Uh, what's up, everybody. Welcome to Rose Pricks. It's me Stephanie
Wilder Taylor and my extraordinary partner, Cecily Nobler life partner, life partner.
We have not broken up yet, and if we do, you'll be the
first to read about it on Insta on our Insta stories. Please respect our
privacy at this time. Yeah, we're we're it's everything is amicable if we
were to break up, which we're not, because right now we're working on
our relationship really hard. You guys, We're just we're working on everything.
But if that goes souf, just know that it's we love each other very
very much. We're the best and relax, Okay, we both have.
I just want to say the reason I'm a little scratchy today, my voice
a little cheerleady again, is because so last night I went to dinner,
God you and your dinners. What if I meant that? Yeah, I
was at Alkhambadar and people were just screaming like it was this like young birthday
party, I want to say. They were twenty one and they were making
TikTok videos you know, like you do. Yeah, and they were yelling
at the waiter to take their picture. I mean everyone in the entire restaurant
was annoyed. It was not just me, Like everyone kept looking and like
people asked were asking to move, and it was a whole thing. So
we had to yell over each other for two hours. And I lost my
voice, my sweet golden voice. Oh I say that about myself. Do
you remember the guy that was homeless and on the side of the road and
he got discovered he used to be in voiceovers and they did like a GoFundMe
for him, and he was They were calling him like the Golden Voice guy
and often to him, and then he got like, yeah, do you
remember who I'm talking about? Of course, fully went viral. Yeah what
happened to that guy? I don't know, but I'll tell you this.
Do you remember the viral one of the first viral things ever that was like
Chocolate Rain. Remember that guy? He sang a song called Chocolate Rain.
Yes, oh my god, it's all I could sing for like nine hours,
Chocolate Rain. But he had a very deep voice. My friend Henry
and I put up a YouTube like sketch. We had done a bunch of
like little comedy things together, huh, and we put it up and chocolate
Rain. Guy commented, what on our thing? It was? Really him?
Wow? How did he find it? Do you think? I don't
remember how it all went down, but he had a note. He had
a note for our comedy sketch, which was just it was that it was
very funny, but to get to it faster because we had a literally three
second intro three second intro Chocolate Rain was like too long. Well, maybe
he knew something, maybe he knows something, but although, where's that guy?
I don't know, I don't know, but like we could look that
up. I like the idea of you going on finding something of his and
writing too long, like like as if you're going to get him back and
he has no idea what you're talking about. I feel like, if I'm
honest with myself and with you guys, I feel like I saw his opinion.
I think I had this idea that I was going to reach out to
anyone that was had gone viral and asked them to rate it. I think
I may have somehow like found him first, and then he did the thing
I asked him to do. But then I didn't really ask for a note,
right, I just wanted him to spread it you know, like help
make our thing viral, but I don't remember you went viral and you don't
know me at all, But like, why don't you help me make my
thing viral? Asshole? But I don't remember how that. Why would I
even thought of him? Like, I'm sure that was if it was my
if it was an idea, it was my idea. It certainly wasn't Henry's.
Like I don't like that must have been a late night, can't sleep
two in the morning. How do I change my life? I reach out
to chocolate ring guy that's going to fix everything, and it just didn't.
But I just want to be clear that I don't think it was his fault.
I like sought his thank you for clarifying that. And what did happen
to him? I don't know, but I'll look it up after and then
on a future episode because it's gonna take too long to look this kind of
stuff up now, like Golden Boys Day, Taizon Day is his name?
Okay? And my guy was I think my guy's name was Ted. I'm
not kidding you anyway. Do you know what do you are you guys wondering
like what are we talking about today? Or did you look at the title
of today's episode and go, oh, I know what you're talking about.
Probably that we've actually been itching to talk about housewives real kind of Beverly Hills.
Yeah, and you know I'm not gonna lie. And by the way,
spoiler, I just found out that I just got an alert on Peacock.
You guys probably know this. If you're listening to this, you care
about housewives. The Ultimate Girls Trip just dropped the next season and it's it's
old New York people. But we're talking Kelly, Ben simone O, Kristin,
the one that Ramona through the glass in Kristen's face, Kristin Takeman is
still with that guy Josh who I thought he was one of the people that
cheated on he was caught up in Yes, still together and he was never
nice to her, never nice to her. He treated her like shit.
He was better friends with Heather, remember the yeah hey mama, and she
like allowed that. I hate when women are not girls. Girls do not
like just because you're friends with this person's husband, you do not need to
make the wife feel left out. That's shitty. And you know better,
ladies, you know what I'm saying. You just don't like Heather though.
Unfortunately, Oh I didn't. I know, I know, I know why
you like. I just don't know the way she smiled with all her cheese.
Oh yeah, A lot No, A lot of people disliked her,
and I understand, I understand. I'm not mad at anybody who doesn't like
her, but I just really liked her, and I couldn't help it.
I think i'd like, yeah, you know why, because she stood up
against she stood up to Derinda. She was the only one. Derinda was
gaslighting everybody by being a mean, angry drunk, and I felt like I
was the only one seeing it. I don't even know if I was sober
at that time, but I just thought she was just I thought, Derinda,
you know how I feel about Derinda. I just she's on it.
She's on I think she's going to the thing. I only started the first
four minutes. But I'm thinking, I know you don't like it when I
surprise you, But maybe that's our Thursday shout. I'm just I'm just putting
it out there. I certainly need to get peacock. Do you have peacock?
I got peacock. What is it like? I got you pea cock.
Yeah, you could. You could do a free try for like a
month and then probably get most of it. I don't know if they're dropping
it week by week because I just started. I lent was like three minutes
in and then got like distracted by a viral video somewhere and positive. But
I'm telling you it already. It's I mean, Kelly Bensimone isn't coming back
to this island. This island now. That could be fun, That could
be fun now, it's all the things. Okay, let me ask you
something because this is very polarizing, But how do you feel about Kyle?
Okay, I'm glad you asked that. We didn't even plan that. Okay,
I'm just going to say a lot of things that I haven't said before.
Okay, I'm back and forth on Kyle. I normally like her,
but there have been seasons where she's annoyed me because I don't feel she's authentic
and she's kind of manipulative. Fair enough, this season, I fucking love
her. I think she is a badass. I think she looks hot and
amazing. I'm proud of her, and I think it's if she has if
this thing's really going on with this Morgan lady, I think it's awesome.
Me I too, you do, yes, you got her to prove back.
But we are like but we are alone on an island of loving Kyle
this season. And I am with you that I have honestly disliked her other
seasons too, But I am one hundred percent on the Kyle train right now,
and to the point that I just can't understand all the Kyle hate.
I don't believe hate anymore. When I look at Reddit and all that stuff,
Like I think of all the people that have publicists, like even let's
say Lisa vander Pomp. I don't think she'd fuck with Kyle now, but
they really didn't like each other for a long time, you know. And
I think or people like whoever sut whoever it is, they hire people.
I know there's real people that feel a certain way. I mean, I'm
on Whispering. I know those are real people. But sometimes, like Reddit,
I just think it's like bots or it's just haters. Like I don't
trust any of that shit anymore. I don't think that haters are gonna hate.
I think play is going to play. I mean, that's just what
I think and then Okay, So then I wonder because when I read read
it and I understand what you're saying that that's not necessarily representative of the regular
public, but because but people on Reddit really don't like her, and and
then I think, okay, is the reason that I like her? But
this you saying that you like her too has made me feel better because you
and I have different upbringings. So because part of me goes like, do
I relate to her? Well, you know, I'm I'm sober, I
don't speak to one of my sisters. Well I one of my sisters.
I have one sister, you know, I have family members that I don't
that I that I don't speak to, you know. So part of me
is like, do I just relate to her? You know? And other
people don't and that's why I defend her. And but part of me is
like, no, I just I I hear you. I totally. I
mean, I can relate to a lot of that too, But like I
I think, I just like the work that she's not on herself, and
I can't believe. So today we're going to be talking, We're going to
be recapping last night's episode, but we're also going to be sort of doing
an overall to catch us up to where we are now, right, And
one of the things is that, like, I can't believe how much shit
she is getting for getting sober. I can't believe people are so fucked up
like Sutton and whoever will go on like record making fun of someone for getting
healthy. It is. I'm sure it happens a lot because people are jealous.
They look at their own shit and they're like, okay, I miss
know it all. Like I think people just don't want to look at their
own stuff. But Kyle has done nothing wrong by like getting her shit together,
and some people are going to say, oh, well, Kyle was
you know, could have been seen as having a drinking problem in the past,
so who is she? But I don't think that Kyle is judging people's
drinking. I don't I think and you know, maybe I'm about to judge
some people's drinking. But I think Kyle is just now she's just pointing out
things that she's seeing, just the same way everybody does. And right,
like we'll get to this, but this was a scene in a previous episode.
But when you know, the scene where I'm trying to get everywhere.
Sutton and Kyle get into a fight at Sutton's house. I mean, Sutton
thought it was hilarious to be on camera insisting that her assistant pour her drinks,
pour her a huge glass of vodka in the middle of the day.
Oh yeah, No, she's got some shit. Now she's trying to pretend,
like, how dare you like insinuate that I was drinking. Well,
she was fucked up at her house when she got in that fight with Kyle.
Name them, name yeah, name them. But now she cannot stop
talking about the fact that her whole thing is like I can't believe Kyle's trying
to say that I might possibly have a drinking problem. It's like, I
mean, there's a lot to right. I do want to say this about
Kyle though I was watching because you know, I'm obsessed. I was watching
an old episode recently where she was pretty drunk herself, which is totally fine.
It's kind of the show. I mean, they're giving them, you
know, they're they're not eating a lot, and they're drinking and going on
these forced vacations. So I mean, I have half a drink and I'm
wasted, so I wouldn't last a second on these shows. But so she's
on some vacation I don't remember where they were, and Erica was having some
fun. She had a migraine and she was going through it and she didn't
want to drink, so she was kind of but she was still chilling and
showing up. She just was kind of chill, going to bed early.
Kyle yelled at her and every she and Teddy fucking nightmare of a person.
Teddy yelled at yelled at Erica, bullied her the whole time for not being
fun. Kyle's on camera for saying things like, oh, I'm so bored
by sober people. I mean, she was saying all the things I'm not
saying. She deserves to get it back, but she's definitely been the person
that's bullied people for not partying. Yeah, well, I'm gonna be vulnerable
right now and say that. That's also relatable to me because I wrote a
book called Sippy Cups or Not for Chardonnay that was all about like, how
much you know, I have loved my drinking, and I have many times
been like people that don't drink are boring. I don't want to be around
moms that don't drink. It sucks. I can't believe I did. I
can't believe that was what I said. But I think it's because, looking
back, I think part of it had to do with thinking that people that
don't drink were judging my drinking. So it was like a defense mechanism.
It was like I don't have a problem, Like everybody needs to relax,
Like I'm fine, I'm fun. You're the one who's fun. That's what
she was doing. But remember it all goes back to season one too,
when you know Kim who is doing fucking kick ass great. Now, I
think Kim Richard's like I can't believe I'm seeing the Kim I'm seeing. But
she was really fucked up. And you know, Kyle on camera, I
was like, you're an alcohol like you're sick. She was using her alcoholism,
which was real, but she was talking about it on camera. She
was using it against her in every fight, like I can see. I
guess my point is, I can see why people have not loved Kyle and
we and we have felt the same way in the past, but now she
I definitely have I've definitely felt that she was fake and mean and all the
things, but this season. And that's the magic that Real Housewife springs.
It's every season. It's like a clean slate. I have really liked Sutton
in the past. I have been the I've been a Sutton defender. I've
been like, God, people are so mean to Sutton and poor things.
She seems like she might be on the spectrum. You know, she's just
kind of awkward, like people need to leave her alone, like she she
means well. And thank god Garcels they're the defender now this season. Don't
like Garcel or Suddon don't either, and also, don't get mad at me.
This is high alert before we actually even get into the recap. I'm
not hating Erica. I know that we disagree on that and that's okay,
but I'm really enjoying her this season. Eric is not bothering me either.
I mean, I do I think that Eric is suddenly a good person?
No, I think it's all performative. But how if we're just taking it
based on that performance, I'm fine. She's a lot of fun. She's
kind of become the like a chiller Bethany. That's like a little bit the
voice of reason what Bethany used to be like obviously. It just goes to
show that you really can kind of turn over a new leaf every time.
This show lets you be born reborn. Okay, let's talk about this episode
as we go through, like how we feel about everything. Okay, I
will. I will start us off on how this episode opens. So we're
in the aftermath of the dinner party and Kyle is kind of talking to Mo
and telling him like how annoying it was that everybody was like, you know,
yelling at her, and she's like, yeah, I mean, I
guess there's you know, there's just a lot of rumors about our marriage.
Meanwhile, well, because you know, we know from doing being involved in
reality TV, how set up everything is. And I had to laugh at
how Kyle's burken bag was just like like right, it was almost like product
placement for a frickin' burken bag. It's like, all right, we get
that you guys are rich. We see your green alligator birken bag right behind
you. Shut up. She has like ten of them, and it's shocking
to me when they flash all this. I mean, not that they deserved
it, but remember she had her house broken to everything stolen. Same with
Dori, like why do you flash it so much. I would not want
to do that, especially when you're showing where your house is. They show
the house, they show the exterior. People know where they live. It's
like dad, okay, but all right, you know you're allowed to be
rich. That's the show. Okay, you know that. You know what
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I do not like doing is meal planning and going to the grocery store and
buying a million spices and ingredients of things that I will not really use.
And this is what I love about HelloFresh. It is actually a money saver.
It costs less to get Hello Fresh than it does to be ordering takeout
every night, for sure, And the food is delicious and so easy that
even I can prepare it. You've tried some recipes for them? I mean,
you know me, I am a microwave queen. I don't cook at
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one meal kit Hell. Yes, okay, let me say this about mo
really prosed get into it. I mean, the theories online, but also
it's obvious like he did something. She's mad at him, she is uming
at him. Yes, and it seems like I believe he cheated. I
believe he was caught cheating. Definitely cheated. But it reminds me of the
Kelsey Grammar Camille situation. So yeah, it reminds me of that situation where
Kelsey Grammer basically like was leaving Camille. She knew this, but they basically
had an idea that was like, Okay, just be nice to me,
do this favor for me, and be in the last be in the season
with me. M M. And I think I think Moe doesn't want didn't
want to divorce her, but he fucked up so bad. She was like,
you will do whatever the fuck I say until we figure this out.
Well, what she's saying about all the rumors, I mean they have been
swirling four years, and you know the tabloids. I mean, usually where
there's smoke, there's fire. Probably Maurice does Mauricio does cheat, and yeah,
she probably found out. I agree with your theory because she sees he's
rowing up out by him every time he's like, oh I could kiss you,
I can kiss you another I want to Like, you could see her
almost recoil, right. I totally saw that he touches and she's like trying
to get past him. She's like okay, yeah, and I love that
there's this like kind of tough I don't know with this Morgan lady is like
Morgan, wait whatever, she's like pulling out of her all the tats and
stuff. I'm just like, look, I don't think that's going to end
well either for many reasons. But maybe they will be best friends for life.
Maybe this needs is the friendship she always needed. I fully believe that
she's dating, that they're they're hooking up too. Yeah, because there were
so many trees. Yeah, yes, because we know that's the thing.
So many people are like, oh, it's so fake, all this is
such a bullshit. It's a storyline. I'll tell you when I knew this
seat when she when she facetimes her and she's you can tell Kyle is nervous.
Uh huh. She's getting ready you notice that too with the time yep,
I was like, oh, she has a totally different energy when she
talks to her, like she's talking to like a girl she likes. Yes,
it does not have friendship energy. We have seen her with friends.
Do I ever think she hooked up at any point with Teddy? Absolutely not.
She had no that was purely friends. This is like a sexy,
hot, young lesbian, and I think Kyle is feeling feelings. I think
she you know, I'm not saying that that even means that she's a lesbian.
I just think that she's really been fed up with Mauricio and yeah,
midlife crisis, whatever you want to call it. She is like very happily
having a crush and it could just be a distraction for her. I don't
know, but I definitely think they're hooking up. I one hundred percent agree,
and I think that Kyle's killing it. Okay, so we start out
how do we start out the episode? So they're talking and then whatever,
and then and then she gets grossed out. So now we're at Sutton's store
and it's called Sutton and it's like all Sutton is now is just like I'm
a business woman, I'm a business I'm I'm just doing business. I'm just
a business woman doing business. And then she's got this store, her assistant
who wants to serve food, and she's like, no food, and then
she and this is why this is going to come back later, because we
need to talk about how Sutton is so mad at Anne Marie and Reddit hates
Anne Marie. And I think she's fine. I think if Anne Marie wants
to just point out, like Suttons is doing this whole thing about how her
she has something wrong with her esophagus, but she also seems to have an
eating thing, like I'm sorry, but if you're like, no, no
food, no one eats because they're all on ozempic or or ozpause or ozuzuzuzus.
It's like ozempic. You know what it's called ozempic. Stop trying to
you know, it's called azembic because you're on ozempic and or whatever the fuck
and also a zembic PS. I have a friend who takes it up,
a few friends who take it. And one of the reasons that you don't
eat, the reason you lose weight is because you're nauseous. You don't want
to eat. You're nauseated, so it would make sense that she herself is
on a zempic. She knows what it's called because she's like nauseous and doesn't
want to eat. Yeah, and even if she's just is somebody I mean
to just come for Kyle because Kyle's like, you know, you never eat.
But she's so aggressively mean. Okay, but we'll go through it.
Okay. Also, she makes she gets three hundred thousand dollars a month from
her ex husband. Oh my god, I don't remember what he did or
whatever. But she's just insufferable. She's one of the worst people I've seen.
I mean, look that I'm not including Derinda. I know she's worse.
I guess if you had to choose, Ramona is worse, but like
she's pretty up there. Yeah. So Crystal calls and asks her if she's
going to invite Kyle, and she's like, well, I don't want to
invite her if we're going to fat I'm just a business lady doing business.
I'm just doing business things. And Kyle asked me so many questions and made
insinuations about my drinking, like is she fucking for real? You? She
flat out ruined Kyle's dinner party. Now she's worried about fighting at her store
because it's set and and they're just doing I'm just a bit, you know,
I'm just from the South and we just don't act like that. Yeah,
but she's the worst though. She couldn't have acted less southern. Oh
God, of course she's the nightmare. Well, I don't know it from
Waco. You know, people will be real NASTERO. I'm We're just we're
having a tea party. I don't know why you would say, and then
behind your back, they're going to say the worst things I've ever heard,
right, And she was saying the worst things to Kyle in front of Kyle
and embarrassing Kyle in front of all her friends, including about her sister,
like you're going to lose another sister. You're going to lose a different and
so what the line two sisters? You want to lose another one? She's
called herself a sister. I didn't even understand what she was trying to say.
I didn't either. I didn't either, but it was so mean and
below the belt. She's basically like, nobody lacks you. Nobody lacks you,
Kyle. She's so mean, she's just a snake. Uh. Okay.
So then she says she's talking at Crystal and she's like, you know,
the accusation of my drinking could hurt my business or my custody arrangement.
And then two seconds later she's like, I have to inventory the whole store.
I'm gonna need about twenty drinks to do it. Yeah, she says
this stuff herself. Also, she also keeps saying and this is pointed out
in Vulture, where she's like, you know, I just did everything.
I can't believe. I'm really proud of myself for starting this business. I
guess I'm just a real business woman. And again, she never really mentions
that she uses her ex husband's this is what it's saying money. Yeah,
somebody started her on this episode. They were like, well, did you
use your husband's money or xenses money. She's like, right, yeah,
I did this, but I did this on my own. I did this
all on my own. Fuck off, fuck off. Okay. So then
okay, so then let's see, Oh so Kyle's now, Oh, I
just I wrote Crystal is a shit stir with no story of her own.
Discuss totally discuss Okay, I've never really been a huge fan of Crystal.
Now she's always there's vibes. I don't really understand exactly what she's there for.
I like that she's not as sensitive as she used to be. But
keep in mind, wasn't Crystal had the huge fight with Sutton two seasons ago,
right, Yes, where she came to like molesting her. No,
Crystal accused Sutton of molesting her. Crystal. Yes, Crystal was in her
room doing god knows what and Sutton came in to get a jacket and then
off you that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, and she was like
violated me and she wouldn't let that go. But now they're best. They're
so close that Crystal has to call Sutton after they hated each other that much,
just to call her up and be like everyone's talking about y'all. Yeah,
she's such a tattletale. She's just like, yeah, like Kyle said
that you're an alcoholic, but don't say don't say I said it. But
I mean, if we were on the show, what we'd have to be
that person too, Like, if you're you're either stirring it or you're being
stirred, I guess it's like the whole idea. And if I mean,
I don't you know, I still don't like Crystal, but I get why
she would do it because she has no storyline. This is the problem.
So they neither does Garcel. Garcel has no storyline. So Garcel's making it
her storyline to just talk shit about the other women. Yeah, and I'm
about tired of the Garcel with her sons, like every like every time I
kind of skip through that sometimes when she goes to dinner with her sons,
I'm like, we're not watching housewives for this, No, exactly, especially
the young sons. I'm not talking about the one that hooked up with Lala,
right of course, Raquel. No, that's different, that's an adult,
Yes, exactly. So Okay, Kyle coach, Yeah, British life
coach and who I actually kind of liked. I mean, it was basically
like watching her be in therapy. So Kyle starts talking about the fact that
Kathy has never been supportive to her in anything she's done, and I was
feeling super sad for her when she's like, Kathy threatened legal action when Kyle
put out American Woman, which by the way, was not a reality show.
It was a scripted show that was loosely based on her life. It
was scripted, Yeah, it was. I remember Kathy being really pissed.
Kim was pissed too, but Kathy has more resources, you know, to
come after her. So they were all mad. I mean, Kim was
just jealous. That's a lot of jealousy. Remember that these kids, not
Kathy, but Kim and Kyle were pitted against each other as child stars.
They had this stage mother mother, which is what Kyle's talking about when she
talks about their family. They all wanted to be actresses, they wanted to
be doing what they were doing, but like you know, they were kind
of jealous. Like it was like a breeding ground for hating each other in
many ways, Like I can't believe that they're as good as they are,
to be honest, after what like their life is, but only one at
a time. They seem to really triangulate. So it's like, right now,
Kim and Kyle are together and they're probably mad at Kathy together, but
before that it was Kathy and Kim, and Kathy kept inviting Kim to stuff
but not Kyle. It's just it sounds terrible, Oh my god, that's
such a good point. I think I think Kim is enjoying her new whatever
she's done. I like, hats off to Kim, but I think she's
enjoying it too much, like because later when she's talking to Kyle, she's
like, I just want you guys to get along, Like, can you
imagine someone who has been such a train wreck as Kim as Kim is now
giving you like all this advice. Yes, I mean while Kyle has to
kind of suffer that. She's like, uh huh right, yeah, okay,
so okay, So Kyle talks about how her best friend died by suicide.
Yeah, it was very triggered. I knew you would be. I
knew you would be. And she's talking and then her life coach is like,
well, now that that friend has gone, you still need like a
safe place, like somebody to talk to about stuff. And I started feeling
extra bad for her because she just doesn't have anybody that she can really trust
or go to. Yeah, and it was a shock. I don't remember
if we dis missed that, But I don't remember that making like pages,
you know, I don't think that was in the new Like that wasn't discussed
leading up to this season. So I felt like that was kind of a
shock. Her friend was named Loreen, and like we had not and obviously
Loreene didn't want to be She'd come to a party every now and then over
the last many years. They've been friends since second grade. It's so fucking
sad and yeah, no, totally connected to Kyle on that. And of
course she needs people, like of course she needs to now. And then
with Mo being gone like Mo, like her whole world is crumbling and she's
like a fucking instead of just freakinging. Instead she just worked out and got
great highlights. Yeah, yeah, girl, Okay, okay. I was
having dinner with her son and his girlfriend and so boring, and I literally
wrote, I'm sorry, but having children is not a storyline. Moving on
exactly, I just skipped. I skipped. So now Erica is talking.
Uh yeah, I might have skipped a part of Erica. She just calls
her mom she got she got the Las Vegas residency. Her publicist tell her,
her agents tell her that she got a residency in Las Vegas. I
was happy for her, actually, I was like we should all go in
my mind, but then she calls her mom and one thing I like about
Erica. She has mother issues. They're always fighting. She's always annoyed by
her mom. Yeah, and her mom is really annoying. So her mom
already was She was like, well, who's going to do your hair?
Can I? And She's like, mom, are you are you asking me?
She's like, I don't know who's going to do my hair yet?
In two months for this residency, but she was inviting her to come to
the opening night and the mom was angling to get her hair and make up
done by whoever's right, right? Right? Eric is like, can we
just wait on that? We just have a moment where this is a really
exciting thing that I'm doing. Right. We skipped something that's kind of important,
which was it's time to really get introduced to Anne Marie. Anne Marie,
our house is bananas. Marcel's my husband. We've been together for nine
years and when we met, he told me that he was going to be
my husband. He says, I'm an eight and a half across the board.
Okay, what the fuck that's called nagging? That's that she doesn't have.
It has no idea that like, your husband shouldn't tell you you're an
eight and a half. That's ridiculous. She's like, yeah, because I
mean, I'm not the best cook. I'm not really good at anything.
So my husband lets me know that. I don't know, it's I don't
know if i'd mind that. I mean, I guess I would be upset
if someone said that about my like humor or something like, if they I
would think they were lying if a guy, if a guy was like,
you are a ten out of that would be a lie. So I would
think they'd say, yeah, okay, you're you're definitely a solid eight point
five, like I'd take that. But if they said across the board,
I feel like that'd be a little offensive. I mean, your husband should
think that you're a ten out of ten, should think you're a ten,
Like what, well compared to like supermodels? No, you're not a ten.
Well, you shouldn't be comparing me to supermodels. That's her husband.
He shouldn't be like And that's when he according to him, he was like,
yeah, I just you know, I like you because you're not perfect.
That's just a weird thing to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm with you. It's weird. I don't love her, but I know
we're gonna so we're just meeting her right like kind of learning about her.
She feels a little forced to me, but we'll see the jury's hours,
of course. But so now we're back to Sutton and she's like fusten around
in her store with her flower wreath and her gay assistant is like trying to
do her thing and eyes. Sutton is like, stop stop it right now,
Okay, stop Boston me around. You're not my father. That's so
so bad for him because apparently he didn't get the memo that he's not Erica's
glam guy Mikey, because he's trying to be like, girl, you better
work change those shoes, like, and Sutton's just not She's like, no,
I don't understand that it's not a good match. None of it makes
sense. She's so abusive to him, and we've seen that in episodes this
season. She's awful to him, and I really feel for him. And
then we get like a Lenny and Squiggy moment because while she's doing that to
him, all of a sudden, we're like hello, and it's Erica's gay
hairstylist trying to put a bow in her hair or give her a side pony,
which looked great. I want to say I trust him, although for
remember last year or whatever year was, I was like, I feel like
all her little her little glam squad is lying to her because they were putting
her in the worst things. But now I think they've calmed down. So
then we have the scene that we approached earlier where Kyle is talking to Morgan
and I just wrote, let's discuss but we already kind of discussed it.
But Morgan's like, what are you wearing? Yeah? She kind of nags
that's kind of her thing. She's like, she's always gonna roast me.
That's just what our prins. I don't know how positive that is ultimately,
because you know, she's like in her twenties and Kyle's in her fifties.
It's not always my favorite thing, especially when it's I think it's okay for
me when it's women because there's still a power dynamic, but it's not as
crazy, right, you know what I mean? I guess I don't know.
Maybe, and she's the old like Kyle's the older one, and that's
who we know. I mean, it's fine, but like I don't know
if that's sustainable because she's always gonna be like you're old. You're wearing old
folks clothes. Why are you wearing a robe? It's like Jill, You're
wearing a black T shirt with tats, Like I mean, you know,
judge her robe. Yeah, exactly. Everybody calmed down. I'll but it
was when she picked up the thing when she was just like you could tell
when someone's kind of breath you when they can't quite breathe on a phone call.
I totally called it, and I was like, Oh, she is
into her. Oh. I think. I think that Kyle talks to her
girlfriend, her friend Morgan, probably like ten times a day. I think
they talk all the time. They talk like right before Morgan goes on.
They talk right before Kyle goes anywhere. I like it, and I like
if Morgan is one of the reasons that Kyle has this new well an,
another reason of her calmness is like her not drinking and her really being focused
on being healthy. You know, that's one of the reasons. But also
I think maybe like it's bringing a different energy out of her. I like
that. We like it so much. Okay, but then she brings Kim,
her sister, right to the party. So what are you I've said
how I think Kim's doing well. What's your first thoughts on Ken? I
think so too. You know, I found Kim to be kind of triggering
to watch in early things because she would say she's sober, and it was
like, no, you're not over, but yeah, she seems fine now,
definitely, definitely sober now. I think it's the first time I remember
even seeing her this way. I think all those times where she's pretend she
was lying when she was dating that guy and they all were late to go
to Hawaii and that was horrible to watch. She was out of her mind,
yes, and when Kyle was being gas lit, like Kyle was like
spinning her wheels trying to like I mean we've all been there, yes,
where it's just like you just want to hug her and go go dowlan on.
It's all you can do is stop engaging, right, I've had to
do it where you're just like you've got to set up a boundary. And
of course she's using and like it's not it's not your problem, it's not
your business. Yeah, I mean it's your business because your sister and I
get that, but like, you know, it's a whole fucking thing.
But Kim is doing well. I don't know about the drawing coloring on the
walls, but why not? Sure? Sure, I mean I do.
I think that Kim has some mental health issues, like outside of addiction,
you know. I mean they talked a lot about how Kim just doesn't go
anywhere or do anything, and like was especially around COVID. Just wouldn't come
out of her house at all. So, you know, so some other
stuff is going on with her. But I definitely think she is not drinking,
which makes me happy. She was, Yeah, she was great,
and then so then she tried to she tried to come say hi to Sutton,
and sudden just like wasn't. She's one of those is all over the
place wells her store, running around her store, and her assistants like,
do you want some caviat and she's like not yet he made me eat all
that sushi. It's like okay, which is it then, because then later
you're going to be like, no, I can't eat because of my throat.
But no, that's not true. You just don't want to eat.
You seem like repelled by food. Also, let's talk about the fact that
she kept saying every time she was going to have a drink. This is
my first drink of the day. I think I've earned it. You don't
have if you don't have a drinking issue. Usually you're not telling people how
many drinks you have or haven't had that day. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
She was doing that a lot. Is this when she gave the speech,
she gives like a big, terrible speech. No, not yet, so
let's see. So then Sutton's like, Sutton is I said? She says
some weird thing about giving people labels, and I hope women aren't lit labeling
other women, but tonight I like labels. Oh that's her speech talking about
That's what I'm talking about. Okay, that was her big speech. Yeah,
she like gets up and she's like has a microphone, and everyone's like,
what the fuck is she talking about? Right, And that's when she
said she finished. She goes, okay, I'm I'm okay, Well it's
time for I guess drinking. And then well she says it later to Kim
and Kyle She's like, is that okay? Mom? Yeah, she says,
I'm going to have my first drink now getting permission from mom. I
hate her so much. I do to we haven't even talked about Dereite yet.
This season we have a live some thoughts on Deurite as well, which
I'll get you should be like pop in here with her because I know she's
there in her chanel. Well, let's just get through this one scene first,
because after Sutton is like making such a big passive aggressive deal, I'm
going to have one drink now? Is that okay with you? Kyle?
And then Kyle says, I never, I never said you had a problem.
I said that like that one night, like I didn't know if you'd
had one drink or five drinks, Like I didn't know. And I think
they're talking about when she was at Sutton's house. She's like, I didn't
know what was up with you, Like was it your medication? Were you
drinking? And then Sutton just gets real crazy. She's like, that could
really hurt my reputation. I can't believe you're saying that. Meanwhile, she
had called her out, she'd called kylea I was like, why are you
wearing that ring? Is that a makeup? And she and Garcela were bullying
Kyle about her like bailing marriage. They were being so mean that it was
we didn't even talk about the dinner party from hell. I do think that's
important because we have to talk about Denise. Oh, by the way,
that was not That wasn't just weed. I know they've all said it in
the confessionals, but like that girl was high as buck on see oh yeah,
oh yeah for sure. That that was maddening to watch. And I
feel not to gain. I know we're here to mike jokes, but I
feel sorry for their kids. Like if Charlie Sheen is your dad, oh
and that's your mom on camera? Yeah yeah fuck. I mean, the
only fans is not a shock. Also, just the Garcel. Garcel is
just so sneaky. You know, Garcel makes these comments. She's real nice
to everybody's face, but then behind like in her little confessional she's like,
yeah, I mean, why is Kyle wearing a different ring? Is she?
You know? It's like, Garcel, why don't you say something that
if you care about your friends, say, are you okay? Friend?
Right? Hey, I know we're on a show together, but like we're
gonna be talking about some real shit that's going down. Let's talk about it,
but let's also talk about this. A couple episodes ago, Garcel's and
her confessionals. She's talking, They're talking about the ring and all the shit
with Kyle. Then she makes this comment that really pissed me off. She
does her little thing where you know, they say a little snarky thing and
then they drink out of their little straw. She says the thing about Durree.
She was like, all I know is after Durree's home invasion, basically
putting that in grice with her way to set it, She's like she still
had a her jewelry. Okay, that's a pretty big accusation, right are
you saying that? Dari. First of all, I do not believe maybe
PK set it up. Maybe it was something gone wrong and insurance fraud gone
wrong, but I don't think Dark had anything to do with it. She
is not that good of an actress. I think she was out of her
mind with fear of whatever went down there. This was last season and Garcel
to make a statement like that, that is I mean, I hope they
addressed that at some point, maybe the reunion. I hope so, because
I mean I'm gonna you know, Andy asks and like watch what like they
ask for reunion questions. Yep, I'm going to send it in every day
until my question gets asked. I think that's a good idea because as soon
as I saw that, I had the same reaction as you. I was
like, oh my god, imagine Duree watching that back. Yeah, that's
right. So they haven't they haven't said anything yet because they don't know yet.
Right, that's right, because like Garcel's not said it out loud,
she just said in a confessional, but that better come up. And what
a shitty thing, like Garcel, if you know something, if you know
for sure that like that whole thing was a complete setup, then you better
tell us, right, that's that's just disgusting. What makes me so mad
about the fans of the show or the people that talk about it on Reddit
is they're very selective. Like everybody's mad at Anne Marie for like implying that
Sutton might be lying about the her you know, throat sphincter mm hmm,
about like her esophagus and that's why she doesn't eat, And everybody's like,
how dare Anne Marie like question her about that? But then nobody's mad at
Garcel, right question. They loved it on Whispering. I thought it was
funny. They're like, ooh, that little side eye. I mean,
yeah, it was a fun little side eye, but it was really cruel,
like she thought her kids were gonna die. I just think that's insane,
and like she's so upset. I mean, it wasn't great what Erica
was saying to her kids at that party when Erica was all fucked up,
right, like, but she was kind of joking like her kid. I'm
not defending Erica in that scene, but when her kid came in and she's
like, you're too young to be here, fuck off, Like she was
just being like Brian Coxy, fuck off, right, But Erica had to
be dragged and still is. Garcel's like, I just don't trust you with
my feelings. It's so much Garcel do less. It's ridiculous. I can't
believe. Like here we are one season later, Like so I'm so defending
I mean, it was weird that Erica wanted a threesome with the older kid.
She's like, but that was not a kid, that was the older
one that was the adult ended up hooking up with Raquel from vander Pomp.
Correct my name Raquel is so long ago that I can't even remember that.
But yeah, it was weird to say, like, call your wife,
let's get a threesome going. We'll get it in all the holes. Okay,
Erica, maybe you do less too, but it was kind of funny
and it wasn't like so terrible that Garcela needs to be talking about it two
years later, right right? Okay, so there, So then everybody's proud
of Erica for not reacting to Denise when Denise was like, yeah, leave
me, shall watch the show. Why why are you sovene to me?
Yeah, and she's like and peter her back or your upside down code on,
and to Reid, who I'm also loving right now, is like,
honey, honey, your code's upside down. She's like, I know what
you're trying to do. I know. And she's like, no, I'm
not. Oh She's like I want it like this. I don't care.
I mean, they were really high. She was on something else, but
like Sutton was just so high. There was a scene when for some reason
Cynthia from Housewives Atlanta is there. I guess she's going to maybe be on
one of these shows at some point. I like Cynthia, I always have.
But when they're trying to get They're trying to like wrangle Sutton to get
back into this van that they've hired, that Bravos hired afterwards, and she's
so high that she pauses and starts staring at the van driver for a while,
and Cynthia's like, okay, honey, we okay, we gotta go.
Let's coach. But I mean we've all been that high on pot.
Like, I get it, right, but that was just a bad like
And then I want to point out also, Denise did not smoke. She
was like, no TC for me, cause I'm just doing crank. It's
hilarious. Yeah, you know, I don't want that in my food.
No, thank you. I am a mother and soccer mother. All of
that was like one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time.
It was good. It was really good. So now, so Kyle is
trying to say to Sutton. Kyle and Sutton are kind of having it out
a little bit, and she's like, well, you know you were,
cause Sun is so wrong, she's so sinned against. She's just like,
Okay, I can't believe that you're insinuating that I might have a drinking problem.
Kyle's like okay, but you also we're questioning me about my ring and
like you really wouldn't stop, and and then uh, then Sudden denies it.
Oh because she's like, you said that the ring might have been like
a makeup ring, and Something's like, no, I didn't know. I
didn't say that, and Kyle's like, well I don't. Then Garcela said
it, and Something's like, well, it was just a symptom of what
everyone's been saying, bitch, what the fuck? Like what? So,
okay, you didn't technically say that, but you were leading the charge in
telling Kyle you gotta be honest, you're hading something, You're totally hath you're
had in something. I'm right, okay, Sorry, that was that went
off the rails a little bit of it. So then Sudden does a little
to camera thing where she's like, everyone says Kyle and Mauricio don't love each
other and Moe's cheating, like as if, well it's not me, everyone
says it. Everyone says it. So then gar our Cell starts saying that
Kyle always has different rings, and then they point out what this might have
been. This might have been to camera, might have been Garcia like a
graphic right, and she's like she's wearing a Tiffany Tea ring, which,
uh, and now I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist here, but
I bet that Morgan also has the same ring. I hope she does the
Tiffany Tea ring. I mean, and also Kyle can buy some rings for
herself, like they're richest. Fuck that she buys jewelry all the time.
Like it was just a shitty It might be true what they're saying about Mo.
I don't know, but like, okay, right, okay, so
now this is a big scene. So now Sutton is now mad at Derete
because she heard from Crystal that Derete says she has a drinking problem. And
then Derete tries to deny it. She's like, honey, no, and
then we see a clip of her saying, well, I wouldn't be surprised
if Sutton puts a little vodka or coffee cup in the morning. Now agree
with Darit here, That doesn't mean, Duritit wasn't like we need to sit
down and have an intervention because something's got such a bad drinking problem. Durite
was just like, yeah, I mean, she's doing something pei Kai.
Yeah, like she's like, she's definitely doing something. Okay, that was
kind of funny. Hey Crystal, Hey baba. It was kind of funny
when Crystal did the thing where they she's like, now, Durite's going into
Crystal to say like what the fuck you can't you know, like like why
did you tell her this? Whatever? And when she's so long winded,
and Crystal's like, you hear about it, you fear it, you wish
it would never happen to you, But today I am at the other end
of a Dreete interrogation, right right right. That was kind of funny.
I'll give Crystal that if we want to have her be like the Greek chorus.
Yes, but Crystal tries so hard to just like get these little jobs
in and do stuff and create a storyline. And it's not her storyline.
She's not even involved. She's just trying to to involve herself in it.
And then she has the nerve to be like I'm bored, really, bitch,
you're bored, Well, why are you starting shit? Right? Yeah?
Why are you boarding to Sutton? That Durite said made that comment when
it really was kind of an innocuous comment. That's what I think. Okay,
now let's talk about Anne Marie. Yeah, because now she's coming into
like, first of all, she's not she I gonn to just play devil's
advocate here. I'm not a huge fan of her. She's not a doctor,
right, She's not a doctor. Right. It's just not only is
she not Sutton's doctor, she's not a doctor. Right. So she and
that is a real thing. I'm not saying Sutton has it, but that's
a real thing. The esophagus thing. That's a thing that could happen,
and it's not whatever Anne Marie said is like, oh, you just have
to chew your food harder. That's not true. Like half of what she's
saying is just total bullshit. Okay, well I agree with you, but
I don't. I think something's weird about Sutton. So how comes Sutton and
make all these accusations about Kyle where she doesn't know? But the second somebody
is like, so you're saying that you can take Gaba penton and drink at
the same time, She's like, I take my pills for my whatever.
And then she's like the Gaba Penton has nothing to do with I have have
neuropathy, like she always seems to have something new. She's on all these
pills, and Anne Marie's like, well, I mean it doesn't mix with
alcohol. I think it's kind of bullshit that something's like, no, my
doctor says I can drink. I seriously doubt it. I agree with you
completely, but I also think it's inappropriate that an Marie is even having this
conversation. Yes, Anne Marie is wants to be on the show and wants
to get herself a storyline going. It's not that different than anything anybody else
has been doing. I think what people are reacting to, and you included,
are like, who the fuck are you, Anne Marie. You're barely
on the show. You're just new this season, Like take it down a
notch, settle settle in and see what happens and see how you can involve
yourself, which I get. But I also from the standpoint of being on
TV, I can see why she thinks like coming in hot is going to
help her, and I probably will as a housewife. I do get that,
but like going in for someone, even though I cannot stand Sutton,
but going in for her like medical stuff or even her addiction stuff like you
don't even know her relax. Agree, Yeah, that was that was surprising
because as much as I don't like Sutton, I was like, wow,
we found someone to make me actually side with her for eight minutes. Yeah,
I can see that. I just I just wasn't liking Sutton, and
I was like, well, I mean, you don't need to be questioning
her about her esophagus, but I don't know, is it just me?
It seemed the whole esophagus thing also seems fishy to me, so maybe I
was like, well, I'm glad someone's saying something. It's a real thing
though I don't have it, but I know people that have had this issue.
I believe her, but I do think she has an issue at the
same time, so we're all look, we all love each other. Things
can be correct. Yeah, yes, yes, So she's memory is trying
to do this like I'm just a cave trying to do this caveman lawyer thing,
right, Like I don't know, I'm just an anesthesia just nurse,
but I do know this people with a small esophagus, well, you know,
right, and now she knows everything about every medication and exactly what you're
whatever, whatever, Okay, So then how does it end? I mean,
that's pretty much how I have it. Like, you know, Sutton
just gets real mad, big mad about this, and she's like, well,
do you want to cut my brother gets his esophagus stretched. I guess
they both have the small esophaguses. Esopha guy. It also made me esopha
guy. It also made me laugh when Erica said the thing about was like,
I don't think it's I don't think she's not getting second dates. Now
we know why she doesn't get second dates, because remember the whole thing is
like, yeah, I just don't know why God doesn't ask me. And
then it shows her in like a weird cat sweater that she wore on a
date. I don't think it's the cat sweater, so I think we got
it's the small throat. Yes I know, but I'm just like, I
just don't love it when Erica makes everything some kind of crazy sex joke either.
But that's just who she is, Stephanie. I know, I loving
her so much? What changed in me? See this is the problem.
It's like, you need people. You need people on that wall, right,
you need people, right? We want people on that wall because otherwise
the show's boring. But at the same time, it's like it does have
to have some feeling of authenticity, yes, or you're just like you're just
trying to have a storyline. It's so interesting. I'm looking at the comments,
by the way, on just a sight about all this. People do
have a lot to say. My god, uh, this one. I
mean a lot of people are coming for Sutton here. Actually, oh really,
this one person cuckoo for cocoa puff. It's not read it though,
right as it was spring a. Leen's No, it's on New York Magazine.
Oh or Vulture. Okay, Kim lives on her own planet. Glad
she's enjoying painting the walls. These are just like little nugget like little thoughts.
Uh huh. This is cucka for cocoa pups. Erica never showed an
ounce of empathy for the victims of her husband's crimes at any stage, and
deserves no redemption, much less of residency. That's interesting, not wrong.
I get a Kyle needs real intensive therapy off camera. Agree one hundred percent
agree your spouse calling you an eight point five is a massive insult and way
more condescending than number two point which is questioning someone else's medical condition publicly and
at their own event. No less is condescending and rude, regardless of your
medical knowledge or lack thereof. Uh huh. And then they're sighting with Sutton
here saying alimony money is your own money, period, just so they're saying
it's not her. I mean, I guess that's true. Who's it was
given to her? I don't know. I guess just people like us,
Well, what are they saying about Sutton? That's not right? Even said
in this episode, like we'll stop talking about how I'm so proud of myself.
I opened a business that people are saying like myself, like you get
three hundred thousand dollars a month from your ex husband, right, And somebody's
pointing out, well, yeah, that's her money. She's still doing something
good with it. I guess I think it'd be better at a savings than
in a store that she's not going to make any money off of. But
that's just me. I mean, even Kyle couldn't afford to have her store
in Beverly Hills, I know, and she's got a lot more like Traction.
You know, Yeah, I went to that store once. Remember what
it's called but anyway, all right, well that's a lot. Yeah,
we're going to cover this show until this season's done, right, because we're
waiting for Joey to start. Oh and we have some exciting news on our
first episode of Joey. We're going to have the two women from Two Black
Girls, One Rose on our show. Yeah, we're very excited about this
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Hills Girls Trip, not Beverly Hill Girls. Okay, all right, time
for some shout outs. Take it, take it, Cecily, Okay,
I'm gonna do it as set and I guess Okay, I'm gonna have my
esophaget stretched with Don Lee and Kessie Wildsworth and Sarah Baker and Jenny Harden and
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pay, and it will appear in your driveway with all the paperwork done.
I'm telling you this guy's great. He got us RTG one. I swear
by him. His phone numbers three one zero nine nine eight seven zero four
eight and last, but not least, our friend Nancy Buckenham. She has
an Etsy store. It's etsy dot com slash shop slash n Buckenham Designs spelled
b uck e n Ham Designs and tell us what she sells. Oh sorry,
I was for a second. She sells toats and journals. These like
mugs, like travel mugs and towels and everything has original artwork printed on them.
And it's really really cool stuff. It's really really interesting and unique and
makes such good gifts. Yes, and the holidays are fast approaching, So
get on that right now and support a fellow prick. You know, why
wouldn't you? All right, we thank you name, Name them name,
Thanks for being here, guys. Bye bye