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Hey, everybody, welcome to Challenge
the podcast all about the Challenge as always.

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I'm Brian sitting in Germantown Hills grooving
on his camera and up in Minnesota

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carl and San Diego questioning her place
in the world, wishing she was living

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in Australia. Everybody had over to
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Matt He says, I just love
the music so much. That's why I

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stopped changing it because this theme is
a lot of fun. He Tim Marland

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or whoever whoever's doing the notes.
Very uh disjointed the episode this week.

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Yeah, we else hated this episode
as much as I did. Oh.

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Carlin said she missed the end of
the episode because her parents' DVR cut it

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off. No, it wasn't even
a DVR. So I'd log into Expinity

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and usually they have the episodes up
on the Exfinity on demand and it's not

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even a DVR thing, it's just
they're on demand that you can get anywhere.

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And I played the episode and our
mercenary walks out and gets introduced and

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then it cuts out, and I
thought that, like, okay, maybe

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someone logged in and it kicked me
out. No, it just straight up

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cut out, like that's that is
the end of the episode that they have

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saved in there. It's supposed to
be an hour and a half long episode

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and they have like sixty three minutes
of it. Yeah, even they know

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nobody gives a shit about this season. Yeah, this is the worst season.

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Terrible episode yep. So this episode's
going to be very interesting because I

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will do the first three quarters of
it and then Tim's going to do the

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last little bit, and we're gonna
surprise the fuck out a Wolf because he

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didn't watch it at all, Zach
Zach. Zach Zach texted us and said

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he's probably not gonna be able to
be there because he was having sort of

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a hiccup at work that was gonna
take his attention. And the other two

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we're bitching about how terrible this episode
was and how nothing has changed since last

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episode, and I was like,
cool, I'm not gonna watch it because

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I hadn't started it yet. Yeah. Really, when they when they don't

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send people home, nothing changes and
nobody should be surprised. Whaler spoilers and

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nobody's been going home lately, and
so it's like, this is the same

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episode as last time because nobody went
home. So the dynamics have not changed

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at all. And we've done this
several times in a row. It's very

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frustrating. Yeah, it's super frustrating. I'm real over it. I swear

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to god. If CT doesn't when
next week, I I don't even know

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what I'm gonna do. Yeah,
it's crazy, know what I'm gonna do.

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They say it a few times in
this this episode that there's sixteen people

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left. Yeah, we're thirteen episodes
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in the house. What's going on? Speaking of spoilers, people in our

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fucking Facebook group spoiled sort of the
outcome for me of this episode of the

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show. People. This episode people, there's a twenty four hour ban from

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discussing outcomes of the show, So
posting hell, I hate it when nobody

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goes home like that spoils it for
me. And that made me infinitely less

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interested. And then when these two
said, oh, it's a fucking terrible

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episode, I was like, oh, well, fuck it, I'm not

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going to watch it. Well,
to our credit, even if somebody went

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home this episode. It doesn't change. We've already said that nobody's gone home

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the last three, so it's this
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with the same exact players. Yep, but yeah, nothing changes. It's

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like but still all of the all
of the people in the Facebook group twenty

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four hours. You can put a
spoiler post in there, but you have

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to say spoiler post and either put
a bunch of dots so that it takes

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it down all the way so you
have to hit the load more, or

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just don't put it on there and
wait twenty four hours. Yeah, yes,

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people, Yeah, y'all suck.
It's against the rules. Nobody in

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our group is following the rules because
all of our admins have abandoned ship.

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That. Yeah, I guess we
can actually get into the episode now.

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No, I guess this season does
seem universally hated. Who is it?

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John? John in the Champ says, I hated Jay the whole episode.

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I did too. This season is
making me hate people. I used to

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like, what's going on with this
Jay? This episode? Just Michelle last

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episode and Jay this episode have just
fucking nose dived. Yeah. So we

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get back to the house and we
immediately get a talking head from Jay going

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on for like a solid minute about
how he and Michelle are running things and

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how Michelle just beat Kara and how
they need to set themselves up to get

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Kylin and Harassio out and just this
whole monologue of shit, like I don't

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want to hear your voice. I
want to see your face. I want

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to hear your voice. Get the
fuck off my screen. You have done

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shit this season. He's really high
on his own supply, as they say,

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Oh my god, they both are. They both are so hardcore and

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it gets real obvious later on with
him. Yeah, I think Jay's even

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worse than Michelle and this. I
mean, you can just tell Jay just

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loves himself this season. He's just
into himself. He thinks that he is

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the fucking shit. Yeah, there's
a lot of you beat Kara going around,

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which again I know that, Tim, I know you said last episode

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that you give this win counts for
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this one, the one against Darrell, the one against Laurel, like all

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three of those. You put physical
people in a fucking puzzle rather than in

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the sand, and it just it
taints it. It taints it. It's

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not the same tint wolf. He
said taint I said it multiple times twice.

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It's good. I'm looking at this
wolf. He's just strolling Facebook's.

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He hasn't seen this episode. He's
so uninterested. He just could not give

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a ship. He's being responsible and
working. Yeah, so it's just my

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notes to say that I'm over this
Jay and Michelle thing because it's a lot

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of them going back and forth.
We finally get a talking head from Raven

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saying that she is no longer to
be working with Jane Michelle, that she's

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just fucking over it. She's tired
of their bullshit, kind of like we

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all are. Goose for says Jay
is constantly live on TikTok, sucking his

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own dick and trying to sling his
merch. I wonder if that's literal.

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Is he literally? Second? And
did he get the the removing of the

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rib thing, Marilyn the rumor that
when viral around the country when we were

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in like grade school, before viral
was even a than Seriously, how did

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we all know that everybody know that
Paul from The Wonder Years got his rib

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removed? Yeah? John wants to
know if this elimination was meant for bananas.

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I have some thoughts on that.
We'll get to that as they get

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into the Okay, into the arena, we'll talk to it later. Then

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we get our first scene of Olivia, first scene of this this episode of

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Olivia talking shit about her relationship with
Horacio and how he is. You know,

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he doesn't have her back and he
doesn't talk to her talking about all

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of that to someone else and not
to him. This is the second episode.

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Again, it's this is groundhog Day. These fucking episodes. We have

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to hear Olivia for the third episode
of a row say that Jay is a

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bad friend. In this episode,
she does this like six times. I

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know, it's just constant, and
almost every single one of those times,

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they like skew the camera just slightly
and you can see Harassio like within twenty

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feet of heart. Yeah, you're
like, I it's weird. We're all

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in high school. It's just turn
over your shoulder, be like hey,

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Rassio. But yeah, we not
talking to me. Yeah, this is

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middle school weird shit. We like, I used to like Olivia too,

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and now I've gotta deal with this
for three episodes. Yeah, Jay's a

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bad friend. Shit just fucking go
talk to him or don't like who cares?

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But Hirasio Jay is a friend or
whatever? Who cares? Who cares

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about any these people? It's all
just apparently we do. We do a

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podcast about it. I guess I'm
just so sick of this ship. This

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is the worst season. This season
is terrible. Yeah, it is terrible.

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Yeah, there's just there's a bunch
of other bullshit, like Maurice is

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telling Hirasia that he needs to break
out of a shell because he's so quiet

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even with her, which I agree. I this season is making me hate

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Horassio because he's so fucking quiet about
everything. He's not fun to watch.

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No, he's and I think he's
playing the role too of this like just

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super positive guy dock Man. Yeah, it's just like it seems inauthentic,

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it seems weird. Yeah, when
he gets called out later and he does,

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oh, well, I mean I
think I should have gone, no

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you don't. Yeah, oh and
thank you for throwing me in guys,

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I deserve Oh fuck off Rasio.
Just yeah, he does feel like he's

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playing a part. It's just it's
awful. We Kylon complaining again about how

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the social environment is difficult. He's
having trouble navigating it. I mean,

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that's kind of the point of the
challenge. I feel like everybody has issues

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navigating the social environment, regardless of
who they are or whether they have any

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anything on the spectrum. It doesn't
matter if they all have issues with it.

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Yeah, and then we get to
the challenge. How uh. This

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challenge is called getting tanked, which
I did kind of I found kind of

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funny. I like it when they
get a little clever with the they've been

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lazy lately. I like this one
too. Yep. So this challenge is

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instead of being played on top of
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inside and on top of a tanker, so a semi with a big tank

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behind it, rather than the typical
shipping container. Uh. In the container

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in the tank, it's like,
I don't know, probably two thirds filled

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with water. You have all of
the team it's teams of four, and

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you have three of the four players
inside the tank collecting plaques that have letters

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on them, and you have one
person on top of the tank collecting the

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letters from the players from the inside
and putting them on the end of the

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tanker to spell out the words challenge
champion and whoever does its fastest wins.

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This would have been fun to be
on the inside of this tanker truck.

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It would have been a lot of
fun to do. I would pay to

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do this, like at a theme
park of a month. Yeah, thats

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been a lot of fun to do. Yeah, the tanker truck is driving

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and kind of like go inside to
side, and so you're, you know,

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flopping around inside this tanker truck and
you could. I noticed that they

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all had on rather than just letting
them like swim around, they all had

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on harnesses to keep them above the
water level. Yeah that makes sense though.

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Yeah, I just I when I
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this feels like MTV being so safe
with their with their players. And

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then I saw the harnesses. Okay, cool, they do actually care if

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these people get hurt. What if
it was filled with margarita. Oh that'd

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be great. Yeah, yeah,
kind of gross, but it would be

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great. Nope, I just drink
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in there. The alcohol kills germs, that's how it works. That's fine.

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Yeah, they drinking it and refill
it out between or not. Who

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cares. I still drink it.
You guys watched Last Man on Earth.

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He had a Margarita pool. It'st
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would become a nice all right.
So first team, I noticed that they

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were doing like they had people.
The people inside were handing out like full

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stacks of letters, like four or
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going real fast. That team had
j on it. The second right,

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Yeah, that team had j on
it. The second team, Harasio was

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paired with three people from the Jay
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him out, who spend this entire
episode talking about how they want to get

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him out. So they threw the
fucking challenge like one hundred percent through this

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challenge. They would hand him one
thing at a time, and they were

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by far and above the losers of
this challenge. Do we think Harasio really

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had no idea that this was happening. I mean, he sure has fuck

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acted like it even at the end. Yeah, that John is asking the

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same question. I just asked,
how did he not know? Because it's

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this seems obvious to me. They
did so poorly, and it was all

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because the letters weren't being thrown out
like he should have known. This was

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this should have been super easy.
Well, he had Asof on the team,

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and Osof was chalking it up to, oh, well I just can't

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spell because I don't English isn't my
first language. Yeah. But like at

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the end when they were interviewing the
team and Harassu was telling, oh,

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well, you know, we had
this whole plan. The plan just kind

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of went to shit, And you
can see the look on Michelle's face where

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she like she's trying not to smile, yeah, when she's like, oh,

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yeah, I just went to shit. Yeah, you threw the fucking

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challenge. Yeah, the smile was
more like, how does he not understand

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what happened? Just now? Very
weird. Yeah, Harassi is not made

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to do this game. I think
he's just like an athletic guy. And

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that's kind of all all Harassio is. To be honest, Yes, John

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ossif does suck ass, I don't
know that. I'd go as far as

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I want to want his harness to
break in the tech, but he does

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suck ass. I don't want him. I don't want him dead. But

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uh, that's right, that's the
best thing. Third team did. They

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did okay, and then fourth Team
just absolutely smashed it. Ultimately, we

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get down to the end and TJ
says, well, we had two teams

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that were separated by two seconds because
we don't have Zach here this week.

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Who thinks that's a lie? Always, always alive, Always. I love

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Zach for his his naivety on thinking
that the the challenge God's will just not

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screw with the numbers or screw with
the game. They absolutely do, Like

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there's there's no way in hell that
they don't screw with that. Yeah.

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Swannee brings up Ed. I did
like Ed in this competition. I like

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that he's sort of is shining a
little bit. He might be the one

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person that I like him the same
as other times I've seen it. Yeah,

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because they're not showing him too much, and every time they do show

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him, he's still his fun,
quirky, like entertaining self. Yeah.

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He hasn't been too over the top
in really shitty ways. No, he's

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not been involved in weird child drama. Yeah, and I think that's part,

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like this is all B level cast
that we should just see in little

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bitty snippets. Yeah, and we
see him too much. It's like,

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well, I don't like him anymore. Yep, Ed is still a minor

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character. I like that. Yeah, Goose for says, did you see

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the winning team used an upside down
W instead of an M? No?

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I did not notice that. I
don't know. I was also only kind

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of half paying attention because I was
trying to take notes and I was just

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so fucking over this episode. So
yeah, so really the winning team may

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not have actually won. Yeah.
So ultimately the winning team is Olivia,

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Ed, Corey, and Berna,
and they come out saying Corey says,

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we're gonna make a power move,
like they're all super excited. We get

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a quick talking head of Mariah saying
that they better not fucking throw James in

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or I'm gonna be really mad.
This is super out of left field.

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This hasn't been brought up at all
this episode. Like I legitimately completely forgot

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that James is even in the show. Yeah, if we just get this,

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like, where where did that come
from? I know, I swear.

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I think production plays these games now
because they realize we are bored as

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fuck. It is one alliance that's
making the all every week because nobody ever

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gets home. It's the same fucking
thing every time, and so they like

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throwing this stuff that's like, oh, maybe they're gonna shake it up.

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They like make us question it for
a second, but it never never works

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out. No, it doesn't.
And Corey this week and it still didn't.

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Yeah, So Corey throwing in Harassio
or saying Rossio's name is not a

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power move. And in fact,
that was the whole thing was orchestrated by

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the Alliance to lose to do that. So it's not this is not a

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Corey move and it's not a power
move. It's just sort of how the

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game happened. And I don't like
Corey taking a power move. Would have

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been throwing in j Yeah, yeah, shaking it up Jay or Immanuel,

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that would have been a power move, go against the expectations of what they're

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supposed to be doing. A power
move is not throwing in the same people

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that you've been trying to throw in
every episode. Yeah, in accordance with

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what the Alliance tells you to do. This is just the Alliance working its

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magic. Corey said the name,
but he didn't like make the decision.

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Yeah. Uh, Corey does say
like he turns to Olivia when he's getting

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ready to say Hirasio's name. He
says, sorry, Olivia, I know

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you're not gonna like this, and
she doesn't actually say anything. The only

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response that she has to Hirasio's name
getting thrown out there to her team is

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there's no way I'm going to be
able to sway you guys's boats is there

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and they're like no. And then
when his name gets set out to the

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rest of the rest of the group, she goes, I'm sorry, Horatio.

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I didn't have I couldn't do anything. You didn't actually try. And

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we've already had talking heads and like
seen you talking with other people about how

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you no longer have his back because
you don't think he has yours even though

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you haven't actually talked to him to
find out if he does. Yeah.

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Yeah, Olivia put up no fight
here at all. She didn't try to

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advocate for put up more of a
fight. Yeah, after this was all

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like, Kyland then calls out after
Corey announces that they're doing uh harazio.

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Kylon does an offhanded colds oh,
because you're scared, and Corey lets loose.

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What do you mean I'm scared?
This doesn't scare. This is the

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bulls he has moved that we've done
all season. No, man, it

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was just starting to like Corey again
too. And then he pulls this ship.

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That's the bravest thing anyone's done this
game. Oh fuck off man.

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Yeah, he didn't do anything.
He said a name. It was Oh

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the one thing I wrote this down
because I could not believe that he said

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this. So Corey while in there
in his talking head or no to the

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rest of the group, I don't
know. In this whole scene, Corey

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mentions that he thinks Harasi is one
of the best players to ever play this

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game. Yeah the fuck planet is
he on? Based on one season where

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he didn't win it. Yeah,
one season where he didn't win it in

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a second season where both of them. He has no social game, he

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has no political game. He's decent
at the at the physical stuff, but

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you don't get along on just that. Like, is Corey fucking high?

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Yeah, well, I think they're
worried about him in a final, but

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yeah, to say he could do
the physical shit, but we haven't seen

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him do a puzzle. We haven't
seen him like, yeah, I'm with

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you, No, I'm totally with
you, totally with you, And we've

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seen him freak out if he loses
something. So like, if they do

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a final where they get paired,
where they've done it, where they switch

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up the pairs every section of the
final, if he loses one of those

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sections, is he going to start
bawling like he did with the last season.

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Yeah, it is funny. Like
I feel the same way about Rassio.

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I really really liked him last season. I was excited to see him

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back, and now it's just like, oh, fuck Rassio. He's just

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at best, he's boring at work. At worst, he's like this authentic

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like I don't even know how to
describe him, like he's just yeah,

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he's just I don't like him.
Brian. Brian in the chat room said

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that Corey doubled down on all of
his comments on Twitter. Oh how good

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Rao is? Are you kidding?
I'm sure that Horasio can can compete physically

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manifinal next week. I'm glad.
I'm we get to see it, all

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right, we'll see it next week. But yeah, it's I I agree,

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he's not a contender in any other
way. He's not good socially.

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He doesn't really have people that you
know, have his back. I mean,

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yeah, and I wouldn't put him
say one of the best ever.

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No, No, in order to
be one of the best ever, you

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have to be a Johnny Banana is
a wes a ct A car like you

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have to He's been heard. You
have to have some wins. You have

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to have some wins, but you
also have to have the political and social

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side of this, like that is
a huge part of this game. Yeah,

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they hit, just don't understand.
So they go back to the house

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and we just get a bunch of
talk. Like it starts out, it's

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a solid, like three or four
minutes of nothing, but people talk about

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how they want to put Kyland,
and just everybody talk about how they want

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to put Kyland. And then we
get a shot of Kylan talking about how

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he wants to get in j and
they start rating, they start counting the

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numbers to get to put in Jay, and they are pretty goddamn close.

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They're very close. Yeah, they
Zara goes and talks to James, because

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James is supposed to be on the
alliance that's against Jay. Sara goes and

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talks to James and says, we
have a legitimate shot to get Jay in,

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but you have to side with us. You have to put your vote

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in with us. You can't put
you're voting with the other team, and

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you cannot tell Mariah in this stupid
little bitch turns around and immediately goes and

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tells fucking Mariah. Zara has a
really funny comment about how he has to

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go talk to the boss. Yeah, just pure amateur hour over here.

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It's just we see this every season. These rookies don't know what they're doing.

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They just play into the people that
have done it before. Yeah,

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in this case. Also, it's
also really interesting to see the dynamic between

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Mariah and James switch because it was
very like he was the power player in

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that dynamic for a while, and
now it seems to be that she's the

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power player because her alliance is now
protecting him because he's apparently now part of

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the US alliance, right a few
times. Yeah, that's the weird thing,

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and this is how alliances work.
Like none of us should be surprised

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by that. That you have your
core and then you have sort of these

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like members on the fringes who are
sort of they'll vote with you, but

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they're gonna be cut immediately. And
like, of course that's James and Colleen

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and all these people, and they
know that now, and even knowing that

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they're not going to change it up. Well, I don't know how these

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people didn't know it ahead of time, Like you, you aren't like best

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friends with these people. Of course
they're going to take their outside of this

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game best friends. Yeah over you, yep um. But yeah, it's

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just it's really dumb. But that's
when we start getting Jay. Jay hears

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that his name has been thrown out
by Kyland because of this whole shit show,

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and he goes and sits down with
Kyland and oh my god, what

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was this? Fucking loses his goddamn
mind. Well, for you should watch

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that just this few minutes. It's
bizarrely, he thinks that he is the

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biggest, baddest fucking dude out there, and he walks in like, so

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I hear you want to throw my
name down there. I love this,

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I love this, I love this
confrontation ship. I'm in. Let's do

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it. Fuck off, man,
I'll take you down. Let's let's do

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this. Like he gets real fucking
big and bad about it. But he

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also there's a lot of talk.
He throws out that he's bored and how

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he wants to make big moves and
then throws out the game has finally started.

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What do you mean it's just starting? So yeah, it's one of

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those things people say because it sounds
cool, but it doesn't so it doesn't

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mean anything. Yeah, Okay,
Jay, when we do nominations, you

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you throw yourself in. Yeah.
And then when it comes time for the

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elimination, I will tell TJ no, no, no Champ, no nothing,

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just me versus Jay, send one
of us home. Let's do it,

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Jay, And I bet Jay,
But I don't own you know,

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let's I don't want to do that. Yeah, he is an all taught

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guy. Yeah, he's not more
yeah Jay, And maybe it's just because

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Jay is more featured, but he
is really not home what. I don't

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know if he's trying to play a
villain or just trying to get more airtime

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or whatever. But his talking heads
bother me. His like behavior in the

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house bothers me. I don't like
how we talked to Kyland here. I

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just don't. Yeah, I'm over
Jay. I mean he at one point

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in time, just before this,
he talks to Nourice because Nourice finally she

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says that she finally realizes that she's
a pawn, that she's being played as

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a pawn by Michelle and Jay,
that they're not actually equals, that she's

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underneath them in this alliance, and
he just she brings it up to him

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and it's kind of like, why
why are you calling out Kyland because you

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know that Kyland and Horasio are my
two big people, Like what is going

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on here? And he just gaslights
the ever living shit out of her.

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I got a lot of trouble watching
that episode, but partly I was like,

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this is like, this is fucking
awful. I can't deal with your

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bullshit. Was this the one that
then in his talking hand he said something

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about like, oh, Nurice,
like she'll she'll say whatever she wants,

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but she's always gonna vote the way
I tell her to or something. Yeah,

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it was just like, dude,
you look so shitty, Like everything

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you're doing looks shitty. I mean
it really. It kind of harkens back

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to like FESSI in his second season, where he was doing all of this

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shit and saying all of this bullshit
and then like, I guarantee you that

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Jay's coming out of this episod out
of this season, like I'm fucking badass.

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This season was fucking great. Everybody's
gonna fucking love me, And now

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that he's getting all this hate what
what what do you mean? I guarantee

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you that's what's going on. Yeah, he's not the type he's and Festi's

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this way too. Like they they
sort of seem like a villain, but

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if you ask them to play a
villain, they wouldn't do a very good

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job of it, because I think
they want They both really want to be

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liked, and both are sort of
confused as to why they're not. Yeah,

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we like We get another another scene
of Olivia talking shit about Rassio behind

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his back, and this time it's
to Nourice and Lurice. He kind of

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he talks to her and talks to
Nouricse later and is like, no,

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Olivia would never talk shit about me. Olivia like, I have her back,

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she has mine, and he's kind
of like, I don't know about

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that, but even that's weird that
he would think that without having talked to

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her. Why are these people not
talking to each other. We don't know

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the extent to which they are just
mute to each other, but are they

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really just like not saying anything to
each other. I mean, that's that's

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how it looks, That's how it
feels like coming through this TV. It

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feels like they have been in this
house for our however many weeks, and

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I've literally not said a single fucking
word to each other since they got there.

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Yeah, and that is incredibly unusual. Like if I was in a

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house with sixteen people, I would
probably talk to every single one of them

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almost every day, right, just
sort of in passing. Just pass me

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the salt, hand me a towel, like whatever it is that you say

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to people when you're living with them. Yeah, it's so bizarre, especially

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if it's someone who you not only
are friends with out of this show,

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but you spent all of last season
as their ride or die. Yeah,

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Like, how are you not saying
anything to each other? Yeah, it's

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very weird, very bizarre. Let
me have club night. It was very

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helpful, Thank you. Apparently the
club is in the basement of the house.

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Oh there. It shows scenes of
like a city I don't think they're

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in. I don't think anywhere to
where that city is, and maybe like

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on the outskirts of it. From
what I've heard, it's it's just a

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it's in the basement of the house. I mean, I'm sure that cuts

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way down on the budget. Yeah. Well, you know, we never

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see anybody else in those balls,
you know, the bars, other than

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the players these days. Yeah,
that's a good way to do it.

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Keep those COVID rates down, keep
cover rates down, keep the players contained,

406
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,759
I guess. But that would be
weird to be partying like that with

407
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,960
just a few other people. And
you know what I mean, I guess

408
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,480
they get used to it. We
get caught. All the parties we had

409
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:42,799
at your apartment, it was always
the same people, true, so it

410
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,240
wasn't my life too. All of
our parties are always the same people.

411
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:51,960
It's fun though, good times fun. I know. None of them are

412
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,200
like us, getting out and like
going full club and house music, like

413
00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,119
dancing on a dance floor though,
and that seems to happen pretty often in

414
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,359
these shows, which it's a little
weird. Yeah, that's the weird part

415
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,119
to me. Yeah, normally it's
just like twenty of us sitting around in

416
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,640
the house, draking beers and talking
for a few hours, listening to music

417
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,680
whatever. Yeah, it's when there's
sixteen of you in a big club and

418
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,319
eight of you or on the dance
floor. It's like, yeah, it's

419
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:23,640
weird. She's never been to a
Bryce Moss Avenue party. I have not

420
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:30,880
had music thumping you can hear from
blocks away. Please show up a couple

421
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
of times, be like, hey, turn it down. We used to

422
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:41,000
have a vomit contests off off the
deck. No wonder you like the gross

423
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:48,720
episodes? Love It Love It started
early, of course, So in the

424
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,759
club, we get Colleen talking to
Jay trying to kind of feel out where

425
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:57,279
her placement is in this alliance,
saying that she doesn't want to be part

426
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:00,799
of this alliance if she's at the
very bottom, but she just needs to

427
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,839
not say that. She just needs
to to know that and do other things,

428
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200
but not say that to the person
running the alliance. Yeah, it

429
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:16,599
was very weird. We get Olivia
talking to another person, uh oh,

430
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,759
talking to I think it was Jay, and in the shot of her talking

431
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:28,880
to Jay about Horasio, Horasio is
literally like ten feet behind her. Yeah,

432
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,599
really weird, really awkward, so
bizarre. Yeah, and then then

433
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:37,160
Harassio approaches her and finally he's finally
just like, okay, let's talk.

434
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Let's just go talk. Yeah,
and she kind of has this like,

435
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,359
oh, I don't know if I
want to talk to you look on her

436
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,279
face like, yeah, you've been
bitching about this non stop and now you

437
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:51,359
don't want to talk to him.
Yeah, And then that weird. So

438
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,240
then we get Olivia and Harassio talking, and to be honest, I don't

439
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,680
remember anything that they said. I
truly don't care. But this is when

440
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480
I started looking at Harassio like,
oh, he's a little weir weird too.

441
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,680
I think he's a little socially weird. I wonder if he's got a

442
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,160
little autism over something like Kylin,
because he's a little out of sorts.

443
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,359
He seemed super uncomfortable. He said
weird things. This conversation was weird.

444
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,519
It was weird, like he yeah, it was basically just him saying that

445
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,880
he has her back no matter what, like it doesn't matter who's who says

446
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,440
her name, he will always fight
for her to not be down there.

447
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,640
He will always fight for her and
be on her side. And it was

448
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,640
just it was odd. She doesn't
seem to be convinced by the end of

449
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,079
it, though, she still seems
to have this like I don't think you're

450
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,440
on my side. Look, but
yeah, well, I don't think he

451
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:45,559
is. I I don't know what
he's doing, but I don't think even

452
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,319
he knows what he's doing. He's
just he's just sort of there. I

453
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,599
remember you said last episode to somebody
else like she's my number one. I

454
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,880
would never say her name. Yeah, I think he is still on her

455
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,119
side. I think she is way
far away from his. Yeah. And

456
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,799
also the term number one has lost
all meeting on this show because they even

457
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,239
say outright like, oh, she's
one of my number ones. He's one

458
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,079
of my number one, Like,
that's not you can't have multiples. That's

459
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,800
some of his works. There's one
one number one. Yeah. Do you

460
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,320
think that's it's a guy versus girl
thing too, because like me and Tim,

461
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,639
we'd be like we just go in
and be like, oh, she's

462
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,280
my friend, of course, just
got my back. I mean like we

463
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,079
don't even talk about it. Yes, whereas the girls, like I need

464
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,360
told every morning when I wake up, your best friends, Carl Carlin,

465
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,199
let's get a little stink face on
about that one. No, I don't.

466
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,000
I don't think that it's a guy
versus girl thing because if you think

467
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:47,920
back into previous seasons like Johnny and
West consistently use I have my number one

468
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,400
spot. If this person goes home, that spot is now open, or

469
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,719
if this thing happens, that spot
is now available. They use that all

470
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,320
the time. I think in this
season we see it more of like the

471
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,239
girls needing to be consistently told,
like, oh am I here number one?

472
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Am I in that spot? But
I don't think it's a guy versus

473
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960
girlfriend. I think it's just this
season that it feels like it, like

474
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,599
if the three of us went on
the show. I don't imagine Carl would

475
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,880
be that way. Looking at the
girls that are on this show, I

476
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,559
do feel like they need to be
babied. Oh my god. Every day

477
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:31,239
they all need like you know,
they wake up their number one is by

478
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:37,199
their bedside, Hello, number one. Yeah, welcome to Tuesday. Don't

479
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:43,079
forget we're number ones. Like that, they need that when they wake up.

480
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:45,039
There are a few scenes of Berna
saying, like, you know that

481
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,519
we keep talking to veriou different people
and trying to like she talks to to

482
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:51,559
Colleen at one point in time,
she's like, you know, you should

483
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:53,480
really side with the people who love
you like we love you, like this

484
00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:58,280
is a game. Why is that
the word that you're using in this game.

485
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Yeah, it's just it's so bizarre. Yeah, I mean, this

486
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,199
is this this season is amateur hour, and we're seeing we're like fucking awful.

487
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,639
There's signs of it everywhere, from
like even the drama is boring of

488
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,840
like you're not my friend anymore,
dramas like who gives a shit about that?

489
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,320
Like the gameplay is weird and amateur
It's just like, this is a

490
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,280
season that's very difficult to watch.
They're dumbing down all of the they're they're

491
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,599
watering down. Not dumbing down,
they're watering down all of the eliminations.

492
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,559
Like if this for a normal season
and we had gotten this far in and

493
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:38,000
had not had a hall brawl or
a pole wrestle or a balls in,

494
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,800
we don't be sitting here like we
are with this one, going what the

495
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,880
fuck is going on? Yep,
I blame every sea. Every problem this

496
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,679
season has is production's fault. Every
every scene is every part of it.

497
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,760
Even though cast that I hate is
production's fault for making me hate them.

498
00:36:55,639 --> 00:37:00,639
Yeah, format's not good this season. There's a lot of problems. It's

499
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:08,320
just it's even because even if we
took if we took this cast all right,

500
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,440
and we put a uh like the
seasons where it's like you have to

501
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,199
have a skull in order to make
it into the final. Yeah. Yeah,

502
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,760
that format would work so much better. Fuck yeah, because they would

503
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,719
rip each other apart because everybody's so
fucking insecure. All of the alliances would

504
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,760
have been done within the first like
three weeks because they wouldn't have been able

505
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,039
to figure their shit out. Yep, like, oh god, it would

506
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,679
That would have been so much better. Yes, there are so many things

507
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,119
they could have done that would have
made this better. Yeah. Stop having

508
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,199
episodes where nobody goes home. Yeah, like, whatever you have to do

509
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,440
in the game format, I don't
really care what it is to bring the

510
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:51,320
champs back and also have somebody go
home, like they have to do that.

511
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,039
They have had a chance, like, yeah, you know, if

512
00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:55,239
they had to do it where they
had to go down into the sand in

513
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,679
order to get a skull or whatever
to be able to make it to the

514
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,800
final, they could have really played
that up in chaos. They could have

515
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,719
said, Okay, because this is
chaos, we're gonna like it would instead

516
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,159
of it being only like eight competitors
long, it's gonna be ten competitors long,

517
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,159
and you have ten slots to go
down into the sand. There are

518
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:20,760
only ten slots to go down into
the sand, and you have to beat

519
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:27,159
a champion in order to get your
spot in the final. Yeah, yep,

520
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,360
something like that. Yeah, I
mean it could have been somebody.

521
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,360
They could have done something really fun
with that, like it. I know

522
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,400
it's really frustrating, but I feel
the same way. I just want to

523
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,800
shake this season and the producers like, what the fuck are you thinking?

524
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:51,000
This is the every worst idea imaginable
all combined. I don't understand what was

525
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:53,599
the first phase? Control? Is
that what it was? Sure, give

526
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:58,320
us a ship. Why do we
even need these phases? I'm saying that

527
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,440
that phase, if you want to
go to make it to the final,

528
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:07,480
you have to go against the champion
to get a skull. There's only ten

529
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,519
slots available. Ten people get skulls. Guess what, we're in the chaos

530
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,840
phase. No more champions. You
want a skull, you have to steal

531
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,920
it from somebody who already asked,
Oh, yeah, there you go.

532
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,199
That's the way to do it,
Like on the Island with the keys.

533
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Yeah, yeah, you have ten
weeks to get the keys. You then

534
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:30,360
have six weeks to steal the keys, right, and then you have six

535
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,679
weeks to keep the keys. Yeah, and then you got to watch everybody

536
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,960
else do the final. If you
don't have your key, you're done.

537
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,559
You just watch them. Yeah,
say much better. We just made this

538
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:43,679
show, dude, I'm telling you, it wouldn't take much to really improve

539
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,119
this. It's like they it's like
they purposely fucked it up every time.

540
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,639
I mean, they get the champs
that we love, but they give them

541
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,480
shitty games, Like what's going on? Like, how could they have not

542
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,719
just given them good games? I
don't know, right, I don't get

543
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,280
would. Yeah, this season,
these last few episodesdes would not have been

544
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:09,320
as bad if they had given the
champions real competitions. One, because the

545
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,079
season is so bad, that's all
we wait for is the champs to come

546
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:15,760
there, like that's that's all we
give a shit about. And then they

547
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,079
come out and it's like, oh, they don't get to touch each other.

548
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,840
They're just gonna be fucking trying to
catch shit on fire with their feet.

549
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:27,440
Who gives a shit? The episode
with Jordan like that, yeah,

550
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,360
will be the epitome of this entire
fucking season. Even though they gotten like

551
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,159
they got stopped when they started wrestling, they get it started there, they

552
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:42,920
were told that they can't do that. Even then, he's still it was

553
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,079
still a more physical like you have
to be with this person. You have

554
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,199
to do it in person, like
you are actually competing against them. You're

555
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:53,800
not playing two separate games at the
same time. Yeah, these race games,

556
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,440
these have to stop. They need
to be like against each other.

557
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,679
Yeah, like you said, like
a ball's in like a hall brawl,

558
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:06,000
pull wrestle. Yes, Casey's pull
wrestle maybe the only decent elimination this whole

559
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:08,360
season. Did she do a pull
wrestle? She did do a poll wrestle.

560
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,679
Yeah, And Jordan's running thing was
pretty good, and I think it

561
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,360
was I think Jordan's was so good
because one because it was Jordan, and

562
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,960
because it was the very first one
and because Kieren went home. Yeah,

563
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:27,599
and even Devon's was good. Like
Devin did the puzzle, but Devin is

564
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:30,440
Devin, Like we expect him to
do a puzzle. That is what he

565
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:36,000
is known for. That's what we
want to see him competing in. Yep,

566
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,679
and we really but we also see
the difference between like the Vets that

567
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,159
we love. There's something completely indescribable
about them. But like when they're on

568
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:50,960
our screen, like we are engaged, we want to hear that, we

569
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,159
want to see them do stuff.
And then when like James is on the

570
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:55,360
screen, it's like, I just
don't give a ship, Like who's this

571
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,000
fucking guy? Get him out?
And it's maybe I just need to get

572
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:04,280
known better. I don't know,
but they just need better people, more

573
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,320
interesting, Yeah, players that are
engaging and funny. Yeah. I was

574
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,519
trying to hold out hope at the
beginning of the season that having a bunch

575
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,079
of newbies, like having a bunch
of not veteran players, would be a

576
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:21,280
lot of fun because we'd finally be
able to like pick some new people.

577
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,239
But god, it just every week, every week it has gone farther down

578
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,880
that drain, and it has proven
even more as to why they need to

579
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,039
have at least a handful of vet
Vets on the team or on the show,

580
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,760
because even with just that handful,
even though we know that at least

581
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,119
one or two of them are going
to go home immediately or very quickly because

582
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,320
all the new people are gonna try
and get them out, it always switches.

583
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,199
They are always able to keep some
vets until the end, and it

584
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,760
just makes the gameplay so much better. Yeah, yep, and politics more

585
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,239
fun to watch, makes the bullshit
more fun to watch. They yep.

586
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,280
It's even very bizarre that they didn't
like this. It's called battle for a

587
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,280
New Champion. Yeah, they should
have done a team's thing or something and

588
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,559
had like six new champions this season, you know what I mean. And

589
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,599
they said they're having one, not
even one man and one woman, like

590
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,000
all this for one new champion.
Yeah, it's we're all pretty sure that

591
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,159
next season is going to be the
final MTV season. Like it's a little

592
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,960
strange. Yeah, this whole thing
is weird. It's just like every decision

593
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,280
is like, what's why did you
make that decision? It's very odd.

594
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,360
So we're back at the house after
club night. The other Alliance has finally

595
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,840
kind of come to the realization,
Oh, this has been I did this

596
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,440
earlier, the whole James and Mariah
and from him telling her and this was

597
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:57,920
Jay freaking out. Oh so if
we're nominations, so yeah, this is

598
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,360
where Horassio comes in. It's like, yeah, I mean I deserve being

599
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,679
to be put down there, thanks
for voting me in, guys, okay,

600
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,360
and Jay comes in acting like the
big bad like I'm gonna I'm king

601
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:22,480
shit, this is my playground,
Like I got this. He looks so

602
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:25,079
silently smugg didn't. He just looks
so fucking smug, sitting there like a

603
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,960
little smack that off look off his
face. Hard to watch, hard to

604
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:39,039
watch. Yeah, Kylin does bring
up a very good point because Jay starts

605
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:42,239
it off kind of saying, you
know, we've only had my name and

606
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,079
Kylin's name thrown out here, and
Kylin goes, hold up, there aren't

607
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:50,920
just two guys who were in this, like, there are five of us

608
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,639
down here. Why are we the
only two names that y'all are willing to

609
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:57,159
throw out that? Like, there
are five five, not just us two,

610
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:04,039
Which makes for and it makes her
a very interesting not very interesting,

611
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:08,719
It makes very slightly more interesting nomination. They started off and the first few,

612
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:14,760
it's what like four immediately go for
Jay yep, and it's kind of

613
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,360
like, oh, maybe we'll actually
get some payoff this episode. Again,

614
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,679
MTV just fucking with us. I
don't buy this shit for a split second

615
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:28,280
anymore. I mean, I had
a glimmer of hope, and then I

616
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,639
saw Nourice's faces, like, well
that was bullshit. Then Nourse is up

617
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:40,880
and she is obviously very pained as
to what she has to do because it's

618
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:47,320
either she has to vote for her
boyfriend's best friend or she has to vote

619
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:53,039
for the head of her alliance,
and she ends up not doing either,

620
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,239
very brave and throwing it on a
manual. Yeah, very brave, terrace,

621
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:01,039
very brave and Jay, and Jay's
talking head said something like, oh,

622
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,519
Seed, Nurie is never gonna help
vote for me like I win,

623
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,320
or like it's like she didn't vote
for the other guy, like she just

624
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,719
she just threw it away. And
that's one of those things where like there's

625
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:17,719
the possibility that if Maurice had actually
voted for j then they would have had

626
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:24,480
five votes for him, and it
would have either gone five votes for right,

627
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:32,639
because there's only five other people five
for anyway, it could have actually

628
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:37,800
gone to him. Like yeah,
I didn't that math, but yeah,

629
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,559
she was that deciding factor. I
think there are what they're sixteen, yeah,

630
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:44,719
four groups of four. Yeah,
but then she did the weakest,

631
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,360
the weakest possible thing, yea,
right, yep, so there are four

632
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:57,599
votes in she votes for Emmanuel,
there are seven votes left. If she

633
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,760
had voted for UH for J that
it would have been five for J and

634
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:10,679
that would have potentially swung James and
Colleen back over to the J side,

635
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,840
because then they could have been like, oh well, I mean that's who's

636
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,280
going mm hmmm, like it had
it had some real potential. But she

637
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,440
fucked it all up. It did, and it's like it frustrates me that,

638
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:27,239
Yeah, her her choice was nothing. It sort of is like Nurie

639
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,559
A or B, like this is
your chance to shine. You can make

640
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,639
a decision, and her decision is
I'm not going to make a decision,

641
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,400
which is the same as siding with
JA. Like you know, then,

642
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:38,159
like I don't even know what I
just don't know. I just don't know

643
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:42,119
what nouris is doing. Stupid move
on her part, I think. Well,

644
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,559
so Stephanie in the chat room brings
up that Nourice had said earlier that

645
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:49,920
burning her vote would actually be a
vote against Kayland. Yeah that's what Yeah,

646
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,639
but the next that's always what burning
a vote is, unless you're burning

647
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:57,119
a vote on Leroy. Yeah,
so then just do it, right if

648
00:47:57,519 --> 00:48:00,920
if that's what it's doing just actually
ate it, actually say I am against

649
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,880
Kyland, I am with Jay and
instead it's like everybody knows it. It's

650
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,599
it's the weakest possible move. Like
when they say weak move, this is

651
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,400
what they mean. This is Maurice
not committing because she doesn't have to.

652
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,519
There's nothing on the line, so
she's just not gonna do it. But

653
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:20,239
it's weak. It's it's a week
as hell. It just is. Yeah.

654
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,199
I think if she had been further
at the end of the line of

655
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:25,719
people voting for Kyland, she would
have voted for Kyland. But because she

656
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,559
was going to be the first vote
for Kyland, that's why she didn't do

657
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:31,880
it. Yeah, well, Crime
River, you gotta do something in this

658
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:37,000
game. You gotta play this game. Well you look on your face there

659
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,960
for a minute, I was watching
my cat. Are you gonna watch this

660
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,480
episode after it's more important than us? No? No, never gonna watch

661
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,960
this episode. No, you're not
missing. But yeah, ultimately it ends

662
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:57,280
up being Kyland who gets voted in
because it's the same fucking people you get

663
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,679
voted in ever goddamn episode, which
of course is MTV, Like did they

664
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:12,039
not think of this? What's going
on? Yeah? Yeah, all right,

665
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,920
is this where I get to shine? This is this is Wolfy cat

666
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Man a perfect leading. That was
Wes. That was not him. Wait

667
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,960
do you have the do you have
the other one? Now it's a necklace.

668
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:37,360
There you go, so elimination.
Uh TJ says to be the best,

669
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,239
you have to be the best.
Let's bring out our champion, and

670
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,880
Brad runs out. This is supposed
to be bananas, right? Is everybody

671
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,159
on the same page here, wolf
You didn't? Yeah, I mean that's

672
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,599
that's what everybody has said, right, yeah. This is also this is

673
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:54,679
also where my TV just stop.
Okay, okay, so you didn't see

674
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:58,840
that. Okay, I think I
got that. I got the numbers of

675
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,880
I got his record, which is
he's been on twelve seasons, he has

676
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,039
gone to five finals and he's won
once. Yeah, and that was cutthroat

677
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:08,280
way back in the day. Yes, very excited to see Brad. I

678
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,880
love Brad. I'm always excited to
see Brad. Don't get me wrong.

679
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,880
Unbelieve big eyes. Oh man,
they were they were on display today.

680
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,119
Yes, but see, this is
the shit that I missed. And not

681
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,480
only that, I think it gets
more and more clear to me every all

682
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,599
the time that this was that he's
that he was flowing in at the last

683
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,000
second, because first of all,
he looks tired of shit. He looks

684
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:36,000
fucking torn up. Yeah, like
big like purple bags under his eyes and

685
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,599
stuff like. He just looks he
just looks like he's been through it,

686
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:43,599
probably because he's been traveling for twenty
hours straight. When he got there and

687
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:45,760
he said a few things, he
was like, uh, he said like,

688
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,639
oh, it's this is a good
elimination to do a little on the

689
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,880
smaller side, which makes me think
he's like not all beefed up and royed

690
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,800
it out. And he said something
about like, uh, endurance isn't He's

691
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,360
like, endurance is something I'm known
for. It's not something I'm really good

692
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,840
at anymore. But I'm lighter than
I usually am and I'm a good climber,

693
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,079
so I'll do okay with this one. But you see it, Like

694
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,880
the way he said was like I'm
not prepared to be here, but I'm

695
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,480
just gonna try my best sort of
That's what it seemed to be saying to

696
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:19,280
me. But did you even get
like the name of the thing or the

697
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,039
name of the No, I literally
did. That's all that I got o

698
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,280
get what the name of the elimination
was. I didn't get. I didn't

699
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,760
even realize there were towers in it
until I saw some clips on Instagram.

700
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,320
Okay, so there were towers on
it. Chatroom. You'll have to help

701
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,039
me out. I forget what the
name of this thing is called. But

702
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:38,719
basically, you start at the top
of this scrawl, yeah, something like

703
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,920
that. You start at the top
of this tower. There's like these little

704
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,880
shoots that you have to move to
the side to get down to the bottom.

705
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,079
You take like a big, like
a yoga exercise ball up to the

706
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:51,079
very top and then you drop it
down a shoot. You have to do

707
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:53,400
that ten times. You have to
stack these yoga balls in order from ten

708
00:51:53,480 --> 00:52:04,159
to one or whatever. So that's
the game, and they play it and

709
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,199
Brad loses, and that's the end. I don't know, not much to

710
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,320
say. Who does he pick to
go in? You didn't yeah, oh

711
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,639
yeah, yeah. Brad pulled the
thing out. He went against Kyland.

712
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,760
Brad pulled the hammer, went against
Kyland. They did this thing. Kyland

713
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,760
kind of beat the shit out of
him. I think, I think,

714
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,039
I think Brad had six or seven
balls and Kyle got the ten. Oh

715
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,480
so it like wasn't close stomped.
Yeah, Brad kind of got his his

716
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,199
ass kicked. Kyland was really really
fast. Brad's just old. Brad's my

717
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,159
age, you know, he's like
forty two or some shit, forty three.

718
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,239
He's just old. I don't think
he was prepared. And uh,

719
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,480
yeah, you're you're forty four.
Don't be trying to shave years off of

720
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,119
Brad's a year two younger the way
Brad's a year too younger. Yeah,

721
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,280
I think Brad. But still Brad's
in his forties. I mean he's got

722
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,800
to be. But yeah, so
I don't know if there's not much less

723
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,360
to say. Corey was talking,
was saying, how good Kyland is it

724
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,880
this game because there's like these slats
that you had to move out of the

725
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,960
way, and Kyland moved two at
a time instead of one at a time.

726
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:06,159
Corey was very concerned about this.
He's like, that's why I know

727
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,639
Kylin's gonna be a good player.
He figures out how to do these things

728
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:14,480
fast. Like okay, all right, whatever you say, Corey. But

729
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:22,920
yeah, it's kind of is Corey
the news Josey, I see him,

730
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,599
I can see the comparisons. Yeah, yeah, self important yea where he's

731
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:30,559
like, you have to be really
smart for this game, like me with

732
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:38,679
my agility. Yeah, this is
very swim yet, so I don't know

733
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,079
if I'm gonna have to have a
panic attack watching him swim. Yeah.

734
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:46,519
But they both they both say very
obvious things, but in a way like

735
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:51,679
like they think that they're profound,
you know, like Nelson, Yeah,

736
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,000
kind of like Nelson. Is that
too? Yeah, I think Nelson seems

737
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:59,119
to be a little bit more endearing. But yeah, yeah, Corey smug.

738
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,039
I hate smug miss Yeah, Jose
was smug. Yeah, Jay was

739
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:05,679
smug on the earlier this episode.
I hate smug Pee, Like it's gotta

740
00:54:05,679 --> 00:54:07,960
be the worst, the worst sort
of traits. I really hope that CT

741
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:13,559
pulls Jay's name or pulls it,
gets him down there. I really hope

742
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:17,599
that CT pulls the chaos mace or
just gets to choose regardless of whether there's

743
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:21,639
a chaos mace or not, because
he's bringing it in. I hope that

744
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,679
he so. Yeah, but I
hope that he gets the chaos mace and

745
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,000
calls Jay down when Jay thinks that
he's sitting pretty and then just beats the

746
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,559
ever living shit out of him.
Yeah, that's what I hope for next

747
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:38,400
episode, you're gonna earn his son. I do too, But let me

748
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,280
let me qualify that a little bit. If that's what happens the next episode,

749
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,239
I'll be fine with that, unless
they do it daily that ends up

750
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,039
not mattering because CT comes out with
the mace. Then I'm gonna be pissed

751
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,360
if we have to watch a shitty
daily that means nothing them like going against

752
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,280
these nominations, which will mean nothing, and then CT just gets to pick

753
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,719
somebody skip all that Car had to
do the draw, and she was the

754
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,920
last female mercenary, so I'm gonna
assume CT is going to too. But

755
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:13,239
again, since Zach is not here, I'm pretty sure they load up the

756
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,239
maces these last ones. Yeah,
we've seen the preview of CT holding the

757
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,599
base, so yeah, it's yeah, but he's he looks like he's walking

758
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,679
in with the mace, So I
feel like, yeah, I don't know,

759
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,079
but it would just seem weird that
they would do it for the men

760
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:31,000
and not for the women. Yet, but I wonder if it was Bananas.

761
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:34,280
Right, Let's say, let's say
Brad does not exist in this and

762
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:40,320
it's Bananas who would be the last
male vet. Would it be Bananas or

763
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,360
would it be you think it's still
be ct. I think you think Bananas

764
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,320
would would sign off on not being
the premiere flagship person. Stephanie brought up

765
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,239
the Bananas would have been earlier.
That's when they had to switch to two

766
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:59,480
girls in a row. Okay,
yeah, because there was a what was

767
00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:05,480
the episode that there was the episode
that Mariah was really worried that Bananas was

768
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:14,800
gonna come out. Who came out
instead? No, I thought it was

769
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,760
a guy because we've had Jordan.
We had Jordan and then oh we had

770
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,639
a real and it wasn't It might
have actually been Tori. You might be

771
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,880
right. I don't first time ever
if that happened. No, because I

772
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:29,400
think I did the fact, you
might actually be right because that might have

773
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,519
been when they when they switched it
so that it was two girls, because

774
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:39,840
we've had two girls back back twice. Yeah, I think it might have

775
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,599
been to It just seems like they've
been building, you know what I mean,

776
00:56:43,639 --> 00:56:45,280
They've they've started off kind of they
start off with Jordan, which is

777
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,840
a big splash, and then they
started and then they went small down with

778
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:58,519
Cass small to big guys and then
went to Devon and Tory and yeah,

779
00:56:58,519 --> 00:57:02,159
I mean, I guess we could
Kara and then Brad and I love Brad.

780
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:06,440
I love Brad. Yeah, they
would not have brought Brad out Aftercara.

781
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:13,320
If it had been Jordan for the
men Jordan, Devon, Johnny Durrell

782
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,400
CT, then it would have been
three really heavy hitters, and Devon and

783
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,320
Darrell who are still heavy hitters but
not on the same level. I could

784
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:28,320
see that. Yeah, it would
have made a lot more sense with all

785
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:34,079
of the Mariah and James drama.
Yeah, it just seems like if Bananas

786
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:36,679
would want to be the headliner,
I would. I would think Bananas would

787
00:57:36,679 --> 00:57:39,800
want that, and he's sort of
too, But it could also be I

788
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,960
don't know. I feel like people
may want to see CT just beat the

789
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,119
other living shit out of people a
little bit more than Bananas would because it's

790
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:51,119
always been ship at eliminations. Yeah, and I'm not saying what fans would

791
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:52,599
like. I'm just saying what Bananas
would sort of tolerate. It just seems

792
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:57,679
like Bananas wouldn't sign up if he
wasn't the headliner, but maybe maybe you

793
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:05,159
would. Yeah, that's true too. I guess anyway. Yeah, Kylin

794
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:08,800
winz also could have been scheduling.
Yeah, maybe that's his schedule would have

795
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:14,719
fit. Yeah, that's true too. Yep. Well, Coylin wins,

796
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:19,480
nobody goes home. Brad does not
win. He does say twice two times

797
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,480
that he loves this game with every
fiber of his being. That's what we

798
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:25,840
get when MTV has got a pad
out for an hour and a half episodes.

799
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,719
You get to get people saying the
same ship, the same exact sentences

800
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:32,199
over and over again. Are you
sure it wasn't in the exact same clip.

801
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,960
Yeah, because one time he said
it in the arena and then the

802
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,199
other time was in a confessional.
It's like, yeah, we've heard it,

803
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,639
like this is we've heard this.
They did give Brad a chance to

804
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:46,519
like talk to the players, like
say something heartfelt and inspirational. He didn't

805
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,239
do a very good job at that. I don't remember what he said,

806
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,119
don't get married. I feel like
they all have gotten a chance to do

807
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:57,199
that. We just haven't seen it
for all of them. Yeah, and

808
00:58:57,239 --> 00:58:59,440
I know Brad is not well loved. I don't think a lot of people

809
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,519
knew who he was. And he
walked into the arena like he felt a

810
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:10,440
little he felt a little out of
place. Yeah, I mean quite honestly.

811
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,119
I think the thing that people know
the most about him recently is that

812
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,679
he was married to another Challenger and
that he fucked Brittany on the very first

813
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:23,920
episode and had this Challenge relationship for
the next like two or three seasons that

814
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:29,000
then broke up on the season.
Yep. He's a very interesting guy that

815
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:35,480
Brad. I love Brad. Wasn't
wasn't on a season between seasons. It

816
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,800
was kind of, honestly, like
it was on a reunion or something that

817
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:44,199
we saw Brittany come on and it
was weird. There was there was the

818
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:51,280
episode where she had already gone home
and he called her to kind of like,

819
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:52,920
well, what's going on? I
hear that you and your ex er

820
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:59,159
because they were in the Redemption house
and I think it was was it Devin,

821
01:00:00,159 --> 01:00:07,000
that wasn't it? It happened between
because she flew to Chicago, hung

822
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,159
out with him and his boys and
his family, and then he drove her

823
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:13,400
to the airport. Oh that's right
at the airport as she was got on

824
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,239
the plane home and they were together
that weekend. Because of that Chicago event,

825
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,119
Wolfe that me and you almost went
to yep, and then she brings

826
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,159
it up on the reunion the uh
he fucked her brains out for like four

827
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:29,360
days and then dropped said in Illinois, yeah, which yeah, we live

828
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,400
Yay. We could have been there
for part of that, Wolfe could have

829
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,599
we could have seen it. You
want a pizza beat? Oh god,

830
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,679
that's right. One of the best
lines that has ever come out of this

831
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,440
show was because of Brad and Brittany
Well and now it's a necklace. Brad

832
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:51,320
has made an impact on this show. Brad has beat ct and landing in

833
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,119
eliminations. Brad's Brad's a badass.
I love Brad. Not the best performance

834
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:59,320
tonight, but I will always tick
up for Brad. Yeah, we'll put

835
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:05,199
me on your list. You're on
my list. He's so weird, it's

836
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:07,960
great. I love that guy.
Oh god, he's such a nutcase.

837
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:15,760
And those eyes, those oh yeah
eyes, just beautiful. He could give

838
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:23,440
you give Ramota Singer a run for
her money. She is a rather disgraced

839
01:01:23,519 --> 01:01:30,239
because she's most definitely racist. She's
an old real housewife of New York who

840
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,760
has the same type of eyes.
They bug the fuck out when she gets

841
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,719
like when she gets aggravated or when
things go wrong, her eyes are just

842
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:45,400
fucking huge. Love it. Love
those big guest Love Brandon yep Hey.

843
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,960
Everybody head of a challenge pot dot
com joined the Facebook group. You can

844
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:52,599
also join a Patreon. What do
people get when they join Patreon? Tim?

845
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:57,400
Well, what it's the world?
The world? It must not be

846
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,280
the world. We've had lots of
people dropping off of the Patreon. Well,

847
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:01,840
listen, I don't blame you guys
for no season is shit, and

848
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,639
I don't blame them. I don't
either. I mean, listen, nobody's

849
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,800
watching this season. Nobody's certainly listening
to us talk about this season. That

850
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,679
nobody's watching, we might be more
entertaining this season. Oh, I certainly

851
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,599
hope so so. Thank you to
the patrons that have stuck around. But

852
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:19,920
for the five bucks a month,
you get pre shows, after shows,

853
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,880
years and years with the content.
You can listen to our ex wives talk

854
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,880
with us about the challenge. Now, Carl, and you're the replacement.

855
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,320
We don't, we're not married anymore. Feeling introduced the replacement. You're a

856
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,880
token woman. That's how it works. Thanks. Uh, you get access

857
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,559
to the discord where I post weird
YouTube videos about the Challengers. Sometimes it's

858
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:44,079
always fun to watch. And we
also say your name, So thank you

859
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:46,079
to Alvin, Caroline, Christopher,
Cindy, Emily, Greg, Jamie,

860
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:52,840
Julie Martez, Maverick. I think
Maverick's new. Yeah, Patty rolled and

861
01:02:52,920 --> 01:03:00,920
Ryan, Sarah, Sarah, Scott, Seth Shaknstan. Thanks guys, we

862
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,960
had somebody, we had somebody drop
off and Maverick Joint. Yeah, awesome,

863
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,760
Thank you guys, We really appreciate
it. Brian in the chat room

864
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,880
says that he hasn't watched since season
thirty seven and he just tunes into us,

865
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,239
which there was definitely before I joined
the pod. There were definitely a

866
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,440
season. There was definitely a season
or two that I did that same shit

867
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:23,000
on because I just couldn't deal with
the bullshit of the season. It's very

868
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,719
nice if people do that, it's
very nice. Yeah, and then Jamie

869
01:03:25,719 --> 01:03:29,679
says that you guys are basically the
only reason I'm still watching this show.

870
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,440
Oh well, you you guys are
certainly the only reason I'm watching this show.

871
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:40,119
Yeah, there's no question about that, no question. Yeah, oh

872
01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:45,719
we sure do. None of us
are named by name, so don't be

873
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,519
excited guys, I say, do
I need to put on the big girl

874
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:52,280
pants? Well, you should always
have pants on. I'm at home,

875
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:57,800
just saying you can only see from
like mid chest up, so to say,

876
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,000
if you're not, that's going to
be a Patreon. We got Andrew

877
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:10,440
KA ninety three titled Brutal Honesty,
which makes makes me really worried about what

878
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,079
I'm about to read flucker real quick, but it's really positive, So thank

879
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:18,559
you to Andrew K ninety three.
It says I've been listening to for three

880
01:04:18,599 --> 01:04:21,199
or four seasons now of your podcast. It is so entertaining. I'm such

881
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:25,280
a huge fan of the brutal honesty
that you all bring to your reviews,

882
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,960
tearing apart how bad some of these
challenges are, what bad decisions are being

883
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,760
made by challenges and alliances, and
just hearing your general opinions on some of

884
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,039
the egotistical maniacs that are playing or
have played this game. I love the

885
01:04:36,039 --> 01:04:40,920
throwbacks to all challenges and challengers as
well. I've been watching on and off

886
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,880
since Fresh Meat too and absolutely love
the challenge. Keep posting and I'll keep

887
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,840
listening. Thanks Andrew from Toronto,
Ontario. Thanks Andrew, Thanks Andrew very

888
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:55,679
nice. I appreciate that people are
okay with me with the shit the wheels

889
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,079
out. You know, I'm over
giving a shit. I'll talk about this

890
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,760
season, but I hope there's somebody
out there thinking this season does suck.

891
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,679
Listening to them except that it sucks
makes it a little better. I mean,

892
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:10,480
it seems to be more than just
someone. There seems to be the

893
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:14,400
majority of people. Yes, most
people are yes full of hate for this

894
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:20,480
season. Ooo, e Zach,
we you guys social media? Oh thank

895
01:05:20,519 --> 01:05:27,960
you. I guess that's it.
During the pre show, before we even

896
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,800
started recording, Carland's like, I
bet tonight it's gonna go pretty quick.

897
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,800
Yeah, I did say that we're
at an hour five. Well, okay,

898
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,039
so I did say that I bet
that tonight's going to either that Tonight's

899
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:42,960
gonna go really quick, and then
I followed it up with or we're gonna

900
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,320
spend fucking forever bitching about how bad
this episode was. That's true. Well,

901
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,639
this is fourth in a row that
nobody goes home bullshit. Yes,

902
01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:54,840
that's some fucking bullshit. Somebody better
go home next week and we better have

903
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:59,599
some fucking purges coming up. Save
a CT say yeah, there better be

904
01:05:59,599 --> 01:06:02,519
some Like I'm not talking like one
or two people, like they need to

905
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:09,880
send home five Yeah, sixteen fucking
people, yep, sixteen Yep. I'd

906
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,639
be fine if the next episode was
just sort of like TJ putting them on

907
01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:16,079
the start line, like run two
miles. The last seven people are just

908
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:19,480
out of the game. Yeah,
but then I watch the Souse CT.

909
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,400
It's gonna have to be the episode
after that. That'd be fine, well

910
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,199
probably, I mean, if the
way things go then they were still gonna

911
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:31,199
have fucking sixteen people. Yeah,
Goose Forces. What if CT comes out

912
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:34,920
forty pounds overweight? Man, fuck
that shit. He came out forty pounds

913
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,639
over weight when he came back on
his Dad Bod season and still won that

914
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:42,719
ship. Yeah, dad, but
Dad dad Bod CT was still a monster.

915
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,559
So yeah, I fucking love Dad
Bods, especially when he's not competing

916
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:48,400
in daily challenges and living in the
house and all you gotta do is show

917
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:54,000
up, wreck shit and leave.
Oh that's perfect, yeah, CT.

918
01:06:54,199 --> 01:06:57,679
The most impressive moment for CT for
me was actually one of the Champs Versus

919
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,440
seasons. I don't remember which one
was, but it was probab like at

920
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,960
his fattest, And there was a
scene where he just sort of like effortlessly

921
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,880
put himself up on these like big
mats and like balanced across all of them,

922
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,639
looking at like a graceful gazelle.
And he's like sixty pounds overweight.

923
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:15,480
He's like this enormous, huge,
fucking fatness of a man, just like

924
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,440
bouncing delicately on this thing. It
was like, holy shit, look at

925
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,880
that guy. Yeah, he's he's
fully capable at any size. That's CT.

926
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:28,000
Yeah, CET. Like we have
Jose over there saying that that his

927
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,360
his skill is his agility. No, no, no, you don't.

928
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,719
If your skill is actually your agility, you don't spot off about it.

929
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,039
Yeah, you act like CT,
who can just go through and do this

930
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:45,000
shit. And his skill is actually
his agility and his puzzle skills and his

931
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,159
ability to just fucking house anybody in
an eating competition and all of the physical

932
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:53,519
competition. Like, there's a reason
why CT is a champ. He has

933
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:57,119
no weaknesses. Yeah, it took
him, don't get me wrong, it

934
01:07:57,159 --> 01:08:00,840
took him many years to get there. Yeah, but once he kind of

935
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:06,119
calmed his ass down seats, he's
biggest enemy was himself percent. Yeah,

936
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:09,800
since he's been focusing on that on
other people. He just wins every time.

937
01:08:10,239 --> 01:08:14,320
Yeah, it's crazy. Brian wants
to know, does this season make

938
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,439
you miss Josh or not quite that
bad? No, no season will ever

939
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,000
be that bad. No. Still
very glad Josh is not on this season.

940
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:27,119
Y'all. Don't miss me. I
do not know. No, we

941
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:31,520
don't Josh. Not a bit,
not a bit, all right, I

942
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:36,640
guess for this episode of Challenge has
been big sweet Team carl and san Diego

943
01:08:39,159 --> 01:08:56,159
and as Brad said, Charlie
