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with me is Herey J. Manatti and today foun Fantasy, dauntro is out,
Resie Will and I confirmed kind of in the mount rushmore of video game
expansions. What first, aj, how is it going? Thank you so
much for joining me today. Oh, you're very welcome. How are you
doing? Oh, I'm good, I'm very Do you miss the first part
of that question? Are you all right? You know, like when people
like ask you how you're doing, they don't really care. This is an
audio podcast. I need you to actually say words. It's not just the
formattles. Okay, how nice are you? You're still caring? Nice?
I'm good. I'm good. We we ate some barbecue and we uh we
didn't blow anything up though it was raining. Yeah, yeah, it was
kind of a rainy day. We were hanging out for for fourth of July
and that's that's happening right now, so you know that that's exciting. But
yeah, yeah, you know it was a chill four Oh, the kids
were being loud, but then you know, they're being kids. Yeah,
they were misbehaving. They were just Wow, they were just being kids.
And I get it. You know. Our dad had like our dad has
this house and has like this big open space that's like the dining room in
the kitchen and living room. It's all one room. And I think that
seemed like a great idea. But now, like we're always in the same
room a screen, and they couldn't go outside, so they were just kind
of screaming in, you know, the living room while we were in the
kitchen. But that's all right. They're kids. They're allowed to scream a
little bit. I'm not going to be too old and cranky. I've got
a few more years there, I think. But yeah, I don't know.
Otherwise, did you have a good Fourth of July? Yeah, you
know, it was nice, chill, relaxed day and all things considered.
How about you, Oh, it's pretty good. I slept in a lot.
I stayed a very late playing blood Stained Ritual the night because I'm like
pretty close to finishing it, so I was trying to I want to do
that, but it was so lately all right, I guess I'll guess I'll
stop here so I won't say what time I woke up. It's an embarrassing
time. I will not admit it on here. Even on a holidays of
sleep, I got my eight hours of sleep still, despite perhaps falling asleep
when the sun came up. So you can you all can do the math.
You can imagine. Jeff is on vacation at the moment, So thank
you aha for jumping in here. But this works out because fan Fantasy Dontrell
is out the BIS not much not much about that, so me and you
will be able to talk about that. We're also going to do Yeah,
I said, this is a whole mount rushmore video game expansions later. I
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you ready to get into some of the topics now oh ready, I thought
it was. I thought it was a huge news week. I mean,
things are slow anyways because a lot of the big summer events are done,
and we obviously have a holiday here in the US in the middle of the
week. But there's still some nuggets to talk about here. The Resident Evil
seven director ko sheet Naka Nishi has kind of confirmed the next Resident Evil sort
of kind of during the Capcom Next Digital showcase, just kind of talking about
it. It's like, yeah, that's happening. Not gonna said. It
was difficult to figure out what to do have to Resnuebal seven, but I
found it, and to be honest, it feels substantial. I can't share
any details yet, but I hope you're excited for the day. I can't.
So not Gonniche here, director of Resuval Village Class seven, but not
of eight, and hasn't really at least as far as I can see,
hasn't done anything really since then, so presumably it's just been working on whatever
this project is. There were rumors before you that this is going to be
an open world game, kind of one of the like the three big open
world projects that Captain was working on along with Dragons Dogma two and I can't
remember what that there. I thought that was Monster in a while. The
other one that makes sense. Yeah, and this is because they had to
like adapt the ri E engine open world for Dragons Dogma two, so they
can't have that tech base now. And that's interesting because you know, Dragon's
soong with two. I liked it wasn't super my thing. Performance was an
issue on that. At least the demo that I saw of one hundred Wilds
was frame rate wise, writing better, although that demo was crashing a lot
during summer game. That's but again, that game's not coming out till next
year. You can't. Supposedly there was there was a recent Dragons Song with
two patch that addressed some of the CPU issues. I don't know how helpful
it was, but that was like last week it came out. We'll see,
we'll see. So uh but yeah, Resident Evil nine has been rumored
to be a more open world. Uh. Staying here, presumably that's the
next orson Eve we're going to hear about before probably even before another remake here,
because we did have Resident Evil for remake last year, so you would
think nine would be the next one. Here about though there's all sorts of
rumors going around about what remakes are going to be next, with the latest
ones being that it actually would be co Veronica after all, is perhaps what
we might see. But I don't know, A kind of remind me actually,
like how much of a Resident evil person are you? Not? Not
a ton I'm about where you were before you started really playing the games,
right, like like I dabble, Uh, I don't think I've played any
of seven or eight actually, which is funny and I think about it,
but I played, you know, a chunk of four in the past.
I played uh, you know four and it was new Code Veronica. The
first two we rented a bunch. But uh, I'm also kind of a
coward when it comes to things like that. So I don't think that's really
my hang up anymore. I just, uh, I don't know. I
haven't gotten back into them. I don't know what it is with you and
our other brother, Chris, where I did nothing but rave about the the
Resident before remake all last year about how was the greatest game in one of
the greatest years of games ever and either you seem very interested still, But
here's the thing, I did play it I just fell off it. Yeah,
how could you possibly fall off? You know what I think? You
know, you know I think I did that was that I needed to just
not worry about. I got really obsessive with where they like blue things are
supposed to shoot all over the game to like, yeah, sure, I
think I think I got two hung up in those, and then like I
lost my flow and then just the game felt boring because I was just walking
around looking for a little blue lights. I'm curious to see what Resivil nine
is going to look like, aside from being open world and what that means,
what can you do? Will still be first person while they keep that?
Yeah, I don't like. Look, I liked Resident Evil Village.
I did. I actually never played seven. I just watched a play through
of it because I was a coward, so I know what happens in seven.
The first person thing isn't necessarily my favorite way of going about it.
I definitely prefer the third person Resident Evil four method. They're even Resident like
the RESI Evil to remake that controls immaculately to me, so that I definitely
prefer a third person resival. It's not some big deal breaker, but even
just like the way it helps characterize people, right, like the whole Ethan
Winter's character thing, and they were like real weird about the fact that you
don't know what he looks like. It to no end as far as I
can tell right on, like disfigured face or something, just the guy,
right, And it's like, well, it's not like I'm supposed to think
he's me because he's a very distinct named character with like a very specific personality
and specific relationships to all these characters, so don't I never really understood why
they were being so coy about that. And yeah, they did patch third
person into village eventually, I never tried it that way. I don't know
if that really I don't know if it suddenly feels like Resident Evil to Remake
because they did that, right, I guess I'd be curious to see what
that's like, but I don't know. I don't. I'd be happier if
it was just like like kind of the Rezivil Foresaw Resivil to Remake style,
but it's not some big deal breaker. Now when they say open world agent,
what are you expecting from this? Are you expecting something like kind of
like in the Wilderness or big or you think it's going to be like in
a city, like the ruins of a racon city kind of open world.
I mean, city makes more sense. I mean especially because like then aate
have a lot more kind of a rural setting. Yeah. Yeah, eight
already had a rural thing. Even seven was kind of like small town.
I am kind of ready, I think to get back into a city with
resident evil, I think that would be good and you know, no spoorts
or anything, but it won't be Ethan Winters as far as I can tell.
And we did have that DALC for eight that I never played, where
you play as her daughter some years later, so the DLC had a flash
forward already. So there's a lot of questions about what a Residuevil nine is
actually going to look like. Who you are going to play as. I
mean, you know, there are so many good playable characters in residue old
history, and Ethan Winters was fine, but I sure would be more excited
if you told me I was going to play as a Jill or a Claire
or a Leon, not Chris. Chris is a boring cop to to help.
But you know, there's there's there's a lot of fun characters in there
that'd be more than happy to bring it. He let me play as Barry
again. I'll play as Barry. That's fine. I want to like if
it is open city kind of game, if they would go like as far
as to put more like human NPC's who are either fleeing or even helping you
fight using this similar technology the dragons log in the two kind of make it
feel like like like a little bit more of a city and chaos instead of
like a deserted place. That'd be kind of cool. It's just I have
some questions about it that's going to work because you know, like Monster Hunter
and Dragon sawma use a kind of a lot of emergent systems, whereas Resident
Evil is, like the best games are pretty finely crafted, how those encounters
are going to go down, right, Things are placed very meticulously. I
wonder if the resunue format is really going to hold up. You start kind
of leaving a lot of things up to systems instead. Maybe I'm I guess
I'm a little concerned exactly that's going to look like. But uh, you
know, we've also have had a lot of Resident Evil games. It's okay
to take a different a different swing on this one. Yeah, I mean
you could do something even where like almost imagine like in the city you're going
to buildings that are like dungeons, and that's where you're more kind of crafted
traditional Resident Evil experience happens. But when you're moving from place place in the
city, that's where you have emergent stuff that's going on, and you can
bind secrets out there and kind of explore that way. Yeah, I do
hope that we still kind of like go inside buildings and it does feel like
you're in the police station from Resident Evil too or something, or the mansion
in Residuvil for something like that. Yeah, you know, I don't mind
having some open world over world, but I don't know if I necessarily want.
I don't want Dragon's Dogma Resident Evil necessarily, but you know, maybe
I do. Maybe I don't know what I want. That's maybe the bigger
case many times in my life. They've been doing a very good job with
the Resident Evil series the last decade or so. They deserve some grace here.
So I'll be interested to see what this is when we do see more
about it, which probably won't be anytime super soon, I think. But
it was interesting that they did talk about this at this kind of this weird
little Capcom Next Digital Showcase thing, which was like this kind of like all
the summer stuff's done, okap Com, I'm still still talking about a couple
of things over here. Okay, that's fine, but yeah, next up
here. Nintendo won't use gener of AI in its first party games, So
this was some interesting kind of quotes here we got from Nintendo's president. Since
in the game industry, AI like technology has long been used to control enemy
character movements, so gay development and AI technology have always been closely related.
Generative AI, which has been a hot topic in recent years, could be
more creative, but we also recognize that it has issues with intellectual property rights.
We have decades of know how in creating optimal gaming experiences for our customers,
and while we remain flexible and responding to technological developments, we hope to
continue to deliver value that is unique to us and cannot be achieved through technology
alone. You know, I'm pretty happy to see Nintendo kind of come out
and be a bit more like now, we're not doing that with some of
this generative AI stuff. A lot of the generative AI that we've seen in
video games, and there's been versions of that in gaming for a long time.
But you know what, it makes me think of AJA as the kind
of hack job that we got on those GTA like three by City right,
exactly right, and that was like, that's a premiere franchise with you know,
from a studio that can afford to do it themselves, right, and
it's like, oh, this is slop, right, they used AI and
it was kind of one of the first like big times, Like I was
really aware of it, and it was slop that we got delivered. So
I like the weird subtle shade in this, like he's basically saying like,
look, we don't need AI. We're we're we're good enough. We're way
better than anything some shit AI can do. Yeah, So so I am
kind of glad to hear them come out. And look, obviously video games
uses AI in various ways all the time, of course, and you know
the difference there with generative AI and what that means. But you know it's
I guess, you know, I'm glad like Nintendo's not like yeah, we
can use you know, because other CEOs would be like, yeah, we
can use AI to make a video game level. Yeah, right, we'll
use it for our Web three game that's gonna make all the money, right,
So you know, I guess I'm glad that the tone here is more
against than four It's you know, it's maybe much and maybe it's just language
and AI is coming, of course, but still I find that somewhat heartening
from Nintendo. Her and nobusaka Gucci has no interest in bringing Lost Odyssey and
Blue Dragon to new platforms. This is part of a new interview with Bloomberg's
ad Jason Schreier. There's kind of a few nuggets there talking about like,
oh, you want to go back to Final Fantasy, and he was kind
of like, not really, because I like Fantasy fourteen a lot. Now
I don't really want to be like part of the factory anymore. Basically,
he's happier being a fan these days, which is fine for him. I
say, yeah, Lost Oustity and Blue Dragon wasn't that, you know,
it wasn't. I didn't necessarily get aquar picture of why he didn't want to
go back to THO sup Portos. But also, yeah, it feels like
the kind of thing like it'd be an easy payday in a way. Right,
Like, if that just like came out on like Xbox Series and PS
five and Steam with like four K, you'd sell a few copies, right,
Yeah, But also you don't need Sokka Gucci to do that necessarily.
You know who published those It might have been I was at Miss Walker's the
name of the studio. I forget who the actual publisher was. You can
look that up. But they do have good at least Lost Odyssey. It's
good backwards compatibility. I assume Blue Dragon does. Yeah. Yeah, they
both are on backwards compatible and Xbox consoles. I don't know if they got
like all the four K and frame rate boosting. I think they got the
four K. Yeah, so like you know, by new consoles. Hey,
it would be nice to have those things on a Nintendo platform or even
on PlayStation platforms. Sure, that'd be fine. That could maybe still happen.
You don't necessarily need to have Sucker Gucci in the trenches for that and
maybe some other improvements. I don't feel so bad that I never played Blue
Dragon. I'd never really care too much about that one. Lost Odyssey people
love, and I never really played much of it. It's one that's kind
of on my to do list. Maybe part of my problem is because it's
so kind of landlocked on the Xbox, and I don't I really when I
play RPGs Jeripygees, that is almost always a portable gaming system in Betty by
Time kind of thing that I do, so it's probably is a way I
can I can do that now. Yeah, well both were published by Microsoft
Game Studios, so that's an issue. Yeah, I did play. I
played a good chunk of los Ossy back in the day. It's good,
but it had some very slow sections that made me fall off it. Honestly,
these days, whenever I hear anyone talk about it, they're glowing so
right, and I think I think there's a little bit of self editing going
on. Like I remember there was one particular moment early on. It's like
one of the whole tricks of the stories. Your characters like some sort of
immortal or just really ancient. Yeah, there's like gods and like kind of
more normies, the gods normies, and you're like early in the game,
your mother dies, so you go to her funeral and you have to like
light these funeral torches and like you're stuck at like a walking speed and it
just took like a half hour, and there's you weren't doing anything. You're
just walking from torch to torch. There's no dialogue or is nothing. Is
like, Wow, this is really boring. See I'm curious because I mean,
I played a lot of you know, RPG's jerrpgs. I might somewhat
I could be used to that. I don't know. I want to.
I want, I do want to try it. So I'm either gonna have
to actually just use the backwards compatibility to really do it at some point,
or I don't know, maybe you get uh, I wonder, I wonder
there's a three sixty emulator that runs it well enough three sixty. It's funny
how like you say three sixty emulator and I'm like, I don't trust it,
Like no, that like I've never tried I've never tried an emulator beyond
PS two. I think I'm just like no. I I tried a couple
of PS three games and it felt weird. It feels weird, right,
So I mean you're right though it's not those are ancient consoles at this point,
so I probably should try it out. That way. We'll see next
thing we actually got some new NSO games somewhat randomly over the week, a
bunch of any S game, seven of them, big big dump of them,
a big called dump dump of ne e S games for NSL. Here
we have Atlantis, no Nazu. This was already This is a Japanese game.
I think that Japan's ns already have and now we have it. Cobra
Triangle. We only got this, not Japan. This is probably the highlight
of the group AJ for me. Cobra Triangle is a rare game. Uh
It's a kind of top down game where you play as a speedboat with a
gun. So okay, yes, yeah, this game. This game always
looked really fun to me. I never played much of it, so I
do want to try out Cobra Triangle. Donkey Kong Junior Math, which is
what it sounds like. Golf. Now, this is the golf we had
likes open on here. Fuck that I want golf, og golf. This
is like the game our dad, I think everyone's dad played on the ne
e S. Well, that was when when when Dad came home with you
with the Nintendo that we had three games. We had the we had the
pack in triple card of Mario dot Com Track and Field. We have Mickey
Mouse Capades. We had Golf. Yeah, this is one of the first
video games we ever played with our father. It was the only time you
ever beat us in the video game, I think, until we figured out
how to play it and then we beat him. I have to admit not
too like. I don't usually feel very old. The fact that one of
the first games I had was just called golf. I was alive at a
time when the golf game was called golf. Like, all right, uh,
Mark Ryder, this is the motorcycle game Solar Jetman and Urban Champion,
so golf is the cover triangle. I think is really cool. Otherwise,
this isn't some amazing dump of any S games. Not but there there aren't
too many more reasonably we can expect on the NS front, because it's either
like big third party games that are already available and paid collections like your Mega
Man's and your Castlovingias in your contras like they're not just they're not going to
put Castlevania one or Contra one on n S O. Unfortunately, the one
that I'm still shocked we don't have is Star Tropics too. I don't know
why that's just yeah, Nintendo First Party. I mean, I know it
was a late NS game and it didn't come out Japan, but so what
just put that rom on there please, so that one anything else missing,
I mean from like Nintendo proper. Maybe chat can help me out there,
but I think we've got all of the big Nintendo like first party stuff at
this point, which is why. But you know, there are other rare
games on there. I think we do have Snake Rattle Roll there. Getting
Coke Coba Triangle actually is one that I wanted to get on there. I
don't know if we have battle Toads on there, but Chat helped me out.
We have battle Toads on nso we should get Double Dragon and Battle Toads,
which is the much better game for sure. Yeah. Shout outs to
our best crossovers in Gaming episode earlier. Yeah, so yeah, you don't
think we have battle Toads. That's where we should have Battle Toads on there.
Absolutely, So there are still NS games to be had, but you
know, hey, if you want to dump a bunch on there, that's
fine. I think the NS library is the biggest one, which of course
makes sense. It's the old sense. It's the oldest console on there.
But I would love to see see us get some more fires that stop saying
dump no, but I'd love to see turn to watch as we've got in
Genesis Games. So that's what I would really Yeah, yeah, all right,
AJ, that's it for our news here. Why don't we take a
short break. But then I believe we've got some super chats we can look
at. How's that sound That sounds good? All right, We'll be right
back everyone, and we are back. AJ. Would you please read those
super chats, sir? Okay, First one is from Zubermer. They say
Sony dedicated one third of their presentation to the only objectively non exciting title of
any of the summer twenty twenty four publisher presentations. Are they stupid? Wait?
Now, help me out which game are we talking. I believe we're
talking about Concord. Oh my god, I forgot Concord again, which I
realized I was. I was actually updating my fantasy credit because I remembered and
I picked that up in the beginning of the year because it's like all we
knew is like it was some some new shooter from Sony. I was like,
oh, that could be big so it happened. Yeah, you know,
it might be all right, Yeah, I might get some low eighties.
We'll see people played it, they said it was It's fine. It's
just so hard. It's just so hard to tell, right, Like,
Well, I can get an open beta of it in July, and I'll
play it because I'm curious. I just I don't know. I feel like
this is bad timing. I don't know why. Well, it should be
good timing because it should be good because I was solid right now. Over
Watch two is like it's of course doing fine in some ways, but a
lot of people fell off it, right, So like a lot of people
would look for something like Overwatch two is maybe not quite where Wow was when
foun Fantasy fourteen like really popped off, but it's it is kind of like
that a bit. Hm. Yeah, I feel I feel like if I
was going to play a shoot it right now, I pick up Desty two
again because this new expansion, I guess is really good. It's so hard,
but back in. But then I'm also like kind of looking at Black
Ops four coming out soonish, and I'm like, that actually looks like something
like I haven't played a Call of Duty earnestly in a long time. I'm
gonna get it on game Pass maybe, you know, I might just wait
for that and be good. So yeah, I don't know, we'll see.
Maybe I'll play the beta. I love it. That's possible to My
expectation is kind of like and they it's as pessimistic as film Stars, right,
maybe maybe it'll make more. And I didn't even realize that came out,
right, like film Stars came out. I forget. I don't even
know if it's like getting supports too or like, but like even when like
even if you were the finals, when the finals came out with some momentum,
oh yeah, it was huge already huge. Might be pushing it,
but like everyone was talking about it, it was about they had the spotlight
for a little bit. Yeah, they had a little bit of a spotlight
at least, And it already seems like it's it's kind of like on the
way out right. Well, did you see these reports too that like,
hell, the average has dropping ninety percent of its players. Yeah, I
mean that's not like insanely shocking. I mean that's a little shock. That's
a lot for It's difficult for a co op game kind of like that,
right, and right, like once one person stops kind of your whole group's
store, right. I mean, you know, at certain point I had
fun playing hell Divers too, and I played a lot of how you know,
I don't even play as much as some people, And I really like
this, say like I don't know how many how many times I got I
got my thirty bucks worth or whatever? Right, right, I mean that's
a game that kind of I think almost needs the expansion model more than just
like updates are, of course important, but you kind of need big things
to happen to really get everybody excited to come back and see what's going on
with that one? Okay, except from Aeriel Delgado, curse you, Bailey,
you will rue the day. Is this a wrestling thing, I don't
know. No, this is a this is an outer and ring thing.
Aj oh. This is that guy that you fought with. Okay, I
remember this is this. This is a guy that grubbed just killed would immediately
because he's got I don't know what his problem is. Chiff said, I
killed it because he yelled at me. That's what he said. Heels like
he's streightened me. Yeah, it's like You're not Bailey Nora Dragon. So
I don't know what's going on. It's just very impulsive, I guess,
because it's like, man, like, how did you played one hundred hours
of How To Ring? How do you not know that NPCs you talk to
you are important? Like they're very important. You don't just kill them for
funcies. Jeff, Yeah, I think that's the art thing. I think.
I think Jeff is like, I'm on right now, I'm on the
content. It'd be funny to kill him. I don't know. Maybe Jeff
disagrees with that, but he shouldn't have killed that NPC. It was He's
gonna miss out on some hot, some hot screaming content later. Oh yeah,
that that fight, watching you do it was it was very fun.
Are you watched me fight that Dragon? I think I watched it after the
fact, but yeah, cool fight. Yeah, it was good stuff.
It was good stuff. Have you you're not doing it? You never You
never beat bass Elder Ring. No. I think I think I'm at the
point where I could beat mog. I just never did. But like,
so last week there was a night where I was going into the evening like
I'm gonna sit down on firep Eldon Ring, and it was like one of
those nights I was just so tired sitting there in front of the computer.
I'm like, I don't have the energy for elden Ring. So I played
like thirty minutes of Starfield and then went to bed. Starfield. I like
Starfield. This Starfield is my Starfield. Starfield is my like mindless, I
don't even think. I just want to like chill and vibe kind of game.
That's true at least. And then then then Dontrell came out, so
I haven't gone back to busy right all right? From never did you play
any cataclassic age A new zero zero? Well, here's my here's so,
here's my thing work retail guy. Anyways, agent, you don't strike me
as a bunch of a classic guy. Yes and no, so so they're
doing a weird thing to me right now where there are more people don't know.
Yes, there are so many versions of Road of Warcraft now, and
they're all kind of like cool when you start them. So I keep like
bouncing around and not sticking with Like I played a shit ton of Phase one
of Season of Discovery, which is like the kind of twist on classic they
did. Haven't touched it since season one ended. Like I maxed out a
character in season one and then I started playing some alts and got them almost
max and season two came, then didn't play it. Then I started playing
uh the yeah, the Pandaria remix and I got to like level forty I
think, and then I don't know, like I just for a week didn't
play because I was doing something else and just haven't gotten back to it.
So like I don't know, Like like when Cataclassic, I was like,
I'm not going to put time into this. I'm just not again Dawn Trail's
out. If I was going to play, I'd rather play remix. So
okay, I mean kind of cl Some Classics weird because like I didn't like
Original Cataclysm. I thought the whole point of Classic was to undo what Cataclysm
did to the world. So it feels like right, but I mean,
yeah, we go here. Well, eventually you have to wright because you
know time is linear. It's like you have to but when do they stop?
Like when when does Classic just catch up? I guess? I mean,
are we going to have Dragonflight Classic in a year? Like, I
mean, it doesn't have to if you space it out right, it would
never catch up, right, It's just going to always be it seems like,
yeah, they might just slow it down or something, right. I
don't know, but you know, like because I let's think it's like the
animate to the manga of the regular Wow they had to I've been playing remixed
though obviously not aaunchal came out, but I want to at least get like
my one character to max level. I got like one of the I want
to get one more because I am excited for for war Within and yeah,
I am to to. I do want to play that, all right,
let's see. L Grugg says with oh, I'm sorry, I should I
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El grug says with E beating Grubs Times and monkey Ball. How confident is
Mike the Hill best Grubs Times and Nintendo World Championship ne e s Trademark edition.
I am so okay. I want to be careful here. I think
with anything that isn't maybe two D Mario, because that's pretty good that I'm
the favorite on everything else. I think I think I think that's you know,
I think that I just I'm very talented, I'm very dextrous, and
I have more free time than him, you go, which is the secrets
not having soldier it really helps. That's a big point on on that one
there. So you know, we'll see. I'm super excited for that to
come out. I know, like the title keeps releasing a lot of videos
like deep Diving into it more and I haven't even really watched them, like
because I'm sold, Like, I'm there, I'm going to play it.
They did a Treehouse stream that I caught the end of. It was like
two of the guys in the stream. One of the one of the modes
you can do is just a split screen Super Mario race through the original game.
It kind of guides you towards the warp zones because it wants you to
do that. It was. It was an exciting race. It came down
to like a tenth of a second at the end. It was insane.
Uh so, yeah, that's gonna be I got that in my Fantasy Critic
team too. Actually, no one did on it, and I was able
to snag it. You believe you believe we're being counterprogrammed by that dog playing
baseball. By the way, that's that's just rude, kind of kind of
wish I could watch it too. I shouldn't even say it. Don't don't.
Don't worry about that dog playing baseball one it's fake probably no way,
Come on, dogs that can't play Nothing of the rule book says that dog
can't play baseball. A dog can't play baseball. Next, Brian Lay,
with their third super chat on Live, says, I saw the Grifters recently
going after Don Trail and Tiana is by you adventure since Disney and fum Fantasy
fourteen or two of Mike's favorite things. This prove he is the leader of
the work Journalist Cabal. What said Mike, It's true. I am in
facts exposed. I have a deeper secret. I am the character from Mortal
Kombat three Cabal. I have been this entire time. You're literally the work
journalist Cabal. Yeah. I I wear a gas mask with like a really
greasy ponytail, and I have one of those fucking vampire weapons. Show us
the hooks, show us the hooks. And when I run by you really
fast, you spin in place for a while. So that's my tea because
you are the fast I'm Cabalah. Yeah, it's just you know, I
am in such a just ignore that man point, and I think it's the
only thing we can do. Yes, I don't even know what man we're
talking about, but yeah, I probably don't worry about it. Yeah,
I'm not, hey, Chris Pratt writes in Oh No, pitching my friend
Miamoto Son, one of these new mm where a lot of the people stopped
the upas together reminds me in the Arcades as the kids. That's a brilliant
idea, Chris Proson. Okay, somebody at some point in Nintendo must have
pitched like a Mario MML. Right, maybe you think or you think nobody
would dare. No, No, they would never they would would even like
bring it up at any official capacity, Like should we at least look into
this? Nope, you don't think in like two thousand and four, who
has a five world to Warkcof's huge. We's not even out yet. Times
are tough. What are we gonna do? Or somebody wasn't like is there
something here? Nope, didn't even think about it that he crossed their mind.
Okay, you're probably right. You're probably right. They could have used
the we speak for mass communications. We connect twenty four The infrastructure was there,
It was there all along. I think that me versus the closest they
ever got. Do you think you think when Nintendo had fancy Star Online on
the gank you do you think that confused them and scared them a little bit.
But then they made that key board controllers, so maybe they were all
in that keyboardatory ruled. That's good stuff. Yeah, that's good all right,
Burrito says a small tip for the gift of the ten dogs on a
holiday. Thanks guys, You're welcome. You're welcome. See that we're making
time and a half today. Granted, technically technically game messacize, but it's
funny Nintendo is the one doing most of the news this week. It seems
like, are right, all right? That is it for the super chats
for now. Well that was fantastic, Thank you. Yeah, right,
write more and we'll read them and talk about them and make funny jokes.
What I actually want to do aja right now. I know we normally talk
about video games kind of later later, like towards the end of the show,
but I want to talk about our dontro impressions right now before we get
into it. Oh well, let's bring back Mike's adventures in Final Fantasy.
Oh god, oh yeah, people don't know a j N. That's for
the ogs. Yeah, we did our Exploding Bar podcast together, like starting
like two thousand and seven. That's when I was playing through the Final Fancy
series, most of it for the first time. Fun stuff. But yeah,
dontrell the uh what is this the fifth expansion now for uh farmal Fantasy
fourteen. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you already skipped one. You
already skips skiff t Heaven's word. You said rondre Born that he said storm
blood. Oh you were right. Well, yeah, there you go.
That's a mirror. No, it's so you know, I'm not like super
far into it really in the main story quest you you are? You are
like you know, you finished it. That's that's good. Okay, so
you can. Maybe I'll give you permission to join this conversation at appropriate times,
Christian, because you know, I've been enjoying it so far. But
again, I'm not very far. I'm again basically the second open zone edge
that you're a bit further than me. But it's interesting because the vibe in
the community it seems different this time a j and part of it I think
was inevitable because this was always going to be the uh so there's always good
well so reset. In some ways, it's a bit of that Marvel problem
that they had with Endgame, right, everybody has problems when you have the
word end in your project. I guess where end Walker was an end in
a lot of ways, it's always kind of awkward to be like, and
it's gonna keep on going because of course it's going to because nobody really wants
the party to end. Square Enix doesn't obviously because it makes a lot of
money. The players don't because they love the game and they want more of
it. So even though we did have this big kind of payoff and finale
to the story, there is more. Then. The other side of that
is everybody always says like, ah, we you know, the stakes are
always so high, let's do something a bit more chill, And then when
you get that, I think a lot of people are then like, oh,
this doesn't feel important now, right right, So that stuff is like
some of it where I'm like, Okay, maybe it's a predictable the part
where I think maybe score Enix didn't help themselves in so much of this has
a focal point character called wook LaMotte, right, the female roth Car,
and I do I do, actually we like the character. But whether I
like the character or not, I'm a little surprised that they did the thing
they did with Storm Blood, which is the least popular of the expansions,
at least in terms of main story quests, where it was very much about
another character and you were kind of that character's body card in a lot of
ways, and everybody kind of criticized that. So I'm a little surprised that
we are just sort of doing that again with with I mean, it's a
little different and without giving anything away because I'm a little for long, like
it may shock you to learn that there's some character development that's happening in this
story that I think, like people are, you know, making their kind
of snap day one judgment because she she does look at that kind of annoying
RPG character thing where she's like overly confident in braggadocious, but doesn't really have
anything to back it up with, and you kind of just want to like
call her out and her shit, which you actually can do choices sometimes,
Yeah, he does that. All you're fantastic. I'm so happy you're there.
You're great. You just keep doing what you're doing. And but as
far as like the story too, because it's hard to figure out where it's
going to go, like from all the pre release stuff. In a lot
of ways, this felt like uh foual Fantasies missed off pan Daria where it's
like we're going and it's like kind of like there's not really anything going on,
but you know, we saw where Missus van Daria went. It goes
places, and I can see where this could go. So it's not like
I don't feel like like nothing's at stake right now, like there's there's plenty
going on. I can say it's just not at the end of the universe.
I can say that it goes places. We're all spoiling anything, but
like this, there's a grander thing going on after that. So like,
yeah, did you like it? Christian just kind of like broadly just a
thumbs up, thumbs down. I love that. I think it's. Yeah,
I'm biased because I'm Latino and this pansion feels very Latino, like the
diversity and everything, and that's the story about like understanding other people. Like
because this is the thing you're doing here. You're helping this clamat and going
through this this this right like a game of thrones of sort if you would.
Yeah, it's like this, yeah, this like test for her to
become like the ruler of this this this country that form a different other like
tiny societies and so you go through see every other society hold like they're like
what they eat, like their customs and stuff, and you like you find
meaning and of life and that Christian I mean, really, how how much
big band music do you listen to? Not allowed? But I don't know
for I mean, so the music that plays in the main city oftoriol all
is it's a pop like it's a great track. It's like it sounds like
hey, Pachuco. But it's like not what I was expecting at all from
the city music. Yeah, it's good music. I wish it was a
little bit more like I don't know, the fanteic Yeah, but like this
is a fantastical world and they took inspiration from the real war. And when
they do take inspiration for the world, they use it, they do it
very correctly and like they nail the essence of what they use. And so
I really like, like it's just good. I'm really fond of like this
type of story too, Like they all like woke the same path, like
your ancestors. They like to see what's the meaning and that kind of stuff.
I really like. Yeah, And you know, I've seen some people
kind of complain like, oh my gosh, it's like a barrage of lore
and proper names and stuff like that, and it it is, and maybe
they could cut a lot of proper names with hard pronunciators. So the fasting
is a lot of the names they look weird, but when you do just
read it out loud, they're actually not that bad. I found. Yeah,
that's right. But I think that that's also been every expansion in a
lot of ways, like I want to go to something and be like name
all the zones from shadow Breakers, like no one knows someone could, but
do you remember ill meg My? Really? Yeah. The other kind of
the other kind of complaint I hear, and again, this is something that
has been ending with fomp at fourteen is like just you don't actually fight a
lot of things in the main story quest Huh. Yeah, I was surprised
that I think that the philosophy has been Hey, fighting trash mobs in the
open world and MMS is actually not that exciting or engaging, and I generally
agree with that, so that's not typically very interesting content. And yet I
think going like three hours of out fighting a single thing and then mainstore request
is maybe a bit much. So I don't know if there's there's a middle
ground. Like so I really felt that with all the post end Walker patch
content, like it almost felt like a walking simulator with some dungeons, and
there was like a lot of like what's the technical problem here with like Ether
and like we're gonna it's kind of it kind of became Star Trek technobabble,
but with Ether for a little bit there, I really need to explain to
me, like how in universe you're like solving this science problem. That's okay
right now. I mean, I'm very into the Lauren story, so I'm
fine with it, but I couldn't understand why. Like prime example, so
my daughter has been dipping her toes into the game on the Xbox with the
free trial, and I'll play with her, and you know, she's just
doing the beginning MSQ and around were born, and she even she's already complained
like I just want to fight stuff. I'm like you will, but you
got to talk to these ten people like you get whether you like it right
or not. Building damn it, we're setting the stage. But you know,
again, like I think that the vibes in the world, it looks
incredible, of course, like I love the kind of tropical and the you
know, the Central and the South American locals. The aesthetics are very good.
I again, I'm not far enough in the main story request to really
make a judgment on that stuff, but it is interesting because the vibe seems
a little different in the community this time around. But this is how they
were feeling post end Walker, even in the past content too, Like I
don't know what like what like the malaise was there. This is the first
time I'm current with the game, so I don't know what the expectation was
for a new expansion. I think a lot of it has to do with,
again, the kind of story reset and where we are as far as
I mean again, that world's endgame problem is something that the MCU has,
Like you did finish the story, and it's it's kind of it's it's always
a little awkward to kind of finish a story, and well, we've got
to keep going anyways, because for one thing, again, there's a lot
of money on the line, and also like everyone really likes it, people
do want more, but no one's ever quite sure what more should look like.
And this is supposed to be the start of a whole nother storyline,
so it does have to be a lot of set up. I mean,
what's what's the weakest part of the last major story arc. It's a realm
reborn, right, Like, of course it is uh in a lot of
ways, but you know, I think maybe there are things in the future
they can do to help the pacing a little bit, because it is a
lot in the beginning. But here's the thing too, So I've done two
dungeons in a trial so far and they're phenomenal. Like the dungeon and trial
design is the I think some of the best that's ever been. The first
trial fight without getting into specifics, and I just did the trust version because
I like to do the trust the first time. I liked the little incidental
dialogue of the character, isn't it just lets you kind of learn it at
your own pace. That first time it was fantastic, just just really cool
mechanics, really good visual flair to it. I enjoyed it immensely, and
Yoshi P said that was kind of a big focus, was to make encounters
a bit more exciting and get more variety to them, and everybody does seem
happy on that front. That's kind of a weird thing with the way we
evaluate found Fantacy fourteen expansions that it seems like ninety percent of it is just
the main story quest, which of course it's a big chunk of it,
especially in that first month. But you know, everybody thinks storm Blood is
the worst of the expansions because it has the weakest main story quest. There's
a lot of good there, but storm Blood also had like probably two of
the best jobs added in any of the expansions, right, Red Mage and
Samurai are both a ton of fun. It has probably it has like my
favorite of the eight Man's and the Alliance Rate series and stuff like that.
So like, some of that stuff just doesn't seem to get accounted for in
the consideration when we're talking about what's a good and what's a bad. Final
Fancy four kget it's folly to judge any MMO in its first week, like
it just has that time to shake out yet, like you just can't.
And you know, I've actually been good. I've been spend a lot of
my time leveling pichto Manser already. The new jobs if people don't know,
like this is like this is a new magic casting job, but you're an
artist. It's based off of a character Realm in Fantasy six. I really
like it. It's been my favorite job added to the game in a while
because I'm us just like end Walker Reaper and Sage and new jobs there,
they are both fine for me. They didn't do a whole lot for me.
But this job is actually really fun. It seems like it seems it
seems broken that I hear people it's like it does too much damage. Was
like you really, it's becoming a problem for like tanks, where like tanks
can keep up with the with the pick the man. So yeah, that's
because like the problem is that in the beginning of fight you can pump out
a lot of damage very quickly, so like yeah, they actually get said
in like a plopus today, like oh, we're gonna make it so tanks
get more enmity in the beginning so they can hold agro because I think picked
dementters especially are pretty front loaded in their AoE damage at the moment. But
it's a fun It's just kind of a fun job. It's like the aesthetics
are very good, but the rotation also feels good and makes sense. I
haven't really played Viper too much yet outside of the preview event I went to,
but I am excited to uh to try that one out as well.
So you know, ultimately, I've been enjoying the expansion. It's kind of
a little weird. I almost wish I can experience it in more of a
bubble and not kind of like just see like there's all a lot of chatter,
right, there's a lot of people be like, I don't really you
don't like to you know what, I just do. I don't listen to
any of it. Yeah, I know, I really don't. Like I've
been staying off the reddit. I don't really see anything on Twitter. I'm
just playing the game and having fun. Turns out that's a good way to
approach it. So some of us have jobs that require us to be involved.
Yeah, yeah, I know, and all that stuff. So but
no, you you got your collector's box, right, I got my collector's
box, I got you put it all together, dude, yep, I
got my over there. I redeemed my coach just earlier today. So I
did that. Jesus here, look at my beautiful boy. That wasn't the
problem. I expect some super chats that, oh my god, people don't
really have to pay for that about a coverage, there were those Halloween them,
dundee, No, they're just they're just orange orange. They're just orange
incredible. Ah, thank you for thank you for show and tell their a
j Why don't we all take a quick break. We'll be back. We're
we're gonna talk some more about expansions here in a little bit. It's gonna
be great. All right, we're back. So with down Treill and Shadow
of the r Trees or recent releases, AJ, I thought it'd be a
good time to actually talk about video game expansions, and this is one I
think that you'd be pretty well suited for here. Yeah, I think you've
played a good amount the more than Jeff I would think. I don't know
jeff'sa because I don't know. I associate expansions with a lot of Blizzard Cell
games, and that's not totally, just gaming in general on the late nights.
A lot of expansions, right exactly, And there's like a few.
I think the communit is going to help us here too, because there's a
few I don't necessarily I think are popular that I haven't really played. So
I'm interesting what they think about. But aj, I would like to go
to you first and see which one you would like to nominate first for the
Mount Rushmore video game expansions. So I struggle Mike because obviously we are going
to Blizzard, but I don't want to like give him too many flowers.
It's hard because it's like two slots. I'm not gonna lie because then because
we got Warcraft, we got Rod of Warcraft, we got StarCraft, and
we got Diablo that all got banger expansions. It's hard because yeah, they
I do kind of think of Blizzard when I think about expansions. I think
that they were the ones that really made that model work and to a point
where there's, yeah, every game they have it's going to have an expansion,
and the expansion is probably going to rule, right, Like we have
a Diablo for expansion coming this year, and I'm looking way forward to it
because does that feel as important to you as like Reaper of Souls did.
Well, I don't know, it's going to depend how it hits because,
like you know, there's time goes on. There's a blurry line between expansion
and DLC for a lot of games, right, you know, like like
like Alvin Ring is big enough to be an expansion. Uh. In the
past, adding an act and a player class to a Diabolo game was an
expansion. But now it's like you look at Diablo Mortal, that that's that
had a class attitude. It's just an update. Yeah, its blurred,
but it is still like pretty obvious. Like She's an example right where it's
like, okay, that is an expansion that is not just DLC and it's
kind of a we know it and when we see it sort of things sometimes
here. But yeah, but I mean, what's your favorite of all the
Blizzard expansions? I guess aj For me, I'm going to old school,
and it probably is Diablo two. Throwing a ball or bail I never know
how to say. I think it's called I think the lrda terror. I'm
mixing up myself with throwing the ball, the Baulder's Gate two expansion, which
I wrote down because I don't want to forget about it. Yeah, yes,
you're right, lorda Terror, which was a huge deal because again we
played a lot of Diablo to back in the day. Lord of Destruction Terror
is a Diablo. I was like even then, I was like, I
don't think I got it right. Still, why did I write I didn't
write that one. I was like, I remember it, And then I
looked at too expansion titles because they're all kind of like, you know,
game colon nonsense words, game. Yes, but yeah, this you know
it added to classes to Diabolo, which was massive in and of itself,
and that is funny. We got two new classes and now it's like,
no, you get one. It's like can we get to you know it
really is. It really is a bummer, and it bothers me with this
next one, especially since we still don't have a sword in board class and
we're kind of getting another Maji class with this Diablo for expansions called I can't
remember that's one of Hatred. That's Hatred. Yeah, but no, like
that new act was super cool. It's really good. The boss fight was
really good. All was a great boss. But it was like because they
made it feel like you were actually on a battlefield because there be a lot
of kind of NPC barbarians doing their own fighting. It's really cool. Again,
like some of this stuff may sound simple, but back in the early
two thousands it was a big deal. Plus Donable base Yable two is fantastic
already, and it didn't have that cool, that really cool cliffhanger ending with
ball and what's going on there, and it was they to just see that
result in the expansion in a pretty meaningful way, in a way that obviously
left things open for sequels and stuff, but still felt like, oh okay,
Diablo two was this, you know, this fulfilled experience like all of
Theabo two, including Word Destruction, that is still my favorite Diablo game.
I enjoyed Dabbo four. I enjoyed it the Diablo two remake even more.
I am not going to lie, but just to stay on. Like Reaper
of Souls, which is another Diablo expansion. I don't know if it was
so much the expansion or just like the kind of patching of the game,
but that really did fix Diablo three yea different. I think it was in
a rough State until that happened. Yeah, it's kind of a different vibe
because like Destruction just made an amazing game, like more even more amazing.
Then repro of Souls took a kind of disappointing game and brought it a bit
more up to snuff in a way that maybe is even more impressive, Right,
but doesn't mean I like Reproof Souls more than I like Lower Destruction probably,
And then again, I think just getting one class is a little lame.
I'm not gonna lie. Like I liked Crusader. It was fun and
we got the got the necro as paid TLC, and the rumor always was
that there was supposed to be another expansion and that was gonna be the class.
I don't think it's even rumor. I think they just said it.
And that's kind of the problem for yeah, that it kind of does end
like, well, there's gonna be another one, right, I guess we're
doing two expansions, and they're like, no, we're not. So they
just did kind of release Necromancer later as a separate purchase as actual DLC.
Right, we know why they why they canceled it, because like the reaction
the base all through is so bad, like we can't green light two expansions,
but then well we fixed it, but we already shut down that team
too late. All right, so you didn't do Final Fantasy fourteen, so
I guess I'll do that. Yeah, I left that to you. I
do think Shadow Bringers is the Final Fantasy fourteen expansion, and the Heaven's Word
is also amazing. Shadow Bringers really brought everything together. It told this all
time great Final Fantasy story with all time amazing Final Fantasy characters like the Crystal
xarc, like em at Selk. Right, it both managed and this is
where I think it beats end Walker, and I like end Walker a lot,
but ed Walker is clearly a chapter of a story. Shadow Bringers is
that, but also is self contained in its own way, right, which
is amazing. It walks that line very well, like there's there's the macro
stuff going on, but a lot of micro stuff and you're in this you
know, exciting new world, right. So I do like that, and
I like the expansions where I do go someplace new and I get to learn
about things that I'm enjoying. That in Dontrill, for example, but it
was this really kind of alien play that we were in with a lot of
things to learn about and to grow custom to, of a lot of interesting
places, a plot that went really interesting directions, spoke to a lot of
people, and this was the expansion. And part was because we're work up
was in such a bad shape. This was the expansion. And again it
was the third expansion for Fun Fantasy fourteen after a remake of the game where
the game really popped off right because of a bunch of circumstances. But one
of the circumstances is that found Phase fourteen was amazing. It got into really
good place because of all the stuff that this expansion did, and it was
kind of this story that people were saying, Hey, you really should check
this out. There's a lot going on there. It's a ton of fun,
it's really gratifying. It's an amazing experience. There's just so many moments
from that that I still think about it. It's definitely my you know,
I like Heaven's Word a lot too, And again I don't dislike en Walker
or storm Blood either, but Shadow Bringers is the best expand it was incredible.
Also one of the all time great gaming soundtracks period. Oh yeah,
some of the best music ever composed. Yeah, I mean all the Fantasy
fourteen sound to begin but Shadow Bringers is definitely the best one. It's the
meme of the guy on the beach playing the piano on the piano is just
on fire. Oh no, all right, a jay back to you.
Well again, we got to stick with Blizzard for a second because obviously World
of Warcraft has had, you know, twenty years of expansions and it's hard
to deny that probably the biggest deal one was Wrath of the lich King.
That's probably the peak of the game in general. That was when it was
like twelve or fifteen million subscribers. It was so popular, right, and
that was a lot going on because not only was kind of wrapping up a
big story arc of World of Warcraft itself, this was going back to like
Warcraft three wrapping that up as well, you know, super memorable raids,
super memorable dungeons. Added the death Night class and how that tied into the
lore was really cool. It really embraced things like flying in the game in
the ways that even Burnie Crusade when it introduced it didn't like you had very
vertical zones that took advantage of it. The funny thing is because I didn't
have a high enough level character. I didn't play a lot of it back
in the day. But just from the circumstantial furor around it, I mean,
we have a younger cousin who was a young teenager at the time at
best, and he was rating in this gaming. He's not like a gamer.
He just played a lot of World of Warcraft. Yeah, I was
him and his football team, the Boordman High school football team was raiding the
lich King, I know, and it was on you know, it was
only like five years over me. It was like, oh times of change.
Those were two separate groups of people when I was right right, Okay,
that's good to know. Actually, that's nice. Yeah, raft the
lich King is still like if you asked me to name one World of Warcraft
expansion, it's that it was this giant deal. It felt like it kind
of was an n Walker situation again, where it was this big payoff in
a lot of ways. The Lych King was the villain. It was the
big unanswered question from base. World of based Warcraft three and North Rund was
a really well realized zone with a ton of great places to check out.
We had some all timer raids there with Old Doir and then Ice Crun sit
it down. I like the arch and tournament. I know it was for
everybody, but I was actually a big fan of the Death Knights are really
cool. They're kind of overpowered initially, but it was a really cool class
to have in there. I mean, if you again, if you asked
me to name one World War of Spacer, it's probably that Legion would be
the other one. That was really good, and it's kind of a similar
thing, like storyline wise, it's almost a sequel to Raftedic King in a
lot of ways, but though just the way it really focused on that class,
fantasy was really cool in that one. So I was a really big
fan of that of how that tackled things. Gosh, I think I don't
want to just do Blizzard again, but like you know, RTS is kind
of the other thing I think about, And I mean the Frozen Throne was
was pretty meaty stuff, right, That's the That's the RTS one I think
of the most. I would go brood War before I went Frozen Throne.
You know, I'm not much of a star cred that's a big StarCraft guy,
I know, Yeah, but that was huge I'll put StarCraft brood War
as well as a possibility here. I probably need to what what so what
was like what was the stuff that was new to brood War? Now you're
trying to regret, like in my memory the two becomes so combined. Remember,
there weren't it was a new faction. It was just like new units
that you know, the story went went like to eleven right, because it
was and it was it was very dense. There's just a lot to it
was the same thing. They never I didn't add a new faction. It
was still those same four factions. It was just for for that it was
you were able to say that you know, obviously new campaign is a big
thing, and there's new units, but there's also new hero units and Frozen
Throne which have a very big impact. And you know, there was also
that kind of so like the campaign had news story things for the undead,
for the humans and for the night elves, and then the Horde actually kind
of had that weird sort of thing, remember, yeah, right, It
was almost kind of like a bit of a World Warcraft precursor in some ways
how that works. So that was that was interesting. It's I hope that
people in chat if they have, if they're thinking something more from the Comand
and conqueror other RTS games or Total war Hammer, they'll let me know,
because, like take me and you, our RTS experiences are a bit more
laser focused on the Blizzard front, and our list is pretty bizzured heavy right
now. So I think I'm kind of counting on chat or our patreons and
whatnot to help us out with some of the other ones there. And you
know what, maybe we should just go through that right now. J Maybe
we should start seeing which ones that get in there if we have anythings.
So, I don't know. It says this is from casual It's just expand
dong. What is that? What do you mean? It's it's donkey Kong
is cropped in some way, I'm sure, and it says expand dong and
then the emojis below it spell out funky mode. Did people submit these during
pictures? Should I be sharing these? Yeah? They are pictures? Okay?
Is this hard for you to do? It might be hard for me
to do. Actually, I might not have the I may not have the
capacity. I might not have the technology to show both your face and these
things. AJ. So you go ahead, you just keep naming things,
okay. Jamie h twelve twenty four does the Witchard wild Hunt, Blood and
Wine, which I've never played. I never got that far in the Witcher,
but I know people really like So this is one I was curious about
people would mention because I did not play it, and I feel really bad
because people seem to love this one. So I'm kind of curious if like
more people bring it up because I hear how great it is all the time.
I liked Whatitcher three a lot. I always wanted to get back into
this. I was always shocked you weren't a Witcher three guy, aj.
I don't know why. I really can't answer to why that didn't like I.
I picked it back up like a year and a half ago when I
think some update hit or something and it was finally starting to grock with me.
It's just like, part of my issue is it's very hard for me
to like truly invest into a meaty, dense, open world RPG right now,
Final Fantasy notwithstanding, Like I just I can't sit down and play for
hours at a time. Yeah, I don't know, just I just never
really was able to sink my teeth into that. Yeah, if it keeps
showing up, I think we should. And this is one you know,
sometimes it's like I didn't play, I'm not going to consider it. If
I hear enough about things, I'll be happy to consider it. Continue Soji
koto Submit's Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare. Do you ever play this? No?
I don't know. Again, I talked about it before, like especially
during the x x th six year and this is why I never played the
like the original Dead Rising very much and why I'm kind of excited for the
questions. But I was like, I rolled my eyes so hard at the
zombie stuff. It's just the zombie expansion. I hear, it's really good
and it's fun. Now, was that expand alone? How do you feel
about expand alone? I guess we didn't address that's a little different. It
is like when it's not that you need the bass game to play, It
does kind of feel a little different. Doesn't like I wouldn't like I wouldn't
consider like Miles Morales for this, right? Oh absolutely not? No?
Right, So yeah, I think I think that means expand in that in
that regard. Okay, Freedom MC Liberty Balls has rated the Lich King.
Yep, I think that's gonna be a popular one. Uh be has shadow
Bringers, Yeah, I think that's I think that'll I bet there will be
some people who will bring up Heaven's Ward. I think shot Brings is gonna
be the most popular fan fantasy. For one, it took me a long
time to kind of like I was like, Heaven's Ward is like what drew
me into the game. So it was very hard for me to admit to
myself that Shadow Bringers is better. It took me a while too. It
took me a while too, because especially because like like heavens Wards, a
kind of vibe is a bit more my thing, and uh yeah, it's
just so ridiculously good, real good. Yeah, Okay, here to cause
problems. Eden is being clever and has a picture of the Legend of Zelda
Tears of the Kingdom. Ha ha ah, it's cute. This is a
good from beef Hammer. It is a civilization five brave New World. That
was a good expansion for SIEV. I don't know how much you played it.
Yeah, it's yeah. It's interesting because like the siev's six expansions,
like they almost like sometimes these expitched in general, I'm like, I thought
the base game was complicated enough. That was absolutely fine. I did not
need more systems, even when I was playing Stem six recently, right,
and like, it's like it's telling me, it's talking to me about global
warming because there was an expansion that added like natural disasters and stuff like that.
I'm like, I don't really know this is adding much to my experience.
Everybody, there was already a lot going on. I got to think
about. I do remember this was one that people liked. Though, yes,
uh Dachi, Now I'm curious to see what you think about this.
Duraci posts the Smash Brothers Fighter passes. I I think that's a bit more
DLC than expansion to me, but even still, like, I don't think
it's as it would be as substantial as some of these big things were talking
about. And it was like this was funny today live was My daughter was
was yelling at me. She's like, Dad, this YouTube video said that
Steve and Alex were in the Smash Brothers for a limited time, and now
I can't get it. I was like, what are you talking about?
Because you can't get it anymore. I guess you can. You just buy
the Fighter pass. So know, you can't buy Steven Alex. No,
they're in a pass. You just it's like you buy it, Oh,
you can you buy it for me? No? Child? Right right?
Uh? I was like, you didn't play Smash Brothers. You just like
Minecraft. No, I'm not doing that right now? All right? Uh,
Villain Mack has brood War. There's one for that. There you go,
you can. I'm never much of a StarCraft guy. I'm just not.
I don't know. I mean, I'm not a huge RTS guy in
general. I think with Warcraft that was kind of into it, but god,
I just not never much of a StarCraft guy. StarCraft two is weird
because those are really expansions. They just kind of split the game into three.
Yeah, that was You're right. Those don't really feel like expansions in
the way that brood War did. All right, t money Og has Shadow
Bringers. Yeah, okay, this is another one. I don't know how
you feel. Chris two K has percent of five Royale. Is that an
expansion or just like a director's cut? No, that's more director's cut like
or I don't know what. Yeah, that's a different thing. That's like
a different version of like I don't know. No AJ nailed there or whoever
I nailed there with driver's cut. Yeah, absolutely that was me. I'll
take that Dragon's Dog much darker rise or something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,
by the way, we went down for a second, but we're back
on the stream. Yeah, I saw that. Everyone. I don't know
what. Everything was fine on my end, so I don't know what that
was, all right, Chaos Bukaroo says Ghost of Tsushima Ikey Island played it
never played that one is just did this include that co op thing or is
that separate? I don't know. I don't know. No one knows,
No one knows. It's been lost to time. Uh. This is one
that I know people are fond that I never played it either. This is
from Joisey and it is MI Nervous Den for BioShock too. I was curious
about this one coming up also, and people like this more than the bass
game, right, This is one that I keep meaning to play my Nervous
Den. I hear it's great and I really want to. Yeah, I
think that's I think there's something impressive. It's a bit like that Diablo three
thing, right where it's like, oh, this is people like this more
than the base game. That's kind of interesting, right, A disaster by
Leah does blood Borne the Old Hunters that counts, that counts. I've never
I never played blood Borne, people, I've never played blood boor isn't that
crazy? I do? I mean, I hear a lot of people talk
about how much they do like this expansion specifically, and I think when you
know, with with er Tree being out, I kind of hear this brought
up, like, oh, what's the best expansion, right? And I
do hear the Old Hunters kind of brought up a lot so people. In
fact, I'll write it down there, that would be the blood Borne the
Old Hunters should be considered. All right, thank you? All right?
Screaming Madden has Aged Mythology the Titans expansion. Uh. I'm sure I played
it because I like the age mythologies back in the NY. I just can't
remember it. I'm excited for that remake though, that remake. Maybe I'll
check out the remake on that one. Uh M d M D Y say,
uh has brood War. It's more for brood War than I was.
I told you, I told you people like people like brood War. Man
hosp has read alert to URI's Revenge. Okay, again, like we were
how come we were never a Red Alert family agent. I thought Red Alert
was honestly some obscure thing just because it wasn't. It wasn't in our periphery
for some reason. The reason, the reason, And it's funny to think
like this probably shaped a lot of our gaming because I had a buddy in
middle school who had a copy of Warcraft two and he wasn't a gamer,
but he liked Warcraft two and showed it to me and got me to play
it with him, and then that was it. It. Yeah, it
was just like in our bubble, everyone played Warcraft, and I didn't know
anybody who played Red Alert or Commands the the pre internet, pre social media
days. That's how it works, you know. Blew it. Oh well,
doctor Lynch has Diablo to Lord of Destruction. Yeah, Lord Destruction.
That's one that I'd be surprised if it doesn't make it, because that was
just real cool stuff. Man. Hm uh. Tuber has Legacy of the
Void, which again we kind of we kind of disqualified. I guess it's
it's almost like it's almost a part of the trilogy of StarCraft two. Right,
it's a little weird. And again it's like I don't even think you
needed the base game to play it. It's kind of expanded. I think
I forget how those works. I thought that was a weird format for StarCraft
two, to be honest, Yeah, I think they thought they were being
clever. Was this like like the tail end of like episodic gaming was going
to change everything? Maybe it's more like the till beginning of it, to
be honest, I think it was always remember right, Okay? Yeah?
Uh Tyler James Bay says Mass Effect three Citadel, which I like this expansion
a lot. Okay, have you played it? Is this expansion or is
this DLC? Because this is one that so the thing with the what's the
one from Master Efect too that everybody loves the the shadow Broker? The Shadow
Broker because I thought about that, But what is that DLC? Or is
that an expansion? Right? I guess it depends on how substanti like.
It's not like the length of a games. Is that like where we are?
You know, it does not see the length of a game because obviously,
like you know, I pay I bet in some ways it's about as
long as playing through Act five of Dolbow two that they added with, right,
So it's it's just like, I don't know if this is getting brought
up. I've seen a chat. It's once we considered uh you know older
scrolls for Oblivion shivering aisles. Right. Oh, I was going to bring
that up later if we didn't get to it. Yeah, that was a
good one. That was really good, beefy, and there's there were other
DC things for that game that were smaller, right right. So and again,
like I see Archie bixing, what's the difference between DC and expansion.
It is kind of like it's if you see it, basically its size,
right, So it's kind of hard to It's kind of hard to nail down
exactly. I'm going to write elder scrolls for it shiving off because that but
I had I had an interesting experience with this with the Citadel expansion or deal
who are whoever gonna call it? Because I never actually got it back in
the day. I don't know why. I just didn't feel like spending the
fifteen bucks. And like you know, Mass Tact three had ended like it's
one of those DLCs where you like load in earlier save and do it.
So it was like a week before the Mass Effect Legendary Collection came out,
and I was like, I should just go play Citadel. It was kind
of cool because it was like this, like weird, like goodbye to my
original Commander Shepherd and like that run of the game that I had from those
years ago. Well they made it is because a lot of people didn't feel
like they got proper closure in a lot of ways, and so like I
got that in a very extreme way because it was so long after the fact,
and I really enjoyed it for that. So it is good, but
I don't think it goes quite on the mount rushmore. What what are you
laughing at? The next one's funny? Okay, we's been posted a picture
of the Nintendo sixty four expansion pack. Okay, got I enjoy that.
That's pretty good. That's clever, that fucking thing. Oh so you're gonna
play Donkey Kong sixty four that's right? Or perfect dark at more than ten
frames per second. Let's see Hamit of Texas. This is another one I
think we disqualify, but he posts it's half life than Op four in Blue
Shift. But those were expandalones, right, No no, no, no,
no, no, I don't think so. Did they require the BA
S game? I thought I thought they were expandalones. No, I don't
think they are expandalones. Interesting, I don't think they would be quite good
enough any ways. Opposing Force maybe I like Opposing Force. Oposing Force was
pretty good. It's pretty good. That's interesting. They're expanded. That's kind
of like what that's how Gearbox got started, right, Yeah, that's right,
that was that was them. I believe. I like Opposing Force.
It's definitely the time. It was cool, just to have more Half Life
and to see the kind of other perspective of it. I played through it
very recently, so that's rue. So, but I don't know if I
quite What do you think about like Half Life two episode two, because that
is very standalone. I guess, yeah, the same. They are expand
alone for sure. But they're really good too. They're very good. They're
very good. Uh. Bugadillo has x COM two War Off the Chosen.
For as much X comm one as I played, I know, I don't
think I played any two. Oh, it's really good. People like it.
I just never played it. Yeah. If I think about like an
x com like spansion, I will think about the first one Enemy Unknown,
but I don't know if that because that's like a collection of DLCs that like
that doesn't count, right, interesting. Yeah, it's kind of hard to
say because again I didn't play this one much. Same epic Open World that
does have Mass Effect two Layer of the Shadow Broker, which again very good,
especially because like Lear is such a big character. It was weird how
little she was in Mass Effect two. In hindsight, which one do you
like more? Sit Itnel from three or Shadow Broker from two? Oh,
Citadel taking this interesting? I mean it's that's nostalgic talking, I guess,
but uh, Shadbrooker again very good, just like felt like Chadbrocker felt like
this really nice condensed almost mission chain for I know what you mean. I
just kind of like mess With two more than mess Fact three. Also,
that's right, that helps bread Fish has five Brave New World. How do
you feel about this now, Crouching Boom or Hidden Zoomer with Ultra street Fighter
four. Yeah, I think that's a little bit different, right, that's
just kind of a new version of those games. Although it's weird because I
think you actually think Alter street Fighter four actually was just like that's right,
that was like it was weird to buy Super street Fighter four was a different
box. Ultra street Fighter for he was like you could just pay to upgrade.
So it's a little weird, it was, And for that reason it
does not go in the Mountain. It's confusing. It had a lot of
good characters, for sure. Ultra street Fighter four is still very fund up
play, of course, but yeah, so it's a little weird. By
the way, somebody in this Enemy within in the name of the expansion for
x Comb one all right, right, right, yeah, but the whole
all right, Jack, Okay, we got a few more of these kind
of not quite expansions. Mason w Pas Persona four Golden, which again we
kind of just more directors cut. Doctor Ryan has Ultimate Marvels Capcom three,
which again that's much more like Superstrict Also like that should have just been Marvels's
CapCo On three. It came out so soon after the base game there,
it's almost like it's almost a problem, right. Uh. The elden Wolf,
the Elden ring Wolf five has the Ancient Gods for Doom Eternal. I
never I never played. I don't even know about this one. I gotta
be on yeah, same same. Uh. Boomer is still playing Tears.
Has buriald CEA for Shock Infinite You play this one, didn't finish it?
My understanding was that it was two halves of it, and the first half
people were kind of met on, and then the second half people liked it.
Was my understanding for Burial at Sea. Michael Riley has Half Life two
episode two, which we said we like but not really an expansion. He
also he double dipped here has roller Coaster Tycoon two time Twister. Did you
play this one? Mic? Actually, it's funny to me how into roller
Coaster Tycoon you were. I played someone who does like roller Coaster Now.
I have to be honest, like, because I just played like the complete
version of Roaster Tecoon two for so long I can't remember, like what is
what was added to that expansion and what was only in the base game.
But roller Coaster Tycoon two, it's amazing. I freaking love that game.
Yes. Uh, Super Harmon has Dark Souls Are Toorious of the Abyss.
Yeah, that's that's the big Dark Souls expansion. I've kind of been hearing
this talked about too, now that we have Urchery out right, and how
much people do enjoy that. I was kind of curious and like, I
guess I could like speak to it because I beat Urchree, right, do
I think er Tree is like after we got through all the community stuff.
Yeah, and I'm like, maybe, well, we'll get there. I'll
ruminate on that a bit more, all right. J D Camp has the
Mario Kart Track Pass or whatever they call it. Yeah, like again,
that's what DLC. I guess I don't. I'll tell you what. Pretty
good. So how many it's another game's worth of tracks? Yeah? Yeah,
they did not a bad thing, and they did at a time when
we thought the LC was just not happening for that game. So I said,
I don't like playing the Mario Kart World Tour tracks. They're not and
they don't they don't read well. I am constantly running in the invisible walls.
It feels like, yeah, like the weird split pass. Yeah.
Oh well. Jed Moss has yeah, Jed A Moss three or four three
Diablo three Reaper Souls yep, yep. We talked about that. One rt
bick another roller coaster Tacoo. This is coarse screw Follies for the original game,
and it says expansion pack. And there's even a big blue thing that
says requires roller Coaster Tycoon to play, so you know it's an expansion.
There you go. No, that's an expansion, baby, That's what I'm
talking about. Yeah, Tis Yeah, uh, fire Hair with another vote
for Diablo Reaper of Souls. Your per Soul's almost getting more love than a
Lord of Destruction. Yeah. Interesting, like you said it was, it
was like one was like a good expansion to a good game, and was
a good expansion of a game in trouble. Yeah, I get it.
Teriaki Blues has Golden Idle Mysteries The Spider of Lenka. I don't know what
this is. This is that, you know that the Mystery of the Golden
Idol that everybody really likes that I have not gotten to yet. I think
it's coming to game Pass. They just announced though, so we'll check it
out. Maybe I should check it out. Ed has called Duty Black Ops
three zombie chronicles Call of Duty. Huh, enjoy your zombies. I'm discounting
all zombie expansion on Dead Nightmare this thing. Oh, I know, I'm
hateful, Uh cag Cager Tom, I'm just That's how I'm gonna pronounce that
has blood and wine blend and wine. Yeah, that's that's when I really
want to check out sometime. It's I always feel a little comfortable now though,
because like I feel like my time to check it out was a long
time ago, and now right, like you're really gonna go back and play
one hundred hours of your three right now? Right? Do I have access
to that save file? Like still? Because that was an xpot that was
like an early ish expot. Well that one they do have it. You
can you can choose to jump into the expansions and they just like kind of
loose to you. Well, that's funny because like I accidentally did that with
uh with Shivering Aisles, right, I was just playing Oblivion. I didn't.
I played it like like a complete Game of the Year edition of that
game, and I was just wandering around and I found this little island with
a gate and I was like, this seems interesting. I just went in
there. It was like Shivering Aisles, like, oh, I guess I'm
doing this at level one okay, but it weren't scaling, so it was
fine. It just worked out fine, all right. Christian has Undead Nightmare
Poop on that Wow Man and Turbo Sean. I'm surprised this didn't come up
more. Uh, Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven, Phantom Liberty, which people seem
to really like. Yeah, people love that, and to keep telling me
how amazing that is, Matt didn't come up. Uh, I don't know
how you know, you know me, I waited for this expansion early updates
to come out. Then I lasted about three hours in the base game before
I lost my mind. Hand that was funny, it was not for me.
Hmm, okay, So yeah, I mean Tree is it? Tree
is? It has a bit of that. If there's a problem if kind
of like we're talking about Lord Destruction, Well, here's a great game,
and here's more of it in a lot of ways, like er Tree has
a bit problem where it ultimately is just more out and ring. Now what
else should it have been? Probably nothing else. It should have just been
that, And I'm glad it is, and it is amazing to get more
of it. I don't know if it like like that's my interesting point there
with Diablo too, It's like, at least you can play that bas game
again with these new classes and stuff like that, right to shout the tree
add much that makes that base game feel different. I guess you could get
some of these new weapon types like the fists and whatnot, and maybe it's
like fun to play through the base game with that stuff now or do new
game plus. I don't know, but there's nothing about Er Tree that plus
is the original game in any exciting way for me. That's an interesting idea,
like like like how does an expansion affect the original game? Like if
you if you are a newcomer to the game, you bought the complete kit,
is the expansion content affecting you from the get go? Or not?
Right exactly? So some of these some of these games it does like you
know, World of Warcraft. Well I was gonna say you can make a
death type, but no, you had then you have to have a certain
level character. It'd be like eight. There's always big classics. So yeah,
so the World to Work has a bit of an old world problem with
that stuff sometimes. But if they if an expansion has a new race and
you can do that at least, right right, Yeah, So I don't
know. Plus it's just very new. So I'm out right down there.
I don't know, honestly, Like I would almost rather believe some of the
people talking about how much they like to Bloodborne the old Hunters if I also
consider something from from soft do we have a bunch of super chests that are
related to this topic, the ones that related if it's easier to just to
read them all. Now there's a couple of extra ones. Uh Dachi says,
thanks for that show, aj You're welcome the pay extra for that,
like all worthwhile. Jacob Bench says, I just rolled credits on Don Trail.
I just don't get the hate or night there's no chess, he said,
I don't get the hate. Yeah, you know why people do what
they do because it gets engagement on the internet. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
I I bet some people do have to make gripes, but I don't
think I'm going to agree ultimately. I think im ultimately games be fine,
all right? In ten Derek says, all the SIMS games have had a
lot of good expansions over the years, but SIMS three Into the Future or
SIMS four Strangerville have to be my favorites. There's been a lot of SIMS
expansions. There have been a lot of SIMS expansion that's kind of not my
world, right right, that's a whole other place over there going on.
But yeah, el grug says, shout out to Zeno Blake Chronicles three,
Future Redeemed, also Comanda Conquer Zero Hour and Cane's Wrath, but both of
those had individual box releases. I was curious about those. Zenobate two and
Zeno Bate three have the those I would call them straight up expansions that people
seem to really like, and I I was wondering if more people were going
to mention them. Yeah, caj Cadreton, I don't know, it's a
cage whatever has realized they made a mistake and put what's your three? Blood
and Wine? I meant to put parts of stone. Our first child was
born this week. I'm tired, guys. Congratulations, I feel you.
Congratulations. Go go get some sleep. When the when the baby sleeps,
you sleep. It's very important take naps. That's interesting because I again I
didn't played either. I usually hear blood and Wine is the one that gets
propped up like like heart, so some people like the blood and Wine is
the one everyone's kind of high on. Okay, J all right, let's
let's let's parse this. I think Shadow Bringers is a lock. Yeah,
that's like, that's for us, like one of our favorite games of all
time. So I think, I think, I think, I think,
I think it's, you know, to to justify its mount rush moreness is
expanding a game, but it is also doing a very good job of being
its own thing and but and serving both masters like we've talked about. So
yeah, Okay, there's a bunch of Blizzard ones up here. Let's specifically
Diabo two Lord Destruction, Diabo three Reapers Souls, which got mentioned quite a
lot. Actually, gotta World Warcraft actual lich King and Warcraft three Frozen Thrown,
and StarCraft brood War. Okay, so this is if you can only
do one of these, if I can only do one, because one of
the things that I see you guys do and I do it too, and
I'm trying to parse down these lists, I asked, what's the George Washington
of this list? Yeah, and sometimes in a way that feels like brood
War to me. I could see that brood warar got mentioned quite a lot,
right, So I wouldn't be super upset if brood War's there, mm
hmm, because I could see what we would do brood War, and look,
we could maybe do one other Blizzard one specifically because I think maybe Ratha
lich King. Yeah, I was gonna say, do do we just avoid
the Diablo problem altogether and just go with Ratha lich King in my Blizzard?
Might? I mean, let me ask you that we kind of went through
it. If you had to pick at Diablo, would you pick two or
three? It's hard because I really see kind of both points there, right,
which I think we take the cowards way out and just include neither.
It's difficult. Look, I could be a sicko and put three Blizzy games
on here. I don't think that really, I think that looks weird if
it's three Blizzard games. I agree because because at that point then and part
of me almost wants to defer a little bit the chat on one of these
well, like like Blodborne. Know how people love What's your Three Blood and
Whine? People love Them're nervous den Shivering Isles. I did play Shivering Isles
is one I can Yeah, sure Ales is great, but same I again,
I'm willing to defer to the community. In popular opinion that Wich your
Three Blood and Wine is apparently very very very good or in I mean,
did you feel that strongly about I don't those mass effect ones. Do you
really think one of those two is like Mount Restore? No, I mean
they're they're closer to DLC missions than expansions, like, so they know they
have no real bearing on like the game at like the Bass game, it's
just you go off and do this thing and come back and you're done.
Yeah, they chances we can get a poll of blood and wine, my
nervous dead, old hunters and shivering aisles just out of curiosity's sake? Are
you the live chat? Yeah? I can't get it? Well, which
ones? Did you want? Blood and wine? Nervous den, the old
hunters, shivering aisles? Just to kind of see here a bit because he's
they didn't know this tous a democracy? What the hell? What's going on?
That's right? Right? Yeah? Yeah, Jeff in his monocral ways,
monocurl MONTI rickerl it is kingly waves. He's not here to to push
his weight around and just do whatever he wants. So I think that we're
fine. Okay, let me tell you something and now a j mm hm,
I'm looking at raffles king again. Yeah, look we have we have
two MMOs on there, and I'm not getting read chet upbringers. Yeah,
I see whe're going and I I can Okay. Now, granted we also
already have an RTS, so it's like, do we put in a Diablo
instead of World Warkers. It feels a little weird to not have a World
of Warcraft expansion in there. No, I know what you mean. But
also like no, I'm I'm trying to justify it so because it's like it's
an expansion, but it's also just the evolution of a live game, whereas
Diablo is a bit more of like, here's just more of the game with
some changes and updates. Gosh, it's difficult, is that? How we
is that? How we justify it to ourselves? It's hard. It's just
it's just Rapha lich King Again, That game had like fifty million subscribers or
something during that period. I mean, yeah, insanely popular, of course,
Yeah, it's insane, just how good that was. And then I
like Lord of Destruction a lot though, And then I get to a point
with repro Souls just being a big deal for kind of saking that game.
If we were gonna do it. I think I would say Reprove Souls.
I could see that it really I think it really did kind of swoop in
and save that game. Do you like the list more with Wrath of the
lich King or with reprof Souls? Got it? No? I think I
do like it better with Wrath of the lich King, though I think I
might look at better with Rafolitch King. Yeah, it was just such a
big deal. It was so big. I mean, that's when we had
the commercials with mister t and and uh and and uh Shatner, like everything
was was Warcraft when that was out. It was so massive. I am
and I thought this would be the case. I am seeing just a ton
of support for Witcher three Blood and Wine. Yeah, from chat and I
think that's right. I always hear about how amazing it is, so I
think that's what I just need to do at some point. Mm hmm.
If this was the four right here, aj foun Fantasy fourteen, Shadow Bringers,
StarCraft Brewed war World of Warcraft, Raft of the lich King, and
the Witcher three Blood and Wine. As far as the Mount Rush or video
game expansions, how would you feel about that? I think that's pretty good.
I think I think we cover a good swath of time periods. I
mean, Blizzard basically their business model is expansions, so I feel okay with
them having it's like a little there's apartments, like, oh they have two.
But again, man, we are very we were especially growing up and
even still we played a lot of Blizzard games, and that's really where I
even understood the idea of expansions in a lot of ways. I think you're
right at brood War beating kind of the George Washington. I mean there's also
Beyond the Dark Portal, which didn't even get mentioned, right, that was
the Craft two to one, which was good, right, yeah, really
good. You know, I don't want to be called a boomer and talk
about Beyond the Dark Portal too much. Year, so real quick, So
Jedi Moss has a super chat shout out to Destiny to the final shape,
a great conclusion, what Destiny has built the last ten years. No one
us or the podcast producers brought up any Destiny. I was surprised. The
one brought up the Taken King. Yeah that's the one one liked, The
Witch Queen, right, Yeah, that was like that one too, The
Witch Can and it was the other one where they killed Cade. Oh yeah,
what's the one where they kill the Destiny guyn't I know with the when
they are put the Dreaming City and yeah, yeah, but yeah there was
a couple from Destiny to that people for sake, I'm sorry. Yeah,
the name of Spanish is for Hiros, which has nothing to do with forsake
in English really starts of an F. Yeah, I guess, so it's
like, yeah, for it means out, what is it? What is
that? What's up with that? What the fuck? Whatever? I definitely
liked I mean, when I think my favorite Dosney expansion definitely was Taken King
and I made that and that was a bit of a that that's kind of
in a similar boat as Riper of Souls for me, where it sort of
did a lot to fix the game. Right. I'm glad this Destiny expansion
is good. It's on sale on this team, so I might pull the
trigger and pick it up and dip into it. But I do hope the
next thing is Destiny three and they can kind of reset again. I really
hope that's what they do. Well. I see, I mean we didn't.
We didn't see when this when this when Final Shape came out. Fucking
Luke's meat came out of the shadow after he killed another like Life service game
Tony, and he was like, listen, I'm cooking something, bye,
So I'm I'm yeah. It's safe to assume that I think they're working on
this, and if I don't know, it's probably happening. Good good,
That's what I say. Shall we walk it in? Aj? Yes,
let's do it, all right, Matt Rushmore Video game expansions is found Fantasy
fourteen, Shadow Bringers, StarCraft, brood War, World of Warcraft, Raft,
The lich King, and the Wincher, three Blood and Wine. Thank
you so much, Chad and supporters for the help on this one. We're
gonna take a quick break. I'm gonna post this on the Twitter. See
if anybody wants to yell at mean. We'll be back and just talk about
a few other games we've been playing and clean up any more super chats.
So stay tuned, everybody, emn we're back. I don't know why I
am talking like this. I I saw a spider eating a lightning bug when
I was outside. I was exciting, Oh no, or lightning bug.
My kids are sessed with lightning bugs, and I kind of love it.
Very wholesome. There's something very wholesome how like going outside and catching lightning bugs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we call them lightning bugs here, fireflies
in a lot of other places, but they're lightning bugs. A j What
else you been playing besides Bancho if anything? Oh, a handful of things
I'll talk about. I finally didn't fire up Mini shoot Adventures. Oh that's
great. One. That's really it's it's a clever concept. They do a
funny thing that I don't know if you remember this in the very beginning to
kind of like teach you what you're actually playing, because you're like, okay,
I'm in a spaceship. Like the second room has water, and when
you go in that water, you fall into it and then spawn back.
And it's like, okay, I'm not like actually flying. Yes, I'm
hovering. And you know, however, just don't work on water McFly you
boso unless you've got power. That's right. So yeah, it's super it's
super clever. I just kind of started it up. But uh, I
like that. I think I think I might. It's a very fun it's
a very like kind of like quick paced game. I really enjoy Steam Deck
game. Very good. Yeah, it's one I'm gonna remember. I think
come game of the year time. Still, I just really enjoyed many shoot
adventures is good stuff. Right, here's one that is a very unfortunate victim
of timing. Because I want to sink some time into this and I've started
it. The Riven remake came out, Ah, I was wondering if you're
gonna get it because you Yes, I missed three Exile a lot. My
Exile is one of my all time favorite games. I like all the Miss
games, but like I never played Riven because I didn't play it at the
time. Yes, the sequel to Miss, I didn't play it at the
time because as a kid, like we had missed on the Sega Saturn of
all things, and I like playing it. I liked playing it, but
I had no idea what I was doing, Like I couldn't get off the
island. So like when there was a sequel, I was like, well,
I'm not gonna get that. I don't I don't know how to play
this game. So by the time Like three came out, I played three.
I played four. When I was in college. I finally went back
and beat original Miss with my roommate, which was a big deal. But
I never did go back to Riven. It was it was always like the
understanding is that it was a fairly up two scheme, like you flip a
switch and somewhere like on the other side of this island, like a gate
unlocks. It doesn't even open and unlocks, And my understanding is they kind
of like tweak the game so it's a little more logical, I guess,
is how how I'd put it. So I did kind of the first introductory
island and got on the like cool roller coaster thing that you ride to get
off and solve the first batch of puzzles. Wow, is it pretty?
Oh my gosh, it looks so good. Does the remake still have any
FMV stuffers it all replaced. No, so it's all replaced. So that
that was an issue with the relatively recent Mystery maake. It also replaced the
FMV with Real Time three D, but it didn't look very good like it.
They look like they looked like PS three characters. And then they even
they patched in the FMV guys into mist which worked actually pretty well and it
was great. Oh, I would probably do that because like, if I'm
gonna It's like, if I'm gonna play Miss, I kind of want some
of that FMV flavor in there, mane. Right now. The issue with
Riven is because they were more ambitious with how the FMV was integrated into the
game. They're much more in the scenes. It's really not an option to
uh use the old footage. Uh. It's like I believe they even like
re recorded a lot of the dialogue and added story stuff. So but whatever
technology stack they're using. From Miss to Riven, the characters I've met like
look a million times the like they look like proper modern Triple A real time
characters like you you meet Atrus in the very beginning, and it looks good,
so like good that that's fine, it's actually very fine. And you
know, it's still Rand Miller voicing a Trus, which is awesome because I
like, I like that character a lot. So I guess again Ton Trell's
kind of taking over everything right now. But I'll finish this. I want
to see this one through because I really like it. I still want to
do a Missed playthrough at some point here. But I mean that that recent
again, that that Miss remake that came out is very very good. I
did play through that and it's awesome. Okay, yeah, I do want
to again. I'm kind of throwing off how I play it because I want
like part of me is like, oh no, I just want to play
original Miss with the slide show moving and the FMV. But if the remake's
good and if I can maybe mod in just the FMV like people, at
least, that might be enough. Well, here's a cool thing, Riven.
I only Riven did this. I didn't see the option, but the
miss did where it'll randomize some puzzle solutions so that like you can't rely on
past knowledge necessarily. Yeah, I don't know about that. That could be
good though, if you're streaming it, you don't want like chat to like
just give you all the answers. They can guide you, but you fella
hurt them. They understand. Ah okay, okay, good, shame it
publicly. I I need to try the VR support too. It was that
was cool and missed as well, and I bet that'd be fun and living.
Do you think they're gonna do anything with Miss three? I'd love it
if they. Oh my god, they did a proper risk Miss three remake.
Mike, Oh game of the year guaranteed. But that game did such
a good job of integrating the FMV in there, and I imagine they would
do you know, they'd just do CG character models again. But I wanted,
like, I don't want them to recast Brad Durff and like there was
good acting and Miss three, right was incredible in that game. Yeah,
and that's the thing that you're getting in Miss three and four, aside from
resolution, maybe they at least do like the three sixty bubbles where it felt
good enough to real time that it didn't bother. It wasn't as slide showy
feelings for especially Miss for a time, like little interactive bits you could click
on and they moved, like you know, is almost like if there's something
I wish I could do, it's just upscale mystery the way it is.
I kind of be good that. Yeah, four K mystery, That that
be all I need. Man. I like Missed. I like Missed a
lot. I feel like that there was a time where Miss was the biggest
game in the world, right, Like, that was the number one selling
game of all time. It's all was this the sims that that something it
was it was Mike, you heard of tyres Land. No, No,
I have not. This is a it's I believe it's a Korean m m
O, but its whole thing is not only yeah along those lines, but
it's also on mobile with cross plays, so it's like a it's like a
trying to be a legit MMO that you can play on your phone and on
your computers. Career an MMO because Dontrell wasn't out yet, because this was
two weeks ago, I was curious because I wanted to see truly like how
good it can feel on the phone and the truth be told, it's not
bad, like like the like going through the dungeons and then I'm playing as
a bar as a DPS class, Like that's all great, you have a
rotation. You know you're playing an MMO. But it is like a hilariously
bad translation just like and it's all voice acted, and it feels like,
you know, a late nineties, like you know, Japanese game coming to
America, and they like got like the office staff who could speak English to
do these characters. It's incredible, Like honestly, I'm surprised like they were
okay with releasing it the way it is. So if you want to play
an OKAYMMO on your phone with really like so bad it's funny storyline check out
that. I guess. Yeah, no, thank you, Okay, I
didn't. I didn't think you were going to mine. I didn't expect you
to play an MMO and you're you know how much I love playing things on
my phone. Yes, the game on my phone didn't get me the Korean
very true, although it keeps mixed. It sound like people like that game
now again Immortal. I don't. It's on PC. Can play it there?
Uh, hey, do you play that Starfield DLC update? They did?
Sure didn't. So yeah, I'm actually gonna coplain about Starfield. But
I think, wow, now you've got yeah, are listening to make I
don't want to make being a Starfield hater part of my personality. I'm sorry.
Ahead. So they added like the creation kit and like the mods like
that are built into the game, like they did with Skyrim and Fallout four,
And they did the thing where there are like there are some paid ones
and some of them are actually from Bethesda. Right. So one of the
free things in this patch was a new faction that's like Bounty Hunters. I'm
like Okay, that's cool. And you sign up with them and you go
into their kind of headquarters and there's a bounty board and there's like a guy
on it. Okay, so that's like the Michigan do. And I'm like,
okay, how do you how do you get more? Uh more missions?
You got to pay seven bucks for the next one? Mike, of
course, Oh my god? Really? Yeah, yeah, like it's one
of the paid DLCs in the in the Creation Club thing now. They because
they have like the deluxe edition of the game, they gave me ten bucks
worth of the of the credits. Well, okay, I guess I'll get
this and try it. It's fine. I mean, it's a decent bounty
hunting mission that is almost more about like you get like some unique armor.
So it's like you're paying for like both the mission and the armor and the
gunne do. So why why do you have to pay for this? There's
hundreds of planets with all this emergent gameplay waiting for you. Why why do
you have to spend money on some random storyline? There's millions of storylines that
could happen out in the universe. Yeah, not so much, because like
it has like a generic bounty board and there it's they're fun if you like
the gameplay star And again this is like my kind of turn off my brain
and chill thing. But like, you pick a bounty, go to this
planet. There's a building or a mine or whatever, go inside and kill
this guy. That's fine, you know. But so going back to that
first mission, and this is one of the issues. I do have a
Starfield and this is like the worst offender of it, but that as the
games in general do this where you know, like when you got to get
to the end of something, but there's still characters that persist from that story
or mission. They kind of just stop doing anything, but they're still just
there, you know what I mean. Yeah, but you beat Starfield,
you unlock the thing at the end. I'll be vague, I guess,
just in case. And really, all those main characters from the Constellation don't
really have anything to do anymore, but they're there. They just like stop
evolving as people. It's just awkward. It's just they're frozen in time now
for exactly So I'm gonna spoil this mission, deal with it. I guess
if you haven't played it by now, you don't care. So the whole
bounty is you're trying to find this guy who take stolen ships and he has
like a chop shop in an abandoned space station, right, And you find
an informant on the one planet who's gonna take you to where he is because
you threaten him, and you get there. Long story short, you find
out this informant you captured was actually the guy you were looking for all along.
He tricked you. Right now, when you go to his chop shop,
you take a like acquired ship that your partner in this bounty hunting organization
has, and your partner has made it a very big deal. He's about
to break the record for the most bounties consecutively completed without anything going wrong,
and he's like mad that he's being paired with the rookie because doesn't wan anything
to ruin his record. Right. So you have this this ship that's gonna
you're gonna drive to the chop shop, and this informant guy's gonna be like,
hey, I found this ship, gonna I'm just drop it off.
And that's how you sneak in, right, And you tell this guy before
you go, like, well, I have like a crew, should we
bring them. He's like, no, we don't need them, but I
guess that's up to you. I'm gonna bring my crew. So I'm in
the ship with like four companions, right, so the eendest vision. Sorry,
Sean called me out so hard and chat He's like, my kids gone
along. I'm trying so hard to focus. Hey, g please continue this
star filled side quest to me. You just so you you tied up this
guy in your ship so we can't get away, right And also in this
ship are four of my best friends right right? Yeah, you can see
where this is going. He likes on the radio and he's like, Haha,
I tricked you. I'm gonna fly this ship away now and it's mine.
Don't worry. I left you a shitty ship so you can get away
because I'm not that bad of a guy. And I'm going to disappear now,
so goodbye forever. And I'm sitting there thinking, but like, my
four best friends are on that ship. They are they letting this happen?
And then the ship flies away. I'm like, are my fore best friends
still on that ship? And then I admit that's pretty fucking stupid. But
then I get in this shitty ship. This guy left me and there's my
four best friends, Like, how'd you guys get because you know, in
the game logic, this is just your ship now, so that's where the
NPCs that happened. So that that happens. Okay, Well we gotta find
this guy, right, we gotta go figure out where he went. So
you go back to the headquarters and you talk to number one and he's like,
we'll never find him now, and I'm like, well, we know
what he looks like and like yeah, but he could be anywhere. And
I'm like, well, should we go look for him. No, that's
the end of the mission. That's it. He got away. Wait,
actually steals your ship? Yes, fine for Reno and again, not your
ship. It's like the ship the mission gives you to be like a decoy
ship. Oh, that's just that would have. But so then I go
to the guy who the guy went on and on about how like the rookie
bit not ruined my street. You think he'd be upset, right, Nah,
he's fine, He's totally fine, Like just just nothing about this makes
sense. You paid bucks for this. No, that was the free one.
The seven dollars one is completely unrelated. It's it's a new bounty,
new characters, has nothing to do with that guy. Stop playing Starfield age.
It sucks. I'm sorry. I never I changed my mind. It
maybe it is my personality. You could do so much better play Whatcher three?
But and why they said it and they say it's great. I say,
all these people are saying it's fantastic. For love of god, AJ,
you could do so much better. But I could play star Field pretty
mindlessly now because my character is powerful enough. I just can't. I just
like, yeah, getting in there and doing stuff. Yeah, I would
admit that was all kind of tomb I am curious. Mission. The mission
was fine. The space station was like zero G. You're fighting these guys
in zero G. But that was great. I don't know. Zero G's
rude for me because of all the times I had to fly into a mini
Starfield getting a new stupid power. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see.
I'll be curious to see what that expansion does. Speaking O Sean,
I'm playing don Show. This was pre Don Trell. I'm only playing Doncho
right now. Man Dad, Thank god? Okay, Well all right,
Mike, what what what? What? What are you playing? What old
games. Are you playing? Well, I am. I am playing through
Blood Stain Cho to Night. In fact, I am on the final boss
and I will be beating that tonight. And I really enjoyed it. It
really is just another one of those like Ega Metroit Vina Castlevania games, and
that's exactly what I was craving, and it is specifically very much in that
Aria of Sorrow mode. Yeah, it was just really fun. It was.
I don't know why I didn't get into it the first time around.
I don't know why I was so thrown off by the story because it's not
that well invasive it is in the beginning, the beginning, I think,
so, I think that's why I saw off. I was like, OK,
no, one will shut up. It really does like it's not ever
that bad again, It's more it's like normal Ego Metroid Venue stuff after that,
where you know, there's you see some characters sometimes and they talk and
it's not very important and you kind of glaze over, like when your brother
describes in detail along mission in Starfield. But yeah, can you move on
with your life and you play the fun video game and it's great. But
yeah, so I'm excited to beat that tonight and then yeah, I don't
know if I'm gonna immediately start Order of Ecclesia because I did by that recently.
Maybe i might plug in my DS and do some old DS stuff.
It might be fun. But playing Psychoonots. Also for the game as game
club, I'm a little bit behind, but I've been making good progress on
that front. That game is good, it's I did some of the more
popular levels in it recently, like the level the kind of godzoa level which
is neat than the Milkman level. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so
we got to do the Meat Circus. I think that's the last level,
the infamous last level that people hate for some reason because it's difficult. I
could remember where it fell in the order. I just remember, Yeah,
it's pretty late, so we'll see. I will say. It's funny,
how like I feel like there should be more platforming in the game, right,
Like every level kind of has a gimmick sometimes and something I'm like,
I wish this almost gimmick was that as a platformer. I think it's like
two is very good with that, where there is a lot of platforming and
then you still have the gimmicks that kind of change things up, but the
focus is still on that platforming a lot of the times. But I'm still
having a good time with that. The writing's still very good. It's in
my uh my, my work office. But I do have still my my
box from the PC version signed by Tim Schaefer that says, aj, I
made this game just for you. Yeah, I showed off my uh my
Xbox copy is signed I So I showed that off too, So that's neat.
Yeah, that's how small Double Fine used to be. Everybody when you
pre order their game, the owner of the company would sign it with a
personalized message. Yeah, it was great. It was a good deal back
then. Seriously, all right, okay, remember remember we were at I
think it's the first Pack s East and Double five was going off that Iron
Brigade game and Tim Shaeffer was like giving the demos, so we like gotten
his line and then we were coming up he like left, and we're like,
no, I don't really want to play the game. I just wanted
to talk to you. I don't really care about man, I forgot about
that game. Yeah. Uh, if you want to read the rest of
the super chats, yeah, we got a few more. The Last Chance
we want to get one in b Traven says, happy forth, please tell
Sean that his EVO talk and Giant Bomb has been awesome and we're looking forward
to hearing how it goes. Yeah, do you hear that, Sean?
I am going to EVO. Just be clear, Just be clear. I
am not competing this year. I am there right well, first, first
of all vacation adjacent, but also to work. I will be working at
EVO this year. I got the assignments. Maybe that made that expanded an
interesting way that I can talk about later. All right, exciting. Did
you guys? Did you guys see that Deadpool comic panel where he makes a
joke about Mars' captain for I think I think people are reading too much into
but still, oh yeah, that's just dead Pool of being Deadpool. But
right, it's also just a comic writer doing a thing. I don't think
he got some directive from like cap to but maybe. Anyways, if anyone's
going to Evil, make sure you say hi, especially if you want to
be many part of a video that I'm doing. All right, I'm not
sadly so hopefully something hopefully next year? Yeah go next? Yeah, yeah,
everybody should you know this year is it always the same place Vegas?
I believe it's always It's always a Vegas. It's in new location within Vegas
this year. But yeah, Sean, go ride the monorail in Vegas?
Is that still is still a monorail? There's there's monorails there. Yes,
listen to ninety Disney about monorails and then ride the Vegas monorail. Sean.
I saw someone, because you know, you f toc looks out for each
other, and they were posting some deals. I saw. Apparently there's like
a weekend mono rail passing. You get twenty bucks as a special that weekend.
So well, yeah, well get did you know did you know that's
called Monroe because it rides on one rail all right time. Anyways, do
you know, Mike just learned that this week no more super chests AJ One
more from Zubermer, who says, are zz zero girls as dominant as Kafka?
She's hot? Zuber gotta be honest, I have no idea what you're
talking about. Chris. Shouldn't you want to answer this one? Uh?
No? Okay, thank you for the super chat, Submer, appreciate it.
Well, that is it for the super chats. Should I start playing
us out? AJ? I guess so. Now you're not gonna hear it,
but don't worry. I'll start talking, and I believe when it gets
louder. All right, Thank you, Thank you AJ so much for joining
me. I had a lot of fun talking about video game expansions and Don
Treil and that thing that happened to you in Starfield. We're breaking the internet,
people, we're breaking out. Yeah. Earlier in the podcast, when
you broke the Internet, I think, yeah, you could rival rival Kim
K with that one. No, it was good stuff, a j thing
you want to plug. Yeah, nineties Disney, like Mike said, we
just did a very fun episode about the monoail, even though it goes back
to the eighteen twenties. We had it on our nineties Disney and we're gonna
next month have an episode on Typhoon Lagoon that will be very fun. So
check out nineties Disney dot com for that. Yeah, thank you AJ,
and thank you Sean for join. Even though it's a holiday, I do
appreciate it. Christian christ it's Thursday. Your attendance was mandatory, but you
know, so appreciate you being here. But no it's weird that, like
tomorrow's Friday, this day has so many Saturday vibes. Jess should be back
next week, although you'll be coming. I'm going to be out on Thursday.
I can't. I can't actually say why, but I'm traveling for work.
So yeah, Jeff's gonna have to get somebody to cover there. I'm
gonna leave on Wednesday. We still can't do blay club. Damn it.
I have to leave on Wednesday. So I know Jeff. Jeff really is
getting a nice break there. I think he could use it. All this
skills an atrophy. Now he's on a new world. Now his weapons reset.
Oh no, he started doing some of it. You had to like
go around some weird medieval town and get a cross bolt. It looks terrible.
I'm so glad, weird, I'm so glad I pinned him with dkatana
before you could get me with it. That would have been the worst thing
that could have happened to me. Absolutely. Oh gosh, I don't know
the music still playing. I think Jeff normally plays. We don't know what
because we don't hear the music. So un till I see evidence that the
world is around I'm not believing a damn thing. I have been plenty,
Ornie, thank you. It's hard yet it's hard pretty, I mean I
beat it. Oh you beat it right? All right, everybody, we
can get right back to it. You guys chat. Do you hear the
fireworks that are going off here? I'm not sure if you do it.
I don't hear anything. We don't hear it? Good good? All right,
ready you can just get right back into it. Ye ready, its
expansion right there. I'm going to do this very careful. Ah, all
right, let me get this scene. How am I going to do this
exactly? I might have to, like, I do you know the fireworks
are popping off now? One second popping off? No, just do it,
like, wait until you see the pacast Then it's going to be a
ten out of ten expansion. Our packas, Oh baby, they man,
they're so cute in this game. They're so I said, I I've I've
gotten out pocas and does not like them. Yeah, thinks they're gross,
and I'm like, oh they're gross. They fucking yeah. Alpaca and nechos
there's like they're like they're kind of like all pacas, but like taller.
It'll also spin a lot. Don't mind that. I tried to get this
set up beforehand, and I almost had, but then I forgot that if
I don't have this word open, we don't see a j so refigure.
You can't open. You can open discord on the on the on the chrome
top if you want to. It just doesn't. Yeah, I don't know.
I got it. I'll got it, all right, I'll get there.
I've believing you. You can do it. I know you can do
it. I can do it. Remember when you when I told you I
put the other game on on the tiny corner, you were like, I
can't do that, and then I apologize. I apologize. I was like,
I was like, no you can't, Mike. I was, You're
right. Tell your sister you were right. That's a Star Wars reference.
Everybody, good job. I got to add this scene again. I don't
know. It's not working. What do I call that window capture existing sheet?
Yeah, I got I go. Yeah. I'm like I was playing
something like some like those those little one hundred dungeons, and every dungeon is
a pick the monster, and I god damn viper and already know the picture
is when I get sucked up. So I'm like, I'm hitting the pick
up before I heal the tank, when the trash will happens. It's like,
yeah, I didn't. I didn't realize I was that's the thing that
was happening. I was like, oh, it's just like it's just it's
in your expansion and everybody like maybe the tanks are like rusty and I got
unlucky and the tanks don't know how to like pull properly. So I'm just
like I wasn't like I didn't thought it was like, no, I fucking
pick the Martins. I'm fucking ship up. I'm right, I'm gonna get
drink real quick and see you better run too many games, too many names.
I got whenever I tried to look in, it's fucked up. Because
now when I come out of work and I tried to log in the fucking
cues like two k people, I was like, you know, that's the
one I was about. It was fine yesterday I was shocked. Oh yesterd
it was fine, but like, uh, the other the day swere But
what I did is like because I just got elder Ring. I just played
elder Ring during the QW times I think the first two nights the q is
in like the four hundreds, which took less than half an hour, and
it's been less than one hundred ever since, so they did something right.
Yeah. Yeah, you know it's good when you log in you see your
character because that means much for C I see, Yes, that's true.
Yes, I suggests are good on this ajke you. I can't really look
at the thread, so you're gonna excuse me read that for me if you
don't mind. Oh, let me find it is on podcast thread. I
can link of the you if we want. Man, I'm out of my
Mexicano loggers and now I had to drink eight power up porter and doesn't really
feel like a Porter day. But I posted it on this chat on the
post. Oh thank you, Okay, I get back to that then.
Uh yeah, I've been playing that C C C between the QO times.
Oh yeah yeah and the First Ascendant. There's too many games, too many
good games. This is really Oh my god, I I well, I
was. I mean the second I saw this, I didn't even saw any
gameplay, like when they announcement like like three years ago. Yeah, all
right, let's get to it's gonna be okay, all right, let's do
it. All right, all right, I'm going to mine post that's real
quick. We're gonna not see its face remement, don't don't panic. Party
I'll be right back. No panic, I'm gonna have to go party too.
Not gonnah the beer. Yeah, that's good. He's learned his lesson
ummount rush for expansions before I that was another rhythm in my heart. I
remember Jeff always like posts the link to the podcast while he does. That's
which is smart. I remember to do that. Yes, you're gonna yell
at us, do it live, preferably give us money and tell us that
we're wrong. Yes, exactly, that's right. Fucking foresakeing. It's really
good. Holy Shia, you didn't even thought about that. I'm surprised no
one else brought up Destiny for destiny Finally, ship is pretty good. Turkie
that has been tweeted. I literally pop, I pop off. When I
saw it looks meat on the thing. I was like, shit, it
looks me. It's like I'm a fan or whatever, but like I haven't
seen him. He was like the face of that game for so many years,
and then like he went like dark me because I still think him as
the guy from One Up Yere. I watched some clips, went up from
them to time. Okay, I'll be right back to the bathroom, all
right, So entertaining z Z. That's yeah, that's a good ass fucking
video game. Holy ship Man game. Yes, knew me you game.
It is dripping with style at least down Zendless Zone zero zero. It's like
what if Devil May Cry had these stylings of jet set radio meets Platoon.
Oh yeah, it's just a very yes platoon that's the Yeah, definitely going
for that, like Japanese urban sort of download the launcher. I will check
it out. There you go again. Hilariously large to download on. It's
one hundred gigs and it takes whatever to like we're going to verify these spots
for a thousand times. Yeah, I have one hundred gigs right now.
It's just the version. It's just a yeah. It like internally downloads a
ZIP folder and on checks that out if it is correctly on zip. So
it's like three downloads in one. I download it on my phone. It's
only like fifteen Yeah, I am that's good. Yeah, yep, what
should I delete? Okay? I'm not playing battle Front two, although that's
not on the drive, but Matters isn't. That's Eternal though. Wait,
that's that's on my all beut Front two. No, it's it's okay,
it's on my uh my kind of cold storage drive. I got to get
to I am not playing Forts Motorsport anymore. That motor Sport. I can't
believe that the click oh yeah, here here's some blows content. I got
that pack with like the Delareum and stuff. It's dumb, but it's really
fun. And that's the point. That's why Horizon's so great. I give
a ship the hot It's great because I actually use bangs. So I will,
like every like couple of months, get just ten dollars in Xbox credit.
So I just got that. Yeah. People talk about that all the
time at the discord where they just have like their their like Microsoft rewards,
Uh did you put like flow or whatever, where just they worked into a
daily ship. So yeah, they just get like free game pass every few
months or something. That's kind of neat. I believe anything called Mike.
Just listen to the rhythm of my mic. Alrighty, how are you guys
doing? I love I don't forget Hey, Mike, while we're on the
air, I thought I would bring this up. You see Outrun two thousand
and six tweaks, this new mood, what people fixed the like mediocre PC
port and now it's apparently like the best version of the game. Oh that's
cool. I get to check that out. Then, Okay, that's fine,
Okay, okay, okay, okay, all right, all right,
well let's bring this back in. Okay, all right,