55.039 mean, if you think about Cody Roads is a mediocre wrestler is a media 547 00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:01.119 caressler because it was a mediacre wrestler until it got fired in WW like seven 548 00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:07.639 years ago. And the story they are telling it's not the correct story they 549 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:15.039 supposed to tell, because they are telling us a story about Cody Roads that 550 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:21.320 is like the new John Cinna, that everyone should love him and everyone should 551 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.639 be excited about him. But they don't give you a reason. They give 552 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:30.000 you like a cool music entrance. They give you like a cool look, 553 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:36.559 a cool character, a happy, good lucking character that I made. I 554 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.599 got to make the fans happy. And this is like the reason that you 555 00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:46.079 got to like him. But if they will tell the real story, they 556 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:52.000 need to tell the story of Cody Rhoads. How much it was a mediocre 557 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:59.079 wrestler, right, they should tell the fans that after he was a mediocre 558 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:06.440 wrestler, he became one of the founders of a W. He made a 559 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.840 revolution in the wrestling industry in the world, he became an important people. 560 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.519 But they are not telling us this story because a W is not existing in 561 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:22.719 the ww universe, Like we can't say anything about it. It's so stupid 562 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:30.480 as well. And Cody Worlds, it just came like two years ago and 563 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:37.800 he did nothing relevant. I mean it just won Seph Orleans got injured, 564 00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:44.360 and then if won the Royal Ramble. They had no reason for him to 565 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.679 win the Royal Ramble. I don't. I'm not talking about the character. 566 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.960 I'm talking about like what he did in his career, and his career didn't 567 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.079 make him like earn the place in the Royal Rambell and then like you earn 568 00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:05.280 a place in WrestleMania, doesn't it doesn't have like any reason to have this 569 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:10.840 kind of special place, like to be against Roman Rains and then like he 570 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:17.960 loses to Roman in the ordinary original thing that happens to all of the enemies 571 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.639 of the Roman reigns, and then like still nothing like really like it didn't 572 00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:29.440 earn anything as well. From this point it became like a Tech Team champion. 573 00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:37.599 He won broke lestener in an unconvincing way. So I gotta say it's 574 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.760 not a thing that I ate Cody Roads characters so much. It just made 575 00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:51.000 up superstar that he wanted to make up new Roman reigns, And to a 576 00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.440 lot of the wrestling fans, I don't see a reason why it should be 577 00:47:55.920 --> 00:48:00.920 the one that beat Roman reigns. I don't see a reason that you have 578 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:06.559 like a place like he have right now. And yes, his character is 579 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:13.159 bad right now, but they're not giving like us like any more reason except 580 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.360 like we have a good song. Is the good people like be a fan 581 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.719 of thing. I don't feel like any like attachment to the Cody words. 582 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:29.320 And yes, and this is they have a character that I don't. They 583 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.800 are very lucky that they're getting the reaction that they are. But like you 584 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.840 said, trying to break this down, I don't know why people cheer for 585 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.360 him. I mean, I understand his dusty rhodes Son. Fine, great, 586 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.400 Okay. That gives you, you know, it gives you a name, 587 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.039 and it gives you a dad, and we know a little bit about 588 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.199 you now for one from one of the greatest wrestlers of all time, Dusty 589 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:53.880 Roads. Great. But outside of that, he left, like you said, 590 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:59.599 he left under the Stardust gimmick, which was laughable. Everyone knew it 591 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:01.800 was a tearble gimmick. He goes over to ae W. He starts a 592 00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:07.280 company over there. He has some matches actually with his brother gold Dust, 593 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.920 and the crowd eventually turned on him, and he, after a couple of 594 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.159 years, acides, this isn't for me. I want to go back. 595 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:19.480 And then he comes back and everyone blows up. Everyone, Oh my god, 596 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.440 this is like, you know, the second Coming. This is great, 597 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:28.880 and it's like, why because he's the first star to come from AW 598 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:32.440 to WWE Is that the reason, you know? Or is it his music? 599 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.639 Is it his bleach blonde hair? What is it? I don't know 600 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.559 why people feel that he is just this this star that he really actually he 601 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.599 doesn't. He shouldn't get the reaction that he does. He's lucky. WW 602 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.920 is very lucky to get the reaction that they have with him, but trying 603 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:53.559 to understand why he does is even more of a mystery. Uh, and 604 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:58.000 it's because he hasn't ever won a world title. I actually think he's a 605 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.639 little bit better of a wrestler than probably you do. I don't think he's 606 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.519 I don't think he's you know, Brett Hart, but I think he's he's 607 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.360 I actually think he's good. I don't think he's great. And then you 608 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:13.679 have a promo ability on the mic that's he's pretty good. But he's so 609 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.599 produced, and he wears suits, and he smiles too much, and he's 610 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.880 just he's too pandering, as I've gone over a million times. So people 611 00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:23.599 seem to like that. Though maybe they get to they like him because they 612 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:27.480 can sing along with his song. I don't know. I'm not sure, 613 00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:31.199 but I just I look at this and nice, I look forward on what 614 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.360 is probably gonna happen here, and I think it's gonna be, as you 615 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.480 said, probably Cody Roads beating Roman Reigns, and it could happen as soon 616 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.440 as Wrestle Media forty. I don't think Roman has any chance of dropping it 617 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:47.079 before forty, and Cody Roads versus Roman two is probably a very likely place 618 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.079 that Cody Roads wins. Now, let me ask you and then maybe we 619 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.760 can move on to a final topic. Is do you think that or would 620 00:50:54.840 --> 00:51:00.119 you be okay with if Roman drops the belt and you get somebody who who 621 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.000 takes it and actually visible, but that person's Cody Roads. Would you sacrifice 622 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.920 the belt coming back to being visible but it's Cody the one that's carrying it. 623 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.639 So first of all, if we continue to speak about Cody, I 624 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.760 gotta say, like I'm comparing him to John Cena. They're trying to make 625 00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.480 him the new John Cina. Everyone should like you. You need to be 626 00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:34.079 like the WWE audio said, like they're all around the wrestler, like faith 627 00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:38.199 wrestler. Everyone will like you. And I think it's like the new John 628 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:45.000 Cina. But if you like compare between Cody and John Cina. I began 629 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.599 to love wrestling twenty years ago when I was ten years old, in the 630 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:54.440 roofless aggression era. These were the time that John Cina came to the good 631 00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:00.920 place, and John Cena and the story that he earned things he came from 632 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:07.360 f c W and yeah fc W. I don't remember which one of these 633 00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:13.079 was the John Cina came off, and John Cina came and he won the 634 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:19.199 United States Championship. He was the prototype. It was the doctor Phangomonic or 635 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:24.559 not remember what it was his name there And I learned to love John Cina. 636 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.559 Over the years, I was his biggest fan. I think he's one 637 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.400 of the greatest of all time, not the greatest of all time, one 638 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:38.000 of the greatest of all time. And I was a real fan of John 639 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:44.920 Cina. And over the years, John Cina earned his place. When he 640 00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.280 became a champion, it was so much of exciting things. When he lost 641 00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:55.840 the champion, I was said with him and John Cinna became like one of 642 00:52:55.920 --> 00:53:02.559 the greatest versors ever. And then I think Cody Rhoads, they try to 643 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:08.400 place him as the new John Cinna. And in the place that Cody Roads 644 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:15.000 right now is located. It's not worth it that it will be the champion. 645 00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.840 I don't want that it will be the champion. That will be Roman 646 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.679 Wayns. We have so many other possibilities that can be good. It could 647 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:30.800 have been a La Night that is so much over right now. It could 648 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:36.360 have been Jay Ulso, it could have been someone from NXTED. It really 649 00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:45.719 earned his place in WWE. I don't want it. They have decided about 650 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:50.360 it. This will be the future. I mean I don't I want it 651 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.199 to be other things. But Cody will take the championship from Roman Waynes like 652 00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:59.559 period that there's no like other option. There is no other option. I 653 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:05.480 think I didn't want this will be the option. But Cody Roads were going 654 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.239 to do this. But if you say, like, oh, so, 655 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.159 the other thing will be like Roman wins will be like the disappearing champion for 656 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:21.719 so much years and like Cody Worlds got to save us from Roman Reigns and 657 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:28.960 got to save us from the evil disappearing the Roman reigns. So I don't 658 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:34.159 buy this story. I don't buy this story that is our Cody Worlds champion 659 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.880 or Roman Wines disappearing champion for so many years. This is the story that 660 00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:44.159 they're trying to tell. I don't think it's so much of a good story. 661 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.920 Probably when Cody Warts will win the champion, people will be so much 662 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.760 happy and there will be so much fireworks, and it will be like the 663 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:59.519 face of Cody will be written in the stars, and like maybe they will 664 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:04.800 change the company named to Cody Rhoades wrestling and not a w W. I 665 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.599 don't know, but yes, it will be like a feeling that, yes, 666 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:14.880 finally Roman ras is not the champion anymore. But it's not a real 667 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:21.320 feeling. It's not an organic feeling. It's like it's not organic for me. 668 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:25.079 Yes, and it stinks that we're coming to the you know this point 669 00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:29.079 in Roman's run and thinking you're saying, I don't even care who it is, 670 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.960 because that actually shouldn't be the purpose of this end of the title run. 671 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.599 The purpose should be the opposite where we're thinking, oh my god, 672 00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.719 okay, it's got to be somebody select And at first we all felt that 673 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.320 way where when this is a special run, you know, whoever beats him 674 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.719 is going to be anointed as the next guy. And they really got to 675 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:47.320 think about it. And I know a lot of people now that are just 676 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.440 saying, I don't care who it is. That should not be the feeling 677 00:55:51.719 --> 00:55:53.840 that that you want fans to have of. I don't care who the hell 678 00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:59.480 it is, even Cody. Just let them take it so Roman can come 679 00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:02.519 and go as he pleases, but not hold the championship hostage and also not 680 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.480 allow other guys to have opportunities at that belt because I don't Again, I 681 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.039 don't want a Seth Rolins defending it, you know, every day twice on 682 00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:14.920 Sunday, which is what Seth Rowlinds seems to do. I think there was 683 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.360 actually some bad things about doing it that way, as I've outlined on this 684 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.840 show before, over exposing the championship, making it feel less valuable, allowing 685 00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.199 anyone to have an opportunity. None of that should apply here. But I 686 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:29.440 also don't want Roman reigns as run. We see we have two extremes. 687 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.920 I need somebody in the middle. We have Roman who's never there and defends 688 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:36.480 it once every four months, and then you've got Seth Rollins who defends it, 689 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.920 you know, eight times a day. And I don't want that either, 690 00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:43.039 Like I want somebody in the middle defends it and it wants every pay 691 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.519 per view once every pl That makes sense, fine, But all right, 692 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:51.519 Well, in our limited time left, I'm gonna let you choose the topic 693 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.199 that we talk about here in the final few minutes. So I don't know 694 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.960 if there's something that you've wanted to discuss or wanted to air on this show 695 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.519 wrestling wise, but I guess the floor is yours if you want to take 696 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:09.480 it so much responsibility? What do I pick? And I would say like 697 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:15.519 two little things. First of all, I know you don't like the wargames 698 00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:22.440 format, but I really really advisive to see wargames in NXT. There you 699 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:28.400 can see like a really aggressive aggressive fight between wrestlers and a real good story 700 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.000 and a real reason for the war games. And if you will see the 701 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:38.800 NXT wargames, you will also understand why you should have a reason for war 702 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:44.880 games match and not just like this is the wargames time to a wargames match 703 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.960 and that's it, because it becomes like Alan Nacel or like TLC, like 704 00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.360 this is the time for wargames, the war game match. So if you 705 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:59.280 have like any time, watch wargames in NXT, and this is one thing. 706 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:04.000 And if you watch NXT as well, in this opportunity, I'll advise 707 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:09.559 you also to watch a rivalry between L. A. Knight and Cameron Grimes 708 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:15.480 when they had like a rivalry around the million dollar Championship. Did you haven't 709 00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:21.840 to see the opportunity to see this bribery? So you got to see it 710 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:27.280 because this is the time that you understand how much good La Night is and 711 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.519 how much great it can be when you have like a story and a good 712 00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.320 opponent against him. And this is how you build like a good story around 713 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:44.320 l A Night. So I advise you to see also the thing between n 714 00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:47.559 A Night and Cameron Grimes. I just wanted to say, like one more 715 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:54.679 thing about a W. And I know I don't know what you're thinking about 716 00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:01.800 it. I don't see a W at all, but I most of the 717 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:07.719 time just your podcast about it. But for me, I feel that, 718 00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:14.960 aw, it's like Tony Kahn got a lot of money in both like wrestlers 719 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:19.119 from all over the places, like the wrestlers he likes, and that's it. 720 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:24.760 They don't have like a lot of contact in those programs. They do 721 00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:30.800 things like in a weird way. I just sent you like the think about 722 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:37.280 the anti semitic part with MGF like a few weeks ago, Like they're doing 723 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:44.599 things so weird and people like it and people like it and people do like 724 00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:51.400 this a W thing. But I gotta say that I don't connect to a 725 00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:58.280 W so much, and I know that you do as well. Dot connected 726 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:01.599 so much, and yeah, who knows that if they will have like a 727 01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:07.920 better future in the future, but it's so much of a weird show right 728 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:13.840 now. And like there were times that a photo myself, maybe I would 729 01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.800 switch to AW and we'll see like a little bit of WWE when they have 730 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:24.000 like bad things to WWRE. But I I don't have like any reason to 731 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:30.360 connect AW. I can't do it, and I will still stay a part 732 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:35.840 of w W as the future will go on. Yes, well I haven't. 733 01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:37.880 Yeah, I haven't checked that out yet. As far as the anti 734 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.079 semitic part of MJF, I'm gonna have to google that. I feel like 735 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.599 I thought I saw it. Maybe I didn't now have to google that was 736 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:49.719 it? Was it a promo that he did or something they did, like 737 01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:53.719 a story that one wrestler is like holding the coins and say Freedman like the 738 01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:00.800 MGF like real family name and say Freedman and molding the coins than like anti 739 01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.719 cemitting reference And it was really really weird, and it just shows you, 740 01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:10.360 like that they don't understand what they are doing so much. That's saying like 741 01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:15.360 do everything you want, I'm paying give like a lot of money, and 742 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:19.679 like there is not like a real understanding what they are doing. So well, 743 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.840 here you have a billionaire who's running the company that's a wrestling fan himself. 744 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.880 That allows a lot of freedom among their wrestlers. And there's something to 745 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.880 be said for that, because if if I'm a wrestler, I'm looking at 746 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:35.559 this saying all right, well that I'm not going to be just completely suffocated 747 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.880 by management and you know, every little thing I do needs to be approved, 748 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.039 and they're allowing more creative freedom. That's appealing if you're a wrestler. 749 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.000 You want we want freedom. You want to be able to just do what 750 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:49.639 you want and not be suffocated. But at the same time, you're allowing 751 01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.800 the inmates to run the asylum like you. You are allowing kind of groups 752 01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:59.599 to form, like with WCW and the whole political power game with Hulk Hogan 753 01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.079 and Kevin Nash and Scott Hall that they ran literally backstage, not just on 754 01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:07.559 camera. You start to have that issue come about again, like you're you're 755 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:13.519 fermenting an environment that will probably duplicate what happened in WCW, because there does 756 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.880 seem need to be an element of control. Now I'm sure they do have 757 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.280 management there, but they see they seem very loosey goosey. They don't seem 758 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:24.079 to be very you know, micromanagement, micromanagers, and that's that's okay. 759 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.840 I don't like being micromanaged, but you need to have a balance, and 760 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.920 I feel like it's out of balance right now. And it sometimes feels like 761 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:35.559 their show is doesn't have a direction like they and I've seen a few of 762 01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.000 their shows over the last couple of months, but I don't I don't talk 763 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:42.519 about it that much because we have an AEW reviewer here and I feel like 764 01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.800 I haven't seen it enough to speak intelligently on it. But it does feel 765 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:50.159 like they are a different product. That's good, you don't want to feel 766 01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.440 like WWE. But also they feel a little bit like out of whack. 767 01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.079 They don't feel like they just kind of feel like they're doing things to do 768 01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:00.559 things sometimes, and yeah, it can always be improved. I wish them 769 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:02.920 nothing but the best. I want another place for guys to be able to 770 01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:06.599 work, women to be able to work. That's great, that's good for 771 01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:07.880 them, and it's also good if you want to just like say, hey, 772 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.639 maybe something crazy will happen on AEW and we'll you know, you go 773 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:15.159 check that out. But it also concerns me if if I'm an AEW fan. 774 01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.440 I'm looking at the people that they're hiring, like Rick Flair, who 775 01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.920 might have another match, and that Rick Flair, who's seventy some years old, 776 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:27.039 may have another match in AEW. Chris Jericho, who is well past 777 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:30.159 his prime. They just hired Big Show, Okay, Like, is this 778 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.360 apparently their next generation of wrestlers or all these guys? I mean like they 779 01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.440 at times it feels like they're just bringing in the old timers. And I 780 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.400 know they're they grab ratings and people watch, but at the same time, 781 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.519 you know, you want to build the next generation of talents. And I 782 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.760 really just say hope. And here's the last thing I'll say. I don't 783 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:54.199 know how you feel. I still want MJF INWWE come January of this year, 784 01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:58.960 this coming year. So he hasn't signed a contract yet with AEW from 785 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.320 what I understand, and he's gonna become a free agent, and when he 786 01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.559 does, I I really want to see a m j F n w W 787 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:12.239 A. Don't you think that he should be the one that win? Bringing 788 01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:16.280 on? Yes? Yeah, yes, so much of a better thing that 789 01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:24.679 Cody. We're going to have so much of a Cody if you if you're 790 01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:27.199 the sack of Cody, now, just wait till he's champion every day, 791 01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:30.800 every every Monday, ne raw or SmackDown, wherever he's at at that point, 792 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.880 and he's coming out smiling every single h every single week, and it's 793 01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:38.639 gonna be there's gonna be a lot more Cody than less Cody as we go 794 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:42.199 forward. So those of us that are that don't like this babyface character or 795 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.440 we're gonna get more than we ever wanted for for Cody Roads unless he turns. 796 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.239 He I mean, I do want at some point a Cody Roads heel 797 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:53.000 turn, but that's nowhere near you know what they're talking about. I'm sure 798 01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:57.320 right now you will miss Roman Range. Oh yeah, when you will have 799 01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.039 I mean, that's the thing is when people people say they want something, 800 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:01.760 they get it and they're like, oh, well, I don't know if 801 01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:05.119 I want that. No, like, I will miss Roman Reigns from just 802 01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:10.719 the actual just the character perspective and the bloodline and all that, that was 803 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:14.039 one of the best storylines they've ever produced over the last three years. It's 804 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.079 run its course now, but during the time a year and a half ago 805 01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:20.360 when it was hot as hell, that was the best, and he has 806 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:26.480 improved immensely by turning heel and aligning himself with Hayman, and since that time, 807 01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:29.159 he's turned his career around. He's a Hall of Famer, So i'll 808 01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:31.800 miss him. From that perspective, I won't miss the championship not being visible. 809 01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:35.519 I won't miss the championship not being there six months out of the year, 810 01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:41.039 So that's what I won't miss. But all right, well, Charon, 811 01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:43.840 do you have any last comments or anything you want to say before we 812 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:49.000 wrap it up? And first of all, thank you so much met for 813 01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:54.000 eving in me in your podcast. I got to say that I listened to 814 01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:59.119 your postcards for something like three or four years. I became so much of 815 01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:04.880 a great fan of your work. You're also like an inspiration for me because 816 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:11.239 I think also about doing podcasts by myself as well. On like talking about 817 01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.960 I really like a cinema man. I learned cinema and I teach cinema, 818 01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:20.360 so I feel like to do a podcast or cinema as well. So I 819 01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:25.639 take a lot of like inspiration from you and from your work. So it 820 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:32.400 was really really good to be part of your show. And please keep doing 821 01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:39.440 contact so much because this is like the thing that makes me have askepism from 822 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.760 the situation right now. And it's really really good that I have like an 823 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:53.400 opportunity to hear your podcast. And also I would say one more time, 824 01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.199 it's really brave that what you said and that you gave me an opportunit need 825 01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:03.480 to speak about the situation in Israel, because you hear so much of the 826 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:10.800 bad things that people say, and it's not a good times in the world 827 01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:15.960 to say that you are and easily and even like a Jew, that people 828 01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:24.519 thinks all kinds of weird thinks about you. And just remember that no matter 829 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.320 what you're in the news, try to understand what is the real thing, 830 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:33.880 try to understand what really happens, and try to understand that right now we 831 01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:41.079 have a country that is in a bad thing and were looking forward that the 832 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:47.039 war will end and our people will come back to our places in good terms, 833 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:55.920 and I'm looking forward for better times in Israel, and I will just 834 01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:02.880 still listen and watch wrestling as my escapism and my good place in those days. 835 01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.159 And thank you again, well, thank you Sharon, and you know 836 01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:09.599 this has been a lot of fun. It's crazy that we're I go like 837 01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:13.599 five thousand miles away here having this conversation and you're in the middle of a 838 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:15.720 well not you specifically, but you're much closer to a war zone than I 839 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.920 am. And you know, the things that's going on there, as we 840 01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:23.159 talked about the beginning of the show, is really just something I can't wrap 841 01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:25.359 my mind around. The things that have happened. There are the worst things 842 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:29.359 I've ever seen in my life. And you know, obviously, I'm sure 843 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.319 everyone listening would wish you and your family safe, you know, a safe 844 01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:36.600 and you know, a happy future as we move forward, and we all 845 01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:41.079 hope it ends soon. But yeah, we're actually trying to there's talks here 846 01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:43.439 of like World War three and all that kind of stuff, So we're trying 847 01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:46.159 it in the United States, trying to avoid getting involved, and and I 848 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:49.239 hope we do because I you know, obviously, we don't want to expand 849 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:53.960 this. We want to just kind of end it quickly. So hopefully that 850 01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:58.279 is what happens, and to continue to watch wrestling. I appreciate the comments 851 01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.079 and the compliments. It's you know, it's it's weird that you know, 852 01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.439 when I speak, I say this all the time. I don't know who's 853 01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.720 listening. I don't know who is out there listening to my voice. You 854 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:10.439 never have any clue, and it's you know, you're thousands of miles away. 855 01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:12.880 And now, you know, maybe you start your own show, and 856 01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:15.199 I hope you do. And if you do, let me know. We 857 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:16.279 can, you know, give you a little promotion on the show here. 858 01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:20.880 But yeah, so very good, and we'll stay in touch. Continue to 859 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:25.399 use wrestling as your escape, as you said, continue to just just you 860 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.800 know, you need that for your mental health. So thank you so much 861 01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.880 for own Thank you, Matt, thank you, follow the listeners, and 862 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:42.720 goodbye bye. Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to subscribe 863 01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:46.239 on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head to 864 01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:51.720 WWE podcast dot com and for all of these shows add free head over to 865 01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:59.920 Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, we'll see you next time.