There was never gonna be anything else that started this show. Win or Lose?
Yeah, I mean, like I said on the last show, it's
literally as if the team was built in a lab to beat Kansas and then
it happened. Yeah, it's gonna say win or lose, one of those
things definitely happened, and it really it wasn't the It wasn't the thing we
wanted. So here we all are, late at night on a work night
to talk about BYU coming into Allen Field House and well three point barraging their
way to an upset win over Kansas, and look at us, we're putting
on our where mister Rogers putting on our clown mask, gonna try to tell
you all about that game. Oh yeah, I do have that. I
haven't played that, but like that, I don't. I don't know if
we deserve that ourselves. Kansas definitely deserves this because here comes six eleven Noah
Waterman to match Watery pick Johnny Furfy with threes in the final five minutes.
Actually he didn't match him. He flat out made more. This is itp
whatever, I'm I don't have a witty answer. You know who we are,
right? Yes? Who do you think you are. Yes, we
are very white and very well. If Hunter Dickinson bumps into one of us,
maybe we'll ignite a big run because there's a lot of things to talk
about. Kansas losing to BYU. The Big Twelve hopes are over, and
now the hope has to be don't play on Wednesday of the Big Twelve Tournament,
even though Landon is probably hoping that they do because that would give him
more opportunities to a do podcasts which we all love, and b make up
ground on Nick and pick him because sirt that ship is sinking faster than Nick
Timberlake's career. If only we could have seen that coming, If only we
could have seen me sucking at pick them again. On the horizon, the
Jayhawks can win national titles, The Jayhawks can lose big twelves, The Jayhawks
can do a lot of things. And here we go, by the way,
show number four fifty, congratulations to all of us. That's a lot
of shows. Every time we do a milestone show, it's usually over a
bad loss. I know three hundred was after the Texas Allen Fieldhouse blowout from
a few years ago. It seems like we always they always say the best
for the milestones, because here we go, ready to talk all about it.
Landon loses in pick them. The Jayhawks lose to BYU. It's all
ass, folks, It's all ass okay. BYU seventy six, number seven,
Kansas sixty eight. I hope you like that song, because I predict
you're gonna hear it a lot over the next forty five minutes. Nick gonna
like it before it's over, Nick, tell me about the game story,
which none of us liked. Despite maintaining a lead for most of the night
and getting up by twelve early in the second half, Kansas was never able
to bury BYU when they had the chance, missing countless free throws as the
Cougar's offense stayed cold but trilling by four to five minutes left Biu's sleeping three
point offense finally got it going, making its last four to three's of the
night and running past the Jay hobbsbor winning out in the house UH by twelve.
That's even one more than they were up against k State by, but
for less than they were up against UCF by, sir. It fits in
the middle. They also led West Virginia by ten early on Are you sensing
a theme? Is anybody sensing a theme? Nope? Okay, didn't think
so because this one happened at home. So what Nick just said. I
was nervous the whole time. Kansas led by six at half, despite and
it felt like that it should have been more. BYU played whole horrible in
the first half. They're only down six. You knew that they were going
to go on a run at some point. We didn't know they were gonna
make their last five or whatever it was, but you knew at one point
they were gonna make four of six and really shrink whatever the deficit was.
And you had said in the chat during the game that that was gonna happen,
but you caveat of it with so you better hope Kansas is up by
ten or twelve when it happens, or you're gonna end up losing the game.
And they were up twelve when it happened, and they still lost the
game. They were up twelve at most. They were up about four when
BYU really got it going. But yes, like and the free throws.
The free throws were the reason that it went from twelve to four. And
the three point shooting was the reason it went from four to l because wow,
that second half it seemed like I read that from like the eighteen minute
mark to the three minute mark they made like four shots in the second half
or something like that. Let's let's go ahead and rip the bandaid off lane?
And what is the problem with this team? I made a wise crack
about your takes about why is it Hunter Dickinson and Hunter Dickinson only I know
he's part of it. That's six conference losses, seven on the year.
What's wrong with him? I mean, I think there's there's a few little
things that add up to it, but I think the biggest thing, especially
with Kevin mccoler out, is they don't have a killer. They don't have
a guy. They don't have a true creator. And Hunter Dickinson, as
great as an offensive player as he is, you need You need a to
be a great team. You need a guard creator, a wing creator.
And even though I am pleased with the way Dwan Harris has increased his aggressiveness
in the last few weeks especially, I like the way he's playing and that's
good for Kansas, he is not exactly Devonte Graham. And I'm not saying
you need necessarily Davonte Graham, but you sure be nice someone it would be.
You need someone on the perimeter that can actually create, and Kevin McCuller
at least does his best to do so, so, especially when he is
out, that's a big problem. Obviously, they've lost several games with McCuller
in the lineup because he also even though he does try to create and he
is a good player, he is very very inefficient, especially lately, and
that has not helped Kansas either. And then little things like we've talked about
the rebounding outside of Hunter Dickinson and Johnny Furfey has been pretty suspect. They
are not a super stout defensive team, despite the fact that BYU hitting thirteen
threes does not have very much to do with the defense being suspect though it
was, you still really can't give a team like BYU, especially as many
open looks as they did, even if they didn't all drop. There's a
few little things. The bench. The bench wasn't even that bad. The
bench scored like what nine points for them as season's worth of points. Yeah,
so I think there's many little problems. Does that mean Kansas is gonna
lose everything. No, not necessarily. Last time I said that Kansas wouldn't
win anything the rest of the season, they won the National Championship. Remember
that show, Yeah that was but this team, Yeah, that was one
of our all time great shows. You might argue from a certain point of
view. I do think though, that this team reminds me increasingly more of
the eighteen nineteen team, especially now with mccullor's injury. We'll see exactly what
happens with all that. There's rumors going around. Who knows exactly what's happening.
Yeah, let's touch on that point, because wow, the comparisons between
that team and this one are. They just get more and more ominous almost
by the week. Because obviously, people remember the eighteen nineteen team as preseason
number one, just like this one. They came into this into that season
looking to win their fifteenth in a row, and people were thinking that,
man, this is gonna be one of the easier Big twelve titles because of
how good they were. We thought this team would roll. They both started
twelve and one. That team started off well. This team started off great.
Ddrich Lawson and Hunter Nickinson. I think a revert ofy reviewed as pretty
similar players, both very good offensive bigs with defensive fresh market fair. They
are very similar players. They're very similar players that don't grab the love of
the fans for a few intangible reasons. Quinton Grimes, a five star freshman,
was underwhelming. Almarco Jackson, same role. Charlie Moore a one of
the blue chip transfers who was gonna come in here and be their three point
specialists didn't work. Nick Timberlake fits that role here. You had o Chaia
Baji that year take the red shirt off, come off the bench in January,
and that was kind of the freshman emerged in the middle of the year
that was gonna save your season, just like Johnny Furfey has taken that role.
To be fair, Johnny Furfee this year has been better than freshman Oach
was as a whole, he has absolutely but Grimes was better than Almarco Jackson,
which may have kind of canceled that out. It evens out, and
then that team obviously had giant pieces missed time, whether it was because they
left the team La Gerald Vick or because they were injured, you know,
Kazabuki. And now we have Kevin mccullar in the same boat and Morris,
Hey, I forgot about Terry Morris. Yeah, that team on undefeated at
home. It looked like this year's team was gonna be the first team since
that one to go undefeated at home. They didn't. That team lost six
road games. This team has already lost five road games in conference play.
Nick, I want to give you the floor because you were on this a
little bit earlier than the rest of us. You questioned the roster construction from
the start of the season. We all kind of said, Nick, Timberlake
needs to be good and Kevin mccullar needs to be good, and if not,
this team's gonna struggle getting three point shooting. That was a bull.
He didn't even think that Elmarco Jackson would be bad. Yeah, we didn't
think el Marko would be bad, and we didn't think Furfy would be good.
Uh, we think Timberlake was going to miss the spinnish shots. Yeah,
exactly. So whenever you you were kind of on this team's roster construction
being a potential problem from the start, and I have a feeling that that's
in your mind, one of the biggest problems with this team. They're just
built kind of weird. Well, yeah, one of my big problems with
that was that the Artario Morris situation. I know, I've beaten the dead
horse here. I've mentioned a million times. Everyone's aware that his presence is
missing on this team. But legitimately, like you go to the back to
the Puerto Rico games and the team was scoring, no problem. Granted,
Bohemian national team, you know, Puerto Rico Rico Select team or whatever they're
called, not star college basketball rosters by any stretching the imagination, right,
but still good team, still good showing. But yeah, still good teams.
And Kansas had no problems two games, sample sizes to get that.
Kansas had no problems scoring on that trip, and a lot of that was
Arterio Morris. And you just think of that like the roster construction. He's
gone, and then you're forced to have and you got this weird point guard
situation where you don't have a true scoring point guard. Like we've said,
they whiffed on Omarco Jackson, Dwan Harris. We knew he was never going
to be the like the arch type that Atlanta just described that you'd get from
Devonte Graham. So you're already at the point guard spot really reeling for scoring.
The Nick Timberlake situation just has never turned it on completely here at Kansas
from the three point line, big miss there. Johnny Furfy Emergens has been
kind of a substitute, but not as much as for the lack of shooting
they've lost, or at least we thought we would have at the beginning of
the season. And like you said, just the lineup in the front court
KG Adams and Hunter Dickinson just not really great of a pairing situationally. A
lot of times it seems like kJ like tends to clog the pain up.
He's not super proficient in scoring around the basket unless it's a dunk. And
yeah, this team just has glaring issues. And I think the biggest thing
that stood out to me in this game was that a time and time again,
this team has proven that they cannot score in some stretches of the game.
We've seen it earlier this season, seen him down the stretch in this
game and in that huge swaff, like Ryan ha just talked about, where
they had the chance when the YU is missing shots to get something to fall,
but just turnovers, misshots, stupid possessions. Really did plague them and
has plagued them in all of their losses. Did uc F game so many
stretches down that game, Well, they just made some boneheaded decisions. West
Virginia the same case, although they were shooting in scored well in that game.
But West Virginia had got they got their best shot in case State's another
one where they just they hadated so many chances. Yep. Well, and
I look at I look at this, this roster makeup, and what I
learned in twenty nineteen and twenty nineteen is a bad example. Dope got hurt
and VIC left, even though I don't know how how much you could have
really been on Vic, but Dope got hurt and they were undefeated when he
played, So I can't critique that roster makeup. But what I remember watching
when they had Didrich at the five, a scoring five who's not a super
athlete, who can play outside the perimeter, but isn't a great shooter.
He's better than Dickinson, but and he was pretty much the only rebounder on
that team. And I remember watching there is okay, you have a team
that can't shoot threes very well, that's okay if you compliment it with lots
of offensive rebounds. Look at Houston, they don't shoot the three ball very
well, they don't even have a ton of size, but they compliment their
interior first scoring, Kansas is one of the best teams in the country scoring
inside the arc. If you're gonna do that and limit your three point attempts,
therefore limiting your three point makes you've gotta be able to get second and
third possessions chance possessions whenever your first two point shot doesn't go in, Because
if you're gonna miss a three and you're not gonna get the rebound, you're
not gonna score enough. And that's what I noticed going into this year.
With Nick right Arteria Morris would have helped a lot. He was the team's
second best player in those international games. He was awesome. But if you're
not gonna be a three point a capable three point shooting team like the twenty
nineteen to twenty team, that team didn't shoot the three ball very well from
compared to some of the recent teams that Bill self has had, but they
rebound it. They were great on the offensive glass, and every time they
got a second chance opportunity, they threw it into the seventy five percent shooting
cyclops in the middle. Pretty much every second chance they got was gonna wind
up with at least two points. This roster can't rebound. They have a
very good rebounder, but their overall rebounding metrics are very middle of the pack
despite having Hunter Dickinson, and they can't make threes. My criticism on kJ
Adams all year has been if you can't shoot or rebound, well, you're
gonna struggle as a player. Well, the same logic applies to a team
and Alan Fieldhouse land and we've talked about how that's rescued him time in and
time out. It couldn't do it here when they could not. The Allen
Fieldhouse crowd, as good as it is, it could not make the ball
go in the hoop. And BYU, we saw Baylor melt in those final
possessions. Young team led by freshmen haven't been there before, BYU. Lot
of juniors and seniors on that team. They played one hundred games in their
career. They played tournament games. They're not gonna be as intimidated by that.
CREA juniors and seniors are hyper junior and seniors right, Yeah, they're
in their mid twenties. Those guys aren't going to be as intimidated by this
atmosphere. And they weren't intimidated. They actually used one hundred dects in trying
to get under their skin a little bit and flip that game around. Not
gonna work against an experienced team like that that can make shots. Yeah,
yeah, that's all true. I don't I don't have a lot of disagreement
there. Uh. Yeah, if you can't shoot or rebound at a high
level, even one of those things is a thing that can can cap a
team pretty well. Rebounding again, we've seen rebounding be a weird stat.
But when you can't do either at a very high level, yeah, your
offensive ceiling just kind of plummets all of a sudden. And then you factor
in being out, you know, your second best player at worst in Kevin
mccullor, and yeah, all of a sudden, you're kind of up a
crick You don't have a guy that can get a bucket. Yeah, Kevin
mccullor could come back, and then that could be you know, I could
sort itself out. He could definitely be an X factor. I think if
Kevin mccullar does indeed play more this season. I don't think I go into
the tournament like I do with the eighteen nineteen team, where I don't really
expect anything. This team, they have better wins, They have a higher
floor, and I think they have a higher ceiling too, whenever all those
pieces are working. That team got bodied on the road. They lost by
fifteen to OHU. They just destroyed by Texas Tech. And that's when this
team has more experience. That team, even though Devon Dotson was a very
good player a freshman, Quintin Grimes a freshman, it had a lot of
inexperience in big moments, and it lost a couple of its more experienced players
injuries, whereas this team doesn't quite have that. If mccullar does play,
it's a much. It's a decently older team. Even with Furfy and Jackson,
they have a lot more experience. I think that contributes a lot to
their floor being higher, but I don't know that their ceiling is any higher
at all. It's probably a lower ceiling. Here are your stats. It's
the first home loss for Kansas since losing the TCU last January. The she's
won two Super Bowls in the time period that it took the Jayhawks to lose
a home game. It ends a nineteen game home winning streak, third longest
in the country. It also is already the sixth conference loss, which is
tying the most they've had on herself. They've done that twice nineteen and twenty
one, and it ties for the most they've had in any season of Kansas
basketball since nineteen eighty nine. You're one of the Roy Williams era, which
was who is the freaking president? Was that Bush Senior was the president back
then? That was five presidents ago, and very very likely they're going to
lose another one unless you think they went at Baylor in Houston. So this
is gonna be the most conference losses they've had in a while, and right
now if they're not even guaranteed a five hundred record. Okay, let's talk
about Bill Self's worst coaching job. No, this isn't Bill Sealves fault.
I know this is Bill selves fault. I don't think well, I think
Bill selves roster construction could use some criticism. Why is the roster construction a
mess? Because he went with Artario Morris. I say, I do think
a huge part of this that can't be overlooked. Is the roster construction wasn't
supposed to be this. It was supposed to have Artario Morris, who was
an athletic two that I know. I said in preseason, I didn't think
I would be very good. Well, he put his eggs in the basket
of a troublemaker who's had problems in the past, and then said, troublemaker
got in trouble and oh no, you could have filled that spot with a
lot of other pieces. I think that's Bill self's fault. But true,
if mcclor didn't get hurt there, I don't know. And that's again where
we're at very eighteen nineteen. Yeah, it's very eighteen nineteen where you could
go back and forth on what if and what if this and what if that?
Well, it's like, well if that happened, well if this happened,
and ultimately, like they a lot of the things have multiple answers because
that's just the nature of what ifs. Well, Nick, go ahead and
tell me about a hunter Dickens in stats, let's get into the players here
who I think that even though he was statistically the best, he's probably the
one people are talking about the most after this game. Yeah, Landon's favorite
player led Kansas with seventeen points and eleven rebounds in thirty minutes, but he
was atrocious six for fifteen from the free throw line and talked about how he
deserved a better whistle in this game. He got it, only to miss
nine free throws. Dickinson also got a technical foul when he walked through a
bu huddle early in the second half for no apparent reason, and that was
when bou was really getting going, as the Cougars outscored Kansas forty five to
twenty seven from that point on. That's a huge talking point. I love
crap like that. Hunter Dickinson wants to be a little jackass, that's fine,
but you better back it up. You walked through that kind of forming
huddle and the technical was stupid and whatever and got them riled up. And
you can sit here and say all you want, Well, who knows if
that happens. If he doesn't do that, I think it pissed byu off
And look at the stats right after that then they were plus eighteen on you
after you were in goo of the game and decided to walk through a huddle.
You want to be the bad guy. Cool. You want to put
your forearm in front of your crutch whenever you make big shots, fine by
me, but you better back it up. And all he did after that
was go six of fifteen at the free throw line. That's like, I
don't think Hunter Dickinson is the reason that they lost this game. The free
throws were huge, but but man like Landon, that feels like a big
if. That just feels like a couple things that you're sitting there scratching your
head, going why why walk in front of the huddle. Everything's going fine?
Yeah, And again, I think teams that have that kind of player
that get under your skin, be a thorn in your side on and off
the court. Kind of guy has some value and he can do things for
you. I'm watching the Denver Nuggets with Christian Brown on the floor right now
and he's that kind of guy as well. And you know, they won
a national championship with that kind of guy, and he pissed people off on
purpose a lot, and it worked Hudder Dickinson to do that. And I
think I think this is the thing that I'm starting to realize with Hunter Dickinson
is that it's not that he isn't a killer because I said, they don't
have that kind of guy. He can be, sometimes he is not consistently
that guy. And I also think that's partly just in modern college basketball.
Most centers don't have the ability to be that guy. More often than not.
It's much easier for a guard to be that guy. It's much easier
for a wing player to be a guy that can just take over rather than
a post player. Now, Hunter Dickinson can do it. He genuinely can.
We've seen it multiple times, you know. I mean, a guy
doesn't drop thirty and ten or twenty and twenty or you know, without without
being a guy. That's twenty twenty one against Kentucky where he was a killer,
right, A couple thirty and ten games, Like he's been that guy
for sure where you just give him the basketball and he scores, where yeah,
he is the killer, but he just he isn't consistent enough. And
that's the thing that separates really good players a La Dietrich Lawson or Hunter Dickinson,
really really really good players, like top end Big twelve players in their
in their season's top end bill self players. Over the course of his career,
it separates them from the Devonte Grahams. Obviously Frank Mason was another animal,
but it separates them from Sean Collins and and Graham and guys like that
that winner every night when you knew you needed a basket, those guys were
either going to score themselves or they were going to generate a play for someone
else to score. And it was gonna be the ball in their hands,
and you knew what was gonna happen. Even if the shot didn't go in.
You knew that those guys were gonna get a look or get someone else
a look, because that's the kind of player they were, and they could
generate that offense borderline on their own. And I don't think Hunter Dickinson has
that in him. Frankly, I don't think that Hunter Dickinson is being done
a lot of favors by this roster. I think, to be fair,
he's double team so much like Yes, obviously that's just what's happening to him.
I started the Doke versus Dickinson debate on Twitter, and they're just very
different players. I would take Hunter Dickinson over Doke. That may sound crazy,
especially on this team. This team needs offense. They have fewer players
that can create their own shot. Dickinson is one of the few that can.
I would take the offense on this team. But he's not the athlete
Doke was. He's not as efficient as Doke was, and he's nowhere near
the defender that Doake was. So I get both answers. Dickinson's one of
the three best center self has had. He's leading the conference in points right
now because mccullar hasn't played enough games at this point to qualify. He's leading
the conference and rebounds at this point. I have a hard time sitting here
saying the guy who's first in points and first and rebounds on the whole conference
is the reason this team is struggling. But something just isn't there. It's
just not there. It's like it's so close, and I yeah, I
don't want to say that it's the winner thing, but it's just it's a
guy that more that seems like just as often as he does, he doesn't
make the winning play. And I would love for him to stick around because
I think he will continue to get better. I think he's one of the
five best players in college basketball. Uh, but there's just something there.
Dude, Like, if you're gonna tick him off, you better back it
up. And yes, do I think he could benefit if you put guards
around him that could shoot wherever he's not. Just imagine this Hunter Dickinson on
the twenty eighteen Final four team that had four wings that could shoot that like
geez, he'd be on Newman's v Good, Gerald, Vick and Graham around
him. Yes, yeah, that's gonna be psycho. He'd be unstoppable.
I don't think Dickinson's passing ability that would be coming back next year. Absolutely,
he's absolutely coming back and put Dickens again and put dick I know,
I don't think. I think he'll come back. But I also don't know
if the Kansas fans have like the Kansas fans have a weird relationship with Hunter
Dickinson. He is public gettem me number one after a game where he leads
him in points and rebounds, Like I I don't know. He doesn't seem
to get too rattled by that stuff, but there's just something weird there.
I think gonna need really good nil money if he actually does leave, or
consider transferring right, two million dollars really money, really good money. Two
million reasons for him to stay at this point. But yeah, that's my
issue with Dickenson. If you're gonna have that attitude, you better back it
up. He didn't do it in this game. If he makes a good
chunk of his free throws in the ending of this game may go differently,
and you're gonna poke the bear, you better be capable whenever that bear roars
back on you to do something about it. And he didn't in this game.
Part of the reason that that bear wound up biting them was the white
guy of the game. There's many of them. Take pick your favorite.
By you made thirteen threes, they shot thirty eight percent, which really isn't
that far off from their averages. They averaged twelve, and they made thirteen.
They averaged thirty six percent. They made thirty eight. But they made
their last like four or five in this game or something like that, and
it just all came and they absolutely had to have him. They did.
Trav Dylan Dallan Hall is probably your pick for this award. He was won
for ten in his last two games, then he splashed in three, including
the dagger. Noah Waterman was two for three. Spencer Johnson made one Travan
now made one endless here. Here's a completely irrelevant question. Is Dallan a
specifically like Mormon name? Because there's a semi obscure band that I've kind of
listened to called i DK how but they found me. Uh. They They
are led by a guy who is also Mormon, and his name is Dallan
Weeks. And those are the only two Dallens I think I've ever heard of,
But they just so happened to both at least be associated with Mormonism.
Yeah, it is. It is one of the most used names among Mormon
boys. It is a namesake of Dallen h O. It's a member of
the Olds Church and former president of BYUM. I like it sounds like the
Jayhawks could use some Dallons. They instead just have a Johnny and a Nick
Landon. Tell me about KU's white guys of the game that didn't do what
Dallan did. Yeah. One four eleven from three from the two dalln esque
shooters, if you will on Kansas A Lot of Bricks, A lot of
bricks. Timberlake's Loanmak tied the game with three minutes left a huge make,
but he was one for nine from the floor in thirty three minutes and the
last two shots. I feel like I've cut you off a thousand times tonight.
H that's a thousand times back at you, so we're even it'll work.
Then, Nick Timberlake, the last couple possessions, his shots were seriously
so bad. They were so short and so bad. Furfey was he had
like a pretty good game generally speaking. He had he made four twos,
he had nine boards, ten points, but he was zero for five from
three, And obviously, in a game where you lose by eight and the
other team is bombing away threes over and over again, making at least one
or two of those would have been really nice. Nick, What do you
make of Johnny Furfey and Nick Timberlake? Not a great night at the office
for those guys, especially from deep. Yeah, uh, not great,
Bob. The threes and free throws like they Kansas was a minus thirty on
threes. We knew coming into this game. They were great basketball games.
Yeah, you're not winning. I don't know if I've ever seen a team
win whenever they're minus thirty on threes. The refs helped Kansas for most of
the night. Then they just decided they were gonna flip it on its head.
Uh. But whenever you're minus thirty, I don't care what the foul
discrepancy is. And then you you miss free throws on top of that,
like normally that the name of what that is is you're trading twos for threes.
They were trading zeros or free throws for threes down the stretch of that
game. Kansas three threes YU thirteen. Kansas was also nineteen for thirty one
from the free throw line, which is a not good sixty one percent.
But that's not fair to the team because the bad was almost all one player
players not named Hunter thirteen of sixteen for the Jayhawks. The refs called twenty
five fouls on BYU and Kansas completely squandered it. I feel like that's another
thing that that Nick talked about, Like we've talked about Hunter Dickinson gets such
a lousy whistle, Zach Edy, This Zach Edy that Hunter Dickinson finally gets
the whistle that we've been wanting him to get, and he didn't do anything
with it. All those free throws bricked out and Dickinson had an off night
for sure. Dickinson's a career seventy five percent three point or free throw shooter
that went six for fifteen. That's not normal. Kansas was fifteen percent under
their season average in this game. That's a little bit fluky. They're not
They're not a sixty one percent free throw shooting team. But man, the
missus sting, don't they? Yeah, especially when you have one guy that's
getting the line so much and is just he made he missed his last six.
That was their strategy. I watching that game. That was BYU's strategy.
They were gonna hack him and make him do that. And why was
kJ Adams bill self's play call recipient later on because he knew if he called
the play for Hunter or they were gonna slap his arm and he was gonna
miss the free throws. Not what you want from your two million dollar player.
Also, not ever what you want the rest as six fouls on Kansas
after Mark Pope's technical none on BYU, you could almost say that changed the
game. They called forty three total fouls in a forty minute game. BYU
was completely getting the shaft. I know they were fouling a lot, but
they were calling everything on the Cougars. And then the technical happened, and
whoop flip. That goes some awful officiating, as is most nights in this
conference, Nick tell me about kJ Adams. Yeah, uh, Kevin James.
I don't know if that's what kJ means. Adams said eleven points,
five rebounds, two steals, two blocks, and thirty four minutes five to
thirteen from the floor. Sinceing Hunter could make a free throw and nobody could
make a three, Billsoff called for kJ to to the basket several times down
the stretch, but he kept missing the shot. This is a mashup that
he should have dominated, and he was invisible in the second half. Ryan
again, you've you've you jumped on this early. kJ Adams has been a
liability, particularly scoring. Anything to add while you were half right, it's
Kevin Win Adams Junior, which apparently the kJ is for the J and kJ
is for junior, so that's really there's the name. Stat Look, man,
I don't want to bang the drama again on this, but I think
kJ Adams is a liability. I I love watching him play. I'm looking
at next year Hunter's probably back. You're bringing in a four man that can
rebound, well, kJ cannot play thirty minutes a game next to Hunter Dickinson.
He cannot do that. You cannot bring these two back as your starters.
kJ can't rebound. He has all the athleticism in the world. Your
fore man can't rebound on a team that struggles to rebound. Look no further
like, and then he can't make anything outside of three feet from the basket.
And this game he wasn't doing that. Hunter was struggling. He's allowed
to have off nights. Kj's gotta be the one that picks up that slack
on a night you're not making threes. And I saw some people on Twitter
saying, well, it's not kj's fault. No one could make a three,
and Hunter couldn't score inside, and no one could rebound. Yes,
but that's all so Kj's fault because kJ can't help any of those guys with
those things. Landon, is that fair? I'm losing patience with a guy
that's so electric to watch and has such good highlights, but I think is
lacking two vital things. You're a fore man in this day and agent college
basketball has to be able to do. I'd rather have them go out and
portal in a six' nine stretch four who can shoot a little bit and
rebound. Yeah, we've talked about this a lot this season. I think
I think you're largely correct. Unfortunately, what's either gonna have to happen is
Bill maybe he can't do it this season because he just doesn't have the bodies.
Next year you might have to either if kJ comes back, you either
have to have him and Flory be okay playing a four round one I think
to get the best out of it, which we'll see if they want to
do that, or kJ Adams is gonna have to start knocking down threes.
If I don't, I don't have faith that that's gonna happen. So I
like Kej Adams a lot of the guy. He seems like a really nice
guy. Obviously, he's had a really uh crappy year this year off the
court, good decently good year on it in a vacuum, but I don't
disagree. I I think he he could have a really really nice role on
a different team, a really good team, even if they're willing to play
small ball with him and as their true five. Uh. He did really
well in that role for Kansas last season. I think he could play that.
I I do think that from a basketball perspective, if Dickinson's coming back
and with Flory uh In in the wings next season, I think there might
not be a starting spot for kJ Adams, at least he can't start.
I think that's good. Is going to start next to Hunter? No,
I don't. I think Kj's gonna start next to Hunter, but I think
they might be better if they if Flori does play more. kJ is averaging
twelve points a game as a four man. That's great. That's literally the
only stat you care about your four men doing. I know he's got three
assests per game, but that's not something that wins games. Whenever your four
men passes. Kj's averaging four rebounds a game, playing thirty four minutes a
game as the four. He's less than six the line if he was like
a thirty point shooter. Also, yes, if he plays out by the
perimeter and you play four out. But he can't shoot free throws career sixty
percent even lower than that. This year, he's never made a three in
his career. Oh for seven? Is kJ shooting threes most of which I'm
sure of those are just into the shot clock keys? And is he is
he a good defensive player, he doesn't really keep bigger four men in front
of him. I don't know. I just don't see the fit. I
like the player, I don't see the fit. And I think that if
you throw Hunter Dickinson out and you get a different kind of five man,
you get a freaking Dylan to Sue type. Okay, now, that can
work those guys together. But Hunter Dickinson's not an athlete, and he doesn't
have a vertical and he's your bruising, rebounding big. You can't stick the
guy right next to a four man that doesn't leave the paint. It doesn't
work. It makes life worse for Hunter, and it makes life worse for
the three point shooters. Yeah, and that's the thing. It really is
all fit. It's not that kJ Adams is a bad basketball player. He's
a very good basketball player, I think. But yeah, I agree,
I think I think fit for especially this team specifically, it really does hurt
when you have a guy that is a much more traditional and I know Hunter
can pop out and hit the jumpers and stuff, but he is usually at
his best back to the basket, and that's how they want to play one
on the block and kJ is not conducive to playing that well players that You
really can't blame this on Dwan Harris twelve points on four of nine shooting,
with six assists and four turnovers, all of those coming in the first half.
He was better in the second half. Uh. Dwan Harris should have
had twelve assists, but Nicholas brick Factory Timberlake cannot hit the broadside of a
barn with a beach ball in his hands, so he did he only finished
with six. Uh. The bench was fine. Oh, Nick Timberlake,
Dude, we didn't I know that, we read the stats and but oh
my gosh. And the worst part I feel like I did with Grimes and
Charlie Moore. You know what they are. You know it's not getting better,
but you're like, you have to keep trying it because who else He's
better than Alamarco Jackson. And again, at least Grimes actually gave you like
eight points. Yeah, it's like I used the casino reference to describe Texas
in the last episode, but it's literally that guy that is down fifty six
thousand dollars in his retirement fun in the casino playing blackjack, but he knows
the next the next one's gonna be he's gonna hit the jackpot, and the
next one he's gonna he's gonna win all the money back. Anyone this next
turn, you just wait, I'll make twenty thousand dollars back. That's Timberlake.
We're hoping him to make some threes. Well, and that's kind of
what happened. Honestly, were fifty grand down and the last poll of the
slot machine won twenty grand back. Timberlake played well against Texas, and we're
like, you think, oh, here we go, we're getting hot,
and you forget that you're still very much in the hole for the whole year.
And look, they just lost a bunch more money with this, because
God was what would the Remy analogy part? What would the Remy Artant analogy
be? Part of that is that you go down a good one hundred spot
in Vegas and then all of a sudden you hit the Mega million's jackpot.
I think that with Remy he was the best March player in the history of
college basketball. Yeah, I think that's winning like a billion dollars in the
Remy was so proven though. Remy was so much more proven than this.
We had confidence that Remy would explode in March because we've seen him play basketball
at a high level at a power league. Timberlake, you're really just you're
you're wishing on a star. And that team also had like the Big Twelve
Player of the year on it in a lottery pick, which this team might
actually, weirdly enough, have both of those things too small Shed's winning Big
twelve Player of the Year, but yeah, they may have. They're gonna
have the leading scorer and the leading rebounder in the league, which is and
maybe a lottery pick depending on what happens with Al Furfy the bench, Parker
Brown, Jamary McDowell, Elmarco Jackson combined for nine points on four of seven
shooting. It's not great, but if Timberlake plays okay, that should be
enough to help get you there. At home against the middle of the Big
twelve, middle of the pack team, they were fine. El Marco cannot
and will not shoot. He had a possession where he just couldn't keep track
of the ball at all and it was kept bouncing off of everything. Just
I would rather them try Timberlake than Jackson at this point, and that's tough
to say with a straight face. Yeah, it's it's just this team.
It just feels like everybody's close, but there's just something not quite there.
They've won all these big games we've seen them. They have a great resume.
Even with these They're gonna get to nine or ten losses before the tournament
and still probably be like a three or four at the lowest seed because their
resume stacked and all that implies if they can, if they can get it
all to work at one time, they can still be one of the best
teams in the country and maybe ye'll run out a final four. I don't
have a lot of faith that that's gonna happen, but it is. I
think they're gonna go further than people currently think. I think this is the
low point for people. Sweet sixteen, Sweet sixteen. I if they get
to I think they're gonna have a better March tournament than people think. As
long as the color playing they get a draw. Yeah, that's the thing.
They're doing a good draw too, because last year was bunsu Ku shot
thirty thirty nine percent from the floor, which is ass b Yu not a
great defensive team, and Kansas couldn't make anything twenty percent from three. There
are two gignantic juicy buns. Yes, especially against the team it's gonna make
threes and sixty one percent of the line land, how about a third juicy
bun for you? Also only plus three on the glass on a night wherever
their opponent missed a lot of shots early on. This really is this is
a big mac. This is three buns. Yeah, yeah, three buns
and no, at least a big mac is good. This is just this
is three buns with no sauce. Well, do we have any closing thoughts
on this game? It was a disappointing home loss. We don't talk about
a lot of home losses. I like three with no sauce. So I'm
gonna leave you with that. That's what was nick. Any closing thoughts White
guys, No, Well you asked for it. I had somebody in my
mentions because that the end of game tweet was like the white guys got it
going in the end, and someone's like, I don't understand the white guys.
Would you say that if they were black guys? And I'm just like
just like yeah, I'm like I don't have the the energy to explain that.
Everybody who looks like the three of us all merge together make threes against.
It's also more about a metaphorical white guy at this right. Yeah,
but sometimes it doesn't have to be metaphorical. Sometimes it's a white Horman named
Dollan exactly. So he goes out there were the most literal white guy.
You and I saw people be like, oh my god, this seems so
bad. According to three Yeah, hunter Nigginson's got two hands in Dallan Hall's
face with about an eighteen inch high difference, and he still splashes it.
Yeah. Nothing you can do. Nothing you can do except for talking about
these other games and well, Big twelve games. Back to having a full
arsenal of Big twelve games in the hopper to talk about every show the rest
of the way, Number fifteen, Baylor sixty two, TCU fifty four.
Well, and and we just talked about buns. I think that we were
all once again too high on the horn frogs. They also might be buns.
Yeah, I think it's really easy to buy into the horn frogs.
We usually do, and they usually let us down. Baylor's defense was the
answer here. It's also complete opposite of the one hundred and whatever to one
hundred and whatever game I never forgot about that. Yeah, played in Waco,
but Baylor hell TCU to thirty three percent from the floor, which is
worse than Kansas somehow. The Bears also got sixteen points from Jacoby Walter to
end their two game losing skid. TCU nineteen and nine. They should be
in the Dance, but with a very lackluster non con schedule, not quite
as safe as you might think, though. I do think the Committee is
very high on the Big Twelve, So I think unless you see an epic
collapse from TCU here in the last couple of weeks, they should be safe.
TCU right now eight and seven and Big Twelve play their last three games
at BYU at West Virginia, Central Florida at home. They should win two.
That's gonna be big because if they can get to ten and eight,
I think that's pretty safe. If they're nine to nine, which is the
Jamie Dixon Special, and they bow out early in the Big Twelve tournament,
and usually if that think about it, if they're bowing out early, that
means teams like Case State on the bubble, Oklahoma on the bubble, they
rise up a little bit. Just you're gonna want to win two more games
to be super sure three for a lock. I think if you're TCU,
it's closer than you think. Kansas State ninety four, Well, it's an
overtime, so they're definitely gonna be read first. West Virginia ninety in over
time, Nick, this was a barn burner, but it ends the way
every Jerome Tang overtime game ends. Yeah, Kansas State seven to zero overtime
games this year, which is an NCAA record. Jerome Tang is twelve to
zero, which is also an NCAA record. But this game was sixty six
to forty one with thirteen minutes left before West Virginia's united a thirty six to
eight run, taking a brief lead before overtime. Twenty nine points from Tyler
Perry, including six threes. Rake one battle nearly matched him with twenty eight
in six threes. The Wildcats are firmly on the bubble of the NCAA tournament
conversations. I think they're clearly out right now, but okay, they're right
there. It's it's the same thing with a non conference schedule, like they
they really only played three legitimate teams in non con usc Providence and Nebraska.
Yeah, and and they lost two of those games. They won the other
end. You're gonna be shocked overtime. But they beat Baylor and they beat
Kansas. TCU can't say that about either one. No, TCU did be
Baylor. I guess. I think they have basically the same resume that that
game they blew in Lubbock is is pretty big right now. That's there.
They're seven and eight their last three games at Cincinnati, at Kansas versus Iowa
State. That's that's trouble there. They they probably got to win two of
those, and I don't know if they have it in them to win two
of them. Is that fair? Yeah? I think it is, unless
they go to overtime, in which case they're winning them all because good lay,
they should just get games to overtime no matter what and they won't lose.
Apparently they call it over Tang and Manhattan, and it was Jerome Tang
was called out the students afterwards. He said, Hey, look, whenever
my office gets texts and calls from unions on campus wanting us to speak at
rallies, we're there. I need you guys to show up at our games.
I think I have a solution for you, mister Jerome. I think
you should just make your opponents wear red and blue warm ups every time there's
a game at Bramwich, and then they're gonna fill the stands. You may
even hear during you know, Cincinnati or Oklahoma States intros, You may hear
this. Yeah, I think. I think Manhattan Manhattan folk are sneakily pretentious
because they like paying like four times as much as they normally have to for
basketball tickets. Yeah, yeah, that's that's how it works. Number one
Houston sixty seven, Cincinnati fifty nine. LJ. Cryer twenty two points,
Jamal shed Big twelve plays your favorite right now, nine points and eleven assists.
Houston is to the brink of clinching a share of the Big twelve title.
Iowa State's really their only remaining competition. A horrible night for the Bear
catch twenty three fouls, twenty one baskets, nineteen turnovers. That's all bad,
such as life when you play at the number one defense in the country.
Houston continues to be my worst take of the season. I thought that
they would struggle more in Big twelve play than they had. They are a
brilliant basketball team and as good of a chance as anybody out there to cut
down the nets. Right, Yeah, I think so. I think they're
definitely in the elite tear this season. This will be a fun one for
you to read about. Land in Texas eighty one Texas Tech sixty nine,
And it wasn't that close, but it won't be remembered for that. Dylan
Desoue scored twenty one four Texas As. The Longhorns continue to be confusing to
figure out. They actually led by his Mani's twenty nine in this game in
the second half, but that is far from the biggest takeaway from this game.
Brought Cunningham slammed himself into a Texas Tech player fighting for a loose ball,
getting called for flagrant two, which I think was a fair call.
I mean this was like a hockey check level. Oh yeah, Frank Rascilla
said, that's just good basketball. But I watched the highlight of this,
and yeah, that's insane. That is an insane thing to say, Fran.
Imagine Fran being wrong. Oh wait, I can. It's very common.
But then, even though I think borderline dirty play bad play, the
Texas Tech fans started throwing stuff on. The Technicals were called on Texas Tech
as a team because of this, which led Grant McCaslin to hop on the
mic the PA announcers Mike and implore the crowd to stop, which eventually they
did. They finished the game, but a pretty wild scene there in Lubbock,
in a game that Texas Tech would very much like to forget for a
lot of reasons at this point. There that's my yeat sound effect. I
was trying to find a good one. Yeah, multiple technicoles get called the
Big twelve. Reps had no control over anything. Shocking, and Texas Tech
fans, you know, they chanted, They got mad at me whenever I
said there we want Kevin chant was kind of lousy for a player that wasn't
playing, and you wait till you're blowing them out to chant it and then
you had this. It's just like, okay, not the best look couple
times this year for Texas Tech. Texas was just railing them when that happened
too. It was like a twenty point game, and yeah, Texas Tech
kind of starting to fall a little bit. Texas, Uh, probably not
gonna make the tournament, but good luck. Number eight Iowa State fifty eight,
Oklahoma forty five. Nick, I'm sorry you stayed up late, and
your reward is getting to read about this terrible basketball this really good circa twenty
seventeen Big Toll football game. The Cyclones remained in second place, and this
game was absolutely fun. They shot thirty three percent win by thirteen the most
of all start any of the ten starters in this game. Score it is
nine points Portermosors. Team has lost three, all by double digits, and
the one win was a miracle buzzer beating overtime three to beat the last place
team in the league. They should be in the NCAATE tournament. No,
yeah, I don't know. Oklahoma's like a nine seed right now in ESPN's
bracket. I predict they miss. They're just not like, come on that,
this isn't TCUs better than Oklahoma. And I know that Kansas State got
bent over by them at Bramledge because they only make threes at Bramwiche against Kansas.
But Oklahoma is not better than any of these teams. I don't need
them in the tournament. I don't need them to be an eleven seed to
lose by fifteen points to a six Seed Saint Mary's. I don't need that.
Do you need that? I don't need that. Nope, no one
does. I also don't need to ever hear any of these teams. Landon,
I'd like you to read about this because I'll control the Sounders. UCF
seventy seven Oklahoma State seventy one. This game had a truly remarkable fifty four
fouls. I think the reps were going for the over on them. They
clearly smashed it. Four players fouled out, seven have at least four fouls.
Look okay, people paid American dollars to watch UC of Oklahoma State and
then the refs decided to be masochists or sadists or something good American citizens to
fifty four fouls for UC of Oklahoma State. That feels wrong. That,
that feels like a crime. Good week in the long run of hope,
Mike Boyton is getting right back on that. He's definitely getting fired train unfortunately
for him. Yeah, his days are numbered there in Stillwater. They have
been all year. There was a Saint John's game earlier this year where they
set a big East record, land And I think you and I read about
that. It was like forty six fouls or something, and this game had
fifty four by itself in a Big twelve game, Like, is that the
Big twelve record? It has to be. I always look at that set.
I've never seen one higher, and reffs have never called more than they're
calling right now. That has to be a Big twelve record, And it
was in It was in a game between two awful basketball teams. Like who
sat through all this? They should get a T shirt for their participation At
this point, I serve Big twelve u CF Oklahoma State fifty four fouls and
all I got was the dumb T shirt. I think they played two games
this year in case you wanted to know how many how many unnecessary games?
The sport has Big twelve standings, closing in on a Big twelve ship in
their first year. First place, Houston twelve and three. The one team
that might be able to challenge them Iowa State in second place, third place.
It's been since the George hw A George hw Bush administrations and since Kansas
when this lost this many conference games with Baylor at nine to six, that's
pretty wild that, at least since tax Nik that they're that their most losses
in conference play and they're still in third place. In fifth place, Texas
Tech, TCU and b YU, they're all eight and seven and firmly and
the little better than average in the slightly below average tied for eighth. Oklahoma,
Texas k State all seven and eight in the This should be a reserved
for TCU only, but UCF occupies the number eleventh spot at six and nine.
Cincinnati's five and ten. Nobody cares. No one's a fan of them,
and we care even less in thirteenth West Virginia and Oklahoma State four and
eleven. So according to this, Texas is a ten seed and Joe Lenardi's
team and Oklahoma is an eight seed. Hey, Joe, hang it up,
you dumb. Seriously, Rodney Terry's glasses would fit between the gap and
Joe Lenardi's front two teeth. It's time to hang it up because Texas who
is as right? We saw that game a week ago at Allen, but
they're better than ou. What are we doing? What are we doing other
games? Well, we've played the bagpipes on the last show. Guys.
I feel so stupid. I can't believe I didn't see it coming, that
this wasn't actually all that the media cracked it up to be because Kyle Philipowski
played a perfectly normal amount of minutes and number ten Dukes black thing of Louisville
goodness. See, dude, give us their first real reason to hate them
since coach k left. Basketball is more fun when everybody hates Duke. In
case you were following along at home, in a four day window, Kyle
Philipowski went from hobbling off the court like he was shot in a World War
two battle in the ankle too, being a little sore to play in a
full amount of minutes. I was hoping he'd miss the Louisville game. You
know, they would sit him because it's Louisville, and then we would really
get that they missed the game because of this. This is an outrage.
Ja Billis wants people thrown in jail for storming courts. By the way,
in case you missed it, not, I know that sounds like a Ryan
hyperbole being dramatic moment, it's not. He said to keep them on the
court in sight and arrest every one of them. Wow, that seems normal.
It's a normal thing to say. Huh, he is a duchie,
he's a lawyer. Don't forget elsewhere in the AC scene. I'm not.
North Carolina got a record breaking forty two points from all J. Davis and
thirty three points from literally everyone else on the roster to narrowly escape Miami at
home seventy five seventy one. Duke and You and See are tied at fourteen
and three atop the league with three games left. Also, Virginia scored two
weeks worth of points in a seventy two to sixty eight win at Boston College.
I didn't know they were even capable of breaking sixty, but look they
got. They had twenty four at halftime, so something crazy happened. Afterwards
they got like the you know, I ever played backyard basketball as a kid,
when you got that juice box power up and it would like make it
two xes good. That's what must have happened. You know they got that
in the doughnut where you could dunk from anywhere. Yeah yeah. And then
they still only barely got into the seventies. They remain in third place.
Please please, please, Committee, do not put them in the tournament.
I cannot bear to watch this. I try to watch at least a couple
minutes of every single tournament game. But if Virginia watch that, why I
will sacrifice that stat I'll walk my dog. I don't even have a dog.
I'll walk my dog whenever they put the Virginia game on the TV.
You just have a four way leash for your cats. Bryan has four cats.
For those of you that didn't know, I've babysat them several times.
I have yes, no problem. He pays me to do it. It's
fun when I go to see continues to be balanced because it just means more.
Number fourteen scored one hundred and three points, and when it all miss
well, Number four and Tennessee got thirty nine points from Dalton Neck to survive
eleven Auburn ninety to eighty four. The Tide and the Volunteers are both twelve
and three, good for a first place tie in the league. I know
that Zachiati is gonna be the National Player of the Year, but oh my
gosh, Dalton Neck is so good like that. That dude is a monster.
Tennessee is always pretty underwhelming in the dance. He might be the reason
this one. Here I go again. Lucy's gonna let me kick the football
this time for real. I'm gonna bet on Rick Barnes going deep. But
he's got a hell of a player. He's got the best player he's had
since Durant, Like, really, isn't that far. It's been a long
time since he had a player that good. Then that's the grad transfer that
you thought you were gonna get. Instead Kansas got Nick Timberlake. Other notewhere.
The SEC results include third place number eight in South Carolina. There are
yes, and this is a pretty good league too. I think it's the
second best league out there. Number eighteen South Carolina one at am M,
who's horrible now, Number sixteen Kentucky barely came back to beat Mississippi State there
and fourth and then of course everybody in this league's pretty good except for who
was game on the road in Gainesville, losing by just a few though.
At number twenty four Florida, the Tigers are oh and fifteen. I would
push fifteen times, but it's getting to the point where it's too many times
to push the button in one setting. They've lost eighteen of nineteen since I
said they were gonna be a twenty win team. The Big East saw wins
from her five market over Providence, and twelfth Creighton Overseaton Hull Well Idle Number
three Yukon maintained a two game lead in the race. These three teams plus
Seaton Hall, who is around fourth year they're having there, have pulled away
from the rest of the field. And someone who has separated from the rest
of the field in the wrong direction is De Paul, who remains winless in
conference play. They are. Oh and Charlie Moore played for them, Yeah,
he did. He played for He played for half the schools out there
for being on didn't tie On played for De Paul too. I don't think
he ever played. I think isn't that where he got really injured? Like
he played like a minute and then he was on the roster. Yeah,
so DePaul's leading three point shooter is shooting. Let's take a look here.
Wow, they have a guy who's getting forty six percent from three and he
takes several a game. How How are they that bad? What is the
problem? Yeah, there's a lot of twenties on this roster, not a
lot of rebounds, not a lot of points, not a lot of baskets.
Lots of turnovers though. Yeah, and then in the Big East Saw
wins from number five Marquette over prop in years number twelve create never seat Hall.
Nobody cares. Oh you already read that? Yeah, sorry, I
saw the call again. Uh, this game hasn't officially happened yet. I
just wanted to skip the West Coast Conference reading because I don't care. But
number seventeen Saint Mary's, Oh, oh, I'm sorry, Yeah, was
a huge favorite at Pepperdine. That is not the snack brand, that is
school. If they won it, they would officially clinch it out right.
West Coast Conference island. Gonzaga's run of eleven straight ships. Wow, what
a team, man, That almost rivals Kansas as fort thirteenth straight. You
know, I like you. I like how you corrected it from fourteen to
thirteen. Good NCAA compliance there, sir. Yeah, Saint Mary's is gonna
win at Pepperdine. This game's over by the time you listen to it.
If for some reason they didn't, all they have to do is beat Gonzaga
at home on Saturday to still win the league, and this conference race is
about over. Good run for Gonzaga, though, like I know, we
dump on the see see you do anything? Eleven straight times is pretty cool.
Good for them, good run, that's coming to an end, and
I'll like good. I brushed my teeth eleven straight days. I mean that
was pretty awesome. Broke my previous record from nine. It's about as impressive
if we're being honest, and that streak has to end at some point too.
In the Big Ten, Michigan State lost to Ohio State on a crazy
buzzer beating three. The Spartans are so bad. We need to have a
conversation about Tom Izzo at this point. Number thirteen Perdue beating Innnesota. He's
overrated and he's also a hothead who can't control his anger. His record in
the last like five or six years is almost identical to Juwan Howard's do with
that as what you will, speaking of anger problems. Number thirteen Perdue,
that's not right. Why why? Number thirteen Illinois is what I meant to
say there? They won at in a super sexy one oh five ninety seven
regulation basketball game. Remember when the show was good? Yeah? I remember
when basketball was good? And Andy Ena beat Wisconsin despite having to take a
twenty minute evacuation break in the second half because somebody pulled a fire alarm.
Yes, that did happen. They evacuated the student section when it got tied
and Indiana one. Good job, Mike Woodson, you got one. Number
six. Arizona crushed Arizona State on the road. They're gonna win. The
PAC twelve a terrible league. That is the packed one as ass ass Mountain
West, Pack twelve White was very good. It's actually a very good league.
The number twenty two, Utah State, Boise State, twenty, San
Diego State, Nevada, and UNLB all one this week are within a game
of each other for the league lead. How many power leagues? Is this
conference better than? At least one? It's better than the Big ten.
It's better that it's better than the PAC twelve. Geez, I think it's
better in the ACC. I think all those teams are better than Virginia.
Yeah, that has better teams at the top. But it's right. It's
it's the fourth best league in the country at worst. Big twelve and SEC
haven't beat Big East. Is close. It's better than the ACC. Like
you're telling me that some of those teams aren't everybody's gonnas duke. They are.
Utah State would be fourteen and three against that schedule. They can't beat
Louisville and Notre Dame. Did we talk about how Mississippi Valley State won yet?
I don't remember if we did. I don't think we did. But
they did. They beat Prairie View A and M at home on Monday Night.
They're one and twenty seven now on the season. Congratulations you guys.
You guys won a game. There was a court storm. Nobody tell j
Billis he'll have you all thrown in the slammer. Dang yeah that the state
troopers are en route. Ray teams to loose. It's the last show.
Not many number seven, damn it lost to BYU and number eleven Auburn lost
to Tennessee. That's it. It's all the nesting to this podcast. Oh
wow, I was gonna give you a pick up compliment, sir, but
fine, BA ask RCB. Well, the first question has come from at
Nick, who says, so when are Nick and Landon going on a Maggiano's
date to get the Marcos two for fifty. We said, you guys started
talking about maggiano is like an hour ago, and apparently that's all that's been
on your brain. Also, you guys are going on a date. Uh
yeah, Nicka. I proposed to Nick that we should go to propose to
meyd Italian place where you might have to dress up. People may think we're
a gay couple when it happens we are. It's okay, it may look
that way. Somebody asked Bill. Somebody asked Bill self today if Caitlin Clark
could play on this KU team. We've officially run out of questions to ask
guys the other that's it. That's it, you know, whenever it's an
ITP discussion question that if it's asked the Bill self that it's bad anything talked
about that. Okay, So I think that you guys did great on the
question. This week, there's a hilarious amount of nonsense and jokes at our
expense and actual basketball stuff. This is gonna be a good round here.
Let's start with one of our favorites at Kim Lipolt Golf. How did Kyle
Philipowski go from looking like he got sniped by Lee Harvey Oswald to playing thirty
minutes last night? Duke? That's how it's that. It's that Duke medical
school man. It's just this brotherhood, that brotherhood. They just want it
more. Really ridiculous because he was never really that hurt. Law school.
I think it's both, isn't it. Duke Law School is definitely a thing.
Duke Medical School is also a thing. It's a school of medicine law
school. There you go, yeah, they got they have good medicine.
And that there's a picture that's going around that some student got right as they
were crossing paths with Philipowski in the court storm where he's doing like the mac
Jones hobbling off with a hurt ankle, like crying for his mommy face,
and he was just fine because his soul is in pain. But that's yeah,
and you would too if you played for Belichick at AJ Stevenson. Does
Duke create people like Grayson Allen or Kyle Philipowski or do people like Alan philip
and Philipowski just choose to go to Duke Yes, brotherhood. Yeah, it's
it's I mean, they clearly are well. So the school that likes to
like point and almost touch players in bounding the ball is going to talk about
how fans shouldn't interfere with games. I think that's rich. I also think
that Grayson Allen is the dukiest player ever, like Philipowski is This is a
duchy move for sure, but there's never gonna be another Grayson Allen. Yeah,
he's second only the latterer at dick Underscore Taser. When will it end?
What's the worst month? Correct? It's February. Can you believe goons
are celebrating this extra day? Why? Worst? Still? Cold? Football
is over? Valentine's Day? Still no time change? KU looked bad and
everyone is mad. Go ahead, change my mind. These are all excellent
reasons. January is the worst month of the year. It's colder than February.
This February has been just fine, thank you very much. February is
the second worst month of the year. I like Valentine's Day, by the
way, I'm not I'm it's a good holiday. I'm gonna come in with
a spicy take February. Yah, here it comes. The July sucks.
It is bad Kansas podcast. Way too hot, way too often. Fourth
of July is an overrated holiday. And may I say once again that it
is way too hot. This has been a very good and pleasant weather February,
but it is It's I'll give it a pass because it's shorter than January.
So January is, by the the worst. But after the Chiefs win
the super Bowl, which is happening more years than not in the last few,
which is amazing. Uh, it becomes kind of just dragon and everybody
just wants the tournament. And yes, K, you bad, but Kay
has also had bad januaries too. It happens both times at Boom and Frosty.
Uh, says Nick, ahem, you can't count, and K you
should ask for their diploma back. You said one ninety seven to one fifty
six for a thirty one point win. It's actually forty one, like Landon
correctly pointed out. To make it worse, you went into a rant about
how homeschooling kids can't count as somebody who also has a master's degree. You
should be ashamed. I'm so sorry. Thank you, Boom and Frosty.
Justice for the homeschoolers. Let's let's let's talk about that. Then. Are
Frosty's good? Yeah, yeah, they're booming. They're not They're not the
best. Listen, Custard's so like our true magic of a Frosty is that
it's only attempting to be a Frosty and it succeeds so well that Okay,
what's better a Wendy's Frosty, or like the Pizza Street ice cream that you
serve yourself and put into a bowl and it swirls a frosty frosty. By
far, regular machines are tracked. One going to Pizza Street means you've lost
if you go to Pizza Street. You know how some restaurants and they go
ding whenever you walk in you when you walk into Pizza Street, they play
this. You just get the family, You just lose your job. It's
so not good. But the ice cream one should go there. It should
be shut down. The amount of health violation health Pizza Street is so many.
I picked up an Uber delivery from there once, uh one time ever
and the hundreds, if not thousand of deliveries I've done. Some owner to
go pizza from Pizza Street and it was in a hotel, which means that
these poor people probably were just looking for like a local pizza place and didn't
know that Pizza Street. They're like, oh, we'll give this Pizza Street
place a shot. And I was just screaming as I was like handing it
to them, like don't touch this please. Six kids picked their nose immediately
before touching that pizza pizzaz Street. Is that a Kansas? It's in Oleitha.
Yeah, it's used to be really good. They used to have it
for it's bad. Yeah, it's dragged me Ryan, Yeah, it's it's
like CC's but much worse somehow, so much worse. Yeah, didn't try
well, which just like saying if we didn't try, how much worse it
get? At A. J. Stevenson, can we start calling him Fran
for she lyar since he refuses to say Kevin's name correctly? Pretty funny and
as as he always says every time he says Kevin's name incorrectly, Kevin sits
out a game checking basketball. Oh god, that was an accident. That's
what happens if you eat Pizza Street. Don't do that. I would rather
eat all the chicken tender from the Sprit Center than what if Pizza Street made
a sprint centered chicken tenders Pizza Landing? Mmmm? What if they've got into
an agreement with Taco Bell and sold that? Yeah? That reminds me,
for no reason, in particular of Nick Saban's famous uh tin horn. I
think that's the kind of situation you'd find yourself in. So does this it's
called fart with extra reverb. That's horrible. I don't like thinking about that.
That is, that's what happens if you eat the chicken tender and tacobout
pizza at Pizza Street. At bat Flip punch Out, Well, Kevin McCuller
play another minute for the Jayhawks. A couple of questions about that here?
Yeah? Is that the only one about the color? Wow, that's surprising.
Yes, I think he plays within the next week. Yeah, he'll
he'll play again the season. If he doesn't play in the senior night game,
I'm starting to get a little concern there, all right. Two questions
about next year's roster here at bat Flip punch Out. Who are we going
to fix this roster if we run it back with one kJ and Hunter?
And from Preston Skirtsik, what are your early predictions on who comes back and
who doesn't? And from Cope Fraud stay or go next year? Digginson Adams
to one A Marco Jamuri. Okay, let's do this. Uh we all
think for if he's gonna leave right? Uh? Yeah, yes, agreed,
Hunter Dickinson is gonna stay, right, I would bet so. Dewan
Harris is gonna be here. Yes, yes, Jamari McDowell's gonna be here.
Maybe that's maybe DeMarco l Marco Jackson, I think is more likely to
leave than stay. That's probably true. And let me see here kJ Adams,
that's the wild card. I think he stays, but I think his
role changes. Uh, yes, I think that's most likely. Here's the
thing. So we have now twice on this podcast, been through frustrating seasons
for Kansas basketball standards when everybody wanted the rosters blown up in nineteen and twenty
one, and Bill self kept most of those rosters intact. And look how
good they were in the next year. That the nineteen team, they're like,
this is never gonna work with these guys, and they were really good
in twenty and in twenty one it was oh, he said they needed more
athletes, and they just brought back Dave and Wilson and at Boji and look
how good they were. I think that this team next year, with a
lot of the same pieces, could be really, really good. Hunter Dickinson
is a great player, but they have to bring in shooters. You have
to bring in shooters. You can't hope that you're two They have two really
nice freshmen coming in. Those guys have to be able to shoot the ball.
I actually don't know what they grade out as at shooters and then hopefully
you hit on your transfer and it's not Nick Timberlake. But also like self
did get Dickinson and Timberlake, we're both forty percent three point shooters. He
went out and got two of those guys and Arteria Morris was gonna be better
too. You have to you have to get some shooters around Hunter Dickinson.
You cannot play the twenty ten offense with two bigs kJ being a big and
have Hunter Dickinson be effective. It's not gonna work. Yeah, not when
I don't want to shoot anything. Ever. Dwan Harris is one of those
guys at them myself make anything. Ever. Nick Timberlake is another at the
bell self won the championship two years ago because of the player like Remy Martin.
But the last two years Kansas hasn't had a player like him that can
create and make their own shots at the end of the game or the shot
clock. Why isn't Kansas targeting these type of players. The color has been
has been that the last two years he's been a clutch, end of game
shot clock player hasn't been as pretty, and people are remembering the last couple
of weeks of Remy and not the whole season. But Remy Martin was in
eighteen points a game, two time All Power League First Team player. Those
type of players don't just hit the free agency portal very much. And Kansas
has landed two of them. Yeah, yeah, and one of them was
terrific and the other one has been terrific, albeit not as shiny. So
yeah, I don't know. They Yes, if Remy Martin's grew on trees,
then this wouldn't be a problem, but Remy Martins don't grow on trees,
and so you're constantly looking for one they need. But what you're saying
with that is they need a guard that can score, not a wing,
not a big they need a guard that can score, right, Yes,
yeah, I do think there is something to be said for specifically a guard
that can be your takeover player. Yes, they have to have it.
Uh. The one is a great player and they can absolutely win a championship
with the one. Hunter is a great player and they can absolutely win a
championship with Hunter. And Kevin is a great player and you can absolutely win
a championship with Kevin. It's the other two. The other two positions are
your three on your four. They have to be able to shoot threes.
Furfey has been cold and the fore Man never shoots and Timberlake sucks. That
is why problem. If Furfey were to come back next year, which I
wouldn't recommend he do, but if he were to, that would be a
pretty sensational piece. Furfey should come back if he's not projected to be a
lottery pick. The difference between going from like eighteen to five is worth coming
back for another year. If he's a lottery pick, he should go.
If he's not, I think it's a conversation. Maybe. I think if
he's a first round pick, considering his expectations, he's gonna have a really
hard time staying. See I disagree with that. If he's like rejected to
go like twenty fourth, I think he comes back, and I think that's
a great decision. I would love him to come back regardless, obviously,
but we'll see. Yeah, Oh absolutely yeah. At show Me, Hawk
turns out losing at UCF West Virginia at k State and to BYU and Allen
really burn bite us in the you know what? Yup? And normally Kansas
does that like twice a year, right, they have two games that you're
like, huh, how they lose that? This year they had four.
That's the problem. Yeah, that's pretty good to put it. It's true.
I have a hopeful nugget for next year. Ad show me hawk Bill
self has only made the final four when it's in San Antonio or New Orleans,
and next year it's back in San Antonio. And if I go back
and has to be a two and an eight, that's true. Otherwise it's
just not very good. Or they run into Villanova, which if you remember
what happened there, they lost by five. Just kidding other Villanova. Uh,
Villanova's like the last team in in today's projected bracket. I don't know.
I can't wait for Kansas to get them into their ten seed. If
you have oh god, Dan, if you ever have any asks, gard
CBS okay. As a rule, if Kansas loses to Villanova and the tournament
again, Nick has to comeback. Is that fair? I'm only coming back
if Lannon come. If Landa wins, pick them, Landon, get to
work. Let's get to let's get to your next chance, all right,
So they go right after that fun loss, they now have a game where
they're gonna be an underdog. Number seven Kansas at number fifteen Baylor Saturday,
March second. Welcome to March, John Ross, scene's gonna be all jazz
hands all week. At noon, Baylor enters twenty eight or twenty and eight
overall and nine and six in the Big twelve. More l's than we're used
to seeing at this time in the year. For Scott Drew. The Bears
all about guards. Freshman Jacobe Walter is their best you have just fourteen points
a night and is the team's best finisher at the RAM. The point guard
is Brady j. Dennis also adds fourteen points and six assists. Jane Dunn
an elite three point reserve, while Langston Love is their best overall shooter,
though he's been in and out of the lineup recently with a leg industry injury.
Kansas wouldn't know anything about a guy being in and out of the lineup
with a leg injury, but another barrage of great shooters coming Kansas a way.
Great. Baylor's front court is what it usually is, long and athletic.
Their fore man is Jalen Bridges, who has taking a big leap for
this year to average ten points and shoot forty from three. Yeves Messiah is
the seven zero center, put in eleven and six while blocking a couple of
shots per game. Josh Uji Wanna. I can't do it with these names,
man, I just can't. Oigian Oigiuna? What is uh? Where
are we? Where's where's the name? I missed it? Oh? Oh
yeah, ojia Wuna yeah. And then the white guy at the game candidate,
this one's easy. Caleb Loner gets the reserve minutes. Baylor's a weird
team here. They are fifth nationally forty percent shooting threes, which immediately made
me want to do a mixture of and. But that number is just thirty
three percent. In conference play. They have not been outs good, which
makes sense. They're not playing Mississippi Valley State anymore. They're playing Houston.
They have an excellent offense centered around the fact that four of the five guys
on the court at any given time can shoot. They draw a lot of
contact. They pass really well, right there with Kansas for one of the
best passing teams in the country. And they pay out a good place,
they play at a good pace. Probably pay two Baylor, Scott Drew.
I'm sure there's money down there. The weaknesses include being below average. Yeah,
I Land, and I see you here. I'm totally totally not wanting
that. That sounds terrible. The weaknesses include being below average. Okay,
god, I what the notes say? Below average on the ass. I
have no idea what ASS means there. I'm assuming glass. I'm assuming you
took got gl They're not a good glass team. It's name. Okay,
Well, they're they're above average or below average in the ass, fouling a
good amount. They're they're prone to turning it over thanks to their fast pace,
and they that sentence just just freaking who even knows what it actually is
supposed to say? They've been vulnerable points. Okay, Well hundred gets in
sucked giant Ostrich eggs in the last second half against Baylor. So I do
want to say about how bad Baylor's into your defense has been. But yeah,
I think it's gonna matter. Hunter's gonna gonna get a technical foul whenever.
Baylor's just dying to get hot. This is Kansas's first trip to Baylor's
all new Foster Pavilion at Mark and Paula Hurd Court, as it has put
in all caps fairly enough. They are currently on a three game losing streak
in Waco, with their last win coming via Udoka as a Bookies Monster game
in twenty twenty. They haven't swipped the Bears since twenty nineteen. Nick,
do they do it this year? Oh? No, Kansas is gonna lose
back to back games. I'm gonna say Baylor eighty three Kansas seventy nine.
Just don't see it. My prediction rests on a very key thing maybe or
maybe not happening. So I am going to be a coward and make two
predictions because I think it is a different result if Kevin mccullar plays or not.
If mc can't make two predictions, well I'm going to. So I
did. But if Kevin mccullor does not play, Kansas loses, and if
he does, they win. I'll say that I think they win with mccullor.
I don't think that Baylor is as good as they have been and that
environment's just not very good and Kansas is due to win one down there.
But I just I can't get myself to trust them. Landon, I know
you got to make up pick them, So this is a good spot for
you to trust Bill self as an underdog, I am not one. He
picked both sides, that's fair. I am not going to pick Kansas to
win this game because I am a big proponent of Scott Drew and Kansas hasn't
played well on the road, and they haven't played well on the road down
there. But here's what I predict happens. I predict Kansas plays well and
loses a close one. Not you know the type of game it's gonna leave
you doing cartwheels, but I think they lose seventy four to seventy two,
and a game where we're sitting there going, you know what, the regular
season's almost over. They weren't gonna win this league anyway the last couple of
weeks. But that team that we saw that almost beat Baylor on the road
and was competitive, that team could win four games in the NCAA Tournament.
I think that's the kind of vibe that we get after this game. And
I trust Bill self, who usually does know the buttons to push in a
Scott Drew game. I think Kansas matches up well with Baylor. Wouldn't surprise
me if they won it, especially if a color plays. But yeah,
I think that Baylor wins by a bucket and we're sitting here feeling a lot
better despite the fact that they lost. Then we thought that we would.
Don't know, does that fair? Is that kind of a cowardly both sides
or does that make sense? No, that mean's less cowardly both sides than
I did, so I think yeah makes sense. Bill self said mcculler's practice
on Friday is gonna determine if he plays. Certainly sounds like he has a
chance to play, would be awesome. I pick him will be determined on
if he plays or not. So if mccullo does play, I pick Kansas
to win. If he sits, I picked him to lose. Baylor opens
minus five, which feels a little big for my liking. That's Kansas.
You can get Kansas as a five point underdog. That feels a little bit
too much for my liking. I think that I would trust. I think
I might trust Kansas in that spot. Also, Saint Mary's is up fifteen
on Pepperdine late first half Gonzaga Street. I believe it is over big twelve
games which Kansas could hold fifteen point leads. That's true. Hopefully they don't
pull a Jayhawks, because yeah, that means they're gonna lose big twelve games.
Oklahoma State at Texas in the Orange Bowl. But it's bad Longhorns.
But boy, here's where we trust them and they do something stupid. I
trust them more than Oklahoma State. Yeah. Number eight, Iowa State at
UCF. I will take the Knights. I think Iowa State is due to
lose a game. Row really, look at you all right, Yeah,
think they're due to lose one. I take Iowa State. Texas Tech at
West Virginia Red Raiders are bleeding a little bit. Do they win on the
road. Nope? Yeah, I don't think they do either. Oh Man,
Texas Tech. So Nick with a good pick and week is pretty much
going to bury this thing. It might already be buried, but Landon,
you have the opportunity here if enough things go right, and we'll see Kansas
State at Cincinnati. I am not picking Jerome Tang on the road. I'll
take the bear Cats. Uh yeah, I don't know if I don't know
if I can either. But Kase State both these teams are playing with some
amount of desperation because they're both bubble ish. Cincinnati's not even close right now,
that's that is true. They do have ten conference losses. I guess
give me the Wildcats. Give me the Wildcats. Are you picking case State,
Nick? Yes? All right? Interesting. Number one Houston at Oklahoma.
I do not care. I would entertain Houston losing this game to about
a dozen Big twelve opponents, but Porter Moser's lousy ass is not one of
them. Houston by twenty. Yeah, Houston's winning. I don't know,
guys, the United Supermarkets Arena or I botched the joke. I don't know,
guys. That Lloyd Noble Center might offer some resistance. It might be
really loud down there to sue. You could hear all thirteen people that are
in the attendance. They cheer like a champion, just like it says to
do TCU at BYU. I will. I want to take TCU because I
think BYU is gonna fall flat. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm
gonna take them. I play there at home. I'll take the Cougars.
But I like that strategy. Other games. Number five Marquette at number twelve
Creighton. Yukon didn't win at Creighton. Marquette won't either. Give me the
Blue Jays Eagles Creighton. Number thirteen Illinois at Wisconsin. I will take the
upset here. I think Wisconsin wins and saves their tournament hopes. Yeah.
Same Number four Tennessee at number fourteen Alabama, battle of the leaders in the
SEC. I will take oh oh. This is my audition for you,
Rick. I'll bet on Rick Barnes here in a March game. Give me
the gimme the Bolls. I am to all miss at Missouri. This is
the chance for the Tigers, who are giving a forty eight percent chance to
win this game for ESPN. Is the the conference win? It is?
It is we are MISSOI yeah, I agree, I think it is due.
Yeah, I'll go to Missouri. Whatever Lanta you want to switch.
You have a chance to be the only one that doesn't pick an oh to
fifteen team. I've disagreed with Nick quite a bit, I think so far.
So all right, we're I'll pick in Missouri. Number Nobody deserves to
lose to Missouri, like Chris Beard. That that's that's that's the guy who
deserves it. The most and number twenty three, Gonzaga at number seventeen.
Saint Mary's I will take in Zaga on the roads. In a statement,
dub Saint Mary's is probably gonna have that league wrapped. They're up forty two
to twenty right now on the Gonzaga arrivals. I don't I don't think they're
gonna want to let Kenzaga win that Gonzaga's gotta win to get in the tournament.
I'm gonna say they do. But yeah, it's it won't mean anything
in the league race. Look at us go all right next Sunday at some
point, right, I would guess that's what we normally do. Could be,
could be, could be not. There's only two regular season games left
after this, and then the Jayhawks are getting ready to play a bunch of
postseason games. Right, that's absolutely happening. They're gonna play definitely more than
two, right right, right, of course, I can't see what's coming
up behind me. I don't please, Yeah, that Canada. How many
posts? If I gave you right now over under four and a half postseason
games, Kansas Plates, what are you taking? You said? Four and
a half? Yeah, Nick, what do you think over under four and
a half. Oh, because they're probably that's at least at least that is,
at least two wins in each of the tournaments in all likelihood, I
think I would max them at six none of the Big twelve tournament and all
in the Big Dance. If yeah, that'd be great. I'll take that.
What's the if they lose out forfeit the NCAA or the Big twelve tournament
works. What's their seed? What's their seed if they lose out? The
high four? Probably probably the best four seed. Wow, you think that
they're a four if they lose out? I mean it's only four more games.
There'd be three more games, are now Baylor? Okay? Yeah,
you're right. I think they're gonna be a I think they're gonna wind up
as a two seed. I do. I think they're gonna make a run
in the Big twelve tournament. I'd maybe we'll see. Let's take a look
right now. What is so Big twelve bracket generator? Please release me from
this. Okay, So if Kansas, geez, if Kansas loses the Baylor
and Houston, they could be as low as a six seed. Where they
because they they could be behind BYU and Texas Tech, who both beat them
once. Uh. One of the thing, get that b y U nudge
of losing but going up in the net. That's true. It could barely
barely help them in that in that sense. All right, well that's our
show. We will be back on UH on Monday for you after they after
they played Balor. I'm Ryan Landred, this is inside the paint. I
am a guy that could play for b YU. I just want to eat
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until he eats Magianos. Yeah, that's one of Johnson County reason to go.
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my favorite appropriate drink to have it in sit down italian place. Yeah,
but yeah, it was very good with all the pasta that you can stuff
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extra six dollars and get a second equally big pasta portion to take home in
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well then you're eating pasta for a week. But yeah, it's it's quite
good, all right, Jo Jayhawks. I guess the