WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.439 --> 00:00:08.199 This is the baseline discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. Welcome everybody, 2 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:11.880 your tune to the baseline Kylie Warren's Shaw discussing the hot button topics of 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:17.039 the NBA. We keep things rolling along while the NBA Playoffs is going down. 4 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:21.760 Shaw and I are out there examining all of the bodies being laid out. 5 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:26.000 You know, there's only gonna be one team's left standing. The rest 6 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.199 of them are gonna be laid to rest. We got to take that time 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.760 out for us to be able to look at them, examine them, figure 8 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:36.159 out what went down, how did they die? Their untimely death and coveted 9 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:40.600 autopsy reports. So it's a great opportunity to have those conversations with the teams 10 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.520 that weren't quite good enough to get to the final stage of the coveted of 11 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:49.439 NBA Finals to at least have a chance to hoist that title. Let me 12 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.679 go and the red carpet to my right hand man's www dot shaw Sports dot 13 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.359 Net. Bicker Hunapee and see my man, mister shar repping out of Fort 14 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:59.880 Lauderdale, Florida. What's good, mister shaw Man. You know we we 15 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.319 were working over time we do do three bodies on the slab. This time, 16 00:01:03.319 --> 00:01:07.319 we you know what I'm saying, We're back to our regularly scheduled maintenance 17 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.120 so to speak. This time, we're only going to examine two this week. 18 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:17.280 Two Western Conference teams that um, you know, uh probably one obviously 19 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.120 hope they could be moving on further. One. I'm just kind of happy 20 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.959 to be there. Didn't have the season they expected, still nonetheless, but 21 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.079 yeah, man, we're we appreciate the NBA for a long let's kind of 22 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.359 get back to a regular schedule program here. Three is a lot. Two 23 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:30.640 is you know what we can manage. And I'm sure with our fans listeners 24 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.079 are are are ready and uh kind of accustomed to as well too. So 25 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.480 get back to business as usual out here. As EPM D would say, 26 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.159 Yeah, man, we can't. We can't put that many bodies out there. 27 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.519 We start considering it, like you know what I'm saying, Like people 28 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.840 were gonna start start worrying about this is like oh this is this is not 29 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.200 a good thing, right, you know, laying out all these these bodies. 30 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.159 But now we actually enjoy the opportunity of having these conversations, um and 31 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.640 doing our autopsy reports, and it's kind of like a heat check, so 32 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:00.239 to speak. For Hey, let's not forget about the teams that didn't quite 33 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.560 make it, and even the teams even if they got outsted in the playoffs, 34 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.799 you know how they how things ended and the way things ended for some 35 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.639 of these teams, I think allows us to kind of put a marker in 36 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:14.439 the road to see about what possibility moves or you know, what decisions may 37 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:16.360 have to be made. And it also gives an opportunity shof us to even 38 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:22.599 speak specifically about the players that were that that are in line of sight, 39 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.879 you know, about the future being dictated for the organizations that they play for, 40 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:29.680 you know. Um, And I think that that in and of itself 41 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.719 is great conversation, great talk, Um, for us to be able to 42 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:38.280 use that opportunity, for us to even get people more enthused about the upcoming 43 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:43.080 NBA season even while they're enjoying what they're getting from the current NBA playoffs. 44 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.800 Yeah, very well said um. And I think one of the teams is 45 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:53.800 going to be it's they. They incite a lot of emotions about who they 46 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.400 are, what they are, where they're going, and whether or not they 47 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.120 should just pack it up and give up up. So a lot of controversial 48 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:05.240 statements made about you know, one LA team, which I think everybody knows 49 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.479 who that is going to be, So a lot of great conversation to be 50 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:08.879 had here in this week's episode. Man, this is going to be a 51 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:13.319 fun autopsy to say, absolutely, so I'm glad you've kind of leaked the 52 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.919 information out for us. Shaw. Two teams that will be discussing for our 53 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:22.360 Coveted Autopsy Reports will be discussing about the Los Angeles Clippers and it will also 54 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.879 focus our attention on the Minnesota Timberwolves. So, as always, we appreciate 55 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.840 you and yours for hopping on board with us this week. 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Callie Warrenshaw Baseline NBA podcast 81 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:27.720 and this is our covered autopsy report. We discuss the teams that gets ousted. 82 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:31.480 Um. First on the Slabshaw, we got to talk about him, 83 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:41.199 Los Angeles Clippers. Um. It's funny because even when we have a reason 84 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:44.800 to talk about the Los Angeles Lakers, the Clippers just find a way to 85 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.959 be at the forefront of conversations of disappointment. However, if you are a 86 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:56.319 Clippers fan through all of this level of disappointment, there has to be some 87 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:04.480 small ray of sunshine, some kind of positive outlook regarding a team that finished 88 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:11.639 fifth in the Western Conference, a team that obviously ran into a buzz saw 89 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:17.399 with the Phoenix Suns. Arguably, if they didn't get Kevin Durant, you 90 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:24.079 may still with Russell Westbrook had an opportunity to get to the Western Conference semifinals. 91 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.839 But no, that's not what happens with this team. Shaw, It's 92 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:33.920 always focusing on I guess you could say the clowns show the oaky doke. 93 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:40.240 You know what I'm saying, syndrome that teams to just kind of follow this 94 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.639 team, that we can't take them seriously, that they're always an accident waiting 95 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.759 to happen. They can't get out of their own way. And so that's 96 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:53.279 what's disheartening, because I'm sure if you're Tyron Low and you you've been coaching 97 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.399 for as long as you've been coaching, you've been doing what you've been doing, 98 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:00.240 you just wanted to mean something for this team, this organization, especially 99 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.399 for the type of year that they've had despite getting knocked out of the first 100 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:12.360 round. Your your statement there, accident waiting to happen. If that's not 101 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:17.839 the Clippers tagline, I don't know what is at this point. It's it's 102 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.720 nothing but solemness. I have. I feel bad in some ways for Steve 103 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.759 Bomber. You can say, yeah, he's you know, he's a little 104 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.160 out there and eccentric and things of that nature. Let me just you know 105 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.360 what you know, I like to do here when we talk about the autopsy, 106 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.279 We're gonna start with the numbers. First two hundred and one million dollars 107 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:40.720 and committed sally next year for the Clippers two one two oh one, no 108 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:46.480 options, just two one. Bomber has to pay out and that's without Russ 109 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:51.319 and that's without Plumbley, who they also acquired in trade and who was pretty 110 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:56.199 decent for them, and that too, So bump that number up another twenty 111 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:01.319 to thirty million dollars at least if you're going to try to retain those guys. 112 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.480 The law or Murphy's all always says, it's like, you know what, 113 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.519 when we at least expect them to happen, that's what will happen. 114 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.519 And maybe I think for the Clippers that's what they're hoping. We're all going 115 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.879 to cut them out next year. We're all gonna say yeah, yeah, 116 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.480 yeah, whatever they look out on paper, so whatso what be healthy and 117 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.600 then will prove it and maybe next year is the year that will happen. 118 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.240 But at this point it has nothing to do with XS and o's. It 119 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.120 has nothing to do with you know, what they do from an offensive, 120 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.680 defensive rating standpoint, or whatever the case to be. This is sheerly about 121 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.360 their guys being able to stay healthy and be on the floor and bad luck, 122 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:43.600 load management, whatever. It's all this convoluted gumbo of shit really for 123 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:50.000 the Clippers. That just can't allow them to be successful and nobody, nobody 124 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:52.480 is going to to believe in them in any capacity. And I do think 125 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.759 stephen A went hard and so the Clippers should have forced co Whider retire and 126 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.639 all kind of like wild stuff like that. At the end of the day, 127 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.200 Um, if Kawhi retired, I also would not be surprised, but 128 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.919 the Clippers forcing him to do so, I think it's just a pretty pretty 129 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.759 much ridiculous statement. But to me, the Clippers are almost almost not worthy, 130 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.159 not worth atop, seeing in the aspect of it has nothing to do 131 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:18.200 with anything that they can really control because they've died so many times in the 132 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:24.720 course of the regular season. But it's it's any times the same death every 133 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:30.000 single year. It's the same. It's the exact same way with other teams. 134 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.679 It's like, Okay, well this happened or that happened or whatever. 135 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:35.679 It's always Kawhi and PG weren't healthy, Kawhi MPG weren't healthy, And at 136 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.840 this point it's just a broken record of that. Um, nobody even really 137 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.799 cares about at this point other than the Clippers themselves. Yeah, Um, 138 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.000 it's sad because you can kind of blame the climate of the NBA saying, 139 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:54.320 you know, in order to win, you need at least two superstars. 140 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.919 Um Sean, you know how I've how I've been about this, right, 141 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:11.039 Franchises that make a decision to provide an identity to themselves have to understand that 142 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.720 the only way that you can mitigate the risk of this type of investment with 143 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:20.679 players is making sure that you have foundational players that you can lean on when 144 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.120 those guys go out. So what I mean by that is you look at 145 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:33.320 the Boston Celtics. They've drafted Tatum Brown, Smart right and role players. 146 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:37.919 And while they're leaning on these stars, you know, to to to come 147 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.600 up and be stars, they went and they did free agency moves. Right, 148 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.639 Didn't they get Kyrie Irving? What happened there? Right? Did they 149 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:52.639 not make other certain moves? They couldn't keep haw Hafer, he leaves, 150 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:58.320 Guess who comes back to Boston. But what's still standing there are their foundational 151 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.399 players and they have been founate enough. Right, Like, yes, the 152 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.320 lottery, I'm not using that as the as the as the straight and narrow 153 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.360 example. What I'm saying is is that the Los Angeles Clippers have never shown 154 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:20.360 a propensity to draft well or to make sure that they keep their foundational pieces 155 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:24.759 so that when they go out in free agency and they make this big splash, 156 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:30.120 that everything rests on that one said player or this one particular move, 157 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.759 because then bye bye. By this showing you that if the guy's not healthy, 158 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.600 or the guy's not committed, or something goes on, you have got 159 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:43.000 nothing, right, You've got nothing. All of that money shaw are are 160 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:48.879 all invested in guys who are coming from different places, but none of them 161 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:54.720 truly have been a part of or embrace the Los Angeles Clippers, right. 162 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.840 And so that to me is the fear. And I feel bad because Balmer 163 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:05.159 is doing every everything in his power to put together a successful, winning basketball 164 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.799 culture, not just a team man culture, and a lot of these guys 165 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:16.200 have don't have the same kind of mentality or are approaching it much differently than 166 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.639 what the money is dictating, and what and the frustrations that I think people 167 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:22.559 are seeing from this team. Let's let's put it like this show, if 168 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.639 we stripped the disappointment of this season, wasn't it? During this iteration of 169 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:31.919 Tyron looted, he finally got the Los Angeles Clippers to the Western Conference finals, 170 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:37.360 Right, wasn't that? Wasn't there that opportunity when when Doc Rivers was 171 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:43.799 the head coach and they had Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. 172 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.200 You know what I'm saying, And it's just interesting to me, Shaw 173 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.879 that those of those three pieces, Chris Paul was the journeyman, Blake Griffin 174 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:58.039 was their homegrown talent, and DeAndre Jordan as well, Right, and none, 175 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.360 none of these pieces are there anymore. But again, for that team 176 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.080 to still be somewhat successful, they held on to Griffin. They held on 177 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.679 and all of a sudden, you abandoned those rules. You decide we're gonna 178 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.200 go in a completely different direction with this is all about Kawhi and it's all 179 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.720 about George. And now, if this doesn't pan out, it doesn't matter 180 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.759 if Leonard or George leaves. But if this doesn't pan out, what are 181 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:26.440 you resting this team's future on? What foundational piece? Are you actually saying 182 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:28.559 there's going to be some sort of hope that this team is going to be 183 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:35.200 able to hang with the Pacific Division, let alone the Western Conference. Nothing. 184 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.120 It's just it's crazy to me, Shaw, it's absolutely crazy to me. 185 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.720 I think they're in a situation now where again that number is going to 186 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.080 jump from two o one. I almost feel like they kind of have to 187 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:50.200 bring Russ back. I don't know what that number is going to be. 188 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.039 Is it, you know, three year sixty type of thing? I don't. 189 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.440 I don't know. And then what do you bring Clumby back at as 190 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.679 well? Too? All those guys are thirty plus years old as our Kawhi 191 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.840 ANDPG because they here, you know, and I don't want to make this 192 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.200 to become a repetitive theme, but I honestly don't see an o the path 193 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.360 for them. Paul George and Kawhi Leonard have player options in twenty four, 194 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:15.039 twenty five, and I think obviously next year they're all in the contract. 195 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.960 They can maybe um Eric Gordon's number is not fully guaranteed, but everybody else 196 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.679 is under contract. So this is this is your team, and you've made 197 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.559 so many moves in terms of, you know, to get it, getting 198 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.840 to get Kawhi MPG there. You don't have a whole lot of draft equity 199 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.440 now and you know, all the moves even made this this past season and 200 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.519 getting rid of Canard and then bringing it in you know, Bones Highland and 201 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.159 so forth, and so like, it's just a lot of things coming in 202 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.399 and out. So there's not a clear path to roster construction from the draft 203 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.840 or even free agency because of the cap that they're already kind of that right 204 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.720 now. So it is, hey, let's see if we get load. 205 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.120 Let's do it. Let's gear up and do it one more time. Can 206 00:14:54.200 --> 00:15:00.279 we load manager our way into whatever seed and then hopefully fingers crossed, bubble 207 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.639 gum and tape keep these guys pieced up together so that next year's playoff run 208 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.000 can be even better than what we've seen. And again, as I said 209 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.840 in the outset, none of us believe that's going to happen. But they 210 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.679 don't have a whole a lot of they don't have a lot of choices here 211 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.000 right now. And maybe they can move some of these supplemental pieces and Marcus 212 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.840 Morris and Robert Covington and guys like that, but nothing that's going to make 213 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:26.000 their teams substantively better because Paul, George and Kawhi are the guys, and 214 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:31.320 one more year is the way that this this thing probably goes. And I 215 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.480 think after once however it ends next year twenty four twenty five is a year 216 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:39.799 that both of those guys probably opt out, depending on where they're not obviously 217 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.000 in their career, and maybe they say, you know what, this LA 218 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.480 situation didn't work out for us one or the other. But I think next 219 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.159 year we're going to see this exact same team with minor change. Okay, 220 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:54.559 so let me let me let me try to put this as delicately as I 221 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.039 could possibly put this. I agree with you when I look at this roster 222 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.320 to the show, this roster is so heavily uneas even right. In other 223 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:03.799 words, what I'm saying is is that there is so much dependency on Kawhi 224 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:10.399 Leonard and Paul George that I don't think that they have enough versatility so that 225 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:15.000 if and when these guys do get injured, there's anyone there to really kind 226 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.960 of step in with any identity to supplement or do I mean and listen, 227 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:22.200 that's the uniqueness in the greatness of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, right, 228 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:29.000 they arguably are one of we're one of the two best two way players that 229 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:34.480 you know, our generation has had, you know, between him, George 230 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.840 and Clay Thompson. They ushered in the error of the two way player and 231 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.759 it's importance in this NBA right. But we can also have seen as well 232 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.879 too that because of the extensiveness of using these guys the way that we've used 233 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:55.720 them, that their body has broken down. And they also recognize that they 234 00:16:55.759 --> 00:17:00.840 are going to be the forefront of load management when you have so much committed 235 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.840 salary in these guys, right, So part of that, to me, 236 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:07.519 Shaw speaks more to the fact that you have to balance this team out in 237 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:12.559 some way, shape or form to give yourself the ability to say we're going 238 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:18.720 to load manage right throughout the year. We're gonna load manage, and they 239 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.119 should they should be justified. And so because it's clear neither one of these 240 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:27.720 guys are capable of finishing sixty percent of their NBA season, it's just not 241 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.960 going to happen. Even if even if you say, best case scenario they 242 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.559 are one hundred percent healthy, the Clippers won't even allow that to happen. 243 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.279 So I don't know what they're gonna do, Shaw, I genuinely don't know 244 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:41.799 what they're going to do. What I can say, though, is this, 245 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:45.880 And I was going to ask you this question about this you decide to 246 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:51.640 bring back Russell Westbrook, Russell Westbrook to me still looks like a guy that 247 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:53.559 wants to get out and run. I don't think he wants to be the 248 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.799 guy that has to sit there in a half court set and always have to 249 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:00.480 figure out and look for the shot. He may want to know, juststribute 250 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:06.400 and find guys, but doesn't that counter what you really want to see from 251 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:11.519 George and Leonard? Has not their play transitioned to a more half court oriented 252 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:15.680 style offense? And is that what Tyron lou is going to have to work 253 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:21.480 with even if you do decide to bring back Russell Westbrook and being able to 254 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:26.799 implement Westbrook style of play to complement George and Leonard. It's a valid point. 255 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.759 And I think, you know, in the regular season that can be 256 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.279 answered very simply by kind of staggering some of those minutes. You know, 257 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.759 you have one or one of those three are definitely or two of those three 258 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.839 kind of out there, maybe maybe not all three, so Russ can't get 259 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:41.960 it and go, you know, off of rebound and go up there and 260 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.880 try to push at times. But then when you're running half court offense, 261 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.920 you know, maybe he's not the guy who's you know, facilitating. They 262 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:49.359 just didn't get a lot of overlap. I think with all three of them 263 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.920 the course of the season, especially Russ came so late as he did. 264 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:56.359 I think what it would it comes down to, though, for next year, 265 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.359 is one of PG and Kauai have to be there. I think there's 266 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:06.920 actually enough talent wise with Norman Powell in whatever role normal Powers seems to be 267 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.079 able to handle a increased offensive role if if you needed to be the starter, 268 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.119 and and I was going to actually throw this out at you Shaw as 269 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:17.559 a question, let me ask throw this out because you're getting right into this 270 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.519 point. I wanted to ask you, would you be opposed to seeing Paul 271 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.240 George or Kawhi Leonard coming off the bench. I don't see a world where 272 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.079 that happens, I understand, but I'm just saying, would you be opposed 273 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.319 to that? Probably? I mean, I think Norman Power is still still 274 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.680 better suited as a guy coming off the bench. It doesn't help them in 275 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:41.480 any capacity in terms of their load management, whether they start or come off 276 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:42.599 the bench. So it's going to be about how they how they finish. 277 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:47.000 I don't know what it does to the roster um in terms of sorry the 278 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.440 starting rotations that degree. You know, if you're really squinting to see it, 279 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.480 it probably benefits rusts more than anything else. And I don't know if 280 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.480 you want to do that based on Russ's actually actual being available or versus all 281 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.960 right, with the talent on the roster actually indicates and dictates because you're more 282 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.839 than likely you're gonna you're gonna cater to Paul George and Kauhi for the most 283 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.799 part. But I think one of those guys coming off the bench probably caters 284 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.400 to Russ if he continues to beat your starter Norma Powe can oscillate either way. 285 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.799 I think he's good. It doesn't matter whether he starts comes off the 286 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.000 bench. And I think PG and Kawhi are just obviously too proud and too 287 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:23.759 good for that to really be their their true lives, I think at this 288 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.039 point. But it's an interesting situation, But you're not going to cater your 289 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.680 team to to kind of go around Russell Westbrook, I think at the stage 290 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.359 of his career either. Yeah, but I don't think I don't think it's 291 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.359 a question of catering. I think to me, it's a question of dynamic 292 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:41.680 right and you know, again, who do you have and and and maybe 293 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:47.039 that's what's gonna make it an interesting, you know, a dilemma sort of 294 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.720 speak for Tyron Lew to take into consideration once he has, you know, 295 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.319 a full grasp of what this roster is going to look like. To your 296 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.920 point, there's not going to be a whole lot of movement being made. 297 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:00.119 So I'm sure that Tyron Lew is already going to be looking at some of 298 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.559 the guys who are already ready available and implementing some kind of plan to say, 299 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.240 I need you guys to be here when we get come back, you 300 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.759 know, the training camp. I need you guys to be here with your 301 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.400 game. I need you to be here with your game. That's probably the 302 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.000 one good thing that we can say, because typically when you see a lot 303 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:22.119 of transition transactions happening in the off season, you know, most head coaches 304 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.200 really can't do a whole lot except for who they know is obviously there, 305 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.720 and the tweaking really begins when these guys are all collectively together, or maybe 306 00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:36.839 they have some you know, off training you know, camps or stuff like 307 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:40.599 that. But it's to me, the one good thing that you can't say 308 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:45.720 about this is that Lou has an opportunity to really evaluate and talk to Mishaw. 309 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.759 It's not the stars, because they're either going to be there or not. 310 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:55.440 It's the role players and really trying to figure out how deep I can 311 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:00.839 truly go with what I need to do if and when that's situation occurs. 312 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.759 Again, where in case of emergency break glass, because that's what's gonna happen 313 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.440 with this team, no question. Well again, what I was saying earlier 314 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.599 is I think you need one of PG and Kawhi to be healthy. And 315 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.279 then with Palelan Russ, you have a chance, I mean not necessarily play, 316 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:18.039 not a title contending chance, but you have a chance to maybe do 317 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.839 something in the playoffs with the supplemental parts. The auxiliary guys who could probably 318 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:26.720 go again are Covington and Marcus Morris. And but what is the return if 319 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.480 you even were to trade them, like you're just not You're not getting a 320 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:33.599 first round even And I think that's the thing like yours, you would say, 321 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.359 yes, move them, And all I'm just saying is is that man, 322 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.440 even if you cannot move them, if there's nothing else there, they 323 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:44.000 cannot be guys that are just taking up space on the bench and not giving 324 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.720 you anything. Like if Covington is really there to be a defender, then 325 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.640 he's got to be a better defender. He can't be a liability. If 326 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.039 that's his calling card, then be better at that, right, um, 327 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:59.119 Nicholas Betune, Right like there has to be In other words, I think 328 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:04.400 what I'm saying Shaw is that Tyron Lou cannot afford to solely depend on well, 329 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.119 if my guys are healthy, that is so far from this anymore. 330 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:12.119 You have got to figure out a way to work with the other guys out 331 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:17.599 there and make sure that they are an intricate part in however capacity you use 332 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:19.119 them, because they got to be out on the floor. You can't just 333 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.559 let them sit there on the bench. Unfortunately, the injuries to your star 334 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.559 players don't give you the flexibility of thinking that that can happen. You get 335 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.119 what I'm saying. Most other coaches can basically sit there and say I'll use 336 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.079 a nine man lineup because they have confidence that their guys stay healthy. They're 337 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.680 on the floor, you know, and I can go through those stretches. 338 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:41.960 Tyron Lou don't have that luxury. You know, if he's not playing any 339 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.960 of these guys, you can't then suddenly expect them even if they get into 340 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:48.480 the playoffs, so they're suddenly going to start contributing. You've pretty much frozen 341 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:51.400 them for the rest of the year. So either get rid of them or 342 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.440 you really got to put emphasis on the fact that if there's no flexibility, 343 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.680 and this is what you gotta work with, these guys have got to step 344 00:23:56.759 --> 00:24:00.400 up and be better. They just do and age may catch up with them, 345 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.480 whatever, but they've got they're on the roster, they're on the bench. 346 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.799 You gotta use them. He has he has to go with a different 347 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:11.599 mentality. I guess in what I'm saying in utilizing that roster to the fullest, 348 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:17.640 he is one of the few people that using the full fifteen full fourteen. 349 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:19.279 He's got to use them all because they all are going to have to 350 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.680 contribute in some capacity to supplement what they're not going to be able to get 351 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.720 through the course of the season with their star players. Yeah, only I'll 352 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:32.119 close by this. I think it's it's it's hard for for Lous to do 353 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:37.880 that because it's one thing. Uh, let's take let's take Marcus Morris, 354 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.400 for instance, so he'll he's going to get twenty eight minutes tonight because Paul 355 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.759 George is out. Well, Paul George is back tomorrow, So now Marcus 356 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.640 Morris gets twelve minutes. And so the oscillating of those auxiliary parts becomes that 357 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.880 they hard for them to kind of get into the rhythm. I understand, 358 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.200 like the experience if they were younger guys, like, hey, the minutes 359 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.039 or the minutes and the experience is important, but these are mostly veteran guys. 360 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.640 We sat here on on Award Show and gave the Clippers, or at 361 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.559 least I did, Hey, they're the deepest team in the league because they 362 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.640 have the most amount of known guys and the most amount of capable known guys 363 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.319 that are coming off their bench. But all those guys seem to be in 364 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.799 some sumonlance of a rhythm. And because of the load management that's going to 365 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.079 continue with the team, like let's not fool ourselves here, it puts those 366 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:19.160 people and those players in a very precarious situation because you're getting thirty minutes one 367 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.559 night, you're getting ten minutes the next night, and how do you build 368 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.519 a rhythm throughout the course of the season with that, um and supposed we're 369 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:27.000 just like, yeah, I want to stay ready, I think it's hard. 370 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.839 I look at that roster and there's twelve guys who should probably play, 371 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.279 you know, including Bones Highland and Terrence Man. You know, so if 372 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.160 you bring back Russ and you bring back Plumbley, you know, nobody's littering 373 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:40.400 on twelve man rotation out there. You know, this isn't college, so 374 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:42.839 um, this is gonna be tough for the Clippers too to oscillate and figure 375 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.079 out here. But for me, Meg, let's see what they do next 376 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.680 year. And you know, I'll be waiting for the injuries to happen. 377 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.880 Before you know, I put any any real, any real money on this 378 00:25:53.920 --> 00:26:00.039 Clipper. You're already amputating them before they even step out. Why why would 379 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.799 you not? Why why would you believe anything else different what happened? And 380 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.279 I'm not disagreeing with you, but it and it sucks, it really, 381 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.720 it really does suck. And listen, I feel bad for Clippers fans man. 382 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:12.640 You know, a lot of you guys are so fixated on all of 383 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.440 these you know, faux pas, rivalries and things of that nature. And 384 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:22.759 it's like man, your team has got to be present and accounted for before 385 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.880 you even worry about those things. And that's what I'm hoping for more than 386 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.319 anything. I mean, listen, the Clippers shall have been a great find 387 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.640 for the NBA as far as a competitive nature because they speak to something that 388 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:38.000 is that doesn't get talked about, which is the willingness to find a way 389 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:42.759 to still compete and not let injuries become the excuse. But there does come 390 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:47.319 a point from an organization's perspective, from a fan perspective, and even from 391 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:52.359 a player perspective perspective, that this does not It just doesn't become sustainable anymore 392 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.119 when you just don't have able bodies out there competing, right when when you're 393 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.480 basically working with a mash unit on a night in, night out. They 394 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.759 there just comes a point where something has got to give on that and I'm 395 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:06.640 just hoping that they figured that out a lot sooner than later before it really 396 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:11.240 sets this organization back further than even before. Your tune to the baseline. 397 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:17.000 Cali Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA and this are coveted autopsy 398 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:22.000 reports coming up. 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Man, their team that wants to be among one 423 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.559 of those elites, but their record and their inconsistency of gameplay lends us to 424 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:15.640 continue to think differently. Right, only two games above five hundred coming in 425 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:22.759 is the eighth seed. I don't know, man, do you buy or 426 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.599 sell on the Minnesota Timberwolves. There's a lot of selling going on here, 427 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.920 but there's a caveat to where the symbolwolve season went right, Kat only played 428 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.359 twenty nine games, so that is obviously not what they expected. And while 429 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:41.440 the Gobert pairing alongside Cat wasn't all that great either, they need Cat to 430 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.920 play, you know, more than twenty nine games for the season to have 431 00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.960 a true indication of how everything was supposed to work out. I think one 432 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.279 thing is clear after the playoffs. Anthony Edwards is and needs to be that 433 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.440 guy We've been saying that now for a couple of season, and Kat actually 434 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.240 needs to be kind of the the unsillary guy in the backup the robin to 435 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.759 an Anthon Edwards, Batman and then Gobert and Conley. I think the Conley 436 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.519 move was really astute of them. But my biggest question I think for the 437 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.640 Timberwolves is not necessarily how they figure out that starting rotation, but the compliment 438 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.319 complimentary pieces of like naz Reid, who was so immense for them and that 439 00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.799 he got hurt. Are they going to be able to retain him because I 440 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.279 think it's gonna be a lot of interest out there and that guy a lot 441 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.440 of interest, And if they do retain him, that probably comes to the 442 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:30.039 detriment of Gobert because there's times this year where Reid looked a lot better at 443 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.519 least in terms of the pairing alongside the rest of those guys, then Gobert 444 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.960 did so. For me, that's where some of these bigger questions lie with 445 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:41.759 the Minnesota Timberwolves. But they just definitely need to have Kat and Edwards together 446 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.559 in a sixty to seventy games sample size to have any type of real wiggle 447 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.079 and shake in the Western Conference moving forward. Yeah, I mean, it's 448 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:55.160 to me, this is all about Anthony Edwards. It's you know, one 449 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.880 thing I can ask honestly give you Shaw is that Anthony Edwards is a man 450 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.880 of his word. He said that his emphasis is that he wanted to be 451 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.759 a better player defensively, eventually wants to be defensive Player of the Year. 452 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.960 He wants to be among one of the best players in the NBA, and 453 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:14.079 he is continually taking those strides to get there. I think what partly sucks 454 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.799 is whether or not the organization is reading this properly enough so that the players 455 00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.920 that Anthony Edwards are surrounded by are giving him the opportunities and the chance for 456 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.799 him to continue to do those things. He's young, so I think part 457 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.880 of this is going to be like that growth process, but a lot of 458 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.759 it. Again, I think it's more organizational than anything. You know, 459 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.960 if they do retain a guy like nas Read, that's fine, but then 460 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:45.240 this is on Finch to figure out a way for both Gobet and Read too 461 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:52.200 in concert really help bolster that front court. To your point, Kat being 462 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.680 gone for twenty nine games definitely was a blow to them. And while this 463 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.960 team, you know, looked a little bit better defensively then last year, 464 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:07.599 I still think that part of that is that this team has holes um from 465 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.559 a defensive perspective that you know, maybe their offense can make up for at 466 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:16.319 times, but certainly there's just not enough consistency there to buy into it. 467 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.559 It'll be interesting to see what takes place here, but I agree with you 468 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.640 that, like I think, part of what needs to happen here is making 469 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:30.519 sure Kat stays healthy. But more importantly, they really have to to to 470 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.440 to figure out how to share up a lot of those supplemental pieces around the 471 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.400 star players that they have in order for those minutes to be meaningful when they 472 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.599 come off, when they go you know, when they go to the bench, 473 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:49.000 that the Minnesota Timberwolves can be you know, a a viable basketball team. 474 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:51.440 You know what I'm saying on a night in, night out basis. 475 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.599 Yeah, so they're they're better defensively. They've been really pretty good the defensively 476 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:59.480 the last two years. Actually it's the offense that's really struggling. And they 477 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.599 turn the ball over a lot. And I don't know how much you want 478 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.000 to put on D'Angelo Russell. You know, from when he was there, 479 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.599 he was actually two points even turnovers, and Conny as a guy who's traditionally 480 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.200 not a high turnover guy, so that will help somewhat. But they turn 481 00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.759 them all over a lot, and they foul a lot as well, too, 482 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.039 consistently putting people on the line, even with one of the better rate 483 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:19.599 of defense. So if you're if you're a good defense, you're probably more 484 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.759 physical anyway, and then yeah, there's your more susceptible to fouling. But 485 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.680 some of those things I think they can kind of turn down and get better 486 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.279 at internally without a whole lot of effort defense, I mean in terms of 487 00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.599 scheme, and that's just just kind of changing the way that they contest and 488 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.960 do some of those things effort wise. Yeah, I agree with you. 489 00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.279 I think to me, show up and again the numbers will always speak to 490 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:44.720 certain things that we say. All right, you know they're they're good, 491 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.279 they're bad, whatever, But that to your point, the fact that this 492 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:52.680 is a team that has a propensity to foul, right, meaning they're giving 493 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.960 three points to the opposing team, and more importantly, their players are not 494 00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:05.480 on the floor inavailable clutch or quote unquote important minutes. Right. This has 495 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.960 been the same problem with kat it's the same problem with Rudy Gobert. So 496 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.440 again, an adjustment is going to have to be And you can also make 497 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.719 the argument Anthony Edwards is susceptible to this. These are your star players, 498 00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.639 these are your cornerstone players. They've got to be on the floor. So 499 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:27.920 there has to be some kind of influence approach or a schematic change that allows 500 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:32.320 them to be able to stay on that court much longer so that what they 501 00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.360 give you, whether it's offensively or defensively, has meaning to it. That's 502 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.000 all that I'm saying. I'm not saying that they're a bad defensive team, 503 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:44.800 but I'm saying that the timeliness of how their star players are not able to 504 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.280 perform, whether it's because they have to come off they have to go to 505 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:53.519 the bench or because they can't execute because defensively they're allowing other teams to get 506 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:58.440 through them because they're carrying three four fouls. This team has had a propensity 507 00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.679 of allowing that to happen way too many times over and it stymies what you 508 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.559 could put potentially see from them offensively. So that that and I think part 509 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.360 of that as well too, is making sure that you can bring in role 510 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:16.039 players where if you want guys like Cat and guys like Anthony Edwards and I 511 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.880 don't want to say Gobert. I think he's a risk taker at times, 512 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.360 but not nearly as much with his defensity to block shots and things of that 513 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.280 nature. But with Cat and with Edwards, they are risk takers. They're 514 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.360 going to have a high, you know, foul volume in you know, 515 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.039 through the course of a game. If you want that to be the case, 516 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.800 you gotta have guys that they're going to come off the bench and really 517 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:43.000 help be able to be supplemental and maintain some consistency out there. Four finch 518 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.599 to say, I can leave them off you know what I'm saying, take 519 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.159 them off the floor for like eight seven minutes. They can't afford to do 520 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.159 that if their guys are not going to come in and be able to sustain 521 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.920 either scoring or sustain their defensive abilities. I mean, I mean that's a 522 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.159 game, right, you know, can you figure out a ways to to 523 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.159 kind of out your your negative eye spects? You know when some of your 524 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.159 stars go out and not take too much of a hit. You know a 525 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.199 lot of times people skew and where or the other the two defensive mind and 526 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.800 they're two offensive minded. Getting that median aspect or building a rotation um and 527 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.480 a second unit that compliments here is the key to that too. So Jada 528 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:21.000 McDaniels is a guy who you know probably starts for them and then it's still 529 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.320 working on his offense, but is a high level defender. Conversely, o 530 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.280 naz Reid is a high level offensive guy who probably needs to figure out more 531 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:30.880 chops defensively if they're able to retain him. The Symbols team, I think 532 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.880 again, they they they are. They're not as bad as I think as 533 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:42.840 a record should because I while I understand the the the distaste a lot of 534 00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:45.440 people I have for Cat, I get it and I can understand it in 535 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.760 in a very very poignant way. I'm also not at the same mindset of 536 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:52.760 like, okay, where he's he's not valuable at all to what they do. 537 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:54.599 And you can't tell me if he plays even thirty more games. He 538 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.199 played twenty nine total games this year, he plays thirty more games that that 539 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:02.320 doesn't have at least a ten ten win difference from where they where they were. 540 00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.599 I think they really could have been, you know, a forty five 541 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.599 to even fifty win team had he been healthy the entire year. And you 542 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:10.880 know, maybe that's maybe that's foolish to say. You know, I don't 543 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.679 know, expecially for the people out there who really don't like him specifically, 544 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:16.800 but they didn't get a real fair shake at it. But they also didn't 545 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.760 do themselves any favors. And this is a year where they can kind of 546 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:24.239 look internally, figure out some role definement here obviously, and then I think 547 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:29.800 retain guys like nas Red and figure out a more defined role for McDaniels even 548 00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.920 moving forward, and then I think they'll be all right and maybe we can 549 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:37.320 see the true sober Timberwolves this upcoming season. 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And as always, we love you and we 574 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.239 thank you for your support. We'll talk more about the Minnesota Timberwolves here on 575 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:36.599 the Baseline. We are back call Lee Warrenshaw Baseline NBA Podcast and we are 576 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.159 focusing our attention on the Minnesota Timberwolves and are coveted at autopsy reports. So 577 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:51.360 Shaw, the question that I have for you is this, Mike Conley obviously 578 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:57.599 was an intelligent choice as as as as to come in and really round things 579 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:04.360 out for the Timberwolves in many respects really help improve Rudy Gobert because you know 580 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:09.800 they were about to hang his ass. But my question to you is is 581 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:16.840 is Mike Conley the right point guard for this team moving forward? And the 582 00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.320 reason why I asked this question is there may be an opportunity here, right, 583 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:28.480 you may have an opportunity for Anthony Edwards. While he I think he's 584 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.920 a great dominant point guard, he's also a guy that likes to have the 585 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:36.159 ball in his hands, and he also likes to play in an isolated, 586 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.599 isolation style type of way. I think Finch is allowed that to happen, 587 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:43.840 you know, quite often through the courses this year. Is it out the 588 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.400 realm of possibility that he could transition to being more of a guard so to 589 00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:54.559 speak, and because he's gonna have the ball in his hands more when it 590 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.360 comes to having a guy like Mike Conley who you would think have the ball 591 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.320 more in his hands, but he is he isn't as he isn't as transitional 592 00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.440 as I think the Timberwolves need to be with their with their with their youth 593 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:12.480 and their athleticism. That's the reason wh I'm kind of curious and I'm like, 594 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.719 how long do you continue to go with this combination. If you're Finch, 595 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.679 Yeah, I think Conley's fine for where they are right now. He 596 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.199 was an upgrade from D'Angel Russell, who is Yeah, I'm not saying that 597 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.920 he wasn't No, absolutely yeah. I think just think that when he trumped 598 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.000 out of the ball dominant. So Connley is not a super high useless guy. 599 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.440 He knows how to get guys at the spots, but not and pick 600 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.519 his own spots were necessarily where I think Russell might have struggled with that. 601 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.039 I don't. I wouldn't want Anthony Edivers having to run and initiate offense on 602 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:42.000 a regular basis. I think, you know, you get a guy like 603 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.320 Conley who can table set for him, um in a way that gets him 604 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.280 to to some of his spots. Wellether it is, even if it is 605 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.920 to create some level of of isolation at some point, that's probably that better 606 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.599 move. And Connley he only has. You know, next year will be 607 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.440 the final year of his deal, and then you can make some hard decisions 608 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.400 whether or not Conny will be thirty six, you know after that, after 609 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:02.440 next season, and do you figure out a way to get some someone's of 610 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.960 an upgrade or just just move off of him altogether bring him back, you 611 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:08.800 know. As again, I don't think Conny's gotten past a lot of his 612 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.239 injury issues at least, you know, knock on wood and think again, 613 00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.280 he's just low maintenance and probably what they need for this team that has some 614 00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.679 some some growing up and maturity that needs to kind of permate throughout their locker 615 00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:22.239 room. That includes Cat as well too, who wants to be a leader, 616 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.239 who just kind of has has a maturalized for him yet. So I 617 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.400 like Connley being there for multitude of reasons, but a lot of them start 618 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.400 with the basket of the actual basketball, which would keep Edwards you know, 619 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.559 off ball and allowing him to kind of develop that way as as a as 620 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.000 a high efficient scorer in this NBA. Do you we always come to this 621 00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:46.239 question when you talk about Karl Anthony Towns. Do you view Towns as a 622 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:53.280 one B or to a type player? Yeah, I think the stats will 623 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.559 tell you that he's one B, but I think in terms of the locker 624 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.559 room and aspect, I think he's probably more of a two. You know, 625 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.360 and we you know, we talked about the Clippers on the earlier earlier 626 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.679 segment and Paul George you know, said on the podcast recently, He's like, 627 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.320 hey, I realized that I needed to be a number two, and 628 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.079 that's that's humbling. Some people are going to poke fun at that, but 629 00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.440 there's nothing wrong with understanding, like, hey, who who you are and 630 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.519 what your what your actual makeup is. I don't think Cat has come to 631 00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.320 that realization as of yet. And I'm not saying that he shouldn't strive to 632 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.719 be better. I mean, we all should be trying to do that, 633 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.559 but I think as currently constructed, if you're looking at taking it from the 634 00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.800 eye test, Edward seems to be the guy who can really truly command the 635 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.960 locker room and command the court in a way that that Cat doesn't. And 636 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.400 while Cat's numbers are always going to be impressive, there's something that's just a 637 00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.119 little bit missing when it comes to the galvanization of the rest of the team 638 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.039 and the roster around that. So that's where I stand on it. Cat's 639 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.480 not destitute. Cat's not as bad as a lot of people is trying to 640 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.079 make him out to be. But I don't think he's the one a build 641 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.719 your team around type guy. But I think they have they have a guy 642 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.320 there, it's just a matter of having that role definement kind of be more 643 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:02.599 curly constructed for both of them as as this franchise pushes forward here in the 644 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:07.119 coming seasons. Well, I like how you put that, because I think 645 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.840 part of that is when the rubber, you know, meets the road, 646 00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.360 so to speak, about what do you do with with Karl Anthony Towns if 647 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:23.800 if what he's doing is not affluent to what you're getting from Anthony Edwards? 648 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.199 Right, Like, so Karl Anthony Towns average is like twenty points per game, 649 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.239 right, what does that actually mean in the grand the grand scheme of 650 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.159 things. See, you know what I'm saying, y'all like to me, 651 00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:38.159 like, what's interesting is that Karl Anthony Towns came into the NBA as being 652 00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:45.000 this offensively potentially gifted player. And there's nothing that doesn't say that. But 653 00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.199 there's nothing other than the injuries that's jumping out at me saying he can do 654 00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.679 this and he can consistently do it throughout you know what I'm saying, Like, 655 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:59.360 if you kind of look through through his you know the years that he's 656 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.639 played, he has a highs and he's got a lot of lows where he 657 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.400 just disappears from games. Part of it was, Okay, he didn't have 658 00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:12.559 that one A player next to him or one B player. All right, 659 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.679 He's had Anthony Edwards next to him a few times. Now we're seeing Anthony 660 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:21.000 Edwards taking leaps and bounds of elevating himself not just as potentially one of the 661 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.159 most offensively exposive players in the game of basketball, but also being one of 662 00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.559 the more dynamic leaders in the game of basketball at age twenty one. And 663 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.639 so what I'm just saying is is that, like, even if we wanted 664 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:37.199 to backtrack a little bit and put Karl Anthony Towns in a specific space of 665 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.239 this is going to give him the opportunity for him to grow. I'm just 666 00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:43.840 curious of what that growth is supposed to look like. Is it him going 667 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.679 back to being that offensively gifted basketball player that everyone says that he is. 668 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.239 Which part of that means as well, at his position, not only should 669 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:55.079 his game flourish for his ability to shoot the basketball, but his game as 670 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:59.800 his ability to play that four position, to be able to have mid range 671 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.639 and be able to post and take He doesn't really do all of that, 672 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.679 you know, and I don't know if it's because of injury. I don't 673 00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.159 know if it's just preferences style of play. All I'm just saying is it's 674 00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.360 that, like, it's hard to define now what Karl Anthony's Town offensively is 675 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.239 going to be able to give you, just simply because we're starting to see, 676 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.039 you know, a little bit of I want to say, inconsistency again 677 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:28.960 in the definition of what he's going to bring to the table for a team 678 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.519 that really, from a talent perspective, should be a middle ground team at 679 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.840 the very least as floor level. That's what this team is. But to 680 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.800 your point, the twenty nine games robbed us of being able to say if 681 00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.760 whether or not that's true or false in that belief. With the elevation of 682 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.920 what Edwards had given you this year and moving Russell and bringing in a comparable 683 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.679 point guard to allow us to be able to make that assessment about whether or 684 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:58.960 not go bear, Edwards and Towns are a good trifecta for this, for 685 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:01.719 this team and the organisation. Yeah, I'll just close by saying this Town's 686 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:05.719 has the ability to live on the perimeter. Obviously in the minutes where Gobet 687 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.719 is out there I think he should flip flop in the minutes if they keep 688 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.159 NOAs Read were, now he becomes a guy who goes down to the block 689 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.079 and let nas Read be the shooter from the perimeter. I think it's ridiculous 690 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.440 to maybe had them both doing that at the same time. So I think 691 00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.639 if you stagger the minutes in the rotation, that allows times to get to 692 00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:24.800 get the requisite post touches that I think can keep him efficient and kind of 693 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:30.079 keep him in a mode that makes sense for the Timberwolves holistically, and then 694 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.360 he can venture back out there the perimeter when when Gobet's there, you know, 695 00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:37.440 in those minutes together. But he tends to want to just be perimeter 696 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.079 based with very very very very few paint touches and post ups, and I 697 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:44.960 think that does the Timber Bowls a disservice, especially when they're trying to hunt 698 00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:46.360 for ways to get easy offense. So we'll see if they make those some 699 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.239 of those changes going into next season. All right, Well, to your 700 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.719 point, Shaw, I mean, you hope that what we're varying is the 701 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:58.480 bad habits of the Minnesota Timberwolves. If there's any ability for them to take 702 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.079 an elevated you know, I'm saying to put themselves in an elevated space, 703 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.320 take that next level up sort of speak. I would hate to think that 704 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.639 what they gave us last year in this year is really the seiling the ceiling 705 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:14.400 for this team as far as the composition of what this team's potentially is going 706 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.159 to be able to do. I still think there's an opportunity for them to 707 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:20.960 improve, especially with the down year that the Minnesota, with the Memphis Grizzlies, 708 00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:22.800 and you know, with some of these other teams that we're thinking are 709 00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:27.360 supposed to be in the throes of things. But part of it as well 710 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.760 too is whether or not is sustainable for this Minnesota Timberwolves team. You know, 711 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.960 So hopefully both of these teams, Clippers and Wolves, will be better 712 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.239 than they've shown. Um, I think the Wolves probably have more ceiling and 713 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.880 more faith in terms of just by being of hopefully being healthy. But these 714 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.199 are two really proud teams and franchises that should better than they showed you in 715 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.800 the Western Conference going into next season, for sure. All Right, well 716 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.199 said brother Well said, great show again on the docket this week, man. 717 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.320 I once again always appreciate the fact that you can help me. You 718 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:02.320 know what I'm saying, examine the dead with the brutal efficiency and effectiveness how 719 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.039 we do here in the baseline. So we'll see who's next up the winner 720 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.960 or the loser. Rather the Kings and UH Warriors areas will be definitely up 721 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.679 there. And then those ships talking Memphis Grizzlies, the last team the first 722 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.719 round. Somebody, somebody tell me, yeah, like you you amped out 723 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.679 ready to talk about them? Man, I mean personally, I'm just being 724 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.360 like Danny Green. They are who we thought they were. That's it. 725 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.719 Sometimes that sometimes that's a shame. So that is once again, we like 726 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:32.000 to thank you and yours for hopping off board with us this week for the 727 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:37.360 baseline. Kylie warren Shaw, we appreciate you guys. You know we do. 728 00:49:37.679 --> 00:50:00.480 We catch up with you next time. Inst