WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.160
Hey, everybody, this is Less
Striding. Yes, yes, I know

2
00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:30.000
aka Surviving Man and you're listening to
Brian on Sasquatch Odyssey. Hey guys,

3
00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:33.960
and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey.
Thank you so much for clicking play.

4
00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.679
It is Sunday. I hope you
guys are having a great weekend. You

5
00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.119
have an amazing guest line though for
you. But before we get there,

6
00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.679
I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd

7
00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.200
like to be on the show,
shoot me an email and give me a

8
00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:49.240
Brian at Paranormal World Productions dot com
can head over to the website, check

9
00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:54.000
it out, became remember there and
help support the show. Our guest today

10
00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:57.880
is a returning guest from last spring. It's Joey from Georgia, and she

11
00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:02.119
came on last year and told us
all about her experiences there in and around

12
00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:06.000
her home there in Georgia, and
she's continued to have experiences, so she's

13
00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:08.120
back to update us and tell us
more about what's been going on around there.

14
00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:11.040
It's a really great conversation. I
think you guys were really going to

15
00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:14.319
enjoy it. But enough of that. I know you guys are here for

16
00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:15.959
the stories. Joy's on the line. She's ready to go, So I'm

17
00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:19.359
gonna stop talking. You gotta sit
back, relax and enjoy the show.

18
00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.439
Everyk's on a welcome our guests back
to the show. It is Joey from

19
00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.359
Georgia. Welcome back to the show. Joey, thanks could be here.

20
00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:49.680
I am glad to have you.
So you were on the show. Guys,

21
00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.120
she's been a little over a year
ago and you had some things going

22
00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.640
on your property. Then could you
take us back there and remind us some

23
00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.439
of the things that you were experiencing
back then and then walk us into what's

24
00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:05.239
been happening on the property recently.
Yeah, back in January of last year

25
00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.719
when I've noticed it all, starting
when the red eyes came out of the

26
00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:14.919
woods at me. That was just
a surreal experience. I've seen that,

27
00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:17.159
and the one and the one standing
in the pasture that looked like a tree

28
00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:23.639
without limbs. And just from that
experience and going back over all the stories

29
00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.840
that I've listened to on the different
Saft Squat podcasts, I realized a lot

30
00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:32.439
of things from my past that we're
probably bigfoot. I don't know it.

31
00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.759
I still it's hard to believe,
even though I've experienced it and it still

32
00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.800
sounds hocky. But some of the
things that have happened since, and even

33
00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:46.400
some things I don't even think I
mentioned then which I had previously had seen

34
00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:50.879
on another one of the back road
at one point years ago, a deer

35
00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.319
that had been the gut pile laying
next to it, and the deer's just

36
00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:58.360
laying there, the head was still
on it, everything was there. If

37
00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:00.560
some hunter had just dumped it on
the back road, do you think you

38
00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.960
would have taken the antlers or something, But yep, it was just the

39
00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.159
deer there of first scream outside of
my window back in two thousand and seven.

40
00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.400
But anyway, there's that rabbit hole. You can't quit thinking about it.

41
00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.560
Once you've seen it, you can't
quit thinking about it. And every

42
00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.360
time you go down the road you're
constantly looking for something. But since then,

43
00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.960
I've seen the one that came out
of the woods with the red eyes

44
00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:23.639
standing. This was about the same
time, right shortly after the interview,

45
00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:28.520
standing in the woods. It's red
eyes. It was higher and it was

46
00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:34.280
like five kind of greenish yellow eyes
sets of five eyes lower like there were

47
00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.120
crouched or something. It was pitch
black. All you could see with that

48
00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:42.560
were the eyes and of course back
to the telepathic mind speak if it's real,

49
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.159
and back and forth when it looked
in my eyes, who were you?

50
00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.719
And back between the two of us. I think it was trying to

51
00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.560
show me who it was with all
the different things that was going on,

52
00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:57.439
you know, with the hooks and
woods. And then later that summer,

53
00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.960
it's like it's they're curious, and
I try to get the curiosity up,

54
00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.879
and I would just go outside and
make crazy noises out here in the woods.

55
00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.159
Nobody's king I notice anyway, But
yeah, and then I had something

56
00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:12.520
the best I could figure or find
on the internet that sounded like it was

57
00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.120
like a purple finch. But these, of course were bigger, larger sounds,

58
00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:19.360
and I heard two of those around
the house and that was strange.

59
00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.839
And then also there was, you
know, after our interview, there was

60
00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.720
a deer, which you know,
I'm sure everybody's seen road kill, but

61
00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.720
this thing was on the side of
an embankment on I don't know if it

62
00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:36.600
was a root or a stick or
something sticking out of this bare embankment with

63
00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:41.879
its neck broke backwards over it and
this is on my route to work.

64
00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.720
You know that I go every night
and every morning. Back this was in

65
00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:47.199
one of the mornings, and I
kept thinking, maybe it's trying to gift

66
00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.560
to me or something. And as
I say this, I still think it.

67
00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.480
So it's weird. We don't know
these things. There was that.

68
00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.759
And two I think I sent you
the picture, which is like the most

69
00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.639
bizarre thing. And it goes back
to where I don't even remember if I

70
00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.639
mentioned that about my husband several years
ago was missing three jack stands. One

71
00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:09.680
was left, and I've heard stories
about these things taking their share and leaving

72
00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:15.160
something for whoever left it. But
we have one orange jacks to hang around

73
00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.920
here. Somebody says, well,
what would somebody want with three jack stands.

74
00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.199
It's like, I don't know.
I don't know if it was big

75
00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.600
fit or if somebody just you know, just willy nilly decided to take three

76
00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:30.519
jack stands. There's that. But
then the wheel weights, which of course

77
00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:31.720
we all waits. When you know, you get your tire's balance. Usually

78
00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.560
the wheel weights go on the inside
of the wheel. For whatever reason my

79
00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:39.600
mechanics, they don't or they didn't
put the wheel weights on the inside they

80
00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.920
were putting them on the outside.
One Saturday, my husband was out cutting

81
00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.319
grass and there are wheel weights all
in the yard, just thrown about the

82
00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:53.519
yard, and we waits for missing
off my truck tires. And I got

83
00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:58.720
to looking and there were finger prints
on right next to my gas tank towards

84
00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.480
the back, and then there wider
the like finger tips, and they're wider

85
00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:05.720
than my son's hand, which he's
got the biggest hand around here, wider

86
00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:12.439
than that, and I don't and
you had interviewed, but he's relatively close.

87
00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.519
Here is fifteen miles from Harris the
crow flies, and he had this

88
00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.079
happened to his truck. After this
is like long after this had happened to

89
00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:23.920
me, Like they come looking for
you. It's I worked Monday through Friday

90
00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.319
and it's on the weekend. It's
like they were looking for me. Here's

91
00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.800
anything I could imagine. It's creepy, is what it is that think that

92
00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:36.519
somebody's or something is doing this And
I'm trying two. There was an instant

93
00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:41.240
one instance, one evening on my
way to work, I saw the butt

94
00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.920
end of something. It was low
to the ground, and of course actually

95
00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:49.839
see deer or some sort of that
type of animal. It had the dark

96
00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:56.279
around the top part of the butt
and then it was light colored. It

97
00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.639
had short legs, shorter than the
deer, and it had something next to

98
00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:02.560
it, So I it was just
something weird I saw. I don't know

99
00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.839
if it's related to side squatch.
If it was a little one and a

100
00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.959
bigger one, I don't know about
that. But the biggest thing that scared

101
00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:15.560
me actually made me cry, because
you see, I hadn't seen the faces

102
00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.959
on these things. Things. Last
October, of course, my son's in

103
00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:24.240
band and he had a football game, and I had gone down long after

104
00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.800
midnight pick him up from school,
and on the way down the mountain,

105
00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.199
one crossed the road. It was
shorter than the other because the other one

106
00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.920
that I had seen in the pasture
was about, you know, almost eight

107
00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.680
feet taller there about, but this
one was smaller. It was a black,

108
00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:43.839
pitch black the color of the night. I mean, if you didn't

109
00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.560
see the movement, you would have
never known it was there. But the

110
00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:51.519
thing, the way it was positioned
was like a gorilla with its knuckle,

111
00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:55.480
one of its knuckles down and it
was gonna like it was setting up to

112
00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:57.680
the embank. But it was right
on the edge of the road and it

113
00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:03.079
turned and looked at me. Eyes
I don't know how many people remember Land

114
00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.560
of the Laws from the nineteen seventies, you the Saturday dB show. The

115
00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:13.240
eyes were just like flee stack,
big black voids, no glowing, none

116
00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.199
of that. And when it looked
at me, because these things aren't supposed

117
00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.639
to exist, and I actually saw
its face, I can't say that I

118
00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.519
saw like details because it was probably
twenty yards from me. I couldn't.

119
00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.039
I just couldn't believe what was It
was so surreal. I cried all the

120
00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.200
way to the school to pick up
my son, and that was the last

121
00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.519
time I had seen anything or as
it goes, But I got to,

122
00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.440
of course, the rabbit hole where
you get to thinking about these things and

123
00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:50.799
how things how do they quote unquote
disappear or I had mentioned on the last

124
00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.159
interview about the other one that I
had seen crossing the road that looked a

125
00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.200
puff of smoke or a ghost or
whatever, and listen to I think it

126
00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.639
was what was it Henry Franzoni or
something, and some of his stuff was

127
00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:07.759
a little further out there. But
my thing is if they can vibrate,

128
00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.960
and of course you know, the
orbs, the ball lightning and all this

129
00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.639
sort of stuff. And if they
are that fast and the orbs are seen

130
00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.600
around them, and if they can't
actually pass through things, and of course

131
00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.600
you know physics and science of it
all. If they can move like super

132
00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.480
duper fast to the point where maybe
they can pass three things, this is

133
00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.159
totally out there whatever. But like
I said, it's throb it all.

134
00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.799
You go down after you're seeing these
things and listen to other people's account and

135
00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.120
of course if they have this hair, and of course when we have hair

136
00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:45.480
is dry, static electricity create sparks. Who's to say these things don't create

137
00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.360
some sort of spark ball lightning type
thing to wear. These orbs show up

138
00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.000
and I of course people ask on
these shows have you seen the orbs?

139
00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:00.840
I didn't pay anything because you write
so many things, all Facebook memories,

140
00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.240
which of course Facebook is almost like
a journal for me sometimes, especially a

141
00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.840
really weird stuff I had seen back
in twenty twenty, some weird orange light

142
00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.000
in the woods. That write it
off, Okay, there's weird stuff in

143
00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:15.360
the woods. But I'm thinking,
well, maybe you know, that could

144
00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.360
have been something to do with them. It wasn't the color. I mean,

145
00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:24.000
my Facebook post was like a memory
was it was an orange light and

146
00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.159
it was not a fire or anything
like that. I don't know. And

147
00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:30.720
then there's the other thing that I
was looking into hybrids, which of course

148
00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:35.960
there's the big debate of whether they're
human eight gorilla things. And I was

149
00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:43.240
reading about the hybrids of like leopards
and tigers and lions, and then of

150
00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:48.919
course zebras, donkeys and Orson's hybrids, and about how some of them will

151
00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.120
be bigger and the parents, and
some of them will be shorter, smaller,

152
00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.600
and of course you go into these
little fuck willgs, and then you

153
00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.120
go into the Sasquatch. Centuries four
Europeans ever set foot in the New World,

154
00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.679
the legends of puckwagees were already deeply
ingrained in the culture. Puckwagees,

155
00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:11.000
also known as Bagwiganee, were believed
to inhabit the wilderness across North America.

156
00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:16.279
Native Americans held the belief that these
creatures once coexisted harmoniously with humans, but

157
00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.399
eventually turned against them. The folklore
surrounding puckwygees spanned various tribes, from the

158
00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.559
Wampa no Ag tribe of Massachusetts in
southern New England to the Algonquian tribe of

159
00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:28.360
the Great Lakes region. According to
the legends, it was best to avoid

160
00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:33.279
any encounters with these creatures. The
term puckwygee translates to person of the wilderness.

161
00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.240
Descriptions depicted them as small beings,
ranging from the height to about three

162
00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.679
feet tall, with humanlike features but
exaggerated ears, noses, and fingers.

163
00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:46.679
Their skin was said to be smooth
and gray, often drawing comparisons to trolls

164
00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.679
and goblins. These mischievous creatures possessed
a range of tricks to taunt or harm

165
00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.639
humans. The level of threat posed
by puckwagees varied from region to region.

166
00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.399
In some areas, they were considered
benign and even helpful to humans. In

167
00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.639
others, they were mischievous armless.
However, in certain regions they were known

168
00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:07.159
to be murderous. The wampano Agg
tribe had a particularly detailed origin story for

169
00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.600
the puckwagees. Legend had it that
these creatures initially had a good relationship with

170
00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.399
humans. However, humans became preoccupied
with their connection to Moshap, a benevolent

171
00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.480
giant deity who shaped Cape cod Feeling
jealous and unloved, the puckwagees began causing

172
00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.840
more mischief. After the wampano Agg
sought guidance from Moshop's wife, the giant

173
00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:30.440
banished the puckwagees, scattering them across
North America. Despite their exile, many

174
00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.919
puckwagees found their way back and developed
a hostile relationship with humans and Moshop.

175
00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.759
They eventually killed Moshop's five sons,
and some variations of the legend even suggest

176
00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.639
that they were responsible from mass Shop's
own demise, leading to his disappearance.

177
00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.759
From whampaneo Ag folklore. Similar to
Leprekans and Irish folklore, puckwagees were known

178
00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.960
for their capricious nature. The extent
of their powers varied depending on the tribe's

179
00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.840
beliefs. Annoying a puckwagee could result
in unpleasant tricks, but it could also

180
00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.600
lead to being pushed off a cliff, shot with fiery arrows, having one's

181
00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.080
children stolen. Huckwoogies were said to
possess the ability to create fire or orbs

182
00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.440
that lured unsuspecting individuals into the treacherous
depths of the woods. They were also

183
00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.000
believed to be invisible. It is
said that in some regions they were capable

184
00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.360
of transforming into dangerous animals like cougars. Perhaps most chilling of all was the

185
00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:20.679
rumor that they held power over the
spirits of those they had killed. One

186
00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.360
of the earliest mentions of puckwagies in
literature can be found in Henry Wadsworth Longfelo's

187
00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:30.879
poem The Song of Highwada Lonfolo drew
inspiration from Henry Rose Schoolcraft, who based

188
00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.960
his works on a Gibwi folklore shared
by his part Native American wife Jane,

189
00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:39.799
and the poem Lawnfelo refers to the
mischievous puckwadgis who killed the giant Quassan by

190
00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.480
pelting him with pine cones. Even
today, puckwagis continue to be associated with

191
00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:50.039
specific locations. Many reported sidings originate
from the woods of Massachusetts. In fact,

192
00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.399
the police and Freetown have erected a
Puckwagee crossing signed near the Freetown State

193
00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.519
Forest. Freetown, located in Fall
River, and Lakeville, already carries a

194
00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.879
reputation for violent rooms due to its
connection to Lizzie Borden, who was suspected

195
00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:07.159
of axing her father and stepmother to
death in the eighteen nineties. The presence

196
00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.279
of Puckwagees adds an even darker element
to the town's history. Within the Freetown

197
00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.279
State Forest, there is a cliff
that is over one hundred feet tall,

198
00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:18.159
known as the Ledge, which overlooks
a quarry. Several suicides have occurred at

199
00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:20.320
the Ledge, with the victims not
known to be mentally ill. Some blame

200
00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.679
these deaths on the puckwagees, claiming
that they lure people to their demise.

201
00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.720
While Massachusetts police may view puckwogees as
a joke or prank, those who have

202
00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:33.480
reported sightings are far from amused.
One woman in Massachusetts claimed to have seen

203
00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.960
a puckwegee in the forest, which
continued to bother her by tapping on her

204
00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.039
window at night while she slept.
These mischievous creatures are also rumored to live

205
00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.919
near West Virginia's haunted Moundsville State Penitentiary
and in Round Rock, Texas, home

206
00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.720
to big Foot. Whether contemporary sightings
of puckwagees indicate supernatural activity remains uncertain,

207
00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:56.080
but their status is one of the
oldest mythical creatures in North America is undisputed.

208
00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.720
Yeah, it's almost like a cross
between a fairy tale and blankly out

209
00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:03.519
there crazy stuff, But what's a
solidest thing and it is real. It's

210
00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.639
like you have to open up your
mind and say, what the heck is

211
00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.399
out there that we don't know about? Is I'm sure there's you know,

212
00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:18.440
because people discovering new species every day. It's exhausting going down let's rabbit hole.

213
00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.759
Actually wow, But yeah, that's
all I can think of right now

214
00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.559
that that's how really happened. Since
then, Yeah, there's definitely tons of

215
00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.679
things to go down the rabbit hole
on. And you mentioned Henry Franzoni.

216
00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.720
I had him on a couple of
weeks back. He had some really out

217
00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.360
there experiences and plenty that he didn't
tell me about. He wouldn't tell me

218
00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.279
about because he frankly said, they're
just so weird that I don't talk about

219
00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.559
them because the things that I do
tell people is weird enough, and they

220
00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:48.159
think that I'm completely batshit crazy.
So I don't go down that rabbit hole

221
00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.080
until all of the crazy things that
have happened. But he's got some really

222
00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.960
out there theories on the different types
of what things could be going on with

223
00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.960
these things, Like you said,
they could be interdimensional beings, there could

224
00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:03.360
be some things that we are not
really taking a look at in the quantum

225
00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:08.840
physic world of what's possibly going on
in Sasquatch. You mentioned it earlier about

226
00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.080
mind speaking. I don't know if
it was something that we talked about when

227
00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.440
you're on before or you've had some
incidences since. But I've read a couple

228
00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.759
of books since you've been on,
and one of them was Matt Pruitt's book

229
00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:25.679
The Phenomenal Sasquatch, And amongst many
things that he addresses in the book is

230
00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:30.720
some of the things that happened during
encounters with people that tend to get put

231
00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.120
in that high strangeness or that woo
sort of category when it happens, when

232
00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:40.639
in fact, it could be a
very real physical response to the stress or

233
00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.440
just the situation in and of itself. Let me ask you, since you

234
00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:48.240
mentioned the mind speak thing, is
that something that you think you've experienced or

235
00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.600
in your bruising through the internet or
looking into this. Is it something that

236
00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.639
you've looked into and believe that happens
to people, or do you think it's

237
00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.840
more of a physiological sort of response
to it happens when people encounter these things.

238
00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.160
I don't think it's necessary a physiological
thing. I know my mom and

239
00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.559
my grandmother when she was alive,
especially me and my grandmother A lot of

240
00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.039
times, know when she's thinking about
me, oh color she said, Oh,

241
00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.160
I was just thinking about the kind
of thing. And I believe some

242
00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:22.319
people are more susceptible to things than
others, because not everyone encountered the mind

243
00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:26.480
speak kind of thing, like when
this thing looked at me through the window

244
00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:32.720
and I don't know if it was
its pupil size or if it was you

245
00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.640
know, I don't know if it
was, you know, because like I

246
00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.079
said, all I could see was
the eyes. They were just bright red,

247
00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:44.640
looking dead in my eyes. And
I wasn't scared. It's it's like

248
00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.400
I looked at it looked at me, and it's who are you? Just

249
00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:49.680
came to my mind from it and
then I just, you know, first

250
00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:53.599
thing is like who are you?
You know, because it was a weird

251
00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.119
response, because I mean, if
this thing is some sort of I don't

252
00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.000
know, I don't even know what
it is. I mean i'd say it's

253
00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:04.240
an ape because I know it's not
a demon. It's not you know,

254
00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.640
I don't think it's interdimensional. I
think it does have some sort of capabilities

255
00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:15.480
beyond what we know that certain things
can do because with vibrational frequencies, they

256
00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.680
have been able to levitate a being
pong ball scientist. One of the things

257
00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:25.960
I had read and if some things
vibrate versus goesion to the crazy flash theories

258
00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:32.319
kind of thing. But of course
some things can pass through material objects hypothetically.

259
00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:34.839
But yeah, but I think there
was actually some sort of connection there

260
00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.200
because when you look at your animal, you can you can look at your

261
00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:41.440
dog and it it's a dumb dog, he can tell he wants you to

262
00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.279
pet it. But yeah, but
this thing is not. It didn't seem

263
00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:47.960
quite as dumb as like a dog
or something or your cat. It seemed

264
00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.640
a little more complex than that.
There's just I don't know, but yeah,

265
00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.960
I believe in telepathy mine speak sort
of thing, But I don't know

266
00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.160
if it's actually something that if it's
just particular person, or if it's just

267
00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.400
these things because if people hear voices
all the time, I like to think

268
00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.640
that I'm of sound mind and body, But like you're talking about Henry Friendzoni,

269
00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.519
there's just creepy, weird things that
you just don't discuss with people.

270
00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:12.440
But yeah, I think the mind
speak is probably real, but I just

271
00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:17.160
think some people are more susceptible to
it than others. Stay tuned for more

272
00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:23.160
Sasquatch out to see. Will be
right back after these messages. You definitely

273
00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.880
may be right. You mentioned the
fingerprints on the truck. I want to

274
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.279
talk a little bit about those.
You mentioned how large they were, and

275
00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.480
that's something that's been fascinating to me
throughout the years is on occasion people have

276
00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:37.640
found what looked like fingerprints. I
posted a picture a couple of years back

277
00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.079
on social media that a guy sent
me, and it looked like this huge

278
00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.599
sort of guerrilla type handprint with this
sort of white, chalky substance or milky

279
00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:49.519
substance. Almost Hichick has talked about
it plenty of times about the seeb them

280
00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:55.440
that these things secrete as human beings. We do as well, but particularly

281
00:19:55.440 --> 00:20:00.880
in the Apes Greater Apes specifically,
they produced this really thick, milky,

282
00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:04.640
sort of oily substance called see them. I was wondering if when you saw

283
00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:10.359
the fingerprints, was it just dirty, sort of dusty fingerprints or did you

284
00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:15.319
see that white chalky looking substance when
you found these on your truck? It

285
00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.759
was more like goes back to the
wheelweights business. It was more like something

286
00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.000
had it and it was more.
I don't know, maybe it's in the

287
00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:26.519
email. I'm pretty sure I sent
you a picture. If not, i'll

288
00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.200
send it to you later. But
it was just black and it was I

289
00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:34.279
wouldn't say it was greasy, and
it wasn't powdery. It wasn't. It

290
00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.839
was just like it wasn't exactly like
a mechanic would have put their hands on

291
00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.920
there. It wasn't that type.
It was a little more I wouldn't say

292
00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:49.079
powdery, but it wasn't completely greasy
either. Gotcha? Have you found any

293
00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:53.079
other types of stuff? I just
posted about it recently here on the property,

294
00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:56.079
I found what looks like a footprint
that I made a cast of here

295
00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.720
a couple of weeks back. Of
course, I'm getting a lot of guff

296
00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.039
on social media because there's only one
print in the area, and it's that

297
00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.720
typical thing that people talk about.
I've even joked about it on the show

298
00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.480
before. It is bigfoot on some
sort of a pogo stick going through the

299
00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.759
woods. And I'm certainly not saying
that what I found is a bigfoot print.

300
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.000
It looks like some sort of an
animal print could be a double step

301
00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.000
bear print. People have said it
looks like a really large cat's foot.

302
00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.359
I don't know, but I got
a really good cast of it. So

303
00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:27.440
have you guys found any other evidence
around the house or have you looked to

304
00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.359
see if there's any footprints or anything
in the area. And second part of

305
00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.839
that question is, I know your
husband and your son are around just as

306
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:38.119
much as you are. They haven't
experiences as well. Have they seen or

307
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:42.319
heard anything? And what do they
think about your experiences that you're having my

308
00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:47.559
son and my daughter there here?
They think I'm, like you said,

309
00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:52.079
betshit crazy. My husband didn't laugh
at me, but several years ago he

310
00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.480
had seen something in the wood like
the glowing red eyes. He didn't say

311
00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.599
there were eyes. He said he
actually stopped the truck at the end of

312
00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:03.440
the dry way, wait she's at
night, got out and actually it made

313
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.000
him so curious that he got his
fleshlight got looking for it, and he

314
00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.000
said he couldn't find it. And
he said he just wrote it off as

315
00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:14.440
it was probably some reflective something or
something in the woods, and just wrote

316
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:15.920
it off. But he didn't laugh
at me. I don't know if he

317
00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.559
has an open mind or but my
daughters heard things, you know, back

318
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.319
last spring after I did the interview
with you, she had heard something.

319
00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.359
But we go through all the animal
noises on the internet, and the closest

320
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.880
she found she sounded like a box, only it was longer far as the

321
00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:40.759
sound of it. That and the
owls and purple finches. And sometimes I

322
00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.039
when I get home, I'll look
around and we have a piece of old

323
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.559
fence that we were gonna burn,
and it's still just sitting back there from

324
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.519
the back of the next at the
edge of the woods. And sometimes I

325
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.559
think I see I think I'm crazy. Sometimes I think I see something moved

326
00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:00.920
behind it. I don't know.
Periodically, yeah, sometimes I'll see broken

327
00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:07.200
trees that are perfectly healthy, and
I'll think, well, you know,

328
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.039
it's a big foot or was it
the storm that came through. And I'll

329
00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.480
look at the tree and some of
them you can see where like it's dead

330
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.680
on the inside, and it's okay, that's why it's broken. But I

331
00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.720
have on my route back up the
mountain or my way home from work,

332
00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.400
I have seemed perfectly good trees,
nothing wrong with them, just broke off,

333
00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.480
you know, the top of it. About I'd say probably about five

334
00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:32.680
feet up, probably twice as big
around as your arm just broke off laying

335
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:36.480
over. Like I said, it's
like I just try to pretend that it's

336
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:41.559
just normal, and I don't see
arched trees. I think, well,

337
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.119
it's just the wind, and I
just keep saying, Okay, it's not

338
00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:48.039
these things. But in talking to
my neighbor that you had interviewed, he

339
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:52.279
says that they're more active. Of
course, like I know, during hunting

340
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:56.039
seasons. Pretty much the way I
see it, they're more active in the

341
00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:00.079
fall in early spring, but he
says they are still coming around his property

342
00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.839
being the on the summertime, they're
just not as active. And I think

343
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.480
more of the juveniles are the ones
that get out versus is completely hypothetical.

344
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.400
I don't know my I don't know
these things. I think it's more the

345
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.039
juveniles that get out and that we
see more than the older ones. And

346
00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:19.720
because there's so many caves around here
and lakes and creeks and cool spots,

347
00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:26.240
it's some animals hibernate during the wintertime. Maybe these things go underground and underground

348
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.519
during the summertime, you know,
where it's cooler, especially if these things

349
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:32.480
are huge an area and I mean, we get hot and we don't fool

350
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.799
that fur. Yeah, you mentioned
the hoots and the owl sounds, and

351
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:38.680
I may insert it in here for
you guys to hear, because I don't

352
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:42.279
think I've put it out there yet. But I had Johnny on from North

353
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:48.440
Carolina several weeks back, and Johnny
sent me a clip of what sounds like

354
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.200
a couple of different sounds that he
heard in the beginning of this audio,

355
00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:57.680
and then what you hear is clearly
an owl after this happens, and then

356
00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:03.759
towards the end of this owl does
its thing. I heard what sounds like

357
00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:06.839
something imitating an owl, and that's
the first time I've ever heard that.

358
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:08.559
I hear that a lot people say
they mimic this or they mimic that,

359
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.079
And honestly, I roll my eyes
about it, because how do you really

360
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.079
know if it's mimicking right? I
know it may sound off or whatever,

361
00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:19.839
but sometimes animals sound different. One
animal will sound it'll be one species of

362
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:25.200
animal, and an identical animal can
sound very different. No two dogs really

363
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.200
bark alike, that kind of thing. But in this clip, it clearly

364
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:33.799
sounds like to me, something is
making this noise. This owl it's whatever,

365
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.240
just like a regular owl. And
then after that owl stops, it

366
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.359
sounds just like whatever was making the
noise before. The owl then tries to

367
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.240
mimic the owl. So I'll probably
insert it in here at this point so

368
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.680
people can hear it. But what
do you experience in is it similar to

369
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.319
that when you hear these hoots and
owl calls that makes you go that doesn't

370
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.680
necessarily sound like an owl. It
doesn't have that little role at the end

371
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.640
of it. And two owls or
territorial, You're not gonna have three big

372
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:07.400
owls and close proximity around the house. There's just things that owls don't do

373
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:12.039
that these things are doing, or
are things that owls do that you just

374
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.519
know that these it's not them.
It's bigger than an owl. I don't

375
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.960
know. An owl can sound pretty
big if it's close to your house,

376
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.039
but you're not gonna have three big
owls sitting right around your house. It's

377
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.799
just not going to happen. I'm
sorry. Sometimes it just is what it

378
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.559
is. Joy I really appreciate exactly. I appreciate you coming on and updating

379
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.480
this and as things continue to unfold, We're always here. We love to

380
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.759
have the updates, and we'd love
to hear if you have any more experiences.

381
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.640
All right too, just a little
sun. That paradolia, that's a

382
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:45.599
whole nother thing. I've got a
picture of a shadow. I couldn't get

383
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:51.200
it in my neighbor that does his
own research, he says it's paradolia.

384
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:55.440
But if these things can blend themselves
so well, and if some people say

385
00:26:55.480 --> 00:27:00.079
they're invisible, I don't know.
I don't think they're invisible, but I

386
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.279
don't know how well camouflage they are. But I'll send you that picture.

387
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.400
I don't know. You might have
seen it floating around on Facebook. But

388
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:12.680
yeah, there's just questions that rabbit
hole again. They say you don't gotta

389
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:25.119
go home, but you can't stay. I don't want to be We're all

390
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:55.680
out that trying to try and try
everything. Color by baby my joy for

391
00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:41.440
me to stay right, you call
it right away, says side stout.

392
00:28:41.759 --> 00:29:02.400
Timeout. I'll try for me come
down. Also, James and things,

393
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:14.440
Lassis and things, Ess