WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:14.720 You'll be luck don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's 2 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.920 do this for August twenty eight to twenty twenty three. For the next hour 3 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.000 or so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on Game 4 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:25.440 Mess Mornings Live with me Jeff Grub Today rock Star loses another big game and 5 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:28.800 the game's industry is growing in the United States. But first please join me 6 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:32.560 and welcoming today's co host a Game Mess Mornings. It's lex Lutty. Everybody, 7 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.600 Lexie. How are you doing? So tired? Jeff? Jeff, 8 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:42.119 I'm so tired. I'm okay. It's it's wild out there, I tell 9 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:50.079 you. I so like every minute of this weekend was either doing like stuff 10 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:53.159 I have to do around the house, feed the kids, bow the lawn. 11 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:56.159 I'm traveling soon, so I gotta get stuff done like with that in 12 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.920 mind, or playing games for work and there's a lot. I got like 13 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.079 three games sort of prepped and ready to go for quick looks, and now 14 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.400 I got to take the kid to a speech later today, so I'm like, 15 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:10.599 when am I gonna do that? And we'll figure it out after this. 16 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.359 Having some issues with some games and stuff like that, it'll be a 17 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:19.040 whole thing. So yeah, it's it's it's been busy, but you've been 18 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.280 traveling and all these games are coming out. I'm like, yeah, I'm 19 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.680 like, listen, I'm looking forward to packs, but this is the most 20 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.079 messed up week and the packs could have ever happened. Is the week that 21 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:34.079 Starfield comes out. I've just fucking given up on playing games at the moment. 22 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.680 I'm just like, I'll just play some like fucking Kirby. I'll keep 23 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.920 chipping away. Yes, And because I just gave up on like trying the 24 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.480 seam deck, I love it. That travel case is fucking huge and I'm 25 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:48.400 not putting that into a bag. But yeah, I was at Games Calm 26 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.879 and I'm going to like, I'm starting college up next week, so I 27 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:57.400 have to move again to move back for college. And yeah, I think 28 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:01.159 my roommate had access to mccore for review. They only got like two days 29 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.000 early, so they were trying to play it on like an air plane and 30 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:09.240 ship on their seam deck and that didn't seem like a great idea. But 31 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:13.000 yeah, I think it's just impossible to stay up with any of the games 32 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.240 at the moment and just hope that there will be enough of a lull towards 33 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.840 winter, maybe, I say hopefully, But then I think about the stuff 34 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:23.159 that I saw at Games Calm, and I'm like, no, I want 35 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.639 to play all the ship that's coming out in winter. Yep, yep, 36 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.080 it's gonna be again non stop. In fact, I think reviews dropped this 37 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:34.039 morning for Sea if Stars. Maybe we'll take a look and that I played 38 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.719 a little bit of that game. I've been so busy, I've only had 39 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:38.319 enough time to play a little bit. I think Jams played a little bit 40 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:43.080 more. But he's also playing a ton of stuff. So we'll see. 41 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.199 We'll see what we could talk about. We'll see when we can do stuff 42 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:46.560 with that game. But what I've played of it, I really like. 43 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:52.840 I think it's pretty good. It looks really good. Yeah, we've got 44 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.159 plenty to get in too, But let's explain what we do here first. 45 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.080 Most week days, I Jeff Grebill, help piece your game in life back 46 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.240 together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own original reporting. 47 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.199 For all these topics, I'll get the input of a bona fide expert 48 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.199 who will make me look smart. If you were watching live on Twitch, 49 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.759 welcome you can always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for 50 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:15.919 Games Mornings, or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You can 51 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:21.080 also catch the show later with chapters in timestamps on YouTube. Hello YouTube, 52 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.840 all right, we jump into the news please. Yes, I need to 53 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:29.159 thank you for having for doing Game Mess last week, because walking around the 54 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.759 show floor and having something to listen to so that I could distract myself from 55 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:37.000 the thongs of people, it allowed me to elevate to a higher plane. 56 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.159 Just you and Jan and MA five and I can't remember who else was on 57 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:45.159 last week, but it was very, very nice. And the other thing 58 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.479 I wanted to talk about because it came up a bit, and it was 59 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:53.400 the conversation on the ground at Gamescom was safety at these events. Oh sure, 60 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:57.240 And I think it's something that's like worth actually given a little bit of 61 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:59.879 time too. Yeah, please, yeah, because I mean, I mean, 62 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.240 obviously a lot of this is going to be spurred from guy GTA six, 63 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.360 guy going up on stage and yelling about that game during Opening Night Live 64 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:11.000 and this has that'd been the second time something's like that happened like that to 65 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.840 Jeff Keiley. And if you can get to Jeff Keeley, you can get 66 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:17.319 to any of us. Yeah, And I think something that I said on 67 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.560 Twitter and I sam by it, like, I think Jeff does a great 68 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.639 job with those shows. He puts all our work in. But if you've 69 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:29.959 been working on making these shows, he's hired to make these shows. He's 70 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.240 hired to run these shows. He's an event organizer. Now he's our journalist. 71 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:35.639 He's an event organizer. Oh yeah, And if you get hired to 72 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:39.040 do that, you don't just get hired to do the fun stuff. You 73 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.639 don't just get hired to meet the directors, to talk to people that you 74 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.360 like and hang out with cool people. You also have to go, hey, 75 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.040 I don't own this, you know thing, but what is our security 76 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.759 like because we are selling tickets to the public, and are we actually going 77 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:59.000 to look at who's coming in and also are we going to you know, 78 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.439 check their bags? Definitely the first day of games calm me personally, I 79 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.959 just walked in an hour early. I mean, like, let's be real, 80 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.319 Like, how many people are at games Camp that I think they remember 81 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:15.360 this year was three hundred and fifty thousand people. Yeah, and there's not 82 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.439 really a security force on Earth that can check that many people, and I 83 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:23.759 do agree with you, but I also definitely feel that the security that was 84 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:29.279 there, maybe this year more than last year, felt lax. In certain 85 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:31.240 ways. It's good when you get to the business area and there's pure like 86 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.079 it's people from the actual companies checking who's coming in to see the games because 87 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:40.319 they know their ship. But when it's the people that the clone Messa has 88 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:42.920 hired out, and like, I'm not holding anything against them, They're just 89 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.480 doing their job, but like they have so many people to get through that 90 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.839 it's just like the came point where like my bags weren't checked several times going 91 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.839 in, other people had their bags checked by having the sides tapped of them, 92 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:59.360 and then they were just like let through. And I definitely was like 93 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:00.800 I had a moment went where I was like, if we were to do 94 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.199 like an E three again and they tried to open it up to the public 95 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.560 and this was the style of security, I would not feel safe going. 96 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.959 And the other thing that came up a lot towards the end of the show 97 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:21.399 was that for the despite these the industry coming a long way, it is 98 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:28.199 still dangerous to be Minwosi person, a person of color of a queer woman, 99 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:34.040 any kind of woman in the industry at these events, and by Sunday 100 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:41.160 I had heard stories of people being harassed at booths, people having awkward encounters 101 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:47.040 in the business area, which it just is not fucking arm And I heard 102 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:54.920 stories of develop of a searching person in a business area giving out two a 103 00:06:55.120 --> 00:07:00.079 journalists about a review at their website for being for being too low and which 104 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:05.000 is some real fucking good old day shish. And even back in the good 105 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.720 old days, that feels like that rarely happened. It's like, man, 106 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:14.000 it's just bad form all around. And that wound up the worst thing that 107 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:15.319 I heard during the event. And I won't going to too many data. 108 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.439 I had my wallet's stolen, but that was more of a median an idiot 109 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:26.319 problem. But those stories of people getting roofied parties and then waking up events, 110 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.839 Yeah, And the fact that we are still doing this at every event 111 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.879 and we've gone into the point where we're just like this just happens. And 112 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:39.600 the fact that someone can wake up by the side of an extremely deep river 113 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:45.879 in the middle of like the niche towards the morning, by a taxi driver 114 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.680 and not know what happened to them and then they have to go in and 115 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:55.120 work in the show floor the next day. That's fucked. Yeah, I 116 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:59.519 think the industry needs to have a proper conversation about how we actually keep ourselves 117 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:05.439 safe because you can't send developers, you can't send pressed, you can't send 118 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.959 people to work at these shows for work like with their too, work with 119 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.639 it to do your jobs right, and how it be straight up dangerous in 120 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.759 places, and we all just accepted yep, and this is uh, we've 121 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.160 heard stories like this out of GDC and then it definitely happened at like E 122 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:24.600 three, and it's it's one of those things where it's it does require active 123 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.040 engagement from people worried, like making an effort on these things, because otherwise 124 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.720 it's like as soon as you're like, well we solve that problem, they'll 125 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.840 like it'll come back, and it'll usually come roaring back. So uh yeah, 126 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.799 I think you're never going to stamp out every problem, but you need 127 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.399 to be making every effort and it needs to be at top of mind because 128 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.200 that's when that at least when people know that you're doing something about it, 129 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.639 it might mitigate some of these attempts to make these events nightmares for someone else. 130 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:00.679 Yes, and we had we had not been talking about it leaning up 131 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.000 to something like games Com, and you hope like, okay, well let's 132 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.440 start talking about what happened, what did happen, and so that next year 133 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.240 that if they don't address it, that there's no excuse anymore. There's absolutely 134 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.799 always use. We always talk about it after these events we never talked about 135 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:18.559 before. We never say, hey, you know, here are some you 136 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.159 see a couple of threads going around, but you don't see them get shared 137 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.600 that widely of like hey, if you see me and you're feeling distressed or 138 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.000 you're in a bad spot, come come up and talk to me and I'll 139 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.679 help you out. We do see things like that, but we see so 140 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.440 little of it before, and we don't see it on the company side of 141 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.799 them talking to their developers before they send them out and they're like, hey, 142 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.120 if something happens to you, you can come to our hat and talk 143 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.919 to us about it, which is what HATR should be there to do, 144 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.440 and to protect those people. We know that they're obviously they're protect the company, 145 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.639 but if the company is sending their employees, it should be in their 146 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:54.200 interest to protect their people. And I think this is something that we just 147 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.519 need to talk about before these events rather than after, because people go to 148 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.600 these events, they get excited they saw having fallen. IM that's when bad 149 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.120 shit happens. Yeah, and we see that even just like having the conversation. 150 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.480 People could be like, you know, just like what good is talk? 151 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:09.960 But you uh, we have these conversations about like, hey, Jeff 152 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.559 Kelly didn't have a lot of people on a lot of women on stage during 153 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:18.600 Summer game Fest, and it definitely wasn't perfect at opening that live, but 154 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.440 you could tell that he heard that criticism and made some attempts to do to 155 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.960 do something about it. The next time around, it still wasn't great, 156 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:28.960 but it was much better. And I think that, you know, and 157 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.159 all that comes from just like talking about it, which is inherently criticism, 158 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.440 which is what we're trying to do here. And I think, yeah, 159 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.759 I think it's worth continuing to have that conversation. Uh. And and maybe 160 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:45.320 like we're right asking these questions directly to these organizations as we go into them, 161 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.720 and maybe we'll ask packs what they're doing this year. All right, 162 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:52.159 let's thanks for bringing that up, Lexi. I appreciate it all right. 163 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.879 Let yeah, no problem. Yeah. I mean we go in there and 164 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:00.320 seeing it firsthand and hearing those stories, I'm glad you were able to that. 165 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:01.480 Here, Okay, we have a lot to get into, so let's 166 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.679 start the morning mess with. Rockstar Games has lost its vice president of writing. 167 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:09.360 This comes from my Nintendo news. Rockstar Games, the developers behind the 168 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.879 beloved Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Redemption series, has lost yet another writer, 169 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.919 Vice President of Writing Michael Unsworth has left the studio. According to his 170 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.440 LinkedIn profile, This is now the second of three writers who worked on the 171 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:26.440 critically acclaimed Red Dead Redemption two who have left the company. Rockstar Games previously 172 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:33.279 lost Dan Houser. Dan Houser not Dan Houser, who was the lead writer 173 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.840 for for a number of classic rock Star games. Michael Unsworth has worked on 174 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.639 games like Grand Theft Auto four, A bunch of the DLC, Chinatown Wars, 175 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:46.159 Midnight Club, Red Dead, Redemptions, Max Pain three, La Nawar 176 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:52.080 Redd, Red Dead Online, just contributed a lot and was now vice president 177 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:58.480 of writing. This is I think part of this the shift of what's going 178 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:03.519 on over at rock Star where the people that made rock Star originally have a 179 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.919 sort of run out of run like they run out of like a highway over 180 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.720 there, underneath Take two and underneath uh you know, yeah rock star itself 181 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.960 to like make their careers make sense. At a certain point, you can 182 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:18.320 only move up so high in an organization, like we created a title called 183 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:24.679 VP vising exactly very real position that makes a lot of sense when you think 184 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.080 about it, exactly right, Yes, uh, it is definitely one of 185 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.720 those like, hey man, we know, we know you gotta what you 186 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:33.080 want to keep moving up. We'll just make something up for you and throw 187 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.559 you a bone. So yeah, like at a certain point, like that's 188 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:39.360 just not going to work anymore. There's nowhere else for you to go. 189 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:43.600 You gotta start your own thing. Go to a different studio that might make 190 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.480 you an actual like C suite level executive or something like you know, chief 191 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.480 creative officer. Oh so kind of a made up thing, but that that 192 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:54.799 that's still like, you know, above what a vice president would be. 193 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:58.120 And I think a lot of these guys just felt stifled and now they're looking 194 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.879 to go, you know, stretch their legs somewhere else. And that's normal. 195 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.120 That happens in the games industry. But what do you think it means 196 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.080 for the future of rock Star. Yeah, I think I was. I'm 197 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:11.440 not surprised that there was a lot of like doomer sentiment around this on Twitter, 198 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.639 where people were like, oh, they've lost another one, like it's 199 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:20.440 obviously fucked whatever. I think that this is the type of progression that we 200 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.639 actually want in the industry. We want senior people to leave and start new 201 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.519 things so that more junior people who have also been there for like ten years 202 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:31.120 can actually take the lead rains on these projects and then say like, no, 203 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:35.200 this is what we're doing. And also the stories that we've heard from 204 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.720 Mark Star recently, like or the Skull but is like, hey, it's 205 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.240 quite a different studio to what it was five ten years ago. It's a 206 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:48.879 lot more buffoned up. They took on board a lot of the criticism. 207 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.000 They gosh, I'm not sure if there's still problems. The probably still is, 208 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.919 but I'm sure if you grew up or if you spent your entire career 209 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.759 working in a place that was one type of culture and then it goes to 210 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.120 or structured culture and a different culture, there is definitely a pound of you 211 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.960 that's like, well, like this wasn't what I was doing. I may 212 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.399 as well get out now, or even like, hey, the type of 213 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.000 writing that I was doing, like, it's not the type of writing they 214 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:16.600 want anymore. And you saw that with g G five when it re released 215 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.639 on the new consoles, they removed some of the extremely offensive depictions of trans 216 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:28.320 people Inish because they were like, hey, this was dry cushing satirical comedy. 217 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.960 In twenty thirteen, it wasn't. But now people will share up a 218 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.320 carll us out for this. And I think maybe there's a part where, 219 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.879 if you're a writer, you're like, well, maybe I've just like near 220 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:43.039 go try doing my writing stuff somewhere else and do it somewhere where those ideas 221 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.120 will either get through, or maybe I start with a wholly new idea instead 222 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:52.000 of just trying to like find the remaining crumbs of modern political statirical comedy that 223 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.600 I haven't already tackled. Let someone else from a new perspective and try to 224 00:14:56.600 --> 00:15:01.799 tackle it themselves. Yeah, I mean, I think it's all those factors, 225 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:07.000 right, all that pressure of having to follow up Grand Theft Auto five 226 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.480 and four and three and all those games with a new Great Theft Auto that 227 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.600 is just a satirical and makes sense in twenty twenty three a proposition that is 228 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:18.799 already nearly impossible to imagine pulling that has someone pulling that off. And then 229 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.600 then you're right, like, it's like, well, if they do pull 230 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.200 it off, do they still kind of go to those same wells that they 231 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:28.559 always went to, which I would expect that they, like the same creative 232 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.240 team probably would and that stuff. You're right, probably, I think within 233 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.279 rock Star even that stuff's probably like, hey, this is played out like 234 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.480 even if it's you know, yeah, we're hurting people's feelings a lot of 235 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.799 times, but if we're gonna be like, well, comedy hurts people's feelings, 236 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:46.440 and we're gonna be that that way about it, even doing that, 237 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:52.039 a lot of these jokes just aren't that funny anymore. And I can imagine 238 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.759 that conversation being like, hey, I wrote one of the best selling games 239 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:56.279 of all time. I don't will have to listen to anybody else, or 240 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.879 I feel like I shouldn't have to argue to get my jokes through, Like 241 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.320 you were saying, I think, yeah, that could be the kind of 242 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:04.480 thing where hey, I'm gonna go I could go do my own thing. 243 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.759 I have enough money, I have enough sway, there's enough money out there. 244 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:12.559 It's always a culmination of factors. It's never like usually it's never just 245 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.200 one thing. If it's someone who has a position that is clearly quite high 246 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.720 up and they're probably doing quite well for themselves, there's usually probably quite a 247 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.879 bit of things that are pushing them out and also pulling them out at the 248 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.120 same time, like reasons why they would go somewhere else and do something else. 249 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.720 And I mean and then the fandom, right, I mean, the 250 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:36.960 fantom seems rabid rabbit I should say rabbits, the raving and the rabbits. 251 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.200 Yeah, they are just losing their mind out there on multiple shows, screaming 252 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.919 GTA six in front of Jeff Kealey and rushing stages and say, oh man, 253 00:16:47.039 --> 00:16:49.080 it's not worth all this. It's just granted that bottom guys, I've 254 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:52.919 had this conversation with people a bunch of this weekend. But like, you 255 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.039 could not pay me enough to be a community manager at a big company. 256 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.919 Yeah, especially rock Star, Yeah, rock Star Activity, Asian Bungee, 257 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:07.000 any of those. I like, blizzards, just the amount of imagine logging 258 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.240 on every day. Jeff and having to like try to explain things to those 259 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:15.440 people who are just going to yell at you no matter what and have to 260 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:19.880 be polite all the time. It's like that image of Daisy and Smash Bros. 261 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:22.359 It's like, don't you ever just want to lose your shit? That's 262 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:30.000 what I imagine they're like constantly, Yes, definitely, now ask for like 263 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:34.119 what someone like Michael Wansworth couldn't end up dealing. He's probably going to start 264 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.000 his own thing or or join another team. But I mean there again, 265 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:41.559 there's enough money out there that he could just go bill the Rocket Boys very 266 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.759 nearby, yes exactly, Yeah, that he couldn't go work with them, 267 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:51.599 and they're hiring They are definitely hiring up yep. So we'll see. But 268 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.880 like all these all these big names from rock Star that are leaving aren't going 269 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.680 to go somewhere else start their own thing, work with one of these other 270 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.319 teams that have already started their own thing, and they'll kind of keep doing 271 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.960 that work somewhere else and then they can like kind of start fresh without the 272 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:08.480 expectations attached to Grand Theft Auto and leave that problem over to Take two and 273 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.960 they'll be happy to do that I think all right, the US video game 274 00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:17.599 industry gets back to growth. This comes from Matt Piscatella at Sirkana. The 275 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.559 decade has been a turbulent one for the US video game industry. It began 276 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.519 with the surge in players engagement and dollars from people wanting to stay connected to 277 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.839 family and friends through the pandemic. This was followed by similar declines across all 278 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:33.519 measures, with a return to spending on experiences, which happened to come along 279 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.720 with new hardware, console supply constraints, and numerous game delays thrown in for 280 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.920 good measure. Today, however, the supply of new generation hardware has improved 281 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.519 and stabilized, Blockbuster games are being released, and player engagement patterns have settled 282 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:49.599 into into a new normal. This has allowed the market to settle after months 283 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:53.640 of wild swings both higher and lower. Below or some of the factors that 284 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:59.359 are influencing the market today and we will be worth following closely moving forward. 285 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.680 Sir Kana expects the US video game market to finish twenty twenty three having delivered 286 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.119 three percent growth, reaching fifty eight point three billion dollars in the United States. 287 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.079 Hardware did much of the heavy lifting and getting the market back to growth. 288 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.400 Over the past twelve months, sales of new hardware products contributed seven billion 289 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.960 dollars of the fifty seven billion in total video games spending in the US market 290 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.880 over the past twelve months. That's nineteen percent higher than the same period a 291 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.880 year ago. On a trended basis, the fifty seven billion dollars in spending 292 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:32.480 over the past twelve months is one percent higher than a year ago and thirteen 293 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:37.799 percent above the pre and early pandemic twelve month period ended in July twenty twenty. 294 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.440 Right, the things are back on track. You know. Here's the 295 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:49.440 thing. So we were in the pandemic and the word then was people staying 296 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.279 at home. They have a bunch of money, and they're spending that money 297 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.359 where they can because they can't spend it anywhere else, and where they can 298 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.640 is video games. They are they're getting video game system and there buying a 299 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:04.519 lot of video games. And then this will evaporate, this sort of surge 300 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:08.839 will evaporate after the pandemic. And and you know, there was always like 301 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:11.559 a push back to that, like even during the time, it was like, 302 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:14.920 well, you know, buying a hardware it's a big investment. Those 303 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:18.240 people are probably going to keep buying games. But the question was like, 304 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:22.880 okay, we will we still see like a continuation in the acquisition of new 305 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.240 hardware, and you know, with the new generation kind of starting up at 306 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:27.119 the same time, it's like, well, this might work out well where 307 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:32.039 a lot of these people are now just considered considering themselves gamers. They're they're 308 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.720 very excited about games. Yeah, they might keep upgrading and drawing other people 309 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:38.640 in. And it seems like that's what's happened in the United States is that 310 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.440 much of the momentum that was gained during the pandemic has remained, not all 311 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.240 of it, but it's it's not like some huge drop off anymore. Like 312 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.279 it dropped a little bit from coming out of like twenty twenty one into twenty 313 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.960 twenty two, and now it's settled into this this state of like, okay, 314 00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:59.960 back to like three percent growth, which is probably sustainable for the industry. 315 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:04.519 Do you in politics makes a lot more sense if you consider every single 316 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:08.200 year there's more and more gamers. Yes, exactly, every day there's another 317 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.440 gamer. That's the biggest issue that we have right now as a society. 318 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:18.559 Do you feel like a difference in like the mainstream popularity of gaming before the 319 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.240 pandemic to now, or is it just like one of those like slow things 320 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.119 that's hard to notice when you're looking at it every day. This is actually 321 00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:27.160 a super good question because while I was in Cologne, I met up with 322 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:30.920 a friend of mine from school that, like I knew in Ireland, and 323 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.079 he wasn't a gamer, not at all, like loved languages, lived in 324 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:40.160 the gail truck for a while, just loved being offline, totally offline. 325 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:45.599 And I met up with him and his boyfriend and over the pandemic they got 326 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.880 way into games and they were talking to me about Games Calm and they've been 327 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.000 living in Clone for years now, and they straight up we're going to Games 328 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:53.720 Calm for the first time this year because they were like, we've gotten so 329 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:56.160 into video games over the last while, we'd like to They only have a 330 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.880 switch. But like they love Bayonesha, they love the Sims. They love 331 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:08.240 stuff like Catamari Damas say, like they love games that aren't you know, 332 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.799 they love big games like the Sims. They love games that break through into 333 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:18.759 the popular culture. But they're also buying and spending money unlike games that we 334 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:23.759 would consider gamer games, like relatively less mainstream games, and they love it 335 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:30.519 where they really like or they recognize the Atlas logo. I had on a 336 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:33.200 bag that I had been given and I was like, oh, I didn't 337 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:36.880 think you'd like know that like Atlas was part of saying, You're like, 338 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:38.279 okay, that's cool, but like, you know, I do think that 339 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.240 there's definitely a bit of people who are getting casually into games are getting more 340 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:49.640 litera in games, and people who are more litera in games are also more 341 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:53.519 influential. People are becoming more literati in games and suddenly games. I think 342 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.880 Roland Farrell did their piece about Elon Musk and they wrote about how you know, 343 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.240 people were basically saying, like, hey, knowing the cultural video games 344 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.240 is now a big part of knowing the culture in general, because it does 345 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.680 affect the culture in general. And I think that that is a very keen 346 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:17.359 observation because it is games were popular for a long time, but they weren't 347 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:22.119 popular in a way that would be small talk at the office. They were 348 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:23.160 popular in the way that like you'd go home and you'd play them and you 349 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:26.359 wouldn't get you wouldn't talk about them at work the next day, whereas now 350 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.680 people will talk about elder ring or around the office cooler, you know. 351 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:34.079 And I do think that there's definitely that turn. But then you also have 352 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.640 the case where in some countries, like an Island, where we no longer 353 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.519 have a dedicated video game retailer, it feels more disperate than it was. 354 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.599 It feels more like all that stuff only happens online now, and so we're 355 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.839 in a weird spot with that stuff. People want to buy more game stuff, 356 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.000 and they want to talk about more game stuff, and more of that 357 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:57.640 is going online. And I think you can as when a lot of conversations 358 00:23:57.680 --> 00:24:02.000 went online during the pandemic. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is 359 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:06.079 very much so up for debate because the type of, you know, conversations 360 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:08.200 we have online are very different to the types of conversations we have in person. 361 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.240 Yeah, And I think for a lot of these people that are more 362 00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:17.960 casual and aren't part of these conversations, they are still like part of that 363 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.200 that overall conversation, but it's happening for them on Instagram, it's happening for 364 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.480 them on TikTok, and they're like getting little tidbits of these games and that 365 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:32.599 and that way, like these like Bolter Skate three and elder Ring couldn't or 366 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:40.119 Zelda couldn't feel more mainstream because they are like fueling these huge content sites that 367 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:44.480 like just keep people engaged in these things over and over and over again. 368 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.039 Ben Affleck was at that Valiant thing and he was talking about like how they 369 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.119 nerved to character I was like, God, damn it. I love you, 370 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.519 Ben Affleck. It's such a tragedy. I love you of the tragedy, 371 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.039 Ben Affleck. I absolutely do. My meme folder on my computer is 372 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:02.000 just tible Ben Affleck. That doesn't only have been Affleck in it, but 373 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.079 it's got a lot of been aff. It represents the olaf that he absolutely 374 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.119 represents the aura. All right. Let's see, despite supply constraints early in 375 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:14.599 the generation, each consoles comparing well to prior hardware releases on a comparative basis, 376 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.240 PlayStation five is now trending five percent above PlayStation four, something that was 377 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.200 not doing like for years because of the supply constraint, and now it's just 378 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.319 shooting past the PS four and it's eighty seven percent ahead of the PlayStation three 379 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:32.039 in time aligned units sold life to date well, Xbox Series trails Xbox One 380 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:37.119 by ten percent, yet leads Xbox three sixty by six percent. While that 381 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.279 decide that that's that feels like it should be flipped. It should be Yeah, 382 00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:42.599 but like the Xbox One sold faster than the Xbox three sixty, that's 383 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:47.519 I know, it's hard for me to rock that. I imagine everyone else 384 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:52.119 it's like it doesn't seem right, but Xbox One did relatively well all things 385 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:56.880 considered for what it was. Okay, So I when I had Fill on 386 00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.839 the couch at Summer Game Fest, and I kind of like talking about like 387 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.240 hardware seeming like get the console hardware, seeming like, oh, you know, 388 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:08.519 it's stuttering, it's sputtering for Xbox and it's like, you know, 389 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.480 yeah, well we're growing, you know, game Pass fastest on PC. 390 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:18.160 And and he's definitely talked multiple times before and since about how it is not 391 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.480 all about selling the hardware for them. Do you think that's a chicken and 392 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.680 egg situation where it's like, well, the hardware is not selling, or 393 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:27.599 it is. It's it's doing faster than the Xbox through sixty. It's fine, 394 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.720 this is probably okay. This is like within the realm of acceptability for 395 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.240 them, But I think they would want to be ahead of the Xbox One. 396 00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.559 I think they like the Xbox Series consoles are definitely better than the Xbox 397 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.640 One consoles. In my opinion, they should be selling better. So do 398 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.000 you think, like if if we were in a world where they were, 399 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.440 you know, a healthy amount ahead of the Xbox One the Xbox Series consoles, 400 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.279 do you think their conversation or their tone would change a little bit and 401 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.640 how they talk about hardware sales. Yeah, I definitely think the if they 402 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:02.839 were selling more consoles, that'd be more open to a half step console because 403 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.839 if they're selling more consoles, they have more people who will be interested in 404 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:10.880 upgrading a console. And if they're selling more consoles, they also will have 405 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:15.839 like more space on retailer store shelves. I walked into a game stop in 406 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:21.759 Clone, and about fifty percent of it was Funco pops, about forty percent 407 00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:26.119 of it was like fucking PS four games, then about five and five percent 408 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:33.759 was Switch and Xbox And like that's very anecdotal, but you see where you 409 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.319 see it visibly when you go into physical locations that they just don't have the 410 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.759 mind space that they want did or the mind share that they once had. 411 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:48.000 And yeah, I think things would be very different for Xbox if PS five 412 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.319 hadn't become a trending item, if it hadn't become a dead stop item. 413 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:57.519 Yeah. Yeah, And I think weirdly enough, the PlayStation five being extremely 414 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:00.240 hard to get was one of the best things happened to them this generation. 415 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:06.799 And because suddenly it meant that a lot of people who just liked collecting shit, 416 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.359 and a lot of people got into collecting shit over the pandemic, I 417 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:15.400 say, pointing out all those fucking assholes on the backshelf. And yeah, 418 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:23.119 but like suddenly you had a item that was worth more than just its cost. 419 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:27.240 It was worth the blagging rights of having ish and that's something that's quite 420 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:32.079 powerful in economics. I mean yes, And like again, especially during the 421 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.440 pandemic and when the things were so hard to come by, like you aren't 422 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.519 just getting the item and you aren't just having the bragging rights so that those 423 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:42.480 are huge, but you're like, this is access to this is defense against 424 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:47.359 fomo because now I can be on part of the conversations when any game is 425 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:48.559 coming out, and like, I don't think a lot of people were even 426 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.559 thinking any one particular game. There probably was one or two games they wanted 427 00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.920 to play. They were certainly happy that the game, happy that they're the 428 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.000 games that they were playing before on PS four, We're running better on PS 429 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.319 five, but mostly just like, hey, we we trust the PlayStation first 430 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.519 party games, and uh, and I don't want to like be in a 431 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:08.920 situation where one of those games comes out and I'm going to miss out, 432 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.680 So I'm gonna do everything I can to get that and Xbox just just has 433 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.799 completely missed out on all of those factors through these first couple of years. 434 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.640 Starfield feels like the first real opportunity for that to change. I would be 435 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.480 I'm very interested to see how much sales go up absolutely through this holiday, 436 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.359 Like what does sales for Xbox look like through this holiday? It's like, 437 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.880 man, be uh, I bet they wish they can get that game run 438 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:34.920 at sixty frames per second on console. I don't think it's gonna affect sales 439 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.440 all that much, but they really wish they had thoughts of for December, 440 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.839 Yes, like really like, I bet they wish they had a second punch 441 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:48.680 to follow this out this year. It turns out this year, I think, 442 00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.400 but I think it's uh, I want to say November, but now 443 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.839 I'm just guessing because I I can't even think. I can't think past this 444 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:59.200 week, so I check. I think they will, but it's like October 445 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:02.160 October, that's right, Fortunay is October okay, in which case then they 446 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.400 do have a little strong one two punch, Yes, and that game will 447 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:10.960 be a graphic show graphics showcase on on the Xbox no matter what. You 448 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.720 know. At the same time, you know, we get hung up on 449 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.519 these things, and I do. I certainly do. You'll never over analyze 450 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.599 anything in the industry, never would. Uh. It's they they do seem 451 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.839 like they are looking past the console. I just like selling these games on 452 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:33.279 on steams of selling obviously game past subscriptions, whether that's on PC or console. 453 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.599 That does seem to be like the thing that they're focused on. I 454 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.480 just don't know how big of an audience they're going to be able to reach 455 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:45.039 for that if they aren't also rapidly growing the console base. I know, 456 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.559 I know, like he says, it's growing fastest on PC, and of 457 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.119 course it is, because everyone who's got an Xbox is going to have it 458 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.759 already, so the people like, you're still able to convince people on PC. 459 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.319 I totally get why that's happening, but it's like, okay, well, 460 00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.599 once you've sort of saturated the people who are likely to do on a 461 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.160 PC, now, are you able to like grow to this next level to 462 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.000 make this all makes sense? And I don't know, Yeah, yeah. 463 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.160 Do you think we've seen a lot of like launchers closed down or like fold 464 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.160 into Steam. Do you think they reach a point whether the line stops going 465 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.640 up on the X on the Microsoft Store and they go, Okay, we're 466 00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:25.440 not going to get anyone else to come start using the Microsoft Store and using 467 00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.240 game Pass through the Microsoft Store. What if we start selling game Pass on 468 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:30.960 Steam? Do you think they get to that point? I think they do 469 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:33.960 probably yeah. I think Valve would be like, yeah, we could do 470 00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:38.000 that, no problem, and I think Microsoft would would be willing to do 471 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:41.839 it at some point. Right now. It's like, you know, they 472 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.640 own Windows, there's no reason they shouldn't be able to reach people with game 473 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:51.319 Pass on PC using Windows machines like directly, it's just so bad. It's 474 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.039 so bad compared to all the other stores, and it's kind of unacceptable that 475 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:57.880 it's so bad because they have so much money and they have the experience and 476 00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:02.519 they know what makes a good store, Like the Xbox like store on their 477 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.200 consoles is very easy to use going through game Pass on your console. It's 478 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.519 quite easy to use going through it on your PC. It's just like, 479 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:14.200 oh, this feels like I'm trying to play a console emulation on a PC. 480 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.960 Like, why doesn't this feel gush? Yeah, there's so on checks. 481 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.960 It's like, why would Valves say no problem? And then they say 482 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.640 no problem to E A Plus And really what they said was what happened there? 483 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.640 And again this is this is my reporting here, So this is a 484 00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.440 EA or I think actually Valve went to EA's like, hey, what can 485 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.839 we do to get APEX Legends on Steam? And EA was like, hey, 486 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.039 what can we do to get E A Plus on Steam? And they're 487 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.519 like, well, let's just do both things and make it that like that'll 488 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.759 be a swap season. We'll be happy and both sides will be happy. 489 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.440 That's kind of all it took to get Valve to like agree to that. 490 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:52.559 I imagine Microsoft and Valve's strong relationship, which is it is pretty strong, 491 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:58.039 Like you know, Microsoft says, hey, Valve will sign of things, 492 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.440 say we'll put Call of Duty on your ship for ten years. Games like, 493 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:01.920 no, we trust you, We're good. We don't. We don't 494 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.880 believe in that sort of thing. We just want to be a cool place 495 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.039 that people want to put their stuff out on. And Gabe Nielsen's Phil spens 496 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:14.559 and knives at Christmas one. I know he does. He does. So 497 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:19.000 I think like that sort of thinking would be like, Okay, well, 498 00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.599 yeah, if someone let's put another subscription service on Steam, We're not going 499 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:23.920 to be afraid of that, but like that's just another thing that's going to 500 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.480 keep our market dynamic and keep us putting pushing us forward. So I think 501 00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.079 I think that would be okay with it. All right, let's move along 502 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.119 here. Microsoft access game Pass free trial ahead of Starfield launch. This is 503 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.119 from Claire Jackson at Kotaku. It's no secret that game Pass is an exceptionally 504 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.519 great deal for Xbox and PC gamers. Ten bucks a month gets you access 505 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.000 to more games than you could ever possibly hope to finish in a month, 506 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.319 and like many online gaming services, Microsoft offered ways of trying to service. 507 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.319 For trying the service at a lower cost, that's no longer the case. 508 00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:00.799 It would seem as the company appears to have pulled trial offers it just ahead 509 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.720 of one of the most highly anticipated game launches in recent years, Starfield. 510 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.480 Microsoft not only offers different tiers or game Pass, but it used to offer 511 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.239 a very simple way to try out the service for one dollar. It would 512 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.639 let you dive into the massive download library for a month if you were a 513 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.000 first time user. But back in early August, when Microsoft hiked the price 514 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.880 of its most expensive game Pass Ultimate service to seventeen dollars, and the company 515 00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:27.159 reduced the free trial to just fourteen days, And now at the end of 516 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:29.719 August, it would seem that there's no way to try out the service for 517 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.440 any reduced amount or any amount of time you got to pay full price. 518 00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.000 This is I think it kind of speaks to the topic we were just discussing, 519 00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.440 where it's like, Okay, are do they feel the pressure to make 520 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.280 moves like this to ensure like when they have a big beat like Starfield, 521 00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.480 it has the maximum amount of impact for something like game Pass, And to 522 00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.400 me, everything they've done sounds like yes they are. It is very important 523 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:58.239 to them that when they have a hit it funnels things in the direction they 524 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.400 want things to go, which is game pass. Is that you read this, 525 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:05.559 Yeah, Jesse in the chat mentions that they tend to take away this 526 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.239 deal before a big game comes out. And I don't think this has become 527 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:14.320 a story for previous big games because they just haven't been as big owner as 528 00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:19.519 anticipated. Definite Boy. If they bring back the free trial a month after 529 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.920 this comes out, or the one dollar trial a month after this comes out, 530 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.599 there's going to be some people who will be quite annoyed about it and 531 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:30.599 be quite vocal about it because everyone's talking about Starfield and suddenly any story that 532 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:37.079 you can hook into that ash will become somewhat relevant. And I definitely like 533 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.039 this was the end game. This was always the endgame was eventually we move 534 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:44.719 prices up and eventually we like actually start making money on this thing. At 535 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.920 some point, your streaming service has to become profitable. And you look at 536 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:53.119 the movies and TV industry and they never figured that out, and now that's 537 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:57.400 causing a lot of problems for a lot of people. They never figured out 538 00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.599 the oh, we're getting a bunch of money brought into us by investors to 539 00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.239 keep us a flowash, but we still aren't making a profish on our own, 540 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.119 and so I think Microsoft has realized, like, Okay, at some 541 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:12.960 point we need to like turn this into a sustainable business, not just a 542 00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:17.280 big business. And I think that makes sense. I don't think this feels 543 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.719 good. I don't think anyone comes away being like, oh, what a 544 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.599 good move Microsoft, I feel great about this, nice job. And yeah, 545 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:29.280 I think that you know, irannically enough, this is probably what like 546 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.320 the CMA and what everyone was weren't warning everyone about. They were like, 547 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.159 hey, this is gonna become a problem, where like it feels like this 548 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.199 is the only place you can get your games on Xbox. It feels like 549 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:44.360 the only way to get your games is two game paths because it feels like 550 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.920 the best value, but also it's tying you in for what upwards of one 551 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.840 hundred and fifty dollars a year now, which is like a lot of money. 552 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:57.239 Some people don't spend that much money on video games every year already, 553 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.719 like some people just by indie games. People just buy Madden and Call of 554 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.679 Duty, and that still wouldn't get you over the one hundred and fifty dollar 555 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:09.159 mark. Like suddenly, game Pass has become more expensive than four Socian people 556 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.000 for very select demographics and then simply buying the games. But yeah, I 557 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.920 think this was bound happen. Yeah. I think that's why it's imperative and 558 00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.280 why you always hear when Microsoft talks about this, like they still give people 559 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.360 all the options. So it's like, you know, they could point too, 560 00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:29.760 and I think I think they're right to. We're like, hey, 561 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.679 the game pass doesn't make sense for you. You should just be buying the 562 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.719 games, and we're not taking that away from you. You could buy the 563 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.639 games and uh, and that's still is where they make the most. The 564 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.880 most of their money for people buying their games, is what they say, 565 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:44.639 Like, that's the bulk of the money for for Xbox and for the gaming 566 00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.719 division at Microsoft is actually people spending seventy dollars or sixty hours on a game 567 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:52.039 whatever. It is. So yeah, and you know, at a certain 568 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:54.920 point, it's like, oh, how entitled are we to a one a 569 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.400 one dollar trial. It's thinking, Okay, I feel that way because it 570 00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:04.360 was on the table for so long or you know, free last couple of 571 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.719 years. Even if it's on and off, it's like most of the time 572 00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.119 it was there now it's now it's gone. It's like, Okay, that's 573 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.400 a little bit frustrating, but you know, the service is fifteen dollars per 574 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.559 month for Ultimate, ten dollars a month for just the console version or the 575 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.119 PC version. I think that much. I think like, as long as 576 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.119 it's still a good service, people will be pretty happy about it. And 577 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.159 right now it's still a good service. I'm not paying for it at the 578 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:29.840 moment just because I'm not using my Xbox. I'm playing other things because there's 579 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.119 so many fucking other games. But yeah, I think they'll come a time 580 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.119 where I'm like, okay, su Feel's out, Forces out, ce Stars 581 00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.400 will be honest, and what else is coming out this year that's coming to 582 00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.159 it? Like, you know, I might want to go Yeah, I 583 00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.199 might want to go back to Exopinal. There'll probably be a time around December 584 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.840 where I'm like, Okay, I have some free time, I'm off college. 585 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.679 I'll just dip in and try a bunch of these games. And I 586 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.199 might not even sign up for the you know, you can't sign up for 587 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.199 the year, but I might just sign up for a month and then cancel 588 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.079 it. Yeah, And that's they do make it easy to can't, so 589 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.400 they are not afraid of that. That's so, that's something. It's but 590 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.800 obviously they're counting on a lot of people not canceling, which of course I 591 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.159 think many people won't, but it is, it is a possibility, and 592 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:13.440 if people want to be aggressive about like dipping in for a month, dipping 593 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.599 back out waiting for the next game, they have that optional available to them 594 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:21.840 all right. Sega and Atlas will stream a special broadcast from Tokyo Game Show. 595 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.760 This is from Chris Scullion at VGC. Sega and Atlas will host a 596 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:29.039 special broadcast from the Tokyo Game Show next month. The stream will be part 597 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:34.679 of a Sega New a monthly broadcast that's held on the official Sega Japan YouTube 598 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.400 channel. According to Sega, the special TGS broadcast will tell players all about 599 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:43.440 the newest titles from Sega and Atlas. The broadcast will take place on September 600 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:47.199 twenty one at seven pm Japan time. While no further details have been given, 601 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:51.480 Sega and that was currently have a number of games in development that are 602 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.719 likely to feature during the stream. Sonic Superstars A set for release on October 603 00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:00.039 seventeenth, so it may appear during the presentation, so two could Yaku to 604 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.360 spin off like a Dragon guide in The Man Who Raised His Name, which 605 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.639 follows a month later on November ninth. Sega also has the likes has Like 606 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.679 a Dragon Infinite Wealth planned for earlier to early twenty twenty four, so fans 607 00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:14.960 may get more information on that. Beyond that, Atlas has a Persona five 608 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.679 Tactica coming, Persona three, Persona three Reload which is also coming, and 609 00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.440 Metaphor Refontasio, which is coming next year. Do you expect I mean, 610 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.000 that's a lot of stuff already, so I'm not expecting too much more beyond 611 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:30.719 those games that we already know about. But I mean, people of course 612 00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.519 are going to start talking about Persona sixth. I don't think. I think 613 00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.039 it feels like it's not time for them. And the big Sega for me, 614 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:45.000 had the best showing at Games Calm as a company. Here they had 615 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:51.880 Persona five Tactica, which I really enjoyed. Persona three Reload looks properly fucking 616 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:55.199 incredible, and I think the main thing is seeing that art style at six 617 00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.639 cfps not being tied to the PS three like Perisona five was. It just 618 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:07.000 looks so good. Damn good in motion like a dragon guide in looks really 619 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.840 fucking fun. I have a preview of that going up hopefully later today. 620 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.159 You should also check out my roommate Scott McCrae over at the Mirror. He 621 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:24.960 interviewed the studio head and I'm pretty sure that's going up soon. And then 622 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:29.679 they also had Total War, which people seemed really in. Oh yeah, 623 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:31.039 what is it? They do Total War? They do Total War? Yes 624 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:36.599 that's right, Yeah, yeah, looked really good. Sonic Superstars, which 625 00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:38.920 people who I know who like Sonic thought was good. And the person I 626 00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:43.280 sent to the Sonic SuperStar's appointment when maybe I don't like Sonic anymore, and 627 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:49.039 I was like yes, uh. And then they also had Hyenas, which 628 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:52.800 I played about an hour and a half of because my demo kept like my 629 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.039 headphones for the demo kept on breaking, which was very funny. And they 630 00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.639 heard that I was doing a preview, so like, no, we have 631 00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.159 to get you into a proper game. So I played a bunch of that 632 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:08.679 and I really like playing Hyenas, but I don't know if there's any place 633 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:14.559 for it. Ish right, like it's the same. I wrote a preview 634 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.440 for it last year and my preview was like, this seems interesting. Will 635 00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:20.719 it be able to compete with Hunt, Showdown and Tarkov? And a year 636 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.360 later that question is way fucking like harder because those things are way more ingrained 637 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:30.760 now and it plays really fun, but like, I'm not sure if it 638 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.159 will be able to break through. And they have a load of ship to 639 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.360 show. They have so much stuff to show, even just from the stuff 640 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.199 that they've already announced, And I think the thing that people haven't quite got 641 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.960 yet is that Persona three reload for them is a new Persona game, and 642 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.400 it is that much of a remake the way that they are doing trailer. 643 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.920 It finally clicked through that last trailer, was like, oh, this is 644 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.400 like a big deal Persona release. Yeah. The three D environments, the 645 00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.599 way you move around the world, the way you interact with it, the 646 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.480 level of detail inish, it does feel it feels like one of the it's 647 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.800 the closest, you know, the way that we've gotten the HD two D 648 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:08.000 versions of like older games. It feels like the closest thing that we have 649 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.119 gotten into that for a PS two era game where they're like, okay, 650 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.760 the work constraints on the PS two. Still what if we just like completely 651 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.840 moved away from them and modernized it for modern consoles. And I was really 652 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.559 really impressed by it, and the combat feels really good, and yeah, 653 00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.800 I think that game will be really interesting. We were talking before the show 654 00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.800 and they also sent us out a press packet with info on the games. 655 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:43.639 Apparently Persona has now passed seventeen million units sold. You have to imagine most 656 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.800 of those are four and five and then the spinoffs, so it seems like 657 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:53.320 that franchise is getting bigger exponentially. And yeah, I think Sega has a 658 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.440 really good showing. And I've always said that, I've said this for a 659 00:43:57.519 --> 00:44:00.599 while now. I think Sega might be one of my favorite publish even though 660 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:07.320 I fucking hate Sonic, which is so stupid. Yeah, oh yeah, 661 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.039 yeah, Jeff, I love the Knuckles. Uh to be fair it, 662 00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.360 Driss Elder like, well yeah, yeah, but yeah, like like a 663 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.079 Dragon is in a really good place where I write about this a bit in 664 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.920 my preview, that's going up laisure. It finally feels like it's starting to 665 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.639 stop being the Accusa franchise, Like they made that break a while ago. 666 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.800 But the way that like a Dragon guide and hooks into the Judgment games, 667 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.440 the way it hooks into Seven, the way it brings in side characters and 668 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.559 a lot of older characters. It feels like it's going beyond the Okay, 669 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.000 this is just about Keau story and the Tojo Klan and the Only Alliance, 670 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.119 and we're going into Hey, this is a bigger world of life in Japan 671 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:54.559 and the underworld of Japan, beyond just crime. And I think that's what 672 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.800 they wanted to be. They don't want it to just be tied to the 673 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.519 Yeah, basically, which someone was saying to me, like, oh, 674 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.280 do they have do they have like a Yakuza cafe in Japan? I was 675 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:08.559 like, I don't think that would go down. Well, I don't think 676 00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.800 you could do that in the current state. Maybe they'll do a like a 677 00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.280 Dragon cafe at some point, but I don't think you could set up a 678 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.480 Yakuza cafe in Japan. Might be difficult to pull it out. Also, 679 00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:22.400 the licensing fees for the accusa, their IP rights, they're such sticklers about 680 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.559 that stuff. You don't want to deal with that anymore. Uh, yeah, 681 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:29.239 say good figuring stuff out they really, I mean they had their PC 682 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:32.119 stuff figured out for a while seeing them kind of get everything else under control 683 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.719 and start making good decisions with Atlas Games. That's weird. It's weird to 684 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:39.079 see them doing this. I remember like a year ago on the show where 685 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:44.119 like Sega is just completely lost. Atlas still don't make good decisions, where 686 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.760 like you can tell it's one of their marketshing things where they're like, we 687 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.920 have an announcement next week some perfume and everyone's like, oh okay, and 688 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:53.239 then you can don't want it Sega because Sega will be like, Okay, 689 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.320 this is what we're going to show you. Yes, and people know what 690 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.679 they're going to get. Yep. Alright, let's see here, Let's keep 691 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:06.440 moving. Two thousand and seven. Running Gun Classic Alien Hominid HD is coming 692 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.639 to most modern platforms. This is from Chris Scullion at VGC. Alien Homedid 693 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.360 HD will be coming to most modern platforms. Developer That Behemoth has announced. 694 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.800 The classic running gun game was originally released on entertainment website new Grounds as a 695 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.039 flash game back in two thousand and two, before being ported to the t 696 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.400 PS two, Xbox and GameCube in two thousand and four and the Game Boy 697 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.679 Advance in two thousand and six. I think it's one of the GameCube games 698 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.079 I actually have back in that closet over there. An HD version was then 699 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:34.719 released on Xbox three sixty and two thousand and seven, and this version is 700 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.239 still the only way to play it on modern systems to date via Xbox backwards 701 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.280 compatibility. In a blog post, the Behemoths stated that it planned to remedy 702 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.840 this by releasing Alien Homedid HD on Xbox Series X and S, Xbox One, 703 00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:50.599 Switch, and Steam. The game will be released later this year alongside 704 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:55.320 Alien Homad Invasion in all new reimagination of Alien HOMEDID with new gameplay and new 705 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.719 mechanics. This has planned for release on Xbox One, Switch and PC. 706 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.639 I loved Alien Hamad. I wondered if, like, does anyone even like 707 00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.960 remember this game anymore? Let's say, did you have you ever played Alien 708 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:12.639 HAMEDD or was it before your time? I knew Alien Haminated through osmosis, 709 00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.440 a bunch of people sort of talking about, like, you know, this 710 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:17.400 weird thing that was on the internet, and then they put it onto video 711 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.719 game consoles, and I was like, that's fucking wild, and I was 712 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:25.599 way into. I didn't play cash Castle Crashes, but I played so much 713 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:30.599 Battle Block when I was younger, and I loved battle Block a bunch. 714 00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.519 I played it on a PC that like could not run games at all, 715 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.480 but it could run battle Block line. And I think the Behemoth in a 716 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.920 weird spot. The last shipped game was Pit People in twenty eighteen, and 717 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.400 I know they said pretty openly that game didn't do the numbers that they wanted 718 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:51.360 it to do. And yeah, it feels like they did their Castle Crashes 719 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.599 HD and now they're doing the HD version of this. I'm assuming they just 720 00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.320 want to get money coming into the company, but I agree. They haven't 721 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.440 announced anything new yet, so I don't know. I love the Behemith, 722 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:05.920 I love what they do, but also they do feel like a company that's 723 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.320 kind of still in that two thousand eight ear. They have never really broken 724 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:14.119 out of their legacy shadow of their first two titles. Yeah, and I 725 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:19.639 mean I think going back and going to ground and saying we're gonna rerelease those 726 00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.400 games and get some money coming in is a perfectly fine strategy. Be are 727 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.880 right love to do something else after this, but hey, if they go 728 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.400 back and they make more Castle Crashers in the Alien Hominid Games I'll be happy. 729 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.480 Also, Christian wants me to stop saying hominid, so I'm just gonna 730 00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:39.239 go Hamidently they are working on a new alien hominid game as well. Aw, 731 00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:42.440 that's so, I think that's what I think. That's what this is, 732 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:45.440 the Alien Hominid Invasion. Uh, it's coming out like around the same 733 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.719 time as this. Basically, so they got Yeah, that's gonna be a 734 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:54.400 reimagination of the entire franchise it sets, so we'll see Star Wars Outlaws won't 735 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.199 be tied down by the fate of the Galaxy. This is from Alex Alex 736 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:01.440 Hopley at Game Reactor. There's one thing that's annoying about Star Wars stories. 737 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.679 It's that some of them can try and make you believe that you'll be saving 738 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.400 the galaxy, only to have little to know real implications for the wider story. 739 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.639 Star Wars The Force Unleashed is a great example of a story that showed 740 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.199 us incredibly cool characters, only for them to be killed off because they didn't 741 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.960 exist in Cannon. However, Star Wars Outlaws is looking to avoid this problem 742 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.599 by removing the game's narrative from any ties to the fate of the wider galaxy. 743 00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:29.039 Speaking to Game informer narrative director Navid Kavari said Kay's dream is to land 744 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.119 a score that will allow her to live life free and find her place in 745 00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:37.159 the galaxy. This is especially true after a heist goes wrong and she unexpectedly 746 00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.199 becomes one of the galaxies most wanted my necessities, she'll step into the underworld 747 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.639 and take on jobs with criminal syndicates with the aim to pull off one of 748 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:49.000 the greatest heights the heists the galaxy has seen. This is where I kind 749 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.480 of want these Star Wars side stories to be at Alexei, where in all 750 00:49:52.559 --> 00:50:00.280 my indoor homies, yes, exactly right and anders one word like it's like 751 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.920 that one's definitely like still it matters greatly to the overall story, but they're 752 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.440 telling it from a completely new angle. They're telling it from a personal angle, 753 00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:12.920 and that's a really refreshing thing to see characters in a level of detail 754 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.559 that you don't usually get to see in sows exactly. And then so if 755 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.119 you are going to be working on something where it's like, hey, which 756 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.559 side of things should we go on? Should we try to matter to the 757 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.760 greater story or should we try to be a personal story. I think most 758 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.719 of the time you're gonna be safer off going with a personal story. It's 759 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.519 just there are some risks of that. I think the problem with one of 760 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.559 the problems with Solo, and not necessarily for me, but I think for 761 00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.760 the wider audience was it didn't feel like it mattered to the ongoing Star Wars 762 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.079 narrative that people felt invested in, so they're like, I don't even need 763 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.280 to go see that. But at the end, like if the game is 764 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.719 good here, I think people won't care. They're like, no, this 765 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.199 this makes perfect sense. There's all this whole universe to explore. It does 766 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.079 remind me of like the Han Solo books, the old Han Han Solo books, 767 00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.519 where it's like before he was on solo in the movies, here's what 768 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.119 he was doing, and it was like, we're still like high stakes for 769 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.440 all these things. He pulled off, some heists, he had like a 770 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.320 lot of adventures, but it's like it wasn't like he was part of the 771 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:12.159 rebellion before you actually joined the rebellion. So it's like high stakes in like 772 00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.199 a personal sense too. You can have different types of the high stakes. 773 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.880 Doesn't need to be will a planet explode? The high stakes? Will can 774 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.360 literally just be, Hey, will I get to live like a nice quiet 775 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.880 life in this really shitty galaxy? Yep. And it's like and I think 776 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:30.199 it's uh yeah, I think it's like a non games says, isn't that 777 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:32.840 just? And or it's like no again, and or is directly related to 778 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:38.599 like the people that are affecting events in and or are affecting events in Clone 779 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.559 Wars and stuff like that, and all those politics interact with one another. 780 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.280 And it sounds what they're saying here with Kay is that she is going to 781 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:47.559 be doing her own thing and you're probably not going to be running into the 782 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.480 rebellion and stuff like that. So yeah, I again, I think that's 783 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.239 probably the right answer. I'm looking forward to this game. It's it seems 784 00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.599 like, uh, it seems like the big Star Wars game that people have 785 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.119 been looking for since like thirteen thirteen, who first got announced, they never 786 00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:12.000 came out. The large shadow of that game cart is that the unbelievably incomprehensible, 787 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.159 incomprehensively large shadow that that game cast doesn't make any sense, but yet 788 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.360 we always reference it. So here we go. Maybe we'll be done reference. 789 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:23.480 After we get Star Wars Outlaws Classic First Verston shooter, The Darkness may 790 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.800 be remastered. According to studio ceo. This comes from Matt Schoemer at a 791 00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.960 dual Shockers The Darkness, a horror themed first first and shooter that was first 792 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:36.800 released sixteen years ago, maybe getting a revival if a tweat from the CEO 793 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.199 of One Development Studio is to be believed. Stephen Kick is CEO of Nightdive 794 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.199 Studios, a US based developer best known for reviving games that have fallen under 795 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.559 the category of abandonedware, a general term that tends to refer to software that 796 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.239 is not considered viable and has not been actively in use by its creators or 797 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:57.559 an intellectual property owners. Late on Saturday, Kick responded to a post on 798 00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.639 Twitter from one gamer who expressed a to play The Darkness without booting up his 799 00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:05.280 PlayStation three. It was hopeful someone would remaster the game and port it to 800 00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:09.119 PC. It's on the list, kicks response reads. Nightdive has not made 801 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.960 any official announcements on its website regarding a remaster of the Darkness. However, 802 00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.639 the last set of updates on its new page is filled with recent announcements about 803 00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:21.159 other games and studios working, and to remaster to Rock three, Shadow of 804 00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:24.719 Oblivion, Star Wars Dark Forces, which made their respective debuts in twenty nineteen 805 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:29.920 ninety five. This feels like the kind of like there are enough of these 806 00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:31.519 kinds of games out there, the Nightdive eventually gets to all of them. 807 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.639 Darkness like the most modern thing. Yes, this does feel like the most 808 00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:37.920 modern one, but also not so modern that this is weird. I think 809 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.679 they would still end up doing this, right. Yeah. The extent of 810 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.360 my knowledge with the Darkness is an old Danny o'doy escape from Mount Stupid Game 811 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:52.960 Spot episode where he drilled the name Jackiesticado into my head as the guy who 812 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:58.320 joined the loading screen talks about kicking a fucking dog and that's all I remember 813 00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.079 about it and all so you can watch like black and white movies in it 814 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:06.440 that they weren't license, But it seems like a fucking cool game and everyone 815 00:54:06.519 --> 00:54:08.039 loves it, so why not let's go back to it. You could like 816 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:12.400 go on a date, right and watch the black and white movie. Yeah, 817 00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:15.039 I think you could just stay in your apartment. I'm the opening. 818 00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:17.519 I'm like watch an entire movie if you wanted, right. I think they 819 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.760 had a couple of movies in there. I always want to like stream, 820 00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:25.519 Oh yeah, I want to like stream. Yeah yeah, I think you 821 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:28.840 could watch a whole movie, yes, you, because I always want to 822 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.159 stream games. They have that in there and just like just sit there and 823 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.000 like watch the movie together with everybody because it's like, hey, it's in 824 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.599 the game. We could stream this. Well oh yeah, I won't bring 825 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.559 that game up never mind. Yeah. Uh, he's no longer part of 826 00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:46.039 that studio. I think he's probably still I would say, doesn't uh. 827 00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.599 Sparks of Hope director Tases returned to Glory for Rayman and secret DLC message just 828 00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:55.559 comes from Chris Pinwell at Destructoit. Rayman fans are over the moon after the 829 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.880 announcement that the limbless hero will be featured in the next Mario plus rab Sparks 830 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:02.960 of Hope DLC. However, there might be more to look forward to the 831 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.960 game's director, David Solani Soliani teased a return to Glory for their French platform 832 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:12.280 and mascot Wednesday. He also confirmed there will be a secret message if you 833 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.760 finish the DLC with a one completion rate. There's the prospects of the first 834 00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:21.280 Rayman game since twenty thirteen might come to fruition. According to fan community leader 835 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:25.360 It's Sail Drake from Rayman Together Sparks of Hope. Director David Soliani sent a 836 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.000 message to the characters fan base just before the launch of the Phantom Show DLC. 837 00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:35.119 I hope that all the community and all Rayman players support us as much 838 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.000 as possible, because I'm on a mission. My mission is to be able 839 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:43.039 to bring Raymand back to the glory he deserves. Do you think, Lexie, 840 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.320 that this is him hinting that there is something already happening, or do 841 00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:51.280 you think this is him trying to drum up support so that this DLC does 842 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.199 well enough that he can justify a pitch to make something Rayman going forward. 843 00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.840 Honestly, I just hope they keep on letting David Soliani make his games, 844 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.599 because there's nothing else like it at Ubisoft by quite a large margin, and 845 00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:07.760 it seems like it doesn't cost them that much money to make those games, 846 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.719 and maybe if they like actually marketed them in a reasonable way and then just 847 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.400 kind of like put them out in the busiest month of the year for them 848 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.920 to get like destroyed by everything else. I think David Soliani is the type 849 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.079 of guy who would love to work on a Raymond game, mainly because we 850 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.199 allow him to work with some more composers that he likes, which I think 851 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:31.159 is like the favorite thing in the world. But yeah, I'm sure he 852 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:37.519 would. He seems like someone who has good ideas for classic franchises because he 853 00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:40.679 looked at Mario and he went, well, what can we do with this? 854 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:44.480 And he and his team, I should say, they looked at Marion 855 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:45.840 and they said, well, what's something holy new that we can do with 856 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:54.360 this? And I think bringing Raymond Raymond. Yeah, but bringing Raymond back 857 00:56:54.480 --> 00:57:00.159 into the spotlight through Mario was a really good idea if probly hasn't worked as 858 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:06.079 well because that game didn't sell as well as they wanted. But I still 859 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.280 think that, like you know, I would like to see more weird, 860 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.960 old platformers that haven't gotten to see the light of day in a while to 861 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.199 get some love again from talented developers. So why not, Yep? I 862 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:20.559 would. I would really appreciate this. I could go for a new Rayman. 863 00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:22.159 I think if they're gonna, if they're gonna make a Rayman, I 864 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.599 hope they make it a three D platformer, but I wouldn't. I would 865 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:30.559 not say no to under one of those U b arts sort of two D 866 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:34.000 side scrolling once they did a couple of years ago. I'm probably like a 867 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.480 decade ago now. I think it is a decade ago. Now. Those 868 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:39.760 are very good as well. The last one came out on the WU first, 869 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.960 so it's been quite a while. Jesus Christ, all right, I 870 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:46.119 have the poll from last week. Let's get to it right now. What 871 00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:51.360 do you think Sony is doing with Days Gone? If seven percent say it's 872 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.159 making a game and a movie, five percent say it's making a game but 873 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:59.599 no movie, nineteen percent say it's making a movie but no game, and 874 00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:05.239 say nine percent nice say it's not making anything related to Day's Gone. That's 875 00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.039 where I put my vote as well. I think i'd be I would be 876 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:12.119 excited at this point to be wrong about that, just for them to come 877 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.000 and be like, no, Day's Gone is our next big thing. We're 878 00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:17.039 pushing that the way we've been pushing Horizon. I would love to see that. 879 00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:22.719 I don't think they are, though, but we'll see Day's Gone feels 880 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:28.239 like the yellow Stone of video games. Yes, like a game for dad's 881 00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:32.679 and people who like the idea of prestige stuff but don't like good prestige. 882 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.760 Yes, give me my trashy prestige, which Yellowstone definitely is. But I 883 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.840 tried watching Yellowstone and I'm like, I'm a dad, this should be for 884 00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:45.400 me. I love I love Kevin Costner. Are you kidding me? Kevin 885 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:49.880 cost is basically my president. I love that he was Superman's dad. Yeah, 886 00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.360 okay, And I was like, I'll watch that movie because he's Superman's 887 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.880 dad. That's how much of a Kevin Coster fan I am. I know 888 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:59.760 it doesn't make sense. I never said it would, but I'll try. 889 00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:04.039 Why that show and it's just so god damn dumb. It's so dumb. 890 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.960 Every it's nothing matters, and everything happens, everything happens in that in that 891 00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:12.400 show, and none of it matters. I did remember the moment. I'm 892 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:14.760 sure I've told the story before, the moment I stopped watching. It's just 893 00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.199 like everything's going wrong with these people. And then the lady who's like a 894 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.519 teacher like, goes to a job and some one of the students punches her 895 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:22.840 and she gets knocked into a coma and They're like why, Like what's like 896 00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.719 what precipitated that? Like what was going on in their lives that put her 897 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.119 in such a danger? No, No, it was just a random act 898 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.559 of random event. And there's like five of those every episode. It's in 899 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:37.320 stuff like honestly, the guy who created Sicaio and woche Hella high Water, 900 00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.079 those are like two of my favorite movies. And he realized like, oh, 901 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:42.639 I can just like keep doing the same thing over and over and over 902 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.320 and over and no one will call me out on it, like make uns 903 00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:51.360 of money. Yes, yes, yeah, you made a fantastic movie with 904 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.599 Ben Foster and Chris Pine being extremely hamish. I'm you can do whatever you 905 00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.440 want now if you want to, if you want to a show where a 906 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.199 lot happens and it's like it's just cool. Twenty four? Can I recommend 907 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:06.800 twenty four? Snap that neck? It was good stuff, all right? 908 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:12.079 I got what's that? Twenty four? Check? I finished season two and 909 01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.400 I've not started season three yet because I've been working on video games instead. 910 01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:20.880 But again that that second season ended with a huge killing spree from our boy 911 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:23.960 Jack Bauer, and the last time I enacted it, I pulled my headphones 912 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.119 out and completely crashed discords. I'll be careful, but just him like grab 913 01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.119 that neck and run up the wall and snapping and in addition to like shooting 914 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.360 a bunch of people, which is great. Uh, it was. It 915 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:37.559 was very exciting, very well done. Yeah, and I didn't play a 916 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.519 little bit of twenty four the game, which I think I don't know if 917 01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:42.239 it's up on the site yet. Did we get that out yet? We'll 918 01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:45.000 get that up sim okay, was so cool. I wish it was real. 919 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.000 In my heart. Twenty four has always been real, Alexi. Before 920 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.199 we get to these to this pole question, why don't you tell people where 921 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.559 they could find you what you got going on? Yeah, so I've loads 922 01:00:54.559 --> 01:01:00.719 of stuff going on. I'll have like five pieces going up on Track News, 923 01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:09.360 Son five, Son of three, Warhammer or Space Moving two and Specific 924 01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:14.639 Drive and something else I'm forgetting right now. I have a like a dragon 925 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:17.519 guide in going up on push Square, and you will be able to find 926 01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.039 my work in upcoming play magazines. And I'm still learning start Menu, which 927 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:27.840 is a great place to get started in the games industry. Contact us at 928 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.599 hello at start menu dot co dot UK. I'm a bit behind on emails 929 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.760 I know some people who are watching the show did reach out, and I 930 01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.800 will get back to people. And also the last thing I wanted to say, 931 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.599 I needed to make sure that Mike knew that my friendship with you and 932 01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.599 him is over. And Tam and Lucy my best friends now. Yeah, 933 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:51.920 and we respect that. And it's purely because they managed to survive like three 934 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:58.000 hundred thousand people in Clone, and ye haven't you haven't proven yourselves worth. 935 01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.280 I understand that. Yeah, once you do prove yourself worthy, like I 936 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:06.039 might, I might talk to you again. But until then, like I'm 937 01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:09.039 I don't don't think I would survive. Pretty sure, I would melt three 938 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.639 hundred thousand people. I'd just look at that and I would just I would 939 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.079 turn into a puddle, and that would be the end of Jeffrey. All 940 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.639 Right, we got a new new poll question going up. Will you try 941 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.760 Saints Row and PlayStation Plus? A story we didn't get to but it's coming 942 01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:24.480 to PlayStation Plus. Uh And and I'm like, oh, is this going 943 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:28.280 to be a chance for people to have maybe reassess this game. Yes, 944 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:30.280 no, I've already played it. Are your options? We'll discuss that on 945 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:35.679 the show tomorrow. Uh. Well, I'm sorry. On Wednesday or then 946 01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:38.679 though on giant bomb dot com we got the Giant BombCast tomorrow. We will 947 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:44.840 have some some quick looks going up this week. We have the Starfield coverage 948 01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.079 starting on August thirty, Fie when the thirty first, when that embargo goes 949 01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:51.480 up, a whole bunch of other things that are happening. Then we're traveling 950 01:02:51.559 --> 01:02:54.519 the packs. It's a busy, busy week, so uh give you give 951 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.239 your voice some slack, so I try to make it all organized, to 952 01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.880 make it all makes sense in my brain. All right, Lexie, thank 953 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.199 you so much for spending today talking with me about video games. You know 954 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.000 I appreciate it. We're gonna talk about video games. I just wanted to 955 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:12.199 talk more about like yellow sound. Thank you for talking with me about yellow 956 01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.639 stuck. I here's how busy I am. I am. On Sunday, 957 01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:20.440 I started the Animal's Book and a book on tape, and I only listened 958 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:22.920 to it while doing like stuff around the house, and by like mid day 959 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.679 i'd finished it. Like it's like it's like three and a half hours, 960 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.800 but it's like that was just three and a half hours of just doing shit 961 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.840 before I could even get to playing games. So I've listened to the Animorph's 962 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:36.639 book, A book one jan Whenever you're ready, I'm ready. You just 963 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:37.800 look out. I got, I got. I don't know if I have 964 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:42.599 plenty of say, but I got something to say. So much time for 965 01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.480 another podcast? T exactly, we should just tack on like a five minute 966 01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.199 podcast the end of something else, and just like that could be the Animals 967 01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:52.280 podcast. Jannimorphs, all right, thanks for watching, everybody. You're the 968 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:53.719 best audience in gaming. We're gonna get out here. Until next time, 969 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.519 have a good one, take care of yourself, and goodbye.