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Welcome back, truth seekers. We
are here just outside of East Palestine.

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It's seven thirty pm Eastern time.
It was a beautiful day rolling around with

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the windows down. Really nice day. I went back obviously late afternoon into

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the early evening and there was a
lot more people out. I went to

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the East Palestine City Park, beautiful
park, and again please do go to

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Instagram. I have uploaded tons of
pictures and about a ninety second video of

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the actual site. They're proud Freemasons. Their signs, you know, whichever

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direction you come into town, there's
signs greeting you, proudly displaying you know

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what is that Lodge four seventeen,
their Order of the Eastern Star, Chapter

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three eighty one, and all of
these types of things. I'll tell you

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it seems half the town is doing
well and the other half of the town

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isn't doing so well. I had
a story. Let me pull up my

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notes here. I did stop at
like a local restaurant slash diner to talk

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with a few of the people.
It's called the Original Roadhoust if you want

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to look it up on Facebook or
Google, and that the guy grew up

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there. He said he grew up
there. His entire life. He moved

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away somewhere I think outside of Canton, Ohio maybe, and after the incident

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happened, of course he was shocked. Right, It's one of those things

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that you never think would happen in
your hometown. Obviously it was huge news

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when it happened, but he said
everyone in his family was ill. So

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he came back this past summer,
which would have been the summer of twenty

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twenty three, and you know he
it has definitely affected all the businesses.

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A lot of the employees there were
talking about out how they got their initial

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one thousand dollars payment from Norfolk Southern
and they were told that it was tax

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exempt. Well it turns out it
was not, and if they didn't pay

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it in their taxes. Now this
is again, this is the stories that

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I'm being told. But one of
the young ladies in there, I mean

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she was in her forties, she
said her parents is on SSI disability and

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it was taken out of her disability. So again February, these guys are

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going around and I have some audio
to play to prove it. Norfolk Southern,

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you know, we call them NDAs. I think they were actually the

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actual forms were called hold harmless forms, like here's a check for a thousand

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dollars, and I'm here to tell
you, for a lot of these people,

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one thousand dollars is a huge amount
of money, you know. You

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know, the economy is tough on
everyone. I've been running around all day.

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But apparently there's video of Janet Yellen
apologizing, well, I thought this

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was just going to be a temporary
hyperinflation type of deal. We're in big

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trouble. We're hitting a trillion dollars
every hundred days. Go to the deck

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clock and people were paying with change
when they were tapping out, and one

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guy apologized, I sorry, I
couldn't leave you a tip. I'll get

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you next time. You know,
it's a very interesting town. The park

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is beautiful, the what is it? The northwest side of town, older,

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like the nicer part of town.
And then you know there's another side

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of town where maybe people are struggling
little more. But they're all decent people

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going about their day. But none
of them really wanted to talk, which

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was you know, I get it, like maybe we live in a world

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where people are more comfortable talking to
people through their telephone. Who calls it

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a telephone anymore, right, their
cell phone, or their Instagram, or

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their tweets, or their messages,
right, even with their family members,

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We'll just send messages. So I
think a few of the people found it

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odd. You know, here's this
guy, you know, hey, do

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you got a minute? No happy, Nobody pulled out their mace. But

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so I went into more comfortable environments
and I sat down in two different diners

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type you know. The one was
called obviously, what did I say?

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That was called the original Roadhouse.
And then there was another place between my

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hotel and East Palestine, which obviously
was only three miles from East Palestine.

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And they're aware of the situation and
they just don't want to talk about it.

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I don't know if it's because of
the hold harmless, which some people

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basically nodded and said, you there
was, you know, this type of

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agreement when people accepted the money or
what it is. But the first few

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people I talked to they said,
yeah, yeah, they're being taken care

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of. But I will tell you
the people who I did talk to in

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the two had different stories that the
people aren't being helped maybe as much as

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they hoped they would be. And
then obviously the people who accept that the

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initial one thousand dollars and then it
was counted as income and then they had

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it deducted from their SSI. You
know, if that's true, then that's

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terrible, right, That's just horrible. But that's the government for you,

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right. So where do I want
to start. Let me go through my

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notes. I've got a little bit
of audio to play for you. By

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the way, the trains are rolling
again. There was a train that went

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right through downtown when I was leaving
the park. So again, we always

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look at the financial side of things. But before we do, we mentioned

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this. I want to play this
audio clip really briefly. I don't think

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I played it. This is the
National Transportation Safety Board chairman telling Senator Jdvance

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that the chemical explosion here in East
Palestine didn't have to happen. So I'll

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let you listen to it firsthand of
summarize. This is an extraordinary finding.

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We were told, effectively that there
were two bad options, the uncontrolled burn

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or excuse me, the controlled burn
or the uncontrolled explosion. And it seems,

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based on the data that we have, that there was not a ton

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of reason to do the uncontrolled burn, and that of course, is what

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spread toxic chemicals all over this community
and the surrounding region. It's really an

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extraordinary finding. It goes to highlight
the importance of your work. But I

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also have to note that the residents
on the ground talk about the fact that

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immediately after the uncontrolled burn, they
moved the tank cars and train traffic was

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moving through their town and moving through
their community. I won't ask you to

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speak to motivations here, but when
you have an unnecessary, uncontrolled burn that

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poisoned a lot of people that then
led to rapid transitive train traffic, a

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lot of people, including me,
are wondering did they do this not because

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it was necessary, but because it
allowed them to move traffic and freight more

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quickly. And if so, that
is an extraordinary thing that I think requires

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a lot of further work from this
committee, from others. But we will

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we will stop there because I see
my time is up. Thank you to

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to here. How many may I
add something something to that? Senator?

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It's even you know, I would
say, the factual information in our docket

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shows that oxy Vinyls was on scene
and providing information to Norfolk Southern and their

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contractors on the fourth fifth and sixth, they informed them that polymerization. They

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believed polymerization was not occurring and there
was no justification to do a vent and

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burn. Rightfully, Norfolk Southern's contractors
said ruled out hot tapping and transloading because

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it would have been a potential safety
issue for their employees, but there was

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another option, let it cool down. It was cooling down. We know

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for a fact that when that pressure
relief device went off that it had to

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have been above one hundred and eighty
five degrees. Later, much late,

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over the course of twenty two hours, that tank car was cooling, not

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to mention the other four tank cars
that were only between sixty four and sixty

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nine degrees. So oxy vinyls was
on scene providing information to Norfolk southerns contractor,

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who was in the room when the
decision made was made, and when

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advice was given to the Governor of
Ohio. To the incident commander, they

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were not given full information because no
one was told Oxyvinyl was on scene.

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They were left out of the room. The incident commander didn't even know they

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existed, neither did the governor,
so they were provided incomplete information to make

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a decision and there you go,
incomplete information to make a decision. How

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surprising. There was no justification to
do this vent and burn. You heard

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it right there. And I apologize
if the volumes between my microphone and these

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audio are a little off. I'm
not with my master mixer. But here's

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a few things I wanted to talk
about. I'm want to leave this document.

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This is from the EPA and this
is basically a recent revision that includes

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a lot of the people who were
contracted by both the local, the state,

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and federal government. These people who
are making contracts. The first company

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is called Arcadis. Arcadis and I'm
going to put all this information in the

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show notes. And this is a
global company. It's a big company.

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Their shares are sit at about sixty
two dollars a share. And again,

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if you look through it, these
are one of these companies that are getting

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scooped up. And they're quite a
powerful company. So they are making a

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lot of money off of what's happening. And of course you know this is

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needed. But at the same time, these companies are doing quite well.

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SPsi is the second one, so
I should say Arcadis is responsible for segregating

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the waste on site storage, labeling
it right and then sampling it and then

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tracking it so that they have a
big portion of the contract. When the

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waste comes over, it segregated,
they store it to ensure it doesn't affect

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anyone else. They label it,
they sample it, and they track it.

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Then the next company is called SPsi. That is a very small company

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and it's in Pennsylvania, so obviously
they're benefiting from it. Their jobs is

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more logistical. They're part of coordinating, they build for transportation of the liquid

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wastes, the equipment operator for solid
waste loading. Then the next company is

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Green Rock and that is another big
company as well. They are based out

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of Charleston, South Carolina, and
they're in the news a lot as well,

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a big up and coming company,
and their job is where we at

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here. Green Rock another one of
these coordination and billing for transportation of solid

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waste. And then you have CTEH
which is responsible for monitoring the tank farm

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and the solid waste area. And
it's interesting because they are known as having

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a checkered past and they're again responsible
for monitoring the air and eas Palestine,

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and that company has been cited by
lawmakers for releasing findings defending the corporate interests

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that employ them. So basically what
they're saying is that they're privy to taking

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payoffs to say, okay, this
is good to save Norfolk Southern lots of

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money. So that's a big deal. And this article from Prospect dot org,

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and there's several articles out there,
but it talks about how this company

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CTEH, which stands for the Center
for Toxicology and Environmental Health. Again,

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it is a private, for profit
corporation that has been present in a lot

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of disasters. Guess what they were
on the ground at nine to eleven Katrina

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deep Water Horizon in COVID nineteen and
now Norfolk Southern has hired them for this

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occasion and onto other spills. So
again, if you get if Norfolk Southern

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gets to say, who gets to
say, you know, good job or

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not? Right, it's basically having
your teacher on your payroll, right,

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and then you tell your teacher,
I got one hundred on that test,

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right teacher, oh yeah, yeah
yeah, And then you drop one hundred

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dollars bill in her desk and you
walk out. That is preposterous. So

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you know, we'll do some research
into CTEH that's a big problem. That

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is a huge problem. And then
Heppico, another big, big company.

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I had a news story on them
here somewhere, but it is another big

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company. Their responsibilities are traffic coordination
for the tank farm. So I'm assuming,

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because I don't see a company that
I posted on Instagram, AWP Safety,

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I'm assuming Hepico subcontracted AWP Safety to
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flagging. Anytime the trucks are moving
out, they would come out, they

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would block the roads. The trucks
would go to the other farm where they

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take the waste, They consolidate it, they test it, like we were

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talking about early Arcadis's responsibility. So
Hepico subcontracted AWP Safety, who also they've

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been in the news quite a bit
lately as well. They just purchased someone

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else for four hundred million dollars.
The numbers involved with both the disaster and

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the companies involved are staggering in hundreds
of millions of dollars, and one of

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the stories are at Today quoted it
as being close just under a billion dollars

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what they've spent so far, and
a lot of people are making money off

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of it. The SPCI subcontractor.
They got cronin Clean Harbors. That's the

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one I wanted to mention because Clean
Harbors is a giant company. Their stock

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price is almost two hundred dollars per
share, so they just a huge corporation

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and it's a big deal. So
again, a lot of these companies are

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making a lot of money off of
this disaster. I want to pull my

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notes out and continue on that note, which is again from THEEPA dot gov,

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which talks about the site history.
It lists every everything that was leaked

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from the train, vinyl chloride,
propylene glycol, ethyl hexel, acrylle,

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petroleum, lube oil, ethyl alcohol, polyvinyl. Of course, all of

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these things were leaked and then of
course burned off, which didn't need to

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be done. And again you come
into this town and there's the Order of

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the Eastern Star Freemasons. I posted
pictures of the Masonic Lodge, lots of

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pictures and videos on Instagram at the
fact Hunard. Again, half the pe

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people are really struggling and half the
people seem to be doing okay. And

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that's really the bottom line. And
of course there was a push for a

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rail safety bill to get pushed through
the year after the East Palestine derailment.

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But the story goes that some Congressional
Republicans have ejected to the regulations that would

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be imposed on the railroad industry.
And this is something that really goes back

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to Abraham Lincoln. He was very
subservient to the railroad industry. So again

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it seems like people are looking out
for the big guy, which in this

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case is Norfolk Southern, then looking
out for the little guy, which are

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the people of East Palestine. And
then let's look at the Attorney General of

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Ohio. He says that the settlement
of East Palestine lawsuit is not imminent,

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and again this is thirteen months on. Ohio Attorney General David Yos said Friday

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that his office will not agree to
settle with Norfolk Southern without a detailed understanding

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of how a train carrying hazardous chemicals
derailed in the town of East Palestine a

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year ago. In a statement on
Friday, one day before the anniversary of

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the crash of this article was again
three weeks ago, yo said he does

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not anticipate in imminent resolution to the
fifty eight count federal lawsuit that he filed

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against the railroad last year, and
it goes on to say, you know,

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there are whispers of a settlement being
worked out to bring this tragedy to

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an end. And make no mistake, we all want closure on this avoidable

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disaster. But I cannot in good
conscience agree to a settlement without a detailed

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understanding of what happened, who was
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like East Palestine from being victims to
this type of incident. No responsible person

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should want to rush judgment in the
form of a settlement without having all the

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facts. It would be irresponsible.
So you know, the gentleman side of

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me is saying, well, this
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He wants to make sure that the
people who made the mistakes are held

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accountable so this will never happen again. But the conspiratorial side of me says,

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is this guy in cahoots with Big
Railroad? Is he dragging right?

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Is he waiting it out? Is
he playing the long game, hoping people

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just give up and forget about it. I don't put anything past politicians,

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and I will tell you what was
I going to say. I had it

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on the tip of my dumb oh. I had mentioned about the CEO of

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Norfolk Southern getting the huge rays right, he went from what eight million to

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thirteen million per year, and that
really everybody was aware of that, Like

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everyone in that room was completely aware
of it. And they don't like that

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guy. I mean, obviously that's
like Captain Obvious times one hundred. But

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I just found it interesting that,
like everybody was aware that guy got a

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five million dollar raise. So,
you know, as usual as per and

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the other thing people mentioned, they're
very cognizant of all the hundreds of millions

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of dollars, billions of dollars going
out every week to Ukraine, Israel,

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you know, all around the world
to illegal immigrants coming through. But when

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it comes to people whose lives were
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well, we're going to drag our
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that's the long game. They wear
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up with another distraction. Eventually there'll
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will probably go to lawyer's fees.
That's usually how it works. And by

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the way, if you're not tracking, there was a diesel train that derailed

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and spilled diesel into the Lehigh River
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eastern side of pennsyl s Ania.
You know, we're seeing this stuff more

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and more all the time. Is
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companies? Is it truly accidents just
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Who knows, But there is a
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on. It's hard to keep up
with. I have a couple clips to

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play for you. The first one
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a whold harmless form and this is
what we were talking about earlier. Unfortunately

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many residents did sign this. We're
going to bring it now. Investigative corresponder

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Rich mc kew, who was also
in East Palestine, And Rich, you've

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been looking into Norfolk Southern, the
actual train company. Yep, good evening

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call, that's right. So there's
new scrutiny on Norfolk Southern Southern the train

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company, and there's safety record over
the past years, but there's also scrutiny

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over how they're handling this locally.
Folks to a couple just a little bit

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ago who wanted their home tested to
see if it was contaminated because they lived

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close to the site. Norfolk Southern
basically asked them to sign a whole harmless

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agreement, which would indemnify them.
The couple refused. Take a look,

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it's nothing that a person could ever
imagine experiencing from one day going to a

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beautiful place, a beautiful home,
multiple businesses one day and it's beautiful and

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it's thriving, to the next day
feeling like you have absolutely nothing. It's

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surreal. Caitlin Schwartzwelder and her boyfriend
Chris Wells, lived just down the tracks

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from where the train derailed and the
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I have symptoms myself. I know
other people have been having symptoms. My

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symptoms have been like my eyes,
pulsating, headaches, and tangling nests a

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little bit. They helped maintain police
dogs and had to transport over thirty from

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their home for they say got sick
and this was the water they pulled from

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around their pretty After the chemical release
last week, Caitlin says that Norfolk Southern,

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the company that operated the train,
came to the door to test for

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toxins in their home, but before
they could they would need to sign this

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document. We were told that they
were an independent testing agency. Before they

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could enter the premises. They handed
us a contract. The contract was essentially,

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you know, to be able to
get onto the property, but also

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at the bottom was a whole harmless
agreement. It states that upon signature,

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the landowner agrees to hold harmless the
company for any and all legal claims personal

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injury or property damage. She refused
to sign. So, if I get

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this straight, Norfolk Southern essentially asked
you to sign a hold harmless agreement in

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exchange for testing correct, and you
did not sign correct? Would they give

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you the paper? They did not
give us the paper. I asked if

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I could take a physical picture with
my cell phone of the paper, and

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I did. Ohio Senator jd Vance
is outraged. We contacted Norfolk Southern right

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away and the answer that they gave
us not joking what that was an accidental

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indignification agreement. We didn't mean to
give her that when we gave her the

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wrong one. Okay, come on. It all raises serious questions about Norfolk

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Southern and their history of safety.
The communities that these products are running through,

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they should be made aware of what's
going through their backyard. It shouldn't

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be a mystery as to what's inside
the tank car. In fact, Norfolk

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Southern has had one hundred and eleven
freight train accidents in the last year one

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hundred and twenty five the year prior, making them one of the worst in

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terms of safety. Norfolk Southern didn't
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How do you feel about that?
From what I've been told, they

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are worried about their safety, but
they're not worried about our safeties. Now,

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Caitlyn says that several hundred of her
neighbors did sign this, despite the

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fact that she didn't sign it.
I asked Norfolk Southern if they wish to

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comment. They have yet to respond. Nicole, thank you for watching.

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Good All right, there's our first
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The second clip is the attorney explains
why he told clients to decline Northern Norfolk

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Southern payments. Attorney Micha Oshay represents
a number of East Palestine residents. He

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joins US Live Mike, thank you
for your time. So you're representing these

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residents here, have you already filed
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if so, what are they alleging
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Well? Thank you. We have
filed two class actions last night. The

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first was a class action dedicated to
try to get medical monitoring for the people

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that have been injured already by these
chemicals. The second class action is one

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that we'll deal with property damage.
And as a matter of fact, I'm

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right now out at one of our
clients who runs up a bed and breakfast

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whose business is essentially shut down from
being overwhelmed with business, you know,

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up until February second, by whose
business is dead as a door nail going

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forward from February third. All right, So, Mike, we know that

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two user clients, if they were
able to afford it, to reject this

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one thousand dollars so called inconvenience offer
from Norfolk Southern tell us, why,

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well, because of the conditions they
were having they being Norfolk and Southern.

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We're having folks, these good folks
signed these things called W nine's, so

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that would be reported as functional income
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They were also having them give Norfolk
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numbers, stuff like that, and
they were having them sign a form and

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then they were taking this inconvenience fee
of one thousand dollars per person and combining

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it with a reimbursement amount and giving
them one check. Now, you know,

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there's a doctor in an ohiolaw called
the cord and satisfaction, which means

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if you back into somebody's car,
to give you an example, and you

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get out and you go, here's
a one hundred bucks sorry for the damage,

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and that person goes and gets an
estimate two days later and it's five

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hundred bucks. Then that person that
you'd backed into can't get the other four

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hundred bucks from you because they took
that money. It was essentially a handshake

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deal. You've settled the claim.
So we were just testifying today in Pennsylvania

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and a senate, you know,
a state senate hearing about this very issue.

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And there are a lot of people
in the audience that are very angry

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about this check business. And believe
me when I tell you, a thousand

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bucks to a lot of hard working
people up here in East Palastine where we

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are is a lot of money and
a very very tempting amount of money.

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And Mike, my last question for
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maybe isn't fair at this point because
there's so much left to assess. But

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how long do you anticipate it it's
going to take for your clients to ultimately

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recover from this. Well, I'll
tell you this. The only way lawsuits

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like this take a long time is
if the defendant tries to make it take

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a long time. With one caveat
Now, a lot of these folks are

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going to be able to get fair
market appraisals for the lost value of their

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property and come up with the price
tag, and then it'll be up to

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Norfolk and Southern to pay that amount. Then there's going to be a longer

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period of time because our medical monitoring
class action is going to, essentially,

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because of the nature of the chemicals
we're dealing with, require that Norfolk and

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Southern pay to have these folks health
monitored for the next ten, fifteen or

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twenty years to make sure that they
don't manifest any of the more serious injuries

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that you can get. So some
of it will take a long time,

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but some of it shouldn't take a
long time, all right. Mike O'Shea

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attorney four several clients. They are
in East Palestine. Thank you for your

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time, sir boy. And there's
a lot to unpack from that one,

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he has so many nails on the
head. That was the biggest concern.

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And if I didn't drive that home
enough that these people are genuinely concerned about

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long term health issues. Genuinely concern
And if you go back and watch the

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video, actually, you know,
I'll put all of these clips in the

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show notes. This one's entitled Attorney
explains why he told clients to decline Norfolk

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Southern payments. While they're discussing this, they were showing clips of the explosion

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in it it looked like a small
mushroom cloud. So again, not just

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the people you know right there within
the geolocation of that incident, but the

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people you know downstream from the water. There is water that runs parallel to

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the accident site. And again,
understand how big of a cleanup it is.

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That happened February third, twenty twenty
three. Here it is March thirteenth,

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twenty twenty four, so it's been
thirteen and a half months and they

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are still going through this. That
is just incredible, and it's look,

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it's not any anytime soon. You
know, You've got a lot of contractors

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making a lot of money, You've
got lawyers making a lot of money.

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Anytime there's a class action lawsuit,
the lawyers get their chunk first, and

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it's a big portion of it.
And the little guys they always get crushed,

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right. And I'm telling you,
I drove around the entire town,

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and the one thousand dollars did mean
a lot to a lot of people.

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And then to hear stories like well
then they want to tax it right,

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and all these other things, and
again long term effects ten fifteen years.

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Do you really think Norfolk Southern is
still going to be paying people's medical bills

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in twenty thirty five, I would
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not. That's what big corporations do. What a slap in the face for

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an incident of that scale to happen, and just looking at it thirteen months

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later, I can't even fathom how
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they want to just hand someone one
thousand dollars sorry for your troubles. Oh,

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we accidentally, we didn't really mean
to have that whold harmless form there.

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That was an accident. We're sorry, we didn't mean that. And

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then I don't know if I've played
this one before, but this is the

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one year anniversary. This was a
couple of weeks ago from ABC News East

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Palestine, Ohio. It's been a
year since that toxic train derailment, some

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residents still reporting health problems. ABC's
Alex Purche has been following this from the

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very beginning and is in Ohio with
the latest. Good Morning, Alex Ariel.

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This morning, we're getting a new
look at new drone video released by

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the NTSB of that derailment site and
the toxic plume, and it's only amplifying

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questions raised by this East Palestine community
for the last year. This morning,

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new video showing the toxic plume one
year ago in East Palestine, Ohio.

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Today, the town is still shrouded
in a cloud of uncertainty. Authorities insists

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the soil and tap water are safe, but many residents simply aren't buying it.

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I had headaches, metallic taste in
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live about three miles from the derailment. Months after the accident, both tested

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positive for vinyl chloride, a carcinogen, aboard that train, and weeks later

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Wayne was diagnosed with breast cancer.
Wayne, do you think your breast cancer

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is linked to that derailment. I
can you say for sure, quite it

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seems awful. You feel confident that
this area is safe. I very much

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feel confident this area is safe.
I can tell you I've been here from

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you know, the very beginning here, and I'm not having issues. Norfolk

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Southern and the EPA have taken forty
five thousand samples since the accident. No

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readings or results for contaminants have been
found above actionable levels, and the railroad

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saying it's invested more than one hundred
and three million dollars into the region.

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But the pressure to an measures to
keep this from happening again is growing.

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So was the scrutiny of the East
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there were a lot of mistakes,
whether they're credinal mistakes. I got to

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see more evidence where I can say
that. Now. The NTSB investigation is

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slated to rap later this year,
and President Biden, who's scheduled to visit

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later this month, is being urged
by many here to declare a federal disaster.

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Wait all right, Alex for sche
thank you, and there you go.

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Oh Biden coming through right. You've
got to love it, so,

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you know, We're going to go
through town again tomorrow. I'm going to

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walk around and talk to a few
more folks Tonight. We're going to leave

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before lunch tomorrow. There's a storm
coming through and the last thing that I

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want to do is drive the Pennsylvania
Turnpike and rain five and a half hours.

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But it's an interesting town. It
really is. If you're ever driving

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through, you know, you can
say, hey, yeah, I saw

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that place, even though it was
a year ago, and it's an interesting

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town. It's not a very big
town. Again, the twenty twenty Senses,

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I believe it said it was forty
seven hundred people. It just really

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boggles my mind that they have so
many little Masonic lodges Order of the Eastern

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Star. They have another type of
Moose lodge. They've got a golf course.

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And then there's the other side of
town, like the other side of

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the tracks, as they say,
and it's a completely different life. That's

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why it's very keen sense of half
the people seem to be doing well,

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in the other half not so much. So definitely keep these people in your

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prayers. These are real people,
you know. The one thing that I

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didn't even have the I didn't remember
to ask or even if I should ask.

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But again, that movie White Noise
is that's just a coincidence that that

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was filmed and was it twenty twenty
one and two years later that exact thing

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happened. Maybe I'll there's a restaurant
within walking distance. I'll walk down there

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and see if I can find somebody, and if we're friendly enough, maybe

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I'll just mention it to him.
But again, there's not too many conspiratorial

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minds like us, right, But
there you go, Hey, listen all

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again. Instagram at the fact Hunter
lots of pictures and there's a video of

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the site I put up there.
So go to Instagram at the fact hunter

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for pictures and video. And then
tomorrow when I get back, there's another

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big story that will be breaking,
I think. At three o'clock Eastern time,

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which is eight o'clock in France,
good Old Macrone will be speaking to

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the Nation of France. He's scheduled
to give an urgent address to the nation

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Thursday evening at eight pm Local time, which is three pm Eastern time,

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to discuss the situation in Ukraine.
The French Parliament approved the French President's strategy

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towards Ukraine and supported the Bilateral Security
Agreement that was signed by Macron and Zelensky.

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Under this bilateral Security Agreement, a
country like France can agree to send

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its active duty military troops into Ukraine, which would be separate and distinct from

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a NATO action. So all eyes
on France tomorrow. I don't think he

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would have the kahonis right to actually
do that, because you know, you

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send a NATO you know, we
know there's been NATO folks there, there's

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been contractors there working on the Patriot
missile batteries, et cetera. But to

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actually have troops in there that you
know, officially, that would be a

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big deal and I think it would
be seen as an escalation. So all

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eyes on France tomorrow. Again,
thank you to everybody for your continued support

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and your prayers, and certainly for
the people of East Palestine and the surrounding

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areas. By the way, a
lot of the local businesses obviously suffered.

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There's still many of them that have
not reopened thirteen months later. There's a

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couple of restaurants, and of course
the gas station which where it happened,

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right behind the gas station, so
there you go. I think that's it

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for now. I'm going to go
take a walk. It's been a long

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day, and get some sleep,
and take one more run through the town

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tomorrow, and then we're going to
head back to the homestead. I missed

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the chickens and the dogs and missus
Hobbs. We've been talking most of the

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day, and it's been a while
since I've been away. Right, this

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was like par for the course for
quite some time, going away for you

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know, years at a time.
So, but this is very important to

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me, these stories, to see
them firsthand. Right, It's something that's

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close enough where you can get to
it, to see it, to get

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a feel for it, talk to
local people, and to see how,

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you know, all levels of government, from the mayor to the county,

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to the state to the federal government, have they come through for these people,

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and per you know, per usual, it certainly seems like they're more

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concerned about big corporations than the local
folks who are truly affected. So God

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Bless, keep your head on a
swivel, and we'll talk again real soon.

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Guys, don't forget at the fact
on our Instagram, God Bless,

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we'll see it