That's right, everyone, it is time for another episode of Jeff Jeff's Bizarre
Adventure. I am Tomo Hussan, joined as always by John aka Seppatula.
Are you doing glad to be here? Good? Lucy? How are you
doing? And how you're glad to be here? I'm doing well. I'm
good, and I'm also very glad to be here, sir, Yes,
sir, thank you Jeff Jeff of Jeff Jeff's Bizarre Adventure fame, how are
you and are you glad to be here? I'm equally as glad to be
here as my other co host. This is very exciting. These three episodes
were something else. I kind of feel like with me and Lucy there was
like a genuine happiness to be here. I kind of feel like Jeff's like
being a little sarcastic or something. I don't yeah, I'm not sure when
I say the highlight of my week is this? Please know that is the
God's honest, true sarcasm. I don't know how to and what's going on,
Jeff. This is such a bummer. I felt like me and Lucy
we brought such enthusiasm and such steam to this and now it's I don't know.
I can't believe you're misinterpreting my enthusiasm. They don't. It's just like
a new accent, is it? This is what happens. I think we
should I think we should probably run back the episode Tim, maybe just start
again and maybe just give them maybe start with Jeff this time and like,
because let's try this again. Yeah, okay, okay, ready, okay,
Yeah, hello and welcome to another episode of Jeff Test Bizarre Adventure.
I'm your host. Most name and joining me is Jeff Beckla. Hey.
I when I'm saying this, I'm just so happy. This is me happy.
I know it's a Monday. You guys, I love you all so
much. I really have not been able to put it into appropriate words for
real. True this like I want this is I want us to be friends
outside of the podcast. Okay, parting with you this episode, we are
going to be looking at JoJo's Bizarre Adventure episodes nineteen, twenty and twenty one.
That is a race towards the blink? Is that right? Yeah?
I think it's break time. Were you sitting very far away from your television?
I wasn't like I'm sleeping. I might have been I might I do
that thing where like I type without looking at my phone, and I've got
a new phone now which is bigger than my old phone, so like I
think my spacing is all off. We cannot be touched typing on a phone.
Okay, we have not gotten that far yet. Please tell me get
on my level. I've been touched happening on a phone for years. If
you get on your levey or whatever it is over episode twenty young Caesar as
my favorite member of the Outlaws, and episode twenty one, one hundred against
two or as I had previously written, hatred against two. That sounds like
a Metallica song or something. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I'm
gonna get that printed on a T shirt with like a super metal bit,
a bit of artwork and like a Joe Joe but he looks like a little
bit wrong. Yeah, so uh yeah, what did you guys think of
this batch of episodes? It's Jeff, These were these were pretty special.
I gotta say, just a whole just a lot more of me now finally
getting into a groove with this show where I where I'm not saying I can
back to anything coming because I can't and I don't know what I'm gonna get,
but I definitely am speaking the same language and I'm saying, Yep,
that's how that's gonna go down, Like Yep, he's gonna go and fucking
do that bullshit. I love it. I again, I have I have
officially drifted with this show in a way that I've yet to do. This
was this is possibly the most emotional episode. I think they've tried to do
the very specific wording on that try. Uh and yeah, like I'm I
very much enjoyed. I think, uh and we'll get to the third episode
in our little trilogy here, but I've got some very sort of specific like
story criticism of what they did in twenty one here. But other than that,
I think, uh again, real pleasure. I watched these back to
back to back with without blinking for sure, no blinkin a race towards the
sorry I meant to type of the brink, Lucy, what did you think
of these episodes? I mean, I I need to get out of the
headspace that I keep finding myself in where I'm convinced that everyone has plot armor,
because then I get very surprised and upset when certain characters do not have
a plot armor. No, I really, I really enjoyed these these three.
I find myself loving Lisa Lisa more and more and more. I'm glad
there was kind of some Lisa Lisa law sure, but no, I really
enjoyed this one. Also. I will talk about it at the time,
but they really foreshadowed what would happen in the opening credits, and I can't
believe we didn't. So you can frame by frame those credits and they give
away a lot, a lot. Yeah, okay, so it's only until
like the middle episode that we're going to talk about today happened. And then
I watched the obviously the opening credits of the of the third one. I
was like, Oh, it's just right in there. Huh yep, right
in there. A friend of mine mother's basement on YouTube, he made a
career out of breaking down the JoJo's ops and going through every little secret in
them. I would wait till we're finish the actual part to check out his
videos on them. But they're they're fascinating, like they're reading, They're great.
I am. Whenever I watched these in chunks of three, I'll watch
the op the first one and then skip it for the second two. So
I I feel like, now I maybe want to skip it if I'm hearing
that there's like stuff. I don't think they're gonna give anything away at this
point so much. But basically I had to tell me at the end here,
I don't know why we keep I don't know how it feels. Would
say, but yeah, Heesar's death. They that is like if it's a
weird though it isn't it. It's like, oh, I don't we can't
say it because it's going to spoil it for later in the episode on our
recap podcast, Yeah, yeah, And like now I need to go back
and watch it, but well we'll get there for sure. Yeah, I
want to go back for sure. Yeah, John, I mean you talked
a little bit about that. But like your impressions of rewatching these episodes,
do you think I really really enjoyed them. I think two things that I
really stood out to me, especially in the first episodes, I think we
can I think we can maybe all agree the episode twenty one a little bit
of an in between the episode, some good Lisa Lisa bits. But yeah,
but twenty and twenty one, I feel like two things that really stand
out the music in those episodes and the way it like kicks in and stuff.
Oh my god, it's so good, Like especially like Strohenheim's team and
some of the musical cues in the battle with Wammu, they're just great.
And I also think really good looking episodes as well, Like I feel like,
especially that fight with Wammu is there's some fantastic illustration in that fight nineteen
twenty twenty one, I have like they unlocked a new color palette for these
three. Where I was watching this, it seems like it seems like they
upgraded, right, Like I remember I was watching it. My wife was
on the couch and she was doing something else, and I was just sort
of like I would just like poke her and just point to the screen during
like things that looked really now, you're an anime fan, totally, you
said the young you you made her watch the first three. She saw the
first three and was sort of just like okay, but but her first thing
was like, well here she was dipping in and out with just I'd say,
like looking up a dozen times an episode, especially when I would give
like a poke or like you know, and like she look at that look
at She's like so wait, Like the girl is she's one of them.
She say things like that, we're talking about Lisa Lisa and shit like that.
But but the the sort of you know, beautifully like orchestrated rainbow palettes
and all that sort of stuff with like the checkering and all this really cool
shit on screen just eye candy like she was jazzed about. But yeah,
she only saw the first three. She doesn't really understand a lot of the
story. She knows that it's like a vampire sort of thing, which is
fine, I guess for like where her you know, a level of understanding
is at. But uh, but yeah, I'm not We're not gonna be
exactly talking about it. And next time, next time on Jeff Jeff's Bizarre
Adventure, we'll be joined by Actually might be funny, It would be quite
funny. It would be quite if we get a stop in at some point
and just be like, so, Stacy, what is Jojoe's Bizarre Adventure and
just see if she can like, you, guys, you should do that
on the side of and like, I send it over. Do you guys
ever play that game with people where you asked them about the subject they don't
know very much about and they're not allowed to say I don't know or I'm
not sure. They just have to explain it as like it's so much fun.
It's like it's brilliant and when they have half knowledge, that's that's the
best. This is sounds like a new podcast, is yeah, at least
one, Yeah, I don't know. For Yeah, I really enjoyed these
episodes. I also remembered that I don't like Joseph, and the reason I
don't like it is because of these three episodes. I don't like it.
I find him kind of annoying. He has maybe his worst moments yet yet
in this personality, And yeah, I was like, I wish we could
get to Joe quicker something about Joseph that he I always found him to be
like just on the bad end of himbo like he's like and like I forgot
why why that was until this episode where I don't know if we want to
spoil it, but he fucking sweeps a cat and then like, yeah,
let's let's let's I think I think we're going to have a lot to unpack
in that scene. Yeah, so you will get there, and like his
explanation is pissed pour so let's let's pick off I did laugh a lot.
No episode episode nineteen, The Cat Hater laughed a lot. Surprise Episode nineteen,
A race towards the Brink or blink if you type without looking at the
screen. U Jojo arrives to find cars fighting Cyborg Strawheim, and he signifies
his surprise by saying double shock. So I saw, and I was like,
I can't wait to hear say I can't wait to hear Tam say this
outloud on the podcast. How was it was that good? Crazy, fulfilled
and surpassed expectation, Tam lovely? Yeah, and I my first out out
loud Left for Sure trilogy. I would encourage you, Jeff, to integrate
the phrase double shock into your life. Make it feel better. Yeah,
double shock. So Stroheimer is back. He looks like Guile from Street Fighter
for some reason. Now he's got a mechanical arm and his face that is
equipped with some strange mechanical contraption German engineering. Yeah, he's big up like
volks Sprung, Voft text, Nickel whatever they saying that technique, yeah,
whatever on a gas whatever, same thing, yes, which is like all
the all the VW commercials for like ten years had that phrase because they're like,
technique is still the thin Volkswagen. Yeah yeah, that was during the
Peter st Mari commercials. Right, no, no, this was this was
when I was younger. It might be it's one of the German car companies.
That's basically saying that, Yeah, he had he had massive like VW
are cause are the best energy the entire audi. Okay, So Jojo starts
to pontificate about the moral morality and like the goodness of Strawheim, and he's
like he's not a bad dude. He's fucking annoying and he's pumped us in
fairness. He's alive fairness. That is how I feel about most people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair. But it's back with
his like oh right, yeah, he seems like an okay guy after all.
It's like it's like when you see your childhood friend, Like you you
go home to your hometown and you see your childhood friend and you're like,
oh, I haven't seen you in ages, and you're like really excited to
see him. And then you're like, oh, now I remember why you
did get radicalized. Huh yeah you yeah, I no, no, I
don't. I don't want to borrow your Ben Shapiro book. No, what's
that? Yes, yes, we all know Jordan Peterson's got some interesting No
we No, we don't have to talk about Jordan p Shut the fuck up.
He's an annoying Canadian. He should suck up. Did you see,
like, not not to say about Ben Shapiro, but did you see his
weird tweet about his sister his sister. Well, he's basically tweets I want
to fuck my sister with us saying at the one was staring at the photo
of his sister for hours. It's very pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, is
that man? That man? Let's not forget that, not forget that.
I'm at the point with I'm at the point with Ben Shapiro for it.
I just think he's silly. He's just a little cartoon character at this point,
Like I feel like I am I'm so glad that Hbama Guy has basically
the perfect shutdown for him every single time, and it is like it it
gets more and more pal for every single time it gets used. What is
it? H Bomber Guy found a video of Ben talking about like what was
it global warming or something? All right? With the with like he says,
like, who's gonna. Yeah, why don't they just sell their homes?
Yeah, yeah, bomber guy does the thing where he like sledge hammers
for a wall sticks is one small, one small problem. Ben fucking Acu
like Aquaman or some shit. A couple of years ago, so good.
A couple of years ago and h bamb was in Dublin and we ended up
going for breakfast and it was just after that came out The Power. I
always remember him like Harriber. He looked down at his waffles. We were
talking about that bit and he looked down at his waffles and he looks up
at me and he just goes, that's that. It's not really mine anymore?
Is It's so good? He was the loveliest guy, by the way.
Yeah, we've been very fortunate enough to do a couple of things with
him, with John as well, and it's been the nicest dude. It's
such a nice but I love that every time it's the and I know that
every time Shapiro sees it. He's tiny little fist and he tries to punch
but he can't punch, and picturing him with like little baby hands for some
reason. Anyway, that's adventure anyway, anyway. Sorry, So Strawheim,
so cars Is basically knows that Jojo defeated a CDC and he's super pissed about
this, and he's like, I'm gonna fight you now instead of letting you
do the destined fight against Wamu. And Stroheim's like, actually, I'm your
opponent. Big anime anime moment where every anime has a point where someone goes,
I am your real opponent, actually, bro, And then he does
this weird arm thing like hes his arm all the way around behind his head
Lucy's and then actually that looks uncomfortable. Yeah, it looks uncomfortable, like
it would keep going. But it's like, imagine if you put your arm
behind your back and then it just functioned like the whoa. That's insanely It's
it's like that meat. It's like that, like that wrestling game referee meme.
We're like the guy, yeah, exactly that. But it ends with
him with a straw ham like clamping his hand down on Cars his hand and
no just ripping off. He pinks he's just a small command and I think
that looks more painful than if he had ripped off the entire arm. I
don't think, oh, go ahead, No, you go ahead. I
was gonna say, all of our friends are having babies at the moment,
and I got to meet where is this going? No, I got to
meet our friends loosing Karen's baby at the weekend and barely a month old.
The pinch that that small child had, like he grabbed, I was like
cooing with him. I don't know what you do with the baby, but
you know, I was like tickling his eyes and he looked back and went
he pinched me, And I was like, how do you have such strength
you want? Not even a month old? But also, yeah, we
saw my guts on a couple of weeks ago. He pulled my hair and
I was like, what the what's happening here? Why am I getting beaten
up by a baby? So when Stroheim started doing his little pinches, I
was like, that's gonna fucking hurt. I'm gonna So that's where that story
was going. Yeah, the show goes very kindly points out he has a
fingerpower level of one nine hundred fifty for cubic centimeter. For the second time,
should we get very specific about the strength in someone's fingers? Yeah,
and they and they do that because they pointed out something similar for Santa Viento,
I believe, or Santana, and they point out here that it's two
times more powerful than his was. So Stroheim has got now pinching power twice
as powerful as Santana. I had the tables of turns show out to that
German engineering for real. So then he shows off that German engineering superior by
crushing a golf ball to be there. How much how much pressure to crush
a golf ball? I don't know, but I love the fact that the
golf ball is there. I think, like the interesting thing is that room
is clearly like some sort of like lad's room where you hang out, and
it's like there's like a billiard's table there. So like the fact that there's
a golf ball there and not a like a billiard's ball is very A billiard
ball crush would be more impressive, I think, yeah, But like it's
nope, someone's just been putting in there and forgot their golf ball Quara.
In the film Goldfinger, James Bond playfully tosses our Job a golf ball,
and odd Job fairly easily crushes it to bits. Could a human generate the
necessary force, No way, totally impossible. Have some great answers. It's
crushed by a peak force as high as four hundred pounds. Then it's yeah,
a fashionable and can't withstand the pressure, need to apply four thousand pounds
of force. So no, but German engineering, Yeah, yeah, that's
the thing. That's the thing. It was an Audi crushing and don't forget.
So then then he he reveals that he's got a fucking mini gun that
reinforced bullets. Torso, I'm sorry, can we talk about how homo erotic
this was? When whatever you yeah, what you're talking about, I didn't
see proudly on display, Jeff, did you see? Yes? I did.
In the words of the Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris,
do not come. I saw it. I could not look away like
I did. And she she was like had a head one time. She's
just like, what the fuck is that? The amazing best part of it
is like there's just a hailstorm of bullets. It's going degree. It looks
ridiculous. He has this rope of bullets that like I don't know where it
was hiding too, not to mention it was protruding, like you know,
barrel that just I don't know if it's like a telescoping I think it's like
one of those nineties Transformers toys where like the back a bit and then like
it comes a slight amount and then you like jam your fingers spring loaded guy
exactly like that. They actually cut like five minutes to set up of just
Strowingheim kind of and packing himself. He's like, Jojo, if you could,
if you could just this, that'd be great warm up there, Joseph,
I wish like JoJo's like triple shock, but they cut that. Cars
is still very much intended on getting the Redstone of Asia, and it turns
out the blades on his arms begin emitting light and he starts deflecting these bullets,
which is very surprising to throw him because he's like, this is a
lot of bullets, dud and then light. Yeah. Yeah, there's the
whole explanation. Yeah, this is a big explanation for this. We learn
up close and personal that the edge of the blades is actually very small sharp
teeth that are like vibrating and moving along the blades, so it's like a
little chainsaw, and it's moving so fast that it actually like a reflects the
light and it looks stationary, which is wild ship. I can imagine when
when what's his name came up with that and was he probably thought he was
the smart person on earth. But like there is so much of that where
it seems like it's just like overexplllent over explaining nothing because in fairness, he
could just be like, oh, whoa, his arms really sharp, and
that would be right. But no, we and I love that. It's
not that, you know, I love that exactly, yeah, cause strikes
him down and says Santana was because Strahan was like, bro, I'm way
more powerful than Santana and a cause is like Santana was a chump. He
was a pathetic god dog, immature and nothing compared to the rest of the
pillar lads. And Jojo is meanwhile looking on is like, damn, Myhammon
is not gonna be able to do anything against any of that stuff. So
I'm just gonna set my ass back here. It's kind of funny because like
after this, cars is like carrying Strawheim to the edge of the cliff to
hit HUTCHI machima him and like just chuck him into into off the cliff.
And Jojo is strafing alongside them and just thinking to himself out loud and explaining
why he's not going to engage in the fight. But he's like moving parallel
to them like an absolute dingus. He's almost like strafing in a real funny
way, like he's almost just running backwards. It's like it's like in the
Souls game where you lock on and then you move with the enemy. It's
exactly like that. Yeah, very goofy, very goofy, very dumb,
and like he doesn't engage, and Cars grabs the redstone of Aja out of
Strawheim's pocket, and then JoJo's like, actually, I can't let him get
away with that. Should probably step in at this point. Yeah, He's
like, now's the time for me to step in. Strawheim not done yet,
gets up fall on an Audi mode again, and his eye changes into
a little gun. That fire is an ultra violet blast that why don't you
know? It just happens to hit the stone out of cars his hand and
send it sliding towards the edge of the cliff. Now I may have forgotten
a lot of my GCSC physics. Yeah is that how that works? Yes?
Okay, yes, all right, airtight. Wait did we cut him
in half yet? Is he? And I think he thinks half at this
point. Yeah, it was kind of like even the show kind of moves
on from it very quickly, yeah, because it's just it's like, yeah,
because he's just like yammering on it. Also he cares. Yeah,
he's a real bit exactly whatever. But like this, this restaurant of Agia
is like sliding dramatically towards the edge of the cliff for a solid like two
minutes. Boarding is traveling a really long time. It's like the runway from
the end of six. Yeah, it keeps on going. It's infinite until
it needs to get to the end. And at this point Lisa, Lisa
and Caesar appear and basically they erupt into the scene just to be like,
what the fuck what's going on? And then it cuts away from them,
which I really like. They peek through the hole that the fight has caused,
like oh my god, and then it just cuts away from what happened
here, and then the episode just literally becomes a leg race between Jojo and
cars to get to the stone. It's just straight up just a race.
They're just running and they're just having a conversation running full speed, and yeah,
Jojo is like, shit, I at some point I'm going to have
to start slowing down otherwise I'm going to go off this cliff. Whereas cause
he can survive the falls, so he can just keep running at full speed.
This is a losing game for me. And then a Cars just looks
at him and he's like, I know what you're planning here. You're gonna
let me grab the red Stone of Asia and then kick me take it.
And then when Jojo starts putting his plan in in action, causes like I
already predicted that ship. Nice try. But it turns out Jojo was actually
kicking the snow so that it would blind it cause and then he can grab
it. But I didn't see this coming. Cars got blades on his feet
made of nights. He's like that. He's like the birds in Elden Ring.
He's gone the night. The best is Jojo just being like, ah,
you thought I was gonna kick you. No, no, no.
I just love that so much, where he thinks he's fucking got one up
on Cars and he's just gonna rub his face right in it. I just
love his once again. It is the same scene as Friends, where Phoebe
is like, they want to mess with us. They don't know that we
know, they know we know. And that is the entire that is Jojo
to a team. Also, you just say that. In the middle of
that, Jeff went from sitting to standing, and I was really really confused
for a minute because your camera was moving, but I couldn't figure out why.
And then I remembered you had a standing death. But I was like,
yes, it's very important standing. He's a director for this. What
motivated the decision to go from one stance to the other, Jeff? Because
my back was starting to her. I thought, it's because it was about
to really heat up in this episode. I thought, because you're getting so
hyped, you gotta yeah, yeah, I do do my best podcasting standing.
That is also a truth, little known truth. The blade fuses with
JoJo's body, he basically skewers him and they fall one hundred and seventy five
meters to the bottom is what they have to fall. Jojo uses his clinging
home on to grab a the lag tight. Do you hold on tight or
do you hold on with all your might? Yeah? The way I've always
tried to remember it is you hold on to st Stalactites hold on to like
the ceiling, and saleg mtes are mighty because they have to like push up
up. Yeah that's how I thought, but I always okay, they could
be. I'm pretty sure those were just icicles friends. Yeah, but Jeff,
we're just trying to learn some stuff here, just trying to remember some
handy teaching. To worry about it. We're so young, We've still got
a lots of stuff to learn. You with your back exactly the room.
Yeah, you became a stalagmite because you want Okay, wow, Okay,
that's how we'll remember it. As the lag kite is when substance hangs from
the ceiling, as the lag might is when Jeff Baklas stands up because his
back. Yeah we know, and now you know, yeah, and now
you know. Uh Joe. Joe says his best skill is having the advantage
of his opponent's oversights, but Cause is very persistent. They fall a long
way and then Cars basically kicks Jojo against a wall, waits for him to
bounce off the wall and come back, and then so he can kick him
with the blade. But Jojo puts the stone in front. This is a
dragon ball z fire at this point where they're suspended in air for a really
long time, but Jojo puts a stone in front of him to block him
because he knows that cars won't destroy the stone, which he doesn't. Then
Jojo grabs an icicle, as Backlo would call it, and starts connecting them
with his hum on an icicle rope. And it was us. You're you're
saying that ice stalagmites and ice salad tights can just be termed as icicle.
Yeah, apparently works, now you know. Now you see, we all
we all learn something. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't
agree with it. I don't agree with You can't really just you can't just
make up words, Yeah, you can't make up words like that. Meanwhile,
Caesar is up top, throwing down more. We have to call them
icicles because they're neither well, just gonna get upset if we don't. And
he's already derailed the podcast enough multiple times. You know why, why,
Ben Shapiro? For no reason? Why why not just invent words? Why
not just call things the things they're not? Because that's probably Look, they
even call it the icicle rope Do they not in the show? I just
I just went to the Jojo wiki and it's like a highlighted as a translation
error, So I don't remember. Weird weird worked out for you. Caesar
is up top and he's throwing down more succles. But I'm just gonna say
a little bit dangerous. Don't throw the shop things at people when they're falling.
Little javelins. Yeah, it's just like I'm gonna basically fire bullets at
you. But Jojo is using those to connect his part of up and create
a safety for him and then cause falls to his doom. Question mark probably
not. No, No. There's some chat about how Jojo and Caesar are
working together, and at one point goes Jojo goes very nice Caesar Chan.
I really enjoyed, but I hated the way that the Netflix sub Yeah,
which was Netflix subject as very nice Caesarreno. Yeah, that's that's not which
which I think should be the title of this episode. Very nice. He's
arena perfect, the one with the very nice HEAs Arena. I'm gonna I'm
gonna bold and underline that, yes, son permissions in the doctrin Can you
bold it? Trying to edit my doc down at the bottom of the control
be control. You look at that nailed it down at the bottom of the
drop, cause is doing this weird. He does this weird pinball move him.
I want you to know that this is the exact point in the episode
where I went and got a white claw. Okay, you know good because
cars ready for you. Time to white claw. It was here, can
we So there's there's a few things. There's a few things within pinballing.
At the first he sees, well, come on, checks out. Uh.
He sees like a bed of flowers that look like a grave almost,
and he's just sort of like whoa. And then he just pinballs all over
the bottom of the thing and he's fine. And then what does he do.
He looks at the camera and like proceeds to have a moniacal fit,
like his face rejects his body or something, and he just screams like a
lunatic. So the first think he's here's my read on this. Firstly,
I love the pinball thing because I think it I think in Dragon ball Z,
Mugin Boo does something very similar and I've always loved that, where like
they become bouncy people and bounce up. I think mu Mudgin Boo turns into
an actual ball like he he folds himselfwards, not the way you think one
would fold themselves, but the other way. It's very interesting. Margin Boo.
I don't know if you've ever seen mudgin Boo, Lucy and Jeff,
but you should google mudgin Boo. M A j I n Buu is the
most adorable lad in the world. Cute, he's cute and he is begins
the series evil as fuck. Jim don't know, he's no super Boo came
up as well, and that's very confusing to me. Okay, maybe not
Majin Boo Mudgin Boo rules th four. Oh, Lucy, you don't e
I do not need to google that. Okay, tell you there's some there's
some bad ship. Why wouldn't you make me do this. I wouldn't tell
you to do shit. I do whatever I hear, whatever you say,
I just do it. And what what was the name of the android from
the last Dragon Ball Fighters game? Android twenty one? No one? Yeah?
Okay, Like, if you're asking, is there is there a rule
thirty four of Mudge and Boo like Android twenty one should answer that pretty quick.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about the pink lady.
Why does her tongue do that? Yeah, definitely would though. Uh So
he bounces off the walls, and then here's what I think is happening.
Iraqi was like, this dude is very evil, so I need to wait
to kind of not humanize him, make him relatable a bit. So he
sees some flowers and he's like, life, I appreciate life, even though
I maybe evil, So I will not stomp on this flower. So he
lands right next to the flower and then looks down at the flower. And
then I think it was like, now we need to reasset that he's very
evil, But then he just doesn't evil. Laugh. So I think it
was like a moment where just like maybe there's some symbolism that I'm completely missing.
I mean, really, it's perfect writing. It's just our ability to
actually perceive it that's the problem, right, Yeah, exactly. The dimension.
Yeah, yeah, there's two things that we uh we skipped over here.
I didn't really know when to pick him out, but I just want
to highlight a couple of things. Uh. They describe the depth of the
pit as taller than the Empire state building, which I think is like them
just reminding like, remember we're started in New York. Don't forget that.
And then also Joejoe after he's faced with or like it's right when he's running
along watching them fight Cars and Traian fight, he goes he's like he's recapping
all the shit that's gone wrong, and he's just like, huh, talk
about an unlucky year. And I just stopped. That was like, it's
such a great self sort of like call out, oh fuck, my goodness
causes like Jojo, you've got guts, you can keep the stone for another
day. And then the next scene is five days until the poison ring in
Jojo releases it's it's toxin into him. So when I read that first I
thought it was like, I'll let you keep the stone for another day,
and then I thought it said five days later, and I thought that was
really funny because it's like Cars pretty bad at times, But no, it
doesn't say that. I just that just amused me for a moment. Yeah,
it's like Cars is just like he's really bad at time managements and he
just yeah, he's gonna wake up in the middle of them. Now,
I'd be like oh shit, oh god, that cursing his phone because it
didn't remind him. He stopped playing Eldon Ring at night. They're in San
Moritz, which, if you didn't know, the show tells you is a
winter sports wonderland and the soul called Sun Valley and relaxed sophistication, the destination
for the super rich. Even the cats stroll around with an elegance like a
plaything of some famous actress. This is this is the contents random. This
is the upsetting scene coming up. This is the upsetting scene where jo Jojo
is sitting at a table eating food like he's like a rich lad And I'm
sorry, first of all, fucking insane meal is he having that? He's
having drawns and smoke. Yeah, you have sms at the same little little
surface so much. Sure you can like a seafood. So there's a there's
a cat walking along. It's just doing its own things, stretching minus own
business like cat things, doing cat things. Jojo throws some shrimp tail at
the cat and the cat looks at it sadly, and it's like, this
is the tail You've just thrown the ars a shrimp at me. I don't
there's no meat on the ship. Everyone knows there's no meat on a shrimp
kale. While you throwing out a cat and cats like nah, I'm good
and it just like kind of turns away from it, which Jojo then says,
is the cause a cat fussy like an elegant dame strutting the streets without
a care in the world. Misogynistic, don't do that. Then he lures
the cat over with some salmon and then holds it out that the cat can
like get up and try and reach it, And so the cat stands up
to try and reach it, and then he fucking sweeps the cat's legs like
karate kid so and like so, just to give a visual to people.
Lucy looks appalled right now, and Jeff is just cracking up. I'm sad
reliving it like I'm looking You'll know, I keep looking off to the side.
I keep looking over at my cat, and I'm like, what if
someone did that, fil Peanut. The thing is that cat looks like Miko
a bit. So when this happened, I rolled my next Miko. Yeah,
I wrote my next line, which is just gonna say it, Jojo
Joseph is a fucking prick. And he sucks, he's dumb as fuck,
and he abuses animals. Joseph Joe Star is the worst joke. You know
what time. I feel like I sat silence for a lot of this Caesar
bashing, and I think had I known that this was your game, I
would have thought very seriously about doing this podcast. I get that we're in
it now and I am legally obligated, but let me tell you, the
cold, firm hand of the law is the only thing keeping me here now.
Listen International Podcast Law. Yeah, the p and Interpost Dance Podcast.
Obviously everyone knows that I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Joseph is a strong
number three best Jojo. Okay, well look I only know two Jojo.
Well, so you can't appreciate, like, obviously what Dio did to dogs,
right with like the murdering of them in the in the first I didn't
like that either, but he's all he's a villain. But you can't put
that on the same level, right of like slew footing a cat because to
be the good guy. Okay, I say this as someone who would hang
out with cats seven times out of ten over dogs. It's pretty fucking funny.
What's funny is how the cat is a cat. The cat is a
cat, and it like couldn't figure out how to land. All cats all
they know to do is land, straight up? What's wrong with this?
They don't have to land when you let them go, not fucking hammon Master
sweep kicking. This was expended. What I will say is the sweep kick
was too much, Okay, the fiercing crouch was too much. Okay,
But exactly are you honestly telling me you don't mess with your pets sometimes?
Yeah, but I don't kick them over Okay, we've already like we've already
established that is too much. Okay, that's not cool for are you honestly
telling me that just you don't just oh yeah, I walk around and like
just call my cat a little freak constantly. But that's because she is a
little freak. Well that's that's it also doesn't understand English. That's not fucking
with it. Exactly. I'd never do or say anything that would make my
cat like directly understand that I do not like her. I would never create
that. I would never create that kind of thought in my cat's mind,
because the cat needs to know i'd love her. But you see this,
This isn't Joseph's cat, Tom, Yeah, but the feral cats. Here's
the worse. He's just kicking someone else's cat. Here's the thing. So
I think, and this might change the way you feel about how I feel
about it. I think teasing the cat with the fish was worse. It's
all back. I think, I think this is fine. Problem is this
compounds already shitty behavior from Josh. I think he's he's he's very rude to
women. He's very rude to women. He's about to be he's a product
of his time. Okay, he's a product of his I do not defend
misogyny. I'm a fucking big support or a woman. This was the nineties,
things were different. I am big, I'm a big supporter of I'll
say multiple women. I'm a big okay anyway women coming and then but don't
forget, don't forget Okay. Right after he does it, though, Jojo
is like, oh shit, wait a minute, I guess that was kind
of mean. You know that you know who? All? Do you know
who also abuses animals when they are feeling anxious and and and stressed out?
Serial killers that's that's who just saying that, just saying it, Lisa,
Lisa and sees I. Meanwhile, I was just standing there watching this fucking
hate crime happen and doing nothing about it. They are examining a nearby hotel
where they think cars is hiding. It's like all boarded up. It looks
like a castle, and they're like, we reckon. He's in there,
and because it's daytime and he's waiting for one mood Jesus like I want to
attack now. Now is the time to strike. We've got the advantage.
It is daylight. Let's get in there. And Messina is like, I
agree. Jojo meanwhile disagrees and says the sun could make it. This is
I really found the logic in this fucking stupid This is why I'm saying,
Jojo. The things he says here are moronic to a degree that I was
like, what are you saying? I got it? I felt like I
got Lucy, could you explain it? Because I genuinely was like, hang
on, wait what I figured that? Like he was trying to say that
because cars had been around for thousands of years and the sunlight was his weak
spot, he would be more prepared to protect himself during the day because at
night he's at full power. I can do whatever he wants. So I
figured that what Jojo was trying to say is like, this place is probably
booby trapped. It'll be dark inside so that he can cars can attack from
the shadows. Maybe he's hidden himself. I will, I will, I
will say that he explained it horribly. That's the thing. Okay, it
makes perfect sense, But the words Jojo uses are like, what are you
talking about? He should say no sense, he should just like Noll,
He'll be expecting us. Yeah, he'll be prepared for this. Yeah,
that's it. Yeah, Like the flip side of that is worse. So
the alternative of doing that, risking him being prepared but weak, is him
being at full strength, which they know is a lot. The trade off,
Yeah, the trade off. Caesar's like this sucks, mom as fuck.
Yeah's you're you're a coward to Joe, Joe and Joseph, further proving
that he absolutely sucks. Quotes Sun sues are of war, which we know
that the Pillarman have read. Yeah, he's like, only only fight,
he says, He's only going to fight when victories are short if anyone who
quotes Sun Sues Are of War is a trash human. And I say that
as someone who wants are of War on his way to Italy or something like
when did he read the book? Oh, he just found out about it.
Can we dissect tam, Why did you buy The Art of War?
Can I answer this question because he was a man in his early twenties,
because I have also read it? Yes, okay, yeah, yeah,
men in early twenties usually there's decent chance that you're like I like fighting,
I like strategy. Let me see. I also bought it because I found
a cute pocket version of it. I was sick, it's really small,
pretty cool, but it's all war. No, it's not. But like
I bought it because it was like it was quoted. This is what I
know. It's for dickheads because it was quoted in everything. Like I remember,
I bought it because I was reading an article or like a long essay,
but like a multi part like analysis of like applying strategy to fighting gameplay.
And at one point it's like in Sun Suits Are of War, and
I was like, I guess I got to read this if I want to
learn how to fucking play Ken properly. I can envision this is like motivational
Instagram and Facebook quotes, but for men, you know, just like a
nice sunset with a sun zook on it. I'm going to start that,
but I'm going to do it like slightly wrong sun suo quotes and just makes
them a bit. Do you guys ever see those memes where it's like a
fake quote, but they'll do it like in really nice text and put it
over a photo of the person saying it, and they're really convincing. Yeah,
it's so good. My favorite one of them I ever saw was I
think it was Richard Dawkins, and it was like a really nice photo of
him and a really lovely scripture text and it said, the beautiful thing about
evolution is that one day you can start off with a frog and then the
next day it can become an earthworm or a butterfly. Yeah, there's a
I think there's a Twitter account devoted to that, and I need, I
need to I need to start. So JoJo's like Caesar, you've lost it,
and but Ssar retorts that Jojo doesn't understand what's at stake. Sesa disobeys
Lisa. Lisa and goes to the hotel anyway and says this is a matter
of bloodlines for him, that he's fighting for the Zeppels for himself. Yeah,
he is. You could have said cost with any bloodlines, but you
know you went for the long one. Yeah, that one had vampire in
the name. I appreciate it. It Lucy, thank you, I do
know. Spends Messina after him and tells him to stop Caesar by force if
need be, which, given that Messina lost a fight too, doesn't know
Messine isn't even bother to fight, did he? He was just like,
yeah, I do forget Messina is in this bit every time I watch it,
and this is my third I forgot his name for a while. I
was like it was there was a moment where everything in this recap script was
every time he was in there, he was referred to as that lad until
later on in the second episode where someone says Messina and I was like,
oh good, I'll go back in Philly. They continue to do him pretty
dirty, yeah, Lisa. Lisa tells Jojo that his word struck a chord
with Caesar, hit him where it really hurt because of something secret in his
past, and that is where the episode ends. Great, yeah, good
use of round about there back really well actually, oh yeah, definitely good
good cliffhanger, I think definitely. Episode twenty Young Caesar, we learn a
lot about Caesar, tam would you say good cliffhanger again, good cliffhanger in
an episode where we literally had someone hanging from a cliff. John Luke,
please please edit that funnier and it came out please ye, take one of
our laughs from earlier, not just a straight audience applause. I'm sure you
can find that. Oh I hope, I hope he doesn't edit it.
Like so there's just silence afterwards, and then the conversation keeps going. Oh
you Episode twenty Young Caesar, we don't about Caesar, who was born to
Mario, a furniture making maker who was a traditional family man. No,
a traditional Italian family Italian come on, yeah, yeah, of course Mario
vanished when Caesar was ten. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry I
cut you off there, But do you guys see Mario the way I see
Mario Mario? Yeah, yeah, the actual way you say it. You
say Mario super Mario yo? Yeah. Yeah, Wait a minute, this
is like a breakthrough? How do how do? How do other people say
it again? They say, Mario, Mario, Mario, that's such,
that's the American thing. Bullshit, it's married. It's an American thing,
super Mario. Well, because like only only a few people, like on
the East Coast say it the way I say it. Yeah, handful of
people, most people in Europe will say Mario, yeah, wow, I
just learned something today. And the development, I'm sorry, I've dozens of
us literally doesn't. So Mario vanished when Caesar was ten and his mother was
already gone by then, and then a family member, straight up evil uncle,
rolls up and steals the money left behind by Mario, and this threw
Caesar into just chaos and he began a life of the one shot where Caesar's
like pins someone down on top of them, whipping them with a chain that
was really traumatic. Yeah, and he's like fourteen there, yeah, and
he looks nothing like you, like Caesar we know, but then he has
got those blush yeah, a little triangles area. And then the next shot
I think where Caesar is like some bloodborne Assassin's Creed cost player for like one
scene and it's so he looks so fucking cool. Yeah, he like they
mentioned that he used to like he used to enjoy beating people with a wrench,
Yeah, finishing them off that. Yeah, he'd finished them with a
punch that was hamon imbued, but he just didn't know. It was so
like imagine being on the other side of that punch and being like, what
the fuck was that? Yeah, oh my god, was not normal punch.
Just magic me. Yeah, magic punch me. He was apparently so
fearsome that even the mafia feared him. So he's in Rome when he joined
this these days, and he followed a man that looked like his dad,
who led him to the Pillarman. While there, he was like, because
he's poor. He sees the diamonds kind of like embedded in the Piloman wall
and it's like, I'm gonna have that. The man tries to dive in
front of him to stop him, but Caesar has already touched it, and
instead it activates the wall and the tendrils appear and absorbed the the man.
Caesar had no idea that his grandfather Will had died tragically before because of the
mask, and Mario inherited the cause and discovered those ruins that man was Mario.
His dad will Zeppel and then you call your son like Mario. Yeah,
it's weird in it, Will Mario, that's fine, Caesar. Mario
tells Caesar to find a woman named Lisa Lisa and tell her of his death
because only she can stop the pilman. Mario didn't recognize his son Caesar because
Caesar had grown up. The wall absorbs him and Caesar realizes that his dad
actually left to protect the family. Earlier in the episode, he's like,
I bet you he's gone because he wants to shrag someone else. Yeah,
it's kind of bullshit that his dad can't recognize him because like he's got those
like blush triangles. Yeah, that's pretty. He should have. But also,
like Caesar is following him specifically because he suspects us his dad son wants
to wrench him the old the old magic punch. Yeah, but he should
have been like, it's your name Mario or Mario and yeah that would figured
that out. Yeah, yep. So that's why when Jojo pops off about
his family, Caesar is just very pressed about it, and then Jojo regrets
insulting Caesar's family for that moment. That's the last conversation they had. That's
it. That's it just kind of gets sucked into that cement wall there a
little bit. Yeah, kind of like gobbles. Yeah, real real upsetting
fashion. Yeah, well I regret. The only the only thing that ever
springs to mind when I hear the word gobble is the infamous Yeah, the
infamous scene with Jlo and Ben Affleck from Shit was a film called g Yeah,
gibli jiliigl jiggli. Why did you? Why are you talking about that?
There's a gobbler. There's a scene where they're trying to be sexy and
is it? Is it Jlo who does it? And she goes gobble gobble.
It's like, thanks for turkeys, the sexiest creature. Yeah, well
yeah, because they've got balls on the chin. So that's clearly where there's
certainly these are literally dickheads. There you go. This is called improv comedy.
Just yes. And Caesar approaches the hotel, which still I've written down
multiple times the castle because it just looks like a castle, okay, and
the doors fly open. There's a figure standing there, but it's like ghostly.
I really like this effect. It looks cool, cool, and and
it like just this figure immediately sprints towards them and then vanishes, which is
like coolest fuck. And then Caesar drops into the cat stance, which is
this, yeah they stand. Yeah, that voice over it just becomes like
the narrow character. But I originally thought it was like Zeppeli or something like
that. But they just this voice comes in in real weird moment. I
think when they don't have a speedwagon, they just bring in this disembodied voice.
Yeah, exactly, it's italicized and that it's that. Yeah. So
what we have here is a Caesar drops into a defensive stance cat cat stance,
which is incorporated into different martial arts. But that's not what this is
because Caesar no, just it differently exactly. Also, we've now had a
character who kicked the cat, and the cat did not recover from being kicked,
And now we have Caesar going into a cat's interesting and he does not.
He's not very successful. Layers, Layers, Layers, think about it.
It does show that Caesar is more closely aligned and appreciative of cats,
thus making him the better character. I'm wiping away all the things I said
about his bubble Hammon, and I'm now saying Caesar pop lad like you.
Still, I'm glad that you are brought him. I'm glad that you brought
that a time because now now it is the time I have been waiting for
for for weeks. It is time. It is time for my each of
my co host to to eat crow. Here. Bet you all thought that
the bubble hammon was silly. Now let's see who say it is. It
really works out, It really works out for it. So I will,
I will, I am. I am not arrogant enough to stick my feet
in the ground and stick to my start. I will say, I take
back the bubble stuff. Yep, the bubble is now good. The bubble
evolution of the bubble is good in this form. Yeah. Sorry, okay,
Jeff, you go next. I'm still gonna die on that hill.
I think I feel like classic dog you know I yep, the dog person
would do, would say something like that. Uh you know, Jenny,
just tell I think when when when people get things wrong, the strongest thing
they can do is apologize. It's just this internet culture, you know this,
This is just this cancel culture. It's true. It's true. Not
being able to admit you're wrong. I look, I will say this had
he used that same bubble bullshit that he did before. He because he was
all that was bubble bullshit. He changes his thing, he changes his weapon,
so it's a different it's a different account, a different attack. It's
the same attack, it's just flatter now. It's an evolution of the it's
the same thing. It's just flattered now. That's it. Could I ask
you away in on all this? I mean, I see everyone's points.
Lucy buddy, Okay, the bubbles this episode were objectively cool. It's like,
I have the power to spokes. If you're not, okay, don't
do this. The bubbles were objectively cool in this episode. However, I
do say that they still were a little bit lame earlier on, but now
we're in a place of acceptance and bubbles are cool. My my thing is
like, if I like an evolution of a power, I have to accept
the devolution of that power. Like my thing is like, like, did
you're saying, Gokul, level three not that good? Level four bit better?
Does my liking of level four super saying means I have to accept level
three? That's good? You know what I mean? But I feel like
that's just an entire or they're can of worms you opened up. I don't
even Yeah. The one I don't like is the one without the eyebrows.
I've lost track of it. Okay, the one you're accurate, I just
yeah, I don't know what time. I feel like I feel like we
may be more different than I ever. Oh no, you're really learning a
lot. Abouts just had this podcast falls apart. At least we did it
on air. It's very cool. I thought they seek okay, yea,
so like he the weight invisible figure is actually uh is it Walmo? Yeah?
Yeah, it's the idea is that it's has changed it to Sammy ac
DC cars, Wammo and their buddy Sammy. Hey guys, we're gonna fight
those showsters. What we're about to say about the attack? I think the
idea is that Wammu is cloaking himself in wind. Right, that's why the
sun isn't cooking. No, he's he's vapor vapor from vapor, yeah,
from his lungs, but he's the wind Wamu. Yeah. So Sammy aka
Wamo attacks invisible mode and like drags Messina into the hotel and then the doors
shot behind him, and so chap his arm off first yes, So he
reappears after that, which is a like dramatic undoing of the door slamming and
basically is where's that Loudmo goes like, where's that loudmouth? Jojo? He
wants to see the man who beat a c DC. So Whamo is clocking
himself with vapor from his lungs, which is reflect refracting light away from his
body, which is why he looks transparent. Again, this is something they
seeded with causes blades though they have the ability to refract light in a weird
way. I have a question, Lucy, Yeah, I did literally raise
my hand for that. Why would a vampire need to breathe? You know,
Lucy, don't regret letting you ask question. Yeah, that's don't don't
ask questions you can't hear the answer too. Yeah. Yeah, these are
not typical. This is not brand Stoker's vampires. Okay, this is keys
vampires, right, they like to breathe. Okay, he's got those little
like those little flesh chimneys that were chimneys. One of the worst things ever,
adding that to the list of phrases that are gross alongside gold God.
He's got so Ceesara, I don't know that anyone's ever used that combination of
words before. And I'm sad that I was here for the genesis. Another
first, Yeah, Wami Ceesar's trained and is like, all right, I'll
fight you, and then sees A basically thanks him Wamo for reminding him of
his street days where he was a little more vicious. He also brought out
a wrench and like, yeah, it's like Cratos finding the blades of chaos
in the Latest, like unwraps it and like a wrench comes out the music
swell, Yeah, friend, Athena's dead and he was like, I am
not your monster, so uh what's Then he says some bubbles can blow away
the wind, which is crategorically incorrect. It's like I have turned around on
the bubbles, but I will not abide a fact your inaccuracies like that,
like that is that is a revisionist history or what do what do we see?
You know? And yet you are right? Yeah like that, like
I want to agree with your tam, but the footage, I think I
think that what he meant to say was some bubbles can blow away your wind
when they are enhanced with hammon, because that's what it happens, so he
enhances his bubbles with Hammon and just starts wrecking Wamu. Oh yeah, he
fo him up, Yeah, to the point where while moves like I need
to get over it, and he tries to run away. Yeah, he's
like trying to book it, and but the Hammon bubbles kind of like stop
him. They like get they cut his legs so he can't run. And
then what he does is he like leaps in for a kick and then uh
this is Caeesar leaps in for a kick and Wamu does like a backflip and
kicks off Caesar to launch himself at a wall and go through it. That's
pretty turned to the hotel. It's pretty cool. But he is in charge
of slamming the doors of the hotel at this point, I think, because
he goes into but then the doors still slam. Yeah. But it's in
general, it's like a task attributed to bad vibes. Every every builder,
it's haunted. It has bad vibes, and the role of bad vibes is
to do like haunted shit, go on auto pilot. Yeah yeah, yeah
yeah. Caesar says perception is a razor shop, which is just like you
know, support what you create, promote yourself, be a bigger champion.
Good on you, man. And he can feel the changes in the air.
He's breathing steady, and he's he's like, I'm in the perfect state
for a big old home on attack. Meanwhile, Messina is in there in
the hotel, just helplessly lying on the weird concrete bed. I don't don't
he's dead. He's in a bed way, Yeah, I mean you know,
either way, he's no danger to This could be the last time we
see him. I don't remember in all likelihood. Yeah, fucking unbelievable.
I told a tenant a team joke there, and everyone just talked of me.
I said, any rate, he's not going to be any threat to
Wamu because he's armless. Flocks like that. That was like, that was
my one joke of the week, you know, Joan, Look, can
you reuse the applause or the long pause from earlier? Find another way?
Perhaps played at one point five X? Can I get Can I get?
No? Hang on? I need to be very careful about how I word
this. Can you play the audio file of a drum going doing a rim
shot? But can I get a rim shot? Yeah, that's what I
was good at say, and then I was like, no, I need
to fucking shot. Walmo appears and this time his flesh chimneys are not producing
any sort of windshield. No, no, no, Caesar does the cool
looking through thinger fingers pose, right, which is he's like, I see
better when ships in front of my face. I feel like like a player
when I'm doing this. Yeah, I mean like, I don't know about
you, Jeff. Have you ever tried to do that pose? No?
Has? It's weirdly empowering later on today when you are alone, just try
it. Try just do it to my kids seem we kind of reaction.
Just make sure you turn as well, and like, do it and see
what its reaction is. Yeah, Jojo and Lisa. Lisa approached the hotel.
They spot a severed arm and I'm like, that sucks. Inside there's
a bubble versus air battle raging and who will win Bubble? The long away
to showdown is here between bubble and air. Wamo is looking quite pressed by
now. There are bubble cutters all over the place, and wouldn't want to
be that guy. No, I don't want to be going up against bubble
cutters. This bubble just cut me. Oh no, it hurts. It's
literally fucking fairy liquid. And yeah, it's just Tam. We reached a
good place. Let's stay there. Yeah, the bubble. I respect the
bubble woman uses his death technique divine sands, but Caesar's like, nope,
don't do that. Look around. I fill this place with my bubbles.
And as you may know, or perhaps you did not know, these bubbles
also function as lenses. They refracts. Yeah, was like, I'm three
thousand years old, what's the camera? Was like, what? So he's
they reflect light refract sorry, like coming from the whole created by one Moo
when he punched his way back into the hotel and he makes the whole thing
about how it's a camera and a lens and it's like very belabored and pained
metaphor, and that one who doesn't Maybe some people thought it was really clever
and cool, Tim, you know, yeah I did. But one Moo
is like, like, what's going on? I was talking? I was.
I put myself in one Moo's shoes there for it. Okay, So
the sunlight refracts and piers as wamo and he's like, you're the film and
You're a Bit Overexposed? Pretty good. The drawing. I love the drawing
of Wamu here, like he genuinely looks like his whole reality is being fucking
destroyed by bubbles. Yeah, like for that moment. Yeah, like it's
real, like like gets an audio podcast, but he's just twisting in pain
and it's great. Caesar. Caesar does the You're a film and You're a
Bit Overexposed like Lione, and Wamu reacts to it like Lucy doing an armless
joke and just like ignores it completely. But because he's too busy doing like
having an existential question, he's getting his ass whooped by bubbles. And then
he he spots he's a spots woman trying to create a shield, and he
jumps in for a kick, which bad move. So I want to talk
about this kick for a second. I feel like Caesar kind of lines this
kick up like it's sort of his big finisher, but he's twice he's tried
it on Wammou twice now and it's gone successively worse each time. Yeah,
this time is like Wamu explains why it's bad. Yeah I believe, and
he's like what the fuck. The show explains why it's bad sorry, and
it's because he like, he just set up the fact that he's using a
refracted light to deal damage to Wamu, and then he jumps at Wammo,
creating a shadow and removing all that light. It's the first time. It's
the first time I said we're you know, I was like, oh,
this is just going to be bad. Yeah, you know, you know,
it's never like you know, you can never expect anything or not expect.
But like you were like, oh, this just looks very pedestrian.
This is gonna be bad everything. I was like, he's not going to
be a rush hour too. So that turns out to be a bad move
for Caesar because it gives one move the opportunity to unleash Divine Sandstorm, which
is just brutal. It shreds the entire lobby of the hotel, and it
fucks up. These are pretty bad, like really really bad. He looks
like he looks like a donokabab. By the end of it's up, he's
doing great. No, he's not doing great. War move is also hurting,
though, and he admits that he hasn't had a fight like that in
a really long time. And he also points out that if Cars, who
doesn't have a wind attack, fought Hare against Caesar, he would have probably
lost, which is like, damn, Caesar really got it. Caesar stands
up, but his muscles have been ravaged and he has pretty much no Hammon.
You can see that blood's poured out from him and there's basically no sayaving
Caesar, but he's still trying to fight, and he's throwing these like weak
little punches. Those punches are so sad, just like the worst, the
worst. Yeah, they're like hand slaps basically, and it's doing Yeah,
but like normal hand slap, not will Smith hand slaps, because those are
actually like powerful. And in one final act, Caesar grabs the piercing with
the antidote off Wamu and just yanks it off, which made me kind of
like Grimace because that would hurt. That would hurt. Yeah, it's a
trail of blood there too. Yeah, for a fact, show the motion.
He says that he's not fearful of death and he's a proud Zeppel.
It's in his blood. His dad sacrificed himself, the saved Caesar. Yeah,
Caesar, his dad. Yeah, his Grandpa gave hammon to JoJo's grandfather
before he died, and so Caesar two is going to leave the world in
a way that honors the human spirit and the spirit of the Zeppel family.
He uses his last of his homon to tie the ring and the headband together,
and then he does this really cool like scream of JoJo's name and uses
the last of his homon to create this like he says, like, I'm
going to use it, give it to Jojo. The voice is echoing out,
and he like falls to his knees and then he's crushed by a falling
bit of debris, that bit shaped rutle. Yeah, it comes out of
nowhere, and it's like, well, that's that's it's this is this going
to miss him? And then you're like, oh, no, that that
bit of debris is perfectly shaped like a crucifix that is definitely designed to kill
him. Yeah, And then so did he do did he like do that
on purpose? Like does he carve out a cross shaped piece of ceiling to
just fall on himself? No, that's like the last exis, it's symbolism,
it's the beauty of the Yes, fine, regardless of the shape of
the debris. I mean, does he blow up the ceiling so that it
falls on him, because it seems like he does this because woman used his
big uh. Yeah, but he like kind of a part of me thinks
a part of me kind of saw him like trying really hard to make this
not seem perfectly logical and plausible. I'm just saying, like he does seem
to you know, he puts himself in a little blood bubble. I get
it, but it seems like he kind of destroys the ceiling above him on
purpose, just to kind of like end it all. I don't think.
I think it's kind of the way I took it. What what do you
think, Lucy? Yeah, I think it was symbolism that he was sacrificing
himself. But Jesus on the cross for us ins and Caesar did the same
totally. I'm not saying he's not sacrificing himself. Yeah, it's very It's
not. If you're in a room where a man from ancient times is making
giant tornadoes come out of his hands and like shredding everything, just expect that
some rubble might have fallen, you know what I'm saying, It fell on
him at a really opportune time. Yeah, and if it happens to be
in the perfect shape of crucifix, don't think. Yeah. I mean look,
they were like blooming light in a crucifix ale shape till I'm not very
I'm not sure if crucifix is a word, but we'll move on it is
now. So yeah, So he crystallizes the loss of He uses his hammon
to crystallize his blood and form the message, and he's basically, I don't
want to use it to save my friend. And while move begins to suck
it in like he's like, but I'm gonna pick He was there. He
was like he could just walk over, but he was like, no,
he looks something cool Mud. It was weird. It was in this moment.
This is a reference that for John. He kind of reminded me of
Seth from three five four, and I just start to wonder if if Seth
was based on Well, that's interesting. I know that character. So you
don't don't lie. I swear to god I did his final move. I
don't know his final move is the only Jewish street Fighter player. Of course
I know who it is. Oh, we're talking about the character, not
so Tom I'll save for a little later, but I think like there's a
really specific character that Gil from Street Fight A three is based on. Yeah,
we'll get there. That makes sense, it will get there. Uh.
So Caesar's earned his respect one with respect as a warrior, and he
says, so he basically allows the bubble blood thing to go, and he
says he's a man whose life was brilliant and transient. As the sphere that
holds his legacy boom thematically blinks together. The bubble is the perfect attack.
It's an amazing moments. We were all wrong for doubting it. Yeah,
it's Bubble redemption is absolutely absolutely so. Uh it's just so, can we
get a giant bomb T shirt that just has a bubble on it and says
believe in the bubble? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jeffrey, what was
that? Yes, bubble redemption? Is that what you want to hear?
You said, it's just so pathetic, and I assume you were going to
say it's just so pathetic how we all thought it wasn't going to be a
good attack. I hate to break it to you, John, but I'm
not going to go down that road. What I am going to say is
uh, it is so pathetic that Caesar's last semblance of metaphysical life is encapsulated
in a stupid fucking blood bubble. I mean, come on this, like,
name how about this, John, Name something less pathetic. Okay,
name something less pathetic for all of Caesar's life force to be contained in a
pinball machine. I don't know. Damn you beat me to it. Damn
if you've just sped him that line and it's just been so much more effective.
Again, Okay, John Luke, we're gonna just take that back a
couple minute again. Here we go. What could be the machine? Jeff?
Oh? Fuck her? Take that? That sucks. I kind of
cool. I thought it was cool because, like, yeah, I liked
it. It was like it reminded me of like, uh, you know,
like Yoshi's Island when what's his face is captured in him but yeah,
you know, and really she makes a bubble of blood out of his own
Yeah, I remember. It's just so it's just like really like you are
just bubble man. That is your legacy. Okay. I thought it's cool
that it was like this is I'm using my blood. This is because he's
create because remember he talks earlier about this is a this is a matter of
bloodlines for him, and then they kind of talk about they framed their having
a like a sibling brotherly relationship, and then him like giving the last of
his power to Jojo in a container made of his blood is kind of symbolic
about them becoming closer than just sparring friends or peers. Now they actually like
brothers, blood brothers to it. A couple of hours ago, they were
now punching the ship out of each other. So now it becomes a matter
of bloodlines a couple of minutes, right, and yeah, and also,
you know, it's wild how much the Joe Stars owe the Zeppel's. I
mean, this is now two times where a Zeppel has laid it all on
the line for a Joe Star. I mean, I wonder if that's a
pattern developing. I don't wonder will it be the last? Yeah, Jojo
says Caesar helped him mature and his spirit burns within him now. So he
Jojo basically walks in and sees there's a bit where wait, no, Lisa,
Lisa, there's a bit before this where Lisa, Lisa, Lisa tells
Jojo not to have a breakdown right now, He's like, now is a
not a good time. She'sus clearly put in the work and done some damage
to war Musa. We've capitalize on this. And JoJo's like, you're heartless
but not showing any emotion. But she is, and you can tell because
her cigarette is backwards, which I have somehow written in this as because her
dog is backwards. Maybe I think sig oh, yeah, I tried to
write a sick and it ought to correct it as dog. That's funny,
but I love the idea of her backwards dog now to a little dog down
by her legs, and he just looks kind of weird. Lisa's grieving,
like I'm hiding in some true emotion. How do you know she's grieving?
Dog's headed on his house, just shit out of its mouth. That's right,
that's right. But yeah, she's she's got the cigarette in her mouth
backwards. I'm fasting, so when I laugh at expends a lot of energy
and I've gone, really, you must have a headache. So she's she's
holding it in because she's the sense and she needs to do that so Jojo
can keep his composure as well. But she is feeling it. Jojo says
that Sees helped him matured and his spirit now burns within him. And then
that's when some like light shines down on on where the crucifix is and just
to drive the point at home forward like a pool of blood. Emergency dead
from under fucked up because he's like he's like smushed under there, like it's
not super dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's very smushed.
Yeah. This this is what I was teasing earlier, where it's like it's
just so over the top ridiculous. They're sort of reaction to the whole thing
where I, like I felt it where I was like, oh fuck,
man, Caesar's that that's that sucks, like, but they just couldn't I
couldn't share their feeling with it because it just felt so uh like detached from
normal human behavior. Where I felt I was properly mourning the loss of Caesar,
but they were just being comical idiots about it. They couldn't figure out
like the right way to act. Uh Well, it hit me hard.
I was like, oh no, this was second And I really liked the
drawings of them crying as well, because I feel like you can tell they
got like the a game animators to do those poses, and they they're really
they feel quite emotional. I think. Yeah. The Jojo breaks down as
well, and he's his tears of grief. His cries are met with bitter
silence. Oh that line, that line was very, very touching, I
thought, because I have emotion, I'm like, Jeff, Yeah, I
didn't. I didn't want to say it, but it's upset. Upset Caesar
is dead. I didn't want to call his name. Happy met with silence.
Caesar is gone, his buddy is dead, but his soul will live
on. Rest in peace, Caesars, Rest in peace, Caesar and sol
Is bandana. Yeah, episode twenty one, one hundred against two. This
is the point where I watched the credits and it's literally in the credits that
Jojo is putting on Caesar's bandana and angrily crying and screaming into the air.
Right before that, there's a few frames of a blood bubble with a ring
in it. Jesus, I missed that, and it comes out of Caesar
in the previous show, Yeah Boilers, it's yea. So this episode begins
with us learning about the hotel, which was made in the fourteenth century.
Renovated to a hotel in the twentieth century, and then ten years ago it
was closed. Discovers it and it's like, I can make some use of
this, and he turns it into a shelter from the sun. Jojo meanwhile,
is in there. He's pissed because the place is day fucking idiot.
No ship, no ship, Like, there's an old hotel and there's a
big fight in here. What do you expect? What was there was such
a fucking strange thing to say, Joe. Yeah, he's like, why
is no one maintaining this hotel? That a vicious fight and my friend died
in moments ago is happening in So they're following one moves blood trails. Oh
you really got over Caesar, didn't you. Yeah, they're following one moves
blood trail, which was sustained from the wounds inflicted by Caesar's all powerful bubbles.
Yeah, and then Lisa, Lisa does a cool move to cut cut
down all the webs that fucking cry baby Joe Joe is complaining about, By
the way, felt like a waste of energy, to be honest, I
feel like you could just like wait ye away. But there was a lot
of them, and this is where they start need to show him that Lisa.
Lisa's like the real deal. She's yeah, she's leg And then Jojo
puts his hand on a door knob and this bit is so strange, weird
very is a weird in the shape of a fist, and I was like,
I don't I do not like that and what's going to happen? But
so actually it's not a door knock. Do you guys remember that old I
think it's a Leslie Oh, the guy from the Guy from Naked Gun Nielsen
Spy Hard, And there's just seen in Spy Hard where like his like boss
has this like running gag where he keeps disguising himself as like paintings and couches.
There's something that to me is so nightmarish and I don't know why I
always have nightmares about that stuff, like people it's pretending to be like for
this bit freaks the hell out of me Because of that, I don't want
to shake someone's hand when I open a door. Is it Naked Gun where
he's got an assistant that's always trying to kill him? Un think it might
it might be another movie like a detective the movie. It's also because it's
the gratuitous lengths at which the boss goes to trick him where he like buries
himself in the garden like things like that, where and he's always and he
has this like wiry mustache, doesn't he with this? And he's always smiling
and he's like I got you, and he's like I was here for eight
days like that kind of stuff. It's very upset that eats a story The
Human Chair. You guys read that? No? No, oh, Jeff,
Lucy, I will, I'll send you guys something. It's good.
Okay, it's very good. An Amazon link to purchase it legally. Absolutely,
that's what I meant. The donob actually turns out to be attached to
a vampire that fades through and immediately cuts the JoJo's clackers. It cuts the
rope that connects him. Yeah, not its bold because actual up in the
clackers cut my clackers. The vampire is named Wired Beck, which, Lucy,
did you think this was a reference to Beck? No? I was
like, this is Jeff Beck. Yes, and the namesake is Jeffrey Arnold
Beck, who fronted the Jeff Beck Group and the Beck Bogar and Apiss Wired
is his third studio album. I would I would not want to be I
would not want this guy named after me. I was not a fan of
this. Yeah he was real bad. Ye. Yeah, he immediately reveals
that he strangled his lover and then escaped from prison. There's just there's just
a real like or slash men's rights vibe off this guy. Yeah, yeah,
he's he is one of those people. I did enjoy off the number,
off off the shoulder number that he had gone on though with his I
mean he did. Yeah, he was snapping his suspenders a good amount.
Ye for a fact. Yeah. So Cars made him part of the crew,
which means they've started ending people in the area and and adding people to
their crew. And Joe Joe is like, all right, you rap,
you're going to help. I love that he calls him a rat. But
Lisa Lisa does a cool face step in front of Jojo and it's like you're
ugly, You're ugly, and you suck. Wired Beck makes spikes come out
of him, like wired Beck. I'm skipping over the bit where he's like
really shitty to Lisa Lisa and he's like, oh, you're pretty, why
don't you come over here and maybe we'll do stuff, and it's like a
right of wired. Beck makes spikes come out of himself and then he goes
in for a big old hug. And then Lisa Lisa pulls out a scarf
and she looks exactly like Rose from the Street Fight. So I think that
I think that's why Rose. This is where Rose came from. Yeah,
I would not be surprised. So she also like basically the same origin,
like as in like her thing is like she Rose does like psychic stuff,
so it's basically come on. She wraps the scarff around him, and Beck
like rips it off, and it is like Lisa Lisa, Lisa Lisa is
like, all right, let's go, We're done. She basically ignores him
and moves on. And then Beck appeals to JoJo's misogyny and his bit where
he's like women right and it's crazy crazy yeah, And Jojo just like makes
fun of his like speaking style because he adds the phrase a zura to the
end of most of his sentences, which is kind of like it happens what
in fiction the way like Noo ends most of his sentence with ducted by all
like it's not it's just a speech affectation, so he just takes this out
of that and then walks away, and then Beck just basically dissolves because the
cool shit that Lisa Elisa did with her scarf. So that's basically the show
going. Lisa. Lisa's incredibly powerful, which we need to she gets into
a fight Jeff and Lucy, how are you feeling about Lisa? Lisa?
Is this before or after she puts the sunglasses on? Either either or either
or because something certainly changes when those shades pop on, where She's like,
we're in his real dark hotel. I'm gonna put these shades on because it
helps me see better in dark, in the dark, and I'm a fucking
badass. Now, Uh, She's she school's fuck. What can you say?
Like, never had a doubt? Yeah, Jo she's powerful, but
she she's understated, classy, comfortable with herself. I love her. Yeah,
she's great and you know who else loves her? Now Lisa. Lisa
has proven herself to Jojo and she's like, damn, she makes me look
like an amateur. And then JoJo's like, FI, if you if you're
wondering well at Lisa, Lisa kind of asks him doesn't she. Jojo says
that he won't take the antidote until after they beat Wamu, and then she
tries. He tries to give it to her to look after the piercing,
to look after it, and Lisa Lisa's like, I can't take that pic
who know what? Who knows what will happen to me, which is following
the death of Caesar is very ominous. You're like, oh no, I
can't. I can't lose another one. One was like yeah, just like
just like yeah, like come like take tick the Yeah, just like why,
like you could lose it in the fight, like you It creates an
anxiety that I don't appreciate. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, very seems
like such a yeah, what a what a crazy move? One move meanwhile,
has been recovering least Alisa and Jojo entered the room and begin to fight.
They notice two foot sets of sets of footprints, and Jojo is like,
holy shit, there's two people here, and then Lisa Lisa's like sharp
for a second, and then she points out that she can hear the breathing
of dozens and one Moan is like, oh, you're a first rate of
Harmon Warrior. And it turns out there are loads hundreds of vampires hanging from
the ceiling and causes there too, sitting on a very uncomfortable looking chair.
It looks like it fucking hurts to sit on that chair again. Though it
does beg the question why do vampires need to breathe? It does yet look
yeah, I mean in this universe they're breathing. What can I tell you
it? Because because how else? How else would they smoke weed? I
don't, I don't know they need The first time, the first time I
ever watched this episode, it was fan subbed, and there was a bit
where Joseph looked at the ceiling and said, oh no, the surprises vampires
and that line always still get me. Oh god, I thought you're gonna
say. Jojo looks up the ceiling and says, those vampires are hanging from
the ceiling. Therefore they are still like that. That's a good strong We
thank you. And that is where the title of the hundred Verses two comes
from. This episode, there's one hundred vmpis and there's only two of them.
Cause is about to take them out, but one who's like, please
let me fight one v one and causes like, shut up, no causes
got a common sense. He's like, no, let's just take care of
this real quick. That's not passed about. I do kind of like that
about cars, because whereas an AC and a c DC and wham, we're
all like, you know, they got their warrior ship and all this kind
of stuff, cars is like, no, I just I don't fucking care.
Can we just get the stone? I just I just want I just
want to become immortal. I don't want to kill. He is the piccolo
of this group. It's just like just get on with it, which works
perfectly, uh Joe. Joe bates them and he's like, I know you
can beat you, but all these vampires are kind of weird that it would
be shame befa. And he's clearly like laying the string for his barrier move
and he's doing it in a proper like Looney Tunes way where it's I have
I bought into the bugs Bunny analogy a couple episodes ago, but now I
am all in in a way where this motherfucker like he's laying down the fuse
to a bomb and it's just sort of like, what's up, Doc,
you know, just Moon walking around this room behind him. Oh it is
so fucking good. Yeah, and they all like notice it happening, and
it's like and Jojo gives it up. He's like, oh fuck. And
Lisa Lisa, however, he's got an actual plan and she's like, if
you kill us, you won't get the Redstone of Asia, and because she
left it at a place that one of them has to go to back to
to get and also there's a timer bomb on it that will blow it up,
and she's like, it's not a big explosion, but it's big enough
to destroy the crystal. And instead she proposes that Jojo Huamu Cars and Lisa
Lisa one v one and the winner gets the tone. It's a big gamble.
But Cars is like, all right, cool, it's so good because
Jojo, this like blissful idiot has to just here. I'm supporting the the
the Joseph Joe Stars is the worst Jojo argument here where he's just like,
yeah, there's a bomb on it that that's our plan. So this just
like takes a moment to just like, you know, agree with everything Lisa
Lisa says, and he has to like stop for a colorful, fucking little
explanations. This is like when when your friend picks a fight and then hides
behind you, and then like when you're like, be off my friend,
your friend from behind is like, yeah, how do you feel now?
Exactly. So Jojo realizes that she's basically turned a dire situation into more or
less even odds by using that technique that bargain, and they decide to fight
under the full moon that night, sixteen kilometers southeast of their current location,
such a specific distance at the foot of the Pitts Berlina at the hot hallo
around where warriors have fought an ancient stone circle they call the Skeleton's Heel and
Lisa Lisa is like the skeletons the ancient stone circle like she seems to know
about it, which is interesting, and Joejoe is told to bring the red
Stone to the circle while Lisa Lisa has to stay with them. Jojo texts
Messina and starts heading back and who revolves to fight for them all. He
finds the red Stone of Aja and then notice there's no time bomb. He's
like sick smart and then where he's cementing his place says shit, hes Jojo.
He starts looking for her panties. Just I'm not just gonna says when
when you all back pedal on this and like four episodes too late, I
don't want to hear apologies. I don't want to hear nothing. It's going
to be too late. Okay, that's all. That's all continuing. An
evolution shows an evolution. I'm sorry, I just say not not defending the
underwear thing sounds like you're defending it. No, no, no, I
think I think John's just saying, like, just you wait, whatever it's
coming will definitely wipe aside the fact that it's it's gonna make the bubble cutter
look like a joke. What's he even gonna do? And I can't say
the word panties? I can't. I'm sorry. Okay, so it's such
a fucking you can say the Japanese. I get you, Like I've never
understood that thing of like now I have someone's underwear, It's like, who
fucking care? What are you gonna do with? Like who gives a ship?
You know, washed someone? They probably fired into that bunch. Uh.
Instead, he does not find pants, he finds or panties. Aprot
it's such a horrible word. Who thinks that word sounds sexy. I'm sorry,
it's a real bugbear of mine. Instead, he finds a picture album
or pictures of Arena, which is his grandma, and it's marked for fifty
years ago. And also in the picture is alongside young Arena is Speedwagon and
Strazer who's holding a baby. And then that's when Jojo realizes he doesn't really
know anything about Lisa Lisa's past. Now he realizes that he doesn't know anything
about Lisa Lisa's past. So they all gather at the fighting spot and Jojo
proves has got the red Stone of Asia by like putting a flame up to
Na fires like a little beam and like, yeah, that's that's legit.
Yep. Then he hands it off to Lisa Lisa, and then he also
gives her the follow album and this, friends, is where we get the
breakdowns. Starts dropping some law Lisa. Lisa reveals that fifty years ago,
Arina lost her husband while traveling on a ship across the Atlantic. This is
basically the end of the first part that we saw, and that was Jonathan
Joe Star Joseph's grandfather. Arina saved a baby's life. Lisa, Lisa is
that baby that Arena saved on the ship? Jojo is like, incre routine
girl, Yeah, how did you guys feel about that reveal? I was
actually glad because I was like, I wondered where that baby would come back
into it? Right right? So I'm glad. Yeah, I'm with Lucy.
I think the only thing that was strange was what followed right after here.
Damn if you want to Yeah, Jojo gets weird again. It's like
how old are you? Like fifty years ago? He starts doing the math
and then and then he starts being like she looks like even she's in her
twenties, and you know she doesn't act cute or anything like that. It's
just like he's basically saying your oldest fuck, but you look young and hot?
What's going on? He's just like he can't just be like you look
fantastic? Can't you can't be like what Lucy is like said, and he's
like dropped the skin quick, routine, quick, what are you doing?
Yeah, you asked queen, how are you or acid? Yeah? I'd
love to see funny. Instead, he's just been a bit of a creepy
again. Cars and WAMU like a big old fire, which is nice of
them keep everyone warm to say, well, don't ask this question. How
are they going to light their blunt? Yeah, smoke the blunt and the
fire to actually, sorry, just a slight divergence here, Lucy, if
you don't mind, can I read aloud the first Berserk update you sent me
a couple of days ago or last week. So Lucy told me that she
was going to start reading Berserk, which is my favorite comic of all time.
And I was very excited to hear that, and so I was like,
yeah, yeah, you know, cool, send me on the send
me on the updates, and I was, I was, I was anxiously
awaiting, and this was the first one she sent me. And it starts
with two words Berserk update. Last night I got exceedingly high and read some
I'm not sure if I recommend because I don't remember what happens. I forgot
about that, and then the next night I had to go back and reread
it. Will reread it? Yeah, yeah, so I haven't you know
what I learned my lesson. I haven't read Berserk will high ever since.
So exactly, And like Lucy, sometimes the vampires want to light up a
blunt and to do that, they need to be able to breathe, and
that's the only thing that fits both things, right. Yeah, but yeah,
but I take gummies though I don't I don't damage my lungs. Well
this was this was, this was the nineteen forties. Yeah, gelatine was
the thing. Yet Lucy loves to gobble them gummies. My favorite bit they
like the fires is that all the lads that are like, I think they're
trying to be enthusiastic about the fire, but it just comes out like whoo.
But it kind of sounds like both to say about to say about those
vampire guys, and they're all just like normal people from the nineteen forties who
have decided to dress up as Roman centurions. Yeah, I guess right.
They're just kind of LARPing as like these, you know, they're like,
no, I will concerned the fact that like giant men who are wearing nothing
are about to fight. And also when the next bit where in vampire horses
arrive, they horses are the dinosaurs. They could be dinosaurs. At first,
we've at first we fear they could be dinosaurs. Also, just to
go back, go on, just to go back to those like dumb dumbs
who are just sort of like not really happy to be there. They a
couple, you know, before they were hanging from the ceiling as like scary
as vampires, and then you know, the lights come on and they're all
just sort of like these ugly motherfuckers just like just like these drones, kind
of a letdown. Gotta say no more, you know, piercing red eyes
or anything like that. Before we get to the fight. Lee Elisa's like,
we've got to cut this convo short, but we need to talk more
because our roots are entwined, and she lost her parents to the Stone Mask
since Erina was pregnant when she found out. When she found Lie Selisa,
she was raised by Strazo, who taught her hummon and also gave her the
Red Stone. So Strazo was her foster father, and she's like, but
we'll figure this out later. She kind of explains that Strazo was driven mad
by a fear of old age and says that Jojo was kind of destined to
defeat him, but she still kind of feels a ways about the fact that
he killed her foster father. But Jojo is like life, it's complicated,
man. Yeah, The ground shakes and these evil look horses up there.
They're like rampaging, and the guy who's like controlling them's like, I can't
keep them under control, and JoJo's like, are those dinosaurs? And Wamu
basically looks at the horses and exert some sort of overwhelming influence and they just
come to a stop and they chill out, and I think Cars explains that
they were created using the stone mask. So Wamu and Jojo are going to
find in an ancient death match a chariot duo. They're gonna ride through the
arena as they battle, and JoJo's like, dude, that sucks. These
horses are under your control. That's not fair. But CAUs is like,
actually, you can control them as well because the rains conduct hm on And
then Lisa Lisa puts a little bit of hum on into the rains and it
has the same impact as what Wamu did. They calmed down and start becoming
like pliable, and then JoJo's like, Wamu, I haven't taken the antidote
yet, and then he's like, I'm going to take it off. Throw
I fucking whoop your ass, and then he puts on Caesar's head band.
It's crazy that he actually says fucking whoop your ass like in English. Yeah,
he says, it's actually my voice that comes through, like just you
recorded that? Yeah? Yeah, oh man, that is where the episodes
end. Episode ends point. Yeah. I hit a point in twenty one
there where I knew they weren't gonna do the fight. I was like,
oh fuck. I was like, God damn it, They're not gonna do
it in this episode. Yeah, I'm learning that. So I was I
thought, like, you know, again, like it was funny because I
was like, you know what, as soon as he as Jojo found the
book with the photographs right in the suitcase for at least at least, I'm
like, Okay, I wonder if they're gonna expl because I'm I'm being conditioned
every minute during this program during watching all this. So I said, So
it's funny because they was watching and I'm like, okay, they're gonna talk
about this probably while they're jumping. They're like, they're probably all going to
be in the air when they have this back and forth about who she really
is. And you know, it wasn't that, but it was essentially like
right before this fight starts, let's have this like a wildly uh you know,
uh verbose exposition about what her origins are and what the connections are.
But I thought like the timing of it, oh, it was like it
kind of like didn't exactly nail the landing there at the end for this,
I realized, and like you said at the top, like this feels like
almost an episode, you know, because these these episodes travel in threes in
a lot of ways. Or maybe that's just how I've been thinking about them,
because the way we're recording our show here, but I feel like so
far they've really worked in threes, right, So I did feel like,
oh, this this just feels a little bit like a filler kind of thing
where maybe they could have gotten down to business. Not a criticism, just
more of a just like, oh, okay, that's that's a different way
that they did. Yeah that's all. That's all. Yeah, But that
brings the episode to a close. I think it's a pretty exciting place to
stop. We're finally the crux of the kind of arcs so far very difficult
to not keep watching. Yes, yes, but the next few episodes of
FIR remember correctly, all very good. I am waiting for us to be
ashamed of our words and deeds with regard to Joe Joe. Yeah, I
guess we'll see now that we know what lies ahead, It's very exciting.
I you know, I couldn't believe we're already in the twenties here with when
I saw the actual because I'm just hitting like, continue watching on Netflix and
it'll just do it. When I saw the actual episode numbers, I was
like, wait, what Yeah, yeah, we're far really clipping along when
you watch three episodes at a time. It's true. If someone said it
would take us like how many years to catch up to actual where the show
is at? Like two years? Really? Someone said two years? It's
I think on Twitter. No, I did the math today, just like
for fun to see how a lot him much if we did one piece in
this format, how long it would take us to catch up? We would
all be in our hundreds. Oh my god, there's over a thousand episodes
from that. Yes, too many. Well, I for sure am going
to watch Joe Joe for the next two years. I mean, we're hopefully
do a podcast. Depends on example listening you've got. Some might say it
depends on the cadence of the people on the podcast and some of their wilder
opinions. Wow. I wouldn't realize it's the pot us too. But yeah,
if you want to, if you want to carry on listening, you
should rate, review, subscribe, send it to your friends, tell people
about it, shout from the rooftops so that we get more listeners, and
you know, I can continue doing it. John, Please, what what?
Where? Where you are? I am? You can just search super
ipatch Wolf and unfortunately I will be there at the time of recording. You've
just released a nice long video about Berserk, which is one of our other
favorite shows series is Yeah, you should check that out. Boy, we
could. We sure could do a real uncomfortable podcast about Berserk. I think
I think that would be really fascinating from from from that Perserk. Wow.
Like I say, we put a bullet in that idea right now, just
just no Stacey involved. Would be like, I can't. I can't be
here for this. You're not tapping me on my show. I need to
leave. Okay. Yeah, Berserk one of the greatest piece of media that
humanity has ever created my estimation. Also, you're just kind of trigger to
talk about in some ways. But yeah, very very very very very very
very tricky. Yes, yes, Lucy, we were. I'm Lucy James
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always, Yes, thank you. We already missed a trick not saying like,
oh, I'm Lucy James Games everything everywhere all at once, you know,
that was just that would have just dated the podcast, though, unlike
the shout out for a video that released that will be many, many weeks
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