You're listening to your worst friend, Going You're listening to your worst friend was
Shane and Matt Going Deeper, season four. I'm joined today by my friend
and co host Shane Hello, and our special guest. She is wonderful.
We followed each other a while ago. I doubt she even knows that,
but I think she even liked something from season one of our show. I
believe I forget who it was and I should dig into that, and I
like commented in the message. I was like, oh my god, we
would love to have you on ONYX. Blah blah blah, and then never
heard again. And then she joined the pr agency that we also work with,
so we were able to book her. Ladies and gentlemen. Today we
have on ONYX. Muse let me get a let me get all your plugs
out here, cup, cup cup. Yeah. I'm kind of like a
podcast for in a sense. I love going on. I mean, I
have a podcast, so I like to indulge on other podcasts. Sure,
I totally understand it. I'm I'm gonna have to go back in search and
figure out who specifically you liked individual post for each one and blah blah blah.
But let me get your plugs out of the way. Twitter is onyx
mus x x X. Instagram is onyx mus XO until of course you lose
that one again. What number are we on here? Oh god, I'm
on six. Okay, there you go, so it'll change, but don't
worry, we'll update that in all the episode description a threat. You can
go to onyxsocialclub dot com onyxmus dot com, which is going to take you
to her free only fans, but we don't we push that one if you're
real broke. What I really want you to do is go to the page
one. Okay, and that's on x meus xxx dot com. Right,
do you give anything good there? Yes? Okay, wonderful. You know,
totally understand I. I mean, we rally about it all the time.
But the way they treat uh, porn star, sex workers, strippers,
whatever is just so ridiculous with the kind of shit they ban you for
and then the stuff they allow on this side. Yeah, yeah, you
know it's crazy. Is when I post my videos of me dancing because I
train at a pole studio, so I'm legitimately out of studio and they still
kind of like flag me for that. Yeah, you know, that's the
same with my wife. She teaches at a a pole studio and it's been
like a struggle. She's on her like third or fourth Instagram too, and
uh, you know she's yeah, she's got her like only fans hustle too,
and that like is you know, a mad and you know, you
can't fit any of the guidelines because the guidelines are so loose, so they
just they just find anything to ban you for. But any like I have,
like I'll just have a normal post, and because they've been deleted so
many times, it's like they flag stuff that is not even sexually suggestive.
So I don't know. I guess I'm just a sexually suggestive person. But
you've got a certain look to you. Yeah, I do. I do.
It gets me in trouble all the time. Mine too. I'm not
allowed around middle schools. Um. So you guys, are you guys are
close? I think right? Are you based out of Vegas or are you
based somewhere else? Okay, Shane's reno which is Nevada, Nevada in the
house. See, I have no concept of it because I'm in Jersey,
so I'm like, oh, New York two hours away and Phillies an hour
away. Though. Yeah it's nice. I like it. Your access to
everything and you don't have to necessarily deal with the big city. But every
time someone says Vegas, I go, oh, Shane, you guys are
like six hours away, right, something like that in a car. I
mean we could fly there an hour. Yeah, I understand. I never
actually been to right now. It's like Vegas but cold. Oh I don't
know if I like that because Vegas cold is not fun. Yeah, it's
not fun either way. Um, so ONYX, can I ask you how
did you so? Okay? I was going through your history and I like
doing my research on all of our guests and whatever. That's what I tell
my wife at least anyway, fucking research and get out of here, get
out of here, gets his homework technically, Um, what are you currently
working on? Because I saw you had shot stuff in the past, but
then I saw you were directing stuff at some point, I thought, And
then I know you dance as well, So what is like your main and
I think you cammed at one point too, right? Are you just a
renaissance I'm a little I'm a little versatile, so I'm all over the place.
My main thing that I'm working on is my company. So I have
an agency that I'm working on where I'm in the process of I help girls
get started with only fans and webcamming because I personally think webcamming is still very
lucrative and of course I still um so I have like a management company that
helps run my only fans, which gives me a lot of time to like
you know, where I can really focus on creating my own content. So
right now, like I have like I'm in my studio right now where I
create most of my content, but I just got access to this amazing house
where I can also utilize it to my content. I can help other content
creators. But yeah, I'm kind of also falling in this cannabis space.
So this convention Champs trade show, they added the adult industry, and what
I want to kind of bring to that is I want to bring the element
of a vim and exoticas to it. There's still just a lot of groundwork
to do because it's funny because you're around cannabis, like corporate companies and stuff
like that. So and they've just been really awesome to me. I was
one of the first porn stars that signed on because I kind of saw the
I saw the value in it as jumping in. I know there's going to
be a lot of trial and errors, but now I'm actually acquiring a lot
of sponsors. So I do the podcast because I think it's great. I
think it's all and to like bring on other ladies or or even men,
like other content creators that are in my industry. But then I can also
work with um cannabis companies. So but I love to dance. I'm still
very very good. I you know, I dance at Rhino out here.
Um, I'm pretty fucking uh great at that. And then I do features
now, so I've been traveling. Um, I have a feature coming up
at Sapphires in New York Sapphires thirty nine. Um so yeah, I'm kind
of like, uh, I'm well rounded. Main thing too, is I'm
a mom, so I focus on being mom. I have to balance out
my sex world life and my mom life. Sure, how how have you
balanced that out? Now? I mean, are you the second part of
that question, are you worried at all about getting attention from the PTA and
shit like that? When you're kidding? No, Ill, fuck it,
I'll tell them to go fuck off now. Actually, um, I definitely
had to make some sacrifices you know before when I was a performer, especially
like camming and stuff, I could do it twenty four seven, you know
now I've Um, I really balance, like I choose, like obviously my
mornings are with my daughter, and then I pick like a day that is
like solely for her, usually like Sundays. I kind of take Sundays off
that's mine and her day. Um, you know, do I get pushed
back sometimes? Um? Yes, But also like I do my mom shit,
like I make sure checking on my nannies and stuff. So it's like,
even if I'm doing my work, I'm not at all like have her
off my mind. Definitely. I know when she goes to school, that's
gonna be a whole other inch a lot of that. I'll just cross that
bridge when I get to But I'm not at all worried about fucking PTA meetings
and stuff. Like I got red hair and tattoos, so I'm already pretty
controversial, so I already know it's out. You know what. You just
use those PTA meetings as as every time you show up, you're gonna get
probably fifteen more subscribers to your friends. I know their husbands will definitely be
lurking. Um. But what's funny is like, I which so gratifying,
is like watching my daughter just like grow into this little human and now and
she's already bossy, Like she's already sassy. So um. I had her
deal play date with my friend's son that was her age, and she's like
taking all his toys, bossing him around. And then she's like a manipulator.
She like goes to his mom and she goes, hey, he's not
sharing. And I was like, oh, I thought she's gould be great
by the time she goes to school. Sociopath. So, how did you
initially get into the industry? What is your first step into any whichever one
of the many industries you are working, and what was your first step in?
Well, naturally, I genuinely did not actually want to be in the
adult industry. I kind of gone to this crazy relationship and dabbled into DSM
and it was super hot and he knew a lot of corn stars, and
then it was just at the point where I was like, you know,
this is we weren't getting along after that and stuff, and I caught it
off, and I just told him, I was like, you know,
breaking up with him peacefully, and he did not like it, and so
he actually blackmailed me and extorted, like threatened to put pictures and videos of
me on the internet. Because before the adult industry, I actually was a
professional dancer, like I did go go dancing at nightclubs and I had my
own company where I was booking other girls who were go go dancers, not
strippers at all. And I was actually, you know, I was working
with a lot of nightclubs, especially the Live Nation, where I was also
getting budget from like outfits and stuff like costume budget. And I was in
this really weird predicament, like I never had anybody do something like that,
and so I would like hang out with I was hanging with the porn girls,
and they were like, why don't, like, why don't you just
like join the industry, and I was just like, oh my god.
I was like yeah, I was like I can never do that like that,
that's crazy, and they and they just kind of like put in my
head They're like, well, if you get kind of like some notoriety,
maybe it will like get them off your bat. And it just got to
the point where I was like tired of the threats and so I just hit
them back. I was like, you know why, I was like,
fuck you, I'll beat you to it. And so I did the industry.
I knew some of the people in the industry, so I kind of
did it in my own in my own way, like I didn't go too
full deep into it, but I did at my comfortability and I saw,
you know, and then once I was in there, I saw a lot
of opportunities like webcamming and um, you know, I had girls who I
knew from go go dancing who were sort of interested to make more money.
They didn't want to necessarily get into the adult industry per se. So I
was really driven on the fact that, you know, I can help be
an outlet to women who you know, want to get in. Um,
they just want to know how to do it without, you know, the
fear of being exploited like myself. That's what I was going to say.
It seems like you were doing the good thing. Now you're stepping up and
being the anti your boyfriend that got you into it initially. Yes, have
you always been an entrepreneur, because I mean you've just named three different companies.
You've started here, and I'm going it took me ten years to start
a fucking podcast, Like yes. Actually, at nineteen, I was well,
I mean first, like I had a sand much job when I was
in like high school. I worked at Quiznos, and then I was like
a manager at a game stop, and then I worked at Hooters. And
the Hooters is like the gay way because I remember we went to a party
and this guy he had like it was like for a crunk energy drink and
he was like, hey, like, do you want to work for energy
drink company? We'll pay you twenty five dollars an hour, give you a
company car, and all you got to do is these promos. And he
was like yes, And he was like do you have friends? I was
like absolutely. I lived in a house, I had seven roommates and like
four of my girlfriend and worked at Hooters with me. And then there was
like this whole like invoicing that none of the girls wanted to do. So
I was like, hey, I'll do your invoices, break me off,
and so I kind of always stepped into that. But I was at nineteen,
I was illegal secretary for an attorney who taught me like so much.
But those people were miserable and I was like, I gotta get out of
here. And I had got out of a really bad relationship and I was
like, I'm moving to LA and I'm going to start a company where I
helped like Go Goo danswers because one of my girlfriends was doing it. I
really wanted to do it. And he gave me a contract and he was
like you remember like everything I say, right, And I was like yeah,
and he's like anything in entertainment, He's like, give them this contract,
and so I was like okay. So I would you know, a
lot of like the go Go gigs and stuff. They were all kind word
of mouth or like you know, verbal agreements, and so I'm like this
little girl and I'm like they're like, yeah, I want you to work.
You know. It would be like four hours for a hundred dollars,
twenty minute sets, twenty minute off. It was a lot of dancing.
But I would hit them with the contract and people were kind of like,
I go, who the fuck are you? But then after a while they
were like okay. Because anytime, like like there was issues where sometimes they
wouldn't pay girls. So I would hit them, I'd be like, yeah,
I'll fucking sue you. And I got it in writing, and so
then they want it fuck with me, and so it just kind of came
into this system. And I've always been a like a woman supporter. I
want to help girls. I'm not ever competitive with other women, you know,
because I know that if we work better in numbers, we work too
great better together in numbers than just on your own. Yeah, that makes
total sense to me. And it makes sense that you're looking now to get
into the cannabis game too, because it's kind of well, I don't know
if it's necessarily a natural I guess it's a natural fit. Not probably not
on a porn set. Well, I'll tell you one thing. I was
actually in cannabis before before I joined the industry. I was a bud a
tender at a lot of different you know, dispensaries when it was medical during
Prop two fifteen in LA and then I became a manager from one of the
dispensaries and I actually trained bud tenders and it was a good time. And
we are also a consumption lounge, so it would be funny. I would
have guys come in three times a day. But even women, and I
used to have people they would specifically wait for Arne because you know, at
first it was like, oh, you're a hot girl, come work.
I did have an incident with a patient who um, you know, he
had cancer, and he was a little upset because at first it's always natural
to say, oh, well, I'll give you like the best top shelf,
but that didn't technically help for him. So then I, you know,
I fixed it. But then I was like, wow, I need
to like smoke everything, so I kind of know like what I'm giving them,
and it really helped in my in my work because like people will tell
me what they wanted, and I knew what to give them. So yeah,
and then I also I trenned and then my brother he lives in San
France, so I actually went harvested in Oregon form a crazy two weeks.
I mean it was beautiful, but it was also kind of scary. So
I don't know why. I love lead. I love the whole cannabis industry.
So it was really funny. Like I used to kind of like,
you know, I would put on a different cape when I would do cannabis
because they didn't want to be like, hey, by the way, I'm
a porn star too, you know. And then when cannabis kind of really
started to get accepting of it, then I was like kind of all about
it. So we talked to Gauge. Gauge was a big porn star when
Shane and I were in high school. Just a classic. She's a classic,
and she had the idea of coupling porn stars with almost like a male
retreat, going out to the woods, shooting guns, doing stuff like that
is your idea at some point to merge stripping and cannabis or porn stars cannabis
or I would love that. Actually, when so my brother had I remember
I was like dancing and I was kind of like out of porn and it
was just like camming at that time, and I was like dancing in La
This was actually before um they changed the laws with California. And my brother
calls me and he's like, oh, we're having like ten days of rain,
like really need like people. He's like, now you're into like cannabis.
He's like, would you ever like come out here, like I'm here,
And it was kind of crazy, but he's my brother, so I
knew I was going to be safe. And when I went out there,
it was like more like I don't know, it felt like very therapeutic that
we would literally like go out there and there was the whole like ritual like
you would pray to the plant before you like cut it down, and they
were really like um encouraging to like you know, you want you need to
eat organic food. So like my skin felt really good. I wore no
makeup, and then it was is literally you wake up, you cut the
tree, and then you're cutting a different part, you know, you trim
it down, and then it's like you fill this bag up and that's your
money and I and you know, you make a good money. And I
almost like I asked like a bunch of my girlfriends because it wasn't like maybe
like the shop club wasn't like super popping at the time, so I was
like, oh my god. I was like, girls, like we should
come out here, we should like trim like get the stuff going. It's
kind of beautiful and you know, maybe take a break from like men,
you know, making our money that way. And I almost like I got
a bunch of girls that were down, and then I went out to the
location before just to make sure because you know, I'm responsible for any girls
that go out there. And the guy got fucking weird right away. Like
I flew in and he immediately was like yeah, He's like, I don't
think I'm gonna have your brother around on this time. And I was just
like, I was like why. He's like, oh, He's like why
why you quiet? I'm like, well, if you're not gonna have my
brother, I'm like, I'm not coming and I'm not bringing my girls.
But you know, so if there was something where I didn't have to deal
with that type, I am meeting some really amazing like people in the industry
that can connect me to farms that if I were to do something like that,
I would love to. Um, I have to make sure, you
know, safety safety first always, Well what about this, you get a
little cabin fever out there too, totally totally understand it. What maybe you
shoot some content then if everybody's just a little old. I had had some
online. I've had people offer like their farms to me that like, I
have you and your girlfriends want to shoot like content. I'm like, I'm
totally down, you know, but I also have hold backs because of my
situation. So as long as it's safe, like fuck, yeah, yeah,
we want to be respectful to the plants. I don't want to like
contaminate them with our booty. Sure you also don't want leather face coming out
of the fields that I don't know if I take it up some farmer saying,
hey, if you want to come, shoot content. But that's just
me. Maybe I'm overly cautious. You mentioned the strip club and what I
would like to do if we can, and this is on the fly.
You had no warning on this. Okay, I want to see if the
three of us can brainstorm five rules for being a stripper, five rules for
being a patron Oh, I got it? Okay, all right, all
right, well big cock Okay, that's doesn't fit anywhere. Don't really matter,
big wallets, yeah yeah, okay, all right, all right,
all right, So you and I are going to different clubs. I guess,
yeah, we're going to different clubs. Rules for being a stripper.
So right off the bat, say you're walking into a new club or something
you would tell a new girl, right you're sitting down this new girl.
She's pretty, but she's new in the club. It's in okay club,
meaning like the people are fine, but people want to make their money,
right, So what's the first rule you would give a stripper and learn your
stripper etiquette? Okay? Meaning, and I know a lot of newbies don't
have this anymore, Like this is a dying thing, and I think clubs
still need to respect this. When a girl is on stage and those customers
that are on stage, you have any nerve to walk up to that customer.
By that girls on stage, she has the right to tell you to
go fuck off in front of the customer. Fair enough, she will embarrass
you because that's you only get one moment where you're really on stage, you
know, not sometimes clubs, you're only on stage for one time. Okay,
So why are you taking her shine away from these little bit of guys
that are at the stage when there's a full room to go work? If
you go, focus on the full room. But if she goes and tells
you off and you want to go run to the manager, you ain't built
for this industry. Fair enough. Now, I'm a guy, and a
pretty unattractive one at that. So I'm gonna make up a rule here,
and you tell me if this seems like one that would fit for strippers.
Make sure you're tipping the appropriate people, the DJ, the house mother.
Whatever. Does that make sense? Yeah, majure, you're coming in with
more money than just a dream. Sure, Okay, all right, I
got a rule. I gotta rule. All right, let's let's hear this
one. Something I having a big car, have the biggest cock. No,
I think will appreciate this, Okay, No, know how to work
the poll? Like actually know some pole? Yes, know how to to
like, you know, spin, at least know how to climb the pole?
Like how many times have I been to a strip club and they won't
even touch the thing, you know, like they just kind of wiggle around.
I agreed to actually, like, you know, I do my due
diligence that I go to pool classes. I train, I mean because I
naturally enjoy it. But you know, there's a difference when you're giving that
girl the title of a dancer and she does not dance. However, I
will say a lot like when I first started learning poll, I ghetto taught
myself at first, but I watched the girls and I actually like tried.
But yeah, like the strip club does not teach you. And it's like
there's a poll for a reason. So if you're gonna lie be in this
industry, attempts to like learn Oh on YouTube, there's there's tons of total
stuff. Let's call it learn some moves, all right. You can't just
be a chick standing up there. Pretty is not enough? Yeah, not
enough? Okay? Do you have another rule? Because I have one and
I don't know, but I don't want to jump in front of you.
I don't want to literally make all the rules for being a stripper, as
I've never been one. I want to say, bring everything. Bring everything
in your bag, meaning all your fucking makeup, all your bodies, gray,
multiple outfits. If you want to bring multiple shoes, you can bring
all our scissors, fucking glue, like whatever you need, even if you're
not going to use it, because there's going to be a time where you're
at work and you need something. So it's better to pack more than less.
Probably fair. Let me give you mine, Shane, if you have
another one, and maybe it's better than this, or maybe Vonyx has one
that's better than this. Don't get sloppy, oh yeah right, right them
drunk, get them sloppy. You don't get sloppy. Yeah, I do.
I do a thing and I want to put like my my thaying out
there. But I'll take some drinks, and especially because I'm in Vegas,
because most of the clubs are twenty four seven or they're like going back to
twenty four seven. So I'll like take two SEPs, a couple of SEPs,
and then I put it down and then maybe I'll get Michael coffee or
a red Bull to like keep myself up. But I like make sure that
they're drinking all the drinks. So what about this, I just thought this
up. Take a shot and then have a water chaser, but then you're
spitting it in the water. Might work too, That's a possibility. I
don't know. It's like okay, like sometimes these guys it can pass.
But some of them, because it's like they bought it, they do get
a little crazy. They'll do like go like watch you drink it and whatever.
They'll watch you spit the bourbon back into the water. I mean,
you know, maybe get like m a chaser that like a pineapple juice or
whatever, cranberry juice, so they can't really tell that you did that.
Now, why are you? If we can five rules for being a patron,
so you should be able to help us with this only because identify the
things you don't want to see out of a fucking patron. Yeah, I
don't want to see men. Get off the fucking wall. We see you.
There's always men try to like hang on the wall, sit the fuck
down. Down, will come to you if you're on the wall, Like,
we'll still come to you, but you're making it harder. So they
had a full nude club in Philly called day Dreams for a while. I
think it actually just recently shut down. And we all went after work one
day for like a like a not retirement because it was a shitty job.
Someone was just quitting. So we're like, let's all get together and blah
blah blah, and it's full nude. They dance on stage and then they
come around. You give a dollar for the front, dollar for the back
and whatever. And everyone had never been there before except me and my wife,
right, and I'm putting the money up from my wife because you know
I got it, she ain't got fine. So at the end of it,
I'm going through the roll call and I'm going how much I got no
lap dances. They were also doing a thing where you could pick a hole
and lick whip cream off of it for thirty bucks. Did not do that.
At the end, we're doing the roll call and I go, how
much did you spend a Lista? And she's like twenty five dollars? And
how much did you spend Duffy thirty five dollars? And how much did you
spend a Jen forty dollars? And I looked and I spent almost four hundred
dollars on no lap dances, no fucking whip cream licking or anything like that.
It was their first time, so I'm not going to give them shit.
But rule number two, tip tip tip, when you feel sick of
tipping, tip some more. Yeah. I like that rule. Okay,
all right, because we've we've had so many interviews where we talk to girls
and they go, yeah, there's some nights when after paying the house fee
and tipping this guy and doing whatever, I would go home and lose money.
And that just makes me sick to my stomach, right, I mean,
it's sad guys. Some guys don't even realize we have to pay a
house fee to work. You know, we gotta pay, we gotta pay
to play. Is that, let me ask you, then, is that
a set number burnt generally in an area. Does it depend on how big
the club is? I know it depends on different states. Different policy is
Vegas is pretty standard, but you know every club is different. But you're
arranging about anywhere from like one hundred dollars to maybe even I think Sapphires is
like a lot, like one hundred and twenty or something. But I know
on the East Coast, like I've danced in New York and I've danced in
Miami. You know you're talking about like two hundred dollars high speed. Wow.
Wow, alright, um, let's come up with another rule for patrons.
I got one thing, all right, go ahead, no gym shorts,
no flip flops, okay, all right, Hey, can't go in
there looking like a stinker. Good rule because there is some guys like coming
in with the sweatpants. But that's nasty. Dude, probably just played basketball
or something at the y or they're just looking to have a rub, yeah,
to feel everything. But let me know, dude, I got a
pretty good rup through my jeans. Well that's what I was that. That
was what I was going to ask. Doesn't it suck if you're giving a
grinding lap, dance on a pair of like not broken in fucking jeans or
are you just dealing with Yeah, yeah they do. It's like you know,
you you you just want to put your butt in their face because you're
like, oh, it all depends. You know. There's the quality of
the pants. Sometimes there's been pants, or it doesn't bother but yeah,
like like drug, you know, dress yourself up on what's what's a nice
middle ground? Then how about like khakis? Khakis are like fine, okay,
all right, not too bad, not too bad, dress appropriately?
Okay, I'm taking notes on all of this. I like that. And
how about do we have another one? Patrons um? You know what I
hate. I hate the guys, you know, especially if they buy a
bottle or they buy drinks with their boys and they have this little shitty thing
to say they just just came here to drink. Fuck yo, Like you
didn't come here to drink. Otherwise you would have just went to the local
bar. Like stop using an excuse. You can't walk into an AMC and
go, I just came here to drink. You're seeing a fucking movie.
I wanted the popcorn right right, which I have done before I have literally
walked into an AMC and just bought popcorn. Um, and then rule,
all right, let's come up one more. Do you have any more?
Because I had one one more role? Like, guys, can we stop
with the well what happens in the VIP? Just ask for the menu?
Just ask for the menu? All right, that's fair. See, I
thought you were gonna say, we're not gonna tell you don't allude to it.
You cut to the chase, is what you're saying. Cut to the
chase, the options. And now I'll say this. I'll say this what
I say every guy, you know what happens back there? When you go
back there, you find out? Sure, there you go. Yeah,
I can find out what's in Pandora's box without opening it. Uh, there
you got scanner. Damn. I had a good box joke there, but
I just didn't. I didn't pull the trigger on it. And I should
have something about finding out what's in her box? Um, hold on,
let me google it real quick. I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't.
I couldn't formulated the joke was in there, and I just meant to throw
it in the Oh no, no, no, I found it, dude.
I looked it up. Okay, good. Um, I don't know
what that bit was. Uh, here's one one question I have for you.
Right, so I'm a patron at the club and I'm there and the
unfortunate girl comes up to me. She maybe wasn't necessarily blessed by God with
the best looks or personality or teeth um um or anything. How do how
does one let a girl know, especially if they're lingering. They're lingering right
right, So this is what you say, Hey, honey, Um,
I'm good right now, but maybe maybe maybe later, I'm just here with
my friend, Okay, fair enough. What if that doesn't take? If
that doesn't take, then you say, I'm I'm here with I'm waiting for
a girl. There you go, fair enough? All right, ladies and
gentlemen, That's what I mean. She may even come back after that.
And then by the third time, you just need to be honest, just
let her know. Hey, you might as well go work the room.
Um um, we're not this This not my type necessarily. What's okay?
Like, like I think, guys, it's really funny because my manager does
this all the time, and you know, like when a group of guys
comes in you want to immediately go to them and then you sit with them.
It's like so many guys are scared to like express what they really feel,
so they feel obligated to like do the dance with that girl and then
like you know, you go like say I go sit on them later and
they go, well where were you in the beginning, because I would have
got my dance with you what already show my money And it's like, well,
have some fucking balls and say, like you didn't want that girl?
Sure, sure that makes sense to me because when guys come in, this
happens all the time. You sit on them and they go and I just
wanted to get my drink first. You know, you want to come back.
And then it's like I always tell guys, I'm like, if you
tell me to come back, I'm not coming back because I'm gonna be going
getting somebody out. I mean, and you know I'm in Vegas, so
there's always people coming in. Now, you know, I know some other
clubs if it's like a smaller club where I have dads, smaller clubs in
LA, Like, yeah, I'll come back, but and you want to
come back because sometimes they do reward you if you go back. I mean
it's a game. It's a little cat and mouse game. Yeah yeah,
and the goal is just to empty that wallet if you can. And you
know what their game is to go home happy too. And you know what,
I have another rule for girls, don't take rejection seriously. A lot
of girls internalize maybe the guy turn like you know, sometimes I'll go with
like two guys and I'm with my girlfriend. Maybe I get picked, but
the guy doesn't pick my girlfriend. Don't take it seriously. Like sometimes guys
do that because they do kind of like you, and it's just like,
you know, they just want to like tug at you because I know that
you know you're gorgeous, you're hot, um, you're you. They know
that you're going to remember the guy that insulted them, that the guy who
you know. Along that same track, though, how about learn to learn
to cut your look so by the same thing, if you are not getting
a vibe from a guy that you're gonna be able to work with him at
all, cut your losses. Find another guy. Like another rule, like
I give these guys ten minutes, maybe even less. Then that's how they
get if we're not vibing or you know time is of the essence before it's
like you know that prime time and you want to get them in the VIP
or you like want to work them on the floor. Sure makes sense.
Yeah, no, that that makes a lot of sense. Um, what
was the what was the poet pandemic strip club boom? Like was there one?
Oo um okay, so yeah, like that like for Vegas like strip
clubs closing ever that has like never been heard of, And so I want
to say, um, I think I don't know if it was. I
think it was twenty twenty, right, like March. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, March March right. It was fucking crazy. I made so much
money. But then it was like and it was kind of this weird thing.
They wanted us to wear masks, and then the guys were supposed to
wear masks, but by the time the guys are getting in, they ain't
wearing a mask. I mean there was guys straight up. Like I remember,
I was like in a VIP and like this guy was like fucking nose
in some girls booty pretty much. And I remember, like I think up
until like May right, I was like whoa. I was like, this
is it's just getting hot. Something's gonna happen and then it like you know,
everybody like it was like security guards got COVID and then fucking waitresses to
dancers, and then they did have to do like um I think they closed
it or and it was like a process like we had to even get COVID
tests just to go in and work. Wow. Um yeah it was,
but it was crazy. It was like many you wanted to go in because
everybody was deprived, The girls were deprived, the customers were fucking ready.
And it was also kind of cool because um, there was a lot of
customers that they weren't even fucking with the floor dances. They were like yo,
like straight to the straights of the VIP sure hit and they were like
God was fired and not a lot of other entertainment to spend it on.
So you're just sitting on cash going what can I do? Oh nude women?
Right? Yeah it was. It was a good time. It was
definitely historical. Sure, let me not to use the term box again,
but let me put you in a box here and ask if you you are
a renaissance woman. It's very obvious and it seems very unlikely that you would
ever become one track on anything. I just I feel you're kind of like
me, like I gotta have my hands in everything. It's not good enough
to be, you know, trying an attempt to be funny on the air.
Here, I need to edit it all. I need to edit all
the graphics behind it. I need to cut the video, I need to
do all the promotion, blah blah blah blah. But if I had to
put you in a single track, and let's say the money is going to
be equal among all of your different interests, which one would you go with?
As like you were and it's not the degradation to any of the other
ones. Obviously you still like doing this that what is your one track where
you go that's my one hundred percent passion. This one's only ninety nine.
This one's only ninety eight. Um, I would say podcasting, doing videos
that that's that. Like, Um, I went to school for sound engineering,
music production. So I'm like really like, I'm a nerd. I'm
a nerd in a like sexy frame. But um so I like equipment and
gears, but I like the process. And so first it was watching Joe
Rogan and um, I remember I had a awesome client. Um great friend.
Uh he's passed away now, but he was a successful entrepreneur and and
we had these crazy stories. He would leave work and he would like party
with us. And then he almost was going to get me a place in
la and he wanted to like have like two other rooms, and I was
like telling him, I was like yo, I was like fuck. I
was like, we'll have one more like roommate. But I was like,
let's leave one of the rooms and like let's make it as like a podcast
room and we'll have a bunch of girls will do crazy shit. And he
was all about it. He wanted to be like a silent sponsor, like
he didn't ever. He wanted to be like behind the scenes, but he
didn't want to actually be there because he was married. But and it was,
I don't know, it was always this journey. So then I remember
during the pandemic, you know, I wasn't doing much and I was like,
you know, I was like fuck it. I was like, let's
let's like invest, like let's get some equipment. And so got the equipment.
I got the studio and I mean first I had cameras on tripods and
I was like, oh, I was like this isn't sexually like this was.
It wasn't vibing. So I actually I worked with a professional live streaming
company who helped me, like, well, we had to order all this
equipment, but if you like, set up our cameras. So we have
these really like stationary PVT cameras, I have screens, I have a whole
like software that runs our equipment. So yeah, and then I actually just
had one of the fuy though it is one of my sponsors, and we
went to one of these conventions and we actually did podcasting live at their booth.
And so I see the value of it going even you know, long
term pass porn because porn porn is porn. It's a fantasy. But it's
like just like us having this conversation, like this is so personal, this
isn't this isn't something porn can give you or even like TV, you know.
So I don't know, I mean, it's kind of I feel like
that's my main passion. What we so same thing. I went to school
for television, radio and film production. I might degree on that. I
am looking now rogan Is on episode nineteen fifty two. Okay, the first
time I went, hey we should start a podcast some of my friends.
He was on episode thirty seven. Okay, oh so in terms of how
long it took me to get this going and to find a friend that i'd
be willing to do it, I could have been on the ground goddamn floor
of this thing. I know it took me. I mean it took me
a while. I even I want to have like a a sister and podcastener
of like my podcast, because I have two hosts that are like in the
music industry, so I kind of trying to bring the I try to bring
the like adult entertainment element to the show and a little bit of cannabis.
But yeah, it's a whole process. And also I've gone through like two
different hosts that it's you know, it's hard for people to be consistent where
sure you're not making money right away, you have to kind of be passionate
about it. It cann't happen, Yeah it can, but you know you
just got to do it. Like I'm on episode forty four of my shows,
and I have a really good editing team that puts them together. Because
you know, it's one thing when you film it, you're recording, and
then it's the turnaround and like that was a big thing. I even tried
to edit my shows and oh god, the editing, Caro says, really
fun. But I don't have that much time because I also have to like
edit my content stuff for that. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean we
just do pretty straight, basic edits on our stuff. But it was the
same thing. Shane and I were friends in high school. I didn't go
to school with him. After that, he went and joined the Marines.
I went to college. Then ten fifteen years later or whatever it was,
we got back together and I said, hey, you want to do this
with me? I said, the only commitment I need is that you'll show
up every week. Yeah, because that's the most important thing. The first
month we had no listeners none. Okay, now we get downloads in over
one hundred countries and that's just because you grind of me. Yeah, it's
all because of him. Yeah. Well, here's my other question. Have
you ever had a podcast co host that you had to buy a headset microphone
for because he forgot to talk into the microphone every time you'd be on.
No, but yeah, I have to always tell people, I'm like,
it's a dick, just ten, like it's a Dick. You should know,
Shane, what are you doing? It's a big bick one. Every
time I would get every time I would get close enough to mouth at you'd
be like, all right, well that's too close. Yeah. Well you
kept trying to deep throw out the mic that was the problem or put it
in his ass. Yeah, but I was gonna say, actually, I
have this written down here. The comparison of here is podcasting too only fans.
How important is consistency when it comes to only fans or any kind or
camming or any It's it's like the most important thing, right, It's so
consistent because shit like um and even too. Sometimes I fall back, like
if I'm doing really good and successful on my podcast, then maybe I'm maybe
like slacking just a little bit. Like I know, I got a lot
of content I need to like finish editing and posting. But I also like
I get a little pooped. It's like a lot of I'm also like super
into like conversating with people. So sometimes like I'll be up like I'm always
like i have this thing where I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do the
show, and then maybe a little bit after I'll like set up and I'll
like try to edit some of my content. No, I just get hind
stoned and then maybe I eat after and I totally forgot about copart for content.
But yeah, no, even I'm camming, like I definitely have to
get back to camming. But like sometimes I'm I do like I do life
streams on my only fans and it does really well. Where I mean,
you just gotta try. I know, there's like a like there's not a
lot of time in the day, and it's hard to like put it all
together. But just making effort to like show up goes on a long way.
Because when I did camming, like when I started to learn camming,
that was a whole process. I remember my agent was like asking us to
do like cam sessions at the office, and like my head, because I'm
so like technical, I'm like, hold on, I was like, if
I could do this at his office, where is that money going? And
why can't I do this at home because so I don't have to like drive
to it, and so you know. And so then I went on this
journey like I finally you know, and then I had a time place at
the time when I was in La I had I got a place with these
DJs, these electronic DJs, and I was like, look, I'm only
gonna stay here if I'm okay to webcam, meaning you may hear me masturbating
or whatever. I know, God forbid corruptions. And so they were really
cool. They actually allowed to put you in a remix. Huh. They
put glasses against the door and they were like, huh, go ahead,
yeah, no, we don't have a problem with it. Well, it
was really funny because I well, I dated one of the managers of the
DJs and stuff, and he would be like, don't talk to about none
of this to the DJs. But then like the other DJs in the house
would be like, man, if I was a fucking girl, I'd do
that shit. And so, but it was a journey. It was like,
first I had to learn about connection, you know, because of the
lagging and all that, and the lighting was a huge thing. And then
you're set up. So now I'm pretty like set now. But then you
know, you sign on and maybe there's not a lot of people and you're
just like fuck. And I watched probably every fucking YouTube video trying to figure
out what the fuck do you do? How do you get people going and
it was the most common thing. Oh consistent, consistency. You gotta be
consistent. And so as I started to just do it, like there'd be
days where I was on maybe there wasn't a lot of people, but I
got people on my friends list. So now when I like, come on,
and you know you're talking about like I think I started camming in like
twenty sixteen, and now it's like it's like a big thing when I go
on my webcam shows because they're like, oh my god, we missed you,
haven't seen you and so long. So it's hard. It is a
job, but you know, now I'm a mom. I like, I
did webcamming when I was pregnant, so I made a bunch of pregnant content.
And that's actually how I got started into ONLY. I was so about
my camming and they kept telling me to get ONLY fans, and so I
did, like when the boom was going on, because I had I got
pregnant in twenty nineteen, so I was like right before the pandemic and stuff,
and so then it was just and then from there I was like,
whoa, instead of doing tokens, you mean I could get fucking I can
actually price things and dollars. I was like, oh fuck yeah. So
but you know, I like camming because those customers they're already like content was
spending a lot of money and like large amounts, where I feel like only
fan customers they're still kind of like figuring it out. They're still kind of
experimenting, so they're like maybe sometimes they go crazy, but not as much
as like webcam customers. Right, that makes sense. You say we got
to wrap up here soon, but you say there's a there's a boom that
is still waiting, or there's still money in camming, right, I mean
I do dominatrix stuff. So yeah, Like I mean, so would you
subjoin your niche so you beat the money out of them? That's what I
was going to add. Yeah, that's what it was. See shit,
when we were talking about the different tracks thing, I would have gone with
fucking finn. What is it financial domination? Yeah, isn't hey pigs send
me money? Like that's I mean, I would just do that. How
do you find the pigs? Though? Now we in the dream scenario,
everything was gonna make the same amount of not necessarily that easy. That's what
the amateurs do. There's a way to do it, and I am working
on I'm working with some really good doms. I'm going to start a course
where I can teach because I have such an influx of women on my Instagram
and Twitter that want to learn. But it's not a it's not that simple.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough, Shane. Did you have any
more questions for on x here Um? How do you like piss um?
I don't mind to piss for them. I don't take golden showers, but
you know, hey, it was in your body. You know it's sterryl
I prefer to receive anyway. It's the line that divides us on the show.
I'm just not a piss guy. I have no issue with people who
are into it. Shane would just, I mean get all of his nutrients
from urine if he could. That is where I get all my new bottles.
I can totally send you one of my bottles. I might have ordered
one already. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Shane, did you have
anything else other than that? Or no? Come on, man, you
know that's my favorite question. Okay, fair enough, ladies and gentlemen.
You were listening to Onyxmus today. You can find her on Twitter at onyxmus
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You can find her on many VIDs as well. Yeah, I know that
if you want to indulge on my pregnant content, I still have some great
videos up there. Um, keep it versatile for sure. Yeah. I
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Thank you for coming, and well give us for your worst friend.
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