WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.120 Hey, everybody, this is Less Striving. Yes, yes, I know 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:30.000 aka Surviving Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Odys. Hey guys, 3 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.840 and welcome back to Sasquatch Odessey. Thank you so much for clicking play. 4 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:36.479 It is Wednesday. I hope you guys are having a great week if 5 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.119 we have an amazing show lined up for you. But before we get there, 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.280 I want to start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and 7 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:44.799 you'd like to be on the show, shoot me an email you get me 8 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.280 a Brian at Parentimal World Productions dot com. Get head over to the website, 9 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:52.399 check it out, become remember there and help support the show. You 10 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:56.840 guys may be tuning in to hear the latest chapter of dog Man Terror in 11 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.719 the Woods, but we're not doing that today. We're doing something a little 12 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.719 different. I get asked often to come on other podcasts as a guest, 13 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.599 and I really do enjoy having those kind of conversations because it gives me an 14 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.319 opportunity to sort of let my hair down, if you will, and do 15 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.439 something a little bit different, And in addition to just being a whole lot 16 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:17.200 of fun for me, it also allows me to highlight some of these great 17 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:21.760 podcasts out there and some of these great podcasters that are doing some phenomenal stuff. 18 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.000 Encryptids of the Corn with Jay and Justin is no exception to that. 19 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.159 These guys are super smart, they're super funny, and they're really fun to 20 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.040 hang out with. We had a great conversation. It starts a little heavy 21 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:34.959 in the beginning because we're talking about a hoaxer and it was sort of fresh 22 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:38.159 on my mind, so I was a little bit bent out of shape about 23 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.319 it. And then we get into all kinds of things. We talk about 24 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.120 the Patterson Gimlin film, we talk about the Sasquatch archives, We get into 25 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.920 all kinds of stuff. It was a really, really good conversation. If 26 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.959 you don't already listen to those guys, look up Cryptids to the Corn on 27 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:53.040 whatever podcast app you're listening on and give those guys a listen. I think 28 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.359 you'll really enjoy what you hear with that. I am putting together chapter nine 29 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.319 of dog Manter in the Woods that will probably be out next Wednesday, if 30 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.760 not this weekend, I don't know. We may do something a little different 31 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:07.319 and post that on Sunday, but stay tuned for that it is coming. 32 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.759 But for now, I know you guys are ready to go. I'm ready 33 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:12.319 to get into it. Jane Justin are ready to go. So I'm gonna 34 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.520 let the music play. You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the show. 35 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:38.400 Hello, Hello, and welcome back. Decryptis of the Corn Podcast. 36 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:43.840 I am the Great and Powerful Mystery and I am the Infamous Jay Today. 37 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:49.400 Oh it's not just us today, Jay, who are we with? We 38 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.680 are joining today with our special guest Brian from Sasquatch Odyssey. Welcome Brian. 39 00:02:54.719 --> 00:03:00.520 What's up fellas? Haven't seen y'all a month the Sundays and I'm Sundays. 40 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:04.319 No, thank you for covied on. Everybody at home doesn't realize just like 41 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:07.439 I slept until right when, like Brian was already in the little chat room. 42 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:13.599 Then the broadcaster stopped working and then I exited off of everything, and 43 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.159 so he's been great, but he's been patient. It's been fifteen minutes or 44 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.400 trying to get this rolling. Very patient. I think you're still like I'm 45 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.960 pretty drunk. Yeah, I think so. But the green room is so 46 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:25.159 nice. You guys had it set up with the colorful eminem's Like I like 47 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:30.560 you had the champagne, which just I've just been chilling man like like VPP 48 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.639 style. I love it. We even took all the blue Eminem's out for 49 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.919 you, just as you requested. I'm glad that they sent that over as 50 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.919 a prerequisite. Have you ever heard that story? I have? It was 51 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:46.039 Okay, I forget who it was. I think it was, Oh, 52 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:50.080 the guy that it's not Aeronsmith, the lead singer that literally sings a song. 53 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:52.719 Dude looks like a lady. But Steven Tyler. What band is that? 54 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:55.199 I think is that band? But Steven Tyler brand? I can't remember. 55 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:58.719 Way, it's a way too roways to be thinking about all. Yeah, 56 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.000 I know it's my gears are so the hamster wheels so warming up. 57 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:05.240 Kyler looks like a lady. Yeah, now that's that's he does. Yes, 58 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.879 now, Brian, what you please do all this stuff and tell everybody 59 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.120 where to find your stuff and all that good stuff. I haven't heard of 60 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:15.960 Sasquatch Odyssey by now, and you are listening to us. I don't know 61 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.759 what you did because you pass some big shows to get over here. Yes, 62 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:24.519 Squatch Odyssey is everywhere you can find podcast. Yeah, I do the 63 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:28.240 Sasquatch Odyssey podcast. I do quite a few shows. We have a the 64 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.839 Paranormal World Productions Network has a ton of shows. We have the Sasquatch Odyssey, 65 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.959 we have a Paranormal Odyssey, True Crime Odyssey, and we've added a 66 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:40.439 couple of more shows. We've got the guys from the Kentucky X Files and 67 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.600 the Basement hang Out just joined the family a couple of days ago. We 68 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:46.920 made that announcement on the show. So we've got a little bit of everything 69 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.759 for everybody. We've got a full network of shows, but any of them 70 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:54.680 you can find YouTube. We've got a Sasquatch Odyssey YouTube page. That's really 71 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.040 the only show Pandorm Waysse has. It's on YouTube as well, but primarily 72 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.160 anywhere you get your audio podcast, anywhere you listen to the Cryptids of the 73 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.120 Corn, you can find us. So perfect. Yeah awesome, But yeah 74 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.199 we met will we meet you in person? In? Was it? North 75 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.360 Carolina? Right? North Carolina? And that was a lot of fun. 76 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.279 That was a hell of a drive for us. Oh yeah, it was. 77 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:15.879 Well, yeah, what state are you out of? I don't know. 78 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.319 We ever said we got to talk about that. Yeah, I live 79 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:20.360 in North Carolina. I was born and raised in Georgia, but we're in 80 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:25.639 North Carolina now, the metropolis of Lenore, North Carolina. That sounds like 81 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:30.480 the mega city of eight Ohio. Yeah, that's like a population. We 82 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:32.560 did to have a college would be like a population and like the double digits. 83 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:38.519 Well that that well, come on, if the college disappeared, that's 84 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.720 like your family and my family. Yeah, yeah, enough to make the 85 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.800 plastic back. I tell everybody we're near Boone, North Carolina, where Appalachian 86 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.160 State is. Most people know where app State is, so we're about forty 87 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:54.639 Yeah, it's from there. So oh my gosh, oh careful, sorry, 88 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:58.240 things are popping up. The screen was getting dark. Oh gosh. 89 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.480 No, but yeah, thank you once again for coming on. Jay, 90 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.680 you go ahead. So just to get things started, I mean, we've 91 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:08.959 noticed things on your social media and posts that have been going around lately, 92 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.639 and we wanted to we wanted to kind of bring up that topic. There's 93 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:18.000 a photo going around recently of an alleged pair of sasquatches. I've first seen 94 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.000 it posted on your social media, and I think maybe just that's where I 95 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.519 seen it, Yeah, because I think the first one I've seen those the 96 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.240 one where you politely said, like, hey guys, I've been sent this 97 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.920 like sixteen times or something like that, and I'm like, I get that, 98 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.360 Like literally people will send us the same video like I mean, quite 99 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.319 a nice. It's nice. It's just it's like people don't realize that, 100 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:42.600 like, Okay, you're the thirty second person in an hour that's send this. 101 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:45.879 But we appreciate it, but it's hard to respond to everybody. Oh 102 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:50.560 yeah, absolutely, So I just wanted to ask you about when evidence and 103 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:55.560 photographic evidence is brought forward and we get to see something. Yeah, that's 104 00:06:55.560 --> 00:07:00.720 pretty special because you know, pictures of Sasquatcher fairly rare, you know, 105 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.800 especially authentic ones. So this one that was posted to your social media, 106 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.360 it's created quite a little bit of buzz, i'd say recently, but I 107 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:13.279 think we have some opinions about it. Yeah, I definitely do. Man, 108 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.399 When it first popped up, well, this guy sort of popped up 109 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.639 on my radar a couple of years ago with some of the audio stuff that 110 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:23.279 was being posted, and people were sending me that and I just you know, 111 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:25.759 I took a lesson to it and it was just ridiculous to me. 112 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:29.360 It was almost laughable. So I just moved on and didn't really think about 113 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.079 it, and then this picture kept popping up over the last I don't know, 114 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:35.800 six or seven days. I think the first person I really saw talking 115 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.639 about it was Steve Calls on his channel. Steve kind of did a little 116 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.800 quick four or five minute breakdown. It was a very simple and straightforward to 117 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.040 me that this was not an authentic picture of any sasquatch. It was a 118 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:51.120 mask. Yeah, before it started going all screwy. All right, and 119 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.480 we're back. I don't know, I'll leave this in for the technical difficulties 120 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.680 update, but the road cast or two pro just died, so we're going 121 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.759 back to old faithful. Hopefully you can still hear us. And it's not 122 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:05.079 the computer that's dying. Yes, everything sounds good, all right. So 123 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.519 we were just taught starting to get into that thing that that mask that looked 124 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:13.000 like two trash cans that were shoved together with some plexic take. It just 125 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:18.439 looked horrible. That's the mask looked awful. What was it like a master 126 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.279 froom party city. Let me let me pull it up while you guys talk 127 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.240 for a second, because it's just if you've seen it, yeah, yeah, 128 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.240 yeah, I saw it on our Well, I think I think you 129 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:30.120 shared it. I may have shared it to ours from his Yeah, but 130 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:31.559 I remember when it first popped up. I was like, hmm. And 131 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.159 then Brian, I believe I saw you change the rest or the brightness of 132 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.200 it. You said, right, yeah, I lightened it up. It 133 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.600 took five seconds to lighten it up on my iPhone and it was even more 134 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.080 apparent at that point that this was a mask. So I went to the 135 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.639 YouTube channel the guy who shared it, and he did this video, and 136 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.600 literally like four minutes and thirty seconds into the video, he's talking about how 137 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:00.720 if you don't believe this is a sasquatch, you're not enlightened and you just 138 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:05.279 don't understand and blah blah blah, typical hoax or stuff. Right, So 139 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:11.440 then he says, feel free, everybody go look scour the internet. You're 140 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.240 not going to find a mask like this, right, you know, My 141 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.000 cop brain went off and I'm thinking, Ay, if this is legit, 142 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.000 why why are we talking about looking on the internet for a mask and telling 143 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.559 people they're not going to find it either. A, You're very confident nobody's 144 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:28.759 going to find a mask like this because it's a real sasquatch, or you 145 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:35.759 know that this mask was changed altered, You've done something to this to make 146 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.080 it unique enough to where nobody's going to be able to just post a link 147 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.919 to say, hey, here's the exact mask that this guy used. Right. 148 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.639 And then you know when I posted it on and I polastered it in 149 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.480 a lot of big foot groups. Right, I'm in probably six year big 150 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.200 foot groups, and I just plastered it everywhere because I wanted to people to 151 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.320 understand that this guy needs to be called of the carpet for what he's doing. 152 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:01.279 Right. It's not my job to do that. I don't typically do 153 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.720 that a lot. I famously have called Todd standing out over and over and 154 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.759 over over the last couple of years, and to the point I'd get emails 155 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:11.039 to for my listeners say and stop giving this guy, you know, any 156 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.399 credit at all on your show and talking about it. But I think it's 157 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.799 important because Todd has a ton of followers. This guy has a ton of 158 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:22.600 followers. He's got seventy one thousand subscribers on his YouTube channel that are eating 159 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.080 the stuff up and go I go into the comments and look at the comments, 160 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:31.000 and it's like oh, please tell Neff that we said thank you for 161 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.399 finally showing his face. And I'm like, are you been able delusion on 162 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.840 it? Like this is unbelievable that these people are not only buying into this, 163 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:45.639 but they are They're just worshiping at this guy's feet and this is clearly 164 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.840 crap. So yeah, he started commenting, and you know, he got 165 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:52.240 a little heated in this comments with me. He's saying, you know, 166 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.480 it's all real, you just don't understand it. You're not enlightened. You've 167 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.279 never seen one, so you don't understand. And I was like, yeah, 168 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.240 dude, I think you're full of crap. Why don't you come on 169 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.240 the show and let's talk about it. If you want to have a real 170 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.039 conversation, let's not do it over Facebook comments. Come on the show and 171 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.879 let's have a conversation about it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I'll 172 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.759 be the first to admit I don't think I am. But if you can 173 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.879 convince me otherwise, then I give you the platform to do it. Of 174 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.919 course, it was immediately You're throwing out tide standing and inviting him on the 175 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:24.360 show is just you know, you're just trying to bait me in and I 176 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.840 don't have time to talk to people who call me hoaxers. And I was 177 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.440 like, well, you should probably make time because there's a lot of people 178 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.519 calling you hoaxers and calling you a hoaxer. And if you're not, then 179 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:37.960 come on to defend your position. And of course he's not going to do 180 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:43.000 that because he can't control the narrative. Right, There's a big difference between 181 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.919 talking over Facebook messages and actually speaking in person, big time difference. Yeah, 182 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.159 there's a lot of keyboard vigilantes, but when you want to get face 183 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.720 to face, even through a computer screen and have a conversation, they tend 184 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.919 to go away. They're not there anymore. Yeah, it's funny how that 185 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.000 works. Yeah, it's like people are too scared to get punched in the 186 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:07.840 face anymore. I don't know if you can that. That's the computer, 187 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.320 Like people will say everything they want through the computer. Oh then in person. 188 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.240 Yeah, then in person, that's what I'm saying. I'm sorry, 189 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.080 my brain is melting. But yeah, it's like all these like there's a 190 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.799 lot of I know a lot of people like that. They'll just say there's 191 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:22.720 that safety net with being in the internet, Like I never have to leave 192 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.759 this room. Now, I can tell everybody I've seen all of this stuff, 193 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:28.879 and I can tell everybody this is how it works. And anybody tries 194 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.360 to fight me, I can just block them and report them and yell call 195 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:35.000 you call them bad names. And well, like Brian said, control and 196 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:39.720 you're controlling the narrative. Yeah, yeah, So what do you think this 197 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:46.159 kind of does for the Sasquatch community, these kind of hoaxes. Well, 198 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.919 it's the same thing with everything. It sets us back because there are tons 199 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.399 of people who believe that's real. So say somebody goes out tomorrow and gets 200 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.559 a photograph of a real Sasquatch that's close up, like this guy's purporting this 201 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.399 to be and it doesn't look like that. Those people who are bought into 202 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.759 that narrative are gonna say, no, this guy's stuff is real. What 203 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:09.879 you're presenting is not, and this is a fake and it's not. It's 204 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.200 kind of the same thing with the Todd Standing stuff. The best thing we 205 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.159 had, in my opinion, was two things. We had the Paterson Gimblin 206 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.600 film in sixty seven, and we have the Paul Freeman footage from ninety two, 207 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.960 and those are pretty compelling in and of themselves, right, and people 208 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:30.080 are still debating that we're actually I'm speaking at a conference in Idaho in August 209 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:35.000 and me Cliff Bragman, doctor Jeff Meldrum, I think we've got some other 210 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:37.559 people. I don't want to say, we're still in the works of getting 211 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.480 folks there, but we're gonna have a little round table and talk about the 212 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.720 Freeman footage, because it's still even after all these years, we're talking about 213 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:48.799 it. But you see that, and it's really good footage. And then 214 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.559 fast forward into the early two thousands, I think it was, here's Todd 215 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:56.600 Standing bursting on the scene and he comes out with these videos that he's posting 216 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:03.519 of HD quality super high definition, zoomed in pictures of what he purports to 217 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.679 be a Sasquatch. Now there's one hundred plus thousand people on his YouTube channel 218 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:13.480 seeing those. They're seeing this Discovering Bigfoot documentary, and then that becomes the 219 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:18.720 new standard for anybody who's out there researching Sasquatch and bringing evidence forward. There 220 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:20.559 are tons of pictures out there, there are tons of videos out there. 221 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.799 I believe that people have captured at these things that will never see the light 222 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:30.240 of day, because it's not hdequality, right, it doesn't look like what 223 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.919 Todd's presenting a sasquatch, and we'll never see it. So he set the 224 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:39.320 President and the bar so high with a hoax because I don't believe for a 225 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.399 second those are real sasquatching any of those videos. I don't believe it at 226 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.000 all. And of course the first thing that happens with everybody when you talk 227 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.480 about this stuff is prove the hoax. Prove it. Where's the mask? 228 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:52.600 Where's the link to the mask. And I'm like, dude, I'm on 229 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.960 Facebook fighting with people way too much time. I'll admit I went down the 230 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.919 rabbit hole, you know, going to the toe with this dude. I 231 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.960 gave it way too much of my time. But I'm passionate about it because 232 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.759 it sets everybody in this community who tries to do this seriously way back. 233 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:13.200 But that's the thing that everybody comes up with. The people who buy it, 234 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.600 and I say it all the time, people cringe, but they're drinking 235 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:18.759 the koolaid, right, They're drinking the Jim Jones koolaid. There's always people 236 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:22.600 out there who want to who want the drink, right, And he's got 237 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.519 these people hooked in hook line and sinker. They're the ones coming out and 238 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.679 defending him, saying, prove the hoax. If you can't prove the hoax 239 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:35.759 by showing me the mask, then everything you're saying is false. You can't 240 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:37.480 prove it any more than he can prove that it's real. And I'm like, 241 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.879 okay, if you can take a look at the totality of the evidence, 242 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:43.559 and you can look at the photograph and you can see the lightened version 243 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.639 I did. There's other people that have done complete our videos breaking this down, 244 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:54.200 showing where these two photographs that we're talking about is actually supposed to be 245 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.399 the same thing, taking just seconds apart. That's the other part of the 246 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.919 story. You see those two images together. But he claims that this Dwayne 247 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.799 guy or whoever sent him the pictures, took one just stepped out of the 248 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:10.759 back of his house for whatever reason and just decided to take this random photo 249 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.440 of this random fence with a blanket and a shovel on it. He takes 250 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.159 a couple of pictures in sequence, and he didn't notice anything, and then 251 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.840 he looks back later and here they are. And he's had these photographs for 252 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:26.200 three years, and just recently the Sasquatch told him that he can post the 253 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:30.200 pictures. It's okay for you to post my face now. It wasn't three 254 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.559 years ago, but now all of a sudden, I'm ready for my cameo. 255 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.159 I'm ready for my close up. Mister Demil, post my photographs. 256 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.840 I think you might have wrote it on a chalkboard. I'm not really sure 257 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:42.600 how that happened or if you got it tell me ethically, but you got 258 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.840 all this stuff going on. And if those people can look at that and 259 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:52.120 look at the photograph and really study the nuances and the missing there's missing artifacts 260 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.480 that are there in one photograph and then a second later, the shovel's over 261 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.200 here, the blankets over here, the plug that was down here is no 262 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.640 longer in the photograph, all these things. If you can look at that 263 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:07.839 in totality and say, I believe that that's a real size squatching, I 264 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.759 believe that he is telling the truth and it's not a hoax, then there's 265 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.640 no conversation to be had with you. There's nowhere to go with that, 266 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.640 right, I agree, because it's just it's just blind just blindness with it. 267 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.039 But though I don't blame the Sasquatch for not wanting to have his picture 268 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.839 shared there for a while just yew ugly it was. Yeah, I know 269 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.880 that receding hairline is what I got me. Man, Oh my gosh. 270 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:33.119 The fur is like a straight like it's almost like it's a big plastic piece 271 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.200 shoved under the front of a of a hoodie. Yeah. And again I 272 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:42.880 went down the rabbit hole and I searched for there's probably fifty pages open in 273 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:48.359 my browser looking for a mask that could have been altered enough to look like 274 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:51.720 that. And I mean I found some retro mass from way back in the 275 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.000 day that were on eBay for like eighty ninety bucks that were similar that could 276 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.359 have been altered. You know. Some of them might have even been sprayed 277 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:00.559 with some paint. I don't know how I did it, and frankly, 278 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.680 I don't care. It's just so obvious. Some things are so obvious. 279 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.359 You know. Somebody posted a really good comment that I've I've reused and sort 280 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.720 of took. It's one of those things where if you have two dogs standing 281 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:15.839 there and one of them is at Chihuahua, and one of them is a 282 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.319 great Dane, do I really have to prove to you that the chihuahua isn't 283 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.640 a great Dane or is it just obvious looking at it? Right? Do 284 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:26.000 we have to do the DNA of the dog to say that's at chihuahua, 285 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.880 that's a great Dane and this is a stuffed animal. No, you don't. 286 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.519 You just have to be intellectually honest and say I looked at that, 287 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:37.880 it's clearly fake and just move on. But people just seem to They get 288 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:41.559 stuck in the minutia of what they want to believe, and they buy into 289 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.759 this guy. That's the other thing. I know him. He's so genuine, 290 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:52.079 he's so caring, he's so sincere. Well, every hoaxer out there 291 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.319 is you have to be. They have to be just as passionate as I 292 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:00.240 am on the other side of the fence about what I believe to be the 293 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.359 right stance and just wanting real stuff put out there. Let's have a real 294 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.319 conversation, Let's be honest, let's approach this from this, use the scientific 295 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.559 method, use some critical thinking. I'm passionate about that. On that side, 296 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.200 the hoaxers have to be ten times more passionate to draw people in. 297 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.559 How did people sell the snake oil back in the day. They were very 298 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:25.200 passionate about everything that it cured right. It was completely one bs. But 299 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.599 you're not going to buy it from them if they're not selling. If they're 300 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.599 not selling, you on them first. And that's what hoaxers do, and 301 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:34.119 he's very good at it. He's very sincere. I can watch those videos 302 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:38.480 and say, wow, I can see why people buy into that. But 303 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:42.680 then once you have something like a photograph, you know, the audio stuff 304 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.880 is obviously to me it's laughable. But to a lot of people they're like, 305 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.640 I don't know what a sasquatch sounds like. I've never heard one talk, 306 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.319 so that could be a sasquatch talking, and it's sinceres he is. 307 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:56.200 I see the buy in. But when you have something that's physical evidence, 308 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.880 it's tangible. It is a photograph that can be looked at. It's very 309 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:03.559 simple. You can do it with your iPhone. Just lighten it up and 310 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.759 you see that that's not real. It is not a living, breathing creature 311 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.839 of any kind. It is a static object. It is a inanimate object. 312 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:15.480 It is a mask. Stay tuned for more Sasquat Jobsy woman. Right 313 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:22.720 back after these messages, to the point where it's not the arm that he 314 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.880 says is laying up on the fence for his close up, it's the freaking 315 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.640 material that goes with the rest of the suit that's laying under the head of 316 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:34.960 this mask. It's just laughable to me. I do like to imagine though, 317 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:40.279 that one's just sitting there posting up, posing for the cameras this one 318 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:45.000 time. I want that actual, authentic Yeah. No, It's like, 319 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.960 I think why those people get so big is because there's people. There's so 320 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:52.960 many, so many people, more people than most people realize that have had 321 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.799 the flashing counter, that have had that one little, one thing and they 322 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.440 see something that they can't explain one time, and then they go to some 323 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.119 people like that and they see the showmanship, they see all that, and 324 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.000 they're like, oh, okay, I don't feel that's crazy because everybody else 325 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:08.960 is seeing them like they're they're common, they're out there, they're doing this, 326 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:15.000 and I think that's why people that claim to see them constantly or have 327 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.119 that kind of you know, content or whatever, that's why they get big 328 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.240 like that. This is because there's so many people. Like you go to 329 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:25.920 conferences, We go to conferences and you have at least once a conference, 330 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:29.079 some guy or some lady come in. They don't want to be there, 331 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.119 and you know, and they just they want confirmation that they're not insane for 332 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:33.960 what they see in the woods or what they see on the side of the 333 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:38.279 road at night. And then they leave and then they just go and then 334 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.440 then eventually they go down the YouTube rabbit hole and they hit stuff like this 335 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.359 like, oh, okay, I'm fine. I only had the one little 336 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:48.279 encounter. These people are seeing them every night. You know, they're having 337 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.640 them, they're giving them apples, and you know, they're talking telepathically, 338 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:56.799 and you know, they're writing in my house, and it's just it's just 339 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.079 so rare to get an actual not just a photograph of video. I mean, 340 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.359 yeah, the Patterson Gimlin film and then the film you guys are covering 341 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.440 in Ido. You know, those are probably the two biggest ones, I 342 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:12.839 would probably say, and they're still talked about today because you can analyze it 343 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:18.119 and analyze it as much as you want, and to disprove it is much 344 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:21.920 harder. It's harder to do. And and then there's hundreds of other ones 345 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.359 out there that I think, you know, are authentic but they're you know, 346 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.119 they're little quick flashes of something hand or you see this, or you 347 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:32.200 just see something tiny. I mean that's lord. Yeah, there's just some 348 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:34.079 weird ones. You ever seen that one? This one I always actually want, 349 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.960 never really asked anybody about, but there's one where you might know what 350 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.519 I'm talking about. Like, guy, there's like a they're filming. It 351 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.960 looks like a sasquatch sitting kind of like on the side of this hill call 352 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.480 covering leaves and it's like dead trees, and then it stands up and like 353 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:52.880 throws a stone towards the camera. Have you ever seen that video? I 354 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.119 think I have, at least in part. I think I've seen what you're 355 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.119 talking about, and it's just it's really quick and it's hard for me. 356 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.640 I feel like we've gotten a lot better at determining what is authentic over since 357 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:08.119 doing this, you know, but that video still always stands out to me 358 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:12.680 is if that is fake, I don't know how they did it because it's 359 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:17.920 like a five foot long arm and it throws you can see the stone flying. 360 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:21.559 Sizeable rock. Yeah, like it was the stone the size of a 361 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.559 rock, the sizeable sizeable a sizeable rock, Okay, I was like, 362 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.599 you really do you have lack of sleep right now? But you know, 363 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.960 a softball sized stone. But for anyone to have a costume or you know, 364 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:37.039 a suit that can actually grab a physical object and toss it with some 365 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:44.359 decent accuracy, that's more impressive creating a suit like that than actual authentic video. 366 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.279 But I think that one may be authentic, but there's a bunch of 367 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.839 those out there that maybe may not be. But it's up to the it's 368 00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:55.160 up to the person the viewer to discern between the two. Like you said, 369 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.519 you gotta put your hat on your cop hat or investigator's hat, all 370 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.920 your hats, like Daryl Sims taught us. Yeah, And that's the thing 371 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:03.839 that bothers me. There's still people even to this day. It's funny. 372 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.279 I don't get on social media as much as I used to, and I 373 00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:10.920 just don't have time to peruse through all the groups and stuff. But it's 374 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.000 funny when you see that one person, like you said, who probably had 375 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.839 some kind of experience and they go down the rabbit hole and they're trying to 376 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:22.160 find some sort of validation for them experiencing what they experienced, and they run 377 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:26.960 across like Tide Standing, right, and they're posting this link to these videos 378 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.400 like nobody's ever seen it before, and they're like, oh my god, 379 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.680 look what I found. It's this video of this it's a closeup of what 380 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.720 I saw. It's a sasquatch. And then you're like, oh, it's 381 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.319 a Todd Standing video and I'm like, god, you know, but those 382 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:42.680 people are legitimately seeing this for the first time. That's what people don't understand. 383 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:45.839 All of us know who Todd is, that we all know who this 384 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.000 dude is because he's been hoaxing for ten years or whatever. But there are 385 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:53.640 people out there who are coming into the subjects literally every single day, and 386 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.519 they're stumbling across this, and of course when you google it, it's been 387 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.440 out there for so long, and the zeke it's the first thing that pops 388 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:06.079 up. So they immediately go to these hoaxer sites and they're just enamored by 389 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:10.599 what's happening. They're lost forever in most cases because they want to believe so 390 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:18.039 bad and there's so little real, tangible video, photographs and other evidence out 391 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:21.599 there that they can really cling to to say, you have that validates what 392 00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:25.559 I saw, right, or that's validating what I experienced. So they latch 393 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:27.799 onto that, and then it just becomes this. Then they tell twenty people, 394 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:32.799 it just grows exponentially. Meanwhile, you have people out here busting their 395 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:37.200 tail to try to bring real encounters to the forefront, real evidence from people 396 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.039 who are experiencing these things. They're the YouTube channels that have four hundred subscribers 397 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.279 and they go out in the woods for twenty five years and never experience Yet 398 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:51.359 they never get any traction. And it's just the hoaxers that rise to the 399 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.400 top instead of the critium rising. It's the crap that rises to the top. 400 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.160 And I do my very best on occasion to just scrape it, what 401 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.839 you know, because it irks me. And I'm lucky enough and fortunate enough 402 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:08.880 to have a platform that people actually listen to where I can say, believe 403 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.440 what you want. This is my opinion on this. I think this dude 404 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.920 is hoaxing, and maybe he's being hoaxed by somebody else. I don't know, 405 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.279 but right you don't exactly. I like the cream to the top and 406 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.039 to the crap to the top of analogy and then they see laugh that's the 407 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:29.240 shirt. Yeah, I wonder and I don't want to be a conspiratorial but 408 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.519 it does seem like the hoaxing video is more or less do get pushed or 409 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:37.519 do get you know, in the algorithm, But I am, I am 410 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.640 its rhetoric, and it's weird how that seems to work. I mean, 411 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.720 sure, the Paterson gimmin film will pop up, but it's usually not even 412 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.920 the first one. Still, it is, like you said, those hoaxing 413 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.319 I just typed in big Foot videos and it wasn't even like the first five. 414 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.440 And it's just odd that that is kind of odd to me. Is 415 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.160 that on purpose? I don't know those answers to those questions, but it 416 00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.200 is strained. It's it's worth being noted. I'd say, well, I 417 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.720 think what happens is Jay, it's not necessarily and I'm with you. I 418 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.880 think there may be something. There may be a there there as far as 419 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:15.240 the algorithms, and there may be something as far as a larger conspiracy for 420 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.200 that kind of stuff to just if nothing else, just to keep it perpetuated 421 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.240 and keep it going because Bigfoot makes money, you know, for these YouTube 422 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:27.000 and these other platforms. I think part of what the problem is I completely 423 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.759 lost my train of thought I had something so important to say. It happened. 424 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.960 I know it did to that. Shit happens when you get old, 425 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.039 man, it's like, oh God. But it's like you said, with 426 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.880 the videos not popping up, not being the first one. Here's where I 427 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.640 was going. Pat from squatch Talk was on the show I might have been 428 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:48.880 last year. We did a show together. We've done quite a few. 429 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.160 But Pat did a little experiment. He went out into an area in the 430 00:27:52.200 --> 00:28:00.240 woods near his house and he randomly took pictures, just pictures of tree and 431 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.160 leaves and sticks and whatever. It's pretty thick. I think it was during 432 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.759 the summer last year when he did this, and he did it purposely. 433 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:11.119 He was he was almost purposely taking paradolia pictures for his experiment. And he 434 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.920 goes into squatch talk, his group on Facebook, nine hundred or so members 435 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:21.160 in the group, right, not a huge reach by the same subscribers on 436 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:29.200 YouTube, and he puts red circles and draws red arrows around random things, 437 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.720 just trees. Nothing there other than trees. And he posted it and says 438 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.599 nothing about bigfoot, bigfoot sasquatch was not there. It was these pictures that 439 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:44.039 I took and it's red circle pictures. I think in the first few days 440 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:49.200 that post reached seventy five to eighty thousand people on Facebook. Now, Pat 441 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.400 has interviewed tons of people. He's had plenty of shows. I've been on 442 00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.920 the show. He's been doing this for ten years, his show talking about 443 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.960 Bigfoot. Right. Never has Pat had this kind of reach ever. All 444 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.839 it took for him to get that kind of play on Facebook and have that 445 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:12.359 kind of reach in just a few days was to take random pictures and the 446 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.319 comments were flowing in. I see the big foot. Oh my god, 447 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:19.480 it's right there. Oh I think that's a dog man. Oh wow, 448 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.640 that's crazy. I see it. It's right there. It's nothing. It's 449 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.640 literally trees, literally trees and leaves. But Pat did I mean, he 450 00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.839 did a follow up show and he's kind of, you know, tongue in 451 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.440 cheek. He's laughing about it. He's like, I never knew I had 452 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.519 that kind of reach. All it took was a red circle squatch that I 453 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.640 didn't even mentioned. He didn't even say that's what it was. All it 454 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.880 took was the red circles. It is that. It blew my mind. 455 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.319 I couldn't believe it. I wonder what that is, Like, I don't 456 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:48.400 even understand why, but I get it because I've seen the red circle stuff 457 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.079 all over the place. We like saying like people just see it and they 458 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.359 share it and they're like, I can see the sassquatch. Yeah, I 459 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.960 can see the sassquatch. I can see the sass squatch. Oh, I 460 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.759 do have to share. There's one guy on YouTube I follow and and I 461 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.559 know, like it's not none of it's real, but he plays it off 462 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.000 as it's being real. And every single one of his cover photos for his 463 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.640 YouTube videos have the big red circles in him. But the best part is 464 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:15.319 he'll just be filming himself talking into the camp. Find him and he'll hold 465 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.119 up like a cardboard or you know, piece of construction paper or red circle 466 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.440 that he made, and he's holding it with his hand. He'll hold it 467 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.240 over his shoulder and he'll hold it up like look, and he'll follow something 468 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.880 and then put it back down. And but he's being he's actual, dead 469 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:34.400 serious about pe. Every time I watched the video all the time, it's 470 00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.359 the funniest thing ever, and I'm like, oh this, I can't tell 471 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.319 if this guy is actually being genuine to try to get views or if he's 472 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.160 just that that. I don't think he even realized how funny he is. 473 00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.000 But it is hilarious. But he gets a lot and a lot of views, 474 00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.640 and he's just talking nonsense the whole time in the video, not even 475 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.039 about big Foot. But oh, it's just great when you see him like 476 00:30:56.119 --> 00:31:00.400 slowly raise that hand up and with a construction favor red circle holding over his 477 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.799 head into the wood bind them. It is the funniest thing ever. I 478 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:10.319 never trust any red circle pictures if anybody's going out on a hula hoop safari, 479 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.119 I just like, it looks like you have to put a big red 480 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.000 circle over it. Then how did you see it? Right? Yeah, 481 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.759 yeah you didn't see it. Yeah it doesn't. But yeah, with all 482 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.960 the hoaxes and stuff, it really muddies the waters for people to ruin try 483 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.480 to discover the truth. And I think that's what all of us, Like 484 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.359 I say, the majority of this community just wants the truth, you know, 485 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.799 and bad you're gonna believe anything. And then it just it just throws 486 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.680 a big wrench right right into the spokes of the tires of the whole movement. 487 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:48.240 It's frustrating it is frustrating. The only exception to that kind of stuff 488 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.720 in my head would be like the Mountain Monsters guys, to where there you 489 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.400 know it's not real. I will say, there are still people that die 490 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:00.720 Hard believe everything. We know those guys, we know the Mountain Honests guys, 491 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.319 and you know, once they get away from everything, you know, 492 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.680 they're just people. They're just guys that go out and make a show. 493 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.319 I know, it's it's fun, it's fun. But there are people because 494 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:15.039 we had our booth next to them at Cryptocon Cryptic Crypticon, and there's people 495 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:21.160 like die Hard, I'm glad you survived the Cherokee devil Buck and like because 496 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.400 he was possessing in one of the shows. And we're sitting there not trying 497 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.000 try not to laugh because this guy's just like, I'm so happy you're safe 498 00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:31.759 with me and my wife prayed for you. We were so scared for you. 499 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.640 It's like, oh, it's so great. Okay, Yeah, Like 500 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.359 I'm jealous at I can't do it or we're not doing his show like that, 501 00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.599 like are we maybe maybe one day, but that's just so that show 502 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:45.720 is great. I love. Yeah, theysey're fun guys. They're they're good 503 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.519 guys. But yeah, but there's the people out there that I don't know. 504 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.960 The red circles are just ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but 505 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.480 you understand why people do it because it doesn't take a rocket side this. 506 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.279 Now, if Pat was one of those people, and he's certainly not, 507 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.519 he's very scientific in his approach. He's very down to earth. He's very 508 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.039 flesh and blood kind of it, maybe at ape in the woods if it 509 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.720 exists at all, kind of guy, and he's not going to take advantage 510 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.720 of that. But there are a lot of people out there. It only 511 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:16.119 takes one time to get that attention and understand what it is that you have 512 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.799 to do to get that attention, and they're going to keep doing it, 513 00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.240 and it's just going to progress and get worse and worse and worse as their 514 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.440 popularity grows and they can start making a little money. You get seventy five 515 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.440 eighty thousand subscribers on a YouTube channel and you're getting forty fifty sixty thousand views 516 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.400 on a video. You do that over the course of a month, you're 517 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.000 gonna make money doing it. And then you got more money and more time 518 00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:42.279 to hoax more stuff, and then used to become a professional hoaxer. And 519 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.000 there's not a ton of those out there, I don't think, but there's 520 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.119 certainly been enough people in the community that we have seen rise and fall over 521 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.799 the last decade or more, Rick Dy or some of these other people that 522 00:33:52.880 --> 00:34:00.279 have made a living hoaxing people, and it just perpetuates that. So these 523 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.240 red circle squatches that people see, even on a small scale, you know, 524 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.079 these people can get in these video or these bigfoot groups just like I 525 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.920 have on Facebook, and you go to four or five hundred groups and post 526 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.320 these red circle squatches and people, oh man, that's awesome, Oh wow, 527 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.400 I see it, even if it's five in each group. It feeds 528 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.400 that ego, It feeds whatever is missing in these people's lives that cause them 529 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.800 to do that stuff in the first place. And then it just perpetuates it. 530 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.760 And like you said, you know, sometimes it's all in good fun. 531 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.880 I guess it's all. You know. Everybody says, why are you 532 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.480 up in arms about it? Well, because if you take this seriously and 533 00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.760 you want these answers, and you really do have people on your show who 534 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.480 have had real encounters, and you dive into this stuff and you look for 535 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.320 evidence yourself, maybe even find stuff yourself. We were talking before we went 536 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.519 on the air. I find stuff on my property and I'm hesitant to share 537 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.079 it because I don't want to be accused of being a hoax right, because 538 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.800 you know, I never say definitively. I think that's one of the things 539 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.519 that people have hoax stuff, and if they're smart, they don't say definitives. 540 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:06.119 Yes, Bigfoot did this. You know, you put it out there 541 00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.000 and you kind of be mysterious about it and then let people draw their own 542 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.960 conclusions. But you know, I found a footprint a week or so ago 543 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.119 on my property in a creek on a hike. I snapped some pictures of 544 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.039 it and put my foot in for you know, some scale, and it 545 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:24.199 looks like a footprint of a sasquatch with five toes. You know, I 546 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:28.199 put it out there. I texted it to Doug Hi Chick, and said, 547 00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.000 Doug helped me out here. Am I crazy? Or does this look 548 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.800 like a sasquatch footprint stepped into this creek? He's like yeah, And he 549 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.679 even pointed out where it looked like it was possibly a thumb, so it 550 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.840 might have even been sort of a handprint. Doug always sees things I don't 551 00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.840 see. That's why I trusted his opinion. So I'm like, yeah, 552 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:49.039 I ended up putting it out on my social media and said, look, 553 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.159 this is just what I found. I found some weird rocks stacked near it 554 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.239 in the middle of the woods, you know, weird possible stick structures and 555 00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.199 stuff like that. But I never said it was a big foot. I 556 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:01.519 don't know. I didn't see what step there. You know. It could 557 00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.400 have been a bear track, could have been a weird beer track, could 558 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.480 have been something else. I don't know. It couldn't have been a footprint 559 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.039 at all. It might have been footprint paradolia for all I know. But 560 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.280 it certainly looks legitimate to me. But I don't put that stuff out there 561 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.920 often because I'm weary, because I'm like, you know, I'm calling this 562 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.920 dude to hoaxer. And then you know, I found something two days later 563 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.639 and I posted a look at this up here. He does a big foot 564 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:29.440 podcast and he's finding big foot footpoll. Right, that's how we're gonna say, 565 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.880 like, how can yeah, how con seen yet? Right? Yeah, 566 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.880 you know, we could ever like post stuff like that because you have 567 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.599 a platform all based around this stuff, so you can't really go out and 568 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.480 just if you really do find stuff, you just can't like it. Maybe 569 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.719 it's gonna be like Okay, yeah you really yeah, Okay, okay, 570 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.159 Brian, Okay, justin you really found big foot stuff and you talk about 571 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.880 it eight times a week and like yeah that and you can't post it and 572 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.599 say definitely this is a big foot track because you you know well enough now, 573 00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.000 like you've got to be weary of everything and you can't let your own 574 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.199 mind tell you like, oh, this is what I'm so excited to see 575 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.159 this. This is exactly what it is. I'm got to share it with 576 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:14.199 everyone. I'm always worries were of those posts two when you see them on 577 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.559 social media's this is a you know, this is definitively this, this is 578 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.519 bigfoot hair. We found a sample, you know, just all that stuff. 579 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:25.800 It's yeah, you don't really quite know for sure. There's some people 580 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.880 though, that you do trust. I do have like a few people out 581 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.920 there that when they post stuff, it's like, okay, like this is 582 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.599 interesting, but it's very often not very often that you actually get people that 583 00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:40.360 have like repeat, we're talking about your Wisconsin people, Minnesota pea. Yeah, 584 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.760 yeah, that you don't have repeat you know, occurrences or a property 585 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:49.880 that is active, you know, and they can I guess, not repeat 586 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.480 results, but they get little things that do happen quite often. And but 587 00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.440 you gotta you have to be able to discern between those people that are authentic 588 00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.760 and then those that are you know, like what we've been talking about this 589 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.000 whole time, that really like to push just for you know, and it 590 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:09.360 might be monetary driven, you don't, I don't know. I mean, 591 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.760 it's not I guess that's none of my business. But you know, some 592 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:16.280 people, I guess that's how they make a little bit of living or whom 593 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.719 full living, a full living perhaps, yes, yeah, I know, 594 00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:23.880 But it's that's that's just rough in this whole field, because like I said, 595 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:25.719 at the end of the day, we all just want the truth. 596 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.559 We all want answers, and Bigfoot it's their sasquatch, you know. All 597 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.559 that unlocks a key to something, some other truth in the world, you 598 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.320 know, that some bigger thing that we're all seeking as well, just the 599 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.639 unexplainable things that happen every day in the world that you talk about. But 600 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.079 it's a lot of people don't. They don't live in that realm of understanding 601 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:50.800 that these things are happening all the time all around us. But there's something 602 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.320 there, and it's just it drives it. It's curiosity that drives it, 603 00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.480 and it's just answers. We all, I think we all want answers to 604 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.559 that. Yeah, I agree. And I've always anything I've post. If 605 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:06.440 you see anything I've posted online, it's probably been through at least five or 606 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.800 six people. Because I'll find something and I'll text it and say, look, 607 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.320 I just found this, Like, tell me, I'm not crazy. 608 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.480 What do you see? I don't even use well, I don't say I 609 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.440 found this and it's a big foot footprint. Or I've had the apple bitten 610 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:24.039 on my gifting stump here on the property and it looked like some something picked 611 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.880 the apple up like a person and bit it and then stuck it back down 612 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.480 on a stick. I'm sending that picture to like ten people saying, what 613 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.199 does that look like? It looks like you took a bite out of that 614 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.880 apple. Okay, well that's what I thought. Could it have been an 615 00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:38.280 ungulate? Probably was, It could have been a deer, could have been 616 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:43.360 anything, right, I never say definitively. And I think that's what it 617 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.599 goes back to, is when these people are saying these things definitively. And 618 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.440 that's the thing that bothered me about Todd standing so much. Is I am 619 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:55.039 the guy who can take you out and show you sasquatch right, No, 620 00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:59.840 you can't, dude. If you could, we would have more pictures and 621 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.119 video and these other things that you claim that you have. You know, 622 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.559 last year Todd was he was trying his best to get me to come up 623 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.280 and do an expedition with him last year. Over the summer, I was 624 00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.400 considering going, but I just couldn't make it work with my schedule, and 625 00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.719 it just it dawned on me one day. I was like, this guy 626 00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.360 really wants me to come up there and have an experience, So I'll then 627 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.239 come back and talk about it on my show and sort of validate. Right, 628 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:27.639 stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. Will be right back after 629 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:34.039 these messages. And I would never do that, even if I went up 630 00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.280 there and saw a freaking sasquatch. I said it to him, if I 631 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.159 come up there and have if one walks into the camp and sits down at 632 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.519 the camp fire. I'm still going to come back on my show and say, 633 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.480 I believe your videos are fake, dude. Unless it looks just like 634 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:51.280 the one that's in the video, it's not going to change my mind because 635 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.599 I believe, like I think you said it earlier, Jay, I believe 636 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.599 that people who do these things, some of those people have real experiences. 637 00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.280 And I've said that about Todd. I think he's had real experiences in the 638 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.039 past. Maybe he still does on some level. I've had a couple of 639 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.199 people on the show who did go on expeditions with him last year and have 640 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.960 experiences. One of them said he saw a sasquatch while he was on this 641 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.119 from a distance while he was on an expedition with Todd. I believe those 642 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:17.840 things can happen. It does not change the fact that the videos that he 643 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.519 put out are not real. It's never going to change that. So it's 644 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.440 the same thing with everybody that does that kind of stuff. You can have 645 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.119 a real experience and then it's not enough and you just have to keep pouring 646 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:34.599 on and doing more and more and more, and I'm just I'm over it. 647 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.800 There's so much stuff that we could could and should be doing. It's 648 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.599 like the DNA stuff. You know, that was one of the most popular 649 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.159 parts of I had so many people reason out to me after I had you 650 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.920 guys on and say thank you for having somebody come on and explain and talk 651 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:51.199 about DNA and how important it is. Justin you collected DNA, so you 652 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.800 have that experience and that background to talk intelligently about DNA collection because people just 653 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.719 think, oh, we'll just get DNA. You know. Everybody says they've 654 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.280 got hair and skin and all these other things that need to be tested, 655 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.159 and it's not necessarily that simple, you know. And then you have people 656 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.280 out there like she who shall not be named with her new projects with DNA, 657 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.039 and I know, I've got dog man DNA. And again you're talking. 658 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.840 You're a scientist, but you're talking in definitives, right, you know, 659 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.159 know what you have is dog DNA. It's all you have. It's 660 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.719 literally dog DNA and something else. You know, you hear somebody with some 661 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:35.960 credibility with their doctor saying these things. People buy into that and believe it. 662 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.599 And you can't do that to people, especially when you're talking about something 663 00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.559 like this. There are no definitives. Nobody knows if these things are really 664 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.760 real. People who come on the show and say, you know, I 665 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.440 know you haven't had an experience like that. Brian, you haven't seen one. 666 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.000 You don't know these things are real. I'm a no or not a 667 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.199 believer. I've seen one, Okay, I respect that, but for those 668 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.920 of us who have not had that, and I'm still I'm still on the 669 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.320 fence with ninety percent of the stuff we talk about on the show. I'd 670 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.880 love to believe that these things are real. I think they probably can be 671 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.079 and are, but then you have all this other noise out there, like 672 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:14.320 and I've I invited doctor Ketcham on the show numerous times for two years. 673 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:16.599 I've been inviting her on the show. She will not come on my show. 674 00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:21.000 She's doing another podcast, but she won't because she can't control the narrative 675 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.800 on my show. It's just that simple. She knows I'm going to ask 676 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.679 those questions. I'm going to call her out on some of these things. 677 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:31.000 And I think it's it's not being rude, it's not being I'm not calling 678 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:37.159 her character into judge your character. I'm talking about the evidence that you're presenting 679 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:42.639 and the statements that you're making definitively about something that nobody knows anything definitively about. 680 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.480 It's just that simple. What do we always say, Jay, that 681 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:51.320 the truth welcomes questions and lies running from questions. I was going on with 682 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.360 the expert thing. That's a good one. Oh, the expert thing. 683 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.599 Oh, the thing is the sasquatch expert. Yeah. If somebody starts talking 684 00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.519 definitives, that's a sask Watch expert. There's no such thing. Red flag 685 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.920 A red flag, yeah, not a red circle. That's a huge red 686 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:09.280 flag. Yeah. Yeah. The DNA stuff bothers me deeply, and it's 687 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.440 just because and I feel bad for the general public because it's just, you 688 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.960 know, it's a very specialized set of knowledge that I was I was lucky 689 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:20.880 to you know, have because that's what I did professionally, is E DNA 690 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:24.719 and environmental DNA and like sampling species and stuff like that. And you see 691 00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.920 somebody just hold this thing a big foot for like in their bare hands, 692 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.960 and you're just like, well, that samples contaminated. That'll never show anything 693 00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.880 even if it was real. It's just like my heart drops a little bit 694 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.440 every time when somebody's like big foot for holding it disclose to their mouth. 695 00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:43.679 Gabinet. Oh my gosh, there was that one. I can't remember what 696 00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.519 show was on where it was on a tree, and I'm like I seen 697 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.239 him getting out gloves and all this stuff and like get ready to do it. 698 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.079 I'm like ah ah, And then one of the other guys goes in 699 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:52.960 just pulls it right off the tree, bear hands, and I'm thinking, 700 00:44:53.000 --> 00:45:00.440 ah, well, that's gonna come back inconclusive. Oh yeah, don't people 701 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.639 like you would understand that? Right? Oh my gosh, Like we had 702 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.599 sites and keep mind, we would be dressed like to the teeth to do 703 00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.480 this DNA collection stuff in still get inconclusive sites because we contaminated it with our 704 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.800 own bodies. I mean, we're constantly shedding DNA, but when you're that 705 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.559 close to this little tiny sample, you know your DNA can really overpower it 706 00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:24.079 pretty freaking quick. But is there any videos and you know, we talked 707 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:29.440 about like the Patty, the Patterson Gimlin film, we talk about the Freeman 708 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.199 and stuff, But is there any of these smaller videos that we see all 709 00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.280 the time that you feel is a little more credible? Oh and went real 710 00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:39.159 quick. I was gonna say I hadn't encountered I would not believe in Bigfoot 711 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:45.079 if I didn't see one, I never expect anybody else to because it's something 712 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.679 that's just why, like why would you? So it's I've always been like 713 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.760 that. Like when people say they don't believe, are there really against believing? 714 00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:54.679 That's more what that's for is like I don't like, it doesn't bother 715 00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.760 me. I know, I had my confirmation, and that's but I get 716 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.159 it. It's it's a hard pilled, a swallow imagine at eight to nine 717 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:07.360 foot tall North American primate running around right on the edge of civilization. It's 718 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:08.920 a heart, it's a big one. But yeah, is there any of 719 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:14.000 these videos that you see that really stick out to you as being maybe more 720 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:19.519 probable than more hoaxy? Yeah? I think there was one that was pretty 721 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.960 popular a couple of maybe a year or so ago. And I don't know 722 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.519 if it was Russia or something. It was like a something that was running 723 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:30.320 and I think it was a father and his kid were out in the woods 724 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.880 doing whatever, and this thing drops down for a second or two and goes 725 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:37.880 on all fours very chump like behavior. Now, that one stuck out to 726 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:42.960 me. I really my initial response to that one was that looks legitimate to 727 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.119 me. And I've had that situation with one of the Todd videos, Tide 728 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.159 Standing videos, that one where that thing's running up a heel, you know, 729 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.559 behind him, and it's it's kind of blur. You don't get to 730 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.280 see a whole lot of detail or whatnot. But that incline is really steep, 731 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.320 and I think I know Todd did a breakdown on this channel of he's 732 00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.320 confirming his own evidence, obviously, so let's take that with a grain of 733 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.400 salt. And when we started talking about it, but that's a pretty steep 734 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.639 incline, and I think he broke it down. And I've talked to other 735 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.239 people who have looked at that, and this thing's basically running faster up that 736 00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.760 heill than a regular person could run down it. Right, That's pretty compelling 737 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.960 to me. Yeah, everything outside of that, I think the only thing 738 00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.639 that really sticks out to me is one of the bigger ones is the Freeman 739 00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:30.079 footage. If you see the video as it is online now, it's not 740 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:34.880 that impressive. But Doug and Michael Freeman, Paul Freeman's son, sent me 741 00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.639 their version, the non interlaced version, where they've broke it down they've framed 742 00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:43.920 by framed, they've cleaned it up, they stabilized it, they've taken away 743 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:50.000 the interlacing. It's just the original film zoomed and broken down. When you 744 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.199 see that, it's pretty impressive to me. I mean, it looks like 745 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.960 this thing is real, and it looks like it walks across this path and 746 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:59.440 it takes a baby off of a tree or toddler or whatever, and it 747 00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.559 looks at gentimate to me. And then you couple that with the footprint evidence 748 00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.880 that was there in addition to the film, and again you take the totality 749 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.239 of the circumstances. And I didn't believe it necessarily was real until I had 750 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:15.920 the conversation with Michael after he wrote the framing files, and when Doug high 751 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.079 Check and Cliff Brackman, Cliff and I've talked about it too. Cliff broke 752 00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.159 down the film and did his own non interlaced version of the film as well, 753 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:24.000 and he's pretty convinced as he can be. I mean, obviously, 754 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:28.199 Cliff's like, it's video. It's subjective. No matter what we'd do, 755 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.159 how you break it down, there's only so much there that you can take 756 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:34.320 a look at. It's never going to be a one hundred percent given. 757 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.920 But if you take that plus the footprint evidence is there. That same footprint 758 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:43.199 has been cast other places hundreds of miles away, and you compare the two 759 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:47.360 side by side, it is clearly the same print from the same purported sasquatch. 760 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:51.360 Right. So you put all that stuff together, that's pretty compelling to 761 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.039 me. But as far as the other videos and photos that are out there, 762 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.719 there's a few, like I said here and there that I've seen that 763 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.360 make me say that's possible. But it's difficult because there's not a whole lot 764 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.280 to go with it. You don't have one to one correlation. It's just 765 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.000 this or whatever. You know, you see those where it starts out and 766 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:13.599 it just doesn't make sense. They're filming something that just doesn't make sense film 767 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:15.920 in the back of your barn, right, My brain goes to, why 768 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.480 would you be filming video of that right now? And then boom, something 769 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.800 runs into frame or something pops out from behind a tree. That's clear red 770 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:29.360 flags to me. And there's a lot of that out there, and who's 771 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:30.920 to say some of those may be legitimate. You know, if you knew 772 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.480 the backstory, you know, if you had a person in front of you 773 00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.480 saying, well, I was filming because I heard something. I heard something 774 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.519 and I'm like, what the hell is that? So that's all possible, 775 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.320 but it's hard because there's not a ton out there, and I think the 776 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.119 majority of the stuff. While I talk to Cliff, he had a guy 777 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:52.079 come into the North American Bigfoot Center and show him some trail cam stuff. 778 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.679 It's pretty compelling. We'll never see it because the guy didn't want it released. 779 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.199 He doesn't want to show it to anybody. He just showed it to 780 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:02.760 Cliff. He wanted his personal confirmation. That's it. Yeah, and that's 781 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:07.480 it. And those are the ones you really want to see because they're not 782 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:10.719 out there screaming it to the rafters. This is my brand, Nephrotide a 783 00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:15.559 year whatever that comes to visit every week. Those are the people you really 784 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.320 want to see that evidence because they don't have a dog in the fight. 785 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.519 But we'll never see it because they don't want anything out of it. It's 786 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.440 just the personal confirmation. Yeah, it looks like a big foot, Okay, 787 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.880 that's what I thought. Appreciate it and they're on to their life. 788 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.719 Have you ever seen that? I can't remember if it was a Monster Quest 789 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:36.960 episode or if it was paranormal fact or faked with the big Foot running across 790 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:42.000 like right to left on this big hill slope out in Washington. I think 791 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.599 I've seen that, yes, so I think a lot of people have seen 792 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:45.800 it. But they did a whole episode. I can't remember which show did 793 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.000 a whole episode on it, but they actually got the family that was there, 794 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.559 and you know, they got they went to the actual spot and everything, 795 00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:58.159 and they had I can't remember, like an Olympic runner try to do 796 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.880 it at the same time, and he was always like two or three times 797 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:07.400 longer than the figure and he wasn't wearing a costume. That was one that 798 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.480 always just kind of to me because the family, you know, they went 799 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.280 to the actual spot, they know they had the They's still the same camera 800 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.960 so they could do all that testing and stuff like that, but there's not 801 00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.440 like a lot you could really look at and be that. But that one 802 00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:23.039 is always I don't even remember what show that was on with that one always 803 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.239 stuck out to me because all the data was there. For our show format, 804 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.280 we won't do stories that I can't find actual like reports for and stuff 805 00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.599 like tangible, evidencedgible evidence here, say it's all just here and say, 806 00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.960 like one time and an unnamed town in Indiana there was a lead mermaid sources 807 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.320 say like, where's the sources? Right, Just show me one newspaper article 808 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.039 and I'll do it. But yeah, I like that one. But there's 809 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.679 just not like you're saying, like there's just not tons out there you can 810 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:53.960 look at and be like, well, that can't be a guy in a 811 00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.519 suit, or that can't be CS and that's the other stuff. Now, 812 00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:02.159 Oh my gosh, is all that you know, CDDI and video editing and 813 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:07.119 all like AI stuff. Now, oh I'm done with the stupid AI. 814 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.559 Wait till we start having AI squatch video. You know many pictures of AI 815 00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:14.840 monster fish? I get sent a week through this monster fish? How many 816 00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.800 AI ungulates do you get sick? That was the way Jay was laughing. 817 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:21.280 We just had a fight about the word ungulate. Like literally yesterday I said 818 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.559 ungulate and Cha's like, nobody talks like that. I albody talks like I 819 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:27.920 just start laughing. Yeah he describes something, you know, He's like when 820 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.000 you compare it like an ungulate too, And I'm gonna start laughing, I'm 821 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:35.159 like an ungulate, only like someone in the biology people to ever like use 822 00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.920 that word in a conversation and then then turns around the neck today or you 823 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:43.239 just said ungulate, I'm like, ah, but you're right. Everybody says, 824 00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:45.119 damn not, I know, I am. This is not my normal 825 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.440 field. I'm used to like, you know, bowling stuff. Yeah, 826 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.920 so that and then the Freeman footage is amazing, and then like to me 827 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.760 that I don't know. The Patterson Gimblin film is the most the most single 828 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:04.119 analyzed piece of film in world history, and that includes the jfkssassination. And 829 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:08.760 nobody has a definitive answer that to me. Right there sings choirs about it. 830 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.840 If the FBI spent like what we did that episode, what do we 831 00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.039 talk about the I spent like two thousand hours analyzing it or something some big, 832 00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:21.840 crazy stupid number and they came out inconclusive, and it's just like, 833 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.440 no, that's I mean, that's the most authentic footage. I think, 834 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:30.280 like long term footage where it's in the frame, the longest that you can 835 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.800 point to is being real. Only six guys have claimed to be in the 836 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.119 costume and hate Yeah, that's always a fun part when it's like every couple 837 00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.719 of years a new guy will come out like it was me, I was 838 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.679 Patty. The thing that I've always pointed to was nobody could ever produce the 839 00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.719 costume itself. Right of course, you know, Peronymus said that he gave 840 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:52.599 it back to Roger Patterson, and of course they probably took it some way 841 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:55.000 burned. And if that were the case, obviously you want to get rid 842 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.119 of the evidence of your hoax. But the guy who claimed here in North 843 00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:02.920 Carolina actually the costume designer that did all these costumes, and that he's done 844 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.239 that ridiculous video, and I think it was in the It might have been 845 00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.559 in the making a Big Foot with Greg Long where they do this recreation and 846 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.000 he has this weird arm where it's ridiculous. He could never come out. 847 00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.559 If he would just have came out and said, Okay, you made the 848 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:22.000 suit, right, Why wouldn't you just make another one, make the exact 849 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.960 Patty suit and just lay it out there for the cameras and say, this 850 00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.280 isn't the exact one, but it's the one I made right after that, 851 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.840 and this puts it to rest. But that never happened. It is compelling 852 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.920 to me that it has stood the test of time. One of the things 853 00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.559 that I found really interesting when I was talking to Todd Prescott yesterday from the 854 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:45.679 Sasquatch Archives, and he has this letha of tons of information on Sasquats. 855 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:50.159 Right, he got all of John Green's stuff, part of what he's found 856 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.599 in there, and I'm actually going to put together a show. Todd said 857 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:53.840 I could do it. He was gracious enough to allow me to use some 858 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:58.480 of the footage. He's got an interview that John Green had from a radio 859 00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.280 station with Roger Patter and Bob Gimlin like five days after they filmed the Patterson 860 00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.920 Gimlin film. It is probably the first real interview on any kind of media 861 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:13.039 that's documented and them telling the story and this guy's asking him, he's pressing 862 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.559 him on these questions. So it'll be really cool. I want to break 863 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.280 it down. I haven't really done it yet to look at some of the 864 00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:23.039 newer interviews with Bob, because obviously Roger Patterson passed away years ago, Bob's 865 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.480 still around, so I want to look at some of the differences. Because 866 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.079 one of the big things that comes out and the documentation that he got from 867 00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:37.840 John Green was everybody thinks that Roger Patterson and Bob gimlan were in Bluff Creek 868 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:40.480 for like a month before they filmed this. They were there for nine days, 869 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:44.239 that's all. They were there for nine days before this was filmed. 870 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.239 And that's one of the things that's got I think even Bob has said over 871 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.280 the years that they've been in there for a month, because it just kind 872 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.440 of got picked up and ran with. It's like that game of telephone, 873 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.480 right, somebody said it or they misheard it, and now it's like the 874 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.119 narrative that, oh, they were in there for a month, No, 875 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:00.440 they weren't. They weren't back What the hell are they going to feed a 876 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:05.360 horse, two horses, three horses for a month in the back country. 877 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.159 You can't bring that much food in for a horse. Nine days is probably 878 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:12.639 topping it, right. So just little things and little nuances like that that 879 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.039 I find interesting about the Patterson Gimblin film is going back and taking a look 880 00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:21.119 at some of those interviews earlier on what did they say five days after it 881 00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:23.800 happened versus what Bob's saying fifty years later. You know, those kind of 882 00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:28.159 things. I find it compelling. I think it's very interesting that we're still 883 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.559 talking about it from nineteen sixty seven. Right, did you say that's something 884 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.159 you're putting together, those interviews and a project you're working on. Yeah, 885 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:39.159 I'm gonna pull that audio from Todd. It's only I think it's about twenty 886 00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:43.800 or twenty five minutes. It's not the full interview of it. Yes, 887 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.159 it's twenty or twenty five minutes of them talking about what happened. And it's 888 00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:51.159 literally I think it was five or six days after they filmed the PG film. 889 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:52.840 I'm really looking forward to hearing that. I'd never heard it, but 890 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.719 Todd now we're talking about it yesterday, and he has permission to use it, 891 00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.719 so he's gonna give me perission to use it on the show. So 892 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.639 I'm going to pull that audio and pump it up a little bit and do 893 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:05.400 some production and get it where it's a lot more listenable because it was recorded 894 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:09.280 on radio in sixty seven, nineteen sixty seven radio. So yeah, everyone 895 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:14.000 listening, like, pay attention and keep up with Sasquatch, Chotis and Ryan, 896 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.320 and I'm looking really looking forward to that. Yeah, we're going to 897 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:21.199 share that when that comes out. Do you think that the Patterson Gamlin film 898 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:25.159 would be looked at differently if they weren't out there making a documentary about big 899 00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:29.320 Foot? Oh? Absolutely absolutely. That was the other thing that we talked 900 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.960 about is a lot of people don't realize that Patterson actually finished his documentary. 901 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:37.280 Most people think that it stopped once they got the footage, But they did 902 00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:39.960 eventually finish the documentary, and there's actually two versions of it out there. 903 00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:45.639 There's the Roger Patterson version where it's all pro Sasquatch and it's all real, 904 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.079 and then there's the BBC version where I think Napier's on there actually kind of 905 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:53.079 poopoo in the film because he never really believed that it was real. So 906 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:58.440 there's actually two versions, and Todd Prescott has copies of both of those. 907 00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.760 You'll never see the Patterson version because Patricia Patterson and the family controls that he 908 00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:07.760 has a copy of it, but it'll never see the light of day. 909 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:10.000 Yeah, but the BBC version he has, and he's actually released that. 910 00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:13.760 I think it's on the Sasquatch archives. Now you can actually go and see 911 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.760 the BBC version, But the Patterson version is out there. It does exist. 912 00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:21.840 We have to check it out. I have not even I didn't even 913 00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:23.639 know that was I didn't know. I never really that's something I never really 914 00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:28.639 thought of the documentary that they were there filming. I never even thought about 915 00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:30.440 them finishing here. I don't know. If I would have, I'd be 916 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:34.519 like, all right, that's it if you think about it. Doctor Meldrum 917 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.679 has talked about it when I had him on the show. If you ask 918 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:38.239 him what got him into Bigfoot, that's what it is, because he saw 919 00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.280 it in like he saw it at the theaters I think in like sixty eight 920 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.039 when he was like ten years old or whatever. So that's that's what sort 921 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:51.199 of pulled him in. Was the actual documentary that Patterson and Gimblin filmed. 922 00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:54.079 They took it around the movie theaters, but you don't see it unless you 923 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.440 were there. Right. It got shown over the next year or whatever, 924 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.039 and then it was gone. It's not like it went straight to DVD. 925 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:02.960 Right, If you missed the New Batman movie at the theater, you can 926 00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.559 watch it on Netflix in a month, or you can pick up the DVD 927 00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.440 at the Red Box. That's not how it worked with the Patterson Gimlin documentary. 928 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:13.320 But there are copies of it, like I said, and Todd has 929 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.840 those copies. I found it interesting, just the story of how he got 930 00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.719 It's a pretty interesting story in and of itself. But yeah, I may 931 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:21.719 do something with that. I don't know. I'll have to talk to Todd 932 00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.840 and see if what I can use off the archives and what I can't. 933 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:29.119 We'll see. Let's see exciting stuff moving forward. Yeah, my brain is 934 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:30.880 still melting. Sorry guys, are we at home all the listeners? No, 935 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:35.800 I just had a baby and he hasn't slept yet, neither of I. 936 00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:38.079 Well, I did sleep this morning a little bit, and that's why 937 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:40.760 I'm in trouble. But no, thank you Brian for coming on. This 938 00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.239 has been epic. Yeah, this has been awesome. We'll have to have 939 00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:46.119 you back on because this is a fun. Now we're just flew by after 940 00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.400 a half hour of technical difficulties. Oh gosh, it was awful. Yeah, 941 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.079 I gotta make some calls. Good times had by all. I hope 942 00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:57.320 you kept your receipt for that. Yep, I bought the warranty, so 943 00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:59.440 I'm gonna go over there and the throw to the window. But no, 944 00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:00.639 thank you, Well you just will you just tell everybody where they find all 945 01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:06.039 your stuff and everything like that. Yes, Sasquatch Odyssey, Paranormal Odyssey, 946 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:09.039 True Crime Odyssey, all the Odysse's all the podcasts. You can get them 947 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:12.760 anywhere you listen to podcasts. Anywhere you're listening right now, you can find 948 01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.760 them all. You got to do a search at Paranormal World Productions dot com 949 01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.840 has all the shows there, all the blogs, all that stuff. So 950 01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:21.679 you can go to Paranormal World Productions dot com and check us out there. 951 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.679 And so Brian, before we go, we have a tradition how we end 952 01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:28.400 this On the count of three, we'll all scream. By then it'll be 953 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:37.079 over all right, three two, one bye. They say you don't gotta 954 01:00:37.239 --> 01:01:15.079 go home, but justay, I don't want chides, Joy that chime everything. 955 01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:21.159 Call you back right baby, my joy for me, Joy, stay 956 01:01:21.519 --> 01:02:14.039 right, call it right away. Ysbot, don't don't you be call don't 957 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:37.800 don't call you about bouts us, muss us us and jas