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Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye

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on the Ball here on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, he's

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Jagan's us got our new guy,
Adam, So we screw up. We're

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believing that it's all on you,
baby, it is. It is Adam.

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I don't know what I tell you, I know what you tell you.

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It's rookie initiations. This is as
far as it goes with us exactly.

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All right, man, Hey,
welcome to Thursday. I thought today

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it was Friday. It felt like
a'm Friday. I know, Dave.

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I want to get to that weekend
because then we get one more day and

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we're after them. Off to the
tournament, Off to the tournament. Yes,

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yes, Well, congrats to the
women's team who advanced last night.

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Yeah, I watched a lot of
that game. It was a nice game.

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They you know, they had a
nice lead, gave up the lead

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then know just hung on so and
made the plays they needed to make.

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So I'll ask you this after I
apologize, apologize to miss Poyle. She's

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a fantastic player. She's a really
good I didn't know that she was the

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fantastic player like she is. She
could do a lot of things. And

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maybe because I haven't seen enough of
the women's game, but holy crap,

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she could play. And and the
thing of it is, Steve. You

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know, there's just a feeling that
she could do more. Yeah, right,

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but she was key last night.
She had some he plays a bunch

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of you know, her defense has
been where you know, she hangs her

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proverbial hat and and I think that
it hopefully this this is kind of a

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sign of Okay, this is this
is postseason. I'm taking charge because that's

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where I you know, I think
they need really badly. You know,

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they've got seven players who are playing
their butts off, and but you know,

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somebody's got to be in charge out
there, and and you know she's

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the one. I mean, they
got a freshman point guard as Mary Martinez

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is another one who's got you know, a veteran has got to step up

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and do somethings. Yeah, and
she's a stud too. Yesterday, very

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impressed with po she was, she
was fantastic. I'm thinking, where have

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I been, Dwarf? Have I
not to know this? You haven't been

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a Michael Center during bad women's basketball
games. You know, I'm too busy,

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man, You know that I'm too
busy. But uh, you know,

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tonight the night, Tonight's the night
that they've got to uh if they

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want any hope of getting into the
then cub A Tournament, Tonight's the night

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that they have to uh, you
know, make that make a statement.

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Well, let me tell you to
bless her heart because she's politiicy like crazy.

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Barnes. Seven teams got to get
in. I'm playing us, playing

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a tough conference. We're showing that
we're capable. So of course she's gonna

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politic and and and some of it's
true, some of it's legit, Yes

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it is. And and you know, for for for idea that the idea

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that that can go down that far. It's one of those things where,

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Okay, in other places, you
know, if somebody's you know, right

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in the middle of the pack,
you know, they they give them the

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benefit of the doubt if it's a
very tough conference. So that's what she's

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counting. On that that that that
the conference, uh, the conference is

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not reputation, but just the work
that it's done as a league is good

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enough to get to get them in
right, right, And she will see

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it tonight because they've they've given usc
the fits the last couple of nights or

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a couple of games. So we'll
see what happens for this one, okay,

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And then tonight obviously Arizona plays UCLA
in a big game, a big

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game for Arizona and maybe for UCLA
just to say face uh and maybe gain

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some of your momentum my runs to
the to the Pac twelve tournament, right,

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because there's only one way that UCLA
will get in. Well, yeah,

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there are two things here with with
as it relates to Arizona. Is

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you know just you know, at
this point in the season, you don't

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want to you know, lay an
egg, you know, put some doubt

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into your head about about where you
are. And so I think it's important

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for them to to you know,
I win both of these games, you

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know. So let me ask you
as we stand today on Thursday, February

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March up the number one seed today
and that's for a reason I don't think

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they are Tennessee, Tennessee one,
Tennessee one, say and in fashion and

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the one day one on the road
against the ranked team, right, So

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I think they're the number one,
the fourth number one. Arizona slips to

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number five. If they can hold
the number five, that'll be great.

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Even if they can fall the six, that's okay. But five is perfect.

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Number two in the West and uh, we'll see. Yeah. No,

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I think I think it's uh,
it's it's a chance for them to

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I mean, they don't have a
lot of chances to improve their body of

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work. And we knew this for
like the last two move known it for

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a while now. And the thing
was that other teams, and you know

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Tennessee and and and and North Carolina
specifically have done good enough work to gain

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ground on them. And they've headed
towards the end of the end of this

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season. Right, have they not
slipped against Washington State, they would have

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helped them. I'm not sure if
it had totally helped them. But like

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people say, well one is the
best team if they play well. Guess

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what, there's other teams in the
country, right, and they're playing well

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and they're playing well too, So
you have to give everybody the same equal

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wit exactly. Yeah, So we'll
talk more about them later today. We

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have Brian Jeffries. Yes, Brian's
in LA again ready to do the game

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tonight. So I don't know if
he'll be we'll be talking to him from

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his hotel room or if he's going
to already be at Polly, But you

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know, we we went down memory
lane yesterday with Ryan Hansen. Brian obviously

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has a lot of memories of going
to UCLA and his thoughts on going there,

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possibly for the last time, because
if you listen to Ben Bolt the

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La Times, right, he said
this rivalry is not going to continue.

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But you know, he basically said
UCLA does not want this to continue because

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not that he knows anything, he's
just that's that's that's his speculation based on

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conversation that he's that he's heard that, you know, there's been some issues

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with the fans at Michale and that
they feel like if we don't have to

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play them, then we don't we
don't need to play sure sure, so

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that you know, although that's unfortunate
that that we're in that situation. Well,

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although I wouldn't mind a neutral court
in Vegas. Yeah, maybe that's

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how Maybe that's what you do right, Maybe that's what you say. Okay,

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we're gonna play you every year in
Vegas, right, I think I

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think, you know, if that's
if that's a right, if that's a

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way to do it right, if
that's a way to do it, then

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that's a cool way to do it. Okay. Uh So we'll talk more

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about that, and then in the
second hour we're gonna talk. We're still

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gonna stay in memory lane with Joe
Nell's where you ve was entering the PAC

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ten. They got Yeah, they
got into the PAC ten his second year,

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so you know they already decided.
I went back and did a little

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research on this research research. I've
kept this old article that somebody wrote quite

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a long time ago about all the
ins and outs of what happened how Arizona

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and Arizona State ended up in the
in the league. Well you remember a

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great piece. Well it was a
long story. Remember we had Wilner on

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a year or two ago when some
guy did some wilder rehashed a lot of

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things from the guy who the legislature
he was, he was a provost or

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something. It's a great piece about
how how uh you know, ASU didn't

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want to go, and they were
kind of forced to go. And then

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Stanford and Washington at the last second
decided they didn't want Arizona and and and

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ASU win. Then us he said, basically said, if you don't vote

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for this, we're leaving with UCLA. And then the and and the Rose

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Bowl was going to lose its mind
in the little bit, and then at

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the last second they voted unanimously.
So that's what six that's almost fifty years

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ago. So the decision, the
invitation came in nineteen seventy six. The

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first season was the nineteen seventy eight
seventy nine school year. And then so

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it was the first time that u
c. L A came to McHale as

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a pack A Conference opponent. They
were ranked fourth in the country and Arizona

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beat them. I was gonna say, and it's good to talk to Joe

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uh and maybe we talked to some
players in football too. When all of

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a sudden, DoD that did what
was the theme, Okay, you're gonna

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go into the Pac ten uh and
we're gonna get our butt kicked. A

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lot of people thought that and and
and that. The thing is at the

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time uh and again reading this article, people were saying, you're gonna get

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drass kick, but it was in
football. It was just about football,

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right and bat Well, football matters, So you're gon get drass kicked by

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UCLA and basketball and USC and football
the rest of the league in the pack,

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what was the Pack eight wasn't really
a hell of a lot better than

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reputation wise, better than the Whack. The Whack had all these you know,

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teams, scoring, high scoring teams. B YU was in it.

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New Mexico had a great team right
around that time. That was when your

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boy norm right air Force, I'm
talking about football air force. Yeah,

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well, in basketball in New Mexico
was really good and they had the pit

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and football air Force was really good. Uh b y U was really good.

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New Mexico was good. And people
are saying that outside of U c

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l A and USC and football,
the Whack very matched up very well.

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And in fact, in Arizona's first
conference football game, they beat Oregon State.

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So you know, but so people
immediately were like, this isn't so

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bad. Now. I do remember
that in the second season because I went

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to this game Arizona played at USC
and they had Charles White and he rushed

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for two hundred and some yards in
Arizona got their asses kid, you know,

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so welcome to the back twelve right
right, So you know, but

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but it was back then basketball.
That was the end of That was the

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end of u c l a run, you know, the use and U

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c l a UVE had Fred Stone
his career there. Fred Stodeen coach through

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the eighty one season. No,
yeah, the eighty one season. Ben

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Lindsay came in for eighty two and
then Luke eighty three. So you know,

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but you know that that seventy nineteen
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Larry Demick, Joe Nel's, uh
Russell Brown still on that team. I

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don't think so. I don't think
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John Smith was the point guard.
I believe is any guy named John Smith

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who made the game winning free throw
to beat U c l a ye had

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the game was tied. He got
followed with a few seconds left. He

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made one of two and they win
by a point that you can't remember.

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Crap, you can't remember, crap, but you remember that. I remember

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that chick. Chick. Google all
that stuff, Adam, just to make

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sure he's just throwing names out there. There was there was His name was

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John Smith. Remember there was a
great poster. There was a great pot

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black and hoe. It was a
black and white poster that was made.

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It was a It was a photo
from the other end line, so facing

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the basket for John Smith to shoot. You know, he the long distance.

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Yeah, he had his back to
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and the picture was snapped like right
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The net is barely starting to move
and enough that you knew it was in.

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Yeah, that poster was being sold
in the books. I remember seeing

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that photo in doing research for the
books. I remember all that because I

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wrote about this. It was that
weekend on the spaghetti weekend, the weekend

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c l A or not weekend,
but back to back games, Yeah,

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back to back games. I think
it was a third. I think it

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was Thursday, Monday. Yeah,
Monday was the Monday was the USC game.

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I know that for one hundred for
a fact. Yeah, but I

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don't think the U c l A
game was Saturday. I want to say

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it was Friday, even been Friday. I think I believe it was a

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weekday because I think I was at
school then. Yeah, Okay, so

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we'll get with that. We'll get
to know all that with jone Els.

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He's been on the show with us
before. We had a big shot in

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that at the end of that game. Yeah, I think he I think

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he hit the USC game, no
cla. I believe he hit a shot

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from the corner. I'll ask him. I'm sure. Remember, I believe

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he hit the shot from the corner
that tied the game. Okay, but

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you know i'd have to know,
you know, go see a play by

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plate to know that for sure that
exists anywhere. Okay, cool? Cool,

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So again, if you guys want
to call or please do five two

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oh four, one, six,
seventy four forty, we're gonna get to

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we'll probably take no calls now because
we're running against it with Brian. We'll

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get Brian for about fifteen minutes and
then come back and then we'll have open

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lines right in the second half time
more basketball or whatever you just want to

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talk about, and then Adam will
take his first crack, gets some breaking

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news, and then have Joe Nell's
He looks nervous. Uh, he's always

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looking nervous. He just smile.
He doesn't have his microphone down in front

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of him in case he has to
say something. Look, he looks a

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little nervous. You can't mess up
if you say don't say anything, you

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know that, right, we should
learn from that. But we just have

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to shut the hell up the whole
time. It's good radio with us not

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talking. Okay, so that's cool. What time is it now? Three

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twelve? Do you want to treat
him down a minute? Yeah, let's

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get let's give another another minute.
Okay, let's back to the back to

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the women. Really, I mean, what time is that game? Thirty

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seven? Okay, so both they're
gonna compete against each other. Right,

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men are on, the men are
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But actually Richard Jefferson is filling in
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He continues to be six. Yeah, he was supposed to do the game.

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Okay, Well, Conference Championss is
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know, I had that I had
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though, Yeah I did. I
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Who do you so? Now I
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not better? Yeah? Better,
let's go. Let's go before we right,

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let's get the heck out of here. We're gonna come back. We're

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gonna have Brian Jeffries coming to us
from from l Well well, well,

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your free evaluation Today. Streaming live
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on the Ball with Steve Rivera and
Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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Hey, welcome back to Iye on
the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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I'm Steve Rivera. He's jagan zaus
having the phone. We have Brian

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Jeffries, the voice of the Wildcast. Brian, how you doing? Couldn't

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be better? It stopped raining here
in Los Angeles. What we got here

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yesterday? It was raining heavily and
they've had a very wet winter so far.

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So sun is out today, a
beautiful day and looking forward to a

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big game tonight. Well, we
hope that it doesn't rain on Arizona's PARADEUS.

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It needs two more games and the
to have a chance at the title.

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So what's the mood like? Have
you been around the team this morning?

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Choot around? Yeah? They you
know, they did not shoot at

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Polly Pavilion. They actually went there
last night. As soon as we landed,

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bust over to Paully and did some
shooting. As you well know,

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occasionally, just occasionally, they have
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the idea was make the long trip
last night, don't go back and forth

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twice today. So they're doing their
shoot around at a high school in Santa

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Monica and then they'll head over to
Polly a little early tonight. All right,

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so we want to talk about we
want to go back in time a

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little bit, but let's talk a
little bit more about the game. You

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know, the game tonight obviously,
you know, very meaningful. Tommy's kind

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of like I felt like he's he
kind of stepped into a next season kind

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of thing. You know, he
was talking about how Mikaale is behind them.

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Now we're not no more games than
Michale. We're on the road the

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rest of the way out. Is
there a sense of that around the team

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that they're kind of looking this as
a next season? Well, I think

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they want the mentality there that they
played really well on the road starting with

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that Oregon game up Ugene, and
so if they can keep that type of

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I think mental focus and obviously play
the way they have on the road and

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really at home over the last ten
games, then they've got every reason to

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think they can win tonight and went
on Saturday, and when next week in

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Las Vegas and beyond that. So
I think it's just kind of an approach

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to say, hey, look guys, we're in a good spot right now,

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We're in a good groove, so
let's keep it going. Yeah.

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In fact, I was going to
go there with you. Someone asked me

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maybe two three weeks ago, how
would you describe the team this season?

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I'm thinking, I don't know,
perplexing, inconsistent, And then over the

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last two three weeks they've gone,
what eight of nine, nine of ten?

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Are playing much better? Are playing
more cohesive? Cohesive? Me together?

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Your thoughts on that, Well,
I look at I look at the

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whole season, Steve. I look
at it this way. They got up

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to a great start, beating Duke
at Cameron Indoor, beating Wisconsin, beating

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Michigan State, I mean, beating
their other non conference teams, and then,

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like a lot of teams, I
think they went into a little bit

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of a low that are maybe in
January, and maybe it took longer to

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get out of it than any of
us expected. And now they've gotten out

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of it, and they're back playing
really the way they did early in the

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season, and so I think they
Every team goes through something like this.

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Sometimes it's just a week, two
weeks. You never know, and I

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think, you know, the guys
have kept their heads up, and I

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think a lot of that has to
do with the coaching staff that have kept

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their heads up and they just keep
working hard at it, because Tommy's never

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you know, he's one of those
coaches, like a lot of them,

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he's never totally satisfied. There's always
something to work on. And I think

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kind of using that attitude going to
practice every day that we got to get

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better each day, then you're going
to find yourself. If you're not playing

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as well as you were during one
stretch, you're going to find a way

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out of it. So I think
they have now. It doesn't guarantee they're

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going to win tonight or you know, any games the rest of the season,

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but I just think that right now
their heads are screwed on the right

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direction and they're playing well, they're
distributing the ball, they're doing it everything

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they need to do to win games, and so it's just a matter now

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of going out and executing what the
game plan has in store, you know,

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talking about keeping your head screwed on
right. You know, I asked

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Tommy yesterday if if Kylin Boswell just
looks like he maybe has a little more

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bounce in his step. He's put
some couple of good games together, and

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you know, all the talk has
been, you know, there's so much

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better when he's playing really well,
and they have been. Do you notice

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anything like that with with him?
You know, I watched him during pregame

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against Oregon, and he just looked
he was smiling more, he looked a

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little happier. He's making some shots, he was joking around. He just

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seemed a little different, like maybe
some pressure was coming off of him.

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Well, you know, maybe I
think depending on how much social media he

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reads. You know, I think
unfortunately these days that you know, players

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if they if they read too much, the cynics are out there and it

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goes for just about anybody. And
if you if you read too much of

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that and take it to heart,
I mean, it can probably bother you

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a bit. I think Kylon just
went through a stretch this season, like

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all eighteen year olds, where things
weren't falling together the way that he had

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hoped and he's fought his way out
of it. I'll tell you, I

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you know, all these guys work
hard, but he might be the hardest

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working guy I've seen on this team. I mean, he is, you

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know, first one in the gym
in the morning, and he's got a

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manager out there, and he's done
that all season long, and so I'm

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happy for him. And I think
the other part of it is that we're

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just getting over spring break now,
and I think the guys can see the

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end of the season. And I'm
not saying the end is in ending soon.

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I'm just saying they can see what's
ahead now and what's on the table

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for them, and I think they
all understand that if they're playing at their

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best, they've got a chance to
do some pretty special things over the next

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few weeks. So I kind of
look at Kylon and think of him in

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that realm that he can see what
this team can accomplish if he plays his

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best, and he is playing his
best right now. So obviously, you

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know, I was with you guys
for a long time. We traveled together

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a number of times, and you
can kind of sense for this game,

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specifically, how poly would be either
very electric or not. I'm assuming that

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it could be tonight. What's the
How big is the game? Should that's

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the easy thing, Desk. How
big is a game for both sides?

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Well, I mean it's obviously big
for Arizona because they need to win if

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they want to win a regular season
championship. I mean, you can't count

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on Washington State losing at home tonight
to Washington and so I think the Wildcats

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know that they've got to win both
games on this trip, and that's the

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plan. They want to sew up
that number one seed and get that trophy

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and head to Las Vegas and look
to defend the tournament championship. As far

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as UCLA goes, I mean,
they're in a tough spot. I mean,

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they don't have many seasons like this, and so they've got to win

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the Pac called Tournament to make it
into March Madness, and that's going to

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be difficult for them. Right now, they're fighting just to try and get

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into the top four, and that's
going to be difficult for them. So,

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Steve, that's a great question.
Until we actually get to the arena

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and people are in their seats tonight, I don't know what it's going to

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be like I mean, I'm assuming, at least from what I saw,

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it's almost sold out, and if
not, it's going to be very close.

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And so I think the atmosphere is
going to be like a lot of

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Arizona Ucla games in the past.
The difference is that you know, the

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Bruins aren't sitting where they have been
the last few years, and that's fighting

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for a conference championship, and you
know, how do their players react.

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I think that's probably the biggest question. They've dropped four straight games. They're

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not going to be able to win
the championship, and you know, they

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may not be able to accomplish a
lot of goals this year. Back it's

407
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.440
Arizona Ucla, and I don't care
if you're a freshman or a senior that

408
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.039
you know what this rivalry is all
about, and so you would expect the

409
00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.319
best out of both teams to no
question. In fact, that's where I

410
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.000
wanted to go with it next.
And we'll kind of reminisce now, no

411
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.319
guy has seen the u of a
basketball program more than you over thirty seven

412
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.279
years or whatever. It's been no
one, nobody, So you know that

413
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.400
the ramifications of the rivalry. We've
seen it. It's crazy even on some

414
00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:02.720
of these games. So let's go
there. What games do you remember specifically

415
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.319
to have that electricity it was?
It was you know, Eric Lute,

416
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:14.599
maybe Sean Sean Alfred, you know
the craziness there. You know, there's

417
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:18.680
always been I think every Arizona UCLA
game has been electric. I don't remember

418
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.799
any of them, no matter what
the team's records. When you didn't look

419
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.200
forward to it, and the fans
didn't look forward to it, and the

420
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.559
players didn't look forward to it,
and there was just something extra in the

421
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:32.519
air. And you know that is
all thanks to lout Olsen when he built

422
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.039
the rivalry into what it is.
And you know, there are specific games

423
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.480
over the years. Certainly we could
look back and you know, Seawan Elliot

424
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:45.359
breaking bluell Cinders record, Derek Martin
ending Arizona's winning streak at home. But

425
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.000
you know, actually I think more
of the players than I do the games.

426
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.839
And when I think of Arizona UCLA, I think of Seawan Elliott and

427
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:53.720
Don McClain. Those are the first
two names that come to mind to me

428
00:27:53.839 --> 00:28:00.359
because they were just, you know, such impactful players in particular back when

429
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.519
this rivalry really got heated up.
And so, like I said, there's

430
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.279
been games along the lay. I
mean last year's championship game, great example.

431
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.200
It's just you could find that you're
in and year out. But I

432
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.599
think it's the players that really made
the rivalry well and and it really has.

433
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:18.200
And you know there's been you know, when we you mentioned UCLA USC,

434
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.400
I mean US UCLA, Arizona,
you know, you mentioned it with

435
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.599
North Carolina Duke, you know,
and in all those rivalries, and you

436
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.400
know, it's been something that I
think fans and too soon. I know

437
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.119
they appreciate the rivalry, but you
know it's been around for so long.

438
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.720
It's kind of like one of those
things where yeah, we yeah, we

439
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.880
had for a long time. It's
been great. But I don't know if

440
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.960
they understand what they're going to be
missing when it's gone. Oh I agree,

441
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.119
it's going to be I think it's
going to be a tremendous adjustment because

442
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.720
there are no instant rivalries in the
Big twelve. I mean everyone's going to

443
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.440
talk about Arizona Kansas and yeah because
of the programs, the strength of the

444
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:02.960
two programs, you can say that
beyond that, and they really aren't rivals

445
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.279
because they just don't play your in
and year out, and so it is

446
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:11.920
the best rivalry in the Pac twelve. It has been for what over thirty

447
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.640
years. It's going away hopefully somewhere
down the road here that the two schools

448
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:21.160
can get together and maybe play every
other year or every third year or whatever.

449
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.640
You know, they've got to work
that out because both teams, you

450
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.359
know, are going to have some
increased travel. So I just don't know

451
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.440
how they're going to fix that or
how the two schools can agree upon a

452
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.359
home and home situation. But maybe
that'll happen, but it won't be the

453
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.599
same because it won't be your in
and you're out. It won't be games

454
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.759
that have any impact on conference championships. So yeah, I'm really going to

455
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.640
I'm going to miss it. I'm
going to miss it more than any other

456
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.640
rivalry in the Pac twelve. And
I know there'll be new ones in the

457
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:48.960
Big twelve, but it takes time. You guys, know that. You

458
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.920
just don't all of a sudden say
oh, this is a rivalry. It

459
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.680
has to go a few years.
You have to both teams have to win

460
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.759
once in a while in order to
become a rivalry, and that's why this

461
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:06.000
one has been so good, even
for you who who's gone pretty much done,

462
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.880
gone everywhere, done anything, a
kid from Washington growing up and now

463
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.480
in Arizona for a long time.
Do you still get goosebumps? I know

464
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.680
that's kind of Wexton poetic too much
when you get into Paulie too many.

465
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.480
Poli is just another gym because it's
so big and it's I know it's Paulie,

466
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.400
but you know what I'm saying,
Does it still stir the juices or

467
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.720
No? To be honest, no, it really doesn't. And you're right.

468
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.519
I mean, it's the building.
There's no sthetic appeal to the building.

469
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:40.279
It's the banners hanging from the wrap
rt. What makes Paulie specially has

470
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.440
nothing to do with the actual structure
itself. And so I think I got

471
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:47.599
over that a long time ago.
And there's other you know, in our

472
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.279
business, there's other things that you
have to deal with, and so you're

473
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.480
really not concerned about the building you're
in. You just want to make sure

474
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:56.200
everybody everything's working technically. Man,
it's a good place. It's a good

475
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.160
place to work out of. So
if you know elfishly, you like that

476
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.240
and you just hope that it's a
great game. That's what you're always hoping

477
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.640
for. But the think back to
the first time that you went, you

478
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.640
know, to do this job.
Well, you know what were your thoughts

479
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:15.559
on that? I mean, just
again, were you just worried about the

480
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.440
technical aspect of it or did you
walk in and go, holy crap,

481
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.279
this is poly Pavilion. Oh?
Absolutely, you walk in and I remember,

482
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.319
of course, you know John Wooden
was alive then and he would be

483
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.039
at the games, and yeah,
he would be in that same seat every

484
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.920
time we went, and people would
line up to get his autograph and that

485
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.960
was something very special to see that. And again to see the banners hanging

486
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.640
before you know, back then,
remember before they remodeled poly Pavilion, it

487
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.559
was kind of an odd shape because
the scoreboard didn't hang over center court.

488
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.480
And I my understanding is when when
it was built, it wouldn't wanted a

489
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.960
practice court put in, so they
had him back to back and that's why

490
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:59.079
the building looked a little odd.
Like I said, So it still came

491
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.119
down to the banners. That was
that was it. And you know,

492
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:05.759
the great players that have played there, and just like all the great players

493
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:07.839
that have played in McHale Center.
I think anytime you go into a building,

494
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.960
that's what I think about about the
teams in the past and the guys

495
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:14.319
that have graced those floors. Yeah, and one of the guys that you

496
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.319
know, you you were good friends
with with Lute respected the heck out of

497
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.359
Ucla. But boy did he love
beating them. Yeah. I mean there

498
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:27.720
were there were rivalries, and there
were rivalries, and I think that's one

499
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.200
that you could tell. You could
see it in loot on game days.

500
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.160
I mean, I got to know
him well enough that I'm not going to

501
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.839
say I could read him, but
I certainly when Arizona and Ucla on game

502
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.720
days, you could kind of see
in his eyes there was something extra special

503
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.759
there because he knew the meaningful nature
of the game, and usually something's on

504
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.119
the line. Of course, whenever
the two teams played, And yes,

505
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.880
he loved nothing more than coming to
LA and beating Ucla. That was one

506
00:32:54.880 --> 00:33:00.119
of his favorite things. I remember
when Arizona clinched the championship, here and

507
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:05.680
a bunch of the staff went out
to dinner down in uh I can't remember

508
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.640
where we were, Marina del Rey
or somewhere, and he was on top

509
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.599
of the world at that time,
because you know, clinching a championship here

510
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.519
in LA was something that I think
always stayed with him. Yeah, no,

511
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.839
it did. And I mean we
all remember well that I think this

512
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.480
is before you got here, but
you know the story when they won their

513
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:30.640
first pack twelve Pac ten championship was
at UCLA, and just how much that

514
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.160
meant to do it there and I
mean it was like somebody wrote the book

515
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.559
and said this is the way.
Well if you remember too that Bobby had

516
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.720
the game program right, took it
to uh, took it to Wood and

517
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.640
got his autograph and kept it and
said, you know, changing to the

518
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:51.079
guard. Well, it certainly was. And you know, I look back

519
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.240
here and I don't have the numbers
in front of me, but I think

520
00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:58.640
over about the last eighty or ninety
games between these two teams, it's almost

521
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.519
dead even terms of when you know
who's won each season, I mean the

522
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.000
one lost record, and that's again
that's what a great rivalry is alt about.

523
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.360
Well, you get a little misty
eyed tonight, either right before or

524
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.360
after the game or just kind of
just so you know, let's say,

525
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.119
yet back, I'm getting missy ad
right now, Brian, I mean you

526
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.840
know, I mean, how will
you take this? It's your last one

527
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:22.920
there? You know, as you
know in the PAC twelve, I will

528
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.039
not be misty eyed, because this
entire season we've been saying goodbye to places

529
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.239
that we'll probably never see again.
And certainly walking out of the building tonight,

530
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.840
yeah, I'll turn around and take
a one last look at it and

531
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.320
say, I don't know if we're
going to be back here again, and

532
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.440
we'll miss it, we'll miss the
rivalry. But no, not missy eyed.

533
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.920
We just hope, like I said, I if the broadcast goes well

534
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:49.159
and if the Wildcats win, then
you leave with a smile and head back

535
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.320
to the hotel and you know,
get some chocolate milk. So let me

536
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:53.440
ask you. We have no more
time, but let me ask you an

537
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.440
opening. It's the same answer as
mine. Would be your favorite all time

538
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:05.360
arena in the Pact ten PAC twelve
in your time, favorite arena to go

539
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:09.719
to watch a game and favorite not
Michael, not Mikail. Favorite to watch

540
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.719
a game or to do you mean
work? You mean work? I never

541
00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:19.920
get to actually watch to do a
game, I don't have one. Sorry,

542
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.360
I can't you they're all They're all
the same. To me, look

543
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.480
at your politicians. You're a politician. Matt Cork didn't do it for you.

544
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:28.840
Matt Cork to me, was like
he was almost gonna fall down on

545
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:34.119
you at any moment. Oh.
I mean, I love the historic nature

546
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:36.920
of it. And you remember you
walk around there and it's you know,

547
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.599
you can hear the floors squeak and
everything, and oh I love that.

548
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:45.440
But it was a terrible place to
broadcast out of. And so you know,

549
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.079
I have to I have to put
that up against it and say,

550
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.119
I'm glad. I wish we could
go back there. I love the games

551
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.960
in there, but my goodness,
it was a very difficult place to work

552
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.239
out of. So I can't put
it at the top of the left.

553
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.440
Okay, so what you're looking at
it, no favorite, you diplomatic man.

554
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:07.159
You Okay, we'll have fun tonight. Thank you, Thank you,

555
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:09.880
ran appreciate always. Yeah, good
stuff, good stuff, trying to be

556
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.119
nice to anybody. I know what
I knew he wasn't gonna say Matt Court

557
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.840
because of that, because of what
a pain that had to be. That's

558
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:21.599
that place. And I'm sure I'm
sure Oregon State was the same way that

559
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.079
those places tech technical technologically had to
be. Yeah, no question. Do

560
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.480
you have a favorite pair of shoes
that you've had forever? I mean,

561
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.679
you have a baseball glove that's probably
old and yeah, basil glove, and

562
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.199
yeah, I tend to keep shoes
for a long time, but they eventually

563
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:38.880
Yeah, white places, what are
you doing with that? That's it?

564
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.760
Okay, I will say that I
have I still have my boots from forever

565
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.039
that that I got, uh in
El Paso when I went and covered the

566
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.559
sun Bowl boots. I have those
Palm Factor I have those, and and

567
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.440
that's what that's what Matt Court it
was in this. Yeah, I don't

568
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.800
wear them. I never wear them. I haven't worn them in but yeah

569
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.679
I have them. Yeah. You
know, I've thrown out a lot of

570
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.719
shoes, but not those. Okay, that's Matt Court right there there.

571
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:07.519
There you go. Okay, all
right, let's take our break. We're

572
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.159
gonna come back. We'll take your
cost five two zero four one, six

573
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seventy four forty. Today's a good
day to call in with any of your

574
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.960
memories. Yeah, the UCLA rivalry
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575
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the iHeartRadio while just Surgery I on
the Ball. Hey, welcome back to

614
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in the Ball. This is Steve, This is your Jay right and we

615
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:21.920
got a phone call right away.
Hi. You're on the Art on the

616
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:27.440
Ball man. You sound horrible,
You know, you sound bad? Your

617
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.159
background back? Yeah, we got
a lot of background noise from you there.

618
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.079
You guys, You guys sound as
bad as I do. That would

619
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.239
never happen where you've been. We've
had a search party out for you.

620
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:45.079
Every Sandler Man, I'm working at
intown that intel holdly Nut. You're like

621
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.920
the Jeffersons. You're moving on up, Yes, sir, yes, sir.

622
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.559
So man, it didn't really heal
hit me until you know, I

623
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.679
listen to your show like this is
actually going to be the last, and

624
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.280
it says, you know, I've
been so about the farewell to the Pact

625
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.480
twelve or the pac ten and like
you just get reminded of dudes that you

626
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:15.400
hated. I like people like Kopono
and that bars and and last year with

627
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:22.559
himI Hockings and had to reach all
these guys that we loved to hate,

628
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:28.679
but they were formidable. They they
were our joker to our batman or back

629
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.320
badman to our joker, whatever kind
of year it was, and how you

630
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:38.800
guys said it, we took the
baton running before there was Gonzaga and whatever

631
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:45.239
the littlest because I still rolled my
eyes at Gonzaga until they win a here.

632
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:52.239
But this was the West Coast and
the West Basketball. Yeah no,

633
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:58.119
you're right, you didn't. So
you didn't like your brother himI Hawkish with

634
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:04.920
the Dug contest. Then I rolled
my eyes at Mexicans play basketball, kicking

635
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.519
in, kicking it to the colt
by that game, by that game,

636
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:14.440
he don't don't rag on us,
man, we're trying to survive here.

637
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.519
How are you doing on? Apparently
you lost your voice screaming at something?

638
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.719
Oh something great? A pushing here
the Cassie is in just this time of

639
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.519
year, it says, no,
I'm still my voice is gone from watching

640
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:34.000
the Cowboys put themselves against the Three
Bay Packers. See that's why I really

641
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:39.960
big. I've been at the pressure
that makes that makes perfect sense? Okay,

642
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.320
don't it's such saying fair. Wow, it is happiness. Its tradition

643
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:51.280
is everything. And just like the
little trips that we've talked about in the

644
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.599
football season, because everything was close, like what are we gonna do now?

645
00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:00.480
Nobody wants to go to love it? Nobody wants to lou who about

646
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:08.039
to go to bop it? Nobody
even exactly, So like like, I

647
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:13.639
know, I know, Jay's a
big tradition guy. We're gonna start traditions,

648
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:15.840
and this is a big tradition.
We're gonna lose what It's not like

649
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:20.480
we're going to PAULI. Maybe you
guys, because you guys are the hotch

650
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.719
hot reporters. But like it's it
sucks. It sucks hating these guys every

651
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.360
year and losing that. Hey,
it's gonna stuck, and I don't care.

652
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:35.360
You know, even when Michigan in
order to aim play, it doesn't

653
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.440
have its luster, or when Nebraska
goes back to the Big twelve it plays,

654
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:44.760
it doesn't have its luster anymore.
And if we play Utel again,

655
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:49.480
hopefully we meet him in the tournament
in the future, not this tournament because

656
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.760
they suck, but it'll never have
the same luster. You know what I

657
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:55.960
mean, it's not stuck to talk
on no more. Let me ask you

658
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.360
real quick before we lose you for
the next five months again. How far

659
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.599
do you think what would be what
would make you unhappy if Arizona didn't reach

660
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.760
that point in the tournament? You
know what, dude, these let down

661
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:15.880
these last years in the physicality that
we lost to last year and considering the

662
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:22.559
disappointment, I don't have to loss
of anything right now. If they make

663
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:27.239
a lead eight, I'll be good. Final part is what it is.

664
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:35.760
But I just up hold now you
know the two ferry and Santa Claus was

665
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:43.000
revealed to me. Thank you man. We miss you my own because you

666
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:51.599
already know calculator baby. You know, at least at least when he comes

667
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:58.719
in, he comes in hard and
very funny. Yeah, very funny.

668
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.400
Yeah. I we got about that, Mike, So I don't forget about

669
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.199
it because he shows up on my
Facebook. Oh it doesn't my Facebook every

670
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.639
now and again. Yeah, okay, And I know he's out there,

671
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.119
so and you know, and I
would worry if he wasn't around, you

672
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.760
know, I would worry a little
bit. Yeah, okay, good call,

673
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.480
take care good. But he's right. I think that there's a very

674
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:22.199
tale of the Easter Buddy and Claus
and all that. I know that fans

675
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:27.840
love him or hate them or whatever
they do. So we'll see what happens

676
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.440
this weekend. It's always like this
weekend. They got to win two,

677
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.239
right, and you'll hear people on
Facebook ragging him. Next week in the

678
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.440
Pac twelve, we'll see what they
say. And then the tournament, it's

679
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:43.679
all bets are off. Yeah.
Look, basically, Steve, they don't

680
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.840
have to win all the rest of
the games. I think I mentioned that

681
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.760
they could lose one this week,
and they could lose one next week,

682
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.280
but they've got they can't lose more
than that. Jay, if they lose

683
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.880
one this week and lose one next
week, doesn't that diminish your your hope

684
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.159
for that three weeks two weeks?
Of course it does. And that might

685
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:02.960
drop them to a three seat you
know, but but but the point being

686
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.440
they they can be a three seat
going into the tournament. There's still a

687
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.639
team that's good enough to win the
win the tournament. The question is,

688
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:13.719
you know, how much how do
you feel about yourself going in and those

689
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:16.599
but they're good concert your momentum,
right yeah, right, right, two

690
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.800
different words momentum, and I know
that not like the callers we're calling it.

691
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:24.599
Okay, tho, it's two different
words, all right, all right,

692
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.679
Okay, we got time for a
couple more calls. Yeh five two

693
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.199
o four one six, seventy four
forty. You'd love to hear from you

694
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.559
if you're a first time caller,
first time listener, and give us a

695
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.760
buzz ye, we'd like to hear
from you. So just uh, during

696
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:43.760
the break came across the first game
of the day. Uh in the Pac

697
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.920
Twove Women's Tournament, Colorado, who
beat the living you know what out of

698
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.920
Oregon yesterday but forty nine points got
beat today by Oregon State. Now always

699
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.000
state. It's the four seat called
out of the five seat, so it's

700
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.000
not technically an upset. But when
you beat somebody by fifty, you feel

701
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.320
pretty good about yourself and you feel
like you've got momentum. Yeah you got

702
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.199
you feel you got momentum, and
you realize I don't even know what that

703
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:12.920
means. And then you live and
now you're out seeing somebody by fifty did

704
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.679
not do you any good whatsoever.
I wish at least was listening because oh

705
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.719
they had a momentum, right and
then it was gone. Well they never

706
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.920
had momentum. They played well one
game. Yeah, so you know,

707
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:27.800
is that you know exactly what I
said? Okay, okay again, tonight's

708
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.079
the seven thirty starts there, the
women starts at seven. You said,

709
00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:34.679
so you're gonna have to have the
flipping back and forth if you are either

710
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.079
flipping or you're gonna have to make
a call, right, you know,

711
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.039
what are you gonna do? Yeah? Or do what you do? You

712
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:42.920
have your little dear little computer.
Yeah, you know, I'll sit there

713
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.559
like yeah, I mean that's what
I'll do. I'll have the you know,

714
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.320
I've watched first half of the women
In the first half hour of the

715
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.119
women's game, I'll, you know, put on the men's game and I'll

716
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.199
probably have the women's game on on
my iPad. You know, got in

717
00:47:53.239 --> 00:48:00.239
there and watching the game P and
P picture and picture. Then the way

718
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.400
that went, that went way.
You know, you can still well what

719
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.920
you have now. For instance,
if you got YouTube TV, oh yeah,

720
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.079
you can put four screens, four
screens whatever, like I had that

721
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.760
with direct I'm not drinking with Sunday
Ticket. Yeah, you know, you

722
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.559
had things where you could watch have
two or three screens on. But you

723
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.480
know, picture in the picture was
cool, but not great because the little

724
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.440
picture was too Yeah, I have
bad eyes. It did me no good.

725
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:29.280
I mean I did go out and
get a picture in a picture TV

726
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.239
when it first came out. That
tells you how a little bit I have

727
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:36.719
been with picture picture because what the
heck all these smart TV's, I'm not

728
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.360
smart enough to own one. I
mean, you can get a little picture

729
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:45.239
in your computer. Here, I'm
still watching my pettycoat Junction TV. You

730
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:46.840
didn't even know what I'm talking about
to you. He doesn't know what petty

731
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:54.880
coat junction is. How about he
oh no, Ggan's Island, I all

732
00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:04.440
right, Michael's Navy, Oh no
way, the Partridge family. I've heard

733
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.039
of the Partridge family. Yeah,
these kids, we're just getting old,

734
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.840
that's all it is. We're getting
old, you know, Steve. Yeah,

735
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.679
yeah, okay, okay, okay, but it's fun getting old though.

736
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:19.440
Okay. Sometimes I'm finally over my
soreness from doing a lifting over the

737
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:22.440
weekend. Took three days and then
wait till you do it again. I'm

738
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.280
gon do it again. You probably
do it again this weekend. So anyways,

739
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:29.199
but anyways, all right, well
I look forward to talking to Joe

740
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.320
now because we had him on before. But you know, we're talking about

741
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:36.079
your first of all, the guy
who you know walked into you know,

742
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.559
the U c l A. Well, what became rivalry? It wasn't a

743
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.920
rivalry. It was rivalry for Arizona
because Arizona wanted to beat U c l

744
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.079
A. U c l A was
still U c l A well at that

745
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:46.320
time. And I'm sure if we
had some U c l A people from

746
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:51.480
back in the day, what was
the impression of Arizona coming in and did

747
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.320
they consider a rivalry because Arizona fans
tend to walk into room and says,

748
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.599
we're here, We're here, and
we're we're the stuff. It didn't become

749
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.800
a rivalry, Steve, I think
until Arizona won the league in nineteen eighty

750
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.039
six because I covered, because I
covered the team the next year, and

751
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:12.039
it was clearly a rivalry they had, Walt had. That's why I brought

752
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.119
up Palt Hazzard the other day when
we were talking to uh To Ryan hands

753
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.199
too had Yeah, so right,
you know they Walt Hazzard was just a

754
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:25.559
grumpy guy who was just pissed off
that people thought Arizona was taking over the

755
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:30.719
league, which they did, right, And it was around that time that

756
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.280
it was happening under his watch.
Yeah, under his watch. It was.

757
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.880
It was the eighty seven the eighty
six eighty seven season, they beat

758
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:43.559
Arizona, they won the league,
didn't end up did not win the packed

759
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:46.039
off tournament that was the first tournament. Washington won it that year. But

760
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.599
or did they know they beat Washington
for eighty six eighty seven? Yeah,

761
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.440
oh yeah, I hadn't dotten here
yet they be I think they beat they

762
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:59.519
beat Washington for the for the tournament
championship. Regie Miller was on that team.

763
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.840
And you know, again I've told
this story about at their press conference,

764
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.719
at their at the championship game,
the bracket got announced on Sunday and

765
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.360
Reggie Reggie Miller was pissed off and
Arizona got in. And the next year

766
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.320
Arizona beats him twice, including an
overtime game at at Pauli where Shawn Elliott

767
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:20.239
you know, was falling out of
bounds and here the three pointer from the

768
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.440
corner to get the game into overtime. Then they beat him overtime, and

769
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.639
then Walt Hazer got fired at the
end of that year and then in comes

770
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.400
Jim Herrick. But that's that's where
the rivalry was formed. Yeah, no,

771
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.039
I can, I can. Yeah, And I'm sure let's to the

772
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:37.519
chagrin of u c l A.
Because here was just you know, Arizona

773
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:42.079
just just entry into the Pac twelve. Even today, you know U c

774
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:45.519
l A fan acknowledges that this this
has been the rivalry. You know,

775
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.679
U c l A USC is not
their basketball rival. No, I mean,

776
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.280
it's a rival just because but what
in terms of the the basketball rival

777
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.599
for UCLA is Arizona. Well,
the rivalry in the western part of the

778
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.280
United States? Is this one right? No? No, no, nothing

779
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.599
comes close. No, there isn't
anything close to it at all. Right,

780
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:07.960
Okay, we're gonna take our break. We're gonna come back. Adam

781
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:12.480
is gonna have his first breaking news. You ready for it. Don't be

782
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.000
nervous, only your job depends on
it, exactly. Don't worry. Well,

783
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.320
don't even call it a job,
because he's just here for free.

784
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.119
Did you know that? Okay,
all right, we're gonna take our break.

785
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.599
We'll be back and stick around for
breaking news