WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:06.599 Astounding Tales of the Public Domain with fatherom Alone, Stories of our Future from 2 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:13.240 the distant Past, enhanced audio performances from the Golden Age of science fiction featuring 3 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:18.239 tales by Paul Anderson, Marion Zimmer, Bradley, Robert E. Howard, 4 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:24.920 Ray Bradberry and Moore. Tune into Astounding Tales of the Public Domain with fatherom 5 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:47.560 Alone at Weirdingwaymedia dot com weird Way, You're always welcome with this particularly mission. 6 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:52.119 There's no's, no admission, no requirement of the membership, only a 7 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:59.960 strong and abiding belief in the dark at the top of the stairs or Lady 8 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.000 the Night Gallery. All right, all right, Loveler is welcome back to 9 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.519 Midnight Viewing The Night Gallery podcast, where we take a look at Ronson's follow 10 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:17.879 up to The Twilight Zone nineteen seventies, the Night Gallery. And joining me 11 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:23.519 here in the gallery are Chris Statue from the Culture Cast. Chris, this 12 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:30.040 ain't your Daddy's twilight Zone. Okay, as there were the tagline for this 13 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.280 Night Gallery cold this ain't your Daddy's twilight Zone. That would be that would 14 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.040 be like what happens in the Night Gallery stays in the Night gallerries right, 15 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.040 Yeah, Yeah, that's fair. Also also a good one. Also joining 16 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:47.120 us from the projection booth, mister Mike White, I so want to make 17 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.560 a reference to Fang, but I don't think anybody's gonna get that with Fang. 18 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.879 Yes, I remember Fang in Phillips. Of course he's mentioned it because 19 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.439 we're gonna be talking about Phillips in a second. In fact, we're talking 20 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.840 about season one, episode of five. I say art on January thirteenth and 21 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:06.799 nineteen seventy one and broken into three segments. The first is Pamela's Voice, 22 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.159 then a lone survivor, and the doll. Welcome heart lovers. We offer 23 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.120 for your approval of still life, if you will of noise, a soundless 24 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:20.919 canvas suggestive of sound. The mouth belongs to Pamela in life, a shrieking 25 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.400 battle axe made up of adnoid's tonsils and sound decibls. In death, an 26 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:31.400 unmuted practitioner of fishwifery, undeterred and UnGagged by what one would assume to be 27 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:37.360 the Great Silencer. Some ghosts come back to hunt. Others come back simply 28 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.639 to pick up where they left off. Our painting is called Pamela's Voice, 29 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:46.400 and this is the Night Gallery Now. Pamela's voice was written by Rod Serling, 30 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:51.599 directed by Richard Beckert, and stars Phyllis Diller and John Aston. Only 31 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:55.319 it's about a murderous husband who discovers that all too late, that the difference 32 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.879 between heaven and hell. Chris, you want to start on this one? 33 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.080 And I tell you, guys something funny. Sure, yes, I didn't 34 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:07.680 know that that was what Phillis Dillard looked like. Oh really? Like as 35 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.879 ah, did you just know her as a tune puppet, an old, 36 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:15.800 older person like in her seventies and eighties? Like when I say I didn't 37 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.520 know, I mean I knew because the episode told me. But I was 38 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:23.919 like, that's Phillis Diller. Yeah, like from like, I only really 39 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.800 think of Phillis Diller when she tells the when she's in the what the fuck 40 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.840 is that movie? Cope the Aristocrats? Oh okay, she's in The Aristocrats. 41 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:37.080 She had the voice of the Queens. Yeah yeah, but yeah, 42 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:42.199 but I didn't like, she didn't look like Phillis Diller outside of that though, 43 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:46.560 Gomez Adams killing his wife. I mean, come on, come on, 44 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:51.000 John Aston's great are you saying come on? Like you can't you can't 45 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:54.039 believe they made him kill his wife. Are you saying like hooray, No, 46 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:57.639 I'm saying, come on, like that's that's very tongue in cheek, 47 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.599 given that his the character that he is one more or less known for playing, 48 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.520 loves his wife immensely, and in as he's like, yeah, fuck 49 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:09.159 you, if this is hell, I'll die again. Like all right, 50 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:13.479 I love that I grew up with Phila Stiller. Just she was always there 51 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:18.439 for the longest time, just always there TV movies, there were so many 52 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:24.720 more variety shows and stuff on TV all the time, on talk shows all 53 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:29.120 the time. She was even the Monster's mate in Mad Monster Party. So 54 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:32.720 we've talked a little bit about her before. Yeah that was bad, Yeah, 55 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:38.000 very bad. But I mean she was just doing Phila Stiller everything. 56 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:43.959 Yeah, and literally yeah, because Fang was like my husband. I'd barely 57 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.839 remember this one. It really made a big impression. Yeah, because nothing, 58 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:51.160 nothing happens. Yes, that the simplicity and beauty of it is the 59 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:56.439 brevity. And yeah, to be fair though, like was there any more 60 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.439 that they could have given us and or that we needed? Not? Really? 61 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.600 No, right, I mean, look, it's who's afraid of Virginia 62 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:08.639 Woolf in two minutes with ghosts. You know, look, it suffers from 63 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:13.720 the rod sertling overly writerritis and it is bottled and whatever. But like you 64 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.279 said, Chris, it's it's quick overstay. Its welcome, definitely, And 65 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:24.720 some of their barbs at one another are actually pretty good. Like when she 66 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.680 shows up as a ghost, seemingly for the first time, she says, 67 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.639 you're surprised to see me, and he says, no, I'm not surprised. 68 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:34.199 You showed up everywhere uninvited your entire life. Why should anything be different 69 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:38.639 now? Like that's good, you know, I will say they sort of 70 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.720 tread with like or they sort of treat lightly the notion at the end, 71 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.560 which is this isn't a ghost story at all. This is she's in heaven 72 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.600 and he's in hell simultaneously, right, Like, that's what what's going on, 73 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:56.319 which is really metaphysical and fun for a brief little morsel at the beginning 74 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:59.879 of this episode, Yeah, I didn't. I was having our time on 75 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:05.399 understanding that conceit. Her heaven is just her heaven is torturing him okay by 76 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:10.399 talking, Okay, his hell is being tortured by her from talking. You 77 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.000 know, it's like an Oh Henry story in a way. Yeah, yeah, 78 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.920 I know. You know. Again, it didn't overstay, It's welcome. 79 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.399 John Aston's a good actor. It's great in everything. I've seen him 80 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.560 in The Fright Nurse being one of those things. He's okay, he's not 81 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:25.519 the best part of that, but he did you know he's the father of 82 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:29.759 Shawn Aston. He's the original Gomez Adams. Not only is he playing against 83 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:32.720 type here, but he underplays everything. He's really spooky, how quiet he 84 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:35.519 is. Like, yeah, I've never seen a performance like that from him 85 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:40.000 before, so that was really welcome and interesting. No, I like this 86 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.759 segment a fair amount only because it a doesn't overstay, it's welcome, and 87 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.800 the and the twist at the end is nice. It's a it's a it's 88 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:53.279 a it's a cheeky little twist. It is like the jokes are not really 89 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:57.120 that funny. I mean, I I've praised it for landing a few, 90 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.759 but like, I don't know, it accomplished what it set out to. 91 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.639 Just a couple hating each other and now they're tramped together forever and good for 92 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.319 them. And look. Twilight Zone nineteen eighty five didn't that they had those 93 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:12.360 like brief segments, those little essentially what amounted to interstitials. It can work 94 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:16.240 if they know what these are spectacular children's zoo. Yeah, Dreams for Sale 95 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.319 was literally the name of the show. I never really realized until we started 96 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.560 doing this show how much John Aston had to do with Nike Gallery. I 97 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.399 know right now, like because he directed a segment we've already we've already talked 98 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.000 about. He's in this one, he's in another one. I can't wait 99 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:32.040 till we get to that one because I remember it being hilarious, Like his 100 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.759 performance is so good. And I think he directs one more too, at 101 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:39.160 least one more, which is a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 102 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.079 I don't think if John Aston is anything other than an actor. So 103 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.160 it's interesting because you know, we have already seen him direct something and that 104 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.120 was okay. I mean I don't think he brought anything to it. The 105 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.519 failure wasn't the direction. No, I mean you did with what you could, 106 00:07:50.600 --> 00:07:57.920 you know, like the ultimate failure of the Tom Bosley Steven Spielberg episode. 107 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.199 It's not the direction, it's the terrible script. Yeah, but at 108 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.800 least here it's you can't go around the two people just throwing barbs at each 109 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.680 other and then getting a pretty decent twist. No, yeah, it's and 110 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.959 it doesn't overstate it's welcome either, which is the important part because it could 111 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:18.120 have shown him killing her, given us a couple of scenes of you know 112 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.519 them, it's like, I don't need that, Like they can do that 113 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.759 through dialogue and it's fine, and they did, and it's it's it's okay, 114 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.079 Yeah, it's It's a rare instance where it's kind of a strength to 115 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.159 just have them talking to each other, Like it doesn't feel like they're trying 116 00:08:31.159 --> 00:08:35.679 to skimp on a budget, like, oh, Diana, this is a 117 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.440 room of people talking. It's like, but that's what this is. It's 118 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:43.600 just everything in this episode segment is just much more well thought out. You 119 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:48.759 dig Boothhill baby, Like I love that line too, all right? Moving 120 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:56.879 on, Our next segment is called Loan Survivor and Unforgiving. She usually buries 121 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.080 its secrets beneath itself. Woarships and ocean miners, treasure gunnions, and submarines 122 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:07.919 turn into rushing relics inside a watery lacquer lost of memory, but occasionally there 123 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:13.240 comes a floating unbidden reminder of disaster like this lifeboat. The painting is called 124 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.240 a loan survivor. Will put it in tow and see where she came from 125 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.240 and won. Now. This one was written by Rod Sterling, directed by 126 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:26.639 Gene Levitt, starring John colicos Hedgeley Mattingly and Tarn Thatcher. This one, 127 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.039 a lifeboat is pulled from the North Sea, but it's it's occupant isn't exactly 128 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.399 what he seems. Would you think of this one, Mike? I actually 129 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.240 like this one. It goes on for a little too long, with this 130 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.360 whole thing of them pulling him up. And he survived the Titanic, and 131 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.440 I knew, I mean pretty much right before they said it. I was 132 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.559 just like, oh, they must be on the Lustinia. And then I'm 133 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:52.320 like, oh, okay, so what's the next boat going to be that 134 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.679 picks him up like the Andrea Doria. I don't know, but I kind 135 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:58.879 of like this whole thing of this doomed person, And I like John Ka 136 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.879 he goes a lot. I really obviously him in Star Trek being one of 137 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.159 the best Klingons around, and just he's been around forever. He's got I 138 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:13.480 know, you called this face weird, but I love that face. I 139 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.720 think that's really good. And I thought that he played that survivor, the 140 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.600 titular lone survivor. I thought that he played him very well. I just 141 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.559 now placed where he was from Mike because he said star Trek, right, 142 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:33.279 can you see him with the goatee and holy shit the og Klingon Yeah, 143 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.200 Klingon Pride. Him and Mark Leonard were like the original Klingons. Yeah yeah, 144 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:45.559 no, uh he was Baltard too, and Batistar galactic Yeah yeah, 145 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.320 but man, yeah, what a It kind of reminds me in a way 146 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.320 of a more subdued version of Richard Kylie's performance, where it's like a man 147 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:58.919 racked with guilt right with no way to deal with it. It reminds me 148 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.960 a lot of that episode. And I think it's just you know that episode. 149 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.559 I think we are big issue with that episode was it went on too 150 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:07.159 long. I don't think this. I think I think you're right. I 151 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.840 think this one goes on one bit too much because I think it could have 152 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.679 ended when it was like the Lucitania like that, you could have ended it, 153 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.279 right, Yeah, Like that's it hits that moment pretty hard, and 154 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.000 then it keeps going. It's like, but what, like, we know 155 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:24.399 what he's already said, what he is, Like, you don't need to 156 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.919 force feed me everything, right, yeah? Man, Yeah, you know 157 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:31.240 the idea behind this episode's fun. I like this idea of this, you 158 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.000 know, erstwhile dickhead who kind of did one thing and now he's being punished 159 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:39.639 for eternity for it. Like I like that. You know, the punishment 160 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.120 maybe doesn't fit the crime specifically, but holy shit, Night Gallery three X 161 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.799 paid Back. Yeah, welcome to the Night Gallery. Right. Yeah, 162 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.720 I like this episode quite a bit. Have the same problem I think with 163 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:58.720 you guys. It is just a little too long, and I think it's 164 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:03.120 right at the top, like you said, Mike, it's just the procedural 165 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.679 of pulling him up like quarter ahead, quarter ahead. They're calling it up 166 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.919 and down and then like and the problem is I noticed it right away. 167 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.679 You wouldn't have cared if even one shot showed us the ocean, if they 168 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.159 had shown one life boat bobbing on a wave, then we wouldn't have cared. 169 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.879 It was all interior set bound, and they're all just talking to each 170 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.399 other to the point where they like they're looking through the binoculars. They didn't 171 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:31.480 even give us a binocular shot of the boat, saying Titanic on the side. 172 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.879 Like I kept thinking, like do they understand this is a visual medium, 173 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.399 Like no, all of this can be even if they start in the 174 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:45.720 enterprises. It's in the enterprise's nurse enterprises, like first aid station is what 175 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:48.240 it feels like, you know what I mean? It's so fucking set bound, 176 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:52.879 Like, oh my god, looks like I was filmed in a closet 177 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.279 somewhere on the NBC backlot, Like I don't CBS backlot, excuse me. 178 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.840 I don't understand because like the episodes idea is sound, but then everything else 179 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.519 is just kind of like are we trying here? Yeah? And like why 180 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.080 are we spinning our wheels for like you know, like three or four minutes 181 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.679 at the beginning with that, you know, like we got to hoist them 182 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:16.279 up? Now you look, now, you look now, you look right? 183 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.799 Yeah, what do you see? What do you see? What fuck 184 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.200 is going on here? Get to the point. What a weird way to 185 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.120 start. But once he gets on the boat, like I'm on the on 186 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:28.720 board. You know, guys, my favorite record growing up as a kid, 187 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:33.639 I had this record. It was a Pickwick record called Famous Ghost Stories, 188 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.960 and that's exactly what we get here, Like you know it was. 189 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.960 It was for kids, obviously, just old famous ghost stories. When he 190 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.639 tells the tale of the wreck of the Titanic, man, I thought it 191 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.000 was pivoting. It's one of those cases where the set bound doesn't matter anymore 192 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:52.159 because the performance is so good and so captivating the stories he's telling. The 193 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:58.200 story he's telling is so good. What's weird is they don't they tell us 194 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.279 right at the outset that we're on the loose Titania. Like they pull him 195 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.399 out and go, he's on the Titanic, and then they pan over and 196 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.759 show the Lusitania. So so now it's not a oh my god, we're 197 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.519 on the Lusitanians and that as well, it's a is he or is he 198 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:15.039 a lunatic or not? But we already know that the Lusitania is going down, 199 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.200 so that's kind of a false start. But what they end up coming 200 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:24.200 up with this sort of human flying dutchman that he's that that this that none 201 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.559 of those people are real, right, it's all set dressing to punish him, 202 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.960 and he's gonna have to keep doing it. And then he'll meet the 203 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.399 ghosts of the Andrea Doria. Like that's really frightening to me, Like when 204 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.600 when when? Right before it happens when everyone is gone and he's left alone 205 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:43.559 on the deck to watch as the torpedo nears, Like that's pretty good. 206 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.600 We've endured a lot this season, but this one I liked a lot. 207 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.200 Yeah, I agree, it's a it's a lot of fun, and yeah, 208 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.960 it does kind of just go on a little too long, but they 209 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.039 want to get their more contemporary one in there, Andrea Doria. I mean, 210 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.799 you know, the Lusitania is not I guess it's kind of contemporary, 211 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:05.919 but they wanted to go one step further, and I think by going one 212 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.639 step further, I think it's one step just a tad too far. But 213 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.440 you know what, it takes away time from some of the other less successful 214 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.240 segments in this episode, So maybe it's not all bad. Did you notice 215 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.960 that? Like, so this is a period piece, right, this is 216 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.720 the first thing. This is the first period piece we've gotten from Serling for 217 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.960 a long time. Notice how much better all the dialogue seems coming out of 218 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:33.840 people when they're you tell me it's nineteen forty five. I'm like oh right, 219 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.559 yeah, yeah, this everything is good. Everything makes total sense, 220 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.840 and everything's normal, and everyone's attitude is good. You know, we're gonna 221 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:41.759 see it in the next one too. But like Pamela's voice, like, 222 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.639 man, no, he s he's trying, but it ain't there and certainly 223 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:50.600 not in previous episodes like he was. He was not a man of the 224 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.840 moment. No, but that's okay when it was working in Twilight Zone. 225 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.799 It's just now we're a little further ahead, right, and again this is 226 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.919 or like a Twilight Zone than not. I mean, oh, this episode 227 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.240 segment, for sure. If you peeled the color off of this and said 228 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.120 this is from sixty two, I'd be like absolutely, I remember this one. 229 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:14.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it definitely has that Twilight Zone flavored Yeah. 230 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:15.639 I mean, and it is a good twist, and you know, 231 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.679 yeah, all the performances are good. It's a good twist. But you 232 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.679 can't do the same twist in the same episode twice. No, Yeah, 233 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.399 the Andrea Doria one at the end, like yeah, it's like him alone 234 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.559 at the end. That's enough. We got the point, Like we know 235 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.799 what's going to happen again. It clearly happened again, right, it was 236 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.320 good. Yeah, yeah, really good. What a what a refreshing change? 237 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:42.240 Yeah, you're in the night gallery, moving off from ships like the 238 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:48.080 Titanic and the Andrea Doria to a small fragment of history. This little collector's 239 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.240 item here dates back a few hundred years to the British Indian colonial period, 240 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.720 proving only that sometimes the least likely objects can be filled with the most likely 241 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:02.000 horror. Our painting is called a doll, and this one you does not 242 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.799 play with all right now? The last segment is called the doll. This 243 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:11.200 one was written by Rod sort Lane, although he adapted this one. This 244 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.640 was originally from a short story by Algernon Blackwood. Directed by Rudy Dorn, 245 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:21.119 This one starred Shanny Wallace. Her name is spelled incorrectly, Wallace with an 246 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:25.559 I s at the end. That's not right. John Williams and Henry Silva. 247 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:29.960 This one's about a British colonel who's recently returned from Indian finds himself the 248 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.880 prey of a rather peculiar instrument of revenge. Mike, what'd you think of 249 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:41.799 this one? Oh? I surely they'd like seeing the Henry Silva. That 250 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:48.119 was nice And Henry Silva can play bullshit and the ethnicity. He's like the 251 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:52.279 lower budget Anthony Quinn. You know, Anthon even more so than Quinn, 252 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:56.160 Right, I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, Like you could plug 253 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.680 him into virtually anything, and I'll go, yeah, okay. If he 254 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:06.920 had been the gin in the uh make me laugh episode, like it could 255 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.279 have, it could have much better. Yeah, I think, yeah, 256 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.039 he would have been much better. And it wasn't like they were calling for 257 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:17.160 Jack. You're going to do a whole lot of comedy on that, so 258 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.519 yeah, have So it was a funny guy. Silva wouldn't even need the 259 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:26.319 turban, no, no, just those steely eyes. Yet they gave him 260 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:33.240 a turban in this yes they did. Yeah, boy, unfortunate this year. 261 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:36.359 It all seems to be pointing in one direction. What's going on, 262 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.680 Rod, I don't have a bad experience in India, like in between when 263 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.480 The Twilight Zone went off the air and this show came on. He's he's 264 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.039 a big fan of characters wearing turbans. I think we all are. But 265 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.240 that doesn't mean you have to take a white guy from Brooklyn and throw a 266 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:56.640 little brown on him. If we're gonna pretend he's from he's suddenly at least 267 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.119 he doesn't do a voice. That's I want to say that about Jackie Vernon 268 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.119 as well. That's the only silver lining in both these performances. Neither of 269 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:08.200 these guys like sort of descended into APU, right exactly. Yeah, And 270 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.400 I wonder if they were prodded to do so and chose not there or or 271 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.319 really wanted to Well, well never now, I guess. But like, 272 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:19.119 thank god in the end we didn't get that accent, but thank god we 273 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:25.000 got John Williams as a creepy doll. Oh certainly, who's got that doll 274 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:29.720 these days? That's that's the question that's on everyone's mind. Yeah, So 275 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:34.759 the doll is haunted. No, the doll is cursed with it. It's 276 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:40.400 it's cursed, it's hext by Henry Silva, Yes, animated by him? 277 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.880 Or is it its own thing? Did it come to life? Is it? 278 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:48.519 Is it all turned into a doll? What is going on in this 279 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.000 is the Dolls? The Brother? Yeah, I was a little bit more 280 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.440 than confused. I've really enjoyed it when I was watching it, and now 281 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.680 that I'm thinking about with the initial doll, Henry Silva sends to the colonel. 282 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.920 It was that a doll that he made animate through magic? Or is 283 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:11.400 it a like personification of somebody that he loved because he's there for revenge for 284 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:14.279 his dead brother, right, yeah, it was It couldn't have been his 285 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.960 dead brother though it was clearly like a little girl though, right. I 286 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.119 thought that the doll was there to kill John Williams. Right, so maybe 287 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:27.079 okay, but he didn't. Henry Silva never like spills the beans as to 288 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:32.079 like what in particular is making that thing run him up? Right? There's 289 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:33.359 like two or three scenes missing. Yeah, you know what? And I 290 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:40.000 always I always hate when when anything sort of genre and supernatural like over explains 291 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:45.880 things, but like a word or two would be I can handle. Yeah, 292 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.720 I don't know what was going on here, Like I I watched this 293 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:53.079 episode three times this second, and I still don't understand what the dolls because 294 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.559 he freaks out pretty hard at it. He's like, oh my God, 295 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.839 like oh no, like holy man, like get this thing out of my 296 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.200 house, and everybody else is like, it's just a doll. Man, 297 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.920 Can I defend him a little bit? It's a horrifying doll. Oh yeah, 298 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:14.160 but I mean it's really right now I'm Tiny Tina and I'm gonna kill 299 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:18.240 you. Yeah, exactly, like and this is like what's supposed to be 300 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.440 like nineteen sixteen or something like that, right, like, and he just 301 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.880 got back from India and like suddenly his little girls show the girl shows up 302 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.920 with this doll. It's all blasted, black eyed and freaky look and she's 303 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:30.960 like, this is my favorite thing in the world and it talks to me. 304 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.079 I'd be like, that might be a problem here if this thing is 305 00:21:36.119 --> 00:21:38.640 talking to you in what voices is it using the kind that are in the 306 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:44.279 lower register? Putting aside that it might be an instrument of vengeance, like 307 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.440 it's a really weird doll for your child to be toting. Yeah, yeah, 308 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.200 it's like it's like in Annabelle, Like the original Annabelle doll is a 309 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.119 raggedy ann doll that looks unassuming. Anyone would love that. You made it 310 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.000 really yeah, you made it really scary. And to miss the point, 311 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.119 it's scary because it's innocuous, not because it looks like a horrifying creature. 312 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.319 All right, all right, and I'm sure they would count like, well, 313 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.000 we couldn't do the rag end all. It's copywritten thing. It's like, 314 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.160 yeah, but you made up a gargoyle like a pleasant little rag. 315 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.720 It's like the same doll in this episode. It's the same thing where it's 316 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:23.279 like kind of weird and like tarnished and his eyes are strange and it sits 317 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.880 and stares at you. Get out of here. Dolls aren't scary. I 318 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:32.680 understand why people find them scary. I personally don't. But you can't tell 319 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:34.240 me that everybody's not going to look at that doll and just be like, 320 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:41.279 there's guy's gotta go, yeah, put that away. Your kids, Guys, 321 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.240 your kid? Something wrong with your kid? Like why are they toting 322 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.240 around this horrifying cool of a doll. I'm gonna give you, guys my 323 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.720 hope chest it's for your child, no more specifically her doll. Go. 324 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:56.119 So yeah, I was on the colonel side for that, you know. 325 00:22:56.319 --> 00:23:00.359 And so what does this end up being just like a a parable of like 326 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.359 World War two guards or something like. I was just following orders, but 327 00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:08.559 you're gonna get it anyway. But then Double Cross, Supernatural, Double Cross? 328 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:12.359 How did that happen? I loved it, actually, but I don't 329 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.920 know how it happened. What happens at the end, So Henry Silva gets 330 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.079 a doll of John Williams. That mean Henry Silva's going to turn into a 331 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:25.720 doll himself. Maybe I think maybe the magic's that Henry Silva was involved c 332 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.400 KS that created this doll that went off and murdered the thing murdered this guy, 333 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.160 Like did it murder him? That guy? Well, it's he's a 334 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.720 doll now, right, But say, is it like a gift or like 335 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.240 did he just turn into a doll? Did his Is it like a chuck? 336 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:42.680 Is it? Is it a chucky thing? Where like, yeah, 337 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.400 that's what I thought, where his spirit is in the doll, but his 338 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:51.079 body is dead. He didn't turn into a doll. I don't know what 339 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.039 the fox's going on here? Why did the doll look like him? I'm 340 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:56.680 even more convind Why is this one so confusing? But I don't hate the 341 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:02.119 episode, And there are episodes that late everything out so wonderfully and I can 342 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.400 I never want to think about them again, because you like that doll. 343 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:11.079 It's a good doll man and Henry Silva like breaking down barriers and like we 344 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.240 can accept him for some reason. Yeah, yeah, who knows? This 345 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.400 episode overall isn't bad. It's definitely better than the last one. The doll 346 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.799 had pretty good music too, like they were. They were leaning in heavy 347 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:27.960 on the water phone early seventies, like Horror TV Creep Factor. Well, 348 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:33.440 when you've got John Williams as your main character, right, the one and 349 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.160 only John Williams, I can do everything. Yeah, man, he can 350 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.960 be a doll. He can be you know, you can retire from from 351 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.079 from composing. Don't ever retire from acting, John, not, not from 352 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:49.799 what we've seen here today. And he's going to be on an episode of 353 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:55.640 Colombo here in the future. So yeah, composer John Williams. Johnny Williams 354 00:24:55.720 --> 00:25:00.640 to his friends, composing, just coming off of the law Us in space 355 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.359 up the song, Yes, yes, exactly, here's a jazz man that. 356 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:10.119 Yeah, he's about to head into the long goodbye territory. All right, 357 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.680 hang on, folks, are gonna play a commercial for our next episode. 358 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.240 Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to an exhibit of the Erie and the odd 359 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:23.839 Ball, Our first offering this evening faces paint, pigment and desperation, the 360 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:29.400 quiet desperation of men over forty You keep hearing footsteps behind them and are torn 361 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.519 between a fear and a compulsion to look over their shoulders. The painting is 362 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:41.720 called They're Turning down Tim Riley's Barn. Welcome, art lovers. 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