It's just like the old radio show with the addiibility to swear a lot from
the mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler, Dods,
Jeep Bram. It's bilified but Bill Moran podcast. Well hello, and
thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks for telling a friend. It's always
spread the word about the pirate ship. A brother listens in Florida loves I
love that your brother listens to Florida really, yep, every day. That's
awesome. That's very awesome. Yeah. I mean, that's the cool thing
with this. You can listen anywhere anywhere you are. He got so sucked
into it our show, am Al Conners. He goes, dude, it's
eight o'clock in the morning. Are you guys still there? I got no,
No, it's a podcast we tape the last day. Oh yeah,
you're right. I'm sorry. Yeah. Well, so when he asked me
today, is there a way that we could build an alarm clock that when
the alarm goes off on the phone it's us Yeah, And I go,
I bet there is. I just don't know it. I don't know.
We gotta try to look into that. There's a bunch to get on that.
There's a ton of shit to look into and stuff. But today is
our hundredth episode one hondo. You guys have been here since day one Day
one. Kevin basically was named the show Oh did you? I did kick
to him? I called him up and I said, uh, somebody else
had give me? Said Billified, and I said great. And then I
asked him and he went Bill Moran podcast. He goes, Billified, the
Bill Moran podcast would work, and I said done. I like that.
I had some ideas too, like the Bill Moran circus or or podcast free
mir Animal that was one, but I think Billified is the perfect name for
it. Someranimal Room. Oh god, I'm had a I don't mean to
sound dramatic, and I really hate people who are dramatically that about. Oh
I do too. No, I'm serious, I really I tried never to
be suck somebody else's drama into your life or be my or be the drama
for somebody else's really dramatic. Dude though, but I uh, god,
damn, I had a weird It was just a weird day. Everything is
great, everything's like really well, but a fucking weird day, you know,
just strange what's the matter? Headphones? No cameras? What about them?
They're not on. I am taping. Thank you, just checking.
That's that's very good. Thank you. Yeah. I was just gonna grab
your phone and trying to do it, but I don't know how to do
that yet. I will show you. Actually, what I'd like to do,
Kevin, now that you bring it up, is get an iPad,
put the app on the iPad and just leave the iPad like where anybody can
reach it. And that would be the thing. I haven't done that yet
because I get Yeah, I gotta tablet that I gotta give you. No,
I'm not, seriously, It's just operates through Wi Fi. So it's
one last thing you gotta worry about. It's Android, though, I'm gonna
warn you. Yeah, no, nothing, it didn't fall off the truck.
Nothing to do with that. I was gonna buy an iPad. Who
say anything about buying it? Billy, I got a guy. Oh so
then Kevin says to me, Um sends me a text, Hey, I
have something to say. I have a question to ask you at the top
for the one hundred, and I said, what did I write? Sure,
no problem, tell me what you give me it because I don't want
to because I have the app on the phone that operates the cameras, so
I kind of can't. So I said something back like sure, sounds good,
sounds good, And then you wrote what I said? And please,
if I phrase it dumb, don't take it as negative because you always a
lot of times take my stuff on his neck? How am I gonna yeah
about? So that already already going in my thinking is not shit? That's
all I can think, like, oh shit, what what am I?
What am I coming into? So? What is the question I wanted?
A question? Or is it? It? Is? I? I tend
I wrote it down? You wrote this down? Is it about some new
we know? No, it's knowing when we sat down in your kitchen a
week before Christmas testing all this equipment. Yes, knowing that it would be
successful, with all the people that have helped Angie, Foodie, Danny,
people we've met. Why am I Tephany, Doug Phillips reconnecting through old mystery
guests with friends like Mark? Did you ever envision the show being this successful
this quickly? Um, it's a great question. I never think about those
things at all, And the reason I don't is because well, let me
rephrase it, and that's that's not a truthful answer. Um, I am
not at the success that I want. How's that you're not? I do
know that, I you know, you know, not satisfied. No,
that's important. I look at I look at things. I can see a
lot of the analytics of things, and I watch it and it is better
and better and better. But I sweat it. I have, Um.
I mean just the fact that we started in your kitchen, yes, and
we've gotten I just wanted to with you know, all the sponsors bTB,
Karmit, Victor Karrent, Chrysler Market Comedy, all those Mandscape with Danny,
all these ones and one hundred episodes. I feel like you've done a lot
in a hundred episode. We have we have, we have Yeah, this
right here. I'm glad it's just the three of us for the hundredth episode.
I mean that, now that I think about it, I didn't really
get I wanted to do more from the hundredth today and I knew I had
some stuff this afternoon, and then things kind of went off the rail because
you never know. I've learned a lot. I've learned that things take twice
as long as you back, you know, whether it be the logo behind
me and the logos outside our studios and just everything. When we go take
a leak outside the other room, Yeah, it takes a little longer than
we talk, I know, straight baby. Yeah. Um, that's a
great question. Did I think it would be this successful? I guess I
never, So I'm never satisfied. So to me, I mean, I
know we're going to building and building and building you are now. I feel
like, so you've done a ton just to get us to where we are,
and you know we've helped, but yes, you have tremendously, uh
more than I think that I I think that there should be more credit given,
if I'm being perfectly honest, Like more credit given in terms of just
the support, the back end, the the you know, calling with an
idea, interrupting your days, right, I mean now all that shit,
honestly. Uh. And it's been you two and I And you're right by
mentioning Angie and Foodie and uh, I think I hurt people's feelings along the
way as well. You know, the people we've met brought in Stephanie then
Stephanie. So I get it. I get it. Mark and I got
text from Stephanie today too. I didn't get a text from Stephanie. Okay,
I did not get a text. This is about Pearl Jimps. She's
very upset. She wants to tell you about it on Sunday. Okay,
she's really upset with the band. I did not get. I do get
a text with Stephanie. Okay. I got a Facebook message and I'm afraid
that I shouldn't say it, which means absolute where I go all the time
when I feel like I shouldn't. Uh. I got a message today?
Should I say it? Who it's from? Absolutely? Okay? No,
no, turn them mics off, tells you it's from, and then tell
us the message that way. Okay, you can say so, yeah,
but I don't know. No, no, you don't think so no,
okay, all right. So I get a message from that guy and the
message is Stephanie is so crazy. I'm surprised she's not your wife. And
I go, oh shit, person, stay tuned. We have another hundred
episodes. And I wrote, ha, ha ha, how dare You's my
response? Yeah? You might want to protect him, can't leave him and
witness protect Yeah, okay, thank you. I don't know him, but
he's a good dude. From everything I've heard, he's a great dude.
He's a great dude person. And it was just meant as a joke.
It was just meant to be funny. Uh, and it made me laugh
and I appreciated that the person was checking out the podcast to know what they
were, you know, writing and all that stuff. Just say to save
us all have getting seventy eight text messages from who know who? Really talking
about we really talking about when we when we worked together on CMF and uh,
you know after the divorce with with with the other guy, and uh,
when this dude was working when he would send us a he's go,
don't tell we Yeah, but he would send us ideas and stuff and we
would use someone. Oh god, you know it's funny because you say,
like I never envisioned Kevin Nett. You're making me think and I feel like
I'm I'm stammering all over the place, and I apologize. Do you need
to drink because you're thinking? But there's been often that I thought, at
some point I want to do almost Uh. You know, how people go,
how it started and where's it Going's how it's going? And I have
the shot. Would that be the quarterly meeting for the shareholders. It's like
me, you, Kano Danny around the table in my in my kitchen and
then here right, how how it's changed with the logo and everything. And
I was like, I should do like at at the sixth month mark,
which we're what it will be June, right, bring Kano back, take
a picture. Now it's gonna be a's a cloud of green smoke? How's
it going? So I'm like, I go, but that that's true?
I yeah, So this that's how I've always lived. I've never been I've
never Daniel's no, and I hope this is what I'm gonna say. Is
it is true? Uh? Like when the ratings would come out and we
did well, I would suck it in, tell everybody and then uh I
would that would be it the guy's outside wave into us, giving us some
bump. Right, yeah, so I would, and then I would just
back right back at it because I couldn't let it get in my head.
And it was never enough for me. I don't know why. Well,
we had a boss, Dave JT. And the rate when the ratings would
come out that was always six weeks after our last book. Yeah, he
was great, so he would be like, it's great news, but it's
old news. Gotta get back at it. Here we go. Yeah,
I was just thinking, let's talk about qums O day. That was the
thing you said right off the bat is this is not going to foul.
It can't and it won't. You've stretched that sense that day, and you
said that about the break Room, and I mean it was just that show
did not fail either. No how long, I'm still going, yes it
is. And you know, well, I will tell you, like um,
I'll say this, and I hope it gets back to him. I
think think that Tommy Muleae was very underutilized and pigeonholed on The Brother Wei Show,
and not necessarily. And I don't even mean that by Weeze, I
don't mean that. I mean that by management. He was just the funny
guy and that was all he was good for. And I always believed and
I've always believed this, and I think that if I name some comics,
maybe I can make the point even better that you can't be dumb and that
funny. No, the funniest person is usually the smartest. The brain works
a little quicker, They remember things better, they can tie references together.
That I mean that that's such a such a talent and words right, get
the process like a quarterback. Yeah you do. And so to me,
I always thought there was so much more to Tommy. So when we when
they the term that was used to me, and I'll always feel bad people
being let go, but it was additioned by subtraction. What's what was said
to me? This show will do better with us the three of you guys
was and I I could see it. I could see it, and I
knew then like Tommy would start talking about something and he was absorbing, like
Tommy. I again, I'll just say it. I don't know if Tommy
had a learning disability, which please hang on a second. Not not you,
he's the R word. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm
saying that some people learn differently, right, Some people learn visually and mostly
a lot of guys do. Tommy was a very slow reader, like we
used to make fun of him three of the Miles Davis biography. But but
he but he got it. Yeah. So what I'm saying is like he
wasn't a quick reader, but he was a quick study. Yes, And
he would have CNN on all the time, and he was very worldly,
and he loved to travel, and he was a curious guy, and he
wanted to know more. And there were times where I would just back off
and let Tommy talk about different things, because he's more than just the old
grouchy guy or the curmudgeoned or the dirty comic who makes porn. Right,
He's not. He's a he's a really really brilliant guy. And I think
brilliant is an overused term, but I do apply it to him. I
think he's he was brilliant, and I think that that was why. So
Tommy watched and he would say to me all the time, Man, I
learned so much from you while I was just doing I was just doing what
felt right, just like I did here, just what feels right. I
have nothing else. I got nothing else, I got nothing else in life
but what feels right. Right. So he and he and if you talk
to him now, the guy who was like his buddy gave him a watch
that said you'll be fired in six months. They had some kind of bet,
like they didn't think Tommy would last in the radio. Bobby Jewel,
Yeah, he said, so this is back when he first came, when
he first came, Yeah, we both started a CEMF around this scenes.
It wasn't be like flat broke and this was like, he goes, I
don't want to have to travel anymore and be a road comedy. He was
the opportunity with me to have a steady paycheck. So he was looking for
a radio gig and he was looking and there was a show down in Miami.
Uh one of the guy's wives died of AIDS from a blood transfusion,
uh something in Diaz. But he had been on that show a couple of
times, and he was the guy Bobby on the Comedy Club. Tommy had
been on the road, burned through his money, you know he had.
Tommy was a very um financially sound guy. He was serious, like his
dad made him save and Tommy was really smart with money, and he had
the money and he went out on the road. I hope he hears this.
I fucking so hope he hears this, because I don't think I'm saying
anything wrong. Uh. And then at one point, when you know,
it just wasn't coming to the sitcom, or it wasn't coming to the special
or whatever, he wound up going back and staying in Tampa. Um,
and he and Bobby had kind of a very strong friendship, strong relationship.
And then he would be the guy that would pick the comics up, and
it was bethnih picks up Beth, and Beth wanted to go, Hey,
yeah, I'm gonna go take me to the bead store or take me and
hen he kicked her out of the car, find your home, fucking ride,
and Beth fell in love with him because of that, because we're fucked
up. Yeah, I get it. I get it completely, Like you're
like, oh, this is awesome. This guy's got some fucking bass.
All right, Okay, let's go, which isn't how most people were likely
so uh so then um they were looking Earl David Reid had left the brother
weis show. Uh they had been for months without somebody. I was working
in Pikeepsie in the spring at WPDH. I had taken a year off from
Fisher. One day the morning guy doesn't up and he used to ask me
all the time, Hey man, how's what's it like with Weise? How's
weez is cool? Right? What's it like with him? What's the right?
And uh, And then I used to hear bits he produced on Weeze's
show because We's always thought, Abra, I'm not gonna do a bit,
but if it's funny, I'll play it because I still get the credit.
Which he's one hundred percent right. I heard it on the Weis show.
We's undersells himself. He's a really smart guy and and just has a very
unique vernacular that he can express ideas extremely well and be very relatable. Uh
So, one there used to be a thing on the old old fucking days
of radio. I hope I'm not boring people. I think people love this
ship called the the Yellow Pages of Rock. And the Yellow Pages of Rock
had all these radio stations in it. So one day Bob Wolf doesn't show
up. He wound up in Albany. He's still in Poughkeepsie, Okay,
And I'm doing overnights, so I would be there when Wolf and this crew
would come in. So his producers there and this other guy, and they're
like, where do you think he goes? Where's Bob? Where's by a
guy? I know where Bob is? And I opened the Yellow Paces of
the Rock. I find CMF and I circle the number. Then I go
he's here. So the program director is on after the morning show he does
mid days, and he want to be in anyway. So he comes in
and he goes, where's Bob today? And they're like, I don't know,
I don't know. They go. Rand thinks he's interviewing for a job
at this radio station right here. So he calls and yep, Wolf had
been on the air of that morning with Brother Weez auditioning to be the sidekick.
Now, Bob was not a guy who could really be a sidekick.
He was he was definitely a host. He was really talented, really really
good and very creative. But I don't that role wouldn't have been right.
So he comes back and he is fucking pissed, pissed at me. I
fucked did I fucked him out of this? He's screaming at me. I
go, Buddy, I like, I don't know. This is a story
of my life, Like I need to say shit. And then I thought,
Danny, it's just an example of a fucking million other one. So
I'm like, hey, man, I didn't I just you always asked me.
I put two and I'm not an idiot and I and so now it
I leave, I go spend the summer in Utah. I come back to
Fisher. They still haven't hired anybody to replace Earl David Reid. It's October
nineteen ninety three or September. My old man says to me. He used
to send me fifty dollars every two weeks to party at Fisher. Just do
whatever I wanted, send me a check. And it was sort of his
I think he loved doing it. He wanted me to enjoy it. And
I ended up spending most of that money on a phone bill to a girl
back down that way, and it was a stupid thing. So now that
I had to take the year off, you know some not necessarily academic trouble,
but other stuff. He said to me, I'm not giving you any
money to party. You're gonna have to get a job or do something.
So I'm like, shit, what am I gonna do? So I had
been a waiter in Park City, and I'm like, I don't know if
I want to wait tables because that takes your Friday and Saturday nights, you
beast nights, and I want to fucking drink. This is the beginning of
his lebat blue period, and I you're right, and I go, I
don't. And the other thing was I said, I go, if I'm
gonna, I'd give it up for radio because then I'd at least being on
the radio. That'd be cool. So I called brother Weeze one morning and
like every all the dorm rooms around me have the Wheeze go on. And
I get on the air and I said, hey, um and I comment
on whatever they're talking about, and he liked what I said, and then
we started talking. I go, are there any openings at the station And
he's like, but the weeds don't know about Probably you would send it to
stand me all this shit. So I said, okay, I said,
I worked with Bob Wolf, I know, and I knew he knew him.
And so I called back to PDH and I go, hey, I
want to get I'm gonna apply to CMF. I have a demo tape.
Can would somebody write me a letter recommendation? The program director goes to Bob
Wolf and he Bob says, he absolutely refused to write me a letter recommendation.
And he said to him, you owe me one, and you're gonna
do this, and he wrote me a letter of recommendation. Yeah, I
know yep. I got a letter recommendation from Bob Wolf. I sent it
all the Stan Maine and Stan. All of a sudden, I get this
call. I come back to my dorm room and there were still answering machines
since the nineteen ninety three and my roommates going, God, listen to this,
and it's Stan Maine saying, hey, give me a call, blah
blah soul. I meet with Stanley and he's like, we do five hours
because I sent him stuff, Danny. I had aliens landing, I had
peted in the snow and now they're eating is. I was calling pay phones
in the middle of the night again, weather report from crackheads. I was
fucking like that was my demo tape. And I didn't know this until years
later, but Tony Infantino said to me, he goes man, Stan was
blown away by your demo tape. He had never heard somebody so young just
just doing this shit on the radio. I go, yeah, because nobody
did it. That was the thing, is like, nobody had the opportunity.
I knew no one important was listening to six, so I just did
whatever the fun right, Well, I hated playing music. I got bored.
Yeah, I got fucking bored. But you know, the eighth time
I love the Stones eight times at night, I'm like, fuck this,
and I just started talking a lot. So that's how it began. And
then I came there. So now it's nineteen ninety three and they hired Tommy.
They had apparently hired another guy, told him he had the job,
he didn't signed anything yet, and then Beth calls Weeze and We's goes to
management and goes, yeah, I give this guy a chance. And then
they bring in Tommy. And then I remember the liners and because I called
him Ummu, I didn't know it was Mulay and he came in and he's
been here ever since. But his buddy thought he would be short lived.
Yeah, and so we I started like a week before Tommy did, but
I was on weekends and I was a student official. So he's got to
be coming up with thirty years in radio. Well it was nineteen ninety three,
right, it's it's twenty twenty three, So in October it will be
thirty years of ula in rachos you got it, yep, skills on Danny
damn. Yeah. But yeah, so and and I'm telling you I always
thought that that guy. So the fact that that show is doing well,
I will tell you I had a conversation today. Um, I'm wearing a
jean jacket. I kept it on because I was cold. These guys from
making fun of me. I went to get my hair cut, say Journey
on the back. That does not it does, bon Jovi, it does
not. Fuck you both go in to get my hair cut. Oh well,
much jacking on the pud so okin so I can stay womb. They
get my hair cut and they gave me all. I'm getting hair rat jacket.
And some people may know a gentleman who's doing a lot of McDonald's in
town. His name was Richard Guan Richie Guana, great guy, very community
oriented and did a lot for the Red Rochester area. His daughter cuts my
hair. Okay, So I go in there and I hand her. She
always it's give me your jacket, and she'll hang it up, and she
goes, I don't know what I think of this Jane jacket. I'm saying,
I don't know. So then she asked the woman cutting hair next to
her, and he goes no. So then the woman who's getting her hair
done by this other stylist gets up and she puts on the jean jacket,
and the woman doing the size they put on their jean jacket. They go,
see all the cool kids wear I'm when I go, so, you're
saying I'm a chick. It's basically you're saying I'm a chick. And then
I go, I don't care. I have always I've had a jean jacket
my probably since I was nine. I've had a jean jacket. I don't
know. I don't get it. So my first day of Fisher, I
wore jean jack Did you said House of Blues on the back? Yeah,
so I can relate. I like it. That's fine whatever. I just
threw it on today and then uh, but while I was there, a
woman says to me talking about weeds and stuff, and then says, I
woke up to the break room. She goes, I don't know how.
I must have had on CMF. I was listening to the song and she
goes, in this and in my house, I have it through sonos or
whatever, and it came on as my alarm and I woke up to the
break room. She goes, God, that Tommy is so funny. I
got so invested, and they go, yeah, he is. He is.
He's brilliant, he is. He is the funniest guy. I would
think on radio anywhere in the country, tie me up against anybody. And
I have said that to him, and he's always humble. But I believe
that I would say, like, you know who I always thought was really
really great, Artie Lange on The Stern Show, Tommy's better. I agree.
I've always said that. Yep, I've always said Jackie too well,
Jackie was just yeah, but Jackie was Jackie was more of a writer,
right, But I mean either way, I went, wow, I mean
he was the that that is true. So I'm getting buzzed and I'm and
I'm rambling. I told well, I told Tommy how how brilliant I thought
he was the first couple of weeks I worked with him. But I think
he thought I was just kissing his ass and blowing smoke. I wasn't.
No, you know, so we never got oh so we did get your
question? Yeah? Yeah, how Why would I misconstrue your question? You
always misconstruing? Say always add a smiley emoji because tone gets lost in text
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dot com. It's the early theme from the Jerry Springer Show. Well bumped
with the different themes from Jerry Springer, who passed away pancreatic cancer at seventy
nine years old, and I think Steve Wilco said he saw him about a
week or two ago and had no idea that he was even sick. He
had kept that very private and then obviously took quite the turn for the worst,
but had done the Jerry Springer Show far I think twenty seven set seasons
or twenty seven years and then did judge Jerry. He was a lawyer,
I mean kind of a fascinating life. When you think about Jerry Springer,
you know it's mayor Cincinnati. Yeah, he was a city councilman in nineteen
seventy one, becomes mayor in nineteen seventy six, does one term, and
then wants to run for governor of the state of Ohio and loses in the
primary. Winds up being a TV news anchor, and then they allow him
to do a commentary. He does the commentary, and then from what I
understand, it led to the show that we know now. I will tell
you I was never a big fan of um uh, Jerry Springer's Big All
Night. I don't understand what's happening tonight. You've had half a glass on.
I know more. No, you're right, A lot going on.
Yeah, I'm I'm off tonight. I'm not feeling right tonight. Bill doesn't
like hugs. He's not a hug guy. Yeah, well, maybe during
the break things are things you've been thinking. There are things that are bothering
me that shouldn't be bothering me, but they're bothering me, and the things
that that should bother you like that. Jeane Jacker, I love my Jeane
Jacket. I gonna ask you, where do you get your hair done?
Could you say, yeah, Larry James slant okay in webster Okay. So
I was getting my haircut from a guy and he the haircut, and Jack
was getting his um. He was packing up his business, and all of
a sudden, I get this a call from this woman. Hi, my
name is Randy. Uh so and so told me that you were a client
of his. I cut men's hair. I work at the Larry James salon.
So I go, okay, great, and I make an appointment and
I go to Lady James. Where are they? Yeah, don't do you
know a sports It's like a sports Yeah, it's like a sports James.
And I go, hey, I'm here, and I go, uh okay,
well we don't have any you just want a haircut? I said,
yeah, I made an appointment. What part of the venue. I talked
to room Randy and no, no, They go, oh, oh,
you're looking for Larry James, not Lady James. Larry James. And I
go, oh good, because I really didn't want to like so And I
went down there and she was cool and our kids at the time went to
school together, and I was it. I've been going there ever since?
Okay, cool, probably been about five six years. And then back to
Jerry Springer. Yes, yes, Jerry Springer. I never I would get
like almost depressed when he watched that show. I would feel bad. I
don't know if any of it was real or not, but there were things
like this, I'm really a man. I remember that episode shut Off.
I remember it well. So many episodes where the check was a man.
I don't know, but but see, I want to play this all the
way through because we're living in a world now where transitioning is more accepted.
Right, it's more accepted. I don't know if there's more people doing it,
possibly, but there's more tolerance for it. Right. There are more
risticular injuries and women's sports now than ever before. I don't really, man,
don't let me go there with me. You say you love me and
you can accept me for who I am. I do love you, but
not that. What is it? What is it? Let me say it,
Let me say she's not no way I have this, I have,
but you got this. I want this, not this, okay, this
this thing to be with the stick hangers and the stick his tongue to its
poised, his penis, and I go, I don't know if this is
real. It's not real. But how long were you dating that you didn't
know? Now, maybe she kept saying, I can't put a in to
B until I'm married, or I'm a virgin and I'm not comfortable, And
so she took care of the guy in other ways because something clearly, some
sexual act had happened. Yeah, because if this is real, because this
guy looked he legitimately looked shocked, like why But at the same time,
Dugingham feel you'd think orde or there a good job tucking. Well. There
was this twenty twenty story about that couple in France where the guy French,
he just with this woman for twenty years and then found out later he was
the check was a dude and they had a kid together. Barbara Walters the
strangest love story ever told. How could this man make love to this woman
for twenty years without realizing he was really a man? Do you know how
kids work? They have both they both he was a dude. He was
just a dude. Well who had the baby adopt? Yeah? Like he
kept stuffing himself with like, you know, like a basketball or whatever.
The eventually one dumb frenchman. Yeah, well the Frenchman ended up being gay
too, right, so I was like it was like, okay, make
it makes sense now, none of them. But back to Jerry. Yes,
yeah, we used to watch this in high school all the time.
One guy got the video. There was like that video Jerry's best gone while
too hot for TV? Right? Can we watch too hot for TV?
Like? No? Like like they did show like girls like more more fights.
Uh you see a boob every once in a while, like pop out
stuff like that. But it really was just an extension of the show.
It wasn't anything like you know, but the fact of the matter is not
the magic man. I got the flash, I got the cash, and
I'm gonna snatch you. I'm bad. I used to get so like honestly,
I would have almost have a visceral reaction, like I'm like, yeah,
this is just people behaving horribly. Yeah, I go it's sad,
It's sad. And then at times I thought it was Jerry capitalizing on this
and the answers yes, yes, But at the same time I felt like
it was almost he well, listen to this. This is his twenty fifth
anniversary. So today we start out twenty fifth year of doing this show.
My gratefulness are passed only by my surprise, my surprise that its longevity.
How in the world did we last so long. Let's be honest, Virtually
anyone could do what I do, which is to basically say three things you
did? What come on out, We'll be right back. You practice that
and you'll be hosting your own show in no time. Oh there is one
other thing that brings success. Luck, lots of it, and surround yourself
with smart, talented people who know a heck of a lot more about television
than I do. Look, I've been blessed through these twenty five years to
have people of enormous talent and drive producing a show of constant challenges which can't
be saved day to day by simply booking a big name celebrity. You see,
we don't have any on our show. No, just regular folks of
no fame, little of any wealth, and very little influence. Folks just
taking a moment which they rarely have ever, get to let the world know
something about what they are thinking, or feeling or doing. Admittedly it's often
crazy or outside the norm of accepted behavior, but what I've learned over our
court to century of shows is that deep down we are all alike. Some
of us just dress better or had a better education or better luck than the
gene pool of parents. I'll say it again, deep down we are all
the same. We all want to be happy. We cry when we're hurt,
we're angry when we've been mistreated, and to be liked, accepted,
and respected, not to mention loved, is the greatest gift of all.
Yes, we're all alike. Know this. There's never been a moment in
the twenty five years of doing this show that I ever thought I was better
than the people who appear in our stage. I'm not better. Only luck
here I ended it there, so he kind of choked up, and then
he said he never took himself too seriously, No, I mean. And
then that's the thing, is like there was an authenticity almost um, a
realness to him, Like I really believe what he just said. Yeah right,
I really believe that in his life he didn't think he was better than
the people. And yet most of us watched that show because we felt like
we were better than the people. You know what I mean. At least
that's not me. At least that's not me. And I remember one time
going, I can't watch this. It makes me too upset. I don't
like seeing people like get at each other over stuff. Now someone was probably
animated into televisions all that, but there were moments I didn't like it.
But man, he ran for damn near thirty years with that show. Yeah
right, The peak was in the nineties. It was about the same time
that Beavis and butthead just to give you an idea of the thought process of
the American uh taste. It certainly was an eighteen thirty four demo younger people.
And I gotta tell you, like if I would have, I mean,
you find find my eighteen year old self, my twenty one year old
self. I want to be in Jerry Springer's audience, Yes, I want
to absolutely. I want to see this ship. You got a little home
right there. You can't even tell tweetde twit hat that pitiful. Aparently this
woman was banging twins, but she didn't know which was which. To help
you, Why did you serious, fiping boy? I just want to who
the hell's watching to try to buy you? Two numbskulls are shot? Jerry?
Did do ship? You say? Like Jerry, he just like fell
into it. Yeah. At the time, like Harald though and then Ricky
were the more controversial, Yeah, because Oprah had kind of Oprah kind of
pivoted toward being what she is now because she kind of had some celestious stuff
but it really wasn't But at the time, you know, Phil Donna Hue
was more serious. Sally Jesse Rafael was controversial. And then I sat in
her show, did You Really? And then Herlda would push it a little
further because she taped in Hartford, Connecticut, not far from where Kevin Sun
has. Yeah, he's gonna go to Quinnipiac Quinnipiac and then after and then
so and then you know, Harlda pushed it. Then Ricky Lack pushed it
a little more, and then Jerry just blew the little off. Yeah he
did, you know. Yeah, And I don't know, like what happened
with Ricky Lake or whatever. Well, I almost felt like Ricky Lake didn't
like what Ricky Lake was doing, and she wanted to be an actress and
a singer and a yeah, but I think she also wanted to do something.
I don't know, I'd be a fascinating interview, Uh, But if
you were gonna say anything like Oprah would dip a toe into the celestious a
little bit, I think most people would say would be a little more highbrow
or um cerebral. I don't even know if cerebral is really a fair term.
But she was, you know, a little a little more highbrow,
yeah, and didn't get into you know, are like Morey was years and
years and years of I mean, his big thing was the daddy. How
are you the daddy? And people would tune in over and over and over,
and I want you just stop for just a second and think about this.
We're we're at a point in our own country where we have a real
real division about conception and abortion and when one can happen and is it legal
and is it not legal? And we're laughing at whether or not somebody got
pregnant. And the fact that all three of us at anybody is watching,
anybody who listens to this podcast, that you're here is pretty much a miracle
because the odds aren't that great. You're talking about a few eggs and millions
of sperm, right, because the odds are so limited. My father used
to tell me, he goes that's to me the only athletic contest you ever
won. But do you understand what I'm saying, Like that's firm, ye,
but out of millions, Yeah, you won the lottery just being alive,
That's it. And so when so many times we're miserable and shit,
but when we laugh about it, and I often think, like, think
of the and it happens the young girl who has sex for the first time
and ends up pregnant, unprotected, She goes away to college, maybe she
said sex a few times, one night, things get a little and the
next thing you know, she's pregnant. And then I want you to take
that thought in your head, that scary moment that I think everybody can relate
to, like, oh God, what do I do? And I want
you to think of the of the couple that is spending hundreds of thousands of
dollars, yeah, to just get pregnant and going through hell as hormones fluctuate
and mood swing and all these things go on and the guy can't figure it
out, having the time out like the injections, you got it, and
now it's a good time for me and this is it, and a turkey
whatever the fuck goes on and it almost well, like bass what I was
thinking about it, and I paused, But I'm thinking, like you juxtapose
those two things, and it almost seems unfair. It almost seems unfair,
and that I often think now as an old guy. If my father would
always say to me, he was always very, very philosophical about it,
to go, you know what, I would always be for choice, because
if some girl did something, if you got some girl pregnant and we found
out later she had an abortion, it wouldn't have changed your life at all,
it wouldn't have changed her life at all. Really. But at the
same time, he would always say to me too in different conversations that anybody
I've known who's had an abortion for the rest of their life, they always
wonder what would have been. Maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong. I
have no idea. I never talked to somebody who did that, and I
would never ask somebody if somebody said to me I did have an abortion,
I would go, did you think about it? Every day? You know
what? I'm like, I'll ever do that. But fair points, so
as we go through this, I would always think, like, if you
could give the child up for adoption, and I do know somebody who did
that was young and and got pregnant, with a full support of family and
the full support of a charity, was able to find a wonderful home and
then many many, many, many many years later was reconnected because the child
wanted to find you know who. And uh, but again, life never
really changed and went on, probably thought about it once in a while,
but went on and had fun and did their thing and you know, and
grew up. Yeah, right, you grew up, right, you know,
seventeen eighteen, nineteen years old. You're not growing up and these things
happen. But I if you could, if you could give it up for
adoption, I think that's oneful if the other it's your choice where you could
drop it off at the Morey Show, no questions asking for a minute,
though we would cheer, like you know, the guy would go, I
told you it wasn't me, you right, the boy guy who do the
big wiggled dances for Meanwhile, this woman is pregnant was something that's gonna be
on this planet? Right? And then what what kind of life are we
bringing that person into? That's not fair either. I hope that Morey lives
long enough to two shows where he brings where he brings on the children.
Oh my god, who were born Danny from his show Danny. Yeah.
I think that's a great ideas, your growing up like a bay. It's
all started with Jerry Springer seventy nine died today pancreatic cancer. That's too bad.
Yes, they sit surrender by family. And had was a lawyer.
Yeah, I think about that law school, ran for city council wins.
Didn't he get a rest? Yeah, that's all I was gonna say.
He got a rest from paying for a prostitute with a personal personal track.
You this I did not I did not know this. He always got a
joke about it. Oh yes, wow. Yeah. Was he single of
that? Because I knew he was divorced and he has a daughter. I
don't know. I don't know. I just know he paid for us.
So what do I spell your name? Misty? Is it with one tea?
Is that? You've heard us talk about Cobblestone on Maine and Webster Man.
A lot of our our listeners have gone there and absolutely love it.
And somebody said to me, I gotta get out there. It sounds so
great, it is so great. We're not telling me we wouldn't send me
to some place that wasn't right exactly. We test these ourselves. Yes,
And we went out there and and Dan Bresnahan not only is you a friend,
but he's just a great guy. And you walk in there, and
any place takes on what the the uh the vibe of the owner, right,
And so when you walk into Cobblestone on Maine, it's a cool hi
man. They've got great live music that plays right in the front. They
have fantastic craft cocktails, they've got great beers, everything from Guinness, which
I love all the way uptaining ipa you've ever wanted. And then the food,
Yeah, oh right, now you can go there and get a fourteen
ounce dry rubbed bone in pork chop, smoked blue cheese, old grotten potatoes,
which I really want to try, and roasted corn salad and barbecue Chrispy
onions. That's just one item on the menu. But doesn't that sound so
good? Amazing? Yeah? And then as somebody else told us that they
love the Brussels sprouts over there, we've told you about the tater tots,
which sounds ridiculous to me because I always think third graders love tater tots no
tell about and the nachos you can't get soggy. They don't write. We
love that, And he said to us, Yeah, it's the chef I
hired. You always hear people say, surround yourself by great people who know
more than you do. Dan did that. When it came to the food.
He even does the big pretzel and he does something I've never seen with
the everything seasoning instid of just salt. Oh that was really good, dude.
Well look at this. I did not know you test something. Cobbles
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Yeah, sit by yourself and soak in the day at the bar like the
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you don't have to go to take a trip a couple hours away and
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you're looking for something a little different, why not go down Red White
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know you know, White Baby watched the entire trilogy. I thought it.
I don't. Yeah. Well, uh that says a lot because so she
had watched The Godfather. Yea, I had watched Star Wars. All right,
compromise, Kevin, what do you have to watch? And I even
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Red White and brew Rock dot com. The Terry Springer's theme from the late
nineties, I think they had about five or six different theme songs. Yeah,
over thirty years, you're gonna need a few socks. I heard ferdinan
Jay from Jaffercise. He wrote to Day in a Chevy. Well you always
they wrote a lot of like the Olympic themes. Oh yeah, this is
did he do that one too. Uh he may have. Yeah, Yeah,
they're very talented. They did a lot of great stuff. Uh,
thank you for getting your pot on. Thanks for hanging out with us.
The NFL is brilliant. I'm watching we have it on in the studio.
Uh. I don't even know what time the actual draft begins. I would
assume eight o'clock o'clock. All right, son, just a couple of minutes
from when, right now? So so, but they have I mean the
places. It's in Kansas City in case there, there's a giant stage there,
fansis lined up packed in there. It looks like a concert. Yeah,
it looks like a concert all to see guys get chosen by a team.
There's gonna be busts, there's gonna be stars, happens all the time.
Might be a Hall of Famer or two. I like that Will Levis.
I think he's gonna be something. I really do. The story behind
Will Levis is that his decision making isn't the best. But if you look
at the school he went to, it's a basketball school. It's not a
it's not a football school. So I mean, I think there's potential there.
I mean, of course he is one of what now four quarterbacks like
you could be that's gonna be the thing. Now, Josh Allen's how the
poster child for hey, you know he could be Josh Allen. Right,
so, and Levis is one of them. I think Levis is gonna end
up in indianapolist Okay, yeah, all right, that makes sense. Now
it's early. So by the time you get this podcast, maybe I'm right.
Well it's not. It's not far from Kentucky. Of you get a
lot of fans for probably both, and that'd be great. By the way,
did you see what arch Mannings, What the Mannings have told Arch Manning?
He is the son of Cooper. He committed to Texas. They said,
you're not going to get an nil nil deal until you become the started
quarterback. Now. But he's like, well, the Mannings of a ton
of money, that's why. But I think it's because they don't want him
to get preferential treatment or appear to his teammates like he's a brilliant move.
Because Chris Sims could tell you a story where he showed up at Austin in
a limousine his first day of school and he never heard the end of it.
Why would he do that because his death I don't know, Like that
doesn't sound like something Phil would have him do either. He showed up in
a limousine and he got hell for it. Here, who's kid bought a
boat while he was in college? You know, things happen. What can
I What can you say about that? But I am so impressed with the
NFL, with the way they market this and they've turned them into events.
Oh must see right, I'm excited to see who goes first, right,
Yeah? That. I want to see if the Bills trade up or down
or stay put. I want to see who they take. Yeah. I
learned after the Allen Draft that I don't know anything and I don't listen to
anybody because nobody knows spit. Yeah, but I'll say this, Uh,
it's going to be interesting to see how the fans react to what the Bills
decide to do it. You could say that probably pretty much any team,
sure. But the biggest thing is I want to see if the NFL Draft
crushes all the other sports going on tonight, whether it's baseball, basketball,
or hockey. The NBA and the NHL I think are in airing playoffs or
yea I've been watching a lot. Are they playing tonight the Heat? Last
night Heat eliminate a Box. That was a great game in Milwaukee. Yes,
I watched that. I watched that game series. Yeah, so I
was watching that one and then the Knicks beating the Calves. That's the one
thing about New York. Everybody's a Knicks fan. Like baseball, they're split
football, they're split hockey, they're split. But basketball, you could say
Brooklyn, Brooklyn was in New Jersey, but they are all Knicks fan.
It used to be you would hear Nets, Mets and Jets m I think
only because it was you know, they rhymed. Yeah, that was basically
it. And it was Yankees Rangers and uh Giants Giants, and I was
a Giants fan as a kid growing up in the Yankees fan. I didn't
really get into hockey, but hockey in the playoffs as well. But we
won't let jacket. But I want to see if the NFL draft actually like
beats all those in the ratings, because it just it'll just go to show
you, like I don't. I like to hope it. I really hope
it doesn't. I think some of the games, especially the West Coast games
are gonna start later. I don't are they playing tonight? No, they
played last night LA and Memphis. Memphis won that game, Lebron, I
I'm shot an airball off for three. I watched it. Yeah, I
was like, oh my god, I've never seen it. They're punks.
Yeah, they are punks. I figured they would win that game. I
think I think ALA is gonna win the series. And uh, you're a
big basketball guy. Well, I enjoy basketball. I have not. I
wouldn't say I'm that big, but I you know, if it's on,
I do enjoy watching it. Uh. I did I think, like,
you gotta go twenty years, Lebron? You know. And I know there's
a lot of talk about what did he do to preserve his body that long.
I don't know that he went the same road as a Tom Brady.
A lot of people think there are steroids in there. I mean, there
are there's rumors out there. I no, no, I know that they're
those those rumors that going on for about fifteen years with Lebron. Yeah,
like remember when he cramped up during the NBA Finals. Well, that's a
byproduct from steroid. If you're in shape, you shouldn't be cramping up.
But I thought it was more for hydration. Yeah, well that's what I
thought, But I mean, I don't know anything. Stories, Maybe they
dry out. Yeah, well it was supposed to. It was overly hot
in the arena that night, Yeah, more than normal. The air conditioning
wasn't working or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so but that
was when he was with the heat. No pun intended, but I you
know, it's I have to say this like Lebron, Like when Michael Jordan
left the Bulls. Yeah, they didn't go back to the NBA Final the
first time he left. Yeah, you know, they had Scottie Pippen and
they were still a playoff team. Any team Lebron has left goes into the
crapper just shows you how valuable he is. I've always said this, Jordan
maybe the greatest ever, but Lebron, it might be the most valuable player
ever. And there is a difference. There is a distinction because you take
Lebron off a team, they become a lottery team. Period. It's funny.
I always thought with basketball, you could put one guy on the court
and he could change the trajectory of the team. And he's always and I
used Lebron as that example. I always thought that wasn't necessarily the case with
football, and yeah, listen to quarterback. Well that's funny you say that
because I thought, wow, if you get the right quarterback, I mean,
look at the number of years that the Bills were terrible and you get
the right quarterback in the right combo or you get you know what I mean.
I don't know what it is. I like to still think it's not
one guy, but it is, right, I mean the quarterback, and
yeah, finding that right receiver, building that relate. It takes that one
guy to drive everything. Yeah, I think I think basketball is the biggest
sport where one guy can make the difference. Yeah, yeah, football is
one a if it's a quarterback, it's not gonna be anybody else. It's
gotta be the quarterback. And then after like baseball, you can't not about
hockey, Kevin, I don't know hockeye You kind of carried the Savers for
a while. You had Wayne Gretzky forever, right, Yeah, but the
game was different then, Okay, the game was a lot different. Goalies
were much less padded padded, so there wasn't enough to like reach like the
pads are so big now. I don't know how the get equipment is just
I mean equipment. It's just so much better now too. Yeah, but
it's it's one player can help, but it won't change change. Okay,
all right, interesting, Yeah, so then basketball will be one Yeah,
I would say one guy could change everything. Very very It's not baseball,
no, unless it's a pitcher late. But it's rare. It's very very
rare. You have to go Hurscheizer and pitch every game and be the man.
It's so rare. We talked about Jerry Springer passing on at the age
of seventy nine with pancreatic cancer. We have our own version of the Jerry
Springer Show in our area. Do you know what that is, Billifine?
Well, I guess you could say that the Times of Wayne County. Oh
yeah, okay, right, I believe in an actual show. No,
the Times of Wayne County and their Law and Order section. Yeah, so
I have for years, and I got turned onto it in nineteen ninety nine,
and I it was around the time that Walter Casper sent his wife off
a cliff and some guy fell off a roof. He was like up working
on his roof. He fell off and was impaled by the ad T sign
in the Oh yeah, And I said, stupidly on the radio as a
young guy, that's the first time the sign scared anybody or something and something
to that effect. Right, The poor guy died. He got himpaled on
the sign, fell off and like all the places you're gonna land in the
fucking yard. Yeah, you're falling and you can't see where you're gonna land,
and you land on the sign. His wife played the lottery, I
said, I said, what's going on in Wayne County? And then people
started calling up, going we call him three one five ers and somebody else
goes nine ers, three one plus one plus five. He goes sign.
And then it was you got to see the Times Wayne County. You gotta
look at it. And then I'll never forget two stories. One of the
cops posing for a big drug bust in the bedroom of the house and the
guy goes to me, look on the dresser and there's a giant deal though
the shoulder. And the other was this guy who got arrested and it said
in the Times, Wayne County pulled over for having a break light out,
found to be wearing nothing but a pair of green panties, and on the
seat next to him panties like women's panti You got nothing but green panties.
And on the on the seat next to him was a bottle of Weston oil.
Oh boy, that's right, he's gonna go choke. He's chicken.
That's what I said on the radio, Weston Oil and chicken. And he
was on and he was on his way to Ontario Video and news. He
was said to be on it. So I mean, it was like that
slicious Jerry Springer type of stuff. And over the years then there were guys
that wanted to do a website with me, and I was always afraid because
I was getting yelled at by management all the time. We own everything you
do. Okay, I should have never listened to that, but I was
young and then and then uh, but now I look at the Times of
Wayne County and I often think there's got to be a another side to the
story. Now, I know somebody who I know, somebody who was in
the Times of Wayne County was very upset and I and then I remember the
Times of Wayne County putting a story about somebody going and trying to buy every
addition other times away county so their family wouldn't see that they had. I
can't remember her name. It was a girl, yeah, I think it
was, And so I go, God, this it's it's it's funny,
but it's sad. Right. So we had talked a couple of weeks ago
about and we did this whole thing on X's and Crazy Ex's. I think
it was like episode eighty nine or something like that, as we do the
hundredth tonight, and this one woman had gone to where her boyfriend or lover
or whatever he was worked, and she was accused of doing donuts in the
parking lot and then on the thing and I said, I think there's another
side to the story, and I had reached out to this person on Facebook.
Well last night they get a response. Oh, and I don't want
to say the person's name because they were gonna come on and then at the
request of their lawyer and things, thought it probably wouldn't be prudent for them.
But they're very upset because they feel like they were lied about. Now,
when I actually got down to what was the alleged lie, I would
say it's semantics donuts versus burning it was a heart. You know. It
wasn't a donut, you know what I mean, It was a heart.
But I said to this person, I go and I they wanted to hear
what I said on the podcast, so I dug up the podcast played it
through the phone and they go, well, you were kind of and I
said, I think if you listen to it, I said, there's another
another side to this story. And that would be the thing I would say,
is like, sometimes I almost feel bad for the people in the times
of Wayne County because there is another side to the story, and there isn't
one person who is that can't tell me you haven't been pushed to the brink
by something and you lose your head. And this person felt like probably they
were pushed to the brink and took it further than and maybe their brink is
a little closer to you know, than mine, and whatever. Maybe I
got a little more mileage before I really get upset and I can rationalize things.
But they went to where this person worked and they did something, and
I go, now, I'm certain to if Way County, but I do
like it. Well, it's just funny too, because there were stories in
there about some I think they used to call him the move Man of Williamson.
And then the Times Wayne County was found to be uh feeding a calf
with his hands above his head. Oh yeah, he was in the calf
blow him basically, yeah, it would whip it out and let the calf.
It was a calf. Thinking it was like bottle fetters of the man.
And so I talked a bottle, you know, like your bottle.
Yeah, yeah, So I talked about this guy. Kids call him and
go watch the move Man from He's been arrested a bunch of times. I
think he fucked the cal if you got a nickname the move Man and Williamson,
why are you on the streets? And then my favorite Times Wayne County
story, Yes, go ahead, My favorite Times Wayne County story ever was
the kid who went into Burger King. He reaches over the counter, he
grabs a headset out and he goes out, puts it under his jean jacket
and he sneaks outside, gets in his car and then sits. And then
people will come up in order and they go, Hi, welcome to Burger
King. What would you like and the person would say, you know,
like a whopper. Whopper Junior was fries and the kids go, h,
you're sure you want that? Fat ass? You sure you want that?
Hey, by the way, your daughter's pretty hot. Tell her I want
a banger. So but they didn't know where it was coming from, so
they get all upset. And then the kid went I think, to a
couple of different McDonald's because it's a burger Kings, it's all the same frequency,
and he would just tap into the drive toy thing and then he started
insulting them, telling the fuck off, hey, I wanted to fuck you,
and I think he wound up getting busted. That was like my favorite
Times of Wayne County story. And then I remember talking about it years later
and Kick calls up, goes the man that was my buddy. We were
in high school. So there were some fun stories in there, but some
people get really hurt by it. And this lady is I was very upset
that she was in there and that she was talked about, and she was
going to come on, and I think then consulted her lawyer and I wrote
to her and I said, she said, I'm really sorry, and I
said, there's no reason to be sorry. I think it's for the best.
Right. You still got to go to court and stuff. And I
said to her, you know what it is. It's like you would think
as adults, we would be able to and I think the most important thing
in life, one of the most important things, is to be able to
control your emotions. Don't get too high, don't get too low, and
don't be too reactive. Because this was a reaction to something. I'm not
going to say that it was unwarranted. I don't know the whole details of
the story, but I do believe there was something that motivated that. And
now it's thousands of the dollars, thousands in court fees and your time,
and you got to take off from work, and then you go to court
and you think it's over, and the judge says, we haven't really looked
at this. We need to reschedule this one. So now you've gone.
You don't understand, and that happens. That happens a lot, and it
becomes thousands of dollars all because you had one irrational moment. And if you
could have just paused yourself, or even on the way out there going you
know what, let me just stop and get a cup of coffee and see
if I can come down or maybe I get a shot of a shot of
whiskey or something, and I'll you know what I mean. It's that we
all get there and you're so mad and you're just seeing red. If you
can learn to control your emotions, it may save you thousands of dollars in
a little bit of embarrassment. And I will say this, I don't think
that Ron Holdraker goes out of his way to embarrass people. I think Ron
Holder. I think Ron Holdraker reads the police blotterer and goes, this is
ridiculously funny and puts it in there. I mean, it's a matter of
public record, yep, you know. And if you don't like it,
I understand, but don't do it. Yeah. Yeah, that's anything it's
And that's the tough part because I get it. You know. I always
say there's two sides to every story. But I don't think anything that Ron
is printing is untruthful because I think it's coming from a police blotterer. Yeah,
you know, And it may come down to semantics. It may be
a donut and the police report says burnout. Okay, Well, yeah,
I get it. It's kind of the same thing. I was racing the
track. You know what I'm saying, that's it. But but I like
this person and I feel bad for what happened. And then she sound and
I said, do you sound like a lovely person? You really do?
And this just sounds like maybe a bad moment. There's this there's a story
about this guy I was told in Wayne County and he's got a nickname.
I'm not gonna say what it is because we don't want to embarrass name O
man of Williams. I think they call him Viper. Viper does his elevator
doesn't go all the way at the top. Apparently, Yeah, And apparently
like he's been in trouble before. So he goes online and he finds out
that this girl that he's been talking to is actually underaged. So he wants
to get ahead of it, so he goes to the He goes to the
county Sheriff's office. Yeah, and he tells them about it. They go,
don't worry, we'll come get you. In other words like bro like
okay, all right, Well, I mean it's like our favorite uh,
it's like our favorite nine one one call, yeah, no one? What
is the addit in your emergency? Okay? I just want to My emergency
is this. I met these two young kids at the bar a couple of
nights ago, and I'm sorry, you're gonna think I'm a really bad person.
But he says, he getting a mess. And these were young people,
young like twenties, twenty one, twenty years old. I'm forty one.
So I said, all right, whatever, take my number, comments
you can get it. You call me today. And he said, I
got this close. How much money you guys? So well, geez,
I only got twenty dollars because I'm just strowing on money right now. He
said, all right, I'm gonna come mock me this poor lady. She
goes right, right, yeah, right, Oh I thought I had this
on pause, but yeah, right right, okay, only had twenty dollars,
So can you come here? Basically, he's asking them to come and
test his math. Yeah, I have to make sure it's really math,
that he didn't buy something shitty. I'm sorry. That's a Tisawayne County story.
Yeah, and it's all real. We're listening to the guy at one
twenty one, twenty years old. I'm forty one, So I said,
all right, whatever, take mine on my phone, you can get it.
Call me today and this guy's spilling it at all forty one, So
well, jeez, I only got twenty dollars because I'm just short on money
right now. He said, all right, I'm gonna come to me and
my parents coming over to give it to you. And I heard him lancing
in the background, and then they spoke up in the truck and they looked
like two shady characters, and they tell me they gave me the gave me
just piecing methors just like three times as much as as you get. So
it looked just like it. And when I spoke it up, it looked
just like it. So I sniffed a little bit, and when I think
I got was Beth solved. Yeah, yeah, we can. We can
get somebody for him. What is your address? I don't want any to
become a house because I'm really parent on these guys to fly to kill me,
okay, so I could show him star. I'm really scared. But
I really think these guys are got planning to run because you know, they're
young and crazy. They've got nothing to lose. Forty old middle aged man
has got a drug problem. You know, these guys look real shape,
a little self aware, forty age middle year old, middle aged year old
man. Uh with a drug problem. Uh, I don't know that.
That's the funniest thing, right, that's a funny fun Uh. The Carolina
Panthers are on the clock. Danny Hooon's going to be the number one overall
pick in your opinion. They have eight minutes and fifty four seconds after we'd
record this right now. Frank reichsle the head coach. He's pretty practical.
I think they're gonna go with Bryce Young quarterback. Yes. Now, Bryce
Young has a lot of knocks on size. Yes, yeah, he's not
the biggest dude, but he's very sharp and he's got the athletic ability.
The knock on saving quarterbacks is that, well, they have a great offensive
line, they have a great running game, they have great receivers, so
they don't have to do a heck him a lot like Mac Jones. There's
only five ten where you know, you look at Josh Allen, was he
six to five? Yeah, and so they're gonna look at him and go,
you know, I mean like like like I said, like Russell Wilson
was the poster child of short quarterbacks. Yeah, so but I mean he's
the only one, right, That's what I think. You know, we
Doug Flute, he had to go to Canada, and then when he came
to Buffalo, he surprised some people. Then they figured him out after a
year and he really was never the same. So, I mean, there
was there's a reason why there was a Flute Johnson controversy. Yeah, and
you know, Flutie lost the job. I'm not saying it was the right
thing to do at the time, but the point is, you know,
you gotta be able to see over the line of scrimmage things. Yeah,
well five ten you should be able to do. I think Flutie was five
nine. He's five ten. Yeah, Okay, well maybe I'm wrong.
We'll take a moment, we'll come back. He was saying. I'm just
admitting we'll see who the Carolina Panthers take with the first overall pick in the
twenty twenty three NFL draft. Robock Brewing Company is Rochester's original craft brewery.
Since nineteen ninety one, they've started the Neoteric series and they have released something
called the New England India Pale Owl and it is delicious. Kevin brought in
in here one night. You can pick it up anywhere you pick up your
beer at your Beer to Ghost tour, but if it comes in four packs
or you can get it on draft anywhere around the Great Rochester area, it
is really good Bathed in Light. Of course, you could always go over
to the Beer Hall and enjoy it there. I love. The Beer Hall
is on Railroad Street, and of course it's kind of the headquarters for Robock
Brewing Company, so why not go in there. They have a great brunch
on Saturdays. They're closed on Sundays, and you can get it even a
beer mosa. A beer mosa with usually the Space Kitty, but maybe you
could say, you know what, I want to try a beer mosa with
this delicious double dry hop New England, India pal owl known as Bathed in
Light. Bathed in Light. Robock Brewing Company rod just as original craft brewer
since nineteen ninety one. Paul Cole is the president, I'm going to say,
CEO and promoter of Land of Legends Raceway where they had to postpone the
race last week due to inclement whether Paul, it's looking like a fifty percent
maybe nine depending on who you talk to, chance of rain this Saturday.
So what do you do, then well we just started our season later.
Yeah, you know, at the end of the at the end of the
you know, it's a clay track and when the clay is what, you
can't race not safe. So and the delay you can do is delay and
postpone. Yeah. Do you have to make these races up at any point?
Like will there be weekday races or is it just we just shortened the
season by two races. No, it shortens the season. Um, you
know we're a Saturday night track. Yeah, so we have Saturday we have
Satday night racers. You know, we can't suddenly decide to add point shows
on a Friday or a Thursday or a Tuesday. Um, you know,
if we do midwek shows, they're typically nine points. Okay, so that's
that's not desirable. And at the end of the end of the year,
the weather typically doesn't get any better. And then you're competing against other other
tracks for their their premim shows. We have a premiere show with the Hair's
memorial and uh, you know the following week, you know, I'll be
sarat Toga has a race. The following we cut Found has a big race.
You know, so there's you know, there's you know, taking care
of the drivers and make sure the tracks all do step on top of each
other. I don't think I was aware of how many logistics are involved in
this. Oh yeah, every you know, it's it's recording about burning a
small city. Yeah, you know, we have to prepare the track,
you know, we have to we have we have we have a full kitchen
operation. You know, it's like fining the food. You know, I've
got three hundred hamburgers plus sitting in there right now that you know, I
only buy fresh meat from from fall our food and uh, I'm not I'm
not gonna freeze it. So I have to try to him to sell it
or you know what in the business. That business it's sell her to smell
it. So we will figure sell or smell it. I think that's a
I think I think that's a T shirt, Paul. I think you need
to print that up and sell it at the race trash. Yeah, well
that's that's that's that's the food industry. You know, you have you have
a perishable Yeah, and uh, you know, so we have that.
We have that aspect. You know, obviously the drivers, you know,
we can we can try to push it and then you know risks there.
It's putting a lot of diffel to get here and to be rained out.
You know, fans will lose, lose, you know, confidence in you
that uh you know you're you're you're looking out for for their their dollars as
well. Um, so it's making great decisions not always easy. But you
know, these guys are all racers. They want to race that they you
know, we want to race. You know, we spend all week getting
ready. This has been a beautiful week for the most part, and we've
been we've been all ready for two weeks. Now we're sitting here with faded
brus ready to put things, put things into motion. Yeah, make it
all happen. I didn't know that you've gotta you get your meat from Palmers.
Do you use the Ridiculous Burghers? Uh? No, We we get
their fresh uh uh pretty drawn beef. Okay, they they package it fresh
and we don't freeze it. I absolutely love Palmer's meats. The food it's
it's unbelievable. And they have something over there called the Ridiculous Burger, which
is one of my favorites. But you know that now now I'm gonna have
to have a hamburger every time I come down. And that's and that's the
important part. You know again, giving a good meal to somebody when they
come here, is how part of that memory that decides they want to come
back again or not. Yeah, that's you know, if you grab a
grab a crappy frozen patty out of out of the freezer and uh, it
tastes like it came off came off of the you know, the back of
the grill. You know from from a couple weeks ago, that nobody's gonna
want to bite again. Right, that's very true. Look at you such
such I'm just amazed at the amount that goes into it. I really really
am That's very impressive. And I tell you, anytime I've been out there,
it's been a blast, absolute blast, land of legends. Hopefully fingers
crossed Saturday night. If not, then the following Saturday, absolutely okay,
so that would be May sixth potentially. If it doesn't go off, then
the mother Nature still has their way. She will be made thirteen. You
know, we we won't give up. We'll be we'll be ready to race.
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Somebody wrote on sorry jean jacket it I thought rocking the gene I always keep
on rocking with jacket. So the woman who cut my hair, when she
takes the jacket, she goes brand is this? And I got, you
know, Mic drop last. It was chic Jake Crew, Oh okay,
and she goes, well, Jay Crew. Is that even in the mall
anymore? No, well, you might just say any power Ja Crew or
l L Bean. But they could have gene jacket night. They could be
they could you know, and they could pull it off on the west side.
It's no big deal. Okay, So why is it you guys wouldn't
wear a geene jacket, would you? You wouldn't even wear one to BTBS.
No, No, no hiring crowd there. I'd like the well,
I'd go out tonight, did gene jacket? I've been getting killed on it.
I'll tell you what, if they give me a on fired pizza,
I'll wear a gene Jack. We'll wear it. That's good pizza. By
the way, Dad is great pizza. Two ten dollars on Tuesday, ten
dollars on Friday Friday. I mean, you can't lose it, no,
right, perfect, I would order two. They got fifty TVs. You
can go over there and watch Bryce Young, who is the first pick in
the end the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, Texans took J Stroud. CJ
Stroud, who will be playing for the Texans, called that one too.
Yeah, very cold, and you could see all this action in the fall
when they're going to be playing. Potentially, would at btb's wood fired Pizza
and Grill with fifty televisions, fifty TV's, lots of delicious beers, taco
Tuesdays, eight dollars, burghers on Wednesdays, ten dollar pizzas on Tuesdays and
Fridays. They got a lot of really cool things happen. They do,
and they even do comedy in the back room. I didn't know that,
No, I did not know. They said, Mark go back there and
tell stories about what he likes to do in his spare time. He just
goes TV's wood fire, pizza and grill on them all Ridge show up a
perfect place for lunch, dinner, and Sunday brunch. BTBS would fire pizza
and grill. It's just like turn of the century. Yeah, okay,
Jerry Springer show. Yeah, Jerry Springer dead seventy nine. Now, we
didn't do the death draft, and I know Kevin was. He's actually taken
notes play now and I had this attack of consciousness going. I don't know
because then I don't know why I had it now, but I feel like
like if we picked local celebrities and stuff, who was on your list?
If you I still want to draft Greg Connor's hair, We draft draft inanimate
objects that way, like Greg Connor's hurt that way, hurting people. Yeah,
but if Bill's liver goes, then I go, no, you're gonna
go. You can get the tramp. I thought it was I thought it
would be bad to be uh by the way. I didn't realize Susie Colbert
as we're watching the NFL draft, Yeah, Danny said, she's sixty years
old. I go, there's no way, because if you asked me and
you said, hey, how old. You really think she has come on?
Be honest, be honest, I would say forty seven, and that's
not I wasn't even trying to shave points off. She's full plus two.
But okay, so he's been around forever. Yeah, I know, so
have I and I think you're older. Shit, I'm not all the ship
ninety three. She debuted ESPN two. She and Keith Olberman. I think
debut ESPN two Jackets. Yeah, no, no, no, for real,
no, for real, because they were like different They wore different attire.
No, no, I'm stating fact, wore a different attire younger.
I got the fucks coming now. Fuck you to the guy who said he
needs to wear a bandana. Two. By the way, I used to
wear bandanas all the time. Did you really Hugan? You know something,
Missus Smith? When I take biology, So I go bandana Jordan's gene Jackets,
I go visit a buddy of mine. Uh huh? Who went to
Sienna? So I was at Fisher drive down to Sianna in Syracuse? Was
it Syracuse Night's Albany? What's the one in Syracuse? Syracuse? No?
Le Moine, Lemoine. Yeah, they're both the same colors, green and
gold. My son got the uh Lemoine Scholarship is junior year quad the Dolphins.
And he said, I don't want to go there. Yeah, we
made him go. Look at it. Goes, I don't want to go
here but Lemoine, which by the way, I think it is a great
school. I don't know why, but it is. He didn't want to.
So my buddy went to Lemoine and I go down there and he had
this picture on, like this bolton board, and I'm looking at it and
I recognize all these other people and there's this guy. He's leaning back.
He's got a red band down on his head, shirts off, and he's
like ripped, he's got abs and everything spring And I go, who's this
douchebag? He goes, yeah, real funny. I go, who is
that? He goes, it's u us Like I worked out all the time
in high school, but I got three day. You get back to that.
I would wear a band, dad, if I could get his body
back. Now you've just let it go. You wear a jean jacket over
there, Dice. Yes, I didn't know dan jackets were that bad.
It's not that they're bad, they weren't they weren't bad. What do you
mean time could tell what generation you're from when you wear one? You know
that? Well fuck off? Okay, and the collar too, it wouldn't
be so bad. But the the co all right, well that's just the
way I just put it on and I went like this, that's it.
Wow, I just woke up like this. So the NFL Draft, we've
had Bryce Young go number one, c J Stroud to go number two.
Yeah, Bryce Young to the Panthers, seem J Stroud to the Texans.
The third pick is uh Houston Houston Houston Again? So did did Arizona trade
down? And the uh? So? I know the Texans had two picks
in the first round. They may have moved up. They're gonna get deep.
They're gonna go defense here. Okay, they're gonna go defense. And
I think that they're going to go, oh gosh, where'd it go?
Because I have my notes, get your quarterback? Um by the time people
hear this, you know, But it is interesting to get inside the mind
yeah, of of people as they do it. But I think they're gonna
go defense here, and I think it's gonna be jailing Carter out of Georgia
jailing Carter out of Georgia. Let's see the Texans number three. I think
it's you think it's who the kid from Alabama? Okay, the linebacker?
All right, we'll see if you're right, Henry Toto. I don't know
the one that was just sitting with. Well, I am so impressed with
the NFL that they did. This is such a party, such a party,
and the pick is sorry, they traded the with the Cardinals to get
the third pick. That's brilliant. Actually, Will Anderson, linebacker out of
Alabama. You nailed it. Wow. Look at Kevin. That's funny because
he's not even in sitting in Chris sims top five linebackers. But he is
a he is an he's the fifth. He's the fifth ranked edge rusher at
Chris Simms list. Chuck out my mock draft at mock draft Kevin. All
right, Kevin, and Kevin has a game. He took some time and
he put together a game where he will give us the draft. We have
to pick the year. I'll give you the top five picks. You give
me the year. A right, and I also I also wanted to So
here's what we write it down. Or no, no, let's pick.
We'll each pick, and then Kevin will give their year, and then we'll
move on to the next one. Is that Okay, I've also got whoever
the Bills took that year as well. All right, if they were in
the top five, let's start here, make it easy. We'll start easy.
Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa, Quinn Williams, Selene Farrell, and Devin
White. They're the top five picks, I believe of the two thousand and
twenty one draft. I can say two nineteen draft. Bill has it twenty
nineteen where the Bills took at Oliver Well. The only reason is that Kyler
Murray Ler. Yeah. It was very aware of that because Kyler were supposed
to go to play professional baseball. Yeah, and I think had a deal
with the Oakland A's. Yes. Yeah, let's go to this one here.
Rams took Sam. I just want to I just want to glow for
a second. Okay, I got a pick, and you got a draft
of this sports guy. I got one, he got one. I got
the first two picks, Sam Bradford and down the consuit of the Lions,
Gerald mccoin of Tampa Bay, Trent Williams to the Redskins at that time,
and Eric burried to the Chiefs. Oh yeah, two thousand and nine.
Boy, I was going way earlier than that. Danny's probably right. I
was gonna say, nineteen ninety seven, twenty ten, where the build spiller
closest to the pin Daniel Bradford. Bradford was supposed to be the next Uh.
He was supposed to be the next Peyton Manning, but he couldn't stay
healthy and I never believe he'd be like Manning. Let's try this one.
Cam Newton to the Panthers, Von Miller to the Broncos, Marcel Darius to
the Bills at number three, AJ Green at number four to the Bengals,
and Patrick Peterson number five to the Cardinals twenty eleven. So I was gonna
say, twenty twelve, twenty eleven, Ye, ship Marcel Darius J J
Watt number eleven in that past, in that draft he was jj Watt.
Okay, Darius end up be killing a bust and he was good too.
He was a late bust, but a bust. So Indianapolis is the fourth
pick in the twenty twenty three draft. Well love us you think so?
Yeah? I like Will Lovis I watched it. You do you do like
Will Levis? I did. I watched a couple of games this patch fall,
and I was free. They will Lovis. But if they take the
kid, the quarterback out of Florida, look out, because that means they're
ready. They're ready. They want the next Josh Allen. And there's a
lot of like Josh Allen, I'll say. And I don't think he's gonna
be the next Josh Allen at all. I'm not saying that at all.
But Richardson is getting a lot of play lately. But he's gonna be a
project. But I think they're gonna take Will Levis. All right, we
got another one. I got more. Yes, let's try Steve Entman into
the Colts nineteen ninety two, Quentin Koreyatt Sean Gilbert, Desmond Howard and Terrell
Buckley. Oh, Desmond Howard, I'm gonna say, nineteen ninety three,
nineteen ninety two, fuck you. It's the only draft. That's how I
know this. It's the only draft without a Hall of Famer, with Hall
of Famer eligible players. Really Desmond him, Yeah, everybody was a bust.
Who the Bills taking twenty seven Dan I believe hold on seeing ninety they
took okay, ninety three, they took Fina ninety, they took Henry Jones,
ninety one, they took J. D. Williams. I think who
did they take a ninety two? Oh gosh, it's gonna drave me nuts.
Now, who did they take a ninety two? We don't know it
was John him. I thought they took ninety three. They put this misery,
put you out of your MisOr they did take him in ninety two?
Okay, all right, what hat is that? Oh? This is this
is just a live lucky I like it? Yeah? Oh is it a
Lucky Maran hat? Yeah? I love you wear it? Will bet your
jean jacket. No, but no, look it's the same. I love
lucky. I love jeans, A big fan of like good. Problem is
they rip on me after a while. Yeah, they wear is your strength
strength? Look at Superman. That's huge hug, you know, but when
he flips out, he turns into the incredible Hulk. All right, go
ahead, you know what that's like, Kevin? Go ahead? Johanna Carter,
Tony Baselli, Steve Air McNair, Michael Westbrook and Carrie Collins nineteen ninety
five. I was the say, nineteen ninety four, shit fucks taking ninety
five? They took Eric Moulds in correct? Oh wait no wait, no,
no, no, no, no, no, who they taken?
U No, it wasn't a rum round five they took. They took Reuben
Brown in ninety four. Jeff Burrus, I don't know who they did Ruben
Brown. Oh you got a run that, buddy. Oh that's right they
did because okay, yeah, right right, Danny, I'm impressed by the
knowledge. I can't believe I blew the Kyler murk. Give me another one.
I'm so glad you one. This is an easy one. All right,
here we go Drew Bledsoe, Rick Meyer, Garrison Hurst, Marvin Jones,
and John Copeland. I'm gonna say nineteen ninety eight. I'm gonna say
nineteen ninety two, already did ninety two. I'm ninety one, brother,
No, ninety three was ninety three? Okay, what the bills taking ninety
three? I'll never get this one, Jeff Burrus. Nope, nineteen ninety
three the Buffalo Bills took um. Oh who was the the guy that wore
the spider stuff? Gerarld Taliot. That was eighty three. Thomas Smith.
Oh here's a cornerback. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, didn't do
much. He started. I mean he was there. It wasn't rememberable,
rememberable, Yeah, he was rememberable. Yeah, get from me another one,
that last one again, Carson Palmer. Yeah, Charles Rogers, Okay,
Andre the Johnson, de Wayne Robinson and Terence Newman. God, some
of these names never even made it. Who's the first one again? Carson
Palmer. He sat for a year from Yeah, he sat for a year
behind John Kittner, his brother was a quarterback for the Bills from nineteen ninety
six. No, no, no, it's two. It was in two
thousand. It was in the two thousands. Three because the Bengals were pretty
bad. It was three. It was three. It took me, by
the way, it took me this two tries, you know. Three they
took they had a they had an extra pick from Atlanta, and they took
Willis mcgahey. Willis mcgaheys back. Look at this, very good, Danny.
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would you do this? You don't say when it's someone else you are sleeping
Part one Man and your Breakfast, Yes, Terry Springer theme for me.
Early two thousands, Terry Springer passed away at the age seventy nine. Pancrea
had a cancer in his Chicago home. What I find his life to be
interesting because it was almost like he fell into this TV thing he really did.
It was politics. He was a lawyer, he was a city councilman.
He became the mayor. He ran, wanted to be governor and lost
in the primary and the Democratic primary, so he never ran again. Wound
up on TV news doing he was an anchor. They allowed him to do
a commentary. The commentary turned into a show and then he became a star
ship a lot of times. That's how that's what happens. I mean,
before the days of streaming, Colin Cowherd he was doing like what Catalada does.
He was doing, you know, he was TV anchoring and stuff,
right, and he gets to a great story. He gets to a trailer
show Blazer's practice. Isaiah Rider had just been arrested again or something. So
he gets out of jail or whatever in all the media surrounding him, and
he didn't go with a microphone. He just standing there watching it. I
gotta get out of this, I gotta do something else. So they offered
him a slot doing radio right, and word got out about him, and
Tony Kornheiser was about to like step down at ESPN. So ESPN sends a
guy from Bristol to fly across the country to listen to him for a week
from a hotel and fell in love with the guy and they go, hey,
you want a job at Bristol to replacing Tony Kornheiser because his style was
so different and now he's a star, and he wasn't like intending to like
go to ESPN. It just kind of happened because he was just going on
try so hard. Yeah, and he just truly you know, follow your
gut and you and don't listen to the outside noise. Yeah all that shit.
You end up with a podcast and jack No. I think that's how
things work. I think that a lot of times. We try, we
effort, we grind. I gotta grind, to guy, I gotta grind
to get a good dunk. No, you don't grind, baby, I
mean you do. Yeah, you got to work. You have to work,
and you can't. But if you go with that mentality, nobody wants
to deal with you. You know. That's what. Do you tell people
to fuck off? And that's not good. No, you don't want to.
They get all upset. They bring it up about every other right on
the podcast. They don't off to fuck off today. I'm sure the Chinese
love it. I do love it. No, you don't, and you
shouldn't, and I understand. So. Kevin asked a question as we started
the podcast, because tonight's the hundredth episode, I thought things would I would
do a little more, and I apologize that I didn't to both of you
guys, only because my day just went. We were expecting strippers. We
could have the mirror, we could pull the mirror to the Guinness mirror,
down off the wall. Cocaine. Yeah, um, but what did you
guys think? You asked me, Did I expect it to be this after
one hundred episodes? What did what did you think? Did you have any
idea? I mean, you were just I knew this was gonna work because
I knew the break room was gonna work. Still working. I knew this
was gonna work from day one. I had no doubts about this. Ever.
Yeah, well I was We're still a working what like, I was
actually surprised. I was surprised as you asked me to be part of it.
And once you did and we get that first show, I'm like,
this is gonna work. Yeah, this is gonna work. I'm just happy
I got a new brother. But what did you think You're welcome? I
knew it was gonna work. I mean I told you, Kevin, I've
told you from years that we've been talking about doing stuff like this, and
you wanted to do this and this, and I'm like, let's do it.
It's funny. I never heard about you. All the stories Billy told
you were never in them over at CMF. So I just well, I
used to bring in crunch a bunch that made me fart a lot. Okay.
That well, Kevin was with me for a brief period and then wind
up over with Carlson McKenzie and stuff. So he I mean, oh,
okay, yeah, so, and there was a whole time where I went
on and did other things. He wasn't the guy who went to the gay
bar to ask, Okay, I want to get fired over that. I
will tell you the bit go ahead. I'm not proud of this, but
hello, it is kind of clever. So I used to They wanted me
to do a game around five o'clock, and they wanted to give stuff way,
and so we would I forget what it was called over under, so
we would come up with something, was it over or under? So over
under? How much a blowjob would cost it a gay bar, not the
actual thing, but the chef the drink shot. So sending him out,
he went to a gay bar, told them what we'd never were doing.
They were all excited. You can hear me on in the background, he's
on the phone. We do that. The competition contacted every advertiser around that
break, and I wound up getting suspended and him Ramine was taken off my
show. Is it the competition that I was working for at the time,
Yes, yes, And I went with zero original ideas well we can.
I mean, look, man, the bottom line is, you know,
it's ratings and revenue. When it comes to radio, it's ratings and revenue.
And I understand that now more than I did ever before. And uh,
it was the guy's name starting with an I and ending with man.
I have no idea, Okay, I don't. I could have been it
could have been him, that's ow it. Uh. There was a lot
of things that came their way. They had these two guys on the radio.
Uh, they were piped in from San Francisco. Their names were Kramer
and Twitch. And I was newly married. I had a kid jogging stroller,
and I think one day I wore a sweater vest jacket. I got
just as much shit as I am getting the Jeane jacket, which I'll never
stop where it. I'll be nine mirandimal doesn't work? Does the word sweater
vests? Randomal supposed to wear T shirts? We got wet spray painted on
the back four Randomal fuck off? Maybe it T shirt? So I,
um, these guys like we're going to at me hard. I mean,
they're hammering me. And it was Eman feeding them all up. But I
had no idea. So I don't know anything about it. But I'm getting
calls and shit, and then one day the phone rings. I have told
this story before. There was an internal phone that you would get, like
in her office calls or if someone was on the business line, they could
be patched through to the studio and they're beat up like a flashlight, so
you knew it was like an important call. Well no, no, that
was a hotline. This was just a hand phone. So if it rang,
you would pick it up. And usually it's a PD going hey man,
or you got an extra pair of stones, take a STI give away
today whatever. So uh, I answer it and it's Cramer and Twitch and
then recording me. And I said, you can't record me, but you
can call me at this number where I can record you two and we'll play
it back. And they recorded me and just like I so they should find
and they called back on the other number and I answered and they were going
on about yeah, you when you're dragging jogging stroller that. I go,
why because I had a kid, that's a bad thing. I go,
oh, yeah, you wear your sweater vest? Did I go? I
do what I go? You guys are gonna get fired because you told people
to open their doors in San Francisco when bicyclists are going by opening Yeah,
they didn't get fired for that. I told them that. So, uh,
these guys, so that was their thing, and then I, um,
but it was all Iman who fed them all that shit. Yeah,
they yeah, they would call them and they I mean they said, didn't
they didn't. Didn't you tell them, like, you're probably don't you probably
have the balls to play this back in But I do. I do,
And I played the whole thing and then other people the next day heard it
and it was completely edited. It was completely edited. It was edited to
make me look bad. And I get it. I understand what it.
I get it. But my thing was, since I'm not attacking, here's
my defensive move. My defensive move would be, I'll record it. You
can't air this, and if you do, we have a lawsuit. But
you can call me on this line where I can record you as well,
and then I'll record it and play it back. And then and I did.
And then the next day people were like, oh my god, they
did it, and I was like, yeah, I knew they would.
Yeah, but I that was fine and it never worked. You know,
here's they are evolving door of night shocks. Well, but here were piped
in by the way they weren't live. They were never lived. But here's
the problem with for any human being. You will start to focus on just
that I'm under attack. It's two guys who don't know you. I'm twenty
eight years old. At the time, I'm twenty eight, I have a
new baby at home, I'm newly married. I'm all right. My job
is being threatened a lot at the time, right because I was getting suspended.
I got suspended over that bit. I guess spending this moment like everything's
fucking mot Kevin's taken away from me, remains taken away from me. Everybody.
So at the time, they took Kevin away from you, Ah yeah,
yeah, I won't say it, but that was what. I don't
know if you knew that, but they did. They took me away from
me. I thought they said that he been influence. That's what they said.
I'm not kidding. And we did all kinds of ship. But anyway,
back to so, what I would say to anybody is the world is
always going to come at you. That's where you've got to find your own
center. You can't depend on somebody else to be your guiding light, your
happiness, you or anything. Now harder harder to do. But that's the
that's the that's the practice, that's what you gotta do. So in that
time, when they're everybody's coming at you, it's very easy to feel like
I'm under attack. I got these guys, you know, and then everybody
else in your world going, oh my god, they said that, like
my wife would They've talked about my wife at the time, and she was
very upset, and I would hear about that when I got home, and
not not relentlessly, but enough to let you know, like it could be
your wife. If you really care, I could say one sentence to you
about how she's feeling, and it would God, how do I fix that?
Right? If? If if you give a shit, if you give
a shit every day, you know? And after twenty years, I guess
I didn't. I'm kidding, but no, I still do because I I
take phone calls. I don't want I don't want chaos and I don't want
pain for people. Uh. And I remember her saying, it really bugs
me that those guys. I wish there was something that you could do to
stop that, and or or that could be done. I don't even know
that the emphasis is put on me so is that when they discover the UNI
bomber. So I say, yeah, you know, so you can focus
on these two guys and make that your whole world, or realize it's just
two guys making some noise. Let's get over here where the importance shit is.
Let's play with our kids. Let's make sure our wife's okay, job,
let's right, Let's let's do a great entertaining, Let's have fun.
Let's let's let our fun energy cut through and make everything okay and don't worry
about that. But it's easier said than done, because these guys, you
feel like you're under attack. Everybody, everybody in my world. Well,
think about this and try to really really think about this. The next time
you in your head say everybody, try to list everybody? Right, That's
all. And I only say that because I think it gives you a little
bit of perspective of, oh, maybe this is silly, right, because
if you can you name ten friends? Can you name ten friends that you
could pick up the phone and just call some people? Can? Sure?
I like to think I can, but at any but ten friends? Could
you do that? And if that's everybody, it's ten people, it's not
a lot no, right, it's not a thousand, it's not even a
hundred. So try to keep that stuff in perspective. And it just makes
life a little easier, It really does. And a little yeah, but
and and also a little more realistic because a lot of times when you get
away from something, Oh God, why did I waste all my energy being
a ship head or getting upset or doing whatever. You gave somebody that power,
You gave them that power. Exactly. Really it's a don't keep the
power, take the power back? See you two assholes really didn't. Actually,
that'd be a great mystery, guess. I've always believed in your billy.
In fact, when you and I no longer worked, you like that
freaking moranim's gonna go on and change the world and let me behind. I
didn't. I didn't go out and chase the world. Now, I fail.
I failed at the drive a little bit. He did all your program
director FAILM Well, they got me. I couldn't program a Wendy's drive through.
He was a color by number program director. And I'll say that to
his face. Dave lefroyd, Oh my god, Damny, don't turn into
me naming people on this dude, someone taking these vitamins up and a little
bit more angry. Jacket damn. Okay, hey, you know what just
to jacket D, Dave le Froyd told people I was a winer, which
is complete bullshit. And you know you and I worked. Yeah, I
didn't think you were. Never never did. I did not think you were
a little bit of a CNX Tuesday. By the way, okay, good
Never. I wanted to find that audio of the the ESPN reporter who called
another woman a woman Marley Marley Reverse was a Yankee reporter. She got fired,
but she referred to an ESPN journalist other woman as the next Tuesday and
then went wow, and she said it louder and I guess Aaron Judge was
in the room and she said this, And then I'll go if I'm Aaron
Judge, I'm like, fuck, yeah, yeah, come on, get
your popcord out, let's go. Because if somebody's six a microphone in Aaron
Judge's face, he goes, what did you think of that? If he
says I couldn't believe the language, he's a fucking liar. Yeah, he
was like, yes, my eyes, God, plush, Jerry. It's
like a lot of Yankee fans were happy she got canned. I don't know.
I don't know much about her either, because, to be honest with
the baseball happened so fast, like there's a game. There's always a game.
So like I don't have time to read what happened last night when I
want if I watched it or two I'm working, you know, so whatever,
Oh there you are wanning again. Whatever. I'm not a warner.
I'm not calling me a winner that Dave Lefroy called you a winner. Yeah,
okay, so oh you're all We're gonna tell it, Dave Lefroy st
Color by Number program director. Go ahead, so one time has gone.
I everybody at WHAM hated him, by the way, Well, like I
don't know what from my day I hear to talk about hate on anybody.
I will just say that, UM don't need him. I was kind of
done with where we were and for several reasons. And uh, I do
feel like I abandoned ship when I probably shouldn't have. And I went over
to my heart and in the end, I loved my time there, absolutely
loved it. I you know what, I did want to bring this up
tonight, Um, I think you were happier there than you were when we
worked together at Intercom. Uh. At least it seemed like I felt like
a professional perspective, I had more freedom after the drive, I felt like
I had more freedom to do things. So they wound up, so Dave,
I wound up. When I first went over, there was a lot
of talk I'm gonna just say this story because this is fun. Oh yeah,
there's nothing bad, but it will it will. I think that there
are people I'm gonna mention in this story who have no idea that they were
even going to be mentioned. We're even talked about. Um. I was
coming over because there was a guy who I wanted to work for and he
got elevated and they brought another guy back, and I wanted I thought,
I like, I like that guy too, Bob Morgan. I'll work for
Bob. And uh so I come over and there was talk about who do
they put me with? And looking back, I will say, uh,
Kevin mcgret is a really, really bright guy. But he's not just a
general manager and a sales manager kind of guy, but he's also got a
really good programming brain. He really does does. And Kevin said why don't
we just make it like Bill and Friends or Bill's neighborhood. So if mayor
Pete Kennedy pops in, he can talk to him. And if you know,
all of a sudden, John Di Tulio stopped by to talk sports,
Bob Lonsbury comes in, and Brother Wes or somebody from Weez's show, and
you do that, and you have kind of these rotating things. And I
should have gone with that model. And they kept saying no, no,
no, and they had somebody they wanted to give me, and I was
like, ah. And then there was talk of well do we go get
Jennifer Johnson from Channel thirteen and have her do it with Bill, which they
had tried before with somebody else, right, I don't know, okay,
I have no idea. So there was all this different talk, and I
thought, all right, So I come over and I was concerned about the
person they were putting me with. And one day we're doing the show and
this person was very by the book, with somebody who really a task master.
You gave this person something to do and they did it, and they
did it fairly well competent. What they weren't really great at was being a
personality. They were good at introducing records and being that voice in between records,
which in and of itself is a talent, but it's not like having
having a conversation. Yeah. So at one point I ask a question and
the person who goes, I'm sorry, I didn't hear one word you said.
I was updating the website, and I marched upstairs. I go,
you got you got it? Said this on the air. Yeah, I
go, you gotta get this person off because I can't. I need you
to be here and sold me once I'm never going to be the person who
dedicates my life to being a morning show. I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to give you on and I and I got it.
I knew what they were saying. It came out harsher, but I knew
what they were saying, and I got it. And sometimes if you're gonna
make it and try to start something new, you got to put all your
energy in there. So I knew this wasn't gonna work well. And then,
uh I wind up with that person and the ratings kind of go up
and down and around, and I uh so I wind up in Dave's office
and there were two things that went on that really really fucking soured me,
like like I would have. I was so close to just going fuck this.
There are two things. The first was I went up in his office
and he starts talking about the ratings and I go, what you're saying It
makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And then he and he goes excuse me,
and I go, Dave, I can't sit here and listen to this anymore.
It makes absolutely no fucking sense. And he's like oh, And I
go, well, you're you're you're taking two different things and you're trying to
combine them together. Either one goes up, one goes down. It's in
verse. It's easy to track. There's patterns. You got to look for.
The patterns Dave I said in the pattern has been that the time spent
listening is going up, but our overall number of people is going down.
That's not true. I go, well, it is here, here,
here, here, and then he just winds up bellowing like yelling at me,
and I go, okay, I'm done, and I got up and
I walked out and he's still screaming at me as I walked down all and
I thought, you got a really, really dumb guy here. When it
comes to ratings, you have a dumb human being. I mean, like,
it couldn't have been simpler. I just want this is dumb. I
don't. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna waste my time. I'm not
gonna. I'm not gonna go around in circles. I'm not gonna tell you
anything. I can see it. I know what it is. I don't.
I'm out. And shortly after that he was let go. They brought
in somebody else. That person was a very music person. I didn't it
was okay, and I went out to LA and auditioned out there, and
they thought I was going to get the job. And then when the money
came through, I said no, I can't do it for that. And
then they're like, well that, what do we do? And so they
put me on because they had moved Elvis to rant over to the drive and
they put me on with John and that was fantastic. It turned out great.
But that was another one where they were putting you on. They weren't
really sure. They had Brotherwise in the morning, Kimberly and back in the
afternoon and music in the middle of the day and the middle of the day
numbers just weren't They were okay, there's nothing against anybody that was doing it,
just wasn't doing great. It was like being two different stations. So
they decided, well, let's try go and talk. And so now you're
going into the hole they're putting you in, basically the ratings hole where there's
not talk, and now you got to you gotta come through and lift it
up. And I remember one time like they didn't even really and this And
I don't fault anybody, because I really loved the people that I was working
with at the time and the program director and stuff. But I remember them
walking me around to the board and go okay, and you're gonna sit here.
They never said you have to run the board, You've got to do
it. There was none of that. So it was really weird. Oh
ton of that shit. But I also knew that that person had a lot
of pressure. I knew where we were on the ball field. As I
always say, you gotta know where you are in the ball field of life.
I knew where we were, and I went, Okay, I'll make
this work. And I do remember that I would make some jokes and things
that I was told later on by management. I was pulled in and go,
hey, you make John uncomfortable when you say these things. And I
said, why does he say anything to me? And they go, well,
he's well buddy. So I went okay. Now again, I never
said anything to John because I thought, well, I don't want to upset
the guy if he's uncomfortable. And then we would have meetings sometimes you go,
oh, I don't really go for that kind of stuff. But he
would dance around it a little bit. So I went okay, and I
just figured how am I going to make this work? And how do I
make it work with the people I'm around? And I loved working with John,
but uh yeah, he never He didn't. It doesn't really like confrontations,
stuff like real confront real talk, real like, hey, let's get
down to the nitty GRIDDI that ain't him. But he did say something to
management and they did come to me, and so I just changed. That's
just the way that. There was one time where like I actually he and
I used to go out to lunch with Bill Pucko and I was working with
you. I worked with child John's first producer at HTK. That's Brad Davies
left, and so we do these what they call red ar black lunch.
Right. Arblock would famously every Wednesday have lunch with media members and other things
in a Chinese restaurant. He'd paid for it. Yeah, and so we
had our our ar black lunch. Well, when I started working with you,
the guy's over a clear channel. Now my heart didn't like it,
they told John. So John didn't want to tell me this, they said,
so they had he had Pucko do it. So John got up to
go to the bathroom, and Pucko is telling me, Hey, we still
want you to come, but your lunch is no longer going to be free,
but we want to help pay for I go. You know what,
I'll make it easier for everybody. I just won't come to lunch anymore.
Well, it's it's it's too bad. He just doesn't like confrontation. And
I can understand and respect that completely. And uh, that's just everybody's different,
right and either Yeah, but eventually in life you're gonna have that,
you are he kind of answer the bell, you do. I'm not ripping
on him, No, I'll just say it. Yeah, And I think
at certain points he does, but I think that overall one things. If
it's a sticky situation like Debbie. I'm just saying, if it's a sticky
situation or an uncomfortable situation, there would be a yeah, there'll be a
detour there. And he's a lovable guy. I'm run fuck head first right
into that wall and then come out on the other side and everything will be
fine. You and Brad Davies like embrace it, Like I'll do it.
I'll run through that wall. Well only because like, yeah, and you
know here we are one hundredth episode. Yeah this yeah, yeah, Okay,
fine, I'll do it. I will figure it out. I will
find a way. Not want to say this is the other thing I want
to do it. Tucker Carlson made his first statement since he was lad,
since he left. The one thing that stood out to me is he never
mentioned Fox. No, no, I don't think he has any animosity towards
Fox whatsoever. I think he wanted to do his own thing. I think
he wants to move forward. I think he likes a lot of the people
there. I wouldn't be surprised if they liked him. I don't never really
watch the show, but from what I understand he seems to be outside of
opinion where may most people disagree or or seem to be polarized by him.
He seems to be a pretty nice human being. I've never heard anything bad
about him off error. I don't know. He came from money too,
like his mother's like the heiress of like I think the Tyson Chicken family or
something like that. I don't know. I don't either, so um,
but I just thought that's the way you should be. And it's the same
thing with I heard a lot of people have opinions as to what why am
I not there? What happened all this stuff? I heard a whole slow
of stuff today. O Jesus Christ, did I have? No, we
don't and I will not. But I mean I heard, I heard an
I heard a ton of stuff about I hear this is gonna happen, and
I go, I don't know, I don't know. I'm so focused here
because that's not my world, and you know, it just becomes noise and
you want to keep living over there. And a lot of people, right,
I feel like I should be all around about what are they doing about?
I have? And I don't mean this in a mean way. I
can't close. Well, it's yeah, and I've got a family and kids
and college payments and you know, matrimonials. Oh yeah, all kinds of
shit I gotta do and that and focusing over there doesn't help me get it
done. So in my head that's where I don't mean to be cold or
sound cold. I like, I genuinely really like I loved John do Tullio,
like he was a brother. I understand who that human being is.
When I say things like he doesn't like confrontation, I'm not saying that to
be mean. That is an actual fact. And I could go, I
could go into more detail, but I don't need to. I just that's
my brother, and I know I know him, right. I know the
people the people you love, but I know ye. But outside of that
and other than that, I have nothing bad. There isn't no matter what
anybody says, there's not one person over there, not not one that I
have any animosity towards none whatsoever. I'm very focused here. And as you
guys have said to me and Kevin, did you think this would be as
successful after a hundred episodes? My answer back is I don't think I am.
But you know what thanks to you guys and the belief, your belief
me and my belief in it. I guess it is, and all you
guys listening to so I watch it. So I thank you for that.
Sincerely, I thank you for the opportunity. Oh because I still because when
I got shown the door, when I got shown the door, like this
is it? This is this is my last chance talking into a microphone.
Nope, Nope, after all the Jane Jackie Jones, that's Sunday. He
hasn't planned it yet. All right, it's good, Aunt, Stephanie Doutt.
Yeah, she goes. I gotta talk about I gotta talk about Pearl
Jam what they did. Okay, hold of the ticket man, the guys
who fought Ticketmaster. This will be interesting, Yes, for Kevin Muir,
who helped me name the show. For Dan Parrillo, who came out dusting
himself off and said, all right, you asked all the same. I'm
Bill Moran. We'll see him Monday,