Woman babe, and I'll make a good woman steal, I'll make an old
woman luss and I'll make a yo girl sweet. I want to be up.
Put a baby in yer. I'm that I'm bad of the ball,
bad of the bone, bad of the ball. All right, Bully Cunningham,
the great American Rob Sanders is in court. Let's go to him quickly
so that we find out what's going on with Joseph You Bank and also the
murder which is a terrible case of south Burns. And once again, Rob
Sanders, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Rob, how are you
Willie doing fantastic? Thank you for having me back on in this Thursday.
I told you that I would be back for an update on the Joseph You
Bank case just as soon as we have Judge Malloy's ruling. And luckily that
ruling came down late yesterday afternoon. She didn't make us wait till Friday,
which was herself imposed dead line. But yesterday afternoon I got the email straight
from the court that Joseph eubanks latest third attempt to get out of prison on
probation was denied. He is now some time between now and Saturday, which
is his twenty first birthday, is being moved from the juvenile facility where he's
been housed with children despite being a twenty year old serial rapist. He's being
moved to an adult prison where he belongs. And the six young women that
came forward and gave their testimony against Joseph Eubank, they can now rest easy
and finally get some of the justice they've been waiting so many years for.
And Rob Sanders, when you look back on the history of this matter,
I suppose he began his serial rapes as an eighth grader, and he was
a cubcat of course in high school and Notre Dame Academy across the street.
If you had to give us a paragraphic capsule as to why and admitted serial
rapist could have done what he did beginning of the age of fourteen. He's
now about to be twenty one on Saturday, which is seven in your period.
How in the hell is it possible that a serial rapist could get all
the breaks that he received, including being in kitty Court and kitty jail with
a lot of passes to walk around the community for the last several months and
years. How was this possible because I can't imagine this is legal, but
you're telling me it's legal because of Densmore and shul their great law firm was
hired by the Ubank family to keep this matter pending, hoping to get him
out of serial rapes. How was this possible over the last seven years,
Willie? You know, normally I hate the term privilege because I think it's
overused and abused and over politicized. But you know, this is one example
where I can't argue with the claim that privilege is to blame when it comes
to Joseph Ubank. The only reason that he has been kept in the juvenile
facility is because his family had the money to pay three or four hundred dollars
an hour or whatever the Densmore lawyers charge for them to file a lawsuit against
the Department of Juvenile Justice and basically back them down. Not here in Kenton
County, of course, where everybody knows what Joseph Ubank did, but dan
in Franklin County, Kentucky, which is Frankfort, our state capitol down where
nobody knows Joseph Hubank, nobody knows who his victims are. That's where they
filed their lawsuit, and it was a lawsuit that the Sheer administration baffled me
by discowering from the judge down there, said I need a record. The
Department of Juvenile Justice hadn't made a record, So I'm sending it back there
for you all to make a record, and I can review that record and
see why you made the decision to ship him to adult prison where he belongs.
And rather than go back and make the record and litigate this case and
fight their way through court on behalf of those rape victims, instead they said,
okay, we'll keep him till he's twenty one, not a problem,
just don't take us back to court. And so that's what they did.
But money is the only explanation as to how he stayed there. Fortunately had
to prosecute a number of different juveniles as adults over the years, and not
a single one of them has been kept in the Department of Juvenile Justice custody
until they were twenty one. But then again, not a single one of
them could hire Densbourne sold to go sue the common over Kentucky. Well,
what lies ahead here? We said at twelve fourteen pm the day before he's
going to be transferred I think to adult prison. Is that Eddieville where he's
going to spend the next I don't know twenty years, but probably four or
five years until he's up for parole. But but nonetheless, what's the next
step that Densmore, by the way, a great law firm, the largest,
the most politically influential in the dry state. What's their next move?
Because I would think as long as the client's paying Densmore is going to keep
filing lawsuits. What's next? I'm sure until they run out of their three
or four hundred dollars an hour or whatever they're paying these high powered attorneys,
that they'll still be filing law suits and appeals and anything else they can think
of, who knows, wryting letters to the governor and rating letters to the
presidency, and if they can get somebody to let him out. But meanwhile,
Judge Malloy's order says that he shall immediately be transferred to an adult prison.
Now, for security matters, the Department of Corrections doesn't inform the public
of when inmates are actually being transferred, so that nobody can try and hijack
the transport and escape him or break him out. Of custody or something like
that. So sometime between yesterday afternoon, when this decision came down, and
Saturday, when he turns twenty one. In Kentucky law says, once you
hit your twenty first birthday, that's the drop of deadline where you have to
go to adult custody. Sometime between yesterday and Saturday, he will be transferred.
He'll go to Lagrange, Kentucky, which is one of fifteen different adult
peno institutions in Kentucky, but it's the one where they do the classifications.
They'll take them in, they'll evaluate him, they'll decide what facility they want
to house him in for the remainder of his sentence. He could end up
in Eddieville, which is our maximum security state pen attentre done in the far
western corner of Kentucky, or he could end up in any one of the
other fourteen institutions that we have. When's his first eligibility for parole because he's
already done, I guess if he gets credit for time served in Kitty Court,
he's going to get credit for about three or four years. When's his
first parole hearing, Well, he's going to serve eight and a half years
before he's eligible for parole. Willie and the victims knew about that. They
thought that they were not going to have to fight this fight four eight and
a half years. They thought they'd all be able to come back as adult
women before they had to deal with this again. They didn't know that they
were going to have to fight this probation issue three times in the first four
years of his sentence. They didn't know that he was going to be housed
in a juvenile facility with children. That's why it's been a manifest in justice
this far. That's why we've been fighting it so hard to try and correct
that manifest in justice. But they will have about another four to four and
a half years before they have to go before the parole board and tell them
to keep Joseph u Bank behind bars and he belongs. And as John Drought,
the Kenton County Commissioner, it's going to be on the side of letting
him out again. Because John Drought, which is a big name in northern
Kentucky, it's a prominent name. For some reason, the families enlisted him
to try to get their rapists son either not go go to jail or get
out early. What's the position of Commissioner John Drought at this point to free
Joseph Drought, Well, I can't imagine he's runs the election. Really,
I'm assuming that because no elected official in their right mind would come to the
defense or advocate on behalf of a serial rapist over the six victims that came
forward and gave testimony against him. I can only assume that mister Drought is
about to retire as a Kenton County commissioner, and if not, if he
does decide to run again, I will be one advocating for his retirement and
whoever foss to run again. And I think after this Willie there's enough pissed
off people in Kent County had the letter he wrote that somebody will file to
run for his seat, and now second lay a big headline today, Prosecutor,
that would be you. Social media feud over parenting skills led to the
shooting death Northern Kentucky man twenty three year old at Seth Burns was gunned down
outside of his home and independence and I suppose over social media a man to
Turner, thirty eight years old, doorbell cam shows that she's leading and this
is mom thirty eight years old over social media flap, led her four children
and Xavian Turner's new girlfriend down the street while screaming threats and insults, and
out pops a seventeen year old boy whose name not yet to be used.
I imagine he's not been indicted or tried as an adult yet. It came
out out of a door and listened momentarily to these arguments from a man to
Turner, and he gunned down, you know, the Seth Burns killing,
twenty three year old Seth Burns. Then the family left, and so when
I see the doorbell cam, it's unbelievable. It looks like a scene from
Gunsmoke and which there's mom. They here are these adult these are children of
hers that are teenagers, et cetera. They're yelling insults, explained the social
media few that erupt at the cause literally the murder of Seth Burns. Willie.
If there is ever going to be a downfall of our society, I
am convinced it is social media in the Internet. This is the third person,
well not this year, but the last twelve months. Third person the
last twelve months that's been shot over insults that started on social media where one
person has insulted another person's child, where their parenting skills, or insulted them
as a mom, And that's what we had here. It didn't even have
anything to do with Seth Burns. He didn't even live on that house or
in that house. He was a guest at that house with his girlfriend.
They were over visiting a friend of theirs. The female resident of that house
was in an online dispute with Xavion Turner's new girlfriend because she was his old
girlfriend, and they got to insulting each other's children on social media, insaulting
each other's mothering skills on social media. Next thing you know, the Turner
family is parading down Archer Court and independence going to fight these women in the
house. At the end of the call to sax and Seth Burns was one
of the people that saw this about the half in this fight about to go
down. He tried to intervene stepped in between, and that's when one of
him is Turner's sons, the seventeen year old whose last name is also a
Turner, but his first name has not been identified publicly yet. He stepped
forward and shot two shots, one of which suck struck Seth Burns and the
torso killing him unbelievable, and then they laughed crazy, brilliant, stupid and
unnecessary. Well, I'm thinking of self defense. I would imagine the seventh
General boy's gonna say he was defending him sell for others against the verbal threats?
Are you prepared to defend against the self defense argument that I was defending
my life and those around me by the seventeen year old boy, we are
Willy. Seth Burns was unarmed. He was a guest in the house that
the Turner family was marching towards and screaming threats at and presumably preparing to invade
or at least trespass upon their property in order to engage in this fight.
And that's where the riding charge that they're all facing comes from. That as
a felony offense as well, obviously not as serious as murdered, but still
a serious charge that carries real prison time. Because five or more of them
went over there to engage in a melee in front of God and everybody on
Archer Court, and it was this juvenile and his older brother's Davy on the
both hit guns and produced the guns. Seth Burns was not armed, He
didn't have any weapons, much less a gun, and yet he was the
one that was gunned down. So we're prepared for any self defense claims and
we'll deal with it when we get to try in the seventeen year old boys.
Of course, at juvenile maybe he should get DENSMOREL. Densmore and Shoulder
represent him. God knows what will happen then, But nonetheless, is he
going to face charges as an adult? Yeah, he will. It starts
in juvenile court, like every case does in Kentucky under Kentucky law, no
matter what you charged with, it has to start in juvenile court. If
you haven't obtained the age of eighteen yet, and this fella hasn't said the
case is there now. There is a process to it. It takes some
time, but I've already talked with our County Attorney, Stacy Tapk in her
office. They will be seeking transfer based upon a number of factors that qualifies
for trial as an adult under Kentucky law. The seriousness of the offense,
the fact that a juvenile was using a handgun to commit defense, and the
fact that this juvenile is not going to be a juvenile too much longer.
In fact, he'll probably be eighteen before we get him to trial, so
that's three different basis. We have to bring him to adult court, and
that's what we plan to do lastly year in court. Right now as I
speak, can you talk about what's happening right now because you're in your lunch
break? Well I can't. I could, Willie, but I don't want
to poison my Churi. I'll be happy to call you back and tell you
about it, because this is a doozy of a case. But we've got
twelve good jurors actually thirteen counting our alternate right now, and they're all out
to a lunch break and they're all good people, so they're probably listening to
your show because I'm sure they're great Americans. So I don't want to talk
about the facts of the case. But maybe you and I can take this
up next week and I'm sure it'll be entertaining for your listeners. Hi,
Rob Sanders, thank you, good to be there, and good luck staying
on the Joseph you Bank matter until he's locked up. It should be today
or tomorrow because he turns twenty one on Saturday. And Judge Malloy said she
said, get him out of here before that, so he may already be
on his way to Lagrange. We'll see what happens. But in four and
a half years, when these teenage girls or maybe in their early twenties,
they're gonna have to once again fight the good fight to keep Joseph you Bank
locked up for decades for what he did to these girls from Notre Dame Academy.
And once again, Rob Sanders, thank you for coming the Bill Cunningham
show. Good luck in the case you're on now. Thank you, Willie.
It's been a pleasure. God bless America. All right, let's continue
with more and if a line becomes available five one, three, seven,
four, nine, seven thousand. In this case in independence is truly unbelievable.
You hope adults will help younger folks behave in a fashion. But when
mom a man to Turner thirty eight, drives her own teenage son to and
from the scene, and when the doorbell video shows that Turner enter, four
kids are marching down a street and broad daylight, shouting epithets and other threats
against the family of the seventeen year old boy last name is Turner. And
then someone seventeen year old had a gun, pulls it out and murders in
cold blood twenty three year old Seth Burns. All lives have been negatively affected
by this, including the rioting charge, and I can't imagine how this has
shaken up the independence community. Let's continue with more twenty five minutes after the
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Mike Allen Junior coming up after one o'clock to talk about the Nihilo Madamo matter.
I'm sorry, and we're going to discuss what's happening with that case.
It's a terrible circumstance, but as indicative of what's happening, the decay and
the cultural collapse that's happening all over the country. You see it not based
upon race, but social situation. You see it in Independence, Kentucky,
and you see it on the Purple People Bridge. You see it basically everywhere.
Then after that, Chris Simlinski will be here from Numbers USA. That's
after two o'clock. No Reds Baseball today. As you know, I listened
to Tommy Thrall and Jeff last night and at the end of the game they
related the fact that the Redds players themselves in the dugout look like they lost
their last dollar, and they just the players knew that after a fight that's
taken about one hundred and fifty nine games that they were done and that something
spectacular has to occur. But this team has been so resilient. Maybe the
least likely event will happen, which is tonight, two teams are playing,
the Marlins and the Cubs are playing The Cubs are in Milwaukee, and the
Marlins are playing in the Mets, and if both those teams lose tonight,
the Reds would be one game behind, and that would mean in Saint Louis
they're going to keep playing consequential games. Now, how hard will Milwaukee play
against Chicago when they're in and they got to rest their pictures for Tuesday,
Wednesday and Thursday. I don't know, but the Brewers want to beat the
Cubs, So we'll see what happens tonight. If tonight both teams win,
or one of the two teams win, then the Reds would be two games
back with three to play, and that means they can't lose a game in
Saint Louis, which is possible but unlikely. But they have among the best
records in baseball when it comes to winning away games, so it isn't over
yet. If somebody had told you to start the season way back on March
thirtieth that the Red Legs as we approach October first, would still mathematically be
in it. Nobody would have believed it. They have done much better than
teams that have spent two and three hundred million dollars more in payroll, and
the future, unlike in years past, is bright. So we'll see what
happens tonight with those two games, and then certainly there's a possibility. USA
today today said there's a three percent chance the Reds make the playoffs three percent,
So it's possible mathematically. And so we look forward to both teams losing
tonight, the Marlins and the Cubs, and the Reds are one game back
with three to go, then anything can happen. Secondly, you heard Rob
Sanders. I love lawyering. I love what we lawyers have done. The
great William Shakespeare had written that for a evil to triumph, first, let's
kill all the lawyers, because we lawyers are the guardians. We lawyers are
the differential between chaos and law and order one properly operating. I have great
respect for Dinsmore. Densmore and schul have done legal work for me and for
most individuals in the Tri State it's four or five hundred dollars an hour,
but it's done well. They develop a strategy a few years back of keeping
Joseph Eubank out of adult prison. They struck a deal. They sued repeatedly
juvenile court, and they sued the state of Kentucky and Lexington Slash, Louisville
Slash, the capital of Kentucky. And as a consequence, what they did
was keep this case pending for a long time and they would have been successful.
And finally, after all that's been done, now the Joseph Ubank,
who was an admitted serial rapist who began raping girls, according to the prosecutor
Rob Sanders, in the eighth grade, six came forward. But there's fears
there's many more. It is difficult for a teenage girl who's thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old to come forward to police and prosecutors
and talk about the violation of her body by a serial rapists. But six
brave young women girls came forward with the support of their parents and told the
story. So he pleads out. It's a twenty five year admitted sentence.
He agreed to the sentence, and away we go. But they've kept him
in kitty court, in kitty jail with a lot of furloughs for the last
four years, and so now he's going to end up in adult prison at
least for the next four and a half or five years. And at that
point we'll see what happens. But at least it'll get these victims into their
twenties so that they'll have more worldly attitudes and maybe not be as damaged as
they were at the age of fifteen and sixteen. So congratulations to Rob Sanders,
also to Judge malloy, and she issued her order I think a day
or two ago, and tonight or tomorrow he'll finally be transferred to an adult
prison and he'll be twenty one years old serving a sentence. So that's I
think that's a good thing. And secondly, the debate lasts not had some
friends of mine send me some emails in Texas what anything about the debate.
I tried not to watch because I always think of Charles Crownhammer's book Things that
Matter. Last night debate was in the category of things that don't matter.
None of them are going to be the nominee of the Republican Party. None
of them has a chance of winning because they're not going to be the nominee.
We all know it's going to be Donald Trump. No matter what else
goes on. He will not be barred from taking office or barred from running
because the Constitution doesn't say he would be barred. And as a result,
he's going to be the nominee of the Republican Party. Come hell or high
water, it should be absolutely Donald Trump. And now to my left,
the impeachment inquiry is underway with the Republicans and Democrats completely on different pages because
everyone knows that he's not going to be impeached and he's not going to be
removed from office because the Democrats don't want Kamala Harris to take over, the
Republicans don't want her to take over. Nobody wants her to be the president.
So this is a kabuki dance in which the outcome is known and how
to get there is for theater purposes. What happened last night with the Republican
debate didn't matter. I thought Nicki Haley did find vivek Ramaswami. I like
that guy. But what difference does it make? Because Donald Trump is going
to be the nominee of the Republican Party, despite the efforts of the Democrats
to keep it from occurring. I could not imagine anything worse as a threat
to democracy or political interference in an election than one party indicting the leadership of
the other party during the campaign. Sea when if these were serious matters,
they could have done this about two years ago, in the summer of twenty
twenty one. All these actions have been completed, except the Marlago piece,
and could have been indicted then, and then the trials would have taken place
about a year ago. We'd be well down the road. But that's not
what the Democrats wanted. They wanted to smear Donald Trump and politically interfere in
the election without consequence. So that's why it's all a farce. What's happening
with the Donald. Why not let us decide as Americans who would have voted
for And I think Donald Trump has problems getting elected much as sitting in office.
He didn't receive enough votes to win the four or five states legally to
maintain the presidency. And now the Democrats know in their heart of hearts that
Joe Biden will be the nominee as long as he's breathing and not falling down.
The next time he falls down or does something really stupid, maybe the
mainstream media would cover it, which make it look even worse for the Democratic
judgment putting up someone who's not doing the job as president. He's not doing
the job as president any more than John Fetterman or Diane Feinstein are doing jobs.
As in the US Senate, everyone knows they can't function. I don't
think Mitch McConnell should be in office. I mean that guy phrases up and
obviously has some mental difficulties, not to the extent of the other three,
which is Biden, Fetterman in Finstein. But nonetheless, you would think the
Republicans in the Senate would find somebody more mentally alert than Mitch McConnell. But
they haven't. And so all that's happening is one in the category of things
that don't matter, because as long as Joe Biden is upright controlled by Barak
Husaint Obama. And make no mistake about this, everyone in the Biden administration
worked for Barack Husain Obama, and so he's the puppeteer behind the scenes controlling
the executive branch of government. Anyway, including Joe Biden and the only fear
I have and a Rocky Boyman mentioned this yesterday that if Michelle Obama, the
media just their eyes glaze over and roll back on their head like a great
white shark eating a tuna. If Michelle Obama would announce the new it's over,
she'll get sixty percent of the vote. Suburban eights go nuts. She's
accomplished little or nothing in her life, But nonetheless, the media just loves
Michelle Obama. I remember a scene from the Tennis US Open and Flushing Meadow
when they kept under wraps that Michelle Obama was going to read a little speech
about fifty years of equal pay and how honored everyone was just to see Michelle
Obama on a tennis court, and they just fell down in adoration. So
the suburban eights go nuts about the Obamas, who accomplished so little and damaged
the country in serious ways. But nonetheless, if she announces then it's over,
then we're gonna have I don't know, twelve to sixteen years of Obama
rule. We had the eight years he was in office, then we have
the four years with Biden, and now we're gonna have four to eight with
Michelle, in which case the country on the southern border cannot survive. I
have a guest coming up, Christian Malinsky later, who talks about the number
of real coming over the next ten years, about about ten million a year
over ten years would be one hundred million more people. One hundred million more
are going to flood it in this country due to the policies of the Democratic
Party being a sanctuary city, sanctuary state, sanctuary nation. One hundred million
coming. Currently, we have about forty to fifty million living in this country
who were not born in America, and America is an immigrant nation. We
admit legally about one million a year. We admit illegally something like five to
seven million, with many more coming. So God knows what's going to happen,
but it's gonna be very difficult. Donald Trump. I would love for
Donald Trump to be re elected president, but he didn't win the presidency while
the president, and since then, the Democrats have worked actively to destroy his
candidacy by indicting him on ninety one counts and now in New York City,
New York State, the Attorney General is about to seize the financial assets of
Donald Trump and his family and disperse them after sale the proceeds to the State
of New York. They're going to destroy him in every means necessary, which
is disgusting. Imagine you have a business and Donald Trump is a small business
owner that you've built over about a forty to fifty year period, and the
State of New York without a victim, no bank, has said he didn't
pay us back, without a victim, steps forward with democratic judges appointed by
democratic governors and a democratic state and says we're going to seize the businesses of
the Republican nominee for president, so he has no money to rely upon on
his own part to run for the presidency. And by the way, let's
indict him and lock him up as quickly as possible because the American people may
want to select him as the president. Are you kidding me? No,
I'm not. That's what's going on as our cities largely collapse. Story in
the New York Times, Major retailers announce hundreds of new store closures due to
mounting crime in American cities. Did you see what happened in Philadelphia the last
two nights. Now, small store owners are out of business, inventory of
stolen McDonald's and Whole Foods and Nordstrom's and foot Locker and Target and CBS,
Walgreens and Starbucks and Kroger are all shutting stores and our magnificent major American cities
because of massive lawlessness, and employees don't want to go to work because they're
being robbed and beaten, and the stores are losing millions of dollars every year
that they're open. And so once again Philadelphia is going to be affected by
dozens of store closures, so that not just a food desert, it'll be
a retail shopping desert and all basically every American city. And it has nothing
to do with race or class structure. It has a lot to do with
the fact that employees in these stores are not safe and that inventory you cannot
ensure against loss because the premiums would be confiscatory. In the case the cvs,
they're going to shut down in major cities, nine hundred pharmacies. Walgreens
is shutting down seventy to one hundred major stores and major American cities over the
next year because they can't afford to operate. Fortunately, in Cincinnati, the
downtown in Cincinnati is functioning and many stores have shut down because it's hard to
park. Crime is rampant. Cincinnati has a lot of crime compared to the
surrounding areas. And fortunately we have a functional police and sheriff's office, and
we have a functional prosecutor's office. Melissa Powers, imagine if we didn't have
a functional police department and a functional sheriff's office in a jail and a functional
prosecutor's office, where we would be, well, we look like Philadelphia's,
Chicago look like New York, which used to be a great American city.
Monuments to American capitalism were the great, magnificent downtown areas. That is a
kid, I would go down to the Times movie theater. It was a
big deal to go downtown. But Tula Clarks sang about it, it was
wonderful. Now, whether it's the top twenty American cities, the city of
Cincinnati's about thirty fifth on the list. No one goes downtown because it is
Dane Duriss and employees don't want to work there, which means magnificent retail and
marketing centers are going to shut down because of the policies of the Democratic Party.
And guess what Cincinnati if we don't watch ourselves are going to follow other
major American cities, including Austin, Texas, for example. Read the stories
out of Austin. What's happening there? It is disgusting. The schools cannot
be attended, the jails are packed, police have there been castrated. Liberal
judges are elected, freeing murderers, and massive lawlessness and looting occurs on an
industrial level, which makes living in many American cities impossible. Let's continue with
more and once again reads Baseball off and then Sunday. Of course, in
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Allen Junior. Several legal issues are percolating. A couple of days ago,
Judge Magan Shanahan ruled that that A. D Deshaun Brown was and was sane
enough to stay in trial and the murder of Nilo and Natitia Lattimore. This
is the case where the mother seemingly was stabbed on the Purple People Bridge and
her body was taken back to her own apartment, and at the same time
Nido, the little boy, was in a stroller, And it appears that
defended Deshan Brown killed a woman and then kills the child who was not his
child, but she was pregnant allegedly with Deshaun Brown's child who had then she
had a miscarriage that may have triggered something. Joining You and I Now is
Mike Allen Junior and Mike Allen Junior First of all, for those who may
not recall the facts of this case that began in December fIF twenty twenty,
tell us what happened with the facts. Well, Bill, it's Cincinnati police
say that on December fifth, twenty twenty, mister Brown killed Nititia Lattimore.
He actually obtained a body bag, apparently from eBay. He left the body
in her apartment for about five days, then subsequently tried to dispose of that
body, and sometime in between there at that time, and I guess a
few days later, apparently took to her young child, Nilo, and disposed
of him in the river. While apparently this child was still alive. Apparently
a security guard found the body of Nititia Latimore in a body bag down there.
I think it was down near Sawyer Point. But Bill, I can't
think of a case in recent memory as heartbreaking as this one's. It's awful,
it's terrible, and yeah, the allegation here by Deshaun Brown's lawyers is
that number one, he's mentally ill. Serious mental problem is a bipolar disorder,
but that necessarily would not render him not guilty of a reason of insanity.
Kind of described to the American people, what is the standard on an
n GRI well, essentially, Willy an NGRI, the standard would be that
the defendant did not know the wrongfulness of his actions due to the severe mental
disease or defect. Whereas what the attorneys in this case, mister mister Brown's
attorneys are trying to do is they're saying, well, yeah, he may
he may be you know, not eligible for an n GRII ruling. However,
and it's a recent law how spill one thirty six from January that is
now saying essentially that it allows for a person who doesn't meet the criteria of
a not guilty by reason of insanity or incompetency, it gives them another mechanism
to challenge their eligibility for the death penalty. Now, what that law says
essentially is if somebody qualifies as what they call a serious mental illness and that
those are including schizophrenias, getso effective disorder by polar delusional disorder. Now mister
Brown's attorney saying he suffers from bipolar disorder. The issue here is is that
the House Bill one thirty six law, which is I think it's RC twenty
nine nine two five, that's a lower standard than the n GRI I think.
So essentially, n GRI is I didn't know the wrongfulness of my actions
due to this severe mental disease or defect. This new law specific to the
death penalty is a significant impairment essentially, So it's a lower burden, and
it's basically saying that that mental illness at the time of the offense impaired their
judgment, rather than they didn't even know the wrongfulness of their actions. So
it's it's a lower standard. The defendant's got to show by a preponderance of
the evidence that he's been a diagnosed with one of those disorders and be that
second part, which is essentially that their judgment was impaired because of that disorder.
Well, at this point, the judge, Megan Shanahan has ruled that
even though he had a mental illness, he could stand trial. Let the
jury decide. And your father would know a lot more about this than many
others because he was the prosecutor. But no one can recall a time in
Hamlet and County when a jury has found someone not guilty by reason of insanity.
It's probably happened once or twice in the past fifty years, So why
is it so difficult for a jury to accept us to accept an NGRI.
Is that is that what you're asking? Yeah, truly, I think it's
it's they're not you know, they're not equipped to really understand that unless you've
got a jury you know, full of psychologists. You know, they're not
able to die. And what I can't say is this bill is even even
before getting into a jury, you know, whether it's competency, whether it's
n GRI or anything that has to do with sort of you know, a
mental disease or defect playing a role in the commission of a crime. Those
are very difficult things to prove somebody. You know, I've had clients where
it's like, this person is affected by you know, X, Y and
Z disease or defect, they have bipolar, they have schizophrenia, but if
they're able to comprehend the wrongfulness of what they're doing on on top of as
far as a competency thing goes, it's not just is this person, you
know, suffering from a mental illness, it's do they understand what's going on
in the courtroom. So it's an unbelievably high burden to me, and in
this case, Uh, you'd have to assume that de Sean Brown knew what
he was doing. He used a knife to kill this woman, so he
had to grab the knife, had a director toward her body, stabbed her
repeatedly. He then wanted to secrete evidence of his crime by getting a body
bag delivered and then putting her in the body bag, taking her down to
the river where it was finally left. But these are all mental processes that
were formed on such a way to show that he could conform his behavior to
reasonable acts. Absolutely, Bill, and I think that's that's part and parcel.
You know why why this is a defenalty case, because you know he
just again you and I talked about this. I can't remember a case with
more disgusting and devastating facts like this one. On top of the substantial steps
that he took to carry out these murders. This was This was not a
fly off the handle thing. This was not I'm hearing voices where somebody was
schizophrenia or something like that. This was a planned, premeditated murder, which
is which is why he's facing the death penalty right now. And the police
may speculate that she had suffered a miscarriage seemingly of Deshan Brown's child that may
have triggered this rage that resulted, and and and the murder of Natitia and
also Nilo, and the most sad all it is sad, but to have
a little little baby like Nilo and a baby stroller and Joe Dieters at the
time thought the baby was thrown into the Ohio River. And I know Search
and Rescue went through the days and days and days of trying to locate their
remains and failed to do so right right, And like I said, I
just it. You know, anybody who's in the criminal justice system, we
don't really deal with with the most uplifting fact a lot of the times.
But I, like I said, I just I cannot imagine a more nightmare
scenario, especially for the police officers that had had to deal with this.
But the death penalties there for a reason, and it's for cases like this.
A couple of months ago, on July fifteen, twenty twenty three,
Ched Dorman and Claremont County lined up as three little boys Clayton who was seven,
Hunter who was four, Chase Dorman who was three, and killed them
with a rifle execution style and previous to that horrible mass murder, there was
no medical medical slash mental defect that Ched Dorman had. Some have testified he
acted in a peculiar fashion at times, but I would assume he'd be subject.
Does this new law helped ched dormant at all or hurt him? So,
to be honest with you, Bill, I'm not as familiar with that
case. What I can say though, is is if there is that diagnos
if you get that diagnosis and that you can show that that's severely impaired your
your ability to essentially, you know, determine right from wrong, or if
if it played a role, yes, And that's the thing builds is you
know, it's sort of built into these death penalty cases. Is you know,
I think a lot of people's logic is for anybody to do something like
that, they'd have to be totally out of their mind, you know what
I mean, for anybody to hurt a five year old like that, to
murder the potential mother of your child, you know, all that kind of
stuff, you'd have to be out of your mind, so to speak.
But again, it's that's not the standard. The standard is is are you
was your judgment or ability to to to realize the wrongfulness of your actions significantly
impaired by one of those four or five you know, diseases or defects.
So I would imagine in a death penalty case, any death penalty case,
any defense attorney is going to raise every single issue humanly possible, which is
again, it's it's a lot of times why death penalty cases takes so long.
Yeah, And I had a lawmaker about a week or two weeks could
Representative Jeanie Schmidt that talks about eliminating the death penalty because number one, it
takes forever to execute anybody. Number two, during their DeWine years, no
one has been executed because of problems getting the right drugs, as if a
load of fentnel wouldn't be good enough. And the other thing is and I
think that's a good argument that it's it's worse to spend the rest of your
life in prison without possibility of parole than it is to go to sleep and
not wake up. Yeah. Yeah, and you know that's getting up every
day in an eight by eight cell. I mean, I got to be
honest, if I had the cholice, I'd say give me the needle.
But but yeah, I mean it. This is the death penalty exists for
a reason. In the two cases that you're talking about. I just I
cannot think of facts that would would would would warrant the death penalty more than
than the dormant case. And this this Seawan Brown's case now, and it
is up to ries to decide those things. And when juries are shown,
the pictures and this is the way Nilo Lattimore that this is a picture of
Clayton and Hunter and Chase and it is so awful and so terrible that the
person that did that should forfeit their life. The difficulty is, as you
know, is how it takes fifteen to twenty to thirty years, and the
millions of extra dollars that are being spent, and the fact that being in
a concrete cell until you die, I think is a worse punishment than being
executed by simply going to sleep and not waking up. But I do,
and Mike Allen Junior, I don't know what to say, but these are
difficult cases. But if we had a death penalty that was functional so that
in one to two to three years after the event, all the appeals were
heard, and that's it. I'd be in favor, but this is not.
It doesn't work that way, absolutely, And that's the thing, Bills,
when you look at you know, the main policy behind the death penalty
one of you know, two of the main things are deterrence and and punishment,
and you stop and think about it. Well, anybody who's going to
go out and commit heinous murders like this that you know they're not thinking,
Oh, I might get the needle if I know this, And as far
as punishment goes, again, if I had the choice, give me the
needle rather than the eight by eight concrete cell. You know, all you
do is go to sleep and don't wake up and hopefully in hell when that
does happen. All right, Mike Allen Junior, we gotta run, but
thanks for your input on this. We'll see what happens in both cases.
But they're awful. But to get a successful and not guilty by reason of
insanity, damn near impossible, be goes. Jurors don't buy it. And
if you engage in cognitive behavior that makes sense to a sick mind, before,
during, and after the fact, it's pretty hard to say. At
some point in the process when I was killing Clayton Hunter and Chase Dorman or
de Sean Brown. As I was killing Nilo and Natitia, I kind of
didn't. I couldn't conform my behavior to the law. I did know the
difference between right and wrong, especially when you secrete yourself and you secrete the
body. That demonstrates some men to process without question. It demonstrates intent,
It demonstrates calculation, and it just it all shows that this was a premeditated
double homicide. YEPA. Michael Allen Junior, thank you very much, absolutely,
Bill, take care man, God bless all right, let's continue with
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four O two two two Getting ready? I guess for what next? Holidays?
All correct now? Yes, number one, The Reds make the playoffs.
Give hope, root like you know what and pray. Let me write
this down for the Braves and Mets on Thursday to beat the Cubs and Marlins
respectively. Thursday. Worthy, where's the Marlins playing today? Let me see
here? I thought they're playing in Mets. Mets. Well, that's what
they're saying. Well, I forgot about the Braves. Well, let's see
sweep the Cardinals. Without a sweep, Dads would need the Marlins to lose
all four of their remaining games against the Mets one game and end the Pirates
at home. To that end, the Reds announced of starting rotation change for
Saint Louis. Get them all so get enough help from the Mets and Pirates
to keep the Marlins from winning anymore in one of their four remaining games.
Get help from enough from the Braves and Brewers to keep the Cubs from doing
any better than a split of their remaining four games. And the Reds are
in so the odds are three percent according to USA Today Today. That is
what you call a veritable crap shoot. Thank you, Marty Well, if
they would have won the game nine to zip, things would have been a
little bit different. Well, and then also let that last game against the
Twins, they had the lead and blew it because the first guy got on
on a bunch single Well and it went downhill from there. That's Homer Green,
so on the way he returned to form a couple of nights ago well
and then and then uh uh Andrew Dave Abbott also also ran out of gas
last night. He didn't make it to the third and eight hits. Yeah,
he ran out of gas. What I think what these guys need to
do is end Sunday and then just go on vacation like Tuesday, and then
not even touch a baseball till like maybe Christmas Day. Well, today you
were to ask that age old question, how are we looking not good?
We need it comes to lose today, need the Marlins to lose, and
the Reds are only one game from glory sweep right, No, they're in.
Do you think the Cardinals gonna lay down? Yes? No, Yes,
the Reds are off today. They commenced at first of three tomorrow night
in St. Louis. Let's see Bengals at Tennessee Sunday Preview The Action Tonight
Round Table Show, Lance, Rocky, everyone else, everybody, Michael,
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Thursday Night Football Detroit at Green Bay. But can we see it? Seven
thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty Can we see excited? I don't know.
You gotta have that Prime stuff? I got the Prime deal? Now,
well, then turn your TV on and turn it to Prime. I don't
know what to do. Is that what you do? Yes? Thank you,
lap I got the Prime deal? Okay, yes, Now what will
you get to that channel? Then you'll get go to the Prime channel.
What's that? It's the Prime Video channel? Piece? Yeah, it's the
app, the number one option. Like this show. I'm gonna keep watching
Bright Party. College football is Cincinnati Bearcats on the road tomorrow night against b
y U in Provo, Utah. Nine fifteen on the Home of Kid Chris
one O two seven w E b in. If they beat b YU they're
often running. Then the Ryder Cup starts tomorrow morning in Rome, Italy,
Cincinnati time. Mike McConnell's an alternate and they here are the matchups. Let
me know, Scottie Scheffler, Sam Burns, v John Ram and Tyrrell Hatton
pretty good much, Max Homa and Brian Harmon, Victor Hoblin and Ludwig Aberg.
I'm going with the Europeans on that one. H Ricky Fowler, Colin
Morikawa, Shane Lowry, sep Straka, I'm taking the American who care a
Xander Shawflee and Patrick Cantley, Roy McElroy and Tommy tnt Fleetwood. I think
I'm taking the Europeans on that one. So so if that happens, what
does that mean? We got Friday, Saturday and Sunday, but the big
event is the Reds meet me in Saint Louis also you see and at the
Provo, and then also on Sunday you got the Bengalis teeing it up against
Tennessee. Right, and we also want to say very happy birthday today to
the full Rock number thirty three, the Pride of the Bengals and Arizona State
number thirty three. David Folcha has a happy birthday today. If you see
him, tell him hello. He's got to be at least thirty five years
old. And then I'm saying we need to free Wally. Free Wally guy
last night showed up at the Philadelphia Philadelphia Phillies game a fan apparently denied entry
into last night's game, trying to bring an alligator. It's not the one
that ain't the woman. No, no, not just any alligator. His
emotional support alligator. Why does that happen? Name Wally? He brings Wally
the alligator. They wouldn't let him in. How big it was, Wally?
Do we know? Very small alligator? And he claims on a leash
emotionally support, emotional support alligator. We need one of those. Catch you
on the flip side, We thank you. We need one of those around
here. And Jeff Brantley will be heading south yea Sunday evening. We hope
to come back on Tuesday. Well you know, if they well, I
mean they won't have any more home games unless they world get into the Division
Series with the with the Braves a Ka or the Dodge Airs. I think
they can beat them. M let's nonetheless, let's just get in correct in
you you play the Brewers, that's it, and see what happens. You
never know what you know, and the Brewers might move out of Milwaukee.
I heard repairing a little bit of a they're having a little bit of a
problem with their stadium deal. They got issues. Doesn't never like here well
with Alicia Rees and and uh what and all the commissioners Stephanie do Moss and
Denise three house double d is uh double d? You know? So I
don't know, but they got first, they got to figure out the pay
course stadium. Correct. Got a text here from a friend of mine that
says, what about in a matchup? Hell Alligator v arambe? Pretty good
match up there? Yeah, I would say to say, where are you
going to be? In a tree or in a lake? Well, I
mean or on land? Well, harambe, I've seen some of those movies.
Those large gorillas are bad dudes, amen to that, So harambe,
God bless them. Was one of them until Joe Deeters killed him, shot
him down like a dog, kind of like those dogs attacking the Cincinnati Police.
What's up with that? And how about Commander the German Shepherd? And
the White House so far has been eleven White House personnel. Right, can
you remember what happens to that dog? That was Trump? If Trump had
a dog biting the Secret Service, right, he'd be up on animal cruelty
charges. And now they would have like the Georgia thing, the New York
thing, this that and everything else. And they're about to seize all of
his businesses. What about this well that it's that fraud deal? Is it
going to jail? Is not enough? Austin now wants Donald Trump to be
in the poorhouse. Sees all, he's gonna win the White House and I
bet he pardons himself. Can he do that? He doesn't apply to Georgia
or New York. But Jim, he had great credibility until he said that.
Now it's like where did he come from? That's Austin. That's what
Trump said about Austin. Don you're right now, we got serious issues.
We're gonna they're gonna impeach the president. No, they're gonna go out of
business on Saturday night at midnight. That's possible, of course for a federal
employee. It's a paid vacation because they pay you back if you don't work
anyway, it's not a bad gig, So thank you, Anthony Winer.
So the media is acting as if this is a catastrophe when it's happened numerous
but you get your they paid back anyway. So it's like, Okay,
might get part time with him. She's it's like, we're in trouble.
It's two days ten what is it? Ten hours? In hours, ten
minutes? Republican shutdown. They got like a scoreboard behind you. Some are
horrible people, horrible human things. Who cares? How about the trump'ster bankrupt
in jail? That's the goal of the Democrats, is that election interference?
If he goes bankrupt, we're all in trouble. We're in trouble. Well,
we're in trouble. Warren Buffett's in trouble. The guy from Apples in
trouble. Bezos is in trouble. Everyone elon musk you me, dj Hodge.
He's done. Yeah, nobody's got anything anymore. No, we'll have
nothing and like it all right. So today we've got a root for the
opponents of the Marlins and the cups. Correct they both lose, then the
Reds are one game. Well, then the Reds gotta win. If they
win the next fres no guarantee of that is there. I'd say if they
win the next four, if the Reds can win through in the next three
games, they're in. Is that right? Well, it all depends on
what the other teams do. Well, I mean, one more loss and
it's bye bye, Loretta. Well, now it's on life support. Correct
if that happens, right, go get the paddles, stand back, hit
them, rampart, rampart? Where are you? We're in trouble flight segment?
Is at it? In sports? I think? So? Got the
Ryder Cups starting tomorrow. Nobody cares but the Ryder Cup. Well, you
to get up and at three o'clock the morning. It's all this contrived drama.
I don't know, contrive, it's all supposed to be. Victor Hoblin
had a hole in one to day in the practice round. He's pretty good,
the greatest round ever shot? How about this one? Yeah? Scotty
Cheffler last nine holes at the BMW Championship about a month ago. Right,
he's leading the tournament by two correct, and in the back nine Scotty Cheffler
shot thirty two correct and he lost by two. Goes Hoblin shot twenty eight.
How do you do that? Twenty eight? He had eight threes and
a four. What would you do if you shot twenty eight on the back
nine at the friendly Confine? That wouldn't mean I would have not played the
last two holes? Would you? Would you gold plate your clubs and put
him right in the front door. Some said it was the greatest nine holes
of golf ever played. Eight twenty eight on a long championship golf cord correct.
The leader shoots a thirty two on the back and he's two up.
What would you have bet he would have won? Wouldn't put it all on
the table? He lost by two? Incredible. Victor Hovlin is, thank
you, a great Swede. He's gonna be tough to beat. We'll see
what happens. Will he about eight threes on the back nine and the four?
That's pretty good? Amen? So I get me out of the students
report. Well, the an hotter of go Reds, Bengals, Bearcats and
everybody else. We leave you with the immortal words of the student report.
But let's tell the truth to everybody about what this is. This public school
system is no longer run by the public. It is run by the teachers
unions in this country. Randi Weingarten and her crew are absolutely straggling. They're
taking the worst of their members and defending them rather than advocating for our kids.
And when you have the President United States sleeping with a member of the
teachers union, there is no chance that you could take that away from the
teacher's union every day. Is this from the Chris Christie last night at a
debate. Oh, I understand Mike Penn sleeps with some to some teacher.
Also, did you watch any of that? I tried not to because it
was so irrelevant and immaterial. Much ado about nothing. They were like yelling
and screaming at each other to shut up, know your role and shut your
mouth. Obviously nobody did that was Chris Christie and I don't know what we're
gonna do, But my God, are we in trouble. He May God
have mercy on our soul because the Democrats will not segment. Thank you very
much. Yes. Coming up next is Chris Shemalinsky from Numbers USA. Can
you spell Smolinsky? I was just about to say that. No, no,
and talk about the numbers. Was about one hundred million ready to come
into this country? Yeah, come on, one hundred million shouldn't cause any
problems. No, no, nothing. Well, let's continue with more red
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Eric and of course, Numbers USA USA have been there for a very long
time chronicling what's happening on the southern border. But good times in the bad
largely now quite bad. We can talk about threats to democracy and election interference
that's happening right now on the southern Southern border. The numbers are beyond unbelievable,
But first we must describe the problem before we can seek solutions. Chris
Schamlenski has been with numbers USA for a long time. It's a great website
when it comes to discovering what is happening at the southern border. And Chris
Schmalinski, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. As we get started,
can you describe to the American people, just generally speaking, the scope of
the problem on the southern border and to a lesser extent on the northern border.
Yeah, well, it's probably a lot of folks have seen the images
on their TV screens or across social media, so they probably have a good
idea, but just to tap some numbers to it. And in August,
the administration reported that it made four thousands encounters of unauthorized migrants, in other
words, illegal aliens trying to enter the United States, whether crossing the border
illegally or coming through ports of entry. That's a record. We haven't seen
that number. We haven't seen a number that high. And the scary thing
about this is that we did see a temporary dip in the numbers in late
mayor early June after the administration wind down type of forty two, but it's
ramps back up to these record level numbers. And what it just you is
that in all likelihood, the drug cartels are really kind of orchestrating everything that's
happening down They're probably sat back to wait and see exactly what the new administration's
policies were going to be. And once they saw that the US was still
going to welcome people into the country illegally with open they started to lamp back
up the numbers again. So that's the situation work currently in and Chris,
you talk about a big business. It appears according to HHS, the drug
cartel, Sinaloa and others make about a something the range of a billion dollars
a month from their activities. It's either three thousand, five thousand, or
ten thousand per person. If a mother comes across with three children, one
must be turned over to the drug cartel for human trafficking and get the other
two inn You can walk up to border patrol entry site and register in a
sense, claim the magical words needing political refugee status or go in between.
And if you do that, suppose you're going to have to wait five years
to apply, but not really just walk up to someone in border patrol somewhere
in Milwaukee or Provo, utahll or Cincinnati, Ohio and get a date.
We talk about a massive criminality. Fentonol is killing over one hundred thousand Americans.
We are funding the drug cartels. There's millions and millions of rapes and
kidnapping taking place on the southern border, to say nothing of hundreds of deaths.
Either you pay with your body or you pay with something else to get
into the country. And I look at this title forty two. Of course
did what it was supposed to do, but that failed miserably. And so
is there. I guess when I have you on and I have other experts
on the southern border, I say, give me some hope. Give me
hope. We're at the end of the fiscal year now in the United States.
Can you give the American people any hope that the southern border will ever
get under control and be a legal entry point for those that we want to
come into the country. Can you get of us hope? Well, you
know, I think it looks like Congress, at least from the House side,
they're standing strong that they want to attack some sort of security funding or
order security provisions onto this upcoming budget battle that they're they're they're heading into.
The Senate isn't quite cooperating right now. Senate Republicans aren't quite cooperating, but
starting to get a growing number of Senate Republicans who are who are saying,
yeah, you know what, maybe we should add some worder security provisions to
the continuing Resolution to keep the government open beyond the weekend, so there might
be some hope from Congress from home is in all likelihood, I don't see
it really getting through the Senate. Even if they are successful in getting some
anything meaningful through the Senate. Uh, and then you could always risk a
Vito from from President Biden. So unfortunately, I hate to take the pair
of that US. But I don't think things are really going to change until
we have a new administration in the White House. That's not going to happen
until January twenty twenty five at the Absolute Students and Chris Chimalinsky of Numbers USA.
Now we have Democrats, including Mayor Adams saying about three weeks ago,
this is run in New York City. The Mayor of Chicago has not figured
things out yet. But all these sanctuary cities and states. When the Democratic
Party itself and its leadership says this cannot continue, maybe it will not continue.
But I think there's so much money to be made by the cinealo a,
drug cartels and others. There's so many, so much flow coming.
One pole I saw said there's one hundred million more coming. I said,
one hundred million more over the next ten years. And it's largely unstoppable unless
we have a border wall, unless we have the US Army on the southern
border, unless we stop it, unless we get Mexico itself involved and making
sure that no one can walk through their country. The long trek from the
trilateral countries in Central America to El Paso, it's about an eight hundred mile
trek through jungles and dirt and dust. Unless the Mexican government itself stops it
on their southern border, there's nothing to stop one hundred million. And so
if in ten years from now, I would have Chris Shemalinsky on and this
continues in the range of ten million a year coming into this country, and
we have one hundred million more on top of the twenty to thirty million already
here. Can you give us some prediction what America looks like then with an
additional one hundred million people for the schools and the hospitals and the roads and
the bridges and the usage. Can you tell me what America looks like with
one hundred million more coming into this country over the next ten years. It
would be devastating for the United States. But I would think that if we
start to see quantity it's about five I think something would change at that point
in time. I think you're starting to see Democrats, especially in Pulling,
they're starting they're starting to move a little bit on this illegal immigration issue.
You know, for the Mars part say, they seem to jump onto the
company line that Democrats have impreshments for such a long time, that we need
comprehensive immigration reform, which usually means amnesty for everybody hears illegally, and then
just pretty much expand legal immigration to a point where nobody would have to come
illegally anymore because there will be green cards for everybody who wants to come.
So that's that's sort of been the company line for the Democrats. But you're
starting to see voters, we're starting to see that in the Pulling that voters
are starting to shift, and I think you know, some of these national
polls from you know, Washington Post, ABC News finding that Trump has nine
point lead over Biden, and a large part of it is one because of
inflation, but number two because of immigration. If the Biden administration believes said
it will be impossible for them to win in twenty twenty four unless they make
a change in their border policies. You know they're not going to change,
but I think we could get to a point where it's just that the numbers
are so devastating for Biden that if he wants to continue to be an office
and remain in power, he's going to have to stop the flow, which
he can. He can do a couple of things that will immediately turn off
the flow of Billy commigration into the country. Let me write them down.
Give me one, two, and maybe three. If Chris Simlinsky's the potus
and you see what's happening, the rapes, the robberies, the kidnappings,
the drug importation, the destruction of the rule of law, schools filling up
with their legals. You have hospitals, et cetera, jobs, etc.
It's awful. Give me the one two and three of numbers USA to stop
this. If you're if you're Biden, what do you do now? Yeah,
I think number one has to be remained in Mexico. We saw the
Trump administration do that. They came up with the concept, it worked successfully.
It was in place for the first month or two under the Biden administration
before they rolled it back. And essentially what that would do is anybody who
tries to enter the United States, instead of the administration catching them releasing them
into the United States with instructions to report to an ICE office or to appear
before an immigration judge, it would make them wait in Mexico until that court
date appeared. So that's powerful. What that's doing is that's telling them you're
not going to get to stay in the United States if you cross the border
illegally, because that's the message. Now, if you cross illegally, we're
going to catch you, We're going to get your name and information, then
we're going to release you into the United States. So I think that's the
number one thing that has to happen. Number two, I think we have
to strengthen our our asylum, our asylum laws here that the asylum law is
actually strong and appropriate. The problem is is the credible fear standard that needs
to be met in order to enter into asylum is way below the actual asylum
standard. So we have a number of people that are entering in asylum claims
who aren't actually going to be able to receive asylum because they don't qualify.
Third, I think we have to end this administrative abuse of parole. What
the Bide administration is doing is they're catching people and then they're parolling them into
the United States. They're allowing them, they're protecting them from the deportation,
and they're giving them work permits and allowing them to stay and work here in
the United States. That's way beyond the scope of parole that Congress approved for
the administration to use, at least in my opinion, So I think you
need to end that abuse. Lastly, I'm going to give you a fourth
mandatory verify because eventually, we've got a lot of people in the country illegally
already, and a lot of people who have come in over the last thirty
months. Some of them have work permits, some of them don't. Eventually
they're going to those work permits are going to expire. E verify as a
tool that ensures that employers new hires are authorized to work in the United States.
If you have that in case, once they're work permits expire, they're
no longer going to be able to hold a job here in the US.
What about the issue of declaring war on the drug cartels and tell Mexico that
that's a Claire and press and danger to the survivability of this country. The
fentanel crisis. The ingredients are brooding communist right China then ship to Sinan Looa
and they brought across the southern border. What about the issue of I hear
Holly and CRUs and others talk about declaring war on the Sinaloa drug cartels,
et cetera, and to put them out of business militarily. What about that?
I think that's certainly an option. But I also believe that you know,
if you the cartels have shifted so much of their activity now to humans
monthly because they're making so much money off of it. If the US takes
that away from them, it takes that that's herty of business away from them.
So they can't make money on monthling people in the US anymore because they're
not going to allow people to edge for the country illegally, then the cartels
will probably go back to drug running. But you've freed up order control to
try to apprehend them, so we can pull our defenses to stop it coming
across the border illegally are strengthened if you do that, So you may not
need to take that extreme step of going to war with the drug cartels if
you simply stop the people from coming in. But yeah, something have to
be done with the cartels down there and the dangerous drugs that are coming into
the country. You know, I think it's both a domestic policy issue.
I think we've got to deal with it internally, get people to stop using
these dangerous drugs. At the same time, we've got to deal with the
source. And there's a number of different ways that you can go about it.
But I think the number one thing you do stop the flow of illegal
migration in the United States, and that cuts off a huge revenue stream for
them. And of course the big thing is to remain in Mexico because a
person who has a credible claim for a political asylum has probably gone through a
few countries before they get to this one. And the Trumpster said, well,
if that's the case, you must apply in Mexico or you must apply
in Nicaragua before you come here, and you can't apply in this country and
then wait for your hearing day two to ten years from now. And that
policy by itself to have a significant impact. But what are the odds of
the liberal socialistic Democrats, which is really Barak who Saint Obama is the president
behind the curtain, it's not Joe Biden. All of the Obama staffers that
worked for Barak, Whosaint Obama now worked for Biden. They're running the government
and they do not Up to this point it's been almost three years, they
have not implement it. Remained in Mexico the most effective and they got rid
of it. And that's what has to happen. And as you said,
Christian Malinsky, unless the Democrats themselves say, look, we're gonna lose to
this guy. The ABC News poll last Sunday hit him up ten points over
Joe Biden ten points, and that's sent shockwaves through the political democratic establishments saying
this guy can't win. We've indicted him ninety two times, we're not going
to seize all of his business assets to distribute him to the state of New
York. We're going to bankrupt him, put him in prison, and he's
still going to win the presidency. Are you kidding me? Maybe that panic
would cause it to have Well, Christian Mailinsky, we got to run.
But once again, can you tell the American people your website. If they
need more information, sure they can visit a numbers USA dot com or also
across all the social media platforms. Got numbers roussa at numbers USA. All
right, Christian Mailinsky, thank you very much, thank you. All right,
let's continue with more. And of course it's obvious what the solutions are,
but the Democratic Party, being a sanctuary city, sanctuary state party,
are reticent to impose these Trump era measures to stop the illegal flow of drugs
and criminalogy into this country because they've built kind of their their monument to socialism
on the idea that we're sanctuary city, sanctuary state, and they repeat constantly
the words on the base of the Statue of Liberty. So we must go
a different direction if we don't go that direction. According to polling, there's
about one hundred million citizens around the world who want to come to this country,
and Joe Biden slash Obama have made it so easy that many have already
planned their trip. I watched last night on CNN and there was a large
thousands and thousands on the southern border of Mexico coming up on trains and planes
and walking to come into this country. And once you get here, you
get room service and hotels, you get telephones, you get medical care,
and you get a report date in five or ten years from now to have
a hearing. And everyone knows those herrings are never going to take place,
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has pitched a no hitter nine thirty five on this Friday night in Pittsburgh,
and they are all over Bailey between the mound and the third base foul line.
He has pitched a one to nothing no hitter against the Pittsburgh Parents and
being mobbed bias teammates for the first time since September of nineteen eighty eight,
when Tom Browning pitched a perfect game against the Los Angeles Dodgers at Riverfront Stadium.
A Reds Ball cup can celebrate a no hitter thrown by one of their
own, and that what happens to be Homer Bailey. Hello, Hello,
Hello, I'm broadcasting, so there we go. I can refer to our
present star as Homer Green because he was paid big bucks and not performing.
But that was a time when Homer Bailey got it done. Segment. You
were very close to Homer Bailey, a good friend of yours. An exciting
time to be a Reds fan. Homer Bailey is an absolute clown. You
want to revise and extend those remarks. No, you're never like definitive or
strong about anyone. No. He refused to talk about it, and after
his second no hitter to Marty and Joe and everybody in Red's land, I
was into dugout. We got Ryan Hannigan. We're looking for him, nowhere
to be found. He's a total, total, classless clown. You want
to extend your remarks, and oh I don't. I don't understand your acidic
viewpoints. So he could, he could pitch sometimes, but he had the
person now who knows, probably down in Texas, look at a cattle or
something. He's on there less care less as a multi millionaire saying good.
He signed a big contract, never pitched again. Rocky. I put up
a text. I want to share it with you. Okay, you know
I love the text Twitter. I don't know what you call. It's at
you x X. This is These are my comments. Are you ready?
Yes? Can't coach speed or power? Ellie has both in great abundance.
Must stick with him, get him to Arizona over the winner. Under the
watchful eye of my friend and neighbor Jose Rijo Red's have a superstar on their
hands. Future is unbridled. Your comments about Jose Rio taking on the control
of Ellie Dela Cruz somewhere in Arizona. Can Jose Rio get it done?
Now? I like Jose Rio as much more than anyone, but I mean
he needs Should Barry Larkin be a part of that, maybe help him in
short stop dame with Jose Rio, I don't I bring them all in.
Let's get the guys some help. I say, don't take him to Arizona.
Taking to Studbergs Jose Rio believable. I put out the missive that you
need to get control of La della Cruise. Can you do it? I'll
see you One thing, uh, I liked what we got going on here
Cincinnati. I like the young talent, the players. I like to see
if you get any team like if they're supposed to. I enjoyed this.
But the only teams that I'm not with they got so many young talent,
to many prospects, and they don't have them know vetter and to teach their
young talent how to develop, how to pu the thing less difficult or less
hard. And that's the problem right now. Pull the talent when the shootuition
this now when it counts which in this season to go to playoffs. They
don't know how to do about the stale for Bottle whoo which I am?
I prome better player? It's not enough. We need to different positions,
especially for the pitcher. Stop for somebody to see them pitch, not just
to pitch them. How to pitch? You know they can see them pitched?
How do they goose? Stop the little quicker? And that's the problem
with Della Cruse. You don't have the sperienced barn guy each I battle feature?
How don't be patient? How to do detend that little with those over
the young process? Do they need right now? That's your problem where you
go so young you forget about the better player? What about you and Abbott?
What about getting you to Arizona for a couple of weeks? Abbot,
get him out there, Williamson, Williamson get him up to everybody. How
about you Eric Davis and Barry Larkin in Arizona for a couple of weeks.
How about that. That's a great combination. That's a winning combination. We
get the number to prove it so it'll be awesome and I'm doing a different
to ginited city. I'm doing a differently, right you know that? Yes,
you do it different, no question, yes, believe it. Well,
are you in Cincinnati for a special event? Why are you here for
any reason? You know what, I'm going to push somebody else. There's
gonna make your note exactly what I'm doing because he's more experienced, he's a
policeman. And you want Buddy used to pitch bod and practice internal red left.
Yeah, no, righty, Randy. Uh, he's what we're doing.
Hey, well, hey, Danny Cott, here are you doing?
Danny, I'm doing well. Why do you have Riho? Blame it on
Rijo and Cincinnati once again the side of his greatest ventures. Well, Bob
Tennis was down at the Hall of Fame representing the corner where he works and
talking with jose and he said, we've got this charity football game for Saint
Josephs Orphan is now New Age Orphan, New Ways, no Orphanage. And
we had yesterday at the Reds camp up in Roselawn indoor because of the weather,
and it was awesome, just a great event for the kids. He
could be life changing for some of these kids and Josie gave his own time
to come up here and share with them throughout the first pitch. The sheriff
Department brought in the ball on a drone and delivered it Jo him. We
had bagpipers and Al Staples sang the national anthem color Guard. It was.
It was the whole work. Everybody had a good time. FBI Secret Service
at a lot of law enforcement was there also. Now this FBI is investigating
segment Dennison, so you can locate them here. But I tell you Jose
Rio Glory days nineteen ninety choire to wire and Josie was the MVP of the
World Series. We need the old time Reds from the nineteen nineties to teach
these young kids how to behave Billy Hatcher's coaching right behind us in Madera.
Billy Hatcher lives in Madeira, correct. I see a hide to him on
him and who hit five forty five in the World Series? Billy Hatcher?
My point? All right, once again, you give my best to the
Reds land there in Roseline. You're a great American, and tell Jose Rijo
to leave the Porto Rican women alone. You know what I'm saying. Anybody
cares, anybody can the Dominican, well Jose, congratulate, congratulations in a
life well lived. And you're welcome here all the time. You're the best.
You bless America, Salo to panty and God blister Cincinnati and other spans
love it and I hear one more time hit it. Thank you, God
bless them Anican, thank you, thank you. You talk about the best,
the best, glory days a right next door coming, like covering the
ninety the Great Oils Series, Reds team the greatest because they had May one
ball games. They had characters and great big personalities. They had manager who
was nuts. It was at everything. Lou Arian Jones, Lupinella, rolling
around with Rob Dibble, had a fight in the club in the clubhouse.
Seen that Billy Hatcher bass nasty boys. They were nasty. They were nasty.
I would like to say that get with a chess guy, kick their
ass. I thought I gotta say, and all I think, all right,
we ct our mouth shut. We just went out there and proving it
on the field. They could talk all a lot, but they're gonna Sty're
gonna sit home all winter and they know they haven't got nothing because we got
the ready and we got the money. We got everything they do. That's
the greatest statement of all time by number seventeen Chris Sabo. And how about
Paul O'Neill leave Cincinnati traded for Roberto Kelly. And now there's a monument of
Paul O'Neill in Yankee Stadium. Canna leave the paul O'Neil twenty one, I
mean Jo Bar Joe to Mario. Yeah, all of them, and Paul
O'Neal he deserves it. Yah, the love that guy. How many World
series he went up there? Four, got one, He's got five crib
rings and now one for the thumb. I hope the Reds can at some
point return to glory. But they got to get connections to the nineteen ninety
Reds, would you agree? Yeah? And I'm bad I got Larkin in
there, they got Davis. I'm in special assistance. I mean Billy Hatcher
getting getting in there. All these colleges, all the pro teams. They
make an effort these days to go back to the old teams that were good.
What about you going back to Notre Dame? What about that? The
Titans have had had us, had us back, had a bunch of us.
What about Notre Dame? Well, you want to get rid of it,
invite? I can't go because I got What about in Dukeay? What
about Shinna doing duke Away? Can you spell Shinna doing duke away? Non
a long time? Sinna doing duke Way? He's a favorite of the fbox.
Yeah, that's a different story. But nonetheless you're going back to Notre
Dame, ya or name? I work on saturdays. What about Freeman?
What does he say? Does he any count to a big game against dukes?
Any account to eleven? Yes? Inexcusable mistakes. Coaches all the time
at the right fight song going talking about the details, and you gotta behind
the line. You step out of the line, you cheat the team,
you're cheating yourself and all this and a minor detail. I like, you
have how many guys on the field at one time? Twice? Do you
know that I feel sick for those players? Do you know the words of
this song? Of course? I do? Okay, go ahead, I'm
gonna sing. He's got more song. I know things went forever around here.
Believe me, that's such a good point to get me into the Stude
report. Report from Jose Real Studberg one snap Desmond Ritter and the UC bear
Cats. He takes the snaps. Heat from the celebration begins at Notre Dame
Stadium. Opportunity seized as the Bearcats send a message to the college football world.
Did you see that? Cincinnati wins at twenty four to thirteen. I
gotta Columbi And here goes the final countdown. As Marshalls runs the midfield and
Notre Dame Stadium. We're down to three and two and one. It's a
final. Marshall twenty six, number eight Notre Dame twenty one. Let's repeat
that one more time. Twenty six to twenty one. Marshall wins it at
Notre Dame. According to shotgun train them off his right hip, two wide
to the right, snap accord down, chick train on those can straight.
A converted linebacker finds the end zone, and that'll win it for Ohio State.
Wait till Saturday night when Duke beats Notre Dame. Not gonna happen.
You can't beat you can't beat Marshall, can't beat Ohio State, can't beat
Duke. All I'm saying is there's problems in South Bend. It's all I'm
saying Ohio State is gonna have some real problems with Michigan. Here telling you
right now Michigan, yeah, and other teams me, I don't know.
I see Jim Gulick tells me that Ohio State's gonna beat Michigan. That's what
he says. Is Tom Wheatland says Michigan's gonna beat Ohio State. I think
Tom's right. And then you got you got a hold salut. Holtz got
a little bit of trouble there with Ryan Day, just a little. I
saw some of the some of the stuff going on. That's your guy,
right nineteen eighty eight. I again, I asked you how many national titles
as the head coach does Lou Holtz have one? How many? Is Ryan
Day have zero? Anybody will he the stude reporters a proud service of your
local temp star He to get a condition dealers and shut in your mouth thame
star quality you can feel in Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun at Braun Heating at five,
one, three, three, eight, five seventy seven sixty five spots.
Let's see, Willie, those reds are off today. The final series
of the season commences tomorrow night along the Big Muddy Mississippi against the Cardinals in
Saint Louis, the Gateway to the West. The action will be right here
on seven hundred W. Wellw with that loss last night to the Indians,
one the Ohio Cups stays in Cleveland, and two outrageous, the Reds are
a game and a half back with three to go behind the Cubs and Marlins.
Tonight. If Marlins lose and the Cubs lose, the Reds are one
game out of the last wild card with tide breakers. They got to sweep
the Cardinals, hold their coons and see what happens Bengals at Tennessee Sunday preview
the game tonight, Round Table show Lance the Rock, Everybody Live at Long
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Also, let's see what else? Oh if you want? If you
wanted to buy tickets to the twenty twenty three Cincinnati Chili Bowl, you better
make other plans Chili Bowl. Remember, the USA Sports Commission in Cincinnati board
announced plans in December of last year to bring a new postseason bowl game that
would be played at TQL Stadium, the Chili Bowl. However, However,
the Inquirer says that plans have been halted its season due to a lack of
approval by the NCAA. There you go. Are they still in business?
They think they are, but I'm not sure. And then I say,
however, North Carolina that he should be eligible, but that the NCAA won't
let him be eligible, even though his previous school says, you know,
he wasn't able to play here because of COVID, so he didn't actually play
for our school. But they're counted as a They're so stup best, stupid,
stupid free Wally, That's what I say. How about the emotional support
alligator that was not admitted to the Phillies game. This thing is five foot
long with a big head, and he likes hot dogs and wieners. So
sank sank? Good point the way real quick. We have a Don Davenport
who is my sideline partner with ESPN. She's part of our crew. She
also she works in nash Short she does radio down there. She need to
give us the insights. Break it down the Tennessee Titans right here, three
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of the stude reporters who celebrate Wally the emotional support alligator Willie, go Rids,
Go Bearcats, go Bengals, and free him. Don't forget about jose
Rehoal did Bergs. We leave you with the immortal words of the stew Report
said what you were saying was making her dumber. Know the first time I've
heard daddy, what do you say to that? I don't take personal offense
to it. To be honest with you, these are good people that were
trapped in a bad and poisonous political system. What the hell was that I
want to bring more than that? I don't know. No fake GRAMA swammy,
it's you say, next guy, can you spell rama? Swammy?
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