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Well, I love any opportunities I
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even virtually, but I got to
say hello to him in person in Tampa

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on the The Zone MVP Promotions call
of the pay per view Jake Paul ultimately

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victorious over Mike Perry. Was a
night of knockouts. At the end of

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the pay per view, Hello Todd
Grisham, good to have you back here

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on the pod, my friend,
Hello TJ. Good to see you in

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person this week and here on Zoom. Thanks for having me. Yeah,

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I know we're right there by each
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person happen, So Todd travels back
to his home a couple thousand miles away

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from me, and we make it
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we're both we're both cohered, okay. So Dan and I have been talking

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it up. I just I staged
it as a night of knockouts there at

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the end. What is your impression
the Baden knockout is a devastating one.

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Serrano gets her first knockout in three
years. We expected it was probably going

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to be a Jake Paul ko It
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twenty four hours after this is all
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Fear No Woman MVP Promotions card in
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a slow start. I was a
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went the distance. You know,
the crowd seventeen thousand fans and they sold

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it out in four weeks, the
promotion in four weeks. That's almost unheard

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of. You know, usually boxing
it's two months, but four weeks to

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find an opponent, get the thing
going, and having seventeen thousand fans there

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and the crowd was just ready to
explode. They were all in such a

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good mood. It's a different boxing
crowd that you normally see a lot of

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young people there. Everyone dressed to
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everywhere, so it's a different crowd. Everyone just kind of wanted to have

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a party. That's the atmosphere I
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fights they were getting a little restless. They were like, wait a minute,

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we didn't come here to watch these
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get knocked down. And then all
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And that changed the whole demeanor of
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were on the call with gab Rizzato, Tyron Woodley and also Ariel Hillwane,

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and that was a one sided fight, wasn't. It wasn't as if silv

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H two O Silv was dominating,
but he was winning. And then suddenly,

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this is why boxing is different,
Todd. We talk about it all

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the time. There is a ten
point shot, unlike a three point shot

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in basketball. There's a ten point
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an eight run home run. It's
called a punch or two and good night

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wow. Yeah. Indeed, in
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I think H two was dominating that
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finish. That's why his hands were
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his food a little bit. He
was tenderizing it. Ipe said on the

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broadcast, I think the referees starting
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maybe gonna intervene here in a little
bit. He was getting beat. Pillar

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to post the CompuBox statistics, I
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in favor of H two. Oh, but you never count out a puncher

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and this guy, I think he'd
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a row or six in a row, but before that, whatever it was,

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but uh, he had plenty of
power and man, he finally landed

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it. And that was one of
those stunning knockouts I've ever seen, not

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just because of the violence of it, but because no one ever saw it

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coming. It'd be different if maybe, you know, he buzzed him a

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little earlier in the fighter. He'd
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and he thought, whoa, but
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then all of a sudden lightning,
big night for Canada and Lucas Badi with

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that ko. And we should mention
you you were on the call for the

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Joshua Ko of Enganu the heavyweights,
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Jang knocking out the bronze bomber Deontay
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this shit that's probably the KO of
the year right now as we sit

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in July. Who knows what happens
the last five months, but that one

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that you called, that might be
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Lucas Badi yeah, and you know, Joe Martinez was the ring announcer.

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You were their TJ. I don't
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basically say, let's all pray for
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and his family. That's how scary
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Yeah, I get excited, but
I've never had a knockout where literally

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my headset flew off. I was
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I caught it in mid air and
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microphone instead of a headset. That's
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you know, to see H two
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saw this from where you were sitting, but when he kind of came to,

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he was throwing punches on his back
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to fight the people waking him up
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that's how scary it was. Yeah, and he was down a good two

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minutes or more, not moving.
There was a lot of concern. I

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was saying to the media people around
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was on a platform where the media
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in the lower level, so we
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able to see. And I kept
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don't know if they're not going to
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to carry him out on a board
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So we're glad that it appears he's
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General Hospital downtown Tampa to check him
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okay after that knockout, all right. So that led to Amanda Serrano and

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this this had mismatch written all over
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of people really believed it was going
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good. She's a world class fighter, and she sized up Stevie Morgan.

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And you barely probably got into your
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all of the about all of the
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basically done with a big barrage of
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I just I love it when a
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them out. I've seen too many
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Now, his opponents have been way
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me wrong. But you sit there
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get this guy out of there,
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know he's just jabbing it. This
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going there, not with reckless abandon
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she was like, wait, I'm
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her out of town. And that's
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and some are saying, well,
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mean, how much more did you
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or ten more times? Where Morgan
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to cover up, how to defend, how to grab fights, to do

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something. So and we're stoked,
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sequel, which will be coming in
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that up. She was talking it
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for that one. And I know
you're to meet him way. Someone asked

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me, I don't know. This
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said, what's the best fight best
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I said, Katie Taylor man is
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that night. There weren't even any
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fight, but the atmosphere was fifty
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almost like a World Cup soccer game
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back and forth and just they threw
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towards the end, it was just
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Gatchee, you know, the stand
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brains out. And that's what they
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I mean, I don't know what
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let's be honest, you know,
Katie's lost since then. She got it

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back, but Amanda's a couple of
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close to that first one and it
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seventy thousand, I mean we're talking
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stuff. Yeah, I mean,
it's gonna be tremendous build up and anticipation

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for that. So that leads us
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some thoughts. Dan's given some thoughts. What were your It was not over

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although it looked like it could have
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went down, I think everybody was
wondering, is this over in a round

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or less? Third straight time for
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that degree. That's me saying that, what are your thoughts now that you've

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had time to digest it? On
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I'm just glad that Perry didn't just
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know, when he got dropped in
that first round, I like you,

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I was like, oh man,
really this this crowd wanted to see.

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They want to be entertained. But
he got back and got back into it,

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and you know, he ended up
getting dropped two more times and he

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didn't really have any electrifying moments Mike
Perry, but he did get the crowd

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on his side and we got some
chance. And I mean, my nephew

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drove down with his fraternity brothers from
the University of Alabama, like a eight

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hour drive yeah, but he called
me the day of we want to come,

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Can you get me tickets? So
I'm scrambling to get him tickets.

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But afterwards they said, man,
that was one of the most fun events

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we've ever been to, and these
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I mean, it was just it
was just a really cool, entertaining night.

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And that say what you about Jake
Paul, but all of his fights

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are entertaining one way or another.
It's it's it's entertainment and that's what it's

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all about. And that's why seventeen
thousand people showed up and he uh and

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he obviously got the win, but
he had to battle for it. Perry

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was tough, I thought, I
thought to me, you were right there

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closer ringside. I thought he looked
tired at times, having the weight cut

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for trying to fight much heavier if
he's fighting Mike Tyson, And he admitted

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this after the fight, that he
cut about twenty five pounds because he had

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to get to proximity of what Mike
carry was going to weigh. He looked

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tired at times. They talked about
him being sick earlier in the week.

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What were your impressions ringside just of
him. I mean, he gets the

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knockout win, that's the only thing
that matters. But what were your thoughts?

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Well, I I yes, I
agree with all. He did look

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tired, he did look winded,
you know, I said he was sick.

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They weren't just you know, playing
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thing was, Jake Paul seemed to
have him in trouble so many times that

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he was going for the knockout.
So he was constantly throwing power punches to

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try and put this guy away.
And that takes a lot of energy,

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especially for someone like you said,
who had to cut twenty pounds in two

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weeks. Love Todd Grisham with me
for just another moment or two, and

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we can't emphasize enough. Here was
my thing when that's when that Serrano knockout

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happened. The anticipation building up to
Paul. And You've done this so many

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times in big ti fights, and
I've been around enough big time fights.

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The anticipation is there anyway. But
I kept remarking to everybody, and I

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texted some people too, and said, everybody in this building is standing right

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now way I mean said before the
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you really had the building stoke.
Just emphasize that one more time. From

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ringside looking around, it's not all
the time that the building is completely full

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with everybody standing and ready to go
in anticipation. And Jake Poll and the

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Kisa Baderien and MVP Promotions, they
deserve a lot of credit for picking the

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opponent Perry him helping it hype it
up, and you add everybody into it,

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and that's what it's all about if
you're promoting a fight, right.

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Yeah. Well, I've seen big
fights for the whole arena standing up and

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excited for the big fight. But
what I rarely ever see is the place

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packed out at nine o'clock. Yeah, the first thing, Yes, packed

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out, and you don't see that. That's because it's a different crowd.

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So for all the haters of Jake
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disservice to boxing and he's making a
mockery to the sport, he's bringing in

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new fans to watch this. And
these new fans aren't nearly as snobby as

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boxing fans. You know, I'm
not gonna get there to the Comain event.

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You know, we'll have dreams and
will show I ain't coming there for

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the early stuff. These guys are
like cool boxing looks fun. Let's get

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there early and have a party.
And that's what they did. They had

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a party last night and it ended
with Jake Paul jumping out of the cake.

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And there you go. And we're
gonna see one of the premier fighters

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in the world coming August third,
and you will be on the call of

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Terrence Crawford going for a junior middleweight
role title with Israel madram Off. I

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know you're looking forward to that next
Broadcay. You've been on a lot of

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big ones, the Yusik win over
Fury already this year, the Ryan Garcia

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upset and the whole debacle out of
the ring with the upset of debating,

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and now we've got August third coming. I know you're gonna recharge the batteries

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and be ready for that in a
couple of weeks. Man, Hey,

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God left, Todd Grisham right,
I am living the dream TJ. I

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mean, you know who wouldn't switch
seats with me in a minute any in

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a heartbeat. I'm very, very
privileged to have my job, and man,

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I sometimes have to pinch myself the
fact that I get to see Crawford

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and an isram a dream up and
that entire car. I mean, Andrew

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Bakoli. That to me is the most

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fascinating fight. Is Cruise is on
the card. I mean, just top

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to bottom, just murderers row.
It's going to be a night to remember

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out in Los Angeles. All right, look forward to you on that one.

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We got to go hit a golf
ball at some point. If you're

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back in Tampa on where you are
or whatever it is, keep up the

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great work. And it was a
it was a thrill to be in and

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around that whole event. You were
obviously on the call. And we'll see

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what happens now on August the third. We'll see what happens with Paul and

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Tyson later on in the year.
That's down a road, but we got

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some other great action before that.
Todd Grisham, thank you. Keep up

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the great work on Dezonne and all
the stuff you do with their coverage.

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We thank you for hanging with us
here on the pod. You got it,

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man, Hey, I think Tampa's
become a boxing hot spot. You

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know what I mean. You've dealt
seventeen thousand piece to a fight four week

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He'll be coming back again, so
we'll see you, Tim,