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the shot shot the Shore, the
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the Sunny Place, Shows, the
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show, a shower, show,
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before before the flats of the whole
of the Black and all Right, what's

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up? Welcome, long requested.
Jamie. Unfortunately didn't feel like being with

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me tonight. She's a little sore. She had a a little bit of

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a minor poland surge operation. She
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Just kidding. She did have a
minor surgery and no big deal. She's

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a little sore, so she's good, no worries, but she was not

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up to the live stream. We
thought maybe she would feel like it,

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but not tonight. So it's just
me boring old Me and my new lesbian

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wine aunt Glasses and bonus lesbian aunt
HARDU. So welcome, big big interview

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today, probably I actually believe it
or not, next to Lord Voldemart.

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Today we had long conversation with I
don't want to say who yet, but

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probably the biggest figure that I've talked
to, and it was pretty wild.

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We talked for about an hour and
a half. That'll be up in a

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few weeks, but man, it
was crazy. So and I'm not talking

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about Tucker. That was cool.
I didn't actually talk to Tucker when we

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did that. I was on the
documentary as you guys saw, and Tucker

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introduced it and he did mention me
and whatnot. So that's definitely cool,

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super awesome, super thankful for all
that. But this is a totally different

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situation. This is uh, this
was wild, man, I don't know.

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It was a wild conversation. A
lot of the research stuff you've heard

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me talking about, a lot of
it was pretty much confirmed by this individual,

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particularly particularly in the domains of theories
about what happened with Marilyn Monroe,

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what happened with JFK, what happened
with RFK, what happened with a lot

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of those individuals, and you know, not just that, but what about

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movies and the way that those or
events have been portrayed. Right, It

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was pretty wild. So look for
that. It's gonna be crazy, you

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guys are you guys are gonna be
surprised. This was This is not what

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you are probably expecting. So we're
branching out doing all kinds of crazy stuff.

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And that's one of the challenges I
think of what we do because I

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was watching these videos that tell you
how you're supposed to do it on YouTube,

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and it's like, oh, you
have to corner a nish, corner

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a nish. But that's the problem
is that we don't do it that way.

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So no, you're not gonna lose
brain cells. We don't. I'm

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not interested. I don't want to
corner a nish. I want to talk

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about all the things I'm interested in, not just one thing. Right,

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So I'm just giving little leaks and
you know, little teasers, right that

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this is the most famous person I've
talked to today. It was crazy.

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I mean next to Lord Voldemort.
Right, So I'm not counting Lord Valdimot

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because you know we're on there every
Friday. We did that what a month

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ago, we did that whole two
hour special right next to Lord Voldemort.

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It's just gonna blow your way.
It's gonna blow your minds. That's that's

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all I'm trying to say. I'm
hyping it up because it really will live

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up to the hype. I couldn't
believe we had this conversation. I was

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blown away, and uh, you
know, it's just another level, layer

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and level of vindication that hey,
you know, you got people who know

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what they're talking about saying, yeah, okay, you a lot of what

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you said sounds good. So there
we go tonight. Though we have never

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delved into I don't even know why. I'm not sure why we never got

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into Matt Dadbod because we did a
lot of Bathleck over the years, right,

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we talked about the Baston retads,
fast Retaddeck and it got so Boston

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retired that at one point Bathleck actually
plays a retired assassin when we covered the

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Accountant and the dang Algorithm just didn't
like that Bathle stream. But the Baffle

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Extream, I promise you it's really
good. That Baffle Extream is worth watching.

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And I don't know what we talked
about why why the album didn't like

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it, But I mean we talked
about some cool stuff in there, because

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there was a lot of hints and
a lot of little nods and things that

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are dropped right in the Baffle Stream, particularly the propaganda for example, around

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Pearl Harbor. The elements of Baffleck
when he's an assassin right where they basically

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just took Jason Bourne James Bond and
said let's make him a Spurg nine thousand.

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That's what the accountant was. That
was wild because it's sort of like

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they're normalizing us in a conditioning.
It's right, I gotta sipping jog.

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You all know that I did make
a funny little crunch Corp video where I

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was singing about I put I filled
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I was sipping it when all it
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it look all weird and brown.
I gotta sipping jug and I'll sip it.

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Oh well night. So that's a
good freaking cringe corps idea there,

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what do you guys think of that? If you would hit like and share,

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Let's back back to Bourne. Back
to Bourne. So I'm thinking we

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got to do this because it's been
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now, I gotta check with some
real quick because I never looked to see

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was Robert Ludlum's background in intelligence.
I don't know, but probably because this

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is one of those things where you
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write these site these types of stories
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always, but quite often. So
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So it says that he was educated
at various universities of calah blah blah blah

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drama. Okay, so nothing odd
or interesting there. He studied drama theater.

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been oftentimes recruited into eligience. So
not much to that very possible, but

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it doesn't look like there's much information, not a lot on Robert Ludlam when

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you go look up his biography.
Basically just famous for the Born movies.

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Now they made eighties or like a
nineteen nineties Born movie, do you know

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that? And one of the reasons
that we have to we have to cover

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him is that one of the things
you'll notice is that the novels do and

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the movies do revolve around conspiracy theories. And it's even mainstream right, Like,

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it's known that his novels all involved
to some degree real conspiracies. That's

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why we're covering it. In fact, Ludlam himself wrote that the Mattery Circle

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was inspired by the history of the
Trilateral Commission. And as you know,

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we are currently working through the Patrick
woodbook Trilaterals over Washington, that he wrote

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a long time ago with Anthony Sutton, because we cover the other Anthony Sutton

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books and you guys, I did
a poll and you guys mainly said let's

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do that next. So that's interesting
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and this kind of stuff. So
again, very odd that you have this

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theater dude who seems to know about
some pretty high level stuff, given that

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he was writing this novel which I've
not read, in nineteen seventy nine.

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So in nineteen seventy nine he was
writing about the Trilateral Commission. That's crazy.

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In that book called the Matayse Circle. Now there's another one too that

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he wrote way ahead of time about
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was called The hull Croft Covenant in
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Casa movie with Michael Kine and the
whole Craft Covenant Marshall White. Now I

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think that but that relates to you
know, kind of like standard Fair,

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a little tiny mustache man networks,
right, which is kind of overplayed.

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There were so many if you look
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nineteen fifties up into the seventies,
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because that you could make movies about
that, right, that's approved. You

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could make a few thousand movies and
novels about underground you know, galen organization

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networks and all that. So,
and that's a real that is a real

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thing. It's just kind of like
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it's not. That's not running everything
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understanding the twentieth century and its conspiracies. But it is interesting again to note

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that Robert Ludlam of Jason Bourne fame
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it notes that, for example,
whether them being isolated bands of ideological or

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politically motivated extremists, typically in Ludlum
stories, the individuals are pawns of giant

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government, private organization groups that are
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we do have reference to basically the
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I mean, there's like a fricking
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covering tonight, the the twenty sixteen
Matt Dad Bought installment because it was not

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that good. It was kind of
boring, So we're only covering the first

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four. I did still kind of
like the Jeremy Renner episode. That one

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was pretty good. And we're going
to get to the details and how I

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think that throughout the Born movies we
actually have references to quite a few real

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things. So we're doing a classic
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I'll be showing you a lot of
the books that I think identify these real

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programs and today obviously because you guys, as you guys know, the real

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documents of m culture are pretty sparse
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of those, but there's a lot
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written on this, and we've lectured
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three or four of the main texts
in on my channel, so you

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guys should be familiar with that.
But back to Bourne. Let's get to

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the main issue here. If you
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on a nice balmy Tuesday night,
every night's balmy. I just always say

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it's balming. It could be two
degrees outside. It's a balmy two degrees

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tonight. It is actually warm,
and thank God for that. It's so

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sick of all the cold. We've
got a nice three hundred and twenty people.

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Welcome, everybody, all you chat
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So I remember at the time watching
when this game came out, and it's

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like, Okay, they're gonna introduce
a new spy franchise. Right, we

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all know about James Bond, we
all know about Tom Coom. He's got

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mission impossible. Well, old Matt, dadbod he needs, get him a

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dang spy thriller franchise. And it
worked, so he got a he had

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a successful one. I think when
you get to that level, right,

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you want to you want a franchise
because that's what's gonna, you know,

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be the big bucks. So A
Born Identity came out in two thousand and

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two. This is a significant for
the date. So we're one year after

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the Big nine event. And you
will notice as a mini films during that

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time period Illustrated it was actually a
pretty hot button topic at that time to

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talk about and critique the Bush expansionist
agendas. It was pretty standard to be

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anti war throughout Hollywood. Plenty of
people in journalists and media were critical and

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anti war at that time, and
so this was when there was this kind

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of rational approach still existing amongst what
people thought was the left at that time,

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okay, or people who thought they
were left right. And you did

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begin to have right after the Big
Nine event, some of the earliest questioners

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of the Big Nine event. So
it's very interesting that this came out at

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the time when there was the beginning
swell of the major criticisms of the Big

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Nine event. And we're also right
at prior to and at the beginning of,

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you know, the expansion into the
Middle East, right, Oh,

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we gotta go get you know,
Afghanistan, we got invade, we gotta

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do this and that because of the
Big Nine event. Now, as you

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guys know, we've covered James Bond
at nauseum. Going to talk about Bond

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too much, but do remember that
Bond is a trained assassin. That is

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the actual job of Bond. He's
not just a spy. He's not just

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doing surveillance. He's not just you
know, saving Western civilization by as an

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old white man finally going to his
death in no time to die. That

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was the symbolism of that, right, he's also a trained assassin, and

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that's actually what the double O status
means, all right. He gets his

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double O status because he's trained in
all the arts and techniques of assassinating.

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And this is based, as we
know, on various figures that Ian Flaming

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himself knew in real life, as
well as some of the things that Ian

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Flaming had been involved in. So
in this case, though, the focus

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is much more on the trained assassin
program. So there's room about this,

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and I think there is truth to
that, right. I Mean, we

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don't have all of what the mculture
programs were, but it does seem pretty

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obvious that, yeah, certainly they
would have been involved in programs to create

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assassins. Sure. And one of
the reasons they would be involved in that

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was not just the stories that we
have from doctor Esther Brooks about the trigger

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code with the hidden information and the
altars and being able to bring it forth

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with the key words, right,
that was one of the first things that

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was published by doctor Estherbrooks on mpdd
I D in relation to the MK programs,

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but also the idea of getting people
to overcome the moral compunctions that they

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might have right to these kinds of
activities. And if you're the military,

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you want to train perfect killers,
obviously, so how do we do that,

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How do we train the moral the
perfect killer that doesn't have moral qualms?

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And what are all the techniques that
might be used? And obviously one

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of the first things that comes to
mind is that we know this existed in

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Vietnam. It was the Phoenix program. We've covered this with Dave McGowan's books,

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We've covered it with the Douglas Valentine
book. We went through the Phoenix

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program, and that's why Dave was
motivated to Right Program to Kill. Right.

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Everybody's heard of this. These are
some of the you know, the

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classics tonight. We all know about
this one. We've talked about this book

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too. Right Program to Kill where
we get Dave mcgallan talking about not just

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the Phoenix Program, but how many
of the seventies and eighties serial killers came

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back, typically from some form of
military training, some form of Vietnam era

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training, and perhaps my control programs, etcetera, etcetera. So there seems

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to be a connection there. And
I think that you know, whatever Ludlam

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knew to some degree, he knew
about this, right, And it's very

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plausible too, because remember that two
of the most famous MK ultra books that

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are you know, the cannon when
it comes to mcultra that we have covered.

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You have a Bowarts book Operation Mind
Control, that came out in nineteen

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seventy eight I think, yeah,
seventy eight. And then the one that's

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very similar to Bowarts book, which
is the John Marks techt text on CIA

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Mine Control and Mentoring Candid. All
right, so those are the classics,

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and this the John Marks book came
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after the Bowart book. Right.
You've got these two seminal texts on MK

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in Dave's book, this was like
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long after the Big nine event.
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to discuss is the theory. And
I don't know for sure if there's a

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document that proves this, it's just
kind of a prevailing theory. Is the

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idea of the delta and I think
this comes from the idea of delta force.

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Right. So delta force obviously special
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in and do you know crazy stuff. Extraction mission sabotage assassination. Right,

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So we know, for example,
in Vietnam, a lot of Green Berets

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are recruited into being taught how to
be these kind of assassins, all right,

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And so you get people recruited into
Delta force, and everybody knows about

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Navy seals, right, similar types
of things. So the idea here is

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that there's a specific Greek letter coding
as the theory goes behind the various types

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of programmed individuals. Again theory,
but probably isn't a document somewhere. I

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just don't know exactly what the source
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journalists and people writing many years later
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Right. So again still somewhat in
the realm of theory. But as one

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of the classic writers on this topic, I'm sure everybody's heard of Jim Keith.

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This is one of the classics.
This is the first book I ever

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read on this topic, many many
years ago, is Jim Keith's book Mass

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Control Engineering Human Consciousness. And I'm
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He was an odd character, but
Jim Keith wrote this in nineteen ninety

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nine, and later on he actually
makes a connection that is going to be

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familiar to you guys, because we
just covered this, he says, and

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he's citing from various psychiatrists. Hammond
is one quarter on quarter quarter on Hammond,

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I think is his name, doctor
Hammond. Whose theory an analysis based

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on a lot of people that he
treated, is that there seems to be

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a connection between the types of people
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the listing of the names in Brave
New World. Now it doesn't match up

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exactly, but just as we saw
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beta's, gammas, deltas, and
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structure of those that are that we're
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types of people. So the theory
runs this that the first level is alpha,

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that is general mind control or the
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characterized by augmented memory and perhaps the
splitting of the mind between the left

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and the right or other types of
creating of altars right beta programming. This

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relates perhaps to sex operations, as
in beta sex kittens, or the idea

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of sex operatives. Then we got
gamma, which is the level provided mind

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control involving to option, misdirection and
subterfuge, Delta being the assassin type of

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program, And so then it goes
on to other theoretical levels which may or

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may not exist, and then he
talks about some other doctors that are written

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on this in terms of mind control. So again theory, but it would

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seem logical given that Delta force does
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the connection at least loosely seems to
be the case. And if you remember,

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I didn't notice this until the last
time I watched Bond the No Time

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to Die, this actually is referenced
the Greek letters or referenced in No Time

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to Die. In fact, at
the end they give the Black Chick and

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Daniel Craig, they're notice they're picked
out by PSI and Phi right, and

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in No Time to Die there's multiple
references to various Greek letters, and my

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guests would be that it's referring to
this. So, although I don't know

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if the novels themselves list Jason Bourne
as a Delta, everything that's in the

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storyline is basically that, and you
are correct. Whoever made the comment a

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few comments back. I have not
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I wasn't sure what to expect.
I thought, you know, I've learned

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and read tons more than I knew
in two thousand, two, five,

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seven, and twelve when these came
out, so surely I'm going to see

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and notice a lot more. And
of course absolutely one percent. It turns

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out this is absolutely a storyline about
mcultra Delta assassins and the notion of creating

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altars and creating distinct personalities with missions, and it even ties into elements that

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you wouldn't expect that we're gonna get
into tonight, like the Russian geopolitical situation.

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I suspect that when he wrote or
when the second one came out,

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which was two thousand and five Barn
Supremacy, did you notice that that dealt

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with certain Russian oligarchs and that the
CI had made alliances with certain Russian oligarchs

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because they were getting scared due to
this program leaking in the storyline, I'm

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saying, and that matches up really
closely to the time period when Putin was

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booting certain oligarchs from Russian who then
went to the UK. So it's just

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very curious that again, as you're
watching these upon reflection, it's like,

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hey, that's like that, that
happened at that time. Hey, this

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is like that thing. This is
like that even to the point when we

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get a Guardian journalist. And by
the way, in the two thousands,

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the Guardian actually was doing pretty good
journalism. Right. We have some friends

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that rope for the Guardian back at
that time. This is before you know,

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the last you know, ten years
or so, when the Guardian went

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like completely Now I'm not saying that
I agree with everything the Guardian never wrote

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in terms of but I'm saying like
when they when the Guardian would cover stuff

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like Snowden, wiki leagues, you
know, spy stuff like they were typically

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pretty good back at that time,
and they were you know, they were

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critique in Dubya and all the warmongering
and all that kind of stuff, which

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again you could do in Hollywood at
that time. So let's get into barn

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identity. We'll be here all night. We've been rambling on. I can't

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ramble on night. By the way, if you want to support the show,

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do so vide the super chat function. Thank you. Guys. Already

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see a couple of super chats there. I missed one from last show.

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Somebody sent a big old fat one
a sixty bucks, so thank you,

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Lorie. I'll cover that here in
a minute. But the first thing we

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noticed obvious classic conspiracy tropes here for
mind control films. He's a soggy super

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patrol soldier with a chip implant.
No, here we go. The whole

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thing kicks off of this and right
away there's amnesia. So oh, he's

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been under some sort of mind wife
program. And uh, there's a curious

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detail they threw in there. I
don't know who this is supposed to refer

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to. It could be too,
you know, some of these uh African

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dictators that had alliances with the CIA. But they threw in this this character

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as an African war lord who's gonna
write a book about the CIA, and

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he's heard about Born and his book
is going to expose Operation Treadstone. And

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what is Operation Treadstone? Well,
it is precisely this super soldier assassin program,

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this Delta program. By the way, did you notice this od The

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odd little detail they threw in there
that when when Matt Dadbod gets back to

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his apartment, he figures out where
he's living at and he's got all he's

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got nothing in there but basically a
stack of passports. Shocker, every spy

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maybe ever right, you've got twenty
passports. Did you notice the name of

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them was one of them was Michael
Kane. One of the passports. His

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alternate identity is John Michael Kaine,
Dad badapp playing Joel Kaine. Please don't

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try and do a Michael Kane accent. What is wrong with my Michael Kane

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accent? Dash? Nothing wrong with
that, mashta wine. That's that's an

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excellent, older, older era Michael
Kaine. The younger Michael Kane is not

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as good. But you know that
that's not a bad Michael Kane. And

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if you if you don't agree that
that's a great Michael Kane, I will

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never talk to you again. So, uh, shocker. See how he

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finds out, Oh he's loose.
We don't want Operation treads n exposed,

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because it turns out if Jason Bourne
remembers his remember ees, right, if

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he eats some member berries and he
remembers who he is, that he's actually

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David Webb, then uh, oh
it's all it's all gone. The whole

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thing's exposed, and we can't let
this African war lord like a uh,

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I just went blank on the African
war lord that the CIA had, like

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the most famous one that the CIA
had alliance with. What what is that

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guy's name? Time magazine actually used
to have an article. Yeah, this

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guy Charles Taylor. Okay, Charles
Taylor was a CIA African war lord.

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But I remember all the Coney stuff
Coney twenty twelve. What a bunch of

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bello. I was all fake,
fake and gray. But Time magazine used

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to have a great article about for
many many years ago, about SEEIA dictators,

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and they had a few of these
African war lords on there. But

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I can't remember who all they were. And then isn't it wild how Google

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like the search doesn't even work anymore, Like you can't find anything anymore anyway,

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some of these war lords obviously they
had to make this alliance well in

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this movie, so I don't know
who he's supposed to be, right,

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who he's supposed to represent. But
by the way, if you want to

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vote in twenty twenty four election,
vote for Joseph Coney. Coney twenty twenty

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four is that's what that's my recommendation. Um, yeah, he did have

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the Obama camp heart all right,
so they're worried operational tread zone is going

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to be exposed. Now. The
next interesting detail is that immediately the CIA

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is able to activate assassins in all
these various cities. So it's like,

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Okay, is Jason Bourne going to
Paris, France? Is he going to

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Spain? Is he going? We
got it? We got men, right,

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we got dudes right away, just
send a text message on an old

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flip phone. Right, All the
hitmen are. The hitmen are sitting around

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watching cartoons, just waiting for that
on the on their flip phone, waiting

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for that ring tone. Remember then, the two thousand and two era ring

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tones, and you know you got
Doctor Dre and Snoop on your ring tone

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in two thousand and two. R
R R oh, CIA calling, I'm

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activated. Time to turn off,
time to turn off cartoons. I gotta

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go kill Mad Dad Biden. Right, That's that's how it works in movies.

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Literally, in movies, hitman just
sitting around watching cartoons, that's it.

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And you get a text moment,
you get a text on your flip

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phone activated. So literally they activate
like six hitmen, and I totally forgot

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that. Clive Owen is like the
main hitmen in this one, right,

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he's the foil too to Jason Bourne. And then, by the way,

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did you notice the war lord in
this The first thing I think of when

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I see this warlord is why are
you get he's that dude? Right?

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Why are you gay? I am
gay? You want gay? Right?

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That's this war lord. Clive Owen
Boom takes out the war lord. Then

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he's then he's got a sightset on
Jason Bore. So half of the movie

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is basically Hitmen after Jason Bourne.
By the way, it is a pretty

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good movie. It holds up,
it holds up right. This is a

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little different though, because James Bond
basically he just car chases assassin, fighting

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and seducing women. That's basically all
he does. But they added a lot

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of h mcgiver Matt Geiver right to
Burn. So Burn is over there,

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you know, putting chewing gum and
string and you know he's making bombs with

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anything, and he continues all the
way into the last one where he's like

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where you got Jemmy Renter is like
creating passports, you know, in a

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bathroom with toilet paper and cellophane.
I mean, how's he doing this?

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But he does it right. I'm
trying to Jamie's got such good penmanship that

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it's so legible that I can't read
it because I'm so used to trying to

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hold my poor penmanship. Jamie has
an interesting point, she said, did

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you notice that the sun never shines
throughout the entire movie until he reunites with

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I guess she means Franca Potente and
this is what that era to remember Run

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Lola Run, and remember that was
like her breakout role, which was actually

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kind of an art film. That
was Tom Tykever's earlier. I think that

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was his first or second film,
So that made Tom Tykever famous. Tyke

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Vert does a bunch of things that
are hits in Hollywood, not everything,

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but a few things, and then
he did Babble on Berlin. So interesting

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connections there for the career of Franca
Potente, who then goes from Run Lola

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Run and plays the same kind of
rave chick into so she's got like dyed

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red rave chick here as apparently every
chick, especially European girls, right from

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like nineteen ninety seven to two thousand
and three, they all look like Jennifer

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Garner and Alias Right, they all
got Rave you know, Rave chick.

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So Matt dad bought. He's on
the run with her. He's like,

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hooks up with her. Oh yeah, she'll be my chick. Let's run

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away, she can help me out. Um she gets involved in all this,

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and then they hear about this other
thing called the Black Briar program.

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And we don't know what Black Briar
is yet, but the film ends basically

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with them running off, as is
always the case, you run to shell

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Beach, they think they've gotten away, and no turns out. How do

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we end it with that same old
freaking Mobi song. I didn't even remember

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that it was a Mobi song in
this do oh babe. Oh babe.

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Then it fell apart, It fell
apart, Oh babe, I don't even

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remember. I've totally forgot the song. By the way, I love Mobi.

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In the nineties, I was a
huge Mobi fan, right, And

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this is before Mobi acted all just
insufferable, at least publicly, because you

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know, in the nineties, you
just buy CDs, you don't know everybody's

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personal activism opinions. And then by
the two thousands, then it go everybody's

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an activists every every artist is some
activists for some stupid cause, which is

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annoying. But it ends with the
Moby song, which I totally forgot.

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Then fast forward a few years later, two thousand and five, this is

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where we get into the weird Russian
element. Now here's where I was surprised,

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because I would have thought reviewing this
film that, oh, here we

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go a spy movie. Russians are
the bad guys, and the CEI are

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the good guys, and they're gonna
save us from the evil Russians. It's

404
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,599
always the narrative. Actually, no, it's a little more complex than that.

405
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,920
So I was surprised again at the
level of nuance that I guess Ludlum

406
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,760
allowed in the story or wanted in
the story, and that somehow made it

407
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:22,280
into the movie. Because throughout the
film it's not really big government Daddy,

408
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:28,159
Uncle Sam and the CIA. They're
the good guys. So that's very that's

409
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,800
rare, right, It's it's it's
more rare as we get up towards later,

410
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:38,079
because by the twenty tens, right
when we start getting Chris Kyle movie,

411
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:45,039
when we get Zero Dark thirty,
when we get Argo, the movies

412
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:52,159
are basically just total propaganda, but
this series was actually critical, which is

413
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:58,119
surprising. And so you're watching you
think, okay, here we go Russian

414
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:00,079
back. They're all Russian bad guys
and they're gonna trying to kill Matt Damon.

415
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:09,199
I Actually there is one Russian assassin
who is the Rohan horse Lord dude,

416
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:14,400
if you remember him from Lord of
the Rings. He plays Kirill,

417
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:22,599
the Russian assassin, and there's this
complex plot where Kirol is working with a

418
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,800
Russian oligarch and they are stealing money
with a CIA guy from this program.

419
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,400
So they've actually stolen I don't know, twenty thirty million dollars from the CIA

420
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:37,960
and it relates to the funding of
this tread Stone Blackbriar program. So,

421
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:44,519
as we said, Kirol is an
FSB Russian intelligence operative who works for the

422
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:49,760
Russian oligarch Uri Gretkov, which is
just made up, but again very odd

423
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,119
timing because right around this time is
when Putin late nineties and early two thousands.

424
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:58,800
Putin actually did boot out certain oligarchs, so there really was this kind

425
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,519
of power play and these some of
these Russian oligarchs were aligned with Western intelligence

426
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:09,000
at this time, so it's odd
that this was loosely kind of hinted at

427
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:13,119
in the movie. I didn't expect
any of that to be there. So

428
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,400
we had this Russian politician in the
storyline, Vladimir and Nevsky, who was

429
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:25,880
about to identify the thief behind this
stealing from the CIA program. And turns

430
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,559
out, what do you know,
Old Matt Dadbod is who they sent to

431
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:37,159
take this guy out. So amasically, the Russians are not the bad guys

432
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:42,719
in this overall, and rather there
are certain networks within the CIA that aligned

433
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,360
themselves with this Russian oligarch. And
we find out that no, Matt Dadbod

434
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:52,199
was actually named David Webb. He
was just some dude. And in the

435
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,719
novel, which I've not read all
these, I read one Robert Ludlam story

436
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,039
many years ago. I was on
a long trip. Actually I put it

437
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,960
on the audio and that had to
do with that one seemed like propaganda.

438
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,280
I don't remember the name of it, but it didn't seem very regulatory.

439
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:13,440
But in this one in the novel, I was reading that this is this

440
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:19,039
is the crazy part. David Webb
is actually just some shitty dude, right

441
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,280
that they brought into the program.
So it's like a lafemdiquita type of story.

442
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:29,360
Let's just take a you know,
shitty dude off of the street and

443
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:36,920
put him in the program and guess
what turns out in Uh, the Jeremy

444
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:43,880
Renner installment. I was surprised that
this turns out Jeremy Renter is a slow

445
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,039
boy. I was like, what, they're taking slowboys and putting them in

446
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,719
the day M culture program? What? What's what are we having that quirky?

447
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,360
Now the quirky program. You can't
have Quirky out there taking people out,

448
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,679
niping people, giggling back there with
the after he's sniping, popping heads,

449
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:08,400
right, Quirky's over there giggling.
That doesn't seem right? And yet

450
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,840
right, what does it? What
does the Jeremy Renter say? Oh?

451
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,039
I couldn't even get into the military, right, I was trying to get

452
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,400
into the army and my IQ was
too How you got twelve points below to

453
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,800
get in the army? Bro?
How did you put your pants on?

454
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:32,280
Dude? Right? And then he's
like, I am part of tread Stone

455
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,119
two point zero. Now wait till
we get to Treadstone two point z because

456
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,280
that's gonna blow your mind. I'll
talk about the twenty twelve Jeremy Renter installment.

457
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,760
So anyway, there's not a whole
lot in the two thousand and five

458
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,480
one except that you did have a
nuance with all of this, and get

459
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:57,760
this. It actually does refer in
this one that one of the code names

460
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:04,719
for David Webb was Delta, so
it is Delta program. Interesting, so

461
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:13,280
it's a Sassin program. And on
top of that, there's also something mentioned

462
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,119
in the third or fourth one I
didn't expect actually in the screenplay, right,

463
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:20,159
because we watched these oftentimes right with
you know, the subtitles on,

464
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,880
so it's like you get a better
insight into what's actually usually in the screenplay.

465
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,199
Sometimes the subtitles a little different,
but mostly it's right. So Jason

466
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,679
burrowin found Out is actually a killer
with a long history of criminal activities.

467
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:37,639
This is exactly what we covered in
Lafenikita. And this is actually partly true

468
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:42,480
too, because there have been programs
where they recruited criminals for these kinds of

469
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:47,079
activities. For example, there is
the Navy program that we covered in the

470
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:59,039
serial killer stuff, the Thomas Narrat
Navy program about yeah, recruiting serial killers.

471
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,719
I can't pomb my SERI killer notes. They seem to have disappeared,

472
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:10,400
but uh yeah, anyway, that
is one of the pieces of data that,

473
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,400
of course Dave McGowan mentions in program
to kill them. So it turns

474
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:22,199
out, as we suspected, Jason
Bourne was codenamed Delta. He was a

475
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,199
trained assassin. He was a criminal
brought into this project, just like the

476
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,559
plot of Lafin Niketa, which we've
done a whole podcast on go go listen

477
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:37,679
to our lafin Niketa podcast we did
with uh sayop Cinema our buddies over there.

478
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:45,400
Um. So the CIA kills Jason
Bourne his dad in Beirut, we

479
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:50,320
find out with a fake flag bomb
attack. So it actually says a with

480
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:57,559
a fake flag bombam attack. I
wrote that down. That was my notes,

481
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,840
So I think I mean, I
think I mean by that note that

482
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,280
they actually mentioned a fake flag attempt
bombing attemp. That's crazy. So this

483
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,960
is starting to piss off Born right
because he's like, wait a minute,

484
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,159
you guys fake flag bomb my dad
and then you guys put me to this

485
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:19,000
program and gave me a new identity, not by me adopting it, but

486
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,199
like you might controlled me to have
a new identity as Jason Bourne, the

487
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:30,039
super Assassin, the super Soldier Assassin
killer, and you wiped my memory of

488
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:37,639
David Webb. WHOA. So we're
getting into total right alternate personality trauma based

489
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,159
mic control. All right, actual
we moved to Jason Bourne. Three.

490
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:44,800
I want to remind you guys also
do like and share and let me know

491
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,119
in the comments here in the chat
at what you think I'm missing if I've

492
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:52,719
missed any details. Somebody said Blackfriar
program. It seemed like that was a

493
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,880
joint DoD communication program in this story. So somebody said that's Iran contra.

494
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,639
I'm not sure if it's our rank
contra. I don't know what you mean

495
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,400
by that. But if you guys
do want to no, by fake blew

496
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:13,880
up, I don't mean that they
faked the explosion. The explosion was real,

497
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,719
but it killed Bourne's dad, but
it was blamed on someone else as

498
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,440
a fake flag. That's what I'm
trying to say. I think that's what

499
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,880
was implied in the plot. That's
what I got out of it. If

500
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,039
you want to support the show,
by the way, do so via the

501
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:30,360
super chat function, that is via
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502
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,360
ask me a question if you want
to request me to tell you some more

503
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,519
of the books that relate to this
topic. I got more of my stack

504
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,440
over here. We'll get to those
in a minute. Do so via stream

505
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,639
laps, so super chats or by
a stream laps. Thank you guys so

506
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:51,239
much. Now two thousand and seven, things are getting a little more interesting.

507
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,079
And one element that you don't pick
up on until you go back and

508
00:53:54,199 --> 00:54:01,079
watch those Oh that's an interesting point
in this movie. Right, Jason Bourne

509
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:07,440
is David Webb in real life,
but Jerry Renner plays Gary Webb, who

510
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,840
actually was taken out in the movie
about Gary Webb exactly. That is interesting.

511
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:17,159
And I think, right the messenger, that messenger, that's Oliver Stone,

512
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:22,280
Right, I think so are so
born three? Guess what the focus

513
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:30,880
here is? Now? The focus
is NSA spine. Now I knew about

514
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:36,960
one that I learned about the NSA
probably two thousand to right at the Big

515
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:39,400
nine event. I started learning a
lot of stuff. And I knew about

516
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,639
conspiracy stuff in ninety eight, right
because I'd read about the United Nations and

517
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,559
socialism and John Birch's level stuff.
And then after the Big nine event that

518
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:49,639
woke a lot of people up to
at that time. That's a lot of

519
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:52,519
people should have wait a minute,
this isn't weird about this. And then

520
00:54:52,840 --> 00:55:00,039
there was various information coming out through
the two thousands from James Bamford, and

521
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:05,119
Bamford wrote the first book on the
NSA in nineteen eighty two, Puzzle Palace,

522
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,559
and then he wrote other books that
came out in the two thousand's,

523
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:16,559
like the one that talks about the
nine to eleven hijackmen. That they had

524
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:21,960
been tracked and traced and followed the
entire time. So this idea that we

525
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:25,199
had no idea is totally nonsense,
given the fact that the NSA have been

526
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,400
watching these guys, and it didn't
it just come out yesterday that oh yes,

527
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:36,840
it turns out that they were actually
CIA guys mainstream news. Whoa you

528
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:44,079
mean what we knew for twenty years? Come on, dude, Come on

529
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,360
bro, if you guys would hit
like and share, help me out here.

530
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:53,000
Come on. I was about to
look some up and I forget what

531
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:59,760
it was anyway. Oh the Let's
see, when do we first get wiki

532
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,320
leaks dumps? Right, this is
when we first started hearing about this stuff

533
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:14,880
twenty right around this time, right, around this twenty ten, Yeah,

534
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:21,719
because I was following it closely at
the time, and Wiki Leaks was at

535
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:28,119
that time sending stuff to Guardian.
Thus, I mean other things too,

536
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:34,480
like their Spiegel and but Guardian was
also very interested in wiki leaks back in

537
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:38,400
the twenty ten period, and there
was the cables that were leaked. You

538
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,039
remember that the Diplomatic Cables League that
was supposed to be a big deal in

539
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:47,679
twenty ten. I mean, I'm
not saying that Wiki Leaks didn't league good

540
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,000
stuff at times, but a lot
of the stuff too, Wasn't that that

541
00:56:54,079 --> 00:56:58,280
earth shattering, I guess what we're
saying. But I do think that over

542
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,039
time I did gain more respect for
Juliana Sannge. I think that he was

543
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,320
generally trying to leak stuff eventually,
and then not too long after that we

544
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,880
get Snowdon and so that's going to
be around the time period of the twenty

545
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:20,159
twelve thing, and Snowdon tells us
about Prism, right, Snowden leagues,

546
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:25,280
that's around twenty twelve, thirteen fourteen, trying to remember the exact date.

547
00:57:27,679 --> 00:57:30,239
But a lot of that also I
think was in the Guardian. Wasn't it

548
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:37,639
early on? Because I was maybe
Snowden leagues were twenty fourteen, But I

549
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:39,480
was following Alex and all that,
you know, since two thousand and three,

550
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,400
so I was watching all of this
in real time and following. I

551
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,920
remember when Alex had Burghida Jones dot
tier right who was working with a Sange

552
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,400
at the right right at the beginning, and Alex had Burghida Jones Dotier on

553
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:58,519
and they were they were doing interviews
about wiki leaks at that time. So,

554
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,039
I mean, I've been following this
of since Wikilees is first there.

555
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:08,239
But that is very much Those types
of stories are very much what underlies Born

556
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,840
three, which is odd because again
this is two thousand and seven, so

557
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:20,840
two thousand and seven Born three is
very close to Snowden stuff and Asane stuff.

558
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,599
But when in the movie at the
beginning, somebody mentions the term Operation

559
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Blackbriar, the keyword search at the
NSA is triggered, and they know,

560
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,480
hey, let's check out who's talking
about this this program. Now, that's

561
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,079
not anything revelatory, right, even
though I think prison from Snowden to talk

562
00:58:42,119 --> 00:58:47,760
about that. But actually in Bamford's
Puzzle Palace from nineteen eighty two, he

563
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,519
talks about keyword search technology in the
eighties. So the NSA had keyword search

564
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:59,440
technology in the eighties, right,
But even though that already existed in two

565
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:05,119
thousand and seven, in the movie, they're showing you that, Hey,

566
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:09,360
wait a minute, if there's keyword
search, then why weren't the Big nine

567
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,880
event guys caught earlier? Yeah?
Exactly. That's a great question, and

568
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,119
it's a question that even James Banford
himself asked in this book on the NSA

569
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,079
is a two thousands era book on
the NSA, which I read. What

570
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,719
is that book? I always forget
this one. There's two different ones.

571
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:31,000
Well, I mean, he's reading
a bunch of books, but I'm saying

572
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:35,719
it's not a body of secrets.
That was two thousand and one. Shadow

573
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,360
Factory, that's it. Shadow Factory
is one year after Born three. So

574
00:59:39,519 --> 00:59:44,800
there you go, and that is
about Hey, wait a minute, where

575
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:49,559
was the NSA with all the Big
nine guys that we know they knew everything

576
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:54,559
about him? So what the heck? Well, it starts to get more

577
00:59:54,639 --> 01:00:00,159
interesting and Born three, because not
only do we have the Snowden a Prism

578
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:05,480
program, WikiLeaks style stuff going on, and the mentioning of Echelon by the

579
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:07,800
way Echelon is real. So Echelon
is a real program, and it was

580
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:14,599
eschelon. If I recall that Bamford
mentions had actually triggered and listened to,

581
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:22,639
you know, like Muhammad Ata these
guys also at this time, what you

582
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:25,639
guys will forget about unless you were
paying attention to all the stuff. Do

583
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:31,719
you guys remember how often people talked
about rendition? This was a huge thing.

584
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:37,400
And who was that Bush era guy? Was it John U? Not

585
01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:40,199
John Wu? It would have been
better, was John Wu, because then

586
01:00:40,199 --> 01:00:45,000
we would have had some action and
we would have had Tom Kom and John

587
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:51,400
Van Dam jumping up on motorcycles and
doing flips, you know, John Wu,

588
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:54,760
John U. Right, he was
the bush era guy that argued for

589
01:00:55,039 --> 01:01:00,360
why we gotta have t O R
T U R E. This is a

590
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,199
huge debate in the two thousands.
So all these movies started coming out,

591
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:09,199
right, there's even a movie with
the one of the films with the Donnie

592
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,119
Darko Jake Jellin, all right,
he's in one of these movies where they're

593
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,159
questioning the rendition programs because it comes
it comes out, Oh hey, uncle

594
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:21,039
Sam's got all these rendition programs.
And then then it's a debate about well,

595
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:25,400
but is waterboarding actually t O R
T R. Right? Remember all

596
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,760
this, do you guys remember the
two thousands. This is a huge deal.

597
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:32,559
There's all these debates and all these
news stories. Then it comes out

598
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:39,360
about Guantanamo Bay. Remember that.
So that's the atmosphere and the zeitgeist of

599
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,280
two thousand and five six seven era
born stuff, And that's in the movie.

600
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,559
They actually discussed the water boarding.
I think at one point in this

601
01:01:47,679 --> 01:02:00,800
movie. Anyway, I'm trying to
remember when did all the guantan Automo stuff

602
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:08,159
come out? What year was that
two thousand? I'm talking about in the

603
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:15,599
news. I'm not talking about when
did it exist? Anyway, it's in

604
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:19,719
this time period, right. For
me, everything in the two thousands kind

605
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:22,360
of runs together, right, It's
just kind of all like a generic Oh

606
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,519
yeah, that's roughly in the two
thousands. I don't have a very good

607
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:30,199
memory, like chronologically. I just
remember like loose periods, you know.

608
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,559
Anyway, that's all in the background
of this movie, and I thought that

609
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:42,920
was interesting. And then we find
out that what is Blackbriar. What's more

610
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:49,320
than just an upgrade for surveillance.
Blackbriar is a Treadstone upgrade. Oh,

611
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:54,079
we got a Treadstone two point zero
in the works. And in this one,

612
01:02:54,199 --> 01:03:00,920
the Guardian journalist guy is getting information
from a CI station in Madrid,

613
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:04,639
I think, and he says,
hey, I want to leak everything about

614
01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:07,400
Treadstone and trust on two point zero. So he goes to this Guardian journalist

615
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,840
and it's in the movie. It's
the Guardian. That's pretty crazy, right,

616
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:17,760
And so Jason Bourne reads this Guardian
guy's story about himself about Matt Dadbod

617
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,559
and Franka Potente getting killed, and
so he said, I gotta meet with

618
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,239
this guy. So he tries to
meet with the journalist to give information,

619
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,039
but the CIA's tracking him and all
this, so they activate assassins to take

620
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:35,599
out the Guardian journalist, which is
pretty wild. Again, this hearkens to

621
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:44,960
like David Gary Web type stuff exactly. Then we find out more about well,

622
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,639
so what is Treadstone exactly and what
exactly is Blackbriar. Well, as

623
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:53,159
we said, Blackbriar is a Treadstone
upgrade. People talking about this super secret

624
01:03:53,239 --> 01:04:00,440
program is what triggered the Echelon keywords
search to say, hey, people are

625
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,559
talking, there's chatter about this.
We better close in on him. Then

626
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:08,000
we find out there's this shady character
who's running the mind control program named doctor

627
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:12,880
Hirsch wild because guess what, this
is very close to many of the actual

628
01:04:13,239 --> 01:04:15,199
doctor I mean, I don't know
of an m Cultra doctor named doctor Hirsch,

629
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:21,119
but I'm saying that the actual mculter
doctors like Jose Delgado rope books about

630
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:30,039
their imcultra operations like physical control of
the mind. So doctor Hirsch obviously one

631
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:33,719
of these Sydney Gottlieb, doctor You
and Cameron, doctor Jose Delgado type of

632
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:40,039
characters. Right, That's who this
doctor Hirsch character is. And we find

633
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:44,000
out that he's a mind control handler
doctor. He runs one of the Treadstone

634
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:48,639
Slash black Fire program and he's involved
in the Umbrella program for black Ops,

635
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:54,320
which is to train these Matt Dadbots. And turns out, oh, it's

636
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,960
not just Matt Dadbot. There's a
bunch of these, okay, and there's

637
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:03,280
even I think a female one in
the next one. So we find out

638
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:08,840
that what he specialized in was behavior
modification. Actually says that behavior modification the

639
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,239
doctor Hirsh guy, and the breakdown
of the psyche of those that opted into

640
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,159
this program because they always do this
opt in thing, right, because it's

641
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:20,320
also my fault you opted in.
And that's the thing that Jason Bourne learns

642
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,679
right when he finally confronts the guy
that runs the program. It's doctor Hirsch,

643
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:29,800
So well, sorry, David,
not my fault you opted in.

644
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,320
It's like, oh yeah, but
I mean, if you trick somebody into

645
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,480
opting into something you can't, you
don't excuse yourself because you tricked them into

646
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:45,320
it, right. So it turns
out, yes, the program is a

647
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:53,000
top secret DARPA type of thing involving
the erasing of memory in one's former life

648
01:05:53,519 --> 01:05:58,119
as a test subject to see if
they could create a perfect assassin. And

649
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,400
it's not just the classic and kill
interest stuff now, as we see in

650
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:11,559
the next installment, it evolves into
bio enhancement, biomad tech, transhumanism,

651
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:18,880
nanotech, and changing the genome.
So it gets even wilder, which by

652
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,079
the way, was the plot in
part of No Time to Die, which

653
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:31,239
we just mentioned. I'm looking to
see there's anything else in the oh.

654
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:38,400
Another curious element was that it does
show Matt Dadbod's dog tags, and a

655
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:43,079
curious element they show his religion as
Catholic, which I thought was curious because

656
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,920
you know a lot of the CIA
people during this period were actually Roman Catholic

657
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:53,400
dudes. During the for example,
Phoenix program, William Colby, famous trade

658
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,800
cat Latin mass at tender, the
guy who's set up essentially the relationship between

659
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,599
the CIA and the Vatican Bank through
a pace of twelfth. That's William Colby.

660
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,960
Um, we got other William Casey, also trad cat. We got

661
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:12,440
Alexander Haig right, Roman Catholic.
So a lot of people in the Reagan

662
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,280
era, so you might be onto
something with that, a rancontra thing.

663
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,119
A lot of a lot of Roman
callous, a lot of trag cats involved

664
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:24,239
in this. But just curious that
Matt Damon was that. David Webb is

665
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:29,280
said to be a Catholic on his
dog tags and as we know, yes

666
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,920
his mind control given alternate identity.
It is a trauma based mind control,

667
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,960
alternate personality creating program. And guess
how it ends? You got it?

668
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:45,840
Oh babe, oh babe? Then
if fail a party, fail a part,

669
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,599
I didn't, I, just like
Moby ends, every one of these

670
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:54,280
did not remember this? Did you
remember that? I don't remember that.

671
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,280
Thank you so much for those super
chests. We got one last one,

672
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,000
which is where it gets really crazy
with the trans humanist elements. As I

673
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:08,400
mentioned, final one is Born Legacy
twenty twelve. A lot of people didn't

674
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,360
like this movie thought as the movie
is pretty good. Again, all of

675
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,560
these are actually pretty good because they're
pretty critical of these programs, this whole

676
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:23,840
attitude of the whole project, and
then the fourth one being a trans humanism.

677
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,720
I didn't cover the fifth one with
Matt, where Matt Dadbod comes back.

678
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,399
That one kind of put me to
sleep. I think that one is

679
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,560
just him and Julia Stiles, and
I don't know what they're They're running on

680
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,920
rooftops and crashing motorcycles like they always
do. How many times? How many

681
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,920
times we can run across the rooftop? Right, Like every spy movie is

682
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,880
good, And Jamie was saying,
and also, if you have a fruit

683
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,560
stand, it's done. Like if
you're if you're in a if you see

684
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,880
a spy coming, you got a
fruit stand, pack it up because that

685
01:08:51,960 --> 01:09:03,359
shit is demolished. I guarantee you. Right. Born Legacy twenty twelve.

686
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:09,479
Jimmy Renner. Now this one is
about as we said, nanotech. Right,

687
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,600
we find out special operations training.
Has Jeremy Renner dropped off in the

688
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,560
middle of Alaska. We don't know
why what he's just dropped off. He's

689
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,640
got to survive, so he's he's
been trained with survival skills, all this

690
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,560
kind of stuff, and then we
flashed to new villains. This time around.

691
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,000
It's it's not the NCIS dude or
whatever his name is now it's it's

692
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:38,720
Edward Norton. So Edward Norton's the
new kind of pencil necked CIA bureaucrat guy.

693
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:42,479
And they decide together with the head
of the CIA, that it's time

694
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,119
to put an end to Treadstone,
the whole project, because it's about to

695
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:51,119
come out because the lean in girl
boss CIA woman from the first three,

696
01:09:53,079 --> 01:09:57,640
the Landry Operative, she's about to
go public and she's going to testify.

697
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,680
She's got all the documents. Time
to shut down Treadstone, and that means

698
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,279
we're gonna get rid of all of
them. In other words, the assassins

699
01:10:04,359 --> 01:10:09,000
have to die. Guess what the
focus of this one is? Drone warfare.

700
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,279
Wow, So it switches from surveillance
and the hot topics of the two

701
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,000
late two thousands. Now it's all
drone warfare, right, remember Obama.

702
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:20,119
All the warfare was, We're gonna
We're gonna also on a drone every wedding,

703
01:10:20,359 --> 01:10:25,039
every wedding in the Middle East.
My wife Michael, No, I'm

704
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:30,479
just joking. Uh, Special Operations
training And in Alaska he meets up with

705
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,319
Oscar Isaac, another person in the
program, but again Jeremy Renner has had

706
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:39,760
his mind wipe, so he's likely
I know how to kill and like string

707
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,840
up a wolf and like, you
know, wrestle a wolf to the ground,

708
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,039
but I don't know how to you
know, I don't know where I'm

709
01:10:46,039 --> 01:10:51,159
at or what's going on. So
he doesn't know if Oscar Isaac's gonna kill

710
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:55,920
him. Just two dudes in a
mind control Assassin projects stuck out in the

711
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,800
woods. We think they're gonna fight. We don't know what's going on,

712
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:01,960
and we find out, hey,
wait a minute, it's time for them

713
01:11:02,039 --> 01:11:05,720
all to be crushed and taken out. And so they send a drone that

714
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:14,239
sends a missile. So a drone
blows up the cabin intended on killing Jeremy

715
01:11:14,359 --> 01:11:18,600
Rinner, who is Operation Treadstone two
point zero. He's one of the and

716
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:27,279
what is two point zero Nanotech super
soldiers genome enhanced super soldiers, but they've

717
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:30,359
been tweaked in a unique way to
control them, which is that they now

718
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:38,720
have a chemical need for a drug, which is some weird nanotech drug that

719
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,199
the government has cooked up. Now, this reminded me for all you X

720
01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:48,159
fan Files out there. You guys
remember the X Files where Krycheck inject's skinner

721
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,279
with nanotech and he's got like a
remote control where he can, like Bob

722
01:11:54,600 --> 01:12:00,640
torture him with it. Right,
remember that this is basically that. And

723
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,199
so Jeremy Renner is he has to
take some pill which is some sort of

724
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:11,279
nanotech neurotropic pill because we find out, as I said, with this other

725
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:16,399
weird old movie, he's actually a
slowboy. He actually if he doesn't take

726
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:23,399
a smart pill, he would he
becomes Jeremy Retarter, right, not Jeremy

727
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:34,159
Renner, Jeremy Retard. He turns
back into slowboy. And what was that

728
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:43,079
movie? Is it, Charlie?
Remember that? Is that the movie where

729
01:12:43,079 --> 01:12:47,199
they take that dude and they take
a slowboy and make him smart. Yes,

730
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:53,800
if you've never seen the nineteen sixty
eight movie, Charlie, is that

731
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,640
flowers for aldron on? I don't
even know Alie, I don't remember all

732
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,319
these, right, So Charlie,
go watch the Crazy movie because I'm like,

733
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,520
this is Charlie, dude. But
now that I think about it,

734
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:15,720
actually Charlie is probably like hinting at
some kind of a culture program and it

735
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,960
looks like is it free on YouTube? I don't know. Let's see if

736
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,000
this is free? Can you watch? It looks like it did, so

737
01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:26,520
yeah, so if you want to
watch Charlie, you see what I mean.

738
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,000
It's actually free on YouTube right here. And the funny thing is that

739
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:36,159
in Charlie, like you know,
when when he goes in this project and

740
01:13:36,359 --> 01:13:40,680
it's like limitless exactly, he gets
super smart that he gets too smart.

741
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:45,479
Then he turns into this cool dude
who invents super weapons and rides around on

742
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,520
a motorcycle and just like sleeps with
chicks. Right, That's what happens to

743
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,479
Charlie. And then Charlie reverts to
being a slow boy. But Charlie might

744
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,880
be based on Flowers for Alderman.
But I know that the movie I'm talking

745
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,039
about Charlie because here is the actual
movie. I'm put it in the chat

746
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:05,520
for you right here. Oh yeah, remember John Travolta Limitless that Mavie was

747
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:13,760
so stupid. I forgot about phenomena
with John Travolta. Right, anyway,

748
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:23,560
so Jeremy renner Is had his genome
altered. In the craziest part is where

749
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,760
Rachel Weiss, who's the science woman, right, boss lady science Girls,

750
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:32,520
shout out, shout out to my
boss lady leaning in science Girls, Science

751
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:40,880
Girls rule the world. She goes
into this wild story about yes, shout

752
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:44,479
out to patristic faith. We have
actually covered lawnmar Man. We had a

753
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,640
blast covering lawnmar Man because it has
a slowboy who turns into a smart boy.

754
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:53,520
In fact, he turns into a
demon godboy. Right, better to

755
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,479
be a slowboy than to be an
intelligent demon god in the in the metaverse,

756
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,880
right, That's that's what was it? Lawnmower Man. We have fun,

757
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,439
by the way, covering lawnmoor Man. That's a classic MODS if you

758
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,760
would, by the way, see
if you guys can find when we covered

759
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:15,159
lawnmoor Man. Um, what was
going on with Edward Norton. I'm trying

760
01:15:15,159 --> 01:15:18,640
to remember, Oh oh no,
So Rachel Weis gives this explanation for how

761
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:24,920
this program works. I didn't I
didn't even get it. But it was

762
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,560
like, this sounds like the coup
or something right, like it sounds like

763
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,760
what they were doing at wu Han, which just starts explaining what they do

764
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:38,520
with their lab. I'm not joking. And then turns out they're gonna get

765
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,159
rid of her. And this was
a crazy part which I probably can't really

766
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:46,640
say too much about, but one
of the scientists in the lab, it

767
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:53,199
turns out in this installment is wound
up and mind controlled to go on a

768
01:15:54,560 --> 01:16:00,600
SHO O t I n G spree
in the science lab taking out all the

769
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:08,199
scientists because that's they're shutting down everything
to do with Treadstone project, so that

770
01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:12,000
means getting rid of all the people
involved in it, including Rachel bis.

771
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,039
Anyway, Jeremy Renner is there at
Rachel Biss's house. Great timing. He

772
01:16:16,119 --> 01:16:20,079
just helps to show up when she's
going to be killed and kills all the

773
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:24,600
bad guys, saves her. And
he need my fix, right, he

774
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:30,319
needs his heavy pills, He needs
his neuotropic nanotech super soldier or assassin pills.

775
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,479
Well, she doesn't have any where
they at They're in Manila. What

776
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:39,319
yes, let's fly to Manila,
fly to Asian countries where they got labs

777
01:16:39,359 --> 01:16:44,399
where they're doing bioweapons. Interesting exactly, he went postal, Right, that

778
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:50,640
was the nineties thing science Beta.
So socience man goes postal and they actually

779
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:56,039
explained that he was wound up and
triggered to do that. That was crazy.

780
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,520
Anyway, A long story short turns
out one of the key government figures

781
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:06,079
running this project. I don't remember
the actor's name, but he clearly he's

782
01:17:06,119 --> 01:17:09,439
a Cheney esque character. I thought
that was interested. So they have a

783
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:14,840
guy who literally looks like Cheney with
the CIA head running the Treadstone project.

784
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,119
And shout out to our girl bosses
out there, right, former operative Landry,

785
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:24,520
who's going to expose this. It's
gonna be just get the word out,

786
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,960
right, because that's how it works. You get the word out and

787
01:17:28,079 --> 01:17:31,079
then it all crashes down to crumbles. Is that really how it works?

788
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,840
The virus here, I'm trying to
understand the logic of this so called virus

789
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:55,079
technology right in the story. Somehow
Renter had been given some genetic altering virus

790
01:17:55,279 --> 01:18:00,760
and that turned him into the two
point zero Jason two point zero. And

791
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,800
she actually explains that where they were
doing these operations. This is in the

792
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:10,520
screenplay is that Fort Dietrich. That's
crazy because Fort Dietrich is where they continue

793
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:19,600
mk ultra according to John Marks in
his old classic book. So clearly Robert

794
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:25,119
Ludlam has read this book because he's
including obscure details in that book in this

795
01:18:25,359 --> 01:18:32,720
story. Whatever virus or whatever nanotech
thing that Renter has been given has made

796
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:39,039
his abilities to be permanent. However, if he undoes this, I guess

797
01:18:39,079 --> 01:18:42,159
we're supposed to think he would revert
back to being a slow, slowboy.

798
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:50,279
I don't know, but she says
it's genomic targeting. So the stabby targets

799
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:59,319
the genome and can turn you into
a you know, been Affleck in the

800
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:05,000
Accountant, right, super spurgus assid
like we covered in that movie, right,

801
01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:09,680
or presumably it can do all kinds
of other things. And so this

802
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,319
one. The only criticism I have
of that installment is that it ends super

803
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:20,840
abruptly for no reason, with them
running away and they're floating on a Filipino

804
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:27,039
barge and they're just like eating lunch. They're eating noodles or something, and

805
01:19:27,079 --> 01:19:31,800
it's like that's it. Well,
so is Treadstone ended or like? So,

806
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,800
I guess I'm gonna think there's gonna
be another one, And there was

807
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,399
another one which was not very good. I fell asleep in that one.

808
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,560
So I'm sorry, Matt, dad
boy, but I fell asleep in your

809
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:45,760
movie. I don't know what's to
tell you. So there we go.

810
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,079
All the elements that we would expect, and much more. I didn't expect

811
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:58,000
the nuances with the genome stuff.
I didn't expect the nuances with the second

812
01:19:58,039 --> 01:20:01,199
installment and all the Russian angle with
the Russian oligarchs. That was all pretty

813
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:05,640
much based in reality as far as
I could tell. Let's say a couple

814
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:11,680
of other books. If you're looking
for an introductory book that's newer than the

815
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,520
two boward, this one's okay.
It's a it's a kind of a written

816
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:20,159
as a really a pop introductory level
to these topics. We just covered,

817
01:20:20,199 --> 01:20:26,800
as you guys know, Brave New
World, which is obviously more and more

818
01:20:27,119 --> 01:20:30,680
talking about the top these topics than
I've ever realized. Right. We just

819
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:36,680
broke this down a full chapter by
chapter breakdown with quite frankly, which is

820
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,640
on my channel for subscribers, so
check that out. And yeah, absolutely,

821
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,720
it's this is one percent about him. Children. There's another famous text

822
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,600
too, by Intelligence writer Gordon Thomas. He's written many intelligence based texts.

823
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:55,920
His book is Journey into Madness.
That's a well known one, and then

824
01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:02,000
there's another one called Monarch of the
New Phoenix program Um. That one's okay.

825
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:08,560
So those are some other texts if
you're looking for introductory topics to this.

826
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:13,640
This one is really good, but
it's hard to find. You can

827
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,680
never get it. It's always out
of print because it's nineteen ninety eight.

828
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,319
But there you go. There's some
other ones too. There's also, as

829
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:27,279
we said, the Colin Ross doctor
Colin Ross has a book about the CIA

830
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:32,039
doctors. And there is the Jose
Delgado book, which eventually we need to

831
01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:35,560
cover Jose Delgado's book. I mean, this would be a classic right there,

832
01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:42,439
right this thing, because that's that's
a prize right there. I bet

833
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,960
you can't even get that thing.
Somehow Jamie found this copy at an old

834
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:50,920
bookstore somewhere, and I bet you
money you can't find that book. I

835
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,560
don't know, but usually these old
like this is the same publisher of the

836
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,439
Salk books right World Perspectives. They
published the two Jonah Salt some books that

837
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,239
I have which nobody can ever find, and everybody emails week, we're going

838
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get those books. I don't have
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And then they're like, it's your
fault. You mentioned these books and then

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they go from five thousand dollars on
Amazon now books go out of print.

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870
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interview we've ever done. Huge,
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ever talked to other than Lord Baltimore
today crazy. So look for that coming

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up in two weeks. You want
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Somebody want to hint. Here's your
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Yeah, we do a little thing
there. Everybody's happy by being buddah

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boom. Who's that? Who do
you think? Who you think that might

878
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be? There's a little hint.
Anyway, it's a great interview, wild

879
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conversation. Let's go to the super
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Thank you guys for these super chests
and so much so much thanks to Laurie

883
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who threw in a super chat at
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884
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Sixty dollars. Thank you so much, she says, once again, good

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stuff, keep up the good work. Well you ended up winning that day.

886
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Is a super chat there, because
I think you had the biggest one

887
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that day. Yes, you did. Thank you so much, Laurie,

888
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much appreciated. Sixty bucks. Let's
see next one is lost my place?

889
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,479
Yukon Cornelius. That's a name right
there. Five dollars. Can you review

890
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:27,640
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer? I
assume that's a joke. I make a

891
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:32,319
cameo? What? How do you
make a cameo? It would be an

892
01:26:32,359 --> 01:26:36,479
honor to be featured. Are you
talking about that old claimation? How do

893
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,680
you make it? How do you
make a joking? Dude? I hid

894
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,920
kroleing Easter eggs? Okay, I
think this is a joke, but okay,

895
01:26:45,279 --> 01:26:49,279
Turbo Diesel. Five dollars. Will
you be debating the fish Tank members

896
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,239
with text to speech? So Sam, Hide's a reality show I think has

897
01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:59,840
started. It's called fish Tank,
So check that out. It looks funny.

898
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,720
I don't think I'll be debating those
people, though, but that's an

899
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:08,840
interesting idea. Cyril Oppenheimer ten dollars
I just had chrismation. I was received

900
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,680
into Orthodoxy. Hey, great to
hear that. Shout out to you for

901
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,239
being a part of guiding me well. Much appreciated. Cyril Oppenheimer, a

902
01:27:15,319 --> 01:27:19,520
long time super chatter, a long
time supporter. I'm glad to hear the

903
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:25,840
good news. Man Constantine menial trauma
fifteen dollars. I have two questions,

904
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,880
how does Orthodoxy justify the use of
violence? Well, number one, I

905
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,239
don't think there is a justification of
it. We want to be violent.

906
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:42,239
In canon law, violence is frowned
upon. But it's not the Orthodox justifying

907
01:27:42,399 --> 01:27:46,199
violence. It's that God gives us
the right to self defense, and God

908
01:27:46,319 --> 01:27:51,000
gives families and nations the right to
self defense. So you could go read

909
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:57,960
the Russian Church's statement on Social Order, and you can go to road course

910
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,720
Studies and read the Russian of our
Church and war Christianity and war articles.

911
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:09,800
What about the case of capital punishment, I mean Roma's thirteen says that there

912
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,880
should be capital punishment, So I
don't know what's the problem there. What

913
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,119
do you think about preppers. I
think it's a good idea and why it

914
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:20,119
is to prep but I don't go
crazy with preppers stuff. But I do

915
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:24,640
think it's a wise idea to have
storable food, to be, you know,

916
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,960
living off the grid as sufficient as
you can. I don't mean off

917
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:33,479
the grid like run to the hills
and have a shack, become a prospector

918
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:39,199
and run around and brown nasty underwear
with a flap on the back. That's

919
01:28:39,239 --> 01:28:43,039
not what I'm talking about. Maybe
you want to do that. I don't

920
01:28:43,039 --> 01:28:48,800
care you do, go do it
whatever. But I mean all my most

921
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,880
a lot of my friends, I'm
most. I don't know how many friends

922
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:58,399
are into homesteady. It seems like
a wise decision, especially if you have

923
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,840
a family, right. But I
would definitely be out of blue cities.

924
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,720
But I don't think you gotta,
you know, live in a shack in

925
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:11,199
the millin nowhere. Jesse Marosco seven
forty seven, God, bless you,

926
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:14,239
Jay, thank you so much.
Seven forties. That's an odd price,

927
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:20,720
seven forty seven JJ five dollars.
Interesting that they chose Paul Greenrass to later

928
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:27,079
direct you nineteen ninety three. Oh, I remember seeing that propaganda movie that

929
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:33,800
was terrible, and it did Paul
Greenrass. Did he which one did he

930
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:43,279
do? Did he do? Multiple? Multiple? Born movies. I didn't

931
01:29:43,279 --> 01:29:47,880
even think to look at who was
the director? Okay, so Troy Tony,

932
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,560
Gilroy, Paul green Grass, Doug
Lyman. Interesting, and did y'all

933
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,680
watch the one with Matt Dadbod?
Was that a flop? The last one?

934
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,800
Let's see what it did, the
twenty sixteen one. I watched it

935
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:09,880
and I remember falling asleep because like
him and Julia Stiles and Vincent cassell when

936
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,920
does Vincent Casselle not play a douchebag
killer, Like that's the only role he

937
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,359
can ever play, Like you want
to be a killer, or you want

938
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:20,560
to be a French douchebag or a
French douchebag killer, that's the only role.

939
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:27,760
Like he's typecast forever. As that
had some big names though, Alicia

940
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:32,479
Viknder from X Maschina, Tommy Lee
Jones. But was it a success?

941
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:38,800
Let's find out the budget on that
one. It was interesting, So it

942
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,239
was actually a big hit. It
cost one hundred twenty million and it made

943
01:30:42,399 --> 01:30:49,439
four hundred million. So old Matt
Dadbod got him a He got a billion

944
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:56,479
dollar franchise. So what Yeah,
so the Born franchise is a one point

945
01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:01,319
six billion dollars franchise. Wow,
and Old Baffleck got him one too,

946
01:31:01,399 --> 01:31:08,479
didn't he? And this one surprised
me. But the ben Affleck Batman's were

947
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:14,000
also a huge I would have I
thought they were like failures or something,

948
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:19,079
but I didn't realize. No,
actually those are like mega he made like

949
01:31:19,359 --> 01:31:27,399
five that not he But there's like
five hundred million dollars made on the first

950
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:32,119
one. I think, where even
is that? I'm trying to find it

951
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:38,600
and I can't. All I want
to see is the freaking ben Affleck Batman.

952
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:43,239
They're pulling up like t R a
n S actors in film. I

953
01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:45,680
don't want to see that. That's
not what I'm looking for. What the

954
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:51,279
heck? Let's see Batman versus Superman. Let's try this and what it didn't

955
01:31:51,279 --> 01:31:58,359
make? Batman versus Superman Dawn of
Justice. That sounds corny, Yeah,

956
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,800
dude, check that out. I've
never even watched this because I thought this

957
01:32:03,039 --> 01:32:05,880
this, this sounded terrible. Where
are they actually good? I don't even

958
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:12,560
know. The budget was two hundred
and fifty three hundred and it made almost

959
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:18,680
a billion. So just the Batman
versus Superman with Old Bafflex almost made a

960
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:27,279
billion dollars that's crazy. So you
think that the Bafflex are the worst Batman's

961
01:32:27,399 --> 01:32:34,199
interesting since George Clooney, Uh,
is that the one with Edward p Enigma.

962
01:32:34,399 --> 01:32:39,920
No, that's Val Kilmer. But
did Actually, if you go back

963
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:45,520
and watch the Jim Carrey Batman,
I think we covered it. That's about

964
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:54,079
TV mind controlling everybody. Do you
guys remember that? Because Edward p Enigma

965
01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:59,840
is like a homo erotics soy science
man who has a crush on Val Kilmer,

966
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,680
you don't notice that until you go
I mightn't watch. It's like what

967
01:33:02,079 --> 01:33:06,239
And then Val Kilmer is like Val
Kilmer's like Elon Musk, like this big

968
01:33:06,319 --> 01:33:12,039
tech guru guy, right, and
he's like he just disses Edward p Enigma

969
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:20,199
Enigma and it causes soy rage in
Edward p Enigma, and so he devises

970
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:27,199
the idea to use signals through the
TV to mind control everyone in Gotham and

971
01:33:27,279 --> 01:33:32,680
it works. Interesting. Interesting,
So go back and watch your Your Vowel,

972
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:38,560
Your Vowel Classics. By the way, we did a vowel installment that

973
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:40,880
was a lot of fun. Or
I did it. I think it was

974
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,920
just me. Jamie went there for
that. It was just me. The

975
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:48,399
Val Kilmer Special, and I did
one of my favorites, the classic The

976
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:54,479
Saint. That's a classic, one
of my favorite movies. So if you

977
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:59,399
didn't see the Vowel installment, go
watch that. What did we do there?

978
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,399
I did Man, The Saint and
Spartan Willow, So that was actually

979
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:09,359
a qua triple feature. I think
I added an extra one on there.

980
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,680
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1003
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,880
guys, so much. A lot
of fun there we have it. The

1004
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Born movies. I don't think we
miss anything with skipping the final Matt Dad

1005
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Bond installment, even though it was
actually it looks like a big hit.

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I didn't realize that, but how
did it end? Did he end up

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with Julia Stiles or something. I'm
a guessing. I'm guessing that's what I

1008
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don't know. But if you guys
would hit like and share, Hey,

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we got good ideas for new installments
coming. I'm thinking we haven't done mel

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Gibson installment. And there's some classic
mel Gibson conspiracy films conspiracy theory, like

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the most famous Hollywood conspiracy movie with
Mel Gibson. Why we not, Well,

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it's in my book I did cover
in Star Hollywood. However, we've

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not done a podcast on it because
there's just something about you gotta wait for

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the right time. Do you wait
for the right time and then it comes

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about and then you say, hey, let's do conspiracy theory. Let's do

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Edge of Darkness also a conspiracy movie, really good mel Gibson movie. We

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did do All the Mad Maxes.
That was part of our dystopian series.

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So we've already done all the Mad
Maxes. So we're gonna find some other

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mel Gibson's. Now. We might
tack on the classics like Braveheart and Apocalypto,

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or we might keep it at conspiracy
mel Gibson or I'm thinking I want

1021
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to. Jamie had a guy idea, let's just do Apocalypto, Braveheart,

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conspiracy theory, and Edge of Darkness, which is interesting. What do you

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guys think? Let me know what
movies you'd like to see analyze next below