Hi everyone. This is Christina and Carmen and it's just us today. There's
also no video. We're a mess, yes, but this is a Spooky
Tells the podcast for all things as spooky. And yeah, that's like I
was saying, there's no MG today. There's a hole in her house right
now. This is on purpose, various spooky things going on. Yeah,
yeah, her ac is getting fixed, and yeah, Christina's dying. Yeah,
I'm dying. I'm recovering from dying. Yeah. So we had a
very fun episode plan but it didn't go well. Though. That episode is
going to happen and I'm very excited for it when it does happen. But
in the meantime, we just put together this last minute episode from what we
do. It's how we roll, and you know what, it's still gonna
be fun. Carman has a listener story and after that, I have some
so a listener a while back messaged me on Instagram and said, can you
guys do dark nursery nursery rhymes? Because I think they probably had just listened
to and that's why we drink dark nursery rhymes. I was just gonna say
yeah, and let me tell you that it was a little hard. We
don't have as that many like dark nursery rhymes with backstories. So but you
know, I did what I could. And so that's today's topic. Because
it was very last minute, it is going to be a shorter episode.
But yeah, Kurvin, let's hear our listener story. Okay, this is
from Kevin from the southwest Side of Chicago, and I just want to say
south side, but I know it's the south Side. It's southwest Side.
I didn't leave the South Side for this. Very mean girls, Oh my
god. Okay, So Kevin says, I'm the oldest of four. I
have two brothers and one sister. I have a few stories. First story,
Once in a while, I get sleep paralysis. So I remember one
night I had one in my room that my little brother and I shared,
and he told me that night that I yelled so loud in my sleep.
I honestly believe I was running from something in my dream. M. It's
always scary when you wake up from I mean, I've never woke up screaming,
but I have woke up like in full sweat from whatever was going on,
which is usually like running away from something. Yeah, yeah, one
time, probably one of the worst nightmares I had. I woke up and
my face was so and this is my I need to get botox because I
I woke up and my I was what is it called when you I was
like making angry growing yes, yes, I was furrowing my yes, my
brows so much that my forehead like it was red like I was in Yeah.
Yeah. Wow. It's because in my dream I was confronting a guy
that did my friend wrong. So you know, I gotta defend my friends.
Oh, understandable. Okay, back to Kevin in his story, So,
Kevin went on to say, second story, I lost my best friend
who I've known since grade school to COVID two years ago, if I remember
correctly, So sorry for your lost Kevin. The day he passed, I
woke up to a Facebook message from his mom at five am. I couldn't
sleep all that night, so seeing that message, I couldn't believe it.
So I tried going back to sleep, but deep down I knew it was
real. A few nights later, I had a dream of him with all
the boys together, hanging out like good old times. We would always go
for bicycle rides through downtown or watch UFC fights. At Beatubs. He took
me to my first Cubs game. My girlfriend gifted me a Cubs jersey with
his last name football number. That's so sweet. Yeah, and I will
always forever wear that jersey to the games. But in my dream, I
remember asking him, I thought you were dead. Somehow in my dream,
I turned my head to look at something. I turned back to find my
best friend. He wasn't there anymore. Oh my god. Yeah, I
can't imagine how. I don't know how that must feel, like seeing somebody
and then for a second you forget that you're dreaming and then they're gone.
Yeah, And I mean, I think we both believe that, you know,
our loved ones do visit us in our dreams. So yeah, but
then to like wake up and remember, like, oh, they're not here
anymore when you saw them so vividly in your dream. Yeah, man,
it's very horrible. I've dream of our I was gonna say, he's our
collective. I dreamt of him a few times, but never in my dream
has he like been there and then disappeared. Like yeah, so like you
just you had your whole dream. He was a little dream and then you
just wake up and but he didn't disappear in that's even worse. No,
that's what I mean. Like then you're like, damn it, I can't
even in my dreams. I can't even have Yeah, wow, stay there
long enough? Right, Oh my god, that's so so sad. Mm
hmm. So a few more nights later, I got a text from his
phone from previous conversations we had a while ago. I swear to you,
I wasn't the only person who received the random text from his phone. I
kid you not. I was scared as fuck lol. I did end up
texting his mom. She said, maybe it's him saying goodbye. Oh my
god. Oh this that's part of sad. Till this day, I won't
upgrade or delete the text so I can see the conversations we had. No,
I get that, I get that. I'm so sad that. Uh
I think I upgraded my phone like once, and so my buddy that I
had in the Army who trigger war or content warning like died by suicide.
Like all our messages were gone. And then Twitter did this thing where they
deleted in active like profiles and so like everything was gone. Yeah, it's
sad. I completely understand that. And yeah, I wouldn't do either,
or I like screenshot everything like frantically. Yeah. Oh that's so trippy though
that everyone got a message. So then it goes on. Once in a
while, I do text his phone to let him know my life updates.
I'm sure he's I'm gonna cry, Kevin, Why, Oh I'm gonna cry?
Oh okay, let me let me try to get through this. So
every once in a while I text. I text his phone once in a
while to let him know my life updates. I'm sure he's proud of me
for getting accepted into the academy, and I can send a screenshot of the
random replies that scared me. Oh, he says, you can send a
screenshot you have the reply, Kevin, Oh man, Yeah, I mean,
if you want, I would. I believe you. There's no we
don't need to prove we believe. We believe you a hundred Yeah. I'd
be scared too, Yeah man, okay. So third story is about my
little brother, who I lost eight years ago due to a drowning accident.
Oh my god, I'm so sorry, so much loss. Till this day,
I can't read the article. But the day we buried my brother,
I felt his presence around. When we got back home, I kept looking
around. I do remember my uncle asking what's wrong, but I said nothing.
That same night, right before going to sleep, I heard a knock
on the door. I didn't open it, but my little sister did.
My mom asked who it was, and my sister said it was no one.
I honestly believe it was my little brother coming home. He would have
been twenty five years old today. Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.
Kevin, Kevin just making us cry. Okay, let me get it together,
let me compose myself. I am a twenty seven year old man,
ashamed and ambaried to say this, but it took me many months to sleep
in my own room because my brother and I shared a room. I would
always know I get it, Oh my god, yeah, especially after hearing
that knock on the door. I would yeah, yeah, it's like,
look, I get it. I love you, I miss you, but
don't come down, kid. Yeah it is my our mom. I don't
remember if she heard something or if she was just like like staying it out
to the you know, universe, so that our great grandmothers didn't come haunt
her. Because I think that somebody else in the family was being haunted by
her. So then I like, if someone was gonna haunt any family member,
it would have been me because she and I'm just gonna do it.
Yeah recipes, I say disrespectfully, yes of course, but yeah, so
remember our mom told us that she was haunting one of her das, so
one of our mom's dance and so then our mom would be like, masts
but if I masts like begging, and she's like, I got no,
I even miss you, but don't show yourself to me, Like please,
if you ever love me, please don't for sure. So he said that
I took a month to sleep in their shared room and he would sleep in
the salon next to his mom's room to sleep better. And he definitely believes
in ghosts. And then he just says, thank you for an amazing podcast.
It made my job go by fast, Kevin. We love those stories.
He sent me a nice and then I sent you because he sent something
right after that. So just like a little follow up, I hope I
forwarded it to you. Oh yes, yes, I see it. PS
adding some more info, my little brother is buried a famous cemetery known as
a Resurrection Cemetery. There's a famous legend known as Resurrection and Mary, a
woman who was killed and a hit and run in a suburb called Willowbrook.
She tends to appear on Archer Avenue asking for rides, then asks to stop
in front of the cemetery, and then suddenly disappears. Scary. I love
a woman asking for a ride and then just disappearing. I love a woman
asking for what she needs and leaving as soon as her needs are met.
Yes, yes, but yeah, I was like, oh, that's that
as an extra creepy Yeah, oh yeah, creepiness to all of it.
But yes, thank you Kevin for your stories. We loved all of them.
Also, you know, thank you for making us cry. And I
don't say that sarcastically. M you know, no, no, never,
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thank you for doing that. Okay, and we're back. And yes,
dark nursery rhymes, and let me tell you they were not easy to find.
I don't know, maybe we're just not as like weird as the English
and all those. I feel like maybe the English are more morbid because death
is sort of more I don't know. I don't want to say it's yeah,
till more taboo, like I feel like in Mexico. And I don't
know if it's just Mexico or all Latin Nominica, but like, I don't
know, I don't know if people more comfortable with death, but it's definitely
more open more. I feel like people grieve more freely. Yeah, and
I think, I mean, there's a lot more I guess you could say,
but I feel like, yeah, it's not as taboo, you know
what. That probably has a lot to do with it. Then I believe
you, because I forget who some famous white person went to Mexico for the
Day of the Dead and they came back and they were like, I can't
believe how comfortable like Mexicans are with death, Like I was scared and they
were just like whatever, like yeah, and not to say that it's not
like earth shattering to somebody, you know when it is. But I think
that because of our traditions and I don't know, just genuinely being more like
loud people sometimes in some ways more outspoken and emotional. Yeah, like there's
not like, you know, this shame to it, and it's yeah,
maybe maybe maybe, and this is just us specula. Yeah, I see
why we don't have so like that many dark nursing rhymes. Because when I
heard that episode of and That's Why We Drink, I was like, why
is there so many of these? There was a lot, yeah, and
some I knew already, but a lot I didn't. So the first one
I'm going to get into, and it's not really a nursery rhyme and it's
not really that dark. But I wanted to talk about it because I had
been debating making it a topic for my daily podcast. But then I was
like, no, this is too good. I will save it for this
topic specifically. So Santa Sana golaa. So I feel like most people know
this, but will say it how we at least how I say it to
my children. So sanna sanaaa. And there's variations of it, but this
is a universal all of Latin America thing. I do not think that there's
a single Latin American country that does not say it, even like you know,
the places that are geographically in Latin America, but like culturally are not
considered Latin America, even they have their version of it. Really, Hay,
those all those islands that I I don't even know their name of because
I forget them, all those places, they have their version of it.
So this is clearly something universal. And then it doesn't really translate to English.
It makes no sense if you say in English, but I will yeah,
so heal frog tail. If it's not better today, it'll be better
tomorrow. And so yeah, that's what it is. In English. It
just it doesn't have the same vibe to it. It's kind of it's lame.
It's lame in English. And also different countries have slight variations of it.
So apparently some people, and there's a big debate about it. Some
people think it's guito. And when I was talking to our father, that
makes okay, Well he say, and said, oh, that's how they
say it. Really, Oh okay, he was like, yeah, Santa
sana. But mm hm, although the tell guess doesn't technically make sense either,
but right in the end it's none of it makes sense. But yeah,
so it's the d R Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico. Other like,
if there's a few more that will say culito instead of colita and so yeah,
the difference with that is talent. But although although technically culito or culo
is a vulgar way of saying but in Spanish, so I think that's what
makes it funnier to like the rest of us, Like when we hear we're
like, no way, but yeah, And then I did read in Chile
some people said that they say it in this way. Oh and then another
thing, some people say you sana oi sanaa manyana, whereas when I told
my kidsa but in the end of it all means the same thing. It
doesn't get better today, or if it doesn't kill today, it will tomorrow.
But let me find what someone said. They say in Chile, hold
on oho, that's funny, I like, yeah, which it means the
comment right below them. Yeah, the common right below that's like I should
have expected this from Chilean's Oh so yeah, that's just another version of and
back in twenty twenty, this video went viral from this guy. I forgot
his to use your name, so sorry about that. But this Mexican American
guy, and you know, some people like yell in their videos. I
could never get behind that energy. They're like, oh my god, guys,
I had no idea about this, Like yeah, ye, I can't.
I can't like feign energy for things like if I'm excited, I'm excited.
If not, I can't, you know. And that's why I can
never sell something. I think that's why I couldn't sell credit cards. And
I worked that Macy's. You know, excit, do you want this card
card or not? You don't have to don't give me attitude. I'm just
tacking asking. I have to ask with your resting bitch face. Yeah,
yeah, I can see why you didn't sell any Yeah, and I can
like do my little customers customer service voice, and I can different than fake.
It is different, yet I can, but I don't like to.
I don't it just it feels too fake to me. But that's how this
guy's video starts, He's like, hey, guys, did you guys know
I'm gonna stop because you know, some people some people dig it, some
people really I mean obviously with yeah, yeah, it works, it works.
It works. So this guy, he goes on TikTok and it's like
a fifteen twenty second video, some very long, but this guy's basically saying
that Sana Sanaa is not Mexican. And I'm gonna pause on that and say,
I don't think it's solely Mexican, because, like I said, this
is something that we hear in all of Latin America, every single Latin American
country. So no, I never believed that it was only Mexican unpaused.
So he goes on to say in his video, this is not it didn't
come from Mexico. It goes back to the Irish Spanish. Oh sorry,
I'm just guessing. Oh, I do believe that it has to do with
Spain because they say it in Spain. Oh okay, because my line of
thinking is what do we all have. What do all Latin Americans have in
common is being colonized by the Spanish. So if we all have our own
version, I guess to me it would make sense that it came from Spain
exactly. And even you know those the islands in the Caribbean that also got
colonized by Spain. But don't you know, speak that much Spanish and they
speak other languages there or you know those they have it too. So that's
why I think it has to do with Spain. But this video, yeah,
millions of like en views because yeah, he said it didn't come from
from it's not Mexican. It dates back to the Irish and that there was
a scroll found and the scroll had basically the but in you know Irish that
that's what it said, and that somewhere across you know, somehow it got,
you know, to Mexico. And then there was so many comments.
I was like, oh, maybe during the let's the Mega War in American
War, when the Irish, you know, had the battalion Saint Patrick's battalion,
maybe that's when. But Santa Sana has been around before that that,
yes, and maybe that from the Mexicans. I wrote it down somewhere right
right, but I don't I don't know because I searched and I'm not I'm
not bad at Google searching. It's one of those things that you know,
we had to learn and you know, trusted sources and like yeah and all
things like that. Like me, you and I think it's sad to say
that we are semi professional google searchers, right, like if something exists,
we're gonna find it. Yeah. I could not find a single source whatever
article mentioned this story. It went back to this guy, And I'm like,
your ass made the ship up. I mean, okay, if there's
nowhere can be traced to, and maybe somebody I don't know like that has
access to like you know, the deep cut stuff like in archives somewhere,
but that begs the question where would he find that info? Exactly exactly?
So I think he liked yeah, And the only thing I could find is
that someone else said it in Spanish. First, Oh, so that person
life first? That was the first liar. Yes, I do believe that
because yeah, I could not find this anywhere. I mean, let us
know your thoughts, because like, really I could not find this information anywhere.
But also to me, because if the Irish brought it to Mexico,
then how so quickly how did it spread across that in America and all these
variations, Like I feel like before that reason alone, it had to come
from Spain. Yeah, that's what I believe. But then I also found
another story. This is from Venezuela. A Venezuelan TikToker slash YouTuber made a
two part video explaining Santa Santa in Venezuela specifically, and I honestly find this
more believable than this other irish thing. So he said, and this is
just a very like try me trying to remember what his video said because I
watched it like a week ago, but he basically says that it was a
spell, like a bad spell of Somebruca realized she could hurt people with one
of her own spells. So she was in this Venezuelan town like hurting people.
And then somehow kids were immune to her spells, and so people started
realizing this, and they started saying whenever someone was like cursed or whatever by
the witch, they started saying Santa Sana and Kulita, because like kids were
the ones who were like resisted, they could resist her spell. And then
this is how it spread and I would believe that over the other guy.
Actually, now that you say that, I have a vague memory of somewhere
reading and I don't know if it was from somewhere reputable or not. I
have like a vague memory of hearing that it came from that it used to
be like a like a magic like you know spell that and that's where it
came from. Oh so there's and so yeah, that's like one other story
of how it became a thing and a better sweat specifically. But again everyone
says it. But a thing people say now is that this is a spell.
It's this magic little spell too. And I'm honestly, I mean,
you're conjuring these words and to make your child feel better, and it works.
I mean, you've seen my children cry and then I'm just like a
little kid. They're done, bam, They're done crying in like seconds.
So I mean, yeah, to say that it is a spell now,
I don't think would be incorrect at all. Yeah, if you look it
up, you know, people will say that, yeah, this is like,
this is a spell. We're basically all brukas when we say this.
But I have another thought. When I was talking with our father about this,
but he he was saying that, He's like, oh yeah, I
mean like I can't even remember our lives, like not hearing Santa Sanna and
he was like, but you know what I think, because I told him
what I had read about the Irish and he was like, he made this
face that he makes when he's like no, that sounds like bullshit, and
you know the face. Yeah, so he's like, no, I don't
think that's true at all, Like it could be, but like sounds far
fetched. I think it's just it has to do with guranda, rismo and
Latin America, because yes, wherever you go in Latin America there is guando.
That's another thing, and like it's not the same in Spain. But
they are also very much into witchcraft too, that's true. I remember learning
about that from un m J. Yes, yeah, and so you know,
if we think about that, then that's probably where it comes from,
because you know our dad he said, that makes sense that he remembers being
a small kid and that there was this like illness people would get where their
legs would get very swollen and red and it's like a bacterial infection. Basically,
I forgot the name English and Spanish. Let me look it up because
I did ask him to tell me is so that I would have it written
down so dcipella is what he called it in Spanish, and that translates to
aricipellus, which is a bacterial infection of the skin that affects you know,
the upper layer of the skin and the superficial lymphatic vessels. So it's a
type of cellulitis. It's like swelling, you know, of the cells or
whatever, of the skin cells. And so he says he remembers as a
child that you know, people would get this illness and then Guranderos would use
frogs, frogs to heal them. Really, they were just run frog like
frog a frog across their legs and it was like, I mean, it
got better. He doesn't know how, he doesn't understand how, but it
got better. And I mean, if you look across like witchcraft in all
cultures, I think frogs are a big deal, you know, coming ingredient.
But yeah, he said he saw them rubbing. So if they're using
this to cure, then I think that's this is where it comes from.
That makes sense. So yeah, not a dark not a dark nursery at
all. But that's very interesting. Yeah, I just better to get down
to the get to the bottom of Santa Sana. So yeah, that's one
story that I have. And so when I was trying to search other dark
nursery rhymes, I couldn't find a lot. I mean, we have our
own nursery rhymes, right, and you remember the pin pone one? Yeah,
oh that's say. I wonder if also it's that we don't remember a
lot of them. Okay, I only remember if basically, let's see pin
pon, it's pinbone. The same one about pin pone is that it okay
yeah, pin yes, okay, nothing dark about it. I don't think
it's just cute. Pipons a doll. He cleansed his face right with water
and soap, and then basically you're just combing his hair. So yeah,
that's when I remembered, when I'm like, no, this isn't dark,
this is just cute. But then I remembered about the classic which we've talked
about in another episode, but Coco and in English sleep now my child sleep.
Because if you don't el Coco or Cucko, some people say Cuckoo will
come and eat you, like the Boogeyman. And so I think this is
as dark as it gets for dark nursereen rhymes in Latin America is that from
based on like Cuckoo, Yeah, cuckoo, Cuco, Coco. They're all
the same thing basically, and we have like, oh my god, I
think it's like episode three about the Boogeyman, and so there was a man
who was, you know, killing children in Spain and that could have been
how it's spread. But also there have been just men killing children and so
a lot of time. Yeah, yeah, and so kind of each Without
Spain, I think each country would have had their own version of this anyway.
Yeah, but I mean to me, it's still not as dark as
like fucking ring around the roses something ashes like that's depressing. Yeah, this
is just threatening a child to get to sleep, Like no, Biggie,
my dad or our dad oop I did the Latino kid my dad my dancing
or our dad. He seems to to my kids all the time. And
I sing it to them. They just laugh and I mean they're not even
scared. I was looking to your old sorry, to the older episodes to
try to find which episode that was, and I don't know. Oh right,
a little bit of than Tackle. That's that's what it's titled. Okay,
it is in the first twenty for sure. Yeah. From January twenty
to twenty twenty one. Dang, yes, it's in the first like I
want to say, even ten episodes. But yeah, this man, the
legend is that he would put them in bags, the kids in bags.
But there's like stories like these, and you know, all of time and
every culture. We're just the ones who made a creepy song out of it,
a creepy go to sleep song out of it. So again we I
mean, we know the origin of how you know it's not I still don't
think it's as bad as like some of these other ones, although I guess
it's almost the same as like, you know how they say the Muffin Man
was a serial killer the Muffin Man song, Muffin Man, Yeah, yeah,
you know that. Do you know that muffin Man? Only know it
from that? That Muffin Man? Yeah, that's all I know it from.
Okay, well the song they say he was a serial killer that lived
on Drury Lane. So I think I would say, I guess if you
had to say it, Goco is dark, it would be as dark as
that, Like it's just based on a serial killer, but still not that
bad. I did find a couple other ones that were bad. Oh,
I never heard this version of Coco, so sorry other Coco. He said,
Yeah, I like that. That's almost the same but a little different.
Yeah, okay, I never heard this one, but I did find
this one called don't I wish we were doing video? Just from my reaction
you saying that, I know, I know, I think this is recording
video, but I don't want to do that. Looks like no, no,
no, yeah, yeah, no no no no no no no no
no. I agree. Yeah, So don't Fico like dio la puso remover
and in English, Don Federico killed his women. He chopped her up,
and what does I mean, like, oh, like he cut pieces and
then removed those. Oh I thought it was like like mixing. Oh,
like that's what I thought, but it's probably wrong. Yeah, so yeah
that. But then I tried searching and I don't know the origin of it.
I just know that it exists, and I don't know where it was
said, don't name Don Federico. Well, I you' from Don Federico,
but like why you know, we don't know. I couldn't find the origin
of it at all. And then this is another like kids nursery rhyme.
I never heard, but it's a little like off putting. It's not like
very dark. But I'm like, oh, why we're children singing this so
capitambarco gless i rubia es phenomenal. That's just gross. Why why are this?
And in English, I'm the captain of an English boat and reports I
have a woman the red headed, no, the blonde, Oh, the
blonde is phenomenal, and the dark one's not that bad like the tanned one.
I don't know. That's just like, what the fuck? That's gross?
And I don't know where they say that because I never heard it.
I mean I just heard like the normal ones like Pinpon. Yeah, honestly,
probably only Pinon. It's like the only one I remember. Yeah yeah,
And that could be right that we're just not remembering them. That could
be another thing. I mean, if anyone else remembers any you know,
let me know and we'll do another little update to this. Okay, And
then this is another one that's not like very dark. But again I'm just
like, way to reinforce stereotypical gender roles. So luna a sila baba,
I see, I see, I see, And then you make you know
a little like assi or whatever. I don't know. So again, the
little girl wanted to play before lunch, but she couldn't play because she had
to go watch close And I'm like, why is she washing clothes? So
when else watched the clothes? No, she's only one. Other people are
doing other stuff apparently. Yeah, so not dark, but just like yeah,
and then okay, this one again, I don't know where they say
it, but servesa servesa kiro to mar servesa servesa kioto, mar sivesa perque
ya vastante la vida, perce marcitos, machado legos berquava, sante sufro la
vida berceu marcitos, sea machallo lecos senor can tinto da macevesa senora. I
don't know where are they sing these either? Yeah, and in English that
was beer beer. I want to drink beer, beer beer. I want
to drink beer because I suffer a lot in life and my love has gone
far away and I suffer a lot in life. Bartender, give me more
beer, bartender, give me more beer. But I don't know where they're
seeing these, Like what do you mean? And I mean, that's that's
just promoting alcoholism. Okay, here's another one. I again, I don't
know where these are told, but here's this one. Mampeg Yeah, what
kind of shit is this? Wow? I got on the bed, I
threw my suitcase, I got a bottle. My mom hit me, I
hit her like interesting? Yes, oh okay, here's one that's kind of
like a don't Federico, don't Pepito? Sorry, oh yeah, we should
probably tell people. I used to dress like a boy in her tambo era.
Yes, so as a nickname, our dad would call her Pepito,
and it just stuck. She still, yes, I am yeah, I
still call me Pepito, and so yeah, anytime Carmen specifically, here's Pepito.
She laughs. Yeah, so that's why she laughed right now, onto
this nursery rhyme, don't Pepito, you know it over the said and esconne
echo cardo. Oh my god, it must be to I was right stir.
Yeah, this terrible. Also, Oh yes, don't Pepito is on
Movian super Oh my god, disturbing really quick in English, don't Pepito killed
his woman for being so bad and she because she is to obey? Yeah,
oh my god. In a corral or he hit her in a corral.
Then he put her in a soup. I thing, you make supin
pot? Pot? Thank you? And he put her in a pot and
he stirred, don't Pepito did well? His next girlfriend will be very good?
Mmmm? Wow? Yeah, I'm disturbing. Okay, And those are,
I want to say, the only ones I could find. And again,
I have no idea where those are told because I never heard any of
them other than you know and Coco. But yeah, uh, only the
only things I really remember. Or also a bunch of people would tell these
jokes about Pepe. Do you remember that? M I feel like vainly,
but I feel those were supposed to be rude and like vulgar. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure it was Pepe or was it whole? I can't remember.
I don't remember, but but yeah, I mean, that's that's all I
could find. If I mean, if anyone else, doose have any that
I missed? Let me know. But yeah, we just don't seem to
have as many disturbing ones like ring around the Rosie and Dalla something in a
tub. And I wonder if we miss some for growing up here, not
in actual like Mexico or some other like maybe that has something to do with
it. Oh, maybe that could be it. Another was I gonna say,
And I'm sick. So that's I'm forgetting a lot, I think too,
because there was something I was gonna mention right now. Oh one other
one that I would add, not because it's dark, but it's like a
little racist, is it? Or creekree that has a song about I want
to say it's Sipi Ying, but I'm not like one hundred percent sure.
I think it's one of the other. Yeah, you know, one of
the two. You know, and if you don't know who they are,
they are beloved children's music composers, artists and Sibiyan he had his face like
a clown always, and I love both of them, but you know,
they are from their era and they have their faults. And so that's one
of the songs that's a little not as good as the other ones because you
know this, it's called the Chinese Girl in the Forest, And I want
to say that there's like supposed like Chinese words in the song, but it's
like really just him going like ling ling ling, Oh my god, something
like that, like I remember that, but I know it's a concervative racist
song like for Sure and has a couple two. We did a whole episode
about it was like half an hour long. The historians are known, if
anyone wants to look into that. But yeah, I mean those are the
only other ones that I would add into, like darkish nursery rhymes, but
yeah, I mean I could. I just don't know of that many as
there are for in English. So fun, fun none the list, and
a little different than our normal paranormal topic. So yeah, it's fun.
Though, before we go, Carmen, do you have any spooky recommendations?
I don't. Okay, yeah, neither do I. Upon Carmen's recommendation,
I started reading or listening to Crying in h Mart, very sad. I
cried, it's like a memoir her mom passes away, and yeah, it's
but it's very good. I loved it. And if we're talking about memoirs,
then I do have another recommendation. Okay, I told you about it,
but I don't know if you want to read it because she does talk
about her child abuse a lot, but it's no in my bone. Sorry,
it's gonna FEI The other one I talked about longer ago, I did
recolle. That one it's called let me just make sure it's not called what
did I just say? It was called I said the wrong said? You
said Hella said the wrong name. That's not what it's called. Oh my
god, it's called What My Bones Know? Wow, my bones know?
Yeah. The only thing I had common was bones. So What My Bones
Know is by Stephanie Fu and it's a memoir of healing I guess, healing
from childhood trauma child abuse really like the worst parents, you think, horrible,
damn and overcoming complex PTSD, which is not as talked about as regular
PTSD. But it's like it's not her overcoming it like saying, oh if
I did it, you could do it. It's like very much like her
struggle and her journey and you know, like an honest look at it.
Yeah, yeah, okay, and they took it. And but at the
same time she weaves in like his historical trauma, like she's Asian American and
I want to say her parents are from Malaysia because she talks about like the
historical trauma there and how that affects, you know, parents and their ability
to parent, while at the same time not not making excuses for them and
then also about like Asian stereotypes and like things like that, and so like
she weaves in a lot of like topics about racism and immigration and you know,
into her own stories. So yeah, I mean it was it was
amazing, pretty good. Wow, Okay, And she narrates it also,
So I love when the authors narrate their own and usually it's the memoirs when
they narrate them. So my favorite I had to I had to listen,
Yeah, because that's like a I don't know, I guess I think people
are realizing now what a how the connects into like generational trauma is to affect
people now. But like, if you look in the US, one of
the groups that suffers or experiences the most is diagnosed the most with depression and
things like that is Latin American people in the US. But and yeah,
I mean because if you look at I don't know, even in Mexico,
which hasn't had like a period of war per se like other countries in recent
history, but you know, you go back to our great great grandfathers,
grandmothers who experienced the revolution, then like the Costello War and then like just
like three four wars in a row back to back. Yeah, you know,
violence is still going on then, not to mention other countries like you
know, etc. Which we talk a lot about, but the Civil War
and obviously these things that are still happening. But yeah, these things affect
like everyone down the line because then these issues are not like resolved and like
you know, someone who never learned to deal with something the things they saw,
maybe they'll you know, pass down anger issues or yeah, lash out
at their children who then experience this, who then will pass it on.
So yeah, like a cycle, yes, thank you, a cycle.
So yeah, I'm excited to read this book. Then that you just said,
what was it called again? What my bones know? Thank you?
Thank you? What my bones know? Are you double checking? I am
double checking? Okay, yes, well my bones know okay, yeah,
I'm gonna look it up and then everyone else. Our current book club book
is Vampires of It Northey, I'm almost done. I'm almost done with it.
I'm on chapter twenty twenty three. Notes. Oh oh, no worries
if I finish them soon, and I'll just start the notes. You know,
I don't know where I'm is at in the book, but I'll probably
send out the discussion questions in a couple of weeks, I think, yeah,
so we're ready, and yeah, don't forget. You can still it's
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so I'm hoping she's like, yeah, share this because it was wild.
So yeah, you can DM Spooky Tales on any of the socials,
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just did an episode on Paranormal News and it was fun. My new favorite
phrase is this just in in my best news anchor voice. So yeah,
that's the updates on the Spooky Tales and Carmen, thanks for being here today
and she didn't, so, oh yeah, so i'mone on Patroon asks like
did I miss something? What does Carmen mean when she has contractual obligations?
And I was like, oh no, it's just a joke because she's my
twin and I'm forcing her to be here and it's against her will. And
they were like, oh, okay, I thought I missed something. So
yeah, Carman is joking when she says that sort of, but it does
have I am forced to be here. Oh my god. All right,
So anyway, stay a spooky and I mean that's it, say a spooky
and I don't know. Survive allergy slash cold? Is it cold season?
Everyone's sick around? Well, cold season never goes away, colds are always
around and the summer strap strap thrives strap. Yes, yeah, allergies.
Obviously, COVID is still around. The one thing that's not around is the
so we have that going for us. So yeah, I don't know,
stay safe out there, want your hands touch your faces like pinpon. Okay,
how does it go? And I don't remember, that's all I remember.
Okay, all right, all right, bye, oh my god.
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