M M. It is Tuesday, September the twenty third, and I think
that means it's fall now he's fall autumn, thank you? Okay fall?
Whoa? But just why don't you count how many Americans are in his room?
I just found out that you guys spelled pajamas differently. How do you
do? Yeah, p y j yes, yeah, pajamas hi jamas hi
jamas? Is that like t y r e? Yeah exactly? This is
nonsense. Yeah, yeah, really, I know a tear weird. It's
I know. I just wish they gave me a book. When I got
my VSA, it said, this is all the stuff you need to know
because pajamas just blinds your use of the letter you is about to go down.
Hey man, I've written stuff about call of duty. Okay, wait,
that's gotta you look. Medal of honor, Medal of honor. Oh,
the Irish have invaded the Giant bomb cast. He's up. I'm Brad
Shoemaker. That's Daniel Dwyer. Thanks for having me up. That's sweet Daniel,
Daniel. Oh, Daniel by this is great. First Don gives me
a forty of mickeys, so I feel like I'm in Ireland. And now
you're talking like my mom the boy first forty, my first ever forty?
Really? Wow? Did you drink off forty of them? He bought two
of them? He was like, you could have two during a wrestling paper
view. But that's fine, that's two and then a bunch of beer on
top of that. Yeah, but you weren't going to visit a cemetery with
somebody after the fight. I had to make sure I was sober. That's
the other Daniel Young Ricord. Oh, yeah, that's me. I Hello,
Hey, you're scandaling rounding out the cast. Yeah, d three over
here standing standing with arms folded authoritatively at the end of the table, kind
of doing a flying V here as well. Yeah, which people listening to
this audio only podcast. Yeah, so yeah, Jeff's Jeff's out this week
so or today. So I brought you in Danny from Thanks, we'll see
warming. Yeah, I'm from game Spot. One of those people who don't
know who I am. He game spitting games Yeah, game spot game spit.
That's not we don't call it gamespit anymore. Here from all one day,
Dan talk about F one for the next two hours. Hijacked this podcast.
Now do I talk to you about wrestling. Wait you ye last night
and let's forget about brod. We'll just diagram. We'll make this like you've
got you've got your own podcast for that onst oh Man to see uh start
us drive an F one car or have Kimmy Reagan in in the ring.
Dude, we were watching yesterday and Christian really basically looks like Sebastian Fattle.
That's the guy who showed me the picture of Oh, I don't know who
the all that guy was happening. Brad's god over here shaking my head.
I said no, and you're just continuing or advertising our premium podcast. It's
as right, Wait and the odds supposed to go at the top of the
Yeah, there's enough ads already. Man Siles Life, Danny Life's okay,
that's great. D A great weekend. Actually, I wouldn't love traveling.
Last month I was a game's calm and then pass its right, and then
I did this half marathon things. So this is the first time I had
like an actual weekend to myself to enjoy myself. Then did you enjoy it?
I did? It was a new affex to an album came out?
Did that come out? Yeah, wow, okay kind of it's now legally
streamable. Okay, Ali should and you, yeah, I want to hear
it. It's good. It's the first and thirteen years. Yeah. It
counter slide projects. That was cool. I read a graphic novel called Sex
Criminals pretty crazy, and I played some video games. Really yes, wait
a minute, we're only like, like, did we have some minutes into
this podcast? I can't talk about video games? What else is on the
Q sheet? Bro? Well I could. I could just go to my
this chrome, know and look at the tabs that I've got open from before
the podcast. Boy, although I've you know, since I took this podcast
over, I've never bothered to open a web browser on this studio machine before.
I don't like where this is going, don't know, It's just it's
a deep rabbit It's a rabbit hole with no bottom that we could tumble down.
Right if I bring the Internet the Internet, we just speculate wildly.
If the Internet becomes the invisible fifth chair on this podcast, We're done.
No, Yes, I had. I had a forty over the weekend because
I feel like me and Donna are involved in this sort of long running culture
exchange. Because I gave him the figs on upf How was that you?
Yeah? Okay, well the fig roles they're like this, it's basically a
fig Newton. Yeah, they're good. They're good. He never had figs
before. I thought they were sticks. Yeah, remember what you thought figs
were sticks? Yeah, and now I keep hearing about how they're just like
a bunch of dead washs or something. And now that's great sticks, you
ate them. Yeah, but you people keep tweeting me like you're eating ruin?
Yeah, what's the dead wasps? Nonsense? Well, I haven't really
done the research, so I can't. The theory being that wasps die inside
of because they're you know, they eat fruits. It was like a drastic
park situation. Yeah, they die inside the fig and then the pig.
The figs get picked and then ground up into fig Newton's. But like there
are tolerances for that kind of stuff in every field. Oh yeah, like
you are allowed point o o o one percent of rat feces in Yeah,
you can look it up, like the FDA has regulations catch up, you
know, like here's how many like rat droppings and rations for arsenic levels?
Yeah. Wow, Hey, we had like taco bell Yes, yeah,
probably that was probably mostly it's like point five percent. And then the actual
meat is just faces and arsholes. That's fine, delicious faces and assholes.
And no, I didn't just have talked about I had to talk about and
KFC since we went to the not Kin Taco Hut, but just the taco
Kin taco. I got a big bowl of macaroni and cheese with Myotkin taco,
like the finally guy and mart of combats too. Ken Taro was buddy,
Okay, you just got mac and cheese. Technically all got coleslaw,
which was from the KFC. That's true, that's true, and of course
not chose Bella Grumde. I've never gotten that. It's pretty great. I've
only got normal nachos cheese. Yeah. Yeah. How did you feel after
that incredible meeting of culinary Uh? Pretty good? After forty Mickey's oh god,
and really firing on all cylinders and as much America as you can how
American pro wrestling fans do things. He was literally working stars and stripes pants
wait from the rubble, the same pants. It's not just from the rumble.
Many for many occasions, twenty pairs of stars and stripe pants because you
wear I have one pair now because the last pair got destroyed after years of
being caught on fire. Getten bicycle belt for two gears. I think I
was telling Drew about this. Yeah, I ran down the street in college
with lit Roman candles in the pockets and they they burnt through. So I
burnt my thighs and they destroyed my pants. Yeah who saw that comment?
So yeah, excited by one when everskuy I wear the USA pants and any
forever life events, it's important really only of American heroes. Yes, yes,
no, no, they're come in handy wow. Whenever I skydive is
a sentence that not many people can say. Truth and Racord can. It's
thrill seeker. Yeah, and everything is up food. I don't have a
conclusive answer on the wasp isshue. I'm gonna go ahead and not eat them
until I get a conclusive answer. I found I've been eating wasps. I'm
during that upf you feel, Buy a fig and open it up, and
if there's no wasps inside, you could be fine. And a fig it's
just like a normal fruit thing that looks like an apple. Do you look
like an apple? It's kind of a it's a tear drop shape when it's
like brown and leathery like a pair. More so, they're small like a
prune. Yeah, they're kind of the size. I don't think've eaten a
prune and like a big raisin. Be carefully, we'll be tell you if
you ever tried to, if you never decide to sample a prune, doesn't
that make you all crappy? You should? Yes, tread lightly. I
would say, like two prunes and you're good. Oh it's a diuretic or
something. Is it's a diretic tea or laxative? Makes it crap? Yes?
Yeah, if you if you were to say, like sit down with
a bag of prunes and just snack. Oh yeah, because prune juice is
like that could just water. That could go poorly. Okay, you might
regret. That sounds like a challenge. I wouldn't know. Oh my god,
sounds like it sounds like premium content prune challenge. I do it,
sucking, let's do it. Oh my, I wonder how big? How
big a bag of prunes can you get? A costco? I totally do
that's fine. Oh my god, I don't like what I'm not even the
one offering myself up for sacrifice. I don't like where this is going.
I love four prunes. If you eat half a jar mayonnaise just a plane
No, absolutely not. Wait, your problem is that it would be plain.
I think I think he's allowed to eat it on whatever he wants as
long finishes read upon amount of mayonnaise. No, I'm not doing that.
I used to dare my friends, like, buy a five pound bag of
hot Tamala's and eat it all in like thirty minutes. My friend did it
once and then just puked up. Just this absolutely, Mike, Oh,
I never even told my triple mac and cheese story from college. I don't
know that it's happening. It's happening. I thought I thought that. Okay,
So Kraft macarunn and cheese is objectively one of the best foods. Are
we talking about Kraft Dinner? He is the most like that. You're talking
about the Blue Box, right, Yeah, that the classic Blue Box,
which is the standard things. It's it's the greatest thing in the world.
And I would always experiment with it and put just like way too much butter
in there, and it was super good, but there was always a finite
amount of that cheese until after I did this. The powder you can buy,
yeah, the powder you can buy separately now. But I thought,
like, well, man, when I put a ton of butter in,
it's great. What if I just put a ton of cheese in? And
so before I went to the bar one night in college, I bought three
boxes and I took all the powder from all three and put them all in
one thing of noodles. Wow, And I ate it and it was super
cheesy and super good. And I got to the bar and I had like
one schooner and just puked up like Nickelodeon orange, like fucking disgusting. Like
I tried to get to the bathroom. I think I mostly got in the
bathroom, but it was like Neon orange bullshit all over the bar floor.
Tell you about the substances you're putting in your body. I just I flew
too close to the sun. You know you're not the chorus of mac and
cheese. I guess that's one way to look at it. A wax stomach.
Hey, Danny, you are free and clear to talk about video games
now. Oh my god, let's move on. God. I was already
feeling ill before this podcast. I figured out how I can enjoy playing Destiny
because I don't. I'm a sociopath, Brad, I don't like that's not
true. I don't like playing with other people that much. I never got
Borderlands so much because I don't like having to like when I okay, when
I played World of Warcraft, I basically soloed. I did really slow.
I enjoyed the exploration and enjoyed the sort of lonely progression. I love games
like Fallout and Skim because I just enjoy being on my own in those worlds
and experiencing Destiny. Great game, you know, okay, you know,
not a great game. It's it's pretty, it's all right. I think
it's I think it's good. Whatever, it's you know, it's prelimited,
but whatever. I can see why people would like it. Who playing groups.
I don't necessarily do that. But I figured out a way of actually
enjoying it, and it's I did by accident because I was listening to if
x an album and I went, I'm gonna play some multiplayer because that's brainless
nonsense. And I went into the Crucible for a while and leveled up,
and I was like, oh, now I can like do all those missions
in the single player like slightly, I'm slightly like over levels for them and
it's really fun. So this was before well before you hit the level cap.
Oh, I'm like level nine or something. Yeah, that's how quickly
I got bored of Destinate. You played that game for like a whole day
though that was on someone else's on the internet. Was Yeah, that was
annoying. I had to restart when I started. That's a shame. So
it is. It is kind of an interesting system that they've got where you
can you're gaining the same experience in both modes, you know. Yeah,
whether whether you like Crucible is basically just straight up you know, traditional Bungee
multiplayer or you're doing the PV missions that it's quite a novel. It's like
it's like a weird experience the first time you actually because you know, there's
a little fan fair when you level up, you know, it's kind of
a flash of light and level up on the screen or whatever, and like
that happening in a multiplayer match is like kind of jarring, yeah, because
you don't think about gaining RPG levels in a deathmatch scenario and it happens ready
to be quickly considering you're basically just doing more player which, like you know,
you're guaranteed a certain amount of points in every game if you're playing to
a reasonable level. It'll always get captures, you will always get kills every
now and again, or at least assists. And they're pretty forgiving about that
stuff as Yeah, and loot drops at the end or really hopefully Oh yeah,
sorry, sorry, Yeah, I think a number of teammates will get
loot at the end of each match. Yeah, is it? Is it
more than just the guy who gets first? Oh, it has nothing to
do well, ostensibly, it has nothing to do with performance. Really,
you're talking about the dropping. Yeah, no, it's totally I really I've
gotten I've gotten a lot better. It's crucible, like I was finishing last
for the first couple of days I was playing it, and now I'm coming
in toward the top and then totally the same ana gootally anyway, totally the
same loot trop rates. I'm enjoying it a lot more as well, just
because I think the genuine shooting in the whatever campaign or whatever Destiny proper is
I find quite trice. Not really, it's not that clever. It's like
the alb and stuff. It's it's weird because the AI gets a lot more
active on the higher difficulties. Like I'm I'm pretty deep into the end game.
I'm almost level twenty five now. Uh. And when you start doing
the heroic like strikes some stuff, Yeah, you're doing level twenty four type
missions. Like the guys move around a lot more. They take cover a
lot more often. Like some of the late game enemies have stuff like jet
packs and they'll go flying all over the place, like they're guys with shields.
Not not energy shields, but like literal shields. Yes, I like
that stuff. And that was in Vain No, that was on Yeah,
yeah that sounds quite cool. But yeah, but you know, the stuff
starts getting a lot more, a lot more interesting. It just takes so
long to get interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. There's a grind,
and I know absolute inevitably be a grind in that game. That the
game is a bad grinding it is. It absolutely is. Like I it's
not defensible, like the game as as the endgame currently sits, like,
there's no way you can defend it. You can just like it or not.
Yeah, you know what I mean it's like, I I gotta like
it. What's that don't eat? Yep? Exactly? Do you like this
country? Hey, look, I'm sorry, I didn't know Pajamas was about
that way. Grand Christ America grinded, relieve it something like that. Yeah,
I've I've gotten really into the Destiny end games since the last podcast for
whatever reason, Like I had never ground. Can you say that ground ground
for loot? Yeah? In Diablo it's a past tensive grind. So yeah,
Like I was never the type of person to run, you know,
the same dungeon over and over and over looking for loot, but for some
reason in this game, I just keep coming back to play. You've run
the same dungeon. No, that's not the same thing, not even really
the same thing. That's every game of Doda is completely different. Do you
like the Ablo right? I do. So there's a certain part of you
that enjoys repetition and progression. Yeah, progressing in Scalan Doda and you're progressing
in acquisition sure, right, sure, But I mean Destiny is a situation
where by the time you get to the end of the game, by the
time you had the level cap, you've seen all the content. Yeah,
basically like I had a couple of strikes I hadn't done when I finished the
story. But like, if you decide, if you commit yourself to engaging
the end game in Destiny, you were going to play a bunch of content
you've already played over and over and over, and that's it. Like that's
all there is you can play. You can keep playing Crucible, or you
can keep playing the you know, the missions that are in there, and
they get harder and more interesting to play, but it's all if you've seen
I feel like the sort of grandiose talk that was about this game sort of
it was not particularly good for it in some way, or maybe I was
wrong in how I perceived it, but on the scale of like is this
a you know, very linear shooter with a sort of tight enough campaign too,
this is getting towards an MMO level of like do you remember that feeling
in Warcraft? Whereas no matter when you were playing Wow, you always felt
like there was nine hundred times more stuff happened. Oh that was like that
was amazing, Like the poll of World Warcraft was it just felt like there
was limitless possibility, like you could receive felt endless. Yeah, like you
couldn't. Yeah, you totally did not know where it would end, whereas
Destiny is like you were running through the same area as everything. That's fine,
that's the game that they made, but it wasn't the sort of experience
that I was expecting. Perhaps, I mean, there are even a lot
of little things they could have done within the framework of what they made that
would have made it better, and like different game modes or something, or
you know, even even having you spawned in you know, there's only four
major maps, and even having you spawned into each map in more than one
place. You know, it was supposed to starting in the exact in place
every time you go down to a planet. But I don't know. At
a certain point, I just was having so much fun shooting stuff in it
and grouping up with people and playing the harder and harder missions and like,
yeah, technically read about the sign it plays really well. And then once
you once you fully decide to learn how the endgame works, like you can
kind of see a logical progression to it, even though some of the drop
rates and like the way the loot works is kind of bullshit. But you
know, if you start grinding Faction rep if you look at like, okay,
I can earn, you know, a hundred of the Crucible currency a
week, one hundred of the Vanguard currency, you know, from the multiplayer
and the single player, Like you can see where you could come out the
other end with all the loot that you want and then move on to that
raid, which sounds like that raid sounds like what Destiny should be, top
to bottom. Yeah, Like I understand, I certainly understand siloing off some
of the best content for like the really hardcore endgame people. But the design
philosophy is I haven't seen it, you know. I've been kind of avoiding
specifics about it because I want to figure it out myself. But a lot
of the design philosophies you hear about in there, where they're like real environmental
puzzle and like multi stage boss fights where you really have to coordinate with people,
and they're like interesting dynamics to the way the game plays, like some
of that stuff. Yes, really, Yeah, there's like four bosses.
It's like a traditional MMO raid where they're like different wings to it with a
boss at the end of each part. And again I don't know a whole
lot of the specifics, but there are different Yeah, it's it's a whole
new map. It's all new bosses. But it's even a lot of like
again like environmental stuff, you know, like oh, you have to activate
three separate points on this map and hold them for x amount of time to
get this door to open, and stuff like that, like just stuff that's
not in the campaign at all. Yeah, it's like I really want to
play it. I mean, can you save in the middle of it?
Or is it okay you can't. Yeah, they're doing the MMO thing of
the fire team leader that goes in, like you just have him be the
fire team leader again or her? Do you need to you with that same
fire team Yeah, well I think it's just the leader. I'm not positive,
but they stressed like make sure the fire team leaders there because these raids
are like, wow, they're like MMO raids. They take Yeah, I
mean the first the first group to crack it, it took ten hours.
Wow, that's kind but that's you know, it's all world first, like
yeah, you know, nobody's done this before. It's and I think they
died like fourteen hundred times or something like that. In the final analysis,
it was like when MC became was this massive thing and then suddenly people were
doing it like in another time once went right, It's yeah, it's totally
I mean, in fact, like I had heard this before, but I
became acquainted with the term farm status as we were running a heroic strike the
other day, where it basically means an encounter is solved, right, Yeah,
like it's farmable. You know, it's like, oh, we know
how to do this, We're just gonna go in and do it. You
know, this is not super challenging now because we know what the particulars are,
which at a certain point just makes it start feeling like a job,
you know, yeah, because it's like, oh, I'm gonna go raid
tonight to try to get loot. But that also feels great because it's it's
the thing that used to be like instrumentable. It's and then suddenly you're really
good at it. It's not to jump off immediately. But I was playing
Phoenix Rage, which is that meat Boy. Well, I'm not sorry,
I don't want say it's not meat Boy game. It's it's it is the
easiest comparison something meat Boy, where the level that you think is completely impossible,
suddenly you were burning through and that's a really powerful like feeling in games
totally, Like I think you know as as you were right, it does
kind of make it when that stuff you reach that point, then it's all
to bay get into the next one and doing it again, right, But
that's great. And then you know they combine that in Destiny with the carrot
on a stick of better loot at the end. But I don't know some
of the some of the requirements for that stuff are so rigorous that like I
really want to play the game and get that stuff, but now other games
are coming out that we need a review and cover and stuff, and all
of a sudden, like I had all these ambitions for what I was going
to do in Destiny because they've got the weekly a lot amount of currency you
can earn and stuff, Like I was like, man, I love this
game. Of course I'm going to earn the maximum on both sides this week.
And like we're I think like eight hours away from the reset right at
the time this recording, and I'm not even like halfway there. Isn't that
big DSc happening around Christmas time? Yeah, the first expansions coming out in
December. You're going to be playing nash on your Christmas break. That's what's
gonna happen. Man, you're saying I'm not gonna get to play it until
then? No you Yeah, maybe, man, maybe they'll chop off.
Like the people I know they're on they're playing non stop every day, Like
I can't. I can't keep up with that anymore. Yeah, you don't
need to either. I feel myself falling behind. Mind though, I know
there are people that I was playing with they are now like three levels above
me. So I don't know just well, I mean, do you know
how the endgame works? Any of you guys know? It's some crazy thing
where you have to do math associated with your gear or something that's kinda not
exactly. I mean, there's no maths, there's a real math ata.
Has anybody hit the level cap? No, man, I'm talking the wrong
group of people. What's the highest is twenty five? Twenty is the cap?
Well? Yeah, but then you can do all the crazy stuff yellow
numbers, and so I believe the actual hardcap with gear is thirty. Okay,
I think the highest anybody's gotten is like twenty eight that I've seen.
There might be thirties out there now but yeah, it's you know, it
all comes down to that stat called light that they introduce on end game gear.
But you know, at that point you are literally just hoping for good
drops, you know, so you are not leveling out. Well, no,
you're not listen to your XP turn into some other kind of current year
that turns into modes of light which you can spend on, like mostly trivial
stuff that doesn't really matter. Cool, it's all trivial stuff that doesn't say
that what is life does matter. Whole life is a lie. Now you're
you're earning the marks that I was talking about by playing multiplayer and the strike
stuff, you know, like you can you can spend those on on gear
that is guaranteed to level you up. But we're talking like, god,
I don't know twenty hours, I am never gonna get that stage. I'm
okay with that. I'm just estimating. I don't know. I've played a
bunch and I have like a decent amount of that stuff, but not enough
to buy what I really need. I wonder what assigning rewards to the multiplayer
does for people in terms of the way that they think about it and approach
it, because like if I if if that had been there for Halo three,
I don't know if I would have played a lot more of it or
a lot less of it. I bet it stops people from thinking that multiplayer
is a waste, yes, like absolute, from thinking I could be leveling
off. Yep, it's that's like that? Or does it put a cap
on it? It's like, you are you need to play so much of
this it's it's worthless to even start well. From a broad perspective, it's
nice that you can do either one. You know. It's like, oh,
I'm tired of running strikes, so I'm gonna go play some crucible right
and always feel like you're making some meaningful progress. But the way they have
divided those two things, you earn different currency from the two sides, and
they can't be combined. They can't even be spent at the same vendor,
So in a way, you're still kind of working against yourself when you switch
from one to the other. Like if you truly want to minimax your gear,
you'll focus on one or the other and justus do that, right,
Like they want you to be invested in your character in that world, like
this is a game, this is a ten year contract doctor, they can't
have a bungee, Like they want people to be invested in that ecosystem as
much as possible. It's like it's like all that Halo stuff they're doing with
the crazy Halo app and like they are so into just you are a Destiny
player. Hey, when Call of Duty comes out in a couple of months,
you know you're gonna want to level opped up that and they're probably gonna
shoot at a bunch more extrallentle bits on there. Like I bet the first
weekend the college comes there, they'll be like double XP land on Destiny or
some sort of them. That's all. That's all activision kind of working against
itself though, But oh yeah, that's good pointing. You know, I
don't know a Call of Duty's gonna sell to the people it sells too,
and that'll be fine. I mean, Destiny almost appeals to kind of a
different crowd, right, And I think first person people people I know who
are really into Destiny or not, people I traditionally think of as a big
Call of Duty. How many teenagers? You know? I know tons of
people that love Halo and Call of Duty. You know, I don't think
they're exclusive but I don't think they're selling Destiny too. I think they're like,
maybe I'm super being reductive about this, but I think they're selling this
to kids, like not to two younger players really because this is their IP.
It's like they grew up watching their older brothers and sisters nain games like
Halo Called of Duty, and this is their IP, their first. They're
like online connected worlds, like all these post Minecraft kids who are like turning
thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. It's going to be around for ten years.
Nobody says they're gonna make three games on a ten year deal unless they're targeting
young people who are going to have money by the time it's over. People
gonna buy into it and stick with it. Yeah, like maybe they're not
going to target, you know, people in their late twenties. And third,
if they think it's going to be like a ten year thing, everyone's
gonna get married and have kids and get all boring. Destiny is not a
game to play if you have responsibilities. Also true? Yeah, Like that's
absolutely true. Either is dotat, Either is video. Yes, there you
go. That's why I played a bunch of indie stuff this weekend. Yeah,
I felt a little bit better about Yeah, like what Never Ending Nightmares
is that? That was a kickstarter right, Yes, And I should say
upfront I actually did drap money in on that one, all right, full
disclosure disclosure was that the don't tell me I think I got this? Was
that the Retrograde guy. Yes, Yes, Matt Gillenbach. So he made
that game Retrograde, which was a sort of a like bullet Hell you could
use a guitar. Yeah, traditional scrolling shooter totally bombed. Yeah, he
walked on it for about four years maybe longer. Five did not was not
commercially successful. And he's an interesting dude who kind of like I've like I
have done videos about mental health and stuff like I have a history of the
depression and OCD and whatnot. He's clearly had his own stuff as well,
and after that game tanked, he had a kind of a pretty bad dark
period in his life. So he's come out with this game. It's out
on Friday, I think, really the final version, Yes, dusted.
I'm not actually sure how much may I talk about it, so I'll just
keep it pretty vague. But it's basically like a really well drawn have you
seen any art first? It's like sketch art, but it's fantastic. I
think it's kind of monicomatic black and white, yeah, and then there's there's
like elements of like red coming through, and the interactive stuff is in color.
It is one of those games where you just need to put your headphones
on, turn off the lights, and just run with it, like a
sort of a if you're like picking up a movie you're not really sure about.
And I don't really think it will necessarily be to everyone's taste, but
the people that resonates with it will resonate pretty hard. Like it's the imagery
and the like. The sound design is great, the music is great.
It's all about repetition. It's never ending nightmares. You literally like are going
through sort of similar areas. It's like repeating and getting worse and worse.
And it's one of those games where I feel like at moments I was like
I stuck. It keeps repeating itself, but then you're getting more and more
tense and more and more freaked out by the experience. It's very effective.
It sounds kind of like PT as far as like the repetition and just doing
things over and over and very unsettling or whatever. Is it that same thing
to where you're going through the exact same environment over and over and certain elements
are changing. It's the yes, exactly. I'm getting worse. I'm getting
individuals because they're sort of, you know, it's cartoon sketch kind of stuff,
very minimalist, very well drawn, but when they do something that's really
kind of quite ghastly, it's really quite ghastly. Like there's there are I
don't want to say, I feel like there's a game people who's just play
and not not not even watch a trailer, just kind of check it out.
What is it though? Is it an adventure game? I mean,
how are you so it's a two D Get reductive here? Okay, it
is a side scrolling it's an adventure game. I guess you're controlling this one
individual who's waking up in his bed and is walking outside the door, and
you're basically moving from whole way to room inside of this house, presumably his
house, looking for his sister, who he's worried is dying. He's got
asthma, so you can't really run that long. There's a there's a hardly
any buttons in the game. There's one to interact and then one to basically
run. When you run and he starts like wheeze and stop. And there
are certain times in the game where you have to like avoid elements within the
world which are trying to hurt you or whatever, monsters or stuff like that,
or the darkness, which is another thing. If you go into the
darkness, it will kill you. Wouldn't say you get like you pick up
a lamp a light and you can walk around with that, and the light
stuff where you pick up an axe and you can use it to break down
the door. But those interactive points are quite few and far between. It's
mostly about the sort of empty space between them and how you react like to
that. So it's it's it's a linear I think there's something like I don't
know how many of the nightmares there are, but they I have been.
I've gone through like processes where I'm inside of this house for quite a while
and then something awful happens to suddenly I wake up in a different environment,
and then I'm in there for a while. And it's a hard game to
sort of It's it's unsettling, and I'm only about halfway through at the moment,
but I've I've enjoyed it because it's just like these types of games don't
come around very often where they're not necessarily just trying to entertain you constantly and
you know, fancy explosions or even just like placate you. Like this is
a game that has been very much made in his image for to express how
he feels about something, so you can sort of like whether or not you
actually like it or not, it's kind of secondary. I feel like it's
it's you're really what you're really like exploring it to to get something back out
of it, kind of like stuff like Journey, where you know you're going
to set aside a couple of hours play this thing and then go all right,
yeah, I mean from that, it's kind of an element of the
otur about it, right, yes, Like like you know, it's the
output of one person kind of like all of their sensibilities and and and feelings
and hang ups and whatever kind of man in this thing. Like that's you
know, not something you see that much games because they're they generally require so
many different people with different ideas to bring about. And I appreciate love it,
especially because I'm definitely an advocate for people talking about mental health issues or
talking about their own experiences, or at least like opening up to it.
And I I am very happy that And this is the reason why I because
I tend not to throw money behind kickstarters because as a you know, working
in the games press, it seems like a little bit of a conflict.
But for this one, because it's so dear to my heart with that sort
of stuff I was, and because he had had such a failure before and
this game was barely funded like it got I think within the last twenty four
hours. I remember the day, I remember the push for it, yeah
before it did it. And the hope is that perhaps this will help people
come to terms or start a communication with themselves about that sort of stuff.
And as a game, yeah, I found experienced one so far. Anyway,
I have to check that out. Yeah, I paid the kickstarter just
well, don't I'm not. I'm not getting any money from it. I'm
not getting any money from it. Good, you're playing the game video games.
So it's out the backers. Now, I assume I don't know.
I got a copy because we're gonna maybe do something on it. Okay,
we'll see maybe someone else will. I'm not reviewing it, all right,
I pay Phoenix Rage as well. Yeah, yeah that's great. Yeah,
I've had my eye on that. I've played in the packs. Uh,
it's absolutely you know, the meat Boy comparison to spot On. You know,
it's not a clone, but there are some more elements. You're your
sprite is tiny, tiny little dude running around these big kind of labyrinthine Yeah,
two D platforming levels, a lot more mechanics in terms of being able
to like you can double jump and like a dash and stuff. Right,
you guys paid this at all? It's not it's is it the meat Boy
developers? No? No, no, no, no, okay. And
I bet I bet the developers are sick of people saying meat Boy there easiest
Touchstone. It's maybe my guy from Brazil. I think I think that's the
case. Yeah, and PC. I'm playing on Steam on PC. I
think I think it's only out on PC. At first, it's a two
D control, a little kind of thing that almost looks like a square.
It's way faster though, and you if there's a start point than an end
point, and if you get to it and it's difficult and it starts out
at the start, being like, you know you will die and it responds
you instantly. It's I'm sold already. Yeah, that sounds great. Time.
You can tell he's been making this game for a while because it feels
like that. And I played End Plus Plus as Packs Ease, Our Packs
Prime. I just love these games so much. Real difficult to d Like
one little level and then you're on to the next one. You're like,
god damn it and you put it down and then you're like one more.
I mean, there's there's there's nothing like that super hard game that controls exactly
like you wanted to, right, you know what, you know what I
mean, like when you never feel like you're fighting the controls and then everything
is your fault exactly every time you die, you're just mad at yourself,
right, And it's not easy to do. And that's why Super Me Boy
it was probably so successful because yeah, you never felt like it was the
game letting you down. And this one's called Phoenix Rage. Phoenix Rage.
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna get that. Yeah, I think at the
ni Yeah, okay, it kind of looks like a little Sonic dude.
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, I need to check that out. But
yeah, I'm also not sure if that's out yet or if I should be
talking about it. Sorry, really did when you came in here? Yeah,
hey, let me talk you about that new rock Star game. You're
gonna whoa just like just jack booted thugs coming here, Noir club us and
drag us out of here? Oh? Is that it? Pretty much?
What am I gonna have to do to convince you to play Destiny with me?
You're not Are you ever even gonna make it? In the level cap
I played with the Nest. With the Nest, I played with Alexis a
little bit okay, Yeah, I've been playing with him so yeah, he's
got like three characters based on different friends he has that are at different levels
kind of smart. Yeah, I guess he plays a lot. I don't
know. I yeah, I don't know. I mean, if you're not
down for that lud grind, like you're not, I'm really not. You're
not gonna get anything out of the end game. Even in Wow. When
I got to like level forty five, every rolled Yeah, that's That's the
weird thing is that I did the same thing. I played a character like
up to not even sixty, like right year sixty when it first came out
and then started another character Like, I had no interest in grinding gear and
attunement and going to raid and stuff. But I mean, this game is
basically the same thing. But for some reason, I'm totally into that stuff.
I don't know that just that raid sounds so cool. I really want
to see it. We will see look it up on YouTube. Is the
internet. But I need whatever probably scree shot and jomp on it. I
need whatever Looke comes out at the end. Drew, Yes, Hello,
Hello, what's up? Oh you know do huge? Yeah? The Huge?
Yeah? Such as game wise, I think it's just been you know
destiny. Yeah, how far in are you? I'm like ten? Really?
Ten? Yeah? Sure, like the bungee guy. I thought you
would attack that vigorously. I have been, Yeah, I just haven't had
a lot of free video game time. That's what happens when you do other
things with your life besides video games. Yeah. I eat Greek food.
It's pretty much all. I did this again. I went to a Greek
festival morning at night. Just non stoff, you never never ceased putting food
in your mouth. Only the only real big point of interest what Greek food.
Did you eat? It was at a It was a It was a
fundraiser for a Greek church. I don't know. They just it's free.
They they do this every year. They invite you and you go into their
like church, their basketball into their basketball court in their church. Wow,
they have food around the outside. Do you just pay like seven bucks per
item? Load up? Is it just hummus? They have uzzo? Oh
so good? Why was there a basketball court in this church? We you
never met a church? Yeah? Are we doing America? Yeah? Okay?
On Michael, Jordan's so popular, it's actually the second Coming of Christ.
Whoa Hachimio? Ali? Juan was Judas? I don't even know who
that is. I think you're you're officially more American Ryan. I only know
who's which. Jordan was not in Oh, Jordan's not in jams like any
of them, any of the jams. Jordan. No, he had his
own Players Association license or whatever. Really he would always sell his own game.
So that means like business wise, that means if you got the NBA
player license like that included everybody but him. I think so, because yeah,
the Bulls had like Grant Pippin. I'm sure Jordan was in one of
them. I mean maybe later on, but I mean, if we're talking
Classic NBA JAM and then Tournament Edition, I'm almost certain he's not. I
thought it was. In fact, Shack was only in like one of him.
I think like Tournament Edition. He might have had his own deal too
for one of them. Maybe we got him in Europe, had the International
Michael Jordan Rice. He had Chaos in the Windy City and Supernintendo throwing flaming
basketballs at bats and a hunted house. That sounds all right, he gets
like ice balls and yeah, you just don't get those anymore. That's really
terrible like that. I never read Michael Jackson the movie What was it that
gis game? Yeah, gets Moonwalker nothing, but imagine if like Mighty Cyrus
put out a game which she was knocking in buildings the thing. Yeah you're
yere, Paris Hilton's Jeweled Jam. I saw. I saw a headline yesterday
the Kim Kardashian game makes seven hundred thousand dollars per day, per day,
hugely successful. Seven hundred thousand dollars per day. Yeah, fucking scoops.
Huh. Yeah, that's where all the celebrity the pop star games are showing
up now and that makes sense. Yeah, and I know what we know
what Don's I'm playing on weekend? Yeah yeah, Spice World on PlayStation one.
Just reminding me of all that absurdity. Now, dance Beat, I
wish that stuff was still around. Man, what was the worst one?
There was never any like boy band like n Syncer Backstreet Boys existed, but
there was, but there was a rhythm game. There were some board games
maybe like board games and stuff. But do you know about Mavis Beacon is
not a real person. Yeah she's not. No, No, that persons
not existing. Are you just now finding that out? Yeah, she's a
character. I was more of a typing of the dead guy anyway. Typing
the Dead's awesome. I love I bought the Dreamcast keyboard for that. It's
so good. Yeah. I even liked that new one kind of yeah,
same thing, it was, okay. Speaking of weird old nineties PlayStation one
games, Dan and I recorded a behemoth of our feature demo Derby. Yes
that many many Xbox were PlayStation one games. It was a PlayStation underground thing.
So it was a two disc which like that you haven't seen the feature.
Dan and I take old demo discs from like the magazine days and just
pop them in and go, what's this. Ye jam packs like toys,
r us and pizza head disks and stuff like that, and people have sent
us a ton of them. Oh yeah, we have a giant stack and
this one was a treasure. Like I remember most of those we used to
got just we're just trailers and stuff. A lot of them are. In
fact, there are a lot of videos. There was a lot of It
was like it would be like four videos, like eight to ten demos,
and then there was a whole disc on this one of like documentary features,
which was the most fascinating parts. Yeah, they're very nineties. Keep seeing
that frame grab of Shoohito sheet of floating around. Yeah, discovered what game
was that that he was? He was like, he's talking about ap Escape
Connected producer at that point, I think, I think you're talking about ap
Escape. Okay. I saw in the background, I couldn't tell what it
was. They're interviewing people and they're describing things that they think are cool as
diesel and that games Dieselow's pretty sweet. All the sas were spelled disease like
news and reviews and every single like menu screen just look like a vomit of
a trapper keeper head vomited on and there was a whole thing with like forty
products, like here's a crash Bandicoot turtleneck. Yeah, it was awesome late
now he just really were a tragic time for a culture. Yeah, I'm
loving that feature. Yeah, that was the best one. I'll check that
out. Yeah yeah, but I really like seeing that, you know,
just in case you didn't think shoe was legit. Yeah, the man totally
climbed through the ranks. Do you remember we were talking about stunts on UPF
that like a car game. So somebody tweeted me apparently done. Matric was
like, wow, guy, okay really yeah yeah, so he made his
way through the run. He found it. Yeah, he founded a I
cannot remember the name of it. He founded like a small studio, you
know what, I'm small. And that's how he got in the Developer when
he was like nineteen or something. He's like cliff Zins geeks. Yeah,
and then they got bought by EA, like pretty quickly. I think that's
how he got into EA and kind of went from there. So crazy,
everybody's gonna start somewhere. Where is he now, zinga? Oh yeah,
running zinga all this fine zinga products that you hear about flipping his hair over
his zinga. All right, he's up, Hi, you're ready to keep
talking a bit video games and other stuff like the ones that Dan Reichords has
been playing. Oh yeah, I've been playing an awful lot of Super Smash
Brothers for three DS. Right, but I can't talk about right we are
squarely getting into that period of the time, or of the period of the
year. Now, yep, so that has taken up most of my time.
You can talk about the content that was in the unfinished we posted.
That's true, we had that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean you
know that's on the site. We've got We've got that unfinished, and then
that same week we also played a bunch on on Professional Friday. Yeah.
Yeah, So there's there's a good bit of footage of the three guess version
of Ye Smash on the website. It is. But so you're playing the
full version now, Yes, I've got the review build. Yeah. Games,
games are just about to start hitting fast and furious. I'm I'm I'm
fairly deep into the shadow of mortor Oh really, I just kind of talk
about that and talk about that either close. It's one of those where,
you know, the the bargo falls at such a time that it's like if
we'd had a couple more days, it might have been able to you know.
Does that come out next week? Uh? Yeah, up, yes
it does. I can't talk about fates forever. You're right, I'm not
gonna allow you moving on Forts out on is soonish horizon too. I think
it's your I think it might be the same. It's next week, as
I think it. I think Forts and the Shadow of Mortar are the same
day. Uh and then yeah, words in it after that, that's the
last day of September. I believe the silly season. Yeah, and then
like god Drive Club and Alien Isolation and I said, Overdrive and Duty have
fun with that, you guys Call of Duty? Oh yeah, nice Later
and trying to think October was super heavy. Well, in fact, like
October the seventh had like five games or something, but they've all moved.
Uh yeah, that's November. Unity and Rogue coming out of the Road come
out the same day, delayed being if it happened in the last like five
days, then okay, hopefully based on my comments on the legitimacy of that
Irish character. Wait, Patrick Karmick, what I played the trailer for Assassin
Screed Rogue to my family when I was home in Ireland, okay, and
they laughed three seconds in okay? With his accent? Is there is there
a prominent Irish he does not send? He's also wasn't born in Ireland.
From what I talked to developers, he's estranged father was here. So I
don't even know talking about the voice, actor or the character the character.
Okay, So I don't even know how it's got an Irish accent when people
in Ireland are trying to do an accent of an American person. This happens
all the time, it does. Yeah, can you humor me? No?
No, come on, just pick a state. There are something we
already gave you, our our finest irish. I didn't I do like a
really bad like New Yike one before, like a cartoonish like I can do
mine. It's like whatever John Oliver would try to do like an American voice
like I did. It's southern. I did the House of CODs one,
Yeah, but I can't you did that was a pretty good one. House
of CODs. What was it was like the time I got done. But
but I mean even even his accent in the show was such put on,
you know, yeah, like I'm from that region and like, come on,
man, nobody talks like that. It's like Carnetti in the Wire right
with little Finger doing it. Yeah, oh yeah, I can't. Well,
that's why I'm going to Kansas with you for Thanksgiving so I can figure
out. You have people in Middle America speak finally, learn a lot about
Middle America and East and live and love and die. But if Don is
any stable, then I guess we're just gonna have taco about in forties.
And I mean we're gonna be drinking. We're gonna be drinking with my dad.
So I mean we are certainly going to be going to talk about like
three in the morning, like pretty much every night. That is, every
single time, three in the morning. Oh oh yeah, this is the
one right next to the rebel. Still there's still time to a board.
No it is not. No, No flights are booked. Cost flights almost
cost as much as my flights home for Christmas, Mike's record family Thanksgiving.
I can't wait. Okay, all right, we wish you the best.
Maybe we got some plans I will you know, I'll pray for you.
Got save your soul. Thank you? Uh Dan. If you played in
the games, you can talk about. I'm still working through Rogue Legacy,
Okay. I think I'm at the point now to where I'm about to beat
it. I've eaten three of the bosses and even going down through that like
hell area or whatever. Now I'm kind of tromping through everything. But like
I'm wearing all the like you know, gold farming stuff right now. So
I'm sure once I switched over to the ruins that were for combat and stuff,
I can probably just like Vampire and stuff like that. I don't have
Vampire on. I just have all the like Sage Cape and the Sage Sword
and all the gold stuff. So like my dude is literally gold and I'm
getting like twenty five twenty six gold for every coin, which lord ten Yeah
what's the Sage stuff too. It just it adds ten percent gold bonus from
the piece you have on. Okay, So like if I have a Splunker
or whatever and all this Sage stuff on that, I'm just making like crazy
money. Yeah, and it's I almost just don't want it to end.
I'm just having so much fun with it. It's a great mindless thing for
like, if I'm just watching something on my laptop or something, and the
cross stuff on Vita is fantastic. So I'm doing that still, going through
mettal gear, keeping up with word Drew's at yep, so doing that on
my Vita. Other than that, just drinking a bunch of beer. I
drank a bunch of beer with Daniel Dwire Andrew this week. Yeah. Yeah,
it's karaoke when I fun. You are always welcome to come drink with
that, all right, you come on out likes for humoring. No,
I mean that I'm get drunk. Uh, I am looking at it about
two and a half weeks of bachelorhood. Okay, right now, you can
find things to do if you like. You can. You can fill that
with this in the other other half is out of the country for a while.
You can fill that with radio Gaga. Did you do Radio Gaga?
We did Blinded by the Light, right, we did? That was fun.
Yeah. I picked a really high key and then had to stick with
it, even though my voice went off at the first first. It was
great, and so I don't know, and I guess in England whenever went
like karaoke in London. It's like the sort of Japanese style where you get
a booth and you like a bunch of people chip in and you you sing
with your friends. Two. I'd never done the open mic thing before,
just in front of a bunch of people. Where'd you guys go? What's
it called encore karaoke lounge? Wait till Kansas? When we go to the
Red Balloon. It's a bar used to be called Dirty Herveis. It is
where my mom and it's where my mom and my dad met. Like my
DNA is just in those shitty you know, pool table karaoke stage. Like
I literally wouldn't exist, Like anything that you've just said in the last of
his DNA is still on the pool, Like every sentence is worse than the
last. No, I literally wouldn't exist without Dirty Herveys and Shawnee Kansas.
I just can't stop hearing that right out of Switzer. It's my favorite bar
in the world. We also went to a bar before that. It was
showing movies. Oh Cozy car Yeah, on the wall on the TVs.
It was just showing movies and then like every once in a while, tod
be like like two seconds of hardcore pornography, and then we'll go back to
the movie. And so they air like old seventies movies and like old seventies
commercials and stuff, and so you'll be watched like that's the things you take
people that don't know what the gimmick of this place is. And so you're
just watching like all these old like silly commercials and things like that, and
then it's like dap, there's a money shot for two seconds and then up
back to This thing isn't like vintage seventies porn. It's like modern internet cozy
Cark with a k K o z y huh. It's right around the corner
from Soda Popenskis and Oncork Carrier. This is becoming one of my favorite corners
in San Francisco. Like I feel like I might have ended up there one
night when I was in a state where I wouldn't really remember being that this
sounds really familiar. It's called a record district. It never leaves hastily renamed
once I'd become mayor. Yeah, it was great, God, yeah,
oh god, I think I'd be a good that's dan Rycord. That like
that sound. That really is your ultimate destiny is I think? So I
can already picture the campaign things. I'm gonna run on the shut up everything's
fine ticket them. I don't that's get a lot of shut up everything's fine.
I'll know that you'll get a lot of traction with that. Just do
it on the Jose can sego as a small penis ticket that that that might
get you some mile. Yeah, okay, that's good too. Would you
would you want to be the mayor of a big city or would you go
to like small town Midwest? I My lust for power knows no bounds.
Okay, President, so you're going all the way to the White House?
I probably could. Yeah, Yeah, I think I could. I take
it. Just if I wanted to get something done, I usually get it
done. So all right, I just right now, I just kind of
want to play games and just drink beer. So I'm doing pretty good,
right vote. Yeah, you just seem to be accomplishing a lot on that
front. Yeah, so you know, but that was a great weekend.
That was fun. It was that plays had the perfect mix of people who
take this way too seriously I'm like, are they just like performing? Yeah,
that's like going somewhere and singing and being part and just drunk lads singing
like rap songs with lyrics they really should not be singing. Yeah, it
was like you could never tell. It was like a real mixed bag of
people getting up on the stage. That. Those are my favorite kind of
bars, just like just every kind of person like you'll you'll see the red
balloon it is. Yeah, I've seen people get slammed through tables. I've
seen knife fights. My dad is always excited when he goes out back to
smoke because every once in a while he'll see some frogs fucking back there.
He'll run into the barn. There's some frogs fucking back there. And then
people go out there and to smoke and watch frogs. Fuck. I guess
what you do in Kansas. I kind of tell you excited. I'm for
Thanksgiving. I think I need another break. Oh boy, wow, you'll
hear a lot of stories about that place when you're there, Dan anything,
there's a lot of unrepeatable ones. I might just watch. I just wear
google glass and twitch. Oh yeah, that'll go over great. Do you
think anybody out there knows what it is though, no, like they have
Google Fiber there and no one knows. Yeah, I hate it because I
want that so bad. And I talked to so many people back in Kansas
and I'm like, you should get this. Like, I know my internet
works fine, which somehow my dad's actually signing up for it now, which
I can't believe. So what is your dad gonna do with gigabit fiber?
Well, I can I can answer that question. Oh boy, I don't
think you need to stories. I can't say you're right. I'm just gonna
stop that, right, you absolutely cannot. Oh boy, all right,
Well if that was your weekend, yeah, yeah, you know, for
me, it's pretty much just been grinding in Destiny. I'm deciding, Like
even now, I'm sitting here thinking it's like, all right, I have
I'll have like three or four hours after I get home before I go to
bed. A multiplayer match is like ten to fifteen minutes. I get three
marks, I need like sixty to hit the cap for the week. How
much time is it gonna take? Has this taken out of your like Doda?
Dude, I've barely played Doda since Destiny came out. Wow? Yeah,
I finally did play a sum this weekend. I'm starting to get back
to it a little bit. But no, I haven't touched Diablo either since
Destined. I mean they kind of scratched the same itch. That's the whole
thing. You know. It's like they both you know, for better or
worse, Like one of them gives you loot kind of fires the dopamine response
way more often than the other one. But I mean, maybe this is
some weird Stockholm syndrome, But I kind of like that about Destiny, that
you don't get cool stuff constantly because every time there's a drop, it's like
a big deal, yah know, even if it turns out. I mean,
they've got the whole thing where you have to decode items. You know,
you get the encoded items, you have to take back to town,
get your ends right. Yeah, and half the time those turn into some
bullshit that you don't need. And take him to decord Cane yep. Yeah,
you sit a while and listen to him tell you that, hey,
this is for a class that you're not. Uh yeah, a lot of
people are upset about that. The purple drops that you decode, Like I
actually have the stats here. I don't know. If anybody's interested, they
can be yes. Okay, So some some group on Reddit actually did I
think this is just an anecdotal survey. You know, they haven't been data
mining or anything, but they kind of did their own their own research,
so like they let's see, Oh gosh, I copied and paste of this
and now I'm trying to parse this is some real information. Sorry, I'm
trying here. Uh okay, So, like for green ingrams, when you
take them to that guy to decode them, U seventy percent of the items
you'll get out of those green ones are green. Uh, this is based
on their stats. Seven percent we're blues out of the greens. And then
they got no purples or yellows, which I think is not even possible.
The blue ones gave twenty percent green items, seventy five percent blue items,
and four percent purple. But the purple ones only give you a third or
they they only give you a purple item the third of the time. Wow.
So, like that's what a lot of people are upset about, is
that the there's even this. There's even a legendary ingram account on Twitter that
just mocks people. Thought it was pretty good. Yeah, because you know,
like it's two out of basically two out of three items you get out
of the legendary ingrams are going to be green or blue. So it's like
you see one of those things dropping them a mission and you get super excited,
and then you went back to town and it's like, ah, yeah,
it's very frustrating. It's like the opposite effect of like random new drops
are, like if you get you know, an unknown in some games and
it could end up being something incredible. It's like the absolutely it's it does
feel a little bit abusive. I still remember when I killed that dinosaur and
strangled the thorny that raptor and it dropped apart. Dude. I also got
a purple and strangled forward. I think it was from a pirate though,
somebody on a beach, and it was even like the type I was playing
a paladine, and it was even one And it was even a one handed
mace, which is exactly the type of weapons I was using. Wow,
at the time, I think my next I was so freaking excited. Mine
was a one that was crossing the road. Yeah, I just hit it's
just to hit it. Yeah, And I dropped that. I love that.
I love that brief like second and a half or two seconds of like
dawning awareness where like the thing that's happened in front of you hasn't fully registered,
like the magnitude of what just happened to the odds that you just beat,
I haven't really sunk in yet, and then all of a sudden the
flash of like, oh my fucking god, like you know, and then
you start jumping out of your shair, and then you realize you're in your
room alone. Yes, yeah, and then you have your life back to
tanaras. Yeah. Yeah, So I'll probably play way more of that than
is healthy, but not before we talk about some news. Yeah. News,
Uh, the Tokyo Game Show happened. I did, uh do you
guys had a bunch of people over there. Yeah, I see, he
went over. I saw Mary Peter trans Yes, seeing a bunch of like
drunken drunken jr. Line photos from them. They seem to have fun.
Yeah, Peter got back today, Mary's sletted office. Jack. It seemed
like there was a lot more news at TGS well then previous year. I'm
going to say the opposite, really, I mean, maybe you know more
than I've seen. I don't know. I know they had the indies on
the regular show floor this year, which apparently was was decent. Should be.
I guess I only pulled like three stories and they're not even the biggest
stories really, So hit me if you know anything else based on game spots
coverage that I missed, please please feel free to chime to make some mombargoes.
Oh yes, but the biggest one by far to me is the Square
n X was out there talking about Final Fantasy fifteen. Tessa, you no
Mourra is no longer the director of Final Fantasy fifteen. I didn't know that.
You didn't know. You didn't see that, dude, I thought that
was a huge thing, Like he is he was getting drunk with DNA important.
I mean, have you guys kept up with the development of that game?
Like, does anybody know what the nobody? Just a bunch of blake
fucking stars. I thought you were video game professionals. I'm not a big
Final Fantasy fan, but that trainer made me think I want to play that.
I still need to watch that watch it. But I saw a lot
of people saying that it's basically like a character action game at this point,
like, yeah, and it's it's like a modern day and setting. Yeah,
it sounds like it bears next to no resemblance to any previous Final game.
He used to be another game. Okay, so this game. To
put it in perspective, this game was announced eight years ago. Eight years
ago. This is approaching Duke Nukem Forever levels of development. Hell, the
JRPG of Duke Knukem Forever. Basically it was announced so when the first announced
Final Fantasy thirteen, which in itself was announced before Final Fantasy twelve game.
Yeah, they announced it as the big kind of cross media like multi tiered
strategy of There was f thirteen, there was f It was Final Fantasy Age
To thirteen, which is gonna be a mobile game, and then Final Fantasy
Verses thirteen, which is gonna be this game. It was being directed by
Nomura, who became kind of like the rising star of Square Enix after Final
Fantasy seven came out. He created the Kingdom Hearts series kind of like,
you know, he's the director of those games as well, So it's at
a certain point. He was the director of Final Fantasy Versus thirteen and the
you know now announced Kingdom Hearts three. Uh so ff thirteen verses has drug
on for years and years and then when did they rebrand it? It was
last E three, right, Yeah, it was allowed the past three and
it was two years again, it was the it was the E three before
the concerts came out. Yeah. They made a big splash at the Sony
Conference again, Yeah, by rebranding Final Fantasy Versus thirteen as Final Fantasy fifteen,
which looked like, I feel like the numbers on the sequels getting completely
absurd. It's an online game that's mimo didn't come out yea twice yeah,
kick, Yes, they put it out like three years ago and it was
terrible and they shut it down and completely remade it. They need this one
to be good, and it came out and was good, and I think
I think the current the new fourteen is doing pretty well. Actually it's it's
gotten a really good response for people. Right. But anyway, yeah,
like so, you know, this game's dragged on and on and on,
and he's also supposed to be running Kingdom Hearts and they finally came out and
said, hey, he's not the director of this anymore because we need to
put this out. Oh god, before it sinks the company. The new
director is uh Hajimea Tabata, who is the current director of Final Fantasy Type
zero, which I think is what ag to thirteen termed into Wow, what
a tangled fucking web Final Fantasy thirteen has woven? Yeah, that, you
know they pay some lip service to, like, oh, this allows Memoria
to focus his full attention on King of Hearts three. Uh, there's a
demo of Final Fantasy fifteen coming out with Type zero, which is coming out
in March. Oh wow, I guess look forward to that. That's kind
of it, you know, But I mean it's it's kind of like the
end of an era, right, thirteen two come out? Yes? Three?
Yeah? What? Yeah? Yes? That was Lightning returns. Oh
boy, yeah yeah yeah, I haven't I don't know. I liked thirteen.
I used to kind of came up to an extent, like I used
to be cognizant of when Final Fantasies were coming out and stuff. But I
think you're right, it's just so convalid. Just my eyes just glaze over
you. Okay, fine, Final Fantasy things. I mean to me,
like the idea of a numbered fifteenth sequel in the series is completely absurd.
It's kind of great though, because no one else is doing this, Like
that's throwing convention to the to the wall. And the other cool thing about
it is like, I know that this one does look like if you watch
the trailer, it is very character action. He does look different. But
like for people who really like enjoy those games, they have been evolving quite
a lot. Like you know, they change up the settings a lot,
They change up the like era and like trying stuff like the mechanic wise,
they change up the bottle system, sometimes for the batter, some of the
times for the words. Sure, so there is something to like. It's
cool. I like that. I don't play those games very much, but
it's kind of cool to exist because they're they're just different at least. Yeah,
I guess I could kind of agree with you. Do you know I
want to play a cocter Action five. I mean, I'll give it a
shot, But like, I don't know what even is that series anymore?
What's your favorite one? Probably six of the modern ex between four and see?
Oh, like what is that like? Post start with seven? Nine?
Up? Nine? Yeah? And what kind of arbitrary cut off is
that? It's like, let's start with the last of three PlayStation three.
I mean all those seven, eight, and nine are basically the same game
tech wise. Yeah, I mean, let's start with seven. That was
the first one with HAVV on a disc, right, Yeah, I don't
even know ten. Probably ten tends great, But then I went back and
played the Hi remake of ten, and it's kind of hard to come back
to, right, So I don't know if that's just rose colored glasses,
I it's I mean, overall, it's easily the two on the supernos that
came out here. Uh, but you know, I think a lot of
people would argue with the Final Fantasy is a series that's kind of lost its
way at this point, so eager to see what that thing is if nothing
else, Never know, Two meters Boot was pretty good. I think I
think there's some footage of the demo from TGS out there, Oh, so
you can look around for or maybe that was just in that trailer. I'm
not sure, but you know, I guess we can all try it out
next March. Before March, PlayStation TV will be out in North America.
Anybody gasp? Sure? Yes, thrilled we capture Vita footage? Yes?
Great? I mean this is the Vita TV. This is the thing that
you know. Jeff has had a Japanese version of this for a while,
but because of the way that PSN and accounts are regional locked, it was
not super useful to us. I think is the problem. Okay, So
I think there's something like seven hundred games that are compatible with this thing.
Wow, although I don't think that's There aren't even seven hundred games on the
Vitas so I think a lot of those are like PS three games. I
forget what the breakdown is PSP. Yes, they talked about games are going
to be I think there's a big list out there of compatibility stuff. The
biggest problem with this thing. I mean, if anybody hasn't seen this,
it basically looks like an Apple TV. It's just a tiny little device.
It's since under the TV hockey puck kind of yeah, slightly different shape.
But but you can you can play Vida games on it on the TV.
But you can't use the Vita as a controller. What what. I think
you have to use a dual Shock three at the moment, maybe also a
dual Shock four. I can't remember if you can use both, but you
cannot use the Vita as a control mechanism for the games for Vita games,
yes, meaning that anything that relies heavily on the Vita is kind of unique
stuff. You know, the touch screen, the rear touch, like it
doesn't work on this thing. It seems like a lack of four sights kinda
you know. I mean, there's probably not a great solution for it,
but yeah, you're right, like it would be nice if I mean,
you know, I'm a little I'm thinking a little self servingly here because this
is this would be our avenue to start doing Vita quick looks finally, but
there will still be inevitably the games that we can't run on it. But
that thing's coming out here and on October fourteenth for one hundred bucks, so
the same price. Yeah, it's I think it was one hundred in Japan
as well, So I mean it's kind of a weird hybrid product. I
don't know how much demand there's going to be for it. But you know,
is there any word of Europe at all? Not that I saw,
No, just North America. So I assume it's gonna be like crossed by
to where like if I have rogue legacy on Oh, this thing is just
like this thing just takes your PSN account. Okay, so any of I
have on there, I still have on any game you own on a Vita,
you can play on this. Does your KIDNT need to be on?
Assuming it is compatible? What's does your VDA need to be on? I
don't think so. You do not need to own a Vida to you?
No, no, no, no, this is a This is a box
that access is your PlayStation all right. This makes a lot more sense than
because no, no no this yeah, this this shares all your like PSN
credentials and stuff. Yeah, so maybe the Vida just is not compatible.
Is a Bluetooth controller It's possible, or they should just call it the PlayStation
box or like ps store box because the Vita stuff is kind of well here,
it's the PlayStation TV. Okay, it does not have to Veta brand
on it. Can you do saves through the cloud? Like? Could I
do my legacy Vita save on there? As well? Maybe? I'm not
sure how that's why I would do. That would make sense if you've already
got it ONS four. Yeah, I mean, if you already own a
PS four and a Vita. I don't know if there's a ton of use
for this thing. It's ice hockey and run out of pucks. Yep.
I mean again, I mostly bring it up just to say, hey,
hopefully we will do some Vita quick looks finally, because we still have no
good way to see there should be there should be some games that will work
four. Yeah, but again, anything that relies heavily on the view the
new games work for it. I don't know, you know, they're I
think they're gonna be actively bringing games to it, right, but when a
game comes out like launch Day on Launch, yeah, who knows, it's
it's hard to say. I'll take whatever I can get at this point.
Ye, with that thing. Another release state Blood Born. Anybody who's excited
for Blood Born? I am. Don't tell me, it's just me.
You like dark Souls? Yeah, I'll watch people play that, Yeah,
watch internet streams. Sure. Yeah, I am super fucking excited about blood
Moore. Did you play it in packs it all? I played a D
three and it's not the same content, Patrick get his butt kicked. Yeah?
Oh yeah. The backs demo was way shinier. I mean it looked
a lot better, Yeah, ran a lot smoother and stuff. There's all
of the off screen in the world from TGS for people to drip over a
Yeah, I take a look at that stuff. I mean, that game
looks really good, you know, just the idea of like the guy who
directed the first Dark Souls and Demon Souls making a new game on on the
PS four. You know, they've never been the most technical accomplished studio,
but still that's a pretty powerful machine as consoles go. Yeah, seeing what
they do, you know, and they've got really strong art design and stuff,
so seeing what they do with that on a new console is really exciting.
And it's February sixth, it's the day after it's out in Japan,
so no lengthy wait. Yeah, really excited about that. That's all the
TGS news I've got, unless are intrepid game Spot correspondent. I hear you
can buy underwear in vending machine. Yeah, yeah, tell me more.
I've never heard such a tall tale. You've veen to Javan right many times?
Okay, I've never seen that couple of times? Got done? Have
you been to Japan? No? Gone in a couple of weeks though?
Have you not been the worst? No? What? Even then? Ireland?
Japan is like your next door that's like you're in next door. Yeah,
it's right there. It's the nearest island to you guys. Yep,
I can see it from the beach in the sunset. It's right across the
Pacific. Just a quick little boat right. Yeah, how long was?
Do you know what the flight would be from Ireland to go? It can't
be that bas Australia. I'd probably be eighteen airs maybe Jesus, I mean
that's like ten from year. Did you get the flower right over the No,
that would be ridiculous. You'd go over a lot of the A lot
of the airline routes from here to Japan go like up towards the North Pole
and that's how very close and then back down. That's how we gets from
West coast from Europe. They all go over the top as well. It's
like thirteen eleven eleven hours. No, I never been always wanted to.
Yeah, you guys, when you guys doing the ride, that's you know,
that's not for me to answer. Never bring that up again, okay,
Uh yeah, like TJS got weird, you know, it became somewhat
irrelevant at some point. Japanese development has had its own right problems in the
past. Yeah, I mean there's there's interesting stuff there, but for the
expense and time commitment of a trip to Japan, like there used to be
a lot of stuff. Yeah, and it's uh, you guys need to
go to games calm. That's I don't know about that. I don't know
about that. Why would you not want to go I've been in Germany.
I didn't. You went to Leipzig. It sucked, right, it was
miserable. Actually, I mean there are parts of Lipsick that were really nice
or like a part was that there were part there was that room, there
was that bar. The hotel was fairly miserable. Uh. The square where
that church is, there's a church that was kind of foundational in Eastern European
okay, like or I mean sorry, the East East German independence movement.
There's a really a nice church in Cologne. It's nice and it's the oldest.
It's probably true in the world. You should do it. The sick
video content you could create. Yeah, you're probably right. You know,
maybe every time you guys have gone abroad somewhere be at Liverpool with our Iceland
it's always sure. I mean that was one of the problems with Japan was
that you can't film anywhere really, like every store operator like like try to
take cameras and arcades and stuff and just not having it really. Yeah,
is pretty strict about that street pretty bad as well. I think you would
refine more or less on the sidewalk. It's the worst shot, I guess.
But just about any business we went into, it was kind of frowned
upon. To be Yes, a lot of cross arms. Uh yeah,
trade Chris are weird, you know, like going to them is a pretty
significant expense in more ways than one. So I gotta know what you're getting
out of it. But maybe, Yeah, I can imagine your europe European
tour. Europeans want out of the Liverpool video. It was quite popular,
It was brilliant. Yeah, oh imagine Dan in Germany. Yeah, I
love these are all great ideas walking. We would love to do all this.
Don't get me wrong, Okay, you would love more premious descriptions that
went what needs to happen for this to happen? Yeah. Now, if
I'm not the business guy, now I feel like I'm We were watching that
pay per view last night, the WW thing on the network, and they
did that nine ninety nine commercial, like fifty times the work. They're like
ninety nine, don't it cost nine ninety nine? Yeah, like we know,
we bade it. We're watching it on the network. Are they desperate?
No? I thought I read the numbers are not where they want to
It wasn't where they wanted them to be. But they're they're doing okay,
and it's not going away. I mean, you can't go back to the
old pay per view model now and expect to sixty dollars a month from people
every pay per view total, it'll do fine. And they are shoving it
down people's throats every two seconds the nine ninety nine price point to the point
where like fans are chanting nine nine, like bringing their own nine ninety nine
signs and everything turning into a meme. At this point, it's a weird
thing that it might be working, but it's especially weird to be advertising it.
Yeah, like you said to people who already signed up for it.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know it'll work. It's gonna be around for
a very long time. So ye, well I want to Formula one network.
Yeah? Is there where I want this to succeed? So that is
there? Is there a single organizing body that can make that happen. They
could, but they're very stodgy. Yeah, I can see that. The
F one Formula one seems don't take this the wrong way kind of seems like
an old man's sport to me. How dare you? I mean, there's
an old man running it? Basically is how this is breaking down. Vince
mcman is like seventy and he put together they lived longer over there. How
old is he actually, I don't know, he's pretty old these in his
late eighties. I'm saying, Vince, it's not a pretty chicken and network
was just it just seems like an organization that would be slow to change.
It's a it's a very stuck in its ways. I can imagine between like
the amount of current deals they have with different television networks around the world and
the fact that it's an organization that is exists globally that it's probably there's a
lot of logistic issues happening between making The rights are all super weird too,
and it's the entire sport based on rights like they don't I don't think they
are not much money at the track, Yeah, for that stuff. Spashroom
buttle don't come sheep. No, well, a little bitch for this year
he's gotta get paid. Wait, why he's not. Oh it's the only
name I know. Sorry, now who am I going to harp on go
for? Can we go buy ashi? Alright? Okay, no sorry,
Pastor Maldonado. Yeah, okay, that's that's a cool name. Yeah he's
a great driver. Okay, yeah, all right, one final story.
He couldn't get to F one if he wasn't. I suppose that's true.
Yeah, he need his government to like pay a load of money at F
one and something. What hogwash? Sounds scandals? All right? Uh so
we did that quick look for warlords of dran Or Ran dran Or according to
griss Waters, Okay, he would know, yep, if anybody would on
gosh, I guess I went up over the weekend, right did? Yeah?
Yeah, so that's fresh. I mean, Rory's been checking out the
beta for that thing they've got. They're doing a culling of user names.
No, like a giant scythe is just is descending on the on the I'm
trying to help me out with this analogy here, the Great Cerebra, the
Great wheat Field, so he's fine. So last okay, okay, the
the the great expansive field of how can I I'm flailing here the pasture of
the old, the old wild characters that have been put out the pasture.
Scie is going to come down and reap their user. I've got nothing away
with words, okay, So so sho be a writer. So if you
had, if you haven't logged into any character in World of Warcraft, any
given characters since November thirteenth, two thousand and eight, when the new patch
comes, there's so there's new patch coming, like directly it might be me
prior to the do you have a do you have character? Yeah? Really?
Huh? You played well a torn shaman. What's what's called? Well?
I think I think carefully before you put that name out in public rights,
Giant and Shaman, because because when the six point two patch rolls out,
Uh, any of those characters that haven't been used in that period of
time, the name is gonna be up for grabs again. Huh. I
had a character I called Andrew WK on one of our surives. Cool,
he was a human? Did they let it go? Yes? He was?
I feel like, wasn't there a point maybe it was early on when
I was first playing, Like, I feel like for a while they were
policing like goofy fiction breaking user names. But maybe they I'm sure. I'm
sure like everything else, they slacked off or they lightened up on Maybe your
name is Andrew WK though that's just maybe it was just Andrew an apostrophe in
there. A friend of mine worked as a games master desert really so like
solving in game is a web master? Yeah, okay, yeah, which
was a really weird job. He said, like ninety nine percent of his
day was when people were needing and greeting at the end of raids and just
raid bosses. Raid master's just going nap. I'm taking it. Wait wait,
how did how was he involved in that? Was there a dispute?
So he worked for a Blizzard? Oh I know that. I'm saying that,
like, oh people, did the players feel like in power or to
escalate that customer service? Yeah, it says if somebody took something that they
didn't deserve. All the tickets were basically all based on like he said,
like we've recorded an interview back home, and I'll be up inside I want
to hear that. But yeah, he's it's It was mostly like human disputes
that would happen in the real world, like abused and harassment. Obviously something
that needs to be dealt with, but like, yeah, he said that
was easier to people. People like getting pussy with each other over who gets
the drop, seems like something that they would be like, Nope, working
out among yourselves. That was really like mostly no kidding, that's hilariously a
couple of dozen those. I would love to read some of the messages that
came in. Holy shit. And then the rest of it was just racism.
Yeah, probably obviously because the Internet, the Internet anyways of the Internet.
Thank you. I you know, I feel totally suckered in by this.
I'm thinking about spending the fifteen dollars just to get back in there and
just sign into my stupid character so that the themes don't get taken Bye Bye
Destiny, even though I yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
I watched, you know, I sat for that quick look and came out
of that feeling like maybe I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Do you usually
go back? Oh? I haven't been back since Burning Crusade. Oh watched,
Yeah, I haven't played any of that stuff. Okay, then you've
made a conscious decision. Well, I just you know, I moved on
with my life. Dude. BC was like two thousand and seven, six
I think six seven. It came out in No. Four it did.
It came out on the November thirteenth, ten years old, and two months.
You know your history Half Life was on sixteenth Half Life two m Yeah,
yeah, I know. It's I just kind of I played too much
while and then I said all right, I'm done, and I was truly
done. Huh. But yeah, I don't know from what I saw that
quick. Look, I don't know if there's anything it's gonna give me back
in I can't speak for you guys. What about you done? Yeahs,
you know it was a good game. I have not felt the draw to
go back, really. I just I don't like the idea of investing that
much time into a game tour, like, like I'm talking hundreds of hours.
I love a good thirty fifty hour game. We've put a couple of
hundred into both Borderlands games. But there's just so much out there and I
kind of want to play everything, and I have a frame of reference for
everything. So the idea of sinking hundreds of hours into Wow, just seems
like it's not gonna happen. See's good that you're realistic about it up front.
Yeah, I just I know that in order to see all that stuff,
the investment would be huge, and it would come at the expense of
I wouldn't get to play all these other games, like I want to go
home tonight and play and never Running Nightmares and Phoenix Rage and you know,
like I want to play all these games. Has there ever been a game
that you've spent in a Nordon Meda time first one? Okay, well not
the first one, but yeah, during past one, probably like five hundred
hours or something like that. Wow. Yeah, it's a lot. But
I mean that was over the course of like years and years, and it
was just a staple of the dorms and they did every day. He didn't
play that to the exclusion of everything else, though, Oh no, I
played everything. Yeah, sky Rim and fall Out. Running sky Ram probably
good ninety hours. Fallout it's probably around eighty and ninety. Yeah. You
know, I do all the side stuff and go for all the achievements and
stuff, but once I'm done, I'm done. I don't really make another
character, I'll do the deal, so I can't believe it. For the
second week running, I'm sitting here thinking, man, I should be more
like Damn, because I like that you're reasonable and then like realistic about it
up front, you know, whereas like I'm the opposite of like I'd get
into Destiny and I'm like, I'm gonna do everything in this game. I'm
gonna get the platinum, I'm gonna I'm gonna grind the end game. I'm
gonna level all three classes up to max, and like a week and a
half later here I am going like I don't have time for that. No,
like Destiny, even I will, I'll beat the story, I'll get
to level twenty, I'll do a little bit more to see how the loot
system works and everything past that, and then I'll move on to Mortar or
something. Yeah, let's see, that's the smart way to go. I
cannot rational measured man bad, That's what I am. And I'll tell you
how many games I've sat down and looked at the achievements where trophies, going
like I could do that, I could get all those Yeah, but do
you do you feel regrets forever? Like doing that it recedes very quickly.
Yeah. Then for the first a couple of days, I'm like, man,
I wish I'd had time to do more of that stuff. Hey,
you do you man? And then yep, there are some like that last
Devil May Cry, the one that anintin theory did. Yeah. For some
reason, I think I was like sick for like two weeks, and I
was at home right when that came out, and I was like, I'm
going to get all a thousand achievements in this and I beat it like seven
times, like even on the modes where it's like Dante dies and one hit
and all the other guys are really hard, and like I got every single
thing, and then which one was DMC the Yeah, I actually like that
one a lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's a great game. All right.
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I think there's one that goes to Alex. Yeah, I think it's power
BombCast. That's something that all right, well, let's just get all the
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from England, Hi, guys, I just watched the TGS Final Fantasy fifteen
trailer. Like I said, I should have done that. I haven't played
a numbered Final Fantasy games since ten and while I think the trailer looks cool,
it's hard to discern what this new game actually is. It appears to
be some kind of watered down character action game. I know Final Fantasy has
had many spinoffs, such as the Tactics games or Crystal Chronicles, but if
the gameplay of the core series has changed so much from the traditional term based
style, what even defines a Final Fantasy game now? Is it even still
a jerp ps I'm from the northeast of England, so or your usual amazing
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mismershing my people with your Cockney nonsense. Also, jerp is not a typo.
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No Newcastle, Sunderland. Come on, England's not that big as it.
It's pretty big. Yeah, welcome reading Rainbow. I'm terrified to the
accents because it's on then, it's on the internet forever a practice. That's
whatever, man, you just gotta own it. I wonder, I wonder
if he wants Oh well, Mite, you could do a company one as
long as the stands lot com supposed to be in Oliver and it's fine.
That's not terrible. As real as the world's foremost authority on British accents,
I can tell you that that was pretty good, Thank you. Does Ireland
have regional Oh man, Ireland's insane? Is it? Like every county is
slightly different? I had I had a friend who could not understand my uncle's
accent. Really because he was from Westmeath and nobody knows what I was,
like, what does your uncle sound like? Oh? Like, I can't
even do it? Come on like, I talk like this and I'm from
what I'm from. Okay, if I was back home in Waterford, I'd
be talking a lot faster like this, okay, and you'd probably be a
lot harder than his stand. But you've done that at a bar before.
Ever. Yeah, I got a couple of drinks to me and there's another
ice fill there and I started talking like it's all faster. Yeah, I
can attest. It was hard to understand the rich for the lack and all
that. But then I used to live at Cark. Cark is down to
set West. They won't talks like this, and they at the end of
the sentence it goes up really high. I'm butchering these by the way.
And then in Dublin they're living like North Dublin. They kind of talk like
they're like they're trying to perpetual sneer. We're shamous from what's the starry shame
is he's from North Doblin, Okay, I think he's from Randler or somewhere.
Okay, Then if you're like in the country, like if you're like
Donny gall or somewhere up somewhere up north. Yeah, he might talk a
little bit softly. It wasn't a little will too like Daniel o'donnald you talk
like that. And I'm not going to get a tour of all these places
when I go to Ireland with him, I'll bring it anywhere you one,
Okay, I want to I just I want to meet your uncle now.
I want to hear yeah, or just get him on the phone, you
know, skype him in next week. Sure, that's he's from Westmead,
my friend. I'm not sure if they have internet or indoor plumbing. I'm
sorry, I can take the piss out him culture you're not. Well,
yeah, you just have to do it in the outhouse. Oh damnas damn
as is the name of the bar that I'm going to. And well there's
a lot more going on with the out house. All come full circle.
That's is that the one in the middle of the field. Yeah, it's
in a corn field. It's b I ob usually sit on your cooler or
say no more, not on this podcast. It's probably save it, okay,
yep, yep, save it. I'll save it. I you know,
I don't have an answer for his question. Like we said earlier,
I don't know what Final Fantasy is at this point either, and who knows?
That could all be stuff that they've just stripped the UI out of.
You never know. Sure like it looks cinematic for a reason, because it's
a cinematic each trailer yep, you know it looks like a final Look.
It's a bunch of you know, Final Fantasy asks looking people in it.
I guess all having some Final Fantasy asked stuff. A lot of spiky feathered
hair, yeah, backflips, how many belts? A lot of zippers and
buckles yeah, yeah, monsters, jackets, monsters yet nice cards team so
many as the person buckles, teens saving the world the video game, you
know, I mean the idea that Nomura is not going to be on Final
Fancy games from now on, Like that alone gives me some hope, Like
he's just chuck. He's done the character designs for the last like what eight
of them or something close to it, you know, welcome some new blood
on that if nothing else, all right, how about an email from DC,
the person of the District, David Cool tired. I didn't say it's
just signed DC Daniel like this. About a year ago, my sweet old
mom bought a set of yoga videos on a recommendation from friend. She's never
paid an ounce of attention to wrestling, so she was fairly confused when an
hour later she got a phone call from an exuberant Diamond Dallas Page personally thanking
her for buying the program. Not knowing who he was, my mom was
fairly confused to be getting a random call from this crazy sounding guy. But
the way she tells the story, he was super excited to explain his history
and how he ended up doing yoga after his injury. YEP, I guess
he just randomly calls people up to say thanks and get them engaged in the
program. Sounds like a class act. He is. He is so awesome,
he is. That's how he personally sold me on it. I was
at a bar before mcfoley's comedy show a couple of summer slams go and DDP
was just standing at the bar by himself. I was like, when I
got a beer and I was like hey, DDP, and he's like,
oh yeah. I was going just like lights up immediately and I'm sure he's
got marks coming up to him all the time, but he acted like he
was actually like really into the Conversation's cool, and I said something like,
yeah, I heard you're like teaching yoga or something. I was like,
oh yeah, bro, let me tell you about like oh it's great.
It's not this hippie dippy crap. It's not this period. And I was
like, Okay, that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. And so
yeah, he personally sold me on the DDP yoga program and I've been doing
it for like three years now. Like he is so excited. He should
be excited to tell his story. He is one of the few happy post
wrestling career stories that's ever come out of that industry. And not only is
he himself doing great, he's helping the hell out of Scott Hall and Jake
the Snake and all these other guys, like it is a very positive thing
and he's he's fantastic what he does. Yeah, that does not surprise me
at all that he personally calls it's a feel good story. Yeah, but
you're not seem in Simpsons or Ringo Star Like forty years later is like writing
back on March, so like all that, that's it's not what he's doing.
He's just making good on everyone who's ever bought one of his DVDs.
I think he's pretty quick on the draw with that stuff. He's not waiting
forty years. I mean, he's he's gone all in on this business,
and I think it's doing really well for him. Oh that's nice. Yeah,
all right. I could not care less about wrestling, but I like
hearing stories about wrestlers. I can't explain it. That's the thing I was
home for last time. I was in Kansas City and my aunt was asking
me about DDP yoga. I don't think she even knew that he was a
wrestler or something. She's like, oh, yeah, all my friends at
work are doing this DDP yoga thing. And I was like, oh,
really, Like it's like d I d I pe like it's some sort of
like spiritual Yeah, oh DDP Yeah, yeah, I've trained in DDP.
Yeah, it's spent five years in India. That's awesome. That's great to
hear. Yeah, that's yeah, that's fun. Also, if you ever
tweet anything about DDP yoga, DDP will probably either favorite it or retweet it,
but then add on all caps bang at the end of what you said
I did not right, Yeah. I think he says it just like that
every time he doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, you at DDP yoga and then
hashtag DDP yoga. That was a good hardy bang. Yeah, that was
a good one. Charles has an email here for Dan and Drew. Yep.
Dan and Drew should find this information interesting since they were curious to know
if bananas came from trees during a demo Derby Weird Fruit Facts with Dan and
Drew. The yellow banana fruit is a berry, but the quote unquote banana
tree it grows from is actually an herb. What everything is lies fits other
fruits that are berries, oranges, cum quats nope, watermelons, pumpkins nope,
avocados nope, eggplants, tomatoes, and more. No, all berries.
A strawberry is not actually a berry. Yes, it is an aggregate
fruit. What the brownish spec Yeah, yes, the strawberry is the click
bait of the fruit world. The brownish specs on the outside of the strawberry
are individual, tiny fruits that each have their own seed. The red part
of the strawberry is called a fleshy respect fleshy receptacle and isn't really a fruit?
Botanical classifications are weird? Is that that time? We like find it
that tomatoes are why you say it like that? Did you say it that's
slowly because you thought that's how we say it in America? No, it's
not azy. Okay, get that, Get that fleshy receptable away from me.
Aren't they fruit technically? Yeah? Well that was what we all know.
They're really That was the only weird fruit fact I ever knew until now.
None of that makes any sense. Banana tree is nerb. I mean,
have you ever seen what a real, like a natural banana looks like?
Like? It looks nothing like what you know as a banana. You
know. It's one of those things where they, you know, selected agriculture
over thousands of years. Really, is that sticker? That's not what they
actually weird? Yeah? No, no, they selected and bread for that.
It's a desirable traits by the show up and super Monkey Ball that way,
yep, very desirable. Good play super monkey Ball. Yeah you PF,
we should do the monkey target practice many games. Yeah, that one's
awesome. Let's do that next to you, PF. Come on Man.
You can't you can't tip your hand. Oh yeah, I mean maybe we'll
do it. Sometimes that will never happen. Yeah, okay, Eric from
Sweden, if you want a pac Man two Boys, you gotta go watch
that Demoya. There's a lot of that in there. It's real good.
Maybe I will, But first we need to advise Eric from Sweden on his
upcoming trip. All right, he says, in a couple of weeks,
I'll be visiting San Francisco for the first time in my life. It will
also be only the second time I'm in the States. Do you have any
suggestions for things I should see and do while I'm in there in order to
experience proper American and or California and the culture. Yeah, second, any
second? And tear of Ball. There is a can Can Taco and then
hood Slam is the first Friday of every month. Encore, Encore karaoke.
The place cross from Taco Bell sells forties for pretty cheap. There's a dog
there. Wish I hadn't. I'm just gonna cut this dog there. Feel
I feel bad for Eric, I will say. Somebody else wrote in asking
about good burritos in town. Head to the mission and go to Tacarea Cancun
or Lattakaria. Lat Takaia was actually named the best burrito in the country.
Yes, what's actually try that Laakorea and the mission literally the Takaia. Okay,
so you know it's good by the part station, uh sixteen mission,
think it. It's not right by there. I want to say, actually,
I think that might be up closer to the twenty fourth Street station.
They have the most mind blowing case adia really maybe one of the most mind
blowing things I have ever eaten. Latta Area. Yeah, yeah, they're
not been there. They're flower case Adio with god I can't remember. I
think I got it with Carnetas like they you know, they cook the case
of you heavily with lard. It's one of those like you know about that.
Oh yeah, you don't want to eat it all the time, but
holy shit, I really want one right now. Holy shit. It's huge
to get there from it's huge. You take the bar out from here,
and then when together on the box go to Ten Peaks, awesome, it
is like it, you know, that's pretty out of your way though,
Okay, Twin Peaks. I like Ten Peaks, Alcatraz tour was great too.
Yes, spoke ahead though, yes you have, Yeah, you have
to book the ferry to Alcatraz ahead of time. But the Alcatraz tour,
like the recorded like the headphone tour, is actually fantastic. It's because it's
it's like it's all narrated by former guards and prisoners, and like you're in
like, for instance, you're in the room where one of the escape attempts
happened, where they're talking about how they got their hands on some grenades and
dropped them down through a hole in the wall as you're like standing there looking
at the holes of the shrapnel damage to the walls from the grades, you
know, like it it's it's all time. Super well, it's a really
interesting thing. But also a night tour at Altraz is creepy. I really
want super creepy. They're stopping soon as well. They only do them during
the like one half of the year. Okay, yeah, you need to
the hell of view of the skyline in the city, but also it's just
being out there in the dark is kind of when is the guy coming here?
Uh? A couple of weeks. A couple of weeks, he says,
A couple of weeks is when fuck the fans five bro etic justice.
So boys time they've asked the fu Oh yeah no. But even when it's
not an official the fans event, there's a lot of the fans. Chance,
don't bring your kids. Yeah yeah, also cycled to Saucelito. That's
a nice one. Sure, it's all right. Across the Golden Gate,
it's a lot of stuff to do. You can go past the Giant Bomb.
Where are the old Giant Bomb offices over there on Bridgeway? Okay,
yeah, to cross the street from a wine bar, yes, great,
and a seafood restaurant, the seafood restaurant and Saucelito on Yeah. All right,
here's an email from Honk, right, do we have that one here?
Did you have that? All right? I'm gonna give you like five
seconds. You better make good. Okay, I'm gonna that is not a
honk car related I never get to use that thing again. Also not a
honk that's stop the boner sounds. That's why the icon, besided is is
an erect fallace. Yes, Honk asks not just said it was not about
the money, but puff Daddy already explained at length that it's all about the
Benjamin's baby Benjamin's in Sweden or in these yeah, in these troubled times.
Who can I trust? Weird al m, it's about pentiums people, right,
I guess you're right. Uh. And then John John has A has
the serious equivalent of that question, which is, what exactly does it mean
to say Microsoft bought mojaying for two point five billion dollars? I mean,
where specifically does that two point five billion end up? I mean it gets
split up based on the ownership of the company. You know, I don't
know specifically what that stuff is. I saw. I saw some kind of
speculative figures. It seems like Nacha is by far the the majority owner,
something like one point four or something. The figure I saw was that you
owned like seventy percent of the company, which means like quite literally, he
gets seventy percent of the of the two point five billion. And then you
know it's like the community manager. I forget that girl's name, what's your
name again? She's probably like sitting on at well. You know, that
assumes that she had equity at all, you know, at some point type
of company he's that made sure that happens probably, I mean I read that
they were up around forty employees at this point. Okay, so I don't
know, but you're you're right when you're talking about that much money, like
a fraction of a percent is like it like a life changing sum of money.
I am happy for him. What that lettery road where it was basically
it makes like for someone like creative minded, that way makes complete. He's
very humans washing his hands. Yeah, he's like, I need this,
Like I was never comfortable with this. I never really wanted this, which
you know, a lot of people would roll their eyes with that. I'd
say it kind of like i'd say if somebody who likes making stuff to be
like, I'm sure he's very happy with his success, but to be labored
creatively like that that you're stuck with this thing, right, must be quite
difficult. It'd be cool though, if he if he puts some of that
to use, you know, even if he's not gonna be out there making
new games directly. Like you know, when he was kind of flippantly talking
about funding seconds too, Yeah, like he kind of already could before,
but now he could do it without any risk fund like you know, you
know, programming schools for kids in this home country, or you know,
yeah, yeah, well we'll see all of Africa, yeah yeah, or
you know, maybe he'll just vanish off into the either who knows. It's
weird. Yeah, success has its has its bad sides too, guess.
So all right? Brian from Schaumburg, Illinois wonders. I've often wondered do
any of the crew have pets? Since I didn't really know, I came
up with some good guesses as to what pet each of you guys would have.
Jeff as a cat named Cat. Jeff didn't buy or adopt this cat.
It just showed up one day. I feel like that's cheating because that
totally happened. Did it really Jeff had a cat that they called cat.
I think it might have been a roommate's cat or something at the time.
I don't think it was directly his cat, but it lived in the same
place. Is dead now not venture. Guess Drew has a bearded dragon because
dragons are cool, so our beards. True. I could see you with
something like that. I could see you with a lizard. Yeah. No,
you seem like the type of person that would keep an exotic like a
tarantula or snake or some kind of lizard something weird. So yeah, I
don't know. Reptiles don't really do it for me. Yeah, I think
they're cool. I'm with you, Pat, I'm not really sure totally with
you. Apparently he thinks I have an elaborate saltwater fish tank with many rare
fish and expensive corals. Tracy Morgan basically is he Oh he has like sharks
and stuff. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh I would do that.
I love aquariums. Huh. How they sound like so much work though,
I actually did have a s like the little uh the tiny sharks that
you can actually buy from the pet store. Wow, they're dwarf sharks.
Yeah. I had one of those as as a kid. If I was
fabulous, Yeah, if I was fabulously wealthy, like notch wealthy, I
would put in a wall sized aquarium. Yeah, and pay somebody to come
in and maintain it. Yeah, just happens. You get it big enough
that you can dive in it. Wow. Yeah maybe, depending on what's
in there. M hmm. I think their aquariums are really nice back backdrops,
you know, for soothing. It's not snufflake. Dan, don't go
in there. Yeah, Dan shouldn't have pets. Yeah, I've learned that
numerous times. I keep wanting to people, you know, we we still
get the emails. Hey asked Dan about blank and I keep wanting to ask
you. But I'm worried that there's some kind of it's not a collective.
In fact, it's not overt cruelty. I don't I don't think you would
do that, but I could see there being no avocation of responsibility. No,
no, I always if I was an asshole, I would have pets,
because I don't I'm not responsible enough for that. Basically. There's one
time in college I was watching America's Funny Home Videos and I saw some clip
where a dog was running to go catch a thing and he hit a dude
in the nuts and it was really funny, and I was like, that's
hilarious. Dogs are great, and so I went on Craigslist and I was
like, yeah, I'm gonna find a dog. And so I got a
dog, and then I went to the bars that night. Yeah. I
fed him and everything, bottom toys and everything, and then I woke up
hung over the next morning. It was like nine o'clock and he was like
howling, like wanting to go out and I was like, oh, fuck,
this is gonna happen a lot, isn't it, Like like several times
a day. It's like I don't know about this, And so I gave
it to someone on like Facebook or something like the next day. And then
like three years later, when I had an actual place after college, I
was like, I got a backyard. Now it's now it'll be easy.
You know, it's got a fence and stuff. You can running around side.
I can just go out and play, fetch them mylocks or whatever.
And then that turned out to be too much responsibility too, so I gave
that away within a day two when my mom works with And then when I
was a game in the warmer in Minnesota, I thought like I'd always grown
up with dogs and they're pretty high maintenance, and so people were telling me
they're like, oh, cats are like so low maintenance, they're super great.
And I was like, okay, I'll try a cat. I've never
been a cat guy, I'll get a cat. So I got a cat,
a baby cat, and named it Macho, a kitten named Macho after
a mister Savage, and it was pretty cool, you know. We was
pretty low maintenance. But like I traveled twenty four hours later. No,
I made it two months and I was tired of like, you know,
I was traveling for work and stuff, and I was like, I gotta
find people to come like check on the cat a couple times, because like,
if I wanted to, I could just like leave it and have a
self feeding thing or whatever, but like I don't know, I actually care
and don't want the cat to be like neglected and stuff. So I want
a friend to go play with it and feed it and make sure it's got
everything. And it was just hard to set that up and everything, and
I felt like I was inconveniencing people. So after two months, even a
cat was too much responsibility. So I gave it to Tim Terry of Game
Informers. So Tim still has Macho it is he still is he still Macho?
He's still Macho. Tim didn't change the name. Uh So, Yeah,
because of all these experiences, people keep telling me not they have kids.
Yeah, they have laws in like most states to where if you have
a kid and then you just don't want it, like you can just drop
them off at a fire stations. That's a rule. It's called like a
safe law or something. Yeah, this one then the road for me,
that just breaking me out when I first saw him. That is that is
something that that is a possibility. Yet, So if I had a kid
and then like six months later, it's like this is hard work. I
just take it to the fire station. I'm good, No sweat, darkest
conversation that we've ever had with you, just really saying something. Steve Jobs
was an adopted child. Look what he did. It doesn't damn a child
to like what do you have against Probably wouldn't have achieved what he did if
he wasn't. Actually, yeah, that was a big driving thing. Sure
yeah stay there you go. So yeah, it could be uh you know,
I mean there are more formal channels you can go through if you would
like to put your child up to do that too, I would be leaving
him in a fire station. That's the thing. It's like I love dogs
and I love kids. It's just like it turns out there's like responsibility and
ship that comes with that, and I don't ever want to have responsibility.
Should try to fish if I may twelve months would have fish. Kids are
probably okay, uh yeah fish, you had to clean the tank and crap.
I don't want to. I just never want to have any responsibility to
do. I mean, a kid. A kid is higher maintenance than any
pen ever. I've heard that, but you know what I thought, you
have to say that. Well, I don't think that he is fully grasped.
But who he is? Okay, maybe a horse. I am smarter
than my dad, and he had me at twenty and I turned out fine.
So I'm thirty, I'm ten years smarter than he was when he had
me. So I do fine, Wait, but what age did you stop
learning? I got I started getting stupid or in college? Okay, probably
around like two thousand and two, like you know, age eighteen nineteen.
That's when I heard. What if you've actually regressed below aged twenty levels?
I might have. I haven't had any responsibility in so long. Have you
ever crapped yourself? No? No, no, not even in the drunkest
No, no, no. Maybe I was a baby. Probably certainly the
baby, yeah, pretty much, certainly. I mean you have to ask
my dad for confirmation. Babies have a really hard fun keeping it. I
had a low tolerance. I gotta build it up. I gotten on our
toothdache, dad, So I actually picked that bottle of Irish. I do
think if I had a kid, if by some stroke of misfortune, I
had a baby, Wow aboard, No, no, no conversation, that's
not that's not what I mean. I think I would get my ship in
order and I would do just fine. I actually think I would do pretty
good. I make it out of the conversation. Just goodness. I think
i'd be a good fun I'll put it. I'll put that out all right.
We don't ask that any more questions. Oh, you haven't been on
since he started here? Have you? And I would be Wow, you're
coming home with creative? Yeah, we see plenty. Should pretend that.
Oh boy, let's move on. What do you say? Sure? Any
works? Nathan from Olympia, Washington. He says, Hey, have any
of you ever been on a dating website? Oh? Boy? Opened up
Pandora's box? What man? I feel like I don't even need to read
the rest of the email. I for what used to go first? What
did? I actually haven't so I don't have nothing to contribute. What do
you do if you spot somebody you know in person, especially someone you have
always wondered about dating, would you try and contact them and go on a
few dates. Please answer in complete sentences and cite examples. Don't think is
where that email gets really weird. No, I've seen that even recently,
like on tender and stuff. You'll see it's like, oh, there's that
person I've worked with or something, and I really I typically have a policy
of just swiping left, which means saying no, yeah, because I don't
know, that's just weird, because I mean, if you know him in
person and you're interested, you just tell him in person Naska or whatever.
So as yeah, it's just weird. I don't know. I don't do
that as an addend them to that. If you do see somebody you know
and you're at a bar and you've had a few drinks, don't just turn
it off because you're probably slighted bright and then it might be something you wish
you ender them just for the last Well you still, I mean, I
haven't used that thing, but you don't. There's no obligation, right,
Oh no it is not, but there's a but there's a knowledge there.
Then Okay, there's like a you both saw it. Yeah, okay.
I feel like I feel like the dating world has moved on. Yeah,
I'm falling behind you. Think hmmm, I think that's uh, I don't
know. I guess it all depends on the relationship you currently have. Well,
if you have a relationship, oh with the person. Yeah. Oh,
like if you see somebody like how well acquainted your ex on there?
I've seen that before really. Yeah, but I've always been friends of my
exes. Like we usually give each other advice and stuff. When I'll like
break up with the girl, Oh so you on any good okay, Cupid
dates, whatever, and like we'll give each other advice and yeah, I
hear. If you say you're a marine, you're a marine. Have you
ever lied Internet? I can't. I am really bad at lying. I
can't do it. So it's all one hundred percent true. So do you
mentioned two world records? I don't think I do. Wait, how many
do you still have? I think I have one active one Mario one?
Yeah. Nice. Yeah, girls are real impressed by the fact that I've
played Mario for fifty straight hours. But that goes along way. Oh man,
doesn't do you ever worry about I mean, this this gonna sounds I
hope this isn't too self adgroondizing. But do you ever worry about somebody seeing
you that knows you from the internet. Absolutely not like I don't know.
I've had girls message me being like, oh hey it's Dan from John Bam.
I'm like, hey, what really, that's nice since you came here.
Yeah, yeah, well I had a couple times a game in Former
two. I don't care. I mean, the thing is just don't don't
do things like that. Don't put things on the internet that you don't want
see. I'm not that's That's not what I'm getting at. I'm saying,
like, with that weird you out at all? No, And they usually
make a joke of it if they're messaging me. He's like, oh,
I hope you don't think it's weird, like I's some crazy stock or something.
I don't. Don't. Don't bother me at all. Okay, fair
enough, Yeah, do you disagree? He seems to be pretty deep into
the game on this, and he's deeper than me. Okay, So how
do you feel like I missed out? Like none of this stuff, None
of this stuff was a thing when I was at night, very long time
since I was on the market. But man, this is ridiculous, whole
new world out there. It's so much easier nobody talks to each other face
to face. I know, but that's Here's the thing with online dating is
that, like, and I was talking to Danny about this last night,
is that let's say I see a cute girl at a bar or whatever.
And I've never been the guy that like goes up to a girl to bar
like pick up lines at by your SHOT's like it still that feels sleazy to
me? No, no, no, I never was. Yeah, It's
like you could talk to a girl at a bar for like three hours and
all you have to go off. I was like, okay, I find
them. Attraction's like, oh, we're talking, but like there could be
huge, crazy deal breaker things about just very core life and philosophical decisions and
that you're not gonna get to in that conversation at the bar. But the
way like, okay, cubitas set up, just from five minutes of just
looking at the way they answer questions or how a profile set up or your
match percentage or whatever, you can learn way more than you could after like
four dates of just someone he met out or whatever that doesn't have a profile,
and just weed all that stuff out. It's fantastic. Now I'm sitting
here trying to think what Dan Richard's deal breakers are. They're actually they're pretty
No, no, no, not consumption I told any of you, I
don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry I brought it up. I'm
sorry I included that email. No, man, mind going some really dark
places. There can't get worse. Oh boy, yeah all right, Colton
from ames Iowa, be kind cold, Hi bombers. My wife loves the
show Total Divas. Does that mean she's a fan of pro wrestling? No?
Is that are those iceling divas that he's talking about. It's it's like
the Bell of Twins, and I actually I like the show. It's just
it's the one that like tells you that John Seen is crazy. Yeah.
Yeah, so you see, like it's not just the devas because like a
lot of them are dating superstars are one of them is dating a news So
you know, Nikki is dating John Cena, Breeze dating Daniel Bryan, and
you get to see them from time to time and in the context of this
relationship, and obviously a big chunk of it is kind of reality TV up
or whatever. But then some of it is just like, wow, this
is crazy. It's just We're seeing Daniel Bryan go through John Cena's crazy mansion
for the first time, and it's illustrating how different their personalities are. But
no, I think it's a brilliant move because it brings in a ton of
people that wouldn't ever watch wrestling or know any of these characters. Like I've
heard my mom and my sister talk about the show and they don't watch wrestling
at all. And so if even a fraction of that audience goes and starts
watching raw because they want to see, oh, who are the Bellows fighting
or whatever, brilliant. Just bring in as many demographics as it can.
So, but no, just watching Total Divas is not I mean, you
watch wrestling. It's a reality show set around the world gay wrestling. Was
that it's a gay way, Yeah, yeah, could lead to Yeah,
they'll put it on the network then after season two and yeah, get them
back on. Get those numbers up. Somebody asked, who you gotta grow
out our audience? Yep, everyone does. Onward and upward. Uh do
you guys remember last week when we got the email from a guy who was
a programmer in a non video game field. Yeah, yeah, and he
wanted to get into programming games. Got a ton of emails, Oh,
recommendations, yes, cool, and they all say the same thing. Really,
It's crazy how in lockstep all these emails are to the point that I
just like, I pulled two or three. I don't know if I'll read
all of them. A couple of them are quite long, but like scarily
similar in a lot of their recommendations. Let me this one. This one
boils it down pretty well. But but the points may it are, like
I said, pretty universal. Uh. He asks me to read this,
And honestly a lot of these people are you know, they are employed as
programmers at game companies right now. Uh, this is for ay who asked
last week how to break in video game programming, and he just straight up
and enumerates this like a programmer would. Step one, if you've never programmed
a game before, program a game to supplement your portfolio and get a feel
for what's involved in game programming. Step two, apply to companies. Why
is somebody calling me on the phone right now trying to read this email?
Declined? Uh? Step two apply to companies. Step three, don't screw
up the interview. Step four prepared to take a pay cut. Huh,
which was Yeah, that was a pretty universal theme the pay cuts as well.
I'll, i'll. There's a more illustrative example of that in a second
regarding drew speculation about whether the tests are the same as non game industry programming
tests. There would be a mix of written tests and in person whiteboard questions.
They try to find out one what you know and two how you think
through problems you don't know. The answers to the questions can be specialized.
Here are some freebies. Explain what a dot product is, what's a cross
product. Here's a whiteboard, write me a linked list. Cloud asked what
if I want a double linked list? What if I want to delete elements
in the middle of the link list? How would I minimize the size of
the linked list so it fits in cash? Shall I go on? I'm
kind of curious. Yeah. Three, here's a whiteboard. Write a function
that takes two rectangles to find as two pairs of points and tells me if
they're intersecting right. The same function for two three D boxes. I like
hearing this stuff because it demonstrates just how far from you know what we experience
as game players. The game has to come from you know. Yeah,
have any guys in anty programming? Very little. I was a CS major
for like a year before I realized really, right, so you'd want to
see in Joba or yeah, see see C plus plus. Mostly this was
ages ago web stuff language called processing some people. Some people said make sure
you are proficient C plus plus because it's still pretty weid spread. Last question
he gave was how might you figure out if a polygons concave or convex about
a polyhedron? Oh? Boy, the hang on, there's a much longer
one. That's like it was really interesting, I thought, but it's super
long. I don't know if I really need to read the whole thing,
but I'm looking for there. Another thing that came up over and over was
certain times of math you really need and I can't find it. It was
a lot of like matrix stuff. Yeah, I can't remember all the terminology.
Oh that's yeah, yes, be well versed. If you can see,
if you can see the code, you got a leg up eat the
blue pill. I mean it was you know, it was the type of
math that helps with you know, tracking data in coordinate space three D stuff.
But this I found this, This is from Ryan this is actually a
good, good example of how this stuff goes. Last Momcast, you guys
briefly touched on this, and I had a little bit of input. While
I myself I'm not a programmer, a friend of mine is. When she
graduated college, she shopped her skills around to a lot of different places,
both within the game industry and outside of it. The three places most eager
to hire her were Boeing, a second big corporation, and Cryptic Studios,
the developers of her then favorite MMO, City of Heroes. From everything she
told me about the experience, working at Cryptic Studios was basically her dream job,
since she had been playing the game for several years and the position they
were offering was exactly the one she was looking for. But compared to Boeing
and the other interested corporation, the pay was an absolutely miniscule fraction of what
she would be making anywhere else for doing half the work. Ultimately, she
went with Boeing, and of course, City of Heroes development team went through
several waves of layoffs before having their game unexpectedly shut down in the middle of
developing a new expansion. We talked about this recently since the podcast brought up,
and she basically just wants to warn people away from working in the game
industry unless they're pursuing some sort of independent project with a small team. Programmers
and artists are just too disposable at every major developer instead of changing this at
all, a quote unquote difficult employees are easily replaced by one's more desperate for
work. As all her opinion. Obviously, he knows it's unfortunate, although
you know that squares with most of the reality that we hear about. It's
unfortunate, but it's how the industry works right now. If you want to
be a programmer on a game, your best option is to make your own
small team and do it as a side project while you have a more stable
job keeping you alive. Wow. Yeah, do you ever feel like we're
warning people away from this type of work? Yeah? Kind of. I
mean we got an email this week saying, like, how do I get
into games writing? It's like there's not a lot of work to go around.
Yeah, and there's less all the time, and it doesn't pay well.
Some things long and hard, you know, I mean, you know,
that's the type of thing people do because they love it, just like
making games. Yeah, I mean making games I think is a far more
abusive line of work in terms of lack of job security, seems like it,
and horrible hours, you know, like the you know, we might
we might work extra hours around the fourth quarter doing reviews and stuff, but
it's nothing compared to the crunch horror stories that you hear trying to ship a
lot of games. I mean, I wouldn't warrant it, warn't anyone against
it, as long as they're realistic about you know the fact that they're aren't
that many jobs out there, right, they have fallbacks, and they have
like a college degree or something like that. Oh, I think they're they're
are you talking about our line of work? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
you know it's worth of shot. But I mean, so much of getting
into this type of work is right place, the right time. Yeah,
Like on top of having the skill set, I think it's one hundred percent
persistence. I think that's yeah, that helps certainly, But I think I
think you're my my situation, it was definitely both. It was a certain
degree of like trying to do it, but like like you said, like
it was a shot right at a certain stage, you just need to cash
your chips and gets head out and right, and you know, there's there's
no prescriptive set of steps to guarantee easier to get into this type of work.
You know, there are a lot more jobs to go around in game
development. But yeah, like the threat of constantly having your team downsized after
every project ships and that kind of thing. And unless you know, unless
you're at a valve or something like that where there's relative stability, it seems
scary. But you were shaking your head about what that the oh, I
just oh, yeah, I just don't I don't like the idea given up.
I don't like the idea of like, you know, I know,
yeah, no, I just think that anyone can do anything as long as
they're persistent about it and really just bust their ass. And you know,
if you don't get the first six, seven, eight jobs you applied to
or whatever that. I don't like the idea of just you know, calling
the day and tucking your tail between your legs. I think it's just a
reason to work harder and get better, and I tell you, get where
you want to go. I had tried for five years and moved country.
By the time I decided I was done. Really yeah, So like I
was done by the time the game spot hit me up, I'd failed to
get the job twice previously, I was moving to the Middle East. I
was, I was five weeks away from doing it as when I got the
email. So like, I'm in a weird situation where for me, getting
out of that was definitely the best decision for me at that time, because
I'd spend so much time and energy trying to break in and then I had
no idea that you hadn't. I thought you just sailed right through. I
was because I moved to London so I could try and get work at games
by UK. Applied, I interviewed for one job and I lived in Irelands.
I failed to get us. I didn't get interviews for the next two
I applied for and then the last time they just emailed me somehow, some
way, yep, somebody, somebody listened to those old doncasts and heard those
phone calls or not bombcasts, I mean hotspots excuse me, so like its
podcasts from a different life in that situation, both scenarios were right, like
it was good to stop doing it because you could keep doing it, like
you probably know people like I certainly know people who have been trying and trying
and trying who are way more talented or it just it was the wrong time
and it hasn't red worked out for them, right, and you know at
least have a plan b Yeah, yeah, I mean, Dan, I
admire your spirit, yes, and I you know, I would agree with
you if we existed in a perfect meritocracy. But you know, there are
a lot of other mitigating factors. I don't can't impede somebody's progress or enhance
it. It's never gonna hurt someone to to not give up within within reason.
You're right as long as I again, like I was out of college
and working at fucking at Garment GPS doing texts report and I was out of
college, I already been reviewing games for five years or whatever, and I
kept doing it. I kept reviewing it in my spare time. Yeah,
because it's like, no, I don't want to do fucking tech support for
the rest of my life. So like, I spent all my free time
reviewing like every game that came out, and I did six hundred reviews for
free before I ever went to game informers. So I mean, I don't
know, I just think that if I would a cash in or whatever,
then like what I guess, I'm just you know, I graduated college and
I'm working tech sport for the rest of my life. So yeah, I
just I don't know. I feel that with enough persistence, there are there
are exceptions, but most people can can get whatever they want. Certainly it
certainly can't hurt your chances. Yeah, no, it will greatly help your
chances what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, but yeah, this, you
know, this line of work is weird and changing and shrinking, and you
know, the the YouTube stuff blew up for a while, but that stuff
seems largely kind of entrenched at this point now. Yeah, like it seems
like breaking into that field even if yeah, it would be pretty dodgy with
some of the very established but even companies are size are having trouble, like
game Spot having trouble getting seen in that area as well. There's gonna be
success stories though that that you know, there's going to be another like you
know, Pooty Pie or Angry Joe or whatever that gets really huge that that
is just starting like just making an account right now just because he's gonna bust
his ass and put out good contents. There's gonna be other vectors for that.
Yeah, that's the bigger thing. You know. It's like when people
ask us about getting into this specific type of thing, you know, kind
of more mainstream games, writing and press and stuff like, not a lot
of positions to go around. You know, it's really hard to it's feeling
a lot less mainstream man. Yeah, sure, right, yeah, it
is what it is. You know, it's uh editing, you know,
worth doing. That's if you love something that much. It's never read that
much effort to do it anything. Yeah, it's like you were gonna do
it anyway every exactly. Yeah, that's kind of how I got into this.
It's like I wasn't really doing anything else and it's kind of spent all
my time paying attention to it. So here we are. That's uh,
that's kind of good for emails. Emails alrighty god, nobody said it,
didn't you said? I guess I counts. Yeah? Those are a short
podcast? Is this? I feel like I feel I feel guilty all the
time. How long has we did it? It's only two hours? Well
we could just talk about something else if you want. Bride, we're right
here. We're all friends. Okay, I can talk about my hard lenses,
right. We were talking about contact lens. Your lenses. Oh yeah,
I've got my glasses on because I've only got one pair of left.
Yeah, you were start talking about context. I think you can you have
dailies, right, yeah, where you can get two? Yeah, okay,
I said, I've I've worn monthlies for several months. But yeah,
I cleaned him. That's he's not good. Like sleeping in him sucks.
Yeah, oh I could. There's no way I could when I got twelve
hours. The things feel like they're going to crystallize. They even still make
the breathable ones that you're supposed to be able to sleep in, I think
so. I think they do, but they never worked for me. Yeah,
I can't imagine that. That's the worst feeling. Yeah, Like,
why do you need to see your dreams better? I think it's just laziness,
right, It's like you put them in and then you don't have to
take him out. I tried them because I was going on long backpacking trip,
but I ended up just taking dailies. God fiddling with contacts out in
the woods worst, So I didn't want to have to clean him my hands
wouldn't be clean anyway. So I brought a bunch of that what do you
call it? And sanitizer, yeah, and the sanitizer stefka uh and then
just yea did that before I put him in. My eyes stung a little
bit. I had one pop ash onto my lid when I was playing on
goal and in football, so I had I had hard lenses when I first
started wearing them in sixth grade, and the idea was to keep my eye
from changing, to keep my prescription from getting any worse. So they like,
you know, sort of suck on your eye, keep it in that
shape. But they're really uncomfortable because, as you can imagine, from being
a hard piece of plastic in your eyeball. And one time I was on
a trampoline and I guess that landed on my face somehow, and it broke
in my eye and actually scratched my cornia. Oh yeah, I have a
fortunately eyes heal real quick. I have a kind of similar story. Yeah,
yeah, there we go. I was there was a something breaking and
me getting hurt. Okay, I was in college again, A lot of
these stories come from college. I've settled down a lot since then. So
I was I know I used to be. I have settled down significantly since
college. I was kind of a maniac. But all that stuff is on
your YouTube John now. Anyways, there's a lot of that bullshit. You
can just look at it now. So yeah, it was probably like twenty
two, twenty three, and as soon as I hit twenty one, just
like the bars and everything was just like all the time and Lawrence so like
Mastery, which is like the main line of bars and Lawrence Kansas. Went
to some bar and we were getting a taxi to go somewhere because we're all
drunk, and I was an idiot college student that used to be like drunk
and be like, dude, let's steal this eyehop carpet and New Love an
eyehop carpet in their apartments. Likeway, it was a pretty cool carpet.
I returned it when I moved to Minnesota. I thought, I look here,
here, here's carpet back. Sorry, I threw up on it a
few times. Yeah, But we were waiting for this taxi to show up,
and we were in some weird lobby areas some building, and there was
a frame like probably like a foot by a foot and a half. This
frame picture. I forget what it was. It was something silly or stupid,
and I was like, oh, I should steal this and put it
up in my apartment. And so it was a glass frame, and for
some reason, there was also a chair out on the sidewalk. And so
we're waiting for this taxi. I'm holding this frame. I don't want to
get caught, and there's a chair down there, and so I shoved the
painting down the back of my pants and it's super uncomfortable, and then we're
just waiting in the taxi's taken forever, and I was like, I'm gonna
sit down. So I sit down in the chair, forgetting that I have
a glass frame painting in my pants on my ass, and the glass just
shatters and I get a bunch of glass in my ass cheeks, and I
was like bleeding through my pants and stuff, and so I had to run
into some bathroom. I'm like a pull glass out of my butt. I
just went home all drunk and just sat in a bath Unless you're drunk,
so you're bleating faster. Yeah, it was just a bad situation for everyone.
Really. Wow, I was almost hoping you would say that you continued
on with your night, I know, but I think it was after calling.
We're just trying to get burritos or something. But yeah, yeah,
they are the only barrier to him going out again. Was that it was
last call. It's like, yeah, probably, I probably, I probably
would have. Yeah, It's like the story of Sean Bean getting stabbed outside
a bar and then like sewing himself up and just going back in and ordering
another drink. I was like, who is this? No Sean Bean,
Yeah, Sean Bean, the actor. Yeah. Really they was in a
bar in London, wasn't it somebody That's cool? He got into a knife
fight, or he wasn't in a knife fight. He had a knife pulled
on him and then he caught his tom open. Then he looked into the
back of the kitchen, wrapped it up and I don't know what I'm were
in his hand? Cool? Yeah, he was on a date. Would
like something? Yeah, okay, that he was on a date. Beautiful
lady. He was all right, it was yeah, and some guy tried
to harass her. He stepped in and then the guy pulled a knife.
Excuse me, I'm Aleck Trivillian. Yes, And then he went back inside
and ordered another point. That's cool. We should all be so bold.
Give any injury stories. Brad, I've been run over twice Jesus, Yeah,
no I can't. I've lived boring life. Run over by what a
car? What? Yeah, you've been like over by a car? Yeah,
hit by a car at speed? Well, I've been over the top
of them, but you haven't been run over. How fast means you go
under the way. That's another American thing. You know, you get you
get quote knocked down right in the UK. Yeah, let's you say knocked
down. Yeah, we get hit by a car. Okay, okay,
if you get run over it that means you physically got there's like a speed.
There's like a couple of dozen people in San Francisco who think I've been
rolled over by a car because I've been saying for a couple of months.
Yeah, how fast was were they going? Oh? Gosh, miles and
are I don't know how many cars? Second moments was the bottom? I
was about thirty miles and there maybe, But you went over the top of
a car. I broke the windshield, broke the side in mirror. Wow,
my because I hit the corner of it. So my my knee a
busted in his door as well, and then I went over to the top
and lon dented a car door with your body. Yeah, they have my
knee broke windshielded my elbow. And then when I landed on the ground,
the guy got out of the car and went to beat me up because he
thought I was going to run away and leave him with like the insurance what
yeah, but my friend pulled him off me and then what the constable shows
lots of adrenaline involved. I said sorry, which I shouldn't have said.
I so I ran across the road of dead looking but he also was driving
way too fast in town and went around the corner without without indicating rind things.
We just drove past. He had his wife and like infant shield in
the back of Well, it was all a bit messy. What was the
resolution? I caused something like three thousand worth of damage to his car and
I had bruised tendons. Really, yeah they did. They told me to
go. I was like, I feel like I'm fine. They were like,
yeah, just give it. Give it at twenty minutes and about twenty
minutes time, I was like weeping into a friend's like arms when they adrenaline
ran off, but yeah, I was all right. Well, yeah,
look across the road. That's intense. Hm. Be careful out there,
Yeah, don't be an idiot. I think a Morrow of Valdi story.
I think I need to go lie down though. Yeah. Yeah, thanks
and Destiny. All right, I'm gonna go get into a prone position and
rack up some crucible marks. Wonderful. Yep, thanks for joining us,
Danny. Thank you always a pleasure. Welcome back anytime. I'll but didn't
talk too much as you talked too much. Should have talked a little bit
more in your uncle's accent. But other than that you were fine. All
right, Thank you guys, Dan and Drew. That'll do it. See
you guys next week for another Giant bomb cast. M M