1 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:20,079 What is krakolacing fellow thermonuclear A efforts. I am Dan Valley coming at you 2 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:25,280 with podcast number twenty seven of thirty three of our twenty twenty three twenty twenty 3 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,079 four NBA preview series. We're on to the Golden State Warriors look ahead. 4 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:32,439 You know what that means. I believe this is year four of him mcgreen 5 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,719 to come back on and do this. We're talking to Sam Acindiari, the 6 00:00:35,799 --> 00:00:39,280 co host of the internationally famous Light Years podcast. As far, I just 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,119 feel like I see and hear you guys everywhere, even if it's not necessarily 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,640 in my podcast. Speed Sam, thank you for coming back and how are 9 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:49,439 you doing. I'm good? You know. I love the our yearly check 10 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:53,320 in preseason check in, where I generally have an optimistic tone. I don't 11 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:55,920 know, I've kind of like listened back and just listened to some of my 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,520 old stuff. I definitely am like the old guy who's just excited to spring 13 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,560 training baseball, like nothing can go wrong. You can't break my vibe. 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,159 And then you know, they start playing and either of the season goes well 15 00:01:07,239 --> 00:01:10,959 or it doesn't, but today everything's perfect. Look. The training camp mindset 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,000 impacts everybody. When I do over unders, I'm like, I have to 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,799 pull back wins from everyone because I just think everyone's going to hit their over 18 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:21,799 I am five teams are not winning fifty games, right. I am a 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,920 little surprised because you were able to talk yourself and then attempt to talk Andy 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,040 and then attempt to talk to your listeners into the CP three stuff like before 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,879 the game's ever happened. I'm not going to lie you. Going that route 22 00:01:32,879 --> 00:01:37,640 actually did surprise me. You know what. Part of it was just a 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,079 reaction to last year. I do last year was such a miserable year, 24 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:47,280 and we can trace it all back to the punch. It was nice to 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,959 see the Warriors just go to a new chapter. And the way I look 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:57,400 at the Chris Paul thing is one year could be traded midseason. Quite frankly, 27 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:01,400 they've used the word optionality an obnoxious amount of times all off season. 28 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,400 I don't know, it's it's like it's like they officially are throwing away two 29 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,759 timelines as a motto, and they're like, you know what, Steph's still 30 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:15,960 one of the best players in the league. We can win a title. 31 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,599 Let's worry about the future. In the future, it's Chris Paul the perfect 32 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:22,479 fit. No, but he does do certain things that can help the team, 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,439 and if it's weird, we can trade him at the deadline anyway, 34 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:30,199 because everyone always wants an expiring contract. I don't know. I didn't think 35 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:34,479 that Jordan Poole, four years, one hundred and twenty three million off of 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,039 the season he had, was going to be very movable. So when they 37 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,800 were able to get him for like, you know, an older but still 38 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,319 steady backup point guard type, like, I'm okay with it. Yeah, 39 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,159 it's I you know, I want to get into the Chris Paul stuff, 40 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:51,719 but it's just like it costs you. Basically, I call it a fake 41 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:53,000 first rounder. And then Patrick bald went out and there was a second in 42 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:57,599 there, and it's so it's like it wasn't even necessarily unless you believe that 43 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,719 Jordan Poole was actually a bridge into the next timeline. I don't think he 44 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:02,919 was. It doesn't even feel like it was. Oh it's mega urgency. 45 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,599 It's just this kind of made functional sense if you wanted to be a better 46 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,280 basketball team. Yeah, and it's like, look, I think Jordan Poole 47 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:14,759 is better than he was last year. I think if Plaerio was two years 48 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,199 ago is probably a better barometer of who he is as a player than the 49 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:22,560 one who was really frustrating last year and went through just obscene shooting slumps, 50 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:27,719 first stretches the time. But I don't think you're trading. I don't think 51 00:03:27,719 --> 00:03:31,680 this is okay. See training James Harden and you know, I think he's 52 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:37,319 gonna have a nice, long career. But that whole thing wasn't working an 53 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,719 end of the day, Steph Curry's the greatest player in franchise history, and 54 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,360 I have a very hard time matching they'll ever get a player better than Steph 55 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:46,840 Curry in my lifetime. You kind of just just go for it. It 56 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:52,919 wasn't working, onto the next one, lean into vets, lean into trying 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,159 to be spursy and just kind of see if you can, you know, 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,120 if you can pull one more title out of this core. The before going 59 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,560 a little bit deeper into the CB three stuff, what is there? We 60 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:04,879 know the punch, but is there anything else that you can illuminate on? 61 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:09,639 What went wrong? Were the vibes that all like, even breaking down to 62 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:12,759 their road defense of splits, It's just like everything was so some of the 63 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,639 injuries as well. Everything about this team was such a an inconsistent slog if 64 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,240 like, but like, is there anything you can shine on what actually went 65 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:26,519 wrong last season? And the punch was the manifestation for too many competing agendas 66 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:31,399 on that team. Jordan everyone everyone thinks it's about or Draymond and Jordan Poole, 67 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:35,000 and on some level it is, but it was more about Clay and 68 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:39,519 Jordan Poole. He could not get over the fact that he wasn't allowed to 69 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,120 he wasn't the starter. He thought he was better than Clay. He might 70 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,920 have been at some points, but you know, Steve wanted seniority and you 71 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,680 just kind of wanted him to buy in. I tend to believe I tend 72 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,639 to think if Jordan Poole bought into playing defense, he might have just made 73 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,519 him a starter and told Clay to come off the bench. Oh wow. 74 00:04:57,199 --> 00:04:59,720 I don't know if that's true to be, to be honest, but I 75 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,639 think the coaching staff was like, We're not just gonna start you. To 76 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,959 start, you gotta like kind of earn it quote unquote, and he thought 77 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,839 he already had. There was the James Wiseman thing where they cleared minutes for 78 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,800 him, and he just clearly was unuseful. The coaching staff didn't want to 79 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,800 play him. The front office kind of wanted him to play. Jonathan Kuminga 80 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,319 is another player who thought he earned more minutes than he wanted. I mean, 81 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,480 if you looked at the roster they had last year, you had the 82 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:26,600 bones of the team that won the title of the year prior, you know, 83 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,360 Steph Clay Draymond. You could throw Loony Wiggins the other guys into there, 84 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:36,439 and then all guys who are young wanting to prove themselves not win. 85 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,879 So it was it was the two timeline thing. You know, it didn't 86 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,759 get them the year before, but the year before they really had three young 87 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,839 guys. They didn't lean in this way like they had Otto Porter, not 88 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,160 Patrick Baldwin. I'm not gonna say Patrick Waldon wasn't even a problem. But 89 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,000 he's a nineteen year old rookie, Like he'd more deer in headlights in the 90 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,839 locker room than anything. Right, Andre Goadala didn't play all year. That's 91 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,839 the guy you thought could be a veteran helping the bench. Jamichael Green, 92 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,800 who you signed, not that guy? Like it the whole thing disintegrated into 93 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:12,839 individual agendas, is the way I would put it. What I found interesting, 94 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,079 And this happened a little bit more a lot of it with Ayton in 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Phoenix. Like to compare it to the Pool situation, I always just assume 96 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,759 it's like that man men line, that's what the money's for, right. 97 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:25,079 You're not happy with roll And obviously Jonathan Kaminga wants his next contract, Moses 98 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Moody doesn't. I was a little surprised, even after the punch that shit 99 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,399 went so sideways with Jordan Pool. I actually thought it was gonna be fun. 100 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:32,720 It's like, oh, he got his contract, and I said the 101 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,519 same thing with eight and I was like, they're paid now, like role 102 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:40,079 doesn't matter. I was clearly wrong. Yeah, I mean, Jordan Poole 103 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,040 wants to be an All Star, and you know what, like I think 104 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,120 he could. I don't you know, if you asked me, is he 105 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,040 give be an ulsto is here? Probably not, but it would not surprise 106 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,360 me. He's only twenty four. It would not surprise me if he turned 107 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:54,560 himself into an All Star. You know. Uh, that was never gonna 108 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,439 happen. Coming off the bench for the worst. That sort of thing right, 109 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,560 And I feel like the punch is kind of the manifested should have know 110 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:04,439 your place, you know type of thing. So yeah, and Aten's wired 111 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,879 the same way in the sense of Ayton has this idea of how he wants 112 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,040 to play and felt like he was held back a little bit. So so 113 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,040 it's not always about the money, you know. Sometimes it's about wanting to 114 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:18,720 prove you can do something. And that's like, that's why young teams don't 115 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:23,959 win titles, you know, that's why you know, that's why they're filled 116 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:27,879 with veteran guys. They're filled with like Dario Sarich types who's been around the 117 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:30,759 block and he's like, Oh, this is a team where I know exactly 118 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,240 what my role. I can help this team this way. I'm not out 119 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,480 here like saying I need the ball to prove I can score twenty. I 120 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,319 know I'm not that guy, right. So the Chris Paul move was and 121 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,360 I think because it happened so early, but because of what it represented for 122 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:48,720 Jordan Poole and then what CP three means to the Warrior fan base, it 123 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:51,199 got lost in the Dame stuff, even in the hard and stuff, in 124 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,600 every whatever the Celtics are. It feels like four seasons ago. Yeah, 125 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:58,680 it was, though, the single most polarizing moves of the off season. 126 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 I think, like, I know, there's other interesting stuff. So what 127 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,199 have your to start here? What have been your general impressions now that we're 128 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:07,839 into training camp in the preseason of the CP three experience So far? Everything 129 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:13,120 positive so far. I'm honestly curious to see what happens when Draymond actually comes 130 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,480 back from injury. Not because I think they're gonna clash, although they absolutely 131 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:22,319 could, but mostly because, okay, no Draymond in camp. We're just 132 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,519 gonna let Chris start. We don't have to work through any of that uneasy 133 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,879 tension. And he's you know, I mean, he's a first spout Hall 134 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,519 of Famer. He's professional like shocker. He knows how to play basketball even 135 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,080 though he's older. He knows how to help his teammates. The young guys 136 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,440 like him, the veterans like working with him. Like that. Stuff doesn't 137 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,519 doesn't surprise me. It's just like positive to see it. I don't think 138 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:50,200 we can really learn anything until he comes off the bench, and I do 139 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,720 think that's where Steve's gonna land with this. I think my prediction is Steve 140 00:08:54,759 --> 00:09:00,200 Kerr is gonna rotate the main six guys more than you think. It's not 141 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,720 going to be as much of a set starting lineup. He may bring Dram 142 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:07,759 off the bench a little bit and start small with Chris Paul. He may 143 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,720 yeah, he may bring Clay off the bench or Looney off the bench at 144 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:16,240 times too, just to make all those guys, you know, realize, 145 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,720 like, hey, you're all on equal footing. You're clearly the main guys. 146 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,000 But someone has to come off the bench every now and then. You 147 00:09:22,039 --> 00:09:26,399 know, what do you think? What are you most intrigued by? Aside 148 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,679 from we all know what he might be able to do for them during the 149 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,279 non STEF minutes? What most intrigue you about his fit and what he can 150 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,120 do for this team? Well, the non STEF minutes, the number one 151 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,879 you already alluded to that the number two would be him next to Steph with 152 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Draymond off the floor is pretty intriguing because how many players is Steph played with 153 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:52,240 who can actually dribble basketball? Oh shit, you know what I'm saying. 154 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,840 It's it's like and Kevin Durant. Everyone's like, this is unfair, you 155 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,399 know, But like every other Warrior team is it's kind of filled with dudes 156 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,759 who are smart and long, but not necessarily guys who can create their own 157 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:11,320 shot right right. And you know Jordan Poole when he was going, they 158 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,679 were unstoppable together because now you have that second shot creator next to him. 159 00:10:16,159 --> 00:10:20,480 But Jordan Poole is inconsistent with regards to playmaking. Chris Paul is obviously not 160 00:10:20,519 --> 00:10:24,159 an inconsistent playmaker. He's in point god, whatever you're gonna call it, 161 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,600 right, I'm curious to see what it looks like when you get like Chris 162 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,879 Paul Steph. Maybe you got Wiggins and kuminga two hyper athletic wings and Dario 163 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,879 Sarich stretch five, Like what is that line up? What are those type 164 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,320 of things like, because I think they'll blow people out offense, Like maybe, 165 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,399 yeah, a little slow in the backcourt. Maybe I wouldn't want that 166 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,879 backcourt guarding a Jahn Morant, But like, not that many teams you're playing 167 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,039 that can really expose that sort of lineup. So I'm kind of excited to 168 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,159 see some of the combinations they could run with Steph and CP together. What 169 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:03,480 is your biggest concern about, like him coming in it's not as much him 170 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:07,399 because I don't really think he's gonna be as much of a mouth like people 171 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:13,080 think that they're just gonna hate each other. Like every season CP three team 172 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,240 does well year one, it tends to be like your two three where he 173 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:20,519 grades on you a little bit, but everyone gets a little initial bump there. 174 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,159 And again if it's like if it's like a Westbrook Lakers experience where it's 175 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,039 just like, oh, this is gonna work, dy A'll get rid of 176 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,000 him in three months in February, you know, so that would not be 177 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,919 ideal, of course, but you know there's an easy out there, right. 178 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:39,000 The thing that concerns me is the thing that anyone would say at the 179 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:43,120 words do they have enough size? In general? Forget Chris Paul next to 180 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:48,919 Steph just like a lot of this roster hinges on Jonathan Kuminga actually taking a 181 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,600 step as opposed to being like a theoretical player who has these exciting flashes. 182 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:58,879 You know, if he takes a step, that's another six or eight wing 183 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,879 that's like your hair, some Barnes type, and then you can you know 184 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,679 they're still undersized. But it's kind of a warriorsy thing between Wiggins Clay Draymond. 185 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:11,200 You know you throw Kuminga in, there's a lot of wings to mess 186 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:16,039 with, right, Yeah, if he doesn't come around, I just don't 187 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,519 know what their best lineup combinations are because we know Draymond and Looney don't work 188 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:26,960 well together in most playoff matchups. Like, you can't play those two against 189 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,559 Ad for example, he just won't guard both of them and he'll and then 190 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,080 he'll get back and cover them if they ever try to shoot the ball in 191 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,279 any capacity. You know, they need to kind of find a way to 192 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:41,879 find that fifth guy to go with, you know, Steph Clay Wiggins and 193 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,600 whichever the two bigs that play. Yeah, I mean in Kaminga feels like 194 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,600 because that would have been my biggest question. I know a lot of people 195 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:50,600 like Bulkan the Warriors plays fast as they want to. Chris Paul's on the 196 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,039 floor, and I was like, even if he's not actually in front of 197 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,519 the break, like he knows how to trail it and get the ball moving. 198 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,679 Mine was just like, what are those that you mentioned Steph Curry and 199 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,320 Chris Paul. It tan't the on offense. I just don't like, what 200 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:05,120 is that? How do you build out the optimal defensive lineup around him, 201 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,200 and it feel like Jonathan Kuminga is mission critical to maybe doing that, especially 202 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 if you're mentioning, well, let's not have Draymond Green on the court at 203 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:16,440 all times during those those minutes. Yeah, I mean, Kuminga is the 204 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,679 question mark in the top the theoretical top eight nine of their rotation. You 205 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,039 know, like Darius arch is gonna come in and be the player he's been, 206 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 which is a solid backup big right, we know what he's doing, 207 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,639 Looney, we know what he's doing, you know, like we know what 208 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,279 those guys are doing. Kuminga is the one swing piece where it's like he 209 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,720 hasn't really proven it in the NBA. He's had some stretches where you're like, 210 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,399 I think he might be good, but he hasn't done it with consistency. 211 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,759 He obviously got benched in the playoffs that felt more disciplinary at times, 212 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:52,399 that felt more like Steve trying to get him to buy in than than like 213 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:56,840 a matchup thing. But all roads kind of lead back to him as their 214 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:01,600 one development gamble. So when you're looking at him, if we look back 215 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,120 on this season and it is the breakout campaign for Jonathan mingof he would have 216 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,240 finish this sentence, Jonathan Kamingo broke out, because like, what is the 217 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,039 one or maybe even two things that you'll be watching them most closely about. 218 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:20,159 How he fits in fairs within this rotation? Rebounding that's the one. It's 219 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:24,360 Yeah, I think I would like to say his jump shot, but I 220 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,120 don't think it's realistic to expect him to be a great shooter yet by any 221 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:33,759 like or even just like a confident one. What they need him to do 222 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,759 is be a guy who can use athleticism to make effort plays, and rebounding 223 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,480 is the one they continue to focus on with him. So uh, if 224 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,559 he becomes the more aggressive real Like, remember two years ago in the playoffs, 225 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,279 Andrew Wigans started rebounding like crazy and we're all like, huh, you 226 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,519 know, where has that been for seven years? Right? But like that 227 00:14:52,679 --> 00:14:56,440 was what they needed. That's kind of what I'm looking at with Kuminga. 228 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Can he do what Andrew Wiggins did, what Harrison Arnes did? Can he 229 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:03,519 be that type of wing You know, we're not going to run isolations for 230 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,440 you, but your presence is felt by hitting an open shot, you know, 231 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:13,080 cutting and you know dunking the ball off Steph's gravity and rebounding and making 232 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:16,799 the little place that's kind of what they want from him, and that's been 233 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,440 the issue the past two years, where he sees himself as you know, 234 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,679 a guy gets a ball in his hands and doing certain things. It's in 235 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:28,600 some ways it's really reminiscent of kind of young Andrew Wiggins. So it felt 236 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:30,360 like, at least when I was watching them, they were more of those 237 00:15:30,399 --> 00:15:33,000 little defensive plays from him, even if sometimes it probably took him out of 238 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:39,279 position to get rebounds, which is like, but so that's encouraging. Are 239 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:43,600 they prepared because you mentioned this, like there's an urgency just because Steph is 240 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,799 Steph right now, but you look at this roster makeup or they it does 241 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:50,639 seem like they're prepared to give him a longer rope this year, or at 242 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,240 least I think there's so many freedom to fail, but like it feels like 243 00:15:52,279 --> 00:15:56,559 there's a really big belief that he is going to make that leap into consistency 244 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:03,440 this season. My re on the way they built the roster out is we're 245 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,879 bringing in a lot of low maintenance, no nonsense veterans. Cory Joseph comes 246 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:11,840 to mind, just ten year pro, you know, he good locker room 247 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,440 guy. He's gonna help the younger players. They brought GP two back. 248 00:16:15,879 --> 00:16:21,960 Beloved ultimate teammate, would never complain if he if he gets a DMP three 249 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,919 games in a row, he's still going to be doing the good teammates stuff, 250 00:16:25,159 --> 00:16:26,879 Dario. Sorry, they brought in a bunch of those guys, and 251 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:32,440 in some ways it's because last year they over index going young and the other 252 00:16:32,879 --> 00:16:36,279 The other way you can look at it is, you know, if you 253 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,399 want to give a guy like Kuminga the space to succeed, surrounding him with 254 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:45,440 those type of guys is going to be way more beneficial for him. I 255 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,480 think Rudy Gay is gonna end up getting the last roster spot they have, 256 00:16:48,039 --> 00:16:52,240 and I think he's gonna be getting it mostly because they view him as like 257 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:57,039 the guy who can be in Kuminga's ear and help him and just like all 258 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:03,480 these you know, good teammate, veteran bench guy things like. I think 259 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,160 that's really what they're betting on, and they're trying to insulate it where it's 260 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,160 like we can get it out of him because we're gonna we're gonna build a 261 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:18,839 very like adult professional team, the Klay Thompson stuff, like, are we 262 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,319 supposed to really read anything into the hole? Will he be defending some power 263 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,000 forwards? Like what is it actually changing about what he did defensively last year, 264 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:30,680 which was still miles away from how they were using him defensively a few 265 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,119 years ago. So I just don't understand why there's all of a sudden this 266 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:37,319 uproar on St. Steve. Just I think he knew exactly what he's doing. 267 00:17:37,559 --> 00:17:41,920 He knew it. Getting you say power forward, it like makes people 268 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,799 think he's going to be defending Karl Malone like that even exists in the NBA, 269 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,640 you know, like he's a wing. He's gonna be guarding bigger wings. 270 00:17:48,079 --> 00:17:52,480 That's what they want from him. I think we all know he's not 271 00:17:52,519 --> 00:17:56,519 going to be guarding point guards anymore, right right. Clay's best attribute is 272 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:02,200 his strength Defensively, He can muscle up with an Aaron Gordon. He can 273 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:06,519 muscle up a Kawhi Leonard as well as any wing. Can you know he's 274 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,160 he's strong. But if he's gonna be the guy guarding those type of wings, 275 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:14,759 there has to be a little more focus on off ball defense. A 276 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:18,880 little more awareness in terms of being a help defender, and just you got 277 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,440 to help a little more in the glass too. You know, no one's 278 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,079 asking Clay to become a ten rebound per game guy, but you can't have 279 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,559 it. Can't be like, you know, Clay of the earliers of Dynasty, 280 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:30,039 where it's like twenty five points, one assist, two rebounds. You 281 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,240 know, I need a little more out of you there. And I think 282 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:37,680 that's what he means my power forward. Power forward. It's essentially it's like, 283 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,519 you're gonna you're not gonna be on ball, You're gonna be off ball. 284 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:42,519 So I need you to actually be a help defender. I need you 285 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:47,720 to not fall asleep off ball. I need you to box out off ball, 286 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,920 those sort of things. And when you talk about it that way, 287 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,920 you're like, you know what those are reasonable asks? You know those are 288 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,480 a reasonable ask. But when you say he's going to play power forward, 289 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,480 people's minds go to, oh, no, he has to guard Giannis one 290 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:06,160 on one man. Is there any like does he have to do anything different 291 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:07,960 offensively? Not even just this season, but as he's getting older, because 292 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,880 it felt like last year he'd like he shot the hell out of the ball 293 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,680 for a lot of the season, but they were just like these wild swings 294 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,359 from him, and then it felt like he reverted to some of the I'm 295 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,960 automatically gonna shoot her, I'm gonna try and put the ball on the floor. 296 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Is there anything smarter to just chang? Yeah? Be smarter, That's 297 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,480 what it is. I think the big takeaway like the Lakers series, obviously 298 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:32,160 that's the worst playoff series I've seen him play. He was I mean, 299 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,119 he tried to like talk about game six, Clay and then goes out three 300 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,440 for nineteen, you know, like it was. It was. It was 301 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:41,599 kind of a shitty way to go out. I think, you know, 302 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:47,200 he's not going to turn into like a pick and roll playmaker. I don't 303 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,680 think they're gonna start posting him up like Mark Jackson's right of the offense again. 304 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,160 Maybe here and there, but like he is good at it. But 305 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,039 it's like, I don't know how many how many post fadeaways a game do 306 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:00,119 you really need? Right? I think it's more just about re cognition being 307 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,920 a little more of a decoy understanding when you actually have four feet of space 308 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:07,960 versus a guy right in your face. Clay thinks he can hit a shot 309 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 on anyone, because he's proven he can hit a shot on anyone, and 310 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,319 that leads to him going, you know, kind of like that the Kobe 311 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:21,000 stereotype of like shooting with three hands in your face, Like just do less 312 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:26,559 of that and they'll be fine. Because even if he's thirty four next spring, 313 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,240 even if he's older than that, no one's leaving him wide open, 314 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:33,319 right, so he's willing to use if he's willing to just use his gravity 315 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,119 to open up stuff to get Wiggins a donk or stuff like that, like 316 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,759 he's still an effective offensive player. There's a little bit of a pointless question 317 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,960 because I don't think either way he leaves. But would you bet for against 318 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:48,799 there being a Clay extension because it seems like he was pretty open to it. 319 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:52,279 I think he just talked to uh Anhi Slater the athletic and it seems 320 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:56,519 like he was pretty much all four exp I was, yeah, he talked 321 00:20:56,519 --> 00:21:00,440 to Slater, And when I saw that the way or when I when I 322 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,960 listened to the way he actually said it, I was like, damn, 323 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,359 he kind of sounds like he's like asking for a contract, Like it's not 324 00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:10,680 like him being like I want a Max and the Warriors being like, no. 325 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:12,839 It seems like it's kind of like Warriors aren't offering him a contract. 326 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,720 It's like, you know, guys, I don't want that much. You 327 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:19,480 know that type of thing. I said on my show, I'm betting against 328 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:25,240 it being signed before the season. I think the Warriors want the optionality in 329 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:29,799 the season like him and CP three is expirings and see what's going on there. 330 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,880 But I do think he will be resigned next offseason. I just think 331 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 it's gonna be one of those things where they probably don't come together in the 332 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:40,680 next week, and that's fine. He'll play it out, he'll get extended. 333 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,920 That's just my guess. Andy, my co host, thinks. The 334 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,839 other way is like the way he's talking, it sounds like a guy he's 335 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,680 willing to sign if he gets offered what Draymond got offered. He wants to 336 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,960 sign it just to play it safe, right now? Would you if you're 337 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:56,400 the team just removing what he emotionally means to this branch is like, do 338 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,640 you pounce at that? If he's willing to sign like the Draymond on Pype 339 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,319 deal, or maybe even for a little less I think I think you have 340 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:11,720 to because I just don't see that as a contract that's toxic for you, 341 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:17,240 you know, like taking all emotion out of it, which you kind of 342 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,559 have to do. The decision the Warriors need to make is are we willing 343 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:22,880 to give up flexibility? Are we willing to give up the flexibility that not 344 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,680 extending Clay gives us? Like I don't know what if Joel Embiid becomes open 345 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:30,279 and we want to be players in something like that, it's better to have 346 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:33,519 expiring contracts than a newly you know, inked up guy for four or five 347 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:37,519 years who's older, right, that sort of thing. And I'm not saying 348 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640 they would trade Clay even if he did came available, but it seems like 349 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,000 they're valuing the fact that, you know, if this doesn't work the way 350 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 we want it to, we can pivot to a new era of Steph or 351 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,119 next to someone else without a Clay or Wiggins or something like that. But 352 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,559 what that's But back to your point, I mean, it's hard if he's 353 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,359 if he's willing to take twenty to twenty five given the market, like that 354 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640 makes him what the eightieth highest paid player in the NBA or something dumb like 355 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,559 that. It's like of like the salary cap moving forward, like that's what 356 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,799 the number would just settle into. And probably less if it's at like a 357 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,119 either if it's a declining rate or a steady, steady rate. I mean, 358 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,960 that's that's uh, that's Lonzo Ball, Marcus Smart, Dylan Brooks, 359 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,359 Malcolm brogged In, Norm Powell money, Heldon Johnson money. You know, 360 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,480 I don't think that's a number that like that. It's pretty team even as 361 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,039 he gets older. That's that's how much Boyon Bogdanovich makes. That's Evan Fournier 362 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,640 money. You know, I just think, well, I'm not saying all 363 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,000 those are great contracts, but but you know, you know what I'm saying, 364 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:48,480 Like, I just I can't see the Warriors passing up if he's willing 365 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,920 to go that low on number. Uh. Andrew Wigs was kind of all 366 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,000 over the place after the adductor injury and then his dad was sick and he 367 00:23:56,039 --> 00:24:00,559 was absent from the team. Do we read anything like long term into the 368 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,599 kind of that inconsistency rollercoaster specifically on offense, or is it just let's chalk 369 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,960 it up to the hell fire that was last season. I think you're correct. 370 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,359 I think I think last year is a miserable season for him. He 371 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,880 had an injury. He's been pretty durable his whole career, but you know, 372 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,359 he was injured. Then he had a family matter, and you know 373 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,079 he ended up playing what only forty six games like that, right, a 374 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:30,640 really low number. I think that's another reason I'm like quasi bullish on this 375 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,480 team, because I think he bounces back. You know, maybe he'll never 376 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,279 hit the highs he hit in the twenty twenty two playoffs ever again, but 377 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:42,200 there's a lot of room between that guy and just the no show guy last 378 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:47,680 year. He's very comfortable in their system. The role is tailor made for 379 00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:51,759 him where he never has to dribble the ball. He gets to use that, 380 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,759 he gets to do the things he's really good at, and then there 381 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:57,119 are moments where he gets to take over because teams are triple teaming Steph Curry 382 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,640 and next thing, you know, Wiggins has twenty two points on mostly like 383 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720 open catch and shoots and like cuts right, like those type of things. 384 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,200 So I I, you know, I think I think he bounces back. 385 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,480 I also think it's not that hard for him to bounce back in this Warrior 386 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,640 system because the role fits him. That's why I keep saying Kuminga is the 387 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,400 swing piece, because he's the only one they're asking to do something no one's 388 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:26,240 technically actually seen him do to date. So and also, by the way, 389 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,519 a down season for him now where it's like, okay, the defense 390 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,960 was mostly there and he still shot almost forty percent from three on seven at 391 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,400 tens per thirty six minutes, like that's I mean, I would say the 392 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,319 down season is he didn't play and you know, like and then when he 393 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,720 came back in the playoffs, he couldn't hit any threes because well, he 394 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:47,359 hadn't played for an extended period of time and there's rust there, right. 395 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,240 But yeah, Like to your point, if you look at his permanent numbers 396 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,599 in the games he played in the regular season, it looks the exact same 397 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,480 as the year before. I was praising him about, right, right. 398 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,640 The other thing that is fastinating about this team to me anyway, what is 399 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Moses Moody's role this year and what would be watching just most closely for when 400 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,160 he even last year felt like I don't know, there's I don't want to 401 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,960 call it feel but it felt like he just fit and worked, and that's 402 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,079 what made it frustrating that he had an extended period where he was out of 403 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:23,519 the rotation in favor of Anthony Lamb. You know, I kind of thought 404 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:27,160 he was going to establish himself in the rotation last year and things just didn't 405 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,920 break for him that way. I do agree with you. He has a 406 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,359 level of feel and like he should be an easy plug and play player for 407 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,119 them. I think he's gonna be another shooter off the bench, another guy 408 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,319 who's long, who can guard multiple positions on defense, another guy who competes 409 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:48,160 pretty hard. I wouldn't be surprised if he pushed himself above twenty ish minutes 410 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,240 a game and they used him use them a lot and to kind of let 411 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,799 them keep Clay's minutes lower. But yeah, I mean he is kind of 412 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,519 the buried one of the topic because I'm spending so much time at Kuminga, 413 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,440 right, uh right, I mean, And it's also just like Cominga's not 414 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,079 I know, he can guard wings, but like when you're talking about offense, 415 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,720 like Kaminga isn't necessarily like a wing on offense like you have Wiggins. 416 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,240 And No, he's kind of like he's kind of like the role man. 417 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,279 He does a lot of the like a lot of the you know, okay, 418 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,720 pass past kumga cup for a dunk, you know that sort of stuff. 419 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:22,000 So right, and so having that, if you're gonna start Clay and 420 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,559 Andrew Wiggins, having like that secondary wing come off the bench, is I 421 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,160 mean pretty important. So so you think he's gonna play consistently over twenty minutes 422 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,400 a game this year, I'm penciling him at like eighteen ish, but I 423 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,039 would not be surprised if he got all the way up to like twenty five 424 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,519 ish minutes a game. When you start naming all the names that are going 425 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:47,200 to have to play, this rotation is a quasi deep roster. Now we 426 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,359 might have thought that a year ago, but you know, young players turn 427 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,440 the opposite way and next thing you know, you're like, we don't have 428 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,240 anyone we trust, you know, So could go either way, but I 429 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,319 think there's opportunity for him to kind of be the bench unit show. Does 430 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,920 that make sense? Right? And I don't mean to disparage Gary Payton by 431 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,079 not calling him Gary Payne. The second by not calling him a wing. 432 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,119 I don't know what he would be classified as, like a center guard. 433 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,720 I don't like, I don't really know what to call him. I mean, 434 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,839 I kind of think what the Warriors want Kuminga to do is just do 435 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,799 what GP two does, but be six inches taller. That's that's like literally 436 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,480 what they want. And it's like play defense, use your athleticism to be 437 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,359 a ball hawk, and then just like use athleticism to be kind of the 438 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,759 five man on offense. And you know, no one really knows, but 439 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:33,480 we didn't run any plays for you, but you got twelve points of fifteen 440 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:36,960 minutes type of thing. It's there if he can figure it out. A 441 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,759 lot of that's just GP being really intuitive though, speaking of quasi depth, 442 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,039 Steve Kerr seems in love with pods on both ends of the floor, which 443 00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:51,279 is not something that's coming. I was just looking at a quote, Yeah, 444 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:53,599 do is there? I mean, there's no chance he like plays a 445 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,400 real role on this team, But do you have any general early impressions of 446 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,359 his game, what he could be, how he might be useful down line 447 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:07,960 to this? Yeam, I think there's a reasonable chance he helps them eat 448 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:11,279 regular season minutes this year. He's a rookie. I will be shocked if 449 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,839 he plays meaningful minutes in a playoff series at any point this year. But 450 00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,680 the thing Steve keeps pointing out to and it showed in the first preseason game, 451 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:25,640 is he's really quick mentally, He like completely understands what to do. 452 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,599 And that's gonna Steve's gonna fall in love with you if you're thinking one play 453 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,559 ahead at all times. You know, like that's just his type of player, 454 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,759 And honestly, if it keeps translating, he will throw him out there 455 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,200 a little bit. Like Steve Kerr is not afraid to play guys who have 456 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,039 high feel and or good passers, regardless of their size, regardless of a 457 00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:45,519 combinations, Like we know he's up to that sort of thing, right, 458 00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,240 So, I don't know, it's it's been fun to see a rookie who 459 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,640 kind of has the opposite skill set of the last few rookies they drafted, 460 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,640 you know, like Pods's he's not undersized, but he's not particularly big, 461 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:06,160 and he's a particularly impressive athlete by NBA standards, but he has incredibly high 462 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,240 feel and like a lot of touch. So it's like it's like they it's 463 00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:11,880 like they had to go the complete opposite way of the players that drafted the 464 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,519 last couple of years. I don't have any Draymond or Steph Curry questions, 465 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:19,400 but we have to talk about them because they they're Draymond and Steph Curry. 466 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,640 Like, do you have any new thoughts or concerns about either of these players? 467 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,519 Do you expect even when Draymond and Chris Paul You know you mentioned CP 468 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,480 three playing with Steph, do you maybe see instances where the Warriors try to 469 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,160 go full bore and maximize those non Steph minutes and see a lot of Draymond 470 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,759 and CP three together. I know they're reluctant and shown to stagger Draymond and 471 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,680 Steph, but like, how do you view like maybe those two CB three 472 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:48,039 and Draymond operating together? I think they can. I think it'll be interesting 473 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,880 because Draymond is kind of the point guard was on the floor. Some of 474 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,440 that's because he doesn't really have a role if he's in the ball in his 475 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,799 hands, but they do so much, you know, rip and Ron off 476 00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,839 the rebound because he trusts Draymond to make decisions, go straight into a DH 477 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,240 O and then just let Steph cook that sort of stuff. It'd be interesting 478 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,559 to see how he plays with Chris Paul more from a pace perspective, because 479 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Draymond's mentality is like run, run, run, right, He's not a 480 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,319 half court offensive guy, so he's trying to get the team into transition as 481 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,440 much as possible. Chris Paul is the opposite. You know, I'm gonna 482 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,319 slow it down and I'm gonna make the right play, and because that's how 483 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:30,000 I like to play, right, So I don't know it it'll be I'm 484 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,440 curious to see how those two team together because on the one hand, they're 485 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,000 both so smart that something has to work with the two of them. On 486 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,000 the other hand, like just on paper, the fits awful right, and 487 00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,599 but you almost want to see it or experiment with it because if if there's 488 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:49,000 any chance of you having that optionality and higher leverage moments, like it can't 489 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,720 always just be about staggering because the minutes that matter, like you technically want 490 00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:56,400 all your best players on the court. Maybe that ends up being the five 491 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,279 man unit with Looney and CB three just on the bench and it's Wiggins and 492 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:01,240 Klay Thompson or there with them. But I'm hoping they like do it just 493 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,359 made them like experimenting a bunch with like sort of some of these different lineup 494 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,440 and stagger patterns to see what they really have in the CP three fit. 495 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,960 Yeah, I do think it's possible that they're well, I know they're gonna 496 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,119 experiment in the early season. I know we're gonna see some Steve Crow lineups 497 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,880 where you're like, I don't know, man, I don't know about that 498 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200 one. I don't know, you know, but it's you know, better 499 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,759 to do that stuff early than later, right, Like, So, I 500 00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:30,519 don't know. Steve Kurtz kind of a mad man. Sometimes he throws out, 501 00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,200 you know, a lineup where the tallest players six' five and you're 502 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,200 like, what are we doing right now? We just saw we just saw 503 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,279 him play mckel bridges at center in FEEBA ball, So you know he's not 504 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,440 afraid to zig, right, So how big of a loss do you view 505 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,079 as Bob Myers to this organization and what level of trust do you have in 506 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,079 Mike Dunleyley Junior and also Kirk lakeub of like okay, like we're gonna be 507 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,680 more than just like ride out this goodwill that we have from the four championships, 508 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,279 and we're really going to try and maximize what we have left of this 509 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,680 just the best player in franchise history is probably one of the ten greatest players 510 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,839 of all time, Like he's still in his prime window. Yeah, I 511 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:12,160 mean in I have as much faith as one could reasonably expect to have given 512 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,359 it happened in May. Mike Dunleavy was his right hand man, and so 513 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:21,599 is Kirk lacub. A lot of the Warriors' decisions are kind of consensus brain 514 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,920 trust decisions. They're not like a one man operation. This isn't like a 515 00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,759 I'm trying to think of a good example, like Darryl Morey tends to just 516 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,559 kind of like everything goes through him, right type of thing. I don't. 517 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:36,039 They don't. They don't operate. It's it's a consensus type of thing 518 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,920 with the Warriors. So I don't know. We'll see, Like it's hard 519 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,920 to argue with the results during Bob's tenure, right, So I'm curious to 520 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,160 see how this goes. But in terms of first off season and moves, 521 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,279 they're saying all the right things. I like the moves that they made. 522 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,559 They also didn't paint themselves into a corner with aggressive gambles, Like, yes, 523 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,079 Chris Paul is weird, but there's a very there's like a very easy 524 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,240 pivot off it, you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I 525 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,000 kind of like what they did, and I'm willing to let it play out 526 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,960 a little bit before making a definitive decision. And do you think and you've 527 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,880 kind of alluded this, but I want to make sure that I'm not like 528 00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,199 misquoting it here, that they have the guts, the gall too if a 529 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,159 mid season opportunity arises, whether or not Chris Paul's being a good fit, 530 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,480 that they would make that kind of a shake up if the right player becomes 531 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,880 available, rather than kind of playing it safe. I do, and I 532 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,840 think that could potentially be the biggest shift between this front office and the Bob 533 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Myers one. Bob is very what's the word I want to say, Bob's 534 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:44,000 Bob's pragmatic. He's not a guy who's gonna like wholesale half his roster at 535 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,880 the trade deadline. He's a big like, let's see it play out, 536 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,239 let's move this slowly, let's not try to panic that sort of thing. 537 00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:52,880 Now. I'm not saying Dunlevy's like going to panic trade left and right, 538 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,119 but I do get the impression he's gonna be a little more aggressive. And 539 00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,960 yeah, if the case scenario for the words happens where Chris Paul and Draymond 540 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,599 are just not working and this and that, I do think he trade Chris 541 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,760 Paul at the trade deadline. I do think you he'd just be like, 542 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960 it's not working, you're on this is the business, you know. I 543 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,320 mean, he said, I'm not trading Jordan Poole. What do you mean? 544 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,159 We want him here forever and trade him two days later? You know. 545 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Yeah, And he was pretty he was pretty steady about it. He's 546 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480 kind of this has been brought up to me, but it's like he's a 547 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:30,519 lifer. He's not. He's been traded himself multiple trips. He's kind of 548 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:35,519 gotta he's desensitized to like that side of the business. So I don't think 549 00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:42,079 he would hesitate to act if he thought it made the team better. There's 550 00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:45,599 also they have a sneaky like they can still trade a couple first in their 551 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,760 swaps, and there's kaminga and there's movie CP three expierment, Like they have 552 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,639 a sneaky they're not gonna outbit everybody, but they they still have real stuff 553 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,599 to move without touching their their particularly when you look at like Steph's age. 554 00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:59,960 If they want to put some of those later picks on the table, they're 555 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:00,920 theres gonn be some teams just like, man, are they going to be 556 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,400 good on stuff's forty? You know, like like a lot of you know, 557 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,079 like it kind of just what you saw with the Bucks trade, right, 558 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,239 like that is a that is a bet against the Bucks future that Portland 559 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,960 made, you know, and it could be a fair one given the ages 560 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,320 of the guys when they get there, you know. So they do have 561 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,760 stuff, and I think the expiring contracts are a big piece of that too. 562 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,400 So I think they're I think they're open to it. I just think, 563 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,280 having seen how they operate, they're not trading picks in twenty twenty eight, 564 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,760 twenty thirty like that sort of stuff unless it gets a guy who they 565 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,519 think could reasonably be a bridge with Steph like that, like like it would 566 00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,599 happen. It's not going to be like, oh, we're going all in 567 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,320 on og Ananobi type exactly, and and apparently that's what miss I wants for 568 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,199 og So yeah, exactly, it's got to be like we're getting a true 569 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,960 number two star with Steph for one, we are entering the cookie cutter portion 570 00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:00,000 of the podcast. Now, are there any strengths or weaknesses that we have 571 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,400 and discussed that are maybe flying under the radar or not being talked enough about 572 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,360 with regards to this team. I mean, I think everyone thinks they're going 573 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,519 to be too small, So I don't know that weaknesses are being under discussed. 574 00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,440 I just I don't think enough is being put into how terrible their bench 575 00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:22,239 units have been. When Steff's off the floor and Chris Pault thirty eight should 576 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,559 be able to command a net neutral bench and they have a good combination of 577 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,440 players to go with it. I kind of think they're being slept on. 578 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,719 And how many wins they can potentially just rack up in the regular season playoffs 579 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,400 could be a different animal, because I'm not sure if they have the five 580 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,960 million units they've had in the past that you can trust. But I think 581 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880 I just don't think about how reliable that's starting five last year was when they 582 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,599 played together with statistically a killer it is. It is, and it's good, 583 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,920 and it's also like you know, it doesn't work against specific teams because 584 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,880 of Luney and Draymond's offensive limitations, but like against the field poins, So 585 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,920 I don't know. I feel like it's being slept on how much Chris Paul 586 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,599 can actually help the bench and just contribute to wins like they could they should 587 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:12,280 win fifty games. Do you think that they're going to change, not like 588 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,440 overhaul the way that they're used to playing, but like, are we going 589 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,480 to see more of, like maybe a traditional offense when Chris Paul's running point 590 00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:21,119 on his own or is he really going to be kind of like grossed into 591 00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,440 the way that the Warriors want to play. I think they're gonna They're gonna 592 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,800 make him play the way the Warriors want to play when he's playing with Steph 593 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,679 and Clay and just there's just so much stuff that they do that you'd be 594 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,920 foolish not to have him figure out how to work in that system, right. 595 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,880 But I think when it's backup units with no Steff on the floor, 596 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:45,440 they might go with the traditional CP double drag screen offense and just make Kuminga 597 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,800 the role man and Sarwich and just like, look, man, we don't 598 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,000 need to reinvent the wheel. When Steph's not out there, go with what 599 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,360 works. It'll be steady defend, get some high percentage shots and boom, 600 00:38:55,559 --> 00:39:00,039 throw stuff back in there and cause chaos. When when you're looking at sort 601 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,840 of the ten man rotation, the top ten guys who are gonna play, 602 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,000 does it feel like there are just ten locks for this, Like it's just 603 00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,880 you have the top six their CP three and then we go right into well, 604 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,800 Gary Payton, the second, Johnathan Amga, Moses Moody, and Dario 605 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,679 Saariz. Like, where is the do you expect if Rudy Gay makes the 606 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,320 roster to actually crack that top ten type thing or is anyone else? No? 607 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,760 I think you're right. I think the reality is Steph's gonna miss a 608 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,599 handful of games, Chris Paul miss a handful of games. And you know 609 00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,559 that's where the Corey Joseph's of the world come in. That's where maybe Pajemski 610 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,840 gives them a little thing here and there. That's where Rudy Gay can give 611 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,599 them some minutes because Draymond maybe is you know, missing a few games here 612 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:43,679 or there, and that's how those guys get their minutes. Like end of 613 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,599 the day, four of their top six are over thirty and two of those 614 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,079 guys are over thirty five, there's gonna be games missed, there's gonna be 615 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,800 precautionary rest, even though Adam Silver says we shouldn't do it anymore. And 616 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,039 there's gonna be opportunities for the rest of the roster. But to your point, 617 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,880 fully healthy locked in playing the Nuggets, playing the Lakers, you know, 618 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,800 games they want to have. I don't expect them to go much deeper 619 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,400 than those guys. I'm gonna put you on the spot because you've already mentioned 620 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,760 it'll be a lot of as we matchup dependent be fasterward to the end of 621 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:23,880 this year. What ends up being their most used crunch time unit. I 622 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,840 think it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be the one that everyone expects, 623 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,559 which is Chris Paul and the hyper small ball unit. I think it's 624 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:35,719 gonna be Steph. You're talking about just what's the most used crunch timelineup right? 625 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,320 Yeah, just like high stakes moments, And I know they can do 626 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,079 a bunch of different things, but like, what's gonna end up being a 627 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:44,280 five minutes Steph, Chris Paul, Clay Wigans Draymond, which is tiny, 628 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,760 right, but I think they're gonna go with that in those like three minutes 629 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,559 left. We need to take this game home. Let's get them out there. 630 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,440 My Galaxy brain was I feel I could it be because like Loony, 631 00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:01,559 Draymond wigging Paul and Steph, But like the idea of having, like in 632 00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:06,920 a playoff game and it's crunch Clay's on the bench just feels dirty. So 633 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,840 I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to go with that one. But that 634 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,679 was the one that I kind of thought a lot about. I do think 635 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,559 we're gonna see games this year where Clay doesn't close. We'll see games where 636 00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,519 they go with Looney instead of Draymond. We'll see games. We won't see 637 00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:21,480 games where Steph doesn't close. I'll put it that way. Well, that 638 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:23,840 would be stupid. I think we'll send every I know. I think we'll 639 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,960 see every other guy of that you know, Big six be on the bench 640 00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:31,639 for crunch time at some point this season. And I actually get the feeling 641 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,280 that that's kind of Steve wants that to happen. He wants them to close 642 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,199 a game with Clay on the bench once just to be like, you're important, 643 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,679 but you know we can win other ways. You know, I wants 644 00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,400 to close once with Chris Paul on the bench just so he understands, like, 645 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,320 it's not you know, it's not twenty seventeen where you're the point God 646 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,920 or something like that, you know, and and on down the line. 647 00:41:55,079 --> 00:42:00,239 Close without Draymond because of Looney, is a better matchup against like Sabona or 648 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,519 something, just because hey, that's what we want to do. I do 649 00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:08,239 expect there to be, Like my biggest take is they're not going to have 650 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,559 a consistent starting or closing lineup. It's going to be the same seven or 651 00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,199 eight guys, but they're going to rotate them a lot. Though. I 652 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:20,360 wouldn't be surprised if they started kuminga for random games and they went with the 653 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,760 Steph Clay Wiggans kuminga Draymond lineup. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if 654 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,480 that happened. So I just think there's a lot of I would say opportunity, 655 00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,599 but I think I think that they're going to be a little more mix 656 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:37,800 and match heavy than they are traditionally. If they're going to be that experimental, 657 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,239 this actually makes this question have some substance when it normally doesn't. What 658 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,239 is a weird old lineup? Maybe they won't try it. Do you think 659 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:57,280 that they should. I want to see Steph. I want to see the 660 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,280 one I said earlier. I'll keep it. I'll keep it simple. Step 661 00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:06,920 Wiggins, Kuminga sarich Okay. I got the two hyper wings, the stretch 662 00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:10,760 five who can pass and do kind of the boget uh you know, be 663 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,639 Elita like you know, be kind of a a hub of offense from the 664 00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:19,159 elbow. Big. You got CP and Steph together, I don't know, 665 00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:22,079 it could be a lot of fun. I just want to see this Steph 666 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,679 plus kids line up. Just let's sell the two timeline out there. Well, 667 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,079 so that's kaminga moody pod Steph and uh I really look, I'm just 668 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,239 gonna throw he's on a two way. I just wanted to lose Mongarooba out 669 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,280 there. I'm in love with Who's still, don't I do? I would 670 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,960 not be surprised if he got his way into the rotation. They he's he's 671 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,199 a warriorsy player. We'll see, We'll see if he develops fast enough. 672 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,360 But like the skill set fits how the Warriors want to play for sure. 673 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:52,079 Uh. I celebrated every quarner three he hit last year. So I'll be 674 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,360 all about that. No, it's interesting. We just did our over unders 675 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,679 pods for the league. The Warriors total to move down since we did it 676 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960 was on two days ago. It's at forty seven and a half right now. 677 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,400 Would you take the over the under on that? I take the over. 678 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,840 I think they won forty four games last year. Uh, and they 679 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,199 swapped a bunch of mouth contents for Chris Paul, who tends to rack up 680 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,519 wins. I think they'll be a safe bet for forty eight wins if they 681 00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:22,760 stay reasonably healthy. In general, let me put it this a way, 682 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,760 They're either gonna win over forty eight or they're gonna win under thirty eight. 683 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,960 That's my prediction. I think they're either gonna either Father Times catching up and 684 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,480 there's gonna be a lot of injuries and that sort of type of season, 685 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,559 which I you know, don't want to happen, but it's always possibility, 686 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,840 right, or they're gonna be a normal NBA team with you know, maybe 687 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,840 Steph plays sixty three games, maybe Chris Paul played sixty games. You know, 688 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,000 like, nothing substantial, but nothing that terrible either, And I think 689 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,679 given the veteran upgrades they made, that's probably a team that gets you close 690 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,800 to fifty wins, maybe even mid fifties, but I feel forty eight a 691 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,199 safe bet. Uh. This question has been interesting because of how wide open 692 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,639 the West is and looking at just the regular season, because like play us 693 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:09,360 a different animal. Are there any teams that you would guarantee to have a 694 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,760 better record than the Warriors in the West right now? Yeah, Denver. 695 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:22,440 I think Denver's combination of like they're defending champions. Every one of their core 696 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,199 players is younger than the Warriors' core player, Like they're all in like the 697 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:31,119 perfect age sweet spot where I'm not concerned about health and they just rack up 698 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,320 wins. Man like, I would be very surprised if Denver isn't a top 699 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,599 two seed. Again, Oh yeah, I'd be shocked. Other than that, 700 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,880 I don't know if Phoenix should be a flamethrower, but I wouldn't be 701 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,280 surprised if they were kind of like the Warriors were. It's unclear about how 702 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,760 many of them are sitting in lineup every night and that sort of thing, 703 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:53,519 and then everyone else, Like, I don't know, I could, I 704 00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:58,760 could. I could paint a case for two being the two seed or the 705 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,400 play in for eight eight eight teams in the West, and the Warriors are 706 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,559 one of those teams. So I think I just I'm more. I have 707 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,280 more faith in the Suns than you do. I think. I think there's 708 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,599 a clear top two and everything else is wide open. Sam, I know 709 00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:13,000 you have to go. Can you just tell our listeners where they can find 710 00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,159 you and all the great work that you do. Yeah, Sam's fandi are. 711 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,920 You can find me on Twitter, check out the light Years pod, 712 00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,239 Apple, Spotify, all pod players. Yeah. I appreciate you. Yeah, 713 00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:24,719 I appreciate you as well. Thanks as always for coming on. I 714 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,400 will talk to each you