At a book. On last week's show, we had Moni come on and
tell us about two encounters he had, but unfortunately we ran out of time
and I wasn't able to ask any questions. So that's why it's come back
tonight to answer those questions Moni. Before I started asking you questions about the
two encounters you told us about on last week's show. For the people who
missed that show, please give us the cliff notes version of what happened when
you have those experiences. Okay, the first encounter, I was sixteen.
It was me and my brother and a friend John, and we lived out
in rural Virginia at southwest Virginia, Giles County to be specific. Behind our
house was some woods. We decided to go camping. We were up there,
it was nighttime. I'd gone back to get some firewood and I had
something thrown by my head into the fire, and I paused a minute,
and I had something else fly by my head and we realized it wasn't like
an a corner or anything. It looked like a rock, and a couple
seconds later we had about an eight to ten second scream that scared the living
daylights out of all three of us, and I basically grabbed my little brother
and went straight down the mountain, went through a fence basically towards leg up,
got down to the to the house, met John down there, which
he took an alternate route, banged on the door, got inside. After
a little bit, my dad said, hey, let's go back up there
and put the fire back out. I didn't want to go, but reluctantly
I want a hit, and got in the truck. There was an access
road that kind of paralleled my way down, so we went up that access
road and while he got out of the truck and he put out the fire,
I basically sit in the truck and bit my fingernails and shivered, hoping
that he wasn't going to get attacked, which he didn't, and he got
back in the truck. We went back down and I basically from then on
out. I had some trouble with some PTSD for quite a while after that.
And that's the first encounter. The second encounter was out in Menita,
Virginia, a place called Snug Harbor. I went out to pick my brother
up from a friend's house later one evening. I'm thinking it was around ten
or ten thirty maybe eleven o'clock, went out, heard something on my way
out, really didn't think anything of it, picked him up, turned around,
came back, and while I was reaching down to grab a CD or
packet cigarettes, I can't remember what it was I was reaching down for,
but my brother started saying, look, look, look, look, And
I looked up and I seen the back half of this creature passing in front
of us. And we waited until it basically got about four or five steps
into the woods there, and then I gunned it back to the house,
went in. My dad wasn't awake this time, so we basically stayed up
all night talking about it. And that's pretty much both of the encounters.
Did you see the thumbnail that I created for last week's episode? By chance?
I think I did? Yes? Good, I was hoping you had.
How does the subject in that thumbnail compared to the one that you and
Rob saw? It looks very very similar. The top half of the torso
was hunched over a whole lot more. It wasn't the thumbnail that I'm looking
at that you created. The subject is standing up more of a it has
a better posture. This thing had terrible posture like it looked like it looked
like its back had been almost broken, Like it was just like from the
I would say, from the the shoulder blades to the head, like it
was almost completely horizontal. Wow, I can understand why they did freak you
out. Then, Yeah, that's pretty creepy. On last week's show,
you said something I didn't understand, and I want to ask you about this
before I actually dive into all these questions. You said that you live in
the woods, but that you don't go into the woods. Now, please
clear that offers. Okay, So what I meant was I don't live in
the woods anymore. I live in town. I must have missed spuck on
that one, but no, I live in a little small town called Dublin.
I used to live in the woods. I think that's probably what I
was trying to say, that I used to live in the woods. I
mean, we basically lived in the woods for my whole teenage life. But
after that stuff happened with that, I mean, I I haven't lived anywhere
near the woods since then. Thesis that i'd been is at my mom's house
for a couple months, and that was that's not really in the woods at
all. That's I mean, there's a few trees there and everything that there's
no real woods around. And the current place that I live in Dublin,
it's you know, it's a little bustling town. You know, it's it's
nowhere near that the woods or anything. But yeah, sorry about that.
All that's all right. Yeah, I feared you'd just misspoken. So I
just wanted to ask for clarity on that good thing. Considering how John hadn't
spent much time in the woods at all before you had that first encounter.
Did that experience hit him especially hard? Well, I only saw him a
few more times. Now. We saw each other in school, and we
passed each other in school, but there wasn't a whole lot of conversation going
on. And when we started back that September, and I don't know if
this is related or not, but he missed the first two weeks of school.
And that I mean, you know, back then, we didn't have
cell phones, so we didn't have the internet. Well maybe we had the
internet, but it was very very young in its infancy, and our communication
was you know, pick up a phone and remember some of one's number and
you know, speak to him on the phone, and I wasn't much of
a phone guy. And plus I don't know it affected me so much.
I didn't want to drum up the conversation with him. To be honest with
you, I mean it was it was quite an experience for me. But
I just don't know. We lost touch. I haven't spoken to him in
years and years, so I really don't know how that affected him. Hopefully
not too bad. It sounds like it was almost kind of awkward. Whenever
you did see him after that encounter, it was, it was, it
was very awkward. He almost seemed to avoid me after that. Yeah,
that's a pretty common thing when more than one person has an encounter, so
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rocks were thrown between you and your tent, do you think they'd actually been
thrown at you or just passed you? Uh? You know, I thought
about that for a long time, and the only the only answer that I
could come up with that that makes sense to me is I think that they
were just trying to maybe maybe get my attention or or or say, hey,
this is our spot. You know, you guys need to leave.
I felt like with the after effects of like what happened, it wasn't a
curiosity thing. And I think if one of those things wanted to hit you
with a rock, I think they would. As much as I know about
them now, I think if they're going to throw something at you, you're
gonna get hit with it. Yeah, that makes two of us. I'm
pretty sure they would hit you if they wanted to. You told us about
the vocalization the three of you heard. Did you feel any nausea afterwards?
You know I felt it all the way down the mountain. Yes, I
did. It was I'm glad you brought that up. Actually, you know,
that's that's something I didn't really remember until you just said that. That's
that's really weird. But yeah, it wasn't so much during the scream.
It was more when I was going down the mountain with Rob, Like I
mean, I could definitely tell when like we we hit the dirt several times,
and when I was getting back up, I noticed it, and yeah,
I'm glad you brought that up. That's that's actually kind of kind of
weird, man. I don't know why I didn't mention that. I I
guess I just didn't remember. It's a good thing with these, with these
encounters like this, you know when you retell them, all these new details
that you couldn't remember before it comes up, you know, Oh definitely,
And yeah, don't feel bad about not recalling that, because I mean,
you're doing good to know your own name, so no one could fault you
for that. Were you holding it together pretty well until you looked over and
saw the look on Robin John's faces. Well, there wasn't a whole lot
of time in between the scream and the look on his face, But I
think it was just a I was more in a fight or flight kind of
mode at that point, and all I was thinking about was flight holding it
together. I don't know what anybody else would do, well, probably anybody
in my position would probably just freeze themselves. But that's pretty much all that
I felt was fight or flight as far as holding it together. Or not.
I think it all collapsed when I came through the door. That's when
I wasn't holding it together anymore. I was pretty cool and collective when it
came to grabbing him and running down the mountain there. But as soon as
I knew I was safe, like I was crying, I mean, I
was hysterical. I mean my dad had to calm us down for I mean,
we were all three hysterical. But he I mean, yeah, I
know. It was a good ten or fifteen minutes that he, you know,
was trying to calm us down. And finally he was just like,
okay, you guys, when you're done, let me know and we'll talk
about this thing, you know. And that's pretty much how that happened.
You deserve a lot of credit. I mean, when it goes sideways away
it did that night, you held it together and got business taken care of.
You grabbed Rob and hauled him down that mountain and got him to safety
as well as yourself. And then after you were in relative safety, once
you were in the house, then you broke down. So you did what
you needed to do. And like I said, you deserve a lot of
credit for that. He said, you drug. Rob down the mountain that
night as you're trying to get away from the creature, Why do you have
to do that? Wasn't he trying to get away? Well he was,
but there was a significant difference between his body size and mine. At that
point, I'd already hit a growth spurt. You know. I was sixteen
years old. I was a running back on the football team. Rob was
a little I'll describe Rob back then when he was thirteen. He was probably
five foot tall and probably weighed one hundred and fifty pounds, which puts him
at a pretty hefty weight for his age. And you know, I was
lean and skinny, and I'd played football for going on about eight years then,
and that was my natural thing, was running. And I knew the
instant that I had to grab him, that he wasn't gonna be able to
get down on his eye, like it just wasn't gonna happen like that thing
would have had it. And with me helping him and everything, I think
it turned out, you know, the right way, and poor guy was
just you know, he was just unfortunate. Now, later on in his
life, he leaned out, you know, and he looked a lot like
like I did. But those younger years for Rob, up until he was
about seventeen, I'd say maybe sixteen, he was short and pudgy, you
know, and I was just worried about him, you know. I just
didn't see him getting down there on his own. Well, like I said,
you're a good man. Most people they would have packed up and just
kicking off and the heck with anyone else with him. But no, you
steve and did the best you could to get your little brother down that mountain
into safety. So yeah, you deserve a lot of credit for that.
I saw an episode of Tear in the Woods. There was a bunch of
kids that were running away from this bigfoot and there was an ice chest out
front, like a like a freezer or whatever. And like this kid,
his brothers locked him out of the mobile home and he had to jump in
that ice freezer. Like I would have never done that to my brother.
I saw that. Yeah, when I watched that, I just couldn't believe
that. What I could but yeah, that's horrible. Yeah, and they
kept him in that thing for a while too, they did, Yeah that's
what he said. He said they did. Yeah, that was pretty bad.
But when they go sideways, you never know you're going to respond.
So that reminds me of another eyewitnessed what I spoke with about his dog me
an encounter. He was out with this buddy one day. I forgot where,
but this dog man jumps out and he took off running and left his
buddy, who was overweight, behind and said sorry, so and so.
I forgot his name, but he just took off running, and next thing
he knew, his buddy was blowing right by him and left him there.
He was running still, but his buddy blew right past him. It's great.
Yeah, you made it back to the house before he did. Well,
before he did. I thought that was hilarious what I heard about.
Oh man, that is great. Then it starts him right, Yeah,
it does. But then again, I mean, you can't be too hard
on people. You never know. Like I said, how are you going
to respond when things get sideways? Yeah, I totally get that. No,
but it's definitely a funny situation. Though I don't know if Rob would
have done that. But you know, there was one situation. I was
riding a motorcycle up on the dirt road and there was down in the valley
was like a cornfield, and we were almost racing, and it was about
that time. It was before that happened, before the encounter happened, but
he was. We were going from our grandmother's house, which was actually like
about a half mile away from our double wide, and I was on the
motor cycle, just kind of putt putting on the road, and I looked
down and I'd never seen my brother run that fast in my life, and
I don't I don't know why that just jogged that memory. But that's kind
of cool. When you've got the proper motivation, you can really pick them
up and put them down. Yeah, yeah, that's right. How far
was your camp from the house? Now, I've got my encounter on my
own channel, and if you go to that and you click on that video,
it says my own encounter. It shows the Google Earth. I kind
of did like a little it's like a measurement from the house to the top
of the hill. I think it was like a half mile, quarter mile
something like that. I'll bet that felt like five Yeah, it did.
It did, especially going through those trees and and anticipating that that fence coming
up. I wasn't exactly going one hundred percent speed. You know, there
was times where I did hit one hundred percent and you know, but a
lot of it was I was going slow for rob and going slow because I
didn't want to hit that fence. Oh sure, Yeah, between trying to
drag him down the mountain and being worried about that barbed wire fence down at
the bottom of it. Then yeah, I'm sure you were going all that
fast. Yeah, if it was just me, I would have beaten John
down there by at least thirty seconds or so. I mean, that's my
guess. John was a pretty fast guy. Well, I'm sure he was.
But if you're a running back, you must have had some pretty good
speed yourself. Yeah, I was. I was okay back then. I
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Slash Podcast. Was it almost worse running away from the relative safety of the
fire that night to get home or were you glad to be doing that?
Well, I'll tell you this. When we entered the woods and it started
getting dark, like from the fire, you know, being behind us or
whatever. I thought I'd made a mistake because it was it was pretty dark
that night. I can't remember about the you know, the moon phase that
night or anything like that, but I do remember that it was really dark.
And I'll tell you what. I almost thought that I made a bad
mustake. Well, I mean, you know, to this day, I
kind of flip flop. I almost kind of wished that I would have taken
the road with John because obviously, you know, it didn't get John,
and that would have alleviated you know, all of that old crap. It's
pitch black, you know where I go, you know, kind of feeling.
And I wouldn't have hurt my brother, you know, scraping his knee
up and I mean he had scratches everywhere, man like it. It's a
wonder I didn't put his eye out from a branch or something. Please don't
be too hard on yourself. You're put in a very difficult situation that you
just handled it the best way you knew how, and I think you deserve
a lot of credit for how you handled it, So don't be too hard
on yourself. How long did you stay in that home after having that first
experience, well, let me think about that. We let's see, we
moved over there about the time I was fourteen or fifteen. We were there
all about a year or so when the encounter happened, and we didn't stay
there much longer. We stayed there another year and my grandmother passed away,
so we moved up into her house and we rented out the double wide,
so that I mean, we weren't like we were still in the same overall
location, but not in the exact location. I mean, like I said,
it was probably like, I don't know, a quarter to a half
a mile up the road, and then we stayed there, probably I don't
know, another six months or so. I'm sure you couldn't wait to get
out of it though. Yeah, it wasn't a great place at nighttime.
During the day, you know, I still didn't venture, but maybe a
couple steps into the woods here and there, but I never went into the
woods after that, like I was done at that point. But up at
Grandma's house, the neighbors were a little bit closer, and that that kind
of gave me a little bit of a feeling of safety. I'm really not
sure why, but I guess with the more the people, you know.
I guess my mindset was the more people, the least that those things want
to come around. Being a kid living right there in the woods, it
really is a shame that you couldn't go out and just explore whenever you wanted
to. Yeah, we did it a lot beforehand, and even before that,
we lived close to the woods before we even moved into the double wide,
So like from a very young age, you know, that's what we
did. That was our thing, you know. And it was about the
time, well, I'd started playing guitar around thirteen, so after that encounter
happened, I pretty much stayed in the house from then on out, and
so did rob By the way, and that's when my interest in playing guitar
really ramped up. So that really served as a really good coping mechanism for
me. That in art. I've been doing both of those since I can
remember. I've got about thirty years of a musicianship under my belt now,
so and well about thirty years of art under my belt too. I just
wish I could have made some money with him. No, I understand your
second encounter happened about four years after the first one, had you come to
terms yet with that first experience, before that second encounter happened. Oh God,
no, no, no, I tell you what happened. I pushed
it back in the back of my mind. And that's how where that encounter
lived. You know, I didn't bring it up. I didn't talk to
Rob, I didn't talk to anybody about it after that. You know,
we had a few conversations the first couple of weeks after you know, it
happened, but it kind of tapered off, and we just kind of knew,
like, just don't bring it up, and that kind of served as
a good thing for me. I had some other things going on in my
life anyway. I was in my younger twenties, well, I was twenty.
I just met my now ex wife, future mother, my kids.
So I had a lot of things going on in my life at that point
to kind of distract me from that. And then when you know, we
saw that thing through the windshield man, things changed again, and here I
go again, back into isolation. Heck, I didn't hardly even come out
of my room for a long time. And I got married and we moved
to the city, and that was that for the Woods. And even though
that I lived in the woods. I'll go ahead and clarify this real quick.
Even though that I lived in the woods down in Snug Harbor, I
did not go into the woods. My path was door car door, car,
car door, you know that from the from the front door to the
car, and I didn't I didn't venture out. I didn't want to venture
out. I didn't want to see what was out there. And normally I
would go pretty quickly, even at night time, like when Dad asked me
to go pick him up that night. You know, I remember, like
I did not want to go. It was just a it became a routine
for me, like to just stay away from the woods. You know.
I'll bet you did stay away from the woods. And that right there,
that's what I thought you were talking about when you said that you lived in
the woods, but you didn't go into the woods. I thought, Okay,
here's a guy who actually has a home in the woods, but he
goes, like you said, from door to car and that's it. Yeah,
that's it. I didn't. I mean, there was there was some
other times where we were out in the front yard, which the front yard
in Snug Harbor, it faced the road like Okay, if you're looking from
the front door, the driveway goes straight out from where you're standing about I
don't know, eighty feet maybe, and then there's like a I want to
say a cult de sac, but it really wasn't a cult de sack.
It was just a dead end. But people did turn around there a lot.
But once you get go that eighty feet out the driveway, you just
turn right and it just went to the right at that point. But like,
the yard was pretty big, and every now and then me and my
brother, you know, during the during the daytime, or me and my
brother and my dad would would go out and pass the football, or if
we had to work on the car, you know. But that's not in
the woods. That was in our yard. You know, there's definitely a
difference. How far were you from your new home when you and Rob had
that second encounter. Well, when I went to go get him, it
wasn't but maybe three or four hundred yards out the road from the house that
I heard that cracking and stuff. But like when when I went to get
him and then come back, it was there. There was a there was
a mile or two in between the house. Like whatever that was, I
don't know what that noise was when I first went out. It could have
been it, or it could have been a deer. I really don't know,
but my mind wants to connect the two incidents for some reason. And
if it was, if it was the same creature we're looking at like,
it traveled a little ways there, out towards the middle of the more forested
area, so when I was coming back, it was probably a mile or
two from the house. That's close. I'm sure that didn't help to call
me nerves after having that experience. It sure didn't moon Me and my brother
lived on the upstairs part of this house, and we had a circular window.
I know if you ever saw those like up in the attic, you
know kind of we had like like a loft kind of that we stayed up
in. It was that, you know, you could see the the a
frame in our room. It was more of a loft room and the we
had two circular windows, one near the stairs that you used to come up
that was on one in the back end of the house, and then on
the front end of the house it had another circular window, and that was
where my bed was. It was right next to that window. And I'm
telling you what, man, I had to get a sheet and put over
that thing. After that happened. I just did not want to look outside.
I can understand why. Yeah, that's one thing when you have an
encounter with a dog meion miles and miles away from home, But if you're
only one two miles away, especially after having that first encounter that you and
Rob had, Yeah, that's totally understandable. And speaking of that, did
seeing that dog me in that night when you two had that second encounter almost
push you, a Rob over the edge. I don't know what I would
define as the edge on that because it felt like I was already over it
when I started hearing those sounds when I first went out to go get robed,
like I started thinking, you know, it was in the back of
my mind, like, oh no, you know, because anytime I was
anywhere near the woods and I heard any kind of popping and cracking like that
feeling started coming over it again. You know. It was every single time,
you know, and most of the time I wouldn't look, but the
times that I did, you know, I would find that there was a
squirrel or a deer or you know, somebody's cat or something trampling around in
the leaves, but over the edge was probably yeah, I went, yeah,
it was definitely over the edge. I mean I was basically hyperventilating,
you know, the whole time home. My brother had to really really calm
me down, Like when we got home. He was a lot more mature
four years later, and he really had to calm me down up there.
And I just kept telling him, I don't want it to come in the
house, you know, I don't want it to follows, you know,
back, And I didn't know what to do about that. Yeah, that's
not a very good thought. It's not a thought that's going to give you
the warm and fuzzies idea of a dog man coming into the house. No,
definitely, not, not at all. How long did you see the
claws were on the tips of its toes. Well, okay, the way
that it looked to me was okay, just imagine a normal toe, of
saying, human's toe, Okay, not a canine toe, because this thing
had weirdly, I don't know, his feet, the feet on it was
weird looking. Man. I can't really say whether if it was canine or
human. It looked to be like a like a hybrid of like maybe both.
But the toe if you imagine a toe and you look at it side
profile, so so you see the floor, okay, and then the pad
of your toes touching the floor, and then several inches up, you know,
you get the top of your toe normally, like on a human's toenail,
like if it was to grow out, it grows out pretty straight and
then it starts curling over. And that's that's what it looked like. It
looked like it had like kind of went out straight and then curled over at
the edge, and then on the bottom of it it was very flat.
Like I don't know why that detail sticks out to me, but like I
can see that toenail like as I'm speaking about it. But I would say
it was probably two inches long from the nail bed, well maybe two and
a half. I'm looking at my finger here, and it was probably as
long as my forefinger if I curl it at the end. That's what that
now looked like. So a couple inches sounds like they're pretty gnarly looking.
They were, Yeah, they must have been. Could you see when you're
looking at its feet if its claws were actually touching the ground. Well kind
of, I guess. Yeah, when it raised its foot up is when
I saw the claw, Like, that's when I noticed it, because like
when the foot came up or whatever, it kind of came up like you
know, like if you imagine someone stepping and then and then bringing their foot
up, like I saw the edge of it, like it almost gleamed in
the light. Yeah, that's you know, that's about all I can say
on that. Well, like I said earlier, you had so much going
through your mind. No one can fault you from not knowing all these small
details. Yeah, it was just a it was kind of a split second.
But like I guess, like where my eyes went from my brother's face
horizontally from right to left, it kind of landed near his feet where his
feet was. You know, that's the first thing I saw, was the
feet. How tall do you see? It was? Oh? Man,
this thing was This thing was tall, dude, Like if he would have
straightened out the way the creature looked, was it? Okay, if you
imagine like at the shoulder blades, if you would just like if you saw
the thumbnail, we'll go back to that again. If you looked at the
thumbnail on your on the video of the last encounter there, the dog man
in your picture is more standing up with a better posture than I would say
that the one that I had that I had encountered, it almost looked like
from the shoulder blades, or maybe a little bit below the shoulder blades,
like it was hunched over, like it had this like hunch back kind of
look to it. But if it was, I mean that that position that
he was in there, I would say he was at least six to six
and a half feet tall. But if it would have raised up like and
did like a correct posture, that thing would have been at least seven and
a half feet all. How wide would you say its head was? Well,
the angle that I was at, I couldn't quite tell you how wide
it was. Now I'll do a little a little bit of speculating here,
I would say it was at least twice as wide as a human's head,
maybe maybe a little smaller if that's the case. Did its head look to
be in proportion to the size of its body. It did as far as
well. Let me let me actually rephrase that it actually looked a little small,
because the torso of this thing was absolutely humongous like it. It's hard
to describe really, but it almost had like a V shaped torso. But
once you once you get up to the shoulders, you could tell this thing
had a lot of girth to it. But yeah, it's yeah, I
just don't know, I don't know how to describe that. Oh, that's
all right. If you're trying to describe a beer or a dog or something
like that you see all the time. That's one thing. But trying to
describe something like this, especially when you're compromised the way you were, totally
understandable that you'd have art. Yeah, it was really just a shock.
I mean, I think the whole encounter may have lasted five to six seconds,
which it felt like an eternity. But anytime I go back and relive
it, you know, it seems like it was a longer and longer occurrence.
But I try to keep a more logical mind about it and take it
to account everything else that was going on. And you know, it was
probably five to seven five to eight seconds long. And now as far as
like me seeing it, I only saw it for like maybe a second second
and a half and then I saw a silhouette. I would say compared to
a bear. I've seen several bears. A full grown black bear is what
I'm used to seeing in this part of the country. I would say that
this thing was much wider, much wider than a bear. I don't know
if I was i'd feel safe to say two bears wide, but maybe one
and a half bears wide. I mean, this thing was huge. It's
towards it was huge. The arms were really lanky, the waist was thin.
The top of the legs where the thighs would be, those things were
ginormous. Oh, I'm sure they were. Were it serious on the sides
of its head or more on top, kind of in between, if you
were comparing it to a humanoid head, The ears were more. They were
farther up on the head a little bit, not much, but enough to
where you could, you know, definitely tell it's It was more in between.
I wouldn't say on top of the head, but the ears seemed like
they were super long like, and it may have just been the hair that
was kind of sprouting out from its ears that made it look long, but
they're very pointy. I definitely remember that. From the left ear. I
got a really good shot of that from the ear back to the back of
its head. But that, yeah, that's it was. It was probably
i would say six to eight inches long, maybe the ear maybe a little
shorter. That's pretty long. Did it have them pinned or were they pointing
straight up? They were in a pin position. They were almost horizontal with
the top of its head like it was. They were definitely laid back.
Wasn't happy then, No, it probably wasn't. We probably surprised it.
And that's that's what my brother told me when we got back. He said,
I guarantee we surprised that thing, like he was surprised. And I
said, well, what did the look on it face look like? And
he kept telling me that its hair covered the face, he couldn't really see.
I'm still fuzzy on this. How close did you guys get to it
At the closest point, I'd say it was about twenty yards twenty five yards
away, maybe a little closer. I'm still doing my painted rendition of my
encounter and I'm looking at it right now, and I would say it was
probably more like twenty five feet. Yeah, because when I remember it going
out of the light, it had a more defined way of moving out of
the light, like the light and the darkness from my headlights. It seemed
like there was more of a defined visual of him moving from the light to
the darkness. Now, if you put something out in front of you,
say thirty yards forty yards or so, that definition of when it's in the
light when it's in the dark almost blurs a little bit. I just remember
that it was going into the darkness, and like the front half of this
thing, like I couldn't really see, and it was a verty i'd say,
defined contrast. So the more I think about it, the close or
I think that it was. But I would say if I was a batman,
I would probably bet within twenty five feet you could see the individual hairs
and all kinds of different little details and stuff, the wrinkles and stuff on
its back. It looked like it had a scar right up from its waist.
Looked like it maybe something had scratched it, or it had gotten a
fight with something like right near if you go up from its tailbone up two
or three inches and then to the left, right around where your back turns
into your side, it was a horizontal scar you could see was probably about
four or five inches long. You can definitely see it though, and it
was fresh, the patches of hair on it was it was very weirdly sparseed
like down near its but like as it went up on its back, like
it got thicker and thicker. It really does make you wonder what that scar
came from. Might have been fighting another dog me, and you never know,
Yeah, you never know. I don't know if those things are territorial.
I'd say that they would be, but then if you look at canines,
they're pack animals. So there you go. You know, you don't
really know. And plus with the amount of information out there on these things,
like you know, nobody really has one in their garage studying them,
so it's really hard to tell what these things behaviors are, you know,
Thank goodness, no one has one in their garage. That wouldn't go too
well. No, I don't think it would either, not unless it was
dead. Even then, yeah, even then as it Yeah, you're right,
yeah, not a good situation. Did you ever go back to that
spot to look for Prince? Oh? No, man, you know,
anytime I got near that spot, I just I just rode right by it,
or I pushed the gas down where I didn't have to look at it.
I was having so many problems with like nightmares and stuff by then,
like I tried my best to just forget about it. That's how most people
would have responded. Do you see a time coming, Monty when you're going
to be able to head back into the woods and actually have a good time
out there? Hopefully soon, Hopefully soon. Like I said on the last
show, after we talked the first time, I wanted to push myself to
you know, to go into the woods and feel okay. And I got
maybe ten or fifteen feet into it, and I was pretty scared, but
I didn't see anything. You know, it was daytime. I didn't see
any you know, any kind of dangers or anything around it. It wasn't
a hard spot to get out of, so like, you know, if
something did happen, you know, I could get out of there really pretty
quick. But I want to be able to go in the future and be
able to go on hikes and stuff. I mean, I used to go
hiking and stuff all the time, and I'm not much of a hunter,
so you know, getting out there and hunting really isn't my thing. But
I am a fisherman, and there's not there's not a lot of places that
you can go fishing where there's not woods close by. So you know that
right there is that that has really put a damper on my fishing. You
know, I haven't I haven't really fished anywhere near the woods for forever.
Not being able to go into the woods again is put a damper on a
lot of things that you would like to do. But baby steps, baby
steps, Hope you take your time. Don't try to get back into the
woods too quickly. Please do take your time and hope eventually you do get
to the point where you can go back into the woods and enjoy yourself.
Well, let's talk about your YouTube channel now, Monty, please tell us
more about it. Okay, Well, my YouTube channel is called Unexplained Creature
Encounters. I basically in the future want to mainstream it down to a little
bit less of a wide variety of what I've got. Now. I've got
several things on there. I've got a top three, I've got a top
ten cryptids that you've you might not have ever heard of. I talk about
the Oakland creature of Nebraska, and I've got my own encounter on there,
and it's got some visuals on there that will help explain some of these things
that happen to me on that first encounter. Some visuals on there to,
you know, to really help with that. It's basically just about cryptids.
I'm not branching out too far off of that, and I've just started it
about seven months ago and I've got I think six or seven videos. Yeah,
I've got seven total. Like I said, now, if you listen
to the first one, the top ten cryptids You've never heard of, please
excuse the audio on that. That was the very first video that I've ever
made, and I had the audio kind of jacked up a little bit.
But the other videos I dialed it in and it's a lot more easier on
the ears. But I appreciate you. You mentioned in that VIC, Oh
you're welcome. Yeah, listen to three of your shows last night in bed.
I was impressed. Well, I wanted to mention real quick before we
end thing that if you've had a crypted encounter, no matter where you are,
how you are, it doesn't matter, email me at Unexplained Creature Encounters
at gmail dot com and email me with your encounter and I will feature your
encounter on my show. On my channel. I'm looking for people out there
that has had any kind of cryptied encounters, bigfoot dog man, any kind
of weird experiences. I want to try to stay away from UFO encounters.
I want to make a different channel for that. But this is going to
be based totally on encryptids. So if you've had a en crypted encounter out
there, let me know, come to the channel, leave a comment or
email me. Please don't forget to subscribe as well. That's right, thank
you. Oh, you're welcome. As a recording a show about CRYPTI,
it's been helpful when it comes to you dealing with your own experiences with them.
It actually has especially me put my own encounter out there. That one
was the most reluctant video that I put out. I actually had that recorded
for quite some time before I even released it. That was the very very
first video that i'd even scripted out. I mean it was all scripted out,
ready to go and everything just sitting there, and I decided to put
out a top ten to see, you know, how that went with the
viewers and everything, and it actually went over very very nicely. And then
I put the encounter, my encounter out there, and all all the comments
and everything was very very kind, and it does it. It kind of
helps me put everything into effective and it reminds me that I'm in here in
front of a computer. I'm not out in the woods doing this, not
quite yet anyway. But it is kind of a therapy. That's really good
news. That's always a plus. Yeah. Oh, and I wanted to
mention real quick on one of the videos. It's called top three Rare Cryptigs.
You probably didn't know about if you look at the thumbnail. Now,
that's all my art. I was the one who did that whole picture.
There's a tatselworm on the thumbnail. That is good art. What's about time
for us to get out of here in Monte But before we do, do
you have any close in comments you'd like to share? Well, I would
just like to say thank you to all the people that commented on our last
video. There were so many comments that were very kind and thoughtful, and
I just wanted to say thank you to everybody out there that comment and I
mean everybody who watched that. I wanted to thank you. Like I told
you, a lot of good people listen to the show and it's always appreciated
how much they support the eyewitnesses. So yeah, it was pretty nice.
Definitely. I couldn't believe how many people had even commented on it. It
was it blew my mind, to be honest with you, Well, yeah,
you made an impression on them, and for good reason. Yeah.
I just hope that anybody out there that has one of these encounters that come
forward. You know, the process of me meeting you and talking to you
before the shows and talking in between the shows, you know, that was
a nice thing that came along with this interview. I just wanted to thank
you personally for that. You know, it really has helped me to process
everything and get back to life as normal. I just wanted to give a
personal thanks to you, Vic, and I appreciate that. Thank you.
You know, you're welcome. Yeah, that's why I do this. Well
Whyty, I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing those experiences.
And thanks again some my true time, no problem. I enjoyed it.
It's been a great time. Thanks again so much, and have a great night.