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We spreading the word. Kevin Cherry got a close shave for summer.
Something like that in a close shave for summer. Came in with all kinds
of beers. Matt is here from bTB. What's up? And Mark Hilvin
is here. Good afternoon. It's Mark the Soldier, right, asked Mark,
Sorry, soldier, Mark the Soldier who today's your day? It is?
June tenth? Should bring the video out again? She should have.
You know, what's funny? Not funny, but Juneteenth. I don't know
that most people even knew, even though it's two years now that they're like,
it's a federal holiday, yes, right, so yeah, yeah,
I mean school's closed, right. I was yea, and they and and
that, and that's great, But I think most people are still not that
familiar. Like if you went on the street and said to people, what
holiday is today? I don't know that. I don't know what the should
happened to me. Well, that's what happened to you prior to be it
being a federal holiday. It was the first time it was a federal holiday
though, the first when he put it through as a federal holliday. Yeah,
that's what it was. It was oh okay, yeah, Well,
I don't even know if it went so quickly, like they didn't have enough
time to organize and recognize, So that was the problem, I think.
Yeah, I think most people don't because it celebrates the abolishment of slavery in
Texas in eighteen sixty five, right, but the Emancipation Proclamation was signed two
years prior, and it took that long to get to Texas to figure out
what was happening. Right, we don't celebrate that, we're just celebrating Texas.
Well, we're celebrating Texas because I think that was the last ones,
the last slaves, the last places that that had slaves. So they though,
so slavery officially ended in the United States two years after. I think
prior to that, everybody's going fake news. I don't know what you're I
don't know what. I don't know what you're hearing this. That's not true.
It's it's the limb tards telling you. I mean, I don't know,
but they was like it took two years right to get down there.
Yeah, and it is what's it? How many years ago was it?
Do you remember the Nicosia whole scenario that went on last summer? It was
last summer. It was last summers they did. It was one of the
two and they had a party and they invited some the dentist and he invited
the the some firemen over. One of the firemen happened to be a black
guy. He walked in and there was they were poking fun allegedly a Juneteenth
and stuff, and then they had like this went on and on, and
then in August they got some really really bad advice and we're told to step
in front of cameras and have a press conference and explain themselves. And it
was the closest thing to a Saturday Night Live sketch I have ever seen in
my life. Do you remember this? I so Berkeley Breen from News ten
NBC covered it, and here's News ten NBC's cover, like they're crying,
this is the doctor, the dentist cancer culture can be cruel. This is
the couple who threw the private party that sparked allegations of racism and a lawsuit
by a firefighter. Today. That couple said the allegations of racism in the
lawsuit are destroying their lives. They said their party wasn't racist, and neither
are they and their lawyer challenged reporters to find anything in their lives that is
racist. And now wait, now, wait that's just for a second.
Listen exactly to what Danna Dowberry says right after this, right, I challenge,
they challenge anybody to find racist. Listen to this. And that took
Newston NBC. She investigated report of Berkeley Breen about twenty five minutes. You
don't mess a Berkeley. Wow, we had to stop clocking on him.
I swear you by I know now. I had Berkeley in here for a
one on one's great. I called Berkeley today and I said, hey,
man, I want to do I want to play the audio from the story
you did on these people because just and the reason I feel from my perspective
is that I think there are people that still don't appreciate Juneteenth. Here's the
problem. Though, Yes, nobody's educated. People are not educating I will
give to hang on, hang on, I'm not even attacking you. That
wasn't that you, right, I don't mean that by anything. I just
think that most people don't. You're right. I don't think we were taught
about it in school, and I don't think and it was celebrated in Texas
prior to being for years I think, before it became a national holiday.
I think it's a day that we should recognize. I absolutely agree. I
know you do. Maybe the community should actually tell us what it is instead
of being mad that we don't know what it is. Well, yeah,
I think that. The only part that I could see where they get upset
with that is they go, well, hang on a second, you were
the guys, even though it wasn't you or me, it wasn't even our
great grandfather. Well that's the thing. Like most of my people came from
Ireland, ido, but in the eighteen hundreds, uh so or early the
nineteen hundreds, I think most of them, so most of that stuff had
already ended here, right right, right, So I don't know if they
would those still say, yeah, but come on, we should we should
have been educated on this in our school, and it wasn't and we weren't,
and we weren't now I asked Berkeley to come on and say, do
you want to go? I am not touching that hot tail manline has nothing
to do with this, but okay, all right, one of them.
I don't blame it because it's in my way. It's it certainly isn't to
uh make fun of Juneteenth. That's no, not at all. I think
the reason I why this is I think there are many people who are still
like the Nicosias, who may poke fun at it and not see this the
reality of you had people who were brought here against their own will, right
right to work, to work, and then it didn't even even after the
country says no more. It was two more years, right, Maria Burke
Yanna. It is an anonymous Twitter account owned and operated by Mary Nicosia,
who organized the party. The lawyer and Mary Nicosia admitted to it, but
they try to distinguish between the Twitter account and the party, which is what
prompted the lawsuit. I feel like I ruined my family. I would likely
have this guilt in pain with me until I finished the next bottle of wine.
She says. He says, she's not. This is like last some
time. It's not the rest of my life. Mary Nucosia spoke first.
I'm not a perfect person, I admit it. But my husband that's how
he is. This is doctor Nicholas Nicosia, a dentist in Brighton. It
took me thirty two years to build my reputation in less than two hours to
destroy it. Their lawyer said the party was a private political party, and
he showed photos that he took last week that he says depicts what the party
looked like back in July. The allegation in the lawsuit by firefighter Jared Jones
says there were large Juneteenth flags mocking the national holiday, a Juneteenth cup and
a nine bench by nine inch sign. Were there not large June teeth flags?
I challenge you the press, look into their backgrounds, find anything they've
done in their lives. They're fifty plus years lives. That's racist. Okay,
worst thing that guy could have said, right, because oh, I'm
not racist. Ask anybody, most likely you're race. Still at the same
press conference, well twenty five minutes later and Sturney Corey Hogan said this,
Mary Dicasia has a Twitter account. It's racist. Well, thanks for giving
us the evidence. This is like a Saturday Night Live sketch. I go,
you just fired yourself. Sure, the attorney not, she has it.
It's racist. Full disclosure. UM, I do have a Twitter parody
account that operates under a veil of a persona, and I have made blatantly
racist comments under that persona. Okay named the persona. She says she stood
right there at this press conference, and she said it twenty five minutes in.
The lawyer says that she gets up and says this after him. This
is all real. I'm the attorney knew this going in and still made that
stupid Steve. Yeah, yeah, I tell you he had to write whoa.
Mary Nicolsa apologized and said her husband did not know about the account.
Okay, my bad. If you say okay, okay, you just gotta
be bullshit, do you? Right? Come on, Matt, no way,
you've been married. I'm married, Kevin's married. You know when somebody
has an account, right, I didn't know if Mark has a Twitter account.
Yeah, but now if it were a parody account, I wonder if
I mean he I have just paused this and it's in front of me from
it's on YouTube. You can go look it up yourself. Uh. The
look on his face when she says or that he didn't know about it,
Berkeley's you have to see the look like he looks like he could shoot lasers
out of his eyes. How pissed would you be? The husband looks like,
yeah, how pissed would you be if you if you didn't know if
there was a parody account. It's possible. It is possible that you're not
checking her Twitter and you know you're all day long, and you know,
do we know what that parody twitter was called? I'm curious to see if
it's still Oh no, that's god. Somebody did have it there. I
used to know it. But nonetheless I hold myself accountable. I'm ashamed.
This wasn't an easy thing to do to get up here and tell you this,
and I asked that you accept my apology as it is since here,
The lawyer went on to try to explain what you post on Twitter and how
you behave in real life can be different. Yeah. Sure, we'll think
of all the Twitter you know, all the warriors that say all this nasty
shit. They won't say it to your face. But they'll say it there
doesn't mean they don't believe it. Thought. The lawyer from Jared Jones,
Nate McMurray, tweeted this quote. The NICOLSA has verified everything in our complaint,
in addition that they verified that they operate a racist Twitter account. We
will use their press conference now. Again. The only reason to bring this
up today is to just say that I do think there is a sentiment with
people that don't appreciate the holiday as it is, and it is one that
we aren't educated on him. We should be right, and I think most
people don't know. And I think again, if you went on the street
and the people, they're not gonna know. And let's let's be honest.
I mean with that video, Yellopean was really actually kind of educating me,
but he could have done it a little bit nicer. Yes, I mean,
yes, I mean you know, I mean he did tell me what
it was. Yeah, I'll admit I'm not I'm not educated on it.
I don't think most people are, and I and I don't. I mean,
I guess we can't really use ignorance as an excusive that I don't know,
but we didn't it wasn't part of history classes that I the emancipation problem
there was, that was right. I think I knew two years later slavery
ended in Texas. I remember that it was like word of mouth. News
didn't travel certainly, not like it does today. But then I don't remember
a June teenth thing. I think the first time I heard of Juneteenth was
probably ten and eleven years ago, really, because the first time I heard
it was when I drove through a parade. It's probably four or five for
me. And it's also the same time I found out about it, right,
And I feel bad about that, of course, And I'm not even
trying to like I yes, So the thing is, I guess I would
ask maybe we need to educate and have have a little bit of patience with
people, don't I mean, I don't really watch the news, but do
they talk about the reason behind us? There was a concert, there was
a show, there was a celebration. Is this what they're doing? There
are celebrations, wends, they say why Juneteenth is a part of things?
I don't know in the news if they did or didn't. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't watch it, but yeah, I'm sure there's not
enough out there, right, there's not enough out there, and so yet
is things like this where people mocking and don't fully fully you know, realize
what it was. And I think it put great trauma on uh culture people.
Right, this poor man thirty two years of business, his wife killed
it in thirty seconds. Who pretty much now the thing is still they still
live on East Avenue. I didn't know if they would leave or not.
And I'm sure they have friends who maybe don't aren't like minded like this or
agree even with her, but I'm sure they you know, I don't want
to turn their back on him. I don't know. I don't know how
you walk around the thing is. I think most people have forgotten about that
story. I totally forgot about it. I didn't obviously. I didn't,
only because it was one of those ones that I went, holy shit,
you just said this and then this and this, and it all kind of
centered around today because they had the June and he's even going it was a
small Juneteenth sign. Okay, well let's not you know, it's like right,
because you know there was the thing, it'd be a huge sign.
It's like, let's not split here. Well, I had no idea.
When they said the flag, I didn't even know a flag existed. But
that apparently is the Juneteenth flag. Okay, I didn't know that. Okay,
I'm seeing that pop up on my computer. It's right down in the
left hand. Uh yeah, so they put it automatically popped up on my
Okay, So okay, it looked I didn't know that there was a Juneteenth
flag. Did not either. We all learned something today, right, in
a good way. Let's go home our friend e j uh well, check
in with him in like fifteen minutes or so. Okay, you're right with
that. Yeah, Well, he just wanted to he was going to talk
about Juneteenth and basically how basically I think was like people didn't know. No,
they didn't, right, I like Matt, and I just said we
I didn't know. Tollay, you know, ran over a parade and he
didn't know till after parade. Well, you didn't run over a parade,
I'm just you drove down a street the same He didn't realize the street was
closed. It wasn't closet, it wasn't officially closed, right, right.
They turned this into a federal holiday very quickly. Yes, so much so
that I don't think that in order to have parades and things, I don't
know that there was enough time really and it was a weekend and yeah that
was not they even Yeah, I just right, was there a parade this
weekend? Yeah? Yeah, I believe it was, which but that would
all be planned and right, but we don't know about well marked off.
There would be a police officers. You got it, you got it,
you got it. That's that's the thing. That's it. I just love
seeing the squirre a little bit. I'm not why am I squirming. I
don't know. I just it's just like, of all the people I know,
the guy that will go yes, he's totally innocent. I know you
are. That's the thing. He would never ever ever do that. I
thought, even on the tape when we played it, you were very polite.
I was still play. Yeah, we'll get him on the show,
are we interesting to see? He does the radio show himself. He does
yeah over and uh over by actually by Clinton Avenue. There's a urban radio
station that he does stuff with. So not Decay. No, it's a
different Yeah, this is what one might I don't know, it might be
it's more of a public access one though, Okay, I don't. I
don't know. Well, if you find them, I know, I'd love
to get him on. I can email them right now. All right,
Well, we'll see what we can get him on. Uh, I'm calling
it tonight. Kevin and I had you can try Kevin and I had delicious
And I've been wanting to try this for a while. The chicken French melt
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I'm just saying I don't know, because well they haven't. And you
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People people sit out there during the beginning of football season. Yeah, of
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The last year till November out because you know what last year, you
forget the fall was real nice. Yeah, it was so until fall,
like November, it was about fifty degrees out. People that still stand outside
and watch those TVs. I don't know where anybody stands on global warming,
but they're too Yeah, I'm not a cold weather not okay with that,
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That's the way it is these days. Though away Well, yeah, I
mean, i'll, i'll, i'll. I always worried that when I say
things about radio in particular, that people people think that I'm I'm bitter or
upset or whatever. There were a lot of rumors as to why I'm not
on the radio, and uh, I did the rumors right, nobody's business.
No, they were just rumors. So, um, I came here,
I started this and uh because of the barrier to entry? Yeah much
easy. Yeah, he's fuck you because I always said the barrier to entry
and this stuff is done and they made it into a drinking game, so
anytime I said it. But I don't think like talk radio will ever be
dead. I think that people like like that. You know. The cool
thing with podcast is on demand, and I think that a lot of the
radio companies are also doing podcasting, and I think you're starting to see the
value in that. And that spoken word where I think radio may change a
little bit is is the music side of things. I don't know how it
plays anymore because you've got all these streaming services, and now you've had the
first AI DJ right where a girl went in and she read for two hours.
And I always I was thinking about the sec of this porter. I
saw this on Twitter and she just got just eviscerated on Twitter at age as
up and she was saying, hey, I'm history, and I think they
were calling her AI Ashley. So it's not even as though they're lying.
But when she made a call as Ai Ashley, and I go, I
don't know if the technology is that advanced that they could understand, you know,
you could respond that well. Some people are questioning it. We played
it on here and she gave away Taylor Swift tickets and people were really upset.
But I go, look, I was on eighty something stations for iHeart.
Yeah, eighty stations, right. I was in Huntsville, and I
was in uh, parts of Florida and Texas and California and Alaska. Right,
So it's the same thing, see kind of homogenized stuff. I do
think you're going to see radio go back to smaller models. I think it's
sometimes when you know any company, any I don't care if it's radio.
I'm not even picking on them. I'm just saying you get so big that
you won't have shareholders, and you start to dance to the tune of that
instead of the tune of the people who want to who want to listen,
and I think you start to, you know, lose. Some people in
the local personalities are dying, though they are slowly. One step, one
punch, one round, thank god one But yeah, talk about him,
but I go, I just the bee has never been better your best.
Well, yeah, but he's going to do a podcast too, right is
he? I don't know. He's as good as you're plumbing. I don't
know. Yeah, well, I thought he was doing a podcast thing.
I have no idea what was going on. I have no I always liked
him. I don't know him well, but I always liked him. Chris
right, yeah, oh am, I stepping into a beehive here. I
didn't even know, did I. Well, you do any plumbing in your
house should be Oh shit, I forgot, You're right, I did forget
about that. I'm sorry. Holding patiently through all this nonsense is our friend
EJ. And EJ has been on before, and I always think of EJ
as uh and maybe I'm saying this wrong, Eja, and I hope you
don't see it this overseam. But a bit of a scholar, you have
a scholarly way about you. You have a way of talking. And we
had Mark on Uh and told us the story in the past about his Juneteenth
mishap uh and I think innocent mistake at the time, Uh. And then
he was a little bothered by the way he was confronted, and so you
know, that's it. And then so we we explained to you. But
I thought you and I had talked, and I played the Nicosia audio that
was the people who were having some kind of party and I think it was
July when they actually had it, but there were some Juneteenth references and things.
And the only reason I did that is I think most people, if
you went on the street DJ today, don't know even though it's a federal
holiday for the past few years, don't know what it is. And then
I think there's also people who think come on a day for them. Do
you understand what I'm saying? And I really do, And that's why I
played the Nicosia audio to go, hey, I'm not I don't know these
people. Maybe they're very nice to your face that you could probably have a
lot of fun with them in a bar. But we kind of see the
underbelly of somebody, and you know, you shy away. But I think
there are a lot of people who think like that. So I thought it
would be good for you maybe to tell us sometime the importance as a black
man, the importance of Juneteenth, because really it's about, you know,
news didn't spread or did it or was it considered fake news back in eighteen
sixty four, when what was the eighteen sixty three the the Emancipatient Proclamation gets
signed, but Texas doesn't free it slaves until eighteen sixty five. Well,
first and foremost, let's um, let's quote everyone's favorite president, Well Bill,
fake news is everywhere now, I'm kidding for centuries apparently. Oh I
loved Trump, guys, just quickly. I really loved Trump. That dude
was a show twenty four hours a day. Just just loved him. Anyway,
he still kind of anyway he really he is. And yeah, so
uh it's funny. I was actually just um watching a podcast, the video
podcast that I watched each week, and they were talking about the long,
long history of Juneteenth, and the reality is first and foremost what is described
by most people as Juneteenth as occurring on one day. That is how Texas
has defined it, because Texas was the last place where the Emancipation Proclamation was
read, was discussed, was discussed, and so black folks, how did
you believe? You know, we're free, We're free, we were out
of this mess. However, as time progressed towards that date, there are
jubilee celebrations that go throughout the years UM in black communities throughout the United States,
based on when they actually received the notice that the Emancipation Proclamation was ratified.
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the celebration because I don't really
know the history of it up here, but it wouldn't surprise me if the
July celebration that um he encountered was probably a jubilie celebration associated with the Emancipation
Proclamation. Oh, I don't know. This was a private party that he
went too, Yes, and it would be it would be a community thing.
Um, this is white folk making fun. Yeah, the Niac thing
was white folk making fun. And that's why I wanted to play the audios
because they had a jute sign there they were. They were poking fun at
it. Okay, I mean I can't say that any other way. Fun
and so and they had you know, I mean, look, she says
in the press conference on another news channel where they had buckets of Kentucky fried
chicken, and he said, you're not allowed to laugh at that. Jesus,
can we say watermelon is gonna laugh too? I think I think so.
Wait, so, she says, She says, I'll fin I gotta
find the other audio. She says, uh, yeah, we had buckets
of rye chicken, not because I'm racist, but because it's an easy meal.
That's what she said. That's what she said. And she made the
black fire fighter at teobox too, didn't ye. Yeah, yeah, y'all
kill me. We're not. I'm not trying to kill you, and I'm
not even trying to make fun. I'm just saying, like I do believe
that there is still some underlying racist. Is it to the point where uh,
don't come in here, you're not you're not welcome. No, But
is there this underlying thing where we kind of poke fun? Yeah, And
I think that that's still smacks of smacks of racism. Oh, you're absolutely
right. But see the reason why it's killing me is because I love people
like that, I really do, because they think they're insulting me, where
I'm just like, thank you for being so open and out front. See,
I tell my wife, I tell my white friends this. I respect
the Nazis and the clansmen. What because they were they were Yeah, because
they were up front about the Yeah. But one of the things that drives
me the craziest is I have friends who purport to be pretty liberal, but
when you dig down deep enough into them, it's like, dude, you
hold some very racist views. Like give me, give me an example of
something like, let's say, like you dig down deep and what would be
a racist view that some white people have that maybe they don't see as racist.
The the tough on crime is one of my favorites because a lot of
white people love the whole tough on crime stuff. When crack was ravaging the
black community back in the late eighties, the early nineties, the mid nineties,
okay, throw him away, lock him up. Once. When opioids
hit the scene ran through white community, same thing is happening. Oh,
now we need to get them in treatment. We gotta help these poor people
food. He's dead hunting wow e J e J. Yeah. Yeah,
we gotta lock up the crackheads, man, you better believe that. And
I'm saying, so wait to throw wa opioid people too. I'm good with
it, you know what I mean. That's that's that's a fair point.
I didn't even I guess see it that way. And you're right, I
mean, what's what's the Densil Washington movie where he basically runs a drug cartel
and he sells it back to the city and somebody, you're American gangs,
American gangster. You're ruining your own people like you're you're killing your own people.
Right, Yeah, that's that's interesting. Okay. But however, and
I gotta point this out, when it comes to crack cocaine, we always
have to remember that was the CIA. That was literally the CIA pumping cocaine
into the inner cities. They developed crack and they basically showed us how to
do it and then just kept running cocaine into our communities. So we can
put the stuff together. Hang on conspiracy theory. Oh no, no,
no, Gary Webb did Gary Webb did the work on this. He actually
won a couple of awards on it. There's a book which I'm completely forgetting
the name of it. His name is Gary Webb. I'm gonna do a
little research on it because I don't I don't know anything about this and I'm
not making I don't know about that. But when you say this, yes,
this is gonna go, it's gonna feel like I'm heading to left field
bit, but just stay with it. It feels like it was a government
experiment. Is that fair or not? With the CIA? Absolutely? Okay.
So I watched the Arnold documentary. They had the documentaries on Netflix,
Arnold schwartzen Ing. Yeah, absolutely fucking loved it. I watched the twice.
Yeah, and it talks about his bodybuilding, then how he moved to
acting, and then how he moved to be the governor, and how some
people who were Democrats and he was a Republican feel like he advanced California almost
twenty five years with some of the things he implemented. But he was in
the movie Twins, and it was one of the comedies he wanted to see.
He wanted to show that he was more than just this action guy.
So he just Twins smash movie it's on It's on Netflix. It'll be taken
off at the end of June, so if you want. I had to
watch it the other night. Right. Wo government experiment Okay, sounds bullshit,
right, They're gonna pray, try to make build the perfect human.
There's a documentary on who right now about triplets that were born taken from their
mother and they wanted to the government wanted to do an experiment one of them.
One of the triplets went to a wealthy family, went to a middle
class family, went to a poor family. Yep, and it's on Hulu.
You can watch the document And the government fucking did that. I'm familiar.
Wins was in nineteen eighty eight, right, yeah, and I know
I thought that was almost So My only reason for that long story is to
say maybe they maybe maybe the CIA was involved, I don't know. Well
now, when it came to crack cocaine, you gotta understand the reason supposedly
why they did it was because they wanted to launder the money to rebels in
I think South America somewhere, and Congress had cut the funds off, so
they were like, hey, this is an easy way to make money.
Well, just South stuff to black people and then take some money and ship
it overseas and that Oh my god, this is the most horrible. This
is even worse. Man Yeah, wow, oh my god. I think
they're doing that City Roster with kids. Yeah yeah, wow, Heroin Yeah,
okay, Yeah, there was actually an investigation. Um. It was
weird because right when they started kind of getting deep into the Reagan administration trying
to investigate that stuff, then they kind of fizzled out in the media stopped
covering it. And but if you so rap music in the early nineties the
late eighties, rap music talked constantly about the fact that these drugs were not
being produced in the community. It was stuff being shipped in. Wow.
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of I always felt like rap music
was, um what what folk music was to white folk telling the story.
You know what I'm saying, I don't know how to say. I hope
that doesn't sound stupid, actually, but I feel like they were telling about
their community, what was affecting their lives right when we hear you know,
whether it be I don't know, Joan Bayaz, Bob Dylan, whoever,
more of a folks style, they were telling you stuff that was happening in
the world. And it's funny you see that. I just watched I watched
the biggie movie Notorious, and they just watched today. Um go on with
Tupac. Yes, exactly what. You're really glad you did that. Exactly
what you're saying. I did it a long time ago. Just for the
record, Listen, I've always been a big hip hop and yeap guy,
okay, back in the eighties and nineties and I and you know what,
they tell a story and you watched the Tupac uh documentary. Now it's amazing.
What is that on? It's on Hulu. I think it isn't everything
everything. I'm gonna get it from my birthday. It might be Netflix.
No, it was on Paramount, Oh Paramount or no, I'm sorry,
peacock, Peacock. What we're gonna get you a whole accounty account. Here's
here's the thing, man, it's only me being a dick. I feel
like I have so many streaming services like fucking doing right more I'm not doing.
Spectrum was two hare dollars a month. Now I was paying two houre
dollars a month for probably streaming service. I'm kind of yeah, I'm EJ.
I even signed up for rocket money, so they just sent me think
rocket money, what it does. It just kind of looks at all your
subscriptions and stuff. It just sent me anything going. Are you aware of
all the UDEs? So I go, I don't want to want more?
All right, EJ. This is this is an interesting thing. And I
always like when you're on for for exactly this purpose. Because I didn't know
about that and uh, what was the gentleman's name again? Gary Webb?
Gary Webb, I'll remember that. You me that pen right there? You
remember that. Unfortunately Gary Webb passed away, uh a couple of decades ago.
Unfortunate. But the stuff is out there. What he wrote, yeah,
yeah, yeah, the book is. The book is great. The
books in fact, just just quickly to wrap that up, the book caused
such a stir. So he was an investigative journalist and that's how all of
this started. And the book was so impactful. The CIA, I believe
the literal director of the CIA under Bill Clinton had to go to I think
it was Englewood to watch one of those communities and literally sit there in field
questions about whether or not it was them who caused the cracked epidemic in the
community. And I've seen the video. The guy looks guilty, looks guilty,
maybe very uncomfortable. Okay, because I was going to ask you,
Gary, I was Okay, I'm looking at a picture of Gary Webb,
and I was going to ask you was he a white guy? And the
only reason I asked that is because, as an investigative journalist, does it
pack a little more punch to you if it's a white guy, which sounds
terrible or well, they're all about seventy eighty years old though, when they're
a journalist and they're white. This guy was like Harry Young white Yeah,
yeah, yeah, and he was quite young. And it's actually black.
The black press has produced some amazing investigative journalists. So as long as the
information is credible, that's what I care about. Like, I love Pro
Publica for that. I'm with you on whether the information is credible. I
only said is he white? Only because I do think there's a segment of
the white population. Goal is to my point, conspiracy black guy? Yeah,
well yeah, yeah, because I like it. Does it sounds like
a conspiracy theory? And then if we had a black journalist that did it.
We would go, oh, he's just trying to make this up,
to make right whatever, and that's a good I don't. I don't think
that way. I'm just maybe I do because I did say it right right,
I'm going along. You know what, here's the head I'm thinking,
and this is terrible. My grandfather, my grandfather, whose mother was from
Ireland, came over seventeen, worked her ass off to bring over her sisters
and her family and all that stuff. He was one of the most I'm
loving, wonderful man m New York City fireman, Eje racist man. Yeah,
and I'll never forget. He was dying EJ. He was dying of
cancer. I went down. I'm nineteen. I love I love the guy.
And he used to take the Yankee games. I was so my grandmother
says, take the boy for a sandwich. That was always I was the
boy. So we're going for a sandwich. It's a hot summer day.
He dies in August. This is July. It's like, wow, maybe
two weeks before he dies. And there it's a hot day. There's a
kid out more on the lawn and he goes, look at look at that
good boy on the lawn. For his dad buddy buddy still a yeah,
wow, yeah, yep, and e J I remember going, oh my
god, oh my god, this is like nineteen like, oh my god,
Yeah, it's a terrible So the reason I'm saying that is I do
think that if this book came out as many decades ago as you said,
I think if it was a black journalist, it would be met with a
lot of skepticism. I can I understand that, and I will let me
let me help you with the little bit of that feeling of like, oh
my god, I'm kind of thinking like my grandfather, that actually is quite
helpful because I know what not to do. Well. Not only that,
but you can actually, through thinking the way that your grandfather thought, you
can help white people who think that way today kind of crawled their way out.
One of the reasons I loved you when you were on the radio,
and why I still recommend your podcast to this day, is because you speak
in a very ordinary way, and you speak to white people in phrases and
terminologies that not only they can understand, but they don't find it threatening.
So the way that you think white people are black people white people, white
people don't find me threatening. How could they possible as white people aren't very
smart to see. You know, I find but I don't pick up because
I like you. I got a class for you. Yeah, all right,
Mark, how are you doing? Good man? Um, so we
were talking, how do you pronounce Juneteenth? Can I say to you happy
Juneteenth? Or is it like Memorial Day? We just don't you know,
well, Memorial Day, you wouldn't say happy whether you were just about to
be a memorial Yes, let me. How do you want to say it?
Well, I want to, I don't. He wanted to call it
Monday. I want to. I feel like it, but you may not
want to say that. Was it like our July fourth? I guess you're
asking in the in the community, like we would say happy fourth of July,
So you could say you could say happy Juneteenth if you want to.
I mean, it's it's interestinate you say, is it like our Fourth of
July? Because that was part of the video podcast that I was actually watching.
Um, it's a great point because it's I mean, look, the
fourth of July is about freedom. Yeah, I feel it. That's all
races, right, It's it's USA things in the in the black community.
But it wasn't all races when we went well that it was two hundred years
right, He's true though, right, yeah, right, So you guys,
look, is it a celebration for you guys or for everybody? I
should say everybody? I don't want to. I don't want I don't want
say anything wrong here, No, no, no, no. Is a
celebration or is it a morning? How is it for you guys? It
depends, It depends it for black people. It depends on what we are
talking about when it comes to June Team or did you believe for us?
There is a lot of things that's tied up into and including the fact that
oftentimes people think of June Team says, oh, well, this is when
the Emancipation Proclamation made it to Texas. Well, No, it's when a
bunch of black soldiers who had just got done whipping the hell out of white
people got down to got down to Texas and said, y'all are free.
Ye, y'all are free. Now. I said that to a friend of
mine, and he said, you were a little bit too happy with the
whole whipping of white people. Well, yes I was, Yes, I
was, Yes I was because they had no problem within me so I'm good
with that. But but there's there's all of those emotions that come with that,
and there's all of the mornings and the joyousness and the sadness, and
that was the beginning of a very long process of trying to put lives back
together. Well, here's the way I almost see it, DJ and I
don't know this is a fair comparison or not, but a lot of people
one of their favorite movies is Shawshank Redemption. And what Shawshank Redemption showed a
lot of people who aren't familiar with the prison system is when you get out,
you've been in a structured life for many, many years. Let's say
you were in for twenty years. Now you get out, you're at a
halfway house. There's no structure, you're locked. You don't know what to
do. You have taken people who were marginalized, right, they did all
the all the dirty work, so to speak, and now they're free.
What do they do? I don't think. Now, I gotta think if
you were a freed slave so confused and scared, you know, what's fun?
What would you do? Though, this was actually the topic of last
year's video and the year before that of the same podcast series that I referenced
earlier. We actually so realized when when black people were enslaved, when Africans
were enslaved, we had tons to do. We were not only just working
on the plantations. We did all kinds of professional jobs. We were on
ships, we did everything. And so when we were freed, we did
everything still, plus built our own communities, so we weren't as confused and
scared. Obviously there had to be a little bit of fear with it,
but we had things that we wanted to do. We wanted to get our
families back together. That was one of the biggest problem jects over the first
ten years was getting people's lineages back together because families were all scattered. They
were sold everywhere, right, So they had to do that. They had
to build their communities, They had to get financing for schools, They built
industries and the beautiful story of reconstruction that is not told very well, but
it is told very well by W. E. B. Du boys.
We say du boys, but I know he's French, so he's going to
be du bois. Well that's don't know, it's true though, But we
did a lot of building and a lot of constructing, and once when reconstruction
ended, we were still building, we were still putting our lives together,
but then we were under attack a lot more after reconstruction. So June Team's
kind of encapsulates a lot of that. Yeah, and I think that we
call it Juneteenth only because I don't know that they know the exact dates of
different states. That there's all kind of that. The amanced based acclamation was
declared right came down and said, hey, we're free. So he wrote
Juneteenth as no specific day. Is that right or wrong? That's incorrect.
Juneteenth comes from the actual people in Texas that was there. That was how
they colored it. That was how they colored it, Okay, And so
the other jew belies take place, but it's not specifically a June Team celebration.
Got you okay? All right? This is what we need someone like
ja. Well that's why I'm being dead serious. I know you are.
I've been so educated right now, and I'm understanding a lot more, you
know, because we're having a discussion, you know, not a camera in
front of my face and stuff like that. You know. Yeah, I
mean he's been so everything about this has been great. I mean I've learned
so so much. Yeah from him, So let me statch twenty men are
not going to draft through a te't know, st Patrick, Yeah, you
save it for that actually, so let me let me say something just really
quickly to that, because um, there's quick that is so true that you're
right, you know you're right. I'm kind of like a Baptist preacher,
weird. Brevity is not my gift. So uh, But it's funny because
over the last couple of years in the community, there has been this question
of that we've been discussing as to the role that we black folks have to
play in educating white folks. And it's it's a very interesting concept because I've
been educating people all my lives or or or I've been trying to educate folks
all my life. Uh, and there's a I think where we're starting to
get tired of the education because it's not necessarily working. Yeah, and so
I'm still open to do things like this because I want it to work,
but I also know that it's not working as quickly as it needs to.
Well, I mean, ej it, it took two years to get to
Texas. It's going to take a couple of years yeah, you're celebrating it
when it happened in Texas, the most racist state in the country. Right,
we're celebrating that. Why don't we celebrate what happened two years before that?
I think only because it didn't I think that was the official end though.
Texas was the last stronghold, So we celebrate now it's you know,
throughout the United States, everybody is free, and they hadn't done it prior
to that, EJ. No, ye is that right now? What actually
happened is there probably would have been a marking for the Antipation Proclamation, but
frankly, black folks were like, we're just going to celebrate this because we
want to celebrate it. They didn't expect the Nation America to pick it up.
It was just something that we did. And then Joe Biden came along
and was like, yeah, this is a good idea national proclamation, it's
a national holiday. Yeah, yeah, I agree, EJ. This has
been enlightening. Yeah. I really appreciate it absolutely, my brother. You
know, I'm available to you whenever you need me. All right, well,
we'll have to do something again because I do think you have a way
of of uh yeah, and you don't threaten the white folk. You know
there's no threat. You know you can't fun with him. I do threaten
the white folk. No, you could definitely beat his ass. EJ.
I'm telling you right now. We'll talk soon. Absolutely, man, have
a good night, guy YouTube. Thank you. There he goes EJ.
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If you guys are fantastic and be sure to like and subscribe to Bilified wherever
you get your podcast, Mark, somebody sent me something I thought of you
immediately, of course, I know, I know. Somebody said, and
I'm going to show you the pictures just so you know I'm not lying.
But this was on somebody's Facebook. They have their wife tied up in bondage
and stuff like. I don't know if I can while this is okay,
thank you, because I know people who've gotten into what they call Facebook jail
for last So I've been there a few times. Can you have yeah for
saying talked about this Bill is there at remembers back. Look look at this
they have her hair tied her. Look at that she's in panties like her
hair is tied to her ankles, trying to figure out. I know I
am probably she probably Look at this one, she's naked in the woods,
tied up bondage, all bondage style and then the woods. Yeah Jesus,
And this one's outside and this is all on there. And I thought to
myself, that was on somebody's Facebook page. Now this person happens to be
down in the Fulton, Syracuse area. I don't want to I don't want
to say their name. I'll show you I'm sorry. I didn't mean well
more than one room, I guess later, don't worry about it, won't
be crapy. Give me the name was it the guy? Was it the
husband or boyfriend? It was a husband, so that his Facebook? Yeah,
and he put it up there those pictures. Yeah. Now, I
don't know now if I type the guy's name into my Facebook and I'm not
friends with him, I didn't see those pictures. These pictures were sent to
me and the supposedly on Facebook, and they're on there and I and all
I can think is if that's on there, is that an advertisement that you're
a swinger? What is that? Why would you do that? Just because
you do bondies does not necessarily mean you're a swinger. I understand that,
But why would you put that picture of your wife? You saw it with
pretty much I think, I swear to guy Matt, Yes, you're saying
it, guys, we are swingers something or I want you to share my
wife. That's what you're saying. Basically, Well, what would your family
say if like you know what I'm saying, Like, there's hell, you
know what I mean? You should hear when my family said about me yesterday
so I mean, what did your family said? His father say, I'm
joking because they all listen to uh, because I'm thinking this. You can't
comment on the photo. What do you say, Oh, that's great.
There's nothing you can say, hey, great sailor, it's not that.
How long did that? Maybe when you say, man, she looks great,
then you get the DM. Well that's what you do. See,
He's as the point, you never comment. When you want to make a
comment to somebody that's to get something going, you always go to the d
M. You always go to the d M. Absolutely, you don't comment
on the picture. You go to the d M and tell them you like
there, Yes, I was saying, you comment, and then the husbands
you do it. You you go right to the DM right and then either
you get a response or not. Actually, some of my success is doing
exactly that through the DMS. Something I like, some of this see something
you're like, he's like the Tony Robbins of bondage of her, the bondage.
I mean, I don't know. I didn't know what to think of
that. I mean, she looked like a deer about to be I just
I just don't like. I just don't I don't stand that. Shut up.
Well that's called a beust. Actually, mark on the bonus thing,
I don't get it. Well, don't you like when someone can touch you
back? Don't you like to feel the other person touching you? Weah,
yeah, that's it's a weird thing. Take an advantage of them. But
if they like people get off on what they do apparently, I mean,
yeah, we say it like, I know, I don't know what I
don't mean. I apologize that I can't help you with this. Well,
no, it's not that. I mean because I'm thinking, what is the
weirdest thing you've seen on Facebook? Where'st thing I've seen? Yeah, like
that would be the weirdest thing, would be the worst shod driving through a
Juneteenth parade? Are on Facebook? Instagram is more. You can give more
away with Instagram, which is funny because their own by the same people.
Right, wait, how do you know that? Okay, No, I'm
not trying to be funny. I'm actually because well, wait, you bring
up a good point. I think a lot of times they'll say, uh,
did you see the UF news sites? Legitimate news sites, I don't
know, legitimate, but they put something out that says check out UFC Fighter
or whoever whoever right now in her bikini shots, or she sets the internet
ablaze in her bikini shots and they're all on Instagram, they're on the Gram.
So is that what you mean? I've said this before, I think
so I might be repeating myself. Okay, I won't remember. Okay,
what you do? Welcome to the club. What do you do? And
a girl from Only Fans who I knew, told me this, and she's
and she makes a lot of money, so she she entices through these other
sites, TikTok. She starts at TikTok because you can't take your clothes off,
but you can do you can tease. Then she'll tease to go on
and you call it teascock and she'll go on. She'll say, come on
Instagram and you can see more. So you go on Instagram and you can
see more? Then what is the more? They can show them there?
Like do you see? Yeah? You see? But then they'll say,
all right, come over to my only fans and then you go the only
Fans. It's like ten dollars to join, got you? So that's they
worked the whole They worked the whole thing because most guys, I can't cleend
no money. Well we'll do that. Well, I've already done it this
far. I want to see what else she does. Then the only fans,
so only fans at ten dollars, is at a monthly fee. Yeah,
sometimes it's different though. There's a girl I know that's fucking charging forty
and I don't know who the fuck's gonna do forty with that. Yeah,
but for forty, are you getting like one on one session. No,
it's like I don't even know. I've never this is what you do.
Let's say you paid um twenty dollars. Yeah, you go twenty dollars and
you go in there and pretty much you get a couple, you know,
pictures of them, regular pictures of clothes and stuff. Dan, they'll send
you a link and it says unlocked. For thirty dollars you can see them.
Wait, so for ten dollars, you're just seeing what you can see
on Instagram. Yes, that's really a little bit more because there's no there's
no penniless shots I've ever said right now, I mean, you're the only
single one here, actually Mark single, So yeah, maybe he can use
his only fans. I want to see I've been on any of these,
right, So for ten dollars, fucking lame? You don't you get fully
clothed? I mean, why am I pay? Get a little? All
right? I should say you get a little more erotic stuff, but you
don't get the good stuff unless you pay extra extra. That's how they want,
like a video or something, a video of them having sex, them
having you know, or showering, or they do a thing. Pay fifty
dollars and you can watch him, you know, watch him in the room
with some dude or something something like that. So that's how they make their
money. But it's not. But when you join, you could have saved
so much money if you do what's that? I could enough, you could
expensively fifty dollars you were paying. But hold on, he's not wrong,
and he didn't have to hold fifty dollars a lot. But all of a
sudden it's fifty dollars, then the next day it's fifty dollars, then one,
So you got a problem. Yeah, but how many times? Wait,
how many times did you pay to watch somebody wants? But that's not
the point. At least does it run out halfway to the videos? Video
three hundred dollars to watch somebody wants it's a lot cheaper to pay fifty dollars
to watch that video, right, But most of the time, well I
usually do know who it is. But Mark has been known the video.
Yes, yes, now on Only Fans? Do you know the girl as
well? Yes? Yeah? The girls? The girls I go on our
girls? I know? Okay, so there there's a subscription to them?
No, no, no, nope. Are there a lot of so you
can go out there for free? I don't know. I don't know.
What I do is they usually do when they start it out, they do
a seven trailer or something. They do a seven day I would think,
almost like a movie trailer, and they do a seven day trial they practice
from Mark, and then they go to the should they give you seven months?
And then they go to the show? Yeah? Okay. How many
girls do you know that are on Only Fans? Well, can you give
me a number? I'm gonna see three right now? Okay, there's more
than that. Well, I'm sure there is, but I don't know any
that the way to us. I can tell you this hands works. Want
me to have one of them call? Yes? I think that's a great
idea. Fucking hey, no, do it. Let's see if we can
get him now. Damn. Well, do you think we were right in
the conversation? If not, Mark the right or maybe they wanted to see
their name because more subscribers. That's a good point too, because a lot
of people listen right now. They are very perverted. Yes, there are,
and they're gonna watch. Uh. Mark, this is interesting that I
have another question for you because I saw something on a on a podcast on
TikTok and it was two women talking and they said when they were in high
school, there would be a bunch of guys and girls hanging out. Some
of the girls like the guys, but nothing, you know. So the
guys would be in the front seat and the girls were all in the backseat,
and the guys would drop the girls off, and one of the girls
would leave her phone behind on record underneath the seat, and then they would
wait about five minutes and call the guys and from one of the other girl's
phones and say, hey, you know, Sue or Marry or whatever left
her phone, actually left her phone in the car, can you bring it
back? So and one of the girls said yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, they also know exactly what the guys were talking about after they got
out of the car. Yes, so the girl said, sometimes you got
your feelings crushed because they weren't saying it to your face, but they were
going, oh yeah, you know, like but there was always like pancakes.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, big fat friend, all that ship.
So how wild? I mean? So here was my I thought of you
instantly. Again, I don't know why. I go. I wonder if
Mark ever left the phone behind it, And then I thought, well,
Mark wouldn't be with another person, so we'd have to email. Hey,
I left my phone. No, I go, wait a second email?
Fuck you remember? Could you imagine to my phone? The guy's like,
no, it's you drunk to drive back? Did you? But would you
ever curious about what people said when you left after one of these episodes?
Or did you care? I didn't fucking work with you guys. I've worked
with you assholes my whole life. What does that mean? When I walk
out of a room, everybody talks about everybody, So I don't give a
shit. I guess you know what I'm saying. Everybody. You know I
don't remember any really bad Most of the best stuff that was ever said about
you always said right to you. Wait, you didn't really think about it
though, Like after you left this couple right and you watched them, I
would want stupid perverted fock or something like that. I would be wondering.
I would be wondering. Did they think it was a little very Okay,
I don't care. I don't care. You guys, what about what I'm
gone? What about what I'm thinking? You know that guy really sucked?
Yeah, it was fucking terrible. Yeah, freaking girl. She had way
more sellutly than I thought. Fucking stupid pictures. He's still Lane, just
laying there. She didn't make any noise. Did you ever tell any couple
they were boring? I don't know. I mean no, did you,
I mean in your head? Did you ever think that when there was a
couple that was boring? Yeah? Yeah, surek At tricked by the spanks,
like she looks so good at the bar and then all of a sudden
the spanks a well, he knows, he knows the women. You always
said you knew Mark likes to watch couples have sex, and they were being
agreement. Everything was out right and on the consenting adults. Didn't mean at
the bar per se but just out but all of a sudden, all right,
I'm just curious. I don't want to make you more uncomfortable. No,
I'm not uncomfortable. I don't care. And I could tell you a
little bit. Now. I can think of like when my my wife passed
away. I went through like what they call widowhood. Okay, that was
a whore for a summer and I remember I was like, Oh, I'm
gonna bang this girl. She's gonna be so good. Word afterwards, You're
like, what the fuck? That was so lame? So once I imagine
that one time he came back to the bar. One time he went home
with her by man having an night. He goes back like an hour later,
We're like, what are you doing back? He goes fu fuck a
hennig Or river. Wow, Wow, it was it was bad. I
had a buddy that this is terrible. But he came to my wedding.
He took somebody else's date home back to his hotel room. She was so
like wrapped up in this guy. And he was in the army at the
time in North Carolina, so he flew her down, got her like a
three day stay at a hotel, and on day two he sent her home,
Yes, sent her home. I go, who does that? Like?
Who does that? I just I'm too big a pushy. I couldn't
do it. I couldn't do it. And sometimes we have. Every human
being has found themselves in a situation where they go, how the fuck do
I get out of this? Right? But I've never been there where I'm
like, you know, I pay need to flyer down, and I'm prepared
to early. Yeah, he got her got a center. That's really bad.
It's terrible. Yeah, but that would be the way. There has
to be plenty that he saw obviously that he was like that really lame.
I thought it was gonna be better than that. Yeah, it happens.
Did you ask great money back? Yeah? Actually one time? Whoa stop
Mark, you're a fucking Did you get your money back? No? I
didn't get my money back. You do half up front or anything? No,
But that's the problem. As I told you, I'm the worst business
owner ever. Yes, well no, no, I'm different now, I'm
different. If I ever do it again, yeah, which I probably won't
because I'm only deals in bitcoin now yeah bitcoin? So um, if you
ever gets money again, he's gonna do it again. But here, here's
as you're saying this stuff, I gotta think that there's more people like you.
We now have the Internet, it's own commerce, there's it's the wild
West. There's no rules really right with any of this stuff. So what
if you went to the King Society and we had that woman in here and
there are people there that would that would be willing to let you watch like
they all Well, here's why Actually already seeing those people, that's not going
a barrier to perversion as much easier. Now he has seen those people,
he has felt and walked by them. There is no chance of marking.
But hang on, mark this is I'm thinking more of a business plan.
I'm thinking this. I'm saying that there are more people. There are people
like minded to you that would want to watch. If you went there and
you said to people, hey, they have the dungeon. She explained the
dungeon. It sounds like I know she was sort of I feel like she
was soft soapen it a little bit when she was on here. But I
think it's a bunch of people banging in front of each other, So I
think there's a little bit of exhibitionists that they liked that exhibitionism. So I
think if you were able to find those people and go, hey, look
I can get I can get people to pay you, you could be the
watch manager and I'd take ten percent. Mark. It's like promoting a band.
Mark's done that great business. Mark. Do you see what I'm saying.
I think that it is and I'm not trying. Yeah, well,
legally, I mean, it's all people consensual, right, it's all consensual.
This is all consensual. I guess you're together and and by the way
it I don't know that it is because the person isn't involved in the sex.
They're just watching these other people who are already in a relationship have sex.
Right yeah, yeah, So so Mark had actually been making money.
I'm saying, I think that there's more people here now, the fact that
you've said all this shit, right you. I think I think that the
reason why I see you knew I didn't know, right, I don't think
most people knew you. You're very tight with Mark. I think now that
Mark has said it on this podcast, has been open about it, people
right me going to love when Mark's and everything gets a little dirty, they
say that. So now that you're out there, you could and as the
promoter, I would you get in for free as the promoter. No,
he may not want to even watch these people, but somebody else, But
somebody else may. I don't know who's gonna want to watch these people.
Nor you don't get those people. You know, it's a couple of manatees
rolling around. We don't know, all right. I'm just saying it was
just a theory, just a thought, just a thought. Yeah, I
mean it's good, it's a good thought. But you know, I don't
know, all right, I don't even do that. I know. I
know you don't know. I know you don't. I wish we could do
a podcast and have the club come in sometime and you could see the people
that come in. Yeah, and you'd understand by the way, the girl
is the only fans told me the fuck up? So she did? Is
that the only one? You have? One? Tell you what if you
could, if you ever can, and if you could set something up for
maybe next Monday, I'd be happy. I would love to know more.
I'd love to know, like thing I want to promote I think didn't want
to promote page Yeah, I thought I thought, so she's like absolutely not,
and she didn't understand what a podcast was. I'd explained, it's a
it's a radio show. Well, it is funny that I think podcasts for
a lot of people are still even though we've probably have been one ten fifteen
years with podcasts, yea, that they're still fairly new to people. Right,
it's still fairly new, So that's fine. Uh. We were wondering
if you'd like to play Closest to the Pin again. All right, well
we don't have to. Oh, let's do it. Oh yeah, and
other things I can talk about. I definitely can't do better than I did
last time. In fact that he fucking won. That made me. That
actually made my heart happy and I usually never lose. It pissed me in
the fact. Why it made me happy, that is talk to me the
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you get your podcast neglected to ask how is fathers say, Matt, father's
dude is great? Yeah good. There was a nap in the middle of
it somewhere Kevin Kevin discovered espresso martinis and yeah, and then he was he
was out there for a little while, took a little nappy. Yeah,
all right, there I had seen something where um one time my dad and
people on Facebook said, finished the sentence, somebody goes. One time,
my dad caught my brother and I watching TV instead of doing our chores.
It was a little portable TV that we sat on the floor. He came
in and kicked it across the room in a wall like a soccer. Another
guy writes, one time my dad found my porn and confronted me. He
handed it back to me and said, don't let your mom find this.
Nice. That's the worst when I got my porn note, Yeah, I
got all my freaking found That was the worst moment in my life. Really,
why both and and your dad had to pretend like he was very upset.
Yeah, he didn't give a shit. Yeah, but I mean so
he took it. But first of all, how old were you, I
don't know, forty seven, pretty close. What were you like sixteen?
Sixteen? Okay, sixteen, so enough to know and you probably had a
lot of stuff. Oh I did. Yeah. I had a buddy that
worked at the lie and uh Steve Street. Uh a book yeah, the
bookstore. Used to remember that one, yes do? Yeah. So I
used to go in there and he used to hook me up. But it
didn't he have a door, like all the windows were blacked out and stuff
like. I was freaked out to go in there. I think, I
don't think so, I don't remember. I don't remember. Yeah, he
so he would hook you up. Can you imagine if your mom knew at
forty five what you were doing? Like, see what care she? You
don't think she cared the whole all right? All right? Closest to the
pen because it is marked the soldier's favorite game. Absolutely loved it. He
already got a middle finger up for us. Number one. I'm definitely losing
this week. If you wait, I'm done. I'm gonna I'm gonna try
that. You doing it? Yeah, all right? Question number one.
Brent and Wayne Gretzky hold the NHL record for most combined points by two brothers.
How many points did I have between them? Jesus? This again?
I don't even know hockey. I don't either. Fucking question number two Deaf
Leppard drummer Rick Ellen lost his left arm in a car accident. Chef in
England and New Year's Eve? What year uh Ark's doing math? He is
doing math? I'm just guessing how many active mascots are there in the NBA
active mascots in the Many teams have mascots in the NBA. So basically not
all the teams have mascots, right right, correct? So like the Toronto
Raptors have one, and then I don't believe that don't have one, don't
have one. I don't believe the Lakers do either. LAS don't think it's
a lot. The Warriors, I don't think, don't. Today. There
are a number of cheerio varieties, But what year did General Mills introduce the
cheerio? Where the fuck do you come up with these questions? X one
from Mark the leather cheerio. Mark's gonna put this one right in the hall.
Oh the cheerio, He's gonna put it right in the cheerio. Come
up, buddy, how many calories in a big mac dono? Calories?
He just eats this ship. I don't know Big mac, I figured the
sandwich, not no, no, I would say, it's gotta be damn
close. It's pretty two burgers. Oh, you're making me change my answer
hands. I'm helping you. Bill. Last, but not least, the
original run of the Friday night block known as ABC's TGIF, ran from September
of eighty nine September of two thousand. How many different series premiered during that
time? How many different series premiere in a lot of them lasted a long
time? Yeah, okay, I'm totally lost on I'm more lost than I
was last week. Every last week he crushed guests back to the top.
Breton Wayne Gratzky hold the record for most points combined by two brothers. How
many points between them? I said two thousand and thirty nine. I said
one thousand, two hundred and fifty. I said two thousand, twenty eight
sixty one. Oh, Wayne rushed Wayne Gratzky twenty eight fifty seven. Brent
four four four. That flopper drummer Rick lost his left arm? What year
eighty four? I said eighty three. I went in ninety seven. I'm
way too late. Eighty four. Goddamnit, Raychio, you got it right
in the cheerio. He crossed it out, changed it, and then went
back. So you're right. So how far off were you on the first
one? At a two thousand, it's gonna be closed hundred? Oh all
right? Oh yeah, he was way off on the first one. How
many active mascots in the NBA? I said six? I said eight,
but I don't know why I said twenty eight. Whoa whoaly shy twenty I'm
off fail twenty two. Like the Warriors don't to the Sacramental King. Wait,
the Miami Heat I think does, because didn't Connor McGregor knock it out
that we guy had to go to the hospital. I thought it was the
Miami Heat at the final. Was the Nugget I don't know. I don't
think it was the Nugget guy. But the Nuggets do have a guy.
Yeah, he's paid more than they I just saw something on net where he's
paid more than any player in the w NBA. The mask. I was
off by thirteen years on the first one, twenty two on this one,
I'm losing ground quick and rescue one because well I was ready. I was
one thousand, six hundred and I was off on that one by one thousand,
six hundred and one, and then I was off by one. So
that's one thousand, six hundred and two, three twenty two. All right,
here we go. What Cheerio did. General Mills introduced the Cheerio Mark
nineteen fifty six fifty six, I said nineteen thirty two, said seventy one,
nineteen hundred and forty one. I'm off by thirty. I'm off by
nine there, okay, how many calories in a big mac? All right?
So I originally wrote down three fifty. Then you started saying, so
I'm still in the one burger. It's okay, So I probably should have
said seven hundred up, I said six twenty five. I said fifteen ninety
two thousand. Courton McDonald's five hundred and ninety's a feeling. I'm a foul
zealing. Wow, Bill takes the fucking lead. Are you feeling now,
Mark? Yeah, there's a lot of sun there. It brings it down
a little bit. Yeah, wash it away. It's not that bad.
No, it's not bad at all. Well, you know what, it's
not bad for you? Like the burghers aren't bad. It's the fry and
the sauce is killing. The sauce including the Hughley Is Clueless, Boy Meets
World, Family Matters, Full House, and Perfect Strangers. How many different
series premiered on Friday night t GIF six I said four, I really don't
have said twelve thirty. Yeah, back in, he's back in. Man,
those were more the popular ones. There was someone I don't making the
band. That's true because they heard you went on from one one or two
weeks. Yeah yeah, all right, well there you go. I know
it's probably Bill, all right, it can't but he never wins. He
might have this one. I might have had that, might have had that
one. Kevin, thanks a lot. Oh you did write the questions for
me, so no, I did. Don't sit here, don't start,
don't start that one. Oh man, more bondage pictures showed up. Oh
boy that this guy puts up. I was, this is the weirdest thing,
like, is he doing a how to class? It's very strange,
just putting his wife out there saying banger. I get it's a strange.
It's a weird thing to me. I can't imagine. I can't think donkey
punch, wow on, don't you explain what that is? We did already
just remind you all right, it's when you put a girl on all fours
and then you hit her as hard as back to knock her out, and
then wow, it's like necrophilia. Oh man, it's terrible. It is.
I had a girlfriend of wanted me to do that. I told you
guys that she wanted you to knock her out yet the point I just can't
imagine Mark punching any point, and then she had me arrested for battery.
Come on, is that the worst thing anybody's ever asked you to do?
Or is there something? Yeah, that's probably the worst. Yeah, because
that was all you know, I'm not gonna hit amy. I haven't ever
anybody in my own entire life. So I'm gonna hit my I'm gonna hit
the girl that I'm you know, I'm supposed to marry. I'm gonna donkey
puncher. I know what? Going back? You should have probably should have.
Hey, does anybody else and I've noticed something where sometimes it's hard to
hear and I don't. I didn't know if it was like one of these
weird things. Maybe it's my TV. Maybe I'm getting older. I don't
where the streaming you put the subtitles on. I do all the time.
Okay, absolutely, yeah, because then I just read because I I sometimes
i'll look and I'll go, man, I couldn't hear exactly what I said,
so all rewind and I still can't get it, so I put the
subtitle on and then usually it can make sense. And the reason that is
is they compress the audio so it fits a lower bandwidth for the same level,
because not everybody has the same bandwidth and you wouldn't be able to get
it. So they've got to try to make it as universal as possible because
not everybody has the same bandwidth, so they compress all the other audio at
the same level. And that means the background noise for example, like waterfalls
or cars or music is as loud as to dialogue. So there are times,
yeah, because I buying up to ninety, I'm like, I can't
fucking hear this. I think I'm going down. And that's why. Oh
man. So when I did the commer, when I did the commercials at
uh at our time, Marner, Yeah, um, that's what we have
to do. We'd sit there, we put the commercials in, and we
put them in the system. But we had to because exactly that we had
to um manually manually it mix. We talk about this on Sundays because on
Sundays we have the sound playing for the bills. Oh yeah, so the
game you have it turned up way loud, right, you can't hear them
the commercials come out, yeah, you know, yeah, because they're compressing
the sound and the mix is about every week. Because he worked in this
in this industry, he's like, they need to fix that. So what
are they doing wrong then? And you're they're not doing it anymore. They're
not mixing the power no, because they just don't give a fuck. Started
paid for Literally, I have to stand with the remote. Yeah, not
the commercial, right, that's not yeah, I mean we would sit there.
We would take every commercial, put it, you know, makes it,
put it in the system too. So every different network could have different
standards by which you need to remix commercial and it would be on It could
be on five six the same commercial. Yes, it would be on five
six different channel channels, right, but you needed to mix it for the
audio so it sounded coming off your product. Watch I didn't know that.
And if the boss is watching the Animal Planet channel, will fucking commercial came
out and the US screwed. Yeah, and now all of a sudden,
we're watching bills games. Weren't blowing out the fucking TV. Yeah, that's
interesting. I only just read about how they compress it, and so it
said, you're not losing your mind if you've been using subtitles. People of
all ages are doing it because it compresses and sometimes you just can't hear over
those things. And and a lot of them were like shows from Ironland into
England where sometimes they speak so far. Watch him, he's like someone's someone
someone's talking in uh us say us. I feel the same way about porn.
If you got a British accent, I ain't watching it. Or if
you can't freaking understand them, you can't understand what. I don't bother goings.
I don't know the storyline, you know. Yeah, I got you,
I got you. But I have a show that I think everybody should
watch and something Max. It's the Idol, the Idol. I I just
read about something on the Idol where they upset people with some joke they did.
It's Johnny Depp's daughter, okay, and it's the Weekend. Yeah,
the Weekend does it right? Yeah? Okay, Yeah, I've seen trailers
for this dude. But he's in it, right, Yes, a thriller,
it's yes, it's turning into that. I didn't know where it was
gonna go, but it's very um. She's pretty pretty much playing a Britney
Spears type of so she's the idol, not him, not him, but
he is is. They make him look like Lenny Kravis. You kind of
get it in it like could the nineties. So is he playing an artist
himself? No, but he is is. He's somebody who's trying to get
in. He has no musical ten himself, but he's manipulating her to get
into her world. And it's really good. Okay, it's like a really
good psychological thriller. And he produces this the Weekend? Does I heard he
produce? Yeah, and he probably does. I mean that's about the name
because obviously American Idol. Yeah, people are pissed about it. I heard
about Okay, I mean that's what I maybe that's what I read. I
just read something that they call it the idol and they are confusing with the
American Idol. They're trying to pawn off of it. People are pissed about
it. So how many episodes have you watched three? Three? Are they
dropping them weekly? So dropping? Yeah? Three? But I'm telling you,
guys, it's like giving the first the first episode is like, you
know, I don't know where this is, don't know, you know what.
I went and watch a chered fucking documentary because I didn't. I didn't
so slow, so terrible. I finally got not because I thought of you,
and I thought it was sickening. But I didn't want to because of
exactly that. So that's when I watched the Arnold one, and I watched
it three stagrams. I'm going but it was motivating. It was motivating because
of the business we've been in. Though. Yeah, you're gonna understand a
lot of the a lot of the you know, of the idol stuff,
A lot of the idol stuff, because there's a lot of things in there,
all right, And how that they made the weekend. Do you watch
a lot of stuff on streaming? I do. I stream everything. Spectrum
can stick it up their ass, all right. Well, I don't mean
it like that. I wasn't trying to start a war here. He feels
way about them as you feel about radio. I was gonna ask I was
gonna ask you about would you keep coming with recommendations? I will because serious.
I put on my Facebook the other day about um but you can stream
and how much it costs and how you can get things cheaper. For instance,
Peacock, which is a great channel by the way, good movies,
good series. Yea, EJ would love Peacock. You can get deaf for
twenty dollars a year. You can, Yes, it's ninety nine a month.
So what I had to do is I had to cancel it and use
another email to get to twenty dollars a year. Wow, did you know
this? Yeah, you do. It's twenty dollars a year. I just
know that. Your book and he did it just always always, That's why
you've got That's why people have seven different email addresses, because they're just scripching
through things to get things cheaper. Stars for example, Stars, which is
a terrible, terrible show's terrible. Every time my promotion ends, I cancel
it. Then I'll say dollar ninety nine a month for three months, I'll
cancel it. All of a sudden, it's ninety nine stents for three months.
Even that ninety nine cents, So yeah, I'm doing ninety nine cents
is it worth it? Though, no, it's not worth it. But
in that ninety nine cents, it's in case something was on same thing with
even Netflix? Did it? Netflix went down to six ninety nine. I
canceled Netflix and then didn't. How do you find when they dropped the prices?
I don't what I did? Was I cancel? I was? I
canceled all of a sudden. They sent me an email few say okay,
okay, even Max, I canceled Max. Yeah, and I was paying
ten dollars. I'm only paying four ninety nine now. Fun man, I'm
at like fifteen nine. You have you just order a new fire stick?
Yeah, and there's there's a program and suppose it's legal, okay, like
thirty five dollars a month and you get everything everything including pay per view.
Wow, I don't know how. It's for five years. Yeah, so
this is on your Facebook page. Yeah, and they swear it's legal.
My neighbor has Apolo TV, which is interesting. It's very helpful. Yeah,
I mean, I'm a nice tip man. Yeah. I decided,
you know, I was pretty proud of myself that I don't know. I'll
let you know just where the fire sticks they're coming today, so I'll let
you know how it works out. Okay, yeah, let me give me
a couple of weeks. Alright, alright, all right, sounds good for
Mark Killman, with great insight and a shitty scoring. Closest to the pin
you just bring about the pig through it hit the microphones. For Matt who
makes some of the best food. I mean that. I know he's not
gonna take credit for the chicken French mel I know, but see even that,
wouldn't you want to work for a guy like that? I went for
your work for him before. I just say for Kevin Muir, who has
a buzzcut, brought in a whole bunch of beer. I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you tomorrow.