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This it's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast
with Corey Winfield. Well, fat people,

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we really hate it. I'm speaking
for all fat people. We hate

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being hot. Show me one fat
person that likes being hot. I'm have

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some words of them like why are
you playing? You know, like being

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hot? Bro and coal holes,
Marnie Winfield the little things that I appreciate

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now in life. And this gas
station is the gas station of all gas

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stations. And what makes it so
special It's got like a coffee bar in

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there, kind of It is the
thirteenth of July twenty twenty three. My

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name's Corey Winfield and Marnie's not with
us today. But this is the two

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seventeen Recovery Podcast. Special guests are
in the studio. I have Dulse.

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I have the very fabulous Justin Burke. Justin, how are you doing today?

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Certain now you can talk fabulous?
Here we go. So I had

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to turn the microphone and I have
control issues in Mitchell, how how are

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you today? Hiatus of not being
in the North studio, I'm back.

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You're feeling great? All right?
Well, we're glad that you're you're with

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us today. I'm glad to be
here and we'll check in with Adam's not

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with us today, No no,
and a vacation day he took. So

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congratulations you guys, you're here for
the great podcast today. We got such

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big news. What's that? I
don't play dom. You guys want me

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to announce it? I feel like
it's you should. Okay, Well,

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there's going to be a cage match
between you guys, and we're gonna have

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it in a location to where it's
one hundred and twenty degrees. Oh okay,

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that's just not fair. Why all
fat people like it hot? No?

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No, the we should we should
like make a club fat guy wrestling

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that's called sumo. No no,
that's wrestling for charity, which would be

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to seventeen would be the charity.
Yeah, so come on out watch us,

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ladies and guys, ladies, it's
just me be a hot dog eating

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contests in between. Chestnut guy chest
wasn't his name Chestnut? I have no

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idea the hot dog eating champion.
Oh there was like the guy from Japan

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reached out. The Japanese guy,
his name is Suzuki. He tried to

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it was something like that, Honda. No, I don't know, stop

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it. You're being you're not even
being funny. I don't know why I

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hit that, but no, I'm
telling you his name is something like that.

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Justine's looking it up. Choey Chestnut. Yeah, I told you Chestnut.

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Well that's not guess laughed. That's
not the Yamaha guy though, fabulous.

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No, but no, the other
dude, because he took the crown

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from him. Yeah sixty two.
Jesus, I have some ex girl friends.

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It all up in it. Yeah, I think this thing you brag

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about X your judge of women,
might be suspect. No, but the

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other the Japeez guy. And I'm
trying not to be a racistem using like

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air quotes. Here is Japeez like
Japanese trappies. You know, I'm just

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thinking a hole and just kind of
war. I don't know let's been doing

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it. I was joking anyway about
the cage Master was just kidding. So

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this whole four and a half minutes
is pointless. So there you go.

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Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. I'm having fun. So it's all

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about you get three guys at the
room. We're in recovery man, and

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you know what, we're laughing we're
having a good time. I was busting

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Mitch's balls your day. I came
in and I was like, damn you

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and Justin still be he. I
was like what And I noticed that he

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had a flyer over your flyer and
the flyer head over your fire was like

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a flyer that's like all over the
place anyway. So I'm like, why

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would you have this flyer over your
flyer? And I'm like, oh,

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they're still beef in. I think
it's a healthy beef. And yeah,

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I told you it's if we're not
beef about one thing that it'll wear off

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and then we'll just pick up.
But something else that's fun. Yeah,

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it's all about having fun around the
office. Okay, because it's the newly

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appointed HR director, is that me
to make sure that caught up on everything?

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Everything's going good. I'm telling you, I feel like an HR director.

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What no way I do crickets do? I feel like that's not a

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what no way? You know?
I feel like the HR director recently,

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you know, and there's been some
involvement with some people and stuff. I

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had to do stuff. Oh yeah, and then I made Marnie do stuff

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because I didn't want to do stuff. Then I'm like, I'm not telling

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them, you know, and both
of you guys are involved, and we're

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not talking about anything. It wasn't
too illegal. Nobody's going to jail or

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nothing. I got caught. Nobody
said they did it, you know the

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important things in life. I did
not do it. You never watched those

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shows though, that they have the
guy and they don't have shit on them,

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and they're like, hey, we
know you did this and did that.

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And then they're like, all right, well you caught me. Yeah.

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I put the poison in her drink
and you know, she drank it

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all and then she didn't die,
so I put more in and then I

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sort of like stabbing her to death, and you know you caught me.

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You're like, wait, what,
Like they didn't have anything on that guy?

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You just sung like a mocking bird? Is that what they say?

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Yeah? But like I always heard
that if they had stuff on you,

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they're not coming into you asking what
the story was. Hey, so tell

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us exactly what happened again? Oh
oh yeah about that? Yeah, Well

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we'll call my lawyer because I'm gonna
need one exactly. But you're gonna wait

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in here for ten days. That's
better than twenty five years, thank you.

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Yeah, I'm not trying to tell
people how to commit crimes or anything.

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I'm just saying I know people from
experience that I've seen on TV that

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have got caught up in this and
they are not guilty, and now they're

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in prison. And once you get
in there, it's not so easy to

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get f out. Nope, and
the stuff that they will try to trick

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you to say sometimes and you just
think you're being so helpful. No,

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so I would just always ask for
a lawyer because you never know. Yeah,

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but I didn't do it. I
wasn't even hope. Just I'm telling

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you, and if they don't have
enough to hold you, then you will

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go home. And the little holding
period way better than being in there for

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a long time for some stuff you
didn't do, right, Because it's kind

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of like selling the cars. When
I look at it, you know,

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you just want to get the car
off the lot. Probably, I know

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Mitch is looking at me like that. It makes no used to sell cars.

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You just want to close. It's
true, squeaky clean. Yeah,

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I'm most until but yeah that one
alone for now, for now, for

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now, read your papers. But
within Strangler, they just want to close

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the deal. They just want to
close the case. And I think a

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lot of times for the I'm just
gonna throw it out there because I think

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for the most part, detectives,
investigators and stuff are are good. But

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sometimes they might have a vendetta and
they have a closed mind and just might

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think, well, this dude did
it because I don't like him because he

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was dating my daughter and I caught
him doing some stuff in the bushes and

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I don't like him, So that
scumbag did it, I'm gonna pend it

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on him. Who really did it? Who cares? There are those out

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there too, yeah, trying to
get a convention right. Yeah, And

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at the end of the day,
they'll hide stuff, like I've seen so

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many shows where the prosecutors won't introduce
stuff into evidence, which is against the

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law. Like they have to do
that, you know, they have to

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show the defense what they got and
stuff, and sometimes they won't and it's

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like not fair. So again,
not trying to tell people how to get

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away with crimes. I'm just saying, careful, careful, and we get

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caught up in this system, right. I was having more fun with the

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Wiener cage match, all right,
Back to that, back to that this

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is how it's gonna go. No
going raw with it. So who if

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we had a hot dog eating contest
between Adam would probably wouldn't. I would

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say, it's always a skinny pizza. I can't eat. Look, I

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used to anyone couldn't tell about seeing
me. I used to. I used

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to have a thing. And I
doubt you've listened to these podcasts. Justin

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you might have. I'm still trying
to be puzzled. Like we both each

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got a large pizza the other day
and I was only able to eat half

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a mine. He smashed the whole
pizza. Damn. Yeah time, dang,

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I even't had a PC of yours
justin Yeah, I was hungry.

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Yeah, clearly back to what I
was talking about, which I have no

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idea what that is now, Um
damn do I have to rewind it?

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No? Okay, what was I
talking about win or eating contests? I

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wasn't talking about weed or eating kind
of talking about how Adam would win.

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About that, hea, skinny guy. I was like twenty minutes ago,

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man, something else. It was
about I don't remember our har department,

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that we don't have that at the
beginning already addressed that situation in such a

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way that nobody knows what the hell
I'm talking about, which is good.

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Don't violate any kind of HR laws. See IFR forty two forty two.

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I don't think it's that because it's
HR. Yeah, and that's that's more

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a medical thing. Oh yeah,
I mean you're technically Mitch could be a

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medical Justin I something Justin knows about
it either. Yeah, I'm clueless right

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now. Well, I don't know
about right now, but I mean,

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guys having a little fun. No, it was I don't remember I was

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gonna talking about I'll talk about something
else. But did you like how when

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I told Marnie that it was her
her duty to address the situation earlier and

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her duty Yeah, just so's so
close as he's like, are they making

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fun of me? I don't know
it on rides all day, Marnie,

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I don't know. Nope, but
it was. It was pretty comical because

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there was something that came up and
I was like, I'm not doing it.

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She couldn't look me in the eye. It was like, I've been

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HR and all kinds of stuff recently, so I'm taking my HR break and

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you said she couldn't look him in
the eye. And it was funny how

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she put it too. And this
is so like people are like, let

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us in on the job, let
us in on the joke. You can

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email Mitch Mitchell at seventeen recovery dot
com. Maybe he'll let you in on

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it too. Maybe not, but
that's his email. Maybe he'll write a

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blog about it. And if jeremy's
listening, you better Sitch Jeremy, you

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take those threats to the HR department. Is that Corey at two seventeen recovery

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dot com. It's not even an
employee door. It's always open unless I'm

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not here. It's closed and a
lock tight. Oh man, having fun,

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hon't we? So you're going to
the church tomorrow, Mitch to help

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children. We all have a volunteer
day or if you want to go volunteer

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or something day off to go volunteer. And he's going to church to help

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the kids all day. When you
trick daddy shirt and do it for the

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kids for the kids, would make
one real quick? Yeah we can.

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We had enough of shirts today.
Yeah, you got a hundred shirts that

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you washed and dried, yep,
and folded like half of them. You

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know, Oh, yeah, what
happened if that you were telling me that

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you were going to tell me later
about his time at the laundry Max,

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because I just was like, hey, here's some shirts, let's go drop

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them off. I'm like, peace, I'll call me when they're done.

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Yeah, yeah, I heard you
put too much soapin with them. No,

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it's not HR department. It was
a new HR director that did that

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place. They used machines. They
don't have enough water in them. Dude

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did tell me later after he got
upset and like cooled down, like just

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don't use that one. That one
sucks. He's the one that it's never

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opened because everybody uses it. So
machine. The machine, Well, I

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wasn't nice ill to tell you after
the fact. And there was a lot

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of soapened. I didn't know I
was doing. I was just like it

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got done, and like you look
through the window and it was just soap.

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I mean those white shirts too,
so just so and they opened it

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and it was just like Bruta out
on the floor and yeah, they had

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to go wait in line and have
Antoine helped me. And I'm like Antoine

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the one that was mad. No, No, he got Bob or Steve

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or I don't know what his name
was. He was he was fixing one

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of the other machines and he was
the manager man, and he he's like,

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yeah, so what do I do? He's like, do I swipe

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this card? Because I think they
were like Antoine just wanted to he knew

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nobody was telling me. And I
kind of like, how do I fix

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this? What do I do?
And Antoine's like, do I just want

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my car? I think they're trying
to figure out if they were gonna like

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pay for another cycle for us or
not. And then manager Man's like,

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it looks right. It looks me
right in the eyes and goes, we

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don't pay for mistakes. And I'm
like, well, that's great. Can

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you help me fix this please?
Right? Well? Running our four dollars,

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dude, Yeah, I don't sweat
it. Tell me what I need

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to do. Please another dollar in
for a rent cycle. They ended up

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paying for it, and it was
just yeah, it was a short it

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was like a half cycle, and
it rinsed it out and everything. But

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they're all macause I got soap on
the floor and I'm like, thanks Steve,

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Bob Jim should be thanking us for
helping them clean the floor, right,

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it was rough. Netflace is a
little suspect and they have like a

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drawing of like this old creepy dude
on the outside of their like like,

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oh great, so there's pedophiles here, super, that's just the owner.

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Others creepy people here. That's great. And the side part is that's the

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clean laundry mat and down damn.
I used to have to go there.

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Yeah, when you're slumming it,
right, not your big time in it.

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So the rich people problems, right
yeah, but it's but so okay.

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So then what happened because you were
telling me about somebody yelled at you

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for vaping outside. Oh yeah,
I'm just sitting outside going I just got

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whatever with Steve, Bob Jim whatever
his name was. And um, just

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sitting out in the the bench outside
vaping. And then there's some dude who

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was creepily following me around every time
I was in a different place, and

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he was there when you were there
too, just like standing there for no

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reason, like in between those chairs
where the big one that we did,

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and every time I go to a
different part, he was always there,

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pull me in the blue shirt and
like when I want to go stay in

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line to get Antoine to help me, walks around me to use the garbage

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when I'm doing stuff in the It
was strange. It was just it was

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just strange. I'm like, do
I smell good? Do you do you

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like me? Yeah? The slaundering
MAT's not like the ones you see on

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TV. But there's like lots of
space and between. No, these things

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are like crammed in there. Yeah. If you're going from one side to

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the other, you gotta like there's
always someone coming or going and you have

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to excuse me. And carts that
you can roll around but don't really fit

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anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, But
anyway, we're outside and I was vaping

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my my Cherry Cola breeze and and
he's walking. There's this lady who took

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her stuff out of the dryer and
just took it right to the trunk of

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her car and was folding it into
her car, which I don't know.

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I guess it's a nice day.
Could do what youever you want, lady.

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When she had a kid in her
car and the car was all open.

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And Homie in the blue shirt that's
following me around is pacing up and

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down a sidewalk smoking a cigarette and
gets right up next to her, and

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she's like, will you two please
smoke someplace else? I thought we had

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fifteen feet of freedom. I'm like
what. I was like, fine,

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yeah, like I'll whatever, just
say, hey, can you're not vape

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here? But I think it was
more the smoke that she was upset about.

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It. Would that creepy guy say
he just walked away. I think

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he was scared of her. But
he walked up wind down, like he

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walked to the way. The wind
was blowing right at her anyway, so

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he went like far enough away.
And I'm like, thanks, buddy,

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because I had like a timer on
my phone so I could run in there

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and grab everything every time it was
it was done. But yeah, do

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you think our stuff would have been
still then if you got left it there?

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Yeah, Justin says no, No, I think so. But you

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weren't there with this crowd. Justin, this was an interesting crowd, got

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you. I love the kids screaming. Yeah, I love the kids screaming

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thing. And that's later when I
looked at you and said, I thought

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we were going to supposed to get
like fifty feet or something. You're like

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fifteen but I was talking about the
kids that were just screaming their heads off.

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Oh the mom that just I don't
even if it's legal for me to

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talk about this, but I'm just
sitting there. She just walks up and

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just screaming her kid and just flop
right on the right on the behind,

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right next to me. I looked
at you. I was like, am

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I allowed to just let that happen
like a foot for me? Yeah?

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Yeah, so that is that cool
these days. I didn't know you could

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do that. I think with the
hand. Yeah, only with the hand,

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not with the fist or the back
hand, open hand, or a

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switch by a switch, I mean
like from a tree, a limb.

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Oh, I remember a pick knows
that when I was a kid. Yeah.

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Adrian Peterson remembers it too. Can
you hit them with your Nintendo?

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Though? No, oh no,
I don't. I don't believe. So.

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I don't have kids. I have
cats. They don't talk back.

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Well, they know my cat does. She's like, yeah, nis,

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pretty cool. Yeah, I don't
have to beat my cats or anybody.

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Really. It kind of goes with
the whole saying, like I learned in

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psychology class, if you teach your
kid this is how we deal with things

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when I'm ad. Like, for
instance, one day when I have children's

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and one of them is like,
hey, Daddy, let's go to the

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store. And I go to the
store and I'm like, oh, I

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hate people, and I go punch
somebody, and I'm like, wow,

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when I'm mad and hate people,
it's okay to go punch people. Or

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when I get mad at them,
I'd be like, hey, I'm gonna

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punch you because I'm mad at you, and I punch them and I'm like,

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oh, okay, we punch people
when we're mad, you know.

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And I'm like, hey, you
messed up. I get to spank your

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butt. What okay. So now
they're they're learning all this stuff, so

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like it's physical. You're Christian,
you're really gracious to warn them like that.

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I remember being a kid and every
time go upside the head, dude,

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there was never Hey, I'm gonna
hit you now, no no warning.

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That's pretty really like see you down. I'm like, we're gonna we're

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gonna talk about this. I'm gonna
tell you what you did wrong, and

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I'm gonna thank you. No no, And you're like just in fear of

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like the whole I'm like, oh
my god, I'm getting spank and then

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they'll tryna be all nice and shit, and then then then you had to

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talking. Oh no, I got
to talking, which was twice as scary

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because then you're like, fuck,
it's coming, like it's coming, it's

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coming, Like maybe I'm talking my
way out of this ship. You know.

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Maybe that's why I started learning how
to suck shit. Jerry did it.

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It wasn't me, it was him. Mom was that way. Dad

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would just flop and it was pretty
much you didn't have to like misbehave.

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It was if you were annoying to
him. So yeah, So a little

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kid one time and I was like, hey, dude, let's go over

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here. It was like the first
time I ever went to the mall,

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like get over here, PLoP.
My Mom's gonna listen to this and be

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like, why are you daw melame
sending him on another one. Yeah right,

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yeah, well that was it was
a little much at the laundry Matt

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today and it was experienced, like
I'm glad I got to do it.

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That was Mitchell's first time ever ever
had a laundry matt. Well, like

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when I was six, I mean
we didn't have a wash room dryer.

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But yeah, I've never done it
as an adult, and now I bitch

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at home all the time because our
washroom dryers downstairs. I have to walk

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all the way downstairs, come upstairs, and go down there when you have

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to switch it to the dryer back
upstairs you have downstairs. I mean,

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I try not to use him as
a sleeve. That was like one O

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four. You're teaching experience, right, No, he knows how to do.

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He does his own laundry. Yeah, you're giving them opportunities to help

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other people and make yourself feel good. It's called allowance. Yeah, you

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allow him to live in the house. Right. Also, anyway, it

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was the last time we talked to
your counselor. It's been a minute,

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it's been a long time. She's
trying to get on some priority health I

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guess I don't know. Come on, Susan, let's go with it right,

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Call me when you're ready. I
haven't talked to my therapist since she

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told me not to get married.
Yeah, not very well. I don't

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think they can legally say I told
you so, so you should go back.

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Yeah, it's kind of more of
the shame of defeat that I have

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to admit to. Dude, you're
winning. What are you talking about,

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not defeated? Yeah, yeah,
you are winning on that actually. But

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yeah, there were some people that
told us some things. You didn't want

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to listen, din't want gonna livet
some people, some people. But back

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to my kids getting beaten stuff and
teaching them, like when you give them

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positive reinforcements, which could be a
spanking because you're giving them something. I

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don't started on this. A negative
reinforcement would be taking something away. I'm

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not talking about how it feels or
what the kid thinks, if that's positive

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or negative. I'm just saying,
if you give somebody something, it's kind

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of like their perspective and you're not
responsible for that and it's only your perspective.

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If I were to give you this
tie here, that would be a

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positive reinforcement. If I were to
take your microphone away, that would be

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a negative because I'm taking something.
Do you understand? The positive is you

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give Except for me, that would
be positive because then I could go home.

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But positive, okay, the positive
is to add something. Okay,

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you're adding a spanking? Does that
make more sense? Now? I'm getting

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your logic, but I'm not agreeing, which I didn't make it up.

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It was in some book that they
made me buy. It was one hundred

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and eighty dollars. So these people
were right. That was not in what

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to expect when expect. So there's
positive reinforcements. So for example, you

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know, you guys are recovery coaches. So every time you guys have a

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recovery coach, a recovery come in
and you guys coach them or whatever it

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is you do. I could give
you a sucker like a job and then

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you're like, man, hell yeah, I like suckers. I should Probably

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it will encourage you to go get
more people in so that you can help

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more people and kind of grow the
business and become you know, recovery coaching

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gurus that you are meant to meet. Now, if I were to take

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something away every time you didn't get
somebody in the door or this is a

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horrible example, so I don't know, but I'll just keep going with it

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and said, hey, Mitch,
now you don't get a chair today,

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or justin have fun working on that
computer without a mouse. You know,

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that would be negative reinforcement. So
when you spank a child. Yes,

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you might think, oh, that's
a good thing, and that's you know,

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I'm spanking them, But you can
also give them positive reinforcement in different

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ways to not spank them. I
know this is all over the place and

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makes no sense for just let me
get out of this ditch. Does Marnie

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agree with that? I don't know. She's probably not. She doesn't listen

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to the podcast, so she gets
enough rambling when I'm like, what should

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we have for dinner? Honey,
well we have no no, no,

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and she's like, oh, stop
it, but no instead of spanking,

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I'm thinking of other things that you
could do. I guess is my thing,

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like you know, whether it be
positive or negative reinforcement, but to

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have a talk, I mean,
then this this works good in the Corey

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I don't have kids world. I
don't have kids. I don't know,

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but I mean sometimes you probably just
get the the act right stick out even

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thinking about it. You know,
it's just talk back to me son.

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That was the nineties. Oh yeah, act right stick. It was a

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yard stick for me. Get the
act right slack. If you're real good,

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you you got that hand from dead
when he got home too, Well,

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how would you do it. Then
if you had to give your kid

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like some kind of punishment, some
kind of again positive or negative, take

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away their phone, give him some
trash duty. He's already got to do

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that. So he gets his allowance
to take away his trash duty, take

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take away his air. That's what
I'm saying. I think the face you

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just made, it's starting to make
you realize that the little philosophy here is

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a little off. Yeah, I'm
not gonna give you your chance to do

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my laundry no more. I have
in the past done the grounding thing,

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grounded phone, computer, PlayStation,
something you take away, you do the

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negative, but I've been trying to
do the positive reinforcement. Hey, if

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we choose something different next time,
we can go do something fun, Go

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get a treat you like, like
you like he shakes and stuff. So

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he starts mouthing off. You're like, hey, if you stop mouthing off,

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I'll go get you some ice cream. M kind of I guess,

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yeah, because wouldn't that be the
pole off or whatever the hell that guy's

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name was who did the bell thing
with a dog, Like if you ring

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the bell on the dog heres and
then now it knows it's doing the salivating

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thing, and it's like getting hungry
severytime. Here's the bell. It's like

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food's coming star talking about like the
palle Offs dog or paal Offs, whatever

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the hell that guy's name. I
know. People are like, dude,

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that was like a dead and alive
at the same time. I was dude,

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No, it's a dude. And
he did this thing and like the

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eighteen hundreds and yeah, he rang
the bell and the dogs are like,

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oh, okay, now I'm hungry
because they every time you ring the bell,

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he would feed them. So now
now your kids gonna start talking shit

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you and expect ice cream, And
like, Dad, I'm not doing your

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laundry with skid marks in the underwear
no more. And you're like, son,

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if you stop saying that, let's
go get some ice cream. Thanks

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Dad, you're the best. Not
quite, but yeah, on your way

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at home. He finishes his up
and he's like, Dad used to be

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like cheese sometimes. You know that, Well, son, let's go back

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that whole pie. So let's go
back to the ice cream shot. Go

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get you some more blizzards whatever they're
called flurries. How how come there's gonna

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be one blizzard? But every other
store has a flurry. You can get

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sassy like McDonald's and do the Mick
flurry. Yeah, shouldn't the mix Blizzard?

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It wasn't. Somebody just has some
balls and it's called the real Blizzard.

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The real Blizzard d copyrighted it,
right, That's what I'm saying,

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Like, how come nobody can copyright
the flurry? No one did. Nobody.

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I'm sure somebody did, but I'm
gonna just gives her ship. Yeah,

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nobody else was Bob and Debby's Debbie's
ice cream Shop to do this?

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And then never was like, we
don't care, right, I have a

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blurry. I have a blurry.
That's not a call it. That's a

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different kind of drink coming up.
I can't take your kid out for blurry.

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I want to blurry. I'm gonna
go to the Dirty Queen and ask

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him that. I'm like, hey, man, can give me blurry?

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Like, what's that? I would
have tried that back in the day.

406
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Here, I got some of this. You put it in there for Oh,

407
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:47.119
I've done that. It's a blurry, right, I did that East

408
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:51.079
Jordan Tyrone's Stomping Grounds. There's that
place next to his, and I had

409
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.759
this milky way, and I was
like, hey, man, put that

410
00:29:52.839 --> 00:29:56.960
in there, and they're like,
I wasn't talking about milky Oh no,

411
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.279
yeah, I was trying to give
positive reinforcement. Someone's here and knocking on

412
00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.799
the door. Are you knocking about
you? Hello? I just finder who

413
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:15.039
it is? Hi? Rachel,
Rachel, Hi, Rachel. No,

414
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.279
Hey, Rachel came here. Yes, talking to the microphone and say hello,

415
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.920
hellow seven world. Yeah, we're
talking about blurries. Blurries. Is

416
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:29.160
that what they're calling your hazards?
Blurry flurries? And then we created the

417
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:37.160
blurry yeah flurry as in the shake. Yeah, yeah, y oh.

418
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:44.319
I was thinking it was something that
I wouldn't drink anymore. It sound dangerous

419
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.880
because of the name. Is how
you end up? But Rachel, you

420
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.799
just had your smart Recovery meeting.
How'd that go? It went well.

421
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.720
We had three new faces show up, nice, very excited to come back.

422
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.640
Um, they all got work books, so I'll have to replace those.

423
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.480
But it went really well. Love
watching people learn about smart recovery for

424
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.519
the first time. So yeah,
if we had the door opened a few

425
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:11.680
times and when we weren't in here
being stupid and I heard you leading the

426
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.119
groove and talking, and it's fun
to listen to it and to kind of

427
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:21.440
like interesting. I mean, there
are differences, but it's not meant to

428
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.680
replace any sort of pathway, but
it is interesting if you've used to twelve

429
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:32.559
Steps, the differences between Smart Recovery
and the twelve Step program. And it

430
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.799
grows, oh, I'm sure it
will. If anybody's interested, you can

431
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.279
check it out on Zoom. I
don't know how many people are on Zoom

432
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.079
anymore, but we have that option, so feel free if you just want

433
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.960
to check it out. You don't
have to go in there and say nothing.

434
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.039
Just just go and say hello,
check it out. You can turn

435
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.680
off your camera, your mic,
do whatever you need to do. You

436
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.799
know. Check Rachel out and her
meetings are on Thursdays at five pm.

437
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.839
Yes, come, we'll have workbooks
for everybody. And Smart Recovery dot org

438
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:05.480
is the UM main Smart Recovery website
that you can check out all the material,

439
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.519
all the blogs, the creation of
Smart Recovery. So check it out.

440
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.480
And you have to come on the
podcast and talk about it some time,

441
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:19.119
like for real, invite me.
This isn't real, Like for no,

442
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.559
we're talking about went home hour ago
we're talking about all kinds of dumb

443
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:35.559
stuff like we're having fun. Yeah, yeah, Rachel's pretty cool. And

444
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:38.359
that smart recovery again, like she
said, it's not you know, supposed

445
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.759
to like take place of anything or
whatever, but you use what use everything

446
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.759
for what you can and what can
give you an advantage in your recovery.

447
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:51.400
And that's that's the bottom line.
Man. You know, it's cool that

448
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.240
she comes and you know, host
that meeting here. Yeah, it is,

449
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:57.640
because there's not very many of them
in Traverse City at all. Anyways,

450
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.640
I think she does one at the
porch shitty, yes, as well

451
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.559
in the morning. I can't remember
what data is. Well, that's kind

452
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.559
of blurry of you. Murray Murray. What am I doing? Lury Murray?

453
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:13.920
Oh my god, different name for
every day. I'm tired and Marshall

454
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:20.880
on Mondays, Blurry Murray Tuesdays.
Maybe something. The laundry man got me

455
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:25.880
all those detergent fumes because you put
too much. I was just stump put

456
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.680
it into man. I didn't use
the cup. I just like nut moved

457
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.680
the cup over. I just had
a side on the left and the side

458
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.400
on the right, and I was
like, well, they're filling that one

459
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.519
up too, and there was no
filling it up. It just like went

460
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.480
down into the machines. So I
was like, that's what. So what

461
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:43.079
Tyrell asked me. When he's like, oh, how much did you put

462
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.440
in? I'm like, first,
I didn't do this, Tyrell the new

463
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:52.079
name, I'm gusting and uh.
And it was like, first of all,

464
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.359
I did not do this. And
second I stood here and he put

465
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.160
it in this thing and I like
opened it up and closed it and I

466
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:06.200
was and I'm like, and it's
still there's the SuDS. So he goes,

467
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.679
uh, yeah, it's not supposed
to be like that. I was

468
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:15.159
like, I assumed, Tyrell,
thank you. Justin just not getting it.

469
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.760
I have to get all up in
it. Yeah, so you guys

470
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.239
want to No, you gotta go
here in a minute. Justin not really,

471
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.239
but no, I still got forty
five minutes. He got Justin's meeting

472
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.519
us tonight too, seven pm.
Come on home, down, come on

473
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.920
down, zoom it and Justjic said, oh, Jeremy Duran better be here

474
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:45.039
hopefully like beach boy was doing his
thing earlier, sleeping. Yeah, no

475
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.280
at the beach. Oh yeah,
all you dropped a smile. I can't

476
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.239
believe that much of that. He
had a bad day the other day.

477
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:59.239
He asked, like, he usually
gets about a ninety seven percent acceptance rate,

478
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.440
and it was slopped. He walks
past the woman or a woman walks

479
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.719
past, He's like, oh,
miss ma'am, you dropped her smile.

480
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.960
And I told him he needs to
start doing it like an angry person a

481
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:15.800
certain ethnic group. Oh yo,
miss yo like DMX, yeah, yo

482
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:27.079
dropped your smile. That never mind. But but no, I felt like

483
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.159
I should start playing TLC or something. You know. I don't want no

484
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:37.440
scrub passenger ride or whatever. I
like to say something about it when when

485
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.920
he does it, because it like
breaks the little moment that he has.

486
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:43.159
It's funny. He's like, why
are you gonna be like that? I'm

487
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:50.800
like, because it's really fun for
me. I enjoy watching you hitting on

488
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.199
every woman just kind of pat him
on the back and b we can't all

489
00:35:54.239 --> 00:36:05.159
be heroes. But can't all be
heroes? Man can't do. But everybody

490
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:10.000
who's interested in meeting mister Durand can
show up at five o'clock on Wednesdays for

491
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:15.719
the Seeking Self meetings that we have, which Justin was at, which is

492
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:19.239
Justin's like, hey, I'll support
his meeting nice if he supported mine.

493
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:22.239
Yeah, exactly. That's why I
haven't want to want to Justin's yet,

494
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:28.960
because he hasn't been on a Saturday. Justin has parental duties. By parental

495
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.440
duties. Yeah, he's not even
in town, bro, he's out at

496
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.320
the blurry shop. Right, take
it to the blurry shop. Oh it's

497
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:43.719
not DMX. That's fitty fitty.
He's like, that's a fifty cent and

498
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.440
you're like, that's fitty. The
difference some people that were white that white.

499
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.519
So let's let's set a tim right
here. We can only talk about

500
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.519
this for like four minutes. But
it's the big thing in Traverse City.

501
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:59.320
I think you mentioned it, Jeremy. I think you guys mentioned it.

502
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:06.280
There was a studio called the eight
or something round round well here, studio

503
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.920
eight, at least eight shop eight
something to cut hairs and stuff of people's

504
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.400
faces and bodies and heads. What
cut the hair? It's a salion.

505
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.559
It's a blurry, blurry slion blurs. I ain't growing no blurry slime.

506
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:25.599
You know, eight called eight.
I get my my blurry swan fresh clips

507
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.360
down in Slaptown anyway, I could
read you exactly where the lady posts on

508
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.000
Facebook, but I don't feel like
pull it up, and so I'm gonna

509
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:38.559
paraphrase completely off topic of anything we're
talking about. But she said pretty much

510
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:46.039
in a nutshell, not a mark
chestnutshell. Yeah, she said that she

511
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:51.880
if you don't want damn it.
No, I can't even remember. It

512
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.639
was something about if you don't know
what you are, you should be a

513
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.000
dog, or something like if you
can't figure out your sexuality, like,

514
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.800
like, she's not serving, just
try, that's what you're talking about.

515
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.119
I didn't know the name of it. Yeah, oh, now you guys

516
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.599
don't talk about Yeah, I didn't
know the name of the place. But

517
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.159
it's like they have moneies too,
you don't want their moneys, right,

518
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.039
it's not even about money. Like, I just felt sad for that lady

519
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.320
because it's gotta be not happy about
a lot of things. Dude, I

520
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.440
was like thinking, she gotta drinking
problem. And then again I'm not saying

521
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.400
she does, but no, seriously, like I would be miserable all the

522
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.119
time too and hate on everybody.
Yeah, but you become clean, you

523
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.800
become sober, and you realize what
life's really about. And if somebody wants

524
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.440
to do whatever, dude, who
cares? Man, come get your haircut.

525
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:38.079
Yeah, but it says in the
Bible, Yeah, your Bible,

526
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:44.320
you know, like a lot of
stuff. Yeah, read kings who Yeah,

527
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.559
but then read all the Jesus stuff
where he like went out and personally

528
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:55.079
went to talk to all those people
and he loved them. Because yeah,

529
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.360
that's when you walk away from that
conversation. Not me, I get.

530
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.480
I get blurry all up in it. I'm bring my blurry to the table,

531
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:10.360
blurries bringing the boys. I should
Yeah, my blur read brings out

532
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.920
the boys to the yard? Are
they boys? I don't know why?

533
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:21.079
Day, That's how we moved out
from that. Thank you welcome. But

534
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:22.639
I want to debate that lady.
Like I'm not debater, but it's how

535
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.599
you know how to really enough to
debate. And the only thing I liked

536
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:28.320
about what she said? What was
she called Whitmer a bad name or something

537
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.760
and you're like, oh, yeah, that's right. Stuff she said kind

538
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:34.559
of sad. She probably has a
lot of red in her life, so

539
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.760
like it's I don't know, man, like because your red face because she's

540
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:45.239
drinking to me, blur raise what
was that man I wanted my had a

541
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:52.039
political thought and you brought it back
to the blurry and what no enjoy It

542
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.199
was a roller coaster. It's fun. I'm just I'm still coming off it.

543
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.599
But what if I get her on
the podcast to get it clear name?

544
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.920
Because we were at dinner yesterday and
somebody had mentioned something about it.

545
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.960
I didn't really care too much to
even look into it, but this lady

546
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:14.280
at dinner was like, I don't
know, a few blurries away blue blurries

547
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.119
short of yeah, and I heard
her time. I was like, oh,

548
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.519
that lady, And I don't know
if she worked there, part owner,

549
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.440
the other owner or whatever. And
she's like, yeah, there's a

550
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.199
big um the cops around the way
and there's a bunch of protesters on their

551
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.559
way up there now. And she's
like, oh, I feel so bad.

552
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:30.639
But you know, she said her
head and it was taken out of

553
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.280
context. I'm like, no,
when she posted on Facebook what she said,

554
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.559
I mean like if I was like
I hate all blurries, and then

555
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.159
people were like, wait, what
you hate blurries? Like it was taken

556
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:46.159
out of contexts and the whitmer sucks, you know, like it was taking

557
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.000
a out of contexts like at least
but no, I don't know, I'm

558
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.679
not contentator, just waste of time. But I don't know I did.

559
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.360
I just felt sad for her,
you know, to be like so up

560
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:00.320
in other people's ship, to be
like not gonna serve them and a shop

561
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.519
if they come in here, they
better be a boy or a girl or

562
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.159
the other female. What are you
gonna do? Ask him to drop their

563
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.199
drawers or load of all the females. And there was like, I'm a

564
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:16.400
man, I mean, you know, like what hitting on a somebody one

565
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:22.079
time and they're like, oh no, I'm really I'm trans. She felt

566
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.760
stupid or something or is it to
go back to the Bible? Who knows?

567
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:30.000
Man? Like we need somebody.
So it's her dad's fault. He

568
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:36.400
didn't give her enough negative reinforcement.
No, that was not enough positive reinforce.

569
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:40.079
Took away that car, giving her
more spankings. Maybe that's the problem,

570
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.239
but spank her too much? No, giving her more positive reinforcement,

571
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:52.679
not less take out the trash to
help some people out neighbors trash. But

572
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:53.480
I mean, she has a business, and I don't know there was some

573
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:57.320
law. Maybe pastor didn't I have
no idea. I think that's why she

574
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.599
was mad at Whitmer. I think
it's interesting that out of all places you

575
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.119
do that traversity, like Texas,
you can merely get away from it.

576
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:09.320
You don't hear about that in the
news from Texas. But yeah, and

577
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.840
I don't know it just when the
first when I heard it, though,

578
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.440
I was like, what is this
nineteen sixty five right? You know,

579
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.800
like, how do you how do
you think African Americans feel? How do

580
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.679
you think you know, Latinos feel, how do you think Native Americans feel?

581
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.679
That shit still happening? You know, and if anything, that would

582
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.360
be my thing. It's like like
there's a lot more going on than that

583
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:36.480
lady's shop, you know, there's
a lot more problems going on. And

584
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.639
they're like the law or whatever,
past or whatever, I don't know,

585
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:46.480
it said that you can't fire somebody, not hire somebody because of their sexual

586
00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.880
orientation or their identity or whatever.
And it's like, Okay, that's cool,

587
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.079
but like it still happens just because
you put that in a law,

588
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:59.519
like we're an at will state employment. Yeah, yeah, and like people

589
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:00.840
that will look at us like,
hey, you only hire white guys.

590
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:06.079
Are like, no, we have
Marni, we have Tyrone, you know,

591
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.119
like Tyrone won't freaking work for us. He will not let me pay

592
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:12.480
him. Damn it. Tyro taking
the dron, I was I wish you

593
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.800
were full time here man, Like, Dude's awesome. And I still think

594
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.519
if you put a band in on
the right way and we're bagging up clothes,

595
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.440
you can pass as a Mexican.
Wow, that's not racist at all.

596
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.800
Art apartment, We're going wrong,
It's gonna go. But anyway,

597
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.199
that was my couple of minutes on
that topic, just that I feel sad

598
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.079
for and for people that have like
that much hate in their heart. And

599
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:40.039
also look at the big picture of
the other stuff still going on all over

600
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:45.920
the earth, you know, over
and it's in North Africa. They don't

601
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:50.440
like white people. I think we
should in that North Africa. Oh yeah,

602
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:55.119
South Africa they don't like the other
direction, and which is weird because

603
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.639
they're in Africa. How did they
ever? How did they ever happened?

604
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.480
I don't know. They said North
Africa they aren't like white people, but

605
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:10.840
down in South Africa it's the opposite, like the northern Yes, I'm not

606
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:19.719
for sure. Puzzling anyway, just
end it all. It's not a hate,

607
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.280
and there's a difference because like I
grew up how I grew up.

608
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.079
Justin you grew up, how you
grew up, Mitch, you grew up,

609
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.159
how you grew up. Tyrone,
he grew up how he grew up.

610
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.119
You know, if we find things
that are different than us, we're

611
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.119
gonna be like, oh, wait, that's not how we did it,

612
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:37.199
you know. Or wait, your
pants are different. They look funny,

613
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.079
you know, like you're gonna have
different things because different the way you grew

614
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:44.920
up. That doesn't make you racist. But when you absolutely hate somebody because

615
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.719
of the pants they wear, which, of course the color of your skin,

616
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.840
is when I'm referring to you know, like that is when it kind

617
00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:54.960
of gets a little silly. And
you can't like everybody either. I don't

618
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.880
like all white people, you know, I like this people that I like,

619
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.440
and people that I don't like.
You know, it's not based on

620
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.639
oh he's black, I don't like
him, or oh he's this and I

621
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.280
don't like him. You know,
there are people of all races. I

622
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:14.639
hate. True, I'm a blurry
hater. There's no not that meant to

623
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.239
use that at that time. There's
there's no clear line. I'd be hating

624
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:22.119
all of them. But there's people
that I love, you know, of

625
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.599
of color, you know, and
there's there's people just I don't know.

626
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.760
If you look at like that,
life's a lot better. I'll tell you

627
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.159
that just from my experience. Right, I was raised to like everybody,

628
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:39.719
don't discriminate. I'd like to say
it was they said those things, but

629
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:46.000
then put us in like an all
white community, so they're like, I

630
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:52.880
love everybody, but there wasn't any
other everybody's love, right, and that's

631
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.159
not working on it now. And
that's how you grew up and you can't

632
00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.719
change that. And there's nothing wrong
with growing up in the community you grow

633
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.840
up in. That's the community you
grew up in. You know. Tyrone,

634
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:06.360
he grew up in Detroit. He
grew up in a black community,

635
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.840
you know, and that's that's what
makes it different. And that's why when

636
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:14.559
you know, Tyrone will talk about
things and I don't understand, to look

637
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:15.559
over and he'd like, oh,
he'll explain it to me, you know,

638
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:17.760
just like I'll explain to him sometimes
like oh no, no, this

639
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.639
is you know, and this is
how my family did it. This is

640
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:22.599
what we do for birthday parties.
And he's like, oh, this is

641
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:24.840
what we do far you know,
say, okay, cool. And it's

642
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.559
learning different cultures, which I think
is awesome right now. I don't think

643
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:32.320
we should just have one culture.
I think that would be horrible if we

644
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.840
just had nothing else, you know, this one, but like here it

645
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.280
is. I think it's cool to
have different traveling would be really lame.

646
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:44.599
Yeah, we don't reason to go
anywhere. We can go to Texas and

647
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:52.400
see the same thing you see here. Yeah, stupid dumb people come up

648
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.320
here and they're like, Hey,
I want to go get my hair cut

649
00:46:54.360 --> 00:47:02.880
at this racist ladies place. Any
publicities publicity, Yeah maybe, And you

650
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.079
know there's probably enough people around here
that are like yelp all supporter. You

651
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.199
know, there's probably some really rich
people that are like, I'll cut you

652
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:14.920
a check right now. Yeah,
that's what it's messed up to me.

653
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.039
We should brings it back to my
conversation I had with Adam Nuth the other

654
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.199
day about raw dogs. We're not
raw dogs, but about dogs. Never

655
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.840
mind, listen to that episode.
You don't understand what I'm talking about.

656
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:35.800
It was raw something. Go listen
to the episode if you haven't already.

657
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:38.760
But yeah, if you're still hanging
out, that's pretty cool because probably should

658
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:42.280
have scared you away by now.
Yeah, for sure, give us some

659
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:47.840
positive reinforcement. There's a donation button
at seventeen recovery dot com. You just

660
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.840
go there and hit slash support.
Do that. Check out all the videos

661
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.800
from people's meetings. Justin's metis tonight
at seven, So I got that,

662
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.000
um that zoom. Jump on there. If you've got the two seventeen Recovery

663
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.360
app, you can go right there
to the meetings page and just click on

664
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.519
it. It'll take you right there
and you're right in and there's no waiting

665
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:09.119
room or anything like that, So
jump in. Have fun with Justin.

666
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:15.800
So yeah, and then we have
the disc golf outing coming up on the

667
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.920
twenty second. There'll be more details
on that at two seventeen recovery dot com

668
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.760
within days. And a video that's
pretty awesome, sweet little promo that's gonna

669
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:30.079
be had a lot of fun making
it borderline. There's born I'll saying decent,

670
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.599
but it'll be it'll be fun.
Yeah, it's funny, fun and

671
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.559
recovery that's what we're doing. So
it'll be funny, especially if you know

672
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:45.000
us. Yeah, yes, we'll
check it out. Look for that and

673
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.039
we will talk to you at another
time of our choosing. Bye later.

674
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:53.480
Thanks for listening to the two seventeen
Recovery podcast. We hope you come back

675
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.800
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