1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,519 If you don't know with confidence that you can make eight out of ten puts 2 00:00:06,639 --> 00:00:10,480 from three feet around the whole, your decision making is going to be skewed 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,480 and probably poor. Frankly, I'm a big believer in soaring with your strengths, 4 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:18,760 but understand that the facts are the facts. If I have no idea 5 00:00:18,879 --> 00:00:22,519 that, wow, I had thirty four puts in this nine hole round, 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,640 it's just a number. But now that we know where we stand, we 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,600 can work on creating the trend in the direction of your choosing, which is 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,520 typically a lower score. What gets measured gets improved. It's as simple as 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,039 that. Hi, this is Robbie Smith from Lake City, Minnesota, and 10 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:44,000 I play at the Jewel Golf Course. This is Golf smarterst Episode number nine 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,079 hundred and nine. What gets measured gets improved, It's as simple as that. 12 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:55,240 With business and golf coach doctor Greta Anderson, this is Golf Smarter, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,000 sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your 14 00:01:00,039 --> 00:01:04,680 score and raise your golf I kid, here's your host, Fred Green. 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Pretta, Hello here, I'm glad to 16 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:17,400 have you here. I love having podcasters on because I know you can talk, 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,920 Yes, I can do that, but a podcaster with a show called 18 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:23,799 The Smart Golfer, it's like, I gotta find this one out. Yeah 19 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:26,959 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Well, yes, 20 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:30,359 we're going it's gonna be fun looking forward to it. Thanks for having 21 00:01:30,359 --> 00:01:34,280 me again, Yeah, of course. Let's let's start with your podcast, 22 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,760 why you started doing it, and how you came up with the name The 23 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:42,439 Smart Golfer, because we're kind of sympatico here, right, Well, I 24 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:48,719 realize that I can't talk, but one of the one of the things that 25 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:53,439 I really value is the depth of a good answer, right. You know, 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,040 we would need to talk as much as we need to talk, but 27 00:01:57,159 --> 00:02:00,799 sometimes the answer might not be a two minute if it Sometimes it might require 28 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,040 a little bit more depth. And so I was looking for a place in 29 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,000 a space to do that because frankly, that's what a lot of people were 30 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:10,840 asking me for. They were saying, we would love to have a place 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,000 where we can hear those as as a lot of my clients will call those 32 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:20,280 doctor Gretai isms, right, and so it kind of began from their part 33 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,759 one. And then secondly, in terms of the name, I find that 34 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:29,439 in many of my clients when we'll probably talk about this as we go on 35 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:35,599 in our conversation here, but they come with such an amazing breadth of skills 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,840 and attributes as humans, right, but when it comes to golf, they 37 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,199 may feel a little bit intimidated or inadequate in some ways. And I just 38 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,560 always found that to be unfortunate but correctible, if you will. But one 39 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:53,680 of the things that I encourage people with is that you can always become a 40 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:55,840 smart golfer. You have the opportunity to do that. Even if you aren't 41 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,639 blessed with the greatest of athleticism and strange and distance on the off the tea 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,439 and all those things, you can be a smart golfer. Hence the name 43 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:12,759 a Smart Golfer podcasts. And it was the reasoning for me to come at 44 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,159 in this direction was because I always believe that if you were a smart golfer, 45 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:20,240 you can lower your scores a lot quicker than if you're just working on 46 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,840 your mechanics. I would agree, absolutely, and that is exactly what I'm 47 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,439 what I'm trying to convey to them when I say that, like, you 48 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,719 can be a smart golfer, smart golf is about playing golf, what strokes 49 00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:34,800 and shots are best for you, not for her, not for him. 50 00:03:34,879 --> 00:03:38,240 And a lot of golfers, as you well know, fall prey to this, 51 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,159 like you know, staggering. But getting them out of that habit before 52 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,479 it even becomes a habit, and empowering them to know that I'm a smart 53 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:52,479 golfer goes a long way, goes a long way. Isn't it amazing how 54 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,560 people will take the advice of their playing partners more frequently than they'll take the 55 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:03,240 advice of a golfing stucker. It's it's got to be frustrating for you. 56 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:10,199 Well, it's it's it's kind of like it's kind of like parenting in a 57 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,719 way. That's kind of the only the analogy that I can talk Abou'm not 58 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,639 a parent, I don't have, you know, but I was raised by 59 00:04:15,639 --> 00:04:17,920 a good set of a great set of parents, and so I know sometimes 60 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,279 they would be going, like, what is this little girl doing. They're 61 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 gonna I need to kind of fall and scrape the knee, if you will, 62 00:04:26,519 --> 00:04:30,160 to learn the lesson, And so sometimes it's like that, you know, 63 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,839 they kind of have to just figure out like, well, I was 64 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,439 out there and I don't know why I listened to her. Well, we've 65 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:40,319 kind of talked about this, and a lot of that awesome comes with understanding 66 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:44,120 being smart, right, being a smart golfer, understanding all that goes into 67 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:48,199 making the right decisions out there. Once they once they're equipped with that knowledge, 68 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 you're not worried about what club Susie's using, you know, to get 69 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,439 over the pond. You're gonna understand what you need to what you club you 70 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,319 need to use, or whatever the case may be. And but but that 71 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,480 the peer pressure is real out there on those on those fairways, as we 72 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:10,759 like to say, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, So tell me about your LPGA 73 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,360 journey. How you I mean, you're a PhD, you're you're an accomplished 74 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:23,879 LPGA instructor, but you're also an LPGA instructor for instructors. Correct correct, 75 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:30,120 correct, Yes, busy, very busy and yes, very important, Yes, 76 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,920 yes, very business. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. 77 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,079 Yeah, So, as you know my as as you observed, my background 78 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,160 is in education and research, and so I really though I've done many things 79 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,920 and continue to do many things in my life and my career, I've always 80 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,639 if you, if you asked me to define myself, I'll probably revert to 81 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,199 education. As my mom has said forever, even when I was kind of 82 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:00,519 in denial, of not denial, but I I really hadn't given any much 83 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:03,560 thought. She said. I would always say, Gretta, if you like 84 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,959 doing it, you're gonna end up teaching it. And I would go, 85 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:09,240 no, Mom, no, no, no, no, and then I 86 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,600 and then I think one day she started rattling off all these things over the 87 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,759 years, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 88 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,360 So it's really how it's it's the great expression of myself when I have the 89 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:26,920 skill and the and the passion to help people learn to do things really well. 90 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:30,600 And in terms of golf, what I began to see very clearly is 91 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:36,079 that and understand even as a golfer, that's as as we work hard to 92 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,399 grow the game and diversify and make it more welcoming, education is got to 93 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:46,519 be a key component of that. You know, golf isn't necessarily the easiest 94 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:50,240 thing to learn, but one of the one of the big barriers to it 95 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,360 is is that it challenges in learning right, and the educational process in golf 96 00:06:55,399 --> 00:07:00,360 has been pretty traditional for a mighty long time that some barriers. So if 97 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,360 we can help too, if you will make that a bit more contemporary, 98 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:12,079 more reflective of society. When people see somebody like them, they can know 99 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,240 they can be somebody like them. And so my great hope has always been 100 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:20,480 that down the road, you know, golf will be the proverbial rainbow in 101 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,439 terms of players, instruction, all of that. But right now there are 102 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:30,439 a few issues inside the educational process that could use a little bit smoothing out. 103 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,959 So my choice and decision was to use my expertise as a researcher and 104 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:41,759 as an educator to help improve and innovate the landscape. And so the LPGA, 105 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:45,399 being you know, all about teaching and education and golf, it was 106 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:49,600 just kind of the perfect landing spot. Why golf, I mean, you 107 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,000 have I love golf, you know, coming coming through with this education that 108 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,839 you have and the encouragement that you have. Ye, why what is it 109 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:01,279 the drew to golf? Do I love? Well? First of all, 110 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:07,839 I love golf. It's it's super fun. And I just understood, like, 111 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:09,720 I'm a very resilient kind of person like and I'm and I can be 112 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:15,240 pretty stubborn in a good way, right, but particularly when it comes to 113 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:18,560 sport. I have pretty thick skin. So you could tell me you see 114 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,839 no talent in this and that, and I'll go like, okay, and 115 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:24,720 I'm gonna prove you wrong. I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna prove 116 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,360 you wrong. And I found that to be the case, not for myself, 117 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,440 but for others in golf, like they weren't having really great experiences as 118 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,159 they sought instruction and you know, kind of trying to become a part of 119 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,080 the golf global community, if you will. And so for me, that 120 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:48,840 similar thing happened, which is kind of what kind of flipped the switch for 121 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:54,120 me and made a decision. I played tennis. I played competitive tennis from 122 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,240 the time I was a small girl all the way up into my early thirties. 123 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,600 But I had a very significant hand in his injury, which essentially kind 124 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,720 of ended that career. Which I'm a jock, but you know, I 125 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,360 love sports, and so I really had to kind of figure out what I 126 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,600 was going to do with this athletic energy. I mean, I'm gonna work 127 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,759 and do all those things, but I'm an athlete and I enjoy that kind 128 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:22,399 of thing. So I was already playing a lot of golf at that point, 129 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,600 and so I was kind of had a friend who was she was learning, 130 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,639 and so we would play and essentially I was basically giving playing lessons. 131 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:31,960 I just really hadn't thought of it that way. And she said, you 132 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,840 know, you're pretty good at this. You teach everything else, Greta, 133 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,080 why don't you like think about teaching. And I'm like, yeah, it 134 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:43,200 seems like a lot, you know, this so called thing. I'm just 135 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,399 you know, so long. On the short, I decided to go to 136 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,879 the PGA show, you know, kind of sniff around and everything. I 137 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,840 ended up, you know, I'll find my way, you know, to 138 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,279 to I'm a curious girl like that. I will find my way. And 139 00:09:56,279 --> 00:10:01,000 I ended up in conversation with a few people at the time. I believe 140 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:07,200 she was might have been the national secretary Woman dev Vangelo Master Professional, and 141 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,720 in dialogue we began talking and she said, you know, you should kind 142 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,200 of think about joining the LPG. And I'm going like, oh, that 143 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,879 seems like a lot of work. I've kind of got the Oh. By 144 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:20,120 the way, I owned a manufacturing company at the time, and I'm like, 145 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,799 I kind of have this job, you know, over here being the 146 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:28,240 CEO of this company. We'll think about it. And so she's like, 147 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,440 I'm telling you you need to come on over here. Fast forward another year 148 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,840 I'm back. She's like, well, something brought you back, and I'm 149 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,559 like, yeah, I'm kind of thinking about it and everything like that. 150 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:45,519 So I think another year might have gone. But this was a long process 151 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,679 for me in that regard. The third year, she said, look, 152 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,480 we need you here for a variety of reasons. You you you fit right, 153 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,200 you fit and you have you can bring some unique value. And also 154 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,480 we're just growing, we're growing the game, so you need to come ahead 155 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,720 and do this. So long the short I jumped in began the process, 156 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,840 and I think it might have been probably eight or ten months later. I 157 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,600 show up at you show up for level one education and who's at the front 158 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:16,120 of the classroom? Depth, And so my journey began. And so once 159 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:20,720 I jumped in, I was all in and so here we are. You 160 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:22,559 know, that's I don't have to do have due too many things. And 161 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,039 once I got in, I just I loved it and it just kind of 162 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,240 you know the way life, the cycle of life and business works. I 163 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:37,159 was actually selling that business and manufacturing business and had a little time on my 164 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,759 hands, and I thought about what did I want my next entrepreneurial endeavor to 165 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,320 look like? And I wanted it to be of service, and so I 166 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,919 thought, well, I know how to build I how to build businesses, 167 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:54,399 and let's build one which will be very fun, will serve a lot of 168 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,679 people, and it could do a lot of good in growing something that I 169 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,240 was really growing to fall in love with, which was off. And here 170 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,200 we are, here we are just in time to take a commercial break. 171 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:15,360 We'll right back at what age did you start playing golf? When did you 172 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,240 get introduced? Is this a family thing or is you just the jock? 173 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:26,200 I am the jock, but my entire family plays golf. Ah okay, 174 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:30,559 they play way more golf than I do now at the time. So let 175 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,039 me tell your question, was golf instructor? Golf instructors don't play golf? 176 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:37,759 No, that's what if people are like you don't, when do you play 177 00:12:37,799 --> 00:12:41,320 golf? I go like like never, Like I'm around it all the time, 178 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,480 right all the time. And you know most golf instructors, you know, 179 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:48,120 people will say like, well, you must be playing now, I'm 180 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:52,480 not playing rounds. I hit every shot in the in the in the book 181 00:12:52,799 --> 00:12:58,159 every day. So my game stays, my shot making stays reasonably be sharp. 182 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,559 But we know that that's not necessarily the makings of and if you know 183 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,039 a low's going round, you know, so I get around very well. 184 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,559 I just don't play on a whole lot, right, yeah, right, 185 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:16,600 right, so yeah, but yeah, you mentioned the barriers that were there, 186 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:22,960 and I have to believe that being an African American woman in the golf 187 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:31,519 industry. The barriers are tall, the barriers are strong. How how does 188 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,960 that affect you and your community? You're you're exactly right, right, You're 189 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,039 exactly right. They are they are tall, and they can be wide, 190 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:48,679 and for many they seem insurmountable. And so I always viewed myself as an 191 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:54,200 opportunity to help, you know, kind of bring those down and shrink them 192 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,960 and and shorten them, right, And I know that that's that's gonna be 193 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,840 a lengthy process because they didn't pop up overnight, right, But we have 194 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:07,600 to you know, be consistent and chipping away at them and also helping to 195 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,200 create the systems that will facilitate bringing those down. And again, that's just 196 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,200 kind of being systematic and systemic in that regard, but creating awareness on a 197 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:22,759 lot of things that people may not understand, our hindrances to participation, involvement, 198 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:28,480 getting involved, whether that's playing or even seeing yourself with a career in 199 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:33,720 golf. Right, it's those small little things that because golf doesn't you know, 200 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,200 it's not a silo, right, It's part of society. So there 201 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:43,120 are things that factor into whether or not, you know, for examples, 202 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:50,919 pursuit can pursuit of your professional your professional credential. Well, it's not inexpensive, 203 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:56,279 it's not not time consuming. You know, you have to It's not 204 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,960 like some things where you can just get a certificate, you know, take 205 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,039 a test and certified. It's not like that. It's a very involved process. 206 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:09,879 So if you're coming from an economically disadvantaged background already, you probably don't 207 00:15:09,919 --> 00:15:13,720 have a spare fifteen thousand dollars sitting on, you know, in the bank 208 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,639 with weeks. You know, it's a little bit different now as we've migrated 209 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,720 and brought some of the educational programming online. But like for example, when 210 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,320 I went through I mean you went away, I would fly fly out to 211 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,679 California or Arizona or whatever the case may be be there, which means you're 212 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,360 not working. So these types of things make it very difficult and challenging for 213 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,320 people who may be coming from, you know, a different life experience to 214 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 just say like, I want to do that, because even with the best 215 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:48,159 of intentions can't make it happen. And these are non negotiables to getting into 216 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:56,360 the teaching profession as a fully credential teacher. Yeah, and being in Atlanta 217 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,759 where the barriers are still great. Yeah, you have to be a fresh 218 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:11,240 face that has the ability to communicate with a community that wants this instruction. 219 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:17,639 You know it is searching it out and you make it so much easier. 220 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,039 You're exactly right, which is one of the great I view it as an 221 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:30,279 amazing opportunity. But I'm never it never ceases to amaze me the amazing people 222 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:33,600 who come onto my lesson tee and tell me like I've been looking for you, 223 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:40,879 Oh it right, it's it's it's you know, it's it's just amazing. 224 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:44,759 I love my job in that for so many reasons. But that's one 225 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:49,000 of the great great ones that people say like Okay, I'm I'm in now, 226 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,679 Like it's not that they it's not that they can't have an amazing experience 227 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:57,360 with someone who doesn't look like them. But golf is tough. Mean golf, 228 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,320 you know, I mean golf can be tough, you know, for 229 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:04,480 just the engagement involvement, the little things. Hey, showing up at a 230 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:07,079 parking lot, at the place you've never been. When you walk into the 231 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:11,400 clubhouse, someone may be looking like at you, like you might not belong 232 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,599 here, like, yeah, can I help you? Yeah? Yeah, 233 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,559 right, Like, Hey, I'm just walking in. I'm looking for the 234 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:19,839 bathroom. I'm not trying to you know, steal anything or you know, 235 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,240 it's just for something where you're gonna be paying. People go like, hey, 236 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:30,160 I don't need that hassle. And I want people to, you know, 237 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:33,920 to to know that, yeah, every every now and then, you're 238 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,599 gonna run into somebody who's just you know or whatever. We won't use bad 239 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:41,640 words here, but you know that might happen, but I want you to 240 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,119 know that you belong here. And so on my lesson team, most of 241 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,000 my students, you know, they may not some of'em remember it very 242 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:53,799 explicitly, but I always start, particularly for new golfers coming, I always 243 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:57,480 tell them I'm excited to have you here. Working with me today, but 244 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:03,000 I'm more excited to have you in golf. Welcome to golf. You belong 245 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,240 here, right, and we are glad to have you. Intentionality it matters, 246 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:15,279 yeah, yeah, even in your game matters. Yeah, And intentionally 247 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,599 it matters. But the choice that you know you could do do a million 248 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,559 things, and you've taken the step even though you're you're you're nervous. I 249 00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,079 mean, these are you know, I teach a lot of women. I 250 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:30,200 teach predominantly women, though I teach gentlemen. But I'm always amazed, like 251 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,240 these are like C suite executives. You when when I ask them what they 252 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:37,599 do, you know, they may give me like, you know, oh, 253 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,160 I'm just an attorney. And then later I find I'm like, you're 254 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,359 like, not just an attorney or whatever the case may be. But they 255 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,519 come and they can literally be shaking in their poor little golf shoes, and 256 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:52,200 I'm colle it's just golf. They're like, I know, but it's golf, 257 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,279 and I want I want to free them of that. Yeah, well 258 00:18:56,319 --> 00:19:02,759 thank you for doing that. Thank you my pleasure. Yeah, and do 259 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:07,839 you so you said you prefer you'll teach men and or women, But you 260 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,319 prefer having women and do you prefer women who are new to the game or 261 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,680 just starting or have or seasoned? What is you know? I love teaching 262 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,480 all golfers, you know, obviously teaching golfers at different stages of the journey. 263 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:26,440 Are you know you come with unique circumstances. I love you know, 264 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:30,880 I have you know, it's you know, several of my clients that are 265 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,920 you know, the low digit no no digit handicappers as I like to call 266 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,720 them. Yeah, they're gentlemen who've been playing, and I have a couple 267 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,480 of ladies, but you know, they skew toward toward the men. But 268 00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:47,200 those lessons are always fun because they're so they're they're just different, right, 269 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,920 They're conversational, they're more strategic. There may be some technical things, but 270 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,039 oftentimes it's just a kind of a different They're in a different developmental stage. 271 00:19:55,079 --> 00:20:00,640 So I enjoy those just as much. I will say that the ladies have 272 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:04,880 found me because when I began, I really didn't say clearly who I was 273 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,359 going to teach. I just kind of wanted to see who I would resonate 274 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:14,000 with. Now I've talked about my sports and that type of thing for many 275 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,359 I'm a researcher, and for many years when I was in the corporate world 276 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:26,559 and even after that, I worked in the luxury hospitality vertical. So I 277 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,480 viewed things like golf. Let's be real, nobody's going to die if they 278 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,839 don't play golf. I mean sort of kind of, but you know what 279 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,079 I mean. It's not like food or shelter, and so I always view 280 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,920 but golf, it will kill you, it definitely will. But I view 281 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:49,200 like my offering, my service, as as I was taught to view a 282 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:53,799 luxury experience. When you work in the hotel in hospitality environment and in the 283 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 you know, five star hotels and that type of thing, as even as 284 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,480 in the research arm you learned that this is about service because at the end 285 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,799 of the day, this you know, four hundred and fifty square foot room 286 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:08,799 at the Holiday End is the same as this four hundred fifty square foot room 287 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:11,960 at the Mandarin. It's just that we've chosen to put some you know, 288 00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:15,839 some higher level mattresses and that type of thing. But it's it's more than 289 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:22,039 anything. It's the service. So everything for me is about the service. 290 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:26,480 And with that, women are just drawn to it. Right, it doesn't 291 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:30,240 have to be complicated, but it's simple. It's streamline. It's service, 292 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,920 and I'm here to serve you. It's hospitality. I'm instruction, but it's 293 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,319 hospitality. Yes it is, Yes, it is. Let's take another break. 294 00:21:38,319 --> 00:21:41,079 We'll be right back. I want to talk to you about doing business 295 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:52,440 on the golf course. Back, Greta, you have a really unique perspective 296 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,880 in the sense that so many of the golf instructors I talked to, they're 297 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,119 like, you know, I loved playing as a kid and I thought, 298 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,240 gee, I want to do this for the rest of my life. And 299 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:04,319 golf is their life, and you know, from start to end, and 300 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,920 as we kind of laughed at about earlier, they're shocked to find out that 301 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,039 they don't have time to play golf. Once they become an instruct that's their 302 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,960 business. And they were never really chained trained in having a business. Sure, 303 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,960 but you were in the corporate world. You've had your own company. 304 00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:30,960 How do you approach doing business on the golf course or do you instruct people 305 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:37,480 on doing business on the golf course. I'm passionate about instructing people and helping 306 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:42,279 them to understand what a valuable too the golf course is it's a business tool. 307 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:48,079 It's a business skill when it's a business tool. Yeah, So many 308 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,759 conversations are happening on the golf course, you know, as I would often 309 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,240 tell you know, people I'm speaking to, especially my clients, to go 310 00:22:57,319 --> 00:23:03,119 like so on Wednesday afternoons, I teach pretty late. You know, I 311 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,480 started later, but I teach pretty late, and I will tell them on 312 00:23:07,559 --> 00:23:11,160 Wednesdays, I have to get here earlier than I would because I can't find 313 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,480 a parking spot. And so all that to say, it's because everybody's at 314 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:25,759 the office, they're doing business. Now, if you aren't getting invited to 315 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,599 the golf course, you're probably missing out on some of the business because after 316 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,200 all, particularly if you're not just should say particularly. But in the corporate 317 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,720 world, we know that ninety percent of fortune five hundred leadership played golf. 318 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,839 We know that, and we know that that increases with every level fortune one 319 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,680 hundred, fortune fifty, so on and so forth. We also know that 320 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,759 leadership, you know, there's the head and its as the body moves, 321 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:55,599 so goes to tail, right, So it trickles down. The culture of 322 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,200 golf trickles down. So it's like a language. I have not develop my 323 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:06,079 multi lingual skills very well. But let's just say I had a series of 324 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,119 business associates and colleagues and they were fluent in let's say French, and they 325 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,960 were gonna go out and they were gonna have an amazing dinner at a great 326 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,799 French restaurant and be in full flight using their their French and their Franco skills 327 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:23,839 and all that type of thing. I don't get much pass probably vous France, 328 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,039 so they're probably not gonna invite Greta, right. Yeah, doesn't mean 329 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,200 they don't like me, doesn't mean they don't think I'm competent, doesn't mean 330 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,240 they don't respect me. But I don't have anything to bring to the table. 331 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:40,680 I won't even know that they went out for the French dinner. They 332 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,119 were like, well, we didn't tell you cause you don't speak French and 333 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,839 we know you aren't really crazy about French food. So it's the same thing 334 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,960 that's happening when when people know that you don't play golf, you got familiar 335 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,480 with golf, you' you don't know it. Why would I tell you we're 336 00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,720 going to tee off and play a quick nine and talk about a few things 337 00:24:56,759 --> 00:25:03,519 on Friday afternoon. If I know you don't know anything about golf, m 338 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:10,960 and thus you you're missing the meeting. Yeah, with a mess on it 339 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:18,720 meetings. Yeah, So uh, is it doing business on the golf course 340 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,680 a smart thing? Is that the place to do business or is it more 341 00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:27,279 a place to learn if you want to do business with that person? I 342 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:33,720 think it's both. I think that it's important to It's a great place for 343 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:37,799 character, right, character revealing. It's it's the big one, right, 344 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,640 it's it's it will tell a lot about each of us, whether how we 345 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:48,119 handle ourselves throughout that round. So at that point I've now identified, Okay, 346 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,440 we could do a business. Right, it can work, and it 347 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:59,599 becomes a good place to continue doing business because we know that golf can foster 348 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:03,839 really relationships, right, It's it's a common ground. We can be very 349 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,160 you know, on opposite end of the spectrum on many things, but on 350 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,680 the golf course, for whatever reason, things can come together. Moreover, 351 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:18,359 most people who are in the positions of decision making value their time and only 352 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,880 have so much time. But golfers are going to make time for that golf, 353 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,599 right, So in many instances, where would I have an opportunity to 354 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:33,039 have an ongoing conversation with someone for two hours, three hours, four hours. 355 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:37,519 Not many places except the golf course. We can get a lot done 356 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,640 in a round. Yeah, and you can learn a lot about the person, 357 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,440 that's right, that's right. Right. I'm much more inclined to relax 358 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,400 and let you see my full self because it's got to happen as during the 359 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,839 round of golf, but it's accelerated on the golf course versus you know, 360 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,599 let's meet at the office or meet for a drink or whatever the case, 361 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,319 maybe it'll happen on the golf course. Right. So when you have these 362 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,720 new these beginner golfers, these new golfers and from all these different places in 363 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,920 the world they come from, is that part of your instruction about you know, 364 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:22,759 the etiquette, the sensitivity of what golf is. Because we can blow 365 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,799 that off and say, yeah, it's not that important, but when you're 366 00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,440 out there and you're playing on a regular basis or you're playing with strangers, 367 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:37,440 that's the kind of thing that can really create a lot of talk behind your 368 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,400 back, absolutely, which is that you're exactly right. So let's just say 369 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,880 for my class golf one oh one I call it, let's let's swing right 370 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,079 in that. Yes, we're gonna learn how to swing. We're gonna get 371 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,039 that ball flying high, fast and farm right. We're gonna get work on 372 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,759 that. But all of those pieces that you just mentioned at at our little 373 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:02,039 graduation ceremony, you are we have not touched on that. You are going 374 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,160 to understand all of those things because those are the big barriers too. I 375 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:10,960 found and I learned that and kind of my trajectory of teaching that hold a 376 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,279 lot of people back, particularly the women to an extent. A lot of 377 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,359 ladies are wired a bit differently. I might know how to hit the ball, 378 00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:19,640 but there's a bunch of other stuff I'm not sure about. So guess 379 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480 what. Yeah, I'm not going to go out there until I'm pretty sure 380 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,119 I know how to handle myself. I know where to stay, and I 381 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,559 know when I should talk when not to talk. Otherwise, I'm like, 382 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640 you're taking lessons and you've learned how to hit a ball, but you didn't 383 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:38,680 learn how to play golf. There's a difference. There's a big Defen's the 384 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,359 difference. Yeah, And that's something that I talk about a lot. It's 385 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,960 like I've played with a guy who told me I can change my swing anytime 386 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,480 I need, so if you see something, just let me know. I'm 387 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,559 like, what's your index? You know, I'm a twenty four. It's 388 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,960 like, yeah, I don't think you can. But the guy talked non 389 00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:00,480 stopped and was like yeah, and he was talking non stopped the round and 390 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,039 it's like, dude, calm yeah, right. I kept thinking of Hamilton's 391 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,759 right the show. Hamilton's like talk less, smile right, right, exactly. 392 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,799 He didn't. I'm guessing I'm hoping if he just kept talking incessantly. 393 00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:25,759 Unfortunately he didn't know, right, But you remember that, right, Remember 394 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:30,200 I'm trying to like this guy is. I looked at my buddy John, 395 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,440 who introduced us during the round. I turned back and he goes, I 396 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,839 mean I didn't say anything. He just saw my face and what Yeah, 397 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:44,240 I get it. And I was like this, let's not invite him back. 398 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:48,519 Yeah's inviting get this guy's phone number, But don't get his phone number. 399 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240 Let's just bump into him again if we have to, exactly right, 400 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,119 And so those are the things that we don't want. So when we're again 401 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:03,440 intentional about help being and coaching on all of those pieces, they feel much 402 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,039 more equipped and so no, they might not hit the ball as crisply crisply 403 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,119 as they want to just yet, or those types of things, but they 404 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:17,480 can navigate the course successfully. And my goal is to always have the ladies 405 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:22,240 not feeling anyone I shouldn't say this, the ladies feeling comfortable and confident about 406 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,680 accepting the invitation to play. I want them to feel comfortable and confident enough 407 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:37,519 to initiate the invitation absolutely. All right, let's take another break. We'll 408 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:40,599 find out what's going on on Golf Smarter Mulligans this week, and we'll come 409 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,440 back with doctor Gretta Anderson. I'm just having too much fun here. We'll 410 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,160 be right back. We've all been told multiple times that the key to our 411 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,880 short game is turning three shots into two. Simply put, if you can 412 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,960 get close to the hole from inside of fifty or even a hundred yards with 413 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:02,559 your short game, you give your self a better chance to taking fewer puts 414 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:07,440 and hopefully have more gimmes. This week on Golf Smarter Mulligans, we have 415 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:12,440 the first of two conversations with instructor Chris Fry discussing which clubs to use and 416 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,039 how to get yourself in position to getting close to the hole. This week's 417 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,359 episode is called learning the perfect pitch shot leads to more gimmes. The sweet 418 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:26,920 spot on a sixty degree is a lot smaller because it's so open. The 419 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,920 degree of loft is so high that the sweet spot actually shrinks. So I 420 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:34,240 recommend sixty for my lower handicapper, better player, but I recommend the sand 421 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,240 wedge for those higher handicappers that need that bigger sweet spot. Then from there 422 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,319 the stance is a little open. And the reason I like the stance to 423 00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,880 be open is I like to put weight on the front foot, which is 424 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,480 the lead foot. My case, I'm a right handigolfer, so I put 425 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,640 about seventy percent of my weight on my left foot and I keep it there. 426 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880 Having my open stance and my weight on my left foot promotes a sharper 427 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,839 angle of attack into the golf ball. That sharper angle is what's going to 428 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,400 of us the height and the spin to pull off the shop. That's episode 429 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,920 two hundred and twenty five featuring Chris Fry in the first of two episodes on 430 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,720 our sister podcast, Golf Smarter Mulligans, being released this Friday morning. To 431 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:17,200 get you psyched up for your weekend round. So please follow both podcasts regularly 432 00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:22,960 and never miss the next insight that could change your game. Golf's longest running 433 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:29,359 podcast, Golf Smarter and Golf Smarter Mulligans that revisits the best of the Golf 434 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:38,640 Smarter episodes, and they're both available from wherever you're listening right now. So 435 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:46,119 what happened with your hand that made golf challenging and made you change your whole 436 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:53,440 perspective on it? So I had a really severe like a combo like you 437 00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:00,799 know Guyon's canal and carpal tunnel little to two you know tunnels essentially sheaves that 438 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:05,359 house the nerves and are that run our hands. Well, I had the 439 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:12,359 lethal dynamic duel decided to collapse boom both of them. So it really kind 440 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,680 of yeah, yeah, it was not cute, but and I had surgery 441 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:21,640 to success successfully repair it. But the problem was is that it created quite 442 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,759 a bit of scar tissue and I kind of have kind of bony wrists there, 443 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:28,880 so it's not a lot of space in there, and so the hinging 444 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:36,160 and everything really causing problems and it's painful frankly, And although I am naturally 445 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:42,319 left handed. I played golf right handed. Oh yeah, why so there 446 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,720 was because the first club I picked up, you know, and club whatever, 447 00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,799 nineteen eighty whatever was my dad's club and he's a righty, well right 448 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:59,039 handed golfer, so it was. And when I picked it up. I'll 449 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:00,039 get back to the other part a minute. But when I picked up his 450 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:05,200 club, as I I don't know, ten nine whatever I was. Remember, 451 00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,960 as I mentioned, I've played tennis since I was a very small girl. 452 00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:10,559 Probably started tennis when I was seven. I mean, I was a 453 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:15,639 little girl, but I'm old enough from seething enough. However you want to 454 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,280 tournam it that when I began, I had a little wood racket and the 455 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,559 wood racket was about as big and heavy as I was, cause I was 456 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:27,920 a little string being. But I began two handed on both sides. Right. 457 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,760 So I was at the range hanging out with my dad one day randomly 458 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,440 He's hitting balls and I'm you know, you know how kids do, just 459 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,000 hang out and whatever, And I remember saying, like, well, Dad, 460 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,760 can I hit a ball? And you know, laid back as my 461 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,679 dad is, he was like sure, and he handed meat like it's one 462 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,039 of his wedges or something like that, you know, the shortest club in 463 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:50,039 the bag, and he just went back to hitting. And I remember I 464 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:54,599 was kind of standing there, like and I kind of figured out like, 465 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:59,440 okay, well the part that's supposed to hit the ball goes here, so 466 00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:00,679 that means I I need to be standing here, you know, kind of 467 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:06,719 watching dad, and I just grabbed the club kind of like if this is 468 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,199 a two handed back end for a lefty, this is where I would be. 469 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,039 So I just kind of dropped the club. And so when I hit 470 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,199 the ball, though I do remember vividly my dad likes like he didn't see 471 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,559 me hit the shot, but like he froze watching the shot, and he 472 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,519 kind of turned and he's like, do that again, Do that again. 473 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:29,159 I figured it out, you know, and boom, and he's like, 474 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,599 you're pretty good at that, and I was like yeah and everything. So 475 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:36,239 I did. I took some lessons and because I remember him saying like, 476 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,400 Dad's not gonna screw you up. I'm not gonna coach you at all, 477 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,760 like okay, and I did. I was actually quite good at it. 478 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:50,199 But I will say this, it wasn't that I felt unwelcome in the environment 479 00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:54,039 where I went to like the little junior camp. I just didn't feel super 480 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,559 welcome and so you know, there's only so much time in the day and 481 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,159 that type of thing and so many resources. But I remember my mom saying 482 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,840 like, well, where did you have more fun? And that was a 483 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000 no brainer. It was over in Tennis. You know, I had a 484 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,199 great network there. It was it was diverse, it was supportive, and 485 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880 that's where I landed. So though I have no I don't feel bad like 486 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,840 not having been like, you know, a junior accomplished junior golfer. I 487 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,760 really wasn't much of a junior golfer at all and play that much as a 488 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,239 junior. But I will say that my great hope is that, you know, 489 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,280 the the little Greta, you know, the next little girl who looks 490 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,599 like me, you know, not very far from now. May even if 491 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,440 she doesn't decide to play golf and me she goes like, golf not my 492 00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:43,159 thing, That's okay. I just want her to not choose golf for other 493 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,880 reasons. She wants to do other things, but not for that reason. 494 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,719 Wait, was your dad a lefty playing with right handed clubs? Yeah, 495 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,800 my dad is pretty as pretty close to ambidextrious as you can get. But 496 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,400 yeah, he's and he still plays righting yep. Mmmm, but he's left 497 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,480 handed naturally. No, so he had the right handed clubs, because the 498 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,679 way you said that he had right handed clubs, it was like, wait, 499 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:14,320 but he's not. So you got it exactly from him. Explain the 500 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,360 difference between you know, you see range rats out there. You see people 501 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,760 who are like getting two large buckets. So I'm gonna be out here for 502 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,320 hours? Oh yeah, oh yeah? Really is that gonna improve your game? 503 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,920 What's that gonna do? Is that gonna that's gonna just solidify bad habits? 504 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Probably? But the difference between what a range rat does of just striking 505 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,920 the ball over and over and scooping hit and scooping hit and scooping hit versus 506 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:45,440 playing golf, how do you explain that? How do you teach that? 507 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,400 Okay, So, first of all, I do believe that there's a place 508 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,199 in a space for range work, right, because sometimes we're learning we call 509 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,159 it block right, we're block learning right. We've gotta get this skill and 510 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,639 hone the skill, and there's sometimes you just need to hit a few. 511 00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:02,440 But just as you said, grabbing the you know, double fisting on the 512 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:07,320 on the buckets and going at it's it's the definition of insanity, right, 513 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,119 doing the same thing over and over expecting something different, right, doesn't work 514 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:15,639 like that. So I tell people and I encourage I can't tell people everything, 515 00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:19,960 but I encourage them to think of things this way. When you're out 516 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,800 on the course, that's really where you can identify where unique you know to 517 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,400 work on development, and it's the application of it. After all, we 518 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,239 play golf on the course. You know, sometimes people treat the golf as 519 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,039 this formal place, like I've got to have everything in order to then go 520 00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:38,880 on to the course. And that's just never going to be the case. 521 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,079 Where all works in progress when it comes to our game. But the more 522 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,000 that's reinforced, it also instills kind of this fearing people like, well, 523 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,559 I'm not ready for the course, right, I'm not ready for the course. 524 00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:52,840 I'm not ready to do this on the course. As long as you 525 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,840 understand how to maintain pace of play and good at it, could the course 526 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,599 is for you, right, which goes into why it's so important to help 527 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,440 you know, early stage golfers to understand good etiquette and pace of play because 528 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,800 you can be a golfer of any experience level and get out on the course 529 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,480 as long as you understand we can't quite hold things up and and and know 530 00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:17,800 when to say when right. But I encourage new golfers to get on the 531 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,519 course to get more comfortable and develop confidence. And also you'll be able to 532 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:27,920 see how things work, how they are, how the dots connect, right, 533 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,679 because I can help you work on you know, there you're working with 534 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,599 your driver on the range. I can help you work with your irons and 535 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,039 your hybrids and all the things on the on the range. But it's on 536 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:42,440 the course when you're going to see how they come together. How you may 537 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,199 use and your seven iron here, but you may use you know, your 538 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,599 seven hybrid in this instance. I can only explain so much in this sterile 539 00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,599 laboratory, right. It's the application into the real world that makes the difference. 540 00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:59,360 One of the things on your website talked about how you like to identify 541 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:06,800 and address weaknesses, which I have found that a lot of golfers will not 542 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,159 look back at the scorecard or if they have a phone that they're using while 543 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:15,360 they're on the course that shows them with their shots and things that they don't 544 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,320 identify what's not working, you know, like this twenty four handicap was like, 545 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,800 I can hit anything I want, but boy, I'm terrible around the 546 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,280 greens. So why aren't you working on that? How do you help people 547 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:36,320 understand that? It? Don't just work on what's working if you want lower 548 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,800 scores, if that's your goal, you know, I mean, we all 549 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,599 have fun, but if your goal is to play better golf, you really 550 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:49,199 have to understand how to identify your weaknesses correct. What gets measured gets improved. 551 00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,760 Right, It's as simple as that. Right. If I don't know, 552 00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:59,199 if I have no idea that wow, like, oh wow, I 553 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:06,079 had thirty four puts in this nine whole round. H you got to know 554 00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,599 the numbers, I mean, and I don't attach and I encourage people not 555 00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:15,920 to attach a value to the number, right, a judgment to the number. 556 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,360 Right, The facts are the facts, right, as people would say, 557 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,199 and you know, get out of your feelings. Right, It's okay, 558 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,480 it's just a number. But now that we know where we stand, 559 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,800 we can work on creating the trend in the direction of your choosing right, 560 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960 which is typically a lower score. Right, we can understand where we are 561 00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,480 and build upon that. Right, if you don't know with confidence that you 562 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:42,960 can make, you know, eight out of ten putch from three feet around 563 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,639 the whole, you're gonna make your decision. I mean, and I'm just 564 00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:51,000 working the way back. You're gonna your decision making is going to be skewed 565 00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:55,199 and probably poor. Frankly, right, if I don't know what I don't 566 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,840 know, it's okay. Again, people get I think that people get hung 567 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,960 up on attaching a value to a number, where I encourage people to understand 568 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,400 your numbers so that you can build upon that. Because I'm a big believer 569 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:14,559 in staring with your strengths, but understand that your challenging areas, your weaknesses, 570 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:19,039 they will go one way or the other, right, so you can 571 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:24,880 put some time in them. Right, And that's okay as a golfer, 572 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:30,039 not a golf instructor, but as a golfer, it's the best advice you've 573 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:38,400 ever received. Mind your business. And that means like I don't when I'm 574 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,519 playing, like you know, if I'm seriously playing and I'm ready to score 575 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,880 and that type of thing, I'm aware of what's going on around me. 576 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,800 But I'm I'm not dialed into you, right, I'm dialed into me because 577 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:58,159 making great shots across eighteen holes that takes some concentration and focus right, and 578 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,079 the reality he is as a golf professional when you're playing, there are very 579 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:08,159 few instances where you get to just play right because while I may take off 580 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:16,119 my coaching had most of the time when you're playing with people that that it'll 581 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,639 slip in. Even with your best of friends, it'll slip in, like 582 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,599 I don't know why I'm slicing gretit. Did you see that? No? 583 00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:29,400 I didn't, you know, And you know you kind of have to draw 584 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,800 that line because you do. It's it's my nature. If I'm if I'm 585 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,840 leaning, you know, and I'm waiting on my turn and I'm in the 586 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,440 fairway and I see you, I know exactly for the most part why that 587 00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,199 happened. I have to learn to turn that off. So for me, 588 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:49,320 it's really about concentration and focus and minding my own business. That is phenomenal 589 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,159 advice, because oh, I mean, the worst thing you can possibly do, 590 00:43:53,639 --> 00:44:00,440 especially with somebody you're related to, a spouse, a child, is 591 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:06,840 give on course advice, don't boy. Yeah, you know, like when 592 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,000 I when I it comes out that I do this podcast, and I'm like, 593 00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:13,360 hey, I'm not an instructor or anything like, oh, but can 594 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,559 you give me an advice? No, I don't do that. Yeah, 595 00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:20,719 but maybe during the round, I'll say, do you mind if I make 596 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:28,440 an observation? Right? Sure? Okay, I mean if you know, 597 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:34,760 and it won't be on mechanics either. Yeah, you can kind of escape 598 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,119 it. It's a trick. I mean, it is a tricky thing. 599 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,639 People like, are you like the cruel thing? I guess I won't say 600 00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:42,639 cruel, but they like, they know you saw it, you know. 601 00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,840 I mean I'm standing there and they're like, I know, you know it. 602 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:51,360 I did see the shot. Well what am I doing wrong? I 603 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,679 mean they and they know that I know the answer. I go like, 604 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,480 let's talk about it over, you know, let's talk about but we've got 605 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,920 seven whole to go. Gretta, Yeah, right, but we can't fix 606 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,000 it right now. Even if I told you what it was, you wouldn't 607 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000 be able to fix it. It would only be in your head. It's 608 00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:10,440 the rabbit hole, it's the drain, whatever you wanna call it. The 609 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,199 minute, I go like, look, so okay, we've got what forget. 610 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:22,920 I said that I've learned you know, it happens right now. So 611 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,159 that is the thing, Just minding my own business and staying in my lane 612 00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,920 and just focusing on me, just even in a purely if I'm playing amongst 613 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:38,119 my peers my lane, I don't I could. I can put the blinders 614 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:43,320 on and that's it. So with that then I play my best. I'm 615 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,559 not worried about what you did, what I did. I'm gonna play the 616 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:49,000 course the way that it works best for me. Was shots of working for 617 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,119 me today, so on and so forth, and that's it. Where do 618 00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:57,280 you give golf lessons? I teach. It's Steell Canyon golf Course and stands 619 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,599 and Sandy Springs wretches right just north of Atlanta, still full of county, 620 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,320 right next to the city Sandy Springs. And do you do remote lessons as 621 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,079 well? I do? I absolutely do. How can people get in touch 622 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,760 with you? You can find me. You can find me on all of 623 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,840 the socials, as they say at doctor Gretigolf d R g R E T 624 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,119 A g O LF. You can find me on my website, doctor Gretigolf 625 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:31,039 dot com and yeah, that covers it all. You'll find me there and 626 00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:36,800 your podcast, The Smart golf. That that part two, Yes, that 627 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,000 part two. It was so much fun. I really hope we can do 628 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:45,239 this multiple times because that would be my grain a lot and really enjoyed it. 629 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,119 Thank you so much, so much, thank you, thank you. 630 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,239 Well. I'm happy to reward the Joanna and I are now fully recovered from 631 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:59,480 COVID this time, and I'm back to walking a full eighteen holes again. 632 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,280 It wasn't easy, but I've made it now. Since we were last together, 633 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,920 I've played twice. The first was at one of my all time favorite 634 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,639 golf courses, and that's TPC Harding Park in San Francisco. Now, strangely 635 00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:19,280 it's been four years since I last played there, but I was still battling 636 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,000 fatigue of COVID during this round and only walked the front nine, had to 637 00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:27,840 ride the back, but still played pretty well, shooting forty one forty one. 638 00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:32,360 And the crazy thing my last twenty rounds, my highest score is eighty 639 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:37,280 six, my lowest score is seventy six, So I'm my consistency right now 640 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:43,800 is better than it's ever been and it really does have everything to do with 641 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,920 these interviews that I do on the podcast. But here's my favorite part about 642 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,679 the story of playing Harding Park. The TPC Harding Park, especially holes eleven 643 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,880 and twelve in San Francisco, are directly across from the dorm I lived in 644 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,559 when I attended San Francisco State University in the mid nineteen seventies. And two 645 00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:07,159 of my playing partners last week have been friends since we worked on that college 646 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,599 radio station together. They were actually supposed to be three of us, but 647 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:15,679 one had to postpone and then my other round this weekend. What an outrageous 648 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:23,000 round I had. You gotta check this one out. Two triples, one 649 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,360 double, one bogey, one birdie, and those two were back to back 650 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:35,480 on numbers two and three and then thirteen pars which included a couple of nice 651 00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:38,280 saves and thirty four total puts. And as we discussed with doctor Grat on 652 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,239 this episode, if you aren't paying attention to some of those basic stats, 653 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,639 not really sure what aspect of your game you need to improve. So fairways, 654 00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:53,599 greens in regulation, total puts, length of your first puts, those 655 00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:58,760 are all important things to be looking at. And I'm using our costs now 656 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,039 on my clubs, and I look back at the round and like, okay, 657 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,199 where did I screw up this week? How can I improve? It's 658 00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,960 a good way to do it, So just keep track of those stats. 659 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,199 And I really look forward to getting doctor Gretta back on the show, as 660 00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:19,159 her insights, even those beyond golf, are pretty compelling. Again, her 661 00:49:19,199 --> 00:49:24,360 podcast is called Smart Golfer. Find out more at doctor Greta Goolf dot com, 662 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,719 Dr Grta Golf, Doctor Greta Goolf dot com. Remember our conversation with 663 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:36,440 Jerome Ruffin, the young man who created a video channel called from Scratch to 664 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:43,199 Scratch that documents his quest to become a scratch golfer. I hope that I 665 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,039 wasn't too condescending about his naivete about the game. But I continue to watch 666 00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:52,199 his videos, not because of the train wreck that is his progress, but 667 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,679 mainly due to the people he's been working with to improve his game. The 668 00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,239 last two videos I watched have featured doctor Rick Sesson House, who's been on 669 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,559 Golf Smarter episodes eight hundred six, eight hundred and sixty three and will be 670 00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:09,159 back. And you may remember he was Colin Morricawa's coach from when Colin was 671 00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:14,840 a little boy all the way through winning two majors. Well Rick's instruction is 672 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,519 really worth the price of admission alone because he's such a great teacher of more 673 00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:27,280 than just the golf swing, and his patience is admirable. Shout out this 674 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,920 week to Golf Smarter Ambassador Robbie Smith from Lake City, Minnesota. Hey, 675 00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:35,639 Robbie, thank you tell all your friends that you are now a Golf Smarter 676 00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:39,800 Ambassador and that you're on the podcast now. 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