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Hi everyone. This is Christina and
Carmen and it's just us today. There's

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also no video. We're a mess, yes, but this is a Spooky

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Tells the podcast for all things as
spooky. And yeah, that's like I

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was saying, there's no MG today. There's a hole in her house right

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now. This is on purpose,
various spooky things going on. Yeah,

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yeah, her ac is getting fixed, and yeah, Christina's dying. Yeah,

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I'm dying. I'm recovering from dying. Yeah. So we had a

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very fun episode plan but it didn't
go well. Though. That episode is

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going to happen and I'm very excited
for it when it does happen. But

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in the meantime, we just put
together this last minute episode from what we

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do. It's how we roll,
and you know what, it's still gonna

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be fun. Carman has a listener
story and after that, I have some

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so a listener a while back messaged
me on Instagram and said, can you

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guys do dark nursery nursery rhymes?
Because I think they probably had just listened

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to and that's why we drink dark
nursery rhymes. I was just gonna say

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yeah, and let me tell you
that it was a little hard. We

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don't have as that many like dark
nursery rhymes with backstories. So but you

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know, I did what I could. And so that's today's topic. Because

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it was very last minute, it
is going to be a shorter episode.

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But yeah, Kurvin, let's hear
our listener story. Okay, this is

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from Kevin from the southwest Side of
Chicago, and I just want to say

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south side, but I know it's
the south Side. It's southwest Side.

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I didn't leave the South Side for
this. Very mean girls, Oh my

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god. Okay, So Kevin says, I'm the oldest of four. I

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have two brothers and one sister.
I have a few stories. First story,

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Once in a while, I get
sleep paralysis. So I remember one

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night I had one in my room
that my little brother and I shared,

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and he told me that night that
I yelled so loud in my sleep.

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I honestly believe I was running from
something in my dream. M. It's

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always scary when you wake up from
I mean, I've never woke up screaming,

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but I have woke up like in
full sweat from whatever was going on,

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which is usually like running away from
something. Yeah, yeah, one

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time, probably one of the worst
nightmares I had. I woke up and

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my face was so and this is
my I need to get botox because I

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I woke up and my I was
what is it called when you I was

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like making angry growing yes, yes, I was furrowing my yes, my

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brows so much that my forehead like
it was red like I was in Yeah.

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Yeah. Wow. It's because in
my dream I was confronting a guy

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that did my friend wrong. So
you know, I gotta defend my friends.

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Oh, understandable. Okay, back
to Kevin in his story, So,

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Kevin went on to say, second
story, I lost my best friend

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who I've known since grade school to
COVID two years ago, if I remember

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correctly, So sorry for your lost
Kevin. The day he passed, I

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woke up to a Facebook message from
his mom at five am. I couldn't

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sleep all that night, so seeing
that message, I couldn't believe it.

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So I tried going back to sleep, but deep down I knew it was

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real. A few nights later,
I had a dream of him with all

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the boys together, hanging out like
good old times. We would always go

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for bicycle rides through downtown or watch
UFC fights. At Beatubs. He took

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me to my first Cubs game.
My girlfriend gifted me a Cubs jersey with

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his last name football number. That's
so sweet. Yeah, and I will

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always forever wear that jersey to the
games. But in my dream, I

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remember asking him, I thought you
were dead. Somehow in my dream,

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I turned my head to look at
something. I turned back to find my

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best friend. He wasn't there anymore. Oh my god. Yeah, I

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can't imagine how. I don't know
how that must feel, like seeing somebody

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and then for a second you forget
that you're dreaming and then they're gone.

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Yeah, And I mean, I
think we both believe that, you know,

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our loved ones do visit us in
our dreams. So yeah, but

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then to like wake up and remember, like, oh, they're not here

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anymore when you saw them so vividly
in your dream. Yeah, man,

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it's very horrible. I've dream of
our I was gonna say, he's our

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collective. I dreamt of him a
few times, but never in my dream

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has he like been there and then
disappeared. Like yeah, so like you

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just you had your whole dream.
He was a little dream and then you

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just wake up and but he didn't
disappear in that's even worse. No,

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that's what I mean. Like then
you're like, damn it, I can't

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even in my dreams. I can't
even have Yeah, wow, stay there

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long enough? Right, Oh my
god, that's so so sad. Mm

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hmm. So a few more nights
later, I got a text from his

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phone from previous conversations we had a
while ago. I swear to you,

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I wasn't the only person who received
the random text from his phone. I

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kid you not. I was scared
as fuck lol. I did end up

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texting his mom. She said,
maybe it's him saying goodbye. Oh my

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god. Oh this that's part of
sad. Till this day, I won't

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upgrade or delete the text so I
can see the conversations we had. No,

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I get that, I get that. I'm so sad that. Uh

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I think I upgraded my phone like
once, and so my buddy that I

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had in the Army who trigger war
or content warning like died by suicide.

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Like all our messages were gone.
And then Twitter did this thing where they

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deleted in active like profiles and so
like everything was gone. Yeah, it's

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sad. I completely understand that.
And yeah, I wouldn't do either,

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or I like screenshot everything like frantically. Yeah. Oh that's so trippy though

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that everyone got a message. So
then it goes on. Once in a

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while, I do text his phone
to let him know my life updates.

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I'm sure he's I'm gonna cry,
Kevin, Why, Oh I'm gonna cry?

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Oh okay, let me let me
try to get through this. So

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every once in a while I text. I text his phone once in a

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while to let him know my life
updates. I'm sure he's proud of me

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for getting accepted into the academy,
and I can send a screenshot of the

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random replies that scared me. Oh, he says, you can send a

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screenshot you have the reply, Kevin, Oh man, Yeah, I mean,

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if you want, I would.
I believe you. There's no we

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don't need to prove we believe.
We believe you a hundred Yeah. I'd

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be scared too, Yeah man,
okay. So third story is about my

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little brother, who I lost eight
years ago due to a drowning accident.

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Oh my god, I'm so sorry, so much loss. Till this day,

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I can't read the article. But
the day we buried my brother,

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I felt his presence around. When
we got back home, I kept looking

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around. I do remember my uncle
asking what's wrong, but I said nothing.

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That same night, right before going
to sleep, I heard a knock

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on the door. I didn't open
it, but my little sister did.

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My mom asked who it was,
and my sister said it was no one.

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I honestly believe it was my little
brother coming home. He would have

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been twenty five years old today.
Oh my god, I'm gonna cry.

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Kevin, Kevin just making us cry. Okay, let me get it together,

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let me compose myself. I am
a twenty seven year old man,

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ashamed and ambaried to say this,
but it took me many months to sleep

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in my own room because my brother
and I shared a room. I would

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always know I get it, Oh
my god, yeah, especially after hearing

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that knock on the door. I
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look, I get it. I
love you, I miss you, but

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don't come down, kid. Yeah
it is my our mom. I don't

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remember if she heard something or if
she was just like like staying it out

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to the you know, universe,
so that our great grandmothers didn't come haunt

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her. Because I think that somebody
else in the family was being haunted by

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her. So then I like,
if someone was gonna haunt any family member,

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it would have been me because she
and I'm just gonna do it.

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Yeah recipes, I say disrespectfully,
yes of course, but yeah, so

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remember our mom told us that she
was haunting one of her das, so

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one of our mom's dance and so
then our mom would be like, masts

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but if I masts like begging,
and she's like, I got no,

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I even miss you, but don't
show yourself to me, Like please,

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if you ever love me, please
don't for sure. So he said that

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I took a month to sleep in
their shared room and he would sleep in

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the salon next to his mom's room
to sleep better. And he definitely believes

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in ghosts. And then he just
says, thank you for an amazing podcast.

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It made my job go by fast, Kevin. We love those stories.

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He sent me a nice and then
I sent you because he sent something

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right after that. So just like
a little follow up, I hope I

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forwarded it to you. Oh yes, yes, I see it. PS

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adding some more info, my little
brother is buried a famous cemetery known as

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a Resurrection Cemetery. There's a famous
legend known as Resurrection and Mary, a

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woman who was killed and a hit
and run in a suburb called Willowbrook.

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She tends to appear on Archer Avenue
asking for rides, then asks to stop

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in front of the cemetery, and
then suddenly disappears. Scary. I love

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a woman asking for a ride and
then just disappearing. I love a woman

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asking for what she needs and leaving
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Yes, yes, but yeah,
I was like, oh, that's that

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as an extra creepy Yeah, oh
yeah, creepiness to all of it.

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But yes, thank you Kevin for
your stories. We loved all of them.

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Also, you know, thank you
for making us cry. And I

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don't say that sarcastically. M you
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quick outbreak here because we don't have two

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dark nursery rhymes, and let me
tell you they were not easy to find.

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I don't know, maybe we're just
not as like weird as the English

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and all those. I feel like
maybe the English are more morbid because death

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is sort of more I don't know. I don't want to say it's yeah,

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till more taboo, like I feel
like in Mexico. And I don't

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know if it's just Mexico or all
Latin Nominica, but like, I don't

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know, I don't know if people
more comfortable with death, but it's definitely

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more open more. I feel like
people grieve more freely. Yeah, and

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I think, I mean, there's
a lot more I guess you could say,

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but I feel like, yeah,
it's not as taboo, you know

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what. That probably has a lot
to do with it. Then I believe

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you, because I forget who some
famous white person went to Mexico for the

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Day of the Dead and they came
back and they were like, I can't

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believe how comfortable like Mexicans are with
death, Like I was scared and they

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were just like whatever, like yeah, and not to say that it's not

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like earth shattering to somebody, you
know when it is. But I think

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that because of our traditions and I
don't know, just genuinely being more like

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loud people sometimes in some ways more
outspoken and emotional. Yeah, like there's

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not like, you know, this
shame to it, and it's yeah,

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maybe maybe maybe, and this is
just us specula. Yeah, I see

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why we don't have so like that
many dark nursing rhymes. Because when I

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heard that episode of and That's Why
We Drink, I was like, why

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is there so many of these?
There was a lot, yeah, and

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some I knew already, but a
lot I didn't. So the first one

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I'm going to get into, and
it's not really a nursery rhyme and it's

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not really that dark. But I
wanted to talk about it because I had

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been debating making it a topic for
my daily podcast. But then I was

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like, no, this is too
good. I will save it for this

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topic specifically. So Santa Sana golaa. So I feel like most people know

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this, but will say it how
we at least how I say it to

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my children. So sanna sanaaa.
And there's variations of it, but this

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is a universal all of Latin America
thing. I do not think that there's

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a single Latin American country that does
not say it, even like you know,

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the places that are geographically in Latin
America, but like culturally are not

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considered Latin America, even they have
their version of it. Really, Hay,

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those all those islands that I I
don't even know their name of because

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I forget them, all those places, they have their version of it.

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So this is clearly something universal.
And then it doesn't really translate to English.

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It makes no sense if you say
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so heal frog tail. If it's
not better today, it'll be better

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tomorrow. And so yeah, that's
what it is. In English. It

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just it doesn't have the same vibe
to it. It's kind of it's lame.

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It's lame in English. And also
different countries have slight variations of it.

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So apparently some people, and there's
a big debate about it. Some

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people think it's guito. And when
I was talking to our father, that

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makes okay, Well he say,
and said, oh, that's how they

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say it. Really, Oh okay, he was like, yeah, Santa

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sana. But mm hm, although
the tell guess doesn't technically make sense either,

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but right in the end it's none
of it makes sense. But yeah,

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so it's the d R Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico. Other like,

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if there's a few more that will
say culito instead of colita and so yeah,

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the difference with that is talent.
But although although technically culito or culo

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is a vulgar way of saying but
in Spanish, so I think that's what

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makes it funnier to like the rest
of us, Like when we hear we're

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like, no way, but yeah, And then I did read in Chile

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some people said that they say it
in this way. Oh and then another

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thing, some people say you sana
oi sanaa manyana, whereas when I told

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my kidsa but in the end of
it all means the same thing. It

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doesn't get better today, or if
it doesn't kill today, it will tomorrow.

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But let me find what someone said. They say in Chile, hold

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on oho, that's funny, I
like, yeah, which it means the

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comment right below them. Yeah,
the common right below that's like I should

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have expected this from Chilean's Oh so
yeah, that's just another version of and

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back in twenty twenty, this video
went viral from this guy. I forgot

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his to use your name, so
sorry about that. But this Mexican American

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guy, and you know, some
people like yell in their videos. I

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could never get behind that energy.
They're like, oh my god, guys,

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I had no idea about this,
Like yeah, ye, I can't.

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I can't like feign energy for things
like if I'm excited, I'm excited.

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If not, I can't, you
know. And that's why I can

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never sell something. I think that's
why I couldn't sell credit cards. And

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I worked that Macy's. You know, excit, do you want this card

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card or not? You don't have
to don't give me attitude. I'm just

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tacking asking. I have to ask
with your resting bitch face. Yeah,

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yeah, I can see why you
didn't sell any Yeah, and I can

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like do my little customers customer service
voice, and I can different than fake.

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It is different, yet I can, but I don't like to.

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I don't it just it feels too
fake to me. But that's how this

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guy's video starts, He's like,
hey, guys, did you guys know

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I'm gonna stop because you know,
some people some people dig it, some

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people really I mean obviously with yeah, yeah, it works, it works.

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It works. So this guy,
he goes on TikTok and it's like

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a fifteen twenty second video, some
very long, but this guy's basically saying

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that Sana Sanaa is not Mexican.
And I'm gonna pause on that and say,

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I don't think it's solely Mexican,
because, like I said, this

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is something that we hear in all
of Latin America, every single Latin American

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country. So no, I never
believed that it was only Mexican unpaused.

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So he goes on to say in
his video, this is not it didn't

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come from Mexico. It goes back
to the Irish Spanish. Oh sorry,

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I'm just guessing. Oh, I
do believe that it has to do with

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Spain because they say it in Spain. Oh okay, because my line of

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thinking is what do we all have. What do all Latin Americans have in

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common is being colonized by the Spanish. So if we all have our own

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version, I guess to me it
would make sense that it came from Spain

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exactly. And even you know those
the islands in the Caribbean that also got

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colonized by Spain. But don't you
know, speak that much Spanish and they

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speak other languages there or you know
those they have it too. So that's

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why I think it has to do
with Spain. But this video, yeah,

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millions of like en views because yeah, he said it didn't come from

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from it's not Mexican. It dates
back to the Irish and that there was

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a scroll found and the scroll had
basically the but in you know Irish that

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that's what it said, and that
somewhere across you know, somehow it got,

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you know, to Mexico. And
then there was so many comments.

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I was like, oh, maybe
during the let's the Mega War in American

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War, when the Irish, you
know, had the battalion Saint Patrick's battalion,

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maybe that's when. But Santa Sana
has been around before that that,

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yes, and maybe that from the
Mexicans. I wrote it down somewhere right

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right, but I don't I don't
know because I searched and I'm not I'm

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not bad at Google searching. It's
one of those things that you know,

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we had to learn and you know, trusted sources and like yeah and all

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things like that. Like me,
you and I think it's sad to say

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that we are semi professional google searchers, right, like if something exists,

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we're gonna find it. Yeah.
I could not find a single source whatever

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article mentioned this story. It went
back to this guy, And I'm like,

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your ass made the ship up.
I mean, okay, if there's

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nowhere can be traced to, and
maybe somebody I don't know like that has

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access to like you know, the
deep cut stuff like in archives somewhere,

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but that begs the question where would
he find that info? Exactly exactly?

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So I think he liked yeah,
And the only thing I could find is

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that someone else said it in Spanish. First, Oh, so that person

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life first? That was the first
liar. Yes, I do believe that

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because yeah, I could not find
this anywhere. I mean, let us

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know your thoughts, because like,
really I could not find this information anywhere.

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But also to me, because if
the Irish brought it to Mexico,

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then how so quickly how did it
spread across that in America and all these

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variations, Like I feel like before
that reason alone, it had to come

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from Spain. Yeah, that's what
I believe. But then I also found

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another story. This is from Venezuela. A Venezuelan TikToker slash YouTuber made a

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two part video explaining Santa Santa in
Venezuela specifically, and I honestly find this

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more believable than this other irish thing. So he said, and this is

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just a very like try me trying
to remember what his video said because I

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watched it like a week ago,
but he basically says that it was a

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spell, like a bad spell of
Somebruca realized she could hurt people with one

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of her own spells. So she
was in this Venezuelan town like hurting people.

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And then somehow kids were immune to
her spells, and so people started

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realizing this, and they started saying
whenever someone was like cursed or whatever by

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the witch, they started saying Santa
Sana and Kulita, because like kids were

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the ones who were like resisted,
they could resist her spell. And then

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this is how it spread and I
would believe that over the other guy.

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Actually, now that you say that, I have a vague memory of somewhere

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reading and I don't know if it
was from somewhere reputable or not. I

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have like a vague memory of hearing
that it came from that it used to

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be like a like a magic like
you know spell that and that's where it

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came from. Oh so there's and
so yeah, that's like one other story

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of how it became a thing and
a better sweat specifically. But again everyone

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says it. But a thing people
say now is that this is a spell.

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It's this magic little spell too.
And I'm honestly, I mean,

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you're conjuring these words and to make
your child feel better, and it works.

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I mean, you've seen my children
cry and then I'm just like a

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little kid. They're done, bam, They're done crying in like seconds.

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So I mean, yeah, to
say that it is a spell now,

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I don't think would be incorrect at
all. Yeah, if you look it

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up, you know, people will
say that, yeah, this is like,

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this is a spell. We're basically
all brukas when we say this.

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But I have another thought. When
I was talking with our father about this,

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but he he was saying that,
He's like, oh yeah, I

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mean like I can't even remember our
lives, like not hearing Santa Sanna and

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he was like, but you know
what I think, because I told him

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what I had read about the Irish
and he was like, he made this

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face that he makes when he's like
no, that sounds like bullshit, and

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you know the face. Yeah,
so he's like, no, I don't

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think that's true at all, Like
it could be, but like sounds far

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fetched. I think it's just it
has to do with guranda, rismo and

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Latin America, because yes, wherever
you go in Latin America there is guando.

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That's another thing, and like it's
not the same in Spain. But

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they are also very much into witchcraft
too, that's true. I remember learning

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about that from un m J.
Yes, yeah, and so you know,

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if we think about that, then
that's probably where it comes from,

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because you know our dad he said, that makes sense that he remembers being

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a small kid and that there was
this like illness people would get where their

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legs would get very swollen and red
and it's like a bacterial infection. Basically,

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I forgot the name English and Spanish. Let me look it up because

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I did ask him to tell me
is so that I would have it written

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down so dcipella is what he called
it in Spanish, and that translates to

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aricipellus, which is a bacterial infection
of the skin that affects you know,

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the upper layer of the skin and
the superficial lymphatic vessels. So it's a

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type of cellulitis. It's like swelling, you know, of the cells or

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whatever, of the skin cells.
And so he says he remembers as a

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child that you know, people would
get this illness and then Guranderos would use

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frogs, frogs to heal them.
Really, they were just run frog like

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frog a frog across their legs and
it was like, I mean, it

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got better. He doesn't know how, he doesn't understand how, but it

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got better. And I mean,
if you look across like witchcraft in all

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cultures, I think frogs are a
big deal, you know, coming ingredient.

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But yeah, he said he saw
them rubbing. So if they're using

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this to cure, then I think
that's this is where it comes from.

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That makes sense. So yeah,
not a dark not a dark nursery at

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all. But that's very interesting.
Yeah, I just better to get down

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to the get to the bottom of
Santa Sana. So yeah, that's one

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story that I have. And so
when I was trying to search other dark

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nursery rhymes, I couldn't find a
lot. I mean, we have our

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own nursery rhymes, right, and
you remember the pin pone one? Yeah,

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oh that's say. I wonder if
also it's that we don't remember a

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lot of them. Okay, I
only remember if basically, let's see pin

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pon, it's pinbone. The same
one about pin pone is that it okay

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yeah, pin yes, okay,
nothing dark about it. I don't think

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it's just cute. Pipons a doll. He cleansed his face right with water

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and soap, and then basically you're
just combing his hair. So yeah,

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that's when I remembered, when I'm
like, no, this isn't dark,

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this is just cute. But then
I remembered about the classic which we've talked

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about in another episode, but Coco
and in English sleep now my child sleep.

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Because if you don't el Coco or
Cucko, some people say Cuckoo will

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come and eat you, like the
Boogeyman. And so I think this is

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as dark as it gets for dark
nursereen rhymes in Latin America is that from

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based on like Cuckoo, Yeah,
cuckoo, Cuco, Coco. They're all

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the same thing basically, and we
have like, oh my god, I

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think it's like episode three about the
Boogeyman, and so there was a man

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who was, you know, killing
children in Spain and that could have been

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how it's spread. But also there
have been just men killing children and so

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a lot of time. Yeah,
yeah, and so kind of each Without

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Spain, I think each country would
have had their own version of this anyway.

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Yeah, but I mean to me, it's still not as dark as

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like fucking ring around the roses something
ashes like that's depressing. Yeah, this

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is just threatening a child to get
to sleep, Like no, Biggie,

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my dad or our dad oop I
did the Latino kid my dad my dancing

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or our dad. He seems to
to my kids all the time. And

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I sing it to them. They
just laugh and I mean they're not even

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scared. I was looking to your
old sorry, to the older episodes to

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try to find which episode that was, and I don't know. Oh right,

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a little bit of than Tackle.
That's that's what it's titled. Okay,

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it is in the first twenty for
sure. Yeah. From January twenty

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to twenty twenty one. Dang,
yes, it's in the first like I

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want to say, even ten episodes. But yeah, this man, the

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legend is that he would put them
in bags, the kids in bags.

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But there's like stories like these,
and you know, all of time and

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every culture. We're just the ones
who made a creepy song out of it,

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a creepy go to sleep song out
of it. So again we I

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mean, we know the origin of
how you know it's not I still don't

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think it's as bad as like some
of these other ones, although I guess

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it's almost the same as like,
you know how they say the Muffin Man

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was a serial killer the Muffin Man
song, Muffin Man, Yeah, yeah,

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you know that. Do you know
that muffin Man? Only know it

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from that? That Muffin Man?
Yeah, that's all I know it from.

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Okay, well the song they say
he was a serial killer that lived

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on Drury Lane. So I think
I would say, I guess if you

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had to say it, Goco is
dark, it would be as dark as

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that, Like it's just based on
a serial killer, but still not that

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bad. I did find a couple
other ones that were bad. Oh,

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I never heard this version of Coco, so sorry other Coco. He said,

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Yeah, I like that. That's
almost the same but a little different.

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Yeah, okay, I never heard
this one, but I did find

407
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:26,640
this one called don't I wish we
were doing video? Just from my reaction

408
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:33,920
you saying that, I know,
I know, I think this is recording

409
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,039
video, but I don't want to
do that. Looks like no, no,

410
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,240
no, yeah, yeah, no
no no no no no no no

411
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:45,519
no. I agree. Yeah,
So don't Fico like dio la puso remover

412
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:52,119
and in English, Don Federico killed
his women. He chopped her up,

413
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:59,119
and what does I mean, like, oh, like he cut pieces and

414
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,799
then removed those. Oh I thought
it was like like mixing. Oh,

415
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:12,279
like that's what I thought, but
it's probably wrong. Yeah, so yeah

416
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,480
that. But then I tried searching
and I don't know the origin of it.

417
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:17,920
I just know that it exists,
and I don't know where it was

418
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,920
said, don't name Don Federico.
Well, I you' from Don Federico,

419
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,359
but like why you know, we
don't know. I couldn't find the origin

420
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:36,759
of it at all. And then
this is another like kids nursery rhyme.

421
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,079
I never heard, but it's a
little like off putting. It's not like

422
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,160
very dark. But I'm like,
oh, why we're children singing this so

423
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:54,680
capitambarco gless i rubia es phenomenal.
That's just gross. Why why are this?

424
00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:00,920
And in English, I'm the captain
of an English boat and reports I

425
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,680
have a woman the red headed,
no, the blonde, Oh, the

426
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:13,480
blonde is phenomenal, and the dark
one's not that bad like the tanned one.

427
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:19,440
I don't know. That's just like, what the fuck? That's gross?

428
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:23,680
And I don't know where they say
that because I never heard it.

429
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:30,000
I mean I just heard like the
normal ones like Pinpon. Yeah, honestly,

430
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,119
probably only Pinon. It's like the
only one I remember. Yeah yeah,

431
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,559
And that could be right that we're
just not remembering them. That could

432
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:43,920
be another thing. I mean,
if anyone else remembers any you know,

433
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,559
let me know and we'll do another
little update to this. Okay, And

434
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,759
then this is another one that's not
like very dark. But again I'm just

435
00:33:51,799 --> 00:34:04,279
like, way to reinforce stereotypical gender
roles. So luna a sila baba,

436
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,839
I see, I see, I
see, And then you make you know

437
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,360
a little like assi or whatever.
I don't know. So again, the

438
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,559
little girl wanted to play before lunch, but she couldn't play because she had

439
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,800
to go watch close And I'm like, why is she washing clothes? So

440
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,320
when else watched the clothes? No, she's only one. Other people are

441
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:29,199
doing other stuff apparently. Yeah,
so not dark, but just like yeah,

442
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,480
and then okay, this one again, I don't know where they say

443
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:40,760
it, but servesa servesa kiro to
mar servesa servesa kioto, mar sivesa perque

444
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:49,159
ya vastante la vida, perce marcitos, machado legos berquava, sante sufro la

445
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:59,639
vida berceu marcitos, sea machallo lecos
senor can tinto da macevesa senora. I

446
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,000
don't know where are they sing these
either? Yeah, and in English that

447
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:06,880
was beer beer. I want to
drink beer, beer beer. I want

448
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,000
to drink beer because I suffer a
lot in life and my love has gone

449
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:15,599
far away and I suffer a lot
in life. Bartender, give me more

450
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:20,800
beer, bartender, give me more
beer. But I don't know where they're

451
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,559
seeing these, Like what do you
mean? And I mean, that's that's

452
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:31,239
just promoting alcoholism. Okay, here's
another one. I again, I don't

453
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:45,360
know where these are told, but
here's this one. Mampeg Yeah, what

454
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,679
kind of shit is this? Wow? I got on the bed, I

455
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,880
threw my suitcase, I got a
bottle. My mom hit me, I

456
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:06,559
hit her like interesting? Yes,
oh okay, here's one that's kind of

457
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:14,559
like a don't Federico, don't Pepito? Sorry, oh yeah, we should

458
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:21,039
probably tell people. I used to
dress like a boy in her tambo era.

459
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:25,039
Yes, so as a nickname,
our dad would call her Pepito,

460
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:30,800
and it just stuck. She still, yes, I am yeah, I

461
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,440
still call me Pepito, and so
yeah, anytime Carmen specifically, here's Pepito.

462
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,760
She laughs. Yeah, so that's
why she laughed right now, onto

463
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:51,159
this nursery rhyme, don't Pepito,
you know it over the said and esconne

464
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,960
echo cardo. Oh my god,
it must be to I was right stir.

465
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Yeah, this terrible. Also,
Oh yes, don't Pepito is on

466
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:12,639
Movian super Oh my god, disturbing
really quick in English, don't Pepito killed

467
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,599
his woman for being so bad and
she because she is to obey? Yeah,

468
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,679
oh my god. In a corral
or he hit her in a corral.

469
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:28,440
Then he put her in a soup. I thing, you make supin

470
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,880
pot? Pot? Thank you?
And he put her in a pot and

471
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,599
he stirred, don't Pepito did well? His next girlfriend will be very good?

472
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Mmmm? Wow? Yeah, I'm
disturbing. Okay, And those are,

473
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,360
I want to say, the only
ones I could find. And again,

474
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,480
I have no idea where those are
told because I never heard any of

475
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:58,760
them other than you know and Coco. But yeah, uh, only the

476
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,760
only things I really remember. Or
also a bunch of people would tell these

477
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,360
jokes about Pepe. Do you remember
that? M I feel like vainly,

478
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:12,039
but I feel those were supposed to
be rude and like vulgar. Yeah,

479
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,039
I'm pretty sure it was Pepe or
was it whole? I can't remember.

480
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:20,840
I don't remember, but but yeah, I mean, that's that's all I

481
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,039
could find. If I mean,
if anyone else, doose have any that

482
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,880
I missed? Let me know.
But yeah, we just don't seem to

483
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:32,000
have as many disturbing ones like ring
around the Rosie and Dalla something in a

484
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:36,360
tub. And I wonder if we
miss some for growing up here, not

485
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,199
in actual like Mexico or some other
like maybe that has something to do with

486
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:45,719
it. Oh, maybe that could
be it. Another was I gonna say,

487
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,159
And I'm sick. So that's I'm
forgetting a lot, I think too,

488
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:51,360
because there was something I was gonna
mention right now. Oh one other

489
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,280
one that I would add, not
because it's dark, but it's like a

490
00:38:53,320 --> 00:39:00,639
little racist, is it? Or
creekree that has a song about I want

491
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,039
to say it's Sipi Ying, but
I'm not like one hundred percent sure.

492
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,639
I think it's one of the other. Yeah, you know, one of

493
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,239
the two. You know, and
if you don't know who they are,

494
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,360
they are beloved children's music composers,
artists and Sibiyan he had his face like

495
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,559
a clown always, and I love
both of them, but you know,

496
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,119
they are from their era and they
have their faults. And so that's one

497
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:30,159
of the songs that's a little not
as good as the other ones because you

498
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,519
know this, it's called the Chinese
Girl in the Forest, And I want

499
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:39,239
to say that there's like supposed like
Chinese words in the song, but it's

500
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,320
like really just him going like ling
ling ling, Oh my god, something

501
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,599
like that, like I remember that, but I know it's a concervative racist

502
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:51,840
song like for Sure and has a
couple two. We did a whole episode

503
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
about it was like half an hour
long. The historians are known, if

504
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:58,960
anyone wants to look into that.
But yeah, I mean those are the

505
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,840
only other ones that I would add
into, like darkish nursery rhymes, but

506
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:06,239
yeah, I mean I could.
I just don't know of that many as

507
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400
there are for in English. So
fun, fun none the list, and

508
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,679
a little different than our normal paranormal
topic. So yeah, it's fun.

509
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,119
Though, before we go, Carmen, do you have any spooky recommendations?

510
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,519
I don't. Okay, yeah,
neither do I. Upon Carmen's recommendation,

511
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:30,119
I started reading or listening to Crying
in h Mart, very sad. I

512
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:37,679
cried, it's like a memoir her
mom passes away, and yeah, it's

513
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,039
but it's very good. I loved
it. And if we're talking about memoirs,

514
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,400
then I do have another recommendation.
Okay, I told you about it,

515
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,440
but I don't know if you want
to read it because she does talk

516
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,800
about her child abuse a lot,
but it's no in my bone. Sorry,

517
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,840
it's gonna FEI The other one I
talked about longer ago, I did

518
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,239
recolle. That one it's called let
me just make sure it's not called what

519
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,639
did I just say? It was
called I said the wrong said? You

520
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,519
said Hella said the wrong name.
That's not what it's called. Oh my

521
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:15,239
god, it's called What My Bones
Know? Wow, my bones know?

522
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,320
Yeah. The only thing I had
common was bones. So What My Bones

523
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:25,840
Know is by Stephanie Fu and it's
a memoir of healing I guess, healing

524
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,400
from childhood trauma child abuse really like
the worst parents, you think, horrible,

525
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:40,079
damn and overcoming complex PTSD, which
is not as talked about as regular

526
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,639
PTSD. But it's like it's not
her overcoming it like saying, oh if

527
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:50,320
I did it, you could do
it. It's like very much like her

528
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,039
struggle and her journey and you know, like an honest look at it.

529
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Yeah, yeah, okay, and
they took it. And but at the

530
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:07,559
same time she weaves in like his
historical trauma, like she's Asian American and

531
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:14,000
I want to say her parents are
from Malaysia because she talks about like the

532
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,920
historical trauma there and how that affects, you know, parents and their ability

533
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,960
to parent, while at the same
time not not making excuses for them and

534
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:30,920
then also about like Asian stereotypes and
like things like that, and so like

535
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,360
she weaves in a lot of like
topics about racism and immigration and you know,

536
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,159
into her own stories. So yeah, I mean it was it was

537
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:44,639
amazing, pretty good. Wow,
Okay, And she narrates it also,

538
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,119
So I love when the authors narrate
their own and usually it's the memoirs when

539
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,800
they narrate them. So my favorite
I had to I had to listen,

540
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:57,159
Yeah, because that's like a I
don't know, I guess I think people

541
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:02,400
are realizing now what a how the
connects into like generational trauma is to affect

542
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,760
people now. But like, if
you look in the US, one of

543
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:12,199
the groups that suffers or experiences the
most is diagnosed the most with depression and

544
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,800
things like that is Latin American people
in the US. But and yeah,

545
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,199
I mean because if you look at
I don't know, even in Mexico,

546
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,000
which hasn't had like a period of
war per se like other countries in recent

547
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:29,840
history, but you know, you
go back to our great great grandfathers,

548
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:37,360
grandmothers who experienced the revolution, then
like the Costello War and then like just

549
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:42,599
like three four wars in a row
back to back. Yeah, you know,

550
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,519
violence is still going on then,
not to mention other countries like you

551
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,000
know, etc. Which we talk
a lot about, but the Civil War

552
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,079
and obviously these things that are still
happening. But yeah, these things affect

553
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,400
like everyone down the line because then
these issues are not like resolved and like

554
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,920
you know, someone who never learned
to deal with something the things they saw,

555
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,280
maybe they'll you know, pass down
anger issues or yeah, lash out

556
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,800
at their children who then experience this, who then will pass it on.

557
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:12,199
So yeah, like a cycle,
yes, thank you, a cycle.

558
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400
So yeah, I'm excited to read
this book. Then that you just said,

559
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,039
what was it called again? What
my bones know? Thank you?

560
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,280
Thank you? What my bones know? Are you double checking? I am

561
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,159
double checking? Okay, yes,
well my bones know okay, yeah,

562
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:30,639
I'm gonna look it up and then
everyone else. Our current book club book

563
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,599
is Vampires of It Northey, I'm
almost done. I'm almost done with it.

564
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:39,320
I'm on chapter twenty twenty three.
Notes. Oh oh, no worries

565
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,639
if I finish them soon, and
I'll just start the notes. You know,

566
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,199
I don't know where I'm is at
in the book, but I'll probably

567
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:50,440
send out the discussion questions in a
couple of weeks, I think, yeah,

568
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:52,519
so we're ready, and yeah,
don't forget. You can still it's

569
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:59,000
your own stories to us via email
as Pukito gmail dot com. You can

570
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,519
DM us on any of our socials. I just got a really cool one

571
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:05,159
that I'm hoping we can share because
I was in awe. I was like

572
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,039
shocked when I read it, and
I message both of you immediately, Carmen,

573
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,320
so I'm hoping she's like, yeah, share this because it was wild.

574
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,599
So yeah, you can DM Spooky
Tales on any of the socials,

575
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,199
submit it on Discord. We also
have other things on Discord, like book

576
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,760
club updates, random things, So
yeah, Patreon or not. Patreon book

577
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,679
club updates are also free on Patreon
if you just want to become a free

578
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,360
member and keep up today with the
book club on there. I have a

579
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,639
couple can changed to send out to
our latest Patreon members. Carmen and I

580
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,559
just did an episode on Paranormal News
and it was fun. My new favorite

581
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:49,119
phrase is this just in in my
best news anchor voice. So yeah,

582
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,719
that's the updates on the Spooky Tales
and Carmen, thanks for being here today

583
00:45:54,119 --> 00:46:02,719
and she didn't, so, oh
yeah, so i'mone on Patroon asks like

584
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,800
did I miss something? What does
Carmen mean when she has contractual obligations?

585
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,480
And I was like, oh no, it's just a joke because she's my

586
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:14,360
twin and I'm forcing her to be
here and it's against her will. And

587
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,079
they were like, oh, okay, I thought I missed something. So

588
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,320
yeah, Carman is joking when she
says that sort of, but it does

589
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:30,440
have I am forced to be here. Oh my god. All right,

590
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:36,599
So anyway, stay a spooky and
I mean that's it, say a spooky

591
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,880
and I don't know. Survive allergy
slash cold? Is it cold season?

592
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Everyone's sick around? Well, cold
season never goes away, colds are always

593
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:55,360
around and the summer strap strap thrives
strap. Yes, yeah, allergies.

594
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Obviously, COVID is still around.
The one thing that's not around is the

595
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,639
so we have that going for us. So yeah, I don't know,

596
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,880
stay safe out there, want your
hands touch your faces like pinpon. Okay,

597
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,679
how does it go? And I
don't remember, that's all I remember.

598
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,159
Okay, all right, all right, bye, oh my god.

599
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:29,199
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600
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dot com slash as spooky Tails.
There are over at least fifteen bonus episodes

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right now, and we do at
least one a month, sometimes two,

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depending on how we are feeling.
If you want to support the podcast and

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don't or can't or don't want to, that's fine. Join the patreon.

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Then consider getting some merch. We
have an adorable beanie that I love.

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I absolutely adore it. It's so
comfy, it's warm, it has a

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spooky in Old English letters. There's
also a baseball hat in the same way

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as spooky and Old English letters,
and that's what I wear in the summers.

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They're both awesome hats, and there's
other things in there, like the

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no Mama's shirts, which is a
very popular shirt. If you like history,

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check out my other podcast, Estodia
is Unknown, hosted with the unofficial

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official guest co host of a Spooky
Tails, Carmen. And if you like

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novelas, checkout Novelaskofizito, which Carmen
and I also host together. And yeah,

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we love every single us in every
single spooky Thank you so much,

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stay as Spooky
