WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:14.000 Weird things happened in the backyard and weird, weird, weird. Wow, 2 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:35.799 everyone, this is an extremely momentous occasion today. Something has happened that many 3 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:41.560 of you, including us, would have never in a million years dreamed would 4 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:46.000 happen. I probably I feel like I said that completely grammatically incorrect, But 5 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:52.640 that's okay, Yoda. Oh yeah, okay, damn I'm yoda. Okay, 6 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.560 Uh, y'all. Alex, what Sean put the camera on yourself? 7 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:03.880 You freaking feed you, you sith lord. Alex watched Star Wars, all 8 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.239 six of them, all six of them. Yeah. Not not the prequel 9 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.519 series yet, he may or may not watch that, but the important ones, 10 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.719 the important ones. He watched all of them. You mean the sequel 11 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.920 series. Oh, sorry, that's what I meant, not the sequel. 12 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.480 He hasn't seen the sequel series yet. He did see the prequels. Uh. 13 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.799 The prequels are very important, very very important. But yeah, you 14 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:32.680 finally watch Star Wars, Alex. Why don't you tell everybody why you finally 15 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:38.400 watched Star Wars. That's a great question. So it has nothing to do 16 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.319 with these guys, very little to do with these guys. I went to 17 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:48.439 Disney World and the Star Wars I want to say, exhibit the Star Wars 18 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.599 land is pretty cool. Okay, and you had been to Disney before, 19 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:59.680 right fifteen years ago? Oh damn, okay, very young. So I 20 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:05.719 go to Disney World to Star Wars and made an appointment to build what is 21 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:10.800 it Savvy's workshop, Novvi's workshop anyway, build a lightsaber. I don't know, 22 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.319 I've never done that. It's it's awesome. Yeah, I haven't done 23 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:20.000 it. It's super cool. They're all very into it. So I built 24 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:23.240 a lightsaber and I'm walking around like, man, this place is like they 25 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:28.960 did it right, you know. And uh so we went home and started 26 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:35.879 episode four four You started how A lot of Star Wars fans would say is 27 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.439 the right way? You know, A lot of I feel like maybe most 28 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.960 probably definitely the right way because it's the way that it was introduced to the 29 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:47.120 world exactly it was, Yeah, exactly, that's kind of I feel like 30 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.280 that's the way. If you've never seen Star Wars before. This is which 31 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.360 which I would be surprised if you're watching this show and you've never seen Star 32 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:00.719 Wars. But if you haven't, yeah, it's you gotta start four or 33 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.159 five, six, and then one, two, and three. So it's 34 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:07.879 funny that Star Wars is probably the most referenced like fiction on this show ever 35 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:12.719 and no matter, Well, dude, it's like the most referenced fiction ever 36 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.919 ever. Yeah, that's probably true. That's the most universal piece of fiction 37 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:20.919 ever. You're that's gotta be true, like everyone in the far reaches of 38 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.800 the jungles of the world. Darth Vader is right that everybody knows who Darth 39 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:28.360 Vader is. That's a good point. I have dubbed Darth Vader in my 40 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:32.319 mind the people's villain, and we'll get into that. Yeah, I want 41 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:38.080 to hear about that. I have a thing for villains in general. I 42 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:44.000 think like the writing for villains is often the most interesting. It's often more 43 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:49.360 interesting than like the writing for the heroes, you know. And I feel 44 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:54.080 like Darth Vader is probably the most well written villain of all time. I 45 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:58.360 think he's probably also the most iconic. What's up do you think that has 46 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:03.439 to do with? Uh? Most people I'd say, are like good, 47 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.400 Right, it's easy to be good. Yeah, it's easy to write good. 48 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:12.479 But you have to give a reason for someone to be bad. Yeah, 49 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.199 people don't just be bad absolutely. Yeah, nope. That's what makes 50 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:21.319 like a good villain is. And there are exceptions, for sure. There 51 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:26.000 are some villains where you don't have to have some deep backstory or whatever that 52 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.600 are still awesome, but like to see you know, because okay, let's 53 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.319 you watch four or five and six. Those are the first ones that came 54 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:38.399 out. So if you're watching those first, all you know is this dude, 55 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:44.839 Darth Vader is crazy. He's mad powerful, he's extremely powerful with the 56 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.639 force. He's like sick with a lightsaber, like he's scary. Yeah, 57 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:54.240 he's ruthless. Oh yeah, he is ruthless, but you don't know why. 58 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:59.720 And then you watch the prequels and it gives that character infinitely more. 59 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.600 And he was already like he had depth in the in the original movies, 60 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:09.439 but but it just goes even deeper. So yeah, okay, here's a 61 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:13.040 question if we want to start, if we want to start breaking down these 62 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.720 movies and getting into them, what order do we want to do them in? 63 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.000 I think we should do it though, And because Alex had kind of 64 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:21.959 viewed them, you know, four or five, six, one two three, 65 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.160 I think we should let Alex lead the way because he had been taking 66 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.279 notes on like insights that he gained from them, you know. But I 67 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:30.600 just want to say, this is a big deal because we've been doing this 68 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.879 show. We're now in year three, we have over one hundred episodes. 69 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:40.040 We have referenced Star Wars dozens of times, even just like in passing, 70 00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:43.920 you know, about the forest or whatever, and it's just hilarious that like 71 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.240 we now live in a timeline we never thought was possible where Alex has actually 72 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:51.279 watched Star Wars, you know. So we've been saying a lot lately that 73 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:56.120 it feels like we're in the best timeline, and like this is evidence of 74 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.519 that. You're welcome, Yeah, thank you, Alex, You're welcome. 75 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.959 This is a blessing. It is. This is a blessing, and I'm 76 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.720 very eternally grateful. I love the idea of letting Alex take the lead. 77 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:09.800 You're cool with that guy. Yeah, yeah, So let's start four, 78 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.360 five six. Okay. I like it. I like it. I'm probably 79 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.680 gonna hurt a lot of feelings here, but I'm not really prepared on four 80 00:06:16.720 --> 00:06:23.360 or five six because I watched them longer ago. That's fine, Maybe breeze 81 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:28.399 through. I've got some really good one two three. I'm also got a 82 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.720 lot to say about uh four, right, four is dar Darth Maul. 83 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.199 No, no, no, no episode I'm sorry. One's Darth Maul. 84 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:40.600 Yeah, one is Darth Maul. Yeah, I'm all the numbers. It 85 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:45.160 depends on your perspective. Yeah, because episode one is also the fourth movie. 86 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.160 That's true. So I'm right, all right, an episode four is 87 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:53.639 the first movie, right right? Yeah, so I don't know, Nick, 88 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.800 take us through. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do five. 89 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.199 Six. I want to know. This is what I want to know. 90 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.319 This is what I start with. So you have this magical experience in Star 91 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.560 Wars Land. It is truly magical, Like Star Wars Land and Disney is 92 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:13.240 magical. They have the life size at at like in the Millennium Falcon, 93 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.519 the Millennium Falcon, dude, if they're all walking around and like like you 94 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.600 know Stormtroopers and like even the just the Disney World employees who like work there, 95 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.319 you know, your ordinary kids, and like they're you know, just 96 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.000 show up and they're like work the cash register. They they are they have 97 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:31.199 to role play. Yeah, like it's not dollars. They only say credits 98 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:35.199 things like that. It's very immersive. Yeah, so I like hahn a 99 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.639 lot. Okay, Yeah, that's what I wanted to know. So coming 100 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.759 back from Star Wars Land, Uh, you want you start watching episode four? 101 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.879 What's the moment in episode four where you get that first hit of like, 102 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:50.040 oh wait, this is gonna be good, Like this is gonna be 103 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:56.680 really good. I don't know if it happening before. Really. Yeah, 104 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:03.199 I mean it's like I'm an appreciator because I know that at the time that 105 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:09.959 it came out it was world class, but the way it ages is not, 106 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.079 like you know what I mean. So I'm just watching for the plot. 107 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.199 I'm kind of giggling at some of the fights. Yeah, I mean, 108 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:22.439 if it's your first time ever seeing it, dude, Well yeah, 109 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:24.839 let's be clear here though, Like I think you're referencing the fight between Obi 110 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:31.000 Wan and Darth Vader in the end and very very special, very important. 111 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:35.879 But to be like completely fair, like the original idea of the Jedi was 112 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:41.240 they were fighting like Samurai. Yeah, that was the original vision. So 113 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.440 if you notice the way they hold their sabers, they're like Samurai. It's 114 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:48.240 it's minimal movements. Wasn't until one, two three where they're like flipping all 115 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:50.480 over the place, which is awesome. Yeah you know, yeah, so 116 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:56.440 okay, so we have episode four. Episode four is pretty basic, like 117 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.399 you got Luke on tattooing, he's growing up, he's like the slave farmer 118 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:05.320 kid. And then out of the desert comes this freaking wizard guy, yeah 119 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:11.120 Ben old man Ben, who you find out is actually obi Wan Kenobi and 120 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:16.320 they he has R two D two. Well, they get R two D 121 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:22.919 two from the Jahwa traders and Luke stumbles upon the distress Beacon from Leah and 122 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:26.240 it's like help me, obi Wan Kenobi, your our only hope. Luke 123 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.279 is like, wait, Kenobi, there's that guy Ben Kenobi. Let me 124 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.480 go see what's up with him. He's like they describe as him as like 125 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.840 some wizard in the desert, like some weird hooded you know, and really 126 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:41.360 he's been there the entirety of Luke's life. He has for meeting waiting for 127 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:46.399 him. That's actually true. And if you ever, I highly highly highly 128 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:52.080 recommend watching the Obi Wan TV series because you see what happened during that time 129 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:58.960 when Obi Wan was on tattooing waiting for Luke, and it was not smooth. 130 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.440 He wasn't hang no no, no, no, no, no, 131 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:07.159 no, no, there's some very important context in that show. But yeah, 132 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.840 and and long story short, it's a it's a fairly basic it's like 133 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.080 your typical hero's journey plot. Yes, that's funny you say that, because 134 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.639 actually, like I didn't want to like just come right out the gate with 135 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.919 this, but there's this incredible documentary that I highly recommend eventually you should watch 136 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.279 Empire of Dreams. And it was it was pre Disney era like it was, 137 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.799 it was not it's on Disney Plus, but it's not affiliated with Disney 138 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.440 as a company. It was just completely made by Lucas Films or whoever you 139 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.440 know in the days when it was just one through six and it's like an 140 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:45.840 extreme four through six or no, right, it was just an extreme deep 141 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.399 dive into like George Lucas, the vision behind the project, how it happened, 142 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.919 what it was based on. And George Lucas just flat out he's he 143 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.600 comes right out and says it. He's like, you know, the archetypes 144 00:10:54.639 --> 00:11:00.960 of Star Wars are very heavily based on the work of Joseph Hambell, who 145 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:03.720 is an author. I can't remember the name of his book that he wrote. 146 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.399 If you wouldn't mind looking that up. But it's it's a book about 147 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:16.000 like mythological archetypes, and it's drawing from like syncretic occult mystery traditions as well. 148 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.200 Yeah, so he he's flat out saying it, like, you know, 149 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:20.600 Thish is based on the mystery tradition. I think he is. He 150 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.240 has a couple Hero's joy, the hero's journey, I think the hero with 151 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:26.440 a thousand faces. Yeah, yeah, the power of the myth Those are 152 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.960 those are extremely famous books that describe like story archetypes or mythology. They they 153 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:37.960 yeah, but but but what it's saying in the very strict terminology without just 154 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:43.519 saying it is it's like based on the occult and the wisdom traditions. Yeah, 155 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.639 they're just not saying that. He at other points in that he talks 156 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.279 about Buddhism, you know, Zendism and stuff like that too. So I 157 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.320 mean it's it is obviously like pretty inspired. And the first hint of that 158 00:11:54.320 --> 00:12:00.960 that you get in episode four is when they're in obi Wan's like and obi 159 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:05.320 wanas explaining the force to Luke and he's like, it surrounds us and penetrates 160 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:11.679 us. It's the life force between all things, and you know, he 161 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:16.240 explains that binds the universe together. Yeah, and that we're all from the 162 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.519 Force and will return to the Force. You know, all this stuff. 163 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.759 It's it's very spirits, like the esoteric god Force energy field. It's the 164 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.039 same thing. It's based on that. Yeah. And that's another thing we 165 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.480 say all the time on the show when we're talking about like collective consciousness and 166 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.360 stuff like that, like we're like, it's the Force. Yeah, it's 167 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.519 like literally, yeah, yeah it is. And then yeah, so okay, 168 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.120 Alex, you were saying you really like Han Solo. Yeah, I'm 169 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:48.159 a big Han Solo respecters. Okay, now I get to subject you to 170 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.240 the one of the most famous Star Wars questions ever. Oh god, yeah, 171 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:54.279 I know it is. He didn't see the originals as a kid. 172 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.639 So there's this hot debate, Alex. You remember in the tavern when they 173 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:05.720 were in the must I Sily Cantina and Han shot that alien. So there's 174 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.279 this like highly debated thing. What was the conflict there? Oh? Oh? 175 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.799 Han owed Java a bunch of money, right, and Grido with the 176 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.399 alien was there to like try to collect on his debt and whatever, and 177 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.480 Han was like, I don't have the money. I'm gonna get it to 178 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.360 him as soon as possible, and Grito was basically like, time's up. 179 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.440 You gotta give me the money or I'll shoot you right now. And there's 180 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:31.000 this like hot debate. Did Grito shoot first or did Han shoot first? 181 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.200 Don't care? Yeah, Han's in the right, yeah he yeah. I 182 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:37.120 mean, well, he he owed money to a gangster and then he killed 183 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.840 a guy trying to collect on it, So I don't know if he's in 184 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:43.559 the right. At the time watching, you're like, I don't know if 185 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:45.960 he's in the right. I don't know this guy. And then you meet 186 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.200 what Java and you're like, yeah, that that dude's in the right, 187 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:56.519 right, right. So Jabba is a notorious like war criminal gangster, like 188 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.120 he's he's bad news. Yeah, some bad things are for good. Yeah 189 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:05.399 yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's a recurring theme. I was gonna 190 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:09.919 say that that kind of pops up quite a bit in Star Wars. So, 191 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.279 okay, so we meet Leiah in one or two in one one and 192 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.960 then we find out they're related into yeah. Yeah, but there's a little 193 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.360 teaser because she feels they're connected by the force. No, you don't find 194 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.519 out they're related until the sixth movie. You're right, You're You're right. 195 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:30.399 Yeah, you find out that Darth Vader is father in the fifth one. 196 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:37.320 So I think I'm thinking in the fifth they have some sort of telepathic communication. 197 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:39.960 He's in trouble, She's in trouble kind of thing. Yes, And 198 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.720 that's through the force. And if you're paying attention here, you go, 199 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:50.000 oh, he's got it and she's got it. They must be related. 200 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:54.759 They do that. But keep in mind when it came out in nineteen eighty, 201 00:14:54.759 --> 00:15:00.639 nobody no the fourth one. Also, I mean, I'm also like 202 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.000 at a head start because I hang out with you guys and did a whole 203 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.480 episode on it, and so like I've got all these things. It's been 204 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.519 out for like forty or fifty years now, right, what I'm saying, 205 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.440 Like, imagine, imagine seeing this in nineteen eighty. This was the most 206 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.720 advanced film of all time. Like you know, like think about like all 207 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.720 the movies that came out in the seventies and eighties. There were like big 208 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.440 hits. You know, you have stuff like Conan the Barbarian, you have 209 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.440 you know, Terminator, all this stuff that came out in the seventies. 210 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.000 And eighties, like it's big stuff. But like the thing about Star Wars 211 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:37.240 is so cool is I feel like it was the first like big, big 212 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.600 blockbuster that had these deep, mystical, you could say, esoteric themes that 213 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:45.919 like I don't know, man, it it just it just blew the mind 214 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:48.720 of humanity. Yet like we've rocked the world. Yeah, that was a 215 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.559 movie where and like you know, even to this day, like sci fi 216 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.559 movies are kind of niche, like not everybody likes sci fi. It's fading. 217 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.440 It's much bigger, you know now than it was back then. But 218 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:06.039 due to imagine the late seventies, like sci fi was incredibly niche. But 219 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:11.440 this movie came out and everyone on the planet saw it. Yeah, everybody 220 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:15.320 was like I don't care if it's sci fi, look at it. It's 221 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:17.919 incredible, Like like, well, I'm gonna go see that, you know, 222 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:23.159 And and yeah, you're totally right. It that probably evolved human consciousness. 223 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.120 Absolutely, it probably did. It revealed a lot. You know, 224 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.679 it didn't come out and say it, but it it revealed so much rich 225 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.399 esoteric wisdom that I think that's like part of the reason, you know, 226 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.440 like you know, there was already Star trek right in the sixties and beyond, 227 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.000 and you know, like sci fi is is this or that like it? 228 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.720 You know, it's it's not super popular today. I mean really like 229 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.600 you know, trending and pop culture. It's superhero stuff, anime like sci 230 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.720 fi is not really like what it was. But like what sets Star Wars 231 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.840 apart is we're talking about space wizards with laser swords here, yeah, with 232 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.519 magic and psychic powers. It's like fantasy and fantasy yea, yeah, it's 233 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.440 spirit, hookey religions and ancient technology. Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's 234 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.359 a good blaster at your side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what 235 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:14.559 it is. It hit, It hit something that nothing had hit at that 236 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:18.160 point. Yeah. You know. The cool one of the cool things about 237 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:22.960 episode four two is like it does dip your toes into the mystical stuff for 238 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:29.079 sure, but it doesn't go real hard until episode five. Episode five, 239 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:33.359 they just threw a caution to the wind and we're like, we're dropping all 240 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.759 the mystical bombs on this one. But I mean, episode four, like 241 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.359 I said, for the most part, it's pretty straightforward one of the big 242 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.240 like mystical, esoteric, occult, whatever you want to call it. Like 243 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:51.319 significant moments that happen in episode four is when Obi Wan and Darth Vader fought, 244 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.640 and you know, you see obi One have this like premonition or this 245 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:02.119 thought or feeling or something, and he just like holds his lightsaber still and 246 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.960 lets darth Vader strike him down, and well he says something, Oh, 247 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.279 he told Darth Vader, strike me down, and I shall become more powerful 248 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.599 than you could ever imagine. Yeah. Yeah, and then he lets him 249 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:18.319 kill him because he can tell that Darth Vader is still bent on killing him, 250 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.559 because you know, he wants to exact his revenge on Obi Wan. 251 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:29.640 And there's I think there's something to be said to about Luke and Luke's limited 252 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:37.279 time with his Master and how powerful Luke became and what he did having a 253 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:45.839 fraction of the Master time that the people before him did, which says a 254 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:51.960 lot about his lineage. Absolutely it does. Before Disney bought Star Wars again, 255 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.759 this is old inside baseball of like literally everybody else in the world who 256 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.359 likes Star Wars back then, you know, like he just weren't there for 257 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:00.880 this kind of stuff. You know, you weren't part of the elite like 258 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:06.559 every day person of the world who watched Star Wars before they were like twenty 259 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.359 five, you know what I mean. But I'm twenty four. So oh 260 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:12.000 shoot, there you go. You'll be twenty five this month, he'll be 261 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:17.519 next week, he'll be twenty five for the week after. Baby jokes aside, 262 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.599 you know, just sarcasm aside. George Lucas came out and he was 263 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:25.480 like, Luke Skywalker is the strongest Jedi who has ever lived. That was 264 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:27.359 his That was his idea of Luke was like, even though you know, 265 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.119 uh Anakin was the chosen one who would balance the force, Luke was like 266 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:37.000 the Jedi with the strongest potential of all, like ever, and then of 267 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:38.839 course Disney gets involved. Okay, have a different idea. You just said 268 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:44.039 that, right, Anakin balanced the Force. Luke's strongest Jedi ever. Yeah, 269 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:48.759 there would be no Luke without Anakin, right, So who balanced the 270 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:53.599 force? Anakin? Yeah? Anakin? Anakin did. Anakin never stopped being 271 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:59.240 the chosen one. Everything that happened was supposed to happen exactly the way that 272 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:03.480 it happened. I know you're getting me hot, Yes, all right, 273 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:10.279 So we're gonna breeze Pass six. We'll come back. We don't come back 274 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:11.839 the whole plot thing. No, we're gonna come back. Okay. So 275 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:18.559 one two three I started developing this theory and if I'm if this is just 276 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.440 old news to you, then tell me, stop me, don't let me. 277 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:29.359 What's the theory? Anakin Darth Vader is the Journey of Man. Yes 278 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:34.279 he is. He's Lucifer, he exactly he is. The second episode Who 279 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:41.400 Does Man podcast is about that he is born a not like he doesn't know 280 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:47.000 who he is, and so he's born a human being with original sin because 281 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.680 he has all of the desires of someone who wasn't brought up in the Jedi 282 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:53.720 Temple. He wants to love, he was attached to things. He has 283 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:59.640 this ego about him and that's not his fault. And then he goes through 284 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:07.079 this whole old transition and becomes aware and then dies and is resurrected and sent 285 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.720 to Heaven. Absolutely real quick, I want to show you this. Maybe 286 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.519 we can include it in the episode. Look, Alex, that's like the 287 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:18.000 most paint famous painting of Lucifer and that's Anakin. Oh yeah, look you 288 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.680 could probably see it right. Uh, wait for it? Is it? 289 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.640 Like? Wait for it? There it is there it is. Yeah, 290 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:29.720 so it's like a comparison. There's a shot where like they basically mirror the 291 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.160 painting, the famous painting of Lucifer, and it's Anakin. And like we've 292 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:38.759 talked in a in a recent episode about how you know what's it, uh, 293 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:48.079 theosophically Theosophically Lucifer is seen as like a representation of the journey of man, 294 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.200 right, Yeah, like Alex sent from the spiritual and then we're here 295 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:55.200 in the material and we're learning these lessons through trial and suffering. And yeah, 296 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:57.119 I think, Alex, you're right on the money. Yeah, and 297 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.880 uh, you know, I don't I don't know if you caught it in 298 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:07.720 episode one, but you know who Anakin's dad is, right the Force? 299 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:12.480 Yeah, yeah, he's also Christ. Yeah, he literally was an immaculate 300 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:17.599 conception. Right, he was an immaculate conception. So appears to me in 301 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:22.160 to my first note, Okay, this is episode one arguably my favorite episode. 302 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.079 SAME's it's tied between one and three for me. We gets a lot 303 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.720 of hate, but it is amazing. It's my favorite. And I just 304 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:38.119 want to take a moment to talk about Anakin's mother who and I just want 305 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:45.759 to talk about motherhood because she is such an underrated character with such an important 306 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:55.759 job and did did her duty like selflessly, she did not hold him back. 307 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.839 She and it's like and and it's it touched me a little bit because 308 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.319 my mom's going through the same thing. I'm not, I'm I'm not anakin 309 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:07.519 or I might be are, but you know, I'm out of the house, 310 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:12.000 my little brother getting ready to move away, and my mother feeling very 311 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:17.960 like empty nester about it. Yeah, and it's not it sucks, but 312 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.519 it's it's like, you did it, like your mission complete and you're mission. 313 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:25.880 You're not over, like you're you know, your kids aren't gone, 314 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.079 right, But it's like she let him go, did not hold him back, 315 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:36.359 did not shed a tear in front of him, and did like just 316 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:40.759 just so underrated, like like you did such a good job. And I 317 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:44.799 can't I can't really find the words without being so sappy about it. But 318 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.119 like that whole thing really hit me because she could have made it so hard 319 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:52.079 for him to leave. She could, and she could have been so jealous 320 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.319 that it wasn't her. Let's light one for Alex's mom. Let's light one 321 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:59.480 for Alex's mom. This is for you. Alex's mom, Teresa Teresa Teresa 322 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:06.319 Skywalker smish. Yeah, Yo, you know what Alex Alex Theresa Sisa, 323 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:12.839 Alex, I have to I didn't think you would say anything that like didn't 324 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:17.680 occur to me already. And that might sound like pompous or whatever, but 325 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:18.880 it's not like that. We've seen the movies one hundred times. I have 326 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:25.240 seen him, and you know what, man, I've never like given Shmi 327 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.160 time. I've never given time and been like, oh damn, like she 328 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:36.920 really, I mean think even before I think even before he left. I 329 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.799 mean he she recognized his talents. Yeah, she gave him support, the 330 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.519 support and the free range to go and explore his abilities. She could have 331 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.920 stopped him from pod racing her report, dude, oh my god. And 332 00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.640 you know what it was. It was her faith. She was talking to 333 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.839 Qui Gon and she was like, there was no father. She she said, 334 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.440 there was no father. I had him. I know he's meant for 335 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.799 greatness, right, I know he's meant for great things. So like it 336 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:08.480 was her so selfless, oh so selfless. Yeah. And it's like to 337 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.720 moms everywhere who are giving every ounce of themselves for their children. Shout out 338 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.400 to all y'all, all star moms out there. It's want it shout to 339 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.359 be one of the hardest jobs on the planet. Yeah, shout out are 340 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.799 shaping and molding the future. Thank you. Shout out to the moms. 341 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:29.319 Dude, come on with the heat, Alex. I'm proud of you. 342 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.519 Do all right? Yeah you want to shift gears a little bit? Yeah, 343 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.039 Star Wars, but real quick? Did it? Like? So I 344 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.799 never had that deep emotional connection to Schmid, So did you, like, 345 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:45.039 did it fuck you up? When she died? I felt like anakin. 346 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:52.039 Yeah, I would have done the exact same thing and more. When he 347 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.960 probably my favorite part of six movies is when he comes out of that tent. 348 00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.240 It just cuts the head off of those what are their names for the 349 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.480 Tuscan Raiders. Yeah, like, dude, it's pretty raw. When oh, 350 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:08.359 it's so raw. He killed the men and the women and the children 351 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:14.680 too, and they're animals and I slaughtered them like animals. Yeah, that's 352 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.720 pure anger right there. And I felt that yeah, yeah, like and 353 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.079 I would have done the same thing. And it goes back to what you 354 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.759 were saying about the genius writing, Alex, because like you're watching it and 355 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.039 you're like God, he should not be doing that. But like I can't 356 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:34.240 blame him, Yeah, like I can't. They they tortured his mother endlessly 357 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:44.039 and enslaved her, and then she died slowly and painful. I loved her 358 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:51.200 her passing. Oh really like the timing of it. It like I felt 359 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:56.440 like resolved. Like I'm glad that those last thirty seconds were the last thirty 360 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.759 seconds. M But I would have done exactly the same thing and I would 361 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.680 have found more Tuscan raiders to continue on go. What did What did she 362 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.200 say to him? She said, what did she say to him if she 363 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.119 was dying? She's like she said something like I'm complete, or like thank 364 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:14.440 you, I love you, I'm proud of you. Yeah, like her 365 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.920 dying moments, she was like, yeah, that's all I wanted just to 366 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.720 see. Oh yeah, She's like you came back. You came back. 367 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.039 And he told her he told her he would. Yeah exactly. He's like, 368 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.519 I told you I would. Mom. Oh well, I just keep 369 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:29.799 thinking, you know, we all watched the third movie together last night, 370 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.680 and I keep thinking about, like how when he was having the premonitions about 371 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.839 pad Me dying and he was like, I won't lose you like I lost 372 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:38.319 my mother. You know, it was like the trauma of his mother like 373 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.920 pushed him. Yeah, you know, it was integral too to me. 374 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:47.240 And I started thinking about this last night after the movie. Is this destiny 375 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:53.440 thing, and he has these dreams about pad Me and that's the main driver 376 00:27:55.000 --> 00:28:00.640 to the dark side. He attachment attachment to her. So he he's having 377 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:06.680 these dreams and trying to run away from destiny and is running head first into 378 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.039 destiny. Absolutely, And that's how it's usually represented in fiction too. You 379 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.759 try to you try to run from your destiny. And but I think that's 380 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.160 I think that's real life. Do you remember, oh yeah, yeah, 381 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:18.640 you remember when he first had those nightmares about pad Me dying. And then 382 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.119 he goes and he seeks counsel from Yoda, but he doesn't tell him nightmares 383 00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.599 because he's like, he can't rat on himself for you know, being Jedi 384 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.240 are not supposed to right, And he's going to Yoda, He's like, 385 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:32.920 I'm having these dreams, these nightmares, premonitions maybe about people dying. Horror, 386 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.079 and Yoda says death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those 387 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.640 around you who transform into the forest. We must learn to let go of 388 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.319 our control. You know, it's like it's it's I mean, come on. 389 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:52.200 So so one of the most like famous quotes from Yoda in the whole 390 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.640 Star Wars series is when it might have been in two, or it might 391 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.559 have been in three, but I don't I don't remember seeing that last night. 392 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.839 But he says, fear leads to anger, Anger leads to hate, 393 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:08.119 hate leads to suffering. These are the dark side of the Force. He 394 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:14.960 might have actually said that in the in the original movies, anger, anger, 395 00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.559 hate, hate leads to suffering. Dude. And here is the crazy 396 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:26.000 thing. You literally, throughout the six movies see Anakin go through all of 397 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:32.119 those. He is afraid to lose the people he loves, which leads him 398 00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:37.160 into anger. He starts murdering the Tuscan Raiders, and he'll do anything to 399 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.160 prevent pad May from dying, which Sidius tells him. Palpatine tells him, 400 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.680 You're gonna have to go and slaughter all the Jedi and the former Master. 401 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.759 Yeah, then you'll be more. Then you'll be powerful enough. And that 402 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:55.759 that mentality of Anakin having to like cut his emotions off and just brutally slaughter 403 00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:02.039 people that led him into that deep hate and and then look where it ended 404 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:07.759 up. His best friend cut all of his limbs off and burned him in 405 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.920 a magma lake. And he is he is a walking like he's you know, 406 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.240 they said, Obi Wan says he's more machine now than man, Like 407 00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.400 he is living in a state of pure agony and suffering. I thought about 408 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.000 that like karma being manifested, you know. But like I thought of a 409 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.759 few things in that moment that reminds me of It's totally not related to Star 410 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.799 Wars, but it's the same thing, you know, same esoteric message when 411 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.799 a Tachi tells Saske, like you have to kill your best friend to develop 412 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.960 your mom get your sharing gun. But you know, if we're thinking about 413 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:41.799 this from a syncretic or syncretistic standpoint of like looking at these mythologies, you 414 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.839 say, Star Wars is a mythology, you know, and and we're extracting 415 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:52.759 the spiritual data, the spiritual wisdom that's like hidden beneath the core. It's 416 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.440 like the symbolism there is like I think Alex's theory is correct, you know. 417 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:02.000 It's like, you know, Anakin is Anakin is not only the story 418 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:06.079 of man, but it's also like the story of the path to enlightenment, 419 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.880 and it shows you both sides. It shows you like if you take the 420 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.839 left hand, the left hand path, which is a service to self. 421 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:21.279 You know, he's selfishly disobeying the good and the will of the macro cosm 422 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:26.880 to further his own power for his own selfish material game. But it was 423 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.480 for pad Ma, well, no, it wasn't. It was for himself. 424 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.079 For him, he said he didn't know how to live without her. 425 00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.359 He killed her. Yeah, he killed her that nightmare he had, he 426 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:40.559 manifested it through his selfishness evil. He choked her. He choked her pregnant 427 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.599 like like he he literally killed her Yoda or obi wan literally no nossidious at 428 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.119 the intels, it seems anger, you've killed his anger killed, yeah, 429 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:52.559 which he manifested his nightmare because he took the left hand. Well, he 430 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.480 was having nightmares of his destiny. But again, you know, it's like 431 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.960 the free will thing. It's like right hand path first, left hand path. 432 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.079 And that's what I love about Anakin because then you know, we we 433 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.960 know that, like we're constantly reincarnating upwards and learning lessons in between lives. 434 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.599 I know that he's just living one life. But it's it's it's it's symbolism 435 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.240 here, right, So let me interrupt you real quick because we're we're really 436 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.759 close. So in episode three, he walks under the Jedi Temple to slay 437 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.240 all the Jedi, right, Ryan, what the cross? The symbol of 438 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:30.799 the cross the c And when he walks into that temple, he is walking 439 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:37.640 across the matter access so he is walking the path of man being material and 440 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:43.240 attached into the Jedi Temple before he kills all the Jedi. Yeah dude, 441 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:46.799 yeah, So so now that you've had time to process episode three, what 442 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.599 did you think about it? I want to back up real quick. I 443 00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.319 got a note on okay, bat bat bat, let's go back to one. 444 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:55.920 Yeah, okay, so that's the Dual Fates, right, yep. 445 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:04.920 So obviously fantastic battle, great choreography, whatever. But I thought after watching 446 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:10.279 this, I was like, what a great snapshot and just if you wanted 447 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:14.279 to know about the dark Side and one battle, that's the battle to watch 448 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:23.519 it. Because he essentially kills h no help me, and his lightsaber is 449 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:29.279 sitting next to him, and then Obi Wan is hanging he Darth Maul kicks 450 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:35.079 the blue lightsaber off the ledge. Now this is where faster, easier, 451 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.160 more seductive comes into play. But he didn't think it all the way through 452 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:45.240 because Quigan's Lightsaber is still there, so he is so wrapped up in what 453 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.119 he's doing in the moment. Darth Maul is because he's a Sith, he 454 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.519 doesn't realize the long term that the other lightsaber is over here, and that 455 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:59.440 is his downfall because Obi Wan jumps up grabs the other lightsaber becomes the master 456 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:04.119 switching colors. Yeah, yeah, like that's obvious master saber. Yes, 457 00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.440 that's the obvious one. But I just thought the whole Darth Maul did not 458 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:13.679 think it through to be very foreshadowing to the to the Sith. Well, 459 00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:17.320 that's how the Sith. That's how the Sith fight like passion exactly, they 460 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.960 look inward. They react with passion. They like they exalt their emotions. 461 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:28.679 They they it's their like, it's it's their driving force. Is they're not 462 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.480 they're not processing as well as the gen that's illustrated with in the third movie 463 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:37.199 when when Lord City starts fighting, he's like he's like he's like geeking out, 464 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.119 he's loving it. He's like licking his lips. Yeah, it's it's 465 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.360 emphasizing his lust, his his kind of like, you know, not to 466 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:49.039 be inappropriate, but it kind of like orgasmic desire to slaughter these gens, 467 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.320 like blood lust. He's right, it's it's really really creepy. But the 468 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:59.199 amazing thing is the Jedi. The way that they fight is they literally just 469 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:04.000 let go, let go of everything and let the They let the Force guide 470 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.320 their blade. I mean, look at Luke his first training with a lightsaber, 471 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:13.239 blindfolded him, and you just gotta your feeling. You gotta feel the 472 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.039 force. You have to feel where the Force is trying to guide you before 473 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.840 we get too far. I wanted to bring something to Alex's attention that he 474 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.119 might not have like clicked on his first watch through. So in episode four, 475 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.079 right, Obi Wan and Darth Vader are fighting and you see this moment. 476 00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:30.519 It's not explicit, doesn't say it out loud, but you can gather 477 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.239 the context here from all six movies. The Jedi that are powerful enough in 478 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.039 the Force, they can sense the future. I mean, you saw it 479 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:38.599 last night in the third movie Mace Windows, like I sense a plot from 480 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.159 the Sid to destroy the Jedi. Yoda's like I sensed this, I said. 481 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.679 You know, they can they can feel into the future in a listed 482 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.000 way. One knew that Darth was going to kill him. Obi Wan knew 483 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:52.159 that that had to happen for the Luke to progress through his destiny. Absolutely, 484 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.639 But but where did we see that again? Episode one? Qui gone, 485 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.000 he meditated, He sat there and he meditated, and he allow Darth 486 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:06.480 Maul to strike him down because exactly mirroring you know, Obie's Obi one repeated 487 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.280 the same fate that his master repeated for him. Yeah, and both times 488 00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.559 like they they knew, like my death will be a sacrifice for my pupil 489 00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:19.679 to become the master and and fulfill the destiny. Yeah you and it's very 490 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.440 subtly done in self sacrifice. Yeah, it's subtly done in episode one. 491 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:29.039 But if you watch when Quigan is fighting Darth Maul, right before he gets 492 00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:31.880 stabbed in the gut, he stops for a second, let him pauses, 493 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:37.079 and he makes a face like oh, he like fully realizes in that moment 494 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.679 like, okay, here it is, I gotta I have to I have 495 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.360 to let myself die. And the sixth process of that is the inversion. 496 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:46.639 Yeah, they kill their masters in their sleep and all this and that it's 497 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.159 it's beautiful. The illustration of like the right hand path, which is, 498 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:57.360 in simple terms, it is service to others, you know, you you 499 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.400 you know, self sacrifice, not literally in yourself, but you know, 500 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.639 helping others, compassion versus the left hand path, service to self, lust 501 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.199 for power, lust for gain, greet you know all that. The illustrate 502 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:14.360 there's nothing better, you know, Like Star Wars nails it. Yeah, 503 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.840 And and like the way that they describe the Force too, Like if you 504 00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.199 read some of the deep lore of Star Wars, like when when a Sith 505 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:29.239 and a Jedi are clashing, like it's just the Force working itself out. 506 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.199 It's already pre written what's going to happen. Yeah, they're they're they're really 507 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:37.599 just kind of like automatically following the Force's will without even knowing it. They're 508 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:45.199 just the physical representation of what's happening in the astral realm or in the Force 509 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:50.880 realm or whatever. So Anakin's journey, the will of the Force, the 510 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:57.199 what the will of the Force. Everything that happened was, dude, the 511 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:04.079 Force spit out a guy. The Force literally was like you have to be 512 00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.960 here, and like like he yeah, everything was pre written. The more 513 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:12.039 you watch the movies, too, the more mind blowing it gets because you 514 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.440 see so many things you haven't noticed. Oh, like, it's it's crazy, 515 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.360 man. Yeah, I mean the Force literally spit out a guy. 516 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:24.039 And you know, there's a lot of theories that you're you're downplaying Shmi again. 517 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.239 What do you mean the Force spit out a guy. I mean, 518 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.880 dude, it's immaculate conception. Like literally literally, I'm just messing with you. 519 00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:43.159 There's theories that Plagas was the one that put put Anakin in Schmid, 520 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.519 which I don't I don't know, but I mean, hey, it could 521 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.880 have been. It could be it could be the Force working through Plagas to 522 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.679 do that. Who knows, but I wanted to highlight something, just just 523 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:58.079 the concept here. Remember sometime in the last I don't remember exactly when we 524 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.000 did this episode, but it was the Karma episode. Remember, around the 525 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.800 time we did Pinocchio. I think we recorded on the same weekend and they 526 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.880 came out shortly after each other. But something that we talked about when you 527 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.159 study the laws of Karma, I think there's twelve laws. It's like anything 528 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:15.960 that is truly good and that is truly selfless, and that is bred from 529 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:21.199 compassion and like right living, right intention in the cosmic you know, like 530 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.920 not in the individual micro scale, like I live seventy years and poof f 531 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.840 I'm gone, But like in the cosmic scheme of things, anything that has 532 00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.800 manifested through goodness takes a much longer time because it's permanent. It is a 533 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.639 more subtle change over the long term for things to manifest. And I just 534 00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:44.079 think about it, like the galaxy was enslaved by the Emperor for I mean, 535 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.159 we can speculate it was thirty or forty years, you know, between 536 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.519 all of this starting in the first movie to Luke, you know, defeating 537 00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:55.440 them in episode six. It's it's it's not super long. But but at 538 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.840 the end of it all it was balanced out and light was brought on the 539 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.119 people. But think about like individual daily life. You know, you see 540 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.159 people like I mean, I don't want to like bring hate on anybody name 541 00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.559 dropping. You know, like you think about people like Jeff Bezos or like 542 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:13.719 Bill Gates or like these ultra billionaires trillionaires who have and this is a very 543 00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.400 rudimentary example, but you have people in life who have made great fortune in 544 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.559 great fame and great recognition for themselves and great luxury by stepping on other people. 545 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:28.039 Yeah, it's that left hand path that Sith service to self lifestyle. 546 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:30.280 And then you have people that you know, you know, everybody knows somebody 547 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.480 who's just such a kind, modest, loving soul, and sometimes you're just 548 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.559 like they're just barely making it. Yeah, you know, I think about 549 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.880 like mom and pop businesses that just go out of their way to take care 550 00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.760 of the people that are there for them. Yeah, you know what I 551 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:50.039 mean in correlations to your Jeff Bezos Amazon, And like it clearly illustrated in 552 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.079 the movie that Sidious was in terms of like raw battle power. I mean, 553 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:58.199 sure his battle with Yoda was technically a stalemate technically, you know, 554 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.639 but like even Yoda was telling over one like you're not powerful enough to defeat 555 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:04.519 him. It goes out of its way to explain to you that, you 556 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.880 know, two Sith can take on all the Jedi. There's so much more 557 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.880 like raw destructive power. But like you know, in the end, they 558 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.800 lose. Yeah, the good takes this much longer time of all of these 559 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:22.079 devoted neophytes and disciples, like surrendering their control and their will to the will 560 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:24.239 of the higher power God or in this case, the force, and letting 561 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:30.440 it slowly and suddenly work out the events of you know, the every day 562 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.639 in the micro and the macro for it to be balanced forever. Yeah. 563 00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.920 You see, you see what I'm getting at here. It's like the good 564 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.400 takes time to manifest. Yeah, Yoda. Yoda describes that in episode five, 565 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.400 and it's probably the thing that I quote the most on the show. 566 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.320 When he says the dark side is quicker, easier, and more seductive. 567 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.719 He means that, but it destroys you. Oh yeah, but it'll destroy 568 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.880 you. I mean, he means that it is quicker. Like you know, 569 00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.239 we make examples. We talk about people in the real world who have 570 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.400 dark intentions and will twist this occult knowledge and do really bad, fucked up 571 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:12.440 dings, dark dark things, UH to as like a quick catalyst to make 572 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:16.920 big, magical things happen, big thing manifestations happen in their real lives. 573 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.320 You know that might be who knows, that might be why you know some 574 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.760 of the some of the messed up things you see happening on the news you 575 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.320 never know. You really never know. I mean even even in the olden 576 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.920 days, in the medieval times, they were sacrificing. You know, even 577 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:38.039 in the Bible, they're sacrificing people good and bad, sacrificing people to make 578 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:44.760 magic happen, to make things happen quickly. It's quicker, it's easier because 579 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:49.159 it doesn't take as long, and it's more seductive because it's like addictive. 580 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.840 It's like when you start, i mean quick results. Look at Anakin. 581 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.320 Look at it. His eyes are turning yellow. Did you notice that alex 582 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.159 as Anakin is becoming vader His eyes are turning yellow, like sidious is He's 583 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:05.800 getting that power immediately from just like turning off his emotions and he's basically like 584 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.199 ritually sacrificing people. I mean, you know, if you think out of 585 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.360 the box about it, Yeah, that's not so far out of the box. 586 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.360 Yeah, but you know again, it's like you have the Jedi on 587 00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:21.159 the other hand, who from childhood devote their entire lives to being an acolyte 588 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:27.519 of this this faith based, merit based system where they devote themselves to the 589 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.000 will of the God, force and goodness and the light, and they spend 590 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.360 their whole lives like what's so cool about the Jedi is at every waking moment 591 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.239 according to their tenant. It's like you have to be calm and neutral and 592 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:44.679 not have attachments to anything. Literally Buddhism like Zinm Buddhism or Tibetan Buddhism. 593 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.880 Straight up, it's Buddhism. It's crazy. It's like rainbow body, like 594 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:51.480 they're they're they're trying to achieve rainbow body, and they do. They go 595 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.400 into the ghosts. Yeah, straight up, they merge with the force. 596 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.719 What are you gonna say? I was just gonna say. The moral of 597 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.960 the story is, do not fall in love with politicians, no matter how 598 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.719 good looking they are. Do not do it. You think that was the 599 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.800 main problem. Also, don't seduce as in monk. Yeah, yeah, 600 00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:14.440 exactly. Yeah, there you go. What about that? You have any 601 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:20.920 notes on episode two? Yeah? Yeah, because full two third eye headset? 602 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:27.639 What that's what I wrote down When uh Obi Wan's in the screw Cruiser. 603 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.079 The headset that they wear while they're in the ship flying, I don't 604 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:37.239 remember this part touches their third eye and then it goes down to their to 605 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.679 their so they're driving the ship with their third eye essentially, which like which 606 00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.039 planet? What did it look like in any of the cruisers they got in. 607 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.800 Yeah, like this like the Okay, I haven't seen episode two in 608 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:50.559 just a few years, so I can't. Well even in three, even 609 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.000 in three when they're the heading in their ships in space, Yeah, when 610 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.719 they're flying into grievous ship, he's wearing this third eye, like this headset 611 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.000 that stops at the third eye, right, dude, It's so crazy. 612 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.360 I'm just remembering. Like you know, there's so much that happens throughout Star 613 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:10.280 Wars, but even even in episode four, you can see the Force like 614 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.719 manifesting its will. Like even at the very end of the fourth one, 615 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.960 when Luke has to like close his eyes and meditate to shoot down into that 616 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.320 vega, do you know what I'm realizing? Yeah? Yeah, Well I 617 00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.639 don't want to cut you off. That's a great point. Do you remember 618 00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:30.320 in in four when he's supposed to be training with Yoda. Luke is supposed 619 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.719 to be training with Yoda. That's five. Yoda doesn't come in I'm sorry 620 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.519 five, and he's like, no, my friends are in trouble. I 621 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:44.159 have to leave. That's so similar to his father. I mean, think 622 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:46.639 about it all the times, like when Padmey got pushed out of the helicopter, 623 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:52.679 fell out of the helicopter, and he's flying into the building to mess 624 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.559 up grievous yeah, or not grievous some uh dooku and he's like, we 625 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.199 have to go back for padme Yeah, but or or in like, dude, 626 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.360 he's exactly like he's I mean, in so many ways he is, 627 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:09.800 you know, and originally, like there are some moments in the original trilogy 628 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:16.519 where you kind of see Luke on a teetering point where he could start to 629 00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:20.360 go towards the dark side, especially in Return of the Jedi. Yes, 630 00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.559 when he's fighting Vader exactly, he overwhelms him with power, and Sidious is 631 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:31.400 like, yeah, he's like he feels Luke's anger and it's and like I 632 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:37.719 said, it's amazing that with the limited time that he had with his master, 633 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.440 that he was able to not be seduced. And then I think that 634 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.480 Darth Vader saw that and said and knew, I mean, he knew it 635 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:52.000 was his kid. Darth Vader saw him not get seduced the way that he 636 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.519 was and then had that soft moment and then killed Sidius. Yeah yeah, 637 00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:02.079 and then like come on the moment moment when he's like dying and Luke's like, 638 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.760 we have to get you out of here, and he's like no, 639 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.039 it's too late, and he's like I gotta save you, and Darth Vader's 640 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:12.440 like you already have. Oh. It's also again, it's like what we 641 00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.840 talked about in I think the Akira episode where it's like Akira went to the 642 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.199 dark path, but then in the end he's still ascended to God consciousness. 643 00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.159 Tetsuo, Yeah, yeah, not Akira, but you know in that episode, 644 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.880 Darth Vader he takes this dark path, but then at the end he's 645 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.039 he's he's still redeemable, and honestly, you know, you can't even really 646 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.960 imagine what would have happened if he didn't do that. But that truly is 647 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:38.920 the way that it had to shake out. I mean, they make that 648 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:44.199 clear like force, and it just makes me think of religion, like, 649 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.079 you know, you could be Darth Vader, you could be you could be 650 00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.840 out there, you could be worse than Darth Vader, and you can still 651 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:58.079 be forgiven m and you can still ascend to be a force ghost. Oh, 652 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:04.079 dude, absolutely look at like Luke and pad May both at one point 653 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.280 that at different points say about Darth Vader, like there's good in him, 654 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.440 I feel it. Yeah, right before she died, Yeah, there's good 655 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.559 at Yeah, those were her dying words. There's good in him, there's 656 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.440 good in him. And then Luke when he's like face to face with Darth 657 00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.239 Vader, there's good in you. I can feel it. I feel it. 658 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:25.599 No. So she's sang that and obi Wan is holding Luke right next 659 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.480 to her. Oh shit, And I'm thinking, right, oh my god, 660 00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:37.079 he is absorbing that information even though he's an infant child. Well he 661 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.800 feels it through the force. Well yeah, but it's pretty crazy. It's 662 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.760 so poetic. It's yeah, it's symbolic, it's poetic. There are a 663 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.199 lot of moments like that in Star Wars. I want to remind you, 664 00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.440 guys, we talked about this in episode two of the podcast. I'm talking 665 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.639 like two years ago, episode two. Now, this is speculation, but 666 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.800 in Kabbala, you know, there's the ten separrot or there's the nine sepf 667 00:48:54.840 --> 00:49:00.039 rotten in the tenth which is like supposedly the convergence of all realities, and 668 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:06.119 in in in Kabala, the tenth Stephora is da daa t h which is 669 00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:09.239 the Hebrew word for knowledge or nosis. It's the special kind of knowledge that 670 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:14.400 is unique to the consciousness. So it's like imagine it being like passing through 671 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:22.199 the metaphysical doorway where the mystical invisible knowledge is received. So like, you 672 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.199 know, these these these Jedi, they get seduced to the Sith. They 673 00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:30.599 pass through this doorway of the forbidden you know, the forbidden arts, and 674 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:36.119 they receive this knowledge that is not considered acceptable by the other Jedi. I 675 00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:38.880 don't know. I wonder if he was playing on this word when creating Darth 676 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:45.599 you know yea, so essentially his name means all knowing father Darth Vader. 677 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:46.920 Yeah, I mean, yeah, you could think about it like that out 678 00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.519 of the father of its speculation. But yeah, the father of nosis. 679 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:57.199 Like it's which is like low key, some Lucifer type shit like menia, 680 00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.920 you know, like it's pretty crazy. There's It's one of those It's one 681 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.639 of those stories that like you could look at it from ten different angles and 682 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:10.440 get ten different like rich spiritual meanings from it, right, Like it's just 683 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.199 packed to the brand with allegory. I also think of Anakin's descent into Darth 684 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.679 Vader as being like the symbolic dark Knight of the Soul that we all experience 685 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.679 when we are awakening, because it's like shadow work, like when we awaken 686 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.880 to a higher reality, when when we reach a state of vibration and nosis 687 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:32.199 where we are like existentially aware that we are an immortal light being. It's 688 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.880 kind of like it's heavy at first. Oh yeah, because because we come 689 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.079 face to face with our shadow side, our traumas. I mean, it's 690 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:43.800 not easy to awaken. Now. I think Darth Vader is like very symbolic 691 00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:45.159 of that, you know, the dark Knight of the Soul. Yeah, 692 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.480 well, I mean imagine he's he you know, since he was a small 693 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.840 since he was ten years old, he just he found out about the Jedi 694 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.840 and he just wants to be a Jedi, and he's been training to control 695 00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.800 his emotions and to not feel things and not be attached none of that stuff. 696 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:06.719 And then suddenly he like starts developing feelings on his own, and it's 697 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:12.639 he's having this internal struggle between like the path of enlightenment, the spiritual path, 698 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:16.920 and the matter path. He's like he's like, it feels good to 699 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.159 be attached to these things, but I'm not supposed to be attached to these 700 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:27.199 things because I want to be a great Jedi. But it's seductive because it 701 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:32.000 feels good. It feels good in the moment. You know he's feeling Anakin 702 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:38.559 is feeling like very disrespected or like shirked by the Jedi Council, like he 703 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:43.199 doesn't matter to them, he's not important to them. Well, you know, 704 00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:45.920 they did a good job making him feel that way. They did. 705 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.400 Yeah, yeah, but they were right when they were right. They were 706 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.239 right the whole time they were They could feel it the whole time. They 707 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.320 kept saying that sense of plot, something about him not right. They were 708 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:58.320 right, he's not ready, they kept he's not ready. And it's because 709 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.639 like they probably had that little cur ern of a feeling like this could go 710 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.000 south and if it does, and it did, and it did exactly, 711 00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.440 Yeah, well did it go south? Because well it did. Yeah, 712 00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:13.079 it went south and it had to go south to go north. Well, 713 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.000 right, I mean, like destiny played out regardless. But if the if 714 00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:22.760 the Jedi Council had given him I want to say more respect, but but 715 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:30.119 really it would be more communication and more damn openness. If they would have 716 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.559 been like, look, you're not ready, and this is why not just 717 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.239 you're not ready? Sit down? Boy? Well, I mean these are 718 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.719 like old and lighten masters, and he's like a twenty something year old kid 719 00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.400 who's like trying to get buck with him. You know something, your kid 720 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.039 that could probably kick there, but I mean not really. Obi Wan humbled 721 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.360 him. And obi Wan wasn't even the most powerful one. Mace Window smacked 722 00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.880 city. Is he's by combatibility Maze Window was the peak. Yeah, he 723 00:52:55.039 --> 00:53:04.559 got. He got is literally like he's cannon the best lightsaber fighter of all 724 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.880 Jedi and Sith like, is that? How are you got a special one? 725 00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.320 No? He gotta you know the story about that? Oh my god, 726 00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:15.079 bro, this is literally how he got a purple lightsaber. Samuel L. 727 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:21.480 Jackson when they were doing the real story not like, oh listen, 728 00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:25.079 no, there is no Well they did retroactively make a lower reason as to 729 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.880 why. But Samuel L. Jackson when they were filming the second one, 730 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:31.599 he just like walked up. There's a video of it. It's an Empire 731 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:35.239 of dreams. He walks up to George Lucas and he's like, so, 732 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.800 who makes the decision on the lightsaber colors? And George is like, well, 733 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.880 the blue. The good guys are blue and green and the bad guys 734 00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:45.280 are red. And he's like, so, uh, there's no purple. 735 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.760 And George was like, we could maybe, we could maybe give you a 736 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.360 purple one, and he got a purple one. That was it. So 737 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.199 then they were like, well, he's a he's also knowledgeable in the dark 738 00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.199 arts, so he it's red mixed with blue. But like that's the real 739 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:00.079 reason. He was like, I on a purple one. Yeah, and 740 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.000 George was like that'd be dope, and they did it. Yeah. But 741 00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:10.599 but Mace windew is canonically the best lightsaber duellist of all. He's kind of 742 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.079 like the peak Jedi, like he's leading the meetings and everything, you know, 743 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.320 the only person that could like keep up with him and sparring quig Gin 744 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.960 is the only one. And then like Yoda is the strongest in the Force, 745 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:31.000 like among Jedi, but truly Darth Vader is like leagues stronger than like 746 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.320 he Darth peaked Darth Vader. Yeah, Darth Vader does things with the Force 747 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.320 that is just like it doesn't mean he he like pulls Imperial cruisers out of 748 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.039 space with the Force like he's on a different Remember in the show, the 749 00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:46.400 Obi Wan show that came out last year where he's like fighting lightsaber duels with 750 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.679 the force. That was called that was cool, dude. He was like, 751 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.519 we saw that clip he was blocking lightsabers with his hand with the force, 752 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:57.559 Like just like that was cool, bro. And then and then they're 753 00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.800 trying to escape in that ship and they're like taking off super quick and he 754 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:02.840 literally just stops him. And we should show him the clip in Rogue one 755 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:12.599 too, the hallway, bro, that you have on real bro that because 756 00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:15.880 me and my buddies watched Rogue one and then we got walkie talkies and started 757 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.280 driving around calling each other a red leader, gold leader. Okay, I 758 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.199 got let's let's geek out for a minute. Let's geek out for just a 759 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:27.000 minute. Let's just get real geeky about Star Wars Alex. You've seen all 760 00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:32.679 six. Which one's your favorite? Episode one? Yeah? Okay, episode 761 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:39.639 one? What's your favorite lightsaber battle? Uh? You tell me that LB 762 00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:47.119 one versus Anakin fight was not so good? Yeah, dude, I think 763 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.920 about this. Remember that moment when they were fighting on the table and they 764 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.559 were doing the exact same moves, so they weren't hitting each other they were 765 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:59.840 like spinning the sabers around him in the exact same formation. So it's because 766 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:05.920 he trained him, so they have the same exactly when Anakin cuts Duku's head 767 00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:09.679 off, that's that's my favorite. That was sick. I liked their fighting 768 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.239 the second movie, yeah, where like you know, they knocked the lights 769 00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.079 out and Obi Wan got beat up. So like Anakin has both their sabers 770 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:21.519 and he's fighting with two sabers in the dark and then Yoda shows up. 771 00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:24.000 Yeah, yeah, that was that just didn't have the outcome I wanted. 772 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.119 So that's why I like over your control, you know, no, I 773 00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:32.039 know, but I liked the anger and the do it Okay, Yeah, 774 00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:38.039 I mean like to my favorites are duel of fates, like like Wigan and 775 00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:44.039 Obi Wan versus Darth Maul is like on, dude, you tell me when 776 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.239 you were a kid and you watch episode one for the first time and you 777 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.320 see Darth Maul light up as lightsaber and then a second one comes out, 778 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.039 you tell me you didn't shit yourself. Oh dude, I was like six 779 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.840 years old first of all. Yeah, and I was like, oh my 780 00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.360 god, like this is the best thing I've ever seen. You can do 781 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.280 that. Yeah, he has a double one. Yeah, because you know 782 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:06.840 I'd seen four or five and six on vhs like a thousand times. Yeah. 783 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.639 Do you know what one of my issues with the seven, eight and 784 00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.840 nine are? What have you seen him? Uh? Well, I know 785 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.039 enough of them. I mean Ryan's holding one of the lightsabers from seven, 786 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:21.519 eight and nine. Yeah. And my thing is like, you are so 787 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:27.440 right that Darth Maul's lightsaber stunning. It's right ahead of its times, mind 788 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:29.840 blowing. And then They're like, oh, we could just keep doing this, 789 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:30.920 and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no no 790 00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.719 no. Not everybody gets a special one. This one's cool though, well 791 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.360 yeah it's cool. But it's like there's a lore reason as to like he 792 00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:45.079 Kylo made it like that. The thing is in in like Star Wars lore, 793 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:49.440 there actually are dual savers. There have like always been dual savers, 794 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.599 Like even in old Republic times there were there were Sith who had dual savers 795 00:57:54.360 --> 00:58:00.320 uh in different forms and fashions too. But that is like just a creation 796 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.920 of Kilos himself. He was just like his lightsaber is all fucked up, 797 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.199 like it uses a cracked kaiber crystal. So it's like very unstable, and 798 00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:13.920 he actually had to put those on the side as vents, and it's just 799 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.079 a it's just like a side effect that it happens to work as a hilt. 800 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.760 He put those on there because he uses a cracked kaiber crystal and it 801 00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.239 he had to vent it. It's kind of it's kind of crazy, like 802 00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.639 seven, eight and nine are I like them a lot? I'm wearing a 803 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.280 Force Awakened shirt right now? Uh all right, geeking out? Yes, 804 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:40.960 Ryan, what's your favorite lightsaber? Oh? Oh mmm, it's either Luke's 805 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:46.760 Green one or Obi once Yo. I like the hilt. Oh yeah, 806 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:51.880 Qui Goons is really cool. I like I love Count Dookuz. I was 807 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.000 gonna say that Count his hill is tight. It's like that curve like that 808 00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.920 crazy and and when he ignites it, he like does like down, like 809 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:04.760 he goes like in like, dude, it's so sick. I Count Duku 810 00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.320 is epic. I also like Yoda is a little dancy one. Oh yeah. 811 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:12.400 He uses a young ling's training saber like he literally, I mean he 812 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:15.440 he eventually craft had one crafted for himself, but it is a young ling 813 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:19.559 sized light saber. I ripped this quote last night when we were watching the 814 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:22.840 movie, I just thought it was so cool in terms of like magical knowledge 815 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.480 sidious. When he was seducing Anakin at that play where they're having that private 816 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.639 conversation and secret, he said, if one is to understand the Great Mystery, 817 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:37.079 one must understand and study all of its aspects. He was trying to 818 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.320 seduce him to study the dark Side. And yeah, he's not wrong, 819 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:45.440 But the Great Mystery, I mean literally, like in the dialogue they are 820 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:50.599 talking in esoteric I think of like I think of like being in the Renaissance 821 00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:54.480 era, you know, going to some to some alchemical society and they're like 822 00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:59.519 reading this this knowledge to you, you know, in order to understand the 823 00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.960 Great Story. That's that's the vibe I get from the dialogue of the Jedi 824 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:06.239 in the Sith for sure, And Alex you might not know this because it 825 01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.519 never really explicitly says it in the movie. It talks about it in the 826 01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:14.840 books and stuff. But Qui Gon is what's considered a gray Jedi, and 827 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:19.960 it's because like he is a Jedi, but he is knowledgeable in the sides 828 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.679 of the in the you know, the ways of the dark Side. And 829 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:27.760 it's interesting that he was the first one to become a Force ghost, and 830 01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:31.920 then his padawan becomes a Force Ghost, and then Padawan becomes a Force Ghost, 831 01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:37.960 and then his son becomes a Force ghost. Spoiler alert. Yeah, 832 01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:43.360 yeah, but Luke Luke becomes a Force ghost. Strange how that works. 833 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.360 Strange how that works? And Yoda too, But I mean, come on, 834 01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:50.079 we all saw that coming. Yeah, Yoda, Yoda gets what Yoda 835 01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:52.840 wants. Yes, Yoda is let us Dumbledore. You know, you know 836 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:57.639 how old Yoda is nine hundred and something. Yeah, he's like nine hundred 837 01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.239 and something years old. I don't know they're aging. Thing is crazy because 838 01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.639 like Grogu and the show is like fifty and he can't even talk. He's 839 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.639 still like a baby. We haven't even like talked about the quotes from Yoda 840 01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:12.159 that are just some mind blowing like luminous beings Are we not that well? 841 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.039 We I mean we just talked about some, but not that one. You 842 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:16.239 know, luminous beings? Are we not this crude matter? I think we 843 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.159 hit that pretty hard and in episode two, but it is like one of 844 01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.800 the most important quotes because he's basically tell light beings of the Force exactly, 845 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.559 the God Force. Yeah, he is telling Luke like, you're not this 846 01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.960 You're not this crude matter, You're not this thing. You're you're light right, 847 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.719 You're you're part of the force, and you're going to return to the 848 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:42.440 force one day. Like rejoice for those around you who have transformed into the 849 01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:47.679 force. Yeah, that they are literally like dying and reaching enlightenment, becoming 850 01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:52.320 light beings. Like it's it's so Buddhist, it's so on the nose. 851 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:57.320 Well, it's beyond you know, Buddhist is like exoteric. Sure, yeah, 852 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.320 you know we're talking more like Tibetan Buddhist or like the Atlantean wisdom tradition, 853 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.960 like the truth. You know, Buddhism is like I'm always talking about 854 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.360 Zen Buddhism, which is the more esoteric, Like those are the ones that 855 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.239 when you ascend, you become a Buddha, which is one of those little 856 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:16.440 right orbs. They're literally like cherubs. There was something else I thought of 857 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.519 a a bit ago while while we were having this conversation. It's like, 858 01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:23.119 if you think about it, Star Wars also could be interpreted as the story 859 01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.639 of Atlantis, Like, you know, we had this precursor society back in 860 01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.480 episode one, two and three, where it's like this Grand Council of you 861 01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.760 know, thousands upon thousands of Jedi with this heightened spiritual knowledge on how to 862 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.480 manipulate reality around them. And then you have this dark side who just like 863 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:45.519 the story of Atlantis goos according to Helena Blovotsky or Edgar Casey or whoever, 864 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:51.280 the story goes that there are people who are seduced by the egotistical uses of 865 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:55.159 magic, right, and they enact a war between the two and there's like 866 01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:01.559 this cataclysmic type event where the precursor society is wiped out. But you know, 867 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:06.760 there's vestiges of the society that survive in secret and hold on to this 868 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:10.159 knowledge and pass it down to initiates in secret, you know, in the 869 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:15.519 sense that we have Obi Wan and Yoda who are teaching Luke the new Initiate. 870 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.840 But then, you know, as real human history goes, the dark 871 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.920 Side, for whatever reason, retained power over the macro and the form of 872 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:27.199 the empire. Well we have you know, whoever's in control of the world 873 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.280 today since the times of Babylon and even before. It's like if you know, 874 01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:35.079 and then there's a there's an age in the movie it's only thirty or 875 01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:37.840 forty years later, but there's an age where this initiate comes forth, this 876 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.000 knowledge begins to spread again. The Empires defeated, and then they live in 877 01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.239 an age apiece. Yeah, it's like the return to the old Atlantean society. 878 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.280 Yeah, yeah, that's that's cool. That's cool. Way thing about 879 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.480 it. I want to us say one other thing completely unrelated to that too. 880 01:03:52.960 --> 01:04:02.400 It's very interesting to me how the illusion of safety led all of this, 881 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:09.679 especially in episode three, lad everything down this very very dark path because 882 01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:14.639 Anakin is going out of his way to do all of these things to ensure 883 01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:19.360 Padmey's safety. I mean it's it's it's selfish, but it's like she must 884 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:26.400 be safe, she must be mine forever. And then the Republic is turning 885 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:30.519 into a dictatorship because they're trying to keep everybody safe. Well it's the thing. 886 01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:35.239 Yeah, that's a fantastic point, but it's also sorry to cut you 887 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:41.639 off. It's also like you have to step outside of safety to grow. 888 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.559 You have to go stand up on your own and walk with your own two 889 01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.079 feet and grow. I act, be yourself. I have a perfect parallel 890 01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:56.280 to that. Think about the Jedi and the Fifth Like you think the whole 891 01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.679 time, Like the Jedi are the good guys, the Sith of the bad 892 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.480 guys, and that's it, the Sith evil or whatever. But like it's 893 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:06.239 much more nuanced than that. And think about Luke, like you just said, 894 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:12.280 somebody eventually has to step outside and mix things up a little bit. 895 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:18.840 What is it that ultimately led Luke to allowing Vader to fulfill his prophecy. 896 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:23.440 It was his love and care for his father, which a Jedi is not 897 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.280 supposed to have. A Jedi is not supposed to have feelings and emotions and 898 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:31.400 attachments and stuff like that. Like, so the Sith look at the Jedi 899 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:38.760 as these dogmatic robot dogs that have no emotion and they're just mindless and they're 900 01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:43.320 serving this like mindless purpose or whatever. And you know, the Jedi look 901 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.639 at the Syth and they see these like over emotional, over zealous, like 902 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.960 power hungry, whatever. But it is more nuanced than that. And that 903 01:05:51.239 --> 01:05:57.559 cycle didn't get broken until Luke showed up, learned the ways of the Force, 904 01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.440 learned the ways of the Jedi, and said, but it is still 905 01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:05.119 important for me to care about my father, like it is I can have 906 01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:15.920 some attachment that is the love and the compassion that the Jedi were maybe abusing 907 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:24.320 or neglecting. Yeah, missing exactly because they have compassion to a certain extent, 908 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.480 Like they do things self selflessly, but they're very but they so sorry, 909 01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.119 No, they do things selfless. So like when Padmey fell out of 910 01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:39.000 the helicopter, that is the perfect example exactly, because it's like, no, 911 01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:43.079 we must remain on the mission. But it also would have been really 912 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:45.199 nice to rescue her. Yeah, Like it would have been selfless to rescue 913 01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:48.480 her, and it would have also been selfless to go and try to destroy 914 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:55.800 Dooku. So you are then making the conscious decision to put the mission over 915 01:06:56.159 --> 01:07:00.880 the feelings. And it's amazing because Anakin, it was struggling with the same 916 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:05.960 thing. He was struggling with the same like I'm getting no help, exact, 917 01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:10.360 no help at all, And he was like, I'm supposed to be 918 01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.159 a Jedi, but I feel like I need to be caring about this stuff 919 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:17.280 too. He just let his resentment, his fear, his anger get the 920 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:21.000 better of him, and he went all the way into the deep end with 921 01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:26.199 it, all the way to the dark. Whereas Luke saw what his father 922 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.920 became, he saw the example of the thing that he did not want to 923 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.599 be, which it's interesting, it's a parallel to generational trauma. A lot 924 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:36.519 of us grow up with, well, I don't say us, I don't 925 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:39.679 have a fucked up dad. I love you, Dad, You're the best. 926 01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:45.360 But you know, sometimes you have a father and they are not always 927 01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.039 an example of what you think a good father should be, or an example 928 01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:55.239 like a good positive role model. Luke saw his father as the thing he 929 01:07:55.360 --> 01:08:00.239 did not want to become, and he saw his shortcomings. He felt the 930 01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.960 good invader, he felt his intentions, and he made the connection of where 931 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:11.559 Vader fell short, so he was able to find the right balance. It's 932 01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.639 like the new way, like letting go of the old dogma and going forward 933 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:17.199 with the knowledge, but also like you know, still having the compassion for 934 01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:23.720 his Yeah, I love that father analogy too, because it's like, I 935 01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:29.880 don't think anyone has a perfect father, nobody, no, especially We've talked 936 01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:32.479 about it a lot. That's true. That's true. We've talked about it 937 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:38.439 a lot. And it's like if you could be if you just be a 938 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.960 little bit better, if you be everything your dad is and a little bit 939 01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.880 better, then you're doing good. Absolutely, you know what I mean, 940 01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:49.079 Like if you you learn from the wrongs, Yes, and Luke learned from 941 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.760 the wrongs. He was having the same internal struggle as his father, and 942 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:58.279 he knew that. He recognized that, he knew that that's what led Anakin 943 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.159 to the dark side, and so he had all he had to do was 944 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:06.039 make one little course correction, one little thing. Anakin did all the groundwork 945 01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:11.039 for him. It was supposed to happen, right, That's why it was 946 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.840 supposed to happen, so that when Luke finally came around, he had an 947 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:20.439 example of what not to be and how not to slip into that seductive dark 948 01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:26.239 side path, and everything became balanced. Really really cool ritual symbolism when when 949 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:30.239 you look at like ancient mystery traditions that would have rituals, you know that 950 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.279 are like reenactments of the great Mystery. They have colors and it's usually white, 951 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:38.520 red and black and white. It's the color you usually see it on 952 01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.960 like, you know, you think about it in modern recognizable terms. Who 953 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.720 wears white abride? Right, It's the symbolism of purity in a sense. 954 01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:48.520 But you know, in ritual symbolism, it's like you're pure, you are 955 01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.880 you are ignorant to the knowledge of the great mystery. So when neophytes would 956 01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.680 appear, I've been through a fraternity ritual which was like silly, you know, 957 01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:58.560 I was eighteen years old. I didn't know what I was getting into. 958 01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:00.920 They were those togas. You know, you always see it when when 959 01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:04.880 when people enter into these mystery systems, you wear white. It's innocence, 960 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:09.560 it's purity, and then there's red. You know, you see, like 961 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:14.640 red robes would symbolize like descending into the mystery. It's often depicted as like 962 01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:17.760 the blood spilled from sacrifice, but it's symbolic of like doing the work, 963 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.760 the transformation. It could be the fire, the alchemical fire that's transforming you. 964 01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:26.520 But then also in this in this ritual color symbology, you have the 965 01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:30.720 color black, which is usually worn by the initiated masters. You see depictions 966 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:33.560 of you know, you can go look up old photographs depicting the mysteries rituals 967 01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:39.079 where the the ones dispensing the mystery, where black robes. Even in our 968 01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:42.119 fraternity, which was modeled on Freemasons, just like that. And it's funny 969 01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:45.159 because in episode four, Luke is wearing white. He's this innocent little kid, 970 01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.600 and then in Return of the Jedi, motherfucker rolls up in a black 971 01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:54.119 all suit, all black head and he's he's the Master. It's the Return 972 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:59.920 of the Jedi Master. It's I mean, I mean, it's just cool. 973 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:04.960 And we talked about my white shirts ever on the show. So if 974 01:11:05.039 --> 01:11:09.640 you guys notice, you guys change. We record three in one day, 975 01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:13.239 and you guys change between each episode to give some sort of illusion. So 976 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.560 I said, you know, I'm not going to pack three shirts every time 977 01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:19.640 we come records. So I'm just gonna wear white shirts every time except for 978 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:24.399 one time. And if you can find that episode and if you comment which 979 01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:27.239 episode it is, I'll like give you a high five or something. So 980 01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:36.199 I wear white every show, and wearing white allows you to give off your 981 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:42.279 vibration easier, but also receive vibrations. You are receptive to energy, So 982 01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.039 if you walk in a room and everybody's happy and you're wearing white, you 983 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:49.039 are like, it's easier for you to accept that energy. Same thing with 984 01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:53.600 if they're feeling bad, which is why you wear black to a funeral, 985 01:11:54.119 --> 01:12:00.600 because black guards your own. You are not accepting other people's energy. Wearing 986 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:04.159 black, you are guarding your energy, whereas white as passive when it comes 987 01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.760 to energy and being around people. But basically you're saying you're like a pure 988 01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:14.399 little dumb idiot that doesn't know the ways of the mystery traditions. Yes, 989 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:19.079 kid, which is why I love your every week and I take notes. 990 01:12:19.720 --> 01:12:23.079 Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's cool though, right, A 991 01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:27.239 fantastic freaking job, you beautiful man. You You'll notice in a lot of 992 01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.840 movies that have like mythological symbolism, the person is like wearing white by the 993 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.239 end the world black. Yeah, yeah, you totally. It's cool. 994 01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:38.399 Even in even in uh Bro, when we first see Anakin, he's wearing 995 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:42.199 his like little dirty white clothes and then in episode three he's all, well 996 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:45.520 he's Darth Vader. He's all black. I love that kid, Anakin. 997 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.399 I love that kid. Yeah, you know the true story behind that kid? 998 01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:53.359 Do we not watch it? It's very kid, not the character, 999 01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:59.000 the actor. It's very Yeah, it's it's terrible. He got like unrelentingly 1000 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.800 bullied in her rast. You know, you're a terrible actor. That movie 1001 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:05.800 sucked, like going to school and like do he it was? It's there. 1002 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:10.720 You should look it up. He has like he it like ruined his 1003 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.319 life well and it and it could have been as a result of this or 1004 01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:18.319 not. But since then he's like been diagnosed with schizophrenia, like yeah, 1005 01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:23.199 yeah, and even he has said in interviews like, yeah, I think 1006 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:27.039 it was really traumatic for me and it it messed something up like in my 1007 01:13:27.159 --> 01:13:30.239 head and for a long time, which I I've seen things lately that he's 1008 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:34.279 finally doing better now. And dude, because I watched it, same yeah, 1009 01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.880 same thing happened with the actor who played jar Jar Binks. He he 1010 01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:44.159 got so much hate that he was you know, he was like and then 1011 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:53.359 they said, after episode one, we got to scale this back. I 1012 01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:57.039 did too. I had a jar Jar Binks sleeping bag as a Key's funny. 1013 01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:00.640 Dude, he's hilarious. I'm shamed to admit that three four, five, 1014 01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:05.000 and six, I like I thought three po was annoying. What yeah, 1015 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:11.680 you He's just he's just a nerd man, Like he's just like scared 1016 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.479 of everything he knows. But isn't that like a real personality that I should 1017 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.479 like potentially exist in a group of people want to I want to back myself. 1018 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:23.960 Isn't that a real kind of person I'm gonna back myself up. They 1019 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:30.239 did such a phenomenal job with the droids. Yes, what they're thinking, 1020 01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.520 what they're feeling, They convey emotion. There are peoples and sounds. Yeah 1021 01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:38.880 yeah yeah. And I'm struggling because for a long time I had the mando 1022 01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:44.840 mentality of no droids. Oh yeah, So I'm kind of on the fence 1023 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.960 about that because like, R two phenomenal piece of equipment. Oh yeah, 1024 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.880 are two, but they're people and they're not just aqui. What do you 1025 01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:58.119 think about episode three when are two straight up scrapped those two Super Battle droids? 1026 01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:01.800 Remember he like poured oil and then said he just straight up scrapped him. 1027 01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.880 I liked when he broke him out of They said aren't you now and 1028 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:11.159 he like shocked a bunch of Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Art is a 1029 01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.279 little badass. Yeah well, I mean he shoots Luke's lightsaber Adam in episode 1030 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:19.880 six. Yep, And I love I love how the droids came into Luke's 1031 01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:24.920 life. Oh yeah, like that was beautifully Now it's fate, it was, 1032 01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:30.359 well, destiny, it was. Yeah, the destiny is fate. 1033 01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:32.800 Fate is when you come face to face with your destiny. In that moment. 1034 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:35.840 Yeah, like it would be fate that you know, it's my destiny 1035 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:39.840 to do X y Z. But fate is when I step off the train 1036 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.319 and so and so is right there face to face with me, helping me 1037 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.920 fulfill my squares, the same thing. They go hand in hand. Yeah, 1038 01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.079 you know. Yeah, Hey, guys, I think we did it. 1039 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.840 That was amazing. No more questions for me, I mean you got 1040 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:58.880 anything. Who's your favorite character and why is it? Pad me? Well, 1041 01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:03.239 it's not Fay badman. It's just my favorite character, my favorite character. 1042 01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:08.800 Like ultimately, if I had to choose it, would it's gotta be 1043 01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:14.960 Yoda. Like Yoda, it's Yoda, like he's he's the best. But 1044 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.359 also, like like I said earlier, Darth Vader is legitimately the best written 1045 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:23.520 villain of all time, the people's villain. And I have like and I 1046 01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:27.760 love Anakin and I love watching Anakin, but like when Darth Vaders in that 1047 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.600 full suit bruh, and it's James Earl Jones talking, let's move fasta by 1048 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:41.039 the way, yeah, the Lion King. It's dope. Anyway, shout 1049 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.079 out to all the moms. You just shout out who didn't answer you're playing 1050 01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:49.119 with your lights, says I've never been able to decide my entire life between 1051 01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:53.800 Obi Wan and Luke. It's one of those two. I just I can't 1052 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:59.279 commit. I mean, they're they're both like truly incredible characters. Obi Wan 1053 01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:01.399 is ride up there for me. I mean, he's one of the best 1054 01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:05.479 Jedi that ever lived. Without him, it would have never And also, 1055 01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:13.680 let's get the record straight. Obi Wan never lost everyt to Anakin, to 1056 01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.680 anyone really well, he lost a couple, like to Douku in episode two, 1057 01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:20.600 right, yeah, but he never lost to Anakin when when they fought 1058 01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:25.880 an episode four, he let him win. He and and hey, Alex, 1059 01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:28.840 you watched that Obi Wan show. You'll get to see him fight again. 1060 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:30.439 Yeah, you'll get you'll get to see them fight again. If you 1061 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.520 don't want to commit to you know, six episodes or whatever, at least 1062 01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:39.000 watched the fight. Super it is. It is super cut, wrenching. 1063 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:42.399 Yeah it is. It's amazing. I cried like a baby. They got 1064 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.680 Hayden Christenson back just for that. They did, Yes, yes, dude. 1065 01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:51.239 And they even show flashbacks in it of him when he had like his 1066 01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:57.399 Padawan braid. And it's Hayden Christiansen's he's older dude, and he's about to 1067 01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:00.239 be in the Asoka Show that I think that just came out. I think 1068 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:04.680 it's out that this morning. Hayden Christensen's in it. That's awesome. Yeah, 1069 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.800 yeah, yeah, I'm so glad we got to do this. Me 1070 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:13.920 too. This was so awesome And everybody, every single one of our listeners. 1071 01:18:14.039 --> 01:18:15.960 I have a call to action for you now. I need you all 1072 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:20.600 to reach out to Alex through any forms. Could be the comments, it 1073 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:24.439 could be the comments, it could be, it could be anywhere, and 1074 01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:31.199 tell him that next we're doing Lord of the Rings because Alex has never seen 1075 01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:36.520 Lord of the Rings and we have to do this same thing with Lord of 1076 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:40.039 the Rings. So can't wait for that. You guys all look forward to 1077 01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:43.640 it. It's gonna happen coming soon next year or two. Yes, that's 1078 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.039 fine, that's fine. We'll wait, we will wait. We'll happily wait. 1079 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:50.720 Those movies are hype. Alex has no clue, dude, just like 1080 01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:58.760 the raw masculine between millions of troops, like big, badass muscle dudes with 1081 01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:00.640 swords. But that is al h. I know Alex is the Lord of 1082 01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:05.239 the Yeah, the cave trolls and the yeah dude, it's it's we're gonna 1083 01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:09.520 do that. We're gonna do that. Thank you in advance, Alex for 1084 01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:13.720 agreeing to it. All right, let's get out of here. May the 1085 01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:16.279 Force be with you all. May the force and remember, luminous beings? 1086 01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:27.479 Are we not this crude matter? Ready? Three? Two one by Weird 1087 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:39.560 Things happened in the backyard Blitzo House. Yeah over, I got so weird, 1088 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:49.520 kind of closer to her, like filing on the inside of it. 1089 01:19:53.199 --> 01:20:18.399 No one knows. Wow, come, I never did ever Sie begetting heavy