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Welcome to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosen
House along with you this weekend as we

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join you from Miami, Florida.
Guardians just getting start on a lengthy road

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swing that we'll see them play two
more times in Miami Saturday night and Sunday

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afternoon, and then twice in Cincinnati
Tuesday and Wednesday nights, and finished the

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road swing in Toronto next weekend.
So a lot of baseball away from home

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for Cleveland as they try and maintain
their lead in the American League's Central Division.

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Good show lined up for you today, as in just a little bit,

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we will hear from Guardian centerfielder Tyler
Freeman as well as Daniel Schneman,

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who's just up from the minor leagues
and has made quite an impression in his

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first week in the big leagues.
And we'll also hear from Brian Sweeney,

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the former Guardians bullpen coach who is
now the pitching coach for Kansas City,

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but still has many fond memories of
his time five years in Cleveland working as

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a coach for the Guardians. We'll
also have another addition of at the Ballpark

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with Bobby d But first I'll look
back at the weekend review Monday and off

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day for The Guardian and that set
the stage for a big showdown series with

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al Central Division rival Kansas City.
The two teams at the top of the

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American League Central with two of the
best records in all of baseball, and

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it started on Tuesday night, not
in a good way for the Guardians early

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on, as the Royals power bats
were out early. Hunter Renfro and Bobby

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Witt Junior each homered in the third
inning, and Wit did it again in

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the fourth, and just like that, it was five to nothing Kansas City

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in the series opener. So a
big mountain to climb for the Guardians to

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get back in it, and they
did, starting in the bottom of the

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fourth with a lead off double from
Stephen Kwan and then Jose Ramirez stepped in

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the three to two to Ramirez and
it swung on tap left side on through

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base it left field. Ramirez comes
through with a slapped single of left that

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plates Kwan and the Guardians are on
the board. It's now Kansas City five,

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Cleveland one. And that right there
in a nuts y'all for Ramirez,

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just looking to get the run in. Following Ramirez to the plate, it

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was Josh Naylor. Here it comes, swung on and drilled high and deep

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left center. The way back there
head it's Pleecher bound, Paul Ron,

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Josh Naylor and the Guardians are creeping
closer. It's now Kansas City five,

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Cleveland three, and they are doing
it against a pitcher who just doesn't give

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up runs in twenty twenty four in
SETH logo. But they've gotten to him

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here in the fourth inning for three
runs, including home run number sixteen for

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Josh Naylor, moving him into a
tie for team high honors with Jose Ramirez.

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It's date five to three until the
seventh. That's when the Guardians went

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back to work. Will Brennan singled
that brought Tyler Freeman to the plate.

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Now the old one, swung on, hit high, hit deep to left

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center. This ball go. How
about that? Tyler Freeman with his fifth

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home run, a two run blast
to the bleachers and left center and Cleveland

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and one point down five to the
best pitcher in the American League has tied

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this game at five, and what
a celebration and welcoming committee on that third

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base dugout for Tyler Freeman. Seth
Lugo's night is done. The Guardian's kept

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it going in the seventh inning with
a single by Daniel Schneman and then back

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to back walks to Ramirez. A
Nailer brought David Fry to the plate.

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Serpah's ready here it comes one on
a Tampa back up to the middle.

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Bobby with junior gloves, runs to
second steps throws the ball away to first.

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Bat'll score two, Kwan to score, Ramires to score? How about

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that? And also coming home is
Naylor? Are they going to say all

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three get to score? The short
stop? Bobby went on that Chopper charged

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it at short, ran a second, but he did not beat Nailer evidently,

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and so he thought I better throw
to make sure, and then he

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threw it away to first and the
Guardians are now back on top eight to

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five. Hey, there was another
dominant day for the Guardian's bullpen, as

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Kate Smith and Scott Barlow shut down
the KC bats before they turned it over

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to Emmanuel class A in the ninth
fold count Royals again down to their last

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strike Garcia at second May two.
Down in the ninth eight to five,

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Cleveland now the payoff pitch, a
swimming and the best Bowl game front door

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Cutter got him and the Guardians keep
rolling, only this time against one of

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the best teams in baseball. Cleveland
spotted Kansas City five runs and roarback to

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win Game one in this series eight
to five, and after the game,

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Guardians manager Stephen Vote was asked once
again about his team's ability to come back

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late in games. I think it's
just our belief, right, you have

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to believe that. If you don't
truly believe that we have a chance to

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come back, every time you get
down, you're going to say here we

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go again and just get buried deeper
and deeper. But our guys truly believe

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were one rally, one hit away
from starting a rally to come back,

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and we don't quit. These guys
don't quit. And it's just a testament

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to who they are. Uh That's
who they've always been, and it's just

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that belief that we're going to come
back. Obviously, first three dates kind

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of goes through the line about all
the game what how do you feel about

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that? They're able to say with
that game, but it doesn't work.

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I think you just have to believe. I mean, at the end of

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the day, baseball, if a
pitcher is executing, you're gonna have a

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hard time scorn runs. And Lugo
did that, you know, for the

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majority of the night. You know, the quantity bangs of double and we

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get something going. Posey comes through
Naylor with the big swing and then Free

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with the the nightcap, and it
just stick stick with the plan because eventually,

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hopefully the picture makes a mistake,
and if you leave your plan,

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you're not gonna be ready for the
mistake. So our hitting group works really

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hard on coming up with plans for
these guys, and they've bought in.

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They've seen the success. You know, I mustle on that play spot.

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Yeah, I mean, if Naylor
doesn't beat him the second, that's an

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easy inning ending fielder's choice and we're
probably still playing. You know, but

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he he got a really good secondary. Sandy told him beat the throat a

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second, and he got a really
good throat or a really good secondary and

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ran hard and beat him a second
and caused chaos and a three run three

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run play another near perfect doubt makes
special. First of all, they're really

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good and nasty. They're prepared.
Pg's got him super prepared coming out of

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that bullpen. They're ready for any
role at any time. Left, right,

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doesn't matter. And they just again
I keep going back to belief.

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They believe they're going to go in, throw zero and come out. And

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this group has gotten to the point
where when they don't do that, it's

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kind of like what just happened.
And that's the mark of just a really

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good bullpen. And these guys feed
off each other, they have each other's

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backs, and it's just a really
really talented, special group out there that

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you guys have. Where is where
or how does a start starts in the

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clubhouse? You know, when when
a group of players get together, there's

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talent and there's ability, but then
there's also the belief that we can actually

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do it. They own it and
run with it. And it starts with

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the leadership in that room, and
it starts with the young guys believing that

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they belong and knowing that they belong
in the big leagues. And it's it's

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a testament to the twenty six guys
in that room that proved to be the

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high point of the week, as
after a Wednesday rain out, the Guardians

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lost the series finale to Kansas City. A late run for the Royals gave

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them a four to three win,
and a very similar scenario played out Friday

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night in Miami is The Marlins scored
a run in the eighth thending to snap

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a two all tie, and it
was Miami three the Guardians two. On

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Friday night in Miami, They'll play
two more times. The Guardians in Marlins

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will seven forty on Saturday night one
on Sunday afternoon. Stay with us when

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we come back. We'll hear from
Tyler Freeman and Daniel Schneeman. That's next

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okay. Jim Rows announced back with
you on Guardians Weekly as we join you

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from Miami where the Guardians are taking
on the Marlins. This weekend just the

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start of a three city road swing
for the Guardians who don't returned home until

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June the eighteenth. That's when their
next homestand starts against the Seattle Mariners,

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and the Guardians will be home to
face the Mariners and then the Toronto Blue

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Jays on their next homestand and again
it does not begin for a while Tuesday

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night, June the eighteenth. A
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whenever you like in podcast form wherever
you download your favorite podcasts. Tyler Freeman

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has had a real nice start to
season. He's played very well in center

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field, a position he had never
played in a major League game until this

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season, and he has also had
some big hits at the plate, including

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a huge two run home run in
Tuesday's comeback in over Kansas City. It

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came in the seventh inning off of
Royal starter Seth Lugo, who had been

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one of baseball's best so far this
season. We caught up with Tyler the

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following day and he talked about his
approach in facing Lugo that extra time in

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the seventh inning after he had been
retired his first two at bats, and

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what he learned earlier in the game. Sticking to our plan. I think

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that's our biggest thing, and that's
why we ended up winning that game.

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You know, he gave it to
us first few innings he threw the first

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time, threw the lineup, and
I think the second time we stuck with

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our plan. That was our biggest
thing, and we didn't change it.

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I think we would have foul if
we changed our plan a little bit,

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but just because the results in show
in the beginning didn't mean we have to

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like go away from that. And
I think that's exactly what we made sure

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we stuck with our plan. And
you say we and then obviously you had

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the good success in that last at
bat against him. What did you see

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early on that said, you know
what, maybe later on, if I

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get a certain pitch, I might
have success. Yeah, you know,

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I was looking in one location and
he wasn't going there in the beginning,

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and but I stuck with it.
I was like, I'm gonna still look

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in the same spot whether whether he
does it or not. At some point

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he's gonna go there. And I
did some damage with it. You were

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around long enough last year to know
that that come from behind winds are not

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easy and they don't happen all the
time, but for this team they seem

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to. Why is that you're thinking
and when did that start for this club?

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I kind of I said it yesterday. I think the last game of

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the year last year in Detroit,
it just kind of sparked everyone. We

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didn't want to have that feeling again, and so going to the offseason,

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I think that's where it started.
Guys with their training or however, to

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get better help this team win.
I think that's what we did. We

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took it to heart and coming in
spring training, we were gonna make sure

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it wasn't gonna happen again. So
our mentality is if we're behind, who

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cares, We're gonna We're gonna bow
to the end. But Tyler, you

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had that stretch in the leadof spot, and it seems like that's coincided with

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a good stretch of the plate of
consistency. Do those two go together or

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did you see it coming anyway?
Oh, you know, just being patient

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with the results sign it's been it's
been a frustrating year so far. But

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I think when when they did move
me to the leadoff spot just kind of

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like took my mind off that a
little bit. I just stayed aggressive,

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and I think the results just started
to show. Coincidentally, is there a

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different approach at all when when you
hit leadoff, No, just staying aggressive,

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like I said before, I just
think coincidentally, balls are starting to

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fall now, and just just trying
to keep that going. And you have

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the Royals here for a series,
and when you look at where your teams

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are in the standings from the enjoyment
standpoint of what you like to play for.

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Is this what it's all about these
kind of series? Absolutely, and

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Austin Hedges reiterates at every single series
that we play, every series is a

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playoff series, and if we take
our minds off of that, that's when

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we start to fumble. So we
play every games as if it's a new

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game and try to win each series. Nice going last night a big part

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of it. Thanks, thank you. That's Tyler Freeman. He's had a

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lot of big base hits for the
Guardians so far and has played tremendous defense

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in center field as well. Well. Freeman not that long in the major

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leagues, and same holds true to
a much greater extent for Daniel Schneman.

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He was called up to the big
leagues on Sunday last Sunday, and he

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made his major league debut against the
Nationals. First pitch he saw, you

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just heard the highlight, Big Bass
hit a double for him. So he

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got that out of the way,
and he's done nothing but hit since in

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the games that he has played this
week. We had a chance to talk

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to him on Tuesday about that first
day in the major leagues, a day

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that he'll never forget. Well,
the biggest thing is just having all my

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family here. That was super specials
making all the calls, letting know that

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I was getting called up, and
then one of the best memories I had

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was just after the game, just
spending some time with family and taking some

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pictures is really special. And on
the field, you get something positive done

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right away. For some players it
doesn't always work out that way, but

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for you, you're standing on second
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that first hit out of the way, or is it something more than that.

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I mean, I'm sure if I
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feeling a little more stress than I
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taking the same approach I would have
been any other bad and I'm glad it

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worked out definitely. Were you able
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soak it in or are you so
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that you can't really do that?
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to focus. I didn't I didn't
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to kind of maybe affect my performance
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really just trying to focus on the
cues that I tell myself that, you

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know, that helped me have success, and so, I mean I definitely

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had some nerves, and I definitely
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but I was really just trying to
focus on those things. You had a

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good spring and you had a great
start to your season at Triple A.

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Difficult to maintain that good positive outlook
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instead of thinking about where maybe you
could be. I really was just I

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have a lot of buddies down there
on that team, a lot of good

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relationships. I was enjoying it down
there. I mean, I just love

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playing the game. Obviously, my
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But I was really just trying to
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and just stick to the you know, the process that that was going to

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give me success and give me a
chance to come up here. But I

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mean, I enjoyed it down there, and I'm just trying to, you

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know, soak in every minute up
here as well. The Schneemann family is

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here for the week the next couple
of home games here. For The Guardian

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said, how many others are going
to be in town pulling for you?

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The next couple of days. I
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to me an account, but it
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some time with them after the game
and and I'm glad. I feel a

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ton of support from all them,
so I'm gonna enjoy it. Congratulations on

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the call up, Thanks love for
coming back. Thank you. That is

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utility man Daniel Schneeman, who so
far he has played second base, shortstop,

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and center field as well as pinch
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It's been a fun first week in
the major exports name and it took him

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a while to get here, but
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he seems ready to go and has
been a steady contributor since getting the call.

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Stay with us well, I'm more
to come, as Guardians Weekly continues

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after this time up. Welcome back
to Guardians Weekly. Jim Rosenhouse along with

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you from Miami, where the Guardians
are taking on the Marlins this weekend at

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Lone Depot Park. The Marlins a
winter on Friday night three to two,

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with two games to go Saturday night
and Sunday afternoon. Earlier this week,

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the Guardians hosted Kansas City at Progressive
Field, and that meant a return to

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Cleveland for Royal's pitching coach Brian Sween, who spent five years as a Guardian's

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bullpen coach and during that time developed
some great friendships. As his role as

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a first responder a volunteer fireman during
the off season back home for him in

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upstate New York, it led to
some great opportunities to mix with first responders

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in the Cleveland area, so he
had a chance to renew some of those

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friendships when he came to town earlier
this week, and when we caught up

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with him, he talked about his
second season as pitching coach for Kansas City

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with a lot of good things happening
for that pitching staff, and he says

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a big reason why he's had success
in case so far is because of the

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things that he learned during his time
in Cleveland from the coaching staff in front

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office. Here. I learned a
ton here. You've heard me say before.

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The people around me are great baseball
people and really smart. And I

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was able to grow as a coach
and as a person while I was here

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and build a philosophy, built something
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And then when when I come to
Kansas City, it's not it becomes the

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Kansas City way, right, and
you know, and nothing not not the

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Cleveland way. Right. We're trying
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direction. But it's really just the
journey that I took, uh and I

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owe a lot to to my time
here because I wouldn't be able to have

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done it without it. And some
dramatic improvements both especially starting rotation wise for

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your team. Is it mainly just
different talent or are there some things in

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place that that past pictures who are
still with the organization and still on the

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big club doing better because of some
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I think it's it's it's a whole
the whole mixture of things. A

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wise old pitching coach once told me, it's guy Carl Willis, I don't

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know if you know him or not, and say, you know, you

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know what makes a good pitching coach
good pictures? Right, So he would

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he would always joke around in that
way. Really, really what it comes

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down to, and you know is
you know, you create the environment for

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these guys to succeed. You know, you know you have the proper communication

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and trust and then you know,
you deliver the information you know that's readily

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available to us now and you teach
right. And if we're able to do

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those things on a daily basis with
the guys that are here that we're here

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for a while in Kansas City,
or the guys that are new, I

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think we're going in a good direction
now. When you bring in new pitchers

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like Michael Waka and Seth Lugo,
guys that have been through the grind,

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been professionals a long time, they
can teach the pitching staff a whole bunch

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of different things. You know,
we've got Will Smith and Chris Stratton in

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a bullpen. They create an environment
for success, and it's it's really fun

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to watch the culture. You know, during the games, when a starter

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comes out of the game, they
all gather in the middle of the dugout

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and talk about the outing. You
know, that's that's what you want from

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from a group of starters that are
competing not only against the opposing team,

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but you know, a healthy competition
amongst one another. They're there if one

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guy falls down just for an other
to pick them up. And I couldn't

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be a more proud coach when I
see something like that night and day from

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a year ago. I wouldn't say
night and day. Just growing, you

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know, just growth, you know, there there were we had some good

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pictures last year that just needed some
some growth opportunities and you know, and

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then bringing in bringing in some new
new guys. Now we have a well

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rounded staff. Now. It's nothing's
ever perfect, right, We're we're always

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trying to improve, but it's it's
definitely, you know, a better start

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than last year, you know,
and to be able to go toe to

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toe with with Cleveland that's in first
place is really fun. Royal's pitching coach

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Brian Sweeney joining us with Cleveland for
five seasons and you made some great relationships

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here off the field. We've talked
to you in the past about in the

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off season back home and upstate New
York. You're a volunteer firefighter and you

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brought some of that here to Cleveland
in terms of relationships. So when you

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come back here, I know earlier
today you had an opportunity to visit with

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some folks. How much do you
bring that here to Cleveland and still remain

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in touch with those who serve our
community? Oh, I mean, I

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have a heart for first responders as
my you know, my dad was a

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firefighter for a long time in Yonkers, New York. And then you know,

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starting Ready to Respond here with the
organization's blessed and you know, to

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honor first responders, you know ems, police dispatchers and firefighters. Is ah.

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You know, it was an honor
to do something like that because when

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people call nine to one one,
they show up right, they they're ready

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to respond. Now, we brought
that over to Kansas City as well,

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where we have answering the Call is
the is the name of a you know,

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the program that we have there and
it's very similar to to what Ready

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to Respond is. And making connections
with the first responders in the area here

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in Cleveland and now in Kansas City
is really special to me because they're just

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a great group of people. Had
the chance to go see Andy, Uh,

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one of my friends in the fire
department over here at Engine two right

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next to the stadium. Uh,
you know, walked in, had a

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hamburger with the guys. You know, we're just you know, you know,

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talking through things, talking baseball,
and you know Andy's torn now you're

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right, he's a Cleveland fan and
and but we're friends. So it's,

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uh, he's like, he says, it's a win win for him,

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right, Cleveland wins, he's happy, Kansas City wins. You know,

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he's sort of happy. So it's
it's one of one of those kind of

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things. But it was really good
to reconnect with them and just to let

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the first responders in the area know
that we care. What they do in

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the community matters. And back in
the day, the best reliever in baseball

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was the Firemen of the Year award. And did ever strike you as ironic

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that here you are here when during
your time here you're the bullpen coach and

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trying to help them do the best
job they can. Yeah, I get

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what a connection. Interesting connection there. You know, it's you know,

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it's it's cool to think of those
guys as firemen, but you know,

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those real first responders, they're rock
stars. They're rock stars and saints at

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the same time. You know what
they do and what they have to deal

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with on a daily basis. We're
lucky to have them. And so this

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is obviously a time consuming, full
time job. What keeps you going in

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the off season to keep wanting to
do that back in your hometown? I

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live in a really great community.
I love where I live. You know,

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my wife is from the area,
and you know, I was just

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you know, I wanted to do
something in the community while I was home.

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You know, there's still baseball going
on for me, right there's there's

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plenty of stuff to be done on
zoom calls and computer work. But I

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really felt like I wanted to be
a part of the community. And you

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know, when I drove by the
station one day taking my daughter to school,

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that's when the light bulb went off. I said, that's it.

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I said, that's let me.
Let me give this a shot. Uh.

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So, you know, being being
able to you know, to answer

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the call when when the pager goes
off as a volunteer, it means a

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lot to me, you know,
and you know, you know, it's

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a it's a huge responsibility in in
a neighborhood and there they need, you

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know, volunteer. There's not too
many volunteers, uh, you know going

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around. You know, we're always
looking for for good people and that we

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can turn into good firefighter. So
uh, you know, it's an honor

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to do that job. And you
know, and and it's out of respect

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for my father who taught me all
of those values. It's great stuff and

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much appreciated, whether it's back home
upstate New York, here in Cleveland and

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now in Kansas City. And Brian, always great to see you. Thanks

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a lot for coming back, Thanks
for having me. That's Brian Sweetey,

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the former Guardian's bullpen coach, now
a fine pitching coach for the Kansas City

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Royals. Stay with us for a
lot of our final segment coming your way

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Weekly. Our final segment coming your
way, and it's another edition of At

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the Ballpark with Guardians. Senior Vice
President Bob d. Bassio is guest this

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week, former Cleveland pitcher Charlie Naggin. The perfectly manicured field, the unmistakable

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aroma of a ballpark hot dog,
and the electricity celebrating another victory. This

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is at the Ballpark with Bobby de
Thank you, Hammy. Welcome to at

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the Ballpark, where we hope you
enjoy our conversations with those involved in the

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great game of baseball. Those who
may be behind the scenes are the colorful

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personalities who have provided so many exciting
moments and memories. Today we are joined

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by one of the winningest pitchers in
franchise history, a first round draft pick,

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a member of Team USA and the
Guardians Hall of Fame, mister Charlie

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Naggy. Thank you, Chuck for
being with us. Catch us up on

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the family these days. The family's
good. Kids are out of the house.

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Oldest twenty five living in San Francisco, and our youngest is she's a

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junior at Baylor University. Empty nesters. Unbelievable. We have to believe.

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Consistency is what you are most proud
of. In your thirteen year career,

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wearing that Cleveland uniform, you make
your major league debut in nineteen ninety,

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you become a seventeen game winner in
ninety two, and all start tossing two

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hundred and fifty innings. That's a
pretty cool way to start your career.

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It was. It was a rapid
minor league career. Got drafted boom the

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Olympics Kinston, North Carolina, and
then the following year Canton and getting called

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up to the big leagues. And
it was just a great moment. And

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it wasn't that easy starting your career
in college, right You went to Cornell,

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you went there to play football and
baseball, and then there was an

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issue. Then you move on to
the University of Connecticut. Tell us a

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little bit about that, so kids
out there understand that everybody has obstacles as

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they're trying to reach their dream.
Yeah, I mean I was enamored with

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Cornell. I went there and it
just didn't work out for me, whether

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I just wasn't ready for it or
what not. But still I went home

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and still kept in contact with coach
Andy Bailock at the University Connecticut. He

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was recruiting me also, and we
made it work. I had to do

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some summer schools before I went there, and things went well, and I

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had two great years there at the
University of Connecticut. A lot of friends,

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played with a lot of great players, had a really good time,

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and then inevitably got drafted that year
in nineteen eighty eight. Other than the

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nineteen ninety three season in which you
suffered an injury, you only had nine

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starts that year. You rebound and
enjoy a streak where you post double digit

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wins in eight of the next nine
straight seasons. Again consistency. You start

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the last game at Cleveland Stadium ever
coming off an injury, but then you

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don't miss a start again until sometime
after eleven starts in the year two thousand.

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That's a remarkable streak, you know. I mean, that's what you

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strive for every year. I remember
Johnny Ferrell my first spring training sat down

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next to me after a spring training
game and we were just talking a little

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bit, and he was just,
you know, hey, this is these

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are goals you should shoot for.
You know, make all your starts throw

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over two hundred innings a year,
and I mean, those are the benchmarks

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that every pitcher should look for.
And you know that's after hearing that from

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him. You know, that's what
I strive to do, year in,

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year out. And you know there
were probably some times I probably shouldn't have

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taken the ball, but you know, oh well, you know, but

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I just you know, you work
hard and you want to get that ball

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every fifth day and give your team
a chance to win. You were a

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three time All Star, including nineteen
ninety nine. What was it like pitching

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on that team? That team is
the only team in our franchise history to

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score more than one thousand runs.
I believe the ninety four team, if

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the season wasn't averted and had stopped
in August, that club probably was on

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pace to score one thousand runs.
But the ninety nine club, where man

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he had one hundred and sixty five
rebies, Robbie was just going crazy doing

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his thing. And of course Jimmy
told me being Jimmy. Of course,

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what was it like pitching for that
ball club? It was like every other

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ball club we had there. I
mean, we were just known for our

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offense, you know, scoring runs. If you go out and you know,

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you give up a few runs in
the first inning, as long as

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you hang in the game long enough, you've got a chance to win this

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game. Still. And you know, you said the ninety four team,

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and you know you could actually argue
the ninety five team too, because it

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was one hundred and forty four games
and we still had a few, obviously

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twenty some games that we didn't play
well. That team was remarkable to me.

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You guys clinched the division on September
eighth. You end up winning the

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division by thirty games, which is
ridiculous. You guys came to the park

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and the attitude was once we clinched
on September eight, was let's get to

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one hundred. Yeah, we had
to set a goal after that and it

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was just to continue on winning and
getting ready for the postseason. And yeah,

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we came to win every game.
And I know everybody who who came

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to the other teams, who came
into Jacob's field, and those years just

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didn't want to be there. They
didn't want to the pitchers didn't want to

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face our lineup. Let's focus a
little bit on one thing that I think

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is remarkable in your career. There
were two occasions in our franchise history where

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we brought back thirty to forty of
our most illustrious alumni. One was the

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closing of Cleveland Stadium October third of
nineteen ninety three, and then on July

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twenty first, two thousand and one, where we celebrated our one hundredth anniversary.

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You were on the mound for both
of those games, so you had

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to pitch in front of that crew. So let's talk about the May third.

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You're coming off an injury. But
for people that may not remember,

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we closed Cleveland Stadium with Bob Hope
after the game doing a rendition of thanks

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for the memories at Cleveland Stadium and
dotted around the field the greats at third

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base is like the al Rosens and
out and right field Rocky Colavito, and

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you got all the great pitchers circling
pitchers mound, and there's players dotted all

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around the field and they're in the
loses watching you perform. Did that sink

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in that all those eyes were on
you. Not so much at that time.

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Initially, I was just concentrating on
the game because it was my first

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start coming back, and you know, just hoping everything would go well so

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I could, you know, peace
of mind for the offseason and going into

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the next season. But then it
started to hit me a little bit when

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you know, you see all the
great players that are here and Bob Hope

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getting ready to sing after the game. I really don't even remember the outcome

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of the game. We lost,
unfortunately. I think Mark Lewis struck out

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as the final out in Cleveland Stadium
baseball history for our franchise. I think

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that's stuck in my head. But
again, you, Jay and Jason Barray

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were the two starters to become friends, both in Cleveland uniforms. But you

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were coming off an injury, so
you but that started your streak, as

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we talked in segment one about your
incredible consistency. But what do you think

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about that old cavernous place on the
lake. I loved it. You know,

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it's my first place being called up
to, and I love that stadium.

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It was a great place to pitch, had a good backdrop. You

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know, it was an older team
when I got there, and then it

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kind of changed as people saw trade
a lot of guys away and then we

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went young and just everybody was gearing
up for the next night, you know,

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for the ninety four season and the
new stadium that was being built.

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But you know, it was sold
out that day. We had a few

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sellouts throughout the season. Was day
July fourth and the final week, final

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week in all three games. And
just also you know, to be pictured

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on the tickets with mel Harder,
So I get that a lot. I

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get them in the mail, I
get them when I go back to Cleveland,

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or just random people and just want
them signed and talking about that day

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when we broke round for Jacob's Field
and it was just a that was That's

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a memory in my mind that I'll
never forget. The other one is July

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twenty first, two thousand and one
or one hundredth anniversary. There's forty plus

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members of the top one hundred roster, dotted by some of the greatest pitchers

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in the history of our franchise,
of course, and you're starting that game

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as well. Tell me all about
that day. It was a fun day.

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I mean, I've got to know
a lot of those guys that were

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there. I mean, they've been
around before, and I'd been around for

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a while and it was great to
see everybody that was there. But and

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you know, I still had to
remember that I was pitching. And I

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remember we talked of taking that photo
when I was walking in after I warmed

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up from the bullpen and getting in
the photo. And I didn't know how

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long it was going to take or
anything like that. I really didn't care

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at the time, but you know, we did that. We took the

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photo, and you know, everybody
pat me on the back, you know,

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hey, go get him, go
get him, And I'm like,

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oh god, I better pitch.
Well today that's not exactly the words you

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used to be, but it was
something like that. But yeah, I

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could not let you not be in
that photo. I didn't want it to

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be like a kindergarten homeroom picture with
a little thumbnail in the corner that Chuck

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was there, but he was pitching
that day. You had to be in

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that photo. So when we took
it, but guys like Bob Feller and

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Louis Tiant and Lenny Barker, Sonny
Sebert, mel Haarder and Mud, Gary

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Bell, Sam McDowell. They all
came up to Charlie, patted him on

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the back, said hey, we're
really looking forward to see in your throw

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today. Go get him and you
and I just had a nice little tom

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as we walked to the dugout about
that. Yeah, about Hey, don't

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screw this up. But you won
that game. You pitch great, you

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got into I believe it was through
the seventh inning and we ended up winning

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that one. So two of the
most remarkable days in our history as we

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celebrated our rich history, and you're
on the mound for both of them.

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I just think those are the really
cool things that fall in line in the

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game of baseball. Chuck, it's
been a blast catching up. Many thanks,

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and we hope you enjoyed this trip
down memory lane. We look forward

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to another edition of at the Ballpark
on the Cleveland Guardians Radio Network. As

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always thanks to Bobby d and another
edition of at the Ballpark, and that's

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going to do it for this week's
edition of Guardians Weekly. Thanks as always

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to Brian Motsey for helping to put
together our show each and every week.

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We'll join you next week from North
of the border as the Guardians will be

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in Toronto, ont Canada to play
the Blue Jays next weekend, and we'll

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join you with our show from Canada
next Saturday. Until then, this is

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