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You're listening to your worst friend,
Going You're listening to your worst friend was

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Shane and Matt Going Deeper, season
four. I'm joined today by my friend

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and co host Shane Hello, and
our special guest. She is wonderful.

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We followed each other a while ago. I doubt she even knows that,

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but I think she even liked something
from season one of our show. I

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believe I forget who it was and
I should dig into that, and I

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like commented in the message. I
was like, oh my god, we

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would love to have you on ONYX. Blah blah blah, and then never

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heard again. And then she joined
the pr agency that we also work with,

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so we were able to book her. Ladies and gentlemen. Today we

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have on ONYX. Muse let me
get a let me get all your plugs

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out here, cup, cup cup. Yeah. I'm kind of like a

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podcast for in a sense. I
love going on. I mean, I

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have a podcast, so I like
to indulge on other podcasts. Sure,

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I totally understand it. I'm I'm
gonna have to go back in search and

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figure out who specifically you liked individual
post for each one and blah blah blah.

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But let me get your plugs out
of the way. Twitter is onyx

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mus x x X. Instagram is
onyx mus XO until of course you lose

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that one again. What number are
we on here? Oh god, I'm

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on six. Okay, there you
go, so it'll change, but don't

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worry, we'll update that in all
the episode description a threat. You can

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go to onyxsocialclub dot com onyxmus dot
com, which is going to take you

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to her free only fans, but
we don't we push that one if you're

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real broke. What I really want
you to do is go to the page

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one. Okay, and that's on
x meus xxx dot com. Right,

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do you give anything good there?
Yes? Okay, wonderful. You know,

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totally understand I. I mean,
we rally about it all the time.

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But the way they treat uh,
porn star, sex workers, strippers,

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whatever is just so ridiculous with the
kind of shit they ban you for

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and then the stuff they allow on
this side. Yeah, yeah, you

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know it's crazy. Is when I
post my videos of me dancing because I

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train at a pole studio, so
I'm legitimately out of studio and they still

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kind of like flag me for that. Yeah, you know, that's the

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same with my wife. She teaches
at a a pole studio and it's been

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like a struggle. She's on her
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uh, you know she's yeah,
she's got her like only fans hustle too,

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and that like is you know,
a mad and you know, you

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can't fit any of the guidelines because
the guidelines are so loose, so they

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just they just find anything to ban
you for. But any like I have,

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like I'll just have a normal post, and because they've been deleted so

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many times, it's like they flag
stuff that is not even sexually suggestive.

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So I don't know. I guess
I'm just a sexually suggestive person. But

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you've got a certain look to you. Yeah, I do. I do.

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It gets me in trouble all the
time. Mine too. I'm not

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allowed around middle schools. Um.
So you guys, are you guys are

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close? I think right? Are
you based out of Vegas or are you

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based somewhere else? Okay, Shane's
reno which is Nevada, Nevada in the

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house. See, I have no
concept of it because I'm in Jersey,

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so I'm like, oh, New
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away. Though. Yeah it's nice. I like it. Your access to

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everything and you don't have to necessarily
deal with the big city. But every

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time someone says Vegas, I go, oh, Shane, you guys are

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like six hours away, right,
something like that in a car. I

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mean we could fly there an hour. Yeah, I understand. I never

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actually been to right now. It's
like Vegas but cold. Oh I don't

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know if I like that because Vegas
cold is not fun. Yeah, it's

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not fun either way. Um,
so ONYX, can I ask you how

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did you so? Okay? I
was going through your history and I like

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doing my research on all of our
guests and whatever. That's what I tell

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my wife at least anyway, fucking
research and get out of here, get

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out of here, gets his homework
technically, Um, what are you currently

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working on? Because I saw you
had shot stuff in the past, but

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then I saw you were directing stuff
at some point, I thought, And

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then I know you dance as well, So what is like your main and

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I think you cammed at one point
too, right? Are you just a

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renaissance I'm a little I'm a little
versatile, so I'm all over the place.

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My main thing that I'm working on
is my company. So I have

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an agency that I'm working on where
I'm in the process of I help girls

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get started with only fans and webcamming
because I personally think webcamming is still very

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lucrative and of course I still um
so I have like a management company that

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helps run my only fans, which
gives me a lot of time to like

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you know, where I can really
focus on creating my own content. So

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right now, like I have like
I'm in my studio right now where I

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create most of my content, but
I just got access to this amazing house

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where I can also utilize it to
my content. I can help other content

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creators. But yeah, I'm kind
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So this convention Champs trade show,
they added the adult industry, and what

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I want to kind of bring to
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of a vim and exoticas to it. There's still just a lot of groundwork

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to do because it's funny because you're
around cannabis, like corporate companies and stuff

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like that. So and they've just
been really awesome to me. I was

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one of the first porn stars that
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I saw the value in it as
jumping in. I know there's going to

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be a lot of trial and errors, but now I'm actually acquiring a lot

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of sponsors. So I do the
podcast because I think it's great. I

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think it's all and to like bring
on other ladies or or even men,

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like other content creators that are in
my industry. But then I can also

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work with um cannabis companies. So
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very very good. I you know, I dance at Rhino out here.

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Um, I'm pretty fucking uh great
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now, so I've been traveling.
Um, I have a feature coming up

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at Sapphires in New York Sapphires thirty
nine. Um so yeah, I'm kind

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of like, uh, I'm well
rounded. Main thing too, is I'm

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a mom, so I focus on
being mom. I have to balance out

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my sex world life and my mom
life. Sure, how how have you

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balanced that out? Now? I
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that question, are you worried at
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shit like that? When you're kidding? No, Ill, fuck it,

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I'll tell them to go fuck off
now. Actually, um, I definitely

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had to make some sacrifices you know
before when I was a performer, especially

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like camming and stuff, I could
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now I've Um, I really balance, like I choose, like obviously my

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mornings are with my daughter, and
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like solely for her, usually like
Sundays. I kind of take Sundays off

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that's mine and her day. Um, you know, do I get pushed

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back sometimes? Um? Yes,
But also like I do my mom shit,

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like I make sure checking on my
nannies and stuff. So it's like,

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even if I'm doing my work,
I'm not at all like have her

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off my mind. Definitely. I
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gonna be a whole other inch a
lot of that. I'll just cross that

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bridge when I get to But I'm
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and stuff. Like I got red
hair and tattoos, so I'm already pretty

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controversial, so I already know it's
out. You know what. You just

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use those PTA meetings as as every
time you show up, you're gonna get

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probably fifteen more subscribers to your friends. I know their husbands will definitely be

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lurking. Um. But what's funny
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is like watching my daughter just like
grow into this little human and now and

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she's already bossy, Like she's already
sassy. So um. I had her

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deal play date with my friend's son
that was her age, and she's like

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taking all his toys, bossing him
around. And then she's like a manipulator.

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She like goes to his mom and
she goes, hey, he's not

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sharing. And I was like,
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by the time she goes to school. Sociopath. So, how did you

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initially get into the industry? What
is your first step into any whichever one

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of the many industries you are working, and what was your first step in?

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Well, naturally, I genuinely did
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adult industry. I kind of gone
to this crazy relationship and dabbled into DSM

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and it was super hot and he
knew a lot of corn stars, and

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then it was just at the point
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this is we weren't getting along after
that and stuff, and I caught it

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off, and I just told him, I was like, you know,

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breaking up with him peacefully, and
he did not like it, and so

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he actually blackmailed me and extorted,
like threatened to put pictures and videos of

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me on the internet. Because before
the adult industry, I actually was a

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professional dancer, like I did go
go dancing at nightclubs and I had my

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own company where I was booking other
girls who were go go dancers, not

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strippers at all. And I was
actually, you know, I was working

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with a lot of nightclubs, especially
the Live Nation, where I was also

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getting budget from like outfits and stuff
like costume budget. And I was in

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this really weird predicament, like I
never had anybody do something like that,

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and so I would like hang out
with I was hanging with the porn girls,

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and they were like, why don't, like, why don't you just

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like join the industry, and I
was just like, oh my god.

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I was like yeah, I was
like I can never do that like that,

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that's crazy, and they and they
just kind of like put in my

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head They're like, well, if
you get kind of like some notoriety,

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maybe it will like get them off
your bat. And it just got to

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the point where I was like tired
of the threats and so I just hit

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them back. I was like,
you know why, I was like,

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fuck you, I'll beat you to
it. And so I did the industry.

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I knew some of the people in
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did it in my own in my
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full deep into it, but I
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you know, and then once I
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of opportunities like webcamming and um,
you know, I had girls who I

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knew from go go dancing who were
sort of interested to make more money.

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They didn't want to necessarily get into
the adult industry per se. So I

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was really driven on the fact that, you know, I can help be

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an outlet to women who you know, want to get in. Um,

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they just want to know how to
do it without, you know, the

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fear of being exploited like myself.
That's what I was going to say.

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It seems like you were doing the
good thing. Now you're stepping up and

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being the anti your boyfriend that got
you into it initially. Yes, have

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you always been an entrepreneur, because
I mean you've just named three different companies.

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You've started here, and I'm going
it took me ten years to start

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a fucking podcast, Like yes.
Actually, at nineteen, I was well,

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I mean first, like I had
a sand much job when I was

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in like high school. I worked
at Quiznos, and then I was like

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a manager at a game stop,
and then I worked at Hooters. And

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the Hooters is like the gay way
because I remember we went to a party

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and this guy he had like it
was like for a crunk energy drink and

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he was like, hey, like, do you want to work for energy

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drink company? We'll pay you twenty
five dollars an hour, give you a

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company car, and all you got
to do is these promos. And he

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was like yes, And he was
like do you have friends? I was

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like absolutely. I lived in a
house, I had seven roommates and like

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four of my girlfriend and worked at
Hooters with me. And then there was

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like this whole like invoicing that none
of the girls wanted to do. So

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I was like, hey, I'll
do your invoices, break me off,

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and so I kind of always stepped
into that. But I was at nineteen,

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I was illegal secretary for an attorney
who taught me like so much.

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But those people were miserable and I
was like, I gotta get out of

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here. And I had got out
of a really bad relationship and I was

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like, I'm moving to LA and
I'm going to start a company where I

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helped like Go Goo danswers because one
of my girlfriends was doing it. I

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really wanted to do it. And
he gave me a contract and he was

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like you remember like everything I say, right, And I was like yeah,

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and he's like anything in entertainment,
He's like, give them this contract,

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and so I was like okay.
So I would you know, a

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lot of like the go Go gigs
and stuff. They were all kind word

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of mouth or like you know,
verbal agreements, and so I'm like this

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little girl and I'm like they're like, yeah, I want you to work.

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You know. It would be like
four hours for a hundred dollars,

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twenty minute sets, twenty minute off. It was a lot of dancing.

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But I would hit them with the
contract and people were kind of like,

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I go, who the fuck are
you? But then after a while they

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were like okay. Because anytime,
like like there was issues where sometimes they

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wouldn't pay girls. So I would
hit them, I'd be like, yeah,

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I'll fucking sue you. And I
got it in writing, and so

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then they want it fuck with me, and so it just kind of came

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into this system. And I've always
been a like a woman supporter. I

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want to help girls. I'm not
ever competitive with other women, you know,

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because I know that if we work
better in numbers, we work too

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great better together in numbers than just
on your own. Yeah, that makes

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total sense to me. And it
makes sense that you're looking now to get

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into the cannabis game too, because
it's kind of well, I don't know

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if it's necessarily a natural I guess
it's a natural fit. Not probably not

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on a porn set. Well,
I'll tell you one thing. I was

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actually in cannabis before before I joined
the industry. I was a bud a

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tender at a lot of different you
know, dispensaries when it was medical during

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Prop two fifteen in LA and then
I became a manager from one of the

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dispensaries and I actually trained bud tenders
and it was a good time. And

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we are also a consumption lounge,
so it would be funny. I would

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have guys come in three times a
day. But even women, and I

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used to have people they would specifically
wait for Arne because you know, at

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first it was like, oh,
you're a hot girl, come work.

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I did have an incident with a
patient who um, you know, he

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had cancer, and he was a
little upset because at first it's always natural

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to say, oh, well,
I'll give you like the best top shelf,

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but that didn't technically help for him. So then I, you know,

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I fixed it. But then I
was like, wow, I need

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to like smoke everything, so I
kind of know like what I'm giving them,

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and it really helped in my in
my work because like people will tell

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me what they wanted, and I
knew what to give them. So yeah,

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and then I also I trenned and
then my brother he lives in San

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France, so I actually went harvested
in Oregon form a crazy two weeks.

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I mean it was beautiful, but
it was also kind of scary. So

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I don't know why. I love
lead. I love the whole cannabis industry.

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So it was really funny. Like
I used to kind of like,

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you know, I would put on
a different cape when I would do cannabis

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because they didn't want to be like, hey, by the way, I'm

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a porn star too, you know. And then when cannabis kind of really

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started to get accepting of it,
then I was like kind of all about

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it. So we talked to Gauge. Gauge was a big porn star when

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Shane and I were in high school. Just a classic. She's a classic,

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and she had the idea of coupling
porn stars with almost like a male

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retreat, going out to the woods, shooting guns, doing stuff like that

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is your idea at some point to
merge stripping and cannabis or porn stars cannabis

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or I would love that. Actually, when so my brother had I remember

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I was like dancing and I was
kind of like out of porn and it

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was just like camming at that time, and I was like dancing in La

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This was actually before um they changed
the laws with California. And my brother

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calls me and he's like, oh, we're having like ten days of rain,

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like really need like people. He's
like, now you're into like cannabis.

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He's like, would you ever like
come out here, like I'm here,

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And it was kind of crazy,
but he's my brother, so I

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knew I was going to be safe. And when I went out there,

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it was like more like I don't
know, it felt like very therapeutic that

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we would literally like go out there
and there was the whole like ritual like

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you would pray to the plant before
you like cut it down, and they

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were really like um encouraging to like
you know, you want you need to

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eat organic food. So like my
skin felt really good. I wore no

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makeup, and then it was is
literally you wake up, you cut the

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tree, and then you're cutting a
different part, you know, you trim

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it down, and then it's like
you fill this bag up and that's your

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money and I and you know,
you make a good money. And I

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almost like I asked like a bunch
of my girlfriends because it wasn't like maybe

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like the shop club wasn't like super
popping at the time, so I was

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like, oh my god. I
was like, girls, like we should

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come out here, we should like
trim like get the stuff going. It's

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kind of beautiful and you know,
maybe take a break from like men,

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you know, making our money that
way. And I almost like I got

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a bunch of girls that were down, and then I went out to the

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location before just to make sure because
you know, I'm responsible for any girls

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that go out there. And the
guy got fucking weird right away. Like

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I flew in and he immediately was
like yeah, He's like, I don't

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think I'm gonna have your brother around
on this time. And I was just

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like, I was like why.
He's like, oh, He's like why

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why you quiet? I'm like,
well, if you're not gonna have my

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brother, I'm like, I'm not
coming and I'm not bringing my girls.

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But you know, so if there
was something where I didn't have to deal

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with that type, I am meeting
some really amazing like people in the industry

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that can connect me to farms that
if I were to do something like that,

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I would love to. Um,
I have to make sure, you

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know, safety safety first always,
Well what about this, you get a

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little cabin fever out there too,
totally totally understand it. What maybe you

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shoot some content then if everybody's just
a little old. I had had some

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online. I've had people offer like
their farms to me that like, I

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have you and your girlfriends want to
shoot like content. I'm like, I'm

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totally down, you know, but
I also have hold backs because of my

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situation. So as long as it's
safe, like fuck, yeah, yeah,

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we want to be respectful to the
plants. I don't want to like

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contaminate them with our booty. Sure
you also don't want leather face coming out

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of the fields that I don't know
if I take it up some farmer saying,

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hey, if you want to come, shoot content. But that's just

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me. Maybe I'm overly cautious.
You mentioned the strip club and what I

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would like to do if we can, and this is on the fly.

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You had no warning on this.
Okay, I want to see if the

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three of us can brainstorm five rules
for being a stripper, five rules for

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being a patron Oh, I got
it? Okay, all right, all

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right, well big cock Okay,
that's doesn't fit anywhere. Don't really matter,

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big wallets, yeah yeah, okay, all right, all right,

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all right, So you and I
are going to different clubs. I guess,

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yeah, we're going to different clubs. Rules for being a stripper.

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So right off the bat, say
you're walking into a new club or something

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you would tell a new girl,
right you're sitting down this new girl.

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She's pretty, but she's new in
the club. It's in okay club,

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meaning like the people are fine,
but people want to make their money,

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right, So what's the first rule
you would give a stripper and learn your

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stripper etiquette? Okay? Meaning,
and I know a lot of newbies don't

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have this anymore, Like this is
a dying thing, and I think clubs

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still need to respect this. When
a girl is on stage and those customers

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that are on stage, you have
any nerve to walk up to that customer.

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By that girls on stage, she
has the right to tell you to

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go fuck off in front of the
customer. Fair enough, she will embarrass

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you because that's you only get one
moment where you're really on stage, you

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know, not sometimes clubs, you're
only on stage for one time. Okay,

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So why are you taking her shine
away from these little bit of guys

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that are at the stage when there's
a full room to go work? If

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you go, focus on the full
room. But if she goes and tells

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you off and you want to go
run to the manager, you ain't built

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for this industry. Fair enough.
Now, I'm a guy, and a

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pretty unattractive one at that. So
I'm gonna make up a rule here,

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and you tell me if this seems
like one that would fit for strippers.

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Make sure you're tipping the appropriate people, the DJ, the house mother.

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Whatever. Does that make sense?
Yeah, majure, you're coming in with

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more money than just a dream.
Sure, Okay, all right, I

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got a rule. I gotta rule. All right, let's let's hear this

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one. Something I having a big
car, have the biggest cock. No,

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I think will appreciate this, Okay, No, know how to work

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the poll? Like actually know some
pole? Yes, know how to to

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like, you know, spin,
at least know how to climb the pole?

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Like how many times have I been
to a strip club and they won't

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even touch the thing, you know, like they just kind of wiggle around.

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I agreed to actually, like,
you know, I do my due

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diligence that I go to pool classes. I train, I mean because I

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naturally enjoy it. But you know, there's a difference when you're giving that

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girl the title of a dancer and
she does not dance. However, I

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will say a lot like when I
first started learning poll, I ghetto taught

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myself at first, but I watched
the girls and I actually like tried.

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But yeah, like the strip club
does not teach you. And it's like

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there's a poll for a reason.
So if you're gonna lie be in this

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industry, attempts to like learn Oh
on YouTube, there's there's tons of total

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stuff. Let's call it learn some
moves, all right. You can't just

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be a chick standing up there.
Pretty is not enough? Yeah, not

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enough? Okay? Do you have
another rule? Because I have one and

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I don't know, but I don't
want to jump in front of you.

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I don't want to literally make all
the rules for being a stripper, as

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I've never been one. I want
to say, bring everything. Bring everything

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in your bag, meaning all your
fucking makeup, all your bodies, gray,

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multiple outfits. If you want to
bring multiple shoes, you can bring

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all our scissors, fucking glue,
like whatever you need, even if you're

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not going to use it, because
there's going to be a time where you're

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at work and you need something.
So it's better to pack more than less.

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Probably fair. Let me give you
mine, Shane, if you have

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another one, and maybe it's better
than this, or maybe Vonyx has one

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that's better than this. Don't get
sloppy, oh yeah right, right them

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drunk, get them sloppy. You
don't get sloppy. Yeah, I do.

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I do a thing and I want
to put like my my thaying out

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there. But I'll take some drinks, and especially because I'm in Vegas,

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because most of the clubs are twenty
four seven or they're like going back to

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twenty four seven. So I'll like
take two SEPs, a couple of SEPs,

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and then I put it down and
then maybe I'll get Michael coffee or

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a red Bull to like keep myself
up. But I like make sure that

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they're drinking all the drinks. So
what about this, I just thought this

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up. Take a shot and then
have a water chaser, but then you're

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spitting it in the water. Might
work too, That's a possibility. I

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don't know. It's like okay,
like sometimes these guys it can pass.

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But some of them, because it's
like they bought it, they do get

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a little crazy. They'll do like
go like watch you drink it and whatever.

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They'll watch you spit the bourbon back
into the water. I mean,

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you know, maybe get like m
a chaser that like a pineapple juice or

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whatever, cranberry juice, so they
can't really tell that you did that.

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Now, why are you? If
we can five rules for being a patron,

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so you should be able to help
us with this only because identify the

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things you don't want to see out
of a fucking patron. Yeah, I

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don't want to see men. Get
off the fucking wall. We see you.

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There's always men try to like hang
on the wall, sit the fuck

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down. Down, will come to
you if you're on the wall, Like,

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we'll still come to you, but
you're making it harder. So they

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had a full nude club in Philly
called day Dreams for a while. I

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think it actually just recently shut down. And we all went after work one

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day for like a like a not
retirement because it was a shitty job.

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Someone was just quitting. So we're
like, let's all get together and blah

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blah blah, and it's full nude. They dance on stage and then they

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come around. You give a dollar
for the front, dollar for the back

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and whatever. And everyone had never
been there before except me and my wife,

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right, and I'm putting the money
up from my wife because you know

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I got it, she ain't got
fine. So at the end of it,

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I'm going through the roll call and
I'm going how much I got no

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lap dances. They were also doing
a thing where you could pick a hole

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and lick whip cream off of it
for thirty bucks. Did not do that.

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At the end, we're doing the
roll call and I go, how

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much did you spend a Lista?
And she's like twenty five dollars? And

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how much did you spend Duffy thirty
five dollars? And how much did you

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spend a Jen forty dollars? And
I looked and I spent almost four hundred

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dollars on no lap dances, no
fucking whip cream licking or anything like that.

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It was their first time, so
I'm not going to give them shit.

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But rule number two, tip tip
tip, when you feel sick of

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tipping, tip some more. Yeah. I like that rule. Okay,

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all right, because we've we've had
so many interviews where we talk to girls

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and they go, yeah, there's
some nights when after paying the house fee

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and tipping this guy and doing whatever, I would go home and lose money.

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And that just makes me sick to
my stomach, right, I mean,

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it's sad guys. Some guys don't
even realize we have to pay a

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house fee to work. You know, we gotta pay, we gotta pay

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to play. Is that, let
me ask you, then, is that

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a set number burnt generally in an
area. Does it depend on how big

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the club is? I know it
depends on different states. Different policy is

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Vegas is pretty standard, but you
know every club is different. But you're

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arranging about anywhere from like one hundred
dollars to maybe even I think Sapphires is

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like a lot, like one hundred
and twenty or something. But I know

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on the East Coast, like I've
danced in New York and I've danced in

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Miami. You know you're talking about
like two hundred dollars high speed. Wow.

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Wow, alright, um, let's
come up with another rule for patrons.

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I got one thing, all right, go ahead, no gym shorts,

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no flip flops, okay, all
right, Hey, can't go in

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there looking like a stinker. Good
rule because there is some guys like coming

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00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.240
in with the sweatpants. But that's
nasty. Dude, probably just played basketball

410
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:06.200
or something at the y or they're
just looking to have a rub, yeah,

411
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:08.640
to feel everything. But let me
know, dude, I got a

412
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:13.000
pretty good rup through my jeans.
Well that's what I was that. That

413
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.359
was what I was going to ask. Doesn't it suck if you're giving a

414
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:21.160
grinding lap, dance on a pair
of like not broken in fucking jeans or

415
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:24.880
are you just dealing with Yeah,
yeah they do. It's like you know,

416
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.200
you you you just want to put
your butt in their face because you're

417
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:34.680
like, oh, it all depends. You know. There's the quality of

418
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.599
the pants. Sometimes there's been pants, or it doesn't bother but yeah,

419
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:45.759
like like drug, you know,
dress yourself up on what's what's a nice

420
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:51.119
middle ground? Then how about like
khakis? Khakis are like fine, okay,

421
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:54.079
all right, not too bad,
not too bad, dress appropriately?

422
00:32:54.160 --> 00:33:00.599
Okay, I'm taking notes on all
of this. I like that. And

423
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.960
how about do we have another one? Patrons um? You know what I

424
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.519
hate. I hate the guys,
you know, especially if they buy a

425
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:17.039
bottle or they buy drinks with their
boys and they have this little shitty thing

426
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.960
to say they just just came here
to drink. Fuck yo, Like you

427
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.920
didn't come here to drink. Otherwise
you would have just went to the local

428
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.799
bar. Like stop using an excuse. You can't walk into an AMC and

429
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.599
go, I just came here to
drink. You're seeing a fucking movie.

430
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:38.640
I wanted the popcorn right right,
which I have done before I have literally

431
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:44.519
walked into an AMC and just bought
popcorn. Um, and then rule,

432
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:45.559
all right, let's come up one
more. Do you have any more?

433
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:51.480
Because I had one one more role? Like, guys, can we stop

434
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:57.079
with the well what happens in the
VIP? Just ask for the menu?

435
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.839
Just ask for the menu? All
right, that's fair. See, I

436
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.720
thought you were gonna say, we're
not gonna tell you don't allude to it.

437
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.440
You cut to the chase, is
what you're saying. Cut to the

438
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:13.079
chase, the options. And now
I'll say this. I'll say this what

439
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.639
I say every guy, you know
what happens back there? When you go

440
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:20.960
back there, you find out?
Sure, there you go. Yeah,

441
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.639
I can find out what's in Pandora's
box without opening it. Uh, there

442
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.800
you got scanner. Damn. I
had a good box joke there, but

443
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.519
I just didn't. I didn't pull
the trigger on it. And I should

444
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.519
have something about finding out what's in
her box? Um, hold on,

445
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:39.519
let me google it real quick.
I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't.

446
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:44.920
I couldn't formulated the joke was in
there, and I just meant to throw

447
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.800
it in the Oh no, no, no, I found it, dude.

448
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.239
I looked it up. Okay,
good. Um, I don't know

449
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.760
what that bit was. Uh,
here's one one question I have for you.

450
00:34:55.920 --> 00:35:00.639
Right, so I'm a patron at
the club and I'm there and the

451
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.599
unfortunate girl comes up to me.
She maybe wasn't necessarily blessed by God with

452
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:17.000
the best looks or personality or teeth
um um or anything. How do how

453
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.639
does one let a girl know,
especially if they're lingering. They're lingering right

454
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.440
right, So this is what you
say, Hey, honey, Um,

455
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.719
I'm good right now, but maybe
maybe maybe later, I'm just here with

456
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:37.159
my friend, Okay, fair enough. What if that doesn't take? If

457
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:43.079
that doesn't take, then you say, I'm I'm here with I'm waiting for

458
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.639
a girl. There you go,
fair enough? All right, ladies and

459
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:50.719
gentlemen, That's what I mean.
She may even come back after that.

460
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.239
And then by the third time,
you just need to be honest, just

461
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.719
let her know. Hey, you
might as well go work the room.

462
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:02.440
Um um, we're not this This
not my type necessarily. What's okay?

463
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.719
Like, like I think, guys, it's really funny because my manager does

464
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.280
this all the time, and you
know, like when a group of guys

465
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:13.960
comes in you want to immediately go
to them and then you sit with them.

466
00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:17.960
It's like so many guys are scared
to like express what they really feel,

467
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.559
so they feel obligated to like do
the dance with that girl and then

468
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:28.800
like you know, you go like
say I go sit on them later and

469
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.039
they go, well where were you
in the beginning, because I would have

470
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:36.320
got my dance with you what already
show my money And it's like, well,

471
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.360
have some fucking balls and say,
like you didn't want that girl?

472
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:43.400
Sure, sure that makes sense to
me because when guys come in, this

473
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.719
happens all the time. You sit
on them and they go and I just

474
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.920
wanted to get my drink first.
You know, you want to come back.

475
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.960
And then it's like I always tell
guys, I'm like, if you

476
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:58.719
tell me to come back, I'm
not coming back because I'm gonna be going

477
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.119
getting somebody out. I mean,
and you know I'm in Vegas, so

478
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.039
there's always people coming in. Now, you know, I know some other

479
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.480
clubs if it's like a smaller club
where I have dads, smaller clubs in

480
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:13.400
LA, Like, yeah, I'll
come back, but and you want to

481
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:16.239
come back because sometimes they do reward
you if you go back. I mean

482
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:21.519
it's a game. It's a little
cat and mouse game. Yeah yeah,

483
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:24.320
and the goal is just to empty
that wallet if you can. And you

484
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:27.960
know what their game is to go
home happy too. And you know what,

485
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:35.400
I have another rule for girls,
don't take rejection seriously. A lot

486
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:40.960
of girls internalize maybe the guy turn
like you know, sometimes I'll go with

487
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.159
like two guys and I'm with my
girlfriend. Maybe I get picked, but

488
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:52.519
the guy doesn't pick my girlfriend.
Don't take it seriously. Like sometimes guys

489
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.119
do that because they do kind of
like you, and it's just like,

490
00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.800
you know, they just want to
like tug at you because I know that

491
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:05.880
you know you're gorgeous, you're hot, um, you're you. They know

492
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.559
that you're going to remember the guy
that insulted them, that the guy who

493
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:15.960
you know. Along that same track, though, how about learn to learn

494
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:21.360
to cut your look so by the
same thing, if you are not getting

495
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:23.679
a vibe from a guy that you're
gonna be able to work with him at

496
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:29.119
all, cut your losses. Find
another guy. Like another rule, like

497
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:34.559
I give these guys ten minutes,
maybe even less. Then that's how they

498
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.920
get if we're not vibing or you
know time is of the essence before it's

499
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:45.840
like you know that prime time and
you want to get them in the VIP

500
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:52.400
or you like want to work them
on the floor. Sure makes sense.

501
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.199
Yeah, no, that that makes
a lot of sense. Um, what

502
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:01.960
was the what was the poet pandemic
strip club boom? Like was there one?

503
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:08.079
Oo um okay, so yeah,
like that like for Vegas like strip

504
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:14.920
clubs closing ever that has like never
been heard of, And so I want

505
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.079
to say, um, I think
I don't know if it was. I

506
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:20.960
think it was twenty twenty, right, like March. Yeah, yeah,

507
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:28.599
yeah, March March right. It
was fucking crazy. I made so much

508
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:31.039
money. But then it was like
and it was kind of this weird thing.

509
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:37.280
They wanted us to wear masks,
and then the guys were supposed to

510
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.320
wear masks, but by the time
the guys are getting in, they ain't

511
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:44.960
wearing a mask. I mean there
was guys straight up. Like I remember,

512
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:49.760
I was like in a VIP and
like this guy was like fucking nose

513
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:55.440
in some girls booty pretty much.
And I remember, like I think up

514
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.920
until like May right, I was
like whoa. I was like, this

515
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:06.840
is it's just getting hot. Something's
gonna happen and then it like you know,

516
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:14.559
everybody like it was like security guards
got COVID and then fucking waitresses to

517
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:21.039
dancers, and then they did have
to do like um I think they closed

518
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.440
it or and it was like a
process like we had to even get COVID

519
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:30.480
tests just to go in and work. Wow. Um yeah it was,

520
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:37.840
but it was crazy. It was
like many you wanted to go in because

521
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:44.679
everybody was deprived, The girls were
deprived, the customers were fucking ready.

522
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.920
And it was also kind of cool
because um, there was a lot of

523
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.679
customers that they weren't even fucking with
the floor dances. They were like yo,

524
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.719
like straight to the straights of the
VIP sure hit and they were like

525
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:07.599
God was fired and not a lot
of other entertainment to spend it on.

526
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.719
So you're just sitting on cash going
what can I do? Oh nude women?

527
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.280
Right? Yeah it was. It
was a good time. It was

528
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.400
definitely historical. Sure, let me
not to use the term box again,

529
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.199
but let me put you in a
box here and ask if you you are

530
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:30.079
a renaissance woman. It's very obvious
and it seems very unlikely that you would

531
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.039
ever become one track on anything.
I just I feel you're kind of like

532
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.639
me, like I gotta have my
hands in everything. It's not good enough

533
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:38.760
to be, you know, trying
an attempt to be funny on the air.

534
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.280
Here, I need to edit it
all. I need to edit all

535
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.199
the graphics behind it. I need
to cut the video, I need to

536
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.360
do all the promotion, blah blah
blah blah. But if I had to

537
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.599
put you in a single track,
and let's say the money is going to

538
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:58.239
be equal among all of your different
interests, which one would you go with?

539
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.039
As like you were and it's not
the degradation to any of the other

540
00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:05.960
ones. Obviously you still like doing
this that what is your one track where

541
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.440
you go that's my one hundred percent
passion. This one's only ninety nine.

542
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:15.360
This one's only ninety eight. Um, I would say podcasting, doing videos

543
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:21.199
that that's that. Like, Um, I went to school for sound engineering,

544
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.000
music production. So I'm like really
like, I'm a nerd. I'm

545
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.440
a nerd in a like sexy frame. But um so I like equipment and

546
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:37.079
gears, but I like the process. And so first it was watching Joe

547
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:43.920
Rogan and um, I remember I
had a awesome client. Um great friend.

548
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:51.880
Uh he's passed away now, but
he was a successful entrepreneur and and

549
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.039
we had these crazy stories. He
would leave work and he would like party

550
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.039
with us. And then he almost
was going to get me a place in

551
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.079
la and he wanted to like have
like two other rooms, and I was

552
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.360
like telling him, I was like
yo, I was like fuck. I

553
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.599
was like, we'll have one more
like roommate. But I was like,

554
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:13.960
let's leave one of the rooms and
like let's make it as like a podcast

555
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.079
room and we'll have a bunch of
girls will do crazy shit. And he

556
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:22.400
was all about it. He wanted
to be like a silent sponsor, like

557
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.079
he didn't ever. He wanted to
be like behind the scenes, but he

558
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.480
didn't want to actually be there because
he was married. But and it was,

559
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:35.280
I don't know, it was always
this journey. So then I remember

560
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.280
during the pandemic, you know,
I wasn't doing much and I was like,

561
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:39.760
you know, I was like fuck
it. I was like, let's

562
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.679
let's like invest, like let's get
some equipment. And so got the equipment.

563
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:52.199
I got the studio and I mean
first I had cameras on tripods and

564
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.360
I was like, oh, I
was like this isn't sexually like this was.

565
00:43:54.559 --> 00:44:01.880
It wasn't vibing. So I actually
I worked with a professional live streaming

566
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:07.079
company who helped me, like,
well, we had to order all this

567
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.280
equipment, but if you like,
set up our cameras. So we have

568
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:15.679
these really like stationary PVT cameras,
I have screens, I have a whole

569
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:22.400
like software that runs our equipment.
So yeah, and then I actually just

570
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.440
had one of the fuy though it
is one of my sponsors, and we

571
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:31.400
went to one of these conventions and
we actually did podcasting live at their booth.

572
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:39.920
And so I see the value of
it going even you know, long

573
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:45.639
term pass porn because porn porn is
porn. It's a fantasy. But it's

574
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:51.519
like just like us having this conversation, like this is so personal, this

575
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:57.199
isn't this isn't something porn can give
you or even like TV, you know.

576
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.760
So I don't know, I mean, it's kind of I feel like

577
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.719
that's my main passion. What we
so same thing. I went to school

578
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.239
for television, radio and film production. I might degree on that. I

579
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.840
am looking now rogan Is on episode
nineteen fifty two. Okay, the first

580
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.840
time I went, hey we should
start a podcast some of my friends.

581
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.800
He was on episode thirty seven.
Okay, oh so in terms of how

582
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.320
long it took me to get this
going and to find a friend that i'd

583
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.360
be willing to do it, I
could have been on the ground goddamn floor

584
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.280
of this thing. I know it
took me. I mean it took me

585
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:42.719
a while. I even I want
to have like a a sister and podcastener

586
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.480
of like my podcast, because I
have two hosts that are like in the

587
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.119
music industry, so I kind of
trying to bring the I try to bring

588
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.960
the like adult entertainment element to the
show and a little bit of cannabis.

589
00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:00.960
But yeah, it's a whole process. And also I've gone through like two

590
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:07.360
different hosts that it's you know,
it's hard for people to be consistent where

591
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:14.880
sure you're not making money right away, you have to kind of be passionate

592
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:21.119
about it. It cann't happen,
Yeah it can, but you know you

593
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.920
just got to do it. Like
I'm on episode forty four of my shows,

594
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.840
and I have a really good editing
team that puts them together. Because

595
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.480
you know, it's one thing when
you film it, you're recording, and

596
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:43.519
then it's the turnaround and like that
was a big thing. I even tried

597
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:49.880
to edit my shows and oh god, the editing, Caro says, really

598
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.719
fun. But I don't have that
much time because I also have to like

599
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.480
edit my content stuff for that.
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean we

600
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.840
just do pretty straight, basic edits
on our stuff. But it was the

601
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.000
same thing. Shane and I were
friends in high school. I didn't go

602
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.039
to school with him. After that, he went and joined the Marines.

603
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.159
I went to college. Then ten
fifteen years later or whatever it was,

604
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.639
we got back together and I said, hey, you want to do this

605
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.880
with me? I said, the
only commitment I need is that you'll show

606
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.920
up every week. Yeah, because
that's the most important thing. The first

607
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.559
month we had no listeners none.
Okay, now we get downloads in over

608
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.679
one hundred countries and that's just because
you grind of me. Yeah, it's

609
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.599
all because of him. Yeah.
Well, here's my other question. Have

610
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.159
you ever had a podcast co host
that you had to buy a headset microphone

611
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.400
for because he forgot to talk into
the microphone every time you'd be on.

612
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.039
No, but yeah, I have
to always tell people, I'm like,

613
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:44.440
it's a dick, just ten,
like it's a Dick. You should know,

614
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.239
Shane, what are you doing?
It's a big bick one. Every

615
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:51.880
time I would get every time I
would get close enough to mouth at you'd

616
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:52.639
be like, all right, well
that's too close. Yeah. Well you

617
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.639
kept trying to deep throw out the
mic that was the problem or put it

618
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.519
in his ass. Yeah, but
I was gonna say, actually, I

619
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:06.599
have this written down here. The
comparison of here is podcasting too only fans.

620
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:12.400
How important is consistency when it comes
to only fans or any kind or

621
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.639
camming or any It's it's like the
most important thing, right, It's so

622
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:22.760
consistent because shit like um and even
too. Sometimes I fall back, like

623
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:28.400
if I'm doing really good and successful
on my podcast, then maybe I'm maybe

624
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:32.000
like slacking just a little bit.
Like I know, I got a lot

625
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.639
of content I need to like finish
editing and posting. But I also like

626
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:43.760
I get a little pooped. It's
like a lot of I'm also like super

627
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:49.320
into like conversating with people. So
sometimes like I'll be up like I'm always

628
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:51.800
like i have this thing where I'm
like, oh, I'm gonna do the

629
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.920
show, and then maybe a little
bit after I'll like set up and I'll

630
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.360
like try to edit some of my
content. No, I just get hind

631
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:06.400
stoned and then maybe I eat after
and I totally forgot about copart for content.

632
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.599
But yeah, no, even I'm
camming, like I definitely have to

633
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:15.440
get back to camming. But like
sometimes I'm I do like I do life

634
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:21.119
streams on my only fans and it
does really well. Where I mean,

635
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.679
you just gotta try. I know, there's like a like there's not a

636
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.800
lot of time in the day,
and it's hard to like put it all

637
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.840
together. But just making effort to
like show up goes on a long way.

638
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.480
Because when I did camming, like
when I started to learn camming,

639
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:44.000
that was a whole process. I
remember my agent was like asking us to

640
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.719
do like cam sessions at the office, and like my head, because I'm

641
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.400
so like technical, I'm like,
hold on, I was like, if

642
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:54.480
I could do this at his office, where is that money going? And

643
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.360
why can't I do this at home
because so I don't have to like drive

644
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.039
to it, and so you know. And so then I went on this

645
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:06.440
journey like I finally you know,
and then I had a time place at

646
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.840
the time when I was in La
I had I got a place with these

647
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.760
DJs, these electronic DJs, and
I was like, look, I'm only

648
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:23.719
gonna stay here if I'm okay to
webcam, meaning you may hear me masturbating

649
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.960
or whatever. I know, God
forbid corruptions. And so they were really

650
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.840
cool. They actually allowed to put
you in a remix. Huh. They

651
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:37.000
put glasses against the door and they
were like, huh, go ahead,

652
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.679
yeah, no, we don't have
a problem with it. Well, it

653
00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.159
was really funny because I well,
I dated one of the managers of the

654
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.800
DJs and stuff, and he would
be like, don't talk to about none

655
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.039
of this to the DJs. But
then like the other DJs in the house

656
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.840
would be like, man, if
I was a fucking girl, I'd do

657
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:57.320
that shit. And so, but
it was a journey. It was like,

658
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:02.239
first I had to learn about connection, you know, because of the

659
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:07.000
lagging and all that, and the
lighting was a huge thing. And then

660
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:14.800
you're set up. So now I'm
pretty like set now. But then you

661
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:16.800
know, you sign on and maybe
there's not a lot of people and you're

662
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:23.199
just like fuck. And I watched
probably every fucking YouTube video trying to figure

663
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:28.360
out what the fuck do you do? How do you get people going and

664
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.800
it was the most common thing.
Oh consistent, consistency. You gotta be

665
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:36.320
consistent. And so as I started
to just do it, like there'd be

666
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:40.239
days where I was on maybe there
wasn't a lot of people, but I

667
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:44.920
got people on my friends list.
So now when I like, come on,

668
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:50.320
and you know you're talking about like
I think I started camming in like

669
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:55.360
twenty sixteen, and now it's like
it's like a big thing when I go

670
00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:00.960
on my webcam shows because they're like, oh my god, we missed you,

671
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:06.039
haven't seen you and so long.
So it's hard. It is a

672
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.119
job, but you know, now
I'm a mom. I like, I

673
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:14.119
did webcamming when I was pregnant,
so I made a bunch of pregnant content.

674
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:19.440
And that's actually how I got started
into ONLY. I was so about

675
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:23.400
my camming and they kept telling me
to get ONLY fans, and so I

676
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:28.159
did, like when the boom was
going on, because I had I got

677
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.360
pregnant in twenty nineteen, so I
was like right before the pandemic and stuff,

678
00:52:31.400 --> 00:52:36.079
and so then it was just and
then from there I was like,

679
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.320
whoa, instead of doing tokens,
you mean I could get fucking I can

680
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:45.800
actually price things and dollars. I
was like, oh fuck yeah. So

681
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:52.559
but you know, I like camming
because those customers they're already like content was

682
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:57.920
spending a lot of money and like
large amounts, where I feel like only

683
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:01.360
fan customers they're still kind of like
figuring it out. They're still kind of

684
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.199
experimenting, so they're like maybe sometimes
they go crazy, but not as much

685
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:10.480
as like webcam customers. Right,
that makes sense. You say we got

686
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.119
to wrap up here soon, but
you say there's a there's a boom that

687
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.639
is still waiting, or there's still
money in camming, right, I mean

688
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:24.360
I do dominatrix stuff. So yeah, Like I mean, so would you

689
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:29.000
subjoin your niche so you beat the
money out of them? That's what I

690
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.760
was going to add. Yeah,
that's what it was. See shit,

691
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:37.159
when we were talking about the different
tracks thing, I would have gone with

692
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:45.159
fucking finn. What is it financial
domination? Yeah, isn't hey pigs send

693
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:46.880
me money? Like that's I mean, I would just do that. How

694
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:51.480
do you find the pigs? Though? Now we in the dream scenario,

695
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.960
everything was gonna make the same amount
of not necessarily that easy. That's what

696
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:01.920
the amateurs do. There's a way
to do it, and I am working

697
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:07.320
on I'm working with some really good
doms. I'm going to start a course

698
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.519
where I can teach because I have
such an influx of women on my Instagram

699
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.400
and Twitter that want to learn.
But it's not a it's not that simple.

700
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.280
Okay, fair enough, fair enough, Shane. Did you have any

701
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:24.599
more questions for on x here Um? How do you like piss um?

702
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:31.239
I don't mind to piss for them. I don't take golden showers, but

703
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:36.760
you know, hey, it was
in your body. You know it's sterryl

704
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.559
I prefer to receive anyway. It's
the line that divides us on the show.

705
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:44.280
I'm just not a piss guy.
I have no issue with people who

706
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.400
are into it. Shane would just, I mean get all of his nutrients

707
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.280
from urine if he could. That
is where I get all my new bottles.

708
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.960
I can totally send you one of
my bottles. I might have ordered

709
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:02.119
one already. All right, ladies
and gentlemen, Shane, did you have

710
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:05.679
anything else other than that? Or
no? Come on, man, you

711
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.159
know that's my favorite question. Okay, fair enough, ladies and gentlemen.

712
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:13.280
You were listening to Onyxmus today.
You can find her on Twitter at onyxmus

713
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:21.760
xxx on Instagram, onyxmus xo,
onyxmus No, onyxsocialclub dot com, onyxmus

714
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.440
dot com and onyxmus xxx dot com. Make sure you're spending money out.

715
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.559
You can find her on many VIDs
as well. Yeah, I know that

716
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.559
if you want to indulge on my
pregnant content, I still have some great

717
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:38.280
videos up there. Um, keep
it versatile for sure. Yeah. I

718
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:43.840
just go and spends to my website. All my links are there so you

719
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:47.960
get access and then you get to
um, you know, more more details

720
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:52.039
into my little world exactly, and
we're gonna put all those links in the

721
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.159
episode description as well. Asta,
thank you so much guys for having me,

722
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.400
Thank you for coming, and well
give us for your worst friend.

723
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.519
I'm Matt, I'm Shane. Thanks
for listening. We'll see you next week.

724
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:13.079
Thanks for listening to your worst friend
going Deeper.

