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That's a cool sound, cronas And
we're going to talk to the man

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behind the song in just a moment. Welcome everybody. It is our number

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et cetera, et cetera. It
is Saturday, February ten, twenty

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twenty four, and making his return
to the program. It's been a little

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while, but we've had this gentleman
on a number of times, Ray Coates,

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skyping in all the way from across
the pond. As we say,

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Ray, are you there, I
am hey, Absolutely, I'm welerful to

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be with you. Yes, it's
wonderful to be with you, and it's

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great to speak with you again.
And love that track for I. In

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my mind I was saying kronos,
but in the song it sounds like you

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pronounce it cronos. I think it's
an English thing. Matt, don't worry

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about it, all right, Very
good, very good. You say pat

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potato, I say Patato, although
I've never heard anybody say patate only in

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the song yeah or tomato. I've
only heard that in the in that that

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song too exactly. But yes,
yes. Uh. By the way,

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Rays with us via Skype, which
means the studio line is open. So

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But the best thing to do so
that we can here and enjoy your

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dulcet tones on this Saturday morning.
If you have anything for our guests,

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Raycoats, give us a call at
six O three two five six seven.

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Excuse me my allergy. I'll tell
you, I don't know what the weather's

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like their ray, but here's very
warm, and my my, it's it's

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I'm gonna have to jump in there, Matt, because it's actually really good.

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So so it's unusual to be able
to have the opportunity to say the

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weather is good here. Yeah,
so, no, it's it's it's it's

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really good here too. It's it's
very warm and uh my, uh my

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sinuses have indicated that we're having an
early spring. Oh go, yeah,

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yeah, funny enough. I'm not
a million miles away from Manchester, UK.

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Ah, yes, yeah, yeah, I'm in a place called Warrington.

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I'm actually in the recording studio today
and I thought I must share that

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with you. That Yeah, I'm
just possibly not even ten miles away there

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or thereabouts from Manchester. So we
share, we share even more in common.

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That's right, that's right. Manchester
is such a common name because here

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in the United States, there's actually
a whole bunch of Manchesters. I like

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to think of, Oh yeah,
yeah, there's a Manchester, Connecticut.

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There's a I don't know, there's
a bunch of them. There's a whole

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bunch of them, very very common
here. But I like to think we're

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the best cool and uh, ray, you've got a bunch of new music.

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You sent me several tracks. Well, uh we should be able to

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get them all in and great stuff, but we can kind of you know,

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as we talk about each one,
you can tell us you know what's

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behind each track and who who officially
is the artist on each track. Because

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you like to collaborate, and you
collaborate with a lot of people, so

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you've always got various different projects going. I can't keep it all straight,

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but so it's fortuitous that you're here. Yeah, yeah, what what can

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you tell us about that song?
Cronos or cronos. I think it's a

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I think there's an overview. What
I've experienced is expand and that's why I

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create so much with so many different
people, and I think that's an experience

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I share for others, not just
for myself, but over so on.

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The architects of passion is me in
a lot of projects I do. Generally,

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I tend to be the vocalist.
In many occasions i'm the lyricist,

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although that's not always the case.
But it's basically it's about time and for

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me, so many references to a
cronus or chronos in everyday language, chronology,

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chronometer, so many references, and
I think the message is make the

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most of the bit in between,
you know, make the most of them

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now, So it's a very very
positive message. So regardless of wherever we

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are, wherever we are supposed difference
is not a great fan of that that

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it's now, you know, the
bit in between. I was born in

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nineteen sixty five, I'm still here. I am here, and I'm aiming

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to be here for as long as
I possibly can. So it's the bit

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in between. But often, you
know, people think about the year of

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birth and an end, and I
think the message in the song is we

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are here, quite simple, so
make the most of it, make every

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moment count, And that's a very
positive message to share. No, I

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think that's a very very positive message. It's something I try to do and

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fail at consistently. Maybe I should
listen to that song more. I am

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tom. I mean, my problem, Ray is I live in a perpetual

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state of existential dread. And it's
probably not a good thing, probably not

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great. The only the only thing
I would say is there's there's grounds for

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it, so it's not it's not
unreal, is it? And I think

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I certainly wouldn't say I I live
in the opposite of that. I think

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it's just through the means I use
I just feel a very strong passion.

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That's where the passion comes from.
And connecting in enabling others. It is

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not trying to change minds or hearts
per se, just using what I've got.

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Some people some people cook. Some
people cook, you know, they

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provide beautiful meals for other people.
Some people paint. I write songs and

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sing them. I'm really dumbing it
down now, But what's behind it is

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the fuel is the desire to connect
and the desire to enable people. Because

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we live in a very very scary
world. So anything that we can do

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to help to realize there is more, There is more than that which we

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you know, we see and that
we're we're worried about. So yeah,

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keep listening to the song though,
Yeah, yeah I will, I might,

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I might might make it part of
my daily meditation. We'll see.

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No, it is, it is. It is really beautiful. And now,

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so the songs that you sent me, so you sent me for that,

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that's one of them and we'll get
the other three in. But are

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these are these collaborations with different people, because like I said, you you

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are such a prolific collaborator. It's
I I can't keep track of of of

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who you're working with on? What
are these all over Saul songs? I

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didn't they're not I didn't think so, yeah, that's the only one.

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The others are my birth name Breakoats
as a as a performer. But the

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others are even more collaboration than the
song that you've just played, shake it

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Up. And there are five versions
of the same song, so they were

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all collaborated with different people, and
the basic premises, same lyrics. An

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incredible human being in the UK,
Caroline Brown, that's fantastic with words.

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And we've collaborated a couple of times
previously, so same lyrics, same vocalist

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me, same four chord progression.
And I suppose in some ways I'm going

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to kind of be open and honest
because I feel I am with you is

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I kind of was getting a bit
tired and a bit fed up of,

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you know, this plastic way of
the music business, particularly, and I'm

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in my fifties trying to make my
way musically. I love what I do,

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but I'm kind of starting a career, I guess you could say,

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at the other end of life,
which is not usual you and I thought,

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okay, what can I do differently? So rather than thinking murmur horrible.

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You know, I wish I was
younger, you know, I would

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be able to do more. Then
I thought, no, you know,

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I need to do something a little
bit differently. So the basic idea came

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up with five versions of the same
song, all released at the same time,

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and as far as I know,
nobody has ever done that before.

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So in a way, if I'm
doing anything, I'm sharing, think outside

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the box, do things differently and
shake it up. There's Spin one,

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which I know you're going to play, Spin two, Spin three, Spin

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four, and Spin five. I'm
now with a band who is Dan So

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ours is the fifth version, and
they're all different because they would they would

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be because they're all different people and
different collaborations. And I just I'm doing

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that. I'm shaking it up,
creating a reform in in my own way.

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You know what's cool about that ray
is it reminds me of when I

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was a kid. If there was
a song I particularly liked, the one

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of the most thrilling things in the
world to me would be when I would

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find a remix of that song.
Yeah, you know, and it's like,

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you know, because it's like this
great song that now, oh,

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there's this other version, you know, and it would kind of renew the

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song for me. You know,
it's like, oh I already really liked

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this song. Now I like it
even more. There's this other version.

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And I remember too getting these.
You know, Vinyl obviously never went away,

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and in some ways it's there's more
Vinyl than ever. But I remember

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when I was a kid, you
know, these Vinyl albums would come out

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that were actually you know, they
called them seven inch they were just you

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know, full of remixes. You
know, you could get a song and

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then several different versions of the song, just different mixes. You know,

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there might be a dance mix,
there might be a rock mix, whatever.

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And I just I always loved that. That's why I'm someone too who

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I was always I like when people
because not everyone's into it, you know,

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when people take other people's music and
remix it or sample it or whatever

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configuration they're using it and using existing
music to create new configurations of that music.

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But I've always loved that. I
love it ever since I was a

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kid. You know, the mash
up. The mashup is I think it's

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a real art form. Oh yeah, I really do. When people can

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you know, weave together different parts
of different songs and actually make a new

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structure again. It's like it's like
cooking, isn't It's different ingredients and people

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are mixing them and that that's infinite. That's infinite what you can achieve.

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So and you've kicked off, in
my mind, a twelve inch version of

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one of the Shake It Up songs
on vinyl oh vinyls making a massive,

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massive comeback, So that could be
a few future prospects as well. And

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I think it's this, if things
don't work the way they want to work

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for you, find your own way, make your own way. And that's

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that's basically what I did, And
I'll be open and honest. It came

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a little bit from thinking, I
feel like I'm banging my headquains to brick

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wall. But what I chose to
do is stop doing that and think the

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wall's not going to fall down by
you banging your head against Try a different

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way. And that's us as humans, isn't it. We find a way

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to reinvent things and do things,
and that's that's what Shake it Up is.

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So if I'm going to give listeners
any advice, you know, try

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if you can to have a listen
to all five because it's a really really

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interesting experience because they are so different, so different. Well we should play.

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Let's let's play the version that you
sent me. Now, so this

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is so, this is shaken up. This is what do you call it?

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Version and one mix one. Let's
spin spin one, oh, spin

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one, yes, yes, all
right, let's give let's give this a

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listen. Now, although some people
might not know what you mean by spin,

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but then we'll just remind people there
are there are such a thing as

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as vinyl records, and uh,
you know, and and and way back

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in the day, that's what they
used to do in radio. They would

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they would actually uh put on put
on vinyl records and play them. But

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uh, all right, let's give
this a listen. So this is the

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spin one version of a shake It
Up. And this is this is not

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over soul, correct, this is
Ray Coats, Raycoats featuring Caroline Brown.

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It's actually got the lyricist Caroline Brown
her voice. Oh okay, okay,

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cool, all right, let's give
this a listen. Here it is shake

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it Up Spin one, this shake
it up right now, just shake it

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up, shaky God, the truth
be off shaking my wondrous spin. Let's

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get the ripon even there, just
a moment to sap the cli and the

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suffocating skin, the shaking a riding
down the shagar riding. Now, let's

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shake it up body now, shot
shot you shake it up and shaded prospicidity

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doesn't man a bit. The great
sun cats drive and blind calling wildly.

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We can't have a banging headscains the
wall. The shake it a right now,

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let's shake here of d now see
lit's see here up right now,

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listen up, shave it up,
waiting at the hope, struck numb by

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rules that make no sense at all. Let's see here last right now,

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let's open up the door. Let's
shake it up right now, Let's utilize

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the power. Let's shake it up
right now. You'll shake it up right

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now. Let's shave here up right
now. Just shave it up right now.

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Let's shot up right now. That
is very very catchy, shake it

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up, shake it up, spin
one, what's that right? You're not

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going to igno, right, are
you? That is catchy as hell.

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I was sitting here. I was
sitting here, you know, I'm often

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holding a pen and I'm sitting here
tapping the pen on my knee while it's

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playing. Yeah, really really good. Ray Coates is here with us via

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Skype, all the way from the
UK, and that is shaking up Spin

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one with Caroline Brown. That's who's
on there with you. That's it.

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That's it, absolutely, yeah,
yeah, really good. I love the

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Where do you record? I'm sure
I've asked you this before because I love

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them the way that sounds. It's
in near to Warrington is the best place

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I can describe. And it's funny
because I've heard Mark playing the guitar this

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morning, so as I'm listening to
these tracks, I'm remembering and he's such

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a wonderful guy, Mark, and
he's not particularly one of the people that

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comes into social media, which I
totally totally understand and respect, but so

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intechral to everything I do. I
come to Mark often with an idea of

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a song and he just puts so
much incredible particular guitar energy into it and

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you know, takes it onto a
different level. As you could hear,

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particularly in that song as well,
the guitar solos are amazing. The uh

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the first thing that I noticed is
the drums are Now are those are those

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real? Drums or are those program
drums? Because they sound they sound real

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programmed, Thank you, they're the
program. But but funny enough with the

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band. Now with who is Dan? It's me Rob Fox, a drummer,

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and Chris Mikael guitarist. So now
we're actually recording if you listen to

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Spin five, so shake it up, Spin five? Who is Dan?

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That is all completely real instruments.
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is different. You're right, but
it does. It does sound authentic,

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doesn't it. It's amazing the drum
sounds you can get now. You know,

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way back, I remember when when
you know that the technology wasn't quite

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there as far as you know,
like you could sort of tell, you

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know, I mean, I'm talking
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of tell when when drums were programmed
because a lot of you know, if

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you if you go on YouTube,
you can find a lot of demos of

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bands from you know, way back, you know, demos that were never

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supposed to be heard by the public. You're only supposed to hear the finished

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product. But these things leak out
and they get on YouTube and then you

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can hear you know, you can
often hear program drums and these demos and

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you can tell. But now it's
just amazing, Like those drums just sound

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really good, really punchy, you
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song. Really kind of drives the
song. And and and now in terms

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of your your collaborating and you even't
you haven't had me do uh for something,

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I was going to say that,
I was going to say that thank

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you, which is part of a
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that works, which is with a
gentleman named John Sheatham. I'll keep the

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message brief, but this is pretty
much what John shares. He was in

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real estate, in property in the
UK, and it took him to a

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couple of different countries, but particular
particularly Bulgaria, and long story short,

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as part of a real estate deal
Bulgaria went in the EU at the time,

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John was shot by the Bulgaria mafia
because they didn't want this ground to

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be purchased. And it was by
a gentleman that had asked John, can

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you can you come with me to
Bulgaria to you know, clinch this deal?

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And John was effectively left for dead. And it's a it's a it's

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an absolutely astonishing count I've sent you
an electronic copy of the book Fall Guy.

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I would strongly recommend anybody you know. It's we're taking it from a

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book to film, which is sense
where the soundtracks coming in. And Horsepower

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the song that you very very kindly
gave your incredible voice, and it worked

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so well, and I knew it
would. You're effectively without knowing it yet.

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You are the horse race commentator and
you're commentating on John's life and that

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will go into the song Horsepow,
which will be part of the soundtrack album.

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And John is just he's a living
miracle. How this guy is still

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alive. And it's not just the
shooting, it's what happened afterwards. So

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this is going to become a film, no doubt. We've got some people

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interested, but we're looking to reach
out to people as well. So that's

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a massive collaboration project at the moment
that we're working on. And your voice

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is absolutely perfect in not just your
voice, but the way you deliver it.

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It fits so well and you'll get
to hear that. Oh wow,

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yeah, I can't wait. Thank
you. Yeah, I was very very

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honored that you asked me to do
that, And yeah, that's quite a

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story he has. I mean,
you know how many people have you met

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who can say they were shot by
the Bulgarian mafia for one thing? Jeez?

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Absolutely, absolutely, And he's just
one of those people that and he's

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a phenomenal lyricist. That's where we
create and we're working on this current project,

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but also others. And I think
it's when you've only got two arms

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and two legs as much as you
can in life, you want to try

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and grow a few more arms and
legs. I think you know where I'm

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going, and that's where I'm coming
from with incredible lyricists, because predominantly I'm

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a lyricist, but ironically I have
all these people around me that create these

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words that then create the inspiration musically
and me for the projects that are being

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shared. And full Guy is it's
going to be an incredible piece of work.

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And the two songs so far fall
Guy is the single that's released,

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Cry is going to be an exclusive. This has never been played on a

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radio station. Ever, It's not
released until next Friday, so the two

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songs are going to be exclusive plays, particularly in America as well. Oh

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very cool. Okay, Well,
let's let's give Fall Guy a spin,

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Shall we wonderful? All right?
All right here it is. This is

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fall guy Raycoat's live with us,
skyping in all the way from the UK.

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Check this out. So we are
made to take a far scan that

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was now in fun passes by,
happy to collect body damage, mind rap

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surrounded by side as all ramp racing
through that cold. What's happened? Do

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you rest? Up? Signs fusifully
telegraph lights days and you shine at days

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you hide the vein whilst looking down
on your scene the plates. You know,

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sometimes it's just a lake the sun
signs. We are made to take

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a farm. No matter understand,
No man don't know the raison up became

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the foul quote un coming is the
echo woe as they did part and disperse,

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trolley dest white coat wool all over
the way. Too soon heavies came

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and throw me away. Unfortunately left
him a little too lame sometime so be

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froze and passed down jumping must since
I days then you shine, and days

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you hid the way I was looking
down on you see fag. You know,

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sometimes it's just made some signs.
We are made to take your father,

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No man said, No man,
tell no reason why African the farm

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girl one lay down until a firmer
graund I can stay near the angels amplified

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sound. Now this no escape out
to fight. I've just simply lost my

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life to sign signs be on me
to take kerfoon. You never say no,

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how to reason? Why became to
fun guy? To no reason?

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Why became to the phone guy?
Fun guy? Oh that is cool,

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fall guy. We have ray coats
with us, Yes, Skype and uh

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what that could be? Uh that
could be a James Bond theme, ray

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perfect, your your your ears are
a tru And that's it. That's it.

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Really, that's how I see it. I when I wrote the song

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and as it formed, and especially
now in the form it is in,

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I often close my eyes and think
of the screening because I've read John's story,

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I've read his life. Those are
his words. He's the lyricist.

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So I picture, I picture images, and it's such a such a powerful

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story. It's it could sound like
many things in life morbid. But we

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can't we can't avoid. We can't
avoid. You mentioned earlier, you know,

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the scary things in life. But
the amazing thing is, as many

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people do, John's live to tell
the tale and it's for him to share

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more than me in a way.
But I'm just genuinely incredibly privileged to be

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beside somebody who is a warrior,
a victor and just such an incredible grounded

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human being who has been no shadow
of a doubt to hell n back and

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to be with him is incredible.
We're going to be across to the US

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in the future. I know that
John loves to travel, so you might

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have to try and get rid of
us, but but it will be it

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will be a pleasure to share,
particularly horsepower. I'm very excited about that.

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So there's much to come, much
to come from myself and John.

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And uh yeah, and you've still
got that Uh do do people tell you

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this or is it just me to
me? You've really got that Bowie vibe?

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I have had that before, And
well, yes, thank you very

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much. I'll totally accept that.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, that's

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now. So when is that gonna
When is the full album going to be

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out? For that date wise?
Great question. I think it's around about

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June. Were gradual doing it a
little bit slightly old school, I guess,

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releasing a couple of singles. So
fall guys out now, already that's

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available everywhere. Yeah, cry Next, then we have two songs I will

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name them now. I'm quite happy
to do that, Folklore and Tales.

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I'm actually working on that today.
I've had a very very victorious song called

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Run for the Roses. They're going
to be the singles to begin with,

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and then the album will come out, which will include songs Vices, Horsepower,

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Thoughts, Time, and also a
spoken version of full Guy. So

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John's voice is going to be included. I'm very much about integrating and embedding

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the spirit of people and voices and
energy, so you know, I like

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that. I love the thought of
voices being included in things of people that

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are part of the project. It's
like, for example, Caroline and Shake

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it Up. So, yeah,
do you do you collaborate with people from

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I mean obviously you know you had
had me do something. Have you collaborated

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with other people from America? No? No, not not recently. Have

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in the past, have in the
past, but not recently, so a

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couple of years ago. But definitely
want to. I mean, I'd love

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that, I will not I'd love
I will I will be over and it's

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got to happen. I want to
create with as many people as I possibly

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can. So when you agreed to
add in your voice, it is just

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it's so great, isn't it When
you know you connect with people and what

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you do and your your voice as
it comes through the airwaves, and you

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think, it's just so many opportunities
to spin that off, no pun,

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intense, spin that off into other
things. And I think that's what I

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want to do because I feel the
more we can share together, the better.

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Well, well, that's the thing
I often marvel it's uh, and

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I comment on it and on the
show, is that it's an amazing time

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to be alive because you know,
we have the ability with the technology that

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we have to to be able to
collaborate with people so easily. You know,

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you can email files back and forth. And you know, had had

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we had we existed, you know
a few decades earlier, you know,

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we would have missed out on that. So it's it's really I think in

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a way that kind of goes back
to what you were saying earlier. You

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know, you were talking about living
in the moment that song chronos and you

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know, focusing on the now,
and it's you know, if you if

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you do stop and think about it. The now is pretty incredible, you

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know. I mean, we're both
old, and we're both old enough to

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remember you know, when uh,
you know, a pre internet, you

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know, you you go to the
record store. And don't get me wrong,

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I have wonderful memories of being a
kid and going to the record store

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and flipping through and finding things or
CDs. You know. But but now,

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you know, we have access to
so much and and we can collaborate

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00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,679
easily with people in other parts of
the world, and it really is pretty

408
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remarkable when you think about, you
know, and people get people get nervous

409
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,159
about technology too because of AI and
things, and that's a whole other subject

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that we discuss sometimes on the show. But but but it's but it's pretty

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hard to be negative on you know, some people are technophobic, but it's

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pretty hard to be negative on technology
and the grand scheme of things when you

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think of how it enhances our lives
and in all kinds of ways. But

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creatively, I mean, it's just
what it does for us is pretty remarkable,

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totally agreement, and like all things
in life, it depends on how

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it's used. So there's there's nothing
wrong with a knife. A knife is

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not a bad thing. A car
is not a bad thing. Hands are

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not bad things. It depends on
how they used, right. So technology

419
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,559
is not within itself a bad thing, right, It depends on how it's

420
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used. So I think the key
thing is focus on, very very carefully

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the intention of everything, and not
in a sense that is just a cliched

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throwaway. Well, I'm using it
for a good purpose. Many people could

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argue that for many different things.
But I think for me and what encouraging

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others is whatever it is, you've
got, use it to the greatest good

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you possibly can for yourself and of
course, by extension, for others.

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And the more we do that with
whatever it is, then the greater the

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experiences for us and for others.
And I look at creativity in the same

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way. There's no threat, there's
no competition, there's nothing to be afraid

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of because the thing will be more
with more people, and that's really integral

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to everything I do. Totally right. We couldn't have done in a way

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what we did, which was relatively
smooth when you think about it. Oh

432
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yeah, of you sharing, as
you say, a vocal file, a

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wab file that now is in the
song and I'd love to be able to

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have the opportunity when it's completed to
come back and play. Oh definitely,

435
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:28,760
of course, Oh absolutely absolutely,
Ray. But before we before it gets

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too late, I want to make
sure that our listeners know where to keep

437
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,000
up with everything that you're doing,
everything that you're going on, you're always

438
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:39,400
creating, you're always collaborating. What's
the best way for people to follow you

439
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:44,880
and keep up with you. I
think when I've worked out how I can

440
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:49,199
keep up with me, then I
think probably then fair enough. No,

441
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,920
website is probably the easiest placed.
At my name, I'm very approachable,

442
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,920
but the website is Raycoats That co
a t E Voice dot com, so

443
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Raycoats Voice dot com. Across social
media Raycoats or Raycoat's Voice. I wanted

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00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,559
just to quickly say before we move
on, to give a public thank you

445
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:22,599
to my partner, Michelle Roach.
And to be able to do what I

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do, which is a lot,
and over the last few years it's expanded

447
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,440
and extended. You need to be
surrounded by good people. Michelle isn't feeling

448
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,519
particularly well at the moment, just
generally not particularly feeling very well, so

449
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:45,559
I wanted just to say a public
thank you. There's no kind of flowering

450
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:52,239
ness in that. I can't not
mention Michelle because we've written together. She

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00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,800
supported what I'm doing and has enabled
the majority of what I share now.

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Wanted just to give a public gratitude
to the show. Oh, very nice,

453
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,639
very nice. No, I think
that's that's wonderful. And you know,

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,000
hope she feels better and yeah,
no, that's very good, very

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00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:14,199
good. Ray, Well, in
a moment, we're gonna play well,

456
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,920
we'll finish out the segment with this
track cry and uh so I get this

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00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,719
will be the world radio premire.
This hasn't been played anywhere else. Completely

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00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,480
very cool, very cool, and
anything you want to tell us about this

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00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,440
track specifically before we before we play
it without over explaining. It is John's

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00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:37,320
return back to the UK from Bulgaria
because of his injuries that were serious.

461
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,519
It took him four and a half
years to walk and talk again. Wow,

462
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,039
he lost his property, he was
living in the people he was working

463
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:50,800
for at the time. Most of
the names in the book have been changed

464
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:55,440
because there's a number of safeguarding issues
in terms of no doubt John, He's

465
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,199
had to change change a few names, but the person he was working within

466
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,719
the real estate was didn't take good
care of John at all. So John

467
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:12,480
John was just basically hung out to
dry and cry. The cover artwork so

468
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:16,639
when people look for this when it's
released officially next Friday, is John on

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00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:23,760
the cover outside the property that he
lost as a result of his life changing

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00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:30,440
injuries and the financial reversal he faced, and the songs about where he was

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00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:35,280
living. So it's very emotional,
but it's it finishes. I want to

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share this message so that the song
represents all of us. We've all had

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those days. Some days, we've
all we've all had those periods where we

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00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:51,039
just want to cry and we just
need to cry. So it's a representation

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00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:59,320
of real, real deep level emotion
and exercising those feelings through through crying,

476
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,840
through crying, that's what cry is. Yeah, very good and as you

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00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960
uh you know, as your reference, it's relatable. We all, uh,

478
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,440
we all have those moments. But
wow, boy, what he all

479
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:13,599
though. You know, I don't
know really anybody who's been through what he's

480
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:17,400
been through on that scale. So
very interesting. So we will, uh

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we'll play that in a moment,
but and uh, we'll let you We'll

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00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:22,760
let you go Ray, thank you
so much for joining us today, though,

483
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,039
my friend, it's always such a
pleasure to talk to you, and

484
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,360
you know, and and uh you
remind you remind me of some positive things,

485
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,280
you know, in terms of living
in the moment and stuff. I

486
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,199
don't you know, I I I, I don't just uh say that to

487
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,880
say it. I I. It's
good to be reminded, you know what

488
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:47,760
I mean. We need it,
absolutely, absolutely all right, So we'll

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00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,559
let you go. Ray Coats,
thank you again, my friend. Thank

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00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,360
you very much, Matt, and
thank you to everyone for listening. And

491
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,000
yeah, we'll we'll, we'll we'll
be together again, absolutely all right,

492
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:28,639
Thanks Ray. And uh here it
is. This is called fry. I

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00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:37,760
thought I heard the buildings cry as
I casually walked on by him. I'm

494
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,199
my way to meet a friend.
First thing, she said, Get those

495
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:50,559
thoughts out of your head. I
want this now to end. Go and

496
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:58,360
smash down glass scenings, seek out
those opportunities, open up that lonesome locktop,

497
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,079
just like you've done for years before. You may lose a battle.

498
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:10,440
But when long Halla wanted to do
his side, hall I wanted to do

499
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:17,679
is cry right through the nath Hall. I want to do is cry bout

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00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:24,119
a pear from the inside. Hall
I wanted to do his cry, cry,

501
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:39,440
cry, cry out loud. We
kissed and said our goodbye. Then

502
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:50,280
I began to realize the power everything
that she said, raised those things out

503
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:58,039
of your head on the snout said, So I'm went and smashed down those

504
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:05,719
ceilings, shot up those opportunities.
Don't that long slocktow, just like I

505
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,559
done for years before. Remember how
may lose about him? Like when Lord,

506
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,920
all I had to do was cry. All I had to do was

507
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:23,960
cribed on doing that. All I
had to do was cry out a bat

508
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:30,280
a way from the inside. All
I had to do was cry and cry

509
00:49:30,519 --> 00:50:05,159
and cry and cry. How love? The building is just a place in

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00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:13,920
the memory's high It's not a home
without you on the inside. We need

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00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:20,800
to smash down those ceilings, seek
out our opportunities, open up that along

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00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,360
some later, just like we've done
movie is before. Remember we may lose

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00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:32,000
a battle, but we'll always win
the war. Some days we are we

514
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:38,920
need to cry. Some days we
are we need to cry out the life.

515
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:46,599
Some days we are needed to cry
up at me from me inside.

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00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,679
Some days we all want to cry, cry, cry, cry, out

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00:50:54,159 --> 00:51:06,440
alone crad re captivating when you look
at you like that, intoxicating with a

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00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:10,559
texta to pie reality manipulating with a
hint. If you sweeten mass a little

519
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:38,719
cinnam then electrifies show. But take
accelerating when you're touching me like that.

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