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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for addition with the

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aaw fat podcast team. This is
Kelson and this is Alex and yeah,

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tonight we didn't have a lot of
news. We had a Collision episode that

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I think Kelson you hated. I
thought was. I think everybody hated it.

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I think you know, there was
a point they had to match between

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Claudio cast and Noli and Johnny TV
that went on it felt like forever,

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and yeah, I felt like there's
a real low point in my collision viewing

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days. Well, if you look
at the ratings, it was a low

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point all around for everything. What
was it, one hundred and twenty two

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thousand people saw collision. That's a
funny story behind that. So there's like

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this guy who just hates AEW and
apparently the rumor is that he gets these

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fast nationals kind of fed to him
by ww E. So anytime that collisions

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or aw ratings are really bad,
they feed him these ratings that are expensive

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to get, like before anybody else. But anyways, the actual number was

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like high, three hundred thousands,
not great, but it was like three

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times whatever this guy reported, So
oh well, thank god for that so

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that boring ash show actually got more
viewers. Cool. Yeah, No,

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it was. The Osprey match was
good, but it was It was just

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a great match and not not a
lot of drama behind it because there was

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no way Kyle o'rallley was winning.
And then there was a lot of squash

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matches that that Johnny TV match really
was. I will say this. I

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will say this is that we were
doing a live chat on the aw fat

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hub sub reddit. By the time
it got to the Will Osprey and and

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Kyle Riley match, everybody had left. I did not see the match.

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I had long turned that show,
that that show off because I was just

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absolutely bored stiff. Yeah, and
we're going to talk about the part of

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the show that I hated the most
a little bit later. Yes, So

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let's get up with let's get out
with the beat of the show. Sure,

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I think you know. There was
a report maybe two or three weeks

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ago from Fightful, and we never
got around to talking about it, but

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it was a list of all the
injured people currently in ae W. And

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there's also some other names that I
want to add here because I've had some

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interesting thoughts about ways to return some
of these people, But I'm gonna read

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through this list right now. It's
pretty long. We have Adam Cole,

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Bandido, The Blade, Dan Hausen, Doctor, Britt Baker, Drealistico,

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Eddie Kingston, Jamie Hayter, Jeff
Hardy, Julia Hart, Keith Lee,

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Kenny Omega, Coda Aboushi, Mark
Davis, Mark Quinn, miro Or Tease,

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Penelope Ford, Powerhouse, Hobs,
Ruby Soho, Dami Guvara, Scorpio,

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Sky, t Mellow, and last
but not least, Wheeler Yuda,

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who actually seems to be coming back
tomorrow night on Din. Yeah, so

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maybe the injury book is over.
And then those names that you read,

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Obviously there's sub that are not injured. They're just on lea. But but

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they're not they're they're not there,
like Dan Housen, Dalistico, Those are

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guys that's like, are they not
there because they don't want to be there?

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Are they because Tony doesn't want to
use them? You have Pelt before

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to Tate Mellow, Yeah, Ruby
Soho that are definitely on on leave,

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Yeah, Matt maternity leave. Sammy
Guvar is on paternity leave, but not

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really. He was suspended, but
he's back for suspension. He was unsuspended

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like two weeks ago. Yeah,
he didn't mention Ricky Starks either, No,

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I was gonna mention. So I
have a few other names, and

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these are names that aren't doing much
or are m I A. So there's

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Kip Sabian who's just not being used. He was on Rampage last three months

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ago, and maybe he's doing Ring
of Honor stuff, but I don't I'm

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not aware of all that. Another
name, Commander who's kind of around if

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there's like a multiman match, but
not really. And I think the Commander

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got injured. I don't think so, maybe because I saw he had some

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like multi min matches in April and
then has done a little bit in Ring

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of Honor. But he seems like
a good guy to have around. Oh.

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Absolutely. Aaron Fox he's another guy
that's been mostly mia. I think

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he's on Ring of Honor, but
you know, as I said, not

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everyone watches that. Probably most people
don't. And then two big names.

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We have Ricky Starks, who was
last on March thirtieth at the Tag Team

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tournament where he sort of seemed like
he got injured, but right apparently he's

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not injured. And then the biggest
name of everyone for he's been gone since

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aw Revolution. Adam Page, right, yeah, yeah, he was out.

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He left for They really didn't say
why, but he left for family

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reasons or yes, is what they
intimated at the time. Yeah, they

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said personal reasons, right. HM. One thing with with Ricky Starks and

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with Adam Page, one thing I've
been thinking is the elite right now,

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they're young Bucks, Okata, Jack
Perry. So they have four guys,

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they have a tag team. They
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You have Okada with the continental title. But they don't really have a

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guy who's like the world title person. And I feel like you always kind

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of have that with the big stable
like that, and they don't. And

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I feel like both those guys,
Ricky Starks and Adam Page could make a

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lot of sense in that role for
them. One of the I think with

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the Ricky Starks, the rumor is
that he's leaving, and that's kind of

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what maybe maybe yeah, And that's
and that's one of the things that's tough

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about some of these is that some
of these guys that aren't being used,

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that we know aren't injured. I
don't think that like uh shit, now

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I lost his name, the Bulgarian
guy, Miro Miro He. I don't

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think he's hurt. The last I
heard he was he was back home in

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Bulgaria. It had to do with
him and his wife splitting up or whatever.

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So, you know, there's some
of them that without knowing exactly why

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they're gone, it's hard to say, you know what, when they'll come

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back, if they'll come back.
But I kind of agree with you on

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that. I think that that would
be and I think it would probably be

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better if it was Cole or Adam
Page instead of Starks, just because of

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his affiliation with the Elite in the
past. Yeah, and he's on a

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long term contract, right, he's
not leaving, well we hope not,

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at least not anytime soon. Yeah. Well with Starks is that every time

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he gets put into a program,
through no fault of his own, the

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program falls as shit because somebody gets
injured, or they get suspended or they

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get fired, you know. So
you know, it's like, I don't

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know, it's like there's a dark
cloud following around any wrestler in aaw it's

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got to be Ricky Starks jinks.
Yeah, Yeah, it is interesting,

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but the fact that he was in
all those programs, whether they fell apart

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through no fault of his own,
does show that they've tried to make a

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big deal. They gave him the
tag team titles, which not it was

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a lackluster run, but they don't
give a lot of people titles other than

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a Ring of Honor titles in aw
just for no reason, Like there's faith

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behind him, but he's always been
stop and start. Yeah, I think

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the biggest problem with that is the
fans don't agree with that. A lot

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of them think that Ricky's being misused. But like you said, he has

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been given so many programs that aren't
his fault or falling apart. It just

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so happens that wrong place, wrong
time, So you know it. I

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would love to see Ricky Starks stay
because he is He is a very he

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has the potential to be a very
good wrestler. One of the main reasons

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everybody thinks that he's on the way
out is because he's friends with Cody,

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so they're assuming he's going to go
join Cody. Mm hmm, yeah,

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don't make assumptions so right, But
he also he has a little bit of

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the Ethan Page vibe. To me
where I hate to say it, but

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you can't see him being successful in
WWE just because of what he brings to

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the table is almost more valuable in
WWE than it is an AW. Yeah,

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yeah, he doesn't. He gives
you that vibe of being a WWE

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style guy more than an AW guy. And there's a few of them that

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are like that, Yeah for sure. Yeah. Anyway, I mean,

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it'd be interesting to see when these
absent wrestlers and talent are able to come

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back and what they do when they
do come back. Mm hmm. There's

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some big names there that a lot
of people have been talking about, going

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gee, I wish they'd come back
real soon, you know, and if

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predicting have been predicting their returns that
have been disappointed that they have not returned

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yet. Mm hmm. Yeah for
sure. That's another thing I kind of

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I kind of think that AW kind
of drops the ball on as they don't

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really keep you informed or keep the
fans informed on what's actually going on with

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some of these folks. For example, like, uh, the most of

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the women that are out, Jamie
Hater has been out for over a year.

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Nobody said anything. We don't really
know anything with that is going on

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with her. We don't get any
kind of update at all. And I

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think that's a that's an issue that
aw has. That's an issue that's been

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going on in pro wrestling since I've
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You know, that's nothing sometimes sometimes, I mean, I'm sorry, but

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no, every time, unless it's
a minor injury that keeps somebody out for

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like a week or two, they
do keep you informed. If it's more

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than if it's a major injury,
you don't hear anything. Yeah, yeah,

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and I wonder if it's you know, so when they do return,

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it's a surprise. Yeah, yeah, especially with the big names, you

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don't want to tell people that they're
going to return. I mean, look

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at MJF. He came back,
you know, at uh at double or

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nothing, and frankly, not a
lot of people expected it, you know,

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and it was a it was a
big moment. Yeah. But anyway,

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let's move on. I want to
move on. I want to talk

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about the women's match at for Bid
Dorn. I also have a little bit

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of a proposition here. We we
do know now that Tony Storm has issued

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a challenge to Mina Shirakawa Ormira is
Al we'll call her, and Mina Shirkaala

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did accept the challenge, So we
are going to see Tony Storm against Mina

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Shirakawa at Forbid Door. But I
got to thinking about it, because you

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know, we're gonna have several women
in a W and several women in stardom

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that are available. Why don't we
have another match and have it as that

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like the Casino Forbidden Door Gauntlet matches
the men did that was really enjoyable,

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and have that with AW women and
Stardom women and have the winner of that

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match maybe get a future shot at
the AW Women's title. I like that,

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you know. But anyway, because
let's face it, there are so

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many women in there are so many
women in stardom and AW that deserve to

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be in Forbidden Door. But let's
face it, they're not going to get

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as much time as the men are. So but on the other hand,

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they may need to rely a little
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a little bit weak on the men's
side. No telling what CML is going

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to be able to do as far
as work visas, et cetera. You

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know, and you never know you
have to have contingency plans, is what

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I'm saying. I mean, it'll
be something, but I'd like to hear

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what you're thought on. First of
all, Tony Storm and Mina Shirakawa,

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how do you see that playing out
or how would you like to see it

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play out? Because my own thoughts
and what do you think about the Gauntlet

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match idea or Jevy, can you
think of something better? Yeah? I

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think I first thought, you know, they have to have more Stardom women

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than just Mina Shrikawa on the show, and I was thinking that they would

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do something along the lines of what
they did at their Supercard of Honor with

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like the Showcase Stardom three on three
match, But I think the Casino Gauntlet

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is actually a much better idea,
especially forbid Indoor. Yeah, you have

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it. You know, the winner
gets the title shot, like I guess

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because all the titles are already spoken
for. We got Stephanie pickir and and

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now Mina share Kawa, so they're
gonna both be on the main card and

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then it could be the opening match. You almost don't want to have it

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on zero hour because it would be
such a good match and good showcase,

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and they could have tons of not
even just stardom women. You could have

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like t jp W because I know
a W sort of has a relationship with

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them as well, right with Hakarashida, Well me, uh me you yamashidas

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wrestled in a W. Uh mazuki
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Of course, Yukasakazaki was the mainstay
in t JPW as well. Yeah,

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uh so there have been different women
from t JPW there, Yeah,

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I think that's However, However,
I don't think that you're going to see

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t JPW women at Forbid door because
I'm sure Tadahashi wants his women to stardom

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women to be featured and not play
second fiddle to any other promotions. Yeah,

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that makes sense, and I guess
that's something you definitely have to consider

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when you're running these shows. I
guess CMLL is alright because they also have

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a relationship with New Japan A most
definitely. Yeah, but what do you

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want, Alex, What do you
see in this Tony Storm versus Mina Sheri

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Kawa match, Because it's more than
just a match, because you also have

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to throw Mariah May into the mix
because Maria May has got a relationship with

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Tony Storm and Mina shar Kala.
Uh. So, I think I think

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it's really awesome how they've built this
match because it's not just a forbidden door

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match, it's a storyline that's been
going been Supercard of Honor. Maybe even

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before that, Mina Shirts showed up
repeatedly. She has the relationship with Mariah

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May. It's it's almost more part
of the storyline. I know you've called

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forbidden Door filler season, but this
is like a more straight line rich stopper.

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Yeah that's I don't know what's worse, but yeah, like this,

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this is a storyline driven match.
Uh. It can lead to the disintegration

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of Tony Storm and Mariah May's relationship. I have a hard time picturing Mina

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Sherikawa winning this match, but it
would be cool, and it could free

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Tony up to have a feud with
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puts the title on a stardom woman. That could be very good for stardom

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business. So I don't I don't
see it happening, but I think it

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would be a really cool idea if
it did. Yeah, what about you

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sudden. What do you see going
on here? We've been We've been talking

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about this one for a while now, and we pretty much all have the

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same general idea that it's going to
lead to a three way where Mirror Mini

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did that, where uh, it's
gonna come down to Mirror sheer Kawa and

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Tony are going me meani meani,
I don't know, I don't care.

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Is going to carse your count but
they're gonna fight over Mariah. It's gonna

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lead to it's gonna lead to what
hopefully will be the further and deepening of

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Tony going into that place that even
splits her personality into super fragments. And

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I think we all been talking about
that same thing for a long time.

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I, on the other hand,
and like you, Alex, I do

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think that I see here Kala winning
the title, like uh, I know

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alex Or that Kelson is thinking the
same thing, And I kind of agree

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with the reasons why he thinks that
is it's a good way to get some

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life into stardom and give them a
chance to do some stuff with that and

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have the title outside the US for
a time or two, maybe just to

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give it more exposure. But I
think it's gonna be. It could end

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up being. To me, it
could have them being the biggest and best

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part of the Forbidden Door. I
agree with you. Look, before I

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get into talking about what I think
should happen, I want to point out

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something. Let's look at the other
titles that AW has, that just AW

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has that are available here. The
Continental title Okada is not going to lose

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it Forbidden Door. We know that
the TNT title isn't going to be lost

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or Forbidden Door because it's going to
be Taquesta, probably against Jack Perry for

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that. We know that the World
title isn't going anywhere because it's going to

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be Sware of an osprey. Right, So what does that leave at least

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the tag titles at least, which
will the Trios titles which I don't see

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going anywhere either, and and it
also leaves uh the FTW title which frankly,

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who gives a ship about side on
the Trios side note on the Trios.

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If the Trios titles is defended at
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h it will not include it will
have to be with the guns, the

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guns and not switch Blade because he's
not he is by whatever it was when

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he left, he made it that
he said he would not compete in anything

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related to New Japan again, So
Dave White won't be involved in Forbidden Door

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at all. I had not heard
that it was. It was they brought

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it up. Somebody brought it up. I think it was on the other

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a W I think it was on
AW the other subreddit, the UH and

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they said something about that was part
of what he said when he left he

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would not be involved in New Japan
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And my brain's not working at the
moment right now, and regardless,

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honestly, all sudden, I don't
believe that. Yeah, it sounds like

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he was just talking. So somebody
spewed it at the mouth. If you

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want to bring it up tomorrow night, if you want to do some research

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and actually confirm that for tomorrow night. But I don't want to have a

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I don't want to have a you
know, discussion as fact about something that

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is probably bullshit, honestly. But
anyway, let me get back to what

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I was talking about. My point, So I was talking about the casino

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forbid Door ladder batch or not the
ladder batch, the Gauntlet batch that the

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men had a couple of weeks ago, which went over really really well,

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was really enjoyable. It was fun
to watch. Why not do the same

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thing with the women. Of course, it would be a casino match,

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would be a forbidden door match,
It'll be a gauntlet match, and they're

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the same rules. First one to
get the pin wins, and what they

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win is a future shot at the
AW Women's World title. This is the

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spot where Mariah May could enter that
match and win the future women's title match.

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Then in the Tony Storm versus Mina
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Like Sutton said, and that I've
said in the past, this would really

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help strengthen the Stardom roster because hey, they've got a AW belt suddenly.

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I'm not saying Mina should keep that
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like maybe not even a month maybe, but have at their next paper

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view, have Mariah May go to
stardom and win that belt off of Mina

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Shirakawa, and then you have the
Mariah May and Tony Storm match ready made

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because Tony Storm being the champion would
have a rematch clause. And there you

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go. And that's what I see
for it. And I think that would

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be really really fun mm hmm,
and then that match would be a Wembley

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all in. I probably would not
put it at all in at Wembley.

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I would probably put it like on
a Dynamite you know, you know,

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you know how Dynamite or sometimes does
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Yeah, that would be a really
really good way to do it because

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I think Wembley would be probably the
place where you're going to be looking at

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Baker or somebody coming back. So
we have one last piece of news.

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This is coming out of WWE.
So apparently Becky Lynch's contract has expired.

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I'm not super familiar with Becky Lynch, like I'm aware of her obviously,

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she's been a huge deal in the
women's division. I can't remember actually watching

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any of her matches personally, but
I know she is a huge deal in

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women's wrestling. She's been one of
the biggest stars in WWE. She's now

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apparently a free agent. I don't
I don't see her coming to AEW because

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they've already just spent like ten twenty
million dollars on you know, Mercedes Monette

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and Okada and Will Osprey really recently, so it seems like a lot of

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money is spoken for, and apparently
she would command maybe the most money out

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of all of them if she did
come over. Not to mention, her

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husband is still employed in WWE.
But yeah, wondering other people's thoughts on

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this piece of news. Well,
look, I have a lot of respect

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for Becky Lynch because her story is
one of the underdog that made it happen.

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I mean she was literally a jobber. I mean she was nothing,

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and she worked her tail off and
quickly became the man and she deserves every

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bit of it. But when it
comes to Becky Lynch in AW, I

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will say it right now, there
is zero percent chance that make it Lynch

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comes to AW. Zero and that's
it. Like you said, I don't

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see her coming, But if she
wanted to see how I wouldn't pass her

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up. But I think the women's
division is good right right now. She'd

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make it better, of course,
but she needs to break and I don't

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see her coming at all. But
she's a good wrestler. I wouldn't pay

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her more than anybody else, just
as much as Mercedes is worth. But

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that's just me. What about you, So do you have any opinions on

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Becky Lynch. I'd love to see
her in a definitely would be better than

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the rest of anybody in AW,
including Mercedes. I think she is part

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of the original four horse Women of
wrestling for them, But yeah, she

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would be a great addition. We'll
just have to wait and see. I

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guess it'll be one of those things
where she'll decide what she wants to do

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and it'll end up being what it
is. Yeah. I mean, look,

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Becky is a great talent and I
would love to see her at AW.

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She's that good. But I just
don't think there's a chance. But

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anyway, let's move on to our
Dynamite preview and we may as well get

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this over with because this is just
this is me off to no end.

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I am sorry, but Roderick Strong, the man with zero charisma in a

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faction, the Undisputed Kingdom, that
has lost its way, and they never

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had a way to begin with,
and they still lost their way. Roderick

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Strong approached Tony Kahan on collision had
said that I'm paraphrasing here, Hey,

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I should get a shot at the
World Championship, and Tony Kahn was like,

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that's a great idea. And so
now we have Swerve Strickland versus Roderick

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Strong fortyaw Men's World Championship on Dynamite
in a match that I have absolutely no

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plans on watching. My my channel
will be turned for this match because I

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cannot watch Roderick Strong at all.
It's just like you ever see Kingston.

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Have you ever seen the movie Life
Force Alex where has that? You know,

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that pretty naked space vampire who didn't
suck suck blood, She sucked the

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energy out of people. And basically
what happens is when she gets a hold

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of somebody and she does her vamp
space vampire thing to come out looking out

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like prunes. Well, that's kind
of what I feel. I feel like

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Roderick Strong is the space vampire and
he sucks all the energy out of me

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whenever I watch him. He is
that god awful. He needs a He

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needs to have a total revamp of
his character because I just simply cannot stand

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to watch him perform awful. It
is awful. He can be the greatest

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wrestler in the world that I don't
give a damn you know why he wants

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He says he deserves the shot,
right it's because he was supposed to be

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the last guy that came in in
the last Gauntlet match, and Osprey won

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it before he got to go in, so he didn't get to win the

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gauntlet match, and that was his
reasoning to get the title shot. Send

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his back and leave him there.
Oh god, Yeah, I don't want

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to say he's a terrible go ahead, No, go ahead, Okay,

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I don't think he's a terrible wrestler. He just doesn't have that connection to

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the fans. He was funny for
a little bit when he was yelling Adam,

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but other than that, he really
has an interest. It'll be a

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decent match. He's a good wrestler, but but he just doesn't need to

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be that. I understand why.
It's a nice go to me, but

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I want to ask you guys,
when you get done with this, what

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would you guys do to end the
Undisputed King? Because I know they have

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to it's gonna be a wild till
Ole comes back. I want to ask

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you what do you guys think you
guys would do to get rid of him?

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I can answer that right now,
absolutely nothing. Just say all right,

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my name is Tony conn and I'm
the president's CEO and owner of a

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W and the on Disputed Kingdom,
You're done, sorry, goodbye, I

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mean start again. I mean it
is so bad. The Undisputed Kingdom is

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so bad they don't need an explanation
to end it. Yeah, in their

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defense on Collision against Leo Rush,
when they were wearing his stupid big coat

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and saying that it was a sleeping
bag and then he should sleep in it,

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that was some of the best stuff
they've done in their entire time in

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ae W. You saw that,
I did see it. That was probably

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the highlight until the final match when
it came the collision. I turned it

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off when Roderick Strong was out there. I turned it off when Tavid and

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Bennett were out there. I turned
it off well before the osprey and uh

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right, because I was just so
sickened by the show that how bad it

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was. Yeah, sorry, I
I love AW but when I see a

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piece of ship, I'm not going
to sit there and say that's antique furniture.

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I better say it's a piece of
ship. It was. It was

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an abnormally mediocre episode of AW TV. I would say, for sure,

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I don't know how to fix that
show either, But I think it's usually

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pretty good, Like a lot of
the times, it's more fun than you

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even would expect. But last Saturday
was like laing continuity. I mean,

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because storylines don't seem to flow through
it. They can't. I don't know

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how to explain it. I think
this week was I think it was the

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fact that they were in a different
spot. He kind of went from la

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to I can't remember what was that
on Saturday, and then they're going back

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to the place they were before.
So he kind of was like a it

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was almost like an afterthought place to
have matches. It was like, well,

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we need to go here, let's
do this, we'll put these matches

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on, we'll satisfy the contract there, and then we'll go back to doing

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things on dynamite like we should have
done in the first place. But when

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it comes to RODERI strong, he
kind of puts me in the mind of

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Paul Cogan. He's got like one
or two moves that he uses all the

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time, and that's it. He
uses his backbreaker, or he puts him

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up against the rope and he smacks
him across the face a couple of times.

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That's it, and he's does nothing
else. With any kind of he

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just he needs to go. They
need to send his ass, Like I

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said, they need to send him
and the other two put him on r

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Oh, keep him on ro Oh, get rid of the Undisputed Kingdom.

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There's no I mean, it was
fine when they first came in and it

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was Bobby Fish and they were all
four on there, and they kind of

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were bringing it in from and Roddy
wasn't even there at that point. Yeah,

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yeah, Bobby Fisher's right. And
then it's just like you know,

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people, I keep every everybody keeps
saying, oh, he's a great wrestler.

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He's a great wrestler. I watched
all his matches. I've seen nothing

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that makes him even close to be
considered a great wrestler. Yeah, I

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think he's pretty great. I think
he he's a hard hitter. He's like

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he's a tier. He's clearly a
tier below like Kenny Omega and will Ospray,

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if not two tiers. Uh,
he's even below maybe like but you

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know Buddy Matthews and some of those
guys. But I do think he is

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a high level wrestler. I think
Tony really respects his wrestling ability, but

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he is over exposed because him is
a character is just not It's okay for

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me, I think most people it's
not working at all. For yeah,

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yeah, sorry, I lost my
train of thought, I think. But

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the fact that he went to Tony
and that's not like an experiment to me,

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that he's going to Tony Kahan,
and like they're trying to come up

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with a storyline reason for why these
Dynamite matches happened, because they're probably gonna

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books where versus Roddy's anyways, and
they're like, hey, let's try to

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have Roddy go backstage and and make
it part of the show. And it

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it was very awkward, and I
think people were not happy with it generally.

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See I prefer Kyle Riley more than
I do Rodert Strong. I know,

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he's kind of little, he's kind
of super funny in his own way.

403
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.559
You know, he plays the air
guitar on this championship belt. He's

404
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.000
goofy. I watched the hey w
thing with him and he's a funny,

405
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:12.159
well well well spoken guy, and
I'm glad he's by himself. But I

406
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:22.840
don't understand how Undisputed went from great
in NXT to just nothing. Is it

407
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.840
is it because Bobby Fish left and
Roddy joined, or because they were so

408
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.519
good with Adam Cole, or to
Adam Cole. I don't know. I

409
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:35.679
think it's Adam Cole and Kyle O'Reilly
and Roderick Strung is the least likable out

410
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.719
of all of them. Well,
maybe Bobby Fish is less likely. You

411
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.960
got to you gotta take out the
tag team because they were not part of

412
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.639
n x T, not and not
as undisputed. They just happened to be

413
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.920
along with Roddy in a w They
weren't part of it in n XT.

414
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.960
They were with Adam Cole before,
they were part of Adam Cole's kingdom and

415
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.159
Ring of honor back in the right, and then when when he went to

416
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:06.000
n x T, it was it
was Coal and Fish and Roddy and O'Reilly.

417
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.400
That was therefore for the underspeed disputed
error. Those were the four there,

418
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:14.760
and then when they all came over
here, Roddy being the last of

419
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.159
the four to come. They would
have been fine if it would have been

420
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.440
those four, but when you had
in the tag team, they're just they're

421
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:27.239
horrible too. They're they they are
probably worse than Roddy. Is that seems

422
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.519
nothing good from them at all.
You know, I like Matt Tavern,

423
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:37.519
Matt Tavin. Matt Tavern, my
my wife called him. Mike Bennett doesn't

424
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:43.280
do it for me. Yeah,
I mean, the best part of that

425
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:47.159
group comes and goes. He's just
the best part of those two is the

426
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:52.239
wife. And she's not even there
anymore. Yeah, he's not part of

427
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.440
the Three Canals. Is the best
part of that group, and she's still

428
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:59.159
in a ring of honor, but
she's like managing Griff Garrison or something.

429
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:12.239
Griff cares now listen, but your
buddy, your buddy. Uh yeah,

430
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:17.679
I want to I want to go
back and address something that Sutton said earlier

431
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.199
when we were talking about this match, specifically talking about Collision. So we

432
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:30.199
had Rampage on Friday night and Collision
on Saturday night, and at the Wrestling

433
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:39.920
Hub discord where we all congregate,
we were talking about Rampage on Saturday night

434
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.559
on Friday night about I would say
about nine pm Eastern time, and everybody

435
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.880
was like, well, hey,
Rampage is in an hour and other people

436
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:54.960
were like, no, it was
on two hours ago, and we are

437
00:37:55.000 --> 00:38:00.599
the biggest a w fans out there. Really a month the biggest, and

438
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:06.000
we had no idea when the show
was on. Okay, then when it

439
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:10.719
got to Saturday night, it was
collision. The conversation on the AW fat

440
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:15.920
up subreddit live chat was, Hey, is this a live show or was

441
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:20.559
this taped? You know. So
here's the thing, and this is the

442
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:28.880
point about this AW. When you
promote your shows, you have to understand

443
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:35.760
that not everybody is on Twitter.
You've got to take advantage of YouTube,

444
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:43.440
You've got to take advantage of Reddit, maybe even discord and Instagram and all

445
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:50.400
that kind But honestly, I've never
really seen AW promote anything other than on

446
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:54.639
Twitter and Instagram, you know.
And they've got to get with the program.

447
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.199
I mean, if you want people
to watch your shows, you got

448
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.559
to let people know when your shows
are on. That's my point. Yeah,

449
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:07.119
and this colosure, I think originally
it wasn't even supposed to Maybe it

450
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.400
was supposed to be on at like
ten hour or midnight or something because there's

451
00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:16.079
supposed to be a basketball game.
Yeah, the Mavericks won in like five

452
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:21.119
games, so they didn't play that
night, right, Yeah, so it

453
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.599
is all over the place. Yeah, Like sometimes on Saturday nights, I

454
00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:28.239
sit down to watch collision with my
wife and it's like, oh, it's

455
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.880
not on. I know. Here's
the thing. Now, AW fan up

456
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:38.559
subreddit is small, and I admit
that, but whenever you have several thousand

457
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:45.159
people, that's several thousand people that
can you can advertise on. I would

458
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:52.360
be willing to make an AW spokesperson
in their community or whatever a moderator just

459
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:59.920
so they can come on and promote
AW shows with official announcements and stuff like

460
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:06.840
that. And I'm sure that the
other subreddits would do it. And you

461
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.760
know, discords the same way.
I mean, there's wrestling discords out there,

462
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:16.559
there's podcast Look, get get your
stars out there doing amas, not

463
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.199
only on Twitter but also on renting. You've got to promote. You're not

464
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:28.119
going to be able to compete with
WWE because WWE has a fifty some year

465
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.199
head start on you. So you've
got to go out. You've got to

466
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:37.639
think outside the box, you know. But when you have big AW fans

467
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:45.760
not knowing when the hell your show
is on, that's a problem. It's

468
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:51.000
a problem, and I feel stupid. I honestly I do not like Twitter.

469
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.599
I don't use Twitter hardly at all. But if I want to find

470
00:40:53.639 --> 00:41:00.519
out anything about AW from AW,
I have to go to Twitter to find

471
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:08.559
out about it. That should not
be I don't and Facebook. But uh,

472
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.199
I think now that the NBA,
they're losing the NBA, UH,

473
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:22.920
CBS and m R that uh,
that maybe this will help a W inadvertently

474
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.760
because now they don't have to combat
with them during this season. They still

475
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.360
have baseball, of course, but
and baseball is here there never besides the

476
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.079
playoff, I don't think it's really
gonna matter. So I you know,

477
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.280
I I think it's gonna help.
But like I said in the group chat,

478
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:49.119
I really think that that Collision needs
a roster where we know people are

479
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.760
gonna be on there so people will
be uh, and it needs a better

480
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.440
time slot because I always forget that
it's on and I start watching that a

481
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.159
little bit later. So but I
don't But I don't know what happened because

482
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:04.480
it's been good in the past.
It's had some really good shows and really

483
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:10.199
had some show and they're really gonna
miss Copeland because he's been like the guy

484
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:16.440
on on Collision, So I wouldn't
why the last episode was rough because they

485
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.920
missed out on him. Yeah,
I think AW needs to realize that they

486
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:25.320
can't put their hat, you know, put the hat on the head of

487
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.239
one person and tell them to run
with it and it's their show. They've

488
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.079
got hat. They've got to make
it to where it's every wrestler has a

489
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:39.599
has a part, you know.
But but the most important thing is is

490
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:45.840
that if the part is working,
go with it. If the part isn't

491
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:52.639
working, don't try to make it
happen. I'm sorry. Undisputed Kingdom is

492
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.559
never going to happen. Shane Taylor
Productions is never going to happen. Shane

493
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:04.159
Taylor that that's an okay O card
thing gonna be a big deal. But

494
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.440
I don't hate them. I don't
hate them, but it's like they're never

495
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:13.320
gonna be like, you know,
I can see did you see Shane Taylor,

496
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:19.119
uh Anthony a Gogo or Lee Boardy
Big a w World Championship, World

497
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.840
Champions in the year, or Tag
Champions in a year or Trios Champions of

498
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:29.440
the year. I could say every
match that they're in and those titles.

499
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:37.679
Can you say anything about dark order
be really really interesting? Now they're but

500
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:45.440
love At one point I didn't need
to clarify something from earlier. I did

501
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.880
find out what the problem with Jay
White and New Japan is. The reason

502
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.599
he can't compete against New Japan right
now is because of the clause and why

503
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:59.360
he left New Japan. It was
the loser leaves New leaves Japan. Okay,

504
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.239
so by that match, he won't
compete, and you know how those

505
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:06.119
work, it'll be for it was
just like when Cody said, I won't

506
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.440
go for the TNT title again.
If I lose this match and you lost,

507
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.599
it'll be one of those things where
eventually they'll get that out of there.

508
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.719
But that's the reasoning behind him not
being able to compete it Forbidden Door,

509
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:22.800
Okay, Well, by what you
just said, loser leaves japad Forbidden

510
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.400
Door is at Long Island, New
York. So that's I'm not really great

511
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.679
with geography, but I don't think
Long Island, New York is a pad.

512
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:38.440
So I think that's not You're not
following wrestling logic there, mister Kelson,

513
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:49.320
but whatever wrestling logic is. So
there's a five percent chance that there's

514
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:57.679
going to be a thirty chance of
a of a match for trios at Forbidden

515
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:02.360
Door, and if if there is
a match, fifty chance that it's going

516
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:07.880
to evolve three guys from New Japan
and another fifty chance that it's going to

517
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:14.320
evolve the Bang Bang Gang. So
I mean its one chance that Jay White.

518
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:21.400
Wait a minute, did a big
bat did big bad Daddy boody Daddy

519
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:28.760
walk in here and take over the
math class big thing? Okay, Yeah,

520
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.639
here's the thing I would and and
it has to do with that,

521
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:35.400
and we'll get along to that eventually. But there is a very big what

522
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.199
could be a very big match for
New for the Forbidden Door that would involve

523
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:49.679
both the the Bullet Gold cut,
Bullet Club goal, the Bank Bank Gang.

524
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:55.320
I think they dropped the Bullet Club
anymore. Okay, they probably had

525
00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.280
to pay pay the royalties the New
Japan every time they sold the sh and

526
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.760
they wanted to cut them out.
That's a good deal. Maybe, Yeah,

527
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.679
that's kind of my thinking that because
if I have a Bullet Club gold

528
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:13.800
shirt and it actually has a New
Japan logo on it, oh oh wow,

529
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:20.880
losing money. No. Look,
I think we need to move on

530
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.360
because we've been talking about because this
is actually we're still talking about to strike

531
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.760
let at Roderick Strong and we've got
way, of course, but but let's

532
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:31.480
move on. What do you want
to talk about Bex Alex Well, of

533
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:45.920
course TV Time with Chris Jericho talk
about Alexa. Hi, guys, do

534
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:50.239
the way of smile? I believe
me. You can't see me, but

535
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:58.199
I've got a wickedly stupid smile on
right now. Hi, guys, Concert

536
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.679
and Step video. He says he
and Big Bill are constance and they wigh

537
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.559
at people said, Hi, I'm
with him. You know, it's just

538
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.119
funny to me. I'm sorry,
it won't stop being fun to me because

539
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:16.559
he's such a good guy and he
comes up with these things and he's we're

540
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.079
being choking on a ride. I
don't know how I feel about Brian Keith

541
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:27.400
Keith yet, but he deserves some
spotlight. But this is fun, fun,

542
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.960
and it's fun because people hate it. That's why I'm learning the summer.

543
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.800
Yeah, I think it's great.
I think this could be the best

544
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:43.800
thing that Brian Keith done in ae
W The Bad Apple, Brian Keith bills

545
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:50.320
the Abceason. It'd be more present
done so far that Yeah, for sure.

546
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.880
I think they need to find a
way to destroy or retire the FTW

547
00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:59.960
title. I really hope Hook does
not get it back, because he does

548
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:07.679
not need to be involved with that
anymore in my opinion. Yeah, Like,

549
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:08.800
I don't know where it's leading.
You know, we have the Samoa

550
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:16.000
Joe and Hook team up. I
I'd prefer just the learning tree getting away

551
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:22.599
from Hook doing their own thing.
Mm hmm. I love it. I'm

552
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:28.280
wondering why. I'm wondering why task
is just not revoked at that title.

553
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.280
It is his title. It doesn't
have any relevance in aw it's not even

554
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.400
a recognized title. He can just
take it back whenever he wants to really

555
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:49.000
wrestling logic, eh, unless Roddy
Roderic Strong demands a title match from Tony

556
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:57.000
and then he'll just give it to
him. Oh hell no, because because

557
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:06.760
it should have been me Yeah that's
yeah, am Ronnie's new catch phrase.

558
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:15.159
It should have been a means oh
lord. Yeah. So at Risk is

559
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.000
saying hi, guys, one more
time. I'm just gonna move on us.

560
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.440
Let's talk about an actual match.
We have a match that has kind

561
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.119
of stirred up a little bit of
controversy with the Internet wrestling community because because

562
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.639
you know, people are nuts.
Uh Mariah May versus Theraa. Now this

563
00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:42.840
was advertised by mistake last week.
I was never going to happen last week

564
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:49.119
on Dynamite. It was always scheduled
to be on this week's Dynamite, And

565
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:55.599
of course because of this, uh
people on Twitter were saying that Soraya is

566
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.480
uh disgusted with a W and she
wanted to quit and all that kind of

567
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:07.239
geez. But anyway, so the
match is happening, Mariah May versus soria

568
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:12.880
There's always a chance that there's gonna
be a little bit of story involved here

569
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:17.760
with Harley Cameron, who has been
impressive in the ring. But I think

570
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:22.719
we can all agree that Mariah May, if this is a straight match,

571
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:31.719
Maria May isn't going to lose this
now, shouldn't. Yeah, I think

572
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:37.960
for sure Maria May has to win
here, and I guess out of all

573
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.480
the people she's faced in ae W, this might be her biggest. I

574
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.960
don't want to say Soriah is the
best opponent she's faced, but he is

575
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:52.159
a former champion and she hasn't lost
a lot of matches. I don't think

576
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:58.559
in a W this could be a
big deal for Rian Man. I do

577
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:04.280
think that they're building Mariam up for
eventually to be credible challenger for Tony Storm,

578
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.719
So I think, of course Maria
male win. What was the latch

579
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:13.840
bat last batch at three? Was
it was it all in? Uh?

580
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:22.199
I don't know when she lost the
title No No last match with Camrange.

581
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.360
Yeah, and then I figured where
they were funny it was it was it

582
00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:36.880
was uh tony and yeah it was. I know. The reason why I

583
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:38.920
was bringing it up is because you
know, Siray's got a lot of help.

584
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.000
She cut a lot of flak over
her performance and h in a w

585
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:50.920
but in that particular match, she
looked really good. I thought she looked

586
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:54.920
great. Uh. One of the
things that I really do base wrestlers on,

587
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.119
whether it's male, female, whatever, is not the moves that they

588
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.880
could do, but the moves that
they could take. I appreciate the one

589
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:08.239
the wrestlers. I think that a
good barometer of how good a wrestler is

590
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:15.679
is how good they could make the
other person look That's what the best wrestlers

591
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.199
do. They make the other wrestlers
look good. And I thought Sarray did

592
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.599
a really terrific job at that match. Well that's that's it. That's all

593
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.199
I want to say about that.
Mm hmm. Yeah. I do think

594
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:31.719
she's underrated and she really you know
we've mentioned it before, but she really

595
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:37.239
like plays the crowd really well.
If you see your live she's super entertaining.

596
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:45.400
You're always doing something. Yeah,
yeah, she's she doesn't get enough

597
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.639
credit. He kind of gets hated
on, and I think she's a lot

598
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:52.920
better than people give her credit for
for sure. Yeah, mine Probo Soraya

599
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:59.280
was her. I don't think she
should have won the warld's title at at

600
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:06.519
all in that's not only by having
it, and that really wasn't ah her

601
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:17.599
fault. Well, yeah, of
course fans do have anything to say about

602
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:24.039
this, or it'll be it'll be
an all right match, m you know,

603
00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:32.400
all right, all right, so
let's keep it moving. I'm gonna

604
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.760
save maybe the most exciting thing,
in my opinion for last. So before

605
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.719
that, we have an eight man
tag match. We have the Blackpool Combat

606
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:46.559
Club and I'm pretty sure the first
match that Wheeler you have had in a

607
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.000
long time. We read him in
the injury list. Yeah, he's been

608
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.719
gone for quite a while and he's
back and he's still in the Blackpool Combat

609
00:53:55.719 --> 00:54:01.480
Club. They have not kicked him
out and he is. So they're facing

610
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:07.880
CML guys. The ongoing feud between
John Moxley and everyone in CMLL as they

611
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:14.000
established months and months ago, and
we have Magnus, Vallador, Junior,

612
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:19.880
Ruhido and Esfigne. I don't know
if I pronounced their names right. I

613
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.920
applaud you, sir. I don't
know if you're pronounce them rite either,

614
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:27.800
but they sounded like you did.
Yeah, for sure. So so I

615
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.760
think this will be a fun match. I remember they had like a three

616
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.039
on three match, I think all
Blackpool Combat Club without Wheeler you to get

617
00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:40.920
other CMLL guys, and that was
a really good match. So I expect

618
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:45.400
more of the same, and maybe
we'll get an idea of what what they're

619
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:52.559
going to do with Forbidendor with some
of these CML guys as well. Yeah,

620
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:57.360
I mean this is what I think. This is probably as a vehicle

621
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.039
or means to add CML guys,
cml L guys too. Forbidden Door.

622
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:07.079
Well, what does everybody else think
about this match? I'm gonna first of

623
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.840
all, I'm gonna start calling Alex
Mike today for his ability to be able

624
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:16.480
to talk about loot doors and uh
and his pronunciation. That's that's very good.

625
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:22.840
I like it. I think it's
fine. Uh, that's a good

626
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:25.559
match. Good way to showcase c
M L l LL. I have some

627
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:32.599
dream matches involving some of their people
for for for Forbidden Door, so it'd

628
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.599
be a good introduction. I like
some of those. Man's a black guy.

629
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:39.239
I didn't know, but I've been
looking at the roster lately. Heather

630
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:45.760
for bed Door. Well and uh, Sud, what do you think about

631
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:53.119
this match? This would be a
good match. You know, it's gonna

632
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:58.440
be the same as the other ones. It'll be Blackpool beating up on female

633
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:04.199
guys and it'll be crazy and maybe
they'll win. Maybe it'll be the chance

634
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:06.559
for you to take a fall.
I don't know. It should be fun

635
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:07.840
though, and I kind of agree. It'll be a way to get them

636
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:13.679
involved because, as it stands,
the only one from CMLL it's involved in

637
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:17.800
Forbidden Door right now, is there
women's champion? Yeah, right, So

638
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:23.000
you got to get the guys in
there somehow. Yeah. So I'm hoping

639
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:28.480
that we see something good. What
one thing to point out about this match

640
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:35.159
is this is from Tony conn himself. In the history of the Blackpool Combat

641
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.960
Club, this is the first time
that all four have appeared in a match

642
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:45.639
together. First time out. Wow
Wow, that's crazy. I would have

643
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.119
thought that that would have happened before, but apparently not. This is the

644
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.519
first time we've all been in a
match together. That's straight out of Tony

645
00:56:52.559 --> 00:57:01.400
KOs So it is a historic event. Yeah, and as we've already alluded

646
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:07.000
to, Wheeler Dah is back.
We are saved because Wheeler, you to,

647
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:12.440
the king of the Blackpool Combat Club, is back, the facto leader,

648
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.159
the most important in the puzzle,
the cog of the wheel, the

649
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:22.800
ying of the yang. I ran
out of stuff to say. The guy

650
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:28.840
allows them to actually lose matches because
he can take right the one with the

651
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.199
best beard, because I have to
give that to him. He does that

652
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:37.760
the best way. Okay, I
do think. Yeah, I'm looking at

653
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.760
all their beards. Now I see
where you're coming from. Yeah, I'm

654
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:44.159
glad he has the beard because if
you share, I keep thinking like,

655
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.159
Okay, you shaved the beard off
of off of Wheeler da and he's clean

656
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:52.599
shaven. He probably looked like a
boy scout. But anyway, Look,

657
00:57:52.679 --> 00:58:02.440
so there's only one more thing to
talk about. And in Aw's Twitter,

658
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.760
which I am forced to go to
to find news about Aw, as I

659
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.760
said earlier, it said that you
never know what MJF is going to say.

660
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:17.440
Well, he's going to be there
tomorrow night and in Loveland, Colorado,

661
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.639
and MJF is going to speak live
tomorrow night, and yeah, you

662
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:29.239
never know what he's going to say. Do you think we see Adam Cole

663
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.800
come out? Do you think we
see Wardlow come out? Wardlow had a

664
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:42.119
thing going on. I mean,
there's been some talk about Roush being calling

665
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:51.840
out MJF. So MGF has several
people that are probably gunning for him,

666
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:57.639
which is a good thing because there's
all kinds of options with MJF. And

667
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:05.000
I've also heard talk that MGF maybe
thinking of starting his own faction, which

668
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:10.800
would be interesting. So yeah,
so what do you think, I mean,

669
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.280
do you have any expectations for MGF
tomorrow night or do you just want

670
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:22.400
to hear him just faced off?
Hmmm? I think it'll be interesting because

671
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:29.119
you'll have so many different people that
could come out interact with him. You

672
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:34.320
know, you mentioned the ball,
but you didn't mention uh Joe because you

673
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.519
know him and Joe got a thing. But you could see all of them.

674
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:39.639
I mean, they could all come
out tomorrow. Now. You could

675
00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:49.639
have Cole and Rouge and Joe and
Wardlow and Rio. You just never know

676
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.559
who's going to come out and and
it'll be very interesting to see what he

677
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.519
has to say. It'll be it'll
be crazy because this is his first live

678
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.880
television appearance since he's been heard,
so you know everybody's anticipating this one.

679
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:07.639
But that faction idea, that's kind
of interesting. That could be very very

680
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.760
interesting. I've seen a couple of
sheets report that he may be looking to

681
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:16.480
start a faction, which would be
very interesting. He's always done to do

682
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:24.239
with factions. I like Pinnacle when
he's right. And I don't know if

683
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.280
he'll be fac or he'll I imagine
he'll be a cleaner like he's been.

684
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:36.800
But I'm guaranteeing that next week,
next week will be will be rouche or

685
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:38.800
will be Collision that rouche. But
that'll be a good match for him to

686
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:45.119
start off with. And uh,
I'm off for anything. MJF the love

687
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:49.559
buzz about him. I'm thankful he
signed with us and we'll be with us

688
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.519
for a while. But he's he's
come back, big be horse. He'll

689
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.639
win. But a faction of me
would be great. I'm just interesting who

690
01:00:55.679 --> 01:01:02.960
he would have tag along. How
about the reports they said that he's MGFF

691
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:08.320
is signed a multi year deal worth
fifteen million dollars a year. I'm extremely

692
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:13.519
jealous because he's making slightly more money
than I am. But I say slightly,

693
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:19.599
I mean about fifteen million more year
than I made. Damn Wow,

694
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.199
that that's crazy. I wonder how
that compares to guys in in the other

695
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:29.599
company. I don't know. I
can't imagine anyone getting I can't. I

696
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:35.239
mean, he is the uh salt
of the earth, So I mean he's

697
01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.480
I didn't realize salt was that expensive. Oh, he's worth it. He's

698
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:43.280
he's worth whatever you pay the guy
that makes the most money, because I

699
01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:50.480
think he's the biggest deal in a
He's young, he has all the wrestling

700
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:55.440
ability, all like more mic ability
than anyone in the world. I can't

701
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:01.920
wait to see what he does.
It's hard to predict because is it going

702
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:07.760
to be a forbidden door match that
we're setting up here? We already have

703
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:12.639
the main event is basically not really
a forbidden door match. It's too aw

704
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:17.840
guys, and jf's been outspoken and
not wanting to work with New Japan people.

705
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.119
But if it's going to be a
forbidden door match, he needs to

706
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:29.960
fight someone. In my opinion,
that's not just an AEW person, Nick,

707
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.000
But please God, don't let it
be murder Grandpa. No please?

708
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:38.199
Yeah? No, Like, there
is some interesting people like Gabe Kid who

709
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:44.199
is pretty good on the mic as
well. There's yeah, there's certain people

710
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:50.000
in AW yeah, Nick Nemeth.
There's like Zach Saber Junior too, Like,

711
01:02:50.039 --> 01:02:53.880
there's some interesting people that can talk
back with m JF. And and

712
01:02:53.920 --> 01:03:00.480
then there's also if he is starting
a faction, is that that then I

713
01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:07.400
think the most obvious opponents would be
the elite because he's kind of raw rah

714
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:10.480
ae w and there who does he
take with him? Who does he mean

715
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:15.760
he likes to join. I feel
like CR is who I want to see

716
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:20.239
just because I love FTR and I
love m JF and they already have that

717
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:28.159
history with the Pinnacle. FTR is
kind of that some remarks about NJF not

718
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:32.599
not treating them the best kind of
outside of k Fabe in the Pinnacle,

719
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:37.920
like he felt like he was too
good for them or something. Yeah,

720
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.679
I remember that article. Well.
I think FTR is a lot bigger of

721
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:45.599
a deal now than they were back
then, and and I like them together.

722
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.599
But he could go with the I'm
not throw out somebody who had his

723
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:54.719
history with who needs to come back
soon, and that's him and Stanbar worked

724
01:03:54.760 --> 01:04:00.800
together well when they did the Ring
of Honor, when they did the Four

725
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.159
Pillars. Thang. Uh, I
like Sammy, if you paired him with

726
01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:09.480
someone who could talk, I think
Sammy could do very well and make him

727
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:15.320
whatever. You know, he'll face
whatever. But uh, those two are

728
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.719
a good combination. They're both young, they're both they're both supposed to be

729
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:23.079
pillars, and that's a good story. Anyone else, I don't know any

730
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:27.639
tag teams the top of my head
that I put so it's wide open.

731
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.079
Yeah, it'd be interesting. There's
something to think about. Maybe maybe we'll

732
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:40.440
hear something tomorrow night that kind of
gives an idea of where this is going.

733
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:44.920
Maybe we won't, And if we
do get an idea where it's going,

734
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:49.880
maybe this is something we could talk
about tomorrow night. It'll be okay,

735
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:56.360
you just put an idea in my
head. Calson so comes out.

736
01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.639
The elite come out. They're like, oh, we're of an opponent.

737
01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:02.679
You won't be able to handle it. Forbidden door, and then they bring

738
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:10.199
out Minoro Suzuki the murder Grandpa,
and then Jeff pretended you're scared of him,

739
01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:15.119
and they thought the forbidden door match
and and you might as well just

740
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.239
make it a three way with Bako
then yeah, yeah, for sure they

741
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:29.199
could do that. I could see
Sammy coming out and being in the ring

742
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:38.800
with with uh with m j F. And then you're hi, guys,

743
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:47.079
yeah did you did you? Did
you wake up in a cold sweat realize

744
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:55.800
it was all just a bad dream. Yeah, you need to see somebody,

745
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.880
man, I really really think you
need some pete to talk to somebody.

746
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:02.320
What makes you think that I don't
see somebody already? Those dreams are

747
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:12.840
not good man, those are not
good dreams to be happy. Well well,

748
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:15.920
uh, speaking of tomorrow night,
we will be back tomorrow night with

749
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:21.079
All We Talk. Uh. So
that is the show for Ignition tonight.

750
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:27.519
Uh. Once again, thank you
to the aw fan a podcast team.

751
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:31.119
And uh, hey, you know, if we're on aw fan up subreddit,

752
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:35.639
make post great topics, give us
something to talk about. You know

753
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:41.559
that that we want to get our
ideas from you guys. So yeah,

754
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.440
so until tomorrow night with All Lee
Talk, when we'll do a review of

755
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:58.079
what we saw on dynamite. This
is Kelson Alex Bye guys, thank you. Bye,