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Welcome back on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host,
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fun. But we've got some of the usual stuff, so we're gonna go
with our breaking news. This is I on the Ball Breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. Okay, so Mike did give up a couple of my
breaking news items of at the top talking about this, excuse me, the
situation with Sean Payton where he he um again. He said he was sorry
he said what he said. He's sorry that he said it, but he's
not sorry of what he said when he said that intent that it was the
worst coaching job in the history of the fell at Denver last year. That
sounds like Sean pay did you get did you get to know him? Coach
I worked with with Jim Haslet, okay and Joe Horn. Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Brooks yeah, that that group. Yeah, so I didn't I
didn't have the any of the benefits of the great teams. Yeah, yeah,
but interesting things. So now he's got it. He's got to coach
this team. And I'm sure and I guess uh Nathaniel Hacket his own assistant
with the Jets. He is, and the and the Jets and the and
the Broncos were scheduled to play each other this week five. Yeah, so
we'll see if well. But the funny part is is that Hackett was one
of the guys instrumental in the Aaron Rodgers deal because Hackett worked with Rogers with
the Packers. Yeah, and and then had a great relationship with Rogers.
Yeah. So it's just funny and truthfully, some guys are made to be
assistant coaches. That's exactly what I was gonna say just now minutes. I
was gonna say, some guys are made to be head coaches. No,
you know, Mike Stoops, right, And he's the one that comes to
mind, because he just was not He didn't want to be a head he
didn't want to do the things the head coach. One great assistant coach.
He's still coaching right at various places he's been at number of places. He
just didn't seem to me like he wanted to be the head coach, right,
you know, And and so he's won the six sticks in my mind
about that. Um, all right, we did mention Joe Burrow who's carted
off the field yesterday. He's got a right calf string. Um, he's
gonna be out several weeks. They don't know if he's gonna be it,
you know, be out beyond the start of the regular season. But he's
you know, does he even need to practice? Right? And I always
get an argument with people about this who get all excited about training camp games,
you know, the exhibition games they mean nothing. And then I mean,
the starting quarterback will play a series and then they go look at everybody
else, well, and it's the third team players playing against a third team
visiting players. Though, is there a jewel that comes out of it?
Yes? Yeah. The worst part is that season. You know, when
I was with the Saints, you force your season ticket holders to buy the
ticket. Now it's only cost the same it does, but now it's only
three exhibition games as opposed to four. And look, I like turning on
the TV and seeing an exhibition game on and seeing the uniforms and they're playing
foot better watch the quarter But but I don't. But I don't sit on
and watch the games. Right, I'll stop on the channel. I'll see
who's playing and if if one of the starting quarterbacks is playing or something like
that, I'll watch it for a minute. But the minute throut of the
game. You mean you don't make any betsie exhibit, I don't know.
I'm kidding. I know you know what I've I've been. I'm a degenerate.
I bet on I bet on some really shady things that you'd go,
what the hell, But I've not bet on exhibition. No, it's it's
and there's a purpose. The purpose is to see some players in an environment,
to test some guys. But if you're a head coach, you are
sitting on that sideline praying, yeah, you guys, none of your guys
don't get hurt exactly, just just the way that you know the college coaches
are when they have a scrimmage. Right, all right, here's an interesting
one. So uh um, I think it's it's pronounced Tauliah Tongua viola,
brother of of of the other two apparently he's a quarterback in Maryland. He
told a reporter yesterday that he was offered one point five million dollars who from
an SEC team to transfer in the offseason. Well, there's somebody in Alabama
that has some connections to that family. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
and that's the assumption, right right, there was somebody from Alabama. But
they don't Alabama doesn't need to bring in well they don't have a quarterback this
year, but still to bring in a guy for a million dollars. No,
someone, look, if you've got if you've got a booster that says,
look, you go get this quarterback, I'll give you the million and
a half. Are you gonna say no? Thanks? How much should arch
manning it? There's been no word about that, but no, Actually the
word on that is that he didn't he didn't get a lot because he didn't
ask for a lot, because he's got a lot. But he also is
not gonna take it if he's not starting. Did you hear that whatever the
money was, Oh, is that I hadn't heard any of that, so
um, you know, but he and and that's what they and this is
this is the and here's here's the quote from from Tongue of Biola. It
can be eye opening. But I think for my situation, if I was
in a different situation where maybe I didn't have a brother in the NFL,
or maybe my parents, it'd be a different situation. It would be hard
for me to go to another place and not be happy but have all the
money in the world. I'd rather be at a place where maybe I don't
have as much, but I'm happy and I'm here to work. Interesting,
right, interesting thing million and a half though you know him, he just
came out and said he didn't say who. He just said, I got
I got that, I got that off and stuff. I'm not a big
fan of the n I N I oh no. By the way, I'm
glad for players receiving pay, but but what it does, there's got to
be better ways of controlling Well, you know, we had we we keep
referencing. We had an interesting conversation with Jenny Dalton, remember the songball player
here to Arizona, and you know she's a she's a works for ESPN.
She said this, this has just got an all twisted. It's you know,
nil isn't what NIL was meant to be. You know, and I
always meant to be. You come to a university, if you if there's
some value to your name, image and likeness, you can get value for
that, get some money live off of that. It's a pay it's become
a pay for play thing. It's it's it's not it's not you know it.
Do you have value in your name, image and likeness. It's like,
we have a position that we need to fill and we have a million
dollars to fill it with. Will you put it and make that million dollars
and then it's become that it said, it's all wrong. Well, if
anybody wants to give to you, do you have a basketball guys? I
don't know, if you know, Adam Lazarus might a couple of times.
Yeah they do. You know Arizona Assists, they've done some great things.
They're actually gonna be involved with us for the fantasy camp, are they?
But you know it's it's basketball specific, right, and you know people I
you know, I put my one hundred dollars up just to support it,
but they give it to the play well and we had ray Wells on from
friends of Wilbur and Wilma, right, and now they've created a football specific
a collective that's a kind of a subset of the the umbrella want, right,
and then they have and you know, the question we had with him
was, you know, are you guys all fighting for the same money?
Is there enough money to go around? And he basically said there is.
Well, I've always wondered, how much is it hurting the athletic department if
somebody is giving I'll make it up fifty thousand dollars to a collective to an
nil they wouldn't have given to the program from a sponsorship or a foundation,
standpoint right. And that was the question that that's the question that the running
question that Steve and I have about all of this. It's like, this
is twos on Arizona. There's money here, but there's not, you know,
so much money. It's not an unlimited amount of money, right,
So yeah, you're right, if if you're if you're If you have fifty
thousand dollars to give, and now you're giving it to a collective instead of
the university to support the program as a whole, what kind of a what
kind of a strain is that putting on the athletic department? Which is a
question that we want to ask somebody from the athletic department at some point to
say, Okay, since NIL has these collectives have been formed, are you
still getting the same level of donor money and stuff like that? And they,
you know, I don't know what they'll say. They might say,
oh, yeah, we're still getting ours and they're getting theirs. Have you
ever had anybody from IMGN Joe Mueller? No, he he told me the
other day. I hope I'm not speaking on school. I said, well,
how is the NIL you know, everything hurting you, you know,
and stuff like that. He said. The University of Arizona from a sponsorship
level, and I amg by the way they sell sponsorships and then they give
a they make a payment to the university, but they control it all.
He said, their second only to Oregon in the pack twelve. Wow as
far as generating revenue. And so you can say a little tuson Arizona.
Well, somebody's doing pretty good combodies. Yeah, And and that's a might
being the case. And because you know, let's say, you know Seattle,
you got Washington over there. Well there's also the Seahawks, right,
you know the baseball you know, baseball there's plenty of place in Phoenix.
Yeah, and up in Phoenix, right yeah, so yeah, no,
I'm that kind of doesn't surprise me that Oregon in Arizona at the top of
that list because their college house. Well but but Oregon actually as somebody that
they got a guy that Phil Knight. That's oh yeah, that guy,
that guy. All right, Um, this came across this a little bit
ago, but uh, I hadn't heard about this at all, but Bob,
I guess it's Wager. W A G. E. R. Who
had been hired as a tight ends coach right out of high school by Matt
rule uh At at Nebraska, has resigned his position as the Nebraska tight ends
coach. His statement or you know this, Yeah, his statement is,
it is with great remorse that I resigned for my position as a system football
coach at the University of University of Nebraska. Earlier this week, I received
a citation for a driving offense that I regret immensely. You think he was
five miles over the level I I. You know, we could throw out
a bunch of things at that site. That offense might have been, but
whatever it is, it was serious enough that he had to lose it.
So it wasn't a speeding ticket for going turn over the speed limit, right,
it was something much more serious than that. So he's he's uh,
he's resigned from UM from Nebraska. So so they probably didn't need to have
have happened to them. And then, uh, are you any kind of
a swifty No? I saw the size make effect in Seattle. According to
The New York Times, the Taylor Swift concert in downtown Seattle last weekend shook
the ground so hard it caused a quote unquote swift quake registrate signals on the
nearby seismometer, roughly equivalent to a magnitude two point three earthquakes. I've talked
to people who going to a concert. It's not me. Yeah, she
puts on a three hour concert. Yeah, in the rain. Yeah,
she's done it in the in a howling storm. It's a it's a hell
of a show. I had a lot of money. Yeah, I've seen
views from you know, seats and I'm like, how do you how do
you watch this time? But I, you know, I get it.
I went to uh, my wife and I as a as a Christmas present,
right, I got her. I got tickets to see you two at
the Cardinal Stadium and the stage was at one end and we were at the
other end, and they were so far away, but it was a great
We heard the music because the speakers on the screens. But you see,
you know, I've known a few people as well have gone to this concert.
It's just and then I've seen a lot of videos. This is crazy.
Well, my best YouTube memory is when the Saints come back after Katrina.
Yeah, and you know that that song about what's that about New Orleans?
And yeah, and and that they bano just they put some words in
about the Saints in New Orleans and it was it was goosebumps. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, pretty cool. I saw a funny TikTok video. It
was as somebody going to the concert. By her voice, I thought she
was maybe sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old or whatever, and she's doing
a panoramic shot of the stadium and she's all the way at the top right
and a panoram and maybe she set this up or maybe she really believed this,
but she said, I can believe that this many people would want to
come and see a Taylor Swift concert, But I just can't believe that this
man people who would want to come and see a football game. That's probably
true. Yep, I guess it's in the football Well they do, they
do, and they fill the stadium up for football games. Wow. What's
the average price for Rose concerts? There are a lot three four hundred dollars.
Yeah, more than yeah, six hundred dollars. I think, I
I I had curiosity one day. I went on like Ticketmaster and the cheapest
ticket I saw was like six hundred and eighty bucks or something. I just
want to know, you're really well when they were at Cardinal Stadium, that
you you do TikTok. I do. I do not do TikTok. I'm
fascinated by it. It's and well that last time, so much stuff is
on It's like Twitter. There's a lot of stuff on there that I really
don't care to see. There's a lot of cool stuff. Um. Somehow
it got into my you know, into my feed that I had gone to
Dallas, they gone to the sixth Floor Museum. So I'm getting in a
bunch of jfk assassination videos on my feed now because of that mark No no,
no, no, no, I think and I and I've not I've
not posted any thing. I just I just check out videos. A lot
of music, a lot of a lot of a lot of um you know,
videos of bands that I like, you know, because it knows what
my music takes this. I see a lot of Eagles and Doobie Brothers,
and so that's I like it, you know, I dude. As I'm
getting ready to call it a night, you'll bring on my iPad and I
watch stuff and put myself to sleep. I fall asleep with Sports Center on.
I gotta turn off the TV because my wife doesn't like having the TV
upright, I put on my headphones, put it, put on my iPad,
and I watched stuff. So all right, we're gonna take our break.
We're gonna come back. We're gonna have Jake Fisher. Well, well,
we'll get back to the subject of the Colorado heading to the Big twelve
and what that means for Arizona. Jake's a former linebacker at Arizona, so
I'm sure he's got some strong thoughts on out. We'll be right back.
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Just Surgery I on the Ball, Welcome Back on the Balling on Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. Um your host for the rest of the day, jagon Zalas.
Steve Rivera's out carousing around New Mexico somewhere. I've got my guest co
hosting and Mike Vader. And now on the line, we've got Jake Fisher
from Arizona. Linebacker in Arizona, big insurance guy up in Phoenix area,
one of our great sponsors of our show, and Jake Um. You know,
since we last talk, man, a whole lot of stuff has happened
over with the with the Pac twelve and the Big twelve. Just give us
your initial thoughts on Colorado leaving for the Big twelve and how you think that
impacts Arizona. Well, first thing, I don't know how you can go
from Larry Scott and get worse like it just sounds like this guy is even
worse than Larry Scott wasn't. That's pretty tough to do. I don't know
how he didn't realize that not having numbers was going to negatively affect a couple
of the folks that have been thinking about moving to greener pastures. So,
honestly, I think Colorado leaving I don't really think that's going to move the
needle unless you know, Dion stays there for a few years and get into
national prominencing, gets a couple of you know, top ten, top fifteen
classes, and they're competing at the top of the Big twelve, which since
Oklahoma and Texas left, I don't think that's going to be necessarily, you
know, tough to do. You know, you still have Oklahoma State and
Baylor in Kansas State, but you're not going to have that bell count that
you have winning it or at least you know, a position or win it
every year. So yeah, they can potentially do that if they are able
to get a couple of good classes in. But I think Arizona sha follow
suit. I kind of think this is what they were looking to do,
to be honest with you, because if you have turmoil up at the top,
and you have a lot of ads or not ads, but presidents that
don't necessarily care about sports that much, and you're trying to compete in the
space of sports, then you need to go where the folks care about sports.
But that's kind of my take on the whole thing. I just think
has been kind of a dumpster fire on behalf of the you know, the
presidents of the PAC twall for the most part, allowing Larry Scott to get
away with some of the things that he got away with. And the new
guy can't even pronounce his name. I just don't think he's, you know,
done a good job. Yeah, I think I think the thing that
you're you're hearing more than anything is that M. George nice guy. Everybody
likes him. Um looked like he could come in and do a great job.
But he's just been called with his pants down too many, too many
times. Whether it was the USC UCLA thing, whether it was the fifty
million dollars that they oh Comcast thing, this alliance handshake agreement that they had
with the ACC and the Big ten, and a few months later the Big
ten turns around and sucksy USC and UCLA in there, and then this thing
with Colorado. You know, as much as we like the guy and he's
a nice guy, you got you have to admit that it's hits. He's
not done a great job. No, And like I said, it might
have just been you know, too far gone with what Larry Scott. But
once again, you got to kind of put some of the onus on some
of the presidents of the Pack twelve. You know, they are kind of
letting this thing go the way it is. And if you don't care about
sports, you know, if you're at cal or Stanford or some of these
other programs, then I mean, shoot, traditionally they've been powerhouses in certain
sports, and they're just going to continue not to be relevant nationally. So
I mean it's like, what can you do. You have a couple of
schools that really want to get out of the pack towel because they want to
compete in sports space. I think Arizona's going to be next to fall.
We have a president that actually enjoys sports and thinks it's very important to have.
You know, obviously it's a revenue generator, and you know, we'll
go from here. But one of the things that you know keeps coming up
is, you know, and I keep seeing folks. For me, if
you're talking about their potential moved to the Big twelve, how great would that
be if we went to the Big twelve and they had to go to the
Mountain West. I think that would be one of the funnier things I've seen
in quite a while. And um, you know, I know that they're
they're athletics director, and their presidents doesn't necessarily care that much about sports either,
So hey, I'm all for it. Well there, you know,
and again that's been a bit of the conversation is that, you know,
there's some people saying, well, you know, the Board of Regents is
never going to let Arizona go without a SU. Well, that's not true
anymore. And Bobby Robins is publicly said, we're not locked at you know,
we're not tied to SU. We're gonna do well what's good for us.
If they want to come along, great, but we're not waiting for
him. And I think that that's a that's a good thing. How how
confident are you in in Robin's obviously because he's the president, but also in
Dave Hkey and and and ending up in the right place. You know,
I'm pretty confident, to be one hundred percent honest with you. I think
that they've done a pretty damn good job in a big time revenue generating sports
space over the past couple of years. I mean, you look at the
hires that they've brought in, obviously for basketball and football, they've done an
incredible job. And Robins and Jekier. You know, obviously he key if
he's the athletic director. But Robins is a huge sports fan from right out
here. So yes, um, you know, I think they're just gonna
con need to want to move in that direction. So I'm confident, Like
I said that, you know, with the exception of the someone move,
everything that they've done since then, I've you know, I've like very much.
So you know, we'll see where it goes. But I think we're
going to be in the Big twelve, and I think that basketball wise,
obviously, it's going to make the best basketball league in the country that much
stronger. You know, we're gonna get to have you know, home in
a ways of Kansas and Baylor in Houston and stuff like that. I mean,
I can't wait to watch those games. It's gonna be fun. It's
gonna be nice to see Arizona visiting another arena where it's actually packed instead of
going to an organ state or a Washington state that's got maybe less than a
thousand people in the stands. So it's just going to improve everything and just
having that national prominence, you know, actually having you know, some stability,
knowing that you're gonna be on television, knowing that you're in a conference
that actually wants to keep up with sports in certain ways, and you're gonna
be on television and it's just gonna help all the other programs. So I'm
looking forward to it. You were on the team that played on the Rich
Run and they're played Oklahoma State here, right, Yeah, So I mean
you remember that atmosphere. Yeah, absolutely, I mean that was just you
know again there there there have been a few teams that have come here that
you just go, Holy hell, these people like they care about their football,
right Iowa that that you know, that game with Eyowa there was just
a complete sell out. Um, we had Ohio State here, you know,
late in the tony years. You know that that Oklahoma State game sticks
out to me as one. Um. You know, we've had those teams
here. We've had Texas Tech here a couple of times. We had Houston
here. I mean, those things, they they they they up the end
here. I think they really do. You're right, because you know,
you go to a you go to a you know, a Washington State basketball
game, you might as well go to a high school basketball game, right
right. There's there's something about the Midwest and the South where even if you're
not very good, they still care. They're still gonna show up. You
know. It's it's something about the uh, just the atmosphere year that brings
a little bit more out of the athlete. They understand that and they want
to see their team win. You know, it's like over here on the
West Coast for whatever reason, and you know, the West Coast has obviously
gotten a little bit of a reputation, reputation for being um front runners here
and then in a few years you know that well in the past few years
anyway, And next thing, you know, if your team is good,
you have an awesome crowd. If it's pack twelve after dark and you're playing
another ranked team, you have the chance we're half of your stadium entees.
Because you know, Greek life wants to go in party and people want to
put their kids to bed at a certain point you go into the middest of
the style. You know they're playing, you know, before bedtime. Obviously
they have people that stayed for the games. Even when we went to Toledo,
my software like, I mean, their stadium only holds like probably fifteen
thousand people, and that thing was loud. I mean, it's Toledo.
It's not in an Ohio State. It's not in Oklahoma State. When we
went to Oklahoma State my junior or the year I had to sit out.
I mean, shoot, they were obviously nationally ranked. But you an Arizona
team from the West coast, you know, from two hund Arizona shows up
and it's still loud as all help. So it's a little bit different,
and I think that I think that'll kind of help us out. All right,
So practice starts next week. Things get going. First of all,
tell me, you know the practice starts I think on Wednesday. So let's
say a week ahead of time. As you were getting ready for practice,
what's going through your mind? What are you doing to be ready to hit
the field in a week? I mean you're just staying staying up to dawn
on your place. You got to know all the nuances. They're going to
kind of throw the basics at you the first week or so. But then
you know, just get better at your job. Obviously, you got to
stay in shape, make sure that you keep up with your nutrition, watch
a lot of film, and just stel ready. I mean a couple of
days before camp I wouldn't do any crazy thing physical because you're gonna get your
buttonhomped. In camp, They're gonna they're gonna take a lot out of you
the first couple of weeks, and then getting closer to the game, they're
going to kind of dial things back. But just stay in shape, to
keep nutrition up, stay in the stay in the weight room, and then
dial it back a little bit right before so that you have to manage you
to go out the first day and get these rolling. Hey Jake, how
would you compare I don't know how close you are to the UFA currently to
coaching and all that, the environment and the current staff, coaching staff,
weight room, training practice schedule compared to past regimes. Is that something you
can compare not to not really. What I'll tell you is both coaching staff
that I was under they were completely different, but there were a lot of
things that were the same. You know, under the Stoops years, we
were up, you know, super early, and we were back in the
dorms, you know, super super late. When it came to rich run,
he wanted you to sleep in, be able to take a little bit
of time off. But when it was football, you're gonna get five or
six straight hours just football on your face and then go home and you know,
hang out and do your thing. And both coaching staffs were awesome.
You know, the first coaching staff obviously more defense oriented, uh, you
know, entirety, and then the second staff, I think it was a
little bit more offensive borriented, to be honest with you. They just completely
different systems. Um, you know the weight room guys. The first one
it was more about mass. The second one, I mean we ran until
we threw up almost every day. So they were both really good. Just
you know, whatever tendencies you tourd to, you know that you tend to
lean towards, I guess is the best way to go about it, whatever
offense it is. Or you know, if you want to be a slowdown,
kind of grinded out football team, you want to get bigger. Um,
you know, it kind of starts with what your fundamentals are and what
you for your game plan is. So what what what would be the one
or two pieces of advice you'd give to an incoming, brand new freshman guy
who was in high school last year. Maybe highly recruited, maybe not,
but either way, in the you know, you're you're you're in the recruiting
class. Um. Some different guys have different expectations. But what's the thing
that you would tell them? Here's the thing you need to know about what
this is going to be like when practice star next week? Shut up,
listen you can and if the coach isn't yelling at you, that me and
he doesn't care about you. So if he's yelling at you, it's a
good thing. Okay, there you go. Did you get yelled at a
lot? Absolutely? Who yelled us here? Especially that that just means if
they care about you. Yeah, you know. Coach Cass still used to
always tell us, hey, listen, if I'm not getting in your face
and yelling at you, that means I've giving up on it. You don't
want that. If you hear me quiet, or if you don't hear me
at all, that's when you need to worry. If I'm getting in your
face, I know that you have more than you can give me. Is
either one they yelled at you the most? Uh? Yeah, probably because
he was my position coach or two years and and Coach Kiss didn't really yell
a lot, you know, so uh, Coach Cass still he was more
of the old school coach, obviously being at West Virginia for a few years,
so you could probably pick that up. Yeah, were you Were you
excited about it or were you like nervous about it? What were you?
What we as far as that goes, What were you? What was on
your mind? You know, going into it like that, Well, I
was in the I sap in my life. Um, you know, I
legitimately, like you know, I couldn't run for crap my senior year,
Like my body just started to break down. But going into it, I
was faster than I've ever been. Um, you know, I'd boomed down
to about one I'm like to win. Um, I mean I was in
the best shape of my life. So I was ready to go, you
know, and I had been doing a bunch of other stuff on the side,
so it was you know, I was excited to kind of go out
and you know, show what I can do. And my my goal was
to play freshman year, and I was able to play special teams and so
you know, I was able to accomplish that goal. And then uh,
obviously I wanted to get into two deep. We had four senior linebackers that
year, so you know, I wasn't going to crack the rotation, but
um, you know, I was going to set myself up to being the
too deep to start the next year, and I was able to accomplish that.
What was there a welcome to college football moment for you where either you
got you got your skull crushed, or somebody said something to you, or
you realized how serious it was. I mean, what was that? Was
there a moment like that early on or when did that come about? I
think the first time that came about was when we started. You know,
we put on paths and we were in the middle of camp going into our
first our first game, and you guys remember a big dude by the name
of Von Dotti. Yeah. Yeah. We had to do inside run and
he was the guard that polls and I had to go down and I had
to set the edge and I had to lean back into him in wrong arm
him and crack him. And so I had a three hundred and fifty pound
guy running at full speed multiple times a day, just basically going head to
head with him. And you know, at the end of those first few
days, because I'm not used to hitting, uh, you know, an
athletic six five three hundred and fifty pound guy that's actually agile and they can
move. I'm not used to, you know, hitting a target like that,
so you know, I had a headache for the first month. Well
how did you do? The important question? I know, what, how
did you do against them? Oh? I was able to stop him,
but there are a couple of times where he almost bent my you know,
you know what backwards it was. It was tough, I mean, and
once again it was twos against one. So I'm running twos and I'm going
again. It's our biggest and strongest winneman every single play. So you know,
I was able to kind of keep my feet on the ground most of
the time, but a couple of times, you know, you watch film,
and just because he's so much bigger than me, like you know,
from my waist up, it started to kind of bend. And it's just
one of those things where I had to kind of hang on for dear life
so I could set the edge and we could make a play. Wow,
man, oh man, I don't know, man, And you did that
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Steve and Jacob Solids they have their I on the Ball on two Suns Sports
station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Welcome back, kind Fall. I'm dagon
VALA's the You're Not Lonely co host, even though my normal co host Steve
Riverazon DVD. I got Mike Vader's been here last couple of days. It
goes fast, doesn't it. It does go fast. You mentioned a team
we as the a team for the Mexican Baseballs at Rushers. I talked to
actually talk to Andy Brown today, one of the owners. Yeah, the
ATAM. Do you remember he played for you? Ye? Played, Well,
he sat in for me when I was out last Friday. He was
He sat in that chair last week. We had Andy as one of our
coaches. Yeah. For this year's upcoming little hols and fantasy basketball. Yeah,
well we'll talk basketball with Andy all the time. When the good and
one of the good guys in town. And you know, and look,
you've been here how many years since eighty seven nine? You know, I'm
a native born here, if I always lived here. I love the guys
that people that come here and stay right. So many of these athletes you
have a ath right who have done that you know, you you know they
come to Matt Muellbach, Right, you mentioned him coming to who comes and
does the basketball camp, and some of those other guys, you know,
Reggie Geary, who's decide you know, who lives here. And these guys,
Brandon Sanders is here, right, all these guys who came here to
go to school to play a sport but then came back or they've stayed.
Ricky and Lamont and all those guys. See soul, you know, doesn't
count that I was. I snuck away for four and a half years.
Well you know you needed a job, right, Okay, but you're back
right. And I told my wife when we went to the Saints, when
I fully vested in the NFL pension, Yeah, we're going back to two
cents. Yeah. I mean, you're from Chicago, right right in the
Chicago area, and you're here and you've stayed here. Yeah, Well let
me ask why. It's just a great place to live. I mean,
great people, I mean, and I have a different experience having run the
baseball team. You even get to know more people that you wouldn't as the
guy who's working for Farmers Insurance, right, And so I I just loved
it. I loved being around the fans. I love being around the sports,
and it just it was home. I mean, you know, my
wife and I are heavily involved in charity stuff in the community, and you
know, we'll do anything we can to give back. And that's really cool.
I mean, you raise your son here right right, you know,
now you're a grandfather. Yep. One in the and it's only one and
done. That's that hell, one and done. Yeah, one and done.
Diego's four years old. Just celebrated his fourth birthday. But that's you
know, and you know, my son just played the Foothills. Yeah,
actually played in the Cannybe Little League, So good luck. Can you state
champions? They should have been in our breaking news. Yeah. And my
wife and I actually made a donation to help and travel yeah. Uh so
no, So it's it's it's exciting. There's just so many good things that
happened there, except for the days when you have thirty consecutive days of one
hundred Gray greater, but you know what the worst another pace. I'll tell
you what. It was hotter over the weekend in Dallas, and it's been
I lived in New Orleans for five years. Yeah. Yeah, and Jackson,
Mississippi. Yeah, I'll take I'll take our one hundred and five hundred
and eight. But you know, I quasi retired except for some projects I
take on and I work out of the house and the air conditioning works really,
oh, it does, it does. So we were talking about the
Ludelson Fantasy Camp coming up. I can give me the dates on that again.
It's gonna be the twenty fourth of August through the twenty seventh, Okay,
all right, And people can still sign up going to going to the
website for the Facebook Paulson Fantasy Camp dot com. Okay, and you can
still sign up for that. Trying to get about thirty six thirty six guys,
we'll get to it. You said, yeah, you said you got
about seventy five percent. Keep coming back, right, Obviously it's something good
for those guys. Well, Don treng Gali. I don't know if you've
ever met Don. He's with Sporting Chants, done a lot of things,
played basketball with him a lot. His Sporting Chance board of directors. Uh,
they got together and they've added four new h people in the camp and
we do it as Sporting Chance that they take great care so people all know
what Sporting Chances basketball volleyball, all kinds of indoor sports. And it's great,
great facility up on the Choya and just off for rivers off of river.
Yeah, as you know with my kids in volleyball and basketball, if
we did win a lot of right, it's a great facility, right,
a great facility all right. And then uh later you've got the Mexican Baseball
Yes to mister president of the Mexican Baseball tell us what's going on with that?
This is year twelve twelve. Yeah, we started when my partner,
Francisco Gamez, came to me with an idea. I was running the Tucson
Padres in twenty eleven and he said, well, I cold call me.
He said, I think this would be something really good for Tucson. The
Mexican Winter League is major League Baseball in Mexico, and and I think it'd
be good for them to come to the States and train. Well, here
we are here twelve. I said. The only way we'll do it is
one stipulation. And I went on YouTube. I looked out it's not the
way we did Triple A baseball. Yeah, it's a party. I mean
the word fiesta hits our event. And and I said if we do it
the way they do it in Mexico, I'm in. If we do it
the way we did the tucsonon Padres or the Toros, I'm out yeah and
oh no, and he his face lit up, and it's it's crazy.
I mean, we have music all the time, and the only time the
music stops is when the picture goes in the stretch. Yeah, it's so
funny. When the U of A and they're coming back again this year,
don't play the second game on Thursday against Aramocio, the U of A baseball
team and Chip Hale said this, Jay Johnson had both said this. They
said, our players love it. They want to come back every year.
I said, well, does does the music bother him? Yeah? The
first time they come to bat, Yeah, you know, and the first
the first time they're doing it. But now it's just they just love the
party and they and they look forward to coming back. Now it is a
little strange for for those senior U of A baseball fans. Oh my god,
turn the music down. You're killing me. But we'll bring in teams
Aermo Ceo over we go in MEXICALI h teams like that come in and so
it's it's the second week. Sorry, don't have the dates in my mind.
That second week in October, the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday
at Keno, right. And we average over four thousand people a game.
We bring in some of the one of the largest bands from Mexico, Labrisa.
Uh And it's almost always sold out and sold out meaning eight thousand people.
Uh So it is it a game for everybody? Probably not, But
if you have relatives in Mexico or you're from Mexico and you've been exposed to
it, you love it and you're glad that we've brought home to you.
And while you live in Tucson and the food, the food's unbelievables. And
it's not just hot dogs and hammerers and pizza. Man good. It's not
even food trucks. I mean, it's authentic food that they make in Mexico
that we have vendors that are that are bringing it, and the lines are
and we're not only in Tucson. We're in Phoenix. We're in Masa Sloane
Park, We're in Merryvale where the brewers are. We've been in Vegas,
Vegas. Uh So it's it's like a month long, three weeks. Three
weeks, okay, but it's great for the teams to get ready. And
the reason they love it is they're they're in major league spring training facilities.
They don't have those facilities necessarily for training. Their stadiums are great, they're
really beautiful stadiums. I remember, you know, I this is one hundred
years ago, but I was with a baseball baseball team. Here we went.
We got invited about to go down to play the University of Emerald CEO
in just a couple of games, and we didn't get to play in it.
But they took us to Hector Espino Stadium. Right, they have much
much nicer state. Oh it's not. Also, I mean it was a
big time stadium back then. That they've got a brand in a brand new
meaning six seven years. Yeah, it's beautiful. I mean it's but people
don't understand it is major League baseball in Mexico, right, I mean,
it's no different than you being a Dodger fan. That's your passion towards the
non heralds from mammal seal. Right right, So okay, So the second
weekend in October Thursday Friday, Mexican base off, yesa dot com. Ye
are the team's all lined up and everything, all right? Yeah, oh
yeah, I'll set Yeah, we're are. My partner does a great job
in that. And there's a lot of American players, yeah, you know
each scock Paradei's I know, you're you're not good with all that. But
he plays for Tampa Bay and he's there starting third basement. He's been in
that league. There's a lot of guys that play in the major leagues that
play in the Mexican Winter League, right, right, man. I just
remember being being at the office when I was at the Sugar Sol was being
at the office and you guys, right, and the thing and I come
out of my own and it was loud. It was a line down the
end of the parking lot right, tickets um and the foodsmell awesome, and
it was just it just was all looks so great. It's it's like a
ton of fun. If you like baseball on a party, check out the
Mexican Baseball Yes, all right, so and look it's baseball, man.
You know, we just don't have enough of it here. And O'Brien mentioned,
you know that he loves that you you keep baseball alive here, and
I don't know, maybe someday, right we've you know this, uh,
the Sports Commission that's been working on that and about what's going on there,
I've talked too. Yeah, and and they've got some good plans. I
mean, they they want to hopefully bring some Major League spring training games here
against possibly Mexican teams. Uh, maybe even as early as next year.
So that's something they're working on. It would be like split squads, right
Uh. And and I know they've talked to the Diamondbacks. Uh. And
you know, down the road someday they would like to to see if it's
possible, if Major League Baseball expands, to see what can happen to get
some spring training facility, not necessarily at Keino, but maybe in another Ariano
or somewhere that's a little closer to Phoenix County, a little better access up
that way. I'll tell you what if they you know, if the Dodgers
split squad, Dodger team came down here to playing Mexican team, if I
can be there, I'm there. Oh, I agree, right right,
I mean, don't you think, I mean, there's plenty of teams up
in Phoenix. They probably do that with doesn't have to be the Diamonds,
so that be a great addition. And there they uh Blake Eager, there's
another guy who's who's working I think i'll ee Farhang is involved in it on
that fountain in that uh sports foundation. Right, so they got good stuff
going on. Yeah, and a lot of stuff going on around you know
manuf. Well, you know what's so funny is that people think it's a
ghost down Keino Stadium in the complex that's the farthest thing from the there's amateur
baseball. Bill Leith does a really good job amateur wise, and it's there's
stuff going on. Yeah, and you know it's in the Tucson Swarres are
you'll just finished uh finished their season there, right? Did they win?
I think I think I know they were pretty good. Yeah, I think
they won the league. Okay, or they no playoffs or they are they're
in the playoffs or something. But they might qualify for one of the most
invisible teams ever. Yeah, but from what I heard, they played pretty
good baseball. Yeah. No, And you know, I mean and look
when when I was coaching in high school with you know, you could rent
the stadium for a hundred bucks anymore. It's I know you can't do that
anymore. But for a hundred dollars, if anything, they've gotten way too
expensive. For one hundred dollars, you got the stadium right, the lights.
Um, they wouldn't open the snack bards obviously, but you could.
You you could send somebody up and do pa right, and we would would
schedule a doubleheader there every year at the end of every year, and it
was a blast for the kids. Well, I don't have you ever heard
of take sports? Uh, Matt Tigas. And in the spring, in
the month of March, they bring in over sixty I want to use the
word Division two, but I mean I know it's got a different word now,
small college baseball and softball. Right, So over one hundred and twenty
teams come to town over a three week period. Yeah, it's huge.
Are they still doing the Korean Baseball League? They are, well, they
train they yeah, they come down here and train, right, I mean
the one year and I think there's three teams we couldn't we couldn't move into
the major League. The Sugar Sis could move into the major league locker room
because the Korean Baseball one of the Korean baseball teams, and they sure smoke
a lot of cigarettes, they do. But that was fun to watch,
you know, that's good play. But now even especially there's a lot of
Korean players, obviously Japanese players, but Major League Baseball. I don't know
if you saw it that it's opening the regular season the next year Soul Korea.
The Dodgers are are in there. Yeah, the Dodgers are gonna open
our are one of the teams that's gonna play, right, I saw that.
So baseball it's gotten pretty global. Yeah, it's it's pretty fun.
But yeah, no, I know that that the things being used all the
time right now are there? There shouldn't be more baseball, right are there
seven thousand fans they're watching this. No, there aren't, but the facilities
are being used right and and uh I think MLS still comes in for some
exhibition games. Yeah on the north side, yep, yep, yep,
at the at the stadium over there, right absolutely, it's there's only we're
getting some use out of it, but to get some more and without right
now, would very much love to see spring training back down here again.
Very very cool. I I don't want to sound negative. But I can't
see spring training happening in that stadium. Yeah, oh down in that stadium.
No, somewhere in the area though, right, we'd love that.
All right, Hey, Mike, thanks again, man, it was it
was fun to have you here. Fun Thanks for thinking I'm a hick around
some ult some things. And uh, I know that you know, you're
still a busy guy as best as I can tell. And uh, you
know, we just appreciate that you you come in and did this with us,
and we'll get you back in sports. Yeah, it is, it
is and there is. Man, there was a lot going on, funny,
and we talked through all of it. So again, Mike, thanks
a bunch. Good luck with the baseball Fiesta with Ludos and Fantasy Camp.
And by the way, this is the best logo. It is the Cactus
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have a great weekend. Steve will be back on Monday and we'll be back
at it. So thanks for being here.