WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:06.080 Steve Rivera and Jake and salads. They have their Eye on the Ball on 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:12.320 Tucson's sports stage chat Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to Iron 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.160 the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty M. Steve, he's Jake. Now 4 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:19.839 we have sid with some breaking news. Eye on the Ball, breaking news. 5 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:26.239 All right, we'll start off the breaking news with Arizona Portal news. 6 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:32.960 Today, Tokario Davis said he plans to enter the portal as well another cornerback. 7 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.880 Obviously, these players can come back, so I assume that they're going 8 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:43.320 to be recruited once again from Arizona, but as of right now, losing 9 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:47.079 a lot of depth, a cornerback and obviously tight end yesterday with a couple 10 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.200 of departures. Possibly. Yeah. You know, it's funny how fans just 11 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:54.880 grab onto any little thing that you have to make themselves feel better. Because 12 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.600 Dona Coleman was at the game lesson right, and he was shown on the 13 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.960 on the on the on the videos green and people say, oh, he 14 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.600 was at the game last night. He might be staying. I'm like, 15 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:07.359 you know what, they're fans, they go to basketball. Yeah, I 16 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.640 mean, Bronnie James was here a lot of people. USC is a big 17 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:14.000 name school, A lot of guys maybe want to come out, Maybe Cali 18 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:17.319 kids. Maybe they want to come out because they grew up around USC. 19 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:19.879 Maybe they want to watch. Yeah, why was the zona zoom booing him? 20 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.760 Because they're spiteful. They're the ones that said everything last year, spiteful 21 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.519 of what what is it done to them? Being because he's Brownny his famous. 22 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:30.719 It's stupid. It's stupid because he just had a hard he just had 23 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:36.359 a hard condition. The guys died and he's over here playing. Yeah, 24 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:38.000 you shouldn't be booing him. You should be giving him a standy. No, 25 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.120 he's the son of Lebron. Who's another reason why you shouldn't. It 26 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.480 doesn't make you know what if I'm if I was here and I was if 27 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:48.239 I was Lebron and I was here, I'm going up into the seats, 28 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.760 I'm gonna I'm gonna want somebody's ass, and I'm gonna want it right now. 29 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.400 It's it's it's kids today, I mean, well, and we live 30 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.799 with I don't know if this would happen we twenty if this would happen twenty 31 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.439 year thirty years ago, when we were social media has made these stars out 32 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.280 of people and students, following and influencers. And I've met you this before. 33 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.800 I don't know. I'll ask you to kid any of these influencers influence 34 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:16.439 you. No, not personally. No, No, are you buying sprite 35 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:23.479 because some guy Selena Gomez influenced me to watch SES? That's kind of kind 36 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.560 of creepy. Put you to what I'm saying, Yeah, you have this 37 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.000 TikTok who cares? Man if they're making money off of but they are Internet. 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.960 Yeah, I get it, I get it, but I would never 39 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.840 It never came to my mind. I know a lot of people that have 40 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:42.919 a lot of girls that I grew up with that have jumped into that, 41 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.639 and I just I never thought about doing. I just you're gonna have to 42 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:51.080 give me a lesson on how they make money. It's just they through the 43 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.840 videos. They get sponsors and okay, it's about somebody would want you did 44 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.520 the dance video? You did you and your kid? Right? Yeah, 45 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.240 they never got up on Twitter though, on Facebook, that only got up 46 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.080 on the know people don't people aren't sponsoring those like no, no, don't 47 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.960 do that, don't do that? Okay, what else? So I don't 48 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:13.879 know if you guys saw a Scooby right did make a visit this morning to 49 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.199 Brent Brennan, So that's big. You know, getting the support early on 50 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:22.599 from from alumni and former players will be huge. And with the Boosters, 51 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:24.759 seems like the boosters are will be much happy. I know they wanted a 52 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:29.319 guy that was much more connected to Tucson, So we'll see how how it 53 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.080 goes. But I think Brent Brennan is a people's person. You know, 54 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.319 so far, so good, so so we were there at the press cummings. 55 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:44.599 How happy skill ten? Do you think Kiky was announcing him yesterday and 56 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:49.360 a half given there, given that he wanted to hire him originally, he 57 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:55.319 was giddy. He clear. Staying on the topic of Arizona football, t 58 00:03:55.479 --> 00:04:00.639 MAC is holding a stuff the Bus event tomorrow Row from six am to six 59 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.120 pm for the Community Food Bank of Southern Arizona, and this is more directed 60 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:11.599 to the fans that are complaining about people leaving. If you want people to 61 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:15.360 stay and go out to stuff like this and show support. You know, 62 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.680 it's it's easy to say stuff when kids leave, But were you all in 63 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.480 for these kids? Were you supporting all these kids? Like you wanted them 64 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.879 or that's that's the difficult thing. Jay, What are you willing to do? 65 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.879 What are you willing to do? And how much or even emotional like 66 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:35.160 I said, emotional or financial support? Right, yeah, So this is 67 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.480 a chance for those fans that want team to say, go out, go 68 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.879 do something. Yeah, go do something. Staying on Arizona football again with 69 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.720 the mom Williams visiting Washington this weekend, would not be surprised if he heads 70 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:55.000 over. But Dorman did stay. He came back out of the portal. 71 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.040 I don't know if he goes. Yeah, so he's he's staying, and 72 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.720 so is brand and Phelps the wide receiver. We haven't heard what will HiT's 73 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:06.480 gonna do right from South Point now, but he is now in the portal 74 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:11.439 officially, so yeah. So it's gonna be interesting to see with only certain 75 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.920 schools having players in the portal right now. It's not like before where it's 76 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.519 open. It's obviously a closed session now when a coach leaves, these players 77 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.959 enter. So right now there's only certain aount of schools losing players. We'll 78 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.720 see obvious. See, we're not the only school that's gonna take a hit, 79 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.959 you know, Washington will take. Washington's gonna capitalize on this as well, 80 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.519 that offensive side of the ball for Washington. Yeah, so which doesn't 81 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.560 bode well for Arizona because that's what they have. Yeah, exactly, yep. 82 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:39.439 So this is gonna be I think the next three days or so, 83 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:43.000 we're gonna be huge. We'll find out a lot when it comes to that. 84 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:47.439 So they technically have thirty days, so they got some time. We'll 85 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.319 see what happens. But brand Brannan is gonna have a chance. That's the 86 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:55.800 biggest thing. He's gonna have a chance. So we'll see. Uh. 87 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.560 Staying with the former Arizona player, Jordan McLoud is transferring to to Auburn. 88 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:08.040 Did you see that last year enlisting yourself for him? He had He was 89 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:12.399 a James Madison. James Madison had a pretty good year, except they didn't 90 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:18.160 They didn't cover their bowl games. I think somebody had him Parley dead him 91 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:24.800 there. It's dead to moving into the NFL stuff, we got several coaches 92 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:29.959 interviewed for jobs. David Shaw interviewed with the Chargers, and Mike Rayville. 93 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.160 Rabel was reported to be in l a as well for an interview with them. 94 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.879 So Chargers are they're going through it right now. We'll see what they 95 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.839 come up with. But this is a good I think this is probably the 96 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:44.040 best team to go for the best opening. Yep, they've got the best 97 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:49.000 opening for sure. But the Falcons one, I can't So. Bill Belichick 98 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:54.560 is reported to have a second interview scheduled for this weekend. I don't know. 99 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.360 We were having a funny conversation about this on on on the text chat 100 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:03.279 today. What what questions do you ask Bill Belichick in a job interview? 101 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.120 Well, I said, like I said, it's the other way around. 102 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:11.000 You ask you ask him. How did how you're looking at I'm looking at 103 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.800 your resume? How did your experience at the New England Patriots? Uh? 104 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.160 Prepare you for doing this job? And where do you see yourself in time 105 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.519 of your Yeah? Yeah, exactly right. I have to I feel like 106 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:26.319 this interview is more of the Falcons. We've talked about trying to sell why 107 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:29.680 he should be there. We have we have a little personality survey. We 108 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:32.879 want you to feel out. I know what kind of a guy the NFL 109 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:38.879 people do. Uh uh, it's it's that weird one, yeah, that 110 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:44.399 they do at the combine you know, I mean what you didn't even shouldn't 111 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.839 even call it an interview. See they're having a visit with him or something 112 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:48.759 like that, because it's certainly not an interview. I mean again, you're 113 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:53.480 you know, you're some you know, young buck of a of a of 114 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.279 a GM somewhere, and you're gonna say, you're gonna bring in Bill Belichick 115 00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:59.199 and you're gonna ask him questions. What are you gonna do? What are 116 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.720 you gonna ask him? I yeah, that that interview is. I would 117 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.040 be more nervous if I was the person interviewing him, exactly, exactly, 118 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:11.439 all right. Staying with the NFL, Mike McCarthy's quote was to buy into 119 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.399 us when he when it was said that he's returning to the Cowboys. So 120 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.439 do you think Cowboy fans are going to buy into them? No? I 121 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:26.000 don't think No. I don't know why they kept him. Well, I 122 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.360 mean, who are you gonna get? Is that? Maybe? Yeah? 123 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.759 I mean it's not like you guys, a terrible coach. They just had 124 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.679 a crap ass game and you know in this last game, yeah, you 125 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.720 know, and and who whose fault was that? I know, I know. 126 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:43.080 Mike McCarthy didn't throw any of those pick sixes. Right, So I 127 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.679 don't know, man, I don't know. He's won a super Bowl. 128 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.080 It's not he's a horrible coach. Yeah, but but again that was many 129 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.919 years ago, but many years ago. But again, you know, yeah, 130 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.320 who are you going to get? Did you? Uh? Are you? 131 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.240 Do? You have the Chicago Bears? One? No? I don't 132 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:03.799 do you want to mention? Yeah, you see Cliff Kingsbury is allegedly in 133 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.519 not for the head coaching job, for offensive coordinator, you know, because 134 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.879 you know they've got the first pick, so they can get your Caleb Williams 135 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:16.440 and you know if he goes over there. But I'm like, Okay, 136 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.759 Caleb Williams didn't look that good to me last year. Why would you bring 137 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:24.840 his offensive coordinator? I guess the only connection would be the USC. They're 138 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.159 both at USC. He was working at USC last year. But yeah, 139 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.039 that's that's the point. He was and he was even on the field coaching 140 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.799 And how did that go? Yeah? And I mean Williams at first and 141 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:37.879 even want to go to the Bears. So now you want to go to 142 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.600 the Bears just because because one of your coaches, that's what they're trying to 143 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.039 do because what he's trying to do, Yeah, well your assistant, Come 144 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:48.399 on, I guess that's why the Bears aren't the Bears, right, Yeah, 145 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.240 well, if you got Pat Finley over here, that's camp. What 146 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.240 hell's going on? It's too chaotic because they've gone through some major stuff with 147 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.799 the coaches, letting go coaches. I mean, they mystery. They have 148 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:05.240 a number one draft pick, you know, already in the in uh uh 149 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:11.120 yeah, but that's his name Fields, Yeah, justin Fields. Yeah. 150 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.919 I feel like that's not that big of an upgrade from Fields. Right now, 151 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.679 Field is playing, He's playing better, He's progressive one. I was 152 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:24.399 never sold on Caleb Williams even even well, I was never sold on you. 153 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.919 No, I agree with you. This year kind of like exposed a 154 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.360 few things. And is he going to be able to play? It's not 155 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.559 going to be sunny southern California weather. You're gonna be playing in Lambeau. 156 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.480 You're gonna be playing in Chicago if you make the playoffs, maybe some snow. 157 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.720 I mean it's I mean, for me, I feel like Fields right 158 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.480 now you have to be contempted. Did you see you see the reporter who 159 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:52.600 asked, yeah, the Tampa Bay Con. How are you going to adjust 160 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.559 to? Yeah, the weather in Detroit. He goes, uh, we 161 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:00.840 play indoors, right, right, So Justin and all we did that yesterday 162 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.799 morning for some reason. I was up and they brought the clip and they 163 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.240 showed it blah blah bah and they listened to it. And I'm thinking that 164 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.639 had to be and just you know this too, given your positions and other 165 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:15.240 positions in other places that I'm thinking there was a news reporter, an early 166 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.320 news reporter, who doesn't know anything, but had to do a sidebar about 167 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:22.360 the about the weather. Didn't look and didn't know, and asked that question 168 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.039 because a beat guy knows a guy who knows football nose. So you had, 169 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:31.000 you know, some young reporter who doesn't know, who doesn't know, 170 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:35.639 you know, because she was doing the sidebar on the weather ye and asked 171 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:41.840 this question. But that was a great response. But twenty seconds to get 172 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:46.840 off, I wanted to get your guys opinion on the Texas coach and the 173 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.639 way that it orange down. So UCF after the game did orange down after 174 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.240 they they up said Texas, that was very visible. It did not go 175 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.960 well as the Texas coach took it personally there as they were going through the 176 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.440 how do you prevent it? Courcht you win, win the game, you 177 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.279 do, and and I like what I like what they had to say on 178 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.879 Damn Patrick this morning. They said, if you don't want to people to 179 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:15.000 be doing horns down, don't do horns up right. True, if you're 180 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:18.200 going to be doing that, we'll expect people to do, you know, 181 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:24.120 so go go bite yourself, you know, because because he has their forks 182 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.360 the same thing. I don't do that. I mean, I don't really 183 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.320 care, but you know, fans do students do Like, Okay, if 184 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.679 you're going to do this and you lose, somebody's going to do that and 185 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.720 deal with it. All's fair in loving games. And unfortunately, Brunny, 186 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:48.159 I'm like they really I was in there and it was it was without a 187 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.279 doubt. Every time he got the ball, Yeah, every time you touched 188 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.440 the they were locked in. They had to be locked in on the game 189 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.240 because every time we got the ball to the very end, they were every 190 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.519 time you touched the ball, they were still like, what are we doing 191 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:58.960 in this? Even on the inbound when he would be in bounding the ball. 192 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.679 Welcome to our world, Jay, oh man, I can't wait to 193 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.320 get off the lawn. Serious, I mean I was. I did not 194 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.600 partake in that, but yeah, sure I didn't a liar fire. I 195 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:16.399 was just like because I was asking the my roommate that was with me, 196 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:18.279 I said, what do you think is going to happen? Is he gonna 197 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:24.080 get more cheers went when he's announced? Or or booze? And obviously it 198 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.320 was booze. Yeah, yeah, silly? Sure what else you have? 199 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.240 We have the three things we didn't talk about you Yeah, with the Hall 200 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.279 of Fame guys, right, well, the Ring of Honor, the basketball 201 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.399 Ring of Honor. Three players were announced yesterday. Christian Coloco because he won 202 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.960 a defensive Player of the Year awards, Ben Mathern because he was a was 203 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:48.159 he a player year in the conference? And Kenny Lofton because of his amount 204 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.679 of tens in pro sports so tens didn't have to be in the sport he 205 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.519 played. Yeah, yeah, well and then yesterday, did you who pushed 206 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.600 on the hit it withal he gets cut you? Oh yeah, yeah, 207 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.039 but you got yeah yesterday? Yeah, they waved him yesterday. Hey man, 208 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:07.320 life in the pro life, man, it's it is. It's a 209 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:13.000 tough you're picked. Yeah right, no, no, well you look look 210 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:20.279 from last year. Kicked our asses or kicked our asses? Guy? Oh 211 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:24.279 the league. He's back home, Coloco, same kind of situation now was 212 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.639 in in two and a half years. Two and a half years. Uh 213 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.039 dayal and Terry, who knows what's up with him? He's kind of back 214 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.120 and forth from the G league. This this is the business man, This 215 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:37.759 is a real world. I'd stay in school for you for another five years. 216 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.840 Yeah, so I don't get waived out there. It's a tough world 217 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.600 here, man, jungle. Let's take our next break. We're gonna be 218 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:50.039 back. 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So welcome back to it on 292 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.359 the iHeartRadio wapp Hey, welcome back to on the here on short twenteen fifty. 293 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.400 I'm Steve Rivera, he's Jiginsas Now on the phone, we have Clarence 294 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:07.720 Farmer, former U of A running back. How are you, Clarence doing 295 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.680 pretty good? Great? Pretty good? Great to have you on the show. 296 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:14.680 We wanted to. We always like to have ex players on the show 297 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.440 talk about their past and and we saw that you played for or played back 298 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.079 at the time when Brent Brennan was the GA? Was it ga? How 299 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.359 was that? How were those times? You know, it's crazy I was 300 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:30.240 when he got the job. I had some footage from when I first got 301 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:36.079 in the U of A my freshman year, and uh, I have footage 302 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:41.680 actually of Brett Brendan and coach Tomy and and some games that we had and 303 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:44.720 I active Brett Bret, I played with his brother Brett. He was the 304 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.680 receiver. But overall, to talk about him, man, he was a 305 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:51.039 He was a pretty good guy, very very in tune of what he was, 306 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:53.640 what he was doing at the GA, and and uh, looking not 307 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.799 everything is paying off for him. So you know, I give him, 308 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:03.960 I give him a uh the nods. Yeah, but what if we recalling 309 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.880 then, you know, I know it was long ago and you know, 310 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.160 guy goes he's fifty years old now, right, so he's not the guy 311 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.599 that you know you knew back then. But you know what, but people 312 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.119 are who they are who they are. What is it about him that you 313 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.559 think, uh put him on a path that he ultimately wound up here as 314 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:23.480 a as a head coach. Family guy, family, family oriented. That's 315 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.559 the first thing to go to come to mind when I think about the Brandan's 316 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:33.160 period. You know, they are a family that is very rich with you 317 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:40.599 and you know, the the the the way that he carried itself was very 318 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.160 it was very pleasant to say the least of that. If that comes off, 319 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:51.480 yeah, yeah, it's pleasant. So I'm so right now looking at 320 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.720 the past. You right now, he's fifty years old who he was back 321 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:56.480 then in the way he is now. You know, there's definitely a lot 322 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.160 of growth and maturity and becoming the coach now. But you know, first 323 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.200 experience that I had with him, and you know it was very very very 324 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.920 good, very pleasant superman. So since you left him, a lot of 325 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.960 things have happened, right you you been at a weird time. Uh we 326 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:15.720 there was Macovic, there was Stoops, there was Winds, Rod Someling, 327 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:19.240 uh Fish. Did you keep in contact with anybody? And did you follow 328 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:22.920 the program believe it or not? You know, I followed the program from 329 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:27.920 Afar, but you know, uh, interestingly, Uh, I started off 330 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:32.119 the coach told me, of course, well, Brennan, that started as 331 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:36.279 g A and uh that year after he left, then Mackovic came in, 332 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.519 and Mackovic left and Hankowis came in. Then Stoop came in. I met 333 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:44.759 Stoops before he actually got the job, and when he came in, and 334 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:48.480 after coach Stope, they had I believe it was rich rod Rigus and then 335 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:53.720 somebing so uh, and then from Somembling to Finch. My high school coach 336 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:59.559 was under under Somembling, he played, he's a he's a coach there. 337 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.440 But you know, it's just been a lot of it's just a lot of 338 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.720 transition over the last twenty years. And I came back to UV in two 339 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:11.680 thousand and seven to seven to complete my degree, or to finished my degree 340 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:15.119 rather, So you know, I came back when coach Stops was there, 341 00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.200 Gronkowski was there, and a number of the other guys that were there that 342 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.359 did some things. So you know, I was there and seeing the transition. 343 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.680 But you know, being a Wildcat is more than the coaches. It's 344 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.319 it's you know, life goes on, but you definitely want to see your 345 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:34.559 program going in the right in the right direction. So to say where we 346 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.559 are now and given them the history of the coaches that we had then, 347 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.440 I mean, it's a good family guy, it's a doctor, it's a 348 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:47.039 good guy for the program. In my opinion, it's somebody who who can 349 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:51.799 do I believe good things for the university. In my honest opinion, the 350 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:53.480 guys here at Arizona and now they're going through a transition you know, from 351 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.640 a coach that by all accounts, you know, everybody loved. You know, 352 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:00.559 you went through that same thing, right, Victomy is gone, you 353 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:06.279 got Makovic and we can make comments about Macavic and how that whole thing turned 354 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:07.920 out, but you went through a period of time, you know, this 355 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.359 transition where you had to change coaches. Yeah, Nick, And what was 356 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.319 that like and how hard was that it was? It was believe it or 357 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:19.039 not. You know, it's it's very it's crazy because the world that these 358 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:23.000 guys are in right now and the way that they have to do things and 359 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.079 compete with all of these changes at the at the collegiate level. Man, 360 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.759 it really balls back down the basics. Uh, you know, you have 361 00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:33.880 to complete what you start. In my opinion, Uh, you can be 362 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.880 a good athlete and go to a school, it's an opportunity. Yeah, 363 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.319 you can take the risk of going somewhere else. But uh, the person 364 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.279 that followed through, in my opinion, Uh, is a person that's that 365 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.440 that that displays a lot of character and resilience. You know, we if 366 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:52.839 we talk about being resilient, if that's one of our coaching points, which 367 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.720 a lot of coaches use, Dictomy use that a lot, be resilient. 368 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.880 Uh. You know, it's it's one of those characteristics that uh you have 369 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.400 to display and and uh. But to answer your question, yeah, a 370 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:07.000 lot of it's difficult. It's difficult. So you don't know what the future 371 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:10.640 is, you don't know what's going to happen, you don't know who's coming 372 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:15.839 in. But the one consistent uh factor with all that is you what do 373 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.079 you display? What do you bring to the table as a player? Who 374 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:23.000 you base your performance on? What coach come in? You know, at 375 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.480 the end of the day, you know, the game is pretty simple. 376 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:32.559 It's office and defense uh and throwing touchdowns uh and and and hitting and tackling. 377 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.519 Those are the basic fundamentals of the game. Uh. And and if 378 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:38.359 you're a good quality player, you'll make a way, you'll find a way 379 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.440 to to to lead and to shine. And I think that's what's going to 380 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:48.160 separate or that's what's gonna be the biggest factor in my opinion of guys that 381 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.160 are coming into college now and in the future, because you know, anybody 382 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:53.640 can come to university and say, man, this coach is leaving, I 383 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.079 want to go somewhere else, and you have to start all over. But 384 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.079 you know, I definitely look at it as you know, if I wanted 385 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.480 to go somewhere, there's a reason why I wanted to go there. And 386 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:07.680 when I go somewhere as that's that's that's where I want to finish. Uh. 387 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:10.839 So you know, it's just a mindset, and I don't know if 388 00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:14.920 the younger generation is being taught and trained like that, but it's a certain 389 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:21.279 grit, uh about an athlete or to an athlete who want whatever they start, 390 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.720 they definitely want to finish and finish on a good note. So yeah, 391 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.119 that's that's my little two sits on it. I don't know if I 392 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:33.160 answered the question, but process, that's the bottom line. So you're in 393 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.160 Houston, obviously big twelfth country, But I wanted to talk to you about 394 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.839 success Arizon has We talk about this all the time because Jay's been here a 395 00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.720 long time. I've been here a long time. Arizona football has had it 396 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:47.559 hasn't been able to sustain the success. Uh, you know, they win, 397 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:48.880 and then you really well, and then they don't win, and then 398 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.559 they win, and then they don't win. What did you think of this 399 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:56.960 last year and maybe the future of the success because it seems like they just 400 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.599 need a kickstart where they can continue that success. It just doesn't happen. 401 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:07.519 Well. Yeah, you know, success is definitely uh determined by the guys 402 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:08.839 that are on the field. I mean, the coaches play a huge part 403 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.480 of it, and the hardest thing to do is is to not wrap your 404 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:18.039 mind around all of the stuff that's going on. Uh, that's one of 405 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.519 the biggest deals. I mean, if you're a guy that's a freshman that's 406 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:22.920 coming in or a sophomore that's coming in and you didn't getting plenty in time 407 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.640 and you have the opportunity to prove yourself from this new regime, then do 408 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.480 that. I mean, it don't matter which school you go to, if 409 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.720 you if you decide to transfer to some and Wales, you still have to 410 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.759 put your best foot forward and then you have to deal with new guys coming 411 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:42.920 in. So I think, uh, uh, it's it's a situation where 412 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.119 uh you just you just have to do your best, man, you really 413 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.559 do. You have to do your best, and you have to quiet all 414 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.519 the noise and and and kind of be selfish and make it about you and 415 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.319 make it a progressive thing every year in order to get better. But for 416 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.960 you of aid, you know, to bring somebody back has been a port 417 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.640 of of UH, the U of A history. I think they understand with 418 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:10.279 the value of what or of what U of A is trying to put out 419 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.720 in its athletes. And I think that's something that you can you can you 420 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.559 can build off of. But I really think the guys that have have put 421 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.559 into work last year and went and had a ten win season, of the 422 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:26.559 guys that are going to come back and continue that, continue that momentum. 423 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.839 It's a young group, it's a young class, and if they stick together, 424 00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.599 then they'll realize that, you know, being a Wildcat is something that 425 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.799 you offer life and and UH you you you make the team. You you 426 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.839 make the determination if the team is going to win and lose, because you 427 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:45.279 know what you have on your team. And so working together with the coach, 428 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.599 you know, you guys actually have a bright horizon being in a new 429 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.000 going to a new conference, having a young group of kids, having a 430 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.559 brand new coach. I mean you could be positively optimistic if you like, 431 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.119 and and you know what, where you go from MADS is your future and 432 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:06.960 having a taste of success. Uh, it's definitely u uh, it's definitely 433 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.200 uh something that will make you want to go out the next year and and 434 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.279 teatn be better than you were. So yeah, So Clarence, we're talking 435 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:21.160 to Clarence Farmer. Farmer Arizona running back. You know, you were here 436 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.880 at a time that was you know, it was tough, and no doubt 437 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.440 about it, but you know what, and then you know you thought enough 438 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:30.519 of the u of a to come back and get your degree. You know, 439 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.039 how, how did you when you look back on your experience at Arizona? 440 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.599 What what are the things that you think of? What? You know? 441 00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:38.960 What did you like about the place where? You know? Why did 442 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.440 you come back and do that? I love it. It was a lot 443 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:51.160 that I liked about Tucson was different in the two thousands coming in as opposed 444 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.279 to what it is now. I enjoyed. You know. The biggest thing 445 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.000 was just the transition from high school to college. Uh. That was a 446 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.000 big deal. You know, being in the region that I've never been in 447 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:04.359 before, having to be in the region that I haven't been in for four 448 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:11.039 years, but also taking a skill and a talent and using that as your 449 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:15.359 platform to build off of. And you know, with that mindset that I 450 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.200 was telling you earlier about being one of those guys who want to complete what 451 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.160 you start, that was the reason why I stayed at you. I had 452 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.319 different running back coaches, I had different head coaches, and not only guy 453 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.119 when I say I mean the team, the whole team. We had different 454 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.599 head coaches and stuff. So there's a lot of turbulence that we went through. 455 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:37.039 But throughout all of that, you have to find something in you that 456 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.279 makes you want to finish. Now in the landscape of well with these guys 457 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.839 are now, I don't know if it's I don't know if that's the mindset 458 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.839 that they have. The one and done mindset is kind of like sinking in. 459 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.559 But you know, my a cook milling is better than microwave then any 460 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:56.480 day. So you know, if you put time into what you're doing, 461 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.880 then hey man, you worth it. You're worth your decision, You worth 462 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.559 where you're going, and and and it, and it may prove to be 463 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:08.039 advantageous to complete where you uh uh, to complete where you are. But 464 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:11.480 if it's about the money, hey man, get kids to gonna go get 465 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.759 the money. Man. You know, I can't I can't be I can't. 466 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.000 I can't be caught up in my old ways of saying stay here man. 467 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.039 You know these guys are really trying to make a living and use me 468 00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:26.640 that uh, the leverage, the opportunity they have. So you know, 469 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.359 it's just a new climate. It's just a new climate. So at u 470 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.480 of a, like I said, it was just like it was a number 471 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.119 of things. It was the friends, it was the geographic location. It 472 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.960 was just it was a lot different than being in the South. Uh Uh 473 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.400 that I liked about the us A teachers, friends, professors. I mean, 474 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:47.759 it was just a number of things. So I can't really just say 475 00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:49.839 one thing and one breath what it was that that I like about you. 476 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:52.839 So I'm hoping you can. I hope you can answer this one. How 477 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:56.599 was it playing for Macovic? I was our play. I was my play 478 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.599 for Macavick. Mcavick was another coach, believe it or not. I'm not 479 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.960 gonna I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna get on here in bad Mouth to 480 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.599 guy. Uh, he definitely knew more about football from a political standpoint than 481 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.880 I did. I was just a young kid who had a whole lot of 482 00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.200 talent who want to do as much as he can with the opportunity while he 483 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.839 was there. So that's why I played baseball. Everybody know football, but 484 00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.680 believe it or not, I got drafted in baseball from the UMV and didn't 485 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:25.200 even get drafted in football. So it's it's a number of things that you 486 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:30.319 know that that that that that lines up on what I'm saying. Yeah, 487 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:31.680 you had a brand new coach come in, but that was the same year 488 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.920 that I led the conference in Russia and was a way for all Americans. 489 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.240 So it's not the coaches. That's that's the point that I'm driving now. 490 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.039 It's not the coach. It's it's who you and what you want to perform 491 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.839 and become. That is the end result of what you're gonna get out of 492 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.839 that. So you know, when I came to school, I intended to 493 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.119 do better than the next year that that I that I played, and that's 494 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:57.440 that's that's what I set out to do and that's what I believed I accomplished 495 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.200 in those years that I was there. But playing for Macavic. In my 496 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.200 opinion, I've had hardball, I had hard noise coaches in Texas, so 497 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.359 it wasn't nothing new to me. But you know, the political side of 498 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.119 it was what was new to me, and UH, that was a battle 499 00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.880 that I just wasn't ready for. UH, But it didn't stop me from 500 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:20.599 completing the objectives that I had to complete when I came to Arizona, which 501 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.240 was be the best UH student athlete that I could. And I believe I 502 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:30.759 accomplished that by overcoming the obstacles of getting kicked off the team, getting released 503 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.200 by the university, and then not being accepted coming back when I did want 504 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.559 to come back, and throughout all of that still persevering to getting my degree 505 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.720 of fishing up school. That's what I can take away from the whole experience 506 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.359 from the U of A. That will never that will never hold me back, 507 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.039 hold me down, regardless of what obstacle you putting from me, Coach 508 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:51.400 Mackovic, the time that I stayed away from the school, or any other 509 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.160 negative connotation that comes along with U of A and my relation UH to the 510 00:33:55.200 --> 00:34:00.519 school. So you know, doing your best and sticking it and and and 511 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.960 finishing is is my my, my mission, my model so complete what you 512 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.960 start, I don't even remember you all that. I don't remember half of 513 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:15.639 that. So now what they up to? What are you up to these 514 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:22.920 days? Uh? Living, living, enjoying life, looking at the perspective 515 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:28.880 of of life from uh just being a dad. Man. I was a 516 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.599 day when I say being a dad, being a parent man. You know, 517 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:36.800 Uh, it's just he's a different uh, dimensions of life that I'm 518 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.679 living right now because I'm actually observing I mean, uh, enjoying. Uh. 519 00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:45.440 I do have a love for sports. I still love football, I 520 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.079 love baseball, I love track and field, I love basketball, I love 521 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.199 all those sports. But it's it's more of a I feel like I'm the 522 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.639 coach now. You know. I have children and I definitely try to, 523 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:01.320 you know, impute these values in them about life because at the end of 524 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:06.400 the day, man, this this this sports life is brief, especially when 525 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.239 you get to college. You know, you may play, you may not 526 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.760 play, you may go to the next level, you may not go to 527 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.639 the next level, but you know who you are as a person. Uh, 528 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:20.280 You're definitely not the finished product in college. You know, that's just 529 00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.880 really that's really where the journey start. It's who you're going to become over 530 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:28.360 the years that that that really speak volumes of which you're actually trying to become. 531 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.800 So you know, that's just my little take on it. Okay, 532 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.599 well, Clarence, I appreciate you coming on. Fantastic, Thank you, 533 00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:39.280 Clariens appreciated. I hope you're doing well. Thank you all right, Clarence. 534 00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:43.880 Clarence Farmer thoughtful guy, Yeah, yeah, toughtful guy. Yeah. 535 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.400 Some I guess you know when he said I didn't think of that stuff. 536 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.400 I remember. Yeah, you know he had some issues with you know during 537 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.159 that that period of time, and you know it was off the team, 538 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.840 back on the team, and remember what he was a good player and that 539 00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.559 you didn't want to tackle. No, no, he was Jonah told me 540 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.880 before Jona Coma was Joone Coe. Yeah yeah, no, good stuff. 541 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:06.159 Okay. And the baseball stuff I can't remember that either. Yeah. Again 542 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.559 he brought you know, that's the thing that Clayence Farmer is one of those 543 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:12.159 guys that you know, he was a big athlete. Yeah, he was 544 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.800 a big part of things. But yeah, you forgot all the because he 545 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.480 he came out of time that people kept kind of like yeah, yeah, 546 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.280 yeah, one again. Right, Okay, I get it all right, 547 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.719 Let's let's take our last break. We'll be back. We'll take your calls. 548 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:35.000 Five T zero four one, six, seventy four forty. If you're 549 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.679 an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty years. 550 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.800 Now take a look back at the Loudolsen era. In my new book, 551 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:44.280 Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through the eyes of 552 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.159 twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight to the coach 553 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.320 and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them. 554 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.000 Twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. 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Here on Fox Sports sportswen fifty on Steve, He's Jay get sid 595 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.639 with us with a twelve minutes and we'd like to give us a quick call. 596 00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:59.039 That'd be grade five two zero for one six seventy four to forty. 597 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:01.800 Talked to Clarence. I hadn't seen him in forever, talked to him forever. 598 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.199 We skipped over this guy from the tight end from Miami who's got his 599 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:16.320 ninth year of eligibility of perform Yeah, twenty six years old. Gotta have 600 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:20.000 at least two kids, right, Doesn't there come a time that you want 601 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.840 to stop playing with kids? Right? Yeah? I feel like it's it's 602 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.800 just it feels wrong. University of Miami, Yeah, football, Yeah, 603 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.000 Miami, Florida. Yeah, nine years, nine years be his ninth year. 604 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.360 Yeah, he's had a bunch of injuries and stuff like that. So 605 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.920 missed some years, but then you had the COVID year, a medical red 606 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.039 shirt, and then a regular red shirt, and and it adds up to 607 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.199 he's gonna be this is gonna be his ninth season of college. How long 608 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:45.159 were you in college? Five? Six, seven, no? Nine? 609 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:49.360 I had a friend who took him nine years to get what was he studying 610 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:57.679 everything? Apparently? I mean, why didn't this guy become a jay at 611 00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.559 some point? Like, I don't know, probably knows a lot of stuff. 612 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.960 He's been through a few coaches. Yeah, you might talk about the 613 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:06.440 locker room. Man. You know, an eighteen year old kid comes in 614 00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:08.199 there and it's like I could be your father. Yeah, well, it 615 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.000 was kind of like remember Biby, Well back in the day when they were 616 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.280 jumping early Bibby was one of the first guys two years in and you know 617 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.920 he was nineteen, yeah, and going into the NBA, and is what's 618 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.000 the how are you gonna hang out? He had an entourage obviously, right, 619 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.760 but you remember that when you were the older when you were the older 620 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.039 guys, you know, where do you go because you can't go to you 621 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.199 can't go to the bars out You're gonna hang out with those guys and go 622 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:34.079 out and you do the things that they do strip clubs or whatever you know 623 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.519 they go do they do that? Yeah, yes, okay, I didn't 624 00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.880 know that the Miami especially, I guess, yeah, Miami, And I 625 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.039 think I think like I think like the country's like most popular strip club is 626 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.800 actually in Atlanta. Yeah, you know, because there's been a bunch of 627 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.559 guys, primarily NBA players, have gotten into issues at some place. I 628 00:41:52.559 --> 00:42:00.800 don't even know how did you know this? Just get I read I've never 629 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:01.880 been to Atlanta, just so you know. Oh yeah, yeah, it's 630 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.599 a great place. Great place. Yeah, finally I've had a final fours 631 00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.159 there. Yeah right, yeah, okay, anybody want to call five two, 632 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.840 four, one, six seventy? Uh sorry, we digressed from so 633 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.559 what else a basketball game? We can talk about that again. Oh you 634 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.280 know what another guy we didn't talk about? Jay was was not balla was 635 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.519 Boswell still kind of not shooting? Yeah, I mean, well, he 636 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.480 comes out, he hits a shot, He hits a shot right at the 637 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.840 start of the at the game, but then kind of disappeared again. Yeah, 638 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:46.239 remember I can't remember his Yeah, the second one, that's the third 639 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:52.039 one we're doing here. We're like the three Stooges. Wise guy. There's 640 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.199 a wise guy that he came out, like you said, he hit the 641 00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.920 shot and then I think he went four for whatever it was. I can't 642 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.920 four for twelve maybe, but not playing like the guy from November. And 643 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.760 he didn't start the second half and he didn't start and and Tommy said it 644 00:43:04.760 --> 00:43:08.000 wasn't about him. Uh JB as you called him, had been playing well, 645 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:13.599 has been playing well and offered us some spark. It's just collect it's 646 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.440 a collective effort that they're not playing up far. It's funny. I'm reading 647 00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.760 some internet stuff on my story and says, yeah, they're not they're not 648 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.880 doing what they're supposed to be doing, or that what's supposed what they had 649 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.079 been doing. They had been there. They're not the November December team. 650 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.000 Yeah, and that's that's true, you know, but yes, plenty of 651 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.559 time to get it get together. They're not going to be running into the 652 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:37.280 uh uh you know any any you know killer teams coming up in the PAC 653 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.559 twelve. Let's take this call. You're on the air and on them all. 654 00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:49.480 Yeah. I wanted to first congratulate uh Clarence Farmer on his journey. 655 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.840 It was a good story. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was 656 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.599 you know, it's good to hear and he sounds like he's just doing great 657 00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:02.960 over there. Yeah. Now my question, yeah, who do you think 658 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.280 will have the worst uh? And not to be negative, but the saddest 659 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:16.079 exit story from you of a football coaching history Larry Smith leaving in the middle 660 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:22.800 of the night without saying anything, or Jed Fish with us three minutes and 661 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:30.280 the U the U sad video he hosted. You know, I as as 662 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.599 somebody who's been here, I think you're hanging on Larry because people loved him. 663 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.840 He was here a while. You know, he was successful. He 664 00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.840 he you know, he really continues to be credited with being the guy that 665 00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.880 got you know, that got the program, uh, you know to a 666 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.440 to a higher level, you know, and then he left. So I 667 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:53.679 to me and from a if you're saying what's the saddest I think it was 668 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.840 that one. You know, there were a lot of people were really mad 669 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.679 about that. But a lot of people were really sad about that because he 670 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.920 was he He's very well liked and continue to be well like once the USC 671 00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:08.079 thing wore off after a few years. Yeah, well it took me a 672 00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.760 long time to get over then leaving in the middle of the night. Yeah, 673 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.239 that he did. But you know, listening to Glenn Howell and some 674 00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.159 of the old players, they love him, and I'm sure the yeah, 675 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.920 the newt the players now will love Jedfish. And you know, we should 676 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.679 have known with all his fourteen fifteen that he'd be bouncing sooner or later. 677 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.880 And I just want to say, I'm happy for Brent Brennan and I think 678 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.920 the I think our team's moving forward. Yeah. Let me ask you this. 679 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.760 Let me ask you if you remember this, because remember Arizona was in 680 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:49.280 the Aloha Bowl, and then you know has been chronicled he didn't come all 681 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.519 the way home with the team, He got dropped off in La took the 682 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:57.079 job. Then like the next week or two weeks later, he's coaching in 683 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.320 the Hula Bowl, that All Star game, and he's got u a sea 684 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.559 gear on, and that really made people mad. Do you remember that? 685 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.920 Do you remember seeing that or do you have any recollection of that? You 686 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.400 know, I don't remember the detail of that, but I mean at all. 687 00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.519 I mean that's a foreshadow for sure. Yeah, but I remember everybody 688 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:21.239 was upset that show. But aftermath, yeah, yeah, and I remember 689 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.840 people, and I remember people being really upset because there was a picture if 690 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:29.440 I called, there was a picture in the paper and Larry is in USC 691 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:34.199 gear and right next to him is an Arizona player that was on the team 692 00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.559 that was on the I can't remember who it was. It would had to 693 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:42.000 have been it was eighty six. I don't know who it was, John 694 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.519 Horton or one of those guys. I don't know, but I just remember 695 00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.360 that and that stung too. I remember that one stinging as well. So 696 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:51.920 all right, thank you for calling me. Do you appreciate it? I 697 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.320 don't. I don't want to live in the negative. Yeah, we're in 698 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:59.840 a positive space now, and hope some of the players stay. And if 699 00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:04.639 they do, I think they'll they'll have a great experience. I agree with 700 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.519 you. If you can hold it together, we can still have a good 701 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.159 season. The last thing I want to throw out is if these top players 702 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:17.079 go and they get more nil money or whatever I mean with For example, 703 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:22.840 Noah Fafida and all his family who come and travel to the games, he 704 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:27.239 can prop they can probably travel up to the rainy Seattle and watch the games 705 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.199 up there. But it seems like it would be an advantage for a lot 706 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.440 of the so called juice players to be able to and their families to still 707 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.480 attend somewhat locally. Well, I hope that's something that there's is a factor 708 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:44.559 right now. Well, like the po thing with his death, always here 709 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.159 driving in the car, coming down, he's gone. Well now he's gone 710 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:50.440 gone, he's jumped in the portal. All right, we do appreciate the 711 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.000 call, thanks bunch. All right, so let me ask you something. 712 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.559 I love Tucson. I've been here a long time. I never really wanted 713 00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:01.000 to leave. But I'm gonna throw this question saying, did the Smith thing 714 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.440 hurt partially because to Soldan's back in the day forty years ago, felt that 715 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.400 they weren't good enough where it was a point where you could do that here 716 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.639 you know, we're not good enough. No, it wasn't that, you 717 00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:16.480 know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. I 718 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:22.400 know. I think it was more about the we're so good? Why it's 719 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:24.159 so good here? Why would you ever want to leave? Yeah, there 720 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:29.960 was that well yeah, that's still kind of the yeah, but it's kind 721 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.760 of like, why would you leave this place. It's it's it's beautiful. 722 00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:39.079 It's beautiful. It's a cool place, you know. And I remember the 723 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:44.159 the next year. I remember Arizona played up there the next year. So 724 00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.960 the first time they had faced Larry Smith was the year in UH in l 725 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.639 A. And you know, I guess it probably Magruder uh covering the Jack 726 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:57.119 McGruder covering that team, and he destroyed, you know, it did the 727 00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:01.000 story with on Larry and talk and lay talked about how how much he had 728 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.159 to get used to living in LA And the one point that stuck with me 729 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.639 is how you know he would drive to he would drive himself to work right 730 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:12.079 like you could do here, and it would take him forever. So he 731 00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:16.440 eventually ended up hiring a driver so that he could do work on the way 732 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.559 into work and that and then how he really hated it. But you know 733 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.519 what got lost during all that at that particular time was the whole deal about 734 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:30.599 contracts in the state of Arizona. It was one year, the state laws 735 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:34.199 had one year counture and he and us he gave Hi a five year deal. 736 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.639 So uh, you know, in the end, you don't and again 737 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:39.440 it was usc you don't blame him for leaving. It was one of those 738 00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:44.559 things just people felt, you know, thought he was dug in here and 739 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:45.920 then he was going to be here twenty years and then he took the USC 740 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.480 job. Didn't part of the story. And I don't want to, but 741 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.519 I don't want to get this wrong, and you tell me if I'm wrong. 742 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:52.960 Didn't he flip them? He? Oh, he flipped off the fans 743 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:59.320 the year before eighty five flipped off. Oh oh, then he's came back 744 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.679 for that finally year. Yeah. Yeah. The eighty five thing was what 745 00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:07.559 happened was they were playing U c l A here and they were in the 746 00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.760 hunt for for a uh you know, to win the conference, and they 747 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:16.840 got beat and and uh you know, fans boot him, and he threw 748 00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.519 the finger at the fans. Then the next week they come and they beat 749 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:22.920 Oregon and get into the Sun Bowl, and you're back, yeah, you're 750 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.679 back in love with him. And it was the first time here, you 751 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.880 know, Arizona had gone to a bowl game since uh, the fest to 752 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.280 bow with Tony Mason in seventy nine. But he yeah, he's you know, 753 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:34.400 he threw the finger at the fans because they were booing the hell out 754 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.480 of him, and yeah, this should have been booing him. He had, 755 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.800 he had really good you know, Brownie. And then and then he 756 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.440 beat a s U again. You know, you know he didn't lose to 757 00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.079 a s U after after the eighty one season. You know, you want 758 00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.000 to you want to beat him in eighty two, eighty three, eighty four, 759 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:53.320 eighty five, and eighty six. So I don't think it was that 760 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.840 we didn't that you weren't adequate, We weren't adequate. It was that this 761 00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.440 is a great place. You know, I'm insulted that you would leave. 762 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.760 That's what it was. I get that because I saw that with when Sean 763 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:07.639 was going to get take a job where Maryland or whatever, and someone one 764 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:09.920 of my friends, and we would know, why would you leave Tucson. 765 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:13.760 Well, you're gonna pay a lot of money to go live somewhere else. 766 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.920 Yeah, that's affordable with four or five million dollars, right, you know, 767 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:21.760 that's what it was. And you know, okay, and then Dick 768 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:23.280 Tommy came here and they ran him out. Geez. Yeah, well you 769 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.719 fickle fans, we're a bunch of butt heads. Yes, yes, you 770 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.559 really are. All right, good show, good stuff, Thank you, 771 00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.239 Clarence Farmer for being here. Dave Rubio, hope you're enjoying your retirement and 772 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.000 coaching those little kids in volleyball. And tomorrow we've got Jake Fisher will get 773 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.679 his take on on all that's developed over the last couple of weeks, and 774 00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.119 Yogi Roth from a Pac twelve Networks. He's been high on Bret Brendan, 775 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.400 so we'll see what he's got to say about the higher here at Arizona. 776 00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:49.639 So be sure to come back tomorrow