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contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is
Saturday, December ninth, twenty twenty three, and Jenny is here with us
as well at the news desk, present accounted for yes and joining us on
the couch. We've got our a great a musical guest today. Kenny Troon
is here. Hello. Hey, it's great to be here, guys,
Thanks for having me. Yes, Yes, we've been playing some of your
studio tracks. We opened with, We opened with, Oh I forget the
name of the song. Now, don't have a say in anything? Yes,
yes, don't have a say in anything. Great great song. And
then we played old News at the top of the hour at the ten o'clock
hour. And we've got a couple other things that you sent me that we
can play. But I'm also dying to hear you live and if you want
to dive and play something for us, and then we'll come back and uh
and we'll Yeah, dying to hear you play something. Yeah, I'm dying
to play some raw afternoon music right now before afternoon. I'm still getting ready
in the day. Didn't even have my coffee yet, So this is going
to be a good one. Is your voice deeper? And this was a
discussion on the show earlier, Is your voice deeper in the morning? Yeah?
It takes me to like gigs after four or my prime times, right
right right, But you might get some raw goodness right now, because sometimes
it's good to get that that early morning voice. Absolutely. Yeah, you
want me to play some right now for you guys, Yeah, go for
it. Yeah, it's called the Cattle, all right, get me right,
I don't know it's way is our boy? Don't I say? If
I al haven't blinked none bove then twice soul listen, but you'll take out
the gattle that doubt of it. Now, I'll love them to the gallows,
the gallows. Come on, let's me am me good knight, cut
your steak green, good knife. See don't oh that dout of home.
Oh get me, oh this thing. I can't control my thoughts. I
just say, if it's really me, when I don't feel thing, really
really red, really Sunday by the the apple, they say, they say,
Then you walk me through the gardens, the god in the garden,
that's me sunthing, and bring your body in some friction because I'm o hi
hi hi loaded out, No, hi hi hi loaded out again Hi hi
hi hi yi. Oh oh oh very nice, very I love that.
I love that nice. If you're just joining us, we have Kenny Troon
live in studio here on the program, and if you have any questions or
feedback or anything at all, uh six o three two five oh six oh
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But the best thing to do so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet
tones is give us a call at six O three two five oh six o
seven. Jeff W call Cole if I'm saying that correctly, says, I
get it. Bud Jeffy someone you know obviously, Yeah, I love him.
That's my boy, Jeff Run Like Thieves in the chat room says yeah.
Kenny Troon ooh okay, you like that? Yeah, yeah, you
were telling us, uh, if you want to say this again on here
too, This was interesting. How you know how you met Greg? Yeah,
from from Run Like Thieves, Greg Santini, the running drummer. Yes
we uh. I'm from Long Island, New York. Shout out Long Island,
New York. H So you're you're a real New Yorker. I'm a
real New Yorker. I just went to TD Garden last night to see the
Knicks lose to Boston. Yeah, so I've seen the Knicks come to Boston
and twice two losses in a row. But we'll keep going on that.
But Greg, when I move up here, I found this app it's like
Tinder for musicians. It's called Vamper, and I swiped right on Greg.
He swiped right on me, and we matched and it was great. We
didn't go to dinner, but we played. He drove out to Troy,
New York actually on my birthday of last year, and we played a show,
and then after we played he met my band members. He hadn't met
them before the show. He met them after yea, which is great.
But we had a great time. And Greg's the man Greg. Greg fills
in for whenever I play shows up here because most of my band members are
in New York. Yeah, so like when I do stuff up here,
Greg's my go to guy. He's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's been
a consistent topic on the show about how drummers always play with the different people
because drummers are in such high demand, Like, oh yeah, most of
the drummers I meet, they're in like ten different bands. Oh yeah.
And plus there's like so many singer songwriters who need a drummer right right,
like and bass players too. Basically you need bass players. Those are hard
to come by to. Oh, yeah, sometimes I play bass, And
when I was, yeah, I don't, I don't play anymore. But
when I was out in playing in bands, I was in like four bands
at one point at one time. Yeah, but when you say you don't
play anymore, what does that mean? Like, yeah, I'm just I'm
just still not doing I still could. Yeah, I'm just I'm not active.
And you didn't hit your head and was like, I don't remember how
to play this thing. That would be horrible, that would be no.
No, But although I haven't, I haven't picked up a bass in a
long time. But but yeah, but drummer. My theory about drummers is
when you, you know, if you want to be a drummer, when
you go to have that conversation with your parents about, yeah, I want
to play anstrument, but I don't want to play the drums. Yeah,
you know, either the drums or or the tuba is the other one that
they're probably going to try to talk you out of. Yeah, unless they've
got a good soundproof room right right, dungeon or basement to throw you down
the exactly exactly. Hey, it's better to hear, than making loud noise,
than doing other bad stuff, you know what I mean. So at
least you know what they're doing. You know now what brought you, what
brought you to this area, because you're from Long Island. How long have
you been here? My parents have lived up here since maybe two thousand and
nine or ten, and I stayed in New York. That I didn't go
with them, but I would always visit New Hampshire. I loved it up
here, and it got to a point where nothing was really happening for me
in New York. It was very stressful at very expensive. Yeah, jobs
weren't good, and I don't know. I come up here. I got
a job with Live Nation immediately being a stage hand and being around the music
industry still and actually work also at the SNHU Arena shout out to the bull
Crow Boys. So I'm still in involved with music now and it lets me
do my music as well. On top of that, it's just been great.
I met the love of my life up here. Excellent. Yeah,
so that that's pretty great. And uh, I know, everything's just been
good since I moved up here, and I'm living free and I'm not dead
yet. Yes, so something's gone right. I'm swiping right, swiping right,
matchic on Tinder. I guess what other apps we got out there I
can use. Well, speaking of Greg, I think he's on the line.
Greg. Is that great? Did Greg call it right now? Yeah?
This is great? Hello, gentlemen, how are you hello? We
were we were just talking about you, Hi, Greg? Well, I
had to call him in because Kenny's my boy. He is awesome. So
that's awesome. It's such a fantastic job just now. It was really great,
Kenny, dude. Thanks Greg. We got a jam soon again,
Bob. Absolutely, absolutely. But I just want to give a shout out
to you, Kenny, and also to Long Island, New York. Where
were we both hail from? Kenny and I were also born in the same
hospital, same hospital. Oh no kidding. I'm glad you brought that up
because I was like, we're from the same with the same hospital. Yeah,
it gets deeper to get even deeper. Well, very close, very
cool. Yeah, So I just want to say I just want to say
hello and shout out, and also I just wanted to to give you guys
a little heads up for our show. We're actually doing a contest. You
know Dan is the singer and Run Like Thieves. He is sponsored by Breed
Love Guitar and we're giving away a guitar and I'm putting it out all over
social media on our YouTube channel, and basically what we're doing is asking people
to cover acoustically one of our songs and post it and then whoever we think
is the coolest and the best, we'll get a guitar. Wow, and
we're going to announce the winner at our show January seventh, which I know
you guys, Jen and Matt are going to go to and hopefully Kenny's going
to go to too. Well, I'm gonna win that guitar. Bro,
I'm just letting you know. Ye, you're totally eligible to do it.
I was about to play, am I even eligible for anyone's eligible, even
Jenny. I think Jenny could do it too. I know. No,
that's a great that's a great idea though. That's a great concept. I
like that a lot. That's a cool, cool idea there. Yeah,
yeah, that's gonna be cool to get anyway, I just wanted to say
thanks guys, and thanks again for having us on the other week and Kenny
rock it out, Buddy, thanks Bob, thanks for calling in. All
right, Greg, and we will see you on January seventh, Yes,
absolutely, six o'clock. All right, we'll be there, looking forward to
it, all right, buddy thinks, all right, you got it,
Bye bye, all right. The Great Greg Santini, also known as the
running drummery from the man likes to run from run like thieves. Yeah.
I mean if you're a drummer, you gotta kind of have that endurance anyway.
Yeah. True, you're flailing and the whole hour set or whatever long
and plays. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, the most physical instrument because
you're using all your limbs. And I'm always impressed when I see singing drummers,
which you don't see a lot, at least not on lead votes.
See a lot of that. But I love a good singing drummer. I
think a good example of a singing drummer turned lead singer and turned their back
on drums is the guy from three Doors Down. Did you know that he
drums on the first record? Yeah, I didn't. I just assumed he
still was. I forget his name. I think it's Brad Arnold, Okay,
I think so, But he was the drummer. But then when they
blew up, he was like, I don't play drums anymore. I'm this
singer. Oh I didn't know that. I always assumed he was still playing
drums. Yeah. No, he wants to be out front. Yeah.
I actually did him stage hand for their gig at Meadowbrook and he was,
yeah, he's he's just the front guy now. He's been the front guy
for a while. He abandoned that a while ago. Oh okay, but
yeah with the little Madonna mike. Yeah, I don't know why I called
the Madonna mike, but you know, but yeah, I want to see
some drummers that sing, so greg, start your start singingmore? All right,
if you're still listening. Even in bands that do have singing drummers,
a lot of the time, it's only like part like some songs they might
sing on like they'll split the lead singer. Yeah, yeah, yah,
yeah yeah. But yeah, I'm trying to think of a band where see
I thought three Doors Down, I didn't realize he had a band in the
drums. I'm trying to think of a band where they have a singing drummer
who sings everything was also the lead singer. Okay everything, do you know
Anderson. No, he's a great artist who him and the Free Nationals.
He drums, raps, sings, He's incredible. Oh really yeah, he's
like if you see his Tiny Death concert. Yeah, he's just like in
the middle, like cutting it up, playing the drums flawlessly and just effortlessly.
Oh wow, he's really good. And if you want to go into
like heavier drummers that do the Madonna mic seven dust, do you remember that
band Morgan would do the like and had the Madonna mic go on? Yeah?
Yeah, I like that. I can't think of anyone else off the
top of my head. But yeah, they're out there, and if you're
out there, hit up Matt, hit up me. Let's talk about it.
Call us in this bands Like, oh yeah, but was he another
one that just so I need to be sort of sort of because if you
see the Eagles live, he'll play drums on some things, but then he'll
come up front for others or and somebody else jumps band. But he but
but he's another one who didn't sing on everything, right Yeah, yeah,
like I can't I can't think of an example where the drummer is the leads
full time thing. Yeah, yeah, like in Genesis Phil Collins, he
would you know, he would come up front, you know, he he'd
sing, he'd play drums on a few things, but come up front,
you know. And then he was Genesis one. Uh, Gabes left.
Yeah, and I love Peter Gabriel. He's like one of my favorites.
Yeah. You, by the way, So I didn't know this about you
until somebody mentioned it in the chat room that you play multiple instruments, right,
Yeah, I play drums, bass, guitar, and piano. Wow
sing a rap? I may be. I'm a producer. Yeah, I
produce and engineer and mix all my records. Oh yeah, oh wow.
I went to audio school in two thousand and four in New York City.
Learned everything I need to learn, and uh, just so no one can
tell me what to like what you do. Like, I think I grew
up in a in an era where I was just like a singer in a
band for a while, people trying to tell me what to do, how
to dress. Signing a label with Capitol Records when I'm twenty one and just
dealing with all the behind the scenes stuff like people telling you, oh,
you got to do this, you got to write songs like this you gotta
do. It's like I learned everything myself just so I could make my own
world, make my own universe, because I don't want to play in your
world, dude, Like what I mean, Like yeah, and I hone
my craft for about over twenty years now, so like I love it.
And we're fortunate to live in a time where you can really do that,
you know, like now it's even better for a situation like that, I
own all my stuff. No one owns anything that's excellent. Yeah, I
don't like because that's the thing with these like these deals. When you sign
these deals, they're they're covering your recording costs so all this stuff, and
I'm like taking a huge chunk of that away where it's just like you want
to just pay for marketing or so I don't know, right, but even
then, like Facebook ads these days, Instagram ads, I have like thirteen
hundred followers, but my story only gets like seventy people seeing it. Yeah,
you know what I mean. They want you to pay money, right
right, It's this whole thing where it's like the Wow Wild West where you
got to figure out like new ways to do things. I kind of like
it Yeah, Yeah, it's fresh and absolutely it's really cool. Evan Hilsinger
chat Room says Kenny Troon is the greatest Evan. Evan's my longest running band
member, best friend from high school. We were in a man together,
Oh wow, Yeah, where he played guitar, I was singing. And
then now he's my bass player and I play guitar and it's kind of dope.
Now is he back in New York or he's in New York he's listening
to New York right now, or he could it's the weekend. He could
be at his house in the Poconos. So but but the so the how
often do you play with the band? Because logistically it must be a little
bit of a challenge. Uh, it is. But we're at a point
where we like know each other very well. Like if we get like a
little run like like if I travel to them and we and we're able to
get a little run through for an hour or two before a show, that's
good. Sometimes we don't, but sometimes those shows are the best shows.
Yeah, because everyone's just everyone practices by listening right right, what songs are
we gonna do? Here are the songs? And I'll be like all right,
we'll just show up and we'll leave it there. Yeah, because sometimes
when you practice too much, you're like, you like peak already before you
even get there. You're like, oh, you do it great at the
practice like four times, and then you go to the show and it's not
it's almost like saving that energy to just like No, that totally, that
totally makes sense. I firmly believe in that. I like it loose,
yeah, but enough where there's a format at the show, Yeah, makes
it makes it more exciting. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah,
do you want to do you want to play another song? I'm dying to
hear another song. Okay, I could play a new one that I just
wrote with my uh lovely girlfriend's kids. Now new new as in no one,
no one knows this song really, Oh, very nice. We like
the premiere on the radio, which they'll probably love. Oh, we love
it too. We love the world radio premieres. Yeh here Beatrix and Walter
Saint Pierre helped me write this song. They're in uh second and fourth grade.
Yes, so I'll try this one for them, all right, very
nice little rock turned into human he ate some grats and Guriel tall. But
then he went and had himself some cheese its. He thought, now,
well that is delicious. And they drove off the sunset on an elephant.
And they drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and a fante and
a fante had a fiete, had a fante. They drove into the sunset
as Man and the panda. They showed up to the party with some not
shows and the Rito's and Freido and they went to the nick game, but
they lost to the Celtics. But it was okay because we had a great
time. Then we drove off to the sunset on an elephant, and we
drove off into the sunset on an elephant. They had a fante, had
a fante, had a fineante, and they drove off into the sunset on
an elephant. Very nice. What is it called elephante? I believe I
didn't write those lyrics. They were written by The lyrics are relatable to me
because I also enjoyed cheese its. Yes, And think about being a rock.
You're a rock and then you just explode into a human. You eat
grass, you grow tall, but then you find cheese its and you're like,
wow, this is way different than grass. Yes, it sounds everyone
can relate to it. I feel it could be my next hit. I
would love to send them to trade schools with the money from that, right,
you know what I mean? Not college. We don't want to send
them to college and have them in debt for like fifty grand. We just
want maybe a ten thousand dollars debt and a trade where they can make money.
You know. There you go, I digress, digress If you're just
joining us. Kenny Troon is here with us, alive in studio. Benjamin
Blanger in the chatroom says, get it. Oh, Benny, that's awesome,
and Jay Fat is asking in the chatroom, have you were considered the
possibility of extending the length of your beard? To be honest, my beard
has been huge before. Yeah, covets beards. Yeah yeah, yeah he's
a beard. It's been really big. Yeah. I actually cut my hair
hair. I'll show you my hair is short right now. But yeah,
my hair was super long. Oh really, my beard was really yeah.
I let it go at the pandemic. It was like, I'm not going
to cut it till this is over. And then it didn't end, right,
But uh, two weeks I try to look I try to look a
little more presentable these days. But yeah, yeah, tell him I feel
his I feel him on the beard. I loved my beard. He has
a large beard. Yeah yeah, I could hide snacks in there for later.
It was really good. It was a flavor saver. By the way.
By the way, I'm curious working at the snow Uh do you know
Michael Martino also known as Texas Mic. Maybe if he works? What does
he do at this news I forget what he does there exactly. I mean
he's there, he's there for events. You remember, something to do with
concessions. Maybe, yeah, you may not have you may not have encountered
him. Maybe I've seen him like around. Yeah, definitely, Melanie said,
uh yeah, right, all guys lie and say, you know,
regarding the beard, say it was huge. I swear it was. You'll
find some Google image somewhere of it. We should play another studio track.
We've already played a couple of them earlier in the show, but I'm curious
to Uh, let's see, is there we've got that there's a song that
you sent me that's from a live show, and then there's another studio track.
I'll let you, I'll let you The other studio track is the single
and video I've been promoting called I Don't Think We're Ever Alone. Oh we
should play that then? Yeah, yeah, let's do that. And uh
yeah, this is a great song and can you tell us about it?
Is there a story behind it? Uh? Yeah? I during the pandemic,
I was living in an apartment that turns into a squat because my landlord,
we got served papers right before the pandemic happened where he hadn't been paying
taxes on the house for years. Oh, and they were gonna take it,
and they were like, you guys shouldn't pay him anymore because like you
know what I mean. So we were like okay, But then the pandemic
happened and we were just uh, you know, the power went out,
and then I had this steal power from the public library next door and the
house next door, and then it was a whole thing. Wow. But
I ended up getting out of there and finding a new place. But the
place I moved into a week or two before, someone had overdosed in the
house and they were trying to get someone else to move in. Yeah,
and they didn't tell me that, So I was dealing with all weird spirits
in the house that I moved in. So the song has a lot to
do with the weirdness that was occurring at the new place that I moved into,
where someone had just recently like died in the house. What kind of
weirdness was occurring? Okay, So randomly, I was on the deck and
I was I think I was smoking a cigarette or something, and all of
a sudden, there's a huge fire on the on the deck, Like a
fire just happened. Oh my god, I out of nowhere. I had
to put it out. And then a roommate of mine came out the bathroom
with like blood on him and he wasn't bleeding. It wasn't his blood.
Oh my god. So a lot of things were happening. Yeah, and
uh and yeah, So I feel like I don't think we're ever alone.
Was kind of like, I'm like, yeah, maybe, like even if
we pass on, like we're still here. And like just even if you
feel like there's no one physically there with you, something's up interesting. All
right, Well, let's give this a listen. Oh, by the way,
run like Thieves in the Chat Room says, this song is one of
my favorite Kenny Truon's songs nice, and Melanie says, why were they weird
spirits? That sounds super judgmental. Well, you know when there's blood and
fire. Yeah, if they were cooking me like breakfast, and like you
know, doing other things for me, like doing my laundry, I'd be
like, this ghost is cool, right, A helpful ghost is nice.
You know, that's the kind of ghost. Something strange was the foot at
the circle kve so to speak? You know what I mean? It'd be
nice if you could choose your ghost. Yeah you can't, you definitely can't.
Well, let's give this a listen. So this is Kenny Troon and
this is called I don't think we're ever alone here on Matt Connorton unleashed,
just crept in through the door like a black cat in the shadow. Do
you hear that? You smell that? I think something's burning. The blood
was spilled, loves we lost, smelling slurk within these walls. Something weird
going ding. I don't think we're ever alone, and I don't think we're
ever lone. I don't think where ever, I don't think we're never alone.
I don't think that we I ever know, just fell off the ball
was dead like that now's in the corner. Did you see that leg got
in the chat? No, I don't want to remember the dog Spiels.
Does spears live with their walls? Something weird going up. I don't think
we're ever lone. I don't sit where ever. I don't sick whereever.
I don't think where ever alone. I don't think that we I e A
said, I don't think that we I have a sing. I don't think
that we I. I don't think that we ever enough. I don't take
whereever at home. I don't sit where ever. I don't take clare ever.
I think that we are there for a long that is cool, and
that us have a spooky vibe that is I don't think we're ever alone.
The Great Kenny Truon is here with us, alive in studio. Yee,
the Great Kenny's true. I like the sound of that. Thank you man
absolutely. By the way, run like thieves in the chat room, says
Greg from r LT says that as a retired FDNY fire Marshal, Kenny's cigarette
started that fire case. No. I swear though, because I was on
the other side of the deck and I was like thinking, did I like
arkle Dan? I do? I had, but like, literally, uh
what I I think happened? I want to clarify to the FDNY alumni out
there, Yes, that it was a piece of broken gla mirror on the
ground. Son was hitting the mirror reflect. I swear this is what I
came up with if it wasn't a weird ghost or something killer. But I
was like, and there were like dried leaves hit like hitting the I don't
know, I'm trying. Anything's possible. Greg, can you run that through
your fd N Y machine? Tell me right if that's accurate or that's the
thing that could happen. And this is very nice. Nicole Saint Pierre in
the chat room says, the kids are feeling very famous after hearing you play
there. Yes, that's amazing. Hi, Bob's that's very nice, very
nice. That's great. They they they think I'm famous. It's weird.
Well you are now? Yeah, you get the Matt Connerton unleashed bump.
Yeah. When we went to when we went to the Celtics game, Little
Walt was like, oh, but can we get sit on the floor.
Aren't you famous? I'm like, oh, maybe one day their degrees degrees.
Shout out to them. I'm happy they're listening. And who played a
slide on that song? You mentioned my dude, Josh Honigman playing mean brass
slide on that last song. Is he in your band or he is?
Yeah, he's in my band. We have like a usual suspects list in
my band. There's some altering parts, like Greg will join the band for
like New Hampshire dates when I'm not in New York. You know, stuff
like that. We have like sometimes Maggie will come in and play the sacks
whenever we get Maggie and Maggie had a kid, so Maggie is off for
there a little bit. Yeah, like it changes. So we have Josh
Hanigman right now on guitar or keys, Chris Pachanka on guitar, Evan Hilsinger
on bass, and me on guitar and singing, and then drummers or you
know, drummers are hard to come by. Exactly exactly what was your because
you play multiple instruments, what was your first instrument? My first instrument was
bass because I wanted to join Evan's band. Oh yeah, I didn't know
how to play. I just loved music, and I wanted to be in
the and it was so cool that they had a band, Yeah, in
ninth grade, so I wanted to do it. That's what got you started.
Yeah, well, actually I think I started maybe a little before that,
where I borrowed my friend's bass to play in like a hardcore band.
Oh really, yeah, we were called Savagery. I can't forget this.
Shout out to Nick Voormont, Chris Suarez and Vinnie Roseboom. But we did
that, and then I seriously did a band with Evan where I was playing
bass, but then I moved into the singer spot because we didn't have a
singer, or we did have a singer, but he didn't want to sing,
or he was taking too long on doing the singing when it' sing in
front of us, or like oh well that's a problem. Yeah, And
then we we we did Me and Evan did a little demo of a song
idea where we had you know, those old laptop mics from that were just
on the computer. Yes, so he was in the room while I was
down the hall singing loud and it was like the same volume as it was
just ridiculous. But we did a demo like that where I sang and that
was like kind of when I was like, I think I'm going to be
the singer interesting. So that's that's how that worked out. Did you take
any vocal lessons or are you self taught? I did when I had a
record deal. The label got me a guy Adrian Holtz, which I love
that man. I don't know where he is this day, but it was
in the Lower East Side Manhattan where I would go see him. The label
Legg was like, we need you to have a better voice, and you
need to know you know, they're putting money into you. They want you
to have that. But basically the like, I don't know his his his
studying with him was pretty good. It was like I haven't done it since,
but it was the training I needed things I already knew and felt but
didn't really know how to, like I don't know, put him in a
boy and understand them, yeah, so to speak. But I did have
some vocal training, okay, okay, like twenty one yeah. Yeah,
We've got Kenny trun here. If you have any questions or anything at all
for Kenny six oh three, two five, six seven, the studio line
is open six oh three, two, five, six seven. Can you
talk more about your your experience with being signed to a label, because,
well, for one thing, I'm a music industry nerd, and we talk
about we talk about music industry stuff a lot on you on the show,
and you know, and that's kind of a lot of our listener bases made
up of people who either have experience in that or are active in the music
industry in some way. And I'm curious here. I mean, it sounds
like it it sounds like it ended with you feeling like you wanted to be
able to do everything yourself and be really independent. But I'm curious. You
know, pretty pretty traumatic stuff. I guess for me, it's like my
PTSD stuff. No kid, I was like twenty Yeah, It's like the
whole process of getting a deal was it was so weird. It was like
it was almost like you and you found a Craigslist ad for a producer looking
for a hot new band, and this is like, oh, five,
two thousand and five. So we get a producer and a manager combo from
Craigslist. Producer manager combo, and they're like kind of like grooming us in
a way of like making us look a certain way. And recording us.
Wait, just so I'm clear, So this combo they were advertising and I
don't the drummer found it. I didn't find this all the time, but
like this is how it happened, like they So we got that. We
worked with them for like a pretty long time. Like we we got an
investor, so they I guess the manager and producer would record a demo for
us, get an investor to pay for it, and then the manager used
his contacts to shop it and it and it worked. We had Hollywood Records
come out to see us, took us to dinner after we played the Continental
in New York City. That was great. My mom got a whole school
bus to bring everyone to the city from Long Island, so we packed the
place out. Cool. Yeah, we were We knew what we you know,
we're dealing with. We're having someone come see us and all that,
and you know, eventually, you know, some some of the records,
the labels were what were okay? And I got I hit it off with
the dude from Hollywood Records, Jason Jordan a lot, and uh, we
didn't end up going with him. I think Breaking Benjamin was with him at
the time. Hollywood Records, and uh, we ended up getting flown out
to California to meet with Jamie Feldman and Andy Slater for Capitol Records. So
we we had a audition for the Hall label. So it was a cool
moment for me and the and the guys in the band at that time because
we we show and proved like the Hall labels, like let's make a record.
We were just like wow, is this crazy? Like I was the
front man then. So when we did the performance, I go off the
stage, got in their faces, was doing like, yeah, you know
what I mean. Today I felt like it was a moment in time I'll
never forget, you know what I mean. It was really great. Went
to the Rainbow Room after La where let's all go over're twenty one. But
and then then comes into other stuff where everyone now in the band thinks they
know how to write the hit. I'm just the singer even though I played
guitar and wrote a song like I only wrote like one or two songs where
they let me. Okay the band because the band all things they knew how
to do everything. Yeah, they swamped me an auto tune. I hate
auto tune. There's just like things that were just really hard to deal with.
Yeah, and then after a while it just was really I couldn't express
myself the way I wanted. I was odd man out on little tours we
did where like I wasn't even being friends with them. Really we weren't getting
along. Wow. It was just a lot of things. And I actually
and for that to happen so early and all this, you know, yeah,
I habashed it. I left. Wow. I walked away from it
because it wasn't right. It didn't feel right, and I wasn't there was
like telling me what to where, like the the labels, like tell me
where these like leather pants and like just like all this stuff where I'm just
like they were riding the wave of like the emo wave and five six sure,
yeah seven, And I'm not necessarily I'm from there where a lot of
that music came to, you know, get some notoriety, right, but
like I always felt it was a little different, and I don't know,
it gives me a lot of gave me a lot of grief for a lot
of years, because you want that as an artist, You want to be
on a label you wanted, But then it's not crack up to all,
you know, what I mean. And you know, we're okay on terms
now. Like with that band, we were all young, we didn't know
what the hell was going on. We were all needed to grow and learn,
and it was just, uh, I don't know, because I'm always
trying to make it back to that mountain, but that mountain isn't where I
want to go but to some relevance. I want to get my music out
to the masses. But it's weird in these times. You feel like when
you post stuff, you're a just in the clutter of everyone else's stuff where
it'll get overlooked or you have to pay to play. You gotta pay.
If you don't have the money, it won't talk for you, you know
what I mean. So it's just interesting to me. But that that whole
dealing with the major label was pretty interesting time when you walked away, I
mean, did did they try to get should have stay? Did the label
put any pressure on you to stay? Or how did? How did know?
Because we were signed to the producer and manager who signed to the You
know what I'm saying, You're like not even You're like the puppet in that
aspect then, like you don't control anything. Yeah, you know what I
mean, So it becomes like I don't even know at that point, but
wow, yeah, did the band try to continue without you? Dude?
They did, okay, and I felt like they used all the same contexts
that they had and I don't care because I didn't want to be involved anymore.
They went on, they did a band for a while, and now
they they're not a band like most bands. They're a band till you're not
a band. But I've never stopped. I will say this. I've been
continuing my journey. It's my journey, so it's different from everyone else,
is different from theirs, and I kind of like where I've I've gone.
I've gone to weird places I do. We haven't even touched upon this,
but I have different aliases and characters in different genres of music that I do.
Okay, I have an R and B character named Kenneth Wood. Oh,
yes, I found Kenneth Wood online. See that's me. Okay,
you didn't know because I was wearing glasses. I was a little more suave
looking. Yeah, But I also have a rap alias Snotty Nose, and
I'm in a metal post metal band called as Dark as You. Oh,
that's a cool wow, cool man. Yeah, Like I built like my
own world of genres and music. Like it's my own label of my own
call that weird or narcissistic or anything, but I'm it's pretty. It's my
world that I created, and I really enjoy it. And that's when I
put my life's passion and yeah, yeah do they Is there sort of a
hierarchy in your mind in terms of in terms of priorities. I keep it
loose. I know when it's time to do it's weird. I know when
it's time to like go into one of the other characters and do or like
you know, because I also like to switch it up in music because he
keeps it fun that way. Yeah. So I love it. I love
doing it. Yeah yeah, And I have total control of my own stuff.
So really good, very cool. Yeah, if you're just joining us,
Kenny Truoness here and if you want to, we don't have a lot
of time left, So if you want to get in with the question or
anything at all, give us a call in the studio line six O three
two five six seven. Melanie in the chat room does have a question.
She says, are you still in the Haunted apartment. But obviously no,
no, that was in New York, back in New York. That was
in Patchhog, New York. I don't know if you guys know where Patchhog
is, patch Hoog, but yeah, a fun fact, Billy Idol lived
in Patchhog when he came from uh I think England. Oh really yeah,
and he moved to Long Island in Patchhop very random fact. All right,
yeah, do you want to uh, well, we have some time left.
Do you want to play another live song for us? Yeah, let's
see we got here. I'd love to hear more alive again if you're just
showing us. We have Kenny Troon live in studio here on the program.
We'll get another make up there there we go. Okay, this song is
called mark my words? All right, how many days over in a week?
If you could neverly? No, how we'll ever get the Sunday school
long tie Lola knows it. The bus stops right outside of my house.
It takes me out in bay Ya. Well, I'm pretty sure that I
can occupy my lie. Just fine, I'm lie competative. Mark my words,
mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day, we believe
in monanjazz miracle monyjasz miracon, mark my words and mark your calendar. Well,
the day is the day we believe in monanjious miracles. How many people
do we meet in our short existence? Well, our last count about thirty
eight sad years. And go now I know it's at the bus stops right
outside my house. Takes me out of bow. Yeah, well I'm pretty
sure that I can occupy my life. Just fine, I'm alive. Come
to take the thing. Mark my words in mark your calendar. Well,
the day is the day we believe in mons miricle born jus mimicles. Mark
my words and mark your calendar. Well, the day is the day we
believe? Will we believe? We believe? How will I even get to
Sunday school on time? If I never sleep a night, if I never
sleep, how will I even get to Sunday school on time? Time?
Time? Who? Mark my words? Who mark your calendar? Well?
The day is the day we was it even bine? Just mirick yes,
mimicals, mack my words in mom your canender. Well, the day is
the day. Day is the day. Oh my god, what a great
song. Thank you. I love that. That's all. I really appreciate
it. What's the name of that again? That song is called Mark my
Words? Okay, now, is that is that out? Is that available?
That's on my first solo album, No Longer Scared, which is out
on all platforms? Wow? Yeah really really one of the first song not
first, but like one of the earlier songs I've written, okay, like
twenty two thousand and nine, maybe I wrote it? Oh no kidding?
Yeah, yeah, wow that is that is really good, really good.
Really appreciate it absolutely absolutely. We've got Yeah, we've got a femanis left.
If you have any questions or anything at all for Kenny six o three
two five, six o seven, we have Kenny Truon with us alive in
studio. Now, is is everything else? Like, are these as you
described it, these different characters they have in music as? Are they all
easy to find online for people who want to explore all the platforms? Yeah?
Yeah, it's uh if you go to my Instagram Kenny Truon music,
Yeah, the link tree has everything so you can like it's like a treasure
trove of like what is this? Is this the same person? Like?
So it's kind of like, I don't know, I want people to find
my music that way and just like keep digging and me like wait, what
is it? Right? Right? Like how you found it? I found
the link tree and I have been sharing it. Yes, yes, thank
you, Yeah I have. I just came out with I did a merch
drop with Tea Public. I don't know if you guys heard of that website,
but I got a lot of cool merch on my link tree that I
just came out with. This is one of them. This is my album
cover to most of the songs you played on the radio today. Oh okay.
It's called Mangustine. Okay, nice and yeah, So if you guys
want to check out Mangustine, most of the songs that Matt played today,
we're on that album Outstanding. Yeah, we're going into in a couple of
minutes. We're going to close out with I've got my thumb out this live.
Now. Where was this recorded? This was recorded at my drummer's recording
studio at the Coop Live at the Coop Studios in Irvington, New York.
Oh okay, And we did it on my birthday. I drove down to
New York for my friend Sue's wedding shout at Sue and Danielle and then the
next day we went to Irvington and I hired a videographer and we did a
live in studio thing and this song is actually improvised, like kidding. We
got in the room and did it. We were starting to do it,
and then I was like, wait, let's wait till the cameras on and
then let's really do it, because you don't want to give it a waste
of energy, you know what I mean? Right of course, So once
we caught ourselves, we waited till the camera I was done, and then
we like started into that idea we did and what you're about to hear is
that all improvised. Excellent, excellent, And before we do that too.
Where should people go online? Where's the best place to go for people to
keep up with everything that you're doing. I would on Facebook Kenny Troon or
Instagram Kenny Truon music. That's the two most important hubs to find all my
music. YouTube Just look up Kenny Truon. I got a ton of I
got a channel on there, a ton of videos and uh yeah, and
you have an unusual last name, so it's easy to find you. Yeah
t r u H And yes, yes, which Matt has successfully said my
name the whole time without knowing, which is great. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, I was asking listeners know this, but yeah, I was asking
you off their earlier my senior last name, and it turned out I got
it right. Yeah. I was very happy about it actually talking about it
this morning before we leaf. I hope I'm saying that. I mean,
you don't want to say it wrong, like a bunch of times. I'm
like, oh man, right right, right, like eight times before.
Does anybody ever misspell it? Like have you ever seen it misspelled like on
a poster for a show or something. Yes, I've seen, because if
they've heard my name and they try to write it, I've seen it written
t r u n e. Oh really yeah, because they're like truan like
prune right. Yeah, yeah, I can see it's funny. I can
see where that would happen. Yeah. Yeah, So we'll uh, we'll
play this in a moment, but h for anyone listening, if you missed
any part of today's show, it will be up uh in a little bit
within the hour at w m n H Radio dot organ, at my website
Matt Connorton dot com, and uh, of course next week we've got she's
do you know do you remember offhand when we have next week or do you
have it open? I should have I should have asked you earlier. I
just happened to be that talented that I do happen to be excellent, because
I know we've got a stacked Tom Russo would be joining us as well as
Dark Rain and Vices. Ah, very good, that's all coming up health
on the sixteenth, and of course we'll have Eric Pilcher's classic film review as
well, YadA YadA, So that'll be a that'll be a nice full show.
And then oh no, wait, oh that's the sixteenth today, I
wait, No, today's the ninth. I did give you the right date.
Okay, good, good, excellent. No, you know what it
has to strow me off is that you and I are actually going back to
the Mosaic Art Collection. Oh yes, on the fifteenth for the AI in
Art talk. All right, noon one at five we'll be attending the noon
one on the fifteenth. You know, maybe we'll have a chance to tell
you a little about it on the sixteenth. Yes, absolutely absolutely, And
I'll just remind people too that tomorrow night at seven pm Eastern time. I'll
be appearing on the uh Kevin's Happy Hour podcast Kevin's happy Hour dot com and
you can find me at Jencoffee dot com, j E N N C O
F f U I dot com. And by the way, I said that
wrong, it's Trevor's Happy Hour. I keep I keep getting that mixed up
in my mind. I keep thinking Kevin's. I'm not sure why Trevor's Trevor's
Happy Hour dot com. We'll be discussing the uh Darryl holland John Oates,
Uh backle, that's a Darryl whose house? Daryl, you can't perform my
songs without me. It's such a it's it's all very sad. Yeah,
he's such a man eater. Well you know what, I can't go for
that. Well, well, well say it isn't so all right, we're
out, we're out of time, all right, we that we're gonna play
this. This is I got my thumb out recorded live and this is Kenny
True and Kenny thank you again. So thank you guys for having me.
Absolutely absolutely and check this out and we'll talk to you a little bit later.
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