The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's production Welcome back, fact Hunters and truth
Seekers to a very special edition of The Fact Hunter. Tonight, we welcome
a very special guest who has been one of the most prolific truth seekers of
our time. You can find his work on his website, Corbett Report dot
com, and as always, all his links will be in the show description.
Ladies and gentlemen, please help me welcome James Corbett. James, how
are you doing today? I'm doing as well as can be expected given the
world's circumstances, but thank you for having me on. Yeah. We generally
start our podcast with as we navigate our way through bizarro world, because that's
really how it seems. Again, as we spoke before the podcast, we
don't ever want to assume that everyone is a longtime listeners, so please if
you could take a minute or two and tell us a little bit about yourself,
sir sure. My name is James Corbett. I am a Canadian born
and raised spent a year in Dublin, Ireland studying angle Irish literature, and
then decided to head off to Japan. Why not just see another part of
the world. It was only meant to be a one year thing, just
teach some English and see some and do a bit of traveling, but it
ended up becoming well, it's twenty years in counting at this point, and
I've got a family, a home and all of that, so you never
know how life's going to work. But in the intervening years, I stumbled
down the rabbit hole, the proverbial rabbit hole as it were, encountering information
online about nine to eleven and fall Flag, terrorism and the banking system and
monetary system, and global geopolitics and history and science and all of this sort
of stuff. And it was at a point in late two thousand and six,
early two thousand and seven when I was being overwhelmed encountering all of this
type of information essentially for the first time, and deciding, well, this
is too important for me just to bottle it all up. What am I
going to do with it? Well, it's the Internet age. Why not
start one of these new fangled podcasts. And I felt in that time two
thousand and seven when I started the podcast, I felt I was getting into
the game a bit late. But actually, as it turns out, maybe
I was earlier, at least on time and as a result of being on
the I think the leading edge of the sort of online independent media phenomenon that's
happened in the past couple of decades. I have had the good fortune of
building up a massive audience, which I also had the good fortune of losing
when the YouTube nuked my my channels for daring to tell the truth. And
I think that was an important waymarker in the road of where we are in
this information war that we're engaged in right now. So as I always say
to people, please go to Corbortreport dot com. That is the one stop
shop, as it were, for all of my information. But it's a
shop in name only because all of the information that I do. Everything I
do is one hundred percent free, and I ask for people to spread it,
use it as a resource. I hope it's valuable for people. Yeah,
and you know a lot of people like myself and others, were dealt
a blow like that. You gain an audience, and YouTube was originally built
on content creators, and it was kind of a slap in the face to
get deplatformed when you know, here in America we're supposed to have the First
Amendment freedom of speech and everything else, and then then the next thing,
you know, all within six months you're kicked off YouTube, PayPal, and
you really start to see an nefarious agenda. And that's when you really realized,
at least for myself, James, was the things that we talk about
aren't just rabbit holes and conducting dots and having cool you know, doing cool
things like that. It's really there's a dark side to what we do and
a real side. Yeah, And that reality does hit me from time to
time. I genuinely wish, I truly wish that I was totally out to
lunch. I wish that I was as crazy as some of my detractors would
no doubt like to label me for being such a conspiracy theorist. But unfortunately,
time and time again, things play out in ways that are well in
line with what I've been saying and many other people. To be fair,
I don't think I'm any sort of profit or anything. I just think I
just am able to read white papers and other declaring declarations and statements and executive
orders and emergency legislation, etc. And understand, oh the there's a general
trend to world events. Things aren't necessarily just happening by random happenstance. A
case in point that might be highly relevant to our discussion was back in two
thousand and nine when I had an entire podcast episode about medical martial law,
trying to raise the alarm about all of the emergency legislation that was being put
into place in the wake of the two thousand and one anthrax attacks. Specifically
was what was generally being cited, but in the United States and around the
world, this entire infrastructure for a global public health system that would start flexing
its muscles, declaring emergencies and mandating vaccines and other quarantines and other such things.
And so that was one of those things that I saw coming from miles
away. So the only thing that surprised me when it actually started to come
to fruition in twenty twenty was, Oh, they're really pulling the trigger on
this right now. But it wasn't surprising in any sense for people who had
been paying attention to it. Yeah, and it's interesting that you mentioned the
anthrax issue with that was Dashel, right, And of course Podesta was involved
with that, and now he's like on top of the food chain for the
Center for American Progress. This is one of these big public think tanks that
falls in the line with the CFR and everything else. So i've in retrospect
he played the game and was rewarded handsomely, like so many other people.
Going back to George Morrison, his son gets rewarded. And this oligarchy that
we have in the United States, it's not a democratic republic. It's if
you play along, you get rewarded, and everyone else is cast aside.
All these things are all tied together. I want to get to some of
these questions I've had for you, and again, thank you. You've been
very generous to come on here. I know you're a very busy guy.
Before we get into Bill Gates, the first question I want to ask you
is what was the first rabbit hole that really got your attention, that made
you think, maybe you know this world is not as it is presented.
Well. I have cited various things that I think were preparatory to my work
at the corpor Report, things that if from my childhood onwards, that I
understood. For example, I remember watching back in the nineteen eighties some of
the JFK questions and conspiracy programming, etc. That was on PBS, and
other things raising questions about Lee Harvey Oswald, and I I always was under
the impression, yeah, I don't think it was a Loane nut. So
I think I always had some sense of questioning authority. I could even go
back to I remember a fourth grade science class that I was in where the
teacher was asking the class okay, so it was something along the lines of,
oh, do you think this oardjifect is going to sink? Or is
it going to float? Or or something like that, And so they did
a vote, you know, who thinks it's going to think? Whose it
thinks it's going to float? And I ended up being on the right side
of that vote. I voted, oh, it'll float or something like that,
whatever it was, and I ended up being right. Then, after
I've found out, oh I'm right, I decided, you know, but
actually, shouldn't it be like this because of something else? And so I
actually started arguing with the teacher, well, why isn't it like this?
And I think that was one of the early signs that maybe I'm just not
satisfied with just being told Okay, here's the answer. No, I want
to know why. I want to get underneath the hood of it as it
were other things that were preparatory to this. For example, I remember sitting
here in Japan, this must have been when I first got here, maybe
two thousand and four, watching the Gandhi biopic, and I remember that scene
where the Gandhi was leading the protests the Indians who were being forced to carry
around their papers in South Africa at that time by the British colonial powers,
and they were protesting this, We're not going to carry these papers around,
and they were literally burning them and getting beaten to a pulp and arrested for
as such late brazen active treason. And I remember sitting there here in Japan
with ID card in my pocket that I am forced to carry around as a
foreign resident of Japan, and didn't even didn't even think about it when I
was getting out. Of course, I got to carry this idea, and
it's got to be presentable to a police officer at any time if they so
choose to ask for it. And it had never really just growing up,
I'm a twenty first century kind of guy who cares about this kind of thing.
That was something that struck me in the face, like, oh no,
this is something that people really, really, really felt strongly about in
the past, and we've been conditioned to totally accept as normal now. Hm.
I wonder what that means. I remember back in two thousand and six
heading back to Canada for a friend's wedding. I was going to be the
best man, and I remember making a kind of offhand joke with the customs
guy as I'm going through customs like, oh, what are you here for?
I'm like, Oh, to visit my friend and to watch the Flames
win the Stanley Cup, and he just gives me a kind of like look
and write something on my form. Next thing I know, I'm being hauled
off for specialist screening, which involved taking everything out and asking about each individual
item. Oh, this book you're reading? Is it? Is it a
good book? What do you think about this book? Or thinking like what
is this? What is happening? Here's your journal? Can I take a
photocopy of it? I don't know, can you? I'd prefer if you
didn't. What are my rights here? I had no idea what was happening,
and that was a penny drop kind of moment for me. But really
the first issue that started me specifically into the corporate report was nine to eleven
Truth and that was because it was as I say, I'd been quite I'd
often been skeptical of authority, and le r. V. Oswald wasn't a
low nut. But nine to eleven truth was a bridge too far for me.
For many years. Oh that you know, people will make a conspiracy
theory out of everything, but I'd never really looked into it. And suddenly
I was encountering this information online that was Some of it was stupid, some
of it was unprovable, some of it was interesting. Some of it I
could even go and look up for myself. I had no idea about things
like Operation Northwoods and other such government documents that I could then go and actually
read for myself the actual government document. Wow, that's crazy. I never
knew about that. And that was the snowball that got me rolling down the
hill into the rabbit hole, as it were. Yeah, I think nine
to eleven is the big one for most people in the truth community, because
while we all may disagree on the different layers, was it really a plane
or was it CGI was it mini nukes? Like James Fetzer says, on
and on and on, we all agree that the official narrative is complete hogwash
and that goes all the way back to what you said a minute ago was
when you were younger as truthers. As long as we can get people to
question the official narrative, we've done our job. I've said many times on
my podcast, I don't want people to believe what I say and this is
the official word. I just want to give you enough information to prove to
you that most of the things that you were told by the mainstream media the
news organizations are at best a little bit of truth smeared with lies and propaganda.
So if we can just get people to question the narrative before they make
a decision, let's just say, I don't know there's a guy in a
white lab coat who tells you you should get a vaccine. If you question
it and look into it before you get it, instead of just believing that
guy who has a white lab coat and a name tag and stands behind a
podium, then maybe we have a better chance humanity has a better chance of
survival. What are your thoughts on that. I agree very much with what
you're saying, but I think it's so important to understand the context of this
and to get that right, because certainly, yes, we need to be
skeptical of authority and not just simply take some authority figures word for it,
because that is how we are led into traps and led down blind alleys and
lead into slaughter pins, etc. But on the other hand, we also
have to apply critical thinking to all of the information we're receiving, whether that
is from mainstream authoritative sources or from independent sources. And unfortunately, over the
years, yes, I have found, of course a lot of people now
are questioning reality on all sorts of different levels. Okay, that's as I
say, that's to the good, but I think there is in the mainstreaming
of conspiracy theorizing that we've seen over certainly the past decade or so. Unfortunately,
that brings a lot of people who were the type who simply believed and
listened to authority figures and listened to the MSM and watched whatever it was Fox
or CNN or whatever flavor of information they liked and simply believed it. Are
now the people who are watching whatever flavor of independent media news they like and
simply believing it, again without using their own critical thinking critical faculties so to
the extent that we promote and a greater understanding of the types of duplicity and
techniques that are used to put people down blind alleys and false turns, etc.
That's good. But if people if we do not show people how to
find and soar and verify and triangulate information and how to come to a better
understanding of the world, than perhaps we end up failing in a different way.
That's a great point as well, and I appreciate you mentioning that since
you, since were already on the topic of nine to eleven, let's run
with that. I want to throw a few things at you and tell me
what your thoughts are. And since we already mentioned it, what are your
thoughts as far as were they planes where they see GI do you think was
an operation Northwoods where maybe the planes were swapped because they were in the air
for quite a long period of time. How do you think that went down?
Yeah? Well, I will of course preface this by saying this is
my speculation, and we have evidence in the form of the TV footage,
et cetera that we've all seen. But as people know, well how much
can we trust what we've seen on TV? Et cetera, et cetera.
So again, it is speculation, and specifically my point on nine to eleven
truth. For the past fifteen or so years that I've been talking about this
has always been I think the pyrotechnics of that day are themselves a form of
distraction, or at the very least are the honeypot that get everyone fighting with
each other about their specific ideas about this course. My inclination is towards,
as you mentioned, there some sort of Northwoods type plin and for people who
don't know about that, I would highly encourage you to actually read the Operation
Northwoods documents where they talk about such stratagems at that time in the nineteen sixties
for getting the US embroiled in a war with Cuba, such things as taking
planes commercial jumbo jets, swapping them out for military drones that would then be
flown and blown up after broadcasting some may Day message were under attack by those
bastardly Cubans, and using that as a predense war, taking entire teams of
fictitious people, essentially CIA agents of various sorts, who would then be swapped
out on passenger lists, etc. And this stuff that the Joint chiefs of
Staff with signing up off on forty years before nine to eleven ever took place,
So you can imagine those types of plans well certainly exist, and that
certainly I'm inclined towards that I talked to. I don't want to get his
name wrong. I believe it is Paul Schreer, but please look this up
on corporabord dot com. I talked to him several years ago about his research
into the radar gaps and specifically all of the alleged hijackings took place specifically in
radar gaps where we can't specifically know exactly what was happening with those planes,
and it very easily could have been a swapout at specifically those moments. So
things like that make me inclined to believe that. But again it is informed
speculation, of course, but it is speculation. There are things that we
can document, however, that are probably much more important than that, and
that's why instead of the forensics, I have spent many, many years trying
to draw a nine to eleven truth attention to other issues such as nine to
eleven trillions, follow the money, talking about the incredibly important money trail surrounding
the events of nine to eleven. I've done nine to eleven war games,
talking about the many, many, many, many exercises, drills, simulations,
etc. That were happening on or around the day of nine to eleven
that in some cases eerily almost exactly identical to what was supposedly taking place in
real life. Is this real world or exercise? I've talked about nine to
eleven suspects saying, Okay, this is a criminal event that happened, so
let's examine it like a criminal investigator. Who would we bring if there was
a trial, who would we put on the stand to find out what they
know and what we can find out from that. So I talked about that
and some of the figures involved, and I've just a year or two ago,
I did a five and a half hour documentary on false Flags, The
Secret History of al Qaeda, talking about the founding and development and fostering of
what is being tru al Qaeda? What is it and where did this organization
come from? What has it been responsible for? How do we know that?
What is its relationship to intelligence agencies? It's one of the it's well,
it's the longest documentary I've ever done, and probably the most thorough investigation
I've ever done, and I've noticed most people don't even know it exists.
So I hope people who are interested in that would check it out again,
like all my work available for free, that documentary is at quarter report dot
com. Slash al Qaeda. Yeah, and there's a lot of things when
you get into this and you start peeling back the onions. There's also a
lot of coincidences with the security agencies with I think was Marvin Bush was running.
I think it was called Secure Coom that there was just too many coincidence
for people to put it aside, and as far as what you were saying,
as it should have been treated as a criminal case. And of course
the first thing they did was they took the evidence, swept it up and
got rid of it as fast as they could. They sent it to China
for quite out loud. And then of course all the gold, the money,
the shorts on the plane industry the day before, there's so much,
not just the planes. The shorts on the airline stocks are the most known,
but as I go into in nine eleven trillions, it wasn't just shorts.
It was also long the other side of the trade on military contractors.
It was also shorts, for example, on some of the specific companies that
were headquartered in the World Trade Center. There was a lot more to that
story, and that was an interesting story because it was one that was initially
being broken on mainstream television news as the investigation was unfolding, and hey,
we have evidence of informed trading. There were definitely people who knew about these
attacks beforehand, and then it just went silent and the SEC ended up destroying
all their records about that investigation. Of course, and if I remember correctly,
that was right around the same time when the Enron debacle was going on,
and Kenneth Lay was one of the biggest contributors to Bush's presidential run,
so obviously he was close with them. I think a lot of the documentation
to that case got destroyed that day, yes, sir, thank you.
And then, of course he died mysteriously in Colorado. Whether or not you
really died or not is hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein drinking martiniz I don't know.
But there's so many sub layers to nine to eleven, and I guess
that leads to my next question is obviously they had several endgames the financial aspect
to it, but also this slow, as we say, they boiled the
frog. When you and I have long range plans, we're looking at January
or February. But the controllers of the matrix their generational planners, right.
I believe when they started building the World Trade Centers they knew in thirty three
years that were coming down. That's my personal opinion. So the question is
what are your thoughts of what were their most important outcomes to nine to eleven.
Obviously money is important, but they have the Federal Reserve, they can
print, manipulate a lot of that. Most of it was powers, And
what do you think the most important outcomes to the controllers carry about? Well,
it's an important thing to think about because, as I stress, whether
when it comes to nine to eleven or COVID or any of these kind of
big life changing events, there is a monetary aspect to them, and that
is one of the I think easiest documentable ways of understanding plots like these and
how they function, because of course, money is the great equalizer in terms
of how do you get people involved in a plot, how do you get
people interested in furthering things that they would otherwise maybe not be interested in?
Money certainly is that common denominator amongst many of the people, and so it's
easy to document and trace and understand in that way. But I think it
isn't fundamentally about the money, because as you say, I think money is
essential just the way to keep points in the game, essentially. But the
game is for power and control, and in that respect, nine to eleven
was beneficial to all sorts of different power centers. In fact, almost every
sort of power center or authority could find a way to benefit from the events
of nine to eleven. This is why every single world leader stood beside George
Bush on that day. We are with you, we are you know what,
We're fighting our war on terror as well. So Russia of course had
those damn Chechens, and China has those damn weaker Muslims, et cetera,
et cetera. Every single world leader benefits from this giant shot on the arm
of the war on Terror. Now we have a convenient narrative for framing our
particular wars of aggression in various places. And of course it isn't just about
the war side of it, although there certainly is that in terms of the
outward aggression, but perhaps more importantly the inward aggression and nine to eleven Truthers
we're pointing out for many years, and I think people are finally starting to
understand all of this machinery and mechanism for the Department of Homeland Security and this
the police state and the terror industrial complex that even Colin Powell was talking about
several years ago. That wasn't meant for this scary bearded Muslim boogeyman out there.
It's meant for you. It is the the bars in the prison that's
meant to contain you once it finally, finally people are starting to understand that.
But maybe many years too late. That was one of the few things
that I realized during my awakening period. That is, and sometimes I say,
you've got to credit them for this matrix they've created. But when they
name an enemy that isn't specific. Like if I say, you know,
we're looking for William Smith, we're going to war against William Smith, and
when you capture William Smith, the war's over. But when you say we're
going to war on terror, that there's no it has an indefinite lifetime.
If you're declaring war on COVID, you have it a definite life to it,
and you have unlimited resource when you declare war on these things. So
you know when you listen when there's a significant event in war in the world,
listen, I mean, words have so much meaning. It's really important
that you listen to everything they say because when they declare a vague enemy like
that, you better understand that you're in for a long haul. And also,
yeah, listen to them when they speak, because I think sometimes they
tell the truth. Maybe inadvertently. The terrorists do hate you for your freedom.
Oh yeah, but who are the terrorists? The question? Absolutely great
stuff. Moving on, let's talk a little bit about Bill Gates. You
did. I think that was one of the first videos that really got my
attention from you. I think it was a two or a four part series,
and you took it back to his father and his alignment with Margaret Sanger
and really what that family was all about. But first, you know now
that you're not even sure if these people, whether it's an Elon Musk or
a Donald Trump, are these people organic in their creation or of these people
who assume roles, whether it's through the CIA or whatever, and they take
on that role and they are either the good guy or the bad guy,
Like WWF, what are your thoughts on that? Yes, well, again,
I think this is at the very least. Don't listen to me and
don't believe just anything I say, But think for yourself as to whether you
think that the multi trillion dollar global economy and everything that hinges on it really
is at the whims of just random people and oh, okay, oh,
and now this guy is going to be the president of the United States and
make all the decisions, and now this guy is the richest guy in the
world and he's doing whatever he feels like. Or do you think that these
sorts of things are controlled, steered at the very least by people who with
riches and power, who conspire with each other to maintain and to expand their
riches and power. Again, it only sounds like crazy conspiracy theory when you
tried to pose that in the modern context. When you look through any era
of history, of course, we understand there's always been conspiracies of oligarchs trying
to essentially wield greater power over the average citizen. But oh, I can't
say that these days. So in that regard, I think that was what
I'd say generally about that, specifically with regards to Bill Glick Gates. It's
very gratifying to hear that that documentary series paid off in that way, because
who is Bill Gates At Corbettreport dot com. Slash Gates was the product of
an in Hence in Hence month of work one month a two hour documentary on
Bill Gates. It was a four part documentary, and myself and my video
editor Brockwest were working around the clock on that for a month and managed to
get it out, and I am glad to hear it. It did have
an effect people who haven't seen it. It goes into the background of Gates
in many ways, including, of course, how he how he came to
his virtual monopoly it was Microsoft Monopoly. How did that really transpire? And
is it just the sort of the random happenstance of Oh, this guy was
out, so IBM came to him and tried to license his os, and
he basically bsked them and sold them something he didn't have at the time,
and oh, he just kind of lucked his way into a multi multi billion
dollar portra. I think there's more to say about that, and I do
document that in some of his family connections to the board of IBM, et
cetera. That might have had more to do with that story. But the
real question then is, so what is the motivation of someone like Gates?
And again I don't I think the answer cannot come down fundamentally to money for
someone who really was is one of the richest men in the world. I
don't believe those ritualists are really the ritualist. But anyway, you get the
idea, someone who does have tens or hundreds of billions of dollars capital at
his disposal, what is his real interest in this? Is it getting a
few more points on that scoreboard or is it power and control? And I
think that is the probably the more fruitful way of understanding this, And one
easy way for people to wrap their mind around this is if they happen to
be around in the nineties, as as myself and others were. You might
remember that Bill Gates was a widely reviled figure. Why a lot of people,
he really was seen as this very menacing, evil monopolist, Who's how
did he get so powerful, so rich so quickly? And what's going on
here? That a lot of people didn't like him? Into evidence by the
famous pie in the face moment that I again, of course, do include
in the documentary video. That all went away in the two thousands because Bill
Gates lay, I'm not gonna be on Microsoft anymore. Now I've got this
foundation and we're put pumping all of our money into philanthropy. Well, it
turns out, of course, this was a game plan, a PR game
plan that was pioneered by the Rockefeller family at the early in the early nineteenth
century, a time you had John D. Rockefeller Senior, who was the
probably one of the richest men of all time. When you put his wealth
into modern day dollars, it dwarfs a lot of the so called richest people
these days. And he had similarly a PR problem with people recognizing him as
the face of evil at the octopus with the tentacles everywhere, the standard oil
monopoly, and he turned that around by oh no, suddenly the Rockefellers associated
with the Rockefeller Foundation and this philanthropy in this larger and the Gates specifically and
consciously modeled themselves on the Rockefellers with regards to this, as was revealed by
his Bill Gates' father in his biography Autobiography, So it was. It was
part of a PR plan. And again, what is the ultimate payoff of
this PR plan. Well, I think we've seen it certainly over the past
few years where doctor Bill Gates, well, no, but he might as
well be because the way he was treated by the MSM as some sort of
authority that we should be listening to on any issue of medical relevance, let
alone any other sort of field that's outside of his expertise. But he was
turned to and specifically, as you find out later, Oh maybe that has
something to do with the millions and millions and millions and tens of millions of
dollars of grants that he gives to these various media agencies on a yearly basis
for his foundation for their work in basically covering the foundation and its work.
So it's again, there's so much detail there, but people can look into
that documentary if they want to get really under the hood of that. Yeah,
that's really great. And I always laugh because another worthless fact, but
when he was one years old, Elvis got the infamous polio shot on Bill
Gates's first birthday in King County. Of course, Elvis was the king,
so a lot of people always laugh at the little things that line up,
because of course he would go on to be one of the biggest pushers of
the vaccine industry. And if this guy is organic, as he says,
and this goes back to nine to eleven and George Bush and Shaney, these
people are never held accountable if you look at Bush and Chaney obviously. Yeah,
in fact, if you want so, I guess the question remains,
then Okay, what is the fundamental drive of someone like at Gates? And
I think you could summarize that in two words population control? Yeah, and
that I think that I mean that phrasing every possible interpretation of those words.
Of course, we are trained to think of population control in terms of the
overpopulation problem that we've been propagandized about for half a century at the very least
at this point, well couple of centuries if you go back to the Malthusian
first pseudoscientific formulation of that failed hypothesis, but at any rate, population control.
And of course it was the Rockefellers who were forming the Population Council out
of the ashes of the American eugenic society back in the middle part of the
twentieth century who really held to foster that viewpoint amongst the general public, and
Gates I think has picked up that mantle. And of course part of that
is about population control, as he talked about, for example in that infamous
Ted's speech where he talked about that equation and one of these factors has to
get down to zero, and of course population was part of that equation he
was talking about. But anyway, but also in terms of population control,
as in controlling the population. And we see that manifested in the other sort
of strange spokes in this Gates hub and there's okay, I guess I can
understand he cares about the you know, poor African children, and that's why
he funds all of these medical interventions in Africa, or at least that's the
cover. Right. Well, how about then tying that into digital identification and
digital payment infrastructures and what is his role in all of this? And of
course it all comes down to that concept of population control. You know that's
had never thought of it like that, because we've always talked about popular control,
gone back to his father and planned parenthood. They always happen to put
them in the poorest communities and they champion that type of thing. But it's
interesting when you think about the control and the other verbiage of it actually controlling
us, and that's what they're really doing. And as far as population control,
our birth rates right now are the lowest in decades. And again,
the way they plan things out, they always have more than one objective,
and that is certainly one of them. For an entire year, people were
afraid to shake hands, so of course the birth rates are going to fall.
And now they have really championed the digital age where they really keep people
separated. Like I most people talk to people through the phone than they do
in person these days, so they've really developed quite a technique to keep people
and not even talk. I mean even that is not treat because most people
are just texting now and that's not a trivial distinction. No, no,
we're I mean we're truly changing the way that we communicate with each other.
This relates to something else that is near and dear to my heart. I've
thought about this a long time. They did a documentary series called The Media
Matrix that people might want to check out, where I talked about the development
of mass media and how fundamentally that has transformed our society and where it's going
from here, because if you think just the fact that now we're all just
texting each other and not talking face to faces is important, well, it's
going to get much much crazier in the near future as the augmented reality in
VR and all of that starts to starts to really take over normal human interaction.
And I think there's huge changes that are coming in that's absolutely related to
that population control agenda. Absolutely, And I'll say my follow up question kind
of to that to the end kind of where we're going. All great information
and again that four part documentary to the listeners that the four part documentary,
please find it on Corbett Report dot com and watch it. It will blow
you away how you get into the nooks and crannies of that. It's really
great stuff. Next, we're going to talk about something that's very near and
dear to my heart, Oklahoma City, and Terrence Shakey will get to him
in a moment. But just off the top, what were the main objectives
of April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five. Well, again, I mean,
I suppose we could summarize a lot of this in a similar way. Population
control and early manifestation of the of the sort of the precursor to what was
really ushered in with nine to eleven in terms of the homeland security state.
And we see this as some of the legislation that was forwarded in the wake
of Oklahoma City that then retrospectively, Joe Biden tried to take credit for the
Patriot Act because it was part of what he was pushing in the wake of
this crime Omnibus Bill, et cetera that was being pushed in the wake of
the Oka See bombing. So we see certainly similar, a similar sort of
nine to eleven like event, but pre nine to eleven, and similar also
in the sense that it also stinks to high heaven in terms of all of
the documentable evidence that we have that there was something truly truly perverse going on
there. And you'll forgive me, it's been about a decade since I've covered
this in great details, so I won't have all of the Fahloft at the
top of my head, but I would direct people in the direction of a
documentary that I did on the Secret Life of Timothy McVeigh, which goes into
some of the very very strange aspects of this Patsy collaborator, whatever exactly McVeigh
was, I do think of him in a similar way as Alee Harvey Oswald,
in so far as maybe Oswald, I'm willing to even say, well,
maybe he really did have his figure on the trigger on November twenty second,
nineteen sixty three, but I don't think that he was certainly the mastermind
or the only person involved in that, even if he was firing a gun
the same way with Timmy Murvay. Well maybe he was involved in building a
bomb, et cetera, et cetera. But I don't think he was the
mastermind. And we can take that from many, many different sources, even
Timothy Murvey himself, who most people don't realize and don't know. He wrote
a letter to his sister in which he was saying, oh, yeah,
you know how I washed out of Special Forces and I came home all disillusioned.
Well why do you think that was? No, I didn't wash out.
They actually took me aside and they made me part of this special team
that was going to do drug running and government assassinations, et cetera, et
cetera. This was, at any rate what McVeigh was claiming. He was
also claiming that he was microchipped in his ass and was going crazy from mind
control and all sorts of other stuff. And then he was shut away and
not really heard from again until his execution, at which point at least one
of the witnesses in the room said they continued to see him breathing after he
was pronounced dead, and then he was taken away in a hearst that was
later admitted to have been a decoy that did not have his body. So
question after question with regards to McVeigh and specifically Israel, and how about Nichols,
his convicted co conspirator, who was still languishing in prison trying but not
being actively suppressed by the judge will not let him be deposed, despite the
fact that he has made a declaration to Kenneth trying to do Jesse, trying
to do sorry, Kenneth turned to do his brother, who I've talked to
before, that there were absolutely there was a federal informant and a high ranking
government official that what that he knows by name, was involved in that plot.
He has talked about it in the declaration that I have hosted up on
my side. It's elsewhere out there online just so much with regards to that
story, and the bomb squad was there two hours ahead of time. Someone
called in saying that the Murrah Building had been blown up twenty four minutes before
the bomb went off, et cetera, et cetera. There's so much with
regards to what happened there. At any rate, the more people look into
it, the more they will realize that exactly if you are suspicious about nine
to eleven, you should definitely, definitely not believe the official story of OKC
A grade one hundred percent. And in regards to Timothy mcveig, spent some
time in the military, and I can tell you that this guy, I'm
sure you remember, he was part of General Schwarp's Calls security team during Operation
Desert Storm. And in order to get that close to a general who was
in charge of Sentcom during a war, you're going to get screened. You're
not going to be just some flake. So yeah, the story doesn't add
up. There was some video, whether it's real or not, saying that
he was It looked like he was working on I think it was an M
eleven thirteen tracked vehicle in like, Wisconsin. After his execution, you know
whether or not. That's no, after yeah, after yeah. And then
of course the other thing was, if I remember correctly, what were they
trying to say? They were having a difficult time with the vein and they
put the needle in his leg on his execution day. Am I remembering that
correctly? I think so, I'd have to look up the details again,
but at any rate, I mean, and then there's all the questions about
the CCTV footage and all of the footage of all of the different businesses all
going out at the exact time that the rider truck was supposedly passing by.
And then the footage that we know exists. There are eyewitnesses who talked about
it, who was talked about on the news. There's footage exists of McVeigh
parking, the rider truck getting out. There was another person in the rider
truck, Wizard John Doe number two. All of this is on footage,
but the FBI apparently just can't find that footage. A judge is literally called
out the FBI on that and said he thinks they're lying, et cetera,
et cetera, But what are you going to do anyway? So so much
at the parts of that question, what are we going to do? And
of course they moved it out of Oklahoma City, and they put that they
held the trail on the city that many people consider the headquarters of the nWo
in Denver, Colorado. Right, yeah, and who blew up them were
a building and cleaned away the evidence afterwards. Oh right, the exact same
people who were working on the cleanup of the World Trail seven and the controlled
demolition and coming out and saying, oh, don't sorry, guys, this
was not controlled demolition. What you saw in Rearly eleven just a coincidence.
He was silly conspiracy theorist Tarr Shaky. I spend a lot of time every
April nineteenth, and I do play the audio for your recuem for the suicide.
So here's a guy who was he served in Desert Storm, actually got
out of the military, became i believe, at Oklahoma City police officer,
and I think he was actually writing a speeding ticket when the explosion went off,
and he was one of the first people on the scene, and he
spent the better part of the day, you know, rescuing people. And
then you know, we come to find out that he saw something within that
rubble that didn't add up to the official narrative. And to make a long
story stort short. Excuse me, he was murdered for his troubles. First
of all, how did you come upon the Terrence Shaky story? I mean
that to this day it's really a combination of sadness and being infuriated. Here's
a guy who was to say he was a hero, would be the understatement
of the century, served as country proudly, and then he went in and
say, you know, pulled all those people out that day, and just
because he was pushing for the truth. I mean, if you don't understand
how evil and afarious these people are. If they can kill someone like Karen
Shakey, they can do that to everybody. What are your thoughts on that?
Absolutely well, it's a good question. Actually I don't at this point,
I don't recall what was how I found out about that story or where
I first heard it from. But I did do a podcast on it,
requien for the Suicide terns Yake, which was part of a series that I
did on the suicided. I e. People who committed suicide officially, but
friends of Clint clearly not that. And again in the Yakee case, it's
very clear that he didn't slash his wrists and then drag himself from his car
over a fence a mile down a field and then shoot himself in the head,
as is supposedly the official story on that one. Anyway, Yeah,
he uh caught of the not just any got Cop of the Year honor decorated.
Everyone had only good things to say about him. But whatever he saw,
as you say, one of the first people on the scene that day,
and like so many of the brave, genuine heroes of nine to eleven,
the first responders who saw the craziness and the chaos and ran into it
to help save people, that's exactly what Yeki was doing all day. And
he saw something in there that did not add up, that was not part
of what they were saying on the news. And we don't know exactly what
that was because he had tried to blow the whistle on this. He had
tried to talk to his superiors about it, and obviously other people knew that
he had some sort of information that did not square up with the official story.
He had told his family and coworkers, etc. That there was something
going on, and he had compiled that information, and he was actually on
the way to deliver that information. I can't remember to whom he was delivering
it at that time when he was found dead in the field and declared a
suicide. So it's just another aspect of the story that again, unfortunately,
again, what do we do with this. All we know is the official
story does not add up, and we know that he had something to say
that would have gone completely against whatever was being broadcast on the news at that
time. And interestingly enough, this is one of those stories. It's been
out obviously now for a couple decades, a few decades at this point,
and has always been treated as oh, you know, conspiracy theorists say there's
some sort of something to look at here. But well, and behold,
I think it was just was it earlier this year or late last year?
At any rate? In the very very recent past, CNN came out with
this blockbuster, big deep dive exploration of the Terra Sieki case. And you
know what, it actually isn't a terrible exploration. They do get into some
of the details there and some of the important information, but why why would
they come out with this decades and decades later? And we I'll speculate about
why they might be coming out with some of this information right now. Perhaps
it's simply too late for it to matter politically, as it were, But
at any rate, there you go. As it turns out. Again,
as I say, I wish I was totally out to lunch and completely crazy
and all of this was nonsense. But then you get, you know,
hard hitting investigative reporters coming along a decade plus after my work, decades after
the real pioneers of this research who put all of this information together, and
basically trying to take credit for the information that they had been putting out for
years. Yeah, it is truly a tragic tale. And I want to
say it was a year or two, maybe it was ninety seven, maybe
even ninety eight that his wife, whom I believe at the time he was
actually reconciling what they had been separated than they were getting back together. She
actually did a radio show in Oklahoma City, and I think I played that
on April nineteenth as well, and you can hear the fear in her voice.
I think she understood what she was up against, and I think that
was the last time I ever heard her say anything publicly, very much like
the young lady who was a specialist in the army. It was her first
day back at the Pentagon when the Pentagon got hit. A lot of these
people who tell these stories and then they just disappear and you always wonder what
happened, And you know what, here is a part of the I think
the main takeaway from the whole requiem for the suicide and series I've done is
if you are ever in such a position and you know something, don't tell
people you know something, and then just kind of like scurry around with that
information, get that information out every way you can, as quickly as possible,
as widely as you can, as publicly as you can, because otherwise
you're very likely to end up suicided. Yeah, that's that's a great point.
Well we you know again the controllers are very nefarious. So again,
thank you for your work on Tara Jaki. It was an incredible story.
And I feel for his mother. I've seen interviews a few very brief moments
with his mother and I think his sister, and they're just destroyed at what
happened to him. And then you just get lost in the shuffle. Just
look here in the United States, He's Palestine and Maui. These these should
be huge stories. They just get just run over with the mainstream media.
The next story, the next story, the next story. I'm glad that
people like yourself remember and go back and talk about these heroes, and we
remember them and keep them at the forefront. Lastly, I wanted to talk
about COVID, and again they you know, nineteen years after nine to eleven,
there's the cod that number nineteen comes up a lot, nineteen hijackers,
COVID nineteen. But again, here's this thing where they shut down the entire
country. People are willing to give up their freedoms. And I will tell
you as a side note, James, I'm writing a column this week for
Veterans Today, and in it I talk about how I don't think people really
understand how hard freedom is. People say they want to be free, But
if you think about actual freedom, that means educating your children, doing everything
that you take your forty percent of taxes and you give to the government.
Say in exchange for my thirty or forty percent, you're going to educate my
kids, You're going to get me social security in order to obtain real freedom,
it's a lot of hard work, and I think people don't really understand
it. So going back to COVID again, obviously we know their end state
was very much the same as nine to eleven in Oklahoma City. It was
more power to certain entities locking people down. And then they also shared for
the first time, they gave everyday ordinary people a little sniff of that of
that power. You remember walking into Walmart without your mask on to excuse me,
mister, you better get that mask on. So we really saw a
changing of the guard and going up to the next level as far as the
tierny that we saw here in the United States. And I'm afraid to say
we still have several more layers to go. But what is your biggest one
or two takeaways from what happened with COVID. Yeah. Well, an observation
that I've had cause to make a number of times on the podcast in the
past is that humans are the most studied animal. I don't think of humans
as an animal, but essentially, if you're looking at what is studied by
scientists mostly about humans. Even when scientists are studying animals, it's generally about,
well, how does this apply to humans? And perhaps no more so
than in the social sciences and in psychology and better understanding of how to manipulate
masses of people. And that has been a science and an art form that's
been worked on, I mean demonstrably for the past century since it was really
codified and documented and written about by Edward Burneze talking about propaganda, et cetera,
et cetera. This is definitely something that has been worked on and tailored
and we've seen the fruits of that over the past few years in the way
that people were weaponized against each other, the weaponization of the not the top
down vertical hierarchy, but the horizontal hierarchy, as it were, of policing
each other, the crabs in the bucket, trying to pull each other down,
and that instinct, unfortunately, is extremely an extremely powerful one. It's
why the snitch state ultimately works so effectively, so horribly effectively, because people
do like that little taste of power, and there are people who will definitely
go for that when they see it. Also, the weaponization of phrasing,
and I think if there was ever sort of a better example of the weaponization
of language itself than two weeks to flatten the curve were social distancing or these
other ideas that were planted in the social consciousness in those first few vital weeks
in mind of the generated crisis. Well, I can't think of many better
examples off the top of my head. It's a perfect example of how so
many people can be let alone. And what I think it ultimately exposes is
a lack of understanding of first principles. What do we really believe, really
truly q to as a society and for me for myself, as something I've
articulated for many years, so I didn't have to think about it. It's
health freedom that you have the right certainly to take any precaution that you deem
necessary for yourself, your health, your safety, your family. You can
do whatever you want to do, including sealing yourself up and her sealed bubble.
So whatever whatever you want to do, totally within your right. But
that right cannot infringe on my right to my own bodily autonomy what I deem
to be the proper precautions that I should or shouldn't be taking. And unfortunately,
since most people do not do not even think about first principles, they
can easily be let along the path of emergency. Therefore, whatever whatever we
say goes and people are put into that fight or flight fear response the reptilian
brain and what is the ultimate structure of this what is happening? That was
best articulated, at least for my money, by Giorgio A. Goombin,
who was an Italian philosopher, historian, writer who has written some really important
books in the past. I talked about one of them with regards to emergency
legislation in general. He wrote a book I think two thousand and five about
the history of emergency law, et cetera, and that the history of jurisprudence
surrounding that very interesting. But specifically, it was from a Gombin that I
first heard the term biosecurity, and he talked about what this is the new
biopolitics that was coming into view, in which essentially the I mean you could
phrase it as the body is the battlefield at this point or something along those
lines, but essentially the weaponization of political engagement, even social engagement, and
the vilification of that and making that into a political act, which of course
is ultimately about the ultimate granular control of society down to the individual level,
which is exactly what we see with the institution of the lockdowns, et cetera.
He wrote a very very slim volume and I have up on my shelf
here. I'm not going to remember the name of it, so let me
mean grab it here where are we now? And it's a very slim volume,
just collecting some of his essays that he wrote, but an extremely important
book that I would definitely recommend for people who want to understand biosecurity, what
it is, the agenda behind it. He has some really important points to
make on that. I'll put that link in the stuff, find it on
Amazon or wherever, and I'll put it in the show description, so if
people want to find that as well. But you're right that the scan that
they used they love dividing conquer right. Are you a Democrat or Republican?
Are you a Cowboys fan or a Redskins fan? Are you for the vaccine
or you anti vaccine? They always find a way to put that bit down
low enough, and we all fight amongst ourselves because it's like that part of
the bugs life when we know that the guy's saying, you know, they're
the ninety nine percent. If they ever really find out what's what we're doing
there's going to be hell to pay. So a big part of their plan
is to keep us fighting amongst each other. So you know that the spotlight
is not on that it's exactly exactly right. It's in such an important part
of this, And as I say, the weaponization of the horizontal hierarchy and
getting people to police each other and fight with each other is such an important
part of the way that this operates. And I've attempted to draw attention to
this in many different forms over the years because I think this is one of
the key fundamental insights that we need to have in order to overcome this.
But for example, people can check a recent editorial I wrote on Context is
Everything, in which I showed that famous image and I have to try to
describe it here, but there's the famous sort of op ed cartoon of the
politician who's giving a speech at the stump, and he's on a plank,
one end of the plank covering over this gigantic chasm. The other end of
the plank is being propped up by all the people who are standing on the
plank listening to this politician's speech. And one guy is turning around and walking
away walking off the plank. And the implication, of course, is,
you know, if everyone stopped listening to this guy and giving their attention and
energy to this guy, he'd be gone. It wouldn't. That solves itself,
That problem solves itself right away. We have the power we It's ultimately
about us and what we are devoting our time, our energy, our attention
into bringing into fruition in this world. We are either creating communities that are
functioning in the way we want, or we're just going along with the flow,
listening to whatever the next politician is promising us, and we will be
put into this hierarchy of control and the choice is ours. And it's such
an important thing for us to understand that at least while we still can before
the whatever transhuman nightmare of the future of brainships and mind control and nanobots and
whatever craziness is coming, at the very least, for this time being,
I still have control of my that's rental fac faculties. I still have my
intellectual sovereignty. And we better be flexing those muscles. Learning that we have
those muscles, flexing them, practicing them, getting them. What is it
progressive overload, not of our physical muscles, well that too, but also
our intellectual muscles. That's right. And then going back to the matrix,
you know they've made it. Everything is so expensive, so mom's got to
work, Dad's gotta work. You know, they're working forty fifty sixty hours
a week. They come home, they drink a beer, they go to
sleep, and it's rinse and repeat. So again the matrix they've created.
Luckily, folks like us, we'd a point in our life where we have
time to do these things. But again they've created this web where everybody is
just non It's a NonStop world, and it's very important where we are at
right now. And we're coming up on the hour mark, and I want
to wrap this up because I know you're very busy, and I promise you
an hour. But now I think is more critical as a time as ever,
because I think COVID was a test. They wanted to see where we
were at as society as far as compliance, and I believe that we failed
miserably, not we me and you, but I think society as a whole.
While I do think they overplayed their hand, and as twenty twenty two
and twenty three came about, I think a lot of people did wake up
because of it, But to see people shut down churches and all the horrible
things that we saw over that time, I think we failed miserably. So
I think now, not tomorrow, not next week, now is the time
for people to act on their own behalf. Because, like you said,
if we don't have physical autonomy, if we can't even control on our own
bodies, we're done as a society. So we owe it to our children
and our grandchildren to take action and not just kick the can down to the
next generation, which is something that has happened for a long long time.
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with your summarization there. I think it is absolutely
essential that we as I as I've always posited, as long as humanity remains
fundamentally humanity, I think we'll always be able to overcome various tyrannies that will
come. There will be times of dark darkness, tagging over and dark ages,
et cetera. But humanity has always been able to struggle out of that
because fundamentally, there is something about the human nature that will not abide simple
abject tyranny and slavery. And so that is the hope as it were,
But unfortunately the question of what is human is at least subject to change in
the near future given the types of technologies that we have, and can the
human spark be extinguished forever is a question that unfortunately we're more and more facing
head on. So while we are still here, and while again do not
listen to and just believe whatever James Corbett is saying, er anyone else,
No, no, no, You at the very least you know that you
are real and you are in control of yourself and your own mind. So
you best be using that that faculty in order to, as I say,
either work towards the bringing into the existence what you want in this world or
simply going along with the flow in that matrix cocoon web and basically coasting to
your grave. I think those are those are our options on the table,
and it's pretty stark when you put it that way, and it's certainly it's
certainly not easy. As you say, freedom is not an easy option,
which is why it will never be the most popular option when people have the
Okay, you can be convenient and lazy and go along with the flow,
or you can struggle valiantly your entire life and of course, that doesn't guarantee
any sort of future for the future generations. They have to make that choice
as well. Most people are going to take the convenient, lazy route.
One thing that works in our favor is that most people will go along with
what most people are doing, so in times of in times when there is
a widespread understanding of conspiracy and false flag et cetera, most people will be
like, Okay, yeah, you know, I'm sure there's manipulations and machinations
that happen. If there was a widespread understanding of fundamental core principles about physical
and bodily autonomy and health freedom, et cetera, then I think most people
would kind of go along with that. Unfortunately, most people can be manipulated
by the mass media that tells them you're the crazy wing nut who nobody thinks
like you don't believe you're lying eyes No, you're the only one, and
you should feel ashamed. Unfortunately, that does work on a lot of people.
As I say, psychology has been weaponized and aimed at us for many,
many decades or centuries at this point. So anyway, it's certainly an
uphill struggle, and I'm I can't guarantee whatever the end result of this will
be. But I can guarantee what the end result will be if we simply
lay roll over and take whatever's coming to us. I know that does not
end in a pretty way. So we have to start standing up for our
physical and intellectual sovereignty. Amen for that, brother, and again, James
Corbett, thank you so much for taking the time out of your very busy
schedule to share your knowledge with my listeners. And of course, folks,
it's Corbettreport dot com. The link will be in the show description of James
if I I'll give you the last word. If you have anything you wanted
to add, website, social media, et cetera, I will just direct
people to Corbett Report dot com. As I say, all my work is
there, so please make use of it as a resource. Another thing that
might be appropriate to this conversation is my brief history of Hopium whish I talk
about how people can be roped in by politicians time and time again promising you
the moon. Oh if only Trump were in charge during the scamda oh wait
he was so. Unfortunately, people every four years in the United States,
every few years, and various other locales will get roped into the same political
trick that has been used to shepherd the population to where we are at this
point, and people still keep thinking they're going to vote their way out of
this situation. I'm inclined to disagree with that, but anyway, I think
that might be something people might want to check out. Corporport dot com slash
hope you well done. Turns out Trump didn't drain the swamp and Hillary's still
free, So there you go. But Tom Hanks is totally in a secret
FEMA underground, got prison? Got it? Oh well again, it's been
an absolute pleasure to have you on. God bless you and continued success with
all your work. And again we'll direct everyone to Corbett Repport dot com.
The link will be in the show description for mister James Corbett. I'm George
the fact Uner. God bless you all. Have a great rest of your
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