WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:28.359 M M. It is Tuesday, September the twenty third, and I think 2 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:34.200 that means it's fall now he's fall autumn, thank you? Okay fall? 3 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:38.520 Whoa? But just why don't you count how many Americans are in his room? 4 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:42.039 I just found out that you guys spelled pajamas differently. How do you 5 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:48.320 do? Yeah, p y j yes, yeah, pajamas hi jamas hi 6 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:51.600 jamas? Is that like t y r e? Yeah exactly? This is 7 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:56.520 nonsense. Yeah, yeah, really, I know a tear weird. It's 8 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.560 I know. I just wish they gave me a book. When I got 9 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.079 my VSA, it said, this is all the stuff you need to know 10 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:07.079 because pajamas just blinds your use of the letter you is about to go down. 11 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.480 Hey man, I've written stuff about call of duty. Okay, wait, 12 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:17.480 that's gotta you look. Medal of honor, Medal of honor. Oh, 13 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:19.640 the Irish have invaded the Giant bomb cast. He's up. I'm Brad 14 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.719 Shoemaker. That's Daniel Dwyer. Thanks for having me up. That's sweet Daniel, 15 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:26.200 Daniel. Oh, Daniel by this is great. First Don gives me 16 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.040 a forty of mickeys, so I feel like I'm in Ireland. And now 17 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.799 you're talking like my mom the boy first forty, my first ever forty? 18 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.239 Really? Wow? Did you drink off forty of them? He bought two 19 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:40.200 of them? He was like, you could have two during a wrestling paper 20 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.280 view. But that's fine, that's two and then a bunch of beer on 21 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:46.120 top of that. Yeah, but you weren't going to visit a cemetery with 22 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.879 somebody after the fight. I had to make sure I was sober. That's 23 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:52.640 the other Daniel Young Ricord. Oh, yeah, that's me. I Hello, 24 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.519 Hey, you're scandaling rounding out the cast. Yeah, d three over 25 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.319 here standing standing with arms folded authoritatively at the end of the table, kind 26 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.359 of doing a flying V here as well. Yeah, which people listening to 27 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:09.560 this audio only podcast. Yeah, so yeah, Jeff's Jeff's out this week 28 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:15.159 so or today. So I brought you in Danny from Thanks, we'll see 29 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:16.639 warming. Yeah, I'm from game Spot. One of those people who don't 30 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.280 know who I am. He game spitting games Yeah, game spot game spit. 31 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.800 That's not we don't call it gamespit anymore. Here from all one day, 32 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:30.639 Dan talk about F one for the next two hours. Hijacked this podcast. 33 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:35.080 Now do I talk to you about wrestling. Wait you ye last night 34 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.039 and let's forget about brod. We'll just diagram. We'll make this like you've 35 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:46.439 got you've got your own podcast for that onst oh Man to see uh start 36 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.319 us drive an F one car or have Kimmy Reagan in in the ring. 37 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.080 Dude, we were watching yesterday and Christian really basically looks like Sebastian Fattle. 38 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.840 That's the guy who showed me the picture of Oh, I don't know who 39 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.360 the all that guy was happening. Brad's god over here shaking my head. 40 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:07.159 I said no, and you're just continuing or advertising our premium podcast. It's 41 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:08.560 as right, Wait and the odds supposed to go at the top of the 42 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:14.639 Yeah, there's enough ads already. Man Siles Life, Danny Life's okay, 43 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.960 that's great. D A great weekend. Actually, I wouldn't love traveling. 44 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.000 Last month I was a game's calm and then pass its right, and then 45 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.319 I did this half marathon things. So this is the first time I had 46 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.520 like an actual weekend to myself to enjoy myself. Then did you enjoy it? 47 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.599 I did? It was a new affex to an album came out? 48 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.599 Did that come out? Yeah, wow, okay kind of it's now legally 49 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:37.960 streamable. Okay, Ali should and you, yeah, I want to hear 50 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:39.319 it. It's good. It's the first and thirteen years. Yeah. It 51 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:44.879 counter slide projects. That was cool. I read a graphic novel called Sex 52 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:47.719 Criminals pretty crazy, and I played some video games. Really yes, wait 53 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:52.960 a minute, we're only like, like, did we have some minutes into 54 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:55.280 this podcast? I can't talk about video games? What else is on the 55 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:59.240 Q sheet? Bro? Well I could. I could just go to my 56 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:01.240 this chrome, know and look at the tabs that I've got open from before 57 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:05.000 the podcast. Boy, although I've you know, since I took this podcast 58 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:09.400 over, I've never bothered to open a web browser on this studio machine before. 59 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.080 I don't like where this is going, don't know, It's just it's 60 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.680 a deep rabbit It's a rabbit hole with no bottom that we could tumble down. 61 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:17.800 Right if I bring the Internet the Internet, we just speculate wildly. 62 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:21.399 If the Internet becomes the invisible fifth chair on this podcast, We're done. 63 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:26.480 No, Yes, I had. I had a forty over the weekend because 64 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.920 I feel like me and Donna are involved in this sort of long running culture 65 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.240 exchange. Because I gave him the figs on upf How was that you? 66 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.000 Yeah? Okay, well the fig roles they're like this, it's basically a 67 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.839 fig Newton. Yeah, they're good. They're good. He never had figs 68 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:45.839 before. I thought they were sticks. Yeah, remember what you thought figs 69 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.480 were sticks? Yeah, and now I keep hearing about how they're just like 70 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.800 a bunch of dead washs or something. And now that's great sticks, you 71 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:56.399 ate them. Yeah, but you people keep tweeting me like you're eating ruin? 72 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.319 Yeah, what's the dead wasps? Nonsense? Well, I haven't really 73 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.759 done the research, so I can't. The theory being that wasps die inside 74 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.759 of because they're you know, they eat fruits. It was like a drastic 75 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.319 park situation. Yeah, they die inside the fig and then the pig. 76 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.040 The figs get picked and then ground up into fig Newton's. But like there 77 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:16.279 are tolerances for that kind of stuff in every field. Oh yeah, like 78 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:21.279 you are allowed point o o o one percent of rat feces in Yeah, 79 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:25.079 you can look it up, like the FDA has regulations catch up, you 80 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:29.639 know, like here's how many like rat droppings and rations for arsenic levels? 81 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.680 Yeah. Wow, Hey, we had like taco bell Yes, yeah, 82 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.600 probably that was probably mostly it's like point five percent. And then the actual 83 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:41.000 meat is just faces and arsholes. That's fine, delicious faces and assholes. 84 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.639 And no, I didn't just have talked about I had to talk about and 85 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.439 KFC since we went to the not Kin Taco Hut, but just the taco 86 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.959 Kin taco. I got a big bowl of macaroni and cheese with Myotkin taco, 87 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:58.600 like the finally guy and mart of combats too. Ken Taro was buddy, 88 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.560 Okay, you just got mac and cheese. Technically all got coleslaw, 89 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:04.480 which was from the KFC. That's true, that's true, and of course 90 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:08.199 not chose Bella Grumde. I've never gotten that. It's pretty great. I've 91 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.600 only got normal nachos cheese. Yeah. Yeah. How did you feel after 92 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:16.879 that incredible meeting of culinary Uh? Pretty good? After forty Mickey's oh god, 93 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:23.040 and really firing on all cylinders and as much America as you can how 94 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:27.600 American pro wrestling fans do things. He was literally working stars and stripes pants 95 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.480 wait from the rubble, the same pants. It's not just from the rumble. 96 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.839 Many for many occasions, twenty pairs of stars and stripe pants because you 97 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:40.079 wear I have one pair now because the last pair got destroyed after years of 98 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.959 being caught on fire. Getten bicycle belt for two gears. I think I 99 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.519 was telling Drew about this. Yeah, I ran down the street in college 100 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:50.480 with lit Roman candles in the pockets and they they burnt through. So I 101 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:55.800 burnt my thighs and they destroyed my pants. Yeah who saw that comment? 102 00:06:55.879 --> 00:06:59.720 So yeah, excited by one when everskuy I wear the USA pants and any 103 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:06.319 forever life events, it's important really only of American heroes. Yes, yes, 104 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.959 no, no, they're come in handy wow. Whenever I skydive is 105 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:15.199 a sentence that not many people can say. Truth and Racord can. It's 106 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.279 thrill seeker. Yeah, and everything is up food. I don't have a 107 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.399 conclusive answer on the wasp isshue. I'm gonna go ahead and not eat them 108 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.720 until I get a conclusive answer. I found I've been eating wasps. I'm 109 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.240 during that upf you feel, Buy a fig and open it up, and 110 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.040 if there's no wasps inside, you could be fine. And a fig it's 111 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:33.800 just like a normal fruit thing that looks like an apple. Do you look 112 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.639 like an apple? It's kind of a it's a tear drop shape when it's 113 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.680 like brown and leathery like a pair. More so, they're small like a 114 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.360 prune. Yeah, they're kind of the size. I don't think've eaten a 115 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.240 prune and like a big raisin. Be carefully, we'll be tell you if 116 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.279 you ever tried to, if you never decide to sample a prune, doesn't 117 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:54.120 that make you all crappy? You should? Yes, tread lightly. I 118 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:57.399 would say, like two prunes and you're good. Oh it's a diuretic or 119 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.199 something. Is it's a diretic tea or laxative? Makes it crap? Yes? 120 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.959 Yeah, if you if you were to say, like sit down with 121 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.959 a bag of prunes and just snack. Oh yeah, because prune juice is 122 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:11.240 like that could just water. That could go poorly. Okay, you might 123 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.720 regret. That sounds like a challenge. I wouldn't know. Oh my god, 124 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.600 sounds like it sounds like premium content prune challenge. I do it, 125 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.959 sucking, let's do it. Oh my, I wonder how big? How 126 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.759 big a bag of prunes can you get? A costco? I totally do 127 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:30.360 that's fine. Oh my god, I don't like what I'm not even the 128 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.799 one offering myself up for sacrifice. I don't like where this is going. 129 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.000 I love four prunes. If you eat half a jar mayonnaise just a plane 130 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.600 No, absolutely not. Wait, your problem is that it would be plain. 131 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:43.399 I think I think he's allowed to eat it on whatever he wants as 132 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.720 long finishes read upon amount of mayonnaise. No, I'm not doing that. 133 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.879 I used to dare my friends, like, buy a five pound bag of 134 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.080 hot Tamala's and eat it all in like thirty minutes. My friend did it 135 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:58.799 once and then just puked up. Just this absolutely, Mike, Oh, 136 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.000 I never even told my triple mac and cheese story from college. I don't 137 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:07.799 know that it's happening. It's happening. I thought I thought that. Okay, 138 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:09.159 So Kraft macarunn and cheese is objectively one of the best foods. Are 139 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:13.480 we talking about Kraft Dinner? He is the most like that. You're talking 140 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.879 about the Blue Box, right, Yeah, that the classic Blue Box, 141 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.039 which is the standard things. It's it's the greatest thing in the world. 142 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.200 And I would always experiment with it and put just like way too much butter 143 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.759 in there, and it was super good, but there was always a finite 144 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.320 amount of that cheese until after I did this. The powder you can buy, 145 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.639 yeah, the powder you can buy separately now. But I thought, 146 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:31.320 like, well, man, when I put a ton of butter in, 147 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.159 it's great. What if I just put a ton of cheese in? And 148 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.080 so before I went to the bar one night in college, I bought three 149 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.399 boxes and I took all the powder from all three and put them all in 150 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.480 one thing of noodles. Wow, And I ate it and it was super 151 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.960 cheesy and super good. And I got to the bar and I had like 152 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:52.480 one schooner and just puked up like Nickelodeon orange, like fucking disgusting. Like 153 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.320 I tried to get to the bathroom. I think I mostly got in the 154 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.480 bathroom, but it was like Neon orange bullshit all over the bar floor. 155 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.240 Tell you about the substances you're putting in your body. I just I flew 156 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.919 too close to the sun. You know you're not the chorus of mac and 157 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:11.399 cheese. I guess that's one way to look at it. A wax stomach. 158 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:13.720 Hey, Danny, you are free and clear to talk about video games 159 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.960 now. Oh my god, let's move on. God. I was already 160 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.320 feeling ill before this podcast. I figured out how I can enjoy playing Destiny 161 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.720 because I don't. I'm a sociopath, Brad, I don't like that's not 162 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.279 true. I don't like playing with other people that much. I never got 163 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.879 Borderlands so much because I don't like having to like when I okay, when 164 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.600 I played World of Warcraft, I basically soloed. I did really slow. 165 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.320 I enjoyed the exploration and enjoyed the sort of lonely progression. I love games 166 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.639 like Fallout and Skim because I just enjoy being on my own in those worlds 167 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.440 and experiencing Destiny. Great game, you know, okay, you know, 168 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:50.600 not a great game. It's it's pretty, it's all right. I think 169 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.039 it's I think it's good. Whatever, it's you know, it's prelimited, 170 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.799 but whatever. I can see why people would like it. Who playing groups. 171 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.480 I don't necessarily do that. But I figured out a way of actually 172 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.720 enjoying it, and it's I did by accident because I was listening to if 173 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:03.919 x an album and I went, I'm gonna play some multiplayer because that's brainless 174 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.799 nonsense. And I went into the Crucible for a while and leveled up, 175 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.559 and I was like, oh, now I can like do all those missions 176 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.360 in the single player like slightly, I'm slightly like over levels for them and 177 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.120 it's really fun. So this was before well before you hit the level cap. 178 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.120 Oh, I'm like level nine or something. Yeah, that's how quickly 179 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.240 I got bored of Destinate. You played that game for like a whole day 180 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.120 though that was on someone else's on the internet. Was Yeah, that was 181 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.519 annoying. I had to restart when I started. That's a shame. So 182 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.559 it is. It is kind of an interesting system that they've got where you 183 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.159 can you're gaining the same experience in both modes, you know. Yeah, 184 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:37.799 whether whether you like Crucible is basically just straight up you know, traditional Bungee 185 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.799 multiplayer or you're doing the PV missions that it's quite a novel. It's like 186 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.320 it's like a weird experience the first time you actually because you know, there's 187 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:46.279 a little fan fair when you level up, you know, it's kind of 188 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:50.120 a flash of light and level up on the screen or whatever, and like 189 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.000 that happening in a multiplayer match is like kind of jarring, yeah, because 190 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.000 you don't think about gaining RPG levels in a deathmatch scenario and it happens ready 191 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:01.919 to be quickly considering you're basically just doing more player which, like you know, 192 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.279 you're guaranteed a certain amount of points in every game if you're playing to 193 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.919 a reasonable level. It'll always get captures, you will always get kills every 194 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.480 now and again, or at least assists. And they're pretty forgiving about that 195 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.840 stuff as Yeah, and loot drops at the end or really hopefully Oh yeah, 196 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:16.720 sorry, sorry, Yeah, I think a number of teammates will get 197 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.480 loot at the end of each match. Yeah, is it? Is it 198 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:22.360 more than just the guy who gets first? Oh, it has nothing to 199 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.080 do well, ostensibly, it has nothing to do with performance. Really, 200 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.159 you're talking about the dropping. Yeah, no, it's totally I really I've 201 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.200 gotten I've gotten a lot better. It's crucible, like I was finishing last 202 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.759 for the first couple of days I was playing it, and now I'm coming 203 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.840 in toward the top and then totally the same ana gootally anyway, totally the 204 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.679 same loot trop rates. I'm enjoying it a lot more as well, just 205 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.240 because I think the genuine shooting in the whatever campaign or whatever Destiny proper is 206 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:54.159 I find quite trice. Not really, it's not that clever. It's like 207 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.000 the alb and stuff. It's it's weird because the AI gets a lot more 208 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:00.000 active on the higher difficulties. Like I'm I'm pretty deep into the end game. 209 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.559 I'm almost level twenty five now. Uh. And when you start doing 210 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.440 the heroic like strikes some stuff, Yeah, you're doing level twenty four type 211 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.159 missions. Like the guys move around a lot more. They take cover a 212 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.879 lot more often. Like some of the late game enemies have stuff like jet 213 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:15.799 packs and they'll go flying all over the place, like they're guys with shields. 214 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.159 Not not energy shields, but like literal shields. Yes, I like 215 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.360 that stuff. And that was in Vain No, that was on Yeah, 216 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.039 yeah that sounds quite cool. But yeah, but you know, the stuff 217 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.399 starts getting a lot more, a lot more interesting. It just takes so 218 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.360 long to get interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. There's a grind, 219 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.039 and I know absolute inevitably be a grind in that game. That the 220 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.879 game is a bad grinding it is. It absolutely is. Like I it's 221 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.279 not defensible, like the game as as the endgame currently sits, like, 222 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.919 there's no way you can defend it. You can just like it or not. 223 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:45.399 Yeah, you know what I mean it's like, I I gotta like 224 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.759 it. What's that don't eat? Yep? Exactly? Do you like this 225 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.279 country? Hey, look, I'm sorry, I didn't know Pajamas was about 226 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:58.720 that way. Grand Christ America grinded, relieve it something like that. Yeah, 227 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.000 I've I've gotten really into the Destiny end games since the last podcast for 228 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.120 whatever reason, Like I had never ground. Can you say that ground ground 229 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.840 for loot? Yeah? In Diablo it's a past tensive grind. So yeah, 230 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.679 Like I was never the type of person to run, you know, 231 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.039 the same dungeon over and over and over looking for loot, but for some 232 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:16.600 reason in this game, I just keep coming back to play. You've run 233 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.399 the same dungeon. No, that's not the same thing, not even really 234 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:22.279 the same thing. That's every game of Doda is completely different. Do you 235 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.080 like the Ablo right? I do. So there's a certain part of you 236 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.000 that enjoys repetition and progression. Yeah, progressing in Scalan Doda and you're progressing 237 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.120 in acquisition sure, right, sure, But I mean Destiny is a situation 238 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:35.759 where by the time you get to the end of the game, by the 239 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:39.080 time you had the level cap, you've seen all the content. Yeah, 240 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:41.360 basically like I had a couple of strikes I hadn't done when I finished the 241 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.559 story. But like, if you decide, if you commit yourself to engaging 242 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:48.879 the end game in Destiny, you were going to play a bunch of content 243 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.639 you've already played over and over and over, and that's it. Like that's 244 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.720 all there is you can play. You can keep playing Crucible, or you 245 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.159 can keep playing the you know, the missions that are in there, and 246 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:00.559 they get harder and more interesting to play, but it's all if you've seen 247 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.559 I feel like the sort of grandiose talk that was about this game sort of 248 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:07.480 it was not particularly good for it in some way, or maybe I was 249 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.000 wrong in how I perceived it, but on the scale of like is this 250 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.320 a you know, very linear shooter with a sort of tight enough campaign too, 251 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.960 this is getting towards an MMO level of like do you remember that feeling 252 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.679 in Warcraft? Whereas no matter when you were playing Wow, you always felt 253 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.360 like there was nine hundred times more stuff happened. Oh that was like that 254 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.480 was amazing, Like the poll of World Warcraft was it just felt like there 255 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.600 was limitless possibility, like you could receive felt endless. Yeah, like you 256 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.039 couldn't. Yeah, you totally did not know where it would end, whereas 257 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.799 Destiny is like you were running through the same area as everything. That's fine, 258 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.480 that's the game that they made, but it wasn't the sort of experience 259 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.679 that I was expecting. Perhaps, I mean, there are even a lot 260 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.120 of little things they could have done within the framework of what they made that 261 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:50.879 would have made it better, and like different game modes or something, or 262 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.200 you know, even even having you spawned in you know, there's only four 263 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.679 major maps, and even having you spawned into each map in more than one 264 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.360 place. You know, it was supposed to starting in the exact in place 265 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.639 every time you go down to a planet. But I don't know. At 266 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.039 a certain point, I just was having so much fun shooting stuff in it 267 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.519 and grouping up with people and playing the harder and harder missions and like, 268 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:11.759 yeah, technically read about the sign it plays really well. And then once 269 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.600 you once you fully decide to learn how the endgame works, like you can 270 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.600 kind of see a logical progression to it, even though some of the drop 271 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:25.919 rates and like the way the loot works is kind of bullshit. But you 272 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.320 know, if you start grinding Faction rep if you look at like, okay, 273 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.480 I can earn, you know, a hundred of the Crucible currency a 274 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.039 week, one hundred of the Vanguard currency, you know, from the multiplayer 275 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.559 and the single player, Like you can see where you could come out the 276 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.200 other end with all the loot that you want and then move on to that 277 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:42.159 raid, which sounds like that raid sounds like what Destiny should be, top 278 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:47.639 to bottom. Yeah, Like I understand, I certainly understand siloing off some 279 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.519 of the best content for like the really hardcore endgame people. But the design 280 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:52.799 philosophy is I haven't seen it, you know. I've been kind of avoiding 281 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.759 specifics about it because I want to figure it out myself. But a lot 282 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:59.600 of the design philosophies you hear about in there, where they're like real environmental 283 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.440 puzzle and like multi stage boss fights where you really have to coordinate with people, 284 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.160 and they're like interesting dynamics to the way the game plays, like some 285 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.599 of that stuff. Yes, really, Yeah, there's like four bosses. 286 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:14.519 It's like a traditional MMO raid where they're like different wings to it with a 287 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.039 boss at the end of each part. And again I don't know a whole 288 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:21.079 lot of the specifics, but there are different Yeah, it's it's a whole 289 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.240 new map. It's all new bosses. But it's even a lot of like 290 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.519 again like environmental stuff, you know, like oh, you have to activate 291 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.799 three separate points on this map and hold them for x amount of time to 292 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.559 get this door to open, and stuff like that, like just stuff that's 293 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.839 not in the campaign at all. Yeah, it's like I really want to 294 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:37.640 play it. I mean, can you save in the middle of it? 295 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.000 Or is it okay you can't. Yeah, they're doing the MMO thing of 296 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.839 the fire team leader that goes in, like you just have him be the 297 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:47.079 fire team leader again or her? Do you need to you with that same 298 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:48.640 fire team Yeah, well I think it's just the leader. I'm not positive, 299 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:52.839 but they stressed like make sure the fire team leaders there because these raids 300 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.039 are like, wow, they're like MMO raids. They take Yeah, I 301 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.480 mean the first the first group to crack it, it took ten hours. 302 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.160 Wow, that's kind but that's you know, it's all world first, like 303 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.359 yeah, you know, nobody's done this before. It's and I think they 304 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.480 died like fourteen hundred times or something like that. In the final analysis, 305 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:08.359 it was like when MC became was this massive thing and then suddenly people were 306 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.720 doing it like in another time once went right, It's yeah, it's totally 307 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:14.440 I mean, in fact, like I had heard this before, but I 308 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.480 became acquainted with the term farm status as we were running a heroic strike the 309 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.720 other day, where it basically means an encounter is solved, right, Yeah, 310 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:23.920 like it's farmable. You know, it's like, oh, we know 311 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.319 how to do this, We're just gonna go in and do it. You 312 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.480 know, this is not super challenging now because we know what the particulars are, 313 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.839 which at a certain point just makes it start feeling like a job, 314 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:33.640 you know, yeah, because it's like, oh, I'm gonna go raid 315 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.680 tonight to try to get loot. But that also feels great because it's it's 316 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.759 the thing that used to be like instrumentable. It's and then suddenly you're really 317 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.279 good at it. It's not to jump off immediately. But I was playing 318 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.559 Phoenix Rage, which is that meat Boy. Well, I'm not sorry, 319 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.319 I don't want say it's not meat Boy game. It's it's it is the 320 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:56.440 easiest comparison something meat Boy, where the level that you think is completely impossible, 321 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.640 suddenly you were burning through and that's a really powerful like feeling in games 322 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.880 totally, Like I think you know as as you were right, it does 323 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:07.160 kind of make it when that stuff you reach that point, then it's all 324 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:08.039 to bay get into the next one and doing it again, right, But 325 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.319 that's great. And then you know they combine that in Destiny with the carrot 326 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:14.680 on a stick of better loot at the end. But I don't know some 327 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.319 of the some of the requirements for that stuff are so rigorous that like I 328 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:19.960 really want to play the game and get that stuff, but now other games 329 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:22.440 are coming out that we need a review and cover and stuff, and all 330 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.839 of a sudden, like I had all these ambitions for what I was going 331 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:27.839 to do in Destiny because they've got the weekly a lot amount of currency you 332 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.960 can earn and stuff, Like I was like, man, I love this 333 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.559 game. Of course I'm going to earn the maximum on both sides this week. 334 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.359 And like we're I think like eight hours away from the reset right at 335 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.799 the time this recording, and I'm not even like halfway there. Isn't that 336 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:44.279 big DSc happening around Christmas time? Yeah, the first expansions coming out in 337 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.799 December. You're going to be playing nash on your Christmas break. That's what's 338 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:49.319 gonna happen. Man, you're saying I'm not gonna get to play it until 339 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:52.960 then? No you Yeah, maybe, man, maybe they'll chop off. 340 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.640 Like the people I know they're on they're playing non stop every day, Like 341 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.960 I can't. I can't keep up with that anymore. Yeah, you don't 342 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.400 need to either. I feel myself falling behind. Mind though, I know 343 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:03.880 there are people that I was playing with they are now like three levels above 344 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.680 me. So I don't know just well, I mean, do you know 345 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.400 how the endgame works? Any of you guys know? It's some crazy thing 346 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.839 where you have to do math associated with your gear or something that's kinda not 347 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.319 exactly. I mean, there's no maths, there's a real math ata. 348 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.799 Has anybody hit the level cap? No, man, I'm talking the wrong 349 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:23.839 group of people. What's the highest is twenty five? Twenty is the cap? 350 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.920 Well? Yeah, but then you can do all the crazy stuff yellow 351 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.319 numbers, and so I believe the actual hardcap with gear is thirty. Okay, 352 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.119 I think the highest anybody's gotten is like twenty eight that I've seen. 353 00:20:34.160 --> 00:20:37.279 There might be thirties out there now but yeah, it's you know, it 354 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.359 all comes down to that stat called light that they introduce on end game gear. 355 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.720 But you know, at that point you are literally just hoping for good 356 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.519 drops, you know, so you are not leveling out. Well, no, 357 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:49.960 you're not listen to your XP turn into some other kind of current year 358 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:53.119 that turns into modes of light which you can spend on, like mostly trivial 359 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:59.359 stuff that doesn't really matter. Cool, it's all trivial stuff that doesn't say 360 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:06.599 that what is life does matter. Whole life is a lie. Now you're 361 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:10.240 you're earning the marks that I was talking about by playing multiplayer and the strike 362 00:21:10.319 --> 00:21:14.000 stuff, you know, like you can you can spend those on on gear 363 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:18.440 that is guaranteed to level you up. But we're talking like, god, 364 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.160 I don't know twenty hours, I am never gonna get that stage. I'm 365 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:22.319 okay with that. I'm just estimating. I don't know. I've played a 366 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.839 bunch and I have like a decent amount of that stuff, but not enough 367 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:32.160 to buy what I really need. I wonder what assigning rewards to the multiplayer 368 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:37.039 does for people in terms of the way that they think about it and approach 369 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.480 it, because like if I if if that had been there for Halo three, 370 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.440 I don't know if I would have played a lot more of it or 371 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:48.960 a lot less of it. I bet it stops people from thinking that multiplayer 372 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.599 is a waste, yes, like absolute, from thinking I could be leveling 373 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:55.160 off. Yep, it's that's like that? Or does it put a cap 374 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.240 on it? It's like, you are you need to play so much of 375 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:03.400 this it's it's worthless to even start well. From a broad perspective, it's 376 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.920 nice that you can do either one. You know. It's like, oh, 377 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:08.799 I'm tired of running strikes, so I'm gonna go play some crucible right 378 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.880 and always feel like you're making some meaningful progress. But the way they have 379 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.359 divided those two things, you earn different currency from the two sides, and 380 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:19.000 they can't be combined. They can't even be spent at the same vendor, 381 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:23.559 So in a way, you're still kind of working against yourself when you switch 382 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.039 from one to the other. Like if you truly want to minimax your gear, 383 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.200 you'll focus on one or the other and justus do that, right, 384 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.200 Like they want you to be invested in your character in that world, like 385 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.559 this is a game, this is a ten year contract doctor, they can't 386 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.519 have a bungee, Like they want people to be invested in that ecosystem as 387 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.079 much as possible. It's like it's like all that Halo stuff they're doing with 388 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.640 the crazy Halo app and like they are so into just you are a Destiny 389 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.839 player. Hey, when Call of Duty comes out in a couple of months, 390 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:51.720 you know you're gonna want to level opped up that and they're probably gonna 391 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.000 shoot at a bunch more extrallentle bits on there. Like I bet the first 392 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:59.559 weekend the college comes there, they'll be like double XP land on Destiny or 393 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.599 some sort of them. That's all. That's all activision kind of working against 394 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:04.160 itself though, But oh yeah, that's good pointing. You know, I 395 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.400 don't know a Call of Duty's gonna sell to the people it sells too, 396 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.759 and that'll be fine. I mean, Destiny almost appeals to kind of a 397 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.920 different crowd, right, And I think first person people people I know who 398 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.319 are really into Destiny or not, people I traditionally think of as a big 399 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:21.359 Call of Duty. How many teenagers? You know? I know tons of 400 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:22.759 people that love Halo and Call of Duty. You know, I don't think 401 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.519 they're exclusive but I don't think they're selling Destiny too. I think they're like, 402 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.519 maybe I'm super being reductive about this, but I think they're selling this 403 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.759 to kids, like not to two younger players really because this is their IP. 404 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:37.000 It's like they grew up watching their older brothers and sisters nain games like 405 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.079 Halo Called of Duty, and this is their IP, their first. They're 406 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.640 like online connected worlds, like all these post Minecraft kids who are like turning 407 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.519 thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. It's going to be around for ten years. 408 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.000 Nobody says they're gonna make three games on a ten year deal unless they're targeting 409 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:55.559 young people who are going to have money by the time it's over. People 410 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.880 gonna buy into it and stick with it. Yeah, like maybe they're not 411 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:00.000 going to target, you know, people in their late twenties. And third, 412 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:02.319 if they think it's going to be like a ten year thing, everyone's 413 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:04.279 gonna get married and have kids and get all boring. Destiny is not a 414 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.119 game to play if you have responsibilities. Also true? Yeah, Like that's 415 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:12.599 absolutely true. Either is dotat, Either is video. Yes, there you 416 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.640 go. That's why I played a bunch of indie stuff this weekend. Yeah, 417 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.880 I felt a little bit better about Yeah, like what Never Ending Nightmares 418 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:22.720 is that? That was a kickstarter right, Yes, And I should say 419 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.680 upfront I actually did drap money in on that one, all right, full 420 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.079 disclosure disclosure was that the don't tell me I think I got this? Was 421 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.599 that the Retrograde guy. Yes, Yes, Matt Gillenbach. So he made 422 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:37.839 that game Retrograde, which was a sort of a like bullet Hell you could 423 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:42.200 use a guitar. Yeah, traditional scrolling shooter totally bombed. Yeah, he 424 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.960 walked on it for about four years maybe longer. Five did not was not 425 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:52.880 commercially successful. And he's an interesting dude who kind of like I've like I 426 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:55.759 have done videos about mental health and stuff like I have a history of the 427 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.200 depression and OCD and whatnot. He's clearly had his own stuff as well, 428 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.400 and after that game tanked, he had a kind of a pretty bad dark 429 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.480 period in his life. So he's come out with this game. It's out 430 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.880 on Friday, I think, really the final version, Yes, dusted. 431 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.200 I'm not actually sure how much may I talk about it, so I'll just 432 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:18.359 keep it pretty vague. But it's basically like a really well drawn have you 433 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.279 seen any art first? It's like sketch art, but it's fantastic. I 434 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.200 think it's kind of monicomatic black and white, yeah, and then there's there's 435 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:27.200 like elements of like red coming through, and the interactive stuff is in color. 436 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.279 It is one of those games where you just need to put your headphones 437 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.519 on, turn off the lights, and just run with it, like a 438 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.440 sort of a if you're like picking up a movie you're not really sure about. 439 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.960 And I don't really think it will necessarily be to everyone's taste, but 440 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.680 the people that resonates with it will resonate pretty hard. Like it's the imagery 441 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:47.920 and the like. The sound design is great, the music is great. 442 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.559 It's all about repetition. It's never ending nightmares. You literally like are going 443 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.240 through sort of similar areas. It's like repeating and getting worse and worse. 444 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.640 And it's one of those games where I feel like at moments I was like 445 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.920 I stuck. It keeps repeating itself, but then you're getting more and more 446 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.599 tense and more and more freaked out by the experience. It's very effective. 447 00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.119 It sounds kind of like PT as far as like the repetition and just doing 448 00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.599 things over and over and very unsettling or whatever. Is it that same thing 449 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.680 to where you're going through the exact same environment over and over and certain elements 450 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.519 are changing. It's the yes, exactly. I'm getting worse. I'm getting 451 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.759 individuals because they're sort of, you know, it's cartoon sketch kind of stuff, 452 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:33.359 very minimalist, very well drawn, but when they do something that's really 453 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.079 kind of quite ghastly, it's really quite ghastly. Like there's there are I 454 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.079 don't want to say, I feel like there's a game people who's just play 455 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:41.799 and not not not even watch a trailer, just kind of check it out. 456 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.440 What is it though? Is it an adventure game? I mean, 457 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:48.160 how are you so it's a two D Get reductive here? Okay, it 458 00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.359 is a side scrolling it's an adventure game. I guess you're controlling this one 459 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.599 individual who's waking up in his bed and is walking outside the door, and 460 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:02.759 you're basically moving from whole way to room inside of this house, presumably his 461 00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:08.119 house, looking for his sister, who he's worried is dying. He's got 462 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:12.559 asthma, so you can't really run that long. There's a there's a hardly 463 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.880 any buttons in the game. There's one to interact and then one to basically 464 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.720 run. When you run and he starts like wheeze and stop. And there 465 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.519 are certain times in the game where you have to like avoid elements within the 466 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.480 world which are trying to hurt you or whatever, monsters or stuff like that, 467 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.240 or the darkness, which is another thing. If you go into the 468 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.160 darkness, it will kill you. Wouldn't say you get like you pick up 469 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.119 a lamp a light and you can walk around with that, and the light 470 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:38.200 stuff where you pick up an axe and you can use it to break down 471 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.480 the door. But those interactive points are quite few and far between. It's 472 00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:47.960 mostly about the sort of empty space between them and how you react like to 473 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.200 that. So it's it's it's a linear I think there's something like I don't 474 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.519 know how many of the nightmares there are, but they I have been. 475 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.440 I've gone through like processes where I'm inside of this house for quite a while 476 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.559 and then something awful happens to suddenly I wake up in a different environment, 477 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.200 and then I'm in there for a while. And it's a hard game to 478 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:11.680 sort of It's it's unsettling, and I'm only about halfway through at the moment, 479 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.119 but I've I've enjoyed it because it's just like these types of games don't 480 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.799 come around very often where they're not necessarily just trying to entertain you constantly and 481 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:26.480 you know, fancy explosions or even just like placate you. Like this is 482 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.519 a game that has been very much made in his image for to express how 483 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.319 he feels about something, so you can sort of like whether or not you 484 00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:37.440 actually like it or not, it's kind of secondary. I feel like it's 485 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:42.279 it's you're really what you're really like exploring it to to get something back out 486 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.079 of it, kind of like stuff like Journey, where you know you're going 487 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.400 to set aside a couple of hours play this thing and then go all right, 488 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.480 yeah, I mean from that, it's kind of an element of the 489 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:52.680 otur about it, right, yes, Like like you know, it's the 490 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:57.559 output of one person kind of like all of their sensibilities and and and feelings 491 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.240 and hang ups and whatever kind of man in this thing. Like that's you 492 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:06.160 know, not something you see that much games because they're they generally require so 493 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.200 many different people with different ideas to bring about. And I appreciate love it, 494 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:15.559 especially because I'm definitely an advocate for people talking about mental health issues or 495 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.799 talking about their own experiences, or at least like opening up to it. 496 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.960 And I I am very happy that And this is the reason why I because 497 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.200 I tend not to throw money behind kickstarters because as a you know, working 498 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.000 in the games press, it seems like a little bit of a conflict. 499 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.920 But for this one, because it's so dear to my heart with that sort 500 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.319 of stuff I was, and because he had had such a failure before and 501 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.960 this game was barely funded like it got I think within the last twenty four 502 00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:41.440 hours. I remember the day, I remember the push for it, yeah 503 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.720 before it did it. And the hope is that perhaps this will help people 504 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:51.720 come to terms or start a communication with themselves about that sort of stuff. 505 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:56.079 And as a game, yeah, I found experienced one so far. Anyway, 506 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.599 I have to check that out. Yeah, I paid the kickstarter just 507 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.200 well, don't I'm not. I'm not getting any money from it. I'm 508 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.079 not getting any money from it. Good, you're playing the game video games. 509 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.559 So it's out the backers. Now, I assume I don't know. 510 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.440 I got a copy because we're gonna maybe do something on it. Okay, 511 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.440 we'll see maybe someone else will. I'm not reviewing it, all right, 512 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.799 I pay Phoenix Rage as well. Yeah, yeah that's great. Yeah, 513 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:19.480 I've had my eye on that. I've played in the packs. Uh, 514 00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:23.079 it's absolutely you know, the meat Boy comparison to spot On. You know, 515 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.119 it's not a clone, but there are some more elements. You're your 516 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:32.279 sprite is tiny, tiny little dude running around these big kind of labyrinthine Yeah, 517 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.240 two D platforming levels, a lot more mechanics in terms of being able 518 00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.160 to like you can double jump and like a dash and stuff. Right, 519 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.960 you guys paid this at all? It's not it's is it the meat Boy 520 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:41.759 developers? No? No, no, no, no, okay. And 521 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:47.720 I bet I bet the developers are sick of people saying meat Boy there easiest 522 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.559 Touchstone. It's maybe my guy from Brazil. I think I think that's the 523 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.400 case. Yeah, and PC. I'm playing on Steam on PC. I 524 00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.039 think I think it's only out on PC. At first, it's a two 525 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.880 D control, a little kind of thing that almost looks like a square. 526 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.480 It's way faster though, and you if there's a start point than an end 527 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.319 point, and if you get to it and it's difficult and it starts out 528 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:11.079 at the start, being like, you know you will die and it responds 529 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.000 you instantly. It's I'm sold already. Yeah, that sounds great. Time. 530 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.119 You can tell he's been making this game for a while because it feels 531 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:25.000 like that. And I played End Plus Plus as Packs Ease, Our Packs 532 00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:29.599 Prime. I just love these games so much. Real difficult to d Like 533 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.519 one little level and then you're on to the next one. You're like, 534 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.119 god damn it and you put it down and then you're like one more. 535 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.519 I mean, there's there's there's nothing like that super hard game that controls exactly 536 00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.200 like you wanted to, right, you know what, you know what I 537 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:41.880 mean, like when you never feel like you're fighting the controls and then everything 538 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.400 is your fault exactly every time you die, you're just mad at yourself, 539 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.319 right, And it's not easy to do. And that's why Super Me Boy 540 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.240 it was probably so successful because yeah, you never felt like it was the 541 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.799 game letting you down. And this one's called Phoenix Rage. Phoenix Rage. 542 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:59.119 Yeah, okay, I'm gonna get that. Yeah, I think at the 543 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:01.160 ni Yeah, okay, it kind of looks like a little Sonic dude. 544 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.039 Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, I need to check that out. But 545 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.000 yeah, I'm also not sure if that's out yet or if I should be 546 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.759 talking about it. Sorry, really did when you came in here? Yeah, 547 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:13.319 hey, let me talk you about that new rock Star game. You're 548 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:20.400 gonna whoa just like just jack booted thugs coming here, Noir club us and 549 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:22.920 drag us out of here? Oh? Is that it? Pretty much? 550 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.240 What am I gonna have to do to convince you to play Destiny with me? 551 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.519 You're not Are you ever even gonna make it? In the level cap 552 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.119 I played with the Nest. With the Nest, I played with Alexis a 553 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.839 little bit okay, Yeah, I've been playing with him so yeah, he's 554 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.599 got like three characters based on different friends he has that are at different levels 555 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.680 kind of smart. Yeah, I guess he plays a lot. I don't 556 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.960 know. I yeah, I don't know. I mean, if you're not 557 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.119 down for that lud grind, like you're not, I'm really not. You're 558 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.079 not gonna get anything out of the end game. Even in Wow. When 559 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.400 I got to like level forty five, every rolled Yeah, that's That's the 560 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.799 weird thing is that I did the same thing. I played a character like 561 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.480 up to not even sixty, like right year sixty when it first came out 562 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.400 and then started another character Like, I had no interest in grinding gear and 563 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.119 attunement and going to raid and stuff. But I mean, this game is 564 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.400 basically the same thing. But for some reason, I'm totally into that stuff. 565 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.720 I don't know that just that raid sounds so cool. I really want 566 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:14.279 to see it. We will see look it up on YouTube. Is the 567 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.480 internet. But I need whatever probably scree shot and jomp on it. I 568 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:22.880 need whatever Looke comes out at the end. Drew, Yes, Hello, 569 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:29.680 Hello, what's up? Oh you know do huge? Yeah? The Huge? 570 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.119 Yeah? Such as game wise, I think it's just been you know 571 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.240 destiny. Yeah, how far in are you? I'm like ten? Really? 572 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.039 Ten? Yeah? Sure, like the bungee guy. I thought you 573 00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:44.039 would attack that vigorously. I have been, Yeah, I just haven't had 574 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:47.200 a lot of free video game time. That's what happens when you do other 575 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.799 things with your life besides video games. Yeah. I eat Greek food. 576 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.000 It's pretty much all. I did this again. I went to a Greek 577 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:58.119 festival morning at night. Just non stoff, you never never ceased putting food 578 00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:02.519 in your mouth. Only the only real big point of interest what Greek food. 579 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.160 Did you eat? It was at a It was a It was a 580 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.840 fundraiser for a Greek church. I don't know. They just it's free. 581 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.760 They they do this every year. They invite you and you go into their 582 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:21.119 like church, their basketball into their basketball court in their church. Wow, 583 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.159 they have food around the outside. Do you just pay like seven bucks per 584 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.880 item? Load up? Is it just hummus? They have uzzo? Oh 585 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.599 so good? Why was there a basketball court in this church? We you 586 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.159 never met a church? Yeah? Are we doing America? Yeah? Okay? 587 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.679 On Michael, Jordan's so popular, it's actually the second Coming of Christ. 588 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.559 Whoa Hachimio? Ali? Juan was Judas? I don't even know who 589 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.119 that is. I think you're you're officially more American Ryan. I only know 590 00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:57.079 who's which. Jordan was not in Oh, Jordan's not in jams like any 591 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.679 of them, any of the jams. Jordan. No, he had his 592 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.719 own Players Association license or whatever. Really he would always sell his own game. 593 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:07.280 So that means like business wise, that means if you got the NBA 594 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.880 player license like that included everybody but him. I think so, because yeah, 595 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:15.760 the Bulls had like Grant Pippin. I'm sure Jordan was in one of 596 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.360 them. I mean maybe later on, but I mean, if we're talking 597 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:22.880 Classic NBA JAM and then Tournament Edition, I'm almost certain he's not. I 598 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.079 thought it was. In fact, Shack was only in like one of him. 599 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.360 I think like Tournament Edition. He might have had his own deal too 600 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.480 for one of them. Maybe we got him in Europe, had the International 601 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.199 Michael Jordan Rice. He had Chaos in the Windy City and Supernintendo throwing flaming 602 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.119 basketballs at bats and a hunted house. That sounds all right, he gets 603 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.000 like ice balls and yeah, you just don't get those anymore. That's really 604 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:45.840 terrible like that. I never read Michael Jackson the movie What was it that 605 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.880 gis game? Yeah, gets Moonwalker nothing, but imagine if like Mighty Cyrus 606 00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:57.639 put out a game which she was knocking in buildings the thing. Yeah you're 607 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.760 yere, Paris Hilton's Jeweled Jam. I saw. I saw a headline yesterday 608 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.719 the Kim Kardashian game makes seven hundred thousand dollars per day, per day, 609 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:14.039 hugely successful. Seven hundred thousand dollars per day. Yeah, fucking scoops. 610 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.960 Huh. Yeah, that's where all the celebrity the pop star games are showing 611 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:22.360 up now and that makes sense. Yeah, and I know what we know 612 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.280 what Don's I'm playing on weekend? Yeah yeah, Spice World on PlayStation one. 613 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.599 Just reminding me of all that absurdity. Now, dance Beat, I 614 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.639 wish that stuff was still around. Man, what was the worst one? 615 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.760 There was never any like boy band like n Syncer Backstreet Boys existed, but 616 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.199 there was, but there was a rhythm game. There were some board games 617 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.519 maybe like board games and stuff. But do you know about Mavis Beacon is 618 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:50.199 not a real person. Yeah she's not. No, No, that persons 619 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.119 not existing. Are you just now finding that out? Yeah, she's a 620 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.880 character. I was more of a typing of the dead guy anyway. Typing 621 00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.519 the Dead's awesome. I love I bought the Dreamcast keyboard for that. It's 622 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:04.920 so good. Yeah. I even liked that new one kind of yeah, 623 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.760 same thing, it was, okay. Speaking of weird old nineties PlayStation one 624 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:15.559 games, Dan and I recorded a behemoth of our feature demo Derby. Yes 625 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:22.039 that many many Xbox were PlayStation one games. It was a PlayStation underground thing. 626 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.719 So it was a two disc which like that you haven't seen the feature. 627 00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:29.400 Dan and I take old demo discs from like the magazine days and just 628 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:31.360 pop them in and go, what's this. Ye jam packs like toys, 629 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.880 r us and pizza head disks and stuff like that, and people have sent 630 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.239 us a ton of them. Oh yeah, we have a giant stack and 631 00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:40.159 this one was a treasure. Like I remember most of those we used to 632 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.079 got just we're just trailers and stuff. A lot of them are. In 633 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:45.599 fact, there are a lot of videos. There was a lot of It 634 00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:50.639 was like it would be like four videos, like eight to ten demos, 635 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.599 and then there was a whole disc on this one of like documentary features, 636 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.880 which was the most fascinating parts. Yeah, they're very nineties. Keep seeing 637 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.159 that frame grab of Shoohito sheet of floating around. Yeah, discovered what game 638 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.360 was that that he was? He was like, he's talking about ap Escape 639 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.000 Connected producer at that point, I think, I think you're talking about ap 640 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:08.320 Escape. Okay. I saw in the background, I couldn't tell what it 641 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:13.119 was. They're interviewing people and they're describing things that they think are cool as 642 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:21.079 diesel and that games Dieselow's pretty sweet. All the sas were spelled disease like 643 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:25.760 news and reviews and every single like menu screen just look like a vomit of 644 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.079 a trapper keeper head vomited on and there was a whole thing with like forty 645 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:36.679 products, like here's a crash Bandicoot turtleneck. Yeah, it was awesome late 646 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.760 now he just really were a tragic time for a culture. Yeah, I'm 647 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.159 loving that feature. Yeah, that was the best one. I'll check that 648 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:44.480 out. Yeah yeah, but I really like seeing that, you know, 649 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.039 just in case you didn't think shoe was legit. Yeah, the man totally 650 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:53.119 climbed through the ranks. Do you remember we were talking about stunts on UPF 651 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.280 that like a car game. So somebody tweeted me apparently done. Matric was 652 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.199 like, wow, guy, okay really yeah yeah, so he made his 653 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.239 way through the run. He found it. Yeah, he founded a I 654 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.519 cannot remember the name of it. He founded like a small studio, you 655 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:09.639 know what, I'm small. And that's how he got in the Developer when 656 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:14.159 he was like nineteen or something. He's like cliff Zins geeks. Yeah, 657 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.119 and then they got bought by EA, like pretty quickly. I think that's 658 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.000 how he got into EA and kind of went from there. So crazy, 659 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.519 everybody's gonna start somewhere. Where is he now, zinga? Oh yeah, 660 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:28.599 running zinga all this fine zinga products that you hear about flipping his hair over 661 00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.440 his zinga. All right, he's up, Hi, you're ready to keep 662 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.159 talking a bit video games and other stuff like the ones that Dan Reichords has 663 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.559 been playing. Oh yeah, I've been playing an awful lot of Super Smash 664 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:45.599 Brothers for three DS. Right, but I can't talk about right we are 665 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.039 squarely getting into that period of the time, or of the period of the 666 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:52.000 year. Now, yep, so that has taken up most of my time. 667 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:58.519 You can talk about the content that was in the unfinished we posted. 668 00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.280 That's true, we had that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean you 669 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.000 know that's on the site. We've got We've got that unfinished, and then 670 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.039 that same week we also played a bunch on on Professional Friday. Yeah. 671 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.920 Yeah, So there's there's a good bit of footage of the three guess version 672 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.320 of Ye Smash on the website. It is. But so you're playing the 673 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.920 full version now, Yes, I've got the review build. Yeah. Games, 674 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559 games are just about to start hitting fast and furious. I'm I'm I'm 675 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.519 fairly deep into the shadow of mortor Oh really, I just kind of talk 676 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.280 about that and talk about that either close. It's one of those where, 677 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.840 you know, the the bargo falls at such a time that it's like if 678 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.840 we'd had a couple more days, it might have been able to you know. 679 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:40.239 Does that come out next week? Uh? Yeah, up, yes 680 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.599 it does. I can't talk about fates forever. You're right, I'm not 681 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:52.400 gonna allow you moving on Forts out on is soonish horizon too. I think 682 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.599 it's your I think it might be the same. It's next week, as 683 00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.079 I think it. I think Forts and the Shadow of Mortar are the same 684 00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.400 day. Uh and then yeah, words in it after that, that's the 685 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.840 last day of September. I believe the silly season. Yeah, and then 686 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:13.440 like god Drive Club and Alien Isolation and I said, Overdrive and Duty have 687 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.559 fun with that, you guys Call of Duty? Oh yeah, nice Later 688 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:22.440 and trying to think October was super heavy. Well, in fact, like 689 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:24.719 October the seventh had like five games or something, but they've all moved. 690 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.519 Uh yeah, that's November. Unity and Rogue coming out of the Road come 691 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:36.960 out the same day, delayed being if it happened in the last like five 692 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.679 days, then okay, hopefully based on my comments on the legitimacy of that 693 00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:45.440 Irish character. Wait, Patrick Karmick, what I played the trailer for Assassin 694 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.360 Screed Rogue to my family when I was home in Ireland, okay, and 695 00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.280 they laughed three seconds in okay? With his accent? Is there is there 696 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.760 a prominent Irish he does not send? He's also wasn't born in Ireland. 697 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.480 From what I talked to developers, he's estranged father was here. So I 698 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.000 don't even know talking about the voice, actor or the character the character. 699 00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.360 Okay, So I don't even know how it's got an Irish accent when people 700 00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.119 in Ireland are trying to do an accent of an American person. This happens 701 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:13.440 all the time, it does. Yeah, can you humor me? No? 702 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.599 No, come on, just pick a state. There are something we 703 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.199 already gave you, our our finest irish. I didn't I do like a 704 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:25.440 really bad like New Yike one before, like a cartoonish like I can do 705 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.599 mine. It's like whatever John Oliver would try to do like an American voice 706 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.119 like I did. It's southern. I did the House of CODs one, 707 00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.079 Yeah, but I can't you did that was a pretty good one. House 708 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.039 of CODs. What was it was like the time I got done. But 709 00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.000 but I mean even even his accent in the show was such put on, 710 00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.360 you know, yeah, like I'm from that region and like, come on, 711 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.400 man, nobody talks like that. It's like Carnetti in the Wire right 712 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.039 with little Finger doing it. Yeah, oh yeah, I can't. Well, 713 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.599 that's why I'm going to Kansas with you for Thanksgiving so I can figure 714 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.639 out. You have people in Middle America speak finally, learn a lot about 715 00:42:55.639 --> 00:43:00.360 Middle America and East and live and love and die. But if Don is 716 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.079 any stable, then I guess we're just gonna have taco about in forties. 717 00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.360 And I mean we're gonna be drinking. We're gonna be drinking with my dad. 718 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.440 So I mean we are certainly going to be going to talk about like 719 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.239 three in the morning, like pretty much every night. That is, every 720 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.840 single time, three in the morning. Oh oh yeah, this is the 721 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:17.000 one right next to the rebel. Still there's still time to a board. 722 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.320 No it is not. No, No flights are booked. Cost flights almost 723 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.639 cost as much as my flights home for Christmas, Mike's record family Thanksgiving. 724 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.800 I can't wait. Okay, all right, we wish you the best. 725 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.800 Maybe we got some plans I will you know, I'll pray for you. 726 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.679 Got save your soul. Thank you? Uh Dan. If you played in 727 00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.440 the games, you can talk about. I'm still working through Rogue Legacy, 728 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.679 Okay. I think I'm at the point now to where I'm about to beat 729 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:44.599 it. I've eaten three of the bosses and even going down through that like 730 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:46.840 hell area or whatever. Now I'm kind of tromping through everything. But like 731 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:50.639 I'm wearing all the like you know, gold farming stuff right now. So 732 00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.480 I'm sure once I switched over to the ruins that were for combat and stuff, 733 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.199 I can probably just like Vampire and stuff like that. I don't have 734 00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:58.960 Vampire on. I just have all the like Sage Cape and the Sage Sword 735 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.760 and all the gold stuff. So like my dude is literally gold and I'm 736 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.679 getting like twenty five twenty six gold for every coin, which lord ten Yeah 737 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.199 what's the Sage stuff too. It just it adds ten percent gold bonus from 738 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.719 the piece you have on. Okay, So like if I have a Splunker 739 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.360 or whatever and all this Sage stuff on that, I'm just making like crazy 740 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.679 money. Yeah, and it's I almost just don't want it to end. 741 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.039 I'm just having so much fun with it. It's a great mindless thing for 742 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.239 like, if I'm just watching something on my laptop or something, and the 743 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.599 cross stuff on Vita is fantastic. So I'm doing that still, going through 744 00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.239 mettal gear, keeping up with word Drew's at yep, so doing that on 745 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.039 my Vita. Other than that, just drinking a bunch of beer. I 746 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.039 drank a bunch of beer with Daniel Dwire Andrew this week. Yeah. Yeah, 747 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:44.960 it's karaoke when I fun. You are always welcome to come drink with 748 00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.039 that, all right, you come on out likes for humoring. No, 749 00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.800 I mean that I'm get drunk. Uh, I am looking at it about 750 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.320 two and a half weeks of bachelorhood. Okay, right now, you can 751 00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.679 find things to do if you like. You can. You can fill that 752 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.000 with this in the other other half is out of the country for a while. 753 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.559 You can fill that with radio Gaga. Did you do Radio Gaga? 754 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:07.480 We did Blinded by the Light, right, we did? That was fun. 755 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.440 Yeah. I picked a really high key and then had to stick with 756 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.960 it, even though my voice went off at the first first. It was 757 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.559 great, and so I don't know, and I guess in England whenever went 758 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.639 like karaoke in London. It's like the sort of Japanese style where you get 759 00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.280 a booth and you like a bunch of people chip in and you you sing 760 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.280 with your friends. Two. I'd never done the open mic thing before, 761 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.239 just in front of a bunch of people. Where'd you guys go? What's 762 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.119 it called encore karaoke lounge? Wait till Kansas? When we go to the 763 00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:35.199 Red Balloon. It's a bar used to be called Dirty Herveis. It is 764 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:37.880 where my mom and it's where my mom and my dad met. Like my 765 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.559 DNA is just in those shitty you know, pool table karaoke stage. Like 766 00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.440 I literally wouldn't exist, Like anything that you've just said in the last of 767 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.920 his DNA is still on the pool, Like every sentence is worse than the 768 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.199 last. No, I literally wouldn't exist without Dirty Herveys and Shawnee Kansas. 769 00:45:55.239 --> 00:45:59.519 I just can't stop hearing that right out of Switzer. It's my favorite bar 770 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.840 in the world. We also went to a bar before that. It was 771 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.760 showing movies. Oh Cozy car Yeah, on the wall on the TVs. 772 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.639 It was just showing movies and then like every once in a while, tod 773 00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:15.000 be like like two seconds of hardcore pornography, and then we'll go back to 774 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.400 the movie. And so they air like old seventies movies and like old seventies 775 00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.440 commercials and stuff, and so you'll be watched like that's the things you take 776 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.360 people that don't know what the gimmick of this place is. And so you're 777 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.519 just watching like all these old like silly commercials and things like that, and 778 00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.000 then it's like dap, there's a money shot for two seconds and then up 779 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:35.440 back to This thing isn't like vintage seventies porn. It's like modern internet cozy 780 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.360 Cark with a k K o z y huh. It's right around the corner 781 00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.920 from Soda Popenskis and Oncork Carrier. This is becoming one of my favorite corners 782 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.239 in San Francisco. Like I feel like I might have ended up there one 783 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:45.880 night when I was in a state where I wouldn't really remember being that this 784 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:52.480 sounds really familiar. It's called a record district. It never leaves hastily renamed 785 00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.800 once I'd become mayor. Yeah, it was great, God, yeah, 786 00:46:54.840 --> 00:47:00.519 oh god, I think I'd be a good that's dan Rycord. That like 787 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.480 that sound. That really is your ultimate destiny is I think? So I 788 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.920 can already picture the campaign things. I'm gonna run on the shut up everything's 789 00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:12.079 fine ticket them. I don't that's get a lot of shut up everything's fine. 790 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:14.239 I'll know that you'll get a lot of traction with that. Just do 791 00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.000 it on the Jose can sego as a small penis ticket that that that might 792 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:21.519 get you some mile. Yeah, okay, that's good too. Would you 793 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:22.920 would you want to be the mayor of a big city or would you go 794 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:29.239 to like small town Midwest? I My lust for power knows no bounds. 795 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.039 Okay, President, so you're going all the way to the White House? 796 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.320 I probably could. Yeah, Yeah, I think I could. I take 797 00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:37.519 it. Just if I wanted to get something done, I usually get it 798 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:38.519 done. So all right, I just right now, I just kind of 799 00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.440 want to play games and just drink beer. So I'm doing pretty good, 800 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.519 right vote. Yeah, you just seem to be accomplishing a lot on that 801 00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:50.960 front. Yeah, so you know, but that was a great weekend. 802 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:54.079 That was fun. It was that plays had the perfect mix of people who 803 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:59.920 take this way too seriously I'm like, are they just like performing? Yeah, 804 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:04.800 that's like going somewhere and singing and being part and just drunk lads singing 805 00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.519 like rap songs with lyrics they really should not be singing. Yeah, it 806 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.880 was like you could never tell. It was like a real mixed bag of 807 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:14.760 people getting up on the stage. That. Those are my favorite kind of 808 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.840 bars, just like just every kind of person like you'll you'll see the red 809 00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.039 balloon it is. Yeah, I've seen people get slammed through tables. I've 810 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.400 seen knife fights. My dad is always excited when he goes out back to 811 00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.880 smoke because every once in a while he'll see some frogs fucking back there. 812 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.360 He'll run into the barn. There's some frogs fucking back there. And then 813 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.760 people go out there and to smoke and watch frogs. Fuck. I guess 814 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.559 what you do in Kansas. I kind of tell you excited. I'm for 815 00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:42.880 Thanksgiving. I think I need another break. Oh boy, wow, you'll 816 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.199 hear a lot of stories about that place when you're there, Dan anything, 817 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.599 there's a lot of unrepeatable ones. I might just watch. I just wear 818 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.880 google glass and twitch. Oh yeah, that'll go over great. Do you 819 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.280 think anybody out there knows what it is though, no, like they have 820 00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:59.039 Google Fiber there and no one knows. Yeah, I hate it because I 821 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:01.000 want that so bad. And I talked to so many people back in Kansas 822 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:02.920 and I'm like, you should get this. Like, I know my internet 823 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.280 works fine, which somehow my dad's actually signing up for it now, which 824 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.159 I can't believe. So what is your dad gonna do with gigabit fiber? 825 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:16.039 Well, I can I can answer that question. Oh boy, I don't 826 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:23.440 think you need to stories. I can't say you're right. I'm just gonna 827 00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:28.039 stop that, right, you absolutely cannot. Oh boy, all right, 828 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:32.320 Well if that was your weekend, yeah, yeah, you know, for 829 00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.960 me, it's pretty much just been grinding in Destiny. I'm deciding, Like 830 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:38.920 even now, I'm sitting here thinking it's like, all right, I have 831 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.559 I'll have like three or four hours after I get home before I go to 832 00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.079 bed. A multiplayer match is like ten to fifteen minutes. I get three 833 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:51.840 marks, I need like sixty to hit the cap for the week. How 834 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:53.639 much time is it gonna take? Has this taken out of your like Doda? 835 00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.440 Dude, I've barely played Doda since Destiny came out. Wow? Yeah, 836 00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.199 I finally did play a sum this weekend. I'm starting to get back 837 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.119 to it a little bit. But no, I haven't touched Diablo either since 838 00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:06.039 Destined. I mean they kind of scratched the same itch. That's the whole 839 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:07.199 thing. You know. It's like they both you know, for better or 840 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:12.559 worse, Like one of them gives you loot kind of fires the dopamine response 841 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.960 way more often than the other one. But I mean, maybe this is 842 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:19.719 some weird Stockholm syndrome, But I kind of like that about Destiny, that 843 00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.199 you don't get cool stuff constantly because every time there's a drop, it's like 844 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.920 a big deal, yah know, even if it turns out. I mean, 845 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.280 they've got the whole thing where you have to decode items. You know, 846 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.119 you get the encoded items, you have to take back to town, 847 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.119 get your ends right. Yeah, and half the time those turn into some 848 00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:36.039 bullshit that you don't need. And take him to decord Cane yep. Yeah, 849 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.039 you sit a while and listen to him tell you that, hey, 850 00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:43.199 this is for a class that you're not. Uh yeah, a lot of 851 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.239 people are upset about that. The purple drops that you decode, Like I 852 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.639 actually have the stats here. I don't know. If anybody's interested, they 853 00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.360 can be yes. Okay, So some some group on Reddit actually did I 854 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.079 think this is just an anecdotal survey. You know, they haven't been data 855 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.719 mining or anything, but they kind of did their own their own research, 856 00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.719 so like they let's see, Oh gosh, I copied and paste of this 857 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.079 and now I'm trying to parse this is some real information. Sorry, I'm 858 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:15.559 trying here. Uh okay, So, like for green ingrams, when you 859 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.360 take them to that guy to decode them, U seventy percent of the items 860 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.440 you'll get out of those green ones are green. Uh, this is based 861 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.800 on their stats. Seven percent we're blues out of the greens. And then 862 00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:29.239 they got no purples or yellows, which I think is not even possible. 863 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:35.159 The blue ones gave twenty percent green items, seventy five percent blue items, 864 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.960 and four percent purple. But the purple ones only give you a third or 865 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.480 they they only give you a purple item the third of the time. Wow. 866 00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:45.519 So, like that's what a lot of people are upset about, is 867 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.400 that the there's even this. There's even a legendary ingram account on Twitter that 868 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.880 just mocks people. Thought it was pretty good. Yeah, because you know, 869 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.840 like it's two out of basically two out of three items you get out 870 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.840 of the legendary ingrams are going to be green or blue. So it's like 871 00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.519 you see one of those things dropping them a mission and you get super excited, 872 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.000 and then you went back to town and it's like, ah, yeah, 873 00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.519 it's very frustrating. It's like the opposite effect of like random new drops 874 00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.159 are, like if you get you know, an unknown in some games and 875 00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:14.639 it could end up being something incredible. It's like the absolutely it's it does 876 00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.480 feel a little bit abusive. I still remember when I killed that dinosaur and 877 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:21.800 strangled the thorny that raptor and it dropped apart. Dude. I also got 878 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.400 a purple and strangled forward. I think it was from a pirate though, 879 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.920 somebody on a beach, and it was even like the type I was playing 880 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.159 a paladine, and it was even one And it was even a one handed 881 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.639 mace, which is exactly the type of weapons I was using. Wow, 882 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.639 at the time, I think my next I was so freaking excited. Mine 883 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.800 was a one that was crossing the road. Yeah, I just hit it's 884 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.960 just to hit it. Yeah, And I dropped that. I love that. 885 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.840 I love that brief like second and a half or two seconds of like 886 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.960 dawning awareness where like the thing that's happened in front of you hasn't fully registered, 887 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.519 like the magnitude of what just happened to the odds that you just beat, 888 00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.320 I haven't really sunk in yet, and then all of a sudden the 889 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:58.880 flash of like, oh my fucking god, like you know, and then 890 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:00.840 you start jumping out of your shair, and then you realize you're in your 891 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.360 room alone. Yes, yeah, and then you have your life back to 892 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:08.119 tanaras. Yeah. Yeah, So I'll probably play way more of that than 893 00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:15.440 is healthy, but not before we talk about some news. Yeah. News, 894 00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:19.039 Uh, the Tokyo Game Show happened. I did, uh do you 895 00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:21.440 guys had a bunch of people over there. Yeah, I see, he 896 00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:24.519 went over. I saw Mary Peter trans Yes, seeing a bunch of like 897 00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:30.840 drunken drunken jr. Line photos from them. They seem to have fun. 898 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:35.679 Yeah, Peter got back today, Mary's sletted office. Jack. It seemed 899 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.159 like there was a lot more news at TGS well then previous year. I'm 900 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.920 going to say the opposite, really, I mean, maybe you know more 901 00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.760 than I've seen. I don't know. I know they had the indies on 902 00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:50.239 the regular show floor this year, which apparently was was decent. Should be. 903 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.119 I guess I only pulled like three stories and they're not even the biggest 904 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.760 stories really, So hit me if you know anything else based on game spots 905 00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.679 coverage that I missed, please please feel free to chime to make some mombargoes. 906 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:05.599 Oh yes, but the biggest one by far to me is the Square 907 00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.800 n X was out there talking about Final Fantasy fifteen. Tessa, you no 908 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:13.039 Mourra is no longer the director of Final Fantasy fifteen. I didn't know that. 909 00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:14.880 You didn't know. You didn't see that, dude, I thought that 910 00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:20.000 was a huge thing, Like he is he was getting drunk with DNA important. 911 00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:22.599 I mean, have you guys kept up with the development of that game? 912 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:24.199 Like, does anybody know what the nobody? Just a bunch of blake 913 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.960 fucking stars. I thought you were video game professionals. I'm not a big 914 00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.880 Final Fantasy fan, but that trainer made me think I want to play that. 915 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:34.840 I still need to watch that watch it. But I saw a lot 916 00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.519 of people saying that it's basically like a character action game at this point, 917 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.159 like, yeah, and it's it's like a modern day and setting. Yeah, 918 00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.119 it sounds like it bears next to no resemblance to any previous Final game. 919 00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:45.559 He used to be another game. Okay, so this game. To 920 00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:51.199 put it in perspective, this game was announced eight years ago. Eight years 921 00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.719 ago. This is approaching Duke Nukem Forever levels of development. Hell, the 922 00:54:53.800 --> 00:55:00.719 JRPG of Duke Knukem Forever. Basically it was announced so when the first announced 923 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.159 Final Fantasy thirteen, which in itself was announced before Final Fantasy twelve game. 924 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.239 Yeah, they announced it as the big kind of cross media like multi tiered 925 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:13.119 strategy of There was f thirteen, there was f It was Final Fantasy Age 926 00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.119 To thirteen, which is gonna be a mobile game, and then Final Fantasy 927 00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.400 Verses thirteen, which is gonna be this game. It was being directed by 928 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.800 Nomura, who became kind of like the rising star of Square Enix after Final 929 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.880 Fantasy seven came out. He created the Kingdom Hearts series kind of like, 930 00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:29.480 you know, he's the director of those games as well, So it's at 931 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.199 a certain point. He was the director of Final Fantasy Versus thirteen and the 932 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.679 you know now announced Kingdom Hearts three. Uh so ff thirteen verses has drug 933 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.880 on for years and years and then when did they rebrand it? It was 934 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.559 last E three, right, Yeah, it was allowed the past three and 935 00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:46.360 it was two years again, it was the it was the E three before 936 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.760 the concerts came out. Yeah. They made a big splash at the Sony 937 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:53.960 Conference again, Yeah, by rebranding Final Fantasy Versus thirteen as Final Fantasy fifteen, 938 00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:58.960 which looked like, I feel like the numbers on the sequels getting completely 939 00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.719 absurd. It's an online game that's mimo didn't come out yea twice yeah, 940 00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:06.039 kick, Yes, they put it out like three years ago and it was 941 00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.519 terrible and they shut it down and completely remade it. They need this one 942 00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:12.599 to be good, and it came out and was good, and I think 943 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.840 I think the current the new fourteen is doing pretty well. Actually it's it's 944 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.239 gotten a really good response for people. Right. But anyway, yeah, 945 00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.239 like so, you know, this game's dragged on and on and on, 946 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.000 and he's also supposed to be running Kingdom Hearts and they finally came out and 947 00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.599 said, hey, he's not the director of this anymore because we need to 948 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.719 put this out. Oh god, before it sinks the company. The new 949 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:37.000 director is uh Hajimea Tabata, who is the current director of Final Fantasy Type 950 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.360 zero, which I think is what ag to thirteen termed into Wow, what 951 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.760 a tangled fucking web Final Fantasy thirteen has woven? Yeah, that, you 952 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:51.239 know they pay some lip service to, like, oh, this allows Memoria 953 00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:54.519 to focus his full attention on King of Hearts three. Uh, there's a 954 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:58.960 demo of Final Fantasy fifteen coming out with Type zero, which is coming out 955 00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.159 in March. Oh wow, I guess look forward to that. That's kind 956 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:05.719 of it, you know, But I mean it's it's kind of like the 957 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:10.159 end of an era, right, thirteen two come out? Yes? Three? 958 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:14.599 Yeah? What? Yeah? Yes? That was Lightning returns. Oh 959 00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:20.239 boy, yeah yeah yeah, I haven't I don't know. I liked thirteen. 960 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:22.760 I used to kind of came up to an extent, like I used 961 00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.000 to be cognizant of when Final Fantasies were coming out and stuff. But I 962 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:29.519 think you're right, it's just so convalid. Just my eyes just glaze over 963 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:31.639 you. Okay, fine, Final Fantasy things. I mean to me, 964 00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:36.840 like the idea of a numbered fifteenth sequel in the series is completely absurd. 965 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.960 It's kind of great though, because no one else is doing this, Like 966 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:43.559 that's throwing convention to the to the wall. And the other cool thing about 967 00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:45.239 it is like, I know that this one does look like if you watch 968 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:49.239 the trailer, it is very character action. He does look different. But 969 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.119 like for people who really like enjoy those games, they have been evolving quite 970 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.480 a lot. Like you know, they change up the settings a lot, 971 00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:59.400 They change up the like era and like trying stuff like the mechanic wise, 972 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:00.679 they change up the bottle system, sometimes for the batter, some of the 973 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:04.679 times for the words. Sure, so there is something to like. It's 974 00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:06.760 cool. I like that. I don't play those games very much, but 975 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.119 it's kind of cool to exist because they're they're just different at least. Yeah, 976 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.280 I guess I could kind of agree with you. Do you know I 977 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.199 want to play a cocter Action five. I mean, I'll give it a 978 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.079 shot, But like, I don't know what even is that series anymore? 979 00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:23.199 What's your favorite one? Probably six of the modern ex between four and see? 980 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:28.159 Oh, like what is that like? Post start with seven? Nine? 981 00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.639 Up? Nine? Yeah? And what kind of arbitrary cut off is 982 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.719 that? It's like, let's start with the last of three PlayStation three. 983 00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.480 I mean all those seven, eight, and nine are basically the same game 984 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.679 tech wise. Yeah, I mean, let's start with seven. That was 985 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:45.079 the first one with HAVV on a disc, right, Yeah, I don't 986 00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.880 even know ten. Probably ten tends great, But then I went back and 987 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:52.679 played the Hi remake of ten, and it's kind of hard to come back 988 00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.639 to, right, So I don't know if that's just rose colored glasses, 989 00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:59.079 I it's I mean, overall, it's easily the two on the supernos that 990 00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.840 came out here. Uh, but you know, I think a lot of 991 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.239 people would argue with the Final Fantasy is a series that's kind of lost its 992 00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.800 way at this point, so eager to see what that thing is if nothing 993 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:13.039 else, Never know, Two meters Boot was pretty good. I think I 994 00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.320 think there's some footage of the demo from TGS out there, Oh, so 995 00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:17.760 you can look around for or maybe that was just in that trailer. I'm 996 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:21.599 not sure, but you know, I guess we can all try it out 997 00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:28.440 next March. Before March, PlayStation TV will be out in North America. 998 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.880 Anybody gasp? Sure? Yes, thrilled we capture Vita footage? Yes? 999 00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.239 Great? I mean this is the Vita TV. This is the thing that 1000 00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:38.800 you know. Jeff has had a Japanese version of this for a while, 1001 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:44.000 but because of the way that PSN and accounts are regional locked, it was 1002 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:47.119 not super useful to us. I think is the problem. Okay, So 1003 00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.119 I think there's something like seven hundred games that are compatible with this thing. 1004 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:52.840 Wow, although I don't think that's There aren't even seven hundred games on the 1005 00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.719 Vitas so I think a lot of those are like PS three games. I 1006 00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.559 forget what the breakdown is PSP. Yes, they talked about games are going 1007 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:02.360 to be I think there's a big list out there of compatibility stuff. The 1008 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.760 biggest problem with this thing. I mean, if anybody hasn't seen this, 1009 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.599 it basically looks like an Apple TV. It's just a tiny little device. 1010 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:13.000 It's since under the TV hockey puck kind of yeah, slightly different shape. 1011 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:15.800 But but you can you can play Vida games on it on the TV. 1012 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:21.880 But you can't use the Vita as a controller. What what. I think 1013 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.400 you have to use a dual Shock three at the moment, maybe also a 1014 01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:25.800 dual Shock four. I can't remember if you can use both, but you 1015 01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:30.679 cannot use the Vita as a control mechanism for the games for Vita games, 1016 01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.119 yes, meaning that anything that relies heavily on the Vita is kind of unique 1017 01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:37.079 stuff. You know, the touch screen, the rear touch, like it 1018 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.239 doesn't work on this thing. It seems like a lack of four sights kinda 1019 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.679 you know. I mean, there's probably not a great solution for it, 1020 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:45.679 but yeah, you're right, like it would be nice if I mean, 1021 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.239 you know, I'm a little I'm thinking a little self servingly here because this 1022 01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.239 is this would be our avenue to start doing Vita quick looks finally, but 1023 01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:57.400 there will still be inevitably the games that we can't run on it. But 1024 01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:04.800 that thing's coming out here and on October fourteenth for one hundred bucks, so 1025 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.840 the same price. Yeah, it's I think it was one hundred in Japan 1026 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:09.400 as well, So I mean it's kind of a weird hybrid product. I 1027 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.960 don't know how much demand there's going to be for it. But you know, 1028 01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.639 is there any word of Europe at all? Not that I saw, 1029 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:19.639 No, just North America. So I assume it's gonna be like crossed by 1030 01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.519 to where like if I have rogue legacy on Oh, this thing is just 1031 01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:24.840 like this thing just takes your PSN account. Okay, so any of I 1032 01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.679 have on there, I still have on any game you own on a Vita, 1033 01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:30.639 you can play on this. Does your KIDNT need to be on? 1034 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.679 Assuming it is compatible? What's does your VDA need to be on? I 1035 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:36.119 don't think so. You do not need to own a Vida to you? 1036 01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:37.239 No, no, no, no, this is a This is a box 1037 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.320 that access is your PlayStation all right. This makes a lot more sense than 1038 01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:44.079 because no, no no this yeah, this this shares all your like PSN 1039 01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:46.599 credentials and stuff. Yeah, so maybe the Vida just is not compatible. 1040 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:51.480 Is a Bluetooth controller It's possible, or they should just call it the PlayStation 1041 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.840 box or like ps store box because the Vita stuff is kind of well here, 1042 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.639 it's the PlayStation TV. Okay, it does not have to Veta brand 1043 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:00.199 on it. Can you do saves through the cloud? Like? Could I 1044 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:05.119 do my legacy Vita save on there? As well? Maybe? I'm not 1045 01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:07.679 sure how that's why I would do. That would make sense if you've already 1046 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:09.079 got it ONS four. Yeah, I mean, if you already own a 1047 01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.440 PS four and a Vita. I don't know if there's a ton of use 1048 01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.440 for this thing. It's ice hockey and run out of pucks. Yep. 1049 01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:17.719 I mean again, I mostly bring it up just to say, hey, 1050 01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:22.159 hopefully we will do some Vita quick looks finally, because we still have no 1051 01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.559 good way to see there should be there should be some games that will work 1052 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.960 four. Yeah, but again, anything that relies heavily on the view the 1053 01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:30.440 new games work for it. I don't know, you know, they're I 1054 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:35.159 think they're gonna be actively bringing games to it, right, but when a 1055 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.440 game comes out like launch Day on Launch, yeah, who knows, it's 1056 01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:40.039 it's hard to say. I'll take whatever I can get at this point. 1057 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:45.480 Ye, with that thing. Another release state Blood Born. Anybody who's excited 1058 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.280 for Blood Born? I am. Don't tell me, it's just me. 1059 01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:51.960 You like dark Souls? Yeah, I'll watch people play that, Yeah, 1060 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:58.280 watch internet streams. Sure. Yeah, I am super fucking excited about blood 1061 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.400 Moore. Did you play it in packs it all? I played a D 1062 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.480 three and it's not the same content, Patrick get his butt kicked. Yeah? 1063 01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:07.119 Oh yeah. The backs demo was way shinier. I mean it looked 1064 01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.360 a lot better, Yeah, ran a lot smoother and stuff. There's all 1065 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.960 of the off screen in the world from TGS for people to drip over a 1066 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:15.760 Yeah, I take a look at that stuff. I mean, that game 1067 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:17.599 looks really good, you know, just the idea of like the guy who 1068 01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.480 directed the first Dark Souls and Demon Souls making a new game on on the 1069 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.880 PS four. You know, they've never been the most technical accomplished studio, 1070 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:30.000 but still that's a pretty powerful machine as consoles go. Yeah, seeing what 1071 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:31.760 they do, you know, and they've got really strong art design and stuff, 1072 01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:36.159 so seeing what they do with that on a new console is really exciting. 1073 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.280 And it's February sixth, it's the day after it's out in Japan, 1074 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:44.960 so no lengthy wait. Yeah, really excited about that. That's all the 1075 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:50.280 TGS news I've got, unless are intrepid game Spot correspondent. I hear you 1076 01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.679 can buy underwear in vending machine. Yeah, yeah, tell me more. 1077 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:58.159 I've never heard such a tall tale. You've veen to Javan right many times? 1078 01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:00.239 Okay, I've never seen that couple of times? Got done? Have 1079 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.440 you been to Japan? No? Gone in a couple of weeks though? 1080 01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:06.559 Have you not been the worst? No? What? Even then? Ireland? 1081 01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.719 Japan is like your next door that's like you're in next door. Yeah, 1082 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.760 it's right there. It's the nearest island to you guys. Yep, 1083 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:15.199 I can see it from the beach in the sunset. It's right across the 1084 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.599 Pacific. Just a quick little boat right. Yeah, how long was? 1085 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.840 Do you know what the flight would be from Ireland to go? It can't 1086 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:26.280 be that bas Australia. I'd probably be eighteen airs maybe Jesus, I mean 1087 01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.840 that's like ten from year. Did you get the flower right over the No, 1088 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.599 that would be ridiculous. You'd go over a lot of the A lot 1089 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.199 of the airline routes from here to Japan go like up towards the North Pole 1090 01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:39.760 and that's how very close and then back down. That's how we gets from 1091 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.920 West coast from Europe. They all go over the top as well. It's 1092 01:04:42.920 --> 01:04:45.440 like thirteen eleven eleven hours. No, I never been always wanted to. 1093 01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.599 Yeah, you guys, when you guys doing the ride, that's you know, 1094 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.840 that's not for me to answer. Never bring that up again, okay, 1095 01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.920 Uh yeah, like TJS got weird, you know, it became somewhat 1096 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.599 irrelevant at some point. Japanese development has had its own right problems in the 1097 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:06.360 past. Yeah, I mean there's there's interesting stuff there, but for the 1098 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.119 expense and time commitment of a trip to Japan, like there used to be 1099 01:05:10.159 --> 01:05:13.159 a lot of stuff. Yeah, and it's uh, you guys need to 1100 01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:15.039 go to games calm. That's I don't know about that. I don't know 1101 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.400 about that. Why would you not want to go I've been in Germany. 1102 01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:21.280 I didn't. You went to Leipzig. It sucked, right, it was 1103 01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:24.880 miserable. Actually, I mean there are parts of Lipsick that were really nice 1104 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:30.079 or like a part was that there were part there was that room, there 1105 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:35.079 was that bar. The hotel was fairly miserable. Uh. The square where 1106 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:41.920 that church is, there's a church that was kind of foundational in Eastern European 1107 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.880 okay, like or I mean sorry, the East East German independence movement. 1108 01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.440 There's a really a nice church in Cologne. It's nice and it's the oldest. 1109 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.079 It's probably true in the world. You should do it. The sick 1110 01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:55.559 video content you could create. Yeah, you're probably right. You know, 1111 01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:59.480 maybe every time you guys have gone abroad somewhere be at Liverpool with our Iceland 1112 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.320 it's always sure. I mean that was one of the problems with Japan was 1113 01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:05.360 that you can't film anywhere really, like every store operator like like try to 1114 01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:09.199 take cameras and arcades and stuff and just not having it really. Yeah, 1115 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:12.360 is pretty strict about that street pretty bad as well. I think you would 1116 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.519 refine more or less on the sidewalk. It's the worst shot, I guess. 1117 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.599 But just about any business we went into, it was kind of frowned 1118 01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:23.599 upon. To be Yes, a lot of cross arms. Uh yeah, 1119 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:26.440 trade Chris are weird, you know, like going to them is a pretty 1120 01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.000 significant expense in more ways than one. So I gotta know what you're getting 1121 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.199 out of it. But maybe, Yeah, I can imagine your europe European 1122 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.480 tour. Europeans want out of the Liverpool video. It was quite popular, 1123 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:42.920 It was brilliant. Yeah, oh imagine Dan in Germany. Yeah, I 1124 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:45.840 love these are all great ideas walking. We would love to do all this. 1125 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.559 Don't get me wrong, Okay, you would love more premious descriptions that 1126 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:56.199 went what needs to happen for this to happen? Yeah. Now, if 1127 01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.239 I'm not the business guy, now I feel like I'm We were watching that 1128 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.679 pay per view last night, the WW thing on the network, and they 1129 01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:05.960 did that nine ninety nine commercial, like fifty times the work. They're like 1130 01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:10.159 ninety nine, don't it cost nine ninety nine? Yeah, like we know, 1131 01:07:10.519 --> 01:07:13.719 we bade it. We're watching it on the network. Are they desperate? 1132 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:15.719 No? I thought I read the numbers are not where they want to 1133 01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:19.599 It wasn't where they wanted them to be. But they're they're doing okay, 1134 01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:21.480 and it's not going away. I mean, you can't go back to the 1135 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:25.280 old pay per view model now and expect to sixty dollars a month from people 1136 01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:29.000 every pay per view total, it'll do fine. And they are shoving it 1137 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.719 down people's throats every two seconds the nine ninety nine price point to the point 1138 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:36.199 where like fans are chanting nine nine, like bringing their own nine ninety nine 1139 01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:40.239 signs and everything turning into a meme. At this point, it's a weird 1140 01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:43.840 thing that it might be working, but it's especially weird to be advertising it. 1141 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.960 Yeah, like you said to people who already signed up for it. 1142 01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:47.679 Yeah, yeah, I don't know it'll work. It's gonna be around for 1143 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:51.760 a very long time. So ye, well I want to Formula one network. 1144 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.440 Yeah? Is there where I want this to succeed? So that is 1145 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.599 there? Is there a single organizing body that can make that happen. They 1146 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.199 could, but they're very stodgy. Yeah, I can see that. The 1147 01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:09.800 F one Formula one seems don't take this the wrong way kind of seems like 1148 01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:13.800 an old man's sport to me. How dare you? I mean, there's 1149 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:15.760 an old man running it? Basically is how this is breaking down. Vince 1150 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:26.279 mcman is like seventy and he put together they lived longer over there. How 1151 01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:28.399 old is he actually, I don't know, he's pretty old these in his 1152 01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:30.279 late eighties. I'm saying, Vince, it's not a pretty chicken and network 1153 01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.560 was just it just seems like an organization that would be slow to change. 1154 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:38.279 It's a it's a very stuck in its ways. I can imagine between like 1155 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.359 the amount of current deals they have with different television networks around the world and 1156 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:46.560 the fact that it's an organization that is exists globally that it's probably there's a 1157 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.239 lot of logistic issues happening between making The rights are all super weird too, 1158 01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:54.239 and it's the entire sport based on rights like they don't I don't think they 1159 01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:57.479 are not much money at the track, Yeah, for that stuff. Spashroom 1160 01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.399 buttle don't come sheep. No, well, a little bitch for this year 1161 01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.239 he's gotta get paid. Wait, why he's not. Oh it's the only 1162 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:08.039 name I know. Sorry, now who am I going to harp on go 1163 01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.720 for? Can we go buy ashi? Alright? Okay, no sorry, 1164 01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:15.960 Pastor Maldonado. Yeah, okay, that's that's a cool name. Yeah he's 1165 01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.560 a great driver. Okay, yeah, all right, one final story. 1166 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.920 He couldn't get to F one if he wasn't. I suppose that's true. 1167 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.479 Yeah, he need his government to like pay a load of money at F 1168 01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:32.079 one and something. What hogwash? Sounds scandals? All right? Uh so 1169 01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:38.439 we did that quick look for warlords of dran Or Ran dran Or according to 1170 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.880 griss Waters, Okay, he would know, yep, if anybody would on 1171 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:45.680 gosh, I guess I went up over the weekend, right did? Yeah? 1172 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:47.039 Yeah, so that's fresh. I mean, Rory's been checking out the 1173 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:53.920 beta for that thing they've got. They're doing a culling of user names. 1174 01:09:55.079 --> 01:10:00.239 No, like a giant scythe is just is descending on the on the I'm 1175 01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.600 trying to help me out with this analogy here, the Great Cerebra, the 1176 01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:06.840 Great wheat Field, so he's fine. So last okay, okay, the 1177 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:14.720 the the great expansive field of how can I I'm flailing here the pasture of 1178 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.479 the old, the old wild characters that have been put out the pasture. 1179 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:23.279 Scie is going to come down and reap their user. I've got nothing away 1180 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.680 with words, okay, So so sho be a writer. So if you 1181 01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:32.399 had, if you haven't logged into any character in World of Warcraft, any 1182 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.840 given characters since November thirteenth, two thousand and eight, when the new patch 1183 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.760 comes, there's so there's new patch coming, like directly it might be me 1184 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:43.960 prior to the do you have a do you have character? Yeah? Really? 1185 01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.960 Huh? You played well a torn shaman. What's what's called? Well? 1186 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.720 I think I think carefully before you put that name out in public rights, 1187 01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:56.640 Giant and Shaman, because because when the six point two patch rolls out, 1188 01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.640 Uh, any of those characters that haven't been used in that period of 1189 01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:02.640 time, the name is gonna be up for grabs again. Huh. I 1190 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:06.479 had a character I called Andrew WK on one of our surives. Cool, 1191 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:10.600 he was a human? Did they let it go? Yes? He was? 1192 01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.920 I feel like, wasn't there a point maybe it was early on when 1193 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:15.079 I was first playing, Like, I feel like for a while they were 1194 01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:21.079 policing like goofy fiction breaking user names. But maybe they I'm sure. I'm 1195 01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:25.359 sure like everything else, they slacked off or they lightened up on Maybe your 1196 01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:30.600 name is Andrew WK though that's just maybe it was just Andrew an apostrophe in 1197 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.760 there. A friend of mine worked as a games master desert really so like 1198 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:40.600 solving in game is a web master? Yeah, okay, yeah, which 1199 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.399 was a really weird job. He said, like ninety nine percent of his 1200 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.079 day was when people were needing and greeting at the end of raids and just 1201 01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:51.520 raid bosses. Raid master's just going nap. I'm taking it. Wait wait, 1202 01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:54.960 how did how was he involved in that? Was there a dispute? 1203 01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:57.520 So he worked for a Blizzard? Oh I know that. I'm saying that, 1204 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.239 like, oh people, did the players feel like in power or to 1205 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.439 escalate that customer service? Yeah, it says if somebody took something that they 1206 01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:06.399 didn't deserve. All the tickets were basically all based on like he said, 1207 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:11.560 like we've recorded an interview back home, and I'll be up inside I want 1208 01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.880 to hear that. But yeah, he's it's It was mostly like human disputes 1209 01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:18.960 that would happen in the real world, like abused and harassment. Obviously something 1210 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:20.560 that needs to be dealt with, but like, yeah, he said that 1211 01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:24.960 was easier to people. People like getting pussy with each other over who gets 1212 01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.720 the drop, seems like something that they would be like, Nope, working 1213 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:31.119 out among yourselves. That was really like mostly no kidding, that's hilariously a 1214 01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:34.039 couple of dozen those. I would love to read some of the messages that 1215 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:39.239 came in. Holy shit. And then the rest of it was just racism. 1216 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.720 Yeah, probably obviously because the Internet, the Internet anyways of the Internet. 1217 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:48.920 Thank you. I you know, I feel totally suckered in by this. 1218 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.600 I'm thinking about spending the fifteen dollars just to get back in there and 1219 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.680 just sign into my stupid character so that the themes don't get taken Bye Bye 1220 01:12:56.760 --> 01:13:00.279 Destiny, even though I yeah, I don't know, I don't know. 1221 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.199 I watched, you know, I sat for that quick look and came out 1222 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:05.720 of that feeling like maybe I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Do you usually 1223 01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:09.720 go back? Oh? I haven't been back since Burning Crusade. Oh watched, 1224 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.479 Yeah, I haven't played any of that stuff. Okay, then you've 1225 01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.720 made a conscious decision. Well, I just you know, I moved on 1226 01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.800 with my life. Dude. BC was like two thousand and seven, six 1227 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:21.840 I think six seven. It came out in No. Four it did. 1228 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:27.000 It came out on the November thirteenth, ten years old, and two months. 1229 01:13:27.039 --> 01:13:30.640 You know your history Half Life was on sixteenth Half Life two m Yeah, 1230 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:33.840 yeah, I know. It's I just kind of I played too much 1231 01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:36.239 while and then I said all right, I'm done, and I was truly 1232 01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:40.520 done. Huh. But yeah, I don't know from what I saw that 1233 01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.479 quick. Look, I don't know if there's anything it's gonna give me back 1234 01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:45.359 in I can't speak for you guys. What about you done? Yeahs, 1235 01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:49.279 you know it was a good game. I have not felt the draw to 1236 01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:54.319 go back, really. I just I don't like the idea of investing that 1237 01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:57.560 much time into a game tour, like, like I'm talking hundreds of hours. 1238 01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.600 I love a good thirty fifty hour game. We've put a couple of 1239 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.000 hundred into both Borderlands games. But there's just so much out there and I 1240 01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:05.079 kind of want to play everything, and I have a frame of reference for 1241 01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:10.239 everything. So the idea of sinking hundreds of hours into Wow, just seems 1242 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.880 like it's not gonna happen. See's good that you're realistic about it up front. 1243 01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:15.800 Yeah, I just I know that in order to see all that stuff, 1244 01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:18.000 the investment would be huge, and it would come at the expense of 1245 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:19.920 I wouldn't get to play all these other games, like I want to go 1246 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.359 home tonight and play and never Running Nightmares and Phoenix Rage and you know, 1247 01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:27.840 like I want to play all these games. Has there ever been a game 1248 01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:30.359 that you've spent in a Nordon Meda time first one? Okay, well not 1249 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:33.399 the first one, but yeah, during past one, probably like five hundred 1250 01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.640 hours or something like that. Wow. Yeah, it's a lot. But 1251 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:38.680 I mean that was over the course of like years and years, and it 1252 01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.720 was just a staple of the dorms and they did every day. He didn't 1253 01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:43.720 play that to the exclusion of everything else, though, Oh no, I 1254 01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.159 played everything. Yeah, sky Rim and fall Out. Running sky Ram probably 1255 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:49.439 good ninety hours. Fallout it's probably around eighty and ninety. Yeah. You 1256 01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.840 know, I do all the side stuff and go for all the achievements and 1257 01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:55.079 stuff, but once I'm done, I'm done. I don't really make another 1258 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.239 character, I'll do the deal, so I can't believe it. For the 1259 01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:59.439 second week running, I'm sitting here thinking, man, I should be more 1260 01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:03.279 like Damn, because I like that you're reasonable and then like realistic about it 1261 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.439 up front, you know, whereas like I'm the opposite of like I'd get 1262 01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:10.279 into Destiny and I'm like, I'm gonna do everything in this game. I'm 1263 01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:13.479 gonna get the platinum, I'm gonna I'm gonna grind the end game. I'm 1264 01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:16.680 gonna level all three classes up to max, and like a week and a 1265 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:19.159 half later here I am going like I don't have time for that. No, 1266 01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.560 like Destiny, even I will, I'll beat the story, I'll get 1267 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.279 to level twenty, I'll do a little bit more to see how the loot 1268 01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:29.920 system works and everything past that, and then I'll move on to Mortar or 1269 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.439 something. Yeah, let's see, that's the smart way to go. I 1270 01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:34.600 cannot rational measured man bad, That's what I am. And I'll tell you 1271 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:38.119 how many games I've sat down and looked at the achievements where trophies, going 1272 01:15:38.199 --> 01:15:40.600 like I could do that, I could get all those Yeah, but do 1273 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.560 you do you feel regrets forever? Like doing that it recedes very quickly. 1274 01:15:44.880 --> 01:15:45.800 Yeah. Then for the first a couple of days, I'm like, man, 1275 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:47.600 I wish I'd had time to do more of that stuff. Hey, 1276 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.840 you do you man? And then yep, there are some like that last 1277 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.479 Devil May Cry, the one that anintin theory did. Yeah. For some 1278 01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:56.680 reason, I think I was like sick for like two weeks, and I 1279 01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:59.000 was at home right when that came out, and I was like, I'm 1280 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.039 going to get all a thousand achievements in this and I beat it like seven 1281 01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.279 times, like even on the modes where it's like Dante dies and one hit 1282 01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.239 and all the other guys are really hard, and like I got every single 1283 01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.680 thing, and then which one was DMC the Yeah, I actually like that 1284 01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.159 one a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great game. All right. 1285 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:17.159 Who wants talk about emails? May Yeah? Okay, well that was 1286 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:21.800 rhetorical question, because we're gonna talk about emails anyway, even if ye too 1287 01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:29.520 bad, too effing bad BombCast giant bomb dot com except no substitutes. Send 1288 01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:33.000 your email to that address, that address alone, bodcast com, Get the 1289 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:40.520 funk out of here podcast Giant Bomb, and I'll sift through your one hundreds 1290 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.520 of emails every week. Okay, well I should do is actually email all 1291 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:47.039 the all Tap one ones, the Bobcast okay and vice versa them and wrestling 1292 01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:49.640 stuff. Do you guys have any email address? Do you take emails? 1293 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:53.199 I think there's one that goes to Alex. Yeah, I think it's power 1294 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.479 BombCast. That's something that all right, well, let's just get all the 1295 01:16:55.520 --> 01:17:00.479 emails out there. We'll be confusing at all BombCast Jack All right. Chris 1296 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.840 from England, Hi, guys, I just watched the TGS Final Fantasy fifteen 1297 01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:09.399 trailer. Like I said, I should have done that. I haven't played 1298 01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:12.600 a numbered Final Fantasy games since ten and while I think the trailer looks cool, 1299 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:15.760 it's hard to discern what this new game actually is. It appears to 1300 01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:17.640 be some kind of watered down character action game. I know Final Fantasy has 1301 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:21.960 had many spinoffs, such as the Tactics games or Crystal Chronicles, but if 1302 01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:26.359 the gameplay of the core series has changed so much from the traditional term based 1303 01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:30.119 style, what even defines a Final Fantasy game now? Is it even still 1304 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:36.600 a jerp ps I'm from the northeast of England, so or your usual amazing 1305 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:42.399 English accent will not be appropriate here. Please look up the Jordy accent before 1306 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:45.920 mismershing my people with your Cockney nonsense. Also, jerp is not a typo. 1307 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:49.119 It's how all the hipcats say at JRPG outowed these days. Grace, 1308 01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:55.079 can you favor us with your rendition of a jority accents? Captain's from Newcastle? 1309 01:17:56.359 --> 01:18:00.640 That sounded a bit well sh actually yeah, yeah, that's on Dune. 1310 01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.640 No Newcastle, Sunderland. Come on, England's not that big as it. 1311 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.119 It's pretty big. Yeah, welcome reading Rainbow. I'm terrified to the 1312 01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:12.800 accents because it's on then, it's on the internet forever a practice. That's 1313 01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.279 whatever, man, you just gotta own it. I wonder, I wonder 1314 01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.960 if he wants Oh well, Mite, you could do a company one as 1315 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.439 long as the stands lot com supposed to be in Oliver and it's fine. 1316 01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:29.840 That's not terrible. As real as the world's foremost authority on British accents, 1317 01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:31.640 I can tell you that that was pretty good, Thank you. Does Ireland 1318 01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.520 have regional Oh man, Ireland's insane? Is it? Like every county is 1319 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:41.039 slightly different? I had I had a friend who could not understand my uncle's 1320 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.880 accent. Really because he was from Westmeath and nobody knows what I was, 1321 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:45.119 like, what does your uncle sound like? Oh? Like, I can't 1322 01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:47.840 even do it? Come on like, I talk like this and I'm from 1323 01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:50.159 what I'm from. Okay, if I was back home in Waterford, I'd 1324 01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:53.560 be talking a lot faster like this, okay, and you'd probably be a 1325 01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.640 lot harder than his stand. But you've done that at a bar before. 1326 01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:57.600 Ever. Yeah, I got a couple of drinks to me and there's another 1327 01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.560 ice fill there and I started talking like it's all faster. Yeah, I 1328 01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:01.720 can attest. It was hard to understand the rich for the lack and all 1329 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.039 that. But then I used to live at Cark. Cark is down to 1330 01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:06.560 set West. They won't talks like this, and they at the end of 1331 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.520 the sentence it goes up really high. I'm butchering these by the way. 1332 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.560 And then in Dublin they're living like North Dublin. They kind of talk like 1333 01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:19.439 they're like they're trying to perpetual sneer. We're shamous from what's the starry shame 1334 01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:23.720 is he's from North Doblin, Okay, I think he's from Randler or somewhere. 1335 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:27.239 Okay, Then if you're like in the country, like if you're like 1336 01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:30.720 Donny gall or somewhere up somewhere up north. Yeah, he might talk a 1337 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.319 little bit softly. It wasn't a little will too like Daniel o'donnald you talk 1338 01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:36.560 like that. And I'm not going to get a tour of all these places 1339 01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:39.680 when I go to Ireland with him, I'll bring it anywhere you one, 1340 01:19:39.800 --> 01:19:41.520 Okay, I want to I just I want to meet your uncle now. 1341 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.159 I want to hear yeah, or just get him on the phone, you 1342 01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:46.840 know, skype him in next week. Sure, that's he's from Westmead, 1343 01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:53.800 my friend. I'm not sure if they have internet or indoor plumbing. I'm 1344 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.279 sorry, I can take the piss out him culture you're not. Well, 1345 01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.880 yeah, you just have to do it in the outhouse. Oh damnas damn 1346 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:08.640 as is the name of the bar that I'm going to. And well there's 1347 01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:11.760 a lot more going on with the out house. All come full circle. 1348 01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:14.760 That's is that the one in the middle of the field. Yeah, it's 1349 01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.680 in a corn field. It's b I ob usually sit on your cooler or 1350 01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:21.359 say no more, not on this podcast. It's probably save it, okay, 1351 01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:26.000 yep, yep, save it. I'll save it. I you know, 1352 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.520 I don't have an answer for his question. Like we said earlier, 1353 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.159 I don't know what Final Fantasy is at this point either, and who knows? 1354 01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.800 That could all be stuff that they've just stripped the UI out of. 1355 01:20:36.359 --> 01:20:40.319 You never know. Sure like it looks cinematic for a reason, because it's 1356 01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.720 a cinematic each trailer yep, you know it looks like a final Look. 1357 01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.199 It's a bunch of you know, Final Fantasy asks looking people in it. 1358 01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.279 I guess all having some Final Fantasy asked stuff. A lot of spiky feathered 1359 01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:54.039 hair, yeah, backflips, how many belts? A lot of zippers and 1360 01:20:54.079 --> 01:21:00.359 buckles yeah, yeah, monsters, jackets, monsters yet nice cards team so 1361 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.880 many as the person buckles, teens saving the world the video game, you 1362 01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.000 know, I mean the idea that Nomura is not going to be on Final 1363 01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:09.359 Fancy games from now on, Like that alone gives me some hope, Like 1364 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.680 he's just chuck. He's done the character designs for the last like what eight 1365 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:16.800 of them or something close to it, you know, welcome some new blood 1366 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:24.560 on that if nothing else, all right, how about an email from DC, 1367 01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:30.680 the person of the District, David Cool tired. I didn't say it's 1368 01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:35.359 just signed DC Daniel like this. About a year ago, my sweet old 1369 01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:40.479 mom bought a set of yoga videos on a recommendation from friend. She's never 1370 01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:44.159 paid an ounce of attention to wrestling, so she was fairly confused when an 1371 01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:48.600 hour later she got a phone call from an exuberant Diamond Dallas Page personally thanking 1372 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:53.920 her for buying the program. Not knowing who he was, my mom was 1373 01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:57.439 fairly confused to be getting a random call from this crazy sounding guy. But 1374 01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:00.560 the way she tells the story, he was super excited to explain his history 1375 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:02.960 and how he ended up doing yoga after his injury. YEP, I guess 1376 01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.840 he just randomly calls people up to say thanks and get them engaged in the 1377 01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:10.800 program. Sounds like a class act. He is. He is so awesome, 1378 01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:14.119 he is. That's how he personally sold me on it. I was 1379 01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:18.159 at a bar before mcfoley's comedy show a couple of summer slams go and DDP 1380 01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:20.880 was just standing at the bar by himself. I was like, when I 1381 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.159 got a beer and I was like hey, DDP, and he's like, 1382 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:26.600 oh yeah. I was going just like lights up immediately and I'm sure he's 1383 01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:28.920 got marks coming up to him all the time, but he acted like he 1384 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.880 was actually like really into the Conversation's cool, and I said something like, 1385 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:32.920 yeah, I heard you're like teaching yoga or something. I was like, 1386 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.000 oh yeah, bro, let me tell you about like oh it's great. 1387 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:38.199 It's not this hippie dippy crap. It's not this period. And I was 1388 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:41.039 like, Okay, that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. And so 1389 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.359 yeah, he personally sold me on the DDP yoga program and I've been doing 1390 01:22:44.359 --> 01:22:46.159 it for like three years now. Like he is so excited. He should 1391 01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:49.720 be excited to tell his story. He is one of the few happy post 1392 01:22:49.800 --> 01:22:55.119 wrestling career stories that's ever come out of that industry. And not only is 1393 01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.920 he himself doing great, he's helping the hell out of Scott Hall and Jake 1394 01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.760 the Snake and all these other guys, like it is a very positive thing 1395 01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:06.039 and he's he's fantastic what he does. Yeah, that does not surprise me 1396 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:09.840 at all that he personally calls it's a feel good story. Yeah, but 1397 01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.720 you're not seem in Simpsons or Ringo Star Like forty years later is like writing 1398 01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:15.680 back on March, so like all that, that's it's not what he's doing. 1399 01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.720 He's just making good on everyone who's ever bought one of his DVDs. 1400 01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:21.199 I think he's pretty quick on the draw with that stuff. He's not waiting 1401 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:25.159 forty years. I mean, he's he's gone all in on this business, 1402 01:23:25.239 --> 01:23:28.039 and I think it's doing really well for him. Oh that's nice. Yeah, 1403 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.279 all right. I could not care less about wrestling, but I like 1404 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:32.319 hearing stories about wrestlers. I can't explain it. That's the thing I was 1405 01:23:32.439 --> 01:23:35.720 home for last time. I was in Kansas City and my aunt was asking 1406 01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:39.479 me about DDP yoga. I don't think she even knew that he was a 1407 01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:41.520 wrestler or something. She's like, oh, yeah, all my friends at 1408 01:23:41.560 --> 01:23:44.079 work are doing this DDP yoga thing. And I was like, oh, 1409 01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:47.479 really, Like it's like d I d I pe like it's some sort of 1410 01:23:47.560 --> 01:23:53.840 like spiritual Yeah, oh DDP Yeah, yeah, I've trained in DDP. 1411 01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:59.800 Yeah, it's spent five years in India. That's awesome. That's great to 1412 01:23:59.880 --> 01:24:01.760 hear. Yeah, that's yeah, that's fun. Also, if you ever 1413 01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:06.079 tweet anything about DDP yoga, DDP will probably either favorite it or retweet it, 1414 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:10.079 but then add on all caps bang at the end of what you said 1415 01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:13.239 I did not right, Yeah. I think he says it just like that 1416 01:24:13.319 --> 01:24:15.279 every time he doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, you at DDP yoga and then 1417 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.439 hashtag DDP yoga. That was a good hardy bang. Yeah, that was 1418 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:23.640 a good one. Charles has an email here for Dan and Drew. Yep. 1419 01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:27.359 Dan and Drew should find this information interesting since they were curious to know 1420 01:24:27.399 --> 01:24:33.920 if bananas came from trees during a demo Derby Weird Fruit Facts with Dan and 1421 01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:40.920 Drew. The yellow banana fruit is a berry, but the quote unquote banana 1422 01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:46.920 tree it grows from is actually an herb. What everything is lies fits other 1423 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:53.079 fruits that are berries, oranges, cum quats nope, watermelons, pumpkins nope, 1424 01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:57.399 avocados nope, eggplants, tomatoes, and more. No, all berries. 1425 01:24:58.039 --> 01:25:00.880 A strawberry is not actually a berry. Yes, it is an aggregate 1426 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:08.239 fruit. What the brownish spec Yeah, yes, the strawberry is the click 1427 01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:12.840 bait of the fruit world. The brownish specs on the outside of the strawberry 1428 01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:15.800 are individual, tiny fruits that each have their own seed. The red part 1429 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.399 of the strawberry is called a fleshy respect fleshy receptacle and isn't really a fruit? 1430 01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:27.399 Botanical classifications are weird? Is that that time? We like find it 1431 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:33.319 that tomatoes are why you say it like that? Did you say it that's 1432 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.039 slowly because you thought that's how we say it in America? No, it's 1433 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.960 not azy. Okay, get that, Get that fleshy receptable away from me. 1434 01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:45.960 Aren't they fruit technically? Yeah? Well that was what we all know. 1435 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000 They're really That was the only weird fruit fact I ever knew until now. 1436 01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:54.600 None of that makes any sense. Banana tree is nerb. I mean, 1437 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.079 have you ever seen what a real, like a natural banana looks like? 1438 01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:00.439 Like? It looks nothing like what you know as a banana. You 1439 01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:02.640 know. It's one of those things where they, you know, selected agriculture 1440 01:26:02.680 --> 01:26:06.279 over thousands of years. Really, is that sticker? That's not what they 1441 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:10.840 actually weird? Yeah? No, no, they selected and bread for that. 1442 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.640 It's a desirable traits by the show up and super Monkey Ball that way, 1443 01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:17.439 yep, very desirable. Good play super monkey Ball. Yeah you PF, 1444 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.039 we should do the monkey target practice many games. Yeah, that one's 1445 01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:24.199 awesome. Let's do that next to you, PF. Come on Man. 1446 01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:28.960 You can't you can't tip your hand. Oh yeah, I mean maybe we'll 1447 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:33.399 do it. Sometimes that will never happen. Yeah, okay, Eric from 1448 01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:35.920 Sweden, if you want a pac Man two Boys, you gotta go watch 1449 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.720 that Demoya. There's a lot of that in there. It's real good. 1450 01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:43.720 Maybe I will, But first we need to advise Eric from Sweden on his 1451 01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.600 upcoming trip. All right, he says, in a couple of weeks, 1452 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.079 I'll be visiting San Francisco for the first time in my life. It will 1453 01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:51.680 also be only the second time I'm in the States. Do you have any 1454 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:55.800 suggestions for things I should see and do while I'm in there in order to 1455 01:26:55.840 --> 01:27:00.199 experience proper American and or California and the culture. Yeah, second, any 1456 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.399 second? And tear of Ball. There is a can Can Taco and then 1457 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:08.279 hood Slam is the first Friday of every month. Encore, Encore karaoke. 1458 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:12.359 The place cross from Taco Bell sells forties for pretty cheap. There's a dog 1459 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.520 there. Wish I hadn't. I'm just gonna cut this dog there. Feel 1460 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:18.239 I feel bad for Eric, I will say. Somebody else wrote in asking 1461 01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:24.560 about good burritos in town. Head to the mission and go to Tacarea Cancun 1462 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:29.000 or Lattakaria. Lat Takaia was actually named the best burrito in the country. 1463 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:33.439 Yes, what's actually try that Laakorea and the mission literally the Takaia. Okay, 1464 01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:38.479 so you know it's good by the part station, uh sixteen mission, 1465 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.920 think it. It's not right by there. I want to say, actually, 1466 01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:45.479 I think that might be up closer to the twenty fourth Street station. 1467 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.560 They have the most mind blowing case adia really maybe one of the most mind 1468 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:54.159 blowing things I have ever eaten. Latta Area. Yeah, yeah, they're 1469 01:27:54.520 --> 01:27:58.000 not been there. They're flower case Adio with god I can't remember. I 1470 01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.479 think I got it with Carnetas like they you know, they cook the case 1471 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:05.920 of you heavily with lard. It's one of those like you know about that. 1472 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.760 Oh yeah, you don't want to eat it all the time, but 1473 01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:12.000 holy shit, I really want one right now. Holy shit. It's huge 1474 01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:14.800 to get there from it's huge. You take the bar out from here, 1475 01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.920 and then when together on the box go to Ten Peaks, awesome, it 1476 01:28:18.079 --> 01:28:20.279 is like it, you know, that's pretty out of your way though, 1477 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:26.600 Okay, Twin Peaks. I like Ten Peaks, Alcatraz tour was great too. 1478 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:28.920 Yes, spoke ahead though, yes you have, Yeah, you have 1479 01:28:28.960 --> 01:28:32.520 to book the ferry to Alcatraz ahead of time. But the Alcatraz tour, 1480 01:28:32.760 --> 01:28:38.079 like the recorded like the headphone tour, is actually fantastic. It's because it's 1481 01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:43.159 it's like it's all narrated by former guards and prisoners, and like you're in 1482 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:45.960 like, for instance, you're in the room where one of the escape attempts 1483 01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:48.520 happened, where they're talking about how they got their hands on some grenades and 1484 01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:51.439 dropped them down through a hole in the wall as you're like standing there looking 1485 01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:55.880 at the holes of the shrapnel damage to the walls from the grades, you 1486 01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.800 know, like it it's it's all time. Super well, it's a really 1487 01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:02.439 interesting thing. But also a night tour at Altraz is creepy. I really 1488 01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:05.319 want super creepy. They're stopping soon as well. They only do them during 1489 01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:09.359 the like one half of the year. Okay, yeah, you need to 1490 01:29:10.079 --> 01:29:13.079 the hell of view of the skyline in the city, but also it's just 1491 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:16.520 being out there in the dark is kind of when is the guy coming here? 1492 01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:20.680 Uh? A couple of weeks. A couple of weeks, he says, 1493 01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:25.359 A couple of weeks is when fuck the fans five bro etic justice. 1494 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:35.239 So boys time they've asked the fu Oh yeah no. But even when it's 1495 01:29:35.239 --> 01:29:38.840 not an official the fans event, there's a lot of the fans. Chance, 1496 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:44.920 don't bring your kids. Yeah yeah, also cycled to Saucelito. That's 1497 01:29:44.920 --> 01:29:50.000 a nice one. Sure, it's all right. Across the Golden Gate, 1498 01:29:51.640 --> 01:29:54.600 it's a lot of stuff to do. You can go past the Giant Bomb. 1499 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:59.119 Where are the old Giant Bomb offices over there on Bridgeway? Okay, 1500 01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:01.239 yeah, to cross the street from a wine bar, yes, great, 1501 01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:08.680 and a seafood restaurant, the seafood restaurant and Saucelito on Yeah. All right, 1502 01:30:09.439 --> 01:30:13.000 here's an email from Honk, right, do we have that one here? 1503 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:15.680 Did you have that? All right? I'm gonna give you like five 1504 01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:19.920 seconds. You better make good. Okay, I'm gonna that is not a 1505 01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:25.600 honk car related I never get to use that thing again. Also not a 1506 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:32.119 honk that's stop the boner sounds. That's why the icon, besided is is 1507 01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:39.159 an erect fallace. Yes, Honk asks not just said it was not about 1508 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:43.399 the money, but puff Daddy already explained at length that it's all about the 1509 01:30:43.439 --> 01:30:47.640 Benjamin's baby Benjamin's in Sweden or in these yeah, in these troubled times. 1510 01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:53.159 Who can I trust? Weird al m, it's about pentiums people, right, 1511 01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:58.119 I guess you're right. Uh. And then John John has A has 1512 01:30:58.199 --> 01:31:00.359 the serious equivalent of that question, which is, what exactly does it mean 1513 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.840 to say Microsoft bought mojaying for two point five billion dollars? I mean, 1514 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:08.399 where specifically does that two point five billion end up? I mean it gets 1515 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:11.520 split up based on the ownership of the company. You know, I don't 1516 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:14.279 know specifically what that stuff is. I saw. I saw some kind of 1517 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:17.199 speculative figures. It seems like Nacha is by far the the majority owner, 1518 01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:21.640 something like one point four or something. The figure I saw was that you 1519 01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.359 owned like seventy percent of the company, which means like quite literally, he 1520 01:31:26.439 --> 01:31:30.800 gets seventy percent of the of the two point five billion. And then you 1521 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:32.640 know it's like the community manager. I forget that girl's name, what's your 1522 01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:36.880 name again? She's probably like sitting on at well. You know, that 1523 01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:41.399 assumes that she had equity at all, you know, at some point type 1524 01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:45.000 of company he's that made sure that happens probably, I mean I read that 1525 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:48.520 they were up around forty employees at this point. Okay, so I don't 1526 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:50.640 know, but you're you're right when you're talking about that much money, like 1527 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:55.640 a fraction of a percent is like it like a life changing sum of money. 1528 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:59.039 I am happy for him. What that lettery road where it was basically 1529 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:01.960 it makes like for someone like creative minded, that way makes complete. He's 1530 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.399 very humans washing his hands. Yeah, he's like, I need this, 1531 01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:08.560 Like I was never comfortable with this. I never really wanted this, which 1532 01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:10.960 you know, a lot of people would roll their eyes with that. I'd 1533 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.039 say it kind of like i'd say if somebody who likes making stuff to be 1534 01:32:14.560 --> 01:32:16.239 like, I'm sure he's very happy with his success, but to be labored 1535 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:19.159 creatively like that that you're stuck with this thing, right, must be quite 1536 01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:21.279 difficult. It'd be cool though, if he if he puts some of that 1537 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.399 to use, you know, even if he's not gonna be out there making 1538 01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:28.199 new games directly. Like you know, when he was kind of flippantly talking 1539 01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:31.600 about funding seconds too, Yeah, like he kind of already could before, 1540 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:34.399 but now he could do it without any risk fund like you know, you 1541 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:38.960 know, programming schools for kids in this home country, or you know, 1542 01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:42.239 yeah, yeah, well we'll see all of Africa, yeah yeah, or 1543 01:32:42.319 --> 01:32:45.199 you know, maybe he'll just vanish off into the either who knows. It's 1544 01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.279 weird. Yeah, success has its has its bad sides too, guess. 1545 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:57.920 So all right? Brian from Schaumburg, Illinois wonders. I've often wondered do 1546 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.199 any of the crew have pets? Since I didn't really know, I came 1547 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:03.039 up with some good guesses as to what pet each of you guys would have. 1548 01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:10.279 Jeff as a cat named Cat. Jeff didn't buy or adopt this cat. 1549 01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.000 It just showed up one day. I feel like that's cheating because that 1550 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:15.039 totally happened. Did it really Jeff had a cat that they called cat. 1551 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:17.840 I think it might have been a roommate's cat or something at the time. 1552 01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:20.359 I don't think it was directly his cat, but it lived in the same 1553 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:28.520 place. Is dead now not venture. Guess Drew has a bearded dragon because 1554 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.399 dragons are cool, so our beards. True. I could see you with 1555 01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:35.560 something like that. I could see you with a lizard. Yeah. No, 1556 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:40.439 you seem like the type of person that would keep an exotic like a 1557 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:46.319 tarantula or snake or some kind of lizard something weird. So yeah, I 1558 01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:48.520 don't know. Reptiles don't really do it for me. Yeah, I think 1559 01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:50.880 they're cool. I'm with you, Pat, I'm not really sure totally with 1560 01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:56.840 you. Apparently he thinks I have an elaborate saltwater fish tank with many rare 1561 01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:00.680 fish and expensive corals. Tracy Morgan basically is he Oh he has like sharks 1562 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:02.680 and stuff. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh I would do that. 1563 01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:05.760 I love aquariums. Huh. How they sound like so much work though, 1564 01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:10.479 I actually did have a s like the little uh the tiny sharks that 1565 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:13.800 you can actually buy from the pet store. Wow, they're dwarf sharks. 1566 01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:15.560 Yeah. I had one of those as as a kid. If I was 1567 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:20.920 fabulous, Yeah, if I was fabulously wealthy, like notch wealthy, I 1568 01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:25.800 would put in a wall sized aquarium. Yeah, and pay somebody to come 1569 01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.159 in and maintain it. Yeah, just happens. You get it big enough 1570 01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:31.680 that you can dive in it. Wow. Yeah maybe, depending on what's 1571 01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:38.359 in there. M hmm. I think their aquariums are really nice back backdrops, 1572 01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:44.319 you know, for soothing. It's not snufflake. Dan, don't go 1573 01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:46.359 in there. Yeah, Dan shouldn't have pets. Yeah, I've learned that 1574 01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:50.680 numerous times. I keep wanting to people, you know, we we still 1575 01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:55.039 get the emails. Hey asked Dan about blank and I keep wanting to ask 1576 01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:58.720 you. But I'm worried that there's some kind of it's not a collective. 1577 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:01.880 In fact, it's not overt cruelty. I don't I don't think you would 1578 01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:08.039 do that, but I could see there being no avocation of responsibility. No, 1579 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:11.359 no, I always if I was an asshole, I would have pets, 1580 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:15.680 because I don't I'm not responsible enough for that. Basically. There's one 1581 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.479 time in college I was watching America's Funny Home Videos and I saw some clip 1582 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:20.720 where a dog was running to go catch a thing and he hit a dude 1583 01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:23.720 in the nuts and it was really funny, and I was like, that's 1584 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:26.720 hilarious. Dogs are great, and so I went on Craigslist and I was 1585 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:29.359 like, yeah, I'm gonna find a dog. And so I got a 1586 01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:31.600 dog, and then I went to the bars that night. Yeah. I 1587 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:34.520 fed him and everything, bottom toys and everything, and then I woke up 1588 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:38.159 hung over the next morning. It was like nine o'clock and he was like 1589 01:35:38.239 --> 01:35:40.720 howling, like wanting to go out and I was like, oh, fuck, 1590 01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:43.640 this is gonna happen a lot, isn't it, Like like several times 1591 01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:46.279 a day. It's like I don't know about this, And so I gave 1592 01:35:46.319 --> 01:35:49.479 it to someone on like Facebook or something like the next day. And then 1593 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:53.319 like three years later, when I had an actual place after college, I 1594 01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:55.239 was like, I got a backyard. Now it's now it'll be easy. 1595 01:35:55.279 --> 01:35:57.159 You know, it's got a fence and stuff. You can running around side. 1596 01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:59.359 I can just go out and play, fetch them mylocks or whatever. 1597 01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:02.159 And then that turned out to be too much responsibility too, so I gave 1598 01:36:02.199 --> 01:36:06.680 that away within a day two when my mom works with And then when I 1599 01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:10.600 was a game in the warmer in Minnesota, I thought like I'd always grown 1600 01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:14.359 up with dogs and they're pretty high maintenance, and so people were telling me 1601 01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:15.920 they're like, oh, cats are like so low maintenance, they're super great. 1602 01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.199 And I was like, okay, I'll try a cat. I've never 1603 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:20.439 been a cat guy, I'll get a cat. So I got a cat, 1604 01:36:20.600 --> 01:36:27.760 a baby cat, and named it Macho, a kitten named Macho after 1605 01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:33.359 a mister Savage, and it was pretty cool, you know. We was 1606 01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:38.159 pretty low maintenance. But like I traveled twenty four hours later. No, 1607 01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:40.880 I made it two months and I was tired of like, you know, 1608 01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:43.000 I was traveling for work and stuff, and I was like, I gotta 1609 01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.399 find people to come like check on the cat a couple times, because like, 1610 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:46.600 if I wanted to, I could just like leave it and have a 1611 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.520 self feeding thing or whatever, but like I don't know, I actually care 1612 01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:53.000 and don't want the cat to be like neglected and stuff. So I want 1613 01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:55.039 a friend to go play with it and feed it and make sure it's got 1614 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.880 everything. And it was just hard to set that up and everything, and 1615 01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:00.960 I felt like I was inconveniencing people. So after two months, even a 1616 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:03.199 cat was too much responsibility. So I gave it to Tim Terry of Game 1617 01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:08.600 Informers. So Tim still has Macho it is he still is he still Macho? 1618 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.680 He's still Macho. Tim didn't change the name. Uh So, Yeah, 1619 01:37:11.720 --> 01:37:14.359 because of all these experiences, people keep telling me not they have kids. 1620 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.560 Yeah, they have laws in like most states to where if you have 1621 01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:19.920 a kid and then you just don't want it, like you can just drop 1622 01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:23.680 them off at a fire stations. That's a rule. It's called like a 1623 01:37:23.720 --> 01:37:26.319 safe law or something. Yeah, this one then the road for me, 1624 01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:28.439 that just breaking me out when I first saw him. That is that is 1625 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:30.720 something that that is a possibility. Yet, So if I had a kid 1626 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:32.279 and then like six months later, it's like this is hard work. I 1627 01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:35.560 just take it to the fire station. I'm good, No sweat, darkest 1628 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:40.800 conversation that we've ever had with you, just really saying something. Steve Jobs 1629 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:44.600 was an adopted child. Look what he did. It doesn't damn a child 1630 01:37:44.680 --> 01:37:46.560 to like what do you have against Probably wouldn't have achieved what he did if 1631 01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:49.119 he wasn't. Actually, yeah, that was a big driving thing. Sure 1632 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:51.840 yeah stay there you go. So yeah, it could be uh you know, 1633 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:55.359 I mean there are more formal channels you can go through if you would 1634 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:57.439 like to put your child up to do that too, I would be leaving 1635 01:37:57.560 --> 01:37:59.880 him in a fire station. That's the thing. It's like I love dogs 1636 01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:02.319 and I love kids. It's just like it turns out there's like responsibility and 1637 01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:04.600 ship that comes with that, and I don't ever want to have responsibility. 1638 01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:08.119 Should try to fish if I may twelve months would have fish. Kids are 1639 01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:11.600 probably okay, uh yeah fish, you had to clean the tank and crap. 1640 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:13.600 I don't want to. I just never want to have any responsibility to 1641 01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:15.720 do. I mean, a kid. A kid is higher maintenance than any 1642 01:38:15.800 --> 01:38:18.359 pen ever. I've heard that, but you know what I thought, you 1643 01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:21.319 have to say that. Well, I don't think that he is fully grasped. 1644 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:25.039 But who he is? Okay, maybe a horse. I am smarter 1645 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:30.880 than my dad, and he had me at twenty and I turned out fine. 1646 01:38:30.279 --> 01:38:33.760 So I'm thirty, I'm ten years smarter than he was when he had 1647 01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:36.680 me. So I do fine, Wait, but what age did you stop 1648 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:42.199 learning? I got I started getting stupid or in college? Okay, probably 1649 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:44.960 around like two thousand and two, like you know, age eighteen nineteen. 1650 01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:47.399 That's when I heard. What if you've actually regressed below aged twenty levels? 1651 01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:51.439 I might have. I haven't had any responsibility in so long. Have you 1652 01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:56.560 ever crapped yourself? No? No, no, not even in the drunkest 1653 01:38:56.680 --> 01:39:00.159 No, no, no. Maybe I was a baby. Probably certainly the 1654 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:01.560 baby, yeah, pretty much, certainly. I mean you have to ask 1655 01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.880 my dad for confirmation. Babies have a really hard fun keeping it. I 1656 01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:10.039 had a low tolerance. I gotta build it up. I gotten on our 1657 01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:13.880 toothdache, dad, So I actually picked that bottle of Irish. I do 1658 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:17.079 think if I had a kid, if by some stroke of misfortune, I 1659 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:27.199 had a baby, Wow aboard, No, no, no conversation, that's 1660 01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:30.159 not that's not what I mean. I think I would get my ship in 1661 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:32.039 order and I would do just fine. I actually think I would do pretty 1662 01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:35.960 good. I make it out of the conversation. Just goodness. I think 1663 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:39.359 i'd be a good fun I'll put it. I'll put that out all right. 1664 01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:44.600 We don't ask that any more questions. Oh, you haven't been on 1665 01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:49.640 since he started here? Have you? And I would be Wow, you're 1666 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:55.039 coming home with creative? Yeah, we see plenty. Should pretend that. 1667 01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:59.479 Oh boy, let's move on. What do you say? Sure? Any 1668 01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:03.720 works? Nathan from Olympia, Washington. He says, Hey, have any 1669 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:11.079 of you ever been on a dating website? Oh? Boy? Opened up 1670 01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:14.960 Pandora's box? What man? I feel like I don't even need to read 1671 01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:18.680 the rest of the email. I for what used to go first? What 1672 01:40:18.840 --> 01:40:24.159 did? I actually haven't so I don't have nothing to contribute. What do 1673 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.119 you do if you spot somebody you know in person, especially someone you have 1674 01:40:27.159 --> 01:40:30.960 always wondered about dating, would you try and contact them and go on a 1675 01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:34.359 few dates. Please answer in complete sentences and cite examples. Don't think is 1676 01:40:34.359 --> 01:40:38.119 where that email gets really weird. No, I've seen that even recently, 1677 01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:40.359 like on tender and stuff. You'll see it's like, oh, there's that 1678 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:44.279 person I've worked with or something, and I really I typically have a policy 1679 01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:46.680 of just swiping left, which means saying no, yeah, because I don't 1680 01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:48.520 know, that's just weird, because I mean, if you know him in 1681 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:51.920 person and you're interested, you just tell him in person Naska or whatever. 1682 01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:56.520 So as yeah, it's just weird. I don't know. I don't do 1683 01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:59.279 that as an addend them to that. If you do see somebody you know 1684 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:02.720 and you're at a bar and you've had a few drinks, don't just turn 1685 01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:08.159 it off because you're probably slighted bright and then it might be something you wish 1686 01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:11.159 you ender them just for the last Well you still, I mean, I 1687 01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:13.600 haven't used that thing, but you don't. There's no obligation, right, 1688 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:15.359 Oh no it is not, but there's a but there's a knowledge there. 1689 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:20.479 Then Okay, there's like a you both saw it. Yeah, okay. 1690 01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:27.159 I feel like I feel like the dating world has moved on. Yeah, 1691 01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:32.840 I'm falling behind you. Think hmmm, I think that's uh, I don't 1692 01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:38.880 know. I guess it all depends on the relationship you currently have. Well, 1693 01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:43.279 if you have a relationship, oh with the person. Yeah. Oh, 1694 01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:47.199 like if you see somebody like how well acquainted your ex on there? 1695 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:50.000 I've seen that before really. Yeah, but I've always been friends of my 1696 01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:53.319 exes. Like we usually give each other advice and stuff. When I'll like 1697 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:55.720 break up with the girl, Oh so you on any good okay, Cupid 1698 01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:58.800 dates, whatever, and like we'll give each other advice and yeah, I 1699 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.920 hear. If you say you're a marine, you're a marine. Have you 1700 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:06.319 ever lied Internet? I can't. I am really bad at lying. I 1701 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:11.039 can't do it. So it's all one hundred percent true. So do you 1702 01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:16.119 mentioned two world records? I don't think I do. Wait, how many 1703 01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.000 do you still have? I think I have one active one Mario one? 1704 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:23.840 Yeah. Nice. Yeah, girls are real impressed by the fact that I've 1705 01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:27.479 played Mario for fifty straight hours. But that goes along way. Oh man, 1706 01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:32.239 doesn't do you ever worry about I mean, this this gonna sounds I 1707 01:42:32.279 --> 01:42:35.359 hope this isn't too self adgroondizing. But do you ever worry about somebody seeing 1708 01:42:35.399 --> 01:42:39.239 you that knows you from the internet. Absolutely not like I don't know. 1709 01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:42.439 I've had girls message me being like, oh hey it's Dan from John Bam. 1710 01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:44.920 I'm like, hey, what really, that's nice since you came here. 1711 01:42:45.239 --> 01:42:46.720 Yeah, yeah, well I had a couple times a game in Former 1712 01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:50.479 two. I don't care. I mean, the thing is just don't don't 1713 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:54.319 do things like that. Don't put things on the internet that you don't want 1714 01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:59.159 see. I'm not that's That's not what I'm getting at. I'm saying, 1715 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:01.079 like, with that weird you out at all? No, And they usually 1716 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.600 make a joke of it if they're messaging me. He's like, oh, 1717 01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:04.800 I hope you don't think it's weird, like I's some crazy stock or something. 1718 01:43:04.880 --> 01:43:08.720 I don't. Don't. Don't bother me at all. Okay, fair 1719 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:14.079 enough, Yeah, do you disagree? He seems to be pretty deep into 1720 01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:16.000 the game on this, and he's deeper than me. Okay, So how 1721 01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:18.720 do you feel like I missed out? Like none of this stuff, None 1722 01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:21.880 of this stuff was a thing when I was at night, very long time 1723 01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:27.039 since I was on the market. But man, this is ridiculous, whole 1724 01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:30.399 new world out there. It's so much easier nobody talks to each other face 1725 01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.319 to face. I know, but that's Here's the thing with online dating is 1726 01:43:33.399 --> 01:43:35.560 that, like, and I was talking to Danny about this last night, 1727 01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:39.239 is that let's say I see a cute girl at a bar or whatever. 1728 01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:41.159 And I've never been the guy that like goes up to a girl to bar 1729 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.000 like pick up lines at by your SHOT's like it still that feels sleazy to 1730 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:46.920 me? No, no, no, I never was. Yeah, It's 1731 01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:49.720 like you could talk to a girl at a bar for like three hours and 1732 01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:51.840 all you have to go off. I was like, okay, I find 1733 01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:54.760 them. Attraction's like, oh, we're talking, but like there could be 1734 01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:59.880 huge, crazy deal breaker things about just very core life and philosophical decisions and 1735 01:44:00.520 --> 01:44:02.640 that you're not gonna get to in that conversation at the bar. But the 1736 01:44:02.680 --> 01:44:06.279 way like, okay, cubitas set up, just from five minutes of just 1737 01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:10.199 looking at the way they answer questions or how a profile set up or your 1738 01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:13.199 match percentage or whatever, you can learn way more than you could after like 1739 01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.960 four dates of just someone he met out or whatever that doesn't have a profile, 1740 01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:18.960 and just weed all that stuff out. It's fantastic. Now I'm sitting 1741 01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:23.279 here trying to think what Dan Richard's deal breakers are. They're actually they're pretty 1742 01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:32.000 No, no, no, not consumption I told any of you, I 1743 01:44:32.039 --> 01:44:33.920 don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry I brought it up. I'm 1744 01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:42.760 sorry I included that email. No, man, mind going some really dark 1745 01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:47.560 places. There can't get worse. Oh boy, yeah all right, Colton 1746 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:53.159 from ames Iowa, be kind cold, Hi bombers. My wife loves the 1747 01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.119 show Total Divas. Does that mean she's a fan of pro wrestling? No? 1748 01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:00.880 Is that are those iceling divas that he's talking about. It's it's like 1749 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.560 the Bell of Twins, and I actually I like the show. It's just 1750 01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:06.479 it's the one that like tells you that John Seen is crazy. Yeah. 1751 01:45:06.640 --> 01:45:09.920 Yeah, so you see, like it's not just the devas because like a 1752 01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:12.279 lot of them are dating superstars are one of them is dating a news So 1753 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:15.720 you know, Nikki is dating John Cena, Breeze dating Daniel Bryan, and 1754 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:17.359 you get to see them from time to time and in the context of this 1755 01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:20.960 relationship, and obviously a big chunk of it is kind of reality TV up 1756 01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:24.079 or whatever. But then some of it is just like, wow, this 1757 01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:27.840 is crazy. It's just We're seeing Daniel Bryan go through John Cena's crazy mansion 1758 01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.960 for the first time, and it's illustrating how different their personalities are. But 1759 01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:33.760 no, I think it's a brilliant move because it brings in a ton of 1760 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:38.119 people that wouldn't ever watch wrestling or know any of these characters. Like I've 1761 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:40.960 heard my mom and my sister talk about the show and they don't watch wrestling 1762 01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:45.000 at all. And so if even a fraction of that audience goes and starts 1763 01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:46.680 watching raw because they want to see, oh, who are the Bellows fighting 1764 01:45:46.760 --> 01:45:50.039 or whatever, brilliant. Just bring in as many demographics as it can. 1765 01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:54.319 So, but no, just watching Total Divas is not I mean, you 1766 01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:58.479 watch wrestling. It's a reality show set around the world gay wrestling. Was 1767 01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:02.600 that it's a gay way, Yeah, yeah, could lead to Yeah, 1768 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:06.199 they'll put it on the network then after season two and yeah, get them 1769 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:11.560 back on. Get those numbers up. Somebody asked, who you gotta grow 1770 01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:15.640 out our audience? Yep, everyone does. Onward and upward. Uh do 1771 01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:17.319 you guys remember last week when we got the email from a guy who was 1772 01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:20.119 a programmer in a non video game field. Yeah, yeah, and he 1773 01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:25.239 wanted to get into programming games. Got a ton of emails, Oh, 1774 01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:28.680 recommendations, yes, cool, and they all say the same thing. Really, 1775 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:32.840 It's crazy how in lockstep all these emails are to the point that I 1776 01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.920 just like, I pulled two or three. I don't know if I'll read 1777 01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:40.399 all of them. A couple of them are quite long, but like scarily 1778 01:46:40.520 --> 01:46:45.039 similar in a lot of their recommendations. Let me this one. This one 1779 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:47.800 boils it down pretty well. But but the points may it are, like 1780 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:51.000 I said, pretty universal. Uh. He asks me to read this, 1781 01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:55.720 And honestly a lot of these people are you know, they are employed as 1782 01:46:55.760 --> 01:46:59.840 programmers at game companies right now. Uh, this is for ay who asked 1783 01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:02.119 last week how to break in video game programming, and he just straight up 1784 01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:05.800 and enumerates this like a programmer would. Step one, if you've never programmed 1785 01:47:05.800 --> 01:47:09.880 a game before, program a game to supplement your portfolio and get a feel 1786 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:13.720 for what's involved in game programming. Step two, apply to companies. Why 1787 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:15.560 is somebody calling me on the phone right now trying to read this email? 1788 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:24.800 Declined? Uh? Step two apply to companies. Step three, don't screw 1789 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:28.279 up the interview. Step four prepared to take a pay cut. Huh, 1790 01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:31.960 which was Yeah, that was a pretty universal theme the pay cuts as well. 1791 01:47:33.439 --> 01:47:36.399 I'll, i'll. There's a more illustrative example of that in a second 1792 01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.880 regarding drew speculation about whether the tests are the same as non game industry programming 1793 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.520 tests. There would be a mix of written tests and in person whiteboard questions. 1794 01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.560 They try to find out one what you know and two how you think 1795 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:51.359 through problems you don't know. The answers to the questions can be specialized. 1796 01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:56.239 Here are some freebies. Explain what a dot product is, what's a cross 1797 01:47:56.319 --> 01:48:00.319 product. Here's a whiteboard, write me a linked list. Cloud asked what 1798 01:48:00.359 --> 01:48:02.439 if I want a double linked list? What if I want to delete elements 1799 01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:05.079 in the middle of the link list? How would I minimize the size of 1800 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:11.439 the linked list so it fits in cash? Shall I go on? I'm 1801 01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:15.039 kind of curious. Yeah. Three, here's a whiteboard. Write a function 1802 01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:17.239 that takes two rectangles to find as two pairs of points and tells me if 1803 01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:20.479 they're intersecting right. The same function for two three D boxes. I like 1804 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:30.840 hearing this stuff because it demonstrates just how far from you know what we experience 1805 01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:34.560 as game players. The game has to come from you know. Yeah, 1806 01:48:34.680 --> 01:48:40.359 have any guys in anty programming? Very little. I was a CS major 1807 01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:44.359 for like a year before I realized really, right, so you'd want to 1808 01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:46.279 see in Joba or yeah, see see C plus plus. Mostly this was 1809 01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:53.199 ages ago web stuff language called processing some people. Some people said make sure 1810 01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:57.079 you are proficient C plus plus because it's still pretty weid spread. Last question 1811 01:48:57.119 --> 01:49:00.359 he gave was how might you figure out if a polygons concave or convex about 1812 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:04.920 a polyhedron? Oh? Boy, the hang on, there's a much longer 1813 01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:08.520 one. That's like it was really interesting, I thought, but it's super 1814 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.600 long. I don't know if I really need to read the whole thing, 1815 01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:15.359 but I'm looking for there. Another thing that came up over and over was 1816 01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:21.039 certain times of math you really need and I can't find it. It was 1817 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:26.359 a lot of like matrix stuff. Yeah, I can't remember all the terminology. 1818 01:49:26.920 --> 01:49:30.880 Oh that's yeah, yes, be well versed. If you can see, 1819 01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:33.479 if you can see the code, you got a leg up eat the 1820 01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:35.039 blue pill. I mean it was you know, it was the type of 1821 01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:41.359 math that helps with you know, tracking data in coordinate space three D stuff. 1822 01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:45.439 But this I found this, This is from Ryan this is actually a 1823 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:49.279 good, good example of how this stuff goes. Last Momcast, you guys 1824 01:49:49.359 --> 01:49:51.359 briefly touched on this, and I had a little bit of input. While 1825 01:49:51.359 --> 01:49:55.199 I myself I'm not a programmer, a friend of mine is. When she 1826 01:49:55.319 --> 01:49:58.319 graduated college, she shopped her skills around to a lot of different places, 1827 01:49:58.399 --> 01:50:00.720 both within the game industry and outside of it. The three places most eager 1828 01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.279 to hire her were Boeing, a second big corporation, and Cryptic Studios, 1829 01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:09.079 the developers of her then favorite MMO, City of Heroes. From everything she 1830 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.840 told me about the experience, working at Cryptic Studios was basically her dream job, 1831 01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.079 since she had been playing the game for several years and the position they 1832 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:19.560 were offering was exactly the one she was looking for. But compared to Boeing 1833 01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:25.159 and the other interested corporation, the pay was an absolutely miniscule fraction of what 1834 01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:28.560 she would be making anywhere else for doing half the work. Ultimately, she 1835 01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:30.600 went with Boeing, and of course, City of Heroes development team went through 1836 01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:34.560 several waves of layoffs before having their game unexpectedly shut down in the middle of 1837 01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:41.640 developing a new expansion. We talked about this recently since the podcast brought up, 1838 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:44.840 and she basically just wants to warn people away from working in the game 1839 01:50:44.880 --> 01:50:48.720 industry unless they're pursuing some sort of independent project with a small team. Programmers 1840 01:50:48.760 --> 01:50:53.960 and artists are just too disposable at every major developer instead of changing this at 1841 01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.920 all, a quote unquote difficult employees are easily replaced by one's more desperate for 1842 01:50:58.000 --> 01:51:02.119 work. As all her opinion. Obviously, he knows it's unfortunate, although 1843 01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.920 you know that squares with most of the reality that we hear about. It's 1844 01:51:04.960 --> 01:51:08.199 unfortunate, but it's how the industry works right now. If you want to 1845 01:51:08.199 --> 01:51:10.560 be a programmer on a game, your best option is to make your own 1846 01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:13.279 small team and do it as a side project while you have a more stable 1847 01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:16.439 job keeping you alive. Wow. Yeah, do you ever feel like we're 1848 01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:23.359 warning people away from this type of work? Yeah? Kind of. I 1849 01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:25.279 mean we got an email this week saying, like, how do I get 1850 01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:28.199 into games writing? It's like there's not a lot of work to go around. 1851 01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:30.680 Yeah, and there's less all the time, and it doesn't pay well. 1852 01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:32.439 Some things long and hard, you know, I mean, you know, 1853 01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:34.159 that's the type of thing people do because they love it, just like 1854 01:51:34.279 --> 01:51:38.039 making games. Yeah, I mean making games I think is a far more 1855 01:51:38.119 --> 01:51:41.119 abusive line of work in terms of lack of job security, seems like it, 1856 01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:45.079 and horrible hours, you know, like the you know, we might 1857 01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:47.319 we might work extra hours around the fourth quarter doing reviews and stuff, but 1858 01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:51.800 it's nothing compared to the crunch horror stories that you hear trying to ship a 1859 01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:56.439 lot of games. I mean, I wouldn't warrant it, warn't anyone against 1860 01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.319 it, as long as they're realistic about you know the fact that they're aren't 1861 01:52:00.319 --> 01:52:02.039 that many jobs out there, right, they have fallbacks, and they have 1862 01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:04.760 like a college degree or something like that. Oh, I think they're they're 1863 01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:06.960 are you talking about our line of work? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 1864 01:52:06.960 --> 01:52:10.560 you know it's worth of shot. But I mean, so much of getting 1865 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.800 into this type of work is right place, the right time. Yeah, 1866 01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:15.439 Like on top of having the skill set, I think it's one hundred percent 1867 01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:18.920 persistence. I think that's yeah, that helps certainly, But I think I 1868 01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:24.560 think you're my my situation, it was definitely both. It was a certain 1869 01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:26.960 degree of like trying to do it, but like like you said, like 1870 01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:29.960 it was a shot right at a certain stage, you just need to cash 1871 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.039 your chips and gets head out and right, and you know, there's there's 1872 01:52:33.079 --> 01:52:36.119 no prescriptive set of steps to guarantee easier to get into this type of work. 1873 01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:39.560 You know, there are a lot more jobs to go around in game 1874 01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:44.039 development. But yeah, like the threat of constantly having your team downsized after 1875 01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:45.720 every project ships and that kind of thing. And unless you know, unless 1876 01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:51.199 you're at a valve or something like that where there's relative stability, it seems 1877 01:52:51.239 --> 01:52:57.880 scary. But you were shaking your head about what that the oh, I 1878 01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.640 just oh, yeah, I just don't I don't like the idea given up. 1879 01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:02.079 I don't like the idea of like, you know, I know, 1880 01:53:04.399 --> 01:53:06.800 yeah, no, I just think that anyone can do anything as long as 1881 01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:10.680 they're persistent about it and really just bust their ass. And you know, 1882 01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:13.880 if you don't get the first six, seven, eight jobs you applied to 1883 01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:15.800 or whatever that. I don't like the idea of just you know, calling 1884 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.279 the day and tucking your tail between your legs. I think it's just a 1885 01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:21.039 reason to work harder and get better, and I tell you, get where 1886 01:53:21.079 --> 01:53:24.840 you want to go. I had tried for five years and moved country. 1887 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:28.960 By the time I decided I was done. Really yeah, So like I 1888 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:31.920 was done by the time the game spot hit me up, I'd failed to 1889 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:35.560 get the job twice previously, I was moving to the Middle East. I 1890 01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:40.399 was, I was five weeks away from doing it as when I got the 1891 01:53:40.439 --> 01:53:44.039 email. So like, I'm in a weird situation where for me, getting 1892 01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:45.720 out of that was definitely the best decision for me at that time, because 1893 01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:49.520 I'd spend so much time and energy trying to break in and then I had 1894 01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:53.720 no idea that you hadn't. I thought you just sailed right through. I 1895 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:56.479 was because I moved to London so I could try and get work at games 1896 01:53:56.520 --> 01:54:00.760 by UK. Applied, I interviewed for one job and I lived in Irelands. 1897 01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:02.880 I failed to get us. I didn't get interviews for the next two 1898 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:08.600 I applied for and then the last time they just emailed me somehow, some 1899 01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:12.640 way, yep, somebody, somebody listened to those old doncasts and heard those 1900 01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:16.560 phone calls or not bombcasts, I mean hotspots excuse me, so like its 1901 01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:20.720 podcasts from a different life in that situation, both scenarios were right, like 1902 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:24.600 it was good to stop doing it because you could keep doing it, like 1903 01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:27.279 you probably know people like I certainly know people who have been trying and trying 1904 01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.359 and trying who are way more talented or it just it was the wrong time 1905 01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:32.880 and it hasn't red worked out for them, right, and you know at 1906 01:54:32.920 --> 01:54:35.000 least have a plan b Yeah, yeah, I mean, Dan, I 1907 01:54:35.199 --> 01:54:39.159 admire your spirit, yes, and I you know, I would agree with 1908 01:54:39.279 --> 01:54:43.439 you if we existed in a perfect meritocracy. But you know, there are 1909 01:54:43.439 --> 01:54:47.479 a lot of other mitigating factors. I don't can't impede somebody's progress or enhance 1910 01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:53.319 it. It's never gonna hurt someone to to not give up within within reason. 1911 01:54:53.359 --> 01:54:56.840 You're right as long as I again, like I was out of college 1912 01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:00.159 and working at fucking at Garment GPS doing texts report and I was out of 1913 01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:03.199 college, I already been reviewing games for five years or whatever, and I 1914 01:55:03.319 --> 01:55:05.840 kept doing it. I kept reviewing it in my spare time. Yeah, 1915 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:08.800 because it's like, no, I don't want to do fucking tech support for 1916 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.000 the rest of my life. So like, I spent all my free time 1917 01:55:11.319 --> 01:55:14.880 reviewing like every game that came out, and I did six hundred reviews for 1918 01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:18.239 free before I ever went to game informers. So I mean, I don't 1919 01:55:18.239 --> 01:55:20.319 know, I just think that if I would a cash in or whatever, 1920 01:55:20.399 --> 01:55:24.000 then like what I guess, I'm just you know, I graduated college and 1921 01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.520 I'm working tech sport for the rest of my life. So yeah, I 1922 01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:30.800 just I don't know. I feel that with enough persistence, there are there 1923 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.800 are exceptions, but most people can can get whatever they want. Certainly it 1924 01:55:33.920 --> 01:55:38.359 certainly can't hurt your chances. Yeah, no, it will greatly help your 1925 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:42.680 chances what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, but yeah, this, you 1926 01:55:42.760 --> 01:55:46.479 know, this line of work is weird and changing and shrinking, and you 1927 01:55:46.520 --> 01:55:49.079 know, the the YouTube stuff blew up for a while, but that stuff 1928 01:55:49.119 --> 01:55:53.000 seems largely kind of entrenched at this point now. Yeah, like it seems 1929 01:55:53.039 --> 01:55:56.640 like breaking into that field even if yeah, it would be pretty dodgy with 1930 01:55:56.760 --> 01:56:00.800 some of the very established but even companies are size are having trouble, like 1931 01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:03.760 game Spot having trouble getting seen in that area as well. There's gonna be 1932 01:56:03.840 --> 01:56:08.359 success stories though that that you know, there's going to be another like you 1933 01:56:08.399 --> 01:56:11.199 know, Pooty Pie or Angry Joe or whatever that gets really huge that that 1934 01:56:11.479 --> 01:56:14.520 is just starting like just making an account right now just because he's gonna bust 1935 01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:17.399 his ass and put out good contents. There's gonna be other vectors for that. 1936 01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:20.920 Yeah, that's the bigger thing. You know. It's like when people 1937 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.520 ask us about getting into this specific type of thing, you know, kind 1938 01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:29.039 of more mainstream games, writing and press and stuff like, not a lot 1939 01:56:29.079 --> 01:56:30.560 of positions to go around. You know, it's really hard to it's feeling 1940 01:56:30.560 --> 01:56:35.399 a lot less mainstream man. Yeah, sure, right, yeah, it 1941 01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:39.239 is what it is. You know, it's uh editing, you know, 1942 01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:42.640 worth doing. That's if you love something that much. It's never read that 1943 01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.439 much effort to do it anything. Yeah, it's like you were gonna do 1944 01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:47.159 it anyway every exactly. Yeah, that's kind of how I got into this. 1945 01:56:47.880 --> 01:56:50.760 It's like I wasn't really doing anything else and it's kind of spent all 1946 01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:57.319 my time paying attention to it. So here we are. That's uh, 1947 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.560 that's kind of good for emails. Emails alrighty god, nobody said it, 1948 01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:05.079 didn't you said? I guess I counts. Yeah? Those are a short 1949 01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:09.560 podcast? Is this? I feel like I feel I feel guilty all the 1950 01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:12.359 time. How long has we did it? It's only two hours? Well 1951 01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:14.800 we could just talk about something else if you want. Bride, we're right 1952 01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:17.159 here. We're all friends. Okay, I can talk about my hard lenses, 1953 01:57:18.119 --> 01:57:21.760 right. We were talking about contact lens. Your lenses. Oh yeah, 1954 01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:26.079 I've got my glasses on because I've only got one pair of left. 1955 01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:29.359 Yeah, you were start talking about context. I think you can you have 1956 01:57:29.479 --> 01:57:33.359 dailies, right, yeah, where you can get two? Yeah, okay, 1957 01:57:33.479 --> 01:57:36.680 I said, I've I've worn monthlies for several months. But yeah, 1958 01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:40.399 I cleaned him. That's he's not good. Like sleeping in him sucks. 1959 01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:42.920 Yeah, oh I could. There's no way I could when I got twelve 1960 01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.800 hours. The things feel like they're going to crystallize. They even still make 1961 01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:47.520 the breathable ones that you're supposed to be able to sleep in, I think 1962 01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:49.920 so. I think they do, but they never worked for me. Yeah, 1963 01:57:49.920 --> 01:57:53.239 I can't imagine that. That's the worst feeling. Yeah, Like, 1964 01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:56.359 why do you need to see your dreams better? I think it's just laziness, 1965 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:57.840 right, It's like you put them in and then you don't have to 1966 01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:00.119 take him out. I tried them because I was going on long backpacking trip, 1967 01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:05.960 but I ended up just taking dailies. God fiddling with contacts out in 1968 01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:10.399 the woods worst, So I didn't want to have to clean him my hands 1969 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:15.039 wouldn't be clean anyway. So I brought a bunch of that what do you 1970 01:58:15.119 --> 01:58:18.960 call it? And sanitizer, yeah, and the sanitizer stefka uh and then 1971 01:58:19.039 --> 01:58:21.920 just yea did that before I put him in. My eyes stung a little 1972 01:58:21.920 --> 01:58:26.279 bit. I had one pop ash onto my lid when I was playing on 1973 01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:30.119 goal and in football, so I had I had hard lenses when I first 1974 01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:35.000 started wearing them in sixth grade, and the idea was to keep my eye 1975 01:58:35.199 --> 01:58:39.439 from changing, to keep my prescription from getting any worse. So they like, 1976 01:58:39.600 --> 01:58:42.159 you know, sort of suck on your eye, keep it in that 1977 01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:46.119 shape. But they're really uncomfortable because, as you can imagine, from being 1978 01:58:46.199 --> 01:58:49.399 a hard piece of plastic in your eyeball. And one time I was on 1979 01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:54.640 a trampoline and I guess that landed on my face somehow, and it broke 1980 01:58:54.800 --> 01:59:01.079 in my eye and actually scratched my cornia. Oh yeah, I have a 1981 01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:05.319 fortunately eyes heal real quick. I have a kind of similar story. Yeah, 1982 01:59:05.760 --> 01:59:09.319 yeah, there we go. I was there was a something breaking and 1983 01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:13.840 me getting hurt. Okay, I was in college again, A lot of 1984 01:59:13.880 --> 01:59:16.239 these stories come from college. I've settled down a lot since then. So 1985 01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:23.720 I was I know I used to be. I have settled down significantly since 1986 01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:26.159 college. I was kind of a maniac. But all that stuff is on 1987 01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:28.319 your YouTube John now. Anyways, there's a lot of that bullshit. You 1988 01:59:28.399 --> 01:59:30.359 can just look at it now. So yeah, it was probably like twenty 1989 01:59:30.399 --> 01:59:32.520 two, twenty three, and as soon as I hit twenty one, just 1990 01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:35.359 like the bars and everything was just like all the time and Lawrence so like 1991 01:59:35.640 --> 01:59:40.520 Mastery, which is like the main line of bars and Lawrence Kansas. Went 1992 01:59:40.600 --> 01:59:43.439 to some bar and we were getting a taxi to go somewhere because we're all 1993 01:59:43.520 --> 01:59:45.960 drunk, and I was an idiot college student that used to be like drunk 1994 01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:48.880 and be like, dude, let's steal this eyehop carpet and New Love an 1995 01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:54.000 eyehop carpet in their apartments. Likeway, it was a pretty cool carpet. 1996 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:56.399 I returned it when I moved to Minnesota. I thought, I look here, 1997 01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:59.560 here, here's carpet back. Sorry, I threw up on it a 1998 01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.560 few times. Yeah, But we were waiting for this taxi to show up, 1999 02:00:01.560 --> 02:00:04.520 and we were in some weird lobby areas some building, and there was 2000 02:00:04.600 --> 02:00:08.359 a frame like probably like a foot by a foot and a half. This 2001 02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:11.239 frame picture. I forget what it was. It was something silly or stupid, 2002 02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:13.119 and I was like, oh, I should steal this and put it 2003 02:00:13.199 --> 02:00:15.359 up in my apartment. And so it was a glass frame, and for 2004 02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:18.319 some reason, there was also a chair out on the sidewalk. And so 2005 02:00:18.399 --> 02:00:20.680 we're waiting for this taxi. I'm holding this frame. I don't want to 2006 02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:24.159 get caught, and there's a chair down there, and so I shoved the 2007 02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:28.840 painting down the back of my pants and it's super uncomfortable, and then we're 2008 02:00:28.880 --> 02:00:30.399 just waiting in the taxi's taken forever, and I was like, I'm gonna 2009 02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:33.800 sit down. So I sit down in the chair, forgetting that I have 2010 02:00:33.960 --> 02:00:39.079 a glass frame painting in my pants on my ass, and the glass just 2011 02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:41.920 shatters and I get a bunch of glass in my ass cheeks, and I 2012 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:44.760 was like bleeding through my pants and stuff, and so I had to run 2013 02:00:44.840 --> 02:00:46.439 into some bathroom. I'm like a pull glass out of my butt. I 2014 02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:49.079 just went home all drunk and just sat in a bath Unless you're drunk, 2015 02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:53.279 so you're bleating faster. Yeah, it was just a bad situation for everyone. 2016 02:00:53.399 --> 02:00:56.680 Really. Wow, I was almost hoping you would say that you continued 2017 02:00:56.720 --> 02:01:00.319 on with your night, I know, but I think it was after calling. 2018 02:01:00.359 --> 02:01:02.239 We're just trying to get burritos or something. But yeah, yeah, 2019 02:01:02.239 --> 02:01:04.439 they are the only barrier to him going out again. Was that it was 2020 02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:08.159 last call. It's like, yeah, probably, I probably, I probably 2021 02:01:08.199 --> 02:01:12.279 would have. Yeah, It's like the story of Sean Bean getting stabbed outside 2022 02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:15.119 a bar and then like sewing himself up and just going back in and ordering 2023 02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:16.840 another drink. I was like, who is this? No Sean Bean, 2024 02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:19.880 Yeah, Sean Bean, the actor. Yeah. Really they was in a 2025 02:01:19.960 --> 02:01:23.479 bar in London, wasn't it somebody That's cool? He got into a knife 2026 02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:25.720 fight, or he wasn't in a knife fight. He had a knife pulled 2027 02:01:25.760 --> 02:01:29.119 on him and then he caught his tom open. Then he looked into the 2028 02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:30.359 back of the kitchen, wrapped it up and I don't know what I'm were 2029 02:01:30.359 --> 02:01:32.840 in his hand? Cool? Yeah, he was on a date. Would 2030 02:01:32.840 --> 02:01:36.119 like something? Yeah, okay, that he was on a date. Beautiful 2031 02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:41.640 lady. He was all right, it was yeah, and some guy tried 2032 02:01:41.680 --> 02:01:44.880 to harass her. He stepped in and then the guy pulled a knife. 2033 02:01:44.960 --> 02:01:50.680 Excuse me, I'm Aleck Trivillian. Yes, And then he went back inside 2034 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:55.199 and ordered another point. That's cool. We should all be so bold. 2035 02:01:55.720 --> 02:02:00.399 Give any injury stories. Brad, I've been run over twice Jesus, Yeah, 2036 02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:03.760 no I can't. I've lived boring life. Run over by what a 2037 02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:08.560 car? What? Yeah, you've been like over by a car? Yeah, 2038 02:02:08.640 --> 02:02:10.880 hit by a car at speed? Well, I've been over the top 2039 02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:13.840 of them, but you haven't been run over. How fast means you go 2040 02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:16.119 under the way. That's another American thing. You know, you get you 2041 02:02:16.239 --> 02:02:19.800 get quote knocked down right in the UK. Yeah, let's you say knocked 2042 02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:23.279 down. Yeah, we get hit by a car. Okay, okay, 2043 02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:28.439 if you get run over it that means you physically got there's like a speed. 2044 02:02:28.520 --> 02:02:30.039 There's like a couple of dozen people in San Francisco who think I've been 2045 02:02:30.119 --> 02:02:33.319 rolled over by a car because I've been saying for a couple of months. 2046 02:02:34.319 --> 02:02:38.039 Yeah, how fast was were they going? Oh? Gosh, miles and 2047 02:02:38.079 --> 02:02:42.119 are I don't know how many cars? Second moments was the bottom? I 2048 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.159 was about thirty miles and there maybe, But you went over the top of 2049 02:02:45.199 --> 02:02:48.119 a car. I broke the windshield, broke the side in mirror. Wow, 2050 02:02:48.960 --> 02:02:51.920 my because I hit the corner of it. So my my knee a 2051 02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:55.439 busted in his door as well, and then I went over to the top 2052 02:02:55.479 --> 02:02:58.359 and lon dented a car door with your body. Yeah, they have my 2053 02:02:58.439 --> 02:03:01.000 knee broke windshielded my elbow. And then when I landed on the ground, 2054 02:03:01.279 --> 02:03:03.960 the guy got out of the car and went to beat me up because he 2055 02:03:04.039 --> 02:03:06.600 thought I was going to run away and leave him with like the insurance what 2056 02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:13.119 yeah, but my friend pulled him off me and then what the constable shows 2057 02:03:13.239 --> 02:03:16.199 lots of adrenaline involved. I said sorry, which I shouldn't have said. 2058 02:03:16.199 --> 02:03:21.880 I so I ran across the road of dead looking but he also was driving 2059 02:03:23.039 --> 02:03:27.039 way too fast in town and went around the corner without without indicating rind things. 2060 02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:30.640 We just drove past. He had his wife and like infant shield in 2061 02:03:30.680 --> 02:03:31.720 the back of Well, it was all a bit messy. What was the 2062 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:36.640 resolution? I caused something like three thousand worth of damage to his car and 2063 02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:41.880 I had bruised tendons. Really, yeah they did. They told me to 2064 02:03:41.920 --> 02:03:43.319 go. I was like, I feel like I'm fine. They were like, 2065 02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:45.039 yeah, just give it. Give it at twenty minutes and about twenty 2066 02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:50.239 minutes time, I was like weeping into a friend's like arms when they adrenaline 2067 02:03:50.319 --> 02:03:53.720 ran off, but yeah, I was all right. Well, yeah, 2068 02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:57.079 look across the road. That's intense. Hm. Be careful out there, 2069 02:03:57.279 --> 02:04:00.359 Yeah, don't be an idiot. I think a Morrow of Valdi story. 2070 02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:02.920 I think I need to go lie down though. Yeah. Yeah, thanks 2071 02:04:02.960 --> 02:04:05.840 and Destiny. All right, I'm gonna go get into a prone position and 2072 02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:10.920 rack up some crucible marks. Wonderful. Yep, thanks for joining us, 2073 02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:14.399 Danny. Thank you always a pleasure. Welcome back anytime. I'll but didn't 2074 02:04:14.399 --> 02:04:16.600 talk too much as you talked too much. Should have talked a little bit 2075 02:04:16.640 --> 02:04:21.039 more in your uncle's accent. But other than that you were fine. All 2076 02:04:21.159 --> 02:04:29.000 right, Thank you guys, Dan and Drew. That'll do it. See 2077 02:04:29.000 --> 02:05:00.119 you guys next week for another Giant bomb cast. M M