1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:07,839 All right, welcome to a new installment of our Deep Dives as we go 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:14,279 into some geopolitics from a book that I've been really impressed with. It was 3 00:00:14,359 --> 00:00:17,640 not the book I expect that. I expected it to be more of a 4 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:23,839 kind of a dry academic text that covered, you know, kind of irrelevant 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:31,000 or forgotten lore and arcana about the history of the CIA, looking into various 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,399 religious traditions and doing ethnography. And we've covered books like that already with David 7 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:42,719 Price's book Weaponizing Anthropology some years ago, which we lectured there as well. 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,679 That's been a lot more detail and nuggets to it than I expected. And 9 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:55,280 that is the Erring into the Wilderness book by Michael Graziano. And we're talking 10 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,799 about this today because I talked about it Friday to a very large audience. 11 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,119 And the book is again better than I expected it to be, not because 12 00:01:03,159 --> 00:01:06,000 I thought it wouldn't be good. I just thought it wouldn't be as full 13 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:14,799 of kind of insights into psyops, operations, fake flag events, staged events 14 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:23,120 and so forth as it is. And so luckily we can dive into this 15 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:33,159 with some interesting providential timing due to Dune being out. So yeah, as 16 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,840 you know, we covered recently Dune Messiah the sequel, and this was three 17 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:46,319 months ago, and I lectured through the first half kind of restating and revisiting 18 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,719 a lot of the original Dune material. And even though today's video is not 19 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:56,000 primarily about Dune, I think Tristan and I are going to soon do a 20 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,640 deep dive on Noon because Tristan has never read or watched Doom, so that's 21 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,719 going to be exciting to see his impression what he comes away with when he 22 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,360 finally sees it. And now that Dune Too just released this weekend, a 23 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,199 lot of people are kind of raving. There's a lot of chatter, so 24 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:21,800 a couple thoughts. I mean, the movie was a lot better than I 25 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,719 expected, not because I thought it would be bad. I just went into 26 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:30,800 it with mediocre expectations because I think that's typically what is the safest bet nowadays 27 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:36,800 going into movies, because they're almost always I don't know, missing something. 28 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,479 You don't really watch movies that move you in any way, that have any 29 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,639 kind of profound wow factor to them, and this one did. It was 30 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,439 the first one I watched in fifteen, maybe twenty years, maybe even back 31 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:52,360 to Lord of the Range something like that where you just really you're really blown 32 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:58,479 away by the overall presentation of the film, acting, the writing, the 33 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,719 philosophical depth. It treats the audience like they're intelligent, not like their children. 34 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:10,639 It's a very sophisticated plot in it accurately portrays what's in the book. 35 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,599 I mean, it leaves out, obviously some things to make it I guess 36 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:21,080 under three hours. It's right under three hours in part two, So we 37 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:24,919 don't see third stage Guild navigators, and we don't get a lot of weirding 38 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,599 Way information. But you know, those are minor points. And then they 39 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,000 change a little bit of the storyline with Shawny. You know, that's fine 40 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:38,159 with me, and none of that really bothered me. But some of the 41 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:44,159 only thing my only criticism is that it was a little odd to have Christopher 42 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:47,680 Walking, who's this very you know, weird bizarro sort of character. I 43 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,560 mean, I'm not saying it's a bad actor. It's just kind of a 44 00:03:51,039 --> 00:04:00,479 wow, wow, and you know, who's this why deep who is Indeed, 45 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:03,960 you know you've got him being a weirdo. He doesn't come off as 46 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,319 the Emperor of the known universe. You know, he should have been some 47 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:14,240 sort of weird desert prophet character that would be more sensible, like a fool 48 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,720 for Wadeb instead of a fool for Christ. A fool from Wadeeb in the 49 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:25,959 desert like that would have been a better fitting hermit role for him. But 50 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,720 other than that, I mean, I think pretty much everything else is perfect. 51 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 I mean, I think it was. It was phenomenal movie, so 52 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,360 we're gonna be diving deeper into that with Tristan and I brought it up today 53 00:04:36,399 --> 00:04:42,120 because a lot of what is in the Grasiano book again very interesting timing, 54 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,720 synthesized very well with the plot and the information and Dune and also in doing 55 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,800 Messiah, which we don't know if there will be a Dune Messiah element to 56 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:01,600 the Third Dune when it comes out. Did leave doing part two open for 57 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,600 the rest of the story or potential story elements. There's six books total, 58 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:13,000 so I mean, I suppose it could be a franchise if they chose to 59 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,879 make it that. But yeah, a lot of people saying that this is 60 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:17,560 kind of like New Lord of the Rings. I think so, I mean, 61 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:23,160 if the third one pulls it off and is a very enjoyable and kind 62 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:29,639 of breathtaking experience like Part two was very much an Empire Strikes Back Two Towers 63 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,920 type of movie, definitely, So it was refreshing to go and experience the 64 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:43,000 arts like they used to be fifteen twenty years ago. So the plot, 65 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,519 of course, as you know, revolves around Typically people think of it's about 66 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Paul, it's about his ascendancy, but really it's about courtly intrigue and plots. 67 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:58,800 It's about plans with implans, as the Guild Navigator says, and plans 68 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,000 within plans refers to the intrigues within the court, refers to power plays, 69 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:09,920 refers to espionage versus sexpionage. We get that in the new Done two movie 70 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:18,000 with the Leah Sadu character. We get mind control. We get everything that 71 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:26,040 made the philosophy of the books so good is translated perfectly into this film. 72 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:29,720 And when we look at the Grazziano book, that's where we see such amazing 73 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:34,120 overlap as the way he discusses the early phases of the OSS and their approach 74 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:41,439 to what he calls the religious interpretation of intelligence or the religious approach to intelligence, 75 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,600 which is kind of the brainchild of the first head of the OSS, 76 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:50,120 wild Bill Donovan. We see a lot of parallels with the attitude of the 77 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:59,639 Missionary of Protectiva or the female which coven sisterhood of the Benny Jesuit, which 78 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:08,800 line which which we called jokingly snack and I the been a Jesuit witch line 79 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,399 because they're really kind of like female intelligence handlers, and that's actually made really 80 00:07:13,399 --> 00:07:19,560 explicit in the story. So you have these intelligence handling mind controlling which women, 81 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:28,120 and they mastered certain arts and certain principles of kind of it's hard to 82 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,240 say if it's exactly it's not exactly supernatural. I mean, I haven't read 83 00:07:31,279 --> 00:07:38,720 all this series yet, so I don't know if supernatural divine ish elements ever 84 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:43,120 enter into the Dune world. They might, I don't know, but I 85 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,759 think typically the idea is more so perennialism and sort of evolving. So the 86 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:56,279 powers that the Beny Jesuits sister to have is more of an evolutionary thing because 87 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,839 it's a lot to do with genetic bloodline manipulation, and their whole plot is 88 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:05,959 to manipulate the bloodline to produce the universe as super being a sort of Christ 89 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:11,720 like figure, and they're thinking as if they can control the bloodline and control 90 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:18,000 the birth of the Quisasaderak, then they'll control and be the most powerful entity 91 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,480 in the universe. So it's all about power place the missionary of Protectiva, 92 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:33,039 this long lineage of ben A Jesret secret society which covin ladies that operate like 93 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:39,000 an intelligence operation. They have seeded throughout the known universe their own mythology so 94 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,039 that when it's the right time, they can bring forth the super being, 95 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:50,080 the god like christ like figure, the demigod. And of course the story, 96 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,440 as you know in doing is that it gets out of their hands and 97 00:08:52,519 --> 00:08:58,480 it's it's really sort of ends up being palm one deep, even though Paul 98 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:05,080 ends up being a tragic character. Really this mimics perfectly the attitude of a 99 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,919 lot of religious well a lot of intelligence agency approaches, not just to religion, 100 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:16,559 but to what it is sometimes called worldview warfare or weltenschronskrit. So worldview 101 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,240 warfare is the idea that, and this ties into the religious approach of the 102 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,559 CIA OSS and the CIA is that people don't just operate on the basis of 103 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:35,720 you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. I mean, there's multiple motivations that 104 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:39,120 humans have, and the most motivations aren't just bodily desires. They also have 105 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,879 motivations for ideological or spiritual or conceptual things, and so the way they view 106 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:52,679 the world across the world is typically through the lens some kind of religious perspective. 107 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,440 And so the OSAs and CIA saw early on, and it became more 108 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,320 prominent, particularly in the Cold War. And that should be obvious as to 109 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,720 why, because in the Cold War there would be a need for the West 110 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:13,600 to really try to capitalize pun intended on the mileage that they could get out 111 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,279 of religious world views and the idea of uniting any religious world views to fight 112 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:26,159 against the godless atheism, the Satanic Empire, whatever terminology Riggan used during the 113 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:31,759 Cold War to describe the Soviets and Communism in general throughout the Cold War. 114 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,000 So the religious approaches you can see would be very beneficial, especially as the 115 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:45,720 Cold War ramps up post National Security Statement sixty eight, because NSC sixty eight 116 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,279 is the famous statement about the dangers of the Kremlin. National Security Report sixty 117 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:54,440 eight, and we've talked about that in regard to the whim Hoff book, 118 00:10:56,039 --> 00:11:01,559 and this book interestingly parallels perfectly with the wim Hoff book. The wim Moff 119 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:07,320 book touches on so many things in such a deeper way than the Grazziano book. 120 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,960 But the Graciano book kind of includes as a kind of a side piece, 121 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:13,679 you know what I'm saying, it's the side piece of the wim Hoff 122 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,600 book to be a very helpful kind of appendix or an addendum to elements. 123 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:24,759 Where Wimoff doesn't focus on the general approach of the OS, S and c 124 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:30,759 A, He's really he's really focusing hyper specifically upon characters like C. D. 125 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Jackson, John Courtney Murray and the attitude of U. S. S 126 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:41,200 and CA for how to really co op the Vatican. This actually this book 127 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,320 also actually touches on that, but in a much briefer section in regard to 128 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:52,960 Bill Donovan, which I do remember wim Hoff going into detail about Bishop Fulton 129 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:56,720 Sheen, whom Grindsiano mentions, but I don't recall if he spends a whole 130 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,960 lot of time on Donovan. So Donovan has given a much more fuller treatment 131 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,639 by Graziano. He begins the book talking about, by the way, the 132 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:13,320 Sri elements, and if you think about it, the cia Is approach to 133 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:22,240 religion isn't going to be just limited to things like Christianity or Judaism or Islam. 134 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Those are kind of obvious that that intelligence agencies would have an intense interest 135 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:35,519 in those three, but the occult and superstition and all the myriads of cults 136 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,840 that kind of relate then to that, and that would include things like satanic 137 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:46,320 cults, psychics, new Agers, theosophy, Levatski, you know, these 138 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,120 kinds of characters who also have had a history of being associated with and connected 139 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,000 to intelligence operatives at different levels. So in the same way, we can 140 00:12:54,039 --> 00:13:00,000 see here that SRI is mentioned at the very beginning the remote viewing programs projects 141 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Sunstreak, that's remote viewing it. And this was a bizarre thing because of 142 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,720 course we've all heard about remote viewing, and we just did a stream with 143 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:13,799 Cotel Deopatricarrey recently on my channel. You can go watch that where we covered 144 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:18,080 the gateway process and how that ties into SRI. One of the things that 145 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,039 was kind of weird about this was, I mean, it remind you of 146 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:28,159 the Leprechaun, remember the Leprechaun viral video Evon's World. I mean, this 147 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:31,480 is like that level, right, I'm a abood a tree, I'm gonna 148 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,080 get that Leprechaun. I want to go. I want to know where the 149 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,399 gold is. Get me to go. I want to know where to gold 150 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,519 at well. In the same way, like the level of artistic specification that 151 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,360 we saw in the drawing of the Leprechaun is essentially the same as the level 152 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:50,799 of sophistication that the remote viewers had of telling them about what John Paul the 153 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,200 Second looked like. So, first of all, had they never seen John 154 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,639 Paul the Second in nineteen what is this eighty eight? I mean, he 155 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:05,519 was his pope since late seventies, so it's bizarre to me that they would 156 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:11,519 number one, they would task remote viewers with trying to spy on Pope jomp 157 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,639 All the second I kuld, you know. And then in the remote viewing 158 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:18,080 this is suppose this is one of the drawings. I mean, it looks 159 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,600 like it's like leprekn level. I mean, this is like Napoleon Dynamite's sketch 160 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:28,240 level. So maybe he picked the worst of the remote viewing sketch artists. 161 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:35,080 But to me, I thought that was pretty pitiful. But he then discusses 162 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,799 the points that you heard me make about worldview warfare at Bolton Shawn's Creek. 163 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,360 This is why religion matters, but particularly right away at page five, I 164 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:48,639 mean, he gets sent to saying essentially that the OSS's approach was to model 165 00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:54,679 especially the post World War two and post and into the Cold War, was 166 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:01,759 to model their entire religious approach on the Roman Catholic Church. Interesting and what 167 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:09,120 he says is for finally, US intelligence work abroad bled into debates about religion, 168 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,600 as Roman Sasses became the model through which the intelligence community would understand and 169 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:20,840 manipulate world religions. So did you hear that manipulate world religions? That is 170 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,120 religious engineering on the part of intelligence agences. You've heard me use that terminology 171 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:28,120 many times. It's not a conspiracy term. It's right here in the academic 172 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:33,159 literature. Now. I made the comment right there that this is the Benny 173 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:41,159 Jesuit sisterhood approach, the religious approach. This explains why so many intelligence officers 174 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:46,440 put them to manipulate American Christianity at home, just as they tried to manage 175 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:54,519 world religions abroad. That's page five, and he mentions the cultural Cold War. 176 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,799 This brings to mind Francis Dunner Saunders and the Congress for cultural freedom as 177 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,320 the CIA front funding all of those cultural projects by the SAYA throughout the Cold 178 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:11,759 War two fight the ideology of Sovietism with Western liberalism, and also a common 179 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:17,480 core or essence approach to the world religions a la who well he's not named 180 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,759 here, but we already know who they're thinking of. Who's the chief modern 181 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:29,440 arca tect of arca type philosophy which links all the religions, who also happen 182 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:36,279 to be an oss operative Well, it's operative four eight eight Carl Jung Jungian 183 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,480 philosophy, Joseph Campbell type philosophy, who, by the way, worked on 184 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:44,519 the SRI document Changing Images of Man, which Tristan discovered what do you know 185 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:51,759 intimately tied into this OSSCI approach to finding a shared common core or essence amongst 186 00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:59,320 the world religions that could be universally translatable into the language of the intelligence agencies 187 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:07,920 to manipulate and to control, in other words, Acumanism. Theosophy right, 188 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:17,240 this type of perennialism, union, blending, and melding is itself intimately tied 189 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:26,720 into the oss CISRI approach, and we already saw predecessors to that in Blovatski 190 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:33,839 in those figures right in terms of the Fabian society. Again Blovatski herself having 191 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:40,599 intimate ties to intelligence agencies. She says her philosophy is the philosophy of the 192 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,359 coming New Age. It becomes the background philosophy for all New Age philosophy and 193 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,319 thought, as well as somebody who had very similar views to her in this 194 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:59,960 sense, another British intelligence operative Alistair Curley. So he stresses that the approach 195 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,160 ultimately has nothing to do with finding the truth. Right, So we have 196 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,480 to understand that when the OSS and the CIA are studying the various religions, 197 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,200 they're not there to figure out which one's true, Okay, they're they're there 198 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,640 to figure out the pragmatic usages of various religions, groups, sex cults for 199 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:26,400 the needs of the time. That's it now. Individual intelligence operatives may have 200 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:33,440 their own personal interests and desires to discover the truth about this or that, 201 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:38,519 but that's not their job. So for example, if Ed Lansdale spends much 202 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:45,920 time focusing on studying Far Eastern philosophies like Shinto and this kind of stuff, 203 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:49,759 it's not at all because he thought it was true. We're trying to find 204 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:57,119 the truth. His motivations explicitly were to understand the culture, the ethnography of 205 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:06,359 Japan in or to set them against the Muslims. And we'll get to that 206 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,640 specific operation later on as he discusses that. So religion really becomes to the 207 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:18,200 intelligence agencies the tool for packs Americana. And that is just simply to say 208 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,839 soft power. And that's the very thing you've heard me say many, many 209 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:27,720 times. So the book is named after another person, Perry Miller, who 210 00:19:27,759 --> 00:19:33,720 wrote a famous book called Aaron into the Wilderness about the plight of the New 211 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,799 England Puritans. And it turns out Perry Miller was himself a OSS operator during 212 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:42,759 World War Two. World War two, Miller worked for OSS in Germany, 213 00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:48,079 where he specialized in psychological warfare, a domain that has frequently applied, that 214 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,200 has frequently applied the knowledge gained through the religious approach of the S, S 215 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:59,279 and c. Then, of course, James Jesus Angleton is a key character 216 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:03,559 in this book story, who, like Miller, was a university man at 217 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:08,440 heart, but found himself embedded in the Vatican and in Rome and for many 218 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:21,200 years to make key alliances with the CIA and the Vatican. Both of USS 219 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:25,359 officers, Miller and Angleton, wore tasked with understanding and manipulating the human mind. 220 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,279 It's not an easy task, of course. Angleton quotes a verse from 221 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,920 TS. Elliott describing the business of espionage as the wilderness of mirrors, and 222 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,640 so hence the title of both books, and then he goes on to say 223 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:45,119 that really the purpose again even of the religious approach, not to find out 224 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:52,240 which theology is true, but for control. So I appreciate that blunt just 225 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,119 laying it out there. Yeah, they're not interested what's true, They're interested 226 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:03,680 in using these philosophies to divide or to night for control. Any points out, 227 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,799 of course that the CIA has a massive repertoire of academics, and so 228 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:17,880 the the agency is able to call upon probably the largest cachet of academics that 229 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,319 are out there, and that would be PhDs and science, philosophy, learning, 230 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,880 scholarship, you name it. And that's why we saw, for example, 231 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,680 so many OSS people in the early phases, right, were even people 232 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:42,519 like sports stars mo Burgh, Cook's Julia Child, people that had all a 233 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:47,799 wide range of expertise and skill sets, right, just like the inquiry did 234 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,039 prior to the OSS a lot of academics, is what I'm trying to say. 235 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,039 Now, it wasn't totally academics, because we also had people who were 236 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,960 you know, hired for all kinds of stuff, playboys, you know, 237 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:03,559 ravens. And they'll say, well, the CIA never used sex operatives. 238 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:07,480 I don't believe that, but and I think that Winnie Webb's book shows up 239 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,359 as well. But they always try to paint it as, oh, it's 240 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:17,480 just you know, business people and wealthy people recruited and admin and lawyers and 241 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,240 all this stuff. And that's true, but there's you know, the recruitment 242 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:26,519 of all kinds of people, including criminals. So first interesting quote as we 243 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:30,279 get into the American spies and the Catholic Church, which is one of the 244 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,559 more revealing sections, and again it really backs up what we read in wim 245 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:40,240 Hoff as well as other texts too. All the Gladio literature is sort of 246 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,920 also parallel to this, and it really backs up a lot of the Gladio 247 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,200 literature that's out there as well. Even though Graziono, as far as I 248 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,559 can tell, doesn't mention Gladio at all, So no mentions of Gladio or 249 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:59,519 these kinds of operations, which is interesting because I would think Gladio would really 250 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:03,200 back up his case here. And it's not like Gladio is still in the 251 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,200 realm of conspiracy. There's you know, actual PhD thesis level stuff like the 252 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,079 Ganser thesis on it, so you know, it's not in the realm of 253 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,000 pure theory. It's pretty well documented. Odd that he doesn't include. He 254 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:18,200 does mention some of the players that we saw in the Gladio literature, like 255 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:25,279 Father Felix mor Leone, the famous Dominican ecumenists, and he does mention quite 256 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:32,519 a few other players adjacent to Gladio or involved in Gladio as well. But 257 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,160 even backs up the Paul the six connections to the US S and CA, 258 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:44,440 which is in the Kayler book and which is in the Williams book. It's 259 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:52,319 not in the Gancer book if I recall, but William Casey, the devout 260 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,359 Catholic who would become the director of the CIA. This is under the Reagan 261 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:06,160 period, noted that the OSS was the most diverse assembled group of scholars, 262 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:15,240 scientists, bankers, correspondents, tycoons, psychologists, so cro football and probably 263 00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:22,480 others football stars, football stars, circus managers, and circus freaks, circus 264 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,960 freaks, safe crackers, lock pickers, and pickpockets. You named them, 265 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:37,440 while Bill Donovan collected them. So there you have it. And why would 266 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,519 that be Well, because you might need these people for all kinds of things. 267 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:47,720 And really this show is just an attitude of sort of full spectrum dominance, 268 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,039 right, so you never know when you might need all these guys. 269 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Religion then became a key tool in the arsenal of OSAs and Cia manipulation. 270 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:07,039 Hence the rel religious view as they called it. Donovan was a key to 271 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:11,279 making, for example, as a Roman Catholic, many of the alliances in 272 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:17,920 the Vatican. And this began on the part of Donovan at the time of 273 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,000 World War Two. As we've talked about key alliances made with a man Vatican. 274 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:29,079 He notes many admissions here. And really, Donovan is this fascinating character 275 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:37,799 because even though he was a halfway committed I guess verbally Catholic, he seemed 276 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:42,160 to have a lot of wavering ideas about where he stood religiously. He investigated 277 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,920 all the world religions, not exactly sure why he's settled on Catholicism, but 278 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,720 the fascinating element is that he's the archetypal ecumenist. He actually believed that religion 279 00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:57,480 would be a great intelligence tool, and he saw himself, I think, 280 00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:04,039 more as an Americanist. Ecumenists before a Catholic So Americanism came first for Donovan, 281 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:08,359 and that's why he's such an archetypal figure for ecumenism. And he's a 282 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:17,480 big link between proving and demonstrating the OSSCIA support for and really propelling of ecumenism 283 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,640 to the powers that it has today. And that's because Ecumenism is fundamentally bound 284 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,400 up with Americanism. And this is another thesis that Weimoff has in his book, 285 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,759 which is easily born out. Americanism is more important to these people than 286 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:38,160 Catholicism. So Catholicism in their view becomes like CD Jackson's doctrine warfare program, 287 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,759 a tool of American soft power. Romeancolic Church is not there to save souls. 288 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,200 It might do that on the offhand, but it's primarily there from their 289 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:56,039 vantage point these guys as a tool of American soft power. He mentions the 290 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:02,000 WASP element at the time that was perhaps a little hostile to Bill Donovan, 291 00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:07,680 but I think even the Wasps who had anti Catholic sentiments understood the usage of 292 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:12,400 Donovan and being such a key character at the time of World War two and 293 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,240 post World War two to solidify the relationship with the Vatican. So he becomes 294 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:26,440 kind of this useful Catholic ecumenist figure who can solidify and embeds S and c 295 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:32,200 A into the Vatican. And that's treated with just glib sort of obvious or 296 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:41,160 clearly throughout this first chapter. And Donovan becomes the archetype of the very thing 297 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,039 that we're talking about when we think about today's quote Catholics, right like a 298 00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:51,680 Biden. You couldn't have a Biden who has basically no actual connection whatsoever with 299 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,240 the theology of Catholicism or the real practice of it, other than just to 300 00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:02,640 say in his half dementia state he's a Catholic in good standing, because Francis 301 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,480 says he's a Catholic and good standing, not kidding that sexual article. Look 302 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:12,799 it up. You couldn't have any of that without first having the Jesuits a 303 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,440 la Wimhoff's book positing the separation not just of church and state. I'm a 304 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:26,039 part of Americanism, but separation of individual faith in life, thus allowing for 305 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,119 a Kennedy or a Biden right to say, well, my faith is my 306 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,559 personal life and it doesn't affect my political voting and decision making. So I 307 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:44,480 can be pro abraution as a political Catholic, but in my private life I 308 00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,279 secretly support pro life. I mean, it makes no sense. But you 309 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:55,759 couldn't have that without first having a bill on of a type of character and 310 00:28:55,799 --> 00:29:02,680 the John Courtney murrays who really pioneered that division. And it also points out 311 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,319 that clearly, as you might suspect, a lot of the information and approach 312 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,119 to religion and theology on the part of the SS and CIA again was not 313 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,680 to figure out what was true, but to figure out tools and tricks and 314 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:23,079 techniques and tactics to have in the tool belt to cause division, chaos, 315 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:29,640 and confusion when necessary, which turns out to be quite often so. In 316 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,720 this book we have many operations that are mentioned, spelled out, cited, 317 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,279 utilized. We have, for example, the co opting and usage of figures 318 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,519 like Francis Cardinal Spellman and Archbishop Fulton Sheen, who went off notes were closely 319 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:49,119 connected to CIA figures. OSS figures like Henry LUs Time Magazine, Claire Booth 320 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:56,759 Loose and the recruitment of people for the OSS. In fact, Graziano cites 321 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:03,960 Fulton Sheen as recruiting for war bild On. And so this allowed the Vatican, 322 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,680 excuse me, THESS to have a very intimate relationship starting in nineteen forty 323 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:15,480 two via Bill Donovan. And remember that American intelligence is not just set up 324 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:21,119 by FDR right, It's not like the President calls the shots. No, 325 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,920 no, no. British Intelligence sent their operatives over at the behest of higher 326 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:32,519 level people above them Royal Society, Royal and Supernational Affairs, Milner Group, 327 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,039 Fabian Society, etc. Those are the people in the background of the British 328 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:52,799 intelligence operatives who come to America to help set up the I keep getting this 329 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,480 thing popping up here, to help set up the American intelligence agency known as 330 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,279 the OS S and CIA, And that's the irregulars. That's Noel Coward, 331 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:18,400 William Stevenson, Ian Fleming, etc. That crew. As you can imagine, 332 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,319 at this time, the OSS was really intent on trying to secure the 333 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:29,279 support of Pis the twelfth, the Pope at the time of the last phases 334 00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:33,680 of traditional Catholicism and World War two and all that, and it seemed to 335 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,720 be successful. The Vatican ended up being pretty much for the most part pro 336 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:47,640 pro us. There might have been some confusion over you know, the Vatican 337 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,200 maybe wavering with the rat lines and all that stuff, but eventually what ends 338 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:59,519 up happening is that the OSS does secure and the CIA secures a full alliance 339 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,400 with the Vatican. In fact, they even proposed a bizarre plan. This 340 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:07,920 one was wild. I've never heard of those. The brainchild of Stanley love 341 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,599 All, the OSS's director of research and development, and he's kind of compared 342 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,359 to you know, Q and James Bond, who's the gadget, the old 343 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,240 gadget guy with his dumb jokes. Well, this is like the American version 344 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:29,319 of Q. And his idea was to poison Mussolini and tiny mustache man, 345 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:36,680 and then the Pope would issue a papal bull declaring that God had struck them 346 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:43,400 with blindness as a divine omen and a sign a curse, proving that the 347 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Roman Catholic religion was So here's the OSS discussing faking miracles to prove Roman Catholicism. 348 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,079 I wonder where else that might come up. Well, guess what Marian 349 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,519 apparitions are mentioned as another one of the schemes, and I've read that in 350 00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:02,039 other mainline intelligence literature as well Latin South America. To combat the spread of 351 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,279 Soviet ideology in Latin South America. Why there just happens to be a timely 352 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:15,960 Marian apparition who revives the faith of the indigenous peoples. Not only is that 353 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:22,000 absolutely a fact of history that that's happened here, you have yet another mainline 354 00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,359 intelligence analysis admitting to that fact. And of course that's been my thesis that 355 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,359 I don't think this was new at the time of World War II or Cold 356 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,839 War. I think that this type of ideology is a big part of explaining 357 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Fatima, because of course Fatima ends up being really anti Eurasian propaganda, because 358 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:58,160 it really locates the locus of the West's enemy in Russia, which isn't actually 359 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Russia's. Russia is not the birthplace of communism, but Mary quote unquotes her 360 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:15,000 Fatima apparition ends up blaming Russia for being the aggressor and the source of communism, 361 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,480 But it's actually London. London is the source of communism. Everybody knows 362 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:22,280 this. So and of course you have all the claims of the whole the 363 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,199 Immaculate Heart, and if Russia converts to Mary and all that, none of 364 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:32,159 whichever happened, by the way, which should obviously disqualify Fatima. But Romancalley's 365 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,639 trad still believe the whole it's a secret. There's a third secret that's been 366 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:42,159 suppressed and not for years, called it Roman Catholic Q, not Q the 367 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:51,159 qan on nonsense. So the OSCESS collects intelligence at this time on the inner 368 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,039 Vatican politics to try to exploit and figure out the tensions and the key players 369 00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:04,280 and power squabbles within the Vatic to manipulate it to its own effect. And 370 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,400 guess what, in my view, that's exactly what happened, and they were 371 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,639 successful with that tremendous emission here. While Catholicism in the Vatican maintained the largest 372 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,719 and most important focus, the OSS was systematically developing a religious approach to all 373 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,800 religious peoples and more generally. The OSS study of Catholicism was important part of 374 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,840 this process since the OSS leaned into an American understanding of religion that spoke something 375 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,400 innate and essential in everyone everywhere. So they're looking for the ecumenist model to 376 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:38,480 use everywhere. Based on what they first studied in the Catholic world. To 377 00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:44,039 study a thing was the first step in manipulating the thing. To manipulate it 378 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:49,800 promised untold power over minds in the thoughts of the people around the world, 379 00:35:49,960 --> 00:36:00,360 mind control, tremidous submission. Refining this religious reproach, he argued, comes 380 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:09,360 down to later figures. William Colby ed Lansdale and he talks about the early 381 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,840 phases of recruits for the OSS. One of the first things that was set 382 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,599 up, religiously speaking was the research and analysis branch known as RAP or the 383 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,400 RAB and there were figures connected this, one of whom was Ralph Bunch, 384 00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,960 who would be going to become the first African American to win the Nobel Peace 385 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:35,480 Prize. Future Associate of the Supreme Court, Arthur Goldberg, historian Perry Miller 386 00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,119 that we mentioned earlier, filmmaker John Ford, as we mentioned many times in 387 00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:42,800 the past, we've done streams talking about john Ford in THESS, and Arthur 388 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,559 Selester chemis Stanley Lowell, the head of the OSS Scientific development that we mentioned 389 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:55,639 earlier, with that hair brain scheme to poison Mussolini and Hitler was a defined 390 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:04,239 curse. Talks about wanting to matter master not just science, but also things 391 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:15,039 like religion as well. Casey has mentioned because he's one of the along with 392 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:24,360 So you got Donovan, you got Casey Colby. I'm not sure how many 393 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:34,079 other those are the Those are three prominent Roman Catholic CIA directors. There may 394 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,440 be more. I'm not aware of other ones that were particularly dullest. I 395 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:44,599 don't believe was I think he was Protestant Presbyterian. I think John Brennan was 396 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:52,760 not Catholic, but I think claimed to be Muslim or something. One of 397 00:37:52,760 --> 00:38:00,960 the early thinkers, a certain certain guy named Rody A r A d I. 398 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:07,360 He's a Hungarian immigrat zolt Arati, was one of the early guys to 399 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:14,639 proposed that as a Vatican insider, that the OSS should really look to the 400 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,320 Vatican to masters, to study it, and then they would have a systematic 401 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,000 approach to mastering and studying the world religions. Rodi drew attention to American intelligence 402 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:29,440 officers erroneous assumptions that the Vatican was religious rather than political. This is very 403 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960 important because what do you hear me often saying the Vatican is more of a 404 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000 geopolitical institution. That is how the OSS and they're accurate, and that understood 405 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,880 the Vatican in the nineteen forties and fifties. Well, see how you buy 406 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,320 the fifties. The penetration of the Vatican is a completely different entity from any 407 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,760 other intelligence operation because of the special singular position the Vatican has. The Vatican 408 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,599 is a state and at the same time it is not a state the Holy 409 00:38:55,639 --> 00:39:01,559 See Catholic Church. Right, these things must be understood, must be manipulated, 410 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:09,440 must be infiltrated, to understand the religious approach that the CIA would have 411 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:15,039 for the rest of the world. That's what that's what we're learned, he 412 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:19,159 said. Many of the OSS operatives, even though they might have been academics, 413 00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:23,480 they were very naive and so they didn't understand what the inner politics of 414 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,039 the Vatican wara. They didn't really understand Roman Catholicism. Many of them were, 415 00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:31,000 you know, liberal Protestants, the WASP side of the OSS and CIA, 416 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,000 So they didn't get this. They didn't know much about it and understand 417 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,800 it. So that's why the Catholic element of the OSS and Caia were so 418 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,639 important. And one of their key figures was the Dominican figure that we mentioned, 419 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,639 Felix mor Leone. The famous acumenist and who also worked on multiple movies 420 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:57,679 and Flowers of Saint Francis, and also played a key role in not just 421 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,599 promoting acumenism a lot about it two type of humanism by creating a Catholic international 422 00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:08,760 press and pro Dayou which was an OSS CIA front and we covered that in 423 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,719 the Gladiol. So the backset vindicates the Gladio literature. Mor Leon's relationship with 424 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,159 the OSS was eventually known as Operation Pilgrim's Progress. It was less of a 425 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:27,960 spy network than it was an information sharing agreement which basically informants aka journalists, 426 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:36,840 Catholic journalists, Roman Catholic journalists becoming basically a network of OSS informants. Now, 427 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:43,440 so not vindicate what we talked about for so long. And you might 428 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,039 say, well, but you know they were the good guys, they were 429 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:49,159 on the good side. I'm not even arguing about the good guy's bad guys 430 00:40:49,159 --> 00:40:55,280 side. I'm just pointing out that this demonstrates the proof of the view that 431 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:02,639 even prior to the CIA, you had this intimate link penetration of the Roman 432 00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:07,280 Catholic world by the OSS. See how he doesn't even exist yet, it's 433 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,440 already happened. And one of the key elements that Father Felix at mor Leone 434 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:16,239 and his ecumenist ideology would push throughout their literature, their magazines, and their 435 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:23,079 networks was the Americanist idea of religious liberty and Americanism. And they utilized Tomism, 436 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,960 as he points out and page thirty seven to push this agenda. For 437 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:35,639 example, the oss CIA articles in mor Leone's publications were things like here's some 438 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:44,400 of the article titles Thomism and his doctrine of democracy is the perfect form of 439 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:51,119 government. Well, that sounds just like John Courtney Murray. Doesn't exactly mor 440 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:55,159 Leone. Again, more details given about him. He doesn't mention Gladio, 441 00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,320 but he comes very close to Gladio by talking about the help that mor Leon 442 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:08,119 gave to the CIA in the nineteen fifties under Dallas in the battle against communism, 443 00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:14,400 supporting the CIA in every way possible because the Communists were almost successful in 444 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,519 nineteen forty eight ballot box. Mor Leone helped the intelligence agencies sway the Italian 445 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,239 votes against the Communists throughout the fifties. Okay, that's talking about William Colby 446 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,800 in his time in Rome and Gladio so even though he doesn't say Gladio, 447 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:35,920 that's gladio ish and adjacent to operations. This is the locust from which Gladio 448 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:45,159 will be cooked up. Thus, Operation Pilgrim's progress from Donovan eras his first 449 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:54,639 delegation meetings with the Vatican and then through mor Leone solidified the relationship between the 450 00:42:54,679 --> 00:43:01,960 American intelligence establishment in the Vatican right there. And there's this weird affair called 451 00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:09,679 the Vessel affair. This is some sort of fake document that caused a bunch 452 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:16,559 of conspiracy theories. James's Angleton apparently exposed that the document was a fake leak 453 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:28,480 and it had to do with people that were siding with the Access powers in 454 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:37,199 the Pacific theater. But what's interesting is that the document itself and the fake 455 00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,880 league is not that important. What's most interesting about this is that there's some 456 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:50,440 consideration that many versions of the story actually make Cardinal Montini the leaker. And 457 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,000 guess who Cardinal Montini is. Why he just happens to be Paul the six 458 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,960 And if Paul six is the leaker of this fake document for whatever reason, 459 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:08,039 this might also suggest the early compromise in whatever way by on the part of 460 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,599 the figure of Paul the six, and we do have in the Gladio literature 461 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:25,519 many statements that has pretty pretty well established that Kissinger Colby, many of these 462 00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:39,880 figures were meeting with the popes from Paul to six onward. Let's see the 463 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:53,639 next operations snap Dragon. Snap Dragon was one of the operations relating to high 464 00:44:53,760 --> 00:45:00,360 Church officials remove any and all indications of the connection with the Catholic Church. 465 00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:07,840 It might be embarrassing to the United States the Vatican hide the evidence since the 466 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:14,880 evidence appears on the manifest of such titles as a Vatican appeals to the Pope 467 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,920 after depand surrender. The OSS approved the program to relabel intelligence relationships with High 468 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,840 Church cardinals and Catholic groups under the innocuous code of snap Dragon. So the 469 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,119 official name of the continued program post World War two on the part of the 470 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:37,360 CIA with the Vatican and the high level officials is called snap Dragon. So 471 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:43,239 if you're saying it doesn't exist, there's the actual name of the program right 472 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,159 there, post World War two. And that's related to, but not identical 473 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:52,920 to the doctoral warfare program. Doctoral warfare program, I assume would result in 474 00:45:52,239 --> 00:46:00,199 things like snap Dragon. The OS then in the curious position, you know, 475 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,719 going to great links to hide what was largely an undramatic working relationship with 476 00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:12,239 major religious group. The most with them with a major religious group, the 477 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,840 organization contributed to American Purialism, not in the form of public service announcement, 478 00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:25,039 but actually through having future Catholic CIA directors and OSS members who would go on 479 00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:32,960 to you know, mentioned Donovan Colby case. Donovan's work did not go unnoticed. 480 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,159 At the ceremony of Colonel Spelman's personal residence in nineteen forty six, he 481 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:44,280 was given the papal Order of Saint Sylvester, so there and they usually they 482 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:53,159 will they hand those awards out for this kind of stuff. After this initial 483 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:58,679 forties fifties period though, even though the relationships with the Vaticant all obviously continued 484 00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,119 on and we've covered the multiple time to deal with that, Gladiol book of 485 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:07,679 Williams, the Kayler book both going to great details about that. Even the 486 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,599 Kayler book even mentions it. It's all great, Oh yeah, this is 487 00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:16,159 absolutely wonderful. That Kissinger is basically meeting with the popes all the time and 488 00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:23,480 telling them what to do, so not even controversial, but what's what is 489 00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:27,400 odd to me is just sort of the naivety that a lot of Roman Catholics 490 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,559 have. Oh it was a good thing, man, Yeah, Cia and 491 00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:34,920 John Paul Shock can help take down commies. Yeah, but I don't understand 492 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,119 that now that you're under new masters. This is why your church is going 493 00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:45,079 direction. That is, but whatever beyond making or attempting to make the Roman 494 00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:50,360 Catholic Church a tool of Americanism, the OSS figured out it would have to 495 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,760 master many other things. And the next thing that it set its sights on 496 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,639 at the time of the nineteen forties, of course, was the Pacific War 497 00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:01,559 theater, and then mastering Buddhism and Shinto and bringing in experts like D. 498 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,440 T. Suzuki. I don't know that Suzuki was a OSS operator, but 499 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,239 using his information, trying to learn as much, bringing in experts on these 500 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:20,719 topics. Why to master worldview warfare two so contradictions and divisions in the religious 501 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:28,800 ideological sphere, to pit Muslims against the Japanese Shinto. One of the OSS's 502 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:34,960 best sources of human intelligence was a father Condo French Catholic pretics affiliated with Operation 503 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,400 Pilgrim's Progress. That's the mor Leone Operation. And now whims go so far 504 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:45,119 as to say that Morleone was one of the key figures in arranging the ali 505 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:52,199 Agka attempt on John Paul the Second. So that was another key thing helping 506 00:48:52,239 --> 00:49:00,880 to quote in the Cold War. So Father Condo worked closely with the OSS 507 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:05,920 and they kept they kept asking him because he knew, I guess presumably about 508 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,440 a lot of a lot of what's going on in Japan. They said, 509 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,599 how do we stop these Kama cases? I mean, these days are nuts. 510 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:20,119 They're barreling into the ships and they don't care. And he had a 511 00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:27,519 hard time explaining to the American intelligence operatives at this time that the Japanese religion 512 00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:31,440 is not that concerned with being coherent. They don't really mind contradicting, And 513 00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:37,840 so that the officers understood it to be bizarre that you would have people that 514 00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:46,079 don't really have a philosophy of the afterlife, you know, being basically slew 515 00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:53,519 aside plane attackers. And Father Kindo says, well, well, that's why 516 00:49:53,519 --> 00:50:00,800 you can understand. This is not about consistency and logical coherence, you see, 517 00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:05,000 and this is a stumbling block for a lot of the intelligence stations from 518 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,159 the West. Then we get figures like Ed Lansdale here mentioned playing a key 519 00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:10,719 role in see has relationship with world religions, as he was, as we 520 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:17,079 said, very interested in Asiatic culture and religions. The Japanese loved proverbs, 521 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,159 and so he actually spent some time trying to concoct a bunch of Japanese proverbs 522 00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:29,800 to be used in psychological warfare. Another figure that you've heard me talk about, 523 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:35,199 of course, is Gregory bates and connected to the mk Ultra experiments. 524 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,280 Gregor Gregy Basins was in the OSS. He had the idea to this was 525 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,800 kind of a wild plan dump yellow dye in the Irrawadi River because Burmese believe 526 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:52,039 that yellow portended an end of foreign occupation. Thus, by dying the river, 527 00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:58,280 Batesen thought the Burmese would revolt against the Japanese. So they're trying to 528 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:05,519 do anything they could to stir up coups and rebellions against the Japanese, including 529 00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:14,760 then the plan they hot they hatched to rile up Islam against Japan during World 530 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:20,320 War two, and the idea was first to link democracy to Islam. Well, 531 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,079 this is kind of preposterous to me, but so they thought kind of 532 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:28,280 like the Fabian socialists did like well, used Islam as a tool of quasi 533 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:35,760 socialist democracy. And then when everybody's viewed as the sort of collective, you 534 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,599 know, we can turn the Muslim population to our desires, to our needs. 535 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,599 And that's exactly what this was about. Use Islam in the Pacific theater 536 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:52,440 to subvert and attack Shinto. And so they came up with all these bizarre 537 00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:59,280 plots and propaganda elements, which is pretty fascinating. Actually, Project Windpipe is 538 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:05,320 the most fascinating. The Project Windpipe is this idea that they could tarnish Japan's 539 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:12,079 image in the eyes of the Muslims by presenting the United States as a defender 540 00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:21,119 of religious freedom, whereas the Japanese will be presented as a pagan, backwards, 541 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:27,679 irreverent polytheistic tradition, which is interesting because I mean, I'm not super 542 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,440 deep Indi Shinto. I don't mean maybe it's pantheistic, maybe it's dualistic. 543 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,320 Maybe that could be turned some out of polytheism. But they came up with 544 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,840 this plan rather than the full with the philosophy and the theology. They started 545 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:47,840 to create banners and flags that intentionally riled up the Muslims by saying that the 546 00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:58,440 Japanese symbol of the rising sun was above phraseology of Muhammed. So the flag 547 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,480 would have an image of the rising sun and it would say something basically offensive 548 00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:07,320 to Muhammad, or they would actually say that the emperor is the true prophet. 549 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:13,400 And this was intended to basically cause the Muslims to go crazy. So 550 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,440 sowing division, to split and cause a war between Islam and Shinto was the 551 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:23,360 goal. I don't think that was actually that successful, but you could see 552 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:29,840 the types of ideas and strategies that they had, and really the goal was 553 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:35,199 just again to divide the religion as necessary. And this helps us to understand 554 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,840 a lot of other operations very similar to this Ukraine classic example, and we 555 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:46,440 just had it admitted in what multiple mainline publications that the Ukraine operation was one 556 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,800 of the biggest. There's just a human Events article with Prosobec and they're talking 557 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,920 about Ukraine was one of the biggest CIA operations in the history of the CIA, 558 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,760 and part of that would be their religious approach. As you can imagine. 559 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,920 Now we've done a good hour here, we're going to get into more 560 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,400 amount. Paul the six, John the twenty third, their relationships to the 561 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,599 OSS and CA, which vindicates and backs up other things that we've talked about. 562 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:20,719 We're gonna get into some of the other crazy operations that they would run. 563 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,800 We'll talk about the Four Freedoms again, which comes with wim Off, 564 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,559 but we're we're talking about militant liberty, which is is our operation. We'll 565 00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:34,679 talk about fake and staged comings of Jesus that we talked about the other day, 566 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,199 and other admissions of grand projects, some of which never came to fruition, 567 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,320 some of which did. That again give us an idea of exactly the 568 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,559 type of ideology that we're thinking of here on the part of the maschinations of 569 00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:54,639 operators in the CIA and things still going on today, even to the point 570 00:54:54,679 --> 00:55:00,320 of utilizing I'm not kidding cryptids. Literally you book over a level stuff. 571 00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:04,599 So we'll get into more of that because it was a great book, and 572 00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:08,760 I do recommend it. If you're interested in an academic, non conspiratoral read 573 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:15,880 the Grazziano book. It's great if you would remember to subscribe at the website. 574 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,880 Go to the website and you can subscribe to become a member. It's 575 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,480 very cheap. I've kept it very low for many many years, and the 576 00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:25,840 part two will typically be up a few days after the part once. 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Many of these great recommendations come from you, guys. 587 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,400 I think one of my best recommendations ever was from Jimbob. He recommended 588 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,760 to do a brief History of the Future by jog goat to Lee years ago, 589 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,679 and it was perfect. So thank you to whoever recommended Aaron into the 590 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:23,159 Wilderness. I'm looking forward to analyzing the rest of it and tying it into 591 00:56:23,199 --> 00:56:29,000 the other literature that we covered like a secret Agent sixty sixty six, the 592 00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:32,280 Gladiol books and the Ratio text, so we'll cover all that as well. 593 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,840 Leave me a comment below if you like it. 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