What is krak alac in fellow thermonuclear a efforts. I am Dana Valley coming
at you once more with my certified fantabulous co host, mister Grant Hughes,
who was kind enough to jump on for a stat padding only podcast because we
were interrupted in what would have probably been like a two hour podcast at that
point. Plus my internet just crapped out, like I'm hooked up to Ethernet
when we podcast, it just went out. I was not a happy camper.
It was late in my time. Grant was nice enough to understand and
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description as well. Grant, how the heck are you doing? I don't
worry about me. How's your internet doing? We're we're you know, I'm
actually happy you asked to record earlier, like you texted me while I was
in the middle of a meet and greet with my dogs, which, yeah,
can we start there? You're gonna have to elaborate, thinks, So
did you meet some nice dogs today? So we've given up on the third
dog search for a little bit, just because my wife's about to get super
busy at work and I'm you know, terminally busy. I guess, uh,
this is where I'm in a wedding. It's my brother in law is
getting married and neither of us are going to be here, so we need
someone to come and let the dogs out while we're gone that day. They
are not good with strangers or other dogs. We got them in the middle
of the pandemic, like they got trapped, and we paid for a flight
like the Nanny flights. They couldn't fly because flights got shut down. Then
they got trapped in Georgia. It was at the height. It was like
right when everything was shut down because of the pandemic. And then for the
first like year year and a half in their lives, we tried to socialize
them as best as possible, but we just weren't seeing people enough. So
we've brought them to behaviorists. They are on medication. I love them to
death, and you know I love Anyone who listens to this podcast knows I
love my dogs to death. They suck. We had this. She was
very nice. She works at the groomers that they go to, and so
they've seen her before. She groomed them, and she always says that they're
fine. They just went One of my dogs Doore, just like went off
and wouldn't leave her alone. So we're just worried how they're going to react
when she tries to come and alone. But my wife tends to be more
in tune with their and more in tune and care more about their emotions than
I do. I think I'm just like, no displace them from their comfort
zone and like, let's as long as she's not intimidated by these little these
dogs. Yeah, let's stress has these dogs and they just she just has
to open the door and let them out. And if we told her,
if she doesn't feel comfortable coming in, don't come in, and well they'll
figure it out. So it was it's always stressful because they suck. I
love them, and they are very good dogs with the people that are in
their inner circle. But meeting new people is such a project. It's not
even funny with them. That sounds like a real world problem. And I
feel for you, but I have to say, excuse me. I am
disappointed because when you said you're at a meet and greet with your dogs or
something like to that effect you texted it, I was envisioning you, just
like, you know, being introduced to various dogs and like asking them how
they were doing to see if you guys clicked or not. But that would
you know, it seems like more of a fun thing to be doing.
But I guess what you're doing is important to Yeah, I texted you,
by the way to start recording earlier because I also got a dog over this
past weekend and am great training it at night, and I'm not sleeping,
so we is not gonna make it up for another late night for me,
which is like eight pm record session. So we're knocking this out in the
mid afternoon, which I'm ecstatic about to circle all the way back. That's
how I'm doing, Dan, I'm ecstatic about recording right now. Shout out
in orbit. Though. Yeah, he looks I've seen you showed him to
me. He's just pictures and you brought him on screen off air. See
all the listeners on YouTube miss out on that. He is adorbs. So
I'm sorry you're not sleeping, but he looks one thousand percent worth it.
He's worth it, he's worth it. I'll bring him on at some point.
I think he's actually sleeping right now, but he's higher from keeping you
up the right. Yes, it's got to get our schedule synced up at
some point, which will happen. But we're not here to talk about dogs,
even though we've knocked out five minutes doing it. What are we gonna
do today, Dan, We've got it's just gonna be a I mean,
the segment is always long enough to be its own pod. Someone I think
actually mentioned the discord that it's like getting a bonus podcast. Well, this
week it's an actual podcast. It's the third episode of the week, so
I won't apologize, but normally it wouldn't be its own episode. And we
just have people sent in, a bunch of guests of players and so in
addition to Rubik's gallon, So like this is I feel like this is gonna
be fun. I mean, talking about evergreen content the middle of the season
is hard to find. We got our listeners just pumping it out for us.
Right, that's the dream, Right, It's like having passive income.
It's you just have passive content generation. Uh. It's also like kind of
like a weird, messed up internship where nobody gets paid, but we sh
probably should not frame it that way. Also, I love not having to
prepare other than having to come up with things for you to guess. But
I like the spontaneity of it. So more stat padding. I will say,
I spend too much time. We'll call it like passive thinking or it's
not subconscious thinking, but I'll be at the gym or working on something else,
and like my brain will go towards like I need to come up with
some good stat padding ideas and what this I'll be in the middle of a
set at the gym and like trying to think of what would be a good
concept to ask Grant during stat padding. How many clues would it take him
to guess Anthony Simons. Let's let's go. Uh yeah, so I'm excited.
What do you want to start with? Want to do our listeners guess
us first? Sure? Sure, let's start with I have So this is
from she Can where session. I apologize for mis announcing it on Discord.
Here's a guess a player. So clue number one. You wouldn't know it,
but I have led the playoffs in rebounds per game. I don't think
you're going to get it off that one. If you do, I'm going
to be forever impressed to your superstar not getting it there. Clue number two.
After playing a critical role in the best defense in the league, I
more than double my career total all defense defensive votes up to that point for
that season by receiving three votes. Okay, I got no time frame.
The NBA has been around for a long time. It's an active player.
Oh okay, all right. After starting every game in my sophomore season,
I have been benched for a combined six time rebound six total rebounding champs.
Wait say that again? Yeah, this one is after starting every game my
sophomore season, I have been benched for a six time rebounding champ. I
think oh lost his job? Got it? Okay, started every game as
a sophomore, got benched for someone who just gets all the rebounds. Okay,
and he's active. I'm not getting there yet. I think you'll.
I think you will get there. Number four, I avenged Steven Adams for
the punishment he took to his family jewels. Oh, oh damn it.
I hate this. There's one more clue. I'm sleep deprived. This is
unfair. This one. You're gonna You're gonna know it after this one,
okay. Number five, fifth and final clue. After getting a wildly panned
contract, I became the fourth All star of my draft draft class. I
gotta tell you, Dan, I'm not sleeping enough. This is it's less
obvious, I guess than I thought. But you're gonna kick yourself. Just
think of this podcast us wildly panned contract. Oh is it Jared Allen?
It is it is Jared Allen. That's unfair. That dirty pool. Whoever
came up with that. That's embarrassing. I swear to God, if we
get a Frank Milachino one, I'm gonna get it. Or actually there's a
regular key one, I don't get it. That's shame. Shame. Yeah,
well I don't think we've got one of those yet. Do you have
another one? Because I have one. Listeners submitted one for you. I
yes, so let me let's have this. One's from I think Discord member
b be Rich Underscore at X I believe has a personal relationship. Yes,
I do know this person, so this is uh. I don't feel confident
right now after not getting Jared Allen. So you're catching me at a weak
moment. But I'm gonna persevere, always full of excuses, just like James
Harden. Grant my god. All right, include number one. I was
the number five overall pick by the Charlotte Hornets in nineteen ninety after playing four
years at the University of Illinois. Okay, that's that's not good enough for
you. That's it. Just number five for Charlotte Illinois. I'm totally thrown
by. I can't think of an Illinois player. All right, number five
in nineteen ninety, Go ahead, clue number two. I played for fifteen
seasons across eight teams, twelve of which were spread across the Hornets, the
Nets, and the Sonics. God, I miss what a badass team name?
Bring back the Sonics already? Yeah, Hornets, Nets and Sonics.
Nineteen ninety Illinois, I got nothing really Okay, this if you don't so
they said, if you didn't get it by the end, they would be
shocked. I said, if you didn't get it after this clue, that
you deserve to be ridiculed. So this is pretty The clue in question is
upcoming right now. Yeah, this is the one that I think you should
that you should get it on. My best season was nineteen ninety six to
ninety seven with the Nets, where I averaged twenty one point eight points,
six point one rebounds, four assists, one point nine steals. I was
not not an All Star in this season or any other. Oh Gohly Illinois.
Number five ninety six ninety seven was his best year. It averaged like
twenty six twenty six and something. He averaged twenty one point eight point six
rebounds, four assists, one point nine steals. This is on the Nets
in ninety six ninety seven. Rack I don't. Now I'm trying to think
of I know, I know who gave this clue, and now I'm just
trying to think of, like, who would he try to embarrass me by
making me guess or that I should know on the fourth clue. Sure,
I was All Rookie First Team in ninety ninety one and competed in the Dunk
Contest, but unfortunately didn't advance past the first round and watched Dee Brown win
it with the worst winning dunk ever. That was the worst that then I
remember the dunk that is accurate, the shield, the shield of the eyes
thing where he could totally see. Uh, Hornets, give me the three
teams again? Sorry, no, this is great. So Hornets, Nets,
and Sonics accounted for twelve of his fifteen seasons. Why can't I think
of Charlotte picking fifth in nineteen ninety and he wasn't any good really until the
Nets in ninety six ninety seven. God, I got a sleep more.
I can't even, I don't even, I don't have anything. Do you
have any clues you want to throw in? You? Would you get there?
There's two more? Well, there's three more. Yeah, I'm gonna
need them all keep them coming. Well, there's actually four more? Can
I get like ten more? Yeah? So I was all, oh,
no, I gave you this one. So considered to be a tenacious defender.
I led the NBA in steals in nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety nine with
two point seven per game. That's a lockout season. That's impress embarrassed right
now, that one. I didn't think that one. I never would have
gotten. So this guy's also getting a million steals in addition to twenty points
and six boards. And okay, keep it going. After retiring, this
is clue number six. After retiring, I became a professional boxer at age
thirty seven. Oh is this just Kendall Gill? Is it just Kendall Gill?
Get there? This been my first guess the final course. Guess what
the final clue is? Yeah, go ahead. In fantasy basketball, qualified
as both a garden a forward. No, No, it was thanks Bill
that one. If you give me it was. Whether I was a guard
or forward was a common topic of debate between Grant's roommates at Santa Clara.
Had you led with that, I would have got them right away. All
right, Wow, poor showing by me. Good clues. This is all
my fault. Okay, he speaking of my dog's being assholes. Do you
hear them in the background, No, I was just talking through it.
I didn't. I couldn't hear them over the sound of my crushing failure.
Uh, don't worry. I'm ready to embarrass myself. This one is.
This one is difficult, So I might pepper in like a couple of what
I hope are helpful clues. So this is from Mike Herrenchian. Again,
this is interesting. You gave me a Charlotte Hornets guy. First clue.
I was a lottery pick of the Charlotte Bobcats. Yeah, well, but
this is the Bobcats, so it narrows the era that it could have been
like pretty tightly. Right. I'm a former top twenty recruit in the country.
How are you on high school basketball recruit ranking? I attended a blue
blood ACC school. I was never much of a scorer in the NBA,
but I regularly would explode for huge offensive games against the Toronto Raptors for some
reason. It's not gonna help you, No, it's not. I was
gonna guess. I don't even think he played for the Hornets. The name
of Courtney Lee. No, that's a good guess. This is the Bobcats
though. By the way, remember I was traded for Nick Patoom. I
fucking know this one. He was he's he was a Blazer ohen they got
him? Oh Noah Bonley, No, this is a the bobcast. Wow,
that was dumb. He was like, this person's older than that than
Vondley. I think, yeah, yeah, he is. Okay. Uh.
I was a member of the Sixers when the process started not being terrible.
And this is kind of tricky because it's towards the end of this guy's
career, which I think is like twenty sixteen, seventeen. I'll give it.
So let's see a couple of things I would throw in. Uh,
this guy was super athletic. Daniels. No, that's a great guest.
I just want to have his name. I'm missing His father with the same
name also played in the NBA. That's my clue. Trying to help you.
Uh, last one. If you haven't got it, you may not
get it. I officially retired two years after my last game due to injuries.
So this was someone that like was pretty durable and then got got hurt
and then trying to come back and come back and just like it just didn't
happen. So he didn't retire until two years after his last game because he
kept trying to make it back. I got nothing. Okay, this is
Gerald Henderson. Oh, Okay, were like if those needed to be a
Batum trade package? Got because like I should remember the Batum trade package.
Yeah, but like this was kind of it's kind of a perfect one because
it's right, like it's I guess like most of the relevant information is like
slightly over ten years old in terms of like his college career and and uh
when he entered the league. But yeah, I don't know if I would
have got that one either. That those are That's a tough one. That's
that's the kind of difficulty we need on this podcast. I have one from
Mike as well for you. Okay, I attended Murray State University. Joh
Morant it is it is not him. Did he go to Murray State?
I hope he did. Ja Morant went to Murray State, didn't he?
I think? So. I'm terrible at college. I was a second round
pick. I played eleven years in the NBA. Got nothing. I never
played on the same team for more than three seasons. Hmm, this one,
this one's wild. Despite being six' eight, I have zero career
dunks. Whoa, well, that's Murray State eleven years. No dunks'd be
a that'd be a great name. Oh there is a no Dunks podcast.
Sorry. I have two sons that play in the NHL. Oh, whoa,
oh we have are we? Are we dealing with the Canadian here?
I am? Oh? Uh? Is this Steve Novak? It is not.
I'm a current assistant coach in the NBA. Okay, and this is
the last clue. I won my first career NBA championship last season with the
Nuggets. Oh, as an assistant coach. Not, you're no problem.
Uh, I can add one of my own that's not that's not related to
their career. Okay, but my clue would be Spinach. Oh, Popy
Jones, Yeah, there you go. He never dunked. I looked after
Mike sent it to me, actually looked it up because I was like,
there's no fucking way. Uh. And per Basketball Reference, zero dunks.
Unbelievable. Okay, man, we're really cranking up the difficulty. We're I
mean, I don't know what series of clues I would have needed like spinach
was clearly the best clue, but that's not really within the spirit of the
game. If that would have would you've gotten it if that was just the
first clue? Yeah, I think so I have more. I have a
couple more from uh Rubik scal why not? So let's start. This is
a trivia one who has more? Oh my god? Okay, who has
more regular season threes? Players named Curry not including Wardell Steph Curry Wardell Stephan
Curry aka Steph Curry. Players named Miller not including reginald Wayne Miller aka Reggie
Miller, or see players named Allen, not including Walter Ray Allen aka Ray
Allen. Okay, For the purpose of this question some background, we are
ignoring ABA threes. We are counting players with Miller, Curry, and Allen
as their first name as well as last name. If there were a player
named Curry Miller, his threes would count to the Curry total as well as
the Miller. Oh my god, I feel like I need one of those
like red yarn charts to solve this right now on a corkboard. This is
possible. You might as well just take a stab of the I got a
one in three chance, right, So yeah, it really kind of so
the Curry one is tempting. I'm just gonna talk you through because this is
you know, this certainly isn't meant to be a quick hitting segment, uh
explained as you're working through it. It should be like the Charlie Day memes
exactly, or yeah, beautiful mind where like stuff appears. Cut this together
and post and just and put like CGI math equations over my face as I
do this. So I get del Curry and Seth Curry, and also there's
like Michael Curry and probably some others for the Curries. The Miller's is interesting
because that's such a common name. But I'm struggling to think of a bunch
of NBA Millers like Oliver Miller. Sure sure wasn't hitting threes. Alan's interesting
because you get Grayson, he's had some threes, and he's played his whole
career in the three point era. You get who like Tony Allen did not
hit a lot of threes. I'm kind of Allan is tempting, but I
think I, hmmm, if it was Curry, you wouldn't put Curry the
Curry's on here because that's too love this that you're just talking yourself through this
right now. Lit circles, total circles. It's a let's see, I'm
gonna just say, I'm gonna say Allen for no good reason at all coming
in in third place built some suspense. The Curries, okay, one hundred
and fifty made threes, led by dell At twelve forty five and Seth eight
twenty four. Okay, coming in in second place. The Millers, hey,
yeah, three hundred and thirty five threes, led by Mike Miller's fifteen
ninety and Darius Miller's three forty four. But the winner is Grant Hughes is
really the winner. The Allens have two thousand, four hundred and sixty seven
made threes, led by Alan Iverson has over one thousand sixty. Do you
want to know who's second among Allen's, Well, I totally forgot the first
name part of it. So that's have been the clue because Curry and Miller
are not first names. That Allen was the clear correct choice. No,
Who's number two? Alan crab At six seventeen and then Grayson Allen leads last
name Allen's with five hundred and one. Okay, Okay, Wow, so
I blew it on rule comprehension but still got there through luck mostly. Okay,
I think there's let me see, I think I got a couple.
I have another one from Ruby Scal who has they she's got receipts. Okay.
He brought up something that I wrote aside from the Frank Neil Akina thing
or no, it wasn't. The whatever one you did last time was about
an article I wrote. Who was it? It was Brandon Jennings Jennings Yeah.
And then someone asked in the mail bag about my like the origin of
my love for Frankielakina, and Ruby Scal had something I wrote about Frank Neilakina
at the about NBA players that we should stand for who you wouldn't normally stand
for. I don't remember writing that thing. Well, that all those old
br articles are sometimes really hard to find, like they get they get scrubbed
from the internet. If you, I mean, we both go are going
back ten plus years. So there's all kinds of boy, we don't want
to open this this pane searching old content from hopefully there's nothing. There was
something I wrote that was pretty insensitive once. Oh, yeah, Royce right
White, that's someone DM me about. And I was like, I could
not believe if this isn't the interest of full disclosure. I asked Bleach Report
to take it down because I thought I couldn't believe it was published. And
I said, wow, I was. I was probably not even twenty yet
where I was in my like I was in college still, and I just
wanted to stand out. It was embarrassing and probably read it. No guess
what, I have a guess who and it's Royce White. No, no
one should be confronted with, uh what their job performance of a long time
ago. That's a that's a hard rule. Uh, let's do well,
we have a few more from Rubik Scale. Maybe we should save them.
Well, there's two more, so let's just use them. Okay, are
you ready? These are Guessa players. Okay. Clue number one, I've
led the league in total points scored at the end of a regular season,
yet I don't have a scoring title. Hmm is it Tatum? No,
good guess though? Number Clue number two, I have led the league in
total assists for two straight seasons that I don't have an assist title. Trey
Yes, Ice Tray Wow, two of eight clues, rub got eight for
you. That's one of them. I always cite that one off. He's
led the league in total assists a couple of times, so that was that
was a something. If that was put on a t for me on purpose,
Thank you, Rubik Scale. I need I need the confidence. I
won't go through the other six clues, but just because there's so many of
them, this one was interesting. This would have been clue number four.
Uh well, actually clue number three was fun too. I'm one of two
players that have led the league in total points as well as total assists at
the end of a season. The other is Tiny Archibald oh so him and
Ice Tray. I'm among the top ten players with the most forty point ten
assist games. Below me are Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Nicole Jokich,
and Isaiah Thomas Man what a crazy Airic Detroit. Isaiah Thomas Yeah and yeah,
that was a good good job by you. Yeah, you would have
gotten it if you didn't get it by because I don't know if three or
four would have helped you. You've gotten it by like clue six. Despite
all these achievements, the only NBA awards I've received are all rookie and all
NBA Third Team. I think you would have known it on that. Maybe
I don't know this got me okay, Final one. Clue number one,
I have played fewer than two hundred regular season games and started fewer than fifty
of them. I don't know why you would know it already. If you
do, I'm calling Shanani. I definitely don't. Clue number two. I've
played forty two plus minutes only three times in my career. On all three
occasions, my team won the game. Unfortunately, none of my coaches caught
on to this shore fire winning strategy of playing me forty two plus minutes every
game. Okay, based on how little I played Clue number three, you
may think I'm a loser, but I actually I have three championship rings won
in my first three years in the league. Three rings, Okay, keep
going. My first two rings Clue number four were with Team X and my
third ring was one against Team X in the finals. This is the one
grant, this is the one I'm supposed to get it on, in my
opinion. So your first two were with Team X, and then the third
came as a member of the team that beat Team X in the finals.
Yes, so tam X is the same team and if you haven't caught on,
yeah, is the same team every time. Uh oh, this is
uh this is Patrick McCaw. There you go. That. Did I give
it away by saying t X is this? Well? I ye. At
first I was kind of thinking, well, it's god of who was on
the Cavs and the Warriors, and it's like, well, Richard Jefferson was,
but he definitely did not win titles in his first three years. Uh
okay, great, Yeah, that that Team X I kind of needed,
I think because I was not I was lost in time there. I didn't
know where we were jumping to Clue eight. The career summary is actually really
funny from Ruby scal two hundred and thirty one NBA games played regular season plus
playoffs over five years, three rings with two teams out of the league.
Yeah, I speaking of not dredging up old thoughts. I'm I don't know
this for sure, but I'm willing to bet I said some outlandishly positive things
about Patrick McCaw. At some point, would you would you like some spectacular
news, rubek Scale said, If you didn't get it, by clue number
three, your warrior, your dub nation membership was going to be revoked.
You got about clue number three? I get to stay. No, I
mean close. It was a tight one there. Okay, I let's see
you got any more? Can I give you some guess I'm done with guests
of players unless you have any that people sent you. No, I that's
it for guessa players. Impressed that someone reached you on social media? That
might dm uh message me on discord and you saw it? Did he do
it in twenty twenty two in my bi weekly check of Discord sometimes just weekly?
Uh? There it was so uh yeah that I I will check it
sometimes. So uh you can do that? I mean, should I just
get my phone number out because like, no, don't do that. I
can nasty ass YouTube comments that don't do it? Yeah? Okay, so
let's see what did I want to get to here? First? I got
just like a potpourri here of some all types of different questions. Okay,
this is a this is the Cam Thomas question, because we just need to
talk about him. He's averaging over twenty eight points and under three assists.
That's rare. Dan, you should be aware of that. You're trying to
get me to guess Cam Thomas, and I was he just brain fart here
And now I see where this is always always a possibility, but no,
in this case, no, Uh, who's the last guard to average over
twenty five points and under three assists? I will give you options because that's
a hard question. Uh, Michael Jordan, Paul Pierce, Michael Red,
or DeMar Derozen over twenty five points under three assists. This does not happen
often. I feel like you might be trying to trick me. But I'm
gonna say, Michael Red, you are correct. I was trying to trick
you, and you're also correct. That is Michael Red. Those other guys
were like twenty five and just over three assists. Because Damar was the one
that was most tempting for you because he wasn't always this high volume, really
good pass right, That's why, Oh, he's trying to get me.
I think it's raptors. I don't have it in front of me anymore.
I just put it on a doc. But I think it's raptors. Derozen
that was like twenty eight and like three point four or like three point one
or something. Okay, let's see, Dan, ten players have at least
ten twenty five plus point per game seasons in their careers. So ten guys
have have averaged over twenty five a game in ten different seasons, at least
ten different seasons. Can you name five of them in at least ten different
seasons? Okay, Wilt, Nope? What I think? Kareem, Kareem,
Yeah, it's possible. Wilt should be on here and I fucked it
up, but Kareem correct. But yeah, Lebron, Lebron has twenty.
He's the leader. That's a oh. Man, Lebron's longevity really is absurd.
For all the jokes that people and like the Lakers are, you know,
being public about the way that they're battling, you know, calls yeah
with the rest, but man, Lebron's longevity is just wild crazy. It's
ten times. Has Kevin Durant don it ten times? Fifteen times? He's
number two? Kobe, Kobe's number three at twelve. You asked me how
many of I named, You've got four. You only need one more.
But I already had a wrong guess, which is disappointing. I was trying
to think perfect about it. You shouldn't overthink this. I'm calling to though.
That's the problem. But here's what I know. It's not Luca.
He hasn't been in the league long enough. No of that for I just
need to think, is it. I don't want to I know this person
will be on it, but I don't want to say their names. I
don't like them, so I'm not going to say that one. Now we're
getting to the point where it's like, no, I can't like. I
just need to say, is it James Harden, No, Russ No,
none of this. This player is not None of these players are active.
Besides them, you've already named I said Kareem, right, you did.
You got Kareem Lebron Durant, and Kobe Shaq. Shaq is one. Yeah,
you didn't say Michael Jordan. I'm trying to think. So it's it's
a it's a usual suspect, so you got uh, let's see. So
the other ones are Jerry West, Alan Iverson. Iverson quietly shows up on
a lot of these. I feel like he went from being super overrated like
during his career to maybe now underrated after it, if that makes any sense,
Because he keeps showing up on all these all these lists we do,
and then Dominique Wilkins, I think is the only one I didn't mention stupid
as wilt with only eight seasons of it upset. I never would have got
Dominique Wilkins not getting Jordan's egregious. It's it's interesting how being on the spot
with some of these, just like because that's one that we should both just
I'm telling you, yeah, no, no, it's always if you're on
the question asking end of it, it's like, what is wrong with this
guy? Why can't it's Kendall Gill obviously just say Kendall Gill. But it
just it does it's different. It's it's just really goes to show that we're
not pressure performers. Okay, I have some over unders for you, just
for fun, I don't know, just so we'll never look at these again.
But are they more Victor one? But Yama, No, I used
up all of those all right? Cam Thomas second appearance on stat padding over
under twenty five and a half points per game this season. What will we
finish with, Oh, don't make me do this. I'm gonna say under.
Yeah, I think you gotta say under. That's a lot even though
that guy is a bucket, even with you already have Jacques Vaughan had talked
about how everyone's in minutes, they're gonna be kept in jack all year.
That's you know, all right, Chris Paul Over under thirty point five five
percent three point shooting. Oh, Over, he'll be fine. He's like
one for twenty five to start. But I think, yeah, yeah,
but you know they have they've won the minutes without Steph Curry that he's played.
I haven't heard that and definitely haven't written that, like fourteen times in
the last couple weeks. Uh, speaking of over under four hundred and two
made three pointers for Steph Curry. That is the record. By the way,
would you like to know the pace he's on? Give me give me
the pace? How many games? Can you also give me how many games
it would take him to get there? What I can tell you is that
if he plays seventy games at his current pace of makes seventy games, he'll
get to four to eleven. I will say he just doesn't. Typically there's
always something with him where it's, oh, he ends up missing fifteen games
or whatever it is. I'm just gonna say over because there's I don't want
it to press you here, but doesn't it kind of feel like there's a
sense of finality in Golden State. Bob Myers has already left, traded,
Jordan Poole, Chris Paul is on the team, Klay Thompson's entering free agency
as of right now. After this this season, it's just like this might
be the year that they just just and he's leading the I mean, when
you're talking about the top MVP candidates right now, we got people were mad
at me because I left Jokic. I meant to say the most complete score
when I was talking about Jason Tatum and I kept saying most complete offensive player.
I didn't name Jokic. He is, But between Jokic and Curry are
probably the top two. It's way too early because you can name what about
this guy year? Yeah sure, but uh like Curry is in the very
early like like he was last year, where I think a lot of people
had him as their MVP even before Jokic and Giannis took over that NMB took
over that fight. Yeah. No, I think I think he's going for
it, like I think he's he's consciously trying to shoot more threes this year,
I think, and he's getting better looks just because yeah, he's it's
looked, it's looking pretty good. But that's like, that's a stupid number.
Over four hundred. I'm gonna take it. I'm taking the over.
I want to go over to because I'm on that. What would be the
actual line on over four I'm you bet on everything, okay? Last one
of the over runners uh over under eleven point five rebounds per game for DeAndre
Ayden, who currently sits at thirteen point three. I'm gonna take the over.
I'm gonna tell you why. Oh, that is the only way that
he is gonna score points hitting the offensive. Last, he doesn't have people
who can get on the ball. He's actually running like he's in the post.
Like he's getting fewer post ups as a frequency of his possessions than he
was last year. And so just when and also inherently he's not only dependent
on people getting him the ball, they kind of need to set him up
a lot for finishing. He just doesn't have I know, Malcolm Brogden's there,
but Anthony Simon's is injured, Scoot Henderson's banged up and is a rookie
right now, Shandon Sharp is still kind of figuring things out as a as
a passer. If he wants to get points, he's gonna need to crash
the offensive glass, so forget about the defensive stuff like, he's gonna need
to be on the offensive glass. So I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the
over. I like it. That's a lot more like logical think through than
we normally get for these, and I'm including myself in that. Let's see.
Okay, we're getting into the we haven't gotten to the one I teased
you with that I hope will ruin your brain and probably won't be any good,
but I'm gonna build up to that. So let's see. Dan,
you're down one point. Do you choose, and somebody, if this is
another one of those the shot must be made or the best the points must
be scored, do you choose Draymond Green shooting a three with an actual backpack
on or Ben Simmons at the free throw line for two shots? Okay,
so wait, it's not complicated. Run it back, run it back.
Your team is down one point, and for some reason, you have both
Draymond Green and Ben Simmons on the squad. Draymond Green is wearing an actual
backpack. Down one, Do you want Draymond shooting a three with the backpack
on? Or do you want Ben Simmons at the line for two free throws?
Down one? Down one? I want Ben Simmons at the line for
two free throws, so bold. This is why it's a good question,
because there's not a great answer. No, But I'm just on having the
two opportunities. So throw the actual percentages out of what he's shooting at the
foul line versus Draymond getting a wide open whatever, Draymond shooting on wide open
threes, which is probably still less than Ben Simmons's free throw percentage. Well,
and he's got the backpack on. Who knows how that's gonna affect him.
It might help. It's hard to say that was a good one.
Okay, I got another. You say that like they usually aren'tdan a little
bit offended. Well, I mean the offbeat ones sometimes are like when we
did the the one I gave to you, the Chris paul Er Ben Simmons
one was actually our most watched video of all time. Well, that's what
I'm going for, because I feel like there's some SEO and Draymond backpack and
Ben Simmons free throw so well, So don't you don't need to worry about
the SEO too much because I literally I just put I'll put Dre or Ben
Simmons is the title, and that's what I throw shorts. The shorts algorithm
takes care of the red. Okay, all right, how about this one?
Which team is better? The one with Lebron James and play of Steph
Curry on the Dynastic Warriors or the one with Steph Curry in place of Lebron
James on the Heatles. Oh on the Heatles. It's Lebron with the Dynastic
Warriors because think about what Wade kind of looked like towards the end of that
Heatles run and how banged up he could get. And now you're adding a
less durable Steph Curry than Lebron was. So I think it's Lebron with the
Dynastic Warriors. Yeah. I originally was gonna say Steph and Clay or Steph
and Draymond because it seemed unfair to just do a one for one with Lebron
and Steph. So Stephan Draymond, this would be interesting because then you bond
Bosh, Wade and Steph. That's what I'm saying like that, I mean,
obviously either of these teams is ridiculously good, but that's really interesting.
But what is interesting, and this might be a vote in favor of the
original question, I will include none of this context. If I cut up
this clip because they don't play that way? Then can Lebron and Draymond play
together? That? I guess the Dynastic Warriors? Are we including the one?
Isn't the one season Draymond shot well from three? Is that they didn't
win that year? Right? Wasn't that the seventy three win season? Right?
That was fifteen sixteen? Like the Yeah, that's still part of the
Dynastic lore though. It's just so if you're playing Lebron who's not a non
shooter, but he's not Steph Curry, and then knowing the Draymond Curry connection,
and then is is looney like you're big at that point? Are you
just all Draymond at the five? Because you have Lebron gets really it?
There might be a stronger case for the Heatals with Curry than I gave.
It sort of very much depends on which like age version you're getting of these
guys, because if it's Curry, you know, twenty fifteen, sixteen Curry
on the twenty eleven, twelve and twelve thirteen heat or whatever, that's very
different than taking I don't know, like well, I guess, I don't
know. It depends on who you're getting, Like well, you meant the
Draymond thing, like depends on what year of Draymonds you're getting. So it's
very nonspecific. But as a thought exercise, it is interesting to think about,
like what does Steph look like running an offense with Wade and Bosh,
you know, next to him? Because Bosh was kind of the prototype of
like, hey we're five out now, Like what's that? And if you
throw Steph Curry at the at the NBA of like twenty eleven, twenty twelve,
I just think and Chris Bosh as a center of shooting threes, I
think everyone just loses their shit and like doesn't basketball gets canceled because nobody knows
what to do with this. And it's also just like Wading Curry are so
much more of an organic fit Yeh than Lebron and Wade, right, So
I have a similar question, which is funny that involves Warriors. So I
figure to be right up your alley, let's do it. Which team wins
more games? Or which NBA team? And you don't you don't know the
rest of the context, But which NBA team would win more games one that
has twenty fIF teen twenty sixteen Klay Thompson as its best player or twenty fifteen
twenty sixteen Draymond Green as its best player hmmm, as its best player.
I think I think, in a round of a weird way, I think
the Draymond Green team wins more games because if Draymond is your best, like
it's not that hard for Draymond to be your best player, like from a
catch all stats and like overall impact perspective, and then also be surrounded by
a bunch of other very good like point scorers and this, that and the
other. But if Clay's your best player, he's essentially a dependent scorer.
I don't know what that team looks like. I think you know what I
mean. Like, I think if Clay is your best offensive player, you
need you still need a bunch of other stuff around him. You need shot
creators and all this suff Draymond would anchor your defense and could be a distributor,
and you just get guys who can score. So I like, I
like the Draymond version as a bigger winner. Probably is that even a good
question. I was wondering if Draymond was too In my head, I'm like,
Draymond feels independent of Steph and this Warriors system. Could It's just such
a everything he does defensively will translate. It might be so tough to build
that offense out though, if he had your best player overall. But I
was wondering if it was still too easy of a question. Well, it's
I think of like I always, you know, like I think I've made
the case before that Ben Wallace was the best player on those Pistons teams that
were in the conference finals, like every year for however many years in a
row it was. And I think Draymond's kind of like that, where,
yeah, you put a bunch of other good players around him and that team
is awesome. But if you have Clay and a bunch of other good players
and no great ones, I think your ceiling is probably lower. That's an
interesting one. Let's see, do you have another one ready to have this?
It'll be pretty expensive. So it's Hall of Fame themed. Would you
like to enter the Hall of Fame themed chamber? We'll call it. I
don't know why I just said that. I'm ready. I have an I
think there's I have fourteen of the yeas plus a and then there's a couple.
There's two questions, of which one doesn't belong all Hall of Fame theme.
Okay. Basketball Reference has a Hall of Fame probability meter. Which active
NBA player has the higher Hall of Fame probability? Jimmy Butler or Klay Thompson.
Oh, I wish I knew what if anything went into the Hall of
Fame probability calculator. I will say, Jimmy Butler, Oh, you're wrong,
it is is Klay Thompson. It is Klay tom Oh, no,
you're right. I'm sorry. Jimmy Butler seventy three percent, Klay Thompson seventy
point two percent. Oh, got so close. Okay, Damar Derozen or
Blake Griffin. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say that's such a good one.
I'll say DeRozan, who are wrong? And it's not even close?
Really rosens at forty four point four percent. Plake Griffin's fifty four point eight
percent. Oh well, Blake, really, I bet you Blake. I
wonder if it counts like MVP shares or something, because Blake, I think
had some top five's in there somewhere. Okay, Rudy Gobert or John Wall.
And I know I said active, but John Wall has yet to retire.
It better be Rudy Gobert. With all the defensive player of the years.
It is not Rudy Gobert. And it's not even close. Okay,
to Gobert twenty three percent, John Wall thirty two point four percent. This
is going to totally recalibrate how I think about this now. Okay, I'm
ready now, Donovan Mitchell or Jason Tatum. So now I got to rethink.
It has to be Jason Tatum. It has to be You're wrong,
Donald seven point seven percent, Tatum seven percent. Oh. I did note
that Mitchell last year became the fastest player to get to ten thousand points.
Maybe that's all this is based on. Paul George or Kyrie Irving. I
don't know Kyrie. No. Paul George ninety four point three percent, Kyrie
ninety three point five percent. Paul George has a ninety something percent. Well,
I mean not in actuality, but wow, okay uh Giannis attent to
Kumpo or Nicolea Jokic uh Yannis correct ninety five percent to ninety one point six
percent for Jokic. And look, it's a lot of this is cumulative stuff.
So just on his peak has been a little bit longer. But still
I'm trying to mix in where they're not even close versus some of them are
close, because we've had comments where people want us to have them be further
apart for some resin uh it makes it I guess it makes it better to
shame us right eat Draymond Green or Kawhi Leonard. I think, well,
well, if if cumulative stuff matters, I still gotta say Kawhi, it
is Kawhi seventy seven point seven percent to seventy six point eight percent. But
we are getting by the way, we are getting into the dregs. Now,
this is fun. The players are not bad. I want to make
that clear. Bam Adebayo or zach Lavine. Uh Bam out of Bayo no
zach Lavine point two eight percent chance bam out of Biyo's point two seven percent.
That seems low. Seem low. Bradley Beal or Devin Booker. Uh,
I'm gonna say Booker, No, it's Bradley Beal And technically it's not
even close because it's more than double Bookers. Booker has a one point one
percent chance. Bradley Beal is a two point three percent chance. Booker averaged
like twenty five a game every year for like seven in a row. I
didn't make the formula. I only cribit Jalen Brown or Andrew Wiggins. Oh
uh, I'll say Wiggins longer career. No, Jalen Brown point one one
percent, Andrew Wiggins point one percent. How many can I get wrong in
a row? Let's see Derek Rose or Karl Anthony Towns. Rose has an
MVP. If it's Karl Anthony Towns, We're never doing this again. Okay,
it's Karl Anthony Towns ten point eight percent to ten point five percent.
Okay, two more on this. Steven Adams Marcus Smart. Uh, I
will say Steven Adams correct point oh four percent to point oh three percent.
You know how I got that one by guessing the one I didn't think was
correct? Last one? Brandon Ingram or Christops porzingis obviously porzingis, yes,
point zero three percent, brandon Ingram point zero two. Now I get it.
This is a second instinct game. You go to go, never go
with your first. Well, let's see how you do with this one.
Which of these NBA players currently has less than a ninety five percent Hall of
Fame probability rating according to Basketball Reference Jannis at Tetakoupo, Anthony Davis, James
Harden, Damian Lillard or Russell Westbrook. I wish I remembered what the percentage
was you gave me for Jiannis. I'm gonna say Lillard, it's Jannis.
I was giving you a freebie and I blew it. So Jannis has the
lowest Hall of Fame possible probability to have all the names you just mentioned.
Yeah, Lillard being being ahead of Giannis is wild to me. It's hard.
It's hard to get my head around that one final Hall of Fame question.
And I know you did not like this segment. I could just tell
that's just hard. Which of these players does not have at least a one
percent chance of making the Hall of Fame according to a Basketball Reference. Andre
Drummond DeAndre Jordan Domontes, a Bonis, Pascal Siakam or Nikolo Vucevic. I'm
gonna say sab Bonus just based on career length. That would be incorrect.
He actually is the highest probability of the Pascal Siakam point sixty seven percent.
We have found the thing I'm worse at in the world. It's amazing.
That's I've yet to get a guess a player, right, So there you
go, you found your We both have our Achilles heel. Oh god,
Okay, let's see. I want to give you a couple of these here.
Some of these are just kind of open ended because I'm curious and people
seem to care about your origin story generally speaking, So Dan story, Yeah,
just as a basketball fan, uh what not personally of course? Uh
what rookie were you certain would be great early in their careers? Or like
when you saw them and then just wasn't at all? Like who were you
most? Who've you been most wrong about? You know? With a knee
jerk. This this guy's amazing reaction. So I was convinced that, oh,
as a does it have to be as a rookie or guess early on?
I'm not necessarily it's kJ McDaniels, and first of all, we all
know who it is, but well, no, I mean, like his
predated the NBA. Watching kJ McDaniels just like fill up the box score on
a permanent basis, I was convinced that he was going I don't know if
I ever said he was going to be an All Star, but I was
convinced that, like this guy was the second coming of like Andre Carolinko or
something. I would all over him. That's a great that's way better than
mine because mine is definitely Ben Simmons, because I remember where I was having
watched his like first couple of games, and I was telling everybody that would
listen, this guy is Grant Hill, but bigger and faster, like all
right, yeah, that's like I was sure, like, oh, I
mean, like the scale of how great I thought he was gonna be based
on like his first two weeks in the NBA was just like, could not
have been more off if you went something where I don't know if I ever
made an egregious comp for kJ mctange's if you went with that I compared before
he entered upon entering the NBA that justin Patton would be a bouncier. Christops
Porzingis. That's a good one. That's a good one. I also have
a similar one. Uh, this is more recent and it's it's even more
embarrassing. Uh. You know how on on League Pass, sometimes if you
flip the game on early, you can see players like doing their individual workouts
on the court before the game with I don't watch games, so okay,
you don't watch games, let me tell you sometimes that happens. And I
saw James Wiseman doing like one on ones with his like six foot two,
you know, fifty year old assistant coach. And I definitely invoked the name
David Robinson in describing like what he looked like as an athlete. That that'd
be a good other question, By the way, who has the most convincing
empty gym or empty run videos? I mean there's it's gotta be the production
quality just off the charts. Yeah right, yeah, oh man, justin
patent, that's a deep pull. Okay. The only ones I have left
are this the ones I've been teasing that will probably be terrible and you also
probably will hate. Uh. So if you have anything else before we do
those, I'm ready so I have I have two. I have actually three
batches of stuff, but I'm excited about the latter two batches, so we
can say that to the end this one. I have some tattoo questions for
you, which I'm sorry I can't say this with a straight face. Okay,
here we go, rebound d rebound, Here we go. Which NBA
player has just keep smiling tattooed on their torso, Paul George, Blake Griffin,
Lebron James or Damian Lillard just keep smiling. Well, if we're going
vault, well there's a lot of tattoo volume for all of them. I'm
gonna say, Dame, I don't know why it is Blake Griffin. It
did seem like kind of a I thought it would be like more of a
Lebron or Paul George tattooed. Dame feels like it wasn't serious enough. Yeah,
but Blake Blake one is like, I don't I can't think of a
prominent Blake Griffin tattoo. It's that one. I think that might be the
only one that he has on his torso. I've never seen Blake Griffin's torso,
so I guess I was unprepared for this question. Final tattoo. I
only had two tattoo questions. I don't know how these will play. Which
NBA play has multiple multiple Grant Space Jam inspired tattoos? Jordan Clarkson, Kyle
Kuzma, Kelly Ubery Junior or Jordan Poole. Are you shocked I didn't include
Lebron James as an option. I feel like I know this, but i
also feel like I'm so cold today that I'm not gonna get right. Multiple
Space Jam inspired tattoos. I think I want to say Kelly Ubray. No,
I thought I thought that was gonna get you. It is. Actually
Kyle Kuzma Okay has two, at least two Space Jam tattoos. What is
your favorite NBA tattoo? Do you have one? I don't know that I
do because I feel like the actually a Lonzo Balls is it? His arm
Sleever's leg sleeve is pretty wicked. He's got like a super detailed bunch of
like portraits right, Like there's a like a Martin Luther King one and yeah
so, and portraits are tough. I would never get one tattooed on me
just because they're so hard and it's it's gotta be his his like sleeve.
I'm looking at his arms right now, and I don't think it's on his
arms, so it's it's gotta be Oh no, it is his arm.
Yeah. I mean he's got Malcolm X on there, and he has Barack
Obama. Yeah that and and they look they look great. I think that
might be just in terms of the detail of it, that might be my
favorite one. Do you have one? Well, the one I always when
I see it, I'm like, that's fucking cool? Is is D'Angelo Russell's
Like, I forget which shoulder it's on, but it's it's the word now,
but it's written like a digital clock, and I just like that plays
the time is now. I get it. That's like there's a little couple
levels to it. That's a fun one. I also like Andrea Gudalas,
Like, initially, do you remember he had like the remember the and one
guy like the faceless basketball player like holding a basketball. He had that on
his shoulder and it was very like early two thousands, and then he got
the full like bird feathers sleeve down his arm to cover it up. And
that one looked really cool, like he had a big Wing. I was
a fan of that. I would like to say that and I know why
he has it. But Kyle Kuzma has the Ford logo tattooed on him.
I was gonna include that one, but I thought I thought you would know
about it. Also, I don't know you know who. I don't know
if you've seen it this season, and I haven't gotten a close up.
Like Isaiah Hartenstein has like a pretty nice arm sleeve going on right now,
and I always like JJ Reddick's arm sleeve looked really good too. I actually
noticed Hartenstein's sleeve the last next game I saw, and I was like,
man, that's like the level of detail. I don't know anything about tattoos,
but like, I just imagine that is a long time in the chair
and has to be done by only a select few people that are capable of
doing that. And Austin Rivers has a nice arm sleeve as well, and
it's like even forgetting the content on him, like I just appreciate the detail
and he has like I think it's basically kind of religious and the other one
it's not super detail, but I respect it. And he's not in the
NBA right now. But Mike Scott just having all those emojis tattooed on him,
right, what about you know what kind of like just for the novelty
of it is Birdman because he went like full color with so much stuff.
Nobody else really, I can't think of anybody else that has a bunch.
I guess Lamello has some like red ink somewhere, but everybody else just goes
with the standard. And Birdman was just like a paint facts has a tattoo
in color green eyes, red hat has that dungeons and dragons tatoo, Yeah,
that you could always just barely see like over the over the Luca has
one like that too, where you can see just like a little bit of
it. Uh from his jersey covers most of it. Who's is it?
Who's the one where it reads like a typo? Is it the tatum tattoo
on? Oh? Yeah, it's like God's Son or something. But it
was like apostrophe was missing or something like that God's will and there's no apostrophe
and it reads like so multiple gods will what I will say that one of
the pictures he posted of it when he first got it, he has a
nice v taper going on his back. So shout out to Jason Tatum them
for not skipping back. Day we have we have gone far afield. Okay,
are you ready for uh some word association. I don't even know how
I'm gonna I have to. I'm like, oh, yes, I'm not
gonna give you my My only advice is don't think at all. That is
what the purpose of this exercise is. Something way ahead of you. I
think even less than whatever you're thinking. Now, it's all it's too much.
So this is you know, that's all. It is. Just I
say something and you say the first thing that pops into your head. It
can be a sentence, it can be a memory, or it can just
be a word. There aren't really any rules. Okay, you're ready.
I got three sets of these, and there's the five of them in each
one. Are they basketball related? They're a basketball Yeah, they're all basketball.
Tell me about your deepest feared No, they're all basketball related. Marco
Bellinelli, big balls, dance, perfect start, verticality. Oh, Derek
Lively, whoa see? I would have said, Roy Hibbert, Okay,
now we're going four point play. Steph Curry j R. Smith Soup.
I was gonna say like untying people's shoelaces. Didn't you do that at the
breath? That was such a great moment. Do you remember? Uh,
we'll get back to this. Do you remember? We were both at BR
at the time. But it was when he like nobody knew how to use
social media and he accidentally sent like you trying to get the pipe to somebody?
And then he like his next post was like a picture of a bunch
of pipes, like the Mario pipe or no am I like, I can't
remember for imposing my own thoughts onto that. Okay, uh forgotten? Orlando
magic? Great great hill, good one. All right, I got some
more here. November nineteenth, two thousand and four. I don't. I
have no idea. What is my what is that? Is it? Let
me just try and let me try and think this one through. Yeah,
okay, did is that? Did the Knicks trade Patrick Ewing? Is that?
No? That was too Uh? It involves the pistons and pacers.
Oh malice at the Palace. Wow, that's kind of a shitty one,
because there's only one real answer there. I will say, though, did
you watch that documentary? I can't and I don't think so. I was
watching the game in real time when it happened, though, I still have
like a vivid memory of that back when you watched games. That's that's yeah,
back when I watched games. I haven't done that for fifteen I think
the combination one. I was just so young, and that's not an excuse,
but just the way it was covered and the information was disseminated, the
racist not even undertones, like the overtones of that coverage was disgusting. Yeah,
it was rough. That was a crazy So the personal aside, uh,
that same night Santa cla And so I had I had already graduated,
but like was still living near Santa Clara and had a bunch of friends there,
and they had gone to see Santa Clara. I think I'm getting this
right. Play North Carolina, like North Carolina with like Sean May and Raymond
Felton play basketball, and Santa Clara beat North Carolina. And I remember being
on the phone with them and they were saying like John May, you're on
the May and Raymond Felton, Yes, get one. Yeah them too,
like turn on ESPN or something or like ever, You're never gonna believe this,
And I was like, no one's gonna be talking about this ever,
because something else happened tonight and it was like the biggest story in sports,
and this will be the only thing on Sports Center for like six months straight.
Will be males in the Palace. H Okay, so that that was
a sidetrack. Okay, more word association Seattle SuperSonics, uh Seawan camp a
great worst NBA owner? Oh I active or ever? Questions? Scalding is
the most like overtleast comebacks. But like James Dolan's got to be up there.
I thought you might go Dolan. Rick Carlisle, Oh my god,
I don't. I don't even know Rick Carlyle. Thoughts. I don't have
any strong Rick Carlisle thoughts, No, he's not. Is it? Is
he the one who dunked? Uh No, let's not go there for a
second. I don't have my slow offenses, which doesn't make sense because Indiana
has like the fastest offense in the world. Right, that's fine, there's
no wrong answers in word association, all right. Last one in this patch
favorite signature shoe ooh the I don't know what year it is, but the
team Max that had the like it was it looked like a spider web.
He was on the magic all white with the lines like these blue lines kind
of swooping down. Let me see, we just become best friends because I
think that's my answer too. And we've never discussed this, uh and what's
interesting and so I'm trying to think of which I so I just googled it.
It was the Adidas Men's t Mac two point. No those I didn't
have the gloss on it. Maybe it did, so it must have been
the Adidas Temac two is That's what I'm saying. The two and the three
were both pretty sweet, and then they got weird after that, but I
still bought them, I think because I was a T Max stand for sure
at the time. It was one of my first times that my mom bought
me a pair of name brand shoes. We're always shopping at pay less because
we were just super poor and she was a single mom, and she bought
me these. When I started, I think I made a travel team,
so I had. I thought I was cool as I had my name on
the back of my jersey. Oh, wearing way too many wristbands and not
enough really right, and they clashed because my jersey was gold like this goldish
brown, and I got these T max sneakers and I wore them all the
time. I thought I was hot. Shit, I loved them, and
even now I always have favored like the lower cut basketball shoe. I don't
know about you like a lot of them Lebrons, I don't really like them
because they just a lot of them look so dense and big and heavy.
I will say I also fell in love with some of the the mid career
KD models were the ones that I actually have some of them behind me if
anyone wants to see the show and tell, yeah, Ktie red velvet,
those are yeah, so like I fell in love with these. But yeah,
the Team AC ones were they have a special memory. But they also
just looked I kept thinking. I always thought of two things like Spider Man
for no reason, in particularly because it looked like a spider web and Got
Milk because he was on he was wearing those shoes, while he did like
the Got Milk for like the back of the magazine. That's right, Oh,
that's right, those were those. I love those shoes. I had
multiple pairs of those ones. Great answer. You could not have given me
a better answer. Okay, this is my oh surprise, I actually have
two more sets of these. This is like, this is such a wild
podcast right now, but please, this will all be over soon. Okay,
another set of five here, Serge Ibaka. Oh this word association association.
It's going great. Uh making Kawhi Leonard eat testicles or whatever it wastles?
Was it? Now? You're getting it? Best jersey in the NBA.
Ever, you can't ask questions. I don't know what the I don't
know the teal. It's the Teal Pistons jerseys. Ooh, I like the
that's a good answer. Uh. Favorite dunk contest dunk ever? Ooh?
Who who blew the candle out on the rim? Was that your val?
We are so best friends. That's Gerald Green. That's my favorite too.
The birthday cake dunk. He put a cupcake on the rim and blew the
candle out and dunked it. Caval McGee had the double dunk with the two
balls, right right, that sounds right? Yeah, you gotta go.
Nate Robinson jumping over. Uh what was it? Shack? Why am I
thinking? Yao? Late? How Dwight Howard? Yeah, Nate Robinson just
he had some really good dunk and just the fact that that dude was what
was he five to nine and it was just like some he's like two and
a half inches shorter than me, two inches shorter than me, and I
could barely raise the net when I just I mean, you got to mention
the Vince Carter dunks too. That's another. I remember where I was when
he when he and that was two thousand. That was like because I wasn't
even alive like during the Jordan dunk. Yeah, no Milkens dunk contest stuff,
and just Vince Carter that dunk like that made me fall in love with
the dunk contest, which is weird that it's not my favorite one, but
I appreciate like he had, like the actual complicated aerial moves. I think
of more of the pageantry. Right, Yeah, the other one here,
I have a follow up one. What's the most disappointing dunk contest dunk?
And why is it? Blake Griffin jumping over fake jumping over a kiya?
That was super lame? Do you remember bird another Birdman reference? Didn't he
try like thirty times to complete a dunk and couldn't do it? And that
was at a time where you got like unlimited attempts, and it was just
awful. The whole thing ground to a halt. I forget what year that
was. We should have done at some point when you do like a live
while something or a live pod to ask these questions and then read the listener
responses because they probably have like such great answers. We're not thinking of so
many because neither of us prepped for this. Okay, so what else do
I have? This is you're not gonna like this Bill Cartwright? Do you
know who Bill Cartwright is? I know who he is? Uh? I
think of the Bulls. Okay, weird, super weird. Shooting for him
would be the correct answer. Uh. Speaking of former Bulls head coach Jim
Boylan, the Bulls what was it called the Bulls Leadership Committee, I would
also have accepted mutiny or whatever you compare himself to pop. Oh. Yeah,
that was a wild time. That was. It was the candle burned
so bright and burned out too fast. Okay, last one here, let's
see Okay, pull up two, Pull up two, Tomato Rosen floater,
Steve Nash, catch and shoot three Buddy healed reverse dunk. Oh I have
no, Oh my god, there's no one's even bringing to mind for this
right now. I got not reverse dunk Patrick Ewing. Okay, there's that
picture of him hanging on the rim. I always think of Mason Plumbley used
to really reverse dunk a lot, and Aaron Gordon likes the reverse dunk a
little bit, the two hand reverse. Okay, flop Marcus Smart, I
mean that was also my answer. That's all. That's all for word association.
That was so good. We need comments to let us know if this
was the really fun thing it felt like to us or the total shit show.
Yeah, let us like discord or the comments, which don't You could
tell us which ones you don't like. These are all just amazing though,
But if there's like a segment that you would like us to bring back other
than guess that player. Yeah, yeah, so I have there. I
have start bent cut. Excuse me, start bench cuts for you. But
they're not players per se. They are NBA signature moves. Okay, so
start bench cut. These NBA signature moves Nikola Jokicch's sombor shuffle, Haakima Lajuan's
dream shake, Tim Duncan's bank shot. Oh this is so horrible, Okay,
I'm starting the dream Shake. I have to, and I am going
to bench the Somboar shuffle and I will cut the bank shot because I know
Tim Duncan won't care. Ooh, I don't know. He remember he flipped
off that fan once who was taking a picture of him. He might care.
He can take it. He doesn't care about personal stuff. I'm not
gonna lie. This might be recency biased. I might start the Sombar shuffle
when you said it. Initially I was gonna start it, and then you
said dream shake, and I couldn't. I couldn't go away from it.
Start bench cut These NBA signature moves Steph Curry's pull up three, Dirk's one
legged fade away, Michael Jordan's fade away. Hmm oh man, all right,
I'm gonna start Michael Jordan's fade away. I'm gonna bench Curry's pull up
three, and I'm gonna cut Dirk's one legger. I got it. That's
nasty stuff. I gotta give it to Jordan. Start bench cut These NBA
signature moves Lebron James cross court pass, Tyre's Halliburton's jump pass, Magic Johnson's
no look pass. I'm gonna start Magic Johnson's no I take you know,
I am gonna start Magic Johnson's no look pass, even though some of them
were fake no looks. We gotta be we gotta be critical of those.
I'm going to I'm gonna bench Lebron's cross court and I'm gonna cut Tyrese Haliburton's
jump pass, even though I know that it's okay now to do that,
but uh, the the deeply ingrained do not leave your feet to pass uh
directive is still in my head. I think you're just a coward. Tyre's
Halliburton's jumpass probably should have been benched. The Lebron cross court pass I might
have gotten rid of. Yeah, well, you know, not every path,
not every great pass, has to be flashy. So final one of
this start bench cut these these players based on handles only, Okay, Steph
Curry, Kyrie, Irving, Alan Iverson. I'm starting Kyrie. I think
he's just got the best handl there is, and you're gonna you know,
you know, I'm not gonna cut Steph. So I got a bench Steph
and cut Iverson, which is just like feels blasphemous and I hate that he
made me do that, I will say I think I would probably start Steph
bench Kyrie cut Ai, just because the Steph handles can sometimes end in these
like circus jump shots from all over the place at crazy angles, whereas Kyrie's
it's more about the circus layups or just mid rangers in there, and so
like having the and I know he's had circus like threes and whatever, but
I like the the unpredictability of what is Steph doing and you're getting Kyrie always
feels like there's a method to the madness. Steph Curry's just absolute anarchy.
I feel like his is just totally improvised, and it's even watching it,
even though it's Steph Curry. Maybe not as much anymore. Do you remember,
like a few years ago you could even see like Steve Kerr getting frustrated
where it's like what is he? There's that clip too, was it the
twenty sixteen season where he's like has his hands on his head and he's like,
I think that's the one against the Clippers where Steph is like in traffic
and dribbling behind his back up like the top left side of the arc,
and Kerr is like beside himself and then just has to like giggle after the
shot goes in. That was very much the mid two thousand teens Steph Curry
experience. You know, I saw something interesting. Imon Schumpert was on a
podcast somewhere and he was talking about how Kyrie like doesn't have a plan and
all he does is just like wait for you to mess up or like lean
one way or the other, and then he'll just go the other way because
like he can just move like that. He said, like he doesn't have
an idea before he like attacks you. He just lets you beat yourself and
then dribbles around you whichever direction you give them, which sounded pretty badass to
me. My final batch of stuff, do you have any more? That's
it, I have no more. My final batch of stuff is guess the
NBA nickname? And I'm trusting that hoop type had accurate nicknames. And these
are nicknames that I didn't know right away, So it was one I found
them interesting, but it was a challenge to then come up with players to
include here. So did you did you know any of these? No?
Okay, this doesn't bode well, but one of them I feel like I
should have known and I didn't okay, uh okay, Which let's let's start
off with a Let's start off with a uh, let's start off with a
banger here. Which NBA player's nickname is out Back Jesus, Matt Bonner,
Matthew Delavandova, jo Keem Noah or Kyle O'Quinn. That has gotta be Delavadova.
That is correct. Yeah, look you I did. Did you know
that before? I mean it had to be an Australian. Uh. And
so that that got me. That narrowed it for me. Yeah, I
figured I did not even take that into account. I should have included more
like Australian minefield names there. You're giving me, like Engles Aaron Bains.
I would have had no chance. Which NBA player's nickname is Ankle Taker,
Steph Curry, Kyrie Irving, Alan Iverson or Chris Paul hmm, could be
any of those guys. It is one of them. I can confirm.
I got a twenty chance. I'm just gonna say, I'll say Alan Iverson.
That is incorrect. It is Kyrie Irving. Okay, Yeah, that
that that checks out. Which NBA player's nickname is Big Panda, Carmelo Anthony
Bradley Beale, DeMar DeRozan or Tracy McGrady. Oh, I don't know why.
I think it's Bradley Beal. That is correct. Why is it Bradley?
Why has it heard? I maybe I've seen it on Basketball Reference at
some point and done a double take, because that makes no sense at all.
Okay, okay, cool, two for three? Take it. So
we have two more Batchesky, which NBA player has the nickname count Blockula,
Marcus Camby, serge A Baka to Kenbe Mtumbo or Hassan white Side count Blockula
Matumbo has several I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Matumbo. That is incorrect.
It's Hassan white Side, And I'm not gonna lie. That feels like
a nickname he would have given himself over Black christ one morning, definitely,
definitely. Okay. The final one here, which NBA player has the nickname
Big Daddy, Wookie, Wilt Chamberlain, Javali, Shaquille O'Neal, or Bill
Walton. I'm gonna say Javail. I don't know why that is correct.
I was trying to think of like, at least one other goofy guy to
include here, so I went with Shack and then also just Wilt Chamberlain being
called big Daddy would make a lot of sense, and so that's why,
and then Bill Walton I was like, yeah, what the hell, why
not? Statistically Will Chamberlain, it's probably the most daddy out there. I
hope people enjoyed that one. It was interesting to learn. So I didn't
even get through like all the ones that I wanted. And I'm still disappointed
that my nickname for web and Yama hasn't caught on. Can we call him
the Rim Reaper? Don't on this podcast, don't give up on it.
It's like you gotta you gotta stick with it and make it happen. I
don't see any reason that it blocks too many jump shots. So the Rim
Reaper is just probably not Yeah, maybe maybe the Rim Reaper is someone that
really like you have to be skinny, I think, but just because you
know that figure is, it's gotta be someone that like attacks the rim really
hard, like he's like he's killing them. Here's my question, do they
have to go in or can it be John Morant? I will approve Ja
Morant as the Room Reaper. That's pretty sweet, but I we got we'll
try to get the whimby thing off the ground. There's nothing I think.
I think that has some legs. So we just did five minutes of puppy
talk followed by seventy minutes of stat padding. Would you liked I hope everyone
enjoyed this. I don't think we'll ever do I mean, maybe we will
do a full episode of this again at some point, but I had fun.
Do you knock get out of here? Though? Word association? Could
we could go a long way with that because all you need is work.
We're doing it at least one more time so that I can do it to
you. Okay, it's kind of a weird psychological exercise because it really just
says, like, what's what's going on in Dan's brain when I when he
hears a word? That's so the audio if the audience cares to learn more
about you, like on a deep level, I think this is the way.
That's why I don't do no views gives about either. Okay, uh
yeah, well so this was a weird one, but I personally enjoyed it
a great deal. I hope all of you guys did too. Thank you
for all the submissions, and if you want more stat padding probably going to
take some submissions because it's not that easy to come up with a bunch of
random shit all the time. So if you would like to participate in this,
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