WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.839 Mister bo Keller here KF I am six forty. We're live everywhere on the 2 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:35.000 iHeartRadio app. It was seventeen years ago. Seventeen years ago, John McLean 3 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:41.679 and a young hacker, they joined forces to take down some master cyber terrorists 4 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:49.520 Thomas Gabriel played by Timothy Oliphant. Remember that Live Free or Die Hard? 5 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:56.600 The movie was seventeen years ago. Sometimes they say that art is imitating life, 6 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.000 or art proceeds what happens in life. And I'm not saying today we 7 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.239 suffered a terrorist attack. I am saying that if they wanted to do something 8 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:08.359 like that, it doesn't seem it'll be too hard. All you need to 9 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:14.480 do is infect every Windows computer and you will shut down the world. And 10 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:19.480 what's worse, Yes, I'm talking about the outage today, which had repercussions 11 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:25.079 all around the world. The strange thing for me is the call came from 12 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:30.799 inside the house. It wasn't a hacker, it wasn't a terrorist. It 13 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:37.120 was Microsoft's own security firm. And as far as I know, it had 14 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.840 to do with some software patch update something something something YadA YadA, YadA, 15 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.239 blah blah blah, and all hell started to break loose. We're talking about 16 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:52.799 nine to one one services. We're talking about airports, flights were grounded, 17 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:57.719 We're talking about sodom and gomorrah, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria. 18 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:05.159 Everything went to hell in a hand basket thanks to Microsoft's in how security 19 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:13.120 system. And it got me thinking, is this thin veneer of civilization that 20 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:17.520 thin? Is it that easy? And when I say easy, we're only 21 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:23.879 talking about a software patch update. We're not talking about some major brute force 22 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:30.400 attack on our grid. Going back to Live Free, Diehard? Is it 23 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:36.000 that simple? Is it that precarious where the whole system could come crashing down 24 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:42.960 if one thing, one domino fell? And I was never a believer in 25 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:49.000 Y two K, but after to after today, it makes me rethink about 26 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:54.919 how precarious a time in which we live, since we're so dependent on technology. 27 00:02:55.039 --> 00:03:00.319 It even affected us here. We had computers here at iHeartMedia. We're 28 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:05.879 not going to work at all due to the dreaded Microsoft outage. Now I've 29 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:13.039 never been a Microsoft fan for reasons just like today, but because Microsoft is 30 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:19.400 everywhere, it's almost impossible to avoid it in a personal or professional sense. 31 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:24.520 The computers here Microsoft, there's certain software which is only Microsoft. Now. 32 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.759 You may love or hate Bill Gates, but he was smart enough to know 33 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.879 that if he could get in early on the computer revolution and making sure that 34 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:38.000 businesses would have to have PCs, they would be everywhere. And this is 35 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:45.879 the end result of that. And I was thinking about how much disruption we 36 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:52.680 were dealing with. And I'm not saying that I believe or disbelieve everything which 37 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:57.479 is presented to us. I don't believe that there was actually a terrorist. 38 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.479 I'm not saying that I believe that there was some sort of outside influence. 39 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:04.800 I don't believe that we were attacked. But I don't necessarily believe that we 40 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.719 get all the information, especially when you're talking about vulnerabilities. I'm not gonna 41 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.560 tell us everything. They're not gonna tell us to what degree that we were 42 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.879 exposed. We're not gonna be told exactly how much damage was actually done. 43 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.399 But a reasonable person, I would like to think of myself as a reasonable 44 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:27.720 person. A reasonable person could look at today and be very very concerned about 45 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:32.360 our infrastructure. A reasonable person when you look at what has been happening in 46 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:39.120 Texas just because of Hurricane Beryl, and how that grid is still having problems. 47 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:43.240 When you think about what happened today with airline travel, not just here 48 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:49.040 but around the world. We're talking about a global tech outage because one little 49 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:56.399 thing didn't go right, one little thing, And you think, well, 50 00:04:56.480 --> 00:05:00.959 what happens if someone had bad intentions? What happens if someone looks at this 51 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:05.120 as not only an opportunity but something to follow up on. Now I know 52 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:09.439 the conspiracy theorist will say, oh, we had a dry run today just 53 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:14.279 to see how much have it they could wreak. Hey, oh maybe maybe 54 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.480 who knows? Who knows? But I do know that a lot happened today, 55 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:24.439 that nobody was prepared for. A lot happened today, that nobody as 56 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:30.920 of yet can give an adequate explanation for. If I told you that I 57 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:34.079 bricked my computer because I just turned it on today, you would say, 58 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.160 well, it shouldn't happen that way. You probably say, MO, there's 59 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:42.360 something missing from that equation. MO, there's something else that we must not 60 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.079 know. For you to just turn on a computer and it brick itself and 61 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.439 you don't know that means to brick it means that it is unusable. The 62 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:57.160 nation basically bricked itself. That's my point. The nation came to a standstill 63 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:03.600 in a technological sense, from airports from nine to one point one to all 64 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:14.279 sorts of services and businesses because of something supposedly seemingly minor but had major implications. 65 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:17.360 Will we get all the information? Probably not. I don't know, 66 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:24.560 because you can't tell exactly the world how you were vulnerable, to what degree 67 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:31.079 you were vulnerable, how much damage was incurred because of that vulnerability. Cybersecurity 68 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:35.360 firm CrowdStrike said that the issue believed to be behind the adage was not a 69 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:40.800 security incident or cyber attack. Oh that makes me feel better, But here's 70 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.519 what really bothered me. They said a fix was on the way. What 71 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.959 do you mean on the way? What does that mean? You know, 72 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.120 when I tell you know how a friend tells you, it's like, hey, 73 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.399 are you on your way? Yeah? And you know what that means. 74 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:54.360 They're not on their way. If they say what are you gonna get 75 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.920 here five minutes? That means thirty five? Where are you just around the 76 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.680 corner? No, that means miles and miles away. So when I read 77 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:05.519 that CrowdStrike is saying a fix was on the way, that means it's not 78 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:11.639 exactly on the way. The company said the problem occurred when it deployed a 79 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:18.160 faulty update to computers running Microsoft Windows. Was just about means every computer in 80 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:24.319 every company, with exception of maybe advertising where they use only Mac and Tosh. 81 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:28.560 The company's president and chief executive George Kurtz, posted a message where on 82 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:32.360 X because that's what we do, saying the issue was not a cyber attack 83 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.000 and has been fixed. Well, if it's been fixed, and why is 84 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.879 there a fix on the way, which is it? Which is it? 85 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.519 Because I look at some of the computers here, Twala, They're not back 86 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.279 to normal, are they? I don't think there are, So that means 87 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.480 it has not been fixed. The fix that is on the way has not 88 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:53.399 arrived. It's just around the corner. You know, they are only fifteen 89 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:59.399 minutes away. I'm just somewhat cynical. There were reports that airports had been 90 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:01.680 beginning to start the service, but it was unclear when we would get back 91 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:05.720 to normal. Yes, flights have resumed, but no, we are not 92 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.160 back to normal. He also added that the company system was completely shut down, 93 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.000 saying the resulting crippling of flight operations was worse than nine to eleven. 94 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.319 Did you hear that worse than nine to eleven. Maybe you're not old enough 95 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.720 to remember nine to eleven. I am. I remember how the whole world 96 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:31.040 had come to a stop. Yes, we were more focused on the terrorism 97 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:37.120 aspect, but the disruption was also very significant. And if it was worse 98 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:43.240 than nine to eleven, there is a parallel as far as why we should 99 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.440 be so very concerned. Yeah, I'm being a little bit flipping, but 100 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:52.480 I'm also being very serious. Because of a faulty patch as it's being described, 101 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:56.440 I don't know that's what it is. That's what we're told it is. 102 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.279 All this made him all this disruption because of a faulty patch, and 103 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:05.080 a fix was on the way, And it may be there where you are, 104 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.360 it may be to most places. Planes are now flying, so yes, 105 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.200 it is getting out there, but it's not everywhere. We're not back 106 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.960 to normal yet. And if someone with bad intentions was really paying attention, 107 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:22.000 and they are and they are, don't be surprised if you should see this 108 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.840 or something similar to it again in the future. How many times have we 109 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:33.279 seen airport disruptions because of software issues? Air quotes, be it Southwest Airlines 110 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.679 or Los Angeles International airport or some other airport. How many times are we 111 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:48.559 dealing with software issues, not terrorism, software issues. We are primed to 112 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:56.120 have our infrastructure attacked, and it doesn't seem like doesn't seem like we're ready 113 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.480 at all. It's Later with mo Kelly caf I AM six forty live everywhere 114 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.000 on the iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we have to have a 115 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:07.360 quick update on the Democrats, on the Republicans, the state of the presidential 116 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.639 race, and what the Democrats plan to do with President Joe Biden and what 117 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.840 President Joe Biden plans to do with himself. You're listening to Later with Moe 118 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:22.600 Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I got to tell you Democrats 119 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.279 of not having a real good month of July, not at all. But 120 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:33.000 it's not insurmountable. Nothing is forever. What has been happening is not determinative, 121 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.840 as I say, it's influential. It could have a great impact on 122 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.000 how this presidential election and also down ballot races may turn out. But it's 123 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:48.080 momentum, it's not an outcome. And I talk to people all the times 124 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.720 like there are other times in history where one party has been really behind in 125 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:56.159 the presidential race and then come back and win. We can look at nineteen 126 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:01.039 sixty eight where we had Hubert humph He was up by I want to least 127 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:07.159 say five or six points in July, right before the election. He had 128 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.679 I would say, the political benefit. Let me be clear, I'm not 129 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.919 saying it was a benefit, but I'm saying he had the win. That 130 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.759 is back from an emotional standpoint because of the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy 131 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:28.200 and Martin Luther King Junior. Those two incidents propelled the Democrats into the convention, 132 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:33.840 and they were leading in the polls, had public sentiment and public sympathy. 133 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:39.600 Hubert Humphrey ended up losing by more than one hundred and ten Electoral College 134 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:46.279 votes. You can talk about how Barack Obama was trailing in twenty twelve by 135 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.559 I want to say, five or six points in October, still ended up 136 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:56.360 winning the election. We can talk about any number of elections. We had 137 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.200 Hillary Clinton who was leading by double digits and then she and double digits around 138 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:07.399 right about now in July of twenty sixteen and then ended up losing that election. 139 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:13.679 All sorts of examples of what you see and what you feel in July 140 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:18.080 doesn't mean that the election itself is going to turn out a certain way. 141 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:22.320 But the Democrats are panicked. They are running around with the heads cut off 142 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:26.480 like the proverbial chicken, because they're reading the tea leaves and they see that 143 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.879 if what is happening today were to hold, Donald Trump would be elected president 144 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:39.320 once again. And they see with the numbers regarding Joe Biden, if he 145 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.840 were to continue to be the nominee, that most likely he loses. The 146 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:48.960 state data and the battleground states, the national polls all point to Donald Trump 147 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.759 likely winning. And it's one of those things where, well, we're not 148 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.879 going to see a better Joe Biden, or at least most people don't believe 149 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.720 that a better Joe Biden between now an election. And it's not just me 150 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.399 saying that. Some thirty Democrats have come forward and said publicly. When I 151 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.480 said publicly, we're not even talking about the people who are behind the whisper 152 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:15.799 campaigns privately, I'm just talking about publicly come forward and said they want Joe 153 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:20.039 Biden to step aside. Now step down the step aside and have the party 154 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.120 dominate someone else. And I've said this before, so I need to remind 155 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.639 folks it's it's not that simple. It's not that simple, because you risk 156 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:33.360 alienating the Democratic base. There are some fourteen million people who voted for Joe 157 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:39.200 Biden during the primaries who affirmatively said they want Joe to be the nominee for 158 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:45.039 better for worse, they chose him, and also by choosing him, they 159 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.799 were choosing Kamala Harris because they were voting on the ticket to remain as a 160 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:54.960 vice presidential candidate. And if you were to remove Joe Biden, you would 161 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.240 be saying to the Democratic voters your votes during the primaries didn't matter. And 162 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:05.000 then the party elites, quote unquote, the influencers, the people who have 163 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:09.240 a lot of pool from Nancy Pelosi to Haakim Jeffries to Barack Obama, maybe 164 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:15.559 even Hillary and Bill Clinton. You're saying that the small group of people are 165 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:20.960 wielding undue influence and you could switch out a nominee because they're afraid that the 166 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.720 person that people voted for can't win. And that may be true, it 167 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:30.759 may be true that Joe Biden can't win at this point, but you can't 168 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.000 then say, well, we're just going to disregard the primaries and just choose 169 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.639 someone else at the convention. I mean you could, you could, the 170 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:43.600 party bylaws allow for that, but the consequences of that means that you most 171 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:50.399 likely would piss off the Democratic coalition in such a way where they revolt against 172 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.000 the party or they stay home or both. There's a question of do you 173 00:14:54.080 --> 00:15:01.600 have someone leap frog over Kamala Harris, because remember she's a sitting vice president 174 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:07.799 and the understanding is if the president can't continue for whatever reasons, America had 175 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:13.399 chosen Kamala Harris's vice president to succeed the sitting president. And if you within 176 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:20.480 Democratic circles voted for Joe Biden Kamala Harris and you see them leapfrog someone over 177 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.039 Kamala Harris and you don't have her become the nominee again, all hell breaks 178 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.919 loose in the coalition fractures. Or you could look at it another way. 179 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.759 If you have Joe Biden step aside and then put his thumb on the scale 180 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:41.159 and say I want Kamala Harris to succeed me and she didn't go through the 181 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.759 primary process at the top of the ticket. That's going to leave Democratic voters 182 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.720 in as they say, feel in some kind of way. And then there's 183 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.799 the money aspect of all this. We're not sure how it plays out, 184 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.840 but we're pretty sure that the one hundred and twenty seven million dollars DOUS was 185 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:06.559 donated to the Biden Harris campaign is only available to a ticket which has either 186 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:11.799 Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or both. And if you remove Joe and you 187 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.519 remove Kamala Harris, then that one hundred and twenty seven million dollars reverts back 188 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:19.639 to the donors and it may not come back. And we can't win elections 189 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:25.159 in America, regardless of your political stripes without money. Thank you, Citizens 190 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:30.279 United, No money, no election. So that's what the Democrats are dealing 191 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:34.360 with. And I talked about this last week and I was kidding Mark Ronner 192 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.519 because I called it the Kobayashi Maru, which is a Star Trek reference, 193 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.799 of course, and that's the no win scenario. And for me, that's 194 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.360 the only way I can describe it, because the Democrats are having to choose 195 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.559 between the best of bad options. I say bad options because you never want 196 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:53.519 to change your candidate at the last second. That's never a great idea. 197 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:59.519 And if let's say you want to change the candidate for gret You Whitman. 198 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:03.639 I'm talking about names have been bandied about a Gretcha Whitmer or a Gavin Newsom. 199 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:10.319 Those people do not have the national name recognition or the backing that the 200 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:18.599 Biden Harris campaign does. You would be starting over in literally August for a 201 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:26.079 November election. That is a bad option. We can argue that Joe Biden 202 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:32.160 continuing as the candidate, the presidential candidate, would be a bad option given 203 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:37.359 what the polling says. And we don't know about his health status. He's 204 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.960 been diagnosed with COVID, Well, what does that mean? Does he have 205 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.599 long COVID? Does that keep him off the campaign trail for three weeks? 206 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.440 Does it keep him off the campaign trail for four weeks? If you've ever 207 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.440 had COVID or long COVID, it can stick with you for months. And 208 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:57.599 also it can be much much more severe for someone who's over the age of 209 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:03.640 eighty. That's just the name of being older. The simple even a simple 210 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:08.799 cold, can do all sorts of damage to an elderly person. These are 211 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:15.400 all options, all of them suboptimal, and the Democrats have to choose the 212 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:22.119 best available option. For a situation which it doesn't only impact the president and 213 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.519 vice president. We're talking about down ballot races. This could impact whether they 214 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.920 have any chance of retaking the House. This could impact whether they lose the 215 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:36.759 Senate. In a worst case scenario, the Democrats could lose the Oval Office, 216 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:41.640 not get back the House, and lose the Senate. And for all 217 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.519 the talk about Project twenty twenty five and all the talk about what Donald Trump 218 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:49.000 would do in a second term, well if the Democrats lose out on everything, 219 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:56.519 they would be completely incapable of mounting any type of defense on any Republican 220 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:02.400 or Donald Trump agenda. The things that the Democrats are worried about they have 221 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:07.200 to concern themselves with. And also even if they Donald Trump, if you 222 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:12.640 were to be re elected and were to put forth some executive action or executive 223 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:18.640 decision that some way find unconstitutional, well they can run it up the ladder 224 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.519 to a Supreme Court, which is going to rubber step anything. He says. 225 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:25.839 These are the considerations that the Democrats are going to have to make. 226 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:27.799 And I don't know what they're going to do. I heard all the public 227 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:33.839 reports just like you have, that Joe Biden may step aside this weekend. 228 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.559 I don't know that that is going to happen. We can talk about the 229 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.319 negative momentum which is being generated against him, where more and more politicians have 230 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:48.359 come out and said he needs to step aside. We can talk about the 231 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:53.240 published reports about how supposedly his family is sitting with Joe right now trying to 232 00:19:53.319 --> 00:20:00.000 decide about how they will move forward and gracefully bow out. I don't know 233 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.920 if any of that's true. It may be just wishful thinking. And if 234 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.119 you've been around politics long enough, you know that certain things are put in 235 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:12.400 the press to put pressure on someone in the hopes that they'll do something, 236 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:18.359 not a report of what they're actually intending to do. This is all what 237 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:21.920 the Democrats are dealing with this weekend. We'll have some more clarity next week, 238 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.839 but don't be surprised that President Joe Biden does not get out of the 239 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.599 race. For a number of reasons. They're just bad options and the Democrats 240 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.880 will have to make a decision. You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on 241 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:37.920 Demand from KFI A six forty. Let's go to the beach, or maybe 242 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:42.640 we shouldn't go to the beach. You know, we've been detailing how absolutely 243 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.799 putrid our beaches have been, and now there is more evidence to quantify just 244 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:56.200 how dirty La County beaches are. Specifically, in fact, two La County 245 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:03.960 beaches are among the most polluted in all of California. And that means we 246 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:08.319 need to find out who else is on the list of the most polluted beaches 247 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:15.599 here in California or close to California coming in at number ten of the most 248 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:22.319 polluted beaches as part of Heal the Bay's list, and Heal the Bay monitors 249 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.039 more than six hundred beaches along the West coast coming in at number ten, 250 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:36.079 and it's not actually California, but close enough. Alfaro, Baja Mexico, 251 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:47.400 number nine, Marina del Rey Mother's Beach, which is in La County, 252 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.759 Yes, of the most polluted beaches along the West coast California, coming in 253 00:21:52.799 --> 00:22:03.160 at number eight. Field State Park and that's in San Diego County. San 254 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:15.519 Diego checking in number seven of the most polluted beaches here in California. Hey, 255 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.119 San Diego County. Back to back, Imperial Beach at Seacoast Drive coming 256 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:30.680 in at number six, Lake Shore Park in San Mateo County. All right, 257 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:41.799 number five. Linna mar Beach, San Mateo County, back to back 258 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:52.000 number four. Never heard of this beach, probably pronouncing it wrong. Tijuana 259 00:22:52.279 --> 00:23:00.119 Slough sloth Sluff, San Diego County, coming in at number three of the 260 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:11.839 most polluted beaches here in California. Oh, this one is very close to 261 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.079 my heart. Santa Monica Pier, La County, Santa Monica Pier is a 262 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.880 great place to go shopping, great place to go walking. Not so sure 263 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.359 I would ever go into water for anything in Santa Monica Pier coming in at 264 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:36.200 number two. Playa Blanca in Baja Mehico White Beach, That's what it means. 265 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:44.039 And coming in at number one of the most polluted beaches here in California. 266 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.759 Just in case you wanted to get into the water this weekend, because 267 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.480 as Mark Ronner said, it's gonna be hat ha ha, And I know 268 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.759 you might be thinking about it. Why do I just go ahead and saunter 269 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:56.799 into the water. No, you don't want to do that, especially not 270 00:23:56.880 --> 00:24:18.839 at the number one most polluted beach here in California. Tiawater river Mouth in 271 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:23.359 San Diego County. I can say that I haven't been to just about any 272 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:29.039 of these beaches on the beach. I've been to the Santa Monica Pier, 273 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.079 I've been to Marina del Rey Mother's beach, But no, I haven't actually 274 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.240 been in the water. Elma, What was the last time you were actually 275 00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:42.079 in the water at the beach? Actually, I've been avoiding it because last 276 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:47.200 time I was at work here there was a story about the water being dirty. 277 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:51.000 Yes, we probably did it. Yeah, so like the last two 278 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:52.599 times I've been to the beach, I've avoided the water because of that. 279 00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:57.319 But that was this summer. But what about previous summers? Yeah, I 280 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:00.200 mean I'm not I'm not a strong swimmer, So I'm not going to jump 281 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:03.839 in the water. Oh not even from the Dominican Republic. I can get 282 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.680 in, but like after the waste, you know, like chess, I'm 283 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.359 not going to go further. Did you ever have formal swimming lessons? I 284 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.480 did not. Okay, let me recommend you hang out with Mark Ronner. 285 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:18.519 He's a lifeguard. He could probably help you out or try to save your 286 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.519 ass when you start drowning, one of the two. So I'll take that 287 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.160 off. I'm here to help. Yes, have you taught anyone how to 288 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:29.039 swim? Mark seriously. No, Well, no, I was. I 289 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.559 spent a couple summers as a child swim team coach while I was in college. 290 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.160 Okay, when I was a lifeguard, but that really doesn't count. 291 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.000 It was more like daycare and arguing with karen parents. Yeah, I've never 292 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.240 taught anyone how to swim, but I just remember from taking swimming lessons. 293 00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:51.279 It's a difficult thing to do with any kid over the age of maybe seven 294 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:52.440 or eight, it is. And I gotta tell you, I don't even 295 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.480 like swimming. I like the exercise, but swimming you can't feel yourself sweat, 296 00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.200 you breathe hard, you start to swallow water. I hate swimming. 297 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.160 See, I don't just like swimming. In fact, I like it from 298 00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:08.160 a rehab standpoint for injuries. Yeah, definitely some advantage, especially when you're 299 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.799 old men like we are and all your joints have been destroyed from sports over 300 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:17.039 the years. Yes, swimming is very helpful in some things. But you 301 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:19.119 know, add in the fact that you're going to be dodging pooh in the 302 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.160 water here, I just can't recommend. No, no, no, I'm 303 00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.319 not talking like a public pool or a public beach. I'm talking about it 304 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:29.559 like a swimming pool in my backyard. That's what I would want. I 305 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.599 would like to be able to just work out in a pool. Swim some 306 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.519 swim, some laps, do some side stroke, backstroke, deep stretching in 307 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.079 the pool, which is always good on the body. That's all I would 308 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.880 want. Yeah, I've been a lifeguard at a big a pool in the 309 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:51.359 terrible part of town where I had to take knives away from kids. And 310 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.720 I've been a lifeguard at a pool in the nice part of town where again 311 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:59.240 the Karens and not sure which one I like better. Say, See, 312 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.799 I can't work a job if I don't have a gun and I have to 313 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.839 take knives and stuff from people. I mean, otherwise, like a school 314 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:08.880 teacher, they have to do it. But you know, you know, 315 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.559 if you're in the moment and you're hardwired, with enough training, you're not 316 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.519 going to be that concerned about a knife with a kid. No, no, 317 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:17.920 no, it's not about being concerned. I'm just saying, it's just 318 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:22.880 one of those things where like put it this way, I confident I can 319 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.880 deal with a knife. I don't want to deal with it at my job. 320 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.680 That's all I'm saying. So you're saying I shouldn't draw down on you 321 00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.599 here. I would hope that any job I go to, it should not 322 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.160 be a reasonable expectation that I may be confronted with a knife. Well, 323 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.440 times have changed since I was a lifeguard, because I'd probably be dealing with 324 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.319 guns. Now you're be dealing with guns. Most definitely. That's why I 325 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.160 try to leave people alone. You never know how bad a day someone is 326 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.119 having. You don't know how stupid someone is. You don't know how desperate 327 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:59.640 someone is, You don't know how poor judgment someone may have. And for 328 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.440 you, you would never think of taking it there. They're just an idiot 329 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:06.960 and looking for a reason to take it there. Oh, and the stakes 330 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.799 are so much higher on pretty much every interaction slash conflict you have. Like 331 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.119 if I were to yell at a kid now, hey, you know, 332 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:17.960 cut out the jumping up and down on the diving board. Yeah, you 333 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:19.559 don't know if they'd come up behind you later and be like what do you 334 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.359 say to me? Right? Because everything is a confrontation. Yeah, everything 335 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:30.960 is a confrontation. And for as much as I like verbal confrontations, I'm 336 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.720 not seeking out actual confrontation. And sometimes life just puts it in front of 337 00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.279 you and you have to deal with it. That's fine, whatever, But 338 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.519 it shouldn't be a confrontation when I'm at Target. It shouldn't be a confrontation 339 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.000 when I'm at the girlcery store. It should be a confrontation. When I'm 340 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.359 trying to back into a parking space. Everything is a confrontation now. Everything 341 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.920 is up to a ten. Now. If we could just kind of take 342 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.680 it back to like a five or six, that'd be great. But I 343 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:56.640 don't know how we're going to do that. I don't know. See, 344 00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.079 that's the thing. I don't know. It's almost it's like after you lose 345 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.119 that innocence, I don't know how you work your way back to it. 346 00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:11.160 Because we have generations of people or young people who've grown up believing that that 347 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.440 is normal, and I don't know how you get away from that. Well. 348 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:19.519 One way is that we have a country that's absolutely flooded in devices that 349 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:26.599 allow people act on their impulses immediately and irrevocably. And if you were to 350 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.799 regulate that a little bit more than we have, you wouldn't have to worry 351 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.920 about, you know, getting shot when you so much as looked at somebody 352 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:37.200 The wrong way or gave them the finger on the road. I'm wondering to 353 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.160 whom you're referring. So, in other words, take everyone's phone away and 354 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.319 kill the internet. Just just stay indoors, don't go anywhere, don't do 355 00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:45.480 anything, just listen to the radio. Kind of like what you do. 356 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.599 You stay indoors and go anywhere and you're on the radio. Yeah, yeah, 357 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.960 like a hobbit. That's I just stay in my hole. KFI AM 358 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.200 six forty we're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And speaking of the violence 359 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.319 that we see in everyday community, let's tell you about a deadly samurai sword 360 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.359 attack. You know, just another day in southern California. You're listening to 361 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:11.400 Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. I'm not making 362 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.960 light of this. I think it highlights the degree of violence here in California, 363 00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.680 Southern California. But when I look at the headline and it says that 364 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.880 a domestic dispute in southern California ends in deadly samurai sword attack, I just 365 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.519 kind of nod my head and say, yeah, that pretty much makes sense. 366 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:36.119 This does look like some sort of an argument between three female family members, 367 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.759 but at this point what caused it to turn violence suddenly we don't know, 368 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:44.960 but the fact that the two survivors only speak Mandarin Chinese is slowing the 369 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.279 investigation. A woman walks along Huntington Avenue here in San Dimas with a sword 370 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.519 in her hand. Her legs appear to be cut, a trail of blood 371 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.640 behind her on the sidewalk. Sheriff's deputies, then, responding to what they 372 00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:02.559 think is a rescue call, roll up on the woman near a rental van 373 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.640 in the street and tell her to drop the sword. That female then directs 374 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.839 them to a residence on the street, where the deputies find an additional female 375 00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:18.240 suffering also from lacerations, who was later pronounced dead at the scene, and 376 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.680 as they continue through the residence, an additional female was found in the residence, 377 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:26.279 unharmed, who was also transferred to a local hospital due to a medical 378 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.680 emergency. We understand that that may have been a heart attack, but what 379 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.240 prompted this deadly struggle between at least two of what police are describing as Chinese 380 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.640 women is unknown. Preliminary investigations suggests there may be a family relation, but 381 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.680 again, because of the language barrier, we have not confirmed. That a 382 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.519 little bit uneasy because I don't know what's going on. Local residents who were 383 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:53.640 kept from returning to their homes near the crime scene are understandably shaken, shocked, 384 00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.680 surprised. So, yes, it doesn't happen in this neighborhood. I 385 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.519 mean you see it in the in the news and other places, but just 386 00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.119 shocked it happened so close. No one else was wounded by the sword, 387 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:12.960 and detectives say there is no further threat to this local community. Okay, 388 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.200 you often hear that, you know, shocked. I can't believe that this 389 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.519 happened in this neighborhood. Is a quite nice, quiet neighborhood. YadA yah 390 00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:24.680 yah blah blah blah uh until it's not. My thing that stood out to 391 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:31.279 me is never in any community has there been a samurai sword attack. That's 392 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.000 not something that happens any When you say I can't believe that happened in my 393 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.759 community, like this happened somewhere else, Yeah, I know, Like, 394 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.839 yeah, I expect this to happen in South Central like they just walk around 395 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.599 with samurai swords all in the hood. What is being said here? Look, 396 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.599 when you want to deliver a personal message, then you would use a 397 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.000 samurai sword. You know, that's real, real personal. That's the only 398 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:57.720 thing that makes sense to me. You have a Samurai sword and there's family 399 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.119 involved. Yeah, this sounds real ill, real personal. I'm not going 400 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.319 to speculate on the who, what, why, where, when, and 401 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.799 how what led up to it? Who's at fault? But look, if 402 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.359 you're reaching for a samurai sword, there's anger behind that. It's not like 403 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:19.640 it's not like a weapon of opportunity that was you went for that. That's 404 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:22.079 like the family sword. Yeah, you know, like it's in the house, 405 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.160 it's prominently displayed, probably up on the mantle. Yeah. Yeah, 406 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:28.920 yeah, you didn't go for a kitchen knife. You didn't go for a 407 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.799 state knife. You went for a samurai sword because you're trying to maim and 408 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.880 disfigure, which is real, real personal nature. Or at least that's the 409 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:42.400 way I anticipated. That's the only way I could read it. Yeah, 410 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:45.680 because look, if I were to, if I wanted to hurt someone in 411 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.000 that way, it's almost like, when we get the story, I know 412 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.759 it's going to have to be somebody's man is in that some more relationship, 413 00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.920 Someone cheated on somebody with a family member. It has to be something that's 414 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:06.279 real personal. See. I took it as maybe fighting over inheritance and someone 415 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.800 went to go get grandfather's sword and I'll show you. Oh you think it's 416 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:14.840 money. Oh, I think it's a relationship. Hmmm, Mark, what 417 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.920 do you think money? Relationship or something else? I think you guys have 418 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:24.760 watched too many cop shows on TV. Hey, audible is real. My 419 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.400 late friend Andrew Vax, the crime writer, used to refer to Law and 420 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:34.199 Order SVU as a sitcom. No, they're not real. I thought they 421 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.280 were based on like ripped from the headlines. Okay, but this is real. 422 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.519 The samurai sword is real. The violence was real. It is, 423 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.760 but I think it's turned a lot of home viewers with no credentials or expertise 424 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:52.360 into like armchair. Oh it was a bladed. It was a knife, 425 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.440 So this means it was something personal because you have to be up close to 426 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.719 the person, you have to make eye contacts. Well, that's what you 427 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.360 do. The bladed you can't kill with. The samurai saw it from across 428 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.440 the room. They didn't throw it. Yeah, we don't know. I'd 429 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.079 like to find out more about it, but as far as i'm concerned. 430 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.800 It's a mishone in the Walking Dead thing. Oh but we're making fun of 431 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:20.599 that. Oh it's us. It us is watching too much Law Order SVU 432 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.280 as you and the Walking Day. That's exactly right. If you stick to 433 00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:27.159 the zombie shows, that'll answer all your questions. Got it, CA If 434 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.320 I Am six forty were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app, it's hard to keep 435 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.760 track of everything that's going on. 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