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Streaming live. I mean, iHeartRadio. Whap. This is I on the

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Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez
on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey,

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welcome back, joining the ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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he's Jake. Now we have Kevin
with breaking news. This is I

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on the Ball Breaking News on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. All right, guys,

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we have had a ton of Arizona
roster movement over the last twenty four

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or so hours. We're gonna start
outside the program. We're gonna get to

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all the Arizona centric stuff later.
But I thought i'd be remiss to not

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mention that Keona will Height has committed
to Nebraska over Ucla. Okay, he

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said that he had UCLAs his number
one option because of everything that comes along

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with going to UCLA, the beaches, the parties, the people, all

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of that stuff. And then he
said that he actually chose Nebraska because they

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are focused and he wants to be
focused as well on making it's as opposed

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to others who aren't focused. But
he was saying, he was saying that

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going to UCLA there's a lot more
distractions and that the players may be there

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for different reasons beyond football. What's
his point. It's funny to be help

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people. So they don't have any
parties in Nebraska. They don't have the

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beaches, but they have other things. Right. It's like people who go

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to schools. I went to the
NMSU because I wanted to go to MSU

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there in state. I probably would
have got the same kind of education somewhere

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else had I gone somewhere. It's
where you You don't have to explain where

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you go. Just go go,
just go. People take the party everywhere.

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You're telling me that Nebraska is boring. You don't got to bring sand

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to the beach. That's it right
there. That's a T shirt right there.

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Uh So, we do have some
big news for the Arizona running back

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room. Yes so, Jacory or
Bill crossky Merrit. The Arizona football program

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tweeted in their announcement that his name
was Bill all his social media names himself

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as jor. Uh the Bill would
be so much easier for us. I'm

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sure I'm gonna call him to Cory
or Bill Crossky Merritt from New Mexico.

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He has come over alongside of quality. Uh Conley from s J s u

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who played under Alonso Carter and coach
Brennan. But they have a combined fifty

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career touchdowns and five thousand career receiving
yards. So Arizona's building a lot of

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experience in that rushing room, which
was pretty inexperienced just a week ago.

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Well well, and it's a very
important part of what's missing after last year

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with with Mike Wiler leaving, well
he's been in his eligibilities over with with

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Jonah Coleman uh moving on to Washington
with DJ Williams, you know, out

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of eligibility. So that that's three
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So now you got you know,
you likely to see more speedy loop this

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year. And then with those two
guys you need, they need two or

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three guys, so it looks like
they wouldn't got some guys that looked look

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like they can play, especially when
you need guys that can maybe come out

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of the slot and be in the
passing game as well. Yeah, it

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was funny because you know, you
hear comments, look great, you know

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they're Arizona. They got a guy
from New Mexico and a guy from San

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Jose. Stay, how good can
they be. And then I heard somebody

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say, well, okay, let's
see where was Jacob Cowing before he came

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here? It was a justin.
Yeah, he was a UTEP and where

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was who's the other one? He
brought up the oh guy, I saw

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it too, We just saw it. Uh, I forgot, I got

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well, he was just right there. Yeah, you know what one another

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guy that came from you know again, a group of five school and they

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were both pretty damn good. It's
interesting how people once once players get to

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the NFL and and their past is
kind of you're only watching their future in

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the present. You know. It's
funny how people think, oh, well,

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everyone's just from Alabama or Georgia.
Well, the kid Lopez, kid

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that we talked to, where do
you come from your mex school state?

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Right right? And he came here
and he's in the NFL. There's talent.

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There's talent everywhere and school esus.
You are coaches from Jose here.

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It is Tanner McLaughlin who is at
Utah State. Those guys are gonna be

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in the NFL next year. So
just relax. These guys look like those

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guys who bitch like this, don't
They don't know how you gotta find something.

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And you know these guys, you
know especially you know these guys.

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No, I don't personally know them, don't know. But my friends aren't

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like this. You're friends of your
friends. No, you know, No,

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In fact, my friends are going
to say, holy hell, look

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at all those yards that they they're
they're overly optimistic, Okay, they're They're

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on the other, complete other end
of the spectrum of somebody who's complaining about

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these guys. They understand that everyone
starts somewhere in order to get where they're

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And you know what, you know, you go to New Mexico for a

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couple of years, all of a
sudden you might be really damn good.

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And and and you know, I
said, okay, I saw a thing

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today. The most player by college
in the Super Bowl. Okay, and

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of course George is up there.
You know who's got three players in the

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Super Bowl? Who Rutgers? Well, Rutgers has three players in the damn

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Super Bowl. The sucked apparently.
I mean, look, guys can be

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good wherever they are. Sure.
No, come on, you watch the

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NBA. Now, how many of
those players in the NBA do you even

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recognize their names? Yeah? And
you see a guy where do you see

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a guy who can who's who's got
a two and a half inch vertical and

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he's about three hundred pounds and he
lumbers up and down the floor. But

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he's seven foot two and he's in
the NBA exactly, and he trains horses

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and he lives in Serbia. So
Arizona has also beefed up their trenches on

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each side. Ryan Stewart is transferring
over from San Jose State. He was

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a part of their offensive line.
He had a season ending injury last year.

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He should be healthy this season.
Trey Smith has also transferred from San

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Jose State. He had a career
high sixty six tackles, including nine and

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a half tackles for loss in six
and a half sacks last season. Uh

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and he was also named a first
team All Mountain West selection. They've brought

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in a couple of Juco products from
San Mateo Community College, John Oprice a

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dB and Cyrus Durham a D lineman
UH to go with Trey Smith as well.

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Yeah, so for all of you
who are still pissed off at Jedfish

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for running a bunch of Arizona guys
up to Washington. Go talk to somebody

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from San Jose State right now and
see what they think about Arizona. Sure,

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no, I know, come on, the world's not for fair.

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It's never fair. Yeah, deal
with Look, you know it's every man

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for himself. Man, go get
some players and try and win some games.

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Yeah, And it's it's just the
the honestly, it's it's a prime

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example for how nowadays in college sports, one coaching, one coaching change can

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cause an entire country short worth of
dominoes. Right, speaking of, uh

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some some dominoes here, the last
last bit of transfer news I had have

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is Kevin Darton, a d lineman
from Syracuse, has transferred over to Ara

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Aroona. And that's all the Arizona
football news I had. Arizona men's basketball

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is a five point favorite against Utah
on the road tomorrow night, and they

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are favored by ESPN's statistical analysis stuff
by their favorite to win the game seventy

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three percent of the time. So
that sounds that five points sounds like a

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lot. I say, as I
said off here, I'm not even sure

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that Arizona should be favored in that
game. I think I think I'll I

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think i'll be laying the points of
Arizona the mor I think so. I

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think because I think if they win
this game, they win it by like

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they were covering. They were covering
almost one hundred percent of the time in

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the first couple of months. They're
not covering anymore. Yeah, they started

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the season undefeated against the spread for
like the first like six games, seven

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games. Yeah, something. I
do have some golf news for you.

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All right, let's take the golf
news. Tiger Woods is supposed to make

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his twenty twenty four debut at the
Genesis Invitation will come up, all right,

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Yeah, and I know that people
have been waiting to see him come

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back. I don't know if you
have any thoughts on Tiger, you know

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what, I just I love watching
him play, even even if he plays

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terribly. He moves the needle for
me, always has I know that,

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you know, with all the things
that you know, personal stuff that he

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went through. And there's some people
who hate hate you just if you're winning,

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you know, and you win all
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do that with some teams, right, you know. I hated I hated

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the Cowboys when they were winning every
year. I hated the Steelers when they

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were winning every year. So I
was a hater and stuff like that.

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But I've always been a big fan
of Tiger, and you know, I'd

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love to see him win another major
or two. I was across my TikTok

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feed that was a really funny cliff
that came up where he was with some

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guys. I don't know who these
guys were. When he's offing with some

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guys and they were going to have
a long drive guy. A guy wanted

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to bet Tiger your long drive contest
against Tiger. And so the guy comes

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up and Tiger apparently Tiger be giving
him a lesson and stuff like that.

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So he hits the ski crushes one, right. The dude crushes one,

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and Tiger said, okay, and
he gets on his knees and he hits

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and he now drives the guy.
That's unbelievable, and that was crack the

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guys. That was crap. That
was I can't believe you did that that.

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It's like, that's Tiger Woods,
That's who he is. And it's

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funny because as great as Tiger is, you could have picked us about any

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professional golfer, and maybe not from
the knees, but they would have been

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able to just wipe out anybody who
thought, because it reminds me of the

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video they had of Brian Scalabrini,
the old Celtic. Some guy he was

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out a y or an la fitness
or when some guy goes hey, I

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bet I can beat you one on
one. You rode the bench or you

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did this, and he was just, you know, talking garbage, and

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Brian goes out there beats him pretty
much, one hand behind his humbles him.

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You don't realize how good these guys
are, Guys who complain on the

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dumb Internet. Listen, all you
have to do is go out there,

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go out on the court and try
and hear the three pointer. Okay,

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three in a row, right,
try just try to heal one. Okay,

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just try to make one, and
then watch somebody like you don't even

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have to watch, somebody like Caleb
Williams or or I mean calebs Kylin Kylin

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Boswell or or Caleb Love or one
of those guys. Just make one after

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another after another. Go watch Helena
Poyo shoot three pointers. Go watch Caitlyn

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Gilbert shoot them three pointers, and
just how easy it is for them.

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And then go out there and try
and just just make one. Let's see

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if you can make one in your
first five tries, you know, just

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walking onto the floor and don't even
try to break out the dribble moves,

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right, don't try to go don't
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elite athletes, especially even at the
college stuff. They're damn good what they

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do because they play every single hours
of their life. Right. But yeah,

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speaking of people that were hated just
for being good at what they do.

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Next, Saban is going to go
ahead and join game Day as one

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of their analysts alongside of everybody else. I didn't see that they're gonna make

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any changes to the to the table. No, but this is what I

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tell you, kids, to your
jobs are very limited. You know why

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athletes and coaches are taking over your
job. They just are. And they're

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not getting paid you know, twenty
five thousand dollars a year. Yeah,

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he's getting paid million bucks to do
this, right. Look at Tom Brady,

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what's he making. He's gonna make
three hundred million dollars like ten years,

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yeah, something like that. And
they haven't even seen him do it

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yet. And they have, they
have Greg Olsen, who's actually incredible.

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They're gonna bump him, this guy
who's never done it before. I'd be

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a little pissed. You know.
He was on Dan Patrick and he asked

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him and he asked him specifically that
Greg and he basically say said, look,

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I'm competitive. He said, I
want that job. Of course I

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aspired to that job. I get
it, I get who Tom Brady is,

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and I understand all of that.
But you know, I feel like

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I've earned that job and I want
that job, and I'm gonna keep trying

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to get that job. Right,
And I though that was really interesting.

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But he also called the game of
his life the last game of the season,

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right right, and it was very
good. Yeah, it was very

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good. So no, I I
can see him. But you know again,

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guy was in in the NFL Competitor
and he's you know, he's getting

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you know, he's getting pushed to
the second string and he's like, no,

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I I feel out like I deserve
to be here. So we do

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have Eddie Nuniaz coming up in the
next In the next we're gonna talk to

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him about everything going on, basketball, basketball and everything going on. Uh

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Rick Patino came out in the last
day or two. I don't know if

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you guys heard his theory college basketball
going forward. But he said we should

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get all the Power five conferences together, the Big East Conference and have a

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salary cap for college basketball. Now
he didn't really outline it too deep or

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too detailed, But I don't know
if you had any trying and get that

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past the courts. Yeah, right, that's true because it had nothing to

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do with nil. He said,
right, No, try and get try

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and get that past the course,
like say, okay, we're going to

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have a salary cap for everybody who
works at McDonald's. No, I mean,

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you know or you know if okay, if you're if you're in the

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burger industry, you can only make
X amount of money. No. The

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only reason that the NFL can have
a salary cap, and then because they've

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got an antitrust exemption that say they're
exempt from, you know, all of

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those laws unless you get something like
that for college athletics, which maybe they

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can, I don't know, But
you can't have a salary cap. You

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can't you can't limit how much money
somebody gets to make the in a situation

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like that, if you don't have
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a legal analyst or anything, but
even I know that much. That's the

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problem is that how any limit you
want to put on these guys and how

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much they earned. That's the that's
the root issue in the courts with all

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these things going on with with with
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how much you can make and how
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and that's like you said, that's
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mention whether or not the cap would
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include on il because that was if
it's the schools paying, because the Lakers

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cannot go tell Lebron, hey,
you can only get paid five hundred thousand

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dollars for your Draftking sponsorship, because
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We're at the cap, right,
so who is right? You can you

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know, Caleb Love from Yo,
you can't go do that sponsorship because if

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you know, if you're a you
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you can't go to nor FAFIEDA and
say no, you can only bring in

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five hundred thousand dollars in nil money. That's all you get. You can't

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make any more than that. I
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now, right, but they don't
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yeah, I don't know how again, which again we'll get to the gets

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the question, how the hell then
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going to turn into if it does? Right, it's totally different than what

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we know? Well, yeah it
already is. Yeah, yeah, all

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right, next break, we're gonna
come up Eddie noon. You has the

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athletic director at New Mexico when we're
not and where we didn't invite him to

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ask him if he's getting the Arizona
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c DOUAA Division one man's basketball committee, So we'll ask him what does that

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mean? What are you doing?
What do you do? What do you

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do? Yeah? All right,
so stick around and we'll have some fun,

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This is I on the Park on
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to ONN on the Ball Hero Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

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He's Jacob Zoas Now on the phone. We have Edy Noon Years the New

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Mexico Lobos A d Eddie. How
you doing. I'm doing great, Thank

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you for having me. Steve.
Sure, great to have you on the

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line. We're talking about Yeah,
we want your your chair of the Division

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one Men's Basketball Oversight Committee. So
I went to their website. I read

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the couple of paragraphs on what it
does, and I'm still not really sure

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what it does. So first for
Steve and mind fourth grade education, tell

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us exactly what the Oversight Committee is
responsible for. So the Men's Basketball Overside

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Committee is basically responsible for everything that
deals with college basketball. So the Selection

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Committee, we work with the Selection
Committee, and when it comes to,

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of course, the fund the NCAA
tournament. But when you're talking about everything,

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every aspect advancing the game of college
basketball. The Oversight Committee basically handles

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everything everything that you would about two
years ago to three years ago, they

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really gave a little bit more Leou'd
say, autonomy to to the committees to

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make better decisions and more informative decisions
for the sport of basketball. So we're

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there, we're trying to we're trying
to advance it. We're trying to do

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what we can to make the game
of basketball better, especially now even more

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with all the challenges and everything else
that we're all facing in college sports.

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It's imperative that we do our part
as a d's coaches and everybody it's involved

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to try to help the game.
Does the committee who selects the selection committee,

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do they go to you to get
teams approved as well or to background

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or does that they do so?
So they're there, I guess the best

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way to put it is the flush. First of all, what they do

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the selection committee is unbelievable work.
They're they're working year round watching games,

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uh preparing for the selection. But
more than anything else, what they what

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we do is, you know,
we work with them in regards to what

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how the setups are, everything else
that everything that goes along with it.

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But as far as selecting and how
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that is all them and they do
an unbelievable job. Yeah, okay,

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So one of the issues that's come
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For instance. Let me ask you
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would this be one of the issues
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Expand in the tournament? You know, at sixty eight teams, they you

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know, you've got people saying anything
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ninety six teams or whatever. What
role would the Oversight Committee have in that?

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A very pivotal role. We would
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understand what their perspective because they're in
the grind every day when it comes to

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the basketball tournament. But we work
with them in respect to ultimately, if

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this is a decision we're going to
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basketball, it's going to have to
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then ultimately take it to the Division
one Council, which I have the ability

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to sit as well on the Division
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We are very instrumental in having to
make that decision. That conversation always

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arises, especially during this time of
year. So it won't be any surprise

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if once we have this conversation again, as in the next month or two,

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and how we continue to look at
if it, if it means bettering

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the game of basketball, we have
we have to continue to have that conversation.

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Well, let me ask you what
you played college basketball? You played

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at Florida for Billy Donovan. You
mentioned affair, You also coached, uh,

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you know, at the Division one
level. Is there anything wrong with

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college basketball right now? Is there
anything wrong with the tournament that needs fixing?

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And I know you talk about advancing
and keeping it on on things,

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but to me, as a fan
who sits here, loves the game,

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talks about the game, loves the
tournament, I don't see anything wrong with

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college basketball right now. No,
you know, it's it's being I think

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the one thing COVID and all everything
that we've gone through over the last several

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years has given us an opportunity to
is to take a step back and really

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make sure that we're evolving and doing
the things that we need to do to

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make sure the game continues to advance
it and it is as special as that

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always been. I'm a traditionalist.
I love the tournament. We all,

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I think many that that are in
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Madness, what it does for both
mention women's basketball. The big thing for

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us is is not just that it's
sustainable, but also are we doing everything

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we can to continue to be innovative, to be to make it better and

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if it means adding some teams down
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to have. If if at the
end of the day we all sit down

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and say, you know what,
where it is makes total sense and it

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continues to bring in the atmosphere that
it has had, then then so be

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it. But I think it's it's
it's proudent for us to continue to do

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our job to at least to continue
to think about those those possibilities. So

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you met, you guys met in
Phoenix not too long ago and maybe recent

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resting what was determined or was it
just to get together to see what's coming

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up? So we were actually talking
about a lot of things. So at

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the same time we're discussing transfer,
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that we're facing, understanding it the
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So it was a bigger conversation about
a lot of things. We really

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dove in deep into trying to understand
where college landscape is going, how does

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basketball fit into that equation and what
are some of the hurdles that we have

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to overcome. So we were doing
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not much, just sitting around and
hanging out. But it was good.

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It was It was well needed because
putting putting ads coaches in a room to

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have conversation, have good dialogue.
It's important with everybody's scheduled, especially this

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time of year with basketball season going
on, and being able to get some

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of our coaches involved in ABC the
coaches so siation. It's that's that's that's

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really important. We're talking to Eddie
Noon as athletic director at New Mexico also

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the chair of the n C Double
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wearing both your hats as an as
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being on this committee. Is now
a good time or a hard time,

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or maybe both to be in the
position and doing the things that you're doing

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I mean, it's sure. The
job has got to be dang hard.

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Yeah, I would tell you that, you know again and any any job

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that's that's worth Uh. The easiest
way to put it is we're here to

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serve service and athletes and everything we
do. So to me, we're always

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gonna have challenge. There's always gonna
be something around the corner that's gonna kind

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of make us do things that are
probably uncommon and the reality is that's that's

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part of it. So I would
tell you, sure, are we in

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Are we in a challenging state right
now? I would say we are,

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And I think nobody would disagree with
that. I think there's a lot of

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things that need to be hammered out, figured out and to get we have

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to do it together. We have
to figure this out because it's in the

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best interest for college athletics. It's
in the best interest for you know,

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the championships and everything that we discussed, and for our student athletes, putting

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them in a position that if they
have the ability to generate, you know,

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some kind of revenue, if it's
through nil or however it may be,

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we have to continue to find ways
to to to move it, move

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it in the right direction. So
I've been out here, Eddie from New

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Mexico thirty five years. I covered
Arizona a PAC twelve member, kind of

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not the elite like the SEC,
but the PAC twelve has a reputation.

408
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And then I go back home and
I went to New Mexico State in New

409
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Mexico, and I'm thinking, how
do these teams survive? And I say

410
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that with respect because you have what
you have, but you're not Arizona.

411
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You're not u CLA, you know
what I'm saying. And Arizona's not Alabama.

412
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So in in IL world, you're
kind of like the the afterthoughts.

413
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And with all due respect, but
you know what I'm saying, how do

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you survive? And these kids get
money where there's probably little money. Well,

415
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I think, first of all,
I'm sorry about that that you attended

416
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to me live with. Wait wait
a minute. The fact is having spent

417
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time in the SEC. I spent
a good percentage of my career in the

418
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SEC, so I understand what it
is at that level. We're having the

419
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.680
ability to be here six years now, we can compete. Now are we

420
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.839
going to be able to compete and
a sustain a level that's against the Alabama's,

421
00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.920
the Clemsons, Arizonas and all stuff. In certain sports, it's a

422
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lot more challenging and we have and
we have to be aware of that.

423
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.000
We have to understand that we can't
be naive to the to that situation when

424
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you look at all the other sports
and you talk about what possibilities exist here

425
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:02.359
at a school the University of New
Mexico, we've been able to compete at

426
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.000
the highest level in batman's basketball,
all other sports. Football. We have

427
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:08.759
to do better and that's something we
know. But when you talk about the

428
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nil and you talk about possibilities,
when it comes to basically resources, giving

429
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.799
the resources those teams to be successful, we're not at the same level.

430
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:25.880
We understand that, but we have
also seen that if done right, you

431
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.599
have a chance to compete, win
championships, maybe conference championships, maybe even

432
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bowls in football. In other sports, be able to compete up when we

433
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.720
won two national championships, and I
know it's a cross country here, but

434
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for a school like the University of
Mexico to be able to compete with three

435
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hundred some schools, it goes to
show it's possible. But you can't be

436
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.039
naive and you can't think that.
Look, it's not. So I relish

437
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:53.720
the challenge. I'm not against competing
at the highest level. I understand what

438
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it takes. And so what we
do every day is we try to do

439
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.000
everything we do at the level that
that would give us a chance to compete.

440
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.640
So I don't want people thinking that
we're only competing for a conference.

441
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.839
We're competing to be to be the
best we can be. And that's the

442
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.759
way our staff is, our coaches, and our student athletes. And so

443
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.920
again it's it's a challenge, but
we relish in it. So you're an

444
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.359
ad and so obviously you know you've
got you know, you're dealing with football

445
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.359
and and all the other sports and
basketball, you know, but you're on

446
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.319
this basketball overside committee. But with
what's going on in football, and let's

447
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.000
let's call it what it is,
they're driving the ship right now, or

448
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.680
the car or the boat or whatever. You know, football is driving what's

449
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.480
happening as it relates to realignment,
maybe even as it relates to n I

450
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.480
L and transfer Portland all that kind
of stuff. When you're how are you

451
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.480
able to kind of keep basketball sort
of in the picture and be able to

452
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:57.480
make sure that basketball's best interests don't
get lost in what's going on in football.

453
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:04.200
You know, I learned a long
time ago, having spent playing at

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00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.599
the University of Florida, working for
Jeremy Foley when he was the FI director

455
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:14.519
at the University of Florida, working
for some great ads at LSU and other

456
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:18.839
places. At Vanderbilt, I learned
that you have to give everybody the ability

457
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.680
to be successful. And the way
I look at it is I want my

458
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.720
basketball coaches to understand that he is
a party, he is gonna and I

459
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.799
try to show that same opportunity for
every one of our coaches. You know,

460
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.200
we haven't had the success in football
here that I that I think myself

461
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.480
and our fan base want to see. We did unbelievable higher this year and

462
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.960
have Bronco Manning Hall as our new
football coach, and we're excited for that.

463
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.559
But our previous coach did an unbelievable
job. Actually he's now there at

464
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:55.640
Arizona. He did an unbelievable job
helping us build the culture back. And

465
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.920
so I understand that every sport looks
and say football drives the train. I

466
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.720
get it. But you can when
you look at our student athletes, and

467
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.640
we have five hundred student athletes here. I need them to understand that we're

468
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.160
going to invest every resource, every
opportunity to show that we can win and

469
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.000
win at a high level in their
sport. And so that's the way we

470
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.400
approach it. You have to have
coaches that understand it and buy into it,

471
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.279
because at least for me, I
want coaches that are all in.

472
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.279
We're all in this together. If
we have silos, it's not going to

473
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.160
be successful for everybody. So we've
been able to do some special things here,

474
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.839
but be able to do that means
you have to have the right people.

475
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.119
So you're in a tough position as
an ad ADS a tough position as

476
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:43.079
Jay was talking about today, we
met with Mike Candrea, you know,

477
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.279
the interim AD here just all the
things that are going on the wild wild

478
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:52.720
West. It's trying to figure out
what's going on. How do you guys

479
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.559
survive? And then everybody This is
an ad general question with all the things

480
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.839
going on, because there's so many
things and just keep chipping away. I

481
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.240
mean there's no there's no uh,
I mean there's nothing that I can say

482
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:08.920
right now. There's still a lot
of work that has to be done in

483
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:13.920
the world of like I said,
transfer of the nil but all the nuances

484
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.680
that we're dealing with today. But
it's it's part of working together. I

485
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.640
mean, we've got to find ways
to continue to chip away and do what

486
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:27.400
we can if it's truly about the
best interests of our student athletes and putting

487
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.960
our institutions in the right place.
We've got to make sure that we just

488
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:36.200
continue to to to help get where
we need to be, because I think

489
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.559
that's the other side of this is
a lot of people are waiting for somebody

490
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.240
else to do it, and the
reality is we all have to do this

491
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.359
together. There's gonna be some federal
support that's gonna have to get involved.

492
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.960
There's there's institutions, the conferences.
Everybody's gonna have to find a way to

493
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.599
get to where we need to get
to to make it happen. I mean,

494
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.599
it really does. I'd be remissed
to not ask you have you ever

495
00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:02.880
been to Tucson interested I actually I
played against in ninety I think it was

496
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.400
ninety five or ninety six, it
might have been ninety sixteen. We played

497
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.679
We played there in the tournament.
They used to have there the holiday tournament.

498
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:15.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
it was good. It was a

499
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:17.480
good time. I enjoyed my time
in Tucson, really did. Uh.

500
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.079
We didn't win, but you know
what it was that that team ended up

501
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.440
going to win the national championship.
So I look back and I'm like,

502
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.360
it was a good it was a
good tournament, a good time. So

503
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.679
let me finish. Would you be
interested in a job out here? They're

504
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.039
looking for a you know, at
this point, I'm excited about where I

505
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.039
am. You could never talk about
the future, but I tell you that,

506
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.559
and my focus is always to do
the best job that I am where

507
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.079
I am. That's that's always been
my number one responsibility. And sure,

508
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.760
so I would tell you that.
You know, if, if and when

509
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.679
time comes one day that it takes
me away from where I am today,

510
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.360
it's gonna have to be something that's
right for my family and I. Politicians,

511
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:02.440
by the way, don't let Jeff
Grammer bull you around. I brought

512
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.239
him to Tucson. He left here
to go to New Mexico, so don't

513
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.360
edge Grammar. Well, I apologize
for you, knowing Jeff. I do

514
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.280
want to say this for your because
I know you guys get traction in Phoenix

515
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.960
hopefully. But I also want to
say in behalf of the men's basketball,

516
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.199
we are ecstatic about having the Final
Four in Phoenix this year. I mean,

517
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.880
I mean, if you go back
to twenty seventeen, the second largest

518
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.719
attendance, what the host committee does, all the in the weather at that

519
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:36.599
time of year, it's an unbelievable
location. I know, everybody's really excited

520
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.000
for the Final Four this year.
So you know, with all the fan

521
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:43.960
fest and everything's going on, I
need to just say thank you to not

522
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.199
just the people in Phoenix, but
the people of Arizona because to be able

523
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.280
to have this tournament there, it's
all hands on deck and they do an

524
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.400
unbelievable job. So kudos to them. We're excited. As part of the

525
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.280
NCAA Men's Basketball, we're really excited
to be heading down there. Who knows

526
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:05.639
if there's going to be a Wildcat
Lobo matchup Phoenix, wouldn't that be funestatic?

527
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.320
Thank you, Eddie, Appreciate your
time. Man, all right,

528
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.119
guys, you'll have thank you be
well. Eddie Unis, Eddie Unias.

529
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.639
That's like jack Ard on your Mexico
A Basketball committee. Let's break that site

530
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.039
committee, because did you get what
he does? I mean, if there

531
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the well they did. They're just
kind of responsible for every Yeah, we'll

532
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.719
come back. Wait let them.
We can't do it in the thirty seconds

533
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:31.519
we've got. We got to go
hit our last break. So sick around,

534
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.800
we'll try and figure out what Eddie
Nunians does on the committee. If

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six seventy a company. Yep.
So what does he do well? It

583
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:13.119
just sounds like they're they're kind of
like responsible for everything that goes on with

584
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.000
college basketball. It looks like they're
you know, they appoint committee members for

585
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.800
the basketball tournament committee. They just
they're going to be the ones that will

586
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.079
make a recommendation, okay whatever.
They'll have a study or a committee or

587
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.920
whatever maker recommendation if they decide or
if they're going to look at expanding the

588
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.800
tournament. They you know, what
I read on their website, they you

589
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.239
know they'll make recommendations on rules to
the rules committee. So just basically whatever

590
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:44.960
it takes to run the basketball tournament
committee. I'm presuming that they have a

591
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.440
role or if not, are the
final decision makers on you know, basketball

592
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.920
tournament sites, men's and women,
you know, all that stuff. It's

593
00:40:53.000 --> 00:41:00.800
just they're just they're kind of like
the Commissioner's office for NCAA basketball and he's

594
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:04.719
the chair of the committee. You
you've been a bureaucrat every now a couple

595
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.360
of times. Yeah, how many
meetings did you? How many groups of

596
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.760
people the way? Too many meetings? There were sometimes that I'm like,

597
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.519
one meeting after the next, the
next meeting. Oh yeah, I mean,

598
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.519
like, you know, you're making
me have nightmares about my time at

599
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.280
the city. I mean it was
just, you know, I was a

600
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:28.159
communications guy, so I had to
be at everything. Yeah, you know,

601
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:31.519
you know there was a weekly uh
you know, staff meeting with all

602
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.400
the department. He had the first
thing Monday mornings, then there was another

603
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.559
one right before the city council meeting
the next day, and then there was

604
00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:42.000
one at the end of the week. And my point is, okay,

605
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.760
so we get these meetings and then
you have more meetings for meetings, and

606
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:45.960
what the hell do you keept done? I mean, you know what,

607
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.280
you know what I'm saying. Well, in my in my case, it

608
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.880
was hard to get stuff done because
I was in so many meetings. Now,

609
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.400
not every department had was in every
meeting that I went to, but

610
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:59.320
then I wasn't in every meeting that
they had, you know. But you

611
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.079
know, I seem you know,
my wife and then the job she has

612
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.239
with them with a medical company,
you know, and she works from home,

613
00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:07.840
but she goes into her office and
closes the door. She can be

614
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.679
in there all day, one meeting
after another. I've seen her calendar and

615
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:22.360
I'm like, that's very colorful.
Hunt. It's got colored blocks all over

616
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:30.440
the day. Things I got yelled
at yesterday because she's in a meeting,

617
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.559
right So you got to understand her. Her office is right off of our

618
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:36.960
living room, so and my office
is in the living room. Okay,

619
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.400
she closes the door. She's un
meeting on zoom or whatever, and one

620
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.119
of our cats started screaming, just
screaming and just standing over in the kitchen

621
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.000
just screaming. And I'm like,
I'm screaming at the cat for screaming and

622
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:54.840
she goes everybody can hear you in
my meeting? Were you? I might

623
00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.599
have I might have done a couple
of damnits, But that's that's not too

624
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.719
bad. If you want to call
him, please do five two zero,

625
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:06.119
four one, six, seventy four
forty. I think we're done with the

626
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:10.440
CA Andrea stuff. Did we play
the last one? Oh yeah, yeah,

627
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.920
yeah, yeah, yah, yeah
we were, And there's still plenty

628
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.039
more. But again, let's well, let's go back to that. Though,

629
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.599
A really interesting time with him,
because you know, look, I've

630
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.639
always seen him as a softball coach. Yeah, and you know, obviously

631
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.760
he's way smarter than just a softball
coach. He could run this department.

632
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.400
I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I
think he could. Yeah. You know

633
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:36.880
again, he'd have to, you
know, surround himself with the right people,

634
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:39.800
which anybody has to do. But
I could see him being in you

635
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.119
know, the the airs on an
athletic director. I don't know think he

636
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.039
will be, but I was trying
to picture him, as you know,

637
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.400
in Davey's chair up there at the
at the podium, and I thought he

638
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.079
could do this if you want,
but your perception of him is correct because

639
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:59.719
he is the softball coach. But
I think isn't most of those or most

640
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:05.480
of those eighties former coaches or coaches, athletes, all those things. Yeah,

641
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.159
but I think before he comes off
those being good at is he's a

642
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:12.880
people person. He's a people person, and he and and again. But

643
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:20.719
what you know, what do Arizona
Athletics fans want? They want somebody who

644
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:25.760
understands what Arizona sure, sure,
right And if there's a guy who does,

645
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:30.320
he's the guy. Now does Brent
Brennan? I think he does.

646
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.960
I think Tommy Lloyd has got to
handle on it very quickly. Yeah,

647
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.920
yeah, let me ask you.
I came up there was another show was

648
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.079
listening to earlier today about something.
So I want to ask you be candid

649
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.360
with me and YouTube kept who's the
best coach at you obey right now,

650
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:52.000
right now today? It's hard to
say Steve because I don't know that,

651
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.760
we don't know some of the other
coaches. So I was well enough I

652
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.800
was going to go with the other
one of the other Yes, but I

653
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:04.159
would say, you'd have to say
Clancy Shields tennis tennis tennis number one.

654
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.840
You know, you'd have to argue
for Jim Anderson, who we had on

655
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:12.119
the show yesterday about golf women's.
Yeah, Laura and Elo, you'd have

656
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.519
to argue is going to go with
look at what John Court's doing with with

657
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.159
the gymnastics program. We gotta get
him on the show, you know,

658
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.360
you know, you look at I
think that I think the the the the

659
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.159
jury is still out on Caitlin Lowe
over in softball, Drew Tommy Lloyd,

660
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.119
the journey, journey jury's out less
out than it's you know, more and

661
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.039
more. I think you're getting that
he's pretty damn good. But I think

662
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.559
he's you know, people will say
basketball, people say him because that's a

663
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:43.599
has been has been really good,
and that's what they know, you know,

664
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.199
Chip Hale, I mean, you
know, we're we're still finding out

665
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:52.400
about him. You know, uh
Fred, uh Fred Harvey. You know,

666
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.880
guy's been doing this for Yeah.
I mentioned most of the coaches.

667
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.559
Yeah, I would say Clancy Shields. Yeah, I would say Clancy's probably

668
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:07.280
done the most and brought his team, his program, the furthest right.

669
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.519
Arizona was already really good in golf, both men's and women. There's also

670
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:15.599
idea who's brought Using the same example, the same example idea, but you

671
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.199
know, you can't help but have
question marks about what's going on in that

672
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.360
program right now. But you know, she one of the best, She's

673
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.519
one of the best. Is she
the best? I don't know. You

674
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.599
know, if you if you put
a knife to my throat, as I

675
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.000
always say, i'd probably say Clancy
Shields right now, that's who I would

676
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.920
have picked it. Yeah. Yeah, And he's and he's personal, he's

677
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.920
smart. Obviously we talked to him, and he's brought this program. Yeah.

678
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.000
Who would have thought, right,
Yeah, But you know, look

679
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.920
at what Jim Anderson is doing over
there and and Laurie Golf. You know,

680
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.719
they've been doing so well that Jenny
Clements threw up millions of dollars and

681
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.639
whoever else throw up millions of dollars
to build this country facility at Tucson Country

682
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.719
Club that I see going up every
Tuesday when I go over there for my

683
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.280
breakfast meeting, it's like, you
know, it's it's coming along. Yeah,

684
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:01.159
And that's a great and that's a
great golf course. So no,

685
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.360
I yeah, I mean, but
they've got a bunch of good coaches over

686
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.920
there. Steve. You know,
I don't know that there's a bad coach,

687
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:13.400
right, No, well there's nobody
that we think is that we here

688
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:19.159
is obviously bad right right? You
know, so you know, and a

689
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.760
lot of programs have that. But
you know, I mean what I want

690
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:22.920
to be at ACU right now.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to deal

691
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.360
with Bobby Hurley on the daily.
Well did I ask you this question?

692
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.800
If you I did ask you this
question, if you were, if you

693
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.760
were a guy like an Eddie Nunis
or whomever, whould you take this job?

694
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.239
I would? I told you I
would, because oh today, today,

695
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:42.880
today, under the circumstances, because
again, because you would be coming

696
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:47.559
in with an opportunity and challenge to
fix something kind of like what Jed Fish

697
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.320
did with football. You know who
would want who wanted that job? Will

698
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.239
somebody who had the attitude that says, I know it sucks, I know

699
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.199
things are horrible over there, but
I think I can fix that. And

700
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:06.800
and if you're an if you're an
AD at a New Mexico or above level

701
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.119
program, you think you're good enough
to come and do this job? Right

702
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.840
because you're they're not gonna hire you
if they don't think they can pay you

703
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.880
In perpetuity. You know, the
you have athletic department is gonna exist.

704
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.679
It's not like one day it's gonna
shut down and you're not gonna have a

705
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:28.119
job and you're looking for a severance
package. So, if you believe that

706
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.679
you're a competent athletic director, why
wouldn't you want to come here and try

707
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:36.960
and do this where? And if
you fix it and the program goes off,

708
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.079
you're a god in this town.
I was just gonna say, I

709
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.639
think not only is it having the
right attitude, but it's also having the

710
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.000
foresight to see what the program could
be if you beat it to that place.

711
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.119
Well, guess what somewhere. Guess
what happens when you do that?

712
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:55.320
Then you go somewhere somewhere else.
You followed Greg burnd right, Honestly,

713
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.119
I'm still not sure how he got
that job. Things weren't that great here,

714
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:07.480
No, no before right, the
trail of her very much so,

715
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.000
very much so, if he calls
it, if if you're listening right now,

716
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:13.519
he's gonna call in. He's gonna
call an alloy for that, right,

717
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:17.079
but he did. If the evidence
shows us very Let's let's say his

718
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.400
name came up for this job.
Do you think this community would say,

719
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.199
okay, they would not, they
would not. Look, he did a

720
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:29.119
pretty good job. I mean a
lot of things have facilities on his watch,

721
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.000
facilities. You know, the programs
were good. A lot of good

722
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.679
things happened on his watch. But
he left a lot of stuff behind that

723
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.719
people are still talking about. Sure, but no, it's gonna take a

724
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:43.960
special person to come in and and
fix things under the conditions that are are

725
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.960
there right now. And you have
to work for a boss who we all

726
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.920
know has kind of become the micromanager
of the position, right yeah, yeah,

727
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.039
so uh you know, uh yeah, no, I think Look,

728
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.320
it's a good it's a good it's
a great place to live. That's where

729
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.119
you start, right is the place
that you're going a rat hole or is

730
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.119
a place where you go. I
can live here, I can bring my

731
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.119
family here. I mean, my
kids can go to go to school here.

732
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.360
And you know, and and I'm
gonna like the place. I'm gonna

733
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.000
like getting up in the morning and
going to work. But you know,

734
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:21.840
obviously there's a challenge. And look, as time goes on, I'm not

735
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:25.960
as caught up in Is there an
athletic director who's gonna have to. He

736
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.119
says, I'm not taking this job
until they figure out what's happening with the

737
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.760
president. Because again, if you're
good and you're doing a good job,

738
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.039
no matter who comes in as president, you know, if you're doing a

739
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:38.880
good job, they're not going to
come in here just to ax you.

740
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:42.519
Oh sure, no, no,
but we all know you've been there.

741
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:46.719
Yeah, I've probably been there.
Hei Key was not his guy, right,

742
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:51.320
it was weavers guy. Well that
see, but that comes into play

743
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.679
when stuff goes bad. Okay,
right, if if this financial issue hadn't

744
00:50:55.719 --> 00:51:00.079
happened, just no, if the
financially if things were all honky, door

745
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.320
over in the department, would still
have his job. In fact, I

746
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.280
did the profile on Hikey last year
or so, and you got some glowing

747
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:13.400
quotes from the robins and everything was
fine. But how could you not three

748
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:16.599
years ago COVID already they're already forty
five million publicly, forty five million in

749
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:22.639
the whole because of that, not
no down the road that it's gonna happen.

750
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.280
You can't spend the money that they
spent. Yeah, you just they

751
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:30.159
just didn't happen. After all these
years of saying this was a self sustaining

752
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:34.360
a place. Yeah, it's an
interesting thing that, like even Candre said,

753
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.559
it doesn't think that it's going to
be like right in the future.

754
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.719
And people need to understand. I
think in every every school, like I

755
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.320
said, they have to be going. I mean the UCLA is two hundred

756
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.559
million dollars their athletic department, only
it's two hundred million dollars in the hole,

757
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.480
which is why they you know,
high tailed it to the Big ten

758
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.679
to try and catch up. And
then how long is that going to take

759
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:53.280
to get out? Right? Plus
they got to give a bunch of the

760
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.079
money to cow So you know,
no, I you know, yeah to

761
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:00.400
your question, Yeah, I would
still take this job. If I'm a

762
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.480
city and athletic director somewhere and I
think I'm pretty good at it, I

763
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.599
would accept the challenge, and I
would I would come here. I would

764
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.760
too, especially because you see what
Burne was able to do. Yeah,

765
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.719
bag getting the Alabama job. You
see what this program and then in school

766
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.079
could be. It's gonna be interesting
to see how Greg Burnie hangs on to

767
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:21.480
his job if Alabama football goes into
the toilet. True, right, because

768
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:23.079
that's the biggest hire in the history
of the program to this point. Right,

769
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.440
if kaln to Board does a terrible
job, you know, it doesn't

770
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.199
win games, and they're become mediocre, just like that. Yeah, it's

771
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:35.840
gonna be interesting to see what what
happens to Greg burn over there. Okay,

772
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:37.159
but he's our friends, so we
won't talk bad about it. You

773
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.800
just did call tomorrow. It's Greg, I mean, it's you want to

774
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.840
talk all right, Thanks for being
here. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll

775
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.880
try and get some more Super Bowl
talking and more great guests, so be

776
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:47.559
sure to come back.