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Hello, and welcome to episode number
one hundred and forty one of the Chief

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Stakes and Controllers Podcast, present of
by Fox PHL The Gambler one oh two

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point five FM fourteen eighty AMI Heart
Radio. Wherever you get your podcast is

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where you're listening to this right now. Be it Spotify, Apple Music,

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Amazon Podcasts. If you're that guy, I appreciate you just as much as

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everybody else. My name is Jason
Fonell. I don't know if I said

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that already because I have very bad
short term memory. But here I am

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episode number one hundred and forty one, after a long, long night for

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the gaming industry, both in good
and bad ways. I am, of

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course, of course, talking about
the Game Awards twenty twenty three. They

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kicked off last night with all of
the announcements and award blink and you'll miss

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it, awards and all that stuff
that we love so much and hate so

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much about this this little event of
hours, and I'm gonna spend the next

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good amount of time talking about it
because there is a lot to unpack.

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I had planned on doing this right
after the show ended last night, right

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after the show went kicked off the
air, I signed off of twitch shifter

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streaming the whole thing for four hours
and dancing around to the song you're hearing

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right now and all that other stuff. But I thought maybe I would wait.

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I'm gonna wait until the next day. I'm gonna sleep on it,

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and I'm gonna see how I feel
in the morning. And honestly, I'm

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glad I did that. I'm glad
I took that approach. As the song

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wraps up here, I love this
song so much. It's just so good.

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Old Gods Vassard aka Poets of the
Fall, They're just very good.

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Anyway, I don't want to get
two sidetrack. When I signed off of

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my stream last night. You can
go watch it. You can go watch

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the whole Thing's archived on Twitch.
I'm not gonna get rid of it.

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I may try and download it for
posterity, just so in case they deleted

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it for me. But the whole
thing's there, and I was I was

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happy with what I with what we
saw. I was happy with the games

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that were announced. I was happy
with the things that went on, like

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the musical number I talked about.
But then when I went back and watched

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that outro again, I didn't talk
about the awards. Once I focused so

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much on what was announced, I
basically went into E three mode, right,

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I went into post E three press
conference mode, where I talked about

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the things we learned about that are
coming in the future rather than the games

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that were being honored on the night, And that, right there is a

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microcosm of the entire experience. Now, the next thing you say is,

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well, how is that different than
any other year at the Game Awards?

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And you're right, it always it
has always had that issue. What once

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was touted as a feature being able
to blend the announcements that the industry fans

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love with the celebration of the industry
as a whole has now gotten blurred to

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being more of a detriment. It
just needs to find more of a balance.

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But no, but where in other
years it was like easy to pass

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off, it was a little bit
easier for lack of better term, ignore

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this year. This year it was
one hundred thousand percent on display. And

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now that I have come into my
own after sleeping on it, we're going

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to get into that. But first, first things first, I do I

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want to start with the games that
were announced to get out of the way,

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I want to get it out of
my system. I know, I

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just said that I'm basically going to
take the same timeline in this podcast episode

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that I took in my brain last
night. So we'll talk about some of

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the things I'm most excited about.
Uh, we're gonna talk about the rest

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of the show after this. And
I don't think I'm gonna do segments in

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this one. I know, I
normally, you know, say stick around

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or what have you. I think
I'm just gonna run straight through, no

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commercial breaks today. I don't think
this one's getting put on the the Uh,

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what's the word I'm looking for the
radio, you know, that's what

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it's called. I don't think this
one's getting radio play this week. This

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is just me. I'm gonna go
off for forty five minutes. I'm not

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gonna put any ads on it,
so you'll adds at the beginning, adds

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at the end, nothing in between. We're just gonna run through this and

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I'm gonna talk about what I'm feeling
right now. This this afternoon, one

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pm on Friday, December eighth,
the day after the Game Awards kicked off.

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So let's go through some of the
things that I liked to see Brothers,

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a tale of two sons getting remade
or brought back to modern consoles.

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That's really cool. Game came out
twenty thirteen. Novel idea of being a

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sort of puzzle platform or sort of
game where you control two people at the

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same time, with one half of
the controller being one brother and one half

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of the controller being the other.
Made by Joseph Farris who also made it.

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It takes two and a couple other
games. Very very cool game.

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Happy to see that get some time
back in the spotlight. Pony Island two

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Panda Circus only means anything if you
played Inscription. If you haven't played Inscription,

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you should do so that's a fun
game as well. Loudest pop of

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the night for me or second loudest
pop of the night for me went to

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The Rise of the Golden Idol because
The Case of the Golden Idol is one

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of my favorite games ever. It
is a very well done puzzle game,

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really makes you think, and it's
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by everyone. It's on most consoles
right now, I believe, and at

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least don't switch and PC, so
if you have a switcher PC you can

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play it. There so go check
that out. That's really cool and worth

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your time. Harmonium the musical was
really cool. It's a it's a musical

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game but made with the death in
mind. So we may be hearing things,

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you know, hearing the words that
are being said, but the but

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like it's all all they're all being
signed and everything subtitled. Just a really

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novel idea there as well. Finji, who most recently made Tunic, is

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back with usual June. That was
a cool trailer. Motion twin The Dead

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Cell Studio announced their next game,
win Blown. That was pretty awesome as

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well. The biggest pop of the
night probably went to God of War Ragnarok's

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Valhalla update, the new free to
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Inside God of War Ragnarok, players
credos go through some go through this this

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some sort of like mysterious island with
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and over again in the rogue light
setting. That should be cool. Uh.

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Hell Blade two looked really great.
The new game from House House,

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who made untitled goose game, Big
Walk looked very very strange. Kids love

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that trailer, as I thought they
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No rest for the wicked, very
stark departure from Ari, but I

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am excited for that Dragon Ball Sparking
Zero, which is basically just the next

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ten Kaiichi game. I'm very excited
to see that franchise, that spin off

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of dragon Ball come back casting a
frank Stone, which is a horror game

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collaboration between the Dead by Daylight Studio
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Plus the Bandy Namco series. Man
of Madonn is one of them.

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I can never remember the actual name
of the full series. Visions of Mana,

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a brand new game in the Mana
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Final Fantasy seven rebirth trailer was fantastic. Marvel's Blade probably the biggest announcement

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of the night. That Arcane is
making a Blade game that's kind of cool

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for free d enough free but paid
DLC for Final Fantasy sixteen first pack out

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Last Night second pack coming in spring
twenty twenty four. Monster Hunter Wild's ending

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the show also a very cool award
sorry, very cool announcement as well.

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So yeah, there were some very
cool games to get excited about. Some

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with twenty twenty four release dates,
some with twenty twenty five release dates,

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which is a little disheartening. So
twenty twenty five already has Monster Hunter and

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Grand Theft Auto in it. That's
pretty impressive. And you know we're a

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year away. Lord knows what's going
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months for that stuff. But yeah, so the announcements are great. I

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don't want to take away from the
things that were announced, the things that

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were presented. The games look fun. I am excited to learn more about

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them. For the games that may
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I am excited to play them.
But this is an award show about

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the past year twenty twenty three,
right, so, meaning that they should

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be spending time, most of their
time devoted to honoring those shows, at

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least honoring those games, at least
in the way, at least in the

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way that like the people, people
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Oscars, right, they want it
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be this, you know, celebration
of the industry with awards mixed in,

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and unfortunately that has never been where
the Game Awards has landed. Right,

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This is more of a pop culture
oriented Award, as exemplified by Anthony Mackie

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and Timothy Shallomy for some reason and
stuff and people like that coming to present

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awards now. Anthony Mackie makes sense. He's in the Swiss to metal game

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Twist Metals based on video game,
got it? The cast of Fallout,

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same thing, makes sense that they're
there. Timothy Shallomy to make a whole

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lot of sense. I mean,
yeah, he used to stream video games.

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Great, but why is he here
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not have seemed more disinterested to be
there. But that's another neither here nor

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there. At least he introduced and
presented an award, right, he was

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the Game of the Year guy,
so he got to bring the orchestra on

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stage, he got to give the
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Stuff like that. That's neither here
nor there. My big issue is

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the lack of attention devoted to the
winners of these awards. This is a

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common critique. It is one that
we have talked about with this show for

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years, and we talked about it, I believe when it was the Spike

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Video Game Awards in the early twenty
tens, and then it went away for

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a while. And it came back
in twenty fourteen in its current form.

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And here we stand. So this
was the tenth Game Awards. Next year

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is the tenth anniversary of the Game
Awards, So it's now a decade in

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and we're still talking about it being
more of a marketing presentation oriented event than

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it is a celebration or award show. And that sucks, frankly, because

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this is easily the most visible,
the most viewed, the award show with

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the highest reach in the entire industry. There are others the BAFTAs, the

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Golden Joysticks, the Aias or the
Dice Awards, which I think are the

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same thing. I could be wrong. The Spawnees run by Khalif Adams,

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which is a great up and coming
award show there as well. These all

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exist and they all figure out a
way to honor the award winners along with

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if there are any announcements or whatever
going on and creating that balance here that

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seesaw went way too much in the
direction of trailers to the point where winners

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of Awards this is the worst part. And if you saw it, you

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know what I'm talking about. I'm
not saying anything new right now, Winners

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of these awards were given thirty seconds
for speeches if they were one of the

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ones selected for speeches, and one
moment they did a bunch of rapid fire

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awards at once, including some high
like major categories. Best Indie for Sea

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of Stars, Best RPG for Balder's
Gain. I guess just blown through with

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no care. What is the point
right? Kotaku wrote a great article this

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morning. Zaxwison wrote a great headline, It's time for the Game Awards to

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just become the Winter e three it
wants to be. You want to give

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awards, you want to honor people, fine, but just call yourself what

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it is. Stop with this.
You know, the best form of entertainment,

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as somebody pointed out in the game
spot slack today, stop with that.

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There is no best form entertainment.
The best form entertainment is whatever entertains

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you. There is no it's somebody. There's a tweet that I wrote that

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I read. I wrote tweet that
I read that said, events like last

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night make it seem like we're a
The gaming industry is a very successful little

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brother who's trying to measure up to
the older brother who was more popular in

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high school. And that is so
right, it's so right, it's not

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even funny. And in some moments
I kind of I kind of think it's

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cool to have like Anthony Mackie there
and and al Pacino last year, and

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you know, people like that,
But like, are the Muppets necessary?

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And I love the Muppets. Muppet
this is my time of year. This

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is the Muppets time a year for
me. Muppett Family Christmas is one of

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my favorite Christmas shows of all time? Was Gonzo needed? Did I need

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to hear Gonzo thirst about chickens for
six minutes or whatever it ended up being,

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Bring out some Alan Wake corkboard.
Never reference to Alan Wake. I

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mean, make the Alan Wake joke. You're making an Alan Wake corkboard.

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Make the joke. No, We're
just talking about how much he really wants

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to do unspeakable things to that chicken
or chicken in general. It's very weird.

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It's very I feel, I don't
know, it's hard to it's hard

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to really get into. The more
I think about it, the more problems

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I have I want to I'm just
gonna paint a couple of situations here that

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people have talked about that are really
really bad and of course, you can

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make your own judgments. If you
don't agree with me, that's fine.

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But if you, you know,
just listen to what I'm saying and see

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if it at least makes any sense
to you. So first, somebody on

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Twitter, Haley Elise at Haley Elise
on Twitter, because I refuse to call

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it what it's called. She went
through where they went through. I don't

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want to assume they went through and
broke down by timing five different categories for

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these award shows. Now, this
only counts for the Core Game Award show.

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It does not include the however many
awards and I think a dozen reveals

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that happened in the opening act as
they call it, from seven thirty to

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eight o'clock Eastern time. This is
just eight to eleven trailers and advertisements were

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given one hour and twenty eight minutes. That is half of the runtime.

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Eighty eight out of one hundred and
eighty minutes we're spent on trailers and advertisements,

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which is fine, but there are
other areas that are sorely lacking,

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and we'll get to that. Musical
numbers at thirteen and a half minutes,

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that's fine. They had two,
right, maybe three? They had Old

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Gods of Asgard. They had the
final Fantasy seven rebirth one. I think

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it might be it. That's fine, that's perfect for a three hour show.

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One or two songs to mix things
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thing. If you want to keep
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thing for all their best music.
Whatever I'm in, that's fine with me.

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Presenters of the awards, the people
presenting the awards got almost triple the

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amount of time as people to give
speeches who won them. Twenty six and

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a half minutes for award presenters,
ten minutes for the speeches of the winners.

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That is bogus. That to me
is completely backwards. Now, some

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of that may have been extended by
Anthony Mackie, who was very upset with

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the crowd for yelling at him,
were very drunk or very both um yelling

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at the crowd to stop talking,
and how much he loved them. He

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kind of padded his time there.
Whatever. Christopher Judge I think patted it

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on purpose, making fun of call
of duty because of his speech last year,

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which kept going on and on and
on, and they got a get

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inside joke whatever, and that started
the show that was a great icebreaker to

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start the show. Bring out Christopher
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him off. But also, as
I'm just now realizing, it, kind

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of set the stage for the entire
night because he starts talking and they immediately

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turn on the playoff music, which
for him is a joke. But then

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when they did it to everybody else, when they weren't supposed to the joke,

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it wasn't a joke anymore. There
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either Accessibility Games for Impact. I
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the award. The two people who
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a woman, and they go up
and the man gives his speech and he

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says, you know, whatever he
wants to say. He says, thank

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you. The woman walks up to
the mic to get her turn, and

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damn they play the playoff music,
full bore, full blast boom. They're

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playing the off as if they assumed
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as that happened, I go back
to my live stream. I immediately was

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like, oh no, that's not
good. You let them both speak.

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That didn't happen again for the rest
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them. I have to find the
award specific award that that happened to,

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and I will do that while we're
talking here. But that was just not

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not a good look at all,
and I am genuinely curious how that was

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able to happen. But then you
have the voice actor for Astarion, who

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won the best Performance category for Balder's
Gate, giving a very moving speech to

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Neil Nubahn is his name, giving
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helped people who were suffering from abuse, and it's just very wonderful, wonderful

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thing, and their playing him off. Give him time, let him soak

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in that moment. He had what
thirty seconds forty seconds before that screen that

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has become the lasting image of the
game awards, please wrap it up,

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was being shown to him, and
that was the first award to bookend the

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show, the last award Game of
the year, also for Balder's Gate.

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The head of the studio, in
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Great Touch comes up and starts giving
his speech and talking about members of the

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team who have died, won as
recently as a month ago, and they're

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playing him off again. It's the
end of the show. There should be

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no time limit for the Game of
the Year speech. What are you doing?

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Why are you doing this? I
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sympathize or understand if, in the
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but these smaller categories get less time
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perfect sense to me, but not
Game of the Year, right, And

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even then, the smaller categories deserve
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off with a patronizing Uh, please
wrap it up? Who picked that?

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Please wrap it up? You could
write, you could have written anything.

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You could have written overtime, you
could have written, you know, something

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else, like, uh, just
just have the zeros there flashing. That

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would have been enough. Please wrap
it up. What the hell? Man?

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Somebody's put on Twitter and this is
right. I don't remember exactly who

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wrote it. I want to say
Javier Cordero was the name I got find

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that tweet. I want to make
sure I get that appropriation or not appropriation,

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that attribution correct as well. That
said, if I'm accepting an award

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for Game of the Year on a
project I spent blood, sweent and tears

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on and I'm talking about people on
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games, and you're playing me off, I'm gonna be pissed. And he's

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right, there's no excuse for that. And then and then, which is

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where there are weird practices got in
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head of Balder's Gate three, when
he was accepting his award for Game of

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the Year, was supposed to announce
that the Xbox version shadow dropped. The

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Xbox version of Baltersgate three was available
on Xbox right then and there for the

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first time. They didn't give him
the time to do that. Now he

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says he forgot. He says he
would. You know, he wasn't thinking

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he was in the moment. But
if he's not played off after thirty seconds

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of accepting an award or giving a
speech for Game of the Year, maybe

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he remembers that particular tidbit, huh. I mean, that just makes sense.

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He gave more time on the stage
to that dope from games Com who

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rushed the stage looking for GTA six, who I hope is still riding in

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the gooleg because that, I mean, they had more security last night.

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But that's that whole I'm not getting
onto that your haste and your lack of

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focus on the winners kept you from
a pretty big announcement, which is your

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bread and butter anyway, right,
you spent half the show on trailers and

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stuff like that, and as I
have been saying, the social media reaction

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has been strong, to say the
least. Jeff Grubb over there Giant Bomb

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says, I don't think we I
don't want to say we shouldn't criticize the

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game awards. We should. I
just think maybe it's more useful to question

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the whole importance in the first place. Some guy just decided to hand out

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trophies, we don't have to take
it as seriously as default. That is

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a very good point that he made
there. I think that there is something

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you could something to be said about
how this guy just, you know,

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decided he wanted to do this.
Now, granted, he did invest a

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million dollars of his own money,
and he clearly does care about the industry.

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He just has to get his priority
straight here. It is Javierra Cordero.

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That's the name. If I had
one Game of the Year and was

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dedicating the award to a member of
my team who had died during development,

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and saw the words please wrap it
up. I'd be expletive pissed. I

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would too, Pavierra, you are
absolutely right about that. Swen Vinki is

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his name from Larry and he was
the one accepting the award. One great

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joke didn't know gave de Game dev
Award acceptance. Species were also subjected to

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crunch. That was a nice little
little dig there. Simoulu, who came

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out to present himself a present an
award and reveal himself in a game called

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Stormgate, got to talk about his
broken foot longer than developers won an award

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tonight. That was pretty pretty good
commentary there. Roger Clark, who was

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the voice I believe is the voice
of Arthur Morgan, I think I have

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the guy right here. He tweeted
that the gaming industry has an odd complex

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at the moment. They're disregarding their
own plate, their own disregarding their own

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in a place in place of a
film industry that doesn't really care about them.

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They're like the more successful little brother
here it is still seeking validation from

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the big brother who was cool in
high school. Yes, that's one hundred

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percent true. It's it's a shame, right, It is a shame.

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That the awards that we most associate
with this industry have become fifty percent marketing

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and fifty percent and not even fifty
percent celebration. Let's go back, Let's

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go back to those times again,
shall we? Let me find that tweet

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again while I'm right here. One
hour and twenty eight minutes for trailers,

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thirteen and a half minutes for musical
numbers. That's the only one I'm okay

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with award presenters twenty six and a
half minutes. Winter speech is ten minutes.

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I didn't get to the other thing
that really makes me upset, and

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that is forty two and a half
minutes devoted to other I believe Kajima is

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in that because he had eight minutes
with Jordan Peele and all the other stuff.

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I think the warframe stuff is in
there because they were talking about the

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warframe drop and stuff like that.
That right, there is more time that

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should be devoted to winter speeches.
There is no reason that the speeches of

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the people who are winning the awards
should have the least amount of time.

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What are you doing, Jeff?
Now? I did have a thought that

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maybe he was overreacting to Bill Clinton
kid last year, right he didn't want

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that egg on his face again after
some kids snuck up on the stage and

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talked about Bill Clinton out of nowhere. Yeah, fine, that's fine.

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But you had the guardrails for that, You had the extra security guys at

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the end of the rows for that. You took care of that. You

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don't take care of that. By
limiting the time of the people who are

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supposed to be giving the speeches,
you are punishing the wrong people. And

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to be honest, I don't even
know where the solution is, right,

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I don't know is it. I
mean, well, clearly the answer would

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be less attention given to the trailers
and the ads. But that's why the

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people tune in, right, So
what do you need? What needs to

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happen here is you can have your
trailers and your reveals and all that other

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good stuff. You can still have
that stuff, but you need to spend

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just as much time honoring the speeches
too. I don't want to hear that

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people get bored if speeches are too
long, and and people on Twitter or

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whatever start saying move it along,
move it along. That's because people on

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Twitter have no attention span, my
boy. They just as long as something

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is the least bit boring. They're
complaining about it. It's what they do.

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If anyone's live tweeting this, they've
already told me to move it along

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fifteen times in twenty seven minutes.
It's just how it works on social media.

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Man, you need to be the
one to hold up You and your

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team need to be the ones to
hold up the Hey, we need to

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give these people equal time. And
it's gotten me wondering what a Game Awards

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show would look like without Jeff Keey, somebody else hosting, just his team

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organizing everything. I don't know how
hands on he is now. He talks

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about going to a studio like house
House and playing Big Walk or whatever that

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game was called from the untitled Goose
Game. People. He talks about,

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you know, being in the room
for all these demos, But is he

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booking them or is team booking them? Is he producing the rundown or is

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his team producing the rundown? Is
this a Vince mcmn situation where a bunch

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of people do work and he has
the final say. And I hope that's

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the extent of the vincetrick Man situation. If that's what it is, I

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don't know. Maybe we get somebody
on the not on the inside. Maybe

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we get some of those answers,
we get some of those things told to

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us, so we know maybe maybe
I don't know. I don't know.

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All I know is something's wrong.
Something's wrong, And it was very apparent

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last night based on the the reactions
of people on Twitter about the show and

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what they were seeing. There is
a problem here. There is a rot

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at the core of the Game Awards
that has been festering for almost a decade

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aid and it's time to figure out
how to get rid of it and create

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a balance. Does it mean adding
an extra hour to your show? Fine,

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start at seven six thirty, seven
o'clock, six thirty opening act,

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seven o'clock start time. If you
add an hour and give all of that

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time to the winner speeches, nobody
says a word, everybody. You have

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thirty awards at this show. You
gave ten minutes to the winners. If

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you make that seventy, that's what. Let's do the quick math here,

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real quick. More than a little
more than two minutes per speech, that's

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fine, And then you can play
with it as is. You want to

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give Game of the Year more time, then I don't know, the e

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Sports Awards whatever, that's fine too, or maybe the Esports Awards are in

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the pre show and then you do
them and you give them their their their

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their laurels, and then we move
on. Because it's mostly about the actual

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industry, the the core gaming industry, and not so much about esports.

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There are ways to do this,
I don't I think anyone would complain if

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that show starts at seven pm Eastern
Time instead of eight pm Eastern time.

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But every every single speech, every
single winner of an award gets more time

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to give a speech. I would
have loved to see Sabotage on that stage

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last night for Best Indie Game.
I would have loved it. Was it

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there, No, it wasn't.
It got mentioned, it got clapped for,

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and then it was moved on to
the next one. Sabotage deserved that

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time on stage. They deserved it. They didn't get it, and that,

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to me is bogus. And I
hate to do this because I look

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forward to this. I look forward
to this from Thanksgiving. I mean,

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I'm always kind of on the periphery
of it. It's one of my favorite

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events of the year and has been
for years. I've been talking about going

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to this damn thing for five years. You think I would do it eventually.

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But I love this show, I
love streaming it, I love talking

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about it friends. With the absence
of E three, that void has been

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filled to a point by this and
now I'm realizing that that's a problem.

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But it's not an unfixable one.
There just needs to be more time given

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to the people winning the awards as
opposed to those who want to announce the

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games that may be winning them in
the future. It amazes me how much

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Alan Wake two is a perfect example
of what's going on in this industry,

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in this particular industry event. Remember
when alan Wake two was announced in twenty

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twenty one. Remember how much time
they got on stage to talk about the

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return of alan Wake on that stage
two years ago. Now, when it

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came time to win the awards,
their creators got what third of that time.

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Allen Wait might not be the best
example because they also had one of

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the musical numbers. I understand that, but it doesn't change the fact that

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you spent more time on the game's
announcement two years ago than you did on

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the awards that it won. At
the show that has awards in the title,

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and that to me is a problem. We play these games because they're

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made by excellent creators, and the
most visible award show in the world needs

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to give those creators that spotlight.
It needs to give the industry that spotlight,

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not just the marketing committees, not
just the business side, the entire

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industry, which brings me to my
last point. There have been a lot

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of critiques about this show, a
lot of them deserved, none of them

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more deserved than anybody who had anything
to say about the lack of mention of

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layoffs there. I mean, there
was that wonderful letter that went out by

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the Future Class regarding acknowledgment of what's
going on in Israel in Palestine. Should

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that have happened to Yes, they
mentioned Ukraine in twenty twenty one, they

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should have mentioned Palestine this year as
well. I won one hundred percent agree.

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There were people who were going to
give speeches on Palestine. They didn't

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win that the team one of the
people who made Goodbye Volcano, Hyatt co

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Op, shared his speech if they
had won, and it mentions Palestine.

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So now is it p will the
tinfoil hats put on you go on to

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say that that game didn't because they
might mention it. No, you can't

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say that because you didn't see a
speech before here. You have to clear

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anything. I don't know if they
have to clear it, but if they

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had to clear it, whatever,
But that's a whole other That's what I

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want to get into. It should
have happened, But that is a very

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it's a hard topic to talk about
it. It's a hard topic to give

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the gravitas that it needs. So
I would have loved to have hear about

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it, heard about it, and
the fact that it wasn't there sucks,

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But just as importantly, if not
because of the industry we're talking about more

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importantly, even though it's it's not. I don't want to say one's more

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important than the other. I'm just
trying to make a point here that one

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that definitely should have been said was
the layoffs. Both of these things should

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have been said. Let me let
me make that very clear. But if

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we had to choose one, or
if I had to, if you came

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to me and said, one of
these two things is definitely going to be

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talked about it this award show,
what's it going to be? I would

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have chosen the layoffs. It was
a huge part of this year, one

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of the most successful critically successful years
in video games ever, overshadowed by nearly

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ten thousand layoffs in studios across the
world. That to me is something somebody

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would have addressed and should have been
addressed. At the beginning of the show,

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Nope, not a word. And
my favorite part, My favorite part

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of this is that multiple times during
the show they panned a camera to Leanna

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Ruppert. Nothing's wrong with Leanna Ruppert. The Honor Ruppert is great, The

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Honor Ruppert was laid off. The
Honor Ruppert was laid off by Bungee.

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She was affected, and they kept
finding her in the audience, and anybody

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who saw her would be like,
oh, that's Leanna. Oh yeah,

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she got laid off. Oh they're
gonna mention that. They never did.

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I don't know if the camera person
knew that that was that situation. I

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doubt it, if they were just
part of the camera team. But every

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time they showed her, all I
thought was, maybe this is an opportunity

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to mention something about the terrible layoffs, and this is going to remind somebody

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to do it. When she's on
the screen, No, didn't happen.

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The Israel Palestine situation sucks. The
layoff situation sucks. Both of those things

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are very important topics that could and
should have had a platform to be focused

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on last night. One of them
even stressed by the members of the so

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called future class that the Game Awards
considers to be the best and brightest of

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the younger generation of game developers,
and both were ignored. Spineless. It's

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cowardice, and it shows a lack
of awareness for the world around you,

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both internally in your little industry bubble
and externally in the world at large.

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And it sucks now and then people
will tell me why kit we just walk

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it. We just have a night
to start to break the video games.

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We wanted that toune. We didn't
get it right. We got ten minutes

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of three hours celebrating the actual winners. So spare me that crap. The

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awards. The Game Awards need to
change. It's that simple. You want

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to give three hours of a platform
to this industry, you have to do

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it by celebrating this industry. You
want to celebrate its future as you gave

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an hour and a half to last
night. Fine, that's fine. Have

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your trailers, have your reveals,
but you need to also make equal time,

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if not maybe more time to the
people who have already made their games

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and are looking to be honored after
winning your awards. It makes me wonder,

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like I said earlier, about a
show without him, what would that

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look like? What would the Game
Awards look like if he took a year

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off, just decided to do something
else, focus on summer games Fest and

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games Calm, and let us Game
Awards team do that. I truly wonder

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what that would look like. Am
I saying he's the problem? No,

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but he's the final decision maker.
What would happen if you made somebody else

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the final decision maker? How would
that look? It's an interesting idea.

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Is it going to happen? No? Not next year, not the tenth

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anniversary. Absolutely not after that.
No, we'll probably keep doing this as

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long as he wants. But I
am curious what that would look like?

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Just once, just once? I
suggest, if you want some extra reading

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on this subject, you go to
the Verge and read Ash Parish is former

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guest of Chief Takes and Controllers.
Read her excellent piece on the Verge called

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let Me Get the Name of It? For you. I want to make

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sure I get it right. Where
is it? She posted it right after

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the show she was on it.
It is called Jeff Jeff Keilly let video

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Game Developers Down? Is flat out
what it says. She says basically what

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kind of She goes into better detail
in what I was saying earlier. The

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numbers vary. Estimates. Estimates say
anywhere between six and seven thousand workers lost

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their jobs this year. No studio
or no level of studio size or success

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has been spared, and those who
have been let go are now forced to

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contend for an ever dwindling number of
open job prospects. And then she goes

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on to talk about how this platform
should have been used to address that and

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it didn't. Excellent writing by Ash
Parish highly recommend you go to The Verge

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and check that out. Also check
out the zax Weissen article from Kataku.

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The Game Awards needs to drop the
act and just become Winter E three props

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to whoever chose the cover image for
that one. That is a very very

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interesting place to do that. And
you know, I just I just wish

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the Awards show would be better,
Like I'm sitting here right now, as

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I'm saying these words, watching a
video of the Dublin office of Larry and

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Studios at what's this eleven o'clock Eastern, so it's four or five in the

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00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:44.920
morning for them right watching the Game
of the Year announcement. And as soon

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as they say Balder's Gate three on
that stage, that studio turns into the

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World Series Champions locker room. There's
champagne spraying everywhere. They're screaming, listen,

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00:40:55.719 --> 00:41:06.800
listen to this. That's amazing,
and listen to them. Go look

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00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.920
for at Kirakira Cosmo on Twitter has
this there. She's associate writing for Luster

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00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:17.159
Phaleron. Listen to that. Joy. Why am I watching this on Twitter

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00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:23.760
and not on the stage of the
Game Awards. Look at them, Listen

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to them. Incredible. That's what
the Game Awards needs. More of the

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cheers of those who won the awards, and not just the cheers from fans

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00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:45.840
excited to see all the new stuff
that the award winners won't get enough time

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00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:51.840
to talk about when they win the
Awards and Game Awards ceremonies of the future.

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And that is episode number one forty
one of the Chief Stakes and Controllers

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00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:59.559
podcast, presented by Fox PHL.
The Gambler won a two point five FM

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00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:07.400
what have you. If you want
to discuss this more, I am

519
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.360
at big Man Finelle on all of
the socials. Feel free to do that.

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This is a tough one. Like
I said, I love the Game

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Awards, I love watching them,
I love being a part of it.

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One of these years I will actually
go, and maybe I'll drag my wife

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00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:30.360
with me. But I can love
a thing and also say that it needs

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fundamental changes at its core. And
those changes were never more apparent than they

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were last night by the time that
show had ended. Hopefully next year for

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the tenth anniversary, they do better
than the actual tenth edition. As I

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always say at the end of the
episode, if you're hearing these words,

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that means you have reached the end, and I am ever so grateful and

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appreciative that you have done so you're
educated. I hope you're entertained again.

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I am more than willing to discuss
further on social media. I might try

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and do some more live streaming.
Now. You can come into my chat

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00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.239
at Jfans sixty four and talk to
me there. Ultimately, i'd love to

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hear your opinions on the Game Awards, what you liked, what you didn't,

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what you're looking forward to, if
there were things last night that were

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on your bucket list to be announced
and they were love to hear that,

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But just remember that that's not the
only thing that this is words they're supposed

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to be about, and it has
now overtaken half the show, which is

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pretty alarming. Regardless, I hope
you have a fantastic weekend. I hope

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you have an even better week right
behind it, and we'll be back again

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next week with more of the latest
and greatest and gaming news here on Chee

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Steaks and Controllers. See you later, y'all. F

