1 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:44,840 Hey, everybody, welcome, here we go Happy Monday. It is that 2 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,439 time again, Matt Connerton unleashed and we are live from the studios of w 3 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,280 m n H ninety five point three FM in Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. 4 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Also on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester, and hello to Oliver 5 00:00:59,759 --> 00:01:02,759 on our listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to 6 00:01:02,799 --> 00:01:07,680 my website Matt Connerton dot com for your live streaming options, social media links, 7 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,519 contact in Folk Show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is Monday, 8 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,280 May twenty two, two thousand and twenty three, So nice, have y'all 9 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,599 with me. By the way, that track that we just played, that's 10 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:23,319 called Artie Lange. That is from the band l Trevino. And they are 11 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:27,959 our featured musical guest skyping in at the top of the hour, our number 12 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,519 two numerow doos looking forward to speaking with them. They are from Where are 13 00:01:32,519 --> 00:01:37,000 they from? Are they from Arizona? They're from somewhere in the Southwest. 14 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,560 I believe Derek Ralaford, who's a friend of the show. He's called into 15 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:44,599 the show before a long time ago, and he's sent us music before too. 16 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,400 I think he and his brother are in the band together and they're on 17 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:53,280 Spotify. Great great stuff. I really like this band a lot, so 18 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:57,840 we played um, we did play a couple of their early songs, but 19 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,000 now they've got a full album up and that'll be coming up. Like I 20 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,159 said. In the second hour, Jenny is in the chat room. She 21 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:07,159 says, I so like that song big time. Yeah, I do too, 22 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:12,080 I do too, really great song and uh, actually I like everything. 23 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,360 Everything they've done is really good. They have a song called in Blue 24 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,319 that is just fantastic. But anyway, so that will be coming up later 25 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:24,400 today. If you'd like to give us a call, six zo three two 26 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:28,759 five six Z seven is a number six Ozo three two five O six zoo 27 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,039 seven. The studio line is open. You can also text me at six 28 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,080 one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media at 29 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,759 Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com, and 30 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,599 of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But the 31 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,479 best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is 32 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,800 to give us a call at six zoo three two five O six Z SEVENH 33 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:54,680 Yes, Jenny confirms, Yes. L Trevino is a rock band from Phoenix, 34 00:02:54,719 --> 00:03:00,639 Arizona. That's right, that's right, gets hot there gets but it's 35 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:07,800 a dry heat from what I hear. But I'll tell you though those summers, 36 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,520 even even even with a dry heat, that that can't be easy. 37 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,879 Let's see, we'll go ahead and say a load everybody in the Facebook live 38 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,560 chat, and then we'll get into some some stuff. Note a couple of 39 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,159 things we can talk about, but you know, the big, the big, 40 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:27,080 big, big, big big issue that is looming looming large as we 41 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:36,319 sit on the precipice of economic catastrophe. Exciting, very exciting. But we'll 42 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:38,479 go ahead and say a load everybody in the Facebook live chat. Our friend 43 00:03:38,479 --> 00:03:44,439 Fredo joins us or Alfredo Enrique Benavitis. I do so love to say us 44 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,120 full name, he says, Yo. Fredo will be Fredo has been on 45 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:53,680 the show a number of times and he'll be back representing his band Dank Sinatra 46 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,879 soon. I know Jenny has them booked and excited about that. Always nice 47 00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:01,960 to see Fredo in studio. Fredo and Friends. Actually maybe he should start 48 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,360 a band called Fredo and Friends. That'd be that'd be kind of fun. 49 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:09,639 I like the sound of it. Jay Fed joins us and says a good 50 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,280 afternoon everyone, as well as Melanie Liberty, also hailing from the great state 51 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:17,600 of Vermont, of course, the Green Mountains state. I believe it's called 52 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,800 they have the Green Mountains? Do answer as the White Mountains. Uh, 53 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:27,319 it's like it's like a gang thing. You know, we're gonna we're gonna 54 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:30,399 rumble over our mountains. They are. I don't know where I'm going with 55 00:04:30,439 --> 00:04:34,040 that. It's doesn't matter. I'm going to wherever was. I will abandon 56 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,160 it immediately. Chris Rose joins us in the chat, ran from the Commonwealth 57 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:42,360 of Massachusetts. Hello, Chris, I don't know what they call their mountains 58 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,519 in Massachusetts. What do Chris? Uh? If you if you can respond, 59 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,120 what do you call your mountains? Or do Massachusetts mountains even have a 60 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:57,160 name? That's my question to you, sir, Alex Whiley joins us all 61 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,800 the way from the UK. Alex of course, host of The Shrewsbury Biscuit 62 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:09,680 and other podcasting and broadcasting adventures, Alex is singing Hey Jude from the Beatles 63 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:13,959 in the Facebook live chat. Also Ronda Favero from the great state of California 64 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,480 is in the chat room. Hello, Ronda, nice to see you in 65 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:21,399 there. We'll give you the number one more time. Oh, Melanie says 66 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:27,240 in the chat room, Massachusetts has bad driver mountains? Is that really what 67 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:32,319 they're called? My goodness, bad driver mountains? I think actually, to 68 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,560 be completely honest with you, though, and I'm not sure I'll have to 69 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,120 look this up to verify this. I think Melanie might be being a little 70 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,839 bit funny. I don't think they're really called that. I don't know. 71 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:47,120 I think she's making a joke about the drivers in Massachusetts. But let me 72 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,560 just say this, I think there's bad drivers everywhere. Now. I remember 73 00:05:51,639 --> 00:05:59,360 a time where I used to take pride in the way the people drive in 74 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:04,160 New Hampshire versus places like Massachusetts. But I feel like post pandemic. I 75 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:06,879 can't be the only one who's noticed this. I haven't heard anyone else make 76 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:15,199 this observation, but I feel like post pandemic everyone is more aggressive, well 77 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,160 just generally, but it really comes out in driving. I mean, I 78 00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:28,319 don't I don't recall pre pandemic so many people laying on the horn if I 79 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:33,480 have someone behind me sitting at an intersection and I fail to accelerate at the 80 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,959 precise millisecond that the light changes. I feel like there's a lot more of 81 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,639 that now. My favorite thing is if I'm slowing down to to turn at 82 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,759 an intersection and I have my direction alot, I do it the right way, 83 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,519 but the driver behind me decides to honk at me anyway, because apparently 84 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,319 my slowing down to make that turn safely is going to cause the driver behind 85 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:04,120 me to arrive at their destination and entire two three seconds later than they would 86 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,120 have otherwise, and that is infuriating to them. Obviously. UM, not 87 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,240 a stereotype, but it's every time that happens, it does happen to be 88 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:16,720 somebody in a big truck. So no offense if you're someone who drives one 89 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:23,920 of those great, big, giant pickup trucks, but you might be the 90 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:29,759 problem anyway. It's just an observation. It's it's never anybody in a Volkswagen 91 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:38,439 bug who is harassing me for simply making a turn. It's always somebody in 92 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:42,360 a big truck. And then they and then uh, they honk at me, 93 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:46,439 and then once they're past me, because I've already turned. I can 94 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:53,399 hear them. I hear them speeding up because they're you know, now they're 95 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,040 driving off in a horrible huff of anger because I've I had to turn and 96 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:03,120 it it delayed a couple of seconds. And apparently that is Look, I 97 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,279 get it in a sense, right, You're all, if you're driving a 98 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,560 vehicle like that, you're already frustrated because while you're driving a big vehicle like 99 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:18,040 that. So, yeah, there might be something you're something you're dealing with, 100 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:24,519 it causes you to need to drive such a large vehicle. But putting 101 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,360 that aside, look, you must be spending an intolerable amount of money on 102 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:37,720 gas and to drive a vehicle like that. So I can see where spending 103 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:43,759 that much money to fill up your your big truck, I can see where 104 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:50,519 that would be a cause for tremendous angst and rage. And so you see 105 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:58,480 me in my little fuel efficient Nissan Versa, and you're feeling a little resentful. 106 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,519 You know, you got to drive the big truck because, uh, 107 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,759 that signals something to the world, that communicates something to the world that is 108 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,799 very important for you, a very important signal for you to be sending out. 109 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:15,320 I understand. Uh but uh, but but so you've got this um, 110 00:09:15,399 --> 00:09:18,960 this angst, this resentment, and uh and you just you know, 111 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,120 and and maybe I don't know, maybe you can feel some sort of vibe 112 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,080 coming from me that uh, we might not line up politically. I don't 113 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,240 know. I don't know how you would tell that from the way I drive 114 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,559 or what I well, you know, like I said, I drive a 115 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,679 pretty fuel efficient efficient vehicle. I mean, it's not a it's not an 116 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,320 ev as the young people call it. It's not an electric vehicle. It's 117 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,759 not that fuel efficient. But uh, you know, but it's not a 118 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:48,159 big truck. You know, I'm not. I don't have something that uh 119 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,320 exudes a certain machismo. So you might think, oh, you know, 120 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,960 probably a Biden voter, and you're and and so you're just, uh, 121 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,360 you're just so angry with me. And you might have been u behind me 122 00:10:00,399 --> 00:10:05,279 a couple of miles at that intersection where I didn't accelerate at the precise nanosecond 123 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 that the light turned green. So by the time we get to the intersection 124 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:13,840 where I have to turn, you're just boiling with rage. And you know, 125 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,120 hey, I get it. You know, everyone has their their cross 126 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,320 to bear, and I'm sorry if my existence in traffic in front of you 127 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:28,799 has somehow completely destroyed your day. I do feel badly about that. So 128 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:35,759 such a terrible thing, And I'm sorry if I cause you to spill your 129 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:41,200 chewing tobacco all over yourself at any point as you're having a freak out that 130 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,840 I saw happening as I looked in the rear view mirror, I could see 131 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:52,679 you just flailing your arms in a fit of rage as I was slowing down 132 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,200 to make that right turn at that intersection, and you just couldn't handle it. 133 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,000 So, you know, I feel badly about that. I do. 134 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,639 I mean, you know, hopefully you didn't have to stomp on your brakes 135 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,320 really hard or anything and then you're you know, your gun rack when flying 136 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,600 off or something that would be terrible. You should really make sure that that's 137 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,840 secure. Anyway, there's a lot that can go wrong, and we should 138 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,039 all be nicer to each other on the roads. But I do I do 139 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,960 think that, uh, I do think that, you know, people are 140 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,039 a little more aggressive on the road since the pandemic. I think that by 141 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,679 the way that part. I mean, look, I'm I'm being funny about 142 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,519 it. I'm being snarky about a lot of this. I'm mean a little 143 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:45,840 bit flippant, which some listeners seem to like or they like to hate whatever 144 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,120 whatever it is. But I'm not I'm not actually not kidding when I say 145 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,960 I do think that the drivers are generally more aggressive. Actually, I know 146 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,879 that there's data and statistics that show that there wasn't an increase and uh, 147 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:03,559 well, obviously there was an increase in car accidents from when there was nobody 148 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,600 on the road during the you know, the the shutdowns, lockdowns, et 149 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,840 cetera, when there was barely anyone on the road, obviously, but but 150 00:12:13,039 --> 00:12:16,440 uh, in terms of you know, when our when everything opened back up, 151 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,360 um, there seemed to be Uh, there's data that shows there there 152 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,399 were more car accidents nationally happening, uh than there were pre pandemic with the 153 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,039 same levels of traffic. And uh, yeah, I think that I think, 154 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,039 you know, I mean, some somebody might say, well, everybody 155 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,039 just forgot how to drive. No one was driving, every everybody was talking 156 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,720 home, everybody forgot how to drive. But no, I think there's something 157 00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:46,080 deeper there. I think there was a lot of just pent up anger and 158 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:54,759 uh, you know, uh, I remember. I mean it was interesting 159 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:58,039 when there was nobody on the roads. I remember I had to go to 160 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,399 Boston one night, something business related, and it was I had to run 161 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,399 down there and back and it was just it was like peak lockdown period and 162 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,039 I had to run to Boston and it was so bizarre. It was like 163 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,440 being in a zombie movie. It was so strange being in Boston at night 164 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,679 and there's nobody on the roads. That was weird. But anyway, I 165 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,720 think, yeah, but I'm sorry. You know, if you're someone listening 166 00:13:28,759 --> 00:13:35,559 to the show, if I've upset you out on the roadway with my lack 167 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:43,639 of acceleration, my failure to risk getting a speeding ticket by going the twenty 168 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,840 miles an hour over the speed limit that you would probably prefer if you were 169 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:50,240 behind me, thinking I'm gonna get bagged. Not you. I assumed that's 170 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,399 your assumption. I was redundant. I'm sorry. I assumed that was your 171 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,840 assumption. I shouldn't I pick on people for doing that, being redundant. 172 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,000 I try never to be redundant or repetitious or repetitive, or just say the 173 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:09,320 same things over and over. So I apologize. I really, I really 174 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,519 try hard. I really endeavor. I make an effort not to do that. 175 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:18,440 But oh, Chris from Edgewise is in the chat room. Chris says, 176 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:24,399 just think there were so many predictions in the fifties and other times we'd 177 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:30,200 have flying cars. By now society still not ready. Oh yeah, I 178 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,279 know. Can you imagine. Can you imagine if we had flying cars and 179 00:14:33,879 --> 00:14:37,840 you know, I'm flying around in a car and there's somebody in a much 180 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,799 bigger car just doesn't even want me in the same sky as them, and 181 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:48,600 they're freaking out. Melanie says, zombie movie. Really the undead, we're 182 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:54,799 trying to consume your flesh. Yes, that did happen, Melandie. So 183 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,720 what happened was so I'm in Boston at night, it's at the height of 184 00:14:56,759 --> 00:15:01,799 the shutdowns, and there's nobody around, and I'm marveling at how nice it 185 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,279 was. Actually, it actually was kind of nice. Well, I'll tell 186 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,440 you what we gotta you know, the pandemic terrible time. And if you're 187 00:15:09,559 --> 00:15:13,440 a long time listener, a regular listener, you know, I take the 188 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:16,720 COVID nineteen very seriously. So but we find those silver linings where we can, 189 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,039 right, it was kind of nice. To be able to maneuver around 190 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:28,440 the city without worrying about being in a terrible car accident every second because Boston 191 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:33,519 drivers are very aggressive. I was thinking the other day about my first time 192 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,279 ever driving in Boston. I was nineteen. I was going to visit a 193 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:39,120 friend of college. It was you know, I'd been to Boston of course 194 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:41,120 many times growing up, but it was the first time I'd ever been the 195 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,679 one driving, and it was scary. But I learned to kind of put 196 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,919 myself in a state of hyper alertness and just try to know what's happening on 197 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:54,200 all sides of the car at the at the at once. But but yes, 198 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,840 I'm maneuvering around the city and the roads are empty, and yes I 199 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:03,080 was that a red light. It's true, Melanie. And uh, some 200 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:06,559 people. At first I thought they were just they had a very bad limps. 201 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:11,519 I thought they were just limping along. And then they started limping toward 202 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:15,960 the car, and I was like, hey, get away from the car. 203 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:22,559 There's a pandemic. I don't want whatever's uh making you limp like that. 204 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,480 And uh, yes, they tried to get into the car and uh 205 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:30,840 make me one of them, and and and consume my flesh. It was 206 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,120 very frightening. That did happen, Melanie. But I was smart. I 207 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,519 was smart. I locked the doors. They couldn't get in the car. 208 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:48,879 Ah. Yeah, uh, let's see. Oh. Dave Wally is in 209 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:53,360 the Facebook live chat, says, you serious, Clark. Is that a 210 00:16:53,399 --> 00:17:00,440 reference to a National Lampoon's vacation? Said vancation vacation? Vonics Matt. Very 211 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:06,920 important, Melanie says, you're so dramatic. Hey, it happened. It 212 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:11,880 happened. You know, people act like encounters with zombies or just a big 213 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,079 joke. But I'll tell you what you have a brush with having your flesh 214 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:21,640 eaten. I dare say you'll be singing a different tune. Oh, National 215 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Lampoon's Christmas vacation. Yes, thank you. Let's see. Miriam Banish, 216 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:32,279 also in the Facebook live chat, Hello Miriam. Jay Fed says, I 217 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:34,480 can't believe that was you, Matt. I was out in my truck today 218 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:38,079 and I guess that was you that slowed me down. Thanks well, I 219 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,680 apologize, Jay Fed, I apologize, but you know, rules of the 220 00:17:42,759 --> 00:17:47,640 road, buddy, Rules of the road. No. But seriously, anytime 221 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,480 that ever happens to me where somebody's honking at me and I've done absolutely nothing 222 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,759 wrong. It is always somebody in a big truck. I'm just saying that 223 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:03,400 is always the case, or an Amazon on driver. I had a well, 224 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,599 well we'll move on in a moment, I promise, But I remember 225 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,160 posting pictures on Facebook this. This was probably more than a year ago, 226 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,240 but I had an Amazon driver almost plow into me because I'm I'm I'm coming 227 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:25,440 up to this intersection and this Amazon driver is turning and he's turning onto the 228 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,640 street that I'm on. And you know, with the Amazon trucks and you 229 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,240 know other companies have these two like Ups and FedEx where you know you can 230 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:38,559 you've got that that wide open where there would be a door, you know 231 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,599 you can you can lean right out as you're driving. Um, apparently because 232 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,599 this guy did that. He goes to turn, and I had the right 233 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:52,119 of way and it's not like I intentionally put myself in his way, but 234 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:57,920 he goes to turn, he cuts that corner much too close, almost hits 235 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:03,799 me, and he's as he's driving, he's managing to kind of lean out 236 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,680 out the truck and he's yelling at me for for being in his way, 237 00:19:10,039 --> 00:19:14,000 and it's like, dude, I know, uh listen, I know. 238 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,480 And by the way, I'm not being snarky about this, this is a 239 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:21,599 legitimate I'm being sincere when I say this. I understand those guys are under 240 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,680 and ladies are under a lot of pressure. They're under a lot of pressure 241 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:30,200 because you know, they have to. Amazon is notorious for, you know, 242 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,960 the way they treat their drivers and the pressure that they put on them. 243 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:36,680 It's not like other companies like FedEx and UPS. They have a really 244 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,799 good reputation actually, uh as far as how they treat their employees. Peter 245 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:44,559 White from the Morning Show, he used to work for UPS. But um 246 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,480 Amazon, you know they have to pee in bottles. They they you know, 247 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,359 they can't even stop to use the bathroom apparently. Um so I understand. 248 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,720 Again, it's probably similar to the angst that one feels if you're driving 249 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,839 around in a big truck and you're spending all of your money on gas. 250 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:07,480 But that guy was out of control. He was crazy. He swarred me, 251 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:12,119 and everything just happened to be there at the intersection how to stop, 252 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,039 sign waiting to go, and he goes he got he cuts that corner and 253 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:21,720 he's flipping out at me. It's like, dude. But again again, 254 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,960 I do believe everybody's more aggressive on the road post pandemic. I do believe 255 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,680 it feels good to say that though post pandemic. I guess now, right 256 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,759 the emergency orders ended, so the government says it's officially over. I guess 257 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,440 I mean, actually, the truth is about COVID nineteen. We're gonna be 258 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,880 stuck with it for the rest of our lives, but hopefully we can keep 259 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,000 it at the level it's at now. If you'd like to give us a 260 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:52,680 call six Z three two five six seven six Z three two five six seven, 261 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,079 the studio line is open again. Coming up at the top of the 262 00:20:55,079 --> 00:21:00,000 hour. In our number two new merodose, we have l Trevino from Phoenix, 263 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,839 Arizona skyping in. Really looking forward to that. I'm not sure if 264 00:21:02,839 --> 00:21:06,160 it's only Derek Ralford from the band. He's a friend of the show. 265 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:08,920 I'm not sure if it's just Derek or if there will be other band members 266 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:12,720 on with them. I know that he does that that band with his brother, 267 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:17,200 and yeah, I played one of their songs at the top of the 268 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,359 show. We'll play another one in a little bit really really like that band. 269 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,359 Jay Fed says, you were way over the line. I bet I 270 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,279 was not, sir, I was not, How dare you? I was 271 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:36,079 safely in my lane and that Amazon driver was unduly rude and I was very 272 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359 upset. I was. Look, I'm not a big road rage guy. 273 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,960 I don't have much you know, I'm a pretty easy going guy anyway. 274 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 I don't have much of a temper. I don't go around yelling people. 275 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 But I'll tell you what the way that Amazon driver treated me. I'll just 276 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:51,960 say this, and again, I don't mean to use you know, I 277 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,519 have to be careful what I say here. It's we have FCC regulations and 278 00:21:55,559 --> 00:21:59,680 it's afternoon drive and young people could be listening. So forgive me if this 279 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:02,680 is a little rough, but I will I will say this. I will 280 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,640 say this, and I don't say this often, but that that really upset 281 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:11,119 me. I was a significantly peeved I was. I was there. I'm 282 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:18,759 sorry if I upset anyone with that. Let's see we should oh, let's 283 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,400 let's we'll wait on that. I don't know. The debt limits like the 284 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:26,720 big thing that's on my mind. But it's depressing, you know, the 285 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,799 I don't know about any of you, but I do find the prospect of 286 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:37,359 global economic armageddon depressing. Might just be me. I'm not sure you know 287 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,799 the idea of destroying the global economy as we know it. Um, that's 288 00:22:40,839 --> 00:22:45,000 a little it's a little worrisome to me. We should acknowledge though, uh. 289 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,200 Senator. Some other news, Senator Tim Scott of the great State of 290 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:55,200 South Carolina getting into the race today for the Republican nomination. So Tim Scott 291 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,880 throwing his hat into the ring for vice president. Now you might hear me 292 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:03,519 say that, and you say, whoa, Matt, No, you misspoke 293 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,400 there, You said vice president. Yes, because that is the office that 294 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Tim Scott is running for. My friends, See, you have to remember, 295 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,160 when you decide to run for the presidency, there are other reasons to 296 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:19,000 run for the presidency other than actually wanting to be president. Not to suggest 297 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,440 that Senator Tim Scott does not want to be president, but he knows he's 298 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,440 not going to be, at least not this time. But he might be 299 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,799 vice president. That's another reason to get in. Trump is going to be 300 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:36,920 the nominee. I say that with no great joy or pleasure, but I 301 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:44,039 do say it with an understanding that that's simply the objective truth. Now, 302 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,720 that's why I refer to him as the presumptive presumptive nominee. You know, 303 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,920 you look at polling data, it's already it's the same pattern as twenty sixteen. 304 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,839 You got all these, all these candidates, and you know Trump is 305 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,920 the only one with a a big slice of the polls. Everybody else is 306 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,359 in very low numbers. That's not any reflection. Nothing I'm saying should be 307 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:17,359 considered any reflection negatively on Senator Scott at all. I actually think in a 308 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,640 different year he would be a phenomenal candidate. I really do. I mean, 309 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,640 you know, he's pretty conservative. I probably don't agree with him on 310 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:32,960 very much, but I think he'd be an excellent candidate. But but this 311 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,920 time around, it's going to be Trump. But I do think he would 312 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,480 be a very strong vice presidential candidate. So I think that's why he's running. 313 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,559 Same with Nicky Haley. I think she'd like to be Trump's running mate. 314 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:51,279 I would have said that about I did say that about Ron De Santis 315 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:57,359 at one time, although the dynamics of that are very strange. Not sure. 316 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,559 Asa Hutchin, former Arkansas governor, who's also in the race. I 317 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,960 don't see him as Trump's VP. He's gonna go with somebody young, I 318 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:15,400 would assume and for his VEEP, and it will be and not someone Asa. 319 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,279 Hutchinson. Again, very conservative, so I probably disagree with him on 320 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:25,920 most things. I'm sure that I do. But he's been critical of Trump. 321 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:27,039 Now. He doesn't go in hard on Trump Ley, you know, 322 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:34,759 he doesn't talk about he doesn't really get into January sixth and all that much. 323 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:38,960 But but it's sort of in a broader sense, Hutchinson talks about how 324 00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:42,319 he wants to return to the Republican Party is more I think he has more 325 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:45,559 of a traditional you know, he's not a young guy himself. I think 326 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:51,119 he's seventy two, So I think he has kind of a traditional idea of 327 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,880 thought that the Republican Party should return to more of the Party of Reagan and 328 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,759 well less the Party of Trump. You know, he talks about he doesn't 329 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:07,680 like the politics of grievance and looking backward and so forth, and he is 330 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,640 most of his criticism about Trump that I've seen has been he he feels like 331 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:19,400 if Trump is president, his term will be largely about punishing his enemies rather 332 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:26,480 than governing the country. Um. I think he's right, so he doesn't 333 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,480 like the vindictiveness of Trump, but he's not going to be the veep. 334 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,880 Chris Christie, UM, probably announcing this week. Rhonda Santis definitely announcing this 335 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,279 week. Um, Chris Christie of course, former governor of New York. 336 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:49,279 I'm sorry New Jersey rather Um and uh Rhonda Santis, governor of Florida. 337 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:56,640 UM, oh my god. There's so much to say about that guy. 338 00:26:56,759 --> 00:27:00,319 And every day there's more to say about that guy than there was to say 339 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 the day before. That's why I haven't said that much. It's too much 340 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:07,480 to keep up with with that guy. Um. Who else is in the 341 00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:10,640 who else has thrown their hat? And well, we had a candidate in 342 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,200 studio, Steve Laughey, who is running. Uh. We don't talk about 343 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:18,759 him much because while I like him personally, I enjoyed meeting him. I 344 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,799 enjoyed talking with him both on air, and we had a nice conversation off 345 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:27,319 air. Actually we had a conversation off air was more interesting than the one 346 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,200 we had on air, which is actually true with probably a lot of guests. 347 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,599 But um, uh again not somebody I you know, I don't agree 348 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,480 with him on probably most things, but uh, you know, but I 349 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,759 enjoyed talking with him. He seems like a smart guy and certainly competent. 350 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,559 But uh, but he has no no, no, no chance whatsoever. 351 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,799 Um, let's see, Uh, is there anybody I'm forgetting who's already announced? 352 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Uh, you know, there's there's always a speculation Chris and Nunu, 353 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:02,279 our governor here in New Hampshire, might announce anyway. Whoever, whoever gets 354 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,559 in, either they're getting in because they're trying to counter Trump in some way, 355 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:11,160 or they want to be his pick for VP. But there's, like 356 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,680 I said, there's there's plenty of reasons to run for president that don't actually 357 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,599 involve wanting to be president. Um, you get to uh you know, 358 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,640 it's it looks great on your on your bio online, right if you know 359 00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,559 former presidential candidate, you know, if you if you want to increase your 360 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,400 speaking fees in the future, Um, very often. Oh I know who 361 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,920 I forgot Mike Pence for no big deal, just former president of the United 362 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,920 States. Uh, yeah, Mike Pence. He's expected to announce soon too. 363 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,920 I know DeSantis is definitely this week, and it sounds like Chris Christie 364 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,240 is almost definitely this week. I think Pence probably what was the last thing 365 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:59,240 I heard about Pence? I think I think in June he's expected um and 366 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:03,079 once we get asked June, that'll probably be it. I don't think anybody 367 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,359 else will be getting in past that. Usually by usually by the beginning of 368 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:14,559 summer, you've got you've got everybody you're gonna have, um Pence. You 369 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,319 know, Pence has a book to sell. UM. So that that's another 370 00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,680 thing too. If you've got something to sell. A good way to sell 371 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:30,599 it is a run for the presidency. It's a marketing campaign that other people 372 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,599 who like you pay for. I mean, think about it. You raise 373 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:40,079 a bunch of money from your donors to run for president, and you get 374 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:47,079 to go around and promote your book with the money that was donated to you. 375 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,799 It's like the people most likely to read your book or books are the 376 00:29:53,839 --> 00:30:00,000 ones actually paying for you to market to them what they either have already read 377 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:06,440 or might want to read or maybe want other people to read. Um. 378 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,799 It's a great and by the way, I'm not knocking it. Hey, 379 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:11,000 I don't knock the hustle. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. 380 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,880 Um, you know, one of the most obvious examples of that that I 381 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,000 can think of in history is in twenty twelve, twenty twelve, right, 382 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:26,480 yeah, twenty twelve, when Newt Gingrich ran for president. Literally his campaign 383 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,480 events were book signings. He and his wife, Callista. They've they've written 384 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:37,960 they've both written books, many many books, they've produced documentaries. And that's 385 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,079 what their campaign events would be. They wouldn't be campaign rallies. They would 386 00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:48,480 be you know, book signings at national bookstore chains or even local bookstores, 387 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,799 and uh and they would sit there and they'd sign books for people and signed 388 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,799 DVDs and of their documentaries and so forth, and that was that was it. 389 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000 I mean that, you know, uh, you know, couldn't be 390 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,119 more obvious than that. And again I'm not I'm not knocking it. Hey, 391 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:07,759 that's that's cool, you know, I don't I don't have a problem 392 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:11,079 with that. But I'm just saying, there's many reasons to run for president. 393 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,400 I'm quite sure that Senator Tim Scott, who announced today, realizes he's 394 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,279 not going to be the nominee. But but I didn't hear him say anything 395 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:30,000 negative about Trump today. Which means he might want to see. Part of 396 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:37,119 the thing is too with these candidates, they don't they don't tend to go 397 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,039 after Trump, you know. I mean, Asa Hutchinson does a little bit. 398 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,640 Chris Christie has, and he seems to be like, if he gets 399 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,519 in, he's going to be positioning himself as really against Trump. We'll see 400 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:56,559 if that holds, though I'm skeptical that it will. Mike Pence does everything 401 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:01,319 he can to avoid directly criticizing Trump, even though Trump, in my view, 402 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,279 directly put Pence and his family in danger on January sixth. But I 403 00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:14,880 guess Pence is cool with that. What a guy? Huh. So you 404 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,960 know the candidates that try to avoid directly criticizing Trump, there's actually two reasons 405 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,119 to avoid directly criticizing Trump if you're in the field. One is you don't 406 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:29,400 want to upset the base because the Republican Party the way it is now, 407 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:34,119 if you you know there there are some people can get away with it depending 408 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,480 on their position, but generally, if you if you're in that field of 409 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:42,000 candidates and you start criticizing Trump, you know you're the whole party is going 410 00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:45,359 to turn against you. And you have even I mean, you have no 411 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,039 chance of being the nominee to begin with, but you have suddenly have even 412 00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:52,200 less of a chance. But the other thing is too if you want to 413 00:32:54,599 --> 00:33:00,359 be a prospective vice presidential pick, you don't want to directly criticize him because 414 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,400 you want to you know, you can softly criticize him, but you don't 415 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920 want to go too hard because you don't want to make him angry with you, 416 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,640 so that when he does clinch the nomination, maybe you'll be on his 417 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:20,279 list. So Scott Robinson and the chatroom says, never to fear Matt. 418 00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,799 Oh, this is regarding the debt limit that I'm very, very worried about. 419 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,440 Never to fear Matt. The top one percent will be just fine with 420 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,839 the global economic meltdown and everybody else will suffer, but they'll be okay, 421 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:39,400 that is true. Yes, yes, there will be uh. I mean 422 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:45,359 we're I'm not by the way. I really I shouldn't be so negative. 423 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,359 Part of it is dark humor. I am legitimately frightened, and I was 424 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680 in twenty eleven. I remember going through this in twenty eleven when we really 425 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,880 came right up to the edge and I thought, wow, I can't believe 426 00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,759 are elected lawgivers and overlords, as I like to refer to them, are 427 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,159 actually about to push the self destruct button on America. Huh. I never 428 00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:10,239 thought i'd see the day and then they didn't push the self destruct button. 429 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:16,920 But I think now it's even more possible. You know, we've talked on 430 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,920 the show a lot about the fourteenth Amendment and invoking that. There are some 431 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,880 who say Lauren Stribe, who actually changed his opinion on it, the constitutional 432 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,400 scholar he wants and sometime advisor to Biden, and he was an advisor to 433 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:37,360 Obama. Pretty respected guy, you know he wants. At one time said 434 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,079 you know, you can't invoke the fourteenth Amendment. It's not a good option. 435 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:44,360 And now he's changed his tune. He actually thinks it would be a 436 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,800 good option. And it would be actually much more difficult than people realize for 437 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:52,960 anyone to challenge it in court because you can't sue the executive branch for refusing 438 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,199 to violate the Constitution. But of course, in order for that to work, 439 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,559 you have to accept the premise that at the fourteenth Amendment makes the debt 440 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:09,039 limit itself, the statute that creates the debt limit unconstitutional and not everyone necessarily 441 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:13,559 accepts that premise, and all it's going to take. This is what I 442 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:19,719 think makes the fourteenth Amendment option so precarious. If you invoke the fourteenth Amendment, 443 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:24,440 all it's going to take is some depending on where it lands, who 444 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,519 brings the suit, and what judge it gets in front of. All it's 445 00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:34,119 going to take is some Federal Circuit Court judge to put an injunction on it 446 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,559 so that saying that the Fed can no longer can't continue to make those payments. 447 00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:45,199 What happens if it goes to the Supreme Court. You know, it's 448 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,800 a conservative leaning Supreme Court, but then again they might look at this as 449 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:53,920 well, you know, we interpret we interpret the Constitution this way and this, 450 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,039 and yeah, we we think the debt limits unconstitutional, and they might 451 00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,280 strike down the debt limit itself, and thereby the fourteenth Amendment goes forward. 452 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:06,280 And that would actually be a positive outcome in the sense that if the fourteenth 453 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,639 Amendment were to succeed, and any challenges against they were to fail, then 454 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,960 that would actually permanently solve the problem. Right there would be no debt limit. 455 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,119 The debt limit would have been deemed would have been struck down by the 456 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,719 Supreme Court, and not that those decisions can't be overturned. We all know 457 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:30,239 they can, certainly, but that might be a positive outcome in the long 458 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,000 term. But you're right, Scott, the one percent will be just fine, 459 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,400 will be just fine, will be wi LLL. I don't mean will 460 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,800 be like we apostrophe LLL. I am not part of the one percent. 461 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:52,039 I don't even know what percent I'm in. Scott robinsons, I'm a I'm 462 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,840 in a bottom I'm I'm in the bottom one percent. I think Scott Robinson 463 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,400 says, what really kills me with laughter is that when you all ways are 464 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:06,920 going to text that top one percent, all of a sudden, the shipping 465 00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:10,639 problems and every all these problems come. Okay, I don't know. I 466 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:17,480 think Scott's using voice to text and I'm lost. Okay, anyway, Welcome. 467 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:24,320 The point is welcome Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina into the presidential race. 468 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,679 And Trump has welcomed him as well. I did see that, he 469 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,079 said. Trump commented that big step up. Oh yeah, it's right here. 470 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,039 Trump, welcome sim Scott twenty twenty four GOP Primary, saying, quote 471 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:45,480 a big step up from Rond sanctimonious. Speaking of ron To sanctimonious, Although 472 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,000 tiny d is my favorite nickname that Trump came up with for him, I'm 473 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000 also a fan of meatball ron ron to sanctimonious. That's a lot of syllables 474 00:37:54,039 --> 00:38:00,199 to spit out. But maybe we'll save the debt limit talk for for after 475 00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:09,039 our our musical guests in the second hour. But can I just wonder, 476 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:19,599 I mean, does Disney only appeal to Democrats or it is our Does Ron 477 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:25,400 de Santists believe that Disney is only for Democrats and that Republicans all hate Disney? 478 00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:31,440 Is that the play here? Because actually listen, and I'm again I'm 479 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,320 being a little bit flippant. But if I had to guess, if Governor 480 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,639 Ron de Santas and Florida had it to do all over again, I really 481 00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:43,639 don't think he would have ever started this war with Disney. I think he 482 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,800 would have bristled at their criticism of the so called Don't Say Gay Bill, 483 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,639 But I don't think he would have ever tried to go to war with Disney 484 00:38:53,559 --> 00:39:00,679 because it's not going well. Disney just canceled that one billion dollars project. 485 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:08,599 Disney is the state's largest single site employer in Florida. De Santis is taking 486 00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:15,880 all kinds of fire from both the left and the right over being anti business 487 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:25,880 because he's so anti Disney, and I think what has happened here, this 488 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:34,960 is my belief. I think what has happened here is he thought that you 489 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,119 know, he was obviously desantist, loves the whole culture war aspect of Republican 490 00:39:40,199 --> 00:39:47,880 politics. People wonder why, I know, John Hopwood is confused by it. 491 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,519 He criticizes me over it and others too. But people wonder why I 492 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:57,719 cling to Governor Chris Sanunu here in New Hampshire. And I have a lot 493 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360 of criticisms of our Republican governor, but as well. Believe me, I 494 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,480 do more so in the last year. But I do appreciate. The thing 495 00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:12,199 that I appreciate about Governor Sanunu is he's no Governor Ronda Santis, and he 496 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:19,599 to me, he represents kind of what the Republican Party used to be before 497 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,199 they I mean, there's always been Republicans have always really embraced culture war issues, 498 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:30,960 but I've never seen it quite this. I'm sure I have, and 499 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:36,639 I just it's a matter of perspective and it changes over time, but I 500 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,559 don't remember ever seeing it, or at least I haven't perceived it quite this 501 00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:46,280 bad as it is right now. And Dasunu Dasunu. In my mind, 502 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,840 I've created an amalgam of De Santis and Sinunu da Sunu, which is odd 503 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,239 because here I am talking about the differences between them. I mean, I'm 504 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,159 sure it admit most policy matters, they're probably quite similar, actually, but 505 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,039 Uno doesn't seem to have any particular appetite for the culture war stuff, and 506 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:13,280 he seems to represent a more pragmatic, practical and um uh not so angry 507 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:19,599 and grievance stricken and you know, desantist. To me, represents the part 508 00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:28,320 of the Republican Party that's just very very angry, very mean, um you 509 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,079 know, hateful uh and and I don't get any of that from Sinunu. 510 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,079 And I always say too, you know, Sunu kind of fits in with 511 00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:40,679 those, um you know other Republican governors like uh, I mean, they're 512 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,360 you know Charlie Baker, who of course is no longer there, but you 513 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:51,480 know former governor of Massachusetts, or um, Larry Hogan of Maryland. You 514 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,960 know, these blue state Republican governors not that we're a blue state. We're 515 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,639 more of a We're more of a purple state, I guess. But you 516 00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,960 know Massachusetts and you know other other states where you have Republican governors in blue 517 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:08,199 states who actually are able to appeal to swing voters by not seeming like these 518 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:16,840 just crazy, psycho hateful like demons, you know, like Ronda Santis, 519 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:23,960 I mean de Santis? Who is it? Is it? The NAACP just 520 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:32,400 put out a travel advisory saying that black Americans should not travel to Florida because 521 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,679 it's become such a hostile place. And de Santis just he's all in on 522 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:45,360 all of it. He loves the culture war stuff to the point that again 523 00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:52,199 I think he's operating under the assumption that Disney is only that Disney is so 524 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:58,679 woke and so progressive that surely only Democrats want anything to do with Disney. 525 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:04,679 Republicans probably all doesn't he just as much as he does, right, I 526 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,039 mean, that's that's again. I think he if he had it to do 527 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,159 over again, he'd realize he botched this. He does, he probably does 528 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,360 realize he botched it, but he's gone so far with it he can't stop 529 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,000 now. So he's just going to continue his war with Disney. But uh 530 00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,519 no, but you know, Sononnu to me represents uh he's a kind of 531 00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:29,280 Republican I'm comfortable with more of a moderate uh not angry, mean and hateful 532 00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:32,880 Republican. You know, there's like a reasonable, a reasonable guy. I 533 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,400 have plenty of disagreements with him, but I'm not I'm not frightened of him, 534 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:40,599 you know what I mean, Just like I'm not frightened by Charlie Baker 535 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,960 or I'm not frightened by Larry Hogan. He seems like these seems like reasonable, 536 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:53,320 moderate Republicans who uh aren't complete psychos like frun to Santa's just Hee's like 537 00:43:53,320 --> 00:44:01,320 like he's psychotic, like like like he like he just fantasizes about the next 538 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:07,719 insane law that he can pass against uh some minority group that he just you 539 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:15,159 know, just wants to stomp on so badly. I mean there's something wrong 540 00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:22,519 there. I mean he's and he's actually he makes Trump look like a loving, 541 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:30,199 uh inclusive guy. But uh yeah, DeSantis will be announcing this week. 542 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:40,039 Isn't that nice? Um? By the way, I have plenty of 543 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,400 If you're new to the show, and uh if you're if you're getting the 544 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,719 idea, if this is your first time tuning in and you're getting the idea. 545 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,400 Oh, this guy what is he just Uh, he's like the anti 546 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,920 Sean Hannity. He just sits here in rips on Republicans. Oh no, 547 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,559 no, no no. When we get to after we have to our segment 548 00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,480 with our guests, we will get into the depth limit. And I have 549 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,679 I have a lot to say about Democrats because with the debt limit, there's 550 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,320 plenty of blame to go around. But I think the way that our president 551 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,039 and by the way, there's some things I do like about Joe Biden. 552 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:23,599 There's some things I give him credit for. For example, I think I 553 00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:31,800 think the way that he's um handled very carefully arm in Ukraine against the Russians, 554 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,079 which is a delicate balancing act because we don't want to get into a 555 00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,599 nuclear war, you know, right, So it's bad enough we're going to 556 00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:42,559 have economic arm again, I'd rather not have a nuclear one too. So 557 00:45:42,639 --> 00:45:45,440 I think the Biden administration has done a great job there. But on the 558 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:51,679 debt limit, I think that I'm realizing more and more this guy needs to 559 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:59,559 step aside and let somebody younger make a run for the Democratic nomination, because 560 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,360 he has gotten himself in way over his head. And it's one of those 561 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,199 things where I look at it and I realize, you know, I've never 562 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,840 served a single day of my life in any elected office whatsoever, never worked 563 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,360 in politics. I've never been a political strategist, never worked for a campaign. 564 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,079 Uh, you know, aside from running my mouth about politics, the 565 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:30,559 only actual official political act I've ever done officially engaging with government is voting. 566 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:40,599 And yet I saw all of this coming, but our president, I guess, 567 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:46,159 didn't see any of it coming. And now he's he is in completely 568 00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:59,800 over his head on this and it's it's uh infuriating, it's disappointing, and 569 00:47:00,519 --> 00:47:06,000 it's inexcusable. There's no excuse for any of this. And so I have 570 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:12,599 some mean things to say regarding that side of the aisle, but you'll have 571 00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:20,679 to stick around for that. Melanie just made a comment in the Facebook live 572 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,360 chat that I cannot read on the air, but it was but I very 573 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,599 desperately wish I could read that on the air, and Melanie, I agree 574 00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:32,320 with you. All Right, we're gonna play a well, no, actually, 575 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,239 I'm sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself here. We had to take 576 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,599 a break. We're gonna take a break. We're gonna show some love to 577 00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,840 our amazing sponsors, and then we're gonna play another track from our musical guest 578 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:45,400 today, El Trevino, and then when we come back from that, we 579 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:52,039 should have at least one or more of those fine gentlemen on Skype with us, 580 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:53,679 and really looking forward to talking with them. I love their music. 581 00:47:54,199 --> 00:48:00,519 But let's take a break, show some love and we'll be back. Our 582 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:04,239 number two Matt Connerton Unleashed coming up. We are live. Don't go away. 583 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,880 Come on down to the Hop Knot at one thousand Elms Street, Manchester's 584 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,880 premiere craft beer and gourmet pretzel bar, tell Us More at Trudy. We 585 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,159 make our dough fresh every day. 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Their phone number is A six 603 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:06,519 six eight four one forty six hundred or on the web at CGI Business Solutions 604 00:50:06,760 --> 00:51:31,639 dot com. She comes to me like she followed, like their own way 605 00:51:31,880 --> 00:53:43,480 the time the Twins A way to see can Chain your mind? Now? 606 00:53:49,199 --> 00:55:21,199 Sit here? Talk was so wart s Hart River, SI come inside the 607 00:55:21,400 --> 00:56:22,360 True Love Shed because chair was so what shop being Broke? I love that 608 00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:30,760 track? L Trevino, Derek is that you? This is me awesome, 609 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,159 awesome, Hey, sorry about sorry. About a couple of minutes ago, 610 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,320 I had to I Skype crashed on me and I had to reboot it real 611 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,840 quick. I get it, man. I used to use Skype every night 612 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,800 for my radio show, but I switched it up about like two like right 613 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,039 when COVID happened, we switched and yeah, this is the first time I 614 00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:50,280 fired up in a while. So yeah, I had some issues too, 615 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,199 man. Yeah, we use it quite a bit here at the station, 616 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,079 and I know Peter on the Morning show uses it, I think pretty much 617 00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:00,840 every day and it only once in a while does it have an issue. 618 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,719 But uh, but when it happens, it's well. Actually, at least 619 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,320 I was able to restart it really quickly this time. Sometimes it completely freezes 620 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,320 up when it does when something does go wrong. It's more reliable than it 621 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,599 used to be. But welcome to the show. And if you're just joining 622 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,320 us, this is Matt Connerton Unleashed. We are live from the studios of 623 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:23,719 Whom Glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven if you're 624 00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:30,239 in Manchester and uh that song we just heard Alberta coming back from the break 625 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:36,159 from the band l Trevino and Uh Derek Llaford from the band joins us on 626 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:39,280 Skype and Uh, Derek, when was the first time we played some of 627 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,280 your music? I feel like it was a couple of years ago, two 628 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,440 or three years ago. It was it was a walk Away, I think 629 00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:47,960 was the first song that we played. Yeah, I think so. Basically, 630 00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,599 I think I sent you that because I started playing music when COVID happened, 631 00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,400 because I used to Trevino is actually a really old band, but we 632 00:57:55,519 --> 00:58:01,400 all started having kids and and just got really jaded with the idea that, 633 00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:06,199 uh, realistically it was never going to go anywhere, so like we were 634 00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:10,239 just wasting time. But when COVID happened, my brother ended up moving up 635 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,440 to Arizona, where I live, and we ended up stuck together for you 636 00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:16,920 know, as long as you know. The initial lockdown went and we were 637 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,000 like, let's let's write some songs and yeah, we one came up pretty 638 00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:24,440 quickly and you were awesome and played it and uh we uh we had decided 639 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,440 to. That was me and my brother and a drum machine. Actually is 640 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,840 what you played last time I sent you. Now we actually got the whole 641 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,239 band back together again, and um, bad knees and everything. Yeah, 642 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,360 I was gonna say it definitely has a full band sound. Yeah I didn't. 643 00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:42,239 Well, actually I think I do remember you telling me now that um 644 00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:45,760 uh that that the other music that you would send me back then was was 645 00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:50,400 uh, you know, pretty pretty sparse in terms of you know, like 646 00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:53,239 like just you guys in a drum machine. But um, but sounded sounded 647 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,880 really good. And the newer stuff is great too. You've got it. 648 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,679 So you've got a full album up now on Spotify. Yeah, we just 649 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,920 put it out. It took us a year to record it. A lot 650 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,719 of the songs are some of them are new, some of them are decades 651 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:15,760 old, like um, so essentially the first time the band Eltrino put out 652 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,280 an album was in like twenty twelve, and it was basically everything was written 653 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,320 by me and my brother, including like bass, everything except for the drums. 654 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,800 And we were sort of known for working like that, and when COVID 655 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,840 happened, you know, there was no jamming anymore, There was no getting 656 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,719 together with people. So I actually just started reaching out to friends and just 657 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,840 saying like, hey, what kind of recording equipment do you have? And 658 00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:46,719 that entire album, mine the drums we recorded in a buddy's house in Kansas. 659 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,920 Like it was not a profess it was it was a professional studio considering 660 00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:54,159 the equipment that he had, but it was like his basement essentially. And 661 00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:00,159 then I ended up shooting over to La to record the vocals. Uh, 662 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,360 But it was basically because a buddy of mine has a has a nice spot 663 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,039 in a studio there and I got a good deal. But essentially the entire 664 01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:12,239 record was recorded at home. And that was the real fun part about this 665 01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:15,239 is to realize that, a holy crap, we can make music from our 666 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:20,320 living room. That's awesome, man. Yeah, that's a subject of conversation 667 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,079 quite a bit on the show when talking to musicians, is you know, 668 01:00:22,119 --> 01:00:25,800 because I ask everybody who comes on, what's your process? Because you know, 669 01:00:27,039 --> 01:00:30,480 um, I mean I'm old enough to remember when you know your your 670 01:00:30,519 --> 01:00:34,079 options were if you wanted to record, basically, you go to a studio 671 01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:37,519 and you shell out that money and and uh and you record. And of 672 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:38,920 course, now we live in a time where you know you can you can 673 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,559 go to a studio, you can record at home, you can do it 674 01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:46,000 all kinds of ways or or a combination of ways and uh and come out 675 01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:51,800 with something that, um, that sounds like it was recorded in a million 676 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,679 dollars studio. And you know, maybe part of it was maybe the vocals 677 01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:59,719 were or you know whatever, but but or maybe the whole thing was done 678 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,840 in your living room music. Never know, it's um, it's a remarkable 679 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,199 time to be alive in that sense. The technology that we have now, 680 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,039 UM just incredible. And um so how long have you and your brother have 681 01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:15,360 been been working together on music? Now? Then? Oh so we um 682 01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:21,119 pretty exciting them to June thirtieth, we're going to go back to our hometown. 683 01:01:21,199 --> 01:01:25,159 It's a it's a little town called Elkhart, Kansas, about fifteen hundred 684 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,719 fifteen hundred population. Um, nobody knows who cares about this town. Over 685 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:36,400 the last four years, I've been doing a podcast about my hometown, and 686 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,159 uh, for the first two and a half years, it was very pleasant. 687 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:45,480 It was all nice and stuff, and then about six months ago I 688 01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:50,599 started releasing some of the my My small town in that area is sort of 689 01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:55,840 famous for unsolved murders and stuff. Really yeah, it's it's pretty interesting stuff. 690 01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:00,800 So I kind of started releasing stuff like that. And anyway, long 691 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,519 story short, the podcast has from my hometown has really taken off, you 692 01:02:05,559 --> 01:02:08,480 know, as I'm getting every single of those fifteen hundred people mad, if 693 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:14,599 you can believe it. So we're gonna be playing a gig there on June 694 01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:19,280 thirty, ath a free show for everybody there at an amazing like for as 695 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,639 small and unrelevant as this town, as they have an amazing theater. So 696 01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:29,159 we were like, that's cool. But we started in Elkhart, Kansas and 697 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,000 like I think probably two thousands, so we had twenty three years ago, 698 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,320 and that was the first time I ever played music in front of people. 699 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,320 So this is gonna be like a really cool homecoming type situation. Oh yeah, 700 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,519 like twenty three years man, Wow, that's cool. So but you 701 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:50,400 said, You've made a lot of people mad there. So so what kind 702 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,920 of a I mean, the marketing of this is fascinating to me. So 703 01:02:54,039 --> 01:02:58,239 what kind of a reception are you expecting there? I mean, is it 704 01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:04,880 because not everyone there's necessarily going to be happy? It sounds like um honestly 705 01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:09,559 like so the it really boils down to the unsolved Thomas sides from my town. 706 01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:14,519 Um, yeah, you're a broadcaster. So most people I asked this 707 01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,039 question, they don't They don't know who I'm talking about. But do you 708 01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:22,280 know who um, Paul Harvey is. That name is very familiars, not 709 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,079 a He's not a comedian, is he? No? I don't quote me, 710 01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:30,559 but I think he's like a Colorado area radio guy. He was. 711 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,559 He was older when I was in high school. He's been passed on for 712 01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:37,239 a while, but he was. Everybody would listen to him around my town, 713 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,480 and he had a famous segment where he would read a headline and then 714 01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:44,280 he would tell you, like you know, he would he would dissect it 715 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,079 from the other side of it, and his his his tagline was and that's 716 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:52,119 the rest of the story. Oh, yes, okay, yes, I 717 01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:54,360 do know who you're talking about now, I recognize that tagline. Yes, 718 01:03:54,559 --> 01:04:00,440 okay, yeah, So long story short like it sometime in like the late 719 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,519 eighties early nineties, Paul Harvey said on the radio, if you want to 720 01:04:03,519 --> 01:04:08,360 get away with murder, do it in Elkhart, Kansas. And so I've 721 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,679 heard that my whole life. On my I have a Facebook page dedicated to 722 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,320 my podcasts, and you know, hundreds of people like they tell me the 723 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,559 date they heard him say it, which none of them really hap. And 724 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:23,079 I started doing research and there's this website. I don't know the guy's name, 725 01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:25,880 but he has and don't quote me, but I believe the dot com 726 01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:29,440 is no, Paul Harvey did not say to get away with murder in your 727 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,159 small town. Apparently, like this is like one of those things that like 728 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,559 hundreds of towns across the country say that they swear Paul Harvey said this about 729 01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:42,360 their small town. So it's kind of weird. I don't know where it 730 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,519 started, yeah, but when I started kind of you know, asking questions 731 01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:49,440 and poking around about some of these unsolved homicides, it kind of hit me 732 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,880 that, you know, Paul Harvey probably never said if you want to get 733 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,199 away with murder, do it in such and such town. But I've also 734 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,639 been working in true crime on a missing person's live stream for three years and 735 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,599 I hate to say this publicly, but yeah, you might as well say 736 01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:11,800 that it Like, honestly, it is so scary how many crimes go unsolved, 737 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,320 how many people never get found, and who knows what the reason is, 738 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,039 lack of resources, lack of but it is, you know it really 739 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,159 You can really say that about almost any any town, any small town, 740 01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:28,320 there's probably a lot of unsolved crimes that will probably never get solved, you 741 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,519 know, But how many can you put a number on it? How many 742 01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:38,159 unsolved murders in Elkhart? So I think, like on the record, I 743 01:05:38,199 --> 01:05:41,639 can come up with like five or six. On the books. When you 744 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,559 get into family members reaching out to my website involving their loved ones and a 745 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,599 suspicious death, you can get up into the twenties. One of the most 746 01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:56,639 notable ones is a girl was killed, well she was missing in Elkhart and 747 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:02,239 seventy one, and same same thing you would hear about any missing person's case 748 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,800 in the seventies. The parents were freaking out and the police were saying she 749 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,679 ran away, no big deal. And then eleven days later they found her 750 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:17,719 body and like just the amount of and again, I love Elkhart. That's 751 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,159 the reason I did two and a half years of the Beautiful Side of El 752 01:06:21,199 --> 01:06:26,920 cart because you know every town even you know you're in Manchester. I bet 753 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,559 that I've never been there, but just hearing you talk about I bet it's 754 01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:31,199 a gorgeous place. But I bet if we looked hard enough, we could 755 01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:34,559 find some scary stuff there. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, 756 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,519 you know what I'm saying. Every place has a CD underbelly. But 757 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,800 really, just when I say backlash, there's a few people that are upset 758 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,559 because it's some of the audio I've released. But what's crazy is like if 759 01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:56,159 it was a percentage nine nine of the feedback I get is amazing, and 760 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,960 you know, ATA boys keep going. You know, stuff like this needs 761 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:01,639 to be out in the public. It needs to be solved. And I 762 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,440 have like one percent of people saying like, hey, what you're doing is 763 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:12,760 really crappy. Oh what sucks is that one percent is like William the Refrigerator 764 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,880 Perry, and that nine nine percent like the punter on the team, Like 765 01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:18,239 you can just level that ninety nine in a second. Man. Yeah. 766 01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:23,960 Yeah. What's part of what's fascinating about that to me is so, um, 767 01:07:24,519 --> 01:07:30,199 do you know the television series and The Heat of the Night love that 768 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,599 show? Yes? Okay, so um, I like the show. I 769 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,880 love the original movie and the film. The series to me never lived up 770 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,039 to the film, but I like the show. You know, I love 771 01:07:40,119 --> 01:07:45,760 Carol O'Connor and whatnot. But um, something though that I always found contributed 772 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,119 to my sense of suspension of disbelief while watching the show is I would always 773 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:54,159 think, there's no way a little place like this fictional town of Sparta, 774 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,199 Mississippi, could possibly have this much crime and these many murders and all of 775 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,199 that. But then what you're what you're telling us about it, Elkhart, 776 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,880 makes me think, well, no, actually it is possible. I guess 777 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,840 maybe maybe it's not that unrealistic, and maybe you're right that there's you know, 778 01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:12,840 plenty of small towns across America that do have a lot of crime and 779 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,680 unsolved murders and all of it. And uh, maybe my perception of In 780 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,319 the Heat of the Night of being as being unrealistic, maybe it's not that, 781 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:24,199 uh you know, maybe maybe I'm wrong, maybe uh maybe it's more 782 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,399 common than I think. Well, I mean, so the Elkhart stuff, 783 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,119 like really that's just for a basic limited audit. I don't expect that anybody 784 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,720 to look into that other than like my hometown people. But yeah, the 785 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,199 shows that I do for missing people and unsolved crimes, that's as as Kansas 786 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:43,760 as a whole. And I've been doing it for three years. And I 787 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,960 again, these are things I wish I didn't have to say publicly. But 788 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:49,239 when I was like in high school before actually, any time before I started 789 01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:54,640 working on in this like in this avenue of like um recording interviews with family 790 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,079 members stuff like that. Anytime before that, the only thing I knew about, 791 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,640 you know, true crime and stuff like that was if you if you 792 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,720 kill somebody or break the law, you were going to get caught. Because 793 01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:11,640 I've seen Iced Tea on TV catch every killer he's looking for. I've seen 794 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,840 all the people on sea. There's a database. They're gonna find your sweat 795 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,960 drops. Some lady with glasses is gonna do to do and you're gonna be 796 01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:20,319 in prison. But I hate to say this live, but honestly, this 797 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,840 is my new opinion. If you're getting away with murder, is easier than 798 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,319 you think. Wow, there is way to like just google unsolved homicides in 799 01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:34,800 your in your in your state, and it'll blow your mind at how many 800 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:41,079 families out there are waiting for any contact from law enforcement and they don't get 801 01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:45,039 any updates. And again this and that. It gets scary because it sounds 802 01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:47,760 like I'm painting a negative picture about law enforcement and I'm really not, because, 803 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,159 um, you know, at the end of the day, anybody that 804 01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:55,479 had that says that, you know, the police are bad, they're hiring 805 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,319 you know, like you can go in there and clean it, like anybody 806 01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:00,640 can go in there and and help out and get that job and stuff. 807 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,640 So like I really blame it on lack of resources, and you know, 808 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,319 and a lot of these you know, small town murder stuff, like you 809 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,800 think about it, like a lot of these cops and this is again not 810 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,600 a slight towards them. Yeah, they don't. Like Susanne Johnson getting kidnapped 811 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,319 and murdered never happened in Kark, Kansas before, and it didn't happen ever. 812 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,680 Again, that was in seventy one, So it wouldn't make a whole 813 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,760 lot of sense to have an officer that specializes in that type of case in 814 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,439 el Kark, Kansas. You know what I mean? Right right? Well, 815 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,600 yeah, it's it's funny too. As you say that, I'm thinking 816 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,640 again, I'm thinking of in the heat of the night and there you have, 817 01:10:35,079 --> 01:10:38,880 you know, Detective Virgil Tips. And it's like, why would a 818 01:10:39,159 --> 01:10:44,600 fictional town like Sparta, Mississippi need a full time detective, not just an 819 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,199 officer, not just a you know, a police chief, but an actual 820 01:10:47,319 --> 01:10:51,239 detective whose job it is to solve these terrible crimes. But but yeah, 821 01:10:51,319 --> 01:10:55,359 but like you say, yeah, your typical small town isn't going to have 822 01:10:55,479 --> 01:11:01,520 the resources you're right to investigate, um uh, something like a like a 823 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,079 kidnapping or something like that, or a murder. And then, uh, 824 01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:09,439 you know, how do they justify if it's something that's so rare, How 825 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:15,520 do they justify making the investment in getting the resources and in hiring the personnel 826 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,279 who specialize in that kind of thing when you know it might not ever happen 827 01:11:19,319 --> 01:11:23,039 again. You know, it might be something that happens in that particular town 828 01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:26,279 wants a century, you know for all we know. So, yeah, 829 01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:30,119 it's it's an interesting perspective. Derek and I I'd never thought about it that 830 01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:34,960 way. I guess my my assumption was always that, uh, well not 831 01:11:35,079 --> 01:11:40,039 always, but in recent years that if you do something like that, like 832 01:11:40,119 --> 01:11:43,479 say you commit a murder, it's it's almost inevitable that you will get caught 833 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,880 because of all the technology and what they can do with DNA evidence and so 834 01:11:47,039 --> 01:11:50,319 forth. That you know, I I kind of have been operating under the 835 01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:55,359 assumption that hardly anyone really gets away with anything and that the law will catch 836 01:11:55,479 --> 01:12:00,359 up with you eventually. But maybe U sounds like I may have been wrong 837 01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:05,159 about that. Well again, like, uh, it's not in all cases, 838 01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:10,720 and and again I think it's a Some would argue it's a race thing, 839 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,199 like which cases. I think it's more of a class thing. I 840 01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:16,399 think like, if you're important, you'll get the resources like I do. 841 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,680 I produce. I'm not a I'm not a host. I produced a podcast 842 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,479 with my company. UM. This guy we call him Norm because he looks 843 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,239 like Norm from Cheers. His actual name is Rob Wilson UM. But one 844 01:12:29,319 --> 01:12:31,079 thing that he had pointed out, what were we just talking about? Sorry 845 01:12:31,119 --> 01:12:34,880 I got lost in the h your your live ninety five point three thing? 846 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,319 What what were you just saying because I had a good point. Oh yeah, 847 01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:41,479 No, I was just saying how my perception had been that if you 848 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,760 commit a crime, you're going to get caught eventually. But now I'm in 849 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,239 listening to you. It's it's changing my perspective on that that I may have 850 01:12:48,319 --> 01:12:54,119 been wrong. Yeahs Again, it's just basically like if if they have the 851 01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:56,880 resources. So one of the things one of the segments we do on that 852 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,119 show is s word that should scare You. It's just a brief segment to 853 01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:05,399 do each week, and last week we did if the amount of untested our 854 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:13,520 word kits in this country should scare you? Like the amount of there's kits 855 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:19,159 sitting on a shelf with data of a known violent perpetrator that we have yet 856 01:13:19,359 --> 01:13:25,119 to muster up the funding, courage or give a crap to test. That 857 01:13:25,399 --> 01:13:28,800 is scary. That I did know, and that is that is very, 858 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:33,640 um, very frustrating. And another thing I think the reason a lot of 859 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:42,000 cases go unsolved is um I think historically people don't really tell the police what 860 01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,840 they want to hear for many reasons. I think one of the biggest reasons 861 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,319 is fear of retaliation. You don't want somebody to hurt you or your family. 862 01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:51,079 You don't know who you're messing with. And then two, um, 863 01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,920 you don't want to be implicated in it. You don't want to have. 864 01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:59,800 So really, what I've learned dealing with my own use these homicides in my 865 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,119 own own hometown is people are willing to talk if nobody is in the room 866 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,800 listening, you know what I mean. Like, and that's what really I 867 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:13,319 think I find saddening about it. Is like I know about Susanne Johnson because 868 01:14:13,359 --> 01:14:16,640 she's almost like a party favor, Like when everybody reaches that point of of 869 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:21,800 you know, intoxication in small towns around two in the morning, somebody brings 870 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,760 up her name and then all these theories start coming out. And the longer 871 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,479 I did research, I ended up, you know, getting in contact with 872 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,239 her mother before she passed. I have an hour and a half unedited call 873 01:14:33,399 --> 01:14:38,960 on my website and she lays it all out. And what I realize is 874 01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:42,960 that you know everybody, you know, everybody gossips and stuff. And so 875 01:14:43,159 --> 01:14:45,720 Susanne Johnson lost her life and she died, but I could name you ten 876 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,960 people who lost their life that day also because of wrongful you know, people 877 01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:56,720 thinking they did it. I mean, it's a really ugly situation when something 878 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,399 like that happens and goes unsolved. Nobody has a nobody has a villain to 879 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,159 put away to to you know, rest their feelings, so everybody becomes leary 880 01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:09,600 of each other. It's a really gross thing, you know. But again, 881 01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:14,279 I was sitting here for two years thinking, oh, my hometown's this 882 01:15:14,399 --> 01:15:17,560 horrible play six unsolved murders, And then I was on the road and I 883 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:23,159 was in an Albuquerque hotel and I googled how many unsolved thomicides in Albuquerque and 884 01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:25,239 it was like, I think six hundred, and I was like, oh 885 01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:27,800 wow, that's a lot for a city. And that was only for the 886 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:32,000 last six months. So wow. Really, yeah, there's a homicide problem 887 01:15:32,119 --> 01:15:35,640 in this country, is what there is. It's not my hometown's not evil. 888 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,199 We have a problem with people killing people. Yes, yes, wow. 889 01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:44,079 How did you get into that, by the way, doing the true 890 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,880 crime podcasts and all of that, Well, really it all started with Susanne 891 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:53,960 Johnson and the other murders, and I was I was I have like, 892 01:15:54,079 --> 01:15:57,720 you know, thirty hours of audio of just people talking to me, and 893 01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,319 I wasn't releasing anything to the public. And then, um, I was 894 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,920 doing my own like podcast kind of swimming in that, uh, you know, 895 01:16:06,079 --> 01:16:09,359 no viewers or you know, I didn't really have a whole lot of 896 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,560 following, and I interviewed, uh, this guy named Ricky Chabruggy and he 897 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,279 he owns the Facebook page Kansas Missing and Unsolved and he has like I think 898 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:24,399 eighty thousand followers, which is more than anybody any any of my other clients. 899 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:30,000 And essentially he hired me to produce a live stream for his Facebook page 900 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,119 and I co hosted. But really, I don't talk a whole lot. 901 01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:35,239 I just pushed the buttons and and you know, do all that stuff. 902 01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:40,359 But I kind of got into it like that, and I don't know it. 903 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:45,520 To me, it's and forgive me if I'm being long winded and not 904 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,479 talking about my music at all, But no, that's this. This is 905 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,319 interesting. We got time, and this is very interesting to me, Derek, 906 01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:59,640 I'm fascinated by this. Okay, so um like this Suzanne Johnson things. 907 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,439 So it's not lost on me that you have people out there that have 908 01:17:04,279 --> 01:17:10,479 made, you know, great financial leaps and bounds while telling stories about true 909 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,279 crime and stuff. And I'm not against that. I do believe that, 910 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,760 you know, you have to get the story out there. And but to 911 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:21,000 me, like I kind of have a personal issue with making any of my 912 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:26,520 true crime endeavors like my form of income, because I feel like if I 913 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,199 mix that that energy, that could be a bad thing. But the longer 914 01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:32,800 I do this, and you know, I get on YouTube and I try 915 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,720 to watch there's a lot of there's a there's an influx of true crime podcasts 916 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:41,119 out there. And one the only the only two that I'll name, and 917 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:44,359 those are the only two, in my opinion, that are forgivable is Last 918 01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:47,279 Podcasts on the Left and my Favorite Murder. They're like comedians, one of 919 01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:49,520 them the Set of Gentlemen, the other one of the Set of Women, 920 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:55,920 and they joke about true crime and they have large audiences, and I'm okay 921 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,840 with that, but I feel like the aftershock of that is every day when 922 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,159 I'm scrolling through Facebook, it's a new, you know, sponsored ad about 923 01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:05,479 two people that are, Hey, we're going to talk about true crime and 924 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,800 we drink wine, and I'm like, what are we doing here? Like 925 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,640 is this like is this like we're all we're getting off on gore and and 926 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,079 we're just talking about you know, these are you know when I do this 927 01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:18,920 show, any of these victims that I talk about, I talk to their 928 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,800 families on the phone. Yeah, I'm not about to go drink wine and 929 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,640 film myself giggling about what it's just to me Like, I feel like it's 930 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,239 a little bit of an overreach, um, and part of it discuss me 931 01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:34,000 man. But at the same time, I do enjoy that these cases are 932 01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:39,319 getting out there. Um, that people you know, do have another opportunity 933 01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:43,720 to say something if they're triggered by a YouTube video or a podcast or something. 934 01:18:44,079 --> 01:18:47,159 Yeah. Yeah, wow, Noah, that's that's interesting. Now does 935 01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:51,239 any of this uh does any of this kind of make it into your music? 936 01:18:53,159 --> 01:18:56,479 Does or or do you keep those things separate in your mind? Because 937 01:18:56,479 --> 01:19:00,479 I would think where obviously you're thinking about all of this, that you're you're 938 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,960 so engaged with this and looking at these cases and discussing these cases with people, 939 01:19:06,199 --> 01:19:11,159 I would think some of that would would influence your your music or maybe 940 01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:15,039 not. Um, I don't think so. I mean, we have one 941 01:19:15,079 --> 01:19:18,960 song called song called in Blue on the new record, Yes, and that 942 01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:27,520 song is about the Clutter murders and the only reason that song is about the 943 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,760 Clutter murders is because I'm from Elkhart. But whenever I got to like college 944 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,760 age, I moved to a little bit of a bigger town called Garden City, 945 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,319 Kansas. It's about an hour and a half from Elkhart, and that 946 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,680 is six miles from Holcomb, Kansas, where the Clutter murders happened. And 947 01:19:43,319 --> 01:19:46,800 I was really into Truman Capode at the time. That's a song that's pretty 948 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,960 old actually, Um, we just now got around to recording it. But 949 01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:55,920 I was really into Truman Capode at the time. And I watched the movie 950 01:19:56,079 --> 01:20:00,800 that Philip Seymour Hoffman did portraying him, God Rest his soul, and to 951 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,239 me, it just made me realize, like, you know, this the 952 01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:10,119 Clutter thing was just like a horrible miscommunication where these two guys thought they were 953 01:20:10,119 --> 01:20:13,800 going to get this huge payout robbing this old farmer. It was bad intel. 954 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,000 They only the guy only had like fifty bucks. Um, you know, 955 01:20:16,119 --> 01:20:23,239 they killed this poor family and then they went through a crazy trial and 956 01:20:23,359 --> 01:20:29,399 then they get killed and like to me, like just to me, I 957 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,960 just it was kind of realized that like kind of what we're talking about here, 958 01:20:32,039 --> 01:20:38,840 like as much as we say we hate bad things happening, what are 959 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,680 we going to listen to on the way to work, Matt if nobody's out 960 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:47,359 there killing people? Right, Well, there's there's plenty of plenty of bad 961 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,600 things to listen to, that's for sure, plenty. But I mean it's 962 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,800 kind of like these people, like these people became stars, you know, 963 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,239 it's like you know, they like people know that they a movie became bad 964 01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:00,479 and it's like this just really bad set you ation where people got killed because 965 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,479 really bad people, you know. And yes, I feel like we do 966 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,680 sensationalize stuff like that a little bit. Oh, absolutely absolutely. U. 967 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:15,359 Yeah, there's there's quite a bit of that. Um yeah, just so 968 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,600 what how um in the band? Uh? Now, by the way, 969 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,479 so does clarify something for me? Is it El Trevino or Trevino? And 970 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,720 the reason I ask is I thought it was El Trevino, but I notice 971 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:30,199 on Spotify it's just Trevino. Yeah. So, um, we're not good 972 01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:33,560 at what we do. We used to go by Trevino. Um, but 973 01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:38,119 actually we have like a website with our first album on it, and the 974 01:21:38,199 --> 01:21:43,119 website the addresses El Trevino and uh so we've kind of gone by both people 975 01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:46,359 call it Trevino. But the reason we went ahead with like changing everything to 976 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,680 El Trevino is because, up until like two weeks ago, m Our Spotify, 977 01:21:51,399 --> 01:21:56,319 the four of the top five songs were not us. We're like, 978 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:01,840 oh, that dude, that happens so much. Yeah, oh that happens 979 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:08,239 a lot. Yeah. And if there's any aspiring songwriters out there, please 980 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,359 please before you name your band, search Spotify and see if your cool band 981 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,800 name is not being used already. Yes. Absolutely. Where does the name 982 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,439 come from? By the way, why is it called that? Um? 983 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:28,600 So people know me as Derek Ralford, I was actually born Derek Trevino. 984 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,199 I'm half I'm half Mexican. I'm one of those I'm one of those people 985 01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:38,399 of color that I have to if I'm around other people, like other family 986 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,640 members, I have to like pull out paperwork to prove I'm Hispanic. But 987 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,319 like my dad is Mexican, and so I was born Derek Trevino and kind 988 01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:50,920 of dark. But my grandma had fifteen kids and like eleven of them just 989 01:22:51,239 --> 01:22:54,680 you know, really they didn't have a father. You know, like eleven 990 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:59,760 of them really went off on a rough path and without getting too far into 991 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,680 it. When I was in the seventh grade, an uncle of mine had 992 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:08,279 landed himself on TV. You know, great thing for the family, except 993 01:23:08,319 --> 01:23:12,600 it was America's Most Wanted, which was kind of a bad vibe. And 994 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,000 uh, you know it's it's really um my stepdad, David Relaford. Like 995 01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:20,720 I'll say this, Me and the guy did not get along for the first 996 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,720 eighteen years in my life. He's one of my best friends, and I 997 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,520 went and hung out with him all day yesterday. He's one of my best 998 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,119 friends now. And looking back, he was trying to, you know, 999 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:32,279 make sure I was, you know, going to be a good person. 1000 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:38,600 But you know, I one thing is as much as I didn't understand we 1001 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:43,479 couldn't communicate. I always understood that he worked his butt off every day. 1002 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,520 He took care of two kids that weren't his. Whenever he introduced us or 1003 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,640 talked about his family at work, we weren't step kids, we were his 1004 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:54,479 kids, you know. So in the seventh grade I kind of took him 1005 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,840 up on his offer to adopt me, and I became Derek Relafford. And 1006 01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,319 then I used to lie when I told this story. I changed the person 1007 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:06,199 telling the story to my grandma because she's a sweet lady. But in reality, 1008 01:24:06,319 --> 01:24:12,159 one of my uncles, probably for crappy reasons, because he wanted he 1009 01:24:12,319 --> 01:24:15,520 was a musician. He was intoxicated one night and I was like fourteen, 1010 01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:19,199 and he said, if you ever do anything musically, change the name back 1011 01:24:19,239 --> 01:24:24,760 to Trevino. And uh, with his grade of a man as David Releford 1012 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,279 is, I could never do that. So we decided just to call the 1013 01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:32,199 band Trevino. Oh okay, oh wow, well that's cool. I'm glad. 1014 01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:35,479 I'm glad there's a story behind it, because sometimes I'll ask somebody, 1015 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,199 Hey, where's the name come from, and they're like, oh, we 1016 01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:44,039 just sort of sounded cool. I saw a tombstone in Texas. That's good. 1017 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,960 Well that's that. I don't know. That's not bad actually for a 1018 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:53,479 for a metal band. Er um And so what's the long term trajectory? 1019 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:57,920 I mean, do you guys have plans to um uh to tour or you 1020 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,560 know, you've got the you've got the show in Elkhart you were talking about, 1021 01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:04,319 But are you guys actively playing out or what's um what's happening currently? 1022 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:10,560 So like that's that's kind of like one of the main reasons I wanted to 1023 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:17,119 talk to people, um because I I hate where my muse is. I'm 1024 01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:23,159 su'mna pre apologize from where I got my life changing mus But Matt, you 1025 01:25:23,279 --> 01:25:26,479 probably have it. But have you ever seen the George straight mute movie Pure 1026 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,319 Country. I've always been aware of it, and I remember when I worked 1027 01:25:30,359 --> 01:25:32,760 in a music store, I would always see it in the soundtrack section. 1028 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:41,319 Uh, and so I can actually clearly imagine the cover um of with George 1029 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,800 the one picture of George Strait that I've ever seen where he actually has facial 1030 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,760 hair on the cover of the soundtrack to Pure Country. But but no, 1031 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:53,640 I've never actually watched the film. Okay, well it's it's a good film 1032 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,880 for a bad film, you know what I mean. I've always I've always 1033 01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,760 heard it's actually quite good what I kind of from it, and I had 1034 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,800 watched it recently, like the last couple of years, last year or two. 1035 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:10,199 It's just essentially about this country star that realizes that there's so much smoke 1036 01:26:10,399 --> 01:26:15,119 and bangs and fireworks on stage, and and so he decides to do a 1037 01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:18,399 test and he doesn't sing an entire verse, and his band, the fans 1038 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,680 nobody notices, So he kind of goes through this like you know thing where 1039 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,720 he's like, what are we doing here? Like is this like a is 1040 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,520 this a circus? And it gets so to the bad to he leaves and 1041 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,680 they end up throwing like another guy there and playing a track, and the 1042 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:36,199 fans are so sold on all those smoke and mirrors that they don't even realize 1043 01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:40,039 that they're the guy they paid all this money. He's not even on stage, 1044 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,640 and it's just a really long winded story about basically his character realizes, 1045 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,760 like, you know what, man, like, I started playing music because 1046 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:54,159 I thought it was fun and I thought maybe it would get me at some 1047 01:26:54,319 --> 01:26:58,279 chicks, like that's why I started playing music. And I feel like a 1048 01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:01,760 lot of artists once you get mixed into this whole, like you know, 1049 01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:06,680 music industry, which really doesn't exist like it used to. There is a 1050 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,119 music industry, but like once you like, I don't know, it's I 1051 01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:15,439 feel like it perverts your art when you try to make it your your your 1052 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,079 source of income, because I think once you know, if if you're trying 1053 01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:21,359 to earn money, you should try to earn as much money as possible, 1054 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,000 and in order to earn more money. You kind of have to sacrifice what 1055 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,119 you're doing. And I just think it's a breeding ground for just one bad 1056 01:27:30,319 --> 01:27:33,520 music and two just not having fun anymore. Like and I've seen I have 1057 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:38,520 friends that did really well, really well, they were on MTV stuff like 1058 01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,159 that. I have friends that didn't do as well but had more fun, 1059 01:27:41,239 --> 01:27:44,439 you know what I'm saying. Like, Yeah, us recording this music and 1060 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,800 our our whole trajectory is First of all, none of us live in the 1061 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,880 same state except for me and my brother, Me and Hill and Phoenix were 1062 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:56,079 all scattered. That's why we home record YEA and two. Right now. 1063 01:27:56,199 --> 01:28:00,239 We play two three gigs a year, which involves we all fly to a 1064 01:28:00,359 --> 01:28:03,039 city, we rent equipment, and we play shows. Um. But really, 1065 01:28:03,079 --> 01:28:08,199 as far as like, we don't really we're just having fun, man, 1066 01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:12,960 Like that was so fun to record an album. And then one thing 1067 01:28:13,039 --> 01:28:15,199 I did want to talk about was the mixing and mastering. I don't think 1068 01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:19,840 people realize how how scary of a step that is to take all your work 1069 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,760 and hand it to a stranger. Oh yeah, yeah, we found this 1070 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,600 and I'm gonna call him a kid. I think he's like twenty one. 1071 01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:32,720 We found this kid. Um on fiver after doing tons of digging, and 1072 01:28:33,079 --> 01:28:36,359 uh we hired him. He banged it. He did a great job. 1073 01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:42,279 And then like three days after he sent us the finals, he had entered 1074 01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:46,119 some some huge like multi like a YouTuber's page that had millions of followers. 1075 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:51,640 He entered a blind contest and won it, and he beat the producers of 1076 01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:57,479 Abbey Road. Wow. So and the guy and the YouTubers like, whoever 1077 01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,680 this guy is, his price is just quadrupled we got I'm just gonna say 1078 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,680 it because he doesn't charge it anymore. The lowest guy we found was two 1079 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,319 hundred dollars a song to mix him master. This kid from the UK did 1080 01:29:09,359 --> 01:29:12,640 it for fifty dollars. Wow, we send him more money, We send 1081 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,119 him more more. We're like, no, you don't understand how this works. 1082 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,880 Yeah, really lucky on fiber. Yeah, oh that's awesome. Well, 1083 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:24,920 very cool and it all it all sounds fantastic and uh no, that's 1084 01:29:25,079 --> 01:29:29,479 that's great. Um So, where Derek, where should people go online to 1085 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,520 keep up with the music and everything that you're doing. Um, probably the 1086 01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,560 best place is just um probably Facebook. It's like that's the thing we have. 1087 01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:42,119 We're the worst at any of that kind of stuff. I do have 1088 01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:44,640 a website, but it's not done, so I don't want to yeah that, 1089 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,680 but yeah, like Facebook, um, Facebook. But mainly we we're 1090 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,600 just gonna we're going to start releasing more music into the world via like you 1091 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,239 know, all the streaming sites and stuff. What we're working on next is 1092 01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:00,119 uh, some cover songs. Um, you know, just getting back into 1093 01:30:00,199 --> 01:30:03,760 the why did we start doing this? Because it's fun and one of the 1094 01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,439 fun things is, you know, just playing other people's music and doing your 1095 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:10,560 spin on it. By the way, there's uh, I don't think the 1096 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,199 mics really pick it up, so you probably couldn't hear it. But there 1097 01:30:13,279 --> 01:30:16,479 was a bunch of sirens just now that went down past elm Street, and 1098 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,279 I so wish that had happened while we were talking about your true crime stuff. 1099 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:24,680 That would have been perfect. But it happened. It happens once a 1100 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,479 show, like every day, it happens at some point during my show, 1101 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,159 there's a bunch of sirens. But yeah, yeah, it can be hard 1102 01:30:30,199 --> 01:30:33,239 to you know, social media and everything, it can be hard to keep 1103 01:30:33,319 --> 01:30:36,560 up with all of that. But Jenny has been sharing links too in the 1104 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,239 Facebook live chat, and I see that you put your link tree in there, 1105 01:30:40,319 --> 01:30:45,359 so that's great. And do you have any plans for you know, 1106 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,239 you mentioned covers. What about original music? I mean, are you guys 1107 01:30:48,279 --> 01:30:51,439 always are you and your brother are you always writing and coming up with ideas 1108 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:58,479 or kind of like this latest album was different because like the first album, 1109 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,399 I think I wrote all the songs and my brother wrote one, and then 1110 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:08,319 on this new album, um, my brother wrote two and then our guitar 1111 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,800 player from Denver he wrote two and any other. But it's really, um, 1112 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,560 I don't know. It's kind of like the game Telephone, like with 1113 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,760 home recording and stuff like how we how we operate if it's a song that 1114 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:25,199 I quote unquote wrote, Like I'll go to my brother's home studio and I'll 1115 01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:29,920 lay down a guitar track for like my idea, and then I leave and 1116 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,560 then as soon as my car starts, he deletes what I did and then 1117 01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:39,199 records it better, right, and then uh he basically messes with it for 1118 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,960 three weeks and yeah, just between like you know, it's it's kind of 1119 01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:45,920 fun. Um when you're when you're in a dropbox band, you when you 1120 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,279 wake up and you start your day to go to work and listen to music. 1121 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:55,479 Typically usually have like four or five additions to the idea you started a 1122 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,640 week ago to like listen in too and and you know, so it's it's 1123 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,039 really to me, it's the only way I could even do, like if 1124 01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:06,239 if if we had to do this hanging out together in a room, pass 1125 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:14,199 hard, pass No, I understand, I understand. Well, it's it's 1126 01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,079 great stuff, Derek. So uh so we're gonna as soon as we will 1127 01:32:17,079 --> 01:32:19,960 conclude our conversation in a moment. You've been very generous with your time. 1128 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,359 I appreciate it, and we're gonna We're gonna play another track. But also, 1129 01:32:24,399 --> 01:32:27,239 do you want to plug the podcasts again, because you know, we 1130 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,840 talked about that stuff a lot, and I'm sure there's people who want to 1131 01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,159 check out what you're doing there. Yeah, if you want to have a 1132 01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:38,199 good time, UM, just go to like any podcast platform and just look 1133 01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:43,720 for the Elkhart tapes. Um, there's I believe, like fifty some episodes, 1134 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:47,720 the first forty five or really and it's so cool, like just it's 1135 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:53,079 this tiny little patch of earth in the middle of nowhere and I was able 1136 01:32:53,119 --> 01:32:58,760 to find forty five amazing stories just like Cardache, Triumph, great stories of 1137 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,039 people that just at one point lived in this town. And then the last 1138 01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:06,239 five episodes, uh is a grab bag of people snitching on each other. 1139 01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:12,680 So yeah, give it a shot, and give it a shot. Absolutely. 1140 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,960 What's it called again? The elk cart tape? So it's e l 1141 01:33:15,119 --> 01:33:19,760 K h A RT Okay good, I'm glad. I'm glad you spelled it 1142 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:24,600 because people might not know to put that h in there, so very cool. 1143 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,079 Uh all right, well, Derek, listen, I'm gonna let you 1144 01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:30,680 pick. Uh. Well, we'll let you go in a moment, and 1145 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,000 then I'm gonna go to Uh, I'm gonna go to another one of your 1146 01:33:32,039 --> 01:33:36,359 songs, but what would you like us to play? My favorite song is 1147 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:41,319 one that I didn't write at all. Yeah, it's a it's a song 1148 01:33:41,399 --> 01:33:46,720 called tell Me, and it's a I told people I wasn't gonna tell him 1149 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:51,119 what my lyrics were about because a buddy of mine asked me about one of 1150 01:33:51,199 --> 01:33:54,439 my songs. He's like, is your song about this? And then I 1151 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,600 told him it was really about and he was just like that sucks. So 1152 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,560 yeah, I've decided, but this song it's not my song, So I 1153 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,239 feel at Liberty. But it's just basically it's a song about you know, 1154 01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:10,359 and it's something you can probably maybe appreciate. I don't know you super well, 1155 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,239 but just kind of like that conflict with uh, you know, growing 1156 01:34:14,359 --> 01:34:17,840 up and and the people who care about you, um, where your heart 1157 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,439 is drawing you towards art, but your loved ones are like that's nice, 1158 01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:26,119 but you're gonna die broke. Um you know. Yeah. It's just that 1159 01:34:26,319 --> 01:34:30,439 kind of battle of of inner turmoil of you know, picking the safe route 1160 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,479 or you know, being yourself and you know, eating a lot of ramen 1161 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,720 and doing what you want to do, you know. So yeah, and 1162 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,520 the guy that wrote it's a doctor, so you can decide what he did. 1163 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,840 Interesting, yeah, I think, but I think definitely a relatable concept 1164 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:46,840 for a lot of people. So great, Yeah, well we'll play that 1165 01:34:47,199 --> 01:34:51,760 awesome awesome, all right, Derek Lafford. And should I be saying Trevino 1166 01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:56,319 or El Trevino for the band name? Either way? I think Spotify, 1167 01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:59,399 I think you can that they'll only show you Trevino all the other ones. 1168 01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,399 That says L Trevino. Yes, um, just look for the offensive photo. 1169 01:35:04,399 --> 01:35:08,840 There you go, There you go, all right, Derek again, 1170 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,880 thank you so much for joining us today. I loved it went in a 1171 01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,680 direction I wasn't expecting. But I'm glad. I'm glad that it did. 1172 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,680 That was fascinating. But thank you so much, my friend, and we 1173 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,960 will have to do this again soon. I really, I really enjoyed this, 1174 01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:23,880 so thank you so much. I love you, buddy. Take it 1175 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,199 easy, all right, Derek, thank you? Take care all right, 1176 01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:32,119 very good. So we're gonna close with this um track. Oh there we 1177 01:35:32,199 --> 01:35:38,479 go. We're gonna close with this track. Tell me we're gonna close the 1178 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,399 segment. We're not We're not quite down the show. But then well we'll 1179 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:44,920 come back and we'll finish up after this. But this is tell me from 1180 01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:49,039 Trevino or El Trevino here on Matt Connerton only check this out. I'll love 1181 01:35:49,079 --> 01:36:08,880 these guys. I'll love their sound. This is good stuff. Your a 1182 01:36:09,039 --> 01:36:15,960 piction. Didn't not ask about all those chances I classed the barn on the 1183 01:36:15,119 --> 01:36:23,119 where my luck was. I couldn't not see you a dying. I want 1184 01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:33,039 that makes me dream. Dating to see that shared makes something that dis all 1185 01:36:33,239 --> 01:36:46,920 like I'm running bone, not changing anything. I'm living for the dream he 1186 01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:56,199 set all the mountain nothing. I'm not scared, told myself phone own away 1187 01:36:57,319 --> 01:37:28,640 anymore at this one O me, I bill, my dear, and you 1188 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:34,760 were patient and didn't ask. I knew how to reactive found out if you 1189 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:40,600 were pastien and didn't ask, I know why be found out? Yeah? 1190 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:59,600 You found out a fine and I have fine? Fine? Whats this? 1191 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:09,960 You who gone? Leaves you? Your mind? Seeks me back to when 1192 01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:16,880 it all may sense to clean myself anger, No, I can go there 1193 01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:41,680 nothing left me that said left you wait to lady, to mother, to 1194 01:38:49,600 --> 01:39:24,159 love. Oh my god, I love it. That is Tell me the 1195 01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:29,840 band is uh while they're Trevino on Spotify, El Trevino elsewhere. But thank 1196 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,800 you again to our friend Derek Ralford for joining us today and Ni Jenny and 1197 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:39,399 I've known Derek uh for a while online of course, but that's um. 1198 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,880 That's the first time I've ever had an extended conversation with him on the show, 1199 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,159 and I really enjoyed that. Um. That was um. We not 1200 01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:51,000 only talked about the music, but uh some of his other things as well. 1201 01:39:51,079 --> 01:39:55,479 That just really interesting. Uh. I'm gonna have to check out that 1202 01:39:56,399 --> 01:40:00,720 podcast about El cart Um. But very good, very good. So thank 1203 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,119 you again. By the way, we'll play one more track from that band 1204 01:40:02,319 --> 01:40:04,399 at the end of the show in just a couple of minutes. And we're 1205 01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:08,039 already almost at the end, but if you'd like to get in with a 1206 01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:13,399 very quick call to put a tag on the show, you can six three 1207 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,960 two five six Z seven is a studio line. Six zo three two five 1208 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,960 oh six Z seven. Tomorrow on the show in the second hour, we 1209 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:24,800 have a musical guest in studio, hip hop artist Cody Pope. We'll be 1210 01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,319 joining us, and I think he's gonna have at least one other at least 1211 01:40:28,359 --> 01:40:30,680 one other artists with him as well. But that will be tomorrow on the 1212 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:35,039 second hour. And I've interviewed Cody Pope, I think a couple of times, 1213 01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:40,159 or maybe a few times over the years, but on another show that 1214 01:40:40,239 --> 01:40:42,319 I do. But that'll be the first time on this show that we've had 1215 01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:45,319 him in studio with us, and that'll be really cool. I'm looking forward 1216 01:40:45,359 --> 01:40:47,680 to that tomorrow. So we've got a busy week out of us here on 1217 01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:54,159 the program, and we'll say hello to everybody in the Facebook live chat quickly 1218 01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:58,439 while everybody we didn't already say hello too. We saw some new folks enter 1219 01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:03,319 the studio, New Force of the Spark. Now I've seen New Affirm of 1220 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:08,239 the Spark in the Facebook live chat. This is New Force of the Spark, 1221 01:41:08,319 --> 01:41:13,199 whom I strongly suspect is from Greensboro, North Carolina. They say hello 1222 01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:17,720 hashtag Matt. We said, we are now called of ourselves New Force of 1223 01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,359 the Spark. Oh I get it. We are now called so it used 1224 01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:25,359 to be New Affirm of the Spark, and they are now called New Force 1225 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:30,800 of the Spark, which makes me wonder was that a suggestion made by their 1226 01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:34,920 their manager and producer, Texas Mike. If you're not aware of our friend 1227 01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:40,039 Texas Mike, who appears on the show occasionally, uh and on. He 1228 01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:44,720 also appears on the Morning Show and has been on Retrospectrum Radio with policy he 1229 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,319 got roped in or I'm sorry, he got invited to be the manager and 1230 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:54,359 producer of Apparently they are now called New Force of the Spark in Greensboro, 1231 01:41:54,479 --> 01:42:00,359 North Carolina. New Force says cool song. We said, we say, 1232 01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,279 how's it going? Also, our friend Rocky Hubert joins us in the Facebook 1233 01:42:04,359 --> 01:42:08,800 live chat and says, how's everyone doing? Hello Rocky, New Force of 1234 01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:13,279 the Spark says, We say, Hi hashtag Rocky h We said, how 1235 01:42:13,359 --> 01:42:17,439 are you doing? From new Force of the Spark. We will be performing 1236 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:24,439 for the Center City Park, downtown Greensboro, North Carolina, is karaoke on 1237 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:29,600 June fourth, twenty twenty three, as we could at four to seven pm. 1238 01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,279 Very nice, Well, congratulations on that, did Texas mic Bookie that 1239 01:42:33,399 --> 01:42:39,399 gig. Rocky says, I say to you from us and me the Spark 1240 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:44,079 of the Force. That's new. We say, Hi, see Rocky as 1241 01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:53,520 it sounds like he's perhaps been to Greensboro, he knows the lingo. Oh 1242 01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:58,199 boy, Anyway, it goes on and on. My dad is in the 1243 01:42:58,399 --> 01:43:04,399 Facebook live chat. Hello Martin Connerton. Let's see a new force, says 1244 01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:09,720 We say, archer flight. They watching the Morning Show with Peter White on 1245 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:15,239 Facebook Live. We said, and we have a call. Hi, welcome 1246 01:43:15,239 --> 01:43:23,279 to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's this? Oh? All right, well that 1247 01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:27,600 was a simulating dialogue. All right we are Did I miss anybody in the 1248 01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,880 chat? Now? All right, we're about out of time. I do 1249 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:34,680 want to close the show with one more track from Trevino. Great song. 1250 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,920 This is Alreadie Lang. This is one that Derek had sent to us a 1251 01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,680 while ago, and I think we had played on the show. Oh there's 1252 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,000 a new name in the chart room. Hello to Davey Schumard or Schumard. 1253 01:43:45,239 --> 01:43:49,119 So we got to go. So we're gonna play one more song and to 1254 01:43:49,199 --> 01:43:53,000 close out. If you miss any part of today's show, it will be 1255 01:43:53,079 --> 01:43:57,279 up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot org and in my website 1256 01:43:57,359 --> 01:44:00,680 Matt Connerton dot com. Don't forget tomorrow on the show. On the second 1257 01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:03,119 hour, we have Cody Pope for our musical guest. Really looking forward to 1258 01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:09,199 that very talented hip hop artist. And we've had some great discussions in the 1259 01:44:09,239 --> 01:44:13,119 past. Oh, Davey is the drummer for El Trevino. Well, hello, 1260 01:44:13,239 --> 01:44:15,960 sir, I'm a big fan of your band. There you go. 1261 01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:18,920 I'm about to play another one of your songs, all right, So, 1262 01:44:19,359 --> 01:44:23,880 so lots of great stuff coming up. Thank you all again for joining me 1263 01:44:24,039 --> 01:44:27,960 today on the program, and thank you, of course to Derek Ralford for 1264 01:44:28,079 --> 01:44:30,600 joining us for a great discussion as well. And I'm gonna leave you with 1265 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:35,800 this. This is a song called Artie Lange from El Trevino. To close 1266 01:44:35,840 --> 01:45:15,960 out today's Matt Connerton unleashed right here on whoint three FM. We grow, 1267 01:45:16,119 --> 01:45:23,840 we side. As we speak the heartless time, my heart is raised, 1268 01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:29,600 and as we speak to sweat rules or doubt much. You're not the kind 1269 01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:38,159 of sending You're the kind of like to see when it's slow, and I 1270 01:45:38,319 --> 01:45:45,560 feel about slow. Time can Go is the song that we sank so few 1271 01:45:46,439 --> 01:46:00,119 so everyone letter is so quite as now You're time and physical that my have 1272 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:10,000 on the rain where your life got diff got yourself together. You don't be 1273 01:46:10,279 --> 01:46:42,000 fall love. He goes become and he and they go im this suside for 1274 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:44,199 weekend of f