WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:06.519 If you don't know with confidence that you can make eight out of ten puts 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:10.480 from three feet around the whole, your decision making is going to be skewed 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.480 and probably poor. Frankly, I'm a big believer in soaring with your strengths, 4 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:18.760 but understand that the facts are the facts. If I have no idea 5 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.519 that, wow, I had thirty four puts in this nine hole round, 6 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.640 it's just a number. But now that we know where we stand, we 7 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.600 can work on creating the trend in the direction of your choosing, which is 8 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.520 typically a lower score. What gets measured gets improved. It's as simple as 9 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:39.039 that. Hi, this is Robbie Smith from Lake City, Minnesota, and 10 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:44.000 I play at the Jewel Golf Course. This is Golf smarterst Episode number nine 11 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:50.079 hundred and nine. What gets measured gets improved, It's as simple as that. 12 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:55.240 With business and golf coach doctor Greta Anderson, this is Golf Smarter, 13 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.000 sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:04.680 score and raise your golf I kid, here's your host, Fred Green. 15 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:14.000 Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Pretta, Hello here, I'm glad to 16 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.400 have you here. I love having podcasters on because I know you can talk, 17 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:19.920 Yes, I can do that, but a podcaster with a show called 18 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.799 The Smart Golfer, it's like, I gotta find this one out. Yeah 19 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.959 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Well, yes, 20 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.359 we're going it's gonna be fun looking forward to it. Thanks for having 21 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.280 me again, Yeah, of course. Let's let's start with your podcast, 22 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.760 why you started doing it, and how you came up with the name The 23 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:42.439 Smart Golfer, because we're kind of sympatico here, right, Well, I 24 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:48.719 realize that I can't talk, but one of the one of the things that 25 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:53.439 I really value is the depth of a good answer, right. You know, 26 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.040 we would need to talk as much as we need to talk, but 27 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.799 sometimes the answer might not be a two minute if it Sometimes it might require 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:05.040 a little bit more depth. And so I was looking for a place in 29 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.000 a space to do that because frankly, that's what a lot of people were 30 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:10.840 asking me for. They were saying, we would love to have a place 31 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:15.000 where we can hear those as as a lot of my clients will call those 32 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:20.280 doctor Gretai isms, right, and so it kind of began from their part 33 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:23.759 one. And then secondly, in terms of the name, I find that 34 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:29.439 in many of my clients when we'll probably talk about this as we go on 35 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:35.599 in our conversation here, but they come with such an amazing breadth of skills 36 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.840 and attributes as humans, right, but when it comes to golf, they 37 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:44.199 may feel a little bit intimidated or inadequate in some ways. And I just 38 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:49.560 always found that to be unfortunate but correctible, if you will. But one 39 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:53.680 of the things that I encourage people with is that you can always become a 40 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:55.840 smart golfer. You have the opportunity to do that. Even if you aren't 41 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.639 blessed with the greatest of athleticism and strange and distance on the off the tea 42 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:05.439 and all those things, you can be a smart golfer. Hence the name 43 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:12.759 a Smart Golfer podcasts. And it was the reasoning for me to come at 44 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.159 in this direction was because I always believe that if you were a smart golfer, 45 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.240 you can lower your scores a lot quicker than if you're just working on 46 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.840 your mechanics. I would agree, absolutely, and that is exactly what I'm 47 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:27.439 what I'm trying to convey to them when I say that, like, you 48 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.719 can be a smart golfer, smart golf is about playing golf, what strokes 49 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.800 and shots are best for you, not for her, not for him. 50 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:38.240 And a lot of golfers, as you well know, fall prey to this, 51 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.159 like you know, staggering. But getting them out of that habit before 52 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.479 it even becomes a habit, and empowering them to know that I'm a smart 53 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:52.479 golfer goes a long way, goes a long way. Isn't it amazing how 54 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:58.560 people will take the advice of their playing partners more frequently than they'll take the 55 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:03.240 advice of a golfing stucker. It's it's got to be frustrating for you. 56 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:10.199 Well, it's it's it's kind of like it's kind of like parenting in a 57 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.719 way. That's kind of the only the analogy that I can talk Abou'm not 58 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.639 a parent, I don't have, you know, but I was raised by 59 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:17.920 a good set of a great set of parents, and so I know sometimes 60 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.279 they would be going, like, what is this little girl doing. They're 61 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.000 gonna I need to kind of fall and scrape the knee, if you will, 62 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.160 to learn the lesson, And so sometimes it's like that, you know, 63 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:30.839 they kind of have to just figure out like, well, I was 64 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.439 out there and I don't know why I listened to her. Well, we've 65 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:40.319 kind of talked about this, and a lot of that awesome comes with understanding 66 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:44.120 being smart, right, being a smart golfer, understanding all that goes into 67 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:48.199 making the right decisions out there. Once they once they're equipped with that knowledge, 68 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.800 you're not worried about what club Susie's using, you know, to get 69 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:56.439 over the pond. You're gonna understand what you need to what you club you 70 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:00.319 need to use, or whatever the case may be. And but but that 71 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.480 the peer pressure is real out there on those on those fairways, as we 72 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:10.759 like to say, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So tell me about your LPGA 73 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.360 journey. How you I mean, you're a PhD, you're you're an accomplished 74 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:23.879 LPGA instructor, but you're also an LPGA instructor for instructors. Correct correct, 75 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:30.120 correct, Yes, busy, very busy and yes, very important, Yes, 76 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.920 yes, very business. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. 77 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:38.079 Yeah, So, as you know my as as you observed, my background 78 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:44.160 is in education and research, and so I really though I've done many things 79 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.920 and continue to do many things in my life and my career, I've always 80 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:53.639 if you, if you asked me to define myself, I'll probably revert to 81 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:58.199 education. As my mom has said forever, even when I was kind of 82 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:00.519 in denial, of not denial, but I I really hadn't given any much 83 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.560 thought. She said. I would always say, Gretta, if you like 84 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:05.959 doing it, you're gonna end up teaching it. And I would go, 85 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.240 no, Mom, no, no, no, no, and then I 86 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.600 and then I think one day she started rattling off all these things over the 87 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.759 years, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 88 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:21.360 So it's really how it's it's the great expression of myself when I have the 89 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:26.920 skill and the and the passion to help people learn to do things really well. 90 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.600 And in terms of golf, what I began to see very clearly is 91 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:36.079 that and understand even as a golfer, that's as as we work hard to 92 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:42.399 grow the game and diversify and make it more welcoming, education is got to 93 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.519 be a key component of that. You know, golf isn't necessarily the easiest 94 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.240 thing to learn, but one of the one of the big barriers to it 95 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:55.360 is is that it challenges in learning right, and the educational process in golf 96 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:00.360 has been pretty traditional for a mighty long time that some barriers. So if 97 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:05.360 we can help too, if you will make that a bit more contemporary, 98 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:12.079 more reflective of society. When people see somebody like them, they can know 99 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.240 they can be somebody like them. And so my great hope has always been 100 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:20.480 that down the road, you know, golf will be the proverbial rainbow in 101 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:25.439 terms of players, instruction, all of that. But right now there are 102 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:30.439 a few issues inside the educational process that could use a little bit smoothing out. 103 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.959 So my choice and decision was to use my expertise as a researcher and 104 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:41.759 as an educator to help improve and innovate the landscape. And so the LPGA, 105 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:45.399 being you know, all about teaching and education and golf, it was 106 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.600 just kind of the perfect landing spot. Why golf, I mean, you 107 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:55.000 have I love golf, you know, coming coming through with this education that 108 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.839 you have and the encouragement that you have. Ye, why what is it 109 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.279 the drew to golf? Do I love? Well? First of all, 110 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.839 I love golf. It's it's super fun. And I just understood, like, 111 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:09.720 I'm a very resilient kind of person like and I'm and I can be 112 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.240 pretty stubborn in a good way, right, but particularly when it comes to 113 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.560 sport. I have pretty thick skin. So you could tell me you see 114 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:20.839 no talent in this and that, and I'll go like, okay, and 115 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.720 I'm gonna prove you wrong. I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna prove 116 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:30.360 you wrong. And I found that to be the case, not for myself, 117 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:35.440 but for others in golf, like they weren't having really great experiences as 118 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.159 they sought instruction and you know, kind of trying to become a part of 119 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.080 the golf global community, if you will. And so for me, that 120 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.840 similar thing happened, which is kind of what kind of flipped the switch for 121 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:54.120 me and made a decision. I played tennis. I played competitive tennis from 122 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.240 the time I was a small girl all the way up into my early thirties. 123 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:01.600 But I had a very significant hand in his injury, which essentially kind 124 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.720 of ended that career. Which I'm a jock, but you know, I 125 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:11.360 love sports, and so I really had to kind of figure out what I 126 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.600 was going to do with this athletic energy. I mean, I'm gonna work 127 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.759 and do all those things, but I'm an athlete and I enjoy that kind 128 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.399 of thing. So I was already playing a lot of golf at that point, 129 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.600 and so I was kind of had a friend who was she was learning, 130 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.639 and so we would play and essentially I was basically giving playing lessons. 131 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:31.960 I just really hadn't thought of it that way. And she said, you 132 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.840 know, you're pretty good at this. You teach everything else, Greta, 133 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.080 why don't you like think about teaching. And I'm like, yeah, it 134 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.200 seems like a lot, you know, this so called thing. I'm just 135 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.399 you know, so long. On the short, I decided to go to 136 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.879 the PGA show, you know, kind of sniff around and everything. I 137 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.840 ended up, you know, I'll find my way, you know, to 138 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:56.279 to I'm a curious girl like that. I will find my way. And 139 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:01.000 I ended up in conversation with a few people at the time. I believe 140 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:07.200 she was might have been the national secretary Woman dev Vangelo Master Professional, and 141 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.720 in dialogue we began talking and she said, you know, you should kind 142 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.200 of think about joining the LPG. And I'm going like, oh, that 143 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:16.879 seems like a lot of work. I've kind of got the Oh. By 144 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.120 the way, I owned a manufacturing company at the time, and I'm like, 145 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.799 I kind of have this job, you know, over here being the 146 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.240 CEO of this company. We'll think about it. And so she's like, 147 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.440 I'm telling you you need to come on over here. Fast forward another year 148 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.840 I'm back. She's like, well, something brought you back, and I'm 149 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.559 like, yeah, I'm kind of thinking about it and everything like that. 150 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:45.519 So I think another year might have gone. But this was a long process 151 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.679 for me in that regard. The third year, she said, look, 152 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.480 we need you here for a variety of reasons. You you you fit right, 153 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.200 you fit and you have you can bring some unique value. And also 154 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.480 we're just growing, we're growing the game, so you need to come ahead 155 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.720 and do this. So long the short I jumped in began the process, 156 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.840 and I think it might have been probably eight or ten months later. I 157 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.600 show up at you show up for level one education and who's at the front 158 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.120 of the classroom? Depth, And so my journey began. And so once 159 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.720 I jumped in, I was all in and so here we are. You 160 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:22.559 know, that's I don't have to do have due too many things. And 161 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.039 once I got in, I just I loved it and it just kind of 162 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.240 you know the way life, the cycle of life and business works. I 163 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:37.159 was actually selling that business and manufacturing business and had a little time on my 164 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.759 hands, and I thought about what did I want my next entrepreneurial endeavor to 165 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.320 look like? And I wanted it to be of service, and so I 166 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.919 thought, well, I know how to build I how to build businesses, 167 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.399 and let's build one which will be very fun, will serve a lot of 168 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.679 people, and it could do a lot of good in growing something that I 169 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:01.240 was really growing to fall in love with, which was off. And here 170 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.200 we are, here we are just in time to take a commercial break. 171 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:15.360 We'll right back at what age did you start playing golf? When did you 172 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.240 get introduced? Is this a family thing or is you just the jock? 173 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:26.200 I am the jock, but my entire family plays golf. Ah okay, 174 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.559 they play way more golf than I do now at the time. So let 175 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.039 me tell your question, was golf instructor? Golf instructors don't play golf? 176 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.759 No, that's what if people are like you don't, when do you play 177 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.320 golf? I go like like never, Like I'm around it all the time, 178 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:46.480 right all the time. And you know most golf instructors, you know, 179 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.120 people will say like, well, you must be playing now, I'm 180 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.480 not playing rounds. I hit every shot in the in the in the book 181 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:58.159 every day. So my game stays, my shot making stays reasonably be sharp. 182 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.559 But we know that that's not necessarily the makings of and if you know 183 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.039 a low's going round, you know, so I get around very well. 184 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.559 I just don't play on a whole lot, right, yeah, right, 185 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:16.600 right, so yeah, but yeah, you mentioned the barriers that were there, 186 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:22.960 and I have to believe that being an African American woman in the golf 187 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:31.519 industry. The barriers are tall, the barriers are strong. How how does 188 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:37.960 that affect you and your community? You're you're exactly right, right, You're 189 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.039 exactly right. They are they are tall, and they can be wide, 190 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.679 and for many they seem insurmountable. And so I always viewed myself as an 191 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:54.200 opportunity to help, you know, kind of bring those down and shrink them 192 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.960 and and shorten them, right, And I know that that's that's gonna be 193 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.840 a lengthy process because they didn't pop up overnight, right, But we have 194 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:07.600 to you know, be consistent and chipping away at them and also helping to 195 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.200 create the systems that will facilitate bringing those down. And again, that's just 196 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.200 kind of being systematic and systemic in that regard, but creating awareness on a 197 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:22.759 lot of things that people may not understand, our hindrances to participation, involvement, 198 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:28.480 getting involved, whether that's playing or even seeing yourself with a career in 199 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.720 golf. Right, it's those small little things that because golf doesn't you know, 200 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.200 it's not a silo, right, It's part of society. So there 201 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:43.120 are things that factor into whether or not, you know, for examples, 202 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:50.919 pursuit can pursuit of your professional your professional credential. Well, it's not inexpensive, 203 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:56.279 it's not not time consuming. You know, you have to It's not 204 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:58.960 like some things where you can just get a certificate, you know, take 205 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.039 a test and certified. It's not like that. It's a very involved process. 206 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:09.879 So if you're coming from an economically disadvantaged background already, you probably don't 207 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.720 have a spare fifteen thousand dollars sitting on, you know, in the bank 208 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.639 with weeks. You know, it's a little bit different now as we've migrated 209 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.720 and brought some of the educational programming online. But like for example, when 210 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.320 I went through I mean you went away, I would fly fly out to 211 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.679 California or Arizona or whatever the case may be be there, which means you're 212 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:35.360 not working. So these types of things make it very difficult and challenging for 213 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.320 people who may be coming from, you know, a different life experience to 214 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.720 just say like, I want to do that, because even with the best 215 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:48.159 of intentions can't make it happen. And these are non negotiables to getting into 216 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:56.360 the teaching profession as a fully credential teacher. Yeah, and being in Atlanta 217 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.759 where the barriers are still great. Yeah, you have to be a fresh 218 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:11.240 face that has the ability to communicate with a community that wants this instruction. 219 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:17.639 You know it is searching it out and you make it so much easier. 220 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.039 You're exactly right, which is one of the great I view it as an 221 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:30.279 amazing opportunity. But I'm never it never ceases to amaze me the amazing people 222 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:33.600 who come onto my lesson tee and tell me like I've been looking for you, 223 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:40.879 Oh it right, it's it's it's you know, it's it's just amazing. 224 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.759 I love my job in that for so many reasons. But that's one 225 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:49.000 of the great great ones that people say like Okay, I'm I'm in now, 226 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.679 Like it's not that they it's not that they can't have an amazing experience 227 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:57.360 with someone who doesn't look like them. But golf is tough. Mean golf, 228 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.320 you know, I mean golf can be tough, you know, for 229 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:04.480 just the engagement involvement, the little things. Hey, showing up at a 230 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.079 parking lot, at the place you've never been. When you walk into the 231 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.400 clubhouse, someone may be looking like at you, like you might not belong 232 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.599 here, like, yeah, can I help you? Yeah? Yeah, 233 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.559 right, Like, Hey, I'm just walking in. I'm looking for the 234 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:19.839 bathroom. I'm not trying to you know, steal anything or you know, 235 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:25.240 it's just for something where you're gonna be paying. People go like, hey, 236 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:30.160 I don't need that hassle. And I want people to, you know, 237 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.920 to to know that, yeah, every every now and then, you're 238 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.599 gonna run into somebody who's just you know or whatever. We won't use bad 239 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.640 words here, but you know that might happen, but I want you to 240 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.119 know that you belong here. And so on my lesson team, most of 241 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.000 my students, you know, they may not some of'em remember it very 242 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:53.799 explicitly, but I always start, particularly for new golfers coming, I always 243 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.480 tell them I'm excited to have you here. Working with me today, but 244 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:03.000 I'm more excited to have you in golf. Welcome to golf. You belong 245 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.240 here, right, and we are glad to have you. Intentionality it matters, 246 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:15.279 yeah, yeah, even in your game matters. Yeah, And intentionally 247 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.599 it matters. But the choice that you know you could do do a million 248 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.559 things, and you've taken the step even though you're you're you're nervous. I 249 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.079 mean, these are you know, I teach a lot of women. I 250 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:30.200 teach predominantly women, though I teach gentlemen. But I'm always amazed, like 251 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.240 these are like C suite executives. You when when I ask them what they 252 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.599 do, you know, they may give me like, you know, oh, 253 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.160 I'm just an attorney. And then later I find I'm like, you're 254 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.359 like, not just an attorney or whatever the case may be. But they 255 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:48.519 come and they can literally be shaking in their poor little golf shoes, and 256 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.200 I'm colle it's just golf. They're like, I know, but it's golf, 257 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.279 and I want I want to free them of that. Yeah, well 258 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:02.759 thank you for doing that. Thank you my pleasure. Yeah, and do 259 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.839 you so you said you prefer you'll teach men and or women, But you 260 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.319 prefer having women and do you prefer women who are new to the game or 261 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:17.680 just starting or have or seasoned? What is you know? I love teaching 262 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:22.480 all golfers, you know, obviously teaching golfers at different stages of the journey. 263 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.440 Are you know you come with unique circumstances. I love you know, 264 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.880 I have you know, it's you know, several of my clients that are 265 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:34.920 you know, the low digit no no digit handicappers as I like to call 266 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:37.720 them. Yeah, they're gentlemen who've been playing, and I have a couple 267 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.480 of ladies, but you know, they skew toward toward the men. But 268 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:47.200 those lessons are always fun because they're so they're they're just different, right, 269 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.920 They're conversational, they're more strategic. There may be some technical things, but 270 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:55.039 oftentimes it's just a kind of a different They're in a different developmental stage. 271 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:00.640 So I enjoy those just as much. I will say that the ladies have 272 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.880 found me because when I began, I really didn't say clearly who I was 273 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.359 going to teach. I just kind of wanted to see who I would resonate 274 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:14.000 with. Now I've talked about my sports and that type of thing for many 275 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.359 I'm a researcher, and for many years when I was in the corporate world 276 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:26.559 and even after that, I worked in the luxury hospitality vertical. So I 277 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.480 viewed things like golf. Let's be real, nobody's going to die if they 278 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.839 don't play golf. I mean sort of kind of, but you know what 279 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.079 I mean. It's not like food or shelter, and so I always view 280 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.920 but golf, it will kill you, it definitely will. But I view 281 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:49.200 like my offering, my service, as as I was taught to view a 282 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:53.799 luxury experience. When you work in the hotel in hospitality environment and in the 283 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.960 you know, five star hotels and that type of thing, as even as 284 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:02.480 in the research arm you learned that this is about service because at the end 285 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.799 of the day, this you know, four hundred and fifty square foot room 286 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.799 at the Holiday End is the same as this four hundred fifty square foot room 287 00:21:08.839 --> 00:21:11.960 at the Mandarin. It's just that we've chosen to put some you know, 288 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.839 some higher level mattresses and that type of thing. But it's it's more than 289 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:22.039 anything. It's the service. So everything for me is about the service. 290 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.480 And with that, women are just drawn to it. Right, it doesn't 291 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.240 have to be complicated, but it's simple. It's streamline. It's service, 292 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.920 and I'm here to serve you. It's hospitality. I'm instruction, but it's 293 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.319 hospitality. Yes it is, Yes, it is. Let's take another break. 294 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:41.079 We'll be right back. I want to talk to you about doing business 295 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:52.440 on the golf course. Back, Greta, you have a really unique perspective 296 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.880 in the sense that so many of the golf instructors I talked to, they're 297 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.119 like, you know, I loved playing as a kid and I thought, 298 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:00.240 gee, I want to do this for the rest of my life. And 299 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.319 golf is their life, and you know, from start to end, and 300 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.920 as we kind of laughed at about earlier, they're shocked to find out that 301 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:12.039 they don't have time to play golf. Once they become an instruct that's their 302 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:18.960 business. And they were never really chained trained in having a business. Sure, 303 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.960 but you were in the corporate world. You've had your own company. 304 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:30.960 How do you approach doing business on the golf course or do you instruct people 305 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:37.480 on doing business on the golf course. I'm passionate about instructing people and helping 306 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:42.279 them to understand what a valuable too the golf course is it's a business tool. 307 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:48.079 It's a business skill when it's a business tool. Yeah, So many 308 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.759 conversations are happening on the golf course, you know, as I would often 309 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:57.240 tell you know, people I'm speaking to, especially my clients, to go 310 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:03.119 like so on Wednesday afternoons, I teach pretty late. You know, I 311 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:07.480 started later, but I teach pretty late, and I will tell them on 312 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.160 Wednesdays, I have to get here earlier than I would because I can't find 313 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:17.480 a parking spot. And so all that to say, it's because everybody's at 314 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:25.759 the office, they're doing business. Now, if you aren't getting invited to 315 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.599 the golf course, you're probably missing out on some of the business because after 316 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:33.200 all, particularly if you're not just should say particularly. But in the corporate 317 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:38.720 world, we know that ninety percent of fortune five hundred leadership played golf. 318 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:44.839 We know that, and we know that that increases with every level fortune one 319 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:48.680 hundred, fortune fifty, so on and so forth. We also know that 320 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.759 leadership, you know, there's the head and its as the body moves, 321 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.599 so goes to tail, right, So it trickles down. The culture of 322 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:00.200 golf trickles down. So it's like a language. I have not develop my 323 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:06.079 multi lingual skills very well. But let's just say I had a series of 324 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:11.119 business associates and colleagues and they were fluent in let's say French, and they 325 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.960 were gonna go out and they were gonna have an amazing dinner at a great 326 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.799 French restaurant and be in full flight using their their French and their Franco skills 327 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:23.839 and all that type of thing. I don't get much pass probably vous France, 328 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:30.039 so they're probably not gonna invite Greta, right. Yeah, doesn't mean 329 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.200 they don't like me, doesn't mean they don't think I'm competent, doesn't mean 330 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.240 they don't respect me. But I don't have anything to bring to the table. 331 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.680 I won't even know that they went out for the French dinner. They 332 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.119 were like, well, we didn't tell you cause you don't speak French and 333 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.839 we know you aren't really crazy about French food. So it's the same thing 334 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.960 that's happening when when people know that you don't play golf, you got familiar 335 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.480 with golf, you' you don't know it. Why would I tell you we're 336 00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:56.720 going to tee off and play a quick nine and talk about a few things 337 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:03.519 on Friday afternoon. If I know you don't know anything about golf, m 338 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:10.960 and thus you you're missing the meeting. Yeah, with a mess on it 339 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:18.720 meetings. Yeah, So uh, is it doing business on the golf course 340 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.680 a smart thing? Is that the place to do business or is it more 341 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:27.279 a place to learn if you want to do business with that person? I 342 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:33.720 think it's both. I think that it's important to It's a great place for 343 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.799 character, right, character revealing. It's it's the big one, right, 344 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.640 it's it's it will tell a lot about each of us, whether how we 345 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:48.119 handle ourselves throughout that round. So at that point I've now identified, Okay, 346 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:52.440 we could do a business. Right, it can work, and it 347 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:59.599 becomes a good place to continue doing business because we know that golf can foster 348 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.839 really relationships, right, It's it's a common ground. We can be very 349 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.160 you know, on opposite end of the spectrum on many things, but on 350 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.680 the golf course, for whatever reason, things can come together. Moreover, 351 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:18.359 most people who are in the positions of decision making value their time and only 352 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.880 have so much time. But golfers are going to make time for that golf, 353 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.599 right, So in many instances, where would I have an opportunity to 354 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:33.039 have an ongoing conversation with someone for two hours, three hours, four hours. 355 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:37.519 Not many places except the golf course. We can get a lot done 356 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.640 in a round. Yeah, and you can learn a lot about the person, 357 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:48.440 that's right, that's right. Right. I'm much more inclined to relax 358 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.400 and let you see my full self because it's got to happen as during the 359 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.839 round of golf, but it's accelerated on the golf course versus you know, 360 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.599 let's meet at the office or meet for a drink or whatever the case, 361 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:06.319 maybe it'll happen on the golf course. Right. So when you have these 362 00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:11.720 new these beginner golfers, these new golfers and from all these different places in 363 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.920 the world they come from, is that part of your instruction about you know, 364 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:22.759 the etiquette, the sensitivity of what golf is. Because we can blow 365 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.799 that off and say, yeah, it's not that important, but when you're 366 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:29.440 out there and you're playing on a regular basis or you're playing with strangers, 367 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:37.440 that's the kind of thing that can really create a lot of talk behind your 368 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.400 back, absolutely, which is that you're exactly right. So let's just say 369 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.880 for my class golf one oh one I call it, let's let's swing right 370 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.079 in that. Yes, we're gonna learn how to swing. We're gonna get 371 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.039 that ball flying high, fast and farm right. We're gonna get work on 372 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.759 that. But all of those pieces that you just mentioned at at our little 373 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:02.039 graduation ceremony, you are we have not touched on that. You are going 374 00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.160 to understand all of those things because those are the big barriers too. I 375 00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:10.960 found and I learned that and kind of my trajectory of teaching that hold a 376 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.279 lot of people back, particularly the women to an extent. A lot of 377 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.359 ladies are wired a bit differently. I might know how to hit the ball, 378 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.640 but there's a bunch of other stuff I'm not sure about. So guess 379 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.480 what. Yeah, I'm not going to go out there until I'm pretty sure 380 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.119 I know how to handle myself. I know where to stay, and I 381 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.559 know when I should talk when not to talk. Otherwise, I'm like, 382 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.640 you're taking lessons and you've learned how to hit a ball, but you didn't 383 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:38.680 learn how to play golf. There's a difference. There's a big Defen's the 384 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.359 difference. Yeah, And that's something that I talk about a lot. It's 385 00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:47.960 like I've played with a guy who told me I can change my swing anytime 386 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.480 I need, so if you see something, just let me know. I'm 387 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.559 like, what's your index? You know, I'm a twenty four. It's 388 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.960 like, yeah, I don't think you can. But the guy talked non 389 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.480 stopped and was like yeah, and he was talking non stopped the round and 390 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:07.039 it's like, dude, calm yeah, right. I kept thinking of Hamilton's 391 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:12.759 right the show. Hamilton's like talk less, smile right, right, exactly. 392 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.799 He didn't. I'm guessing I'm hoping if he just kept talking incessantly. 393 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:25.759 Unfortunately he didn't know, right, But you remember that, right, Remember 394 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.200 I'm trying to like this guy is. I looked at my buddy John, 395 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:37.440 who introduced us during the round. I turned back and he goes, I 396 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:38.839 mean I didn't say anything. He just saw my face and what Yeah, 397 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.240 I get it. And I was like this, let's not invite him back. 398 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:48.519 Yeah's inviting get this guy's phone number, But don't get his phone number. 399 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.240 Let's just bump into him again if we have to, exactly right, 400 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.119 And so those are the things that we don't want. So when we're again 401 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:03.440 intentional about help being and coaching on all of those pieces, they feel much 402 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.039 more equipped and so no, they might not hit the ball as crisply crisply 403 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.119 as they want to just yet, or those types of things, but they 404 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:17.480 can navigate the course successfully. And my goal is to always have the ladies 405 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.240 not feeling anyone I shouldn't say this, the ladies feeling comfortable and confident about 406 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.680 accepting the invitation to play. I want them to feel comfortable and confident enough 407 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:37.519 to initiate the invitation absolutely. All right, let's take another break. We'll 408 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:40.599 find out what's going on on Golf Smarter Mulligans this week, and we'll come 409 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.440 back with doctor Gretta Anderson. I'm just having too much fun here. We'll 410 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.160 be right back. We've all been told multiple times that the key to our 411 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.880 short game is turning three shots into two. Simply put, if you can 412 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.960 get close to the hole from inside of fifty or even a hundred yards with 413 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:02.559 your short game, you give your self a better chance to taking fewer puts 414 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:07.440 and hopefully have more gimmes. This week on Golf Smarter Mulligans, we have 415 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:12.440 the first of two conversations with instructor Chris Fry discussing which clubs to use and 416 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:18.039 how to get yourself in position to getting close to the hole. This week's 417 00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.359 episode is called learning the perfect pitch shot leads to more gimmes. The sweet 418 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.920 spot on a sixty degree is a lot smaller because it's so open. The 419 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.920 degree of loft is so high that the sweet spot actually shrinks. So I 420 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.240 recommend sixty for my lower handicapper, better player, but I recommend the sand 421 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.240 wedge for those higher handicappers that need that bigger sweet spot. Then from there 422 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.319 the stance is a little open. And the reason I like the stance to 423 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.880 be open is I like to put weight on the front foot, which is 424 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.480 the lead foot. My case, I'm a right handigolfer, so I put 425 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.640 about seventy percent of my weight on my left foot and I keep it there. 426 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.880 Having my open stance and my weight on my left foot promotes a sharper 427 00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:59.839 angle of attack into the golf ball. That sharper angle is what's going to 428 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.400 of us the height and the spin to pull off the shop. That's episode 429 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:07.920 two hundred and twenty five featuring Chris Fry in the first of two episodes on 430 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.720 our sister podcast, Golf Smarter Mulligans, being released this Friday morning. To 431 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:17.200 get you psyched up for your weekend round. So please follow both podcasts regularly 432 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.960 and never miss the next insight that could change your game. Golf's longest running 433 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.359 podcast, Golf Smarter and Golf Smarter Mulligans that revisits the best of the Golf 434 00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:38.640 Smarter episodes, and they're both available from wherever you're listening right now. So 435 00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:46.119 what happened with your hand that made golf challenging and made you change your whole 436 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:53.440 perspective on it? So I had a really severe like a combo like you 437 00:32:53.480 --> 00:33:00.799 know Guyon's canal and carpal tunnel little to two you know tunnels essentially sheaves that 438 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.359 house the nerves and are that run our hands. Well, I had the 439 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:12.359 lethal dynamic duel decided to collapse boom both of them. So it really kind 440 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.680 of yeah, yeah, it was not cute, but and I had surgery 441 00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:21.640 to success successfully repair it. But the problem was is that it created quite 442 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.759 a bit of scar tissue and I kind of have kind of bony wrists there, 443 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:28.880 so it's not a lot of space in there, and so the hinging 444 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:36.160 and everything really causing problems and it's painful frankly, And although I am naturally 445 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:42.319 left handed. I played golf right handed. Oh yeah, why so there 446 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:47.720 was because the first club I picked up, you know, and club whatever, 447 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.799 nineteen eighty whatever was my dad's club and he's a righty, well right 448 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:59.039 handed golfer, so it was. And when I picked it up. I'll 449 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:00.039 get back to the other part a minute. But when I picked up his 450 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:05.200 club, as I I don't know, ten nine whatever I was. Remember, 451 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.960 as I mentioned, I've played tennis since I was a very small girl. 452 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.559 Probably started tennis when I was seven. I mean, I was a 453 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.639 little girl, but I'm old enough from seething enough. However you want to 454 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.280 tournam it that when I began, I had a little wood racket and the 455 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.559 wood racket was about as big and heavy as I was, cause I was 456 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.920 a little string being. But I began two handed on both sides. Right. 457 00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.760 So I was at the range hanging out with my dad one day randomly 458 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.440 He's hitting balls and I'm you know, you know how kids do, just 459 00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.000 hang out and whatever, And I remember saying, like, well, Dad, 460 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.760 can I hit a ball? And you know, laid back as my 461 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.679 dad is, he was like sure, and he handed meat like it's one 462 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.039 of his wedges or something like that, you know, the shortest club in 463 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:50.039 the bag, and he just went back to hitting. And I remember I 464 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.599 was kind of standing there, like and I kind of figured out like, 465 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:59.440 okay, well the part that's supposed to hit the ball goes here, so 466 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:00.679 that means I I need to be standing here, you know, kind of 467 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.719 watching dad, and I just grabbed the club kind of like if this is 468 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.199 a two handed back end for a lefty, this is where I would be. 469 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.039 So I just kind of dropped the club. And so when I hit 470 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.199 the ball, though I do remember vividly my dad likes like he didn't see 471 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.559 me hit the shot, but like he froze watching the shot, and he 472 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.519 kind of turned and he's like, do that again, Do that again. 473 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:29.159 I figured it out, you know, and boom, and he's like, 474 00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.599 you're pretty good at that, and I was like yeah and everything. So 475 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:36.239 I did. I took some lessons and because I remember him saying like, 476 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.400 Dad's not gonna screw you up. I'm not gonna coach you at all, 477 00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:43.760 like okay, and I did. I was actually quite good at it. 478 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:50.199 But I will say this, it wasn't that I felt unwelcome in the environment 479 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:54.039 where I went to like the little junior camp. I just didn't feel super 480 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:58.559 welcome and so you know, there's only so much time in the day and 481 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.159 that type of thing and so many resources. But I remember my mom saying 482 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.840 like, well, where did you have more fun? And that was a 483 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.000 no brainer. It was over in Tennis. You know, I had a 484 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:12.199 great network there. It was it was diverse, it was supportive, and 485 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.880 that's where I landed. So though I have no I don't feel bad like 486 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.840 not having been like, you know, a junior accomplished junior golfer. I 487 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.760 really wasn't much of a junior golfer at all and play that much as a 488 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:29.239 junior. But I will say that my great hope is that, you know, 489 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.280 the the little Greta, you know, the next little girl who looks 490 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.599 like me, you know, not very far from now. May even if 491 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.440 she doesn't decide to play golf and me she goes like, golf not my 492 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:43.159 thing, That's okay. I just want her to not choose golf for other 493 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:45.880 reasons. She wants to do other things, but not for that reason. 494 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.719 Wait, was your dad a lefty playing with right handed clubs? Yeah, 495 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.800 my dad is pretty as pretty close to ambidextrious as you can get. But 496 00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.400 yeah, he's and he still plays righting yep. Mmmm, but he's left 497 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.480 handed naturally. No, so he had the right handed clubs, because the 498 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.679 way you said that he had right handed clubs, it was like, wait, 499 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:14.320 but he's not. So you got it exactly from him. Explain the 500 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:19.360 difference between you know, you see range rats out there. You see people 501 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.760 who are like getting two large buckets. So I'm gonna be out here for 502 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.320 hours? Oh yeah, oh yeah? Really is that gonna improve your game? 503 00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.920 What's that gonna do? Is that gonna that's gonna just solidify bad habits? 504 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:36.960 Probably? But the difference between what a range rat does of just striking 505 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.920 the ball over and over and scooping hit and scooping hit and scooping hit versus 506 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.440 playing golf, how do you explain that? How do you teach that? 507 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.400 Okay, So, first of all, I do believe that there's a place 508 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.199 in a space for range work, right, because sometimes we're learning we call 509 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.159 it block right, we're block learning right. We've gotta get this skill and 510 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.639 hone the skill, and there's sometimes you just need to hit a few. 511 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.440 But just as you said, grabbing the you know, double fisting on the 512 00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:07.320 on the buckets and going at it's it's the definition of insanity, right, 513 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.119 doing the same thing over and over expecting something different, right, doesn't work 514 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.639 like that. So I tell people and I encourage I can't tell people everything, 515 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.960 but I encourage them to think of things this way. When you're out 516 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:24.800 on the course, that's really where you can identify where unique you know to 517 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.400 work on development, and it's the application of it. After all, we 518 00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.239 play golf on the course. You know, sometimes people treat the golf as 519 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.039 this formal place, like I've got to have everything in order to then go 520 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:38.880 on to the course. And that's just never going to be the case. 521 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.079 Where all works in progress when it comes to our game. But the more 522 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:49.000 that's reinforced, it also instills kind of this fearing people like, well, 523 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.559 I'm not ready for the course, right, I'm not ready for the course. 524 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:52.840 I'm not ready to do this on the course. As long as you 525 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.840 understand how to maintain pace of play and good at it, could the course 526 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.599 is for you, right, which goes into why it's so important to help 527 00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.440 you know, early stage golfers to understand good etiquette and pace of play because 528 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.800 you can be a golfer of any experience level and get out on the course 529 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.480 as long as you understand we can't quite hold things up and and and know 530 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:17.800 when to say when right. But I encourage new golfers to get on the 531 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.519 course to get more comfortable and develop confidence. And also you'll be able to 532 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:27.920 see how things work, how they are, how the dots connect, right, 533 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.679 because I can help you work on you know, there you're working with 534 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.599 your driver on the range. I can help you work with your irons and 535 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.039 your hybrids and all the things on the on the range. But it's on 536 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.440 the course when you're going to see how they come together. How you may 537 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.199 use and your seven iron here, but you may use you know, your 538 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:50.599 seven hybrid in this instance. I can only explain so much in this sterile 539 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.599 laboratory, right. It's the application into the real world that makes the difference. 540 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.360 One of the things on your website talked about how you like to identify 541 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:06.800 and address weaknesses, which I have found that a lot of golfers will not 542 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:10.159 look back at the scorecard or if they have a phone that they're using while 543 00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:15.360 they're on the course that shows them with their shots and things that they don't 544 00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:21.320 identify what's not working, you know, like this twenty four handicap was like, 545 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.800 I can hit anything I want, but boy, I'm terrible around the 546 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:29.280 greens. So why aren't you working on that? How do you help people 547 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:36.320 understand that? It? Don't just work on what's working if you want lower 548 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.800 scores, if that's your goal, you know, I mean, we all 549 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.599 have fun, but if your goal is to play better golf, you really 550 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:49.199 have to understand how to identify your weaknesses correct. What gets measured gets improved. 551 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.760 Right, It's as simple as that. Right. If I don't know, 552 00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:59.199 if I have no idea that wow, like, oh wow, I 553 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:06.079 had thirty four puts in this nine whole round. H you got to know 554 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.599 the numbers, I mean, and I don't attach and I encourage people not 555 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.920 to attach a value to the number, right, a judgment to the number. 556 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:19.360 Right, The facts are the facts, right, as people would say, 557 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.199 and you know, get out of your feelings. Right, It's okay, 558 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.480 it's just a number. But now that we know where we stand, 559 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.800 we can work on creating the trend in the direction of your choosing right, 560 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:32.960 which is typically a lower score. Right, we can understand where we are 561 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.480 and build upon that. Right, if you don't know with confidence that you 562 00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.960 can make, you know, eight out of ten putch from three feet around 563 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.639 the whole, you're gonna make your decision. I mean, and I'm just 564 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:51.000 working the way back. You're gonna your decision making is going to be skewed 565 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:55.199 and probably poor. Frankly, right, if I don't know what I don't 566 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.840 know, it's okay. Again, people get I think that people get hung 567 00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:04.960 up on attaching a value to a number, where I encourage people to understand 568 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:07.400 your numbers so that you can build upon that. Because I'm a big believer 569 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:14.559 in staring with your strengths, but understand that your challenging areas, your weaknesses, 570 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.039 they will go one way or the other, right, so you can 571 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:24.880 put some time in them. Right, And that's okay as a golfer, 572 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.039 not a golf instructor, but as a golfer, it's the best advice you've 573 00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:38.400 ever received. Mind your business. And that means like I don't when I'm 574 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.519 playing, like you know, if I'm seriously playing and I'm ready to score 575 00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.880 and that type of thing, I'm aware of what's going on around me. 576 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.800 But I'm I'm not dialed into you, right, I'm dialed into me because 577 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:58.159 making great shots across eighteen holes that takes some concentration and focus right, and 578 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:04.079 the reality he is as a golf professional when you're playing, there are very 579 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:08.159 few instances where you get to just play right because while I may take off 580 00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:16.119 my coaching had most of the time when you're playing with people that that it'll 581 00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.639 slip in. Even with your best of friends, it'll slip in, like 582 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.599 I don't know why I'm slicing gretit. Did you see that? No? 583 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.400 I didn't, you know, And you know you kind of have to draw 584 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.800 that line because you do. It's it's my nature. If I'm if I'm 585 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.840 leaning, you know, and I'm waiting on my turn and I'm in the 586 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.440 fairway and I see you, I know exactly for the most part why that 587 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.199 happened. I have to learn to turn that off. So for me, 588 00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:49.320 it's really about concentration and focus and minding my own business. That is phenomenal 589 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.159 advice, because oh, I mean, the worst thing you can possibly do, 590 00:43:53.639 --> 00:44:00.440 especially with somebody you're related to, a spouse, a child, is 591 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.840 give on course advice, don't boy. Yeah, you know, like when 592 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.000 I when I it comes out that I do this podcast, and I'm like, 593 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:13.360 hey, I'm not an instructor or anything like, oh, but can 594 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.559 you give me an advice? No, I don't do that. Yeah, 595 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.719 but maybe during the round, I'll say, do you mind if I make 596 00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:28.440 an observation? Right? Sure? Okay, I mean if you know, 597 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:34.760 and it won't be on mechanics either. Yeah, you can kind of escape 598 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.119 it. It's a trick. I mean, it is a tricky thing. 599 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.639 People like, are you like the cruel thing? I guess I won't say 600 00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.639 cruel, but they like, they know you saw it, you know. 601 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.840 I mean I'm standing there and they're like, I know, you know it. 602 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:51.360 I did see the shot. Well what am I doing wrong? I 603 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.679 mean they and they know that I know the answer. I go like, 604 00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:59.480 let's talk about it over, you know, let's talk about but we've got 605 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.920 seven whole to go. Gretta, Yeah, right, but we can't fix 606 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:06.000 it right now. Even if I told you what it was, you wouldn't 607 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.000 be able to fix it. It would only be in your head. It's 608 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.440 the rabbit hole, it's the drain, whatever you wanna call it. The 609 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:16.199 minute, I go like, look, so okay, we've got what forget. 610 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:22.920 I said that I've learned you know, it happens right now. So 611 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:28.159 that is the thing, Just minding my own business and staying in my lane 612 00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.920 and just focusing on me, just even in a purely if I'm playing amongst 613 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:38.119 my peers my lane, I don't I could. I can put the blinders 614 00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.320 on and that's it. So with that then I play my best. I'm 615 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:45.559 not worried about what you did, what I did. I'm gonna play the 616 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:49.000 course the way that it works best for me. Was shots of working for 617 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.119 me today, so on and so forth, and that's it. Where do 618 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:57.280 you give golf lessons? I teach. It's Steell Canyon golf Course and stands 619 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:02.599 and Sandy Springs wretches right just north of Atlanta, still full of county, 620 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.320 right next to the city Sandy Springs. And do you do remote lessons as 621 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:14.079 well? I do? I absolutely do. How can people get in touch 622 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.760 with you? You can find me. You can find me on all of 623 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:21.840 the socials, as they say at doctor Gretigolf d R g R E T 624 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.119 A g O LF. You can find me on my website, doctor Gretigolf 625 00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:31.039 dot com and yeah, that covers it all. You'll find me there and 626 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:36.800 your podcast, The Smart golf. That that part two, Yes, that 627 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.000 part two. It was so much fun. I really hope we can do 628 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:45.239 this multiple times because that would be my grain a lot and really enjoyed it. 629 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.119 Thank you so much, so much, thank you, thank you. 630 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.239 Well. I'm happy to reward the Joanna and I are now fully recovered from 631 00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:59.480 COVID this time, and I'm back to walking a full eighteen holes again. 632 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.280 It wasn't easy, but I've made it now. Since we were last together, 633 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.920 I've played twice. The first was at one of my all time favorite 634 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:14.639 golf courses, and that's TPC Harding Park in San Francisco. Now, strangely 635 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.280 it's been four years since I last played there, but I was still battling 636 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.000 fatigue of COVID during this round and only walked the front nine, had to 637 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.840 ride the back, but still played pretty well, shooting forty one forty one. 638 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:32.360 And the crazy thing my last twenty rounds, my highest score is eighty 639 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.280 six, my lowest score is seventy six, So I'm my consistency right now 640 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.800 is better than it's ever been and it really does have everything to do with 641 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.920 these interviews that I do on the podcast. But here's my favorite part about 642 00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.679 the story of playing Harding Park. The TPC Harding Park, especially holes eleven 643 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.880 and twelve in San Francisco, are directly across from the dorm I lived in 644 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:02.559 when I attended San Francisco State University in the mid nineteen seventies. And two 645 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.159 of my playing partners last week have been friends since we worked on that college 646 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.599 radio station together. They were actually supposed to be three of us, but 647 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.679 one had to postpone and then my other round this weekend. What an outrageous 648 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:23.000 round I had. You gotta check this one out. Two triples, one 649 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:28.360 double, one bogey, one birdie, and those two were back to back 650 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:35.480 on numbers two and three and then thirteen pars which included a couple of nice 651 00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.280 saves and thirty four total puts. And as we discussed with doctor Grat on 652 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.239 this episode, if you aren't paying attention to some of those basic stats, 653 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.639 not really sure what aspect of your game you need to improve. So fairways, 654 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:53.599 greens in regulation, total puts, length of your first puts, those 655 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.760 are all important things to be looking at. And I'm using our costs now 656 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:02.039 on my clubs, and I look back at the round and like, okay, 657 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.199 where did I screw up this week? How can I improve? It's 658 00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:09.960 a good way to do it, So just keep track of those stats. 659 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.199 And I really look forward to getting doctor Gretta back on the show, as 660 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.159 her insights, even those beyond golf, are pretty compelling. Again, her 661 00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:24.360 podcast is called Smart Golfer. Find out more at doctor Greta Goolf dot com, 662 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.719 Dr Grta Golf, Doctor Greta Goolf dot com. Remember our conversation with 663 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:36.440 Jerome Ruffin, the young man who created a video channel called from Scratch to 664 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:43.199 Scratch that documents his quest to become a scratch golfer. I hope that I 665 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:47.039 wasn't too condescending about his naivete about the game. But I continue to watch 666 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.199 his videos, not because of the train wreck that is his progress, but 667 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.679 mainly due to the people he's been working with to improve his game. The 668 00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.239 last two videos I watched have featured doctor Rick Sesson House, who's been on 669 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:05.559 Golf Smarter episodes eight hundred six, eight hundred and sixty three and will be 670 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.159 back. And you may remember he was Colin Morricawa's coach from when Colin was 671 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:14.840 a little boy all the way through winning two majors. Well Rick's instruction is 672 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:20.519 really worth the price of admission alone because he's such a great teacher of more 673 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:27.280 than just the golf swing, and his patience is admirable. Shout out this 674 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.920 week to Golf Smarter Ambassador Robbie Smith from Lake City, Minnesota. Hey, 675 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:35.639 Robbie, thank you tell all your friends that you are now a Golf Smarter 676 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.800 Ambassador and that you're on the podcast now. 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