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I on the Ball Breaking news on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, so
Mike did give up a couple of my

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breaking news items of at the top
talking about this, excuse me, the

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situation with Sean Payton where he he
um again. He said he was sorry

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he said what he said. He's
sorry that he said it, but he's

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not sorry of what he said when
he said that intent that it was the

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worst coaching job in the history of
the fell at Denver last year. That

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sounds like Sean pay did you get
did you get to know him? Coach

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I worked with with Jim Haslet,
okay and Joe Horn. Yeah. Yeah.

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Aaron Brooks yeah, that that group. Yeah, so I didn't I

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didn't have the any of the benefits
of the great teams. Yeah, yeah,

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but interesting things. So now he's
got it. He's got to coach

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this team. And I'm sure and
I guess uh Nathaniel Hacket his own assistant

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with the Jets. He is,
and the and the Jets and the and

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the Broncos were scheduled to play each
other this week five. Yeah, so

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we'll see if well. But the
funny part is is that Hackett was one

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of the guys instrumental in the Aaron
Rodgers deal because Hackett worked with Rogers with

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the Packers. Yeah, and and
then had a great relationship with Rogers.

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Yeah. So it's just funny and
truthfully, some guys are made to be

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assistant coaches. That's exactly what I
was gonna say just now minutes. I

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was gonna say, some guys are
made to be head coaches. No,

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you know, Mike Stoops, right, And he's the one that comes to

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mind, because he just was not
He didn't want to be a head he

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didn't want to do the things the
head coach. One great assistant coach.

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He's still coaching right at various places
he's been at number of places. He

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just didn't seem to me like he
wanted to be the head coach, right,

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you know, And and so he's
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about that. Um, all right, we did mention Joe Burrow who's carted

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off the field yesterday. He's got
a right calf string. Um, he's

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gonna be out several weeks. They
don't know if he's gonna be it,

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you know, be out beyond the
start of the regular season. But he's

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you know, does he even need
to practice? Right? And I always

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get an argument with people about this
who get all excited about training camp games,

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you know, the exhibition games they
mean nothing. And then I mean,

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the starting quarterback will play a series
and then they go look at everybody

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else, well, and it's the
third team players playing against a third team

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visiting players. Though, is there
a jewel that comes out of it?

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Yes? Yeah. The worst part
is that season. You know, when

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I was with the Saints, you
force your season ticket holders to buy the

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ticket. Now it's only cost the
same it does, but now it's only

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three exhibition games as opposed to four. And look, I like turning on

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the TV and seeing an exhibition game
on and seeing the uniforms and they're playing

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foot better watch the quarter But but
I don't. But I don't sit on

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and watch the games. Right,
I'll stop on the channel. I'll see

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who's playing and if if one of
the starting quarterbacks is playing or something like

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that, I'll watch it for a
minute. But the minute throut of the

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game. You mean you don't make
any betsie exhibit, I don't know.

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I'm kidding. I know you know
what I've I've been. I'm a degenerate.

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I bet on I bet on some
really shady things that you'd go,

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what the hell, But I've not
bet on exhibition. No, it's it's

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and there's a purpose. The purpose
is to see some players in an environment,

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to test some guys. But if
you're a head coach, you are

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sitting on that sideline praying, yeah, you guys, none of your guys

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don't get hurt exactly, just just
the way that you know the college coaches

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are when they have a scrimmage.
Right, all right, here's an interesting

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one. So uh um, I
think it's it's pronounced Tauliah Tongua viola,

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brother of of of the other two
apparently he's a quarterback in Maryland. He

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told a reporter yesterday that he was
offered one point five million dollars who from

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an SEC team to transfer in the
offseason. Well, there's somebody in Alabama

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that has some connections to that family. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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and that's the assumption, right right, there was somebody from Alabama. But

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they don't Alabama doesn't need to bring
in well they don't have a quarterback this

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year, but still to bring in
a guy for a million dollars. No,

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someone, look, if you've got
if you've got a booster that says,

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look, you go get this quarterback, I'll give you the million and

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a half. Are you gonna say
no? Thanks? How much should arch

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manning it? There's been no word
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word on that is that he didn't
he didn't get a lot because he didn't

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ask for a lot, because he's
got a lot. But he also is

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not gonna take it if he's not
starting. Did you hear that whatever the

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money was, Oh, is that
I hadn't heard any of that, so

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um, you know, but he
and and that's what they and this is

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this is the and here's here's the
quote from from Tongue of Biola. It

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can be eye opening. But I
think for my situation, if I was

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in a different situation where maybe I
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or maybe my parents, it'd be
a different situation. It would be hard

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for me to go to another place
and not be happy but have all the

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money in the world. I'd rather
be at a place where maybe I don't

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have as much, but I'm happy
and I'm here to work. Interesting,

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right, interesting thing million and a
half though you know him, he just

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came out and said he didn't say
who. He just said, I got

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I got that, I got that
off and stuff. I'm not a big

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fan of the n I N I
oh no. By the way, I'm

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glad for players receiving pay, but
but what it does, there's got to

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be better ways of controlling Well,
you know, we had we we keep

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referencing. We had an interesting conversation
with Jenny Dalton, remember the songball player

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here to Arizona, and you know
she's a she's a works for ESPN.

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She said this, this has just
got an all twisted. It's you know,

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nil isn't what NIL was meant to
be. You know, and I

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always meant to be. You come
to a university, if you if there's

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some value to your name, image
and likeness, you can get value for

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that, get some money live off
of that. It's a pay it's become

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a pay for play thing. It's
it's it's not it's not you know it.

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Do you have value in your name, image and likeness. It's like,

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we have a position that we need
to fill and we have a million

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dollars to fill it with. Will
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and then it's become that it said, it's all wrong. Well, if

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anybody wants to give to you,
do you have a basketball guys? I

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don't know, if you know,
Adam Lazarus might a couple of times.

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Yeah they do. You know Arizona
Assists, they've done some great things.

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They're actually gonna be involved with us
for the fantasy camp, are they?

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But you know it's it's basketball specific, right, and you know people I

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you know, I put my one
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but they give it to the play
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friends of Wilbur and Wilma, right, and now they've created a football specific

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a collective that's a kind of a
subset of the the umbrella want, right,

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and then they have and you know, the question we had with him

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was, you know, are you
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Is there enough money to go around? And he basically said there is.

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Well, I've always wondered, how
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somebody is giving I'll make it up
fifty thousand dollars to a collective to an

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nil they wouldn't have given to the
program from a sponsorship or a foundation,

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standpoint right. And that was the
question that that's the question that the running

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question that Steve and I have about
all of this. It's like, this

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is twos on Arizona. There's money
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so much money. It's not an
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So yeah, you're right, if
if you're if you're If you have fifty

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thousand dollars to give, and now
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the university to support the program as
a whole, what kind of a what

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kind of a strain is that putting
on the athletic department? Which is a

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question that we want to ask somebody
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say, Okay, since NIL has
these collectives have been formed, are you

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still getting the same level of donor
money and stuff like that? And they,

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you know, I don't know what
they'll say. They might say,

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oh, yeah, we're still getting
ours and they're getting theirs. Have you

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ever had anybody from IMGN Joe Mueller? No, he he told me the

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other day. I hope I'm not
speaking on school. I said, well,

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how is the NIL you know,
everything hurting you, you know,

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and stuff like that. He said. The University of Arizona from a sponsorship

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level, and I amg by the
way they sell sponsorships and then they give

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a they make a payment to the
university, but they control it all.

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He said, their second only to
Oregon in the pack twelve. Wow as

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far as generating revenue. And so
you can say a little tuson Arizona.

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Well, somebody's doing pretty good combodies. Yeah, And and that's a might

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being the case. And because you
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you got Washington over there. Well
there's also the Seahawks, right,

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you know the baseball you know,
baseball there's plenty of place in Phoenix.

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Yeah, and up in Phoenix,
right yeah, so yeah, no,

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I'm that kind of doesn't surprise me
that Oregon in Arizona at the top of

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that list because their college house.
Well but but Oregon actually as somebody that

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they got a guy that Phil Knight. That's oh yeah, that guy,

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that guy. All right, Um, this came across this a little bit

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ago, but uh, I hadn't
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I guess it's Wager. W A
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had been hired as a tight ends
coach right out of high school by Matt

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rule uh At at Nebraska, has
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coach. His statement or you know
this, Yeah, his statement is,

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it is with great remorse that I
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coach at the University of University of
Nebraska. Earlier this week, I received

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a citation for a driving offense that
I regret immensely. You think he was

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five miles over the level I I. You know, we could throw out

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a bunch of things at that site. That offense might have been, but

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whatever it is, it was serious
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So it wasn't a speeding ticket for
going turn over the speed limit, right,

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it was something much more serious than
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he's resigned from UM from Nebraska.
So so they probably didn't need to have

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have happened to them. And then, uh, are you any kind of

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a swifty No? I saw the
size make effect in Seattle. According to

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The New York Times, the Taylor
Swift concert in downtown Seattle last weekend shook

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the ground so hard it caused a
quote unquote swift quake registrate signals on the

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nearby seismometer, roughly equivalent to a
magnitude two point three earthquakes. I've talked

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to people who going to a concert. It's not me. Yeah, she

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puts on a three hour concert.
Yeah, in the rain. Yeah,

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she's done it in the in a
howling storm. It's a it's a hell

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of a show. I had a
lot of money. Yeah, I've seen

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views from you know, seats and
I'm like, how do you how do

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you watch this time? But I, you know, I get it.

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I went to uh, my wife
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right, I got her. I
got tickets to see you two at

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the Cardinal Stadium and the stage was
at one end and we were at the

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other end, and they were so
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We heard the music because the speakers
on the screens. But you see,

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you know, I've known a few
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It's just and then I've seen a
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Well, my best YouTube memory is
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Yeah, and you know that that
song about what's that about New Orleans?

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And yeah, and and that they
bano just they put some words in

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about the Saints in New Orleans and
it was it was goosebumps. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
I saw a funny TikTok video. It

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was as somebody going to the concert. By her voice, I thought she

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was maybe sixteen, seventeen, eighteen
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a panoramic shot of the stadium and
she's all the way at the top right

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and a panoram and maybe she set
this up or maybe she really believed this,

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but she said, I can believe
that this many people would want to

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come and see a Taylor Swift concert, But I just can't believe that this

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man people who would want to come
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true. Yep, I guess it's
in the football Well they do, they

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do, and they fill the stadium
up for football games. Wow. What's

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the average price for Rose concerts?
There are a lot three four hundred dollars.

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Yeah, more than yeah, six
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I I had curiosity one day.
I went on like Ticketmaster and the cheapest

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ticket I saw was like six hundred
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want to know, you're really well
when they were at Cardinal Stadium, that

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you you do TikTok. I do. I do not do TikTok. I'm

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fascinated by it. It's and well
that last time, so much stuff is

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on It's like Twitter. There's a
lot of stuff on there that I really

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don't care to see. There's a
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and I watched stuff. So all
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We're gonna come back. We're gonna
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Jake's a former linebacker at Arizona, so

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from Arizona. Linebacker in Arizona,
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since we last talk, man,
a whole lot of stuff has happened

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over with the with the Pac twelve
and the Big twelve. Just give us

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your initial thoughts on Colorado leaving for
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impacts Arizona. Well, first thing, I don't know how you can go

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from Larry Scott and get worse like
it just sounds like this guy is even

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worse than Larry Scott wasn't. That's
pretty tough to do. I don't know

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how he didn't realize that not having
numbers was going to negatively affect a couple

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of the folks that have been thinking
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honestly, I think Colorado leaving I
don't really think that's going to move the

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needle unless you know, Dion stays
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national prominencing, gets a couple of
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classes, and they're competing at the
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Oklahoma and Texas left, I don't
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know, tough to do. You
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Baylor in Kansas State, but you're
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you have winning it or at least
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every year. So yeah, they
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to get a couple of good classes
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suit. I kind of think this
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to be honest with you, because
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and you have a lot of ads
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don't necessarily care about sports that much, and you're trying to compete in the

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space of sports, then you need
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But that's kind of my take on
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has been kind of a dumpster fire
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presidents of the PAC twall for the
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away with some of the things that
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guy can't even pronounce his name.
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done a good job. Yeah,
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you're you're hearing more than anything is
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likes him. Um looked like he
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times. Whether it was the USC
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million dollars that they oh Comcast thing, this alliance handshake agreement that they had

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with the ACC and the Big ten, and a few months later the Big

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ten turns around and sucksy USC and
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with Colorado. You know, as
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a nice guy, you got you
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not done a great job. No, And like I said, it might

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have just been you know, too
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once again, you got to kind
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of the presidents of the Pack twelve. You know, they are kind of

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letting this thing go the way it
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sports, you know, if you're
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other programs, then I mean,
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sports, and they're just going to
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I mean it's like, what can
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schools that really want to get out
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compete in sports space. I think
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We have a president that actually enjoys
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You know, obviously it's a revenue
generator, and you know, we'll

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go from here. But one of
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is, you know, and I
keep seeing folks. For me, if

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you're talking about their potential moved to
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be if we went to the Big
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Mountain West. I think that would
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in quite a while. And um, you know, I know that they're

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they're athletics director, and their presidents
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So hey, I'm all for it. Well there, you know,

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and again that's been a bit of
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there's some people saying, well,
you know, the Board of Regents is

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never going to let Arizona go without
a SU. Well, that's not true

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anymore. And Bobby Robins is publicly
said, we're not locked at you know,

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we're not tied to SU. We're
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If they want to come along,
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him. And I think that that's
a that's a good thing. How how

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confident are you in in Robin's obviously
because he's the president, but also in

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Dave Hkey and and and ending up
in the right place. You know,

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I'm pretty confident, to be one
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that they've done a pretty damn good
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space over the past couple of years. I mean, you look at the

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hires that they've brought in, obviously
for basketball and football, they've done an

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incredible job. And Robins and Jekier. You know, obviously he key if

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he's the athletic director. But Robins
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here. So yes, um,
you know, I think they're just gonna

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con need to want to move in
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I said that, you know,
with the exception of the someone move,

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everything that they've done since then,
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So you know, we'll see where
it goes. But I think we're

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going to be in the Big twelve, and I think that basketball wise,

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obviously, it's going to make the
best basketball league in the country that much

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stronger. You know, we're gonna
get to have you know, home in

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a ways of Kansas and Baylor in
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I can't wait to watch those games. It's gonna be fun. It's

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gonna be nice to see Arizona visiting
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going to an organ state or a
Washington state that's got maybe less than a

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thousand people in the stands. So
it's just going to improve everything and just

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having that national prominence, you know, actually having you know, some stability,

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knowing that you're gonna be on television, knowing that you're in a conference

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that actually wants to keep up with
sports in certain ways, and you're gonna

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be on television and it's just gonna
help all the other programs. So I'm

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looking forward to it. You were
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Run and they're played Oklahoma State here, right, Yeah, So I mean

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you remember that atmosphere. Yeah,
absolutely, I mean that was just you

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know again there there there have been
a few teams that have come here that

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you just go, Holy hell,
these people like they care about their football,

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right Iowa that that you know,
that game with Eyowa there was just

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a complete sell out. Um,
we had Ohio State here, you know,

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late in the tony years. You
know that that Oklahoma State game sticks

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out to me as one. Um. You know, we've had those teams

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here. We've had Texas Tech here
a couple of times. We had Houston

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here. I mean, those things, they they they they up the end

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here. I think they really do. You're right, because you know,

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you go to a you go to
a you know, a Washington State basketball

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game, you might as well go
to a high school basketball game, right

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right. There's there's something about the
Midwest and the South where even if you're

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not very good, they still care. They're still gonna show up. You

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know. It's it's something about the
uh, just the atmosphere year that brings

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a little bit more out of the
athlete. They understand that and they want

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to see their team win. You
know, it's like over here on the

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West Coast for whatever reason, and
you know, the West Coast has obviously

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gotten a little bit of a reputation, reputation for being um front runners here

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and then in a few years you
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anyway, And next thing, you
know, if your team is good,

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you have an awesome crowd. If
it's pack twelve after dark and you're playing

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another ranked team, you have the
chance we're half of your stadium entees.

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Because you know, Greek life wants
to go in party and people want to

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put their kids to bed at a
certain point you go into the middest of

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the style. You know they're playing, you know, before bedtime. Obviously

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they have people that stayed for the
games. Even when we went to Toledo,

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my software like, I mean,
their stadium only holds like probably fifteen

407
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thousand people, and that thing was
loud. I mean, it's Toledo.

408
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It's not in an Ohio State.
It's not in Oklahoma State. When we

409
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went to Oklahoma State my junior or
the year I had to sit out.

410
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I mean, shoot, they were
obviously nationally ranked. But you an Arizona

411
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team from the West coast, you
know, from two hund Arizona shows up

412
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and it's still loud as all help. So it's a little bit different,

413
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and I think that I think that'll
kind of help us out. All right,

414
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So practice starts next week. Things
get going. First of all,

415
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tell me, you know the practice
starts I think on Wednesday. So let's

416
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say a week ahead of time.
As you were getting ready for practice,

417
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what's going through your mind? What
are you doing to be ready to hit

418
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the field in a week? I
mean you're just staying staying up to dawn

419
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on your place. You got to
know all the nuances. They're going to

420
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kind of throw the basics at you
the first week or so. But then

421
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you know, just get better at
your job. Obviously, you got to

422
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stay in shape, make sure that
you keep up with your nutrition, watch

423
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a lot of film, and just
stel ready. I mean a couple of

424
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days before camp I wouldn't do any
crazy thing physical because you're gonna get your

425
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buttonhomped. In camp, They're gonna
they're gonna take a lot out of you

426
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the first couple of weeks, and
then getting closer to the game, they're

427
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going to kind of dial things back. But just stay in shape, to

428
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keep nutrition up, stay in the
stay in the weight room, and then

429
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dial it back a little bit right
before so that you have to manage you

430
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to go out the first day and
get these rolling. Hey Jake, how

431
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would you compare I don't know how
close you are to the UFA currently to

432
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coaching and all that, the environment
and the current staff, coaching staff,

433
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weight room, training practice schedule compared
to past regimes. Is that something you

434
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can compare not to not really.
What I'll tell you is both coaching staff

435
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that I was under they were completely
different, but there were a lot of

436
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things that were the same. You
know, under the Stoops years, we

437
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were up, you know, super
early, and we were back in the

438
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dorms, you know, super super
late. When it came to rich run,

439
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.000
he wanted you to sleep in,
be able to take a little bit

440
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of time off. But when it
was football, you're gonna get five or

441
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.799
six straight hours just football on your
face and then go home and you know,

442
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hang out and do your thing.
And both coaching staffs were awesome.

443
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.880
You know, the first coaching staff
obviously more defense oriented, uh, you

444
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.240
know, entirety, and then the
second staff, I think it was a

445
00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:08.759
little bit more offensive borriented, to
be honest with you. They just completely

446
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.400
different systems. Um, you know
the weight room guys. The first one

447
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.960
it was more about mass. The
second one, I mean we ran until

448
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.200
we threw up almost every day.
So they were both really good. Just

449
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.680
you know, whatever tendencies you tourd
to, you know that you tend to

450
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lean towards, I guess is the
best way to go about it, whatever

451
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.720
offense it is. Or you know, if you want to be a slowdown,

452
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.559
kind of grinded out football team,
you want to get bigger. Um,

453
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.279
you know, it kind of starts
with what your fundamentals are and what

454
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you for your game plan is.
So what what what would be the one

455
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or two pieces of advice you'd give
to an incoming, brand new freshman guy

456
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.599
who was in high school last year. Maybe highly recruited, maybe not,

457
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.519
but either way, in the you
know, you're you're you're in the recruiting

458
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.279
class. Um. Some different guys
have different expectations. But what's the thing

459
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.359
that you would tell them? Here's
the thing you need to know about what

460
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.119
this is going to be like when
practice star next week? Shut up,

461
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.680
listen you can and if the coach
isn't yelling at you, that me and

462
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:07.839
he doesn't care about you. So
if he's yelling at you, it's a

463
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.680
good thing. Okay, there you
go. Did you get yelled at a

464
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:17.039
lot? Absolutely? Who yelled us
here? Especially that that just means if

465
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.720
they care about you. Yeah,
you know. Coach Cass still used to

466
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.839
always tell us, hey, listen, if I'm not getting in your face

467
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.240
and yelling at you, that means
I've giving up on it. You don't

468
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.279
want that. If you hear me
quiet, or if you don't hear me

469
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.480
at all, that's when you need
to worry. If I'm getting in your

470
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.359
face, I know that you have
more than you can give me. Is

471
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:34.359
either one they yelled at you the
most? Uh? Yeah, probably because

472
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:37.759
he was my position coach or two
years and and Coach Kiss didn't really yell

473
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.480
a lot, you know, so
uh, Coach Cass still he was more

474
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.279
of the old school coach, obviously
being at West Virginia for a few years,

475
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.119
so you could probably pick that up. Yeah, were you Were you

476
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.440
excited about it or were you like
nervous about it? What were you?

477
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.000
What we as far as that goes, What were you? What was on

478
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.480
your mind? You know, going
into it like that, Well, I

479
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.279
was in the I sap in my
life. Um, you know, I

480
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.480
legitimately, like you know, I
couldn't run for crap my senior year,

481
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.559
Like my body just started to break
down. But going into it, I

482
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.559
was faster than I've ever been.
Um, you know, I'd boomed down

483
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:15.720
to about one I'm like to win. Um, I mean I was in

484
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.160
the best shape of my life.
So I was ready to go, you

485
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:19.400
know, and I had been doing
a bunch of other stuff on the side,

486
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.000
so it was you know, I
was excited to kind of go out

487
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.599
and you know, show what I
can do. And my my goal was

488
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.880
to play freshman year, and I
was able to play special teams and so

489
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:30.920
you know, I was able to
accomplish that goal. And then uh,

490
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.839
obviously I wanted to get into two
deep. We had four senior linebackers that

491
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.480
year, so you know, I
wasn't going to crack the rotation, but

492
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.240
um, you know, I was
going to set myself up to being the

493
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.920
too deep to start the next year, and I was able to accomplish that.

494
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.720
What was there a welcome to college
football moment for you where either you

495
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.240
got you got your skull crushed,
or somebody said something to you, or

496
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.279
you realized how serious it was.
I mean, what was that? Was

497
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.640
there a moment like that early on
or when did that come about? I

498
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.400
think the first time that came about
was when we started. You know,

499
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.880
we put on paths and we were
in the middle of camp going into our

500
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.000
first our first game, and you
guys remember a big dude by the name

501
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.160
of Von Dotti. Yeah. Yeah. We had to do inside run and

502
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.079
he was the guard that polls and
I had to go down and I had

503
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.039
to set the edge and I had
to lean back into him in wrong arm

504
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.920
him and crack him. And so
I had a three hundred and fifty pound

505
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.680
guy running at full speed multiple times
a day, just basically going head to

506
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.480
head with him. And you know, at the end of those first few

507
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.000
days, because I'm not used to
hitting, uh, you know, an

508
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.920
athletic six five three hundred and fifty
pound guy that's actually agile and they can

509
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.680
move. I'm not used to,
you know, hitting a target like that,

510
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:42.279
so you know, I had a
headache for the first month. Well

511
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.880
how did you do? The important
question? I know, what, how

512
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.839
did you do against them? Oh? I was able to stop him,

513
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.240
but there are a couple of times
where he almost bent my you know,

514
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.799
you know what backwards it was.
It was tough, I mean, and

515
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.759
once again it was twos against one. So I'm running twos and I'm going

516
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.039
again. It's our biggest and strongest
winneman every single play. So you know,

517
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.599
I was able to kind of keep
my feet on the ground most of

518
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.279
the time, but a couple of
times, you know, you watch film,

519
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.839
and just because he's so much bigger
than me, like you know,

520
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.880
from my waist up, it started
to kind of bend. And it's just

521
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:16.000
one of those things where I had
to kind of hang on for dear life

522
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.240
so I could set the edge and
we could make a play. Wow,

523
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.839
man, oh man, I don't
know, man, And you did that

524
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.079
for five years, so holy hell. All right, Jake, tell us

525
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a little bit about Arizona Health Insider. Yeah, guys, the best life

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six eight sixty six. Other than
that, bear down, all right,

539
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Jake, It's almost football season,
man. We're getting there. Yeah,

540
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.679
we're getting there. I'm gonna make
it to a couple of games this year.

541
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All right, sounds great? Okay, Jake, thanks a much.

542
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I have a great weekend. All
right, see you guys. All right,

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the Jake Fisher from Arizona linebacker played
under both Mike Stoops and h and

544
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Rich Rod, so he's got he's
got some insight for us. He's really

545
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good at that swell and he was
just saying, I mean, how are

546
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just getting pounded in his early years? He if you remember, early in

547
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the conversation he said his body was
broken down. Yeah, in his senior

548
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year. Yeah, my senior year. Right, it was all right,

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we'll take our break, we'll come
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he sat in for me when I
was out last Friday. He was

610
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.199
He sat in that chair last week. We had Andy as one of our

611
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.880
coaches. Yeah. For this year's
upcoming little hols and fantasy basketball. Yeah,

612
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.400
well we'll talk basketball with Andy all
the time. When the good and

613
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.679
one of the good guys in town. And you know, and look,

614
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.639
you've been here how many years since
eighty seven nine? You know, I'm

615
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.880
a native born here, if I
always lived here. I love the guys

616
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.719
that people that come here and stay
right. So many of these athletes you

617
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.559
have a ath right who have done
that you know, you you know they

618
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:40.199
come to Matt Muellbach, Right,
you mentioned him coming to who comes and

619
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:43.639
does the basketball camp, and some
of those other guys, you know,

620
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:45.239
Reggie Geary, who's decide you know, who lives here. And these guys,

621
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:50.639
Brandon Sanders is here, right,
all these guys who came here to

622
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.800
go to school to play a sport
but then came back or they've stayed.

623
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.400
Ricky and Lamont and all those guys. See soul, you know, doesn't

624
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:05.800
count that I was. I snuck
away for four and a half years.

625
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.559
Well you know you needed a job, right, Okay, but you're back

626
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:14.440
right. And I told my wife
when we went to the Saints, when

627
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.400
I fully vested in the NFL pension, Yeah, we're going back to two

628
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:20.679
cents. Yeah. I mean,
you're from Chicago, right right in the

629
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.440
Chicago area, and you're here and
you've stayed here. Yeah, Well let

630
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.199
me ask why. It's just a
great place to live. I mean,

631
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.840
great people, I mean, and
I have a different experience having run the

632
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.400
baseball team. You even get to
know more people that you wouldn't as the

633
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.280
guy who's working for Farmers Insurance,
right, And so I I just loved

634
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:44.440
it. I loved being around the
fans. I love being around the sports,

635
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:47.239
and it just it was home.
I mean, you know, my

636
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.639
wife and I are heavily involved in
charity stuff in the community, and you

637
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.559
know, we'll do anything we can
to give back. And that's really cool.

638
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.679
I mean, you raise your son
here right right, you know,

639
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.599
now you're a grandfather. Yep.
One in the and it's only one and

640
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:04.920
done. That's that hell, one
and done. Yeah, one and done.

641
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.519
Diego's four years old. Just celebrated
his fourth birthday. But that's you

642
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.519
know, and you know, my
son just played the Foothills. Yeah,

643
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.280
actually played in the Cannybe Little League, So good luck. Can you state

644
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.639
champions? They should have been in
our breaking news. Yeah. And my

645
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.519
wife and I actually made a donation
to help and travel yeah. Uh so

646
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.880
no, So it's it's it's exciting. There's just so many good things that

647
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.639
happened there, except for the days
when you have thirty consecutive days of one

648
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.440
hundred Gray greater, but you know
what the worst another pace. I'll tell

649
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.199
you what. It was hotter over
the weekend in Dallas, and it's been

650
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.679
I lived in New Orleans for five
years. Yeah. Yeah, and Jackson,

651
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:46.199
Mississippi. Yeah, I'll take I'll
take our one hundred and five hundred

652
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.559
and eight. But you know,
I quasi retired except for some projects I

653
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.159
take on and I work out of
the house and the air conditioning works really,

654
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.280
oh, it does, it does. So we were talking about the

655
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.039
Ludelson Fantasy Camp coming up. I
can give me the dates on that again.

656
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:07.360
It's gonna be the twenty fourth of
August through the twenty seventh, Okay,

657
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.159
all right, And people can still
sign up going to going to the

658
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.719
website for the Facebook Paulson Fantasy Camp
dot com. Okay, and you can

659
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.639
still sign up for that. Trying
to get about thirty six thirty six guys,

660
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.440
we'll get to it. You said, yeah, you said you got

661
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.159
about seventy five percent. Keep coming
back, right, Obviously it's something good

662
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.320
for those guys. Well, Don
treng Gali. I don't know if you've

663
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.719
ever met Don. He's with Sporting
Chants, done a lot of things,

664
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:37.920
played basketball with him a lot.
His Sporting Chance board of directors. Uh,

665
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.159
they got together and they've added four
new h people in the camp and

666
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.559
we do it as Sporting Chance that
they take great care so people all know

667
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:52.000
what Sporting Chances basketball volleyball, all
kinds of indoor sports. And it's great,

668
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.119
great facility up on the Choya and
just off for rivers off of river.

669
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:00.079
Yeah, as you know with my
kids in volleyball and basketball, if

670
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:01.840
we did win a lot of right, it's a great facility, right,

671
00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:07.280
a great facility all right. And
then uh later you've got the Mexican Baseball

672
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.800
Yes to mister president of the Mexican
Baseball tell us what's going on with that?

673
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.079
This is year twelve twelve. Yeah, we started when my partner,

674
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.960
Francisco Gamez, came to me with
an idea. I was running the Tucson

675
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:25.079
Padres in twenty eleven and he said, well, I cold call me.

676
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.920
He said, I think this would
be something really good for Tucson. The

677
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:35.840
Mexican Winter League is major League Baseball
in Mexico, and and I think it'd

678
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.400
be good for them to come to
the States and train. Well, here

679
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.440
we are here twelve. I said. The only way we'll do it is

680
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.960
one stipulation. And I went on
YouTube. I looked out it's not the

681
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.079
way we did Triple A baseball.
Yeah, it's a party. I mean

682
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.440
the word fiesta hits our event.
And and I said if we do it

683
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.840
the way they do it in Mexico, I'm in. If we do it

684
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.639
the way we did the tucsonon Padres
or the Toros, I'm out yeah and

685
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.760
oh no, and he his face
lit up, and it's it's crazy.

686
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.639
I mean, we have music all
the time, and the only time the

687
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.639
music stops is when the picture goes
in the stretch. Yeah, it's so

688
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.199
funny. When the U of A
and they're coming back again this year,

689
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.679
don't play the second game on Thursday
against Aramocio, the U of A baseball

690
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.199
team and Chip Hale said this,
Jay Johnson had both said this. They

691
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.760
said, our players love it.
They want to come back every year.

692
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.360
I said, well, does does
the music bother him? Yeah? The

693
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.400
first time they come to bat,
Yeah, you know, and the first

694
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.000
the first time they're doing it.
But now it's just they just love the

695
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.039
party and they and they look forward
to coming back. Now it is a

696
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:45.360
little strange for for those senior U
of A baseball fans. Oh my god,

697
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:51.159
turn the music down. You're killing
me. But we'll bring in teams

698
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.519
Aermo Ceo over we go in MEXICALI
h teams like that come in and so

699
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.039
it's it's the second week. Sorry, don't have the dates in my mind.

700
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:04.239
That second week in October, the
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

701
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.320
at Keno, right. And we
average over four thousand people a game.

702
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.440
We bring in some of the one
of the largest bands from Mexico, Labrisa.

703
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:15.840
Uh And it's almost always sold out
and sold out meaning eight thousand people.

704
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.679
Uh So it is it a game
for everybody? Probably not, But

705
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:25.239
if you have relatives in Mexico or
you're from Mexico and you've been exposed to

706
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.960
it, you love it and you're
glad that we've brought home to you.

707
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:34.039
And while you live in Tucson and
the food, the food's unbelievables. And

708
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:38.119
it's not just hot dogs and hammerers
and pizza. Man good. It's not

709
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:42.760
even food trucks. I mean,
it's authentic food that they make in Mexico

710
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.480
that we have vendors that are that
are bringing it, and the lines are

711
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.639
and we're not only in Tucson.
We're in Phoenix. We're in Masa Sloane

712
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.440
Park, We're in Merryvale where the
brewers are. We've been in Vegas,

713
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.760
Vegas. Uh So it's it's like
a month long, three weeks. Three

714
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:00.159
weeks, okay, but it's great
for the teams to get ready. And

715
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.519
the reason they love it is they're
they're in major league spring training facilities.

716
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:12.639
They don't have those facilities necessarily for
training. Their stadiums are great, they're

717
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.519
really beautiful stadiums. I remember,
you know, I this is one hundred

718
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.360
years ago, but I was with
a baseball baseball team. Here we went.

719
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.559
We got invited about to go down
to play the University of Emerald CEO

720
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.880
in just a couple of games,
and we didn't get to play in it.

721
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.239
But they took us to Hector Espino
Stadium. Right, they have much

722
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.760
much nicer state. Oh it's not. Also, I mean it was a

723
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.880
big time stadium back then. That
they've got a brand in a brand new

724
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:44.880
meaning six seven years. Yeah,
it's beautiful. I mean it's but people

725
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.480
don't understand it is major League baseball
in Mexico, right, I mean,

726
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:52.119
it's no different than you being a
Dodger fan. That's your passion towards the

727
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.719
non heralds from mammal seal. Right
right, So okay, So the second

728
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:00.960
weekend in October Thursday Friday, Mexican
base off, yesa dot com. Ye

729
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.400
are the team's all lined up and
everything, all right? Yeah, oh

730
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:06.559
yeah, I'll set Yeah, we're
are. My partner does a great job

731
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:08.599
in that. And there's a lot
of American players, yeah, you know

732
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.960
each scock Paradei's I know, you're
you're not good with all that. But

733
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.039
he plays for Tampa Bay and he's
there starting third basement. He's been in

734
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.000
that league. There's a lot of
guys that play in the major leagues that

735
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.519
play in the Mexican Winter League,
right, right, man. I just

736
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.360
remember being being at the office when
I was at the Sugar Sol was being

737
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.679
at the office and you guys,
right, and the thing and I come

738
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.920
out of my own and it was
loud. It was a line down the

739
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:37.920
end of the parking lot right,
tickets um and the foodsmell awesome, and

740
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.199
it was just it just was all
looks so great. It's it's like a

741
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.599
ton of fun. If you like
baseball on a party, check out the

742
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.199
Mexican Baseball Yes, all right,
so and look it's baseball, man.

743
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.400
You know, we just don't have
enough of it here. And O'Brien mentioned,

744
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.119
you know that he loves that you
you keep baseball alive here, and

745
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:58.199
I don't know, maybe someday,
right we've you know this, uh,

746
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.159
the Sports Commission that's been working on
that and about what's going on there,

747
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.199
I've talked too. Yeah, and
and they've got some good plans. I

748
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.039
mean, they they want to hopefully
bring some Major League spring training games here

749
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:15.440
against possibly Mexican teams. Uh,
maybe even as early as next year.

750
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.960
So that's something they're working on.
It would be like split squads, right

751
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.960
Uh. And and I know they've
talked to the Diamondbacks. Uh. And

752
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:28.079
you know, down the road someday
they would like to to see if it's

753
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:32.320
possible, if Major League Baseball expands, to see what can happen to get

754
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:40.079
some spring training facility, not necessarily
at Keino, but maybe in another Ariano

755
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.039
or somewhere that's a little closer to
Phoenix County, a little better access up

756
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.000
that way. I'll tell you what
if they you know, if the Dodgers

757
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.320
split squad, Dodger team came down
here to playing Mexican team, if I

758
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.239
can be there, I'm there.
Oh, I agree, right right,

759
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:55.960
I mean, don't you think,
I mean, there's plenty of teams up

760
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.719
in Phoenix. They probably do that
with doesn't have to be the Diamonds,

761
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:04.440
so that be a great addition.
And there they uh Blake Eager, there's

762
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.960
another guy who's who's working I think
i'll ee Farhang is involved in it on

763
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.760
that fountain in that uh sports foundation. Right, so they got good stuff

764
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.199
going on. Yeah, and a
lot of stuff going on around you know

765
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.039
manuf. Well, you know what's
so funny is that people think it's a

766
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:25.800
ghost down Keino Stadium in the complex
that's the farthest thing from the there's amateur

767
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:31.440
baseball. Bill Leith does a really
good job amateur wise, and it's there's

768
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:37.599
stuff going on. Yeah, and
you know it's in the Tucson Swarres are

769
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:42.320
you'll just finished uh finished their season
there, right? Did they win?

770
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.719
I think I think I know they
were pretty good. Yeah, I think

771
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.360
they won the league. Okay,
or they no playoffs or they are they're

772
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.599
in the playoffs or something. But
they might qualify for one of the most

773
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.639
invisible teams ever. Yeah, but
from what I heard, they played pretty

774
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.480
good baseball. Yeah. No,
And you know, I mean and look

775
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.159
when when I was coaching in high
school with you know, you could rent

776
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.480
the stadium for a hundred bucks anymore. It's I know you can't do that

777
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:12.639
anymore. But for a hundred dollars, if anything, they've gotten way too

778
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:16.400
expensive. For one hundred dollars,
you got the stadium right, the lights.

779
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.360
Um, they wouldn't open the snack
bards obviously, but you could.

780
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.320
You you could send somebody up and
do pa right, and we would would

781
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:27.800
schedule a doubleheader there every year at
the end of every year, and it

782
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.440
was a blast for the kids.
Well, I don't have you ever heard

783
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.679
of take sports? Uh, Matt
Tigas. And in the spring, in

784
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.960
the month of March, they bring
in over sixty I want to use the

785
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.960
word Division two, but I mean
I know it's got a different word now,

786
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.800
small college baseball and softball. Right, So over one hundred and twenty

787
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.679
teams come to town over a three
week period. Yeah, it's huge.

788
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.760
Are they still doing the Korean Baseball
League? They are, well, they

789
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.559
train they yeah, they come down
here and train, right, I mean

790
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:04.360
the one year and I think there's
three teams we couldn't we couldn't move into

791
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.039
the major League. The Sugar Sis
could move into the major league locker room

792
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:09.199
because the Korean Baseball one of the
Korean baseball teams, and they sure smoke

793
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:15.639
a lot of cigarettes, they do. But that was fun to watch,

794
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.599
you know, that's good play.
But now even especially there's a lot of

795
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.440
Korean players, obviously Japanese players,
but Major League Baseball. I don't know

796
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:27.559
if you saw it that it's opening
the regular season the next year Soul Korea.

797
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.000
The Dodgers are are in there.
Yeah, the Dodgers are gonna open

798
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.480
our are one of the teams that's
gonna play, right, I saw that.

799
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.519
So baseball it's gotten pretty global.
Yeah, it's it's pretty fun.

800
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.039
But yeah, no, I know
that that the things being used all the

801
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.239
time right now are there? There
shouldn't be more baseball, right are there

802
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.880
seven thousand fans they're watching this.
No, there aren't, but the facilities

803
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:51.800
are being used right and and uh
I think MLS still comes in for some

804
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.880
exhibition games. Yeah on the north
side, yep, yep, yep,

805
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:58.840
at the at the stadium over there, right absolutely, it's there's only we're

806
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.039
getting some use out of it,
but to get some more and without right

807
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.679
now, would very much love to
see spring training back down here again.

808
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.760
Very very cool. I I don't
want to sound negative. But I can't

809
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.079
see spring training happening in that stadium. Yeah, oh down in that stadium.

810
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.440
No, somewhere in the area though, right, we'd love that.

811
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:17.880
All right, Hey, Mike,
thanks again, man, it was it

812
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.400
was fun to have you here.
Fun Thanks for thinking I'm a hick around

813
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.920
some ult some things. And uh, I know that you know, you're

814
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:28.760
still a busy guy as best as
I can tell. And uh, you

815
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.480
know, we just appreciate that you
you come in and did this with us,

816
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.159
and we'll get you back in sports. Yeah, it is, it

817
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.320
is and there is. Man,
there was a lot going on, funny,

818
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:39.920
and we talked through all of it. So again, Mike, thanks

819
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:44.039
a bunch. Good luck with the
baseball Fiesta with Ludos and Fantasy Camp.

820
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.079
And by the way, this is
the best logo. It is the Cactus

821
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:50.280
Arizona Cactus logo. Great hat,
great hat. All right, everybody,

822
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.800
have a great weekend. Steve will
be back on Monday and we'll be back

823
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:53.000
at it. So thanks for being
here.