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old crab. How are you guys
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Is it about that time of year
where it's getting kind of dry,

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kind of winding down in the summertime. Yeah, they're living is easy and

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it's some time and the weather it's
high. He can't get podcasts and times.

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It's god, I don't know the
podcast right, and then went right

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back to Mungo Jerry's seminal hit.
If you've ever listened to that song,

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it's pretty disturbing. If Dada is
rich, take her out of the town,

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if her dad's part, just do
what you want, Yeah, it's

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pretty much it. Yeah, just
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if they don't have the money to
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Jerry, you can do better than
that. Yeah, you're better than that.

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Mungo Mung don't say mung in America. That's his name, it is

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his name, it is his name. But that's not what you're here.

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Point you know your fruit crazy seventies. Uh at this point, folk,

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he wrote this point, maybe you
are. I don't, I don't,

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I I don't even know. Do
you like how I tried to segue into

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what we're talking about, and then
we just got sidetracked with right right back

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into it. There's no there's no
hope for us. I think this is

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gonna be a fun episode. Yeah
it is. And I'll tell you what

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Dave came up with with this one. This is one of Dave's babies and

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dabies baby, and uh, I
think I think it's gonna be real fun.

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We're we're gonna have a lot of
different stuff to offer you in this

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one. Yeah, everything from uh
folklore and yeah, occultism to science and

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a little bit of a story,
A little bit of a silver or silver

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tongue devil moves into town. A
little bit of music. Man. Yeah,

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some scams, some flams, some
shams, some broken dams. Oh

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I did it, dam so wait
wait wait there was h on Ragbry.

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One of the towns we went through, Like as I said before, like

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SMEs, these towns have like a
you know, I don't know, like

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I don't know if it's a high
school mascot, but they're just like,

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hey, we're the We're the the
the Smithsburg Fighting Vikings. Everything in the

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town is Vikings. So there's one
time we went through and everything was beaver

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themed and they were selling t shirts
for six dollars. I bought one from

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my friend Elise that says are you
a Beaver? Because damn nice it was.

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It was florescent orange. Nice.
Our our mascot was the blue jacket.

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Really yeah, which bird is that
bird? It's a well it was

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instead of a yellow jacket, it's
blue. Oh so it's like a wasp.

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So it's like it's like the basketball
team Hornets. Yeah, yeah,

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pretty much. And I have to
wonder if that maybe started out as like

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Native American because blue jacket is in
reference to like native it's it's like a

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Native American reference. Uh, and
then maybe changed along the way, you

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know, for to be PC or
whatever. Maybe, but they were pretty

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late to do a lot of those
changes that would have happened in your lifetime.

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I would think so. But maybe
my town was super progressive. As

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you may have guessed. We're talking
about team mascots this episode. What are

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we talking about, Seco. We're
talking about rainmakers American I mean, drought

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is a very popular topic these days. Uh, it is not a popular

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phenomenon, but lots of people are
talking about it, and I thought it'd

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be fun to go into um,
not only history of of people's attempts to

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conjure or control rain, but it's
it covers so much ground um from from

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religious systems to the traveling rain salesman
of the dust Bowl, to modern science

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to the Beijing Olympics. I mean, there's there's all kinds of things.

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This is a heck of an ongoing
story. And it's not we're not talking

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about just weather control. We're talking
about people who need water on demand.

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Yeah. Yeah. And you know
when you when you said rainmaking to me,

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called me an idiot. I was
like, you're an idiot. I

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was like, take this seriously,
I'm gonna find somebody else to to co

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host with Yell going to pay the
price close, So we got really close.

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But then I went in. I
recorded a sample podcast and stood outside

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his house of the boom box and
played it. He fell in love with

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it. But as I, as
I started going through this, I should

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have guessed, I mean, what's
one thing that that everything everybody on the

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planet has in common trying to predict
the weather, that's right, dealing with

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what mother nature gives you, And
it was. It turned into the biggest

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cornucopia of information. So we got
to dive in here. It was at

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a downpour. I just got flooded
with facts. Water ponds, water ponds.

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Puns are plays on words. That's
what puns are. Oh wow,

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No, no, no, no, no, we're not giving that to

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him. He doesn't get that.
He does not get that. So wait,

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but just just to mark that that
was a pun about me referencing a

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pun that you had. I mean
that is like that is in see doubled

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down. Yeah, inception didn't go
that deep. So I'm a genuine earnest

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well played Flora. It's a chicken
sandwich between two chickens. Uh, let's

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talk about what if you eat your
fingers. Let's talk about what rainmaking is

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and what the history of the of
rain rituals and cultures and things like that

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are is ours, and uh,
maybe a little bit of the current state

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of rainmaking. Yeah, um,
well's the could a nage of rainmaking technology.

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But to give you an overview,
rainmaking is pretty simple concept. It's

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a type of ritual designed to conjure
rain. Boom, nailed it, You're

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done, Good night everybody. The
ritual or rituals involved could be anything from

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a dance or spell, to singing
or chanting, or or the use of

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a device or a charm. Probably
the most popular rain ritual in North America

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is a Native American rain dance,
but cultures from all over the world have

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invoked the sky to open up throughout
the ages. Different instruments are used in

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the ritual of rainmaking, including rainsticks, stones, and other objects. Everybody

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is familiar with the rainstick. Who
walked by the nature store in the nineties

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sold them by the hundreds. I
think they probably had them at all the

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like gift shops and stuff too,
at state parks and things. Yeah,

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I mean even to this day.
You you can't swing a dead cat without

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hitting a rainstick and a gift shop. I what my first job, No,

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not my first job, but my
first like retail job I ever had

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was I was um holiday help at
the mall for the nature store, and

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I had to That was the little
dick weed who sat up front with like

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a raccoon and puppet going Hi,
Hi, Marry Christmas. Hi. Hi.

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Yeah it's a puppet. It was
wow. Yeah, I think I

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think they were trying to get me
out of the way. One of my

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bosses chewed on her thumb a lot. It was all messed up. Yeah,

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it's some sort of weird. Is
your boss like a raccoon? No,

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she was a perfectly normal and capable
woman in all respects, but her

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left thumb was horrifying. I don't
know now. Rainmaking is No, they

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don't want to hear about rainmaking.
They want to hear about my my my

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high school holiday job. Jesus right. It's often seen as a part of

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witchcraft, in the form of spills
or incantations, and we we have one

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or two of those as an example. Oh oh, we're gonna teach you

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how to summon a devil of rain, a demon of precipitation, we're gonna

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teach you how to summon something from
the dark lord. We also have some

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stories, some music, folklore,
some modern scientific rainmaking. We got it

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all in this episode. We got
it all. Yeah and so, and

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if we can just just get over
ourselves, might we might even get to

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it. That's right. Let's start
with some history histrionics saw. The realization

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that rain is important to cultures is
as old as what Dave. Culture itself,

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agriculture told you rain. Rain is
water and water is life for most

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civilizations, and the hydrologic cycle was
mentioned as far back as three thousand years

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ago in Vedic and Sanscript Indian texts. A prayer to invoke God's varuna or

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indra in order to obtain rainfall comes
from the Bakavad Gita performed by Vedic priests.

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The most popular verse that modern Hindus
quote goes as follows, Dave,

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will you be so kind as to
read this sure well? Anadvani bhutani parjanya

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dana sambava yagnad bavanti parigiano yagya karma. I know that word samba dava translated,

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it means that the life, oh
you get English is born from food

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a cheater. Food is produced by
rain, rain is produced by performing yagnaya,

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and that yagnaya is performed by doing
karma. The fire is built in

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this ritual and items are offered to
the gods, including milk, grains,

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and cakes. Gods love cake.
Everybody loves cake. So true, if

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I was a god, I'd still
love cake. I feel like I am

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a god and I love cake.
Rainmaking has been very important to various tribes

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in African history, and let me
please underline various tribes. It was recorded

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in accounts by nineteenth century imperialist Europeans, albeit a bit distorted in a more

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eurocentric manner. I think what you
mean is racist. Yeah, they classified

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it as silly exotica right right,
because all these people on the entire content,

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we're just board waiting for white people
to show up. This is what

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we've been doing, just to kill
time. Thank god you're here. What's

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that diseases? Thanks? And again, there are a ton of different tribes

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and cultures in Africa, and each
has its own distinct rituals. We cannot

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go over them all, and I
will not and we will not go over

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them all. We're gonna hit Lanta
keeps saying go over all of them.

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We're not gonna. I'm sorry,
Lanna, Sorry, Lana, I'm so

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sorry. It's it's it's pretty amazing
if you're into anthropology or just different cultures

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in general and mythologies and stuff.
The stuff in Africa you could just roll

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around in for years because everybody everything's
so distinct, even even though you know,

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everything's right on top of each other
and there's a close it means a

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big continent, yeah it is,
but very large continent. But I mean

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it is it's fascinating because I think
that uh, you know, not to

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soapox it, but I think that
we we end up with kind of this

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strangely homogeneous view of Africa, and
and it's you know, it's it's you

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know, like it's the way it's
per trade in the media, the way

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that the information we get from it. It just it just seems like kind

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of one big place that's all exactly
the same and nothing's ever good, and

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that's just that's just a it's a
it's a sad and accuracy just based on

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on our exposure to it. So
but yeah, you know, it's worth

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it's worth worth looking into, it's
worth learning more about. It's a fascinating

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continent. I mean think of it
this way. You've got South Africa,

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which is very distinctly different from just
you know, going north a little bit.

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Zambia is completely different, going even, I mean up to the top,

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there's Egypt. Yeah, going to
the west, Morocco, like everything

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is. So, it's got Burkina
Fossil formerly known as Upper Volta. The

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capital is a wagadougo there you go. And Djibouti is Jibouty anyway. Most

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that's that's like my pocket weird country
name, and so I memorized it.

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Most villages had their own Morocca or
rainmaker, and that's just one name for

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it. Um. Another one could
be shine chief. I saw that as

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a as another name for a rainmaker
careful uh. And this person would guide

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priests and priestesses through the rituals of
invoking rains, including animal sacrifice, food

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offerings, dances, and incantations.
And there are so many different mythologies for

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rain and rainmaking and African society it
would take three episodes to discuss themselves.

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So that's what we're gonna do.
This is one of three. Sorry,

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blurry blurry Fotober canceled. It's all
African rain myth Actually, I think that's

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still be pretty cool to do.
I'm gonna but you know, leave it

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to someone who actually knows what they're
doing. We'll give you this, We'll

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leave that up to your imagination.
There's just there's there's too many to cover.

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Yeah, but don't just imagine it
learned about it, because I just

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make it up in your own head. You're not going to be right.

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Eastern Europe has Eastern Europe also has
a chair of numerous rain folklore. In

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Greek mythology, the Hyades were rain
nymphs, and these were the daughters of

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Atlas. You've heard of him,
I sure have. Now do you know

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why why they're why? Why the
rain nymphs are high ads? As they

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sure weren't dry ads? Now you
make Now you make a pun that I

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made a pun? Come on,
you gotta like now you set the bar.

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They all started out as dry ads, Yeah, until I came into

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the room. Wo woah. These
were also the sisters to the Hesperides.

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They were associated with a constellation in
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rising and setting of the Hyades star
cluster were always attended with rain. It

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is time during a period of spring
or summer drought. It was the custom

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in many Balkan villages moving on for
a group of local girls to undress and

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then put on various combinations of leaves, sprigs, blossoms, flowers and herbs

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to perform the rainmaking ceremony. Yeah. This tradition was called do dola or

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sometimes per peruna, led by an
older girl or young woman who had also

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been dressed or decorated in this way. The girls then went in procession through

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their village and stopped in front of
houses to perform dances and sing songs which

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included formulaic refrains, all the while
calling upon the heavens to send down rain.

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The housewives poured water over the leader
of the troop, and sometimes the

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girls themselves sprinkled water over the courtyards
using bundles of sprigs and leaves. They

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were then rewarded by the householders with
flower the ground up, ground up,

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yeah, wheat or food and sometimes
straight up mute make it rain. I've

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also heard that just anybody would sprinkle
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It's a real sixy episode. Yes, that's it's weird. In many

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areas, the role passed gradually to
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the Gypsies. Oh, the Romas. Yeah, so they took it up

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exclusively. And you know, I
might be pronouncing that wrong. I'm not

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sure if it's Dodola or Dodola or
Dodola. Well, when those people come

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flying out of the time machine and
are mad at you will know that's that's

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the only way we learned. The
leading rainmaiden has been variously described as being

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from a poor and humble family,
as a popper and orphan, a non

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privileged person, and as the youngest
daughter of a widow who never remarried and

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was past childbearing age. There is
general emphasis on her loneliness, modesty,

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and purity, and she always went
barefoot, perhaps to emphasize her humility or

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rather humbleness, and more simply her
direct connection with the soil. In certain

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areas, to be a rainmaiden even
became a seasonal profession for Romney girls and

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young women, which involved them traveling
around to perform the ceremonies for various village

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communities. What if they were born
in the wagon? All the travel on

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and show, and Mama's would dance
for the money. They'd throw Papa wa

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good. He'd do it so hard. I did say good. Sorry,

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that's so gross. I will say
this gypsies, tramps and thieves. I

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think I think it is my favorite. Share song might be one of the

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most common songs that we've referenced on
this show, because I love it so

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much. Sell a couple of marbles, Sell a couple of marbles. Bibles,

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Oh yeah, I got moms and
doctor Good. It's preach a little

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gospel. Sell a couple of bottles
of Doctor Good. Oh my bad,

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sell bibles? Do you even reach? Preach, doctor, doctor Pepper?

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Whatever? Do you even know?
Where she met the boy? It was

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just South Ammobile. She gave him
a ride and filled him with a hot

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meal. She was sixteen, he
was twenty one. Dude, he rode

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with us to Memphis and Papa what
a shot he could? He was too

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busy going Jesus, we'll never get
through this. Moving on. Kalloeon is

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a similar ritual found mostly in Wallachia, the southern part of Romania, which

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said sound familiar, That sound familiar? How does that sound familiar? Dave

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sounds like dragular territory. It was
the Impaler's kingdom. Young girls make one

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to several clayey dollsling male figures,
most important being either Father of the Sun

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or the mother of dragons I'm sorry, the mother of the rain, depending

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on the purpose of the ritual.
This doll is dressed in common clothes,

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placed on a wooden board or in
an improvised tree bark coffin ornamented with flowers

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and so pursuits a mock up of
the traditional burial ritual officiated by children.

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Yes, the children must make watch
the sweet marches through crop fields, around

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watercourses and whales until the colloyon gets
to be buried. After three days,

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the colloion is unearthed, returned to
the village, and mourned again until it

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is finally set loose to float on
the water of a river, a lake,

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or thrown into a well. Now
we're going to purposefully, I think,

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stay away from talking about too many
gods like thor or we'd be here

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all day. We're already going to
be here all day if we're singing gypsies,

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tramps and thieves, I know,
I know. So we could go

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into like, oh this is the
god of rain. For this culture,

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this is a god over rain.
But we don't need to because there's only

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one true god and his name is
Draco Lor and he lives in this lake

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over here. Tuck Lord, that
was a really great hope. I hope

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anybody caught that. That was a
really wonderful old the State sketch Tom Lennon

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just as an old man whittling.
Call me old fashioned, but I believe

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there's only one true god and his
name's Drectar, and he lives in this

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lake over here. Japan has a
large and varied history of rain making rituals.

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In one rather disturbing account, among
the high mountains of Japan, there's

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a district in which, if rain
has not fallen for a long time,

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a party of villagers goes in procession
to the bed of a mountain torrent,

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headed by a priest who leads a
black dog. At the chosen spot,

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they tether the beast to a stone
and make it a target for their bullets

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and arrows. Oh when it's lifeblood
bespatters the rocks. Oh yeah, try

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to class it up by saying bispatters. Yeah, way to pinkies out your

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animal abuse. The peasants throw down
their weapons and lift up their voices in

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supplication to the dragon definity of the
stream, exhorting him to send down forthwith

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a shower to cleanse the spot from
its defilement. Custom has prescribed that on

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these occasions the color of the victim
shelby black as an emblem of the wished

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for rain clouds, but if fine
weather is wanted, the victim must be

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white without a spot. People in
Kanagawa and western Tokyo believed that if the

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top of the mountain was veiled by
clouds, it would rain momentarily during a

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long spell of dry weather. They
offered a prayer and petition for rainfall to

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Sekisson, a shrine at the top
of the mountain, as if Sekissan had

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been a rain doctor. That's just
part of it, Oh my gosh,

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especially since these beliefs in these practices
were medieval and and and backwards. You

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know, keep well, keep in
mind this back in history. The majority

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of these things, they always the
underlying current is fear, you know.

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I mean, people don't casually pray
for rain. They need rain like they

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need crops to work, you know, So this is this is always something

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done out of you know, there's
there's fear and anxiety, and I think

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a lot of that would bleeds into
the ritual at that point that absolutely that

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this has to work. So we're
really, we're we're gonna, we're gonna

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go the extra the extra mile.
You know, we're we really we do

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that thing in the spring where we
hope the crops turn out. Well,

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you know, we try hard,
but for this, we we really need

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this to work. So we'll go, yeah, we'll really dig in.

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Well, we'll kill a damn dog. Yeah we will kill a dog the

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hard way, but but elegantly besplattered
ly. Let's get into America. The

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Native American rain dance was the most
common among the Native American tribes in the

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southwest of America, since during the
summers there they would have long droughts.

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Makes sense, yea. The Hopie, the Zuni, the Pueblo, and

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the Apache performed it in the southwest, and the Cherokee had one they performed

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in the southeast, right, I
mean the mesa Verde, the Anasazi Indians,

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the green Table they got there.
The reason that that's abandoned now is

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because of water. They moved into
the area during a particularly lush weather cycle

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that lasted you know, a fair
amount of time. I think maybe as

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much as a hundred years, but
pay with the lesson that between sixteen one

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hundred years somewhere like that. And
uh and then when they came out of

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that into not even even to a
drought cycle necessarily, but just a more

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regular average rainfall for that that region, not enough water to support them,

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they believe. I learned that in
collapse. So Jared Diamond's book is that

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one of those lost tribes of the
Southwest things, yep, that that people

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were like all these places in the
side of the mountain were abandoned. Yeah,

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that's Maseverita, yep. And so
yeah, there's when when they really

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sit down and look at it,
there's it's there's no shortage of very obvious

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reasons that for the population that that
area was supporting, not to mention the

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people that weren't in Masi Verita itself, but in the surrounding areas. Um.

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It's an arid sort of area anyway, UM would extraordinarily hard to get

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after a while, you know.
It's it's it's the same problem that that

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Cahokia ran into. It's the same
problem that a lot of these um,

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these larger gatherings ran into um.
Not only were there problems with sanitation,

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but you simply, you know,
how far out are you sending people to

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hunt and to get materials? And
how long is it worth it to have

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them go all the way out and
come all the way back just so that

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you can have an address where your
mail gets sent to. Yeah, how

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much of a pain in the ass
is it to send your team on an

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away game and play Chunky and it's
right around Saint Louis And then you got

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to go back to Phoenix and like
well, and nobody wanted to play in

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Colorado because of the altitude. But
then nobody wanted to play against Colorado teams

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because they were so used to us. They go, they go down in

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the elevation. They're just like just
sucking up this high oxygen rich environment.

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It was unfair. Yeah. Yeah, So they disbanded that team. They

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relocated them to La the Phoenix Rainmakers. It's right, that's the next Chunky

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team. That's your Oh yeah,
absolutely, Maize Gobbler's Church Barons Rainmakers need

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one more team. We can't just
have an odd number. No, no,

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we can't, because we need a
Eastern conference in a West. That's

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right, It's exactly why we'll come
back to it. You know what,

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No, you tell us right us
in we're trying to expand the uh,

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the Chunky League. We're trying to
get too expansion dance right. That way

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we can we can petition cities for
a huge, huge tax breaks and get

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some stadiums built. Yeah, Santa
Fe snake dancers, M do that that.

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This is a that's a good segment. I feel like I feel like

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the snake dancers is far too easy
to make fun of or draw pictures of.

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Yeah, we shouldn't do something that's
easy on us trying to get stuff

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set up. Here's the thing.
These these rain dances were performed by both

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the men and women of the tribes, unlike other tribal rituals where only men

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were allowed. Evidence on how each
raindance was performed is passed down through oral

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tradition. The steps of the raindance
itself are quite intricate, and unlike circle

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dances, which are seen in many
Native American ceremonies, the in and women

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stood in separate lines and made zig
zagging patterns. David Herbert Lawrence described a

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particular ceremony in his late nineteenth century
book The Hopie Snake Dance, saying from

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eighteen eighty to nineteen twenty, the
Hopie Snake and Antelope ceremony, popularly known

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as the Snake Dance, was far
and away the most widely depicted Southwest Native

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American ritual, usually performed in August
to ensure abundant rainfall for the corn crops.

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It was only one ritual in the
round of ceremonies that Hobi's enacted throughout

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the year, but because it involved
the handling of live snakes, it was

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the ceremony most often described by non
Indian observers. Oh yeah, I mean

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it's yeah, you start picking up
rattlesnakes or any snakes. It was rattlesnakes.

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Yeah, sure, you're you're gonna
draw some attention. Yeah, And

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I read that they would dance with
them in their mouths and it goes on.

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The dance requires two weeks of ritual
preparation. You're just trying to psych

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yourself up to handle a dance snake, to put a rattlesnake in your mouth,

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during which time the snakes are gathered
and watched over by children. Until

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time for the dance on the last
day of the sixteen days celebration. The

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dance is performed by percentage of the
local snake population. Most are rattlesnakes,

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but all are handled freely. These
types of ceremonies were performed to ask the

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spirits or gods to send rain for
the tribe's crops. Some tribes wear large

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head dresses, while others wear masks. Accessories often included paint on the body,

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beads, animal skins, horse and
goat hair, feathers, embroidered aprons,

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jewelry made of leather, silver,
and turquoise. Feathers in the color

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blue are often found in dress and
accessories. Dress and access found in accessora

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found in dress and accessories symbolizing the
wind and respectively. Now I'll say this.

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You say mask, I hear snake
helmet. Some guy figured out.

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No, no, guys, it's
it's even more powerful if I'm wearing this

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wooden mask. Yeah, I don't
worry. The snake right in the mouth,

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I got it, put him right
here too. I don't know.

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And I'm covering my upper body with
pelts and beads, but I'm psyched up.

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Two weeks I'm ready, ye give
me that, but that, but

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that snake in my mouth, I
can't wait. Which, by the way,

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I mean, I don't know how
many people about there handled snakes,

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but they stak they release like smells
and stuff when when you start jostling them.

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I wouldn't want that in my mouth
at all. Yeah, reptiles in

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general, Or how hard do you
bite down on a snake while you're dancing?

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Hard enough to let it know who's
balls? Do you do? You

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want? I want the snake to
think he's the boss. I want the

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snake to be calm and feeling in
charge of things like this is what he

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wanted to have happen. Yeah,
that's a good point. I mean,

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you got to keep the snake in
your mouth. It's embarrassing and it's only

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gonna get dirty or if it falls
out. So how hard do you bite

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down on a rattlesnake in your mouth
even with your snake helmet mask? Gee?

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These are questions will never have answers
to These Special clothes and accessories were

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which were worn during the raindance were
generally not worn at other times of the

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year, but rather restored for this
specific ceremony and I got a got an

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example of a type of rain dance
in a it's in a performance setting.

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It's a recent thing, but apparently
it's it's a type of raindance that may

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or may not have been performed.
Okay, is it from flashdance? Well,

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because that one worked. There goes
the supergy the minute her butt gets

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in that chair, ska douche a
little coke store at the end. There

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it kind of I kind of sounded
a little bit like a military cadence to

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me. Yeah, and again,
I don't know if this is a true

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00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:38.240
rendition of of what you know would
be going on for a rain dance or

402
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:44.079
if it's just like, oh,
we're gonna we're gonna throw a presentation together

403
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.319
called a raindance and right and get
everybody off our backs kind of thing.

404
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.200
And I don't mean to sound disrespectful
or anything, but I think that there

405
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:59.359
aren't I couldn't find that any good
like specific raindance right examples I thought i'd

406
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.759
be able to. I guess I'm
just terrible, just terrible, But hopefully

407
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.519
that gives you some idea. Yeah, come on, that was great.

408
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.039
Got a story here from some Native
American folklore and This one is called how

409
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.480
Rain Became wet because it's made of
water at the end, jeez. Moving

410
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:25.199
on, this one features our old
buddy Coyote. Ooh sorry, I'm k

411
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:35.719
yte coote Yote. In the beginning
of the world, there were many many

412
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.679
people, and the people held councils
to decide how things should be. There

413
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.199
was one man named Coyote, who
always had something to say on every subject.

414
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.920
At one council, this question came
up, how and what kind of

415
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.400
rain should be in the world.
One of the men said it should be

416
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:58.320
rain in the form of lead balls, which would be very dangerous, and

417
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.760
so when the rain came, the
people would have to stay at home.

418
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.360
Then Coyote rose from his seat and
said, if it should rain nothing but

419
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.360
lead, it would be very dangerous
for my people because they do not stay

420
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.079
at home very much. And as
for myself, I might be carrying a

421
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.960
big deer to my family to eat
when the rain begins to fall, and

422
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.920
I would certainly be killed. I
say, let it rain and drops of

423
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.639
water. Then we can be caught
out in the rain and get very wet,

424
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.840
but we will soon be dry again, and the wedding will be good.

425
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.519
For us. The people accepted Coyote's
suggestion, and so it is that

426
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:40.679
it rings in the form of water. Nice. Thanks Coyote. I've got

427
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.320
a story here. Yeah, yeah, And this one's a little more at

428
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:49.800
my alley. We'll get a little
entomological. Oh yeah. This one's called

429
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:54.719
how the beetle produced rain? How
the beetles produced rain and not beatles.

430
00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:07.519
I thought you some presititation coll blimey
in will ribe they were living, and

431
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.960
that the Hojia village lived the hohoyat
certain black beetles. It was always hot,

432
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.159
and the wind was blowing, and
it did not rain. As these

433
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.719
beetles drank rainwater, they became very
thirsty. Some became so thirsty that they

434
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.480
die. So their chief said,
one time, let us have a dance,

435
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:27.239
and perhaps if we dance, it
will rain, because if it does

436
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:30.880
not rain, we shall all die. Pretty good reasoning, He followed by

437
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:36.440
bee Vince. Yeah, there's a
certainly, there's kind of a speed racer

438
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.159
cadence to this. Let us have
a dance, and perhaps if we dance

439
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.039
it will rain it because if it
does not rain, we will all die.

440
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.920
And keeping the speed racer motif going
very well, we shall have a

441
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.000
dance, they said, and maybe
it will rain then and we shall not

442
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:59.000
die. Man, these people need
to check the trunk because there's a child

443
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.760
and a monkey back there. So
one evening they assembled a practice for the

444
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:06.039
dance, and their chief made a
little song for them. This they were

445
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.559
practicing. They practiced a while in
the evening, and then they went to

446
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.480
sleep. The story brought to you
by the word practice practice. We needed

447
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.920
to do something because otherwise you're going
to die. The next day they were

448
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.679
going to have their dance. Early
in the morning. They got up and

449
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.599
their chief made four naquacosis for them. He deposited the naquacosis west of their

450
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:27.920
little village and spoke to the clouds
in the San Francisco Mountains, saying,

451
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.400
we are thirsty here, so you
come quickly this way and bring us some

452
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:36.039
water that we may drink and not
die. Oh. So he returned to

453
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.519
their village and they dressed up to
the dance. They painted their bodies black,

454
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.719
and then they danced. Okay,
they were in a hurry because they

455
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.920
were thirsty, you know, the
old thirsty hurry. Their chief began to

456
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:51.360
pray to the clouds of the San
Francisco mountains, come this way quickly and

457
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.360
bring us water. So they were
formed in a line now, and one

458
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.400
of them acted as leader. By
this time a cloud was forming in the

459
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:04.320
mountains. Now they sang the following
song, you quah, you quaha yaha

460
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:10.320
rain rain ehi yaha eh spirited,
very spirited. Yeah, I'm in I'm

461
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.000
on thin ice here. You just
I gotta just just do it as a

462
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.559
I mean, I can't, I
can't dive in on this, okay,

463
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.159
I just have to play the balls. No rain, you might die.

464
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:29.280
I'm in a hurry because I'm thirsty, okay, thirst hurry. As they

465
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.119
were singing, the clouds came nearer, and it began to rain and thunder,

466
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:35.599
and the water began to false that
they could now drink. When they

467
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.760
had quenched their thirst, they were
very happy and ran about because they were

468
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:45.559
no longer thirsty. The end,
well, there you go. There's there's

469
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:47.679
a story for you. Yeah.
I hope that cleared it up. So

470
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.159
in that in that clip I played, you might have heard some instruments instrumentation

471
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.119
in there, like drums and foot
scuffles. Drums, foot scuffles and some

472
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:05.400
pitter patters may have been part of
the ritual of calling for rain involving these

473
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.239
little things called rainsticks. Ever heard
of them? These are long, hollowed

474
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:14.280
plant stalks, which, when turned
or shaken, produces a pattering sound similar

475
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.480
to rain. It's believed they were
used historically in rituals to summon rain.

476
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.679
But stories concerning the origin of the
rainstick are numerous. Some say that the

477
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.760
instrument was invented by the Aztecs and
that it later spread throughout Central and South

478
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:36.000
America. This is probably not the
case, since rainsticks are not found archaeologically

479
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:39.760
or in Spanish accounts. However,
Furthermore, the Aztec Empire was short lived

480
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.559
and came late in the history of
the Americas. It's more likely, as

481
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:49.159
reported by some musicians from Mexico who
would call the Event, that the rainstick

482
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:54.400
was introduced into popular Mexican music sometime
or in the nineteen sixties. Whoa,

483
00:39:54.559 --> 00:40:00.599
that's much more recent. The same
may be true for the Dieguita Indians of

484
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:07.079
Chile. Some historians believe rainsticks were
an idea introduced by enslaved African peoples.

485
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.360
Tubular rattles pierced with iron nails are
common in West Africa, especially among the

486
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.400
Togo and Pengui, and as early
as sixteen nineteen, fifty percent of the

487
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:23.559
six thousand inhabitants of Lima Peru or
enslaved people from West Africa. Oh do

488
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.599
you know that? I did not
know that? It is likely that the

489
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.960
indigenous peoples of South America, especially
the hunter gathers of the Upper Amazon,

490
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.000
the farmers of the northern Chile and
Argentina, would have come in contact with

491
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.719
these slaves beginning around fifteen thirty seven. Because of trade routes running through these

492
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.000
areas, the indigenous people could easily
have adopted the idea of piercing the tubular

493
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.239
rattle with thorns to create a new
sound, an instrument, And here's what

494
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:58.400
one sounds like. Never never knew
that, never would have thought that,

495
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:04.119
never knew because you know, you
you think in that terrible day and age,

496
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:08.239
everyone was brought to America. Well
that's at least thirty thousand according to

497
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:15.239
the source that went to Peru.
God, that's yeah, And uh,

498
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:21.079
you just I don't know, it's
it's of course everyone everyone wants slaves.

499
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.760
I guess, I guess I'm going
to talk about stones, which you wouldn't

500
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.199
think of for rain, but stones
are often supposed to possess the property of

501
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.280
bringing on rain, provided they be
dipped in water or sprinkled with it,

502
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.039
or treated in some other appropriate manner. In a Samoan village, a certain

503
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:44.119
stone was carefully housed as the representative
of the rainmaking god, and in time

504
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.079
of drought, his priests carried the
stone in procession and dipped it in a

505
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:52.960
stream. Among the tata Thi tribe
of New South Wales, the rainmaker breaks

506
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.880
off a piece of quartz crystal and
spits it towards the sky. The rest

507
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.480
of the crystal he reps an emu
feather, soaks both crystalline feathers and water,

508
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:07.719
and carefully hides them. In the
Caraman tribe of New South Wales,

509
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:12.400
the wizard retires to the bed of
a creek, drops water on a round

510
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:17.119
flat stone, then covers up and
conceals it. Among some tribes of northwestern

511
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:22.880
Australia, the rainmaker repairs to a
piece of ground which is set apart for

512
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.880
the purpose of rainmaking. There he
builds a heap of stones or sand,

513
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.360
places on the top of it his
magic stone, and walks or dances around

514
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.000
the pile, chanting his incantations for
hours till sheer exhaustion obliges him to desist

515
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:44.000
when his place is taken by his
assistant, and he probably has visions of

516
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.119
the afterlife. Yeah, that's a
trancy kind of Water is sprinkled on the

517
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:53.199
stone and huge fires are kindled.
No layman may approach this sacred spot while

518
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:59.400
the mystic ceremony is being performed.
When the Solka of New Britain wish to

519
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.639
procure rain, they blackened stones with
the ashes of certain fruits and set them

520
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.800
out along with certain other plants and
buds in the sun. Then a handful

521
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.760
of trip of twigs is dipped in
water and weighted with stones while the spell

522
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.079
is chanted. After that rain should
follow. Yeah, solved it easy as

523
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:22.079
that. The ancient Roman ceremony of
the Aquilisium is designed to produce rain after

524
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.679
a long drought. This is a
fun one. In ancient times, the

525
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:32.239
ceremony consisted in a procession headed by
the pontifices which bore the sacred rainstone.

526
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.679
This is a big hunk of Lapis
manalis from its resting place by the Porta

527
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:44.360
Capena up to the capital, where
offerings were made to the sky god Jupiter

528
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:49.760
together with a symbolic ritual of pouring
water over the stone. So they need

529
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.440
water, they haul a big stone
out and they pour water on it.

530
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.360
Yeah. Well, you know,
it takes money to make money. A

531
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.920
similar rain charm and ceremony was practiced
in the curious ritual of the Arguorum Sacra,

532
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:07.480
which involved throwing puppets of straw into
the river Tiber as a symbolic wedding

533
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:13.480
of the crops. M Yeah,
so from stones you get ray. Yeah.

534
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.679
So, so now that we know
the tools of the trade, you

535
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.519
know what if we want to know
the trade of the trade, you want

536
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:22.119
to you want to know some of
the some of the behind the curtain.

537
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.920
I want to see. Maybe maybe
I'm so desperate for rain that I'm willing

538
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.639
to say you shoot some of my
hot closely held beliefs. Than maybe I'm

539
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.599
willing to make a deal with Doc
on the Fairies Palace. Maybe I am

540
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.760
myself willing to dabble in that which
is known as witchcraft. I think we

541
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:44.199
can make an arrangement here. I'm
glad to hear that, because also I

542
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:49.400
want to worship a demon. Yeah, witchcraft has always had weather magics,

543
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:59.079
and it's a repertoire from Francesco Guazzo's
compendium Maleficarum in sixteen oh eight. Witches

544
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:04.320
can control not on the rain and
hail and the wind, but even lightning

545
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.960
with the gods of permission. That's
a week which in Return to the Islands

546
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:16.400
by Arthur Grimble in reference to his
colonial service in the Gilbert Islands, them

547
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:30.559
Grimbler my adoption away back in the
nineteen eighteen into the twa sect of the

548
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:36.880
Royal and priestly Crown of kar Andres, giving me the right to practice the

549
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:44.880
magic of rainmaking and rain dismissing.
Incidentally, also of eclipse undoing whenever the

550
00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:57.920
fancy took me. White magic through
enlisting the beneficent divine name Jesus was practiced

551
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.000
even in the Bible. Sammy,
for instance, was able to produce a

552
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:08.239
thunderstorm against the warring Philistines from first
Samuel, is it not wheat harvest today?

553
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.920
I will call into the Lord and
he shall send thunder and rain.

554
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.199
So Samuel called into the Lord,
and the Lord sent thunder and rain that

555
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:21.920
day, and all the people greatly
feared the Lord. And Samuel it's in

556
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.119
the Bible. Well, yeah,
they also were afraid because they were supposed

557
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.000
to be out harvesting wheat all day
and now it's raining. What witches and

558
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:35.039
wizards appealed to occult spirits summoned by
the sorcerer to invoke rain many times,

559
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:43.400
invoking help from virkun bel Fagan or
Asmodius or the Satanic Majesty and his multiple

560
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:49.320
ethnic variations, and to his numberless
host of satellites. Finally, someone pain

561
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:55.039
shabi it to his Satanic Majesty.
Manny's the document or description of spell work

562
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:00.800
that leaves out our dark Master,
the father of lies, the great unclean

563
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.920
one, the many handed sunderers,
fine inglorious name left without it. I

564
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.320
spent all of my attention not coming
up with like six names for the devil.

565
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.639
Yeah, you did it. I
guess those are names of demons too.

566
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:16.639
Huh oh, yeah, yeah,
don't worry, we're coming around to

567
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.960
that. I've got such a great
list of demons with the sigils of their

568
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:24.840
summoning. Each tribal group, each
ethnic culture employed in the succession of the

569
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.360
ages, its own techniques of approach
to the powerful spirits. Thus, among

570
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:36.880
the Semites of the first century BC, there was a certain Judaic thomaturgist honey

571
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:42.079
ha ma Agal. Standing within the
protective area of a magically circumscribed circle,

572
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.719
he called down rain from the heavens, and according to legend, he was

573
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:52.719
so successful that he was called what
Dave while they called him the circle draw

574
00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:58.760
Step aside, people, make some
room. The circle draws coming into town.

575
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.960
Hope it got your umbrellas ready.
You know the guy that calls rain,

576
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.119
Yeah, you call him a circle
drawer. That's his cool street name.

577
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.039
Druids, according to one legend,
once performed a unique ritual involving a

578
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:21.880
nude maiden noise, they sprinkled water
over her and this divisive, sympathetic magic

579
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.400
brought in the rain clouds. That's
all you gotta do. That's all we

580
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:30.360
gotta do. In one tasty medieval
inducement to rain, a white cock was

581
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:35.559
to be killed whoa. After it
was torn apart, the entrails were extracted,

582
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.960
Then the carcass was filled with mirror, white pepper, frankincense, milk

583
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.079
and wine. Oh there's nothing like
a chicken shake. The cock was then

584
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:51.280
held toward the sun while an incantation
was chanted. Rain followed, and so

585
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.519
did a delicious meal. I think
no, well, I don't think.

586
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.599
I don't think rooster is what you
want to eat. Cock meat doesn't taste

587
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.199
good to ship. Yeah, did
you see what I know? But for

588
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.079
real, I don't think you're supposed
to eat roosters or I don't know.

589
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.400
I don't think I've ever eaten a
rooster, but I think generally people don't.

590
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:13.320
I think it's the hens that are
the eaters. I see. And

591
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.760
in Malaysia, if a woman puts
on her head an inverted pot and sits

592
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.559
it on the ground and fills it
with water and washed a cat in it

593
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:25.280
until the cat is almost half drowned, heavy rains are soon to follow.

594
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.559
Yeah, well, you gotta,
you gotta. You know, that's pretty

595
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:31.719
pretty straightforward. Just got a half
drown a cat and you're good to go.

596
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.239
Yeah. I might be wrong about
that rooster thing. More I think

597
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.039
about it, I just I just
I don't know. I don't know anything.

598
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.639
I just I don't think I've ever
eaten a rooster. I don't think

599
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.800
people genuinely do. I don't know. Maybe the rooster is the best eating.

600
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.719
Maybe I can't afford a rooster.
Could be it. I've just been

601
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:54.599
eating cheap ass lady chickens. So
Dave, yeah, Dave did want to

602
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:58.840
conjure a storm? No way,
I'm not. I'm not touching any of

603
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:02.320
your dark filth. Okay, okay, you know what, I'll change my

604
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:06.480
mind. All right, let's let's
if I can summon a demon a day,

605
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.360
I can bring in a rainstorm,
I think. So here's what you

606
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.719
need. You need a broom,
don't have one. The plant okay,

607
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.320
it's a it's a gorse type plant
with prickly yellow flowers. I don't have

608
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:17.239
one of those. What else you
need? Rice? I don't have any

609
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:21.719
salt, not with me? Water? Oh, some small bowl, yeah,

610
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.679
but that's my rice bowl. I
keep that mother for empty. And

611
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.119
a red candle. Yeah, I
don't have one of those. Well,

612
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.440
the red candles for lightning. If
you don't want lightning, don't use the

613
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.039
candle. Well, that's fine,
I don't even want lightning. All right,

614
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.199
here we go instructions. Ready,
Yeah, light the candle. Okay

615
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.239
you don't. You don't have a
candle. I have a candle. Pour

616
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:44.440
the water into the bowl. I'll
pretend to and say this the rains of

617
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:52.320
time for watch, it's one empty
thine eyes upon this earth. Stare the

618
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.000
water with a spoon, don't have
one. Imagine a huge storm cell forming.

619
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.199
Okay, place the broom into the
water, don't have it. Room

620
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:09.119
brings the winds. Say this winds
shall follow effortlessly, tearing through every limb

621
00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:15.000
of tree. Continue to stir the
mixture. Imagine the storm getting bigger.

622
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.840
Okay, add the rice, don't
have any This is to cause the downpourse,

623
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.159
so you don't have to say anything
for the rice. Just start stirring

624
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.599
really fast. Add the hot wax
from the candle and have a candle and

625
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:37.280
say, lightning strike quick and long. Make it last naked straw. Add

626
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.679
the salt, the salt sea,
don't have any. I don't have any

627
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.920
salty. Well, it seals the
mixture, and then you can say,

628
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:51.679
by the powers of three times three, let it be, Let it be,

629
00:51:52.599 --> 00:52:00.360
Let it be. I want some
precipitation on me. Really, really

630
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.639
was the beetles closing it to rain? Yeah, take the mixture and throw

631
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.039
it outside into the wind. Now, if I were you, I would

632
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:12.920
seriously make a protection mixture and sprinkle
it on your window. Cels. Oh,

633
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:15.519
they tell me at the end,
I've already thrown this thing. I

634
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:23.760
don't even know how to make it
where to go witchcraft. You couldn't put

635
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:28.000
an asterisk at the front of Hey, you might need this when you're done.

636
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:42.960
That's great, that is glorious.
Thunder sound. Yeah, we would

637
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.320
have hunched ourselves in the dick if
we had, I know, I just

638
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:52.440
thought of that. Yeah, wow, or red candle sound. Nope,

639
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:55.159
it didn't work. It doesn't work
that way. I didn't have one.

640
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:00.039
Yeah, Dave, Yeah, how
about how about we tell us scary story

641
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:06.920
on rain? Okay, got a
story here from creepy pasta Oh la la.

642
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.159
I would read this, but I
really really at my voice just now.

643
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.519
By summoning the rain, this has
also pared down a little bit from

644
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.239
the actual post. Oh thanks God
hit it in here, but anybody got

645
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:25.199
time for that. The rain Man
is said to be a myth of a

646
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:30.639
personification of the rain, or of
a rain god. His appearances are few

647
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:35.360
and far between. Not much is
known about the rain Man, since the

648
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:40.039
reports of him generally only explain him
standing still, staring idly at the witness.

649
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.559
One feature is certain about him his
eyes. They appear to be oversized

650
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:52.320
or inhumanly wide, like headlights.
They also lack pupils. Or irises.

651
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:58.239
Some reports say that they have the
ability to light up an area like a

652
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:02.400
lantern. He also has a theme
of long, dark, usually black hair

653
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.239
draped over his face in a similar
manner to jew own, which is the

654
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.039
same thing that was on the Grudge. Oh right, that's which meant that

655
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.960
Japanese horror movie. But if the
hair is draped over his face, how

656
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:17.960
do you say the head light eyes? There is only one sign of his

657
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:22.960
coming, excessive rain. In every
single report and sighting, there has been

658
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:29.679
continuous rain and small flooding for a
minimum of three days before sightings occurred.

659
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.440
More recently, the rain man has
been sighted in North America, England,

660
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:40.760
France, and Australia. In the
eighteen seventies, there were reports all around

661
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:45.440
Central Europe of a man in the
rain. Usually this would be considered fairly

662
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:51.800
normal if not for his unmoving stature. He wears drab clothes that are usually

663
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.320
hard to identify beyond a long dustcoat
and pants. He is described to have

664
00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:00.039
the appearance of a balding man with
dark colored hair, white skin, and

665
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:05.599
distinct eyes. Most reports claimed them
to be unnaturally large like headlights with catlike

666
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:10.480
pupils or no pupils and irises at
all. In occult history, the rain

667
00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:15.119
man is said to move with the
rain clouds, giving them feeling like an

668
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:22.119
avatar. During World War One,
a German infantry division was in the midst

669
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.880
of a muddy firefight. In the
chaos, it happened was writing a message

670
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:30.599
to send back to Berlin about the
division's progress. The firefight had been intermittent,

671
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:36.360
lasting several days. Rain had been
pouring down, frequently filling the trenchets.

672
00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.559
The soldier wrote in his journal,
I was lighting my latter a quasting

673
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.559
for the enforcements two days ago have
been all of dissidence. A gunshot stopped,

674
00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:53.320
complete silence, as if a drowning
back could skip to beat. For

675
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:58.880
a moment, I thought so firefights
had entered, was fought to have bopped,

676
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:02.239
so I was the only sound I
could hear. I was tempted to

677
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:07.320
follow asleep, but not Once I
saw him, I noticed that's the gunfire

678
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:12.480
stopped. That there was more light
behind me, as if someone had walked

679
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.719
in this a torch. But when
I turned around to see the soldier,

680
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:22.119
I saw no such theme or only
two yellow eyes and the ash black coat.

681
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:28.679
I pulled out mine bayonet and challenged
him, Hey, hey, fine

682
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.880
boy, you've answered to play pockey
parky. The only sound I heard was

683
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:37.639
the rain intensifying, and the man
turned and left, gliding out into the

684
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:42.280
trenches. I followed, but as
soon as I bent out, I was

685
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:47.599
greeted this deafening gun five once again, and no ash black man. A

686
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.440
police report was made during the nineteen
seventies. Yeah, it was nighttime raining.

687
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.519
It would have been the perfect time
for a crook to jump out and

688
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.480
mug somebody. It was about five
feet visibility. We were searching for this

689
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:07.519
guy that supposedly robbed shops. At
this time, Me and that douchebag Harrison

690
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.000
were patrolling around, walking towards the
corner on the block with no one in

691
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:15.119
sight, and suddenly, like it, like magic, that this crook ran

692
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:19.280
from straight behind us. We were
about to chase his ass down when he

693
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.599
landed on his back. He'd run
into the strong man wearing a tank top,

694
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:28.400
leather jacket, and long hair.
We assumed he's just some random man

695
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:34.400
wandering the streets until he saw his
eyes. They were blank white. Why

696
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.519
does the sheet of paper? He
just stood there as this criminal was throwing

697
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:43.880
insults at him you fucking hide on, which gave us time to cuff him

698
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.199
and head back to the car.
When I looked back, the guy was

699
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:52.519
fucking gone. I still have no
idea where he could have gone. There's

700
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.480
no doors or alley's for at least
fifty yards, and he was nowhere to

701
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.719
be seen running off or anything.
He just sucking vanished. What the hey,

702
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.440
don't don't worry about it, Paul. He was probably just like I

703
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.639
don't know, Oh, shut the
man. He was a man, pro

704
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:10.000
al right, he thought you were
going to pop him for selling selling that

705
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:21.320
ass Fox show. He's a good
guy, whether a legend or an actual

706
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.119
entity. The rain Man does not
seem to have good intentions. Some stories

707
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:30.440
end innocently enough, but some have
more sinister ends, and it's whispered among

708
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:35.519
believers. What happens when he shows
up. First, you will hear rain,

709
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:42.400
intense rain. Then you'll hear footsteps, intense footsteps, bootsteps which are

710
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.519
intense footsteps. Your home will creak
and moan, even if it's brand new.

711
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:50.920
As the drenched man enters your house, you will open the door as

712
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.280
if it was unlocked. You will
hear the water drift from his coat to

713
00:58:54.360 --> 00:59:00.199
the floor intensely. The footsteps will
get closer as he approaches to you.

714
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:04.559
I would I would assume the flip
steps to get closer as he approaches me.

715
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.039
But stay in bed, pretend you're
asleep, listen to the rain,

716
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:14.079
and if you dare look at the
rain man in the eyes, you're already

717
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:28.159
done for Ah the rain man.
A that's right. Well let's do this.

718
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:30.400
Let's let's swap it up a little
bit. Let's let's take it into

719
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.920
the new era, not the new
millennium. I'm not that far. Nope,

720
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:37.880
Dave, what do you what do
you got for us? Let's let's

721
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:42.599
talk some science about this kind of
stuff. I'm tired of the folklore.

722
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.440
Well, no, you're gonna get
more folklore. I'm never tired of folklore.

723
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:51.320
I was just kidding anyway. So
rainmaking kind of um it hit a

724
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.199
peak in the eighteen hundreds and up
into the nineteen thirties with the dust Bowl.

725
00:59:55.199 --> 00:59:59.719
I mean, there was a guy
who worked through Kansas in the e

726
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:05.159
nineties known as Melbourne, the rain
Wizard. A lot of these guys kind

727
01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:09.440
of operated under the same system.
They would they would have chemicals, they

728
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.639
each had their own special concoction,
it would evaporate, was supposed to go

729
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:17.159
up and create rain, and if
there was rain, they would get paid.

730
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.639
And this was a pretty you know, common practice. It came in

731
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:23.800
and out of styles. A matter
of fact, even had a little resurgence

732
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:30.320
in the nineteen fifties. But of
these traveling men who swore they had the

733
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.719
direct channel, they could make the
rain happened when they wanted because they understood

734
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:39.079
how it worked. They called it
a ton of different things. They were

735
01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.880
cloud shakers sometimes, like when they
were really going for the professor the professor

736
01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:52.320
science man approach, they called it
pluviculture. Sure, yeah, why not?

737
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.519
Really catchy. And there's some really
interesting yeah rain makers. There is

738
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:01.039
a really interesting story. Um and
I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit here,

739
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.119
but The Mind Palace is a really
great podcast, and they do a great

740
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:13.039
story about this guy, a guy
named Charles, Charles Mallory Hatfield was a

741
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.320
fairly famous rainmaker. As a matter
of fact, the blue one a rainmaker,

742
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:22.039
heartbreaker? What what kind of rainmaker? Fairly famous one? Fair Like,

743
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:27.800
I'm so, I'm not there,
I wasn't there, I wasn't you.

744
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:30.440
You tried to shove my face into
it and I wouldn't sniff it.

745
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:37.199
Uh. So he has a matter
of fact, the movie The Rainmaker on

746
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.119
the fifties, nineteen fifty eight,
I think it was not the George Clooney

747
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.920
one, No, is based on
this guy. Wait, that's Peacemaker.

748
01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:46.320
Never mind, come on, I
think there was a rainmaker in recent times.

749
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.760
Don't don't matter none. And he
uh, he would study pluva culture.

750
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:54.480
Uh. He had his own uh, he had his own kind of

751
01:01:54.639 --> 01:02:00.400
system, his his his secret mix
and he would take us out. And

752
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.800
part of the scam flammery of this
is that it's it's very difficult to prove.

753
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.440
How do you know how much rain
was going to arrive? So how

754
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.239
do you know if these guys affect
rain? You know, and this is

755
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:13.960
a problem that we have even to
this day. But so what would happen

756
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:17.840
is he would mix up his his
chemicals as a big evaporation tank and let

757
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.320
them all disperse. And you know, if there was rain in the next

758
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.920
county, you say, oh,
well the wind carried it over there.

759
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.840
Sure, um, you know,
sorry, but you know it worked,

760
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.760
just didn't work here, and you
can collect money from that. Now,

761
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.599
Hatfield got himself in a lot of
weird trouble in the city of San Diego.

762
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:44.880
And this was back in This is
in nineteen fifteen. Now he had

763
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:50.280
already made a name for himself in
an La also up in the Yukon territory.

764
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.239
I mean, he'd traveled a lot, and he had he'd gotten paid.

765
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:58.880
Yukon was sort of a washy.
He was supposed to get ten thousand

766
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.079
dollars. He ended up getting eleven
hundred for expenses and then he skipped down.

767
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:05.519
Wow, but it's like anything else, and you know Internet, you

768
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.800
know this, this sort of thing
could still happen today because the people who

769
01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:13.079
believe will manufacture the excuse for him. You know, he didn't even when

770
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.760
he failed to create rain, the
believers, you know, we were like,

771
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.559
oh, you know, no,
that's why he didn't work. He's

772
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.440
the best. And so finally he
runs up up against the city of San

773
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:29.039
Diego and he tells them, he
tells that not only will he fill their

774
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.679
reservoir, his initial plan was,
tell you what, I won't charge you

775
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:38.159
anything for rain unless it's over forty
inches. Oh geez, right, I

776
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:42.440
mean, He's like, I'm then
you want rain, you don't pay me

777
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:46.119
unless you get rain with a capital
R, with a capital I and a

778
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:52.159
capital H. Now at which point
though, he would charge one thousand dollars

779
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:55.320
per inch up to fifty inches,
and then it's free again. Wow.

780
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.880
So he's just functionally saying, I'm
going to bring this much rain or it's

781
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:03.480
free, but if I bring a
lot of rain, you owe me ten

782
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:08.599
thousand dollars. Until I bring this
my train in the right, it's free

783
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:11.639
again. And I imagine him trying
to Okay, no, no, this

784
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:15.039
is this is our this is our
rain Pro Family Plus package. Okay,

785
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:18.039
up to here, you know,
thirty nine inches, you don't pay a

786
01:04:18.159 --> 01:04:21.440
thing. What if I only get
forty two inches? You only two thousand

787
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:26.000
dollars? You understand there's two inches
above forty that's two thousand dollars everybody.

788
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.119
So he goes through this and the
council voted four to one and they say,

789
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.559
fine, we'll give you ten thousand
dollars when you when you fill our

790
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:41.400
reservoir. He's like, you got
it, let's do this and he sets

791
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.719
to work. And on January fifth, nineteen sixteen, it started to rain

792
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:51.159
and it didn't stop. Oh no, and it rained and it rained,

793
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:59.519
it started to destroy bridges, up
trains that it destroyed or overflowed the sweetwater

794
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:03.920
damn and the lower Ote Lake.
Uh, damn, it was not it

795
01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:12.039
was not Ote. And then the
truly not Ote because it then broke killed

796
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:15.800
twenty people, ultimately resulting in about
three point five million dollars worth of damage

797
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:25.000
and well well over fifty oh okay, free right. So, as you

798
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:30.159
can imagine, now there's a little
dispute between Hatfield and this city council,

799
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.519
the San Diego City Council, because
there he's like, hey, as promised,

800
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:36.360
give me my ten g. They're
like, there's three point five million

801
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:43.639
dollars worth of damage, and so
we sh the court rules it's an act

802
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:47.679
of God. But the city council
straight up says, all right, buddy,

803
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:54.480
if you sign this paper saying you
are responsible for what happened here,

804
01:05:55.039 --> 01:06:00.360
of course we'll pay you your money, and him realizing well, then I'm

805
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.719
on the hook for all this damage. I can't do it, um,

806
01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:04.760
you know. And and if he
did, then he has to go to

807
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.719
in court of lot and say like, well, no, I'm not that

808
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:11.119
response, you know, like they
caught him. They caught him, and

809
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.360
he ended up leaving town so um. Anyway, that's kind of a fun

810
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:16.079
story these guys, and there's there's
many of them that kind of move from

811
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:21.360
town to town and operated this very
similar uh kind of scam and just to

812
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:25.960
hope that it worked. Um.
But and like I said, there was

813
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:30.480
a little resurgence in the fifties.
Um. But then actual cloud seeding came

814
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.079
along. Yeah. Um. And
this is the what what what is important

815
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:43.159
is you're you're giving clouds condensation nuclei, which naturally is is anything dust already

816
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:47.360
frozen particle uh in a lot of
bacteria, anything small that it can all

817
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:54.760
form around. And so there's a
number of different chemicals including just regular salt,

818
01:06:55.440 --> 01:07:00.920
um, silver iodide, potassium iodide, uh, dry ice, just

819
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:04.079
a solid carbon dioxide. Throw that
up in there. In some cases liquid

820
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:09.239
propane, I mean, whatever it
takes to get up into the clouds.

821
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:13.440
Not only does it give the clouds
something to form around, but it also

822
01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:17.480
can condenses the liquid in the cloud. Um. And and here's the thing.

823
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:23.360
The big debate here, like I
said earlier, is does this I

824
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:28.639
mean it you can you can get
a cloud to rain when you want,

825
01:07:29.039 --> 01:07:31.400
Is it going to rain more?
Well, that's impossible to know because you

826
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:34.199
never knew what was actually going to
fall out in the first place. Yea

827
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:39.480
um. And so it does give
you some measure of control. You can

828
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.719
you can find a cloud, if
there are clouds that are going to rain,

829
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:46.840
you can affect when they rain.
You can you can speed that up,

830
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.000
um for example. That's why I
mentioned at the beginning of the podcast

831
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:59.920
the Beijing Olympics, the Chinese government
loaded artillery guns and they were bombarding because

832
01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:02.480
they were supposed to be a huge
downpour the night of the opening games.

833
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:08.159
And interesting fun fact, the bird
Nest, you know, the big Beijing

834
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:13.920
Olympic stadium, it was originally supposed
to have a roof, but the price

835
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.279
of steel skyrocketed and they were like, get no roof. Wow, yeah,

836
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.079
that's why there's no roof on it. So then the Chinese government was

837
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:25.880
like, well then then it can't
rain. Can fix it? Yeah.

838
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:30.079
Now here's the interesting thing. The
Chinese government actually does this on the rag

839
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.439
for their holiday national days October first
every year, so it's just around the

840
01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:40.439
corner. They actually regularly do this
cloud seating. They blast all the clouds

841
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.279
because then it caused it to terrain. The rain scrubs the pollution out,

842
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.079
so on the National Day, there's
no haze. It's a nice, clear,

843
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:49.399
beautiful day. This is a thing
they've done for a long time,

844
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:53.439
so they actually really know what they're
doing here. They were actually able to

845
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:58.600
keep it from raining on the opening
ceremonies by bombarding these clouds while they were

846
01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:02.239
still far away and having them dump
their rain elsewhere. Crazy. Yeah,

847
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.239
so this is that's that's not hogman. This is a thing that that happens

848
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:11.399
all the time now. But you
need a cloud that's gonna rain. No

849
01:09:11.479 --> 01:09:14.960
one's creating rain out of nowhere,
if which is why we still have a

850
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.960
drought in exactly. Yep, Yeah, California. They'd find a way to

851
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:20.960
do it, you know, like
if you could, if you could make

852
01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:25.680
rain, they would have they done, would have made it interesting that there's

853
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.279
that you have like step two,
but you you you really can't do anything

854
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:36.079
for like step one, like yeah, getting getting enough saturation enough vapor up

855
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:42.159
there too to then shoot stuff into
well. I think I think it's like

856
01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:45.880
it's like saying, I know how
to corral a horse, but I can't

857
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.239
make a horse. If the horse
is already there, I how to catch

858
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:53.560
it. Yeah, and I can
ride it, but I can't make a

859
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.960
horse if there's no horses around.
Yeah, yeah, I get that.

860
01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:01.199
I get that. I just I
feel like making a cloud is easier than

861
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:04.840
making a horse, right, apparently
not. I don't know. There's that

862
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.720
artist that makes a cloud in a
room. It's a big deal. You

863
01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:10.560
can make a cloud in your mouth. You can make a cloud in your

864
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:15.199
mouth. Make a cloud in your
mouth. Yeah, nuts, Yeah,

865
01:10:15.319 --> 01:10:18.119
So there you go. That's I
think there is a weather witch that lives

866
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:25.720
in Chicago because part of my job
is gardening and making sure all the plants

867
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:30.399
are watered and everything, and so
I watch the weather a lot and radar

868
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:35.159
stuff like that, the reports,
the forecasts, and I swear to God,

869
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:43.920
the forecasts will say one hund rain
showers all day every day. And

870
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:48.640
you watch the radar and the whole
screen is filled with all the you're painting

871
01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:53.119
with all the colors that wine,
my friend, and there will not be

872
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.640
a drop that comes out here.
And then you watch the radar and the

873
01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:01.920
clouds literally split around the city.
Well, which makes sense. There's a

874
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:05.960
lot of heat coming off the city
that creates a big thermal client for them

875
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:10.800
to try to get around. I
I'm the same way. Which weather which

876
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:14.680
I like you? I like your
version better. I have the same problem.

877
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:16.680
I bike everywhere. I bike to
work, I bike everywhere, and

878
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:23.760
so I've come to really watch the
weather. Not once this summer have I

879
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.119
made a decision based on the weather
report and have that turn out to be

880
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.359
right. Right, it is shot. So now I'm just like, I

881
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.800
don't care. What what does it
say? It's gonna literally rain golf ball

882
01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:35.239
size hail. I'm I'm barrying my
bike. I'm just no helmet today.

883
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:39.479
Yeah, it just there's there's you
can't account for it. You mightles will

884
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:42.640
just get used to the idea of
sometimes you're gonna get whaled on. I

885
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.239
got caught. We had a huge
rainstorm about a week ago. Oh it

886
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.800
was. It was massive, and
um I didn't know about it because it

887
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:53.880
wasn't I mean like like they were
like, it's gonna rain right, and

888
01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.680
I was. I was biking home
from work and it was it was spitting

889
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:00.720
and my my my ride home was
about six miles and I had actually u

890
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:06.199
biked right by one of my co
workers homes and I had I was passed

891
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:09.920
it by about four blocks or so, and I was still like a good

892
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:14.319
five minutes or so from getting home. And I get a text message.

893
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:16.960
And I live in the future,
so I get a text message on my

894
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.560
watch and I so I can ride
and read and not die. And he

895
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.760
said, hey, do you want
me to go check the office because,

896
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:29.760
you know, because of the rain, to make sure everything's okay. I'm

897
01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:32.279
like, it's barely raining, dude. Oh no. And I had just

898
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.800
ridden by his house, I mean, not five minutes before, and I

899
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:42.159
was like, calm down, brother, like it's it's it's not even and

900
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:47.520
there I did not realize there was
a solid wall of go to hell,

901
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:53.520
you to death rain that was chasing
me north. I didn't know it was

902
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:57.279
right behind me and it won.
Yeah. And so as I'm looking at

903
01:12:57.319 --> 01:13:00.800
this, going, dude, why
is he asking about? It just enveloped

904
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:02.680
me and you could I couldn't even
ride in it. The wind was everywhere.

905
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:05.720
Oh yeah, it was just just
just sheets of rain. I had

906
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:10.000
to like huddle up behind a building. Well I just figured out what the

907
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.720
hell I was going to do next. Oh yeah. But it was just

908
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.560
so funny that it I didn't know
it was there. And if if I

909
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:17.199
had, like if I had known
I could have made it home, I

910
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.760
could have like burned it and really
gotten there. But I was just like,

911
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:26.319
dude, do do do? They
just got just got destroyed. I

912
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:31.319
love rain, Yeah, yeah,
all of it. I'm always happy when

913
01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:40.800
when it's raining out. Thank you, garbage m oh at least I'm just

914
01:13:40.920 --> 01:13:46.039
like her. This is all a
form of what we have talked about many

915
01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:51.640
moons ago sympathetic magic. It's a
rigual using objects or actions resembling or symbolically

916
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:58.000
associated with the event or person overwinch
influence, assault, And that's how you

917
01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:03.880
do it. That's rainmaking for you. Mm hmmm, and very sorry.

918
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:11.279
It's in a huckster's nutshells. So
now it's time for us to load up

919
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.399
our chemical cannons. Oh yeah,
we've got to bombard these clowns and tell

920
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:23.359
the puns rain down. You want
to go first? Want me go first?

921
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:26.520
I don't know what the forecast look
like. I'm going first. Okay.

922
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:30.560
Way back in the day in Wallachia, there was um whenever they needed

923
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:34.680
rain. Sure you could go ahead
and make an effigy out of clay.

924
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:41.880
That's fine. But if you really
needed rain, if you really loved your

925
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:45.640
family, well then you need a
colloine silver. That is what you need.

926
01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:57.840
Yeah, protect yourself from Vlad these
lad temperature these he's a Kenyan Muslim

927
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:02.600
and he's one of these turks.
Yeah, you think somebody push you around,

928
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:11.279
but I tell you, as a
citizen page all the magyars in the

929
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:15.760
world, do you know take on
these boyers? Nothing but a fat cat

930
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:24.399
boyers. So you got for uh, Let's see, I have a type

931
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:28.479
of ritual where you go through all
the normal procedures. Huh, and you're

932
01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:33.359
expecting to invoke a cryptid oh,
but instead you get a disappointing and mundane

933
01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:41.079
result. It's sandhill crane making nice. I like that. You know,

934
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:47.079
there's a large city in Australia that
continually, uh grapples with drought. And

935
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:53.600
what they found is that if they
get Australian lizards, those large Australian lizards

936
01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:57.119
called goanas, you know, if
they get enough of them together, actually

937
01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:02.039
they are able to affect the weather
paths and actually brings some precipitation, which

938
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:10.720
makes they're known as the Melbourne the
rain lizards. Crokey. Indeed, I

939
01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:12.960
need to work on my Australian action. I feel like I should have it.

940
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.000
But every time. I word,
it's not there. I know,

941
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:16.760
me too. It's one of those
things where I feel like I had it

942
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.039
when I was younger or something.
Right, Yeah, there's a point I

943
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:24.520
had it all right. Rounding us
out. Some Southwestern native tribes in the

944
01:16:24.600 --> 01:16:29.760
late nineteenth century would perform a ceremony
after a large, delicious meal. They

945
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:34.560
would grill some beef and just zone
out, which became known as the Hopie

946
01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:40.479
steak trance. Nice, I like
that one. I want to go into

947
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.520
a steak trans Yeah, me too
too, me too, me too,

948
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:45.760
yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah. That was puns,

949
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:51.600
his puns. And now it's time
to roll out the huge lap of stone.

950
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:57.720
That's right, and sprinkle you with
with the water. We don't have

951
01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:11.840
to bring forth the daily huge of
listener, man, now is the time

952
01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:17.359
for you to make it rain,
dear listener, rain rain shall starting up

953
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:23.279
with Alec Alec Alec. The only
Alec I know is the Guinness kind.

954
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:28.239
What about Baldwin? Damn it?
Oh? And if I didn't just prove

955
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:34.800
enough already, what about smart Alec? Which one is this one? It's

956
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:40.800
just Alec? Okay, hi,
just Alec. Alec brings us a show

957
01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:44.000
suggestion. Oh great, yeah,
which, thank you very much for that.

958
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:48.319
Alec actually is a PhD student in
the UK, although he's originally from

959
01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:55.720
the good old United S. Stitch
of America sent through clenched teeth because I

960
01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.199
can't cry again every time I say
it. That's how emotional I get about

961
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:06.640
America. Nothing nothing on that One's
just gonna let that one. You're gonna

962
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:13.439
let that squall pass. Uh,
So, he writes, I just discovered

963
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:15.920
your podcast and cannot stop listening.
Oh, thank you. That is especially

964
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:19.439
true when I'm drudging through data and
your show provides some interesting facts and some

965
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:26.680
laughs. The facts are interesting and
the laughs some are are there, there's

966
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:31.560
some of them. The facts are
laughable. Um, that's true here,

967
01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:36.640
absolutely correct. Kind of grudge do
I have against us? Hey man,

968
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:41.520
take it easy on us? All
right, all right, sorry, I'm

969
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:45.520
sorry. Um. Alex studies animal
behavior, although he used to be a

970
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:51.840
zoo archaeologist. Oh that's pretty awesome. That's digging for zoos, gidget tracking

971
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:57.640
them down, and currently focuses primarily
on the hunting patterns of cryptic species such

972
01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:01.520
as leopards. Leopards yep, it
says. Despite being a scientist, I've

973
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:06.039
always been fascinated with mysteries and the
paranormal. Well what scientist isn't drawn to

974
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:11.479
mysteries? Wellpe, Well, I
think that any good man and or woman

975
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:15.960
of science should be drawn to mysteries. That's right. And everything was paranormal

976
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:19.479
until science made it normal. Science
is mysterious. It is, it is.

977
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:25.920
Indeed, just ask dark matter.
It's certainly if you can find it.

978
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:30.319
Oh, you're per oscious. Thank
you, Alec, Thanks Alec,

979
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:35.039
Dave. We've heard from Charles.
Oh hello, Charles, M boy,

980
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.760
I'm fighting it. I'm fighting it. No, I'm not gonna fight it.

981
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.760
What do you think Charles is in
charge of puns? As it turns

982
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:45.680
out, I thought he beat in
charge of our days and our nights.

983
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:56.199
You're wrong, but nope, Ladies
and gentlemen, nets bad improvly Yeah no,

984
01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:00.399
no, that was bad. Improbably
excellent, goaltending you stopped a bad

985
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:06.520
thing from happening. Charles wrote in
with some puns before, and he's got

986
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:12.399
some new ones. Bring it.
Charles, Chaz, Chico, Charlie,

987
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:18.439
Chuck, Charlemagne, Charlie, Zimo
Schwa himbo, Yeah, I got I

988
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:23.800
really reached for that one. This
one is about Charles. When Charles Fort,

989
01:20:24.199 --> 01:20:27.439
Oh, it was a kid,
Charles today Fort. That's right,

990
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:30.199
Charles Spanish today Fort. Yeah.
Yeah, when Charles Fort was a kid,

991
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:33.119
he used to take all the blankets
and pillows and build a clubhouse.

992
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:41.680
No girls allowed except maybe a nurse. It was a Charles Blanket Fort nice.

993
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.199
A few years after that he entered
his troubling teen years, you know,

994
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:49.920
thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. Wow, he's a he's on a heater.

995
01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:54.880
Can anyone stop a madman? Charles? When he gets too warm,

996
01:20:54.960 --> 01:21:00.359
you need to cool off by reading
the Book of the Fan. Scientists recently

997
01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:05.880
discovered that subatomic particles wear clothes.
Really. Yeah, they're called panta quarks.

998
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:15.760
I like that many a pun from
Bullstone? WHOA, I dig that?

999
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:17.479
Thank you, Charles, Yeah,
thank you very much, Charles.

1000
01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:23.760
You're an accomplished pun smith. Caleb's
up, Caleb, look out, order

1001
01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:27.640
up, Caleb Pinding, he's serving
it up hot, Caleb Wrights. Love

1002
01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.279
the Go Man episode, Me too, especially when you ventured into Native American

1003
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:41.039
mound builders. Thank you, Caleb. Dave. We've heard from Andrew from

1004
01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:45.039
Kentucky. WHOA do you know him? I don't think I did. You

1005
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:48.079
guys go to the same Kentucky and
union meetings. No do you guys both

1006
01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:53.760
have getting Lucky and Kentucky bumper stickers
on your trucks shirts, but not bumper

1007
01:21:53.840 --> 01:22:00.640
stick Oh I actually do have that
shirt. Really? Yeah, I mean

1008
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.000
I know that in my mind I
just invented it, but I know I

1009
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:08.600
couldn't possibly have actually invented that.
Andrew says, Hello, Hello Andrew,

1010
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:13.399
Hello, Hello, Hey Andrew,
Andrew. Can you hear me? Andrew

1011
01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:15.720
answer me? You smoked son of
a bitch. I feel like he's playing

1012
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:23.119
with us now. He says he
recently discovered the podcast and it is unequivocally

1013
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:26.239
one of the best teas I ever
listened to. Well, Hello, get

1014
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:31.479
yourself out there more Andrew. Yeah, dare your friends by a beer?

1015
01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:34.119
For whoever told you about it?
And if it was, you buy you

1016
01:22:34.239 --> 01:22:41.560
a beer. Andrew has spread the
gospel and get this Lanna. He works

1017
01:22:41.600 --> 01:22:46.079
at a library. Hello, I'm
your hype man today. Can you take

1018
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.760
us to the bridge please? Did
you know, Andrew, do you work

1019
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:54.359
at the same library as Lana?
Yeah, Lanna, Andrew Andrew Lana.

1020
01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.279
He said he actually had a patron
recently asked if any of them had any

1021
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:01.800
interest in the parent normal and if
they could help them find a supernatural books

1022
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:05.199
in the old labary. Sweet,
And he said, in the midst of

1023
01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:11.840
showing them, they struck up a
conversation about cryptids. He recommended our show

1024
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:17.359
and recommended by librarians. That's right. And the person since came back ranting

1025
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:25.039
about sandhill cranes. Yeah, thank
you, Andrew. You are a true

1026
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:30.720
gentleman and a literal scholar. Yeah. S he's got a post script.

1027
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.520
Oh sweet, bring it, Andrew
says, I feel they need to ask

1028
01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:39.359
if you have heard about the latest
book buzz Oh. It seems that esteemed

1029
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:45.159
author Harper Lee has another manuscript one
that was about hunting cryptids in the fifties.

1030
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:48.960
Really Yeah. After some controversy,
the book has been released under its

1031
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:54.600
original title, Go Hunt a Squatchman. I smelled it and I was so

1032
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:59.279
glad. That's awesome. That's a
that's a you know what, that's a

1033
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.640
that's a winning life varying pun.
Right, there's some librarians pun well.

1034
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:10.279
I've got one here from Hannah Haya. Hannah. Hannah's a palindrome. It

1035
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:14.399
is palindrome. She gets you,
get you one way or the other.

1036
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.560
Hannah writes, I've recommended this show
to pretty much everyone I know who likes

1037
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:30.159
podcasts. Why pumped up guitar riff? Yeah? Why didn't we have that

1038
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.279
sooner? Your amusement at the word
hain't continues to make me smile because here

1039
01:24:34.279 --> 01:24:40.079
in the South we paint our porch
roofs hain't blue to keep bad spirits away.

1040
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:45.000
Also wasps, same difference though,
truth, there's no difference between a

1041
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.119
haunting and a wasping. I'd say
wasps or worse. Yeah, it's also

1042
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:53.520
an alternate word for bitch when you
absolutely must call a woman unsavory but cannot

1043
01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:57.760
drop the big Bee and y'all's version
of the Raven was one of my favorite

1044
01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:00.199
things ever. Keep up the good
work. No puns, because I'm legit

1045
01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:03.760
the worst at them. Well,
you have to prove it, Hannah.

1046
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:08.439
That's right. There's a lot of
competition. You don't just get to declare

1047
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:15.199
it. We will decide who's the
worst and never apologize. Yeah, ever,

1048
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.640
never, Thanks Hannah, Thanks Hannah, Dave, what I believe we've

1049
01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:27.880
heard back from Oirish Daggle The Oirishtaggle. The last time I heard Aristaggle was

1050
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:31.279
shitting in drinking a point. It
comes in like nothing ever went wrong in

1051
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:34.560
his whole time life, walks up
to me and says, hey about a

1052
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:39.479
point for me. Trouble, So
we all got trouble. This is just

1053
01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:45.600
rambl like that. It's just looking
at Dave like where's he going? He

1054
01:25:46.800 --> 01:25:50.720
and I could have gotten it somewhere, but we don't have that much time.

1055
01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:55.520
Like, yeah, I realized that
I wasn't gonna pay off hi irishtaggle.

1056
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.119
Irish Stagle says, thanks for making
me laugh and learn at the same

1057
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.600
time. That's he starts off,
and we appreciate that. And he says

1058
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:05.600
he just finished Flood Myths two and
wanted to chime in with some related his

1059
01:26:05.760 --> 01:26:09.640
story. So wait, So the
Mayans get a lot of credit for their

1060
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.720
advanced mathematics and astronomy, but they
weren't the only culture in the Americas.

1061
01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:16.239
But some advanced knowledge not surprising.
That's right, We're an industrious continent.

1062
01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:21.159
He's talking about the Incan Empire and
what is now Peru. They were great

1063
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:26.720
at architecture and metalworking, but a
recent discovery on the top of Machupicchu shows

1064
01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:30.800
another talent indicative of having survived a
global flood. It is not in the

1065
01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:34.760
greatest condition now, but it is
a diagram of the human body showing their

1066
01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:40.680
immense and intimate knowledge of its workings
in a time that predates Da Vinci's own

1067
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:47.000
famous diagram by thousands of years.
Thousands of years. Archaeologists have taken to

1068
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:55.199
calling it the Antediluvian Peruvian Vitruvian.
Man. Wow, that is a top

1069
01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.119
ten pun right there. That is
a top ten pun. Or your steago

1070
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:03.319
got some gunness a minute he just
goes, bam you what a good fight.

1071
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:12.159
That was awesome. Way to go, daggle. Also, because I

1072
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:15.359
form most of that, did not
realize it was a pun hook fish hooked.

1073
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:19.479
There you go. He had me. Oh, Flora, oh got

1074
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:23.960
us an email? You got it? We should read it, you son

1075
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:28.199
of a bitch cock boss. This
is This is usually the part in the

1076
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:30.920
podcast where Flora's like, well,
what is it, dude? What is

1077
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:41.720
it? Um? Clarivoyant Katie,
who who everyone knows is now famous because

1078
01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:47.520
Clarivoyant Katie gave us Blue Reavers the
reverse or revers. She writes, Hi,

1079
01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:50.920
guys, Hi, I live in
Bloomington, Indiana, where they hold

1080
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:55.520
Crompus night. You guys would be
more than welcome to crash at our place,

1081
01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:57.520
or we should at least meet up
so I can buy you a beer.

1082
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.479
I'll kill you in on all the
fun, weird things Bloomington has to

1083
01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:03.520
offer. I'm yes, I accept. I think we'll probably find a place

1084
01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:08.680
to stay. That's just my gut
instinct. But I accept beers. Yeah,

1085
01:28:08.760 --> 01:28:12.600
yeah, yeah, no, I
actually you come with us? Well?

1086
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:17.359
I think today I actually replied to
one of Katie's Facebook messages because I

1087
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:21.119
posted the crumpas Oh the movie,
the trailer, yeah, because yeah,

1088
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:25.319
people have been sending it to us. One of our listeners, Amy posted,

1089
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.159
I got to see the whole she
had the trailer. Yeah, a

1090
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:33.039
lot of people posted to us.
But I gotta tell you looks a little

1091
01:28:33.399 --> 01:28:36.640
disappointing, but I'll still go see
it. Here's the thing. It confused

1092
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:42.920
me because it appeared to be from
the actors. They chose to be a

1093
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:46.960
comedy, right, and then it
wasn't right. Yeah, yeah, and

1094
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:50.640
the whole I don't know. The
whole premise, of course, as all

1095
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:57.720
believers know, is not that Crumpus
shuts down and terrorizes one house for the

1096
01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:02.479
evening I you know what though,
here's the thing. Anything there's and I

1097
01:29:02.600 --> 01:29:08.439
think that we are we you and
I flow our crampas rich Okay we you

1098
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:13.800
have a badass Crumpus sweater for crown
out Loud. Yeah. Um, you

1099
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:17.680
know we live in a world surrounded
by crampas, but very few people know

1100
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:23.520
about crampas true, and so anything
that raises the general awareness I'm all for.

1101
01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.359
So yeah, we're absolutely I'm calling
it now. Well their boy and

1102
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:30.720
Katie we are going to Bloomington.
Yeah, we're gonna get beers, We're

1103
01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:33.399
all gonna get trashed, and we're
all gonna go and we'll I don't know,

1104
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:38.840
flip a coin, ro shambo or
just all mark ourselves as targets.

1105
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:43.279
Right, you know, we'll go
through this this Crumpus knocked hount haunted house,

1106
01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:45.039
yes, in good time and porium
that they have done there and we're

1107
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.760
gonna drag Jay Nathan Couch along with
us. Yes, oh man, just

1108
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:54.279
have a party so all of our
Indiana fans can can meet us down there.

1109
01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:56.880
I you know what, I want
to roll Posse strong here. I

1110
01:29:56.960 --> 01:30:00.359
want Greg Bach, I want Ken
Hype, I want dark marks off.

1111
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:03.079
I want to just roll down there
with like the biggest bunch of weird asses

1112
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:09.000
we can fit into a minivan.
We need a minivan. Also, Oh,

1113
01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.720
here's a good question, listeners.
If Flora and I had a minivan,

1114
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.079
what would it be called? Can't
be the Mystery Machine, I know,

1115
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:18.000
or we could just call it the
Revermobile. Cover it in barbed wire

1116
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:23.640
and skulls bodies. Yeah. So
anyway, thank you, thank you,

1117
01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:28.439
Katie. Thanks Katie, and we
got one last one here going on a

1118
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:31.560
high note, although I mean clairvoying
Katie's offers pretty high note, great,

1119
01:30:31.600 --> 01:30:36.319
pretty great. I'm out. Joe, Joe, Just Joe Joe writes,

1120
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:42.199
just discovered your podcast instant fangirl planning
on embarrassing my seventeen year old at the

1121
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:45.000
beach tomorrow binging and laughing out loud. Gonna be great. Hell yeah,

1122
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:50.119
I love that, Thanks Joe.
Our podcast should be used as an embarrassment

1123
01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:54.079
canon. I think that is a
great use of it. Yeah, I

1124
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:58.800
believe that. So I hope it
now granted because we everyone knows how listener

1125
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:02.039
mail works right here now it has
already been deployed. The seventeen year olds

1126
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:05.600
probably still in tears, refusing to
talk to you. Joe, but well

1127
01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:14.199
played. Yeah you're ruined the bach
what with your enjoying yourself? Right?

1128
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:18.039
What if it's different? What if
whatever? Seventy year olds like, mom,

1129
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:20.600
could you just take the could you
take the headphones out? We're all

1130
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:23.920
just trying to have fun here.
Well, yeah, will you join us?

1131
01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.960
Yeah? Could you join us?
And could you engage? Stop laughing,

1132
01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:32.399
Mom, stop laughing jokes on you. Joe? Yeah no, no,

1133
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:38.279
Joe wins either way. Thank you
all very much for your writings.

1134
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:44.279
So for wetting our fertile fields.
That's right now we can have a bountiful

1135
01:31:44.319 --> 01:31:48.039
harvest for one more year. M
be looking for a supplemental soon. Yeah

1136
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:53.359
oh yeah, yeah yeah. We're
eating this entire crate of cookies. It's

1137
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:56.439
been backing up for too long,
too many cookies to be eaten. Say

1138
01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.600
time, we've got uh an eight
ounce glass of eight dots drinking glass and

1139
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:05.039
a big bag full of milk.
And where's coming go bafter glass full of

1140
01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:10.600
cookies, bagful of milk to hit
each other with the milk. I haven't

1141
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:14.239
had anything to drink in days.
Maybe that's the problem. My body's like,

1142
01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:15.960
well, we're gonna fake it till
you make it We're just gonna make

1143
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:21.000
you sound dronked till you can.
You can get us done while you're while

1144
01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:26.239
you're done sending the emails, We're
not done with tasking you with important things.

1145
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:30.039
Your mission, regardless of whether you
choose to accept it, is to

1146
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:34.119
write a five star review on iTunes, is to uh like us on Facebook,

1147
01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:41.359
follow us on the twitters, blurry
underscore photos where blurry photos the Facebook.

1148
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:44.159
Punch the donate button. I mean, you know what, give it

1149
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:51.680
a karate chop? Hi, uh, you know whatever, whatever power sound

1150
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:56.720
you want to make as you punch
that um and a keyop a keyop.

1151
01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:00.800
Yeah, and please if you like
what we're doing, don't forget other friends

1152
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:06.079
at the Chicago podcast Cooperative. How
about Campaign Dave. In the Campaign Podcast,

1153
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:13.000
a small consistent group of Chicago improvisers
played through an ongoing role playing game

1154
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:17.039
set in the Star Wars universe.
It's hosted by Cat Cool. Sounds like

1155
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:21.800
a really cool customer Cool or Cole. I'm not sure, sorry, Kat

1156
01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:27.760
or Kroll. Check those guys out. And yeah, thanks for supporting the

1157
01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:30.319
Chicago Podcast co Op and thank you
Chicago podcast. That sounds fun. Don't

1158
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:33.760
forget we're on Audible trial dot com
slash blurry Photos and you can get yourself.

1159
01:33:35.319 --> 01:33:38.680
Why do you not want someone to
read to you? It's so soothing

1160
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.479
When you were a child, that's
all you ever wanted. It's great Now

1161
01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:44.560
that you're an adult and you have
the rains, why turn your back on

1162
01:33:44.680 --> 01:33:48.319
it? You have, you're paying
taxes. At least you can do this

1163
01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:57.079
for yourself. It's free. But
anyways, for this episode of Blurry Photos,

1164
01:33:57.640 --> 01:34:01.039
I have been David the Rainman Flora, and I'm Dave the Dave who

1165
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:04.760
is Dave Stecco, not David Flora
because the Dave Flora is not David Stecco,

1166
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:08.279
and someone has to be the David
Stecco. So I'll be the David

1167
01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:14.920
Stecco. Oh Stecco, It's gonna
take a lot to drag me away.

1168
01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:23.279
There's nothing that a hundred men of
mark ever A dude, I bless the

1169
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:30.239
rains down in Africa. Gonna take
some time to do these. We never fires