The shot, the shot of the chapters on the front of the Shore,
the shot shot the Shore, the song before the show, the Shove,
the Sunny Place, Shows, the show, the shot shot one of them,
I shore shot, a shot shot the show before the Shore, the
show, a shower, show, the show, the slow remember the section
before before the flats of the whole of the Black and all Right, what's
up? Welcome, long requested. Jamie. Unfortunately didn't feel like being with
me tonight. She's a little sore. She had a a little bit of
a minor poland surge operation. She had a xenomorph removed from her belly.
Just kidding. She did have a minor surgery and no big deal. She's
a little sore, so she's good, no worries, but she was not
up to the live stream. We thought maybe she would feel like it,
but not tonight. So it's just me boring old Me and my new lesbian
wine aunt Glasses and bonus lesbian aunt HARDU. So welcome, big big interview
today, probably I actually believe it or not, next to Lord Voldemart.
Today we had long conversation with I don't want to say who yet, but
probably the biggest figure that I've talked to, and it was pretty wild.
We talked for about an hour and a half. That'll be up in a
few weeks, but man, it was crazy. So and I'm not talking
about Tucker. That was cool. I didn't actually talk to Tucker when we
did that. I was on the documentary as you guys saw, and Tucker
introduced it and he did mention me and whatnot. So that's definitely cool,
super awesome, super thankful for all that. But this is a totally different
situation. This is uh, this was wild, man, I don't know.
It was a wild conversation. A lot of the research stuff you've heard
me talking about, a lot of it was pretty much confirmed by this individual,
particularly particularly in the domains of theories about what happened with Marilyn Monroe,
what happened with JFK, what happened with RFK, what happened with a lot
of those individuals, and you know, not just that, but what about
movies and the way that those or events have been portrayed. Right, It
was pretty wild. So look for that. It's gonna be crazy, you
guys are you guys are gonna be surprised. This was This is not what
you are probably expecting. So we're branching out doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
And that's one of the challenges I think of what we do because I
was watching these videos that tell you how you're supposed to do it on YouTube,
and it's like, oh, you have to corner a nish, corner
a nish. But that's the problem is that we don't do it that way.
So no, you're not gonna lose brain cells. We don't. I'm
not interested. I don't want to corner a nish. I want to talk
about all the things I'm interested in, not just one thing. Right,
So I'm just giving little leaks and you know, little teasers, right that
this is the most famous person I've talked to today. It was crazy.
I mean next to Lord Voldemort. Right, So I'm not counting Lord Valdimot
because you know we're on there every Friday. We did that what a month
ago, we did that whole two hour special right next to Lord Voldemort.
It's just gonna blow your way. It's gonna blow your minds. That's that's
all I'm trying to say. I'm hyping it up because it really will live
up to the hype. I couldn't believe we had this conversation. I was
blown away, and uh, you know, it's just another level, layer
and level of vindication that hey, you know, you got people who know
what they're talking about saying, yeah, okay, you a lot of what
you said sounds good. So there we go tonight. Though we have never
delved into I don't even know why. I'm not sure why we never got
into Matt Dadbod because we did a lot of Bathleck over the years, right,
we talked about the Baston retads, fast Retaddeck and it got so Boston
retired that at one point Bathleck actually plays a retired assassin when we covered the
Accountant and the dang Algorithm just didn't like that Bathle stream. But the Baffle
Extream, I promise you it's really good. That Baffle Extream is worth watching.
And I don't know what we talked about why why the album didn't like
it, But I mean we talked about some cool stuff in there, because
there was a lot of hints and a lot of little nods and things that
are dropped right in the Baffle Stream, particularly the propaganda for example, around
Pearl Harbor. The elements of Baffleck when he's an assassin right where they basically
just took Jason Bourne James Bond and said let's make him a Spurg nine thousand.
That's what the accountant was. That was wild because it's sort of like
they're normalizing us in a conditioning. It's right, I gotta sipping jog.
You all know that I did make a funny little crunch Corp video where I
was singing about I put I filled it up with with odd brown liquids and
I was sipping it when all it was was like molasses and there it made
it look all weird and brown. I gotta sipping jug and I'll sip it.
Oh well night. So that's a good freaking cringe corps idea there,
what do you guys think of that? If you would hit like and share,
Let's back back to Bourne. Back to Bourne. So I'm thinking we
got to do this because it's been requested and we've never done it. Right
now, I gotta check with some real quick because I never looked to see
was Robert Ludlum's background in intelligence. I don't know, but probably because this
is one of those things where you know, typically we find that people that
write these site these types of stories have a background in intelligence work, not
always, but quite often. So is that the case with Robert Ludlum.
So it says that he was educated at various universities of calah blah blah blah
drama. Okay, so nothing odd or interesting there. He studied drama theater.
Well, that's interesting. Now we know that actors and theater people have
been oftentimes recruited into eligience. So not much to that very possible, but
it doesn't look like there's much information, not a lot on Robert Ludlam when
you go look up his biography. Basically just famous for the Born movies.
Now they made eighties or like a nineteen nineties Born movie, do you know
that? And one of the reasons that we have to we have to cover
him is that one of the things you'll notice is that the novels do and
the movies do revolve around conspiracy theories. And it's even mainstream right, Like,
it's known that his novels all involved to some degree real conspiracies. That's
why we're covering it. In fact, Ludlam himself wrote that the Mattery Circle
was inspired by the history of the Trilateral Commission. And as you know,
we are currently working through the Patrick woodbook Trilaterals over Washington, that he wrote
a long time ago with Anthony Sutton, because we cover the other Anthony Sutton
books and you guys, I did a poll and you guys mainly said let's
do that next. So that's interesting because apparently Ludlum was aware of Trilateral Commission
and this kind of stuff. So again, very odd that you have this
theater dude who seems to know about some pretty high level stuff, given that
he was writing this novel which I've not read, in nineteen seventy nine.
So in nineteen seventy nine he was writing about the Trilateral Commission. That's crazy.
In that book called the Matayse Circle. Now there's another one too that
he wrote way ahead of time about t R R O R TERSH and that
was called The hull Croft Covenant in nineteen seventy eight, and that has o'kine
Casa movie with Michael Kine and the whole Craft Covenant Marshall White. Now I
think that but that relates to you know, kind of like standard Fair,
a little tiny mustache man networks, right, which is kind of overplayed.
There were so many if you look at movies and novels spy novels from the
nineteen fifties up into the seventies, I mean, there was just so many
because that you could make movies about that, right, that's approved. You
could make a few thousand movies and novels about underground you know, galen organization
networks and all that. So, and that's a real that is a real
thing. It's just kind of like overdone. It's like, come on,
it's not. That's not running everything in the world. That's one element of
understanding the twentieth century and its conspiracies. But it is interesting again to note
that Robert Ludlam of Jason Bourne fame wrote so often about conspiracy. There's in
it notes that, for example, whether them being isolated bands of ideological or
politically motivated extremists, typically in Ludlum stories, the individuals are pawns of giant
government, private organization groups that are intent on establishing an authoritarian superstate. So
we do have reference to basically the in wo And there's a ton of these.
I mean, there's like a fricking zillion of these. Now I'm not
covering tonight, the the twenty sixteen Matt Dad Bought installment because it was not
that good. It was kind of boring, So we're only covering the first
four. I did still kind of like the Jeremy Renner episode. That one
was pretty good. And we're going to get to the details and how I
think that throughout the Born movies we actually have references to quite a few real
things. So we're doing a classic esoteric Collywood type of thing tonight, and
I'll be showing you a lot of the books that I think identify these real
programs and today obviously because you guys, as you guys know, the real
documents of m culture are pretty sparse in the sense of we only have some
of those, but there's a lot of authors, a lot of people are
written on this, and we've lectured through at least one, two, three,
three or four of the main texts in on my channel, so you
guys should be familiar with that. But back to Bourne. Let's get to
the main issue here. If you guys would hit like and share shout out
on a nice balmy Tuesday night, every night's balmy. I just always say
it's balming. It could be two degrees outside. It's a balmy two degrees
tonight. It is actually warm, and thank God for that. It's so
sick of all the cold. We've got a nice three hundred and twenty people.
Welcome, everybody, all you chat nerds, hit like and share.
So I remember at the time watching when this game came out, and it's
like, Okay, they're gonna introduce a new spy franchise. Right, we
all know about James Bond, we all know about Tom Coom. He's got
mission impossible. Well, old Matt, dadbod he needs, get him a
dang spy thriller franchise. And it worked, so he got a he had
a successful one. I think when you get to that level, right,
you want to you want a franchise because that's what's gonna, you know,
be the big bucks. So A Born Identity came out in two thousand and
two. This is a significant for the date. So we're one year after
the Big nine event. And you will notice as a mini films during that
time period Illustrated it was actually a pretty hot button topic at that time to
talk about and critique the Bush expansionist agendas. It was pretty standard to be
anti war throughout Hollywood. Plenty of people in journalists and media were critical and
anti war at that time, and so this was when there was this kind
of rational approach still existing amongst what people thought was the left at that time,
okay, or people who thought they were left right. And you did
begin to have right after the Big Nine event, some of the earliest questioners
of the Big Nine event. So it's very interesting that this came out at
the time when there was the beginning swell of the major criticisms of the Big
Nine event. And we're also right at prior to and at the beginning of,
you know, the expansion into the Middle East, right, Oh,
we gotta go get you know, Afghanistan, we got invade, we gotta
do this and that because of the Big Nine event. Now, as you
guys know, we've covered James Bond at nauseum. Going to talk about Bond
too much, but do remember that Bond is a trained assassin. That is
the actual job of Bond. He's not just a spy. He's not just
doing surveillance. He's not just you know, saving Western civilization by as an
old white man finally going to his death in no time to die. That
was the symbolism of that, right, he's also a trained assassin, and
that's actually what the double O status means, all right. He gets his
double O status because he's trained in all the arts and techniques of assassinating.
And this is based, as we know, on various figures that Ian Flaming
himself knew in real life, as well as some of the things that Ian
Flaming had been involved in. So in this case, though, the focus
is much more on the trained assassin program. So there's room about this,
and I think there is truth to that, right. I Mean, we
don't have all of what the mculture programs were, but it does seem pretty
obvious that, yeah, certainly they would have been involved in programs to create
assassins. Sure. And one of the reasons they would be involved in that
was not just the stories that we have from doctor Esther Brooks about the trigger
code with the hidden information and the altars and being able to bring it forth
with the key words, right, that was one of the first things that
was published by doctor Estherbrooks on mpdd I D in relation to the MK programs,
but also the idea of getting people to overcome the moral compunctions that they
might have right to these kinds of activities. And if you're the military,
you want to train perfect killers, obviously, so how do we do that,
How do we train the moral the perfect killer that doesn't have moral qualms?
And what are all the techniques that might be used? And obviously one
of the first things that comes to mind is that we know this existed in
Vietnam. It was the Phoenix program. We've covered this with Dave McGowan's books,
We've covered it with the Douglas Valentine book. We went through the Phoenix
program, and that's why Dave was motivated to Right Program to Kill. Right.
Everybody's heard of this. These are some of the you know, the
classics tonight. We all know about this one. We've talked about this book
too. Right Program to Kill where we get Dave mcgallan talking about not just
the Phoenix Program, but how many of the seventies and eighties serial killers came
back, typically from some form of military training, some form of Vietnam era
training, and perhaps my control programs, etcetera, etcetera. So there seems
to be a connection there. And I think that you know, whatever Ludlam
knew to some degree, he knew about this, right, And it's very
plausible too, because remember that two of the most famous MK ultra books that
are you know, the cannon when it comes to mcultra that we have covered.
You have a Bowarts book Operation Mind Control, that came out in nineteen
seventy eight I think, yeah, seventy eight. And then the one that's
very similar to Bowarts book, which is the John Marks techt text on CIA
Mine Control and Mentoring Candid. All right, so those are the classics,
and this the John Marks book came out in nineteen eighty, so two years
after the Bowart book. Right. You've got these two seminal texts on MK
in Dave's book, this was like two thousand and two, so not too
long after the Big nine event. So one of the things that we have
to discuss is the theory. And I don't know for sure if there's a
document that proves this, it's just kind of a prevailing theory. Is the
idea of the delta and I think this comes from the idea of delta force.
Right. So delta force obviously special operations guys that are trained to go
in and do you know crazy stuff. Extraction mission sabotage assassination. Right,
So we know, for example, in Vietnam, a lot of Green Berets
are recruited into being taught how to be these kind of assassins, all right,
And so you get people recruited into Delta force, and everybody knows about
Navy seals, right, similar types of things. So the idea here is
that there's a specific Greek letter coding as the theory goes behind the various types
of programmed individuals. Again theory, but probably isn't a document somewhere. I
just don't know exactly what the source document is because most of this comes from
journalists and people writing many years later and people going from other people's testimonies.
Right. So again still somewhat in the realm of theory. But as one
of the classic writers on this topic, I'm sure everybody's heard of Jim Keith.
This is one of the classics. This is the first book I ever
read on this topic, many many years ago, is Jim Keith's book Mass
Control Engineering Human Consciousness. And I'm not advocating everything that Jim Keith ever said.
He was an odd character, but Jim Keith wrote this in nineteen ninety
nine, and later on he actually makes a connection that is going to be
familiar to you guys, because we just covered this, he says, and
he's citing from various psychiatrists. Hammond is one quarter on quarter quarter on Hammond,
I think is his name, doctor Hammond. Whose theory an analysis based
on a lot of people that he treated, is that there seems to be
a connection between the types of people that are that we're in this program and
the listing of the names in Brave New World. Now it doesn't match up
exactly, but just as we saw in Brave New World you had alpha's,
beta's, gammas, deltas, and epsilons, there's a similar pattern with the
structure of those that are that we're involved in the various programs to create different
types of people. So the theory runs this that the first level is alpha,
that is general mind control or the base level of programming in the subject,
characterized by augmented memory and perhaps the splitting of the mind between the left
and the right or other types of creating of altars right beta programming. This
relates perhaps to sex operations, as in beta sex kittens, or the idea
of sex operatives. Then we got gamma, which is the level provided mind
control involving to option, misdirection and subterfuge, Delta being the assassin type of
program, And so then it goes on to other theoretical levels which may or
may not exist, and then he talks about some other doctors that are written
on this in terms of mind control. So again theory, but it would
seem logical given that Delta force does seem to engage in this, and so
the connection at least loosely seems to be the case. And if you remember,
I didn't notice this until the last time I watched Bond the No Time
to Die, this actually is referenced the Greek letters or referenced in No Time
to Die. In fact, at the end they give the Black Chick and
Daniel Craig, they're notice they're picked out by PSI and Phi right, and
in No Time to Die there's multiple references to various Greek letters, and my
guests would be that it's referring to this. So, although I don't know
if the novels themselves list Jason Bourne as a Delta, everything that's in the
storyline is basically that, and you are correct. Whoever made the comment a
few comments back. I have not watched these since the two thousands, so
I wasn't sure what to expect. I thought, you know, I've learned
and read tons more than I knew in two thousand, two, five,
seven, and twelve when these came out, so surely I'm going to see
and notice a lot more. And of course absolutely one percent. It turns
out this is absolutely a storyline about mcultra Delta assassins and the notion of creating
altars and creating distinct personalities with missions, and it even ties into elements that
you wouldn't expect that we're gonna get into tonight, like the Russian geopolitical situation.
I suspect that when he wrote or when the second one came out,
which was two thousand and five Barn Supremacy, did you notice that that dealt
with certain Russian oligarchs and that the CI had made alliances with certain Russian oligarchs
because they were getting scared due to this program leaking in the storyline, I'm
saying, and that matches up really closely to the time period when Putin was
booting certain oligarchs from Russian who then went to the UK. So it's just
very curious that again, as you're watching these upon reflection, it's like,
hey, that's like that, that happened at that time. Hey, this
is like that thing. This is like that even to the point when we
get a Guardian journalist. And by the way, in the two thousands,
the Guardian actually was doing pretty good journalism. Right. We have some friends
that rope for the Guardian back at that time. This is before you know,
the last you know, ten years or so, when the Guardian went
like completely Now I'm not saying that I agree with everything the Guardian never wrote
in terms of but I'm saying like when they when the Guardian would cover stuff
like Snowden, wiki leagues, you know, spy stuff like they were typically
pretty good back at that time, and they were you know, they were
critique in Dubya and all the warmongering and all that kind of stuff, which
again you could do in Hollywood at that time. So let's get into barn
identity. We'll be here all night. We've been rambling on. I can't
ramble on night. By the way, if you want to support the show,
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Lorie. I'll cover that here in a minute. But the first thing we
noticed obvious classic conspiracy tropes here for mind control films. He's a soggy super
patrol soldier with a chip implant. No, here we go. The whole
thing kicks off of this and right away there's amnesia. So oh, he's
been under some sort of mind wife program. And uh, there's a curious
detail they threw in there. I don't know who this is supposed to refer
to. It could be too, you know, some of these uh African
dictators that had alliances with the CIA. But they threw in this this character
as an African war lord who's gonna write a book about the CIA, and
he's heard about Born and his book is going to expose Operation Treadstone. And
what is Operation Treadstone? Well, it is precisely this super soldier assassin program,
this Delta program. By the way, did you notice this od The
odd little detail they threw in there that when when Matt Dadbod gets back to
his apartment, he figures out where he's living at and he's got all he's
got nothing in there but basically a stack of passports. Shocker, every spy
maybe ever right, you've got twenty passports. Did you notice the name of
them was one of them was Michael Kane. One of the passports. His
alternate identity is John Michael Kaine, Dad badapp playing Joel Kaine. Please don't
try and do a Michael Kane accent. What is wrong with my Michael Kane
accent? Dash? Nothing wrong with that, mashta wine. That's that's an
excellent, older, older era Michael Kaine. The younger Michael Kane is not
as good. But you know that that's not a bad Michael Kane. And
if you if you don't agree that that's a great Michael Kane, I will
never talk to you again. So, uh, shocker. See how he
finds out, Oh he's loose. We don't want Operation treads n exposed,
because it turns out if Jason Bourne remembers his remember ees, right, if
he eats some member berries and he remembers who he is, that he's actually
David Webb, then uh, oh it's all it's all gone. The whole
thing's exposed, and we can't let this African war lord like a uh,
I just went blank on the African war lord that the CIA had, like
the most famous one that the CIA had alliance with. What what is that
guy's name? Time magazine actually used to have an article. Yeah, this
guy Charles Taylor. Okay, Charles Taylor was a CIA African war lord.
But I remember all the Coney stuff Coney twenty twelve. What a bunch of
bello. I was all fake, fake and gray. But Time magazine used
to have a great article about for many many years ago, about SEEIA dictators,
and they had a few of these African war lords on there. But
I can't remember who all they were. And then isn't it wild how Google
like the search doesn't even work anymore, Like you can't find anything anymore anyway,
some of these war lords obviously they had to make this alliance well in
this movie, so I don't know who he's supposed to be, right,
who he's supposed to represent. But by the way, if you want to
vote in twenty twenty four election, vote for Joseph Coney. Coney twenty twenty
four is that's what that's my recommendation. Um, yeah, he did have
the Obama camp heart all right, so they're worried operational tread zone is going
to be exposed. Now. The next interesting detail is that immediately the CIA
is able to activate assassins in all these various cities. So it's like,
Okay, is Jason Bourne going to Paris, France? Is he going to
Spain? Is he going? We got it? We got men, right,
we got dudes right away, just send a text message on an old
flip phone. Right, All the hitmen are. The hitmen are sitting around
watching cartoons, just waiting for that on the on their flip phone, waiting
for that ring tone. Remember then, the two thousand and two era ring
tones, and you know you got Doctor Dre and Snoop on your ring tone
in two thousand and two. R R R oh, CIA calling, I'm
activated. Time to turn off, time to turn off cartoons. I gotta
go kill Mad Dad Biden. Right, That's that's how it works in movies.
Literally, in movies, hitman just sitting around watching cartoons, that's it.
And you get a text moment, you get a text on your flip
phone activated. So literally they activate like six hitmen, and I totally forgot
that. Clive Owen is like the main hitmen in this one, right,
he's the foil too to Jason Bourne. And then, by the way,
did you notice the war lord in this The first thing I think of when
I see this warlord is why are you get he's that dude? Right?
Why are you gay? I am gay? You want gay? Right?
That's this war lord. Clive Owen Boom takes out the war lord. Then
he's then he's got a sightset on Jason Bore. So half of the movie
is basically Hitmen after Jason Bourne. By the way, it is a pretty
good movie. It holds up, it holds up right. This is a
little different though, because James Bond basically he just car chases assassin, fighting
and seducing women. That's basically all he does. But they added a lot
of h mcgiver Matt Geiver right to Burn. So Burn is over there,
you know, putting chewing gum and string and you know he's making bombs with
anything, and he continues all the way into the last one where he's like
where you got Jemmy Renter is like creating passports, you know, in a
bathroom with toilet paper and cellophane. I mean, how's he doing this?
But he does it right. I'm trying to Jamie's got such good penmanship that
it's so legible that I can't read it because I'm so used to trying to
hold my poor penmanship. Jamie has an interesting point, she said, did
you notice that the sun never shines throughout the entire movie until he reunites with
I guess she means Franca Potente and this is what that era to remember Run
Lola Run, and remember that was like her breakout role, which was actually
kind of an art film. That was Tom Tykever's earlier. I think that
was his first or second film, So that made Tom Tykever famous. Tyke
Vert does a bunch of things that are hits in Hollywood, not everything,
but a few things, and then he did Babble on Berlin. So interesting
connections there for the career of Franca Potente, who then goes from Run Lola
Run and plays the same kind of rave chick into so she's got like dyed
red rave chick here as apparently every chick, especially European girls, right from
like nineteen ninety seven to two thousand and three, they all look like Jennifer
Garner and Alias Right, they all got Rave you know, Rave chick.
So Matt dad bought. He's on the run with her. He's like,
hooks up with her. Oh yeah, she'll be my chick. Let's run
away, she can help me out. Um she gets involved in all this,
and then they hear about this other thing called the Black Briar program.
And we don't know what Black Briar is yet, but the film ends basically
with them running off, as is always the case, you run to shell
Beach, they think they've gotten away, and no turns out. How do
we end it with that same old freaking Mobi song. I didn't even remember
that it was a Mobi song in this do oh babe. Oh babe.
Then it fell apart, It fell apart, Oh babe, I don't even
remember. I've totally forgot the song. By the way, I love Mobi.
In the nineties, I was a huge Mobi fan, right, And
this is before Mobi acted all just insufferable, at least publicly, because you
know, in the nineties, you just buy CDs, you don't know everybody's
personal activism opinions. And then by the two thousands, then it go everybody's
an activists every every artist is some activists for some stupid cause, which is
annoying. But it ends with the Moby song, which I totally forgot.
Then fast forward a few years later, two thousand and five, this is
where we get into the weird Russian element. Now here's where I was surprised,
because I would have thought reviewing this film that, oh, here we
go a spy movie. Russians are the bad guys, and the CEI are
the good guys, and they're gonna save us from the evil Russians. It's
always the narrative. Actually, no, it's a little more complex than that.
So I was surprised again at the level of nuance that I guess Ludlum
allowed in the story or wanted in the story, and that somehow made it
into the movie. Because throughout the film it's not really big government Daddy,
Uncle Sam and the CIA. They're the good guys. So that's very that's
rare, right, It's it's it's more rare as we get up towards later,
because by the twenty tens, right when we start getting Chris Kyle movie,
when we get Zero Dark thirty, when we get Argo, the movies
are basically just total propaganda, but this series was actually critical, which is
surprising. And so you're watching you think, okay, here we go Russian
back. They're all Russian bad guys and they're gonna trying to kill Matt Damon.
I Actually there is one Russian assassin who is the Rohan horse Lord dude,
if you remember him from Lord of the Rings. He plays Kirill,
the Russian assassin, and there's this complex plot where Kirol is working with a
Russian oligarch and they are stealing money with a CIA guy from this program.
So they've actually stolen I don't know, twenty thirty million dollars from the CIA
and it relates to the funding of this tread Stone Blackbriar program. So,
as we said, Kirol is an FSB Russian intelligence operative who works for the
Russian oligarch Uri Gretkov, which is just made up, but again very odd
timing because right around this time is when Putin late nineties and early two thousands.
Putin actually did boot out certain oligarchs, so there really was this kind
of power play and these some of these Russian oligarchs were aligned with Western intelligence
at this time, so it's odd that this was loosely kind of hinted at
in the movie. I didn't expect any of that to be there. So
we had this Russian politician in the storyline, Vladimir and Nevsky, who was
about to identify the thief behind this stealing from the CIA program. And turns
out, what do you know, Old Matt Dadbod is who they sent to
take this guy out. So amasically, the Russians are not the bad guys
in this overall, and rather there are certain networks within the CIA that aligned
themselves with this Russian oligarch. And we find out that no, Matt Dadbod
was actually named David Webb. He was just some dude. And in the
novel, which I've not read all these, I read one Robert Ludlam story
many years ago. I was on a long trip. Actually I put it
on the audio and that had to do with that one seemed like propaganda.
I don't remember the name of it, but it didn't seem very regulatory.
But in this one in the novel, I was reading that this is this
is the crazy part. David Webb is actually just some shitty dude, right
that they brought into the program. So it's like a lafemdiquita type of story.
Let's just take a you know, shitty dude off of the street and
put him in the program and guess what turns out in Uh, the Jeremy
Renner installment. I was surprised that this turns out Jeremy Renter is a slow
boy. I was like, what, they're taking slowboys and putting them in
the day M culture program? What? What's what are we having that quirky?
Now the quirky program. You can't have Quirky out there taking people out,
niping people, giggling back there with the after he's sniping, popping heads,
right, Quirky's over there giggling. That doesn't seem right? And yet
right, what does it? What does the Jeremy Renter say? Oh?
I couldn't even get into the military, right, I was trying to get
into the army and my IQ was too How you got twelve points below to
get in the army? Bro? How did you put your pants on?
Dude? Right? And then he's like, I am part of tread Stone
two point zero. Now wait till we get to Treadstone two point z because
that's gonna blow your mind. I'll talk about the twenty twelve Jeremy Renter installment.
So anyway, there's not a whole lot in the two thousand and five
one except that you did have a nuance with all of this, and get
this. It actually does refer in this one that one of the code names
for David Webb was Delta, so it is Delta program. Interesting, so
it's a Sassin program. And on top of that, there's also something mentioned
in the third or fourth one I didn't expect actually in the screenplay, right,
because we watched these oftentimes right with you know, the subtitles on,
so it's like you get a better insight into what's actually usually in the screenplay.
Sometimes the subtitles a little different, but mostly it's right. So Jason
burrowin found Out is actually a killer with a long history of criminal activities.
This is exactly what we covered in Lafenikita. And this is actually partly true
too, because there have been programs where they recruited criminals for these kinds of
activities. For example, there is the Navy program that we covered in the
serial killer stuff, the Thomas Narrat Navy program about yeah, recruiting serial killers.
I can't pomb my SERI killer notes. They seem to have disappeared,
but uh yeah, anyway, that is one of the pieces of data that,
of course Dave McGowan mentions in program to kill them. So it turns
out, as we suspected, Jason Bourne was codenamed Delta. He was a
trained assassin. He was a criminal brought into this project, just like the
plot of Lafin Niketa, which we've done a whole podcast on go go listen
to our lafin Niketa podcast we did with uh sayop Cinema our buddies over there.
Um. So the CIA kills Jason Bourne his dad in Beirut, we
find out with a fake flag bomb attack. So it actually says a with
a fake flag bombam attack. I wrote that down. That was my notes,
So I think I mean, I think I mean by that note that
they actually mentioned a fake flag attempt bombing attemp. That's crazy. So this
is starting to piss off Born right because he's like, wait a minute,
you guys fake flag bomb my dad and then you guys put me to this
program and gave me a new identity, not by me adopting it, but
like you might controlled me to have a new identity as Jason Bourne, the
super Assassin, the super Soldier Assassin killer, and you wiped my memory of
David Webb. WHOA. So we're getting into total right alternate personality trauma based
mic control. All right, actual we moved to Jason Bourne. Three.
I want to remind you guys also do like and share and let me know
in the comments here in the chat at what you think I'm missing if I've
missed any details. Somebody said Blackfriar program. It seemed like that was a
joint DoD communication program in this story. So somebody said that's Iran contra.
I'm not sure if it's our rank contra. I don't know what you mean
by that. But if you guys do want to no, by fake blew
up, I don't mean that they faked the explosion. The explosion was real,
but it killed Bourne's dad, but it was blamed on someone else as
a fake flag. That's what I'm trying to say. I think that's what
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much. Now two thousand and seven, things are getting a little more interesting.
And one element that you don't pick up on until you go back and
watch those Oh that's an interesting point in this movie. Right, Jason Bourne
is David Webb in real life, but Jerry Renner plays Gary Webb, who
actually was taken out in the movie about Gary Webb exactly. That is interesting.
And I think, right the messenger, that messenger, that's Oliver Stone,
Right, I think so are so born three? Guess what the focus
here is? Now? The focus is NSA spine. Now I knew about
one that I learned about the NSA probably two thousand to right at the Big
nine event. I started learning a lot of stuff. And I knew about
conspiracy stuff in ninety eight, right because I'd read about the United Nations and
socialism and John Birch's level stuff. And then after the Big nine event that
woke a lot of people up to at that time. That's a lot of
people should have wait a minute, this isn't weird about this. And then
there was various information coming out through the two thousands from James Bamford, and
Bamford wrote the first book on the NSA in nineteen eighty two, Puzzle Palace,
and then he wrote other books that came out in the two thousand's,
like the one that talks about the nine to eleven hijackmen. That they had
been tracked and traced and followed the entire time. So this idea that we
had no idea is totally nonsense, given the fact that the NSA have been
watching these guys, and it didn't it just come out yesterday that oh yes,
it turns out that they were actually CIA guys mainstream news. Whoa you
mean what we knew for twenty years? Come on, dude, Come on
bro, if you guys would hit like and share, help me out here.
Come on. I was about to look some up and I forget what
it was anyway. Oh the Let's see, when do we first get wiki
leaks dumps? Right, this is when we first started hearing about this stuff
twenty right around this time, right, around this twenty ten, Yeah,
because I was following it closely at the time, and Wiki Leaks was at
that time sending stuff to Guardian. Thus, I mean other things too,
like their Spiegel and but Guardian was also very interested in wiki leaks back in
the twenty ten period, and there was the cables that were leaked. You
remember that the Diplomatic Cables League that was supposed to be a big deal in
twenty ten. I mean, I'm not saying that Wiki Leaks didn't league good
stuff at times, but a lot of the stuff too, Wasn't that that
earth shattering, I guess what we're saying. But I do think that over
time I did gain more respect for Juliana Sannge. I think that he was
generally trying to leak stuff eventually, and then not too long after that we
get Snowdon and so that's going to be around the time period of the twenty
twelve thing, and Snowdon tells us about Prism, right, Snowden leagues,
that's around twenty twelve, thirteen fourteen, trying to remember the exact date.
But a lot of that also I think was in the Guardian. Wasn't it
early on? Because I was maybe Snowden leagues were twenty fourteen, But I
was following Alex and all that, you know, since two thousand and three,
so I was watching all of this in real time and following. I
remember when Alex had Burghida Jones dot tier right who was working with a Sange
at the right right at the beginning, and Alex had Burghida Jones Dotier on
and they were they were doing interviews about wiki leaks at that time. So,
I mean, I've been following this of since Wikilees is first there.
But that is very much Those types of stories are very much what underlies Born
three, which is odd because again this is two thousand and seven, so
two thousand and seven Born three is very close to Snowden stuff and Asane stuff.
But when in the movie at the beginning, somebody mentions the term Operation
Blackbriar, the keyword search at the NSA is triggered, and they know,
hey, let's check out who's talking about this this program. Now, that's
not anything revelatory, right, even though I think prison from Snowden to talk
about that. But actually in Bamford's Puzzle Palace from nineteen eighty two, he
talks about keyword search technology in the eighties. So the NSA had keyword search
technology in the eighties, right, But even though that already existed in two
thousand and seven, in the movie, they're showing you that, Hey,
wait a minute, if there's keyword search, then why weren't the Big nine
event guys caught earlier? Yeah? Exactly. That's a great question, and
it's a question that even James Banford himself asked in this book on the NSA
is a two thousands era book on the NSA, which I read. What
is that book? I always forget this one. There's two different ones.
Well, I mean, he's reading a bunch of books, but I'm saying
it's not a body of secrets. That was two thousand and one. Shadow
Factory, that's it. Shadow Factory is one year after Born three. So
there you go, and that is about Hey, wait a minute, where
was the NSA with all the Big nine guys that we know they knew everything
about him? So what the heck? Well, it starts to get more
interesting and Born three, because not only do we have the Snowden a Prism
program, WikiLeaks style stuff going on, and the mentioning of Echelon by the
way Echelon is real. So Echelon is a real program, and it was
eschelon. If I recall that Bamford mentions had actually triggered and listened to,
you know, like Muhammad Ata these guys also at this time, what you
guys will forget about unless you were paying attention to all the stuff. Do
you guys remember how often people talked about rendition? This was a huge thing.
And who was that Bush era guy? Was it John U? Not
John Wu? It would have been better, was John Wu, because then
we would have had some action and we would have had Tom Kom and John
Van Dam jumping up on motorcycles and doing flips, you know, John Wu,
John U. Right, he was the bush era guy that argued for
why we gotta have t O R T U R E. This is a
huge debate in the two thousands. So all these movies started coming out,
right, there's even a movie with the one of the films with the Donnie
Darko Jake Jellin, all right, he's in one of these movies where they're
questioning the rendition programs because it comes it comes out, Oh hey, uncle
Sam's got all these rendition programs. And then then it's a debate about well,
but is waterboarding actually t O R T R. Right? Remember all
this, do you guys remember the two thousands. This is a huge deal.
There's all these debates and all these news stories. Then it comes out
about Guantanamo Bay. Remember that. So that's the atmosphere and the zeitgeist of
two thousand and five six seven era born stuff, And that's in the movie.
They actually discussed the water boarding. I think at one point in this
movie. Anyway, I'm trying to remember when did all the guantan Automo stuff
come out? What year was that two thousand? I'm talking about in the
news. I'm not talking about when did it exist? Anyway, it's in
this time period, right. For me, everything in the two thousands kind
of runs together, right, It's just kind of all like a generic Oh
yeah, that's roughly in the two thousands. I don't have a very good
memory, like chronologically. I just remember like loose periods, you know.
Anyway, that's all in the background of this movie, and I thought that
was interesting. And then we find out that what is Blackbriar. What's more
than just an upgrade for surveillance. Blackbriar is a Treadstone upgrade. Oh,
we got a Treadstone two point zero in the works. And in this one,
the Guardian journalist guy is getting information from a CI station in Madrid,
I think, and he says, hey, I want to leak everything about
Treadstone and trust on two point zero. So he goes to this Guardian journalist
and it's in the movie. It's the Guardian. That's pretty crazy, right,
And so Jason Bourne reads this Guardian guy's story about himself about Matt Dadbod
and Franka Potente getting killed, and so he said, I gotta meet with
this guy. So he tries to meet with the journalist to give information,
but the CIA's tracking him and all this, so they activate assassins to take
out the Guardian journalist, which is pretty wild. Again, this hearkens to
like David Gary Web type stuff exactly. Then we find out more about well,
so what is Treadstone exactly and what exactly is Blackbriar. Well, as
we said, Blackbriar is a Treadstone upgrade. People talking about this super secret
program is what triggered the Echelon keywords search to say, hey, people are
talking, there's chatter about this. We better close in on him. Then
we find out there's this shady character who's running the mind control program named doctor
Hirsch wild because guess what, this is very close to many of the actual
doctor I mean, I don't know of an m Cultra doctor named doctor Hirsch,
but I'm saying that the actual mculter doctors like Jose Delgado rope books about
their imcultra operations like physical control of the mind. So doctor Hirsch obviously one
of these Sydney Gottlieb, doctor You and Cameron, doctor Jose Delgado type of
characters. Right, That's who this doctor Hirsch character is. And we find
out that he's a mind control handler doctor. He runs one of the Treadstone
Slash black Fire program and he's involved in the Umbrella program for black Ops,
which is to train these Matt Dadbots. And turns out, oh, it's
not just Matt Dadbot. There's a bunch of these, okay, and there's
even I think a female one in the next one. So we find out
that what he specialized in was behavior modification. Actually says that behavior modification the
doctor Hirsh guy, and the breakdown of the psyche of those that opted into
this program because they always do this opt in thing, right, because it's
also my fault you opted in. And that's the thing that Jason Bourne learns
right when he finally confronts the guy that runs the program. It's doctor Hirsch,
So well, sorry, David, not my fault you opted in.
It's like, oh yeah, but I mean, if you trick somebody into
opting into something you can't, you don't excuse yourself because you tricked them into
it, right. So it turns out, yes, the program is a
top secret DARPA type of thing involving the erasing of memory in one's former life
as a test subject to see if they could create a perfect assassin. And
it's not just the classic and kill interest stuff now, as we see in
the next installment, it evolves into bio enhancement, biomad tech, transhumanism,
nanotech, and changing the genome. So it gets even wilder, which by
the way, was the plot in part of No Time to Die, which
we just mentioned. I'm looking to see there's anything else in the oh.
Another curious element was that it does show Matt Dadbod's dog tags, and a
curious element they show his religion as Catholic, which I thought was curious because
you know a lot of the CIA people during this period were actually Roman Catholic
dudes. During the for example, Phoenix program, William Colby, famous trade
cat Latin mass at tender, the guy who's set up essentially the relationship between
the CIA and the Vatican Bank through a pace of twelfth. That's William Colby.
Um, we got other William Casey, also trad cat. We got
Alexander Haig right, Roman Catholic. So a lot of people in the Reagan
era, so you might be onto something with that, a rancontra thing.
A lot of a lot of Roman callous, a lot of trag cats involved
in this. But just curious that Matt Damon was that. David Webb is
said to be a Catholic on his dog tags and as we know, yes
his mind control given alternate identity. It is a trauma based mind control,
alternate personality creating program. And guess how it ends? You got it?
Oh babe, oh babe? Then if fail a party, fail a part,
I didn't, I, just like Moby ends, every one of these
did not remember this? Did you remember that? I don't remember that.
Thank you so much for those super chests. We got one last one,
which is where it gets really crazy with the trans humanist elements. As I
mentioned, final one is Born Legacy twenty twelve. A lot of people didn't
like this movie thought as the movie is pretty good. Again, all of
these are actually pretty good because they're pretty critical of these programs, this whole
attitude of the whole project, and then the fourth one being a trans humanism.
I didn't cover the fifth one with Matt, where Matt Dadbod comes back.
That one kind of put me to sleep. I think that one is
just him and Julia Stiles, and I don't know what they're They're running on
rooftops and crashing motorcycles like they always do. How many times? How many
times we can run across the rooftop? Right, Like every spy movie is
good, And Jamie was saying, and also, if you have a fruit
stand, it's done. Like if you're if you're in a if you see
a spy coming, you got a fruit stand, pack it up because that
shit is demolished. I guarantee you. Right. Born Legacy twenty twelve.
Jimmy Renner. Now this one is about as we said, nanotech. Right,
we find out special operations training. Has Jeremy Renner dropped off in the
middle of Alaska. We don't know why what he's just dropped off. He's
got to survive, so he's he's been trained with survival skills, all this
kind of stuff, and then we flashed to new villains. This time around.
It's it's not the NCIS dude or whatever his name is now it's it's
Edward Norton. So Edward Norton's the new kind of pencil necked CIA bureaucrat guy.
And they decide together with the head of the CIA, that it's time
to put an end to Treadstone, the whole project, because it's about to
come out because the lean in girl boss CIA woman from the first three,
the Landry Operative, she's about to go public and she's going to testify.
She's got all the documents. Time to shut down Treadstone, and that means
we're gonna get rid of all of them. In other words, the assassins
have to die. Guess what the focus of this one is? Drone warfare.
Wow, So it switches from surveillance and the hot topics of the two
late two thousands. Now it's all drone warfare, right, remember Obama.
All the warfare was, We're gonna We're gonna also on a drone every wedding,
every wedding in the Middle East. My wife Michael, No, I'm
just joking. Uh, Special Operations training And in Alaska he meets up with
Oscar Isaac, another person in the program, but again Jeremy Renner has had
his mind wipe, so he's likely I know how to kill and like string
up a wolf and like, you know, wrestle a wolf to the ground,
but I don't know how to you know, I don't know where I'm
at or what's going on. So he doesn't know if Oscar Isaac's gonna kill
him. Just two dudes in a mind control Assassin projects stuck out in the
woods. We think they're gonna fight. We don't know what's going on,
and we find out, hey, wait a minute, it's time for them
all to be crushed and taken out. And so they send a drone that
sends a missile. So a drone blows up the cabin intended on killing Jeremy
Rinner, who is Operation Treadstone two point zero. He's one of the and
what is two point zero Nanotech super soldiers genome enhanced super soldiers, but they've
been tweaked in a unique way to control them, which is that they now
have a chemical need for a drug, which is some weird nanotech drug that
the government has cooked up. Now, this reminded me for all you X
fan Files out there. You guys remember the X Files where Krycheck inject's skinner
with nanotech and he's got like a remote control where he can, like Bob
torture him with it. Right, remember that this is basically that. And
so Jeremy Renner is he has to take some pill which is some sort of
nanotech neurotropic pill because we find out, as I said, with this other
weird old movie, he's actually a slowboy. He actually if he doesn't take
a smart pill, he would he becomes Jeremy Retarter, right, not Jeremy
Renner, Jeremy Retard. He turns back into slowboy. And what was that
movie? Is it, Charlie? Remember that? Is that the movie where
they take that dude and they take a slowboy and make him smart. Yes,
if you've never seen the nineteen sixty eight movie, Charlie, is that
flowers for aldron on? I don't even know Alie, I don't remember all
these, right, So Charlie, go watch the Crazy movie because I'm like,
this is Charlie, dude. But now that I think about it,
actually Charlie is probably like hinting at some kind of a culture program and it
looks like is it free on YouTube? I don't know. Let's see if
this is free? Can you watch? It looks like it did, so
yeah, so if you want to watch Charlie, you see what I mean.
It's actually free on YouTube right here. And the funny thing is that
in Charlie, like you know, when when he goes in this project and
it's like limitless exactly, he gets super smart that he gets too smart.
Then he turns into this cool dude who invents super weapons and rides around on
a motorcycle and just like sleeps with chicks. Right, That's what happens to
Charlie. And then Charlie reverts to being a slow boy. But Charlie might
be based on Flowers for Alderman. But I know that the movie I'm talking
about Charlie because here is the actual movie. I'm put it in the chat
for you right here. Oh yeah, remember John Travolta Limitless that Mavie was
so stupid. I forgot about phenomena with John Travolta. Right, anyway,
so Jeremy renner Is had his genome altered. In the craziest part is where
Rachel Weiss, who's the science woman, right, boss lady science Girls,
shout out, shout out to my boss lady leaning in science Girls, Science
Girls rule the world. She goes into this wild story about yes, shout
out to patristic faith. We have actually covered lawnmar Man. We had a
blast covering lawnmar Man because it has a slowboy who turns into a smart boy.
In fact, he turns into a demon godboy. Right, better to
be a slowboy than to be an intelligent demon god in the in the metaverse,
right, That's that's what was it? Lawnmower Man. We have fun,
by the way, covering lawnmoor Man. That's a classic MODS if you
would, by the way, see if you guys can find when we covered
lawnmoor Man. Um, what was going on with Edward Norton. I'm trying
to remember, Oh oh no, So Rachel Weis gives this explanation for how
this program works. I didn't I didn't even get it. But it was
like, this sounds like the coup or something right, like it sounds like
what they were doing at wu Han, which just starts explaining what they do
with their lab. I'm not joking. And then turns out they're gonna get
rid of her. And this was a crazy part which I probably can't really
say too much about, but one of the scientists in the lab, it
turns out in this installment is wound up and mind controlled to go on a
SHO O t I n G spree in the science lab taking out all the
scientists because that's they're shutting down everything to do with Treadstone project, so that
means getting rid of all the people involved in it, including Rachel bis.
Anyway, Jeremy Renner is there at Rachel Biss's house. Great timing. He
just helps to show up when she's going to be killed and kills all the
bad guys, saves her. And he need my fix, right, he
needs his heavy pills, He needs his neuotropic nanotech super soldier or assassin pills.
Well, she doesn't have any where they at They're in Manila. What
yes, let's fly to Manila, fly to Asian countries where they got labs
where they're doing bioweapons. Interesting exactly, he went postal, Right, that
was the nineties thing science Beta. So socience man goes postal and they actually
explained that he was wound up and triggered to do that. That was crazy.
Anyway, A long story short turns out one of the key government figures
running this project. I don't remember the actor's name, but he clearly he's
a Cheney esque character. I thought that was interested. So they have a
guy who literally looks like Cheney with the CIA head running the Treadstone project.
And shout out to our girl bosses out there, right, former operative Landry,
who's going to expose this. It's gonna be just get the word out,
right, because that's how it works. You get the word out and
then it all crashes down to crumbles. Is that really how it works?
The virus here, I'm trying to understand the logic of this so called virus
technology right in the story. Somehow Renter had been given some genetic altering virus
and that turned him into the two point zero Jason two point zero. And
she actually explains that where they were doing these operations. This is in the
screenplay is that Fort Dietrich. That's crazy because Fort Dietrich is where they continue
mk ultra according to John Marks in his old classic book. So clearly Robert
Ludlam has read this book because he's including obscure details in that book in this
story. Whatever virus or whatever nanotech thing that Renter has been given has made
his abilities to be permanent. However, if he undoes this, I guess
we're supposed to think he would revert back to being a slow, slowboy.
I don't know, but she says it's genomic targeting. So the stabby targets
the genome and can turn you into a you know, been Affleck in the
Accountant, right, super spurgus assid like we covered in that movie, right,
or presumably it can do all kinds of other things. And so this
one. The only criticism I have of that installment is that it ends super
abruptly for no reason, with them running away and they're floating on a Filipino
barge and they're just like eating lunch. They're eating noodles or something, and
it's like that's it. Well, so is Treadstone ended or like? So,
I guess I'm gonna think there's gonna be another one, And there was
another one which was not very good. I fell asleep in that one.
So I'm sorry, Matt, dad boy, but I fell asleep in your
movie. I don't know what's to tell you. So there we go.
All the elements that we would expect, and much more. I didn't expect
the nuances with the genome stuff. I didn't expect the nuances with the second
installment and all the Russian angle with the Russian oligarchs. That was all pretty
much based in reality as far as I could tell. Let's say a couple
of other books. If you're looking for an introductory book that's newer than the
two boward, this one's okay. It's a it's a kind of a written
as a really a pop introductory level to these topics. We just covered,
as you guys know, Brave New World, which is obviously more and more
talking about the top these topics than I've ever realized. Right. We just
broke this down a full chapter by chapter breakdown with quite frankly, which is
on my channel for subscribers, so check that out. And yeah, absolutely,
it's this is one percent about him. Children. There's another famous text
too, by Intelligence writer Gordon Thomas. He's written many intelligence based texts.
His book is Journey into Madness. That's a well known one, and then
there's another one called Monarch of the New Phoenix program Um. That one's okay.
So those are some other texts if you're looking for introductory topics to this.
This one is really good, but it's hard to find. You can
never get it. It's always out of print because it's nineteen ninety eight.
But there you go. There's some other ones too. There's also, as
we said, the Colin Ross doctor Colin Ross has a book about the CIA
doctors. And there is the Jose Delgado book, which eventually we need to
cover Jose Delgado's book. I mean, this would be a classic right there,
right this thing, because that's that's a prize right there. I bet
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be? There's a little hint. Anyway, it's a great interview, wild
conversation. Let's go to the super chests about if you want to support me,
you support me by getting the chalk products and you support yourself. That's
the point. That's what I'm trying to say. Where are we at?
Thank you guys for these super chests and so much so much thanks to Laurie
who threw in a super chat at the end of the last live stream.
Sixty dollars. Thank you so much, she says, once again, good
stuff, keep up the good work. Well you ended up winning that day.
Is a super chat there, because I think you had the biggest one
that day. Yes, you did. Thank you so much, Laurie,
much appreciated. Sixty bucks. Let's see next one is lost my place?
Yukon Cornelius. That's a name right there. Five dollars. Can you review
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer? I assume that's a joke. I make a
cameo? What? How do you make a cameo? It would be an
honor to be featured. Are you talking about that old claimation? How do
you make it? How do you make a joking? Dude? I hid
kroleing Easter eggs? Okay, I think this is a joke, but okay,
Turbo Diesel. Five dollars. Will you be debating the fish Tank members
with text to speech? So Sam, Hide's a reality show I think has
started. It's called fish Tank, So check that out. It looks funny.
I don't think I'll be debating those people, though, but that's an
interesting idea. Cyril Oppenheimer ten dollars I just had chrismation. I was received
into Orthodoxy. Hey, great to hear that. Shout out to you for
being a part of guiding me well. Much appreciated. Cyril Oppenheimer, a
long time super chatter, a long time supporter. I'm glad to hear the
good news. Man Constantine menial trauma fifteen dollars. I have two questions,
how does Orthodoxy justify the use of violence? Well, number one, I
don't think there is a justification of it. We want to be violent.
In canon law, violence is frowned upon. But it's not the Orthodox justifying
violence. It's that God gives us the right to self defense, and God
gives families and nations the right to self defense. So you could go read
the Russian Church's statement on Social Order, and you can go to road course
Studies and read the Russian of our Church and war Christianity and war articles.
What about the case of capital punishment, I mean Roma's thirteen says that there
should be capital punishment, So I don't know what's the problem there. What
do you think about preppers. I think it's a good idea and why it
is to prep but I don't go crazy with preppers stuff. But I do
think it's a wise idea to have storable food, to be, you know,
living off the grid as sufficient as you can. I don't mean off
the grid like run to the hills and have a shack, become a prospector
and run around and brown nasty underwear with a flap on the back. That's
not what I'm talking about. Maybe you want to do that. I don't
care you do, go do it whatever. But I mean all my most
a lot of my friends, I'm most. I don't know how many friends
are into homesteady. It seems like a wise decision, especially if you have
a family, right. But I would definitely be out of blue cities.
But I don't think you gotta, you know, live in a shack in
the millin nowhere. Jesse Marosco seven forty seven, God, bless you,
Jay, thank you so much. Seven forties. That's an odd price,
seven forty seven JJ five dollars. Interesting that they chose Paul Greenrass to later
direct you nineteen ninety three. Oh, I remember seeing that propaganda movie that
was terrible, and it did Paul Greenrass. Did he which one did he
do? Did he do? Multiple? Multiple? Born movies. I didn't
even think to look at who was the director? Okay, so Troy Tony,
Gilroy, Paul green Grass, Doug Lyman. Interesting, and did y'all
watch the one with Matt Dadbod? Was that a flop? The last one?
Let's see what it did, the twenty sixteen one. I watched it
and I remember falling asleep because like him and Julia Stiles and Vincent cassell when
does Vincent Casselle not play a douchebag killer, Like that's the only role he
can ever play, Like you want to be a killer, or you want
to be a French douchebag or a French douchebag killer, that's the only role.
Like he's typecast forever. As that had some big names though, Alicia
Viknder from X Maschina, Tommy Lee Jones. But was it a success?
Let's find out the budget on that one. It was interesting, So it
was actually a big hit. It cost one hundred twenty million and it made
four hundred million. So old Matt Dadbod got him a He got a billion
dollar franchise. So what Yeah, so the Born franchise is a one point
six billion dollars franchise. Wow, and Old Baffleck got him one too,
didn't he? And this one surprised me. But the ben Affleck Batman's were
also a huge I would have I thought they were like failures or something,
but I didn't realize. No, actually those are like mega he made like
five that not he But there's like five hundred million dollars made on the first
one. I think, where even is that? I'm trying to find it
and I can't. All I want to see is the freaking ben Affleck Batman.
They're pulling up like t R a n S actors in film. I
don't want to see that. That's not what I'm looking for. What the
heck? Let's see Batman versus Superman. Let's try this and what it didn't
make? Batman versus Superman Dawn of Justice. That sounds corny, Yeah,
dude, check that out. I've never even watched this because I thought this
this, this sounded terrible. Where are they actually good? I don't even
know. The budget was two hundred and fifty three hundred and it made almost
a billion. So just the Batman versus Superman with Old Bafflex almost made a
billion dollars that's crazy. So you think that the Bafflex are the worst Batman's
interesting since George Clooney, Uh, is that the one with Edward p Enigma.
No, that's Val Kilmer. But did Actually, if you go back
and watch the Jim Carrey Batman, I think we covered it. That's about
TV mind controlling everybody. Do you guys remember that? Because Edward p Enigma
is like a homo erotics soy science man who has a crush on Val Kilmer,
you don't notice that until you go I mightn't watch. It's like what
And then Val Kilmer is like Val Kilmer's like Elon Musk, like this big
tech guru guy, right, and he's like he just disses Edward p Enigma
Enigma and it causes soy rage in Edward p Enigma, and so he devises
the idea to use signals through the TV to mind control everyone in Gotham and
it works. Interesting. Interesting, So go back and watch your Your Vowel,
Your Vowel Classics. By the way, we did a vowel installment that
was a lot of fun. Or I did it. I think it was
just me. Jamie went there for that. It was just me. The
Val Kilmer Special, and I did one of my favorites, the classic The
Saint. That's a classic, one of my favorite movies. So if you
didn't see the Vowel installment, go watch that. What did we do there?
I did Man, The Saint and Spartan Willow, So that was actually
a qua triple feature. I think I added an extra one on there.
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guys, so much. A lot of fun there we have it. The
Born movies. I don't think we miss anything with skipping the final Matt Dad
Bond installment, even though it was actually it looks like a big hit.
I didn't realize that, but how did it end? Did he end up
with Julia Stiles or something. I'm a guessing. I'm guessing that's what I
don't know. But if you guys would hit like and share, Hey,
we got good ideas for new installments coming. I'm thinking we haven't done mel
Gibson installment. And there's some classic mel Gibson conspiracy films conspiracy theory, like
the most famous Hollywood conspiracy movie with Mel Gibson. Why we not, Well,
it's in my book I did cover in Star Hollywood. However, we've
not done a podcast on it because there's just something about you gotta wait for
the right time. Do you wait for the right time and then it comes
about and then you say, hey, let's do conspiracy theory. Let's do
Edge of Darkness also a conspiracy movie, really good mel Gibson movie. We
did do All the Mad Maxes. That was part of our dystopian series.
So we've already done all the Mad Maxes. So we're gonna find some other
mel Gibson's. Now. We might tack on the classics like Braveheart and Apocalypto,
or we might keep it at conspiracy mel Gibson or I'm thinking I want
to. Jamie had a guy idea, let's just do Apocalypto, Braveheart,
conspiracy theory, and Edge of Darkness, which is interesting. What do you
guys think? Let me know what movies you'd like to see analyze next below