WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:07.280 This it's to two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. If you kind of 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:09.560 look deeper at the situation, you know, which I'm sure you will, 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.919 because everything that we go through is an experience that we learned from. And 4 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:17.320 Justin Burke, I come right in. I am very sneaky about it. 5 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.480 You'll be talking to someone and I'll just come in and sit at my desk 6 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:28.559 and just bust one out real quick. It is the sixth though, February 7 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:33.359 twenty twenty four. My name is Corey Winfield, Justin Burke, and this 8 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:37.920 is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. Justine, you're becoming a regular. I 9 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.679 know you can add this to your list of duties and your job title. 10 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:45.520 I think it's been there for like a month or so now. Yeah, 11 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:49.079 because we try to do one at least once a week. So if Martin's 12 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:54.119 the co host, you just being like another co host I'm guessing, or 13 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.520 a guest, because you're not too much to be a guest anymore. Right, 14 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:02.039 and your your name is in the open, right, so all right, 15 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:07.079 welcome, thanks another co host. Yeah. Yeah, as you can 16 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:12.239 hear the two seventeen Recovery Center door bell Ringing. That's where we're at the 17 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:19.400 North Studio today and justin we were just talking about going over responsibilities and things 18 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.599 that you don't want to do that you have to do, and how goals 19 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.519 change. Yeah, because you had some goals planning for yourself this year and 20 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:30.599 we went over those. But they have to change. Yeah. IRS kind 21 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:36.560 of helps that. Yeah. With no lube, yeah, and getting your 22 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:41.519 taxes in order and all that. It's it's a scary, be frustrating. 23 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:46.480 You want to add something else to that. Too much money to spend to 24 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.760 have someone help you with it, yeah, Yeah, so it's like, 25 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.560 Okay, I know I owe the IRS whatever, But on top of that, 26 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.760 yeah, like you said, you're paying a ton of money for other 27 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:57.359 people to just try to help you figure it out and try to get you 28 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:02.000 in the right pace. And we've all heard those commercials on TV or heard 29 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.319 them on the radio and see them on TV where they're like, you all 30 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.479 the IRS money, don't pay them, let us figure it out, blah 31 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:09.360 blah blah blah blah. And then you call them and then they're like, 32 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.639 okay, well before we figure anything out, you got to pay me a 33 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.759 bunch of money. Yeah. Five hundred bucks the one I chose, and 34 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.159 that's just to get the information to do their little investigation that they're going to 35 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.840 do, and then it's a bunch more money for them to actually do the 36 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:29.240 work. Did you tell them that you're going to need to see like a 37 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:34.000 time sheet? Yeah, they sent me one with my payment schedule, and 38 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:38.680 they said they'll submit it like around the first of August, because my final 39 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:44.199 payment won't be until July sixteenth, just to pay them. Yeah, damn. 40 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.120 But I want I want to see how many hours they're working on it. 41 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.879 Yeah, Like I want to see how many hours you put in on 42 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.599 this. So they're like, I spent like ten minutes on I just sent 43 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.360 submit something to the government. Well I do have like three or four years. 44 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.479 I dident file taxes too, so it's like four hundred bucks a year. 45 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.080 Now. You couldn't do any of this on your own. Well, 46 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:08.840 I probably could, but I don't have the information. Why don't you pay 47 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:14.120 me? You can pay me, I should have, but but you just 48 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:20.719 calculate numbers. So where's in the favor. Let's not do that. Let's 49 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:25.879 not do that today, got all your asses? Yeah, let's just leave 50 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.960 that work. But I'm just gonna leave it to the professionals, you know, 51 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:35.840 just let them deal with it. Hmm. I really don't have time 52 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.439 on top of it. Well, I'm a professional. I could do it 53 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:40.280 for you. Yeah, because you were telling me like you can't find because 54 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:44.680 I was helping you find the EI in number for the businesses that you used 55 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.080 to work at. Yeah, and you're like, you can't just google it, 56 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.719 you can't just find it online, And then I would it take me 57 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.800 a couple of minutes, five minutes. But the EI numbers that you found 58 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:58.599 online through Laura are different than what the Federal IRS has or an EI in 59 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:03.520 number, Yes, sir, than there are different places I cross reference. 60 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:09.080 I don't believe you because you couldn't even find it. And those are those 61 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:12.240 are from the state of Michigan, which your EI in number. That's it, 62 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.199 like two seventeen recovery, we just had one. But some of those 63 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:16.160 places that I was like, was it this one? Was that one? 64 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:17.920 And I picked the one that was in Travers City because you said, like, 65 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.519 for example, the autow wash place. Yeah, there was like four 66 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:23.639 names for them, two of them were in Travers City, so it could 67 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:28.399 it be the other one? Probably maybe, who knows. I don't know. 68 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.000 But I did give you some numbers, and so you were telling me 69 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.120 it was impossible to even get those. Yeah, So I'm just saying I 70 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.240 could help you with your taxes. Just give me fifty five hundred dollars. 71 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.000 You're gonna deal with the RS for me, Yop, sign power of attorney 72 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.839 over to you. Yep, I got you. I'll do it. I'll 73 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.279 use my new Apple computer that I want to buy with your money. Oh, 74 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:55.279 it's going to pay it off in a year, So just give me 75 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.040 that money by July. Run on schedule should be good. No. But 76 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.959 in all seriousiness, though, you have to take care of these things. 77 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:08.120 And it's not the funnest thing to do. No, it's horrible really sometimes 78 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.040 and it feels like it. But in a year from now, when this 79 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:16.560 shit's taken care of, you're gonna have a huge sigh of relief and you're 80 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.959 not gonna let it slip anymore, and you're gonna take care of your stuff. 81 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:21.439 And that's part of growing up, and that's part of being in recovery 82 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.279 and making that change, because if you just wanted to just let it keep 83 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.759 going on how it's always been going on. Eventually it will catch up to 84 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.319 you, just like everything else in life. So to let it build up 85 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.680 and build up isn't the way to go, but to face it, to 86 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:42.439 do some stuff you don't want to do. But in the end it's gonna 87 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:46.879 pay off. Because we know, like most governishments can only do what like 88 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.319 twenty five percent of your check. I don't think the IRS necessarily has a 89 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:55.519 limit on how much taken garnish here checks from what my uncle told me when 90 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:01.360 he had back tax issues of failure to pay the RS or something because his 91 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:06.759 ex wife was doing his taxes and he ended up working like for free one 92 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:14.959 whole year because he garnished like his whole paycheck. Damn. I don't know 93 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:17.600 the rules of that. I should, though, since I'm officially taking on 94 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:24.000 your case, but don't worry about it. So just his horror story of 95 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:28.759 the IRS and putting it off. And I logged down there because I was 96 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:32.199 digging into my taxes to figure out what I had to do. And when 97 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.959 you go to their website and you log in, I had a nice pretty 98 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:42.360 banner across the top of my page that said we're about to seize and levy 99 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:46.680 all your accounts and sees all your assets, which granted I have no assets, 100 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.120 but because I'm paying for a car I bought from a buy here, 101 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:58.319 pay here place fabulous, which isn't quite so fabulous, but you know, 102 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:03.079 so I have no assets. But if I lose all my monthly income due 103 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:06.720 to the IRS garnishing me, I have no vehicle to get back and forth 104 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:13.879 to work, can't afford eat, you know, and man, yeah, 105 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:19.600 all that fun stuff. Yeah, but now that you're taking the bowl by 106 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:24.720 the horns and so they say, and then you can get it done and 107 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.319 do the stuff that you need to. What were we also talking about? 108 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.639 And I was like, hold on, let's save that for the podcast. 109 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.319 Oh yeah, oh our new addition to the office. Yeah. I notice 110 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.480 you and Marni have nice name plaques. Yeah, we do. And I 111 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:42.720 remember last March when we came and looked, well, we looked at the 112 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:46.000 place last February, almost a year ago. Yeah, yeah, and we 113 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:48.519 got it in March, and you're like, yeah, we're all gonna have 114 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:57.279 name plaques. And someone hung art around my door, so there's no room 115 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:01.240 for a name plaque, which I think was on purpose. What No, 116 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:07.160 I like the place to look nice and have art. And the one is 117 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:13.600 very controversial, the one that's over by you. It has the they were 118 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.639 sex workers and they were getting a line tattooed across their back. Yep. 119 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:28.959 And this artist who's way out there and very out there, let's just say, 120 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:37.600 he gave them enough money to go buy Heroin if they would get a 121 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.519 line tattooed across their back, and they did it, And that, to 122 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.000 me, that shows how powerful addiction is and what people are willing to do. 123 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.840 And it has the whole story about the guy and all that. I 124 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.000 have a QR code. People can scan it right on our wall. Yeah. 125 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.399 I read the story. I just don't remember. It looks pretty cool 126 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:56.559 though. It does right outside your office, and your office is kind of 127 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.679 in the back, because I wanted to put that up front, but I 128 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.480 figure a lot of people would just see, go what is this and they 129 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.600 wouldn't scan it. That's over there where people actually have to walk over and 130 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.559 look at it and go, oh, what's this? Right? So that's 131 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:11.840 that's that. And then the other one is the picture of all of us, 132 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.080 but not you. I don't think you're in the other one, are 133 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.440 you? No? No? Because you were too busy, that was staying 134 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:24.039 somewhere else. Yeah, and we went to you fam rally like two years 135 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.559 ago and that's a picture from there. Yep, very important picture. It's 136 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:33.679 a great time that we had. It was and we drove the ats van 137 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.679 mobile unit down and that has two seventeen Recovery on it, which was very 138 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:46.080 awesome when we were doing like outreach at the shelter here. And it's a 139 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.879 very important piece right by your office and you just act like you don't care. 140 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:54.320 You really have your name plaque up there and then you say, well, 141 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:01.279 you can just throw it on the door. Yeah, like ours is 142 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.600 like mounted on the wall like outside of our doors. I think that looks 143 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:09.519 looks great, but you're there's no room for you and Adams has you filled 144 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.159 it with art? Yeah, but I mean who needs to know where your 145 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:20.120 office is at? I guess being the transportation director really doesn't matter. Yeah, 146 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:24.559 Like who comes here to see the transportation director? Not too many people. 147 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.039 But I get a lot of emails. Yeah, you do have an 148 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:33.559 email that says to seventeen Recovery. Yeah, yeah, just email Justin at 149 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.919 two seventeen recovery dot com. Please do send them a name plaque picture. 150 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:46.200 No, but we'll see. Maybe I got some surprises coming for you that 151 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:50.480 you just don't know about. I hope, I hope it's that nice corner 152 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:56.759 office. You do have a oh that we talked about. It was yeah, 153 00:10:56.840 --> 00:11:01.480 yesterday and our couple of your plan. Yeah, got a dream big, 154 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:07.200 man, got a dream big. A lot of people have a hard 155 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:11.840 time with that, and in early recovery it's I don't want to say dangerous 156 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:18.559 to dream big, because I don't think it is. It's dangerous to dream 157 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.480 something that's unrealistic. Like if I was like in treatment, I'm like, 158 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.240 you know what, I want to be the fastest man in the world, 159 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:30.480 and I'm going to practice that running, right, that would be horrible. 160 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:35.039 First, I hate running, m and I would never be the fastest person 161 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.240 in the world. That's just stupid. That's unachievable. Oh, with God, 162 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.960 you can do everything and anything. God has his limits, you know, 163 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:48.519 like like you have to put in the work bill to get it. 164 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.960 Yeah, And God would also say that's not my plan for you. Yea. 165 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.960 I didn't build you to be the fastest person in the world. Corey, 166 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:01.399 you know, stop it. That's why you don't like running I was 167 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.320 going to make you a professional ice cream taster, but you get carried away, 168 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:13.039 right. Diabetes took me over. Yeah, it would. I used 169 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.440 to think that I could eat all the ice cream I wanted in one sitting 170 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.480 because your body would flush out all the rest of it, kind of like 171 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.919 if I was drinking, you know, your body would just shut down. 172 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:24.919 Eventually you would pass out, you know, because yourbody can't get rid of 173 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.039 the alcohol. And then I thought, but that would work the same, 174 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.399 Like I would eat all this ice cream, but none of the calories were 175 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.279 count because your body can only do so much and it would just flush the 176 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:37.279 rest of it out. Makes sense. Yeah, But then like I heard 177 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.399 about like diabetic coma, and I was like, oh, yeah, probably 178 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.200 that would happen first. Yeah, I don't know, That's probably why I 179 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.600 would pass out. So yeah, it wasn't a good idea. But that 180 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.960 was back in my early early recovery days when I had like three four months 181 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.320 clean. I thought that was a good idea, right, But sudden obtainable 182 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:03.240 goals to reach bigger goals is well worth it in recovery, Yeah, it 183 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.240 really is. And by obtainable goals, I mean like baby steps to reach 184 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:13.360 something bigger that we want to get to. Think Marty and I were talking 185 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.480 about the other day, or maybe you and I were talking about that last 186 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.360 podcast that we did about like, if you have a goal and you want 187 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.320 to do something, you know you got to figure out, Okay, well 188 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.759 here's what I want to do. How am I going to get there? 189 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:26.960 You know? With me and I brought this up millions of times, I'm 190 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.240 going to make a movie. Well, first I want to buy a book 191 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:33.679 on how to write a script. Yeah, you just talked about this on 192 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:37.720 Saturday. Yeah, So like you have to set those things up and then 193 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.360 guess what you're going to be surprised about all the other stuff you have to 194 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.480 do. And it was like when I started the nonprofit. When I first 195 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:48.440 I started the business, I had to do that went down to the courthouse 196 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:52.159 and I went to some department of that I can't remember what it was, 197 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.240 but I had to like get like a permit or a license or something. 198 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.120 I had to register my business with the county. That's what I had to 199 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:01.120 do. And it was like fifty team bucks or something. And from there 200 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:07.600 then I could go on. I already had my end number, but then 201 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.799 I had to do like a couple other things, and I had to register 202 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:11.480 it with the state and blah blah blah. But there are different steps that 203 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:18.279 you have to do to achieve your goal. And then I would look online 204 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.519 and I have to do this, and I have to do that, And 205 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.759 it was just a steady and like, right when I would get to the 206 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.440 point where I can move forward with this, nope, now you got to 207 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:30.480 get incorporated Jesus. Now you need this. Now you need that number. 208 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.120 I'm like, oh my god, I don't have that number. But those 209 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.399 are the things I had to do. And it wasn't overnight, like you 210 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.600 said. It was kind of piecing it together and moving forward. So if 211 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:45.759 you can have patience, a clear mind of kind of what you want, 212 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.840 and the determination to figure out what you need to do to get there and 213 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.320 to go do those things you need to do to get there. But you 214 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.559 can do a lot of different things though, and people will say you can 215 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:03.600 do anything. Yeah, some things, but yeah, I didn't just pray 216 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.960 to God. I'm like, let the stuff work out. No, I 217 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.279 pray, please Lord, let me get paid one day, but let me 218 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.039 help people, you know. And like when I would pray on the way 219 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:18.039 to help Pina. For example, to go to Sunrise to take somebody or 220 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:20.519 pick somebody up. You know, there's a two and a half hour trip 221 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.440 where I'm by myself, you know, and I would be praying, like, 222 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.120 Lord, I don't know when I'm gonna get paid, but boy, 223 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.480 it sure would be nice to have a paycheck, you know, Like, 224 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.200 I don't know how much longer we can do this, but as long as 225 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.360 I can help people, Lord, and get them to their next stop and 226 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:46.240 get them on their on their way and shut some some inspiration, share some 227 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:50.480 hope with them from my journey and my battles with alcohol, then perfect. 228 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:56.559 It's gonna be great, you know. And just keep me in mind because 229 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.279 the rent's gonna be due again. I remember those because I was hounding you 230 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.919 for a job. You're like, yeah, that's funny, and you're laugh 231 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.080 at me. I'm like, no, being serious, You're like, well 232 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:14.360 maybe one day, Like we just kept sitting back and waiting and like, 233 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.120 it does really work, but you have to work for it. Like it 234 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.960 wasn't just handed to you, no, not by any means. You had 235 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.679 an idea and you put forth the effort to get to it, you know, 236 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.840 and like, I remember watching a movie. You may watched it when 237 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:37.759 you're growing up, where the Red Fern Grows. Now. It was about 238 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:42.360 this little boy who wanted coon hunting dogs, and he asked his grandpa how 239 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:45.799 to get him and he said, well, God's only going to do so 240 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.840 much for you, but you have to meet him halfway. And this boy 241 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:55.039 worked day and night doing whatever he could do to save up money to get 242 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.879 his coon dogs. But he actually put forth to working effort to be able 243 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.519 to get to it, and he ended up getting two through dogs. Throughout 244 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:07.960 the movie, it was nice. That is pretty much what has to happen 245 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.680 sometimes, and that's exactly what I did. And you know, I didn't 246 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.119 give up. I was discouraged a lot. But even when we were told, 247 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.359 hey, you know, you guys are gonna be funded to do transportation, 248 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:21.000 you know, it's like all right. I remember I was telling you 249 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:22.119 about it, and I was like, but I don't know when, And 250 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.519 that was frustrating as how. And it's like just hanging there, man, 251 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:33.079 like some that's coming. I can feel it. I was told it's coming, 252 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.200 I don't know when, and it's just frustrating sometimes, but you can't 253 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.119 give up. And if it's anything worth doing, is gonna be hard, 254 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:45.880 yes, And whether it's hard mentally, emotionally, physically, there's gonna be 255 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:51.759 some kind of pushback to what you're wanting and what you're going after. And 256 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.400 when that pushback comes, can you take it? Are you gonna wilt under 257 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.839 the pressure or you're gonna bounce back and do even better and learn from that 258 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.240 pushback? Then Okay, well that's not the way to do that. But 259 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.519 here's here's the way I could go with it. I mean, it just 260 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:11.480 happens every day in life. Everything doesn't go your way all the time. 261 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:15.720 Like there's easy roads and hard roads, you know. I mean, you 262 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.960 can take the easy road, but that thing's gonna get hard eventually and get 263 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.880 really hard and end you up in trouble ninety percent of the time, you 264 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:27.720 know, especially in our background of addiction, like it will. But we 265 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:32.599 take the hard road in the beginning, that thing turns pretty easy after we 266 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.960 start taking the steps to work around ourselves, Like it really does. I 267 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:40.880 used to explain it to people all the time and treatment, and then when 268 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:45.599 I worked in the jails for a while talking to people, I'm like, 269 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.759 yeah, you're all in here because you took the easy road. Well, 270 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.559 like straight up, you guys took the easy road in life. The hard 271 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.599 road would have been going and getting the job, saving up money to do 272 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.839 things the right way. But no, we wanted to go out and sell 273 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:06.039 dope and do this and that. But that's the easy road. And we 274 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:07.720 know what the easy road gets us. It gets us raight back here. 275 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.960 The hard road, learning about ourselves and everything else. It is hard. 276 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:17.480 It's mentally draining, it's physically draining some days, but it gets better. 277 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:22.400 And when you can look back and realize you did things the right way and 278 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.559 you're kind of proud of what you did. Like when I look back at 279 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:26.279 the stuff that I had to do, you know, I'm proud of it. 280 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.119 That just this weekend, you know, because some people will look at 281 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.079 me who don't know me, and they're like, oh, this guy's just 282 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:36.759 all to seventeen recovery. They just like to have fun recovery. That's whatever 283 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.599 they do. Nothing stupid. He's just you know, given all this stuff, 284 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:44.000 and he was given a building and he was giving my phones. No 285 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:47.960 I wasn't. I wasn't wasn't given any chance. But a lot of people 286 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:49.960 don't understand that. And there's a gentleman here over the weekend when I was 287 00:19:49.960 --> 00:19:53.880 here and Mitch was talking to him, and he's like, yeah, I 288 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.799 met Corey. You know, Corey gave me a ride to treatment. And 289 00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:00.680 then she's like, oh, it was like last April or something. He 290 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.079 was like, nah, it was like three years ago, you know, 291 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.799 just like what he was like, Yeah, he was like back then, 292 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.039 Corey just had the podcast and you know, he was giving people rides in 293 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.839 his own vehicle. And Mitch was like, oh, but I heard Mitch 294 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.559 kind of like it was kind of surprised Mitch even, you know, and 295 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.000 Mitch works here, you know, but I don't run around telling Mitch all 296 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:23.200 the stuff that I did and this and that, you know, because that's 297 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:27.000 kind of pointless. But at the same time, it was kind of funny 298 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:32.559 to hear him like, well, what three years ago, Yeah, yeah, 299 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.000 that's how long Corey's been doing this, you know. And now coming 300 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:42.519 up on a year just about of when we started like really putting things in 301 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.839 motion and hiring people, and when we were able to hire people to do 302 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.759 transportation rides, you know, and I could work on actually building the company 303 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:55.480 out a little bit more and moving us forward in different directions. So it's 304 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.319 exciting and it's scary at the same time. But I'm I'm gonna do all 305 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:03.160 that can to to make that happen, right, you know, And I 306 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.200 think it'll be nice. Marnie's going to be around a lot more. I 307 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.119 can't wait. I know that's it's gonna be awesome. And then we have 308 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.400 a little child on away, little sun coming in May, which is crazy. 309 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:19.400 It's gonna blow my mind. So there's a lot of changes and a 310 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:25.240 lot of things that I'm not even going to see coming good and bad, 311 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.599 right, you know. But just to be blessed to be here today, 312 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.680 I mean that that's crazy. You know. We could both be dead right 313 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.880 now. We could have made I mean, it could have been easy for 314 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.400 both of us to be dead. And I'm sure you tried just as just 315 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:42.920 start as I tried in my active views, you know, because you hit 316 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.359 that point like what's there left to live for? Yeah? I was talking 317 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:52.799 at Detox today and I was telling them that at one point I was drinking 318 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:56.000 because the doctor has told me, if you first they say hey, you 319 00:21:56.119 --> 00:22:00.920 drink again, your liver isn't going to process the alcohol like it did, 320 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:03.920 like it's gonna take forever. It's gonna hurt and it's gonna be painful, 321 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:10.559 and you're gonna feel sick, and it could seize up and it's not coming 322 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:12.240 back on if it does, like you got lucky with it coming back on 323 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:17.160 this time, like, don't push it. And I still pushed it. 324 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.079 And I remember thinking, well, I've lived a pretty good life. You 325 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:22.640 know. I was on the radio and I met some people, did some 326 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.519 things that were really cool. And for me to think a job makes you 327 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:32.839 who you are, that's stupid, Like a job made me have a good 328 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:34.480 life. No, no, no, I didn't even know what life was, 329 00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:38.119 man. I had spent twenty years just walking through it drunk. And 330 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.119 to think that, oh, because I met some famous people, that I 331 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.200 know what life's about and that I had a good life when I had never 332 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:52.359 been married, right, I never had children, Like that's what life's about, 333 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:59.759 building relationships with people and learning how to deal with life, you know, 334 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:04.759 but getting married and having a child on the way, that's what life's 335 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.000 about, man, you know. Helping other people. Yeah, that was 336 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.200 about to say, getting involved in your own community that you live in, 337 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:18.480 to pay it forward from our life lessons learned, Like we volunteer at the 338 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:25.240 homeless shelter on the weekends to show them that it is possible to live a 339 00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:30.799 better life and guide them through how to obtain it. You know, I 340 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.440 don't want to say we're going to do work for them, but guide them, 341 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:37.680 give them phone numbers, because they have to want it just as much 342 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.279 as we want it for them. Somebody sent me some over the weekend too, 343 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:47.200 and it said it was like this Ai voice. It was on TikTok 344 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.799 or something, and it was like, you know, in one hundred years 345 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.559 from now, in twenty one to twenty four, the house that you live 346 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.119 in, someone else will live in that, and all the stuff that you 347 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:00.880 bought and don't be thrown away and blah blah blah, nobody will remember you. 348 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.880 And for the most part that could be true. And then it got 349 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.079 to the point where your descendants won't even know who you are. And that's 350 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.039 when I stopped it. It was like nope. And I kind of got 351 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.240 this from Steve Harvey, who a lot of people are hating on with Kat 352 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.319 Williams, saying he stole his jokes and all that stuff. But he says 353 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.799 some stuff sometimes it inspires me and that's all it really matters. But he 354 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.440 was saying that he wanted to be the person that when he's dead and gone 355 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.200 and his great great grandkids come walking through the house and there's a picture of 356 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:30.680 him on the wall and they're like, who's that And they're like, that's 357 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:34.240 your great great great grandpa Steve Harvey and this is what he did, and 358 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.519 this is what he came for and this is what he did. Blah blah 359 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.119 blah. And I want that same kind of thing, you know, I 360 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.559 want to be able to change my life for the better, to have, 361 00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:48.839 you know, my great great grandchildren walk through and see a cool lass picture 362 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.680 of my sexy little face and be like, who's that sexy monster beast And 363 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.200 they'd be like, Oh, that's your great great great grandpa Corey Winfield. 364 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:03.160 He was about dead and the gutter and change his life around and gave all 365 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:07.400 the credit to God because he said he couldn't have done it himself. And 366 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.039 yeah, he started this thing and it helped people and it was amazing. 367 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:17.279 Yeah, he was voted like the Who's Who of Traverse City or something something 368 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:22.519 I don't even know. Plaques outside it's in the front office. But and 369 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.240 then that one the who's who or the other thing. It's like, Okay, 370 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.160 that's cool. I didn't want to hang it up, but I did. 371 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.680 But those are the things that we can do, you know. To 372 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:37.960 hell, that's just all we can do in life, you know, I 373 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.599 think that that might be the whole point of life, is like what can 374 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.440 you do to make make it better for other people? And I don't know 375 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.160 how to build cell phones, I don't know how to do technology stuff. 376 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:53.200 But I pulled myself out of the gutter with alcoholism and drugs and addictions. 377 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.640 So that can help a lot of people, right, And if I just 378 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.279 have one person, that's cool. But I think I've helped at least two, 379 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.279 right, So you just have to look at it like that, and 380 00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:07.200 what can you do? That's what I can do. And yeah, we 381 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.519 all die, like we'll all be forgotten at some point, you know, 382 00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.160 like it is what it is. But this is what I can do now, 383 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.119 and this is how I can move myself forward in the little time that 384 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.279 we do have here, you know, and to really I don't want to 385 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.680 say make up for lost time, but because a lot of a lot of 386 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.440 us feel that way, like oh, I wasted twenty years. Can't do 387 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.440 nothing about that. No, you know, just appreciate the time you do 388 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.599 have. Especially Toby Keith just died yesterday. Well, you know, I 389 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.119 was talking to my father and that's what he said. Yeah, he's like, 390 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.440 you know Toby Keith that. I'm like, no, He's like, 391 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.519 it's all over the news, all over here. I guess he has stomach 392 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.599 cancer a couple of years ago, and then he got feeling better. He 393 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.319 wasn't gonna go back out on tour. Yeah, he released a tour schedule 394 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.519 and then got sick again and just died in the middle of the night, 395 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.119 like really fast. I guess. So don't drink out of red Solo cup 396 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:06.960 exactly. It's just to make cancer. And we know what's maybe legendly that 397 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.039 gives you all kinds of cancer, and not that that's what caused that. 398 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.599 But dude, I have stomach problems. And I heard that. I'm like, 399 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:17.000 oh, because no, knock on Munson, But this might sound like 400 00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.920 a knock on Munson, because maybe it is. But I don't trust that 401 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.160 they found what's wrong with my stomach, and it still hurts all the damn 402 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:26.559 time, and I just wonder, you know, because all the stuff. 403 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.440 Of course you google stuff, you get who knows what. But it freaks 404 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.839 me out because they're like, oh, you know, it could be pancreatic 405 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.640 cancer, and the doctors they can never find it. It's really hard until 406 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.880 it's too late, right, But I'm telling them it hurts, and they're 407 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:41.559 just looking at me like, oh, well, you want some pills. 408 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.839 We're not doing that. And I'm like, I don't want pills. I 409 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.440 saw my stomach's not hurting. Maybe I ask your doctor to get a second 410 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.240 opinion from a totally different hospital system, go down to Fort Smith and have 411 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.240 them check it out for me. I think maybe you save my life once. 412 00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.440 Do it again because Fortsmoth, Arkansas they do have good medical stuff there, 413 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:06.400 or even you have on Yeah, but but then Priority Health really not 414 00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.559 my favorite insurance company. They'll be like, oh, well, you got 415 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.720 to have the cancer clause, have the cancer clause in there, and you 416 00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:18.880 don't have that, so we're not going to pay for any of that. 417 00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:22.599 I don't think we can really help with that. Was that the option? 418 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.200 Sarah Bush is calling me, you should pause the podcast. Okay, we're 419 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.039 pausing the podcast anyway. We're back after taking a call from Sarah Bush. 420 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.880 That was wonderful, Yes, it was. It was a good call, 421 00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:42.599 and that was setting up a ride for somebody to come out of treatment across 422 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:47.400 the other side of the state. Yeah, that's what we do, you 423 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:52.519 know, even in the middle of podcasts, answer the phone sometimes now and 424 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:55.079 I have no idea what we were talking about before, but I'm sure it 425 00:28:55.119 --> 00:29:00.279 was really good and insightful. Yeah. But I don't know how much gond 426 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.759 and keep you here off the clock because you're but in a long day today. 427 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:10.440 I always have long days. I'm used to it anymore. All Right, 428 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.519 Well, we're gonna work on your commercial this week, hopefully mitches. 429 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.759 Facebook took it down, and so did Instagram. I guess their own bout 430 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.440 the same people. Yeah, because they said that I was selling counterfeit product, 431 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.759 selling counterfeit products, which there is no I'm not selling anything. We 432 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:32.640 just made a spoof video. Wow. Yeah. But they can sell fake 433 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.599 car hurt stuff on Facebook. Yeah, And they can have like fake people 434 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.160 make fake accounts and me report them every day and then nothing happens about that. 435 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.599 And then these sweet Adidas shoes I see and I showed you. Yeah, 436 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.880 I couldn't even find on the Adida's website. But they're brand new twenty 437 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.319 twenty four Adidas, but nowhere on their website. They were at and then 438 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.960 you told me they were Nikes. Actually yeah, yeah, the name was 439 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.759 actually a Nike name. Yeah, thanks for book. Appreciate you. Yeah, 440 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.839 I told them that I didn't appreciate Mark Zuckerberg and I didn't appreciate their 441 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:11.680 bots. I think I'm gonna switch over to X. Yeah. I don't 442 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:12.799 really like that either, but they didn't take the stock. I don't know 443 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.359 if I put on X. I did dip my toe in the water. 444 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.640 TikTok Ooh yeah, I put Mitch's video on there. Nice. Yeah, 445 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.079 if you haven't seen Mitch's video, it's also on our app, which is 446 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.680 a free app which you can check out to seventeen recovery dot com if you 447 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.680 need a link for it, or just go in the app store Google Play 448 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:36.799 Store to seventeen Recovery download it. But then you go to the video section, 449 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.200 which is on the very right of the screen when you get the app, 450 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:45.279 watch videos. Quite a few videos on there, nice and just about 451 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:51.440 every single podcast we have done since twenty nineteen. So yeah, lots to 452 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.839 listen to and lots of cool stuff to check out. But the video is 453 00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:03.359 inspired by a real story that happened from Mitchell and buy commercial for Blue d 454 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.119 Chanelle or something like that. Yeah, but I saw and I thought, 455 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:14.839 this is ridiculous. This Colone commercial is absolutely ridiculous. I would never buy 456 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.039 this clone just because this commercial is so stupid. And then they sent me 457 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:21.519 some smellers in the mail and I smelled it and I said, damn, 458 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.920 that's good. I'm gonna get me some of that. I'm already got it 459 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.720 for me for Christmas, So that was good. Yeah, after you say 460 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.240 you're not gonna buy it, and you buy it anyways, after you smell 461 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.480 the product. M Now I'm telling you guys about the commercial, and we're 462 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:36.359 like just laughing our asses off. And I had messed up and said to 463 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.960 Ude was wearing a Jeene jacket. She was, It was like a leather 464 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.000 jacket. But that made the story even funnier. When I was telling the 465 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.440 story about it and he's wearing his little Jeane jacket and the guys are like 466 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.960 a Geene jacket, I'm like, oh no, a leather jacket. But 467 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:55.440 still, and then Mitch he's already like planning his second fragrance. Yeah. 468 00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.160 Yeah, first one is called Bear b a r E and that's a play 469 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:08.039 on blue, which they spell b l eu, so we spell Bear b 470 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:13.559 a r E even though it's supposed to be b e a r y or 471 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:17.759 is it. It's a puzzle for everyone to figure out. But he's already 472 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.920 doing his next one, and he wants to call it black. I don't 473 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:28.240 even want to spoil it, but there might be a gene jacket involved that 474 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.640 I'm going to buy him with my own money. Yeah, because I think 475 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:37.039 Mitchell looked great. And a jean jacket one size. He's always going to 476 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.359 want to go jacket off, No, for sure. Maybe that could be 477 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:49.960 the center of his Bear, just new product, jacket off. This is 478 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.759 like the fun that we have in recovery, and if we can laugh like 479 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:54.240 that, because this is For a lot of years I wasn't able to laugh, 480 00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:59.440 really no, And now to just sit back and do silly things and 481 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.880 and create silly things. It's fun, man, it really is. And 482 00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.079 that's why we do what we do. So that's why I'm glad I met 483 00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.039 you at the beginning of my recovery journey. Because it's been NonStop laughter ever 484 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.839 since. Yeah, I know sometimes you'd be laughing, but I'm not even 485 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.240 being funny. You're just laughing. I'm like, that's not funny, dude, 486 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.079 You're just dying laughing, And I'm like, no, it's not funny. 487 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.960 Yeah, but no, I'm glad that I met you too, and 488 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.440 when you were in early recovery and that you set some culture yourself and you 489 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.160 know, had some cosition, yeah, and some things you had to work 490 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.720 through, and it wasn't easy. It wasn't handed to you. It wasn't 491 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.279 overnight, no, you know of it. Like I've been keep climbing the 492 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:44.440 ladder after getting knocked down a couple of runs, and just I just haven't 493 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:46.440 let it discourage me, even like with this I RS stuff, you know, 494 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:50.039 like, well, it's life. I did it, you know, 495 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:55.599 and it all when it happened. If someone wasn't scandalous, but I just 496 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:00.240 have to pay for it, they'd be lying at the end of the tunnel 497 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.160 on the should making the right decisions and is it fun? Absolutely not, 498 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.519 but it's necessary and you need to do it. And Marnie's going to be 499 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:08.440 listening to this and say, well, Core it's time to get on those 500 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:14.599 student loan payments. Like, no, it's about I r S. Yeah, 501 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:20.159 I student loans too. I didn't realize how much money I got from 502 00:34:20.199 --> 00:34:25.440 student loans to keep using drugs. Why at the beginning of my meth phase. 503 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:34.920 Oh that was horrible, horrible decision. Yeah, like you have to 504 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:43.079 pay that money back, Like they'll take your federal tax return. Like they 505 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:51.280 have that power, do they? Well, they say they do. I 506 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.079 don't want you ass I don't want a person to luck. Yeah, I'll 507 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.760 look into it, but you know, I don't want to. Oh that's 508 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.559 what we're talking about. Toby Keith. Yeah, Tobey Keith and stomach canty, 509 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.519 stomach cancer. Yeah, because I don't even know what's going on with 510 00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:07.639 my stomach and all I know is hers and I should get a second opinion. 511 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.599 You're absolutely right. Yeah, it's a different part of the country or 512 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.599 the world anywhere, but here anything. Yeah, you get no disrespect. 513 00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.559 Like I'm just saying, Like when I had my stomach issues, I met 514 00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:23.079 with a doctor who said I had nothing wrong, and I went back to 515 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.599 my primary doctor. I'm like that doctor was full of crap. I'm like, 516 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.800 he says, I have nothing wrong. Well, why do I have 517 00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.159 heartburn every day? And I feel like I'm going to die but there's nothing 518 00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.639 wrong with me. And they sent me for another test and then went and 519 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.960 seen another specialist and he's like, well, you do got something wrong, 520 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.199 but we're not going to fix it right now. I'm like, this is 521 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.599 unacceptable, and I think a lot of it had to do was because I 522 00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:52.760 was on Medicaid. And then they referred me to another stomach doctor and then 523 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.360 he was like, you do have something seriously wrong. I don't fix this, 524 00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.360 You're going to die in the next like three years because my upper flapp 525 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.360 and my stomach didn't work and it was actually eating my esophagus. And he 526 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.760 figured within the next three years that would actually eat through my esophagus and I'd 527 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:16.079 be spilling stomach acid inside my body and just eating everything out, and like 528 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.960 I have a high pain tolerance. And he was like most people would be 529 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:24.719 keeled over in bed right now, and I'm like, well, I've lived 530 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:29.960 with it my whole life and just had to make do and still go to 531 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.960 work. I remember drinking bottle after bottle of pepto bismal, like I would 532 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:43.159 just drink the whole bottle. Yeah gross, Yeah, and yeah, I 533 00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:45.679 should be more proactive on the stomach thing, but I don't know. I 534 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:49.239 had to do so much for it already and I'm just like, they don't 535 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:54.719 care, and yeah, I don't know, you'll find one that does. 536 00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.000 I just got that faith, the same faith that you had when you start 537 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:06.119 did this company and everyone told you it was impossible start a nonprofit without an 538 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:10.239 attorney, a judge, and a lawyer, and well, I guess that 539 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.320 is an attorney. But they told me a police officer and like all these 540 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:15.760 people that I needed to have on my board. And I was like, 541 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.199 right, I don't know any of those people. And I looked into it 542 00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:22.320 myself and I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's not I 543 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.920 don't need that. So it is what it is. But got an event 544 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.920 coming up on the twenty ninth of this month that you're going to talk at. 545 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:35.719 It's the Recovery Stories Message of Hope Part two. Yep, you get 546 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:40.679 nervous a little bit, like I don't like clop crowds that I have to 547 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:45.639 speak in front of. But I've been thinking about my story quite a bit 548 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:52.800 because I'm doing the story portions. That's three three minutes. Yeah, so 549 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:57.320 are you going to be able to get to three minutes normally you've been doing 550 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.679 this in like thirty seconds. Well, we've had multiple things that we were 551 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.760 doing that day you were like three minutes, five minutes, and then like, 552 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.280 can you do it in thirty seconds? But I would like to work 553 00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.719 with it some more with you, and yeah, love to do that. 554 00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.639 And I know Rose who's going to be one of the storytellers too, she 555 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.400 had I saw her today and she's like, hey, text me. You 556 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.840 know, we'll get together and you have everybody get together and kind of do 557 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.519 that again and go over it and kind of get your story right. But 558 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:28.360 you're not supposed to write it down. You know, you can think about 559 00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:32.159 it, but don't write it down, and because it's more sincere that way, 560 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.320 and it's more like boom right, not reading from a script, and 561 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.400 just yeah, just keep going. If you mess up, just keep going, 562 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.719 yeah, because no one else will know. No one will know that 563 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.960 you messed up. Only you will know. And I'm like, oh, 564 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.400 I didn't mean to say that. I just keep going. You can be 565 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:53.519 like, oh I didn't mean to say that. Hold on, yeah, 566 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.840 and everybody knows. Then you just got to play it off right. Well, 567 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.519 let's get out of here. Thanks for joining the podcast, justin appreciate 568 00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.920 it. Yeah, no problem. I hope you had a good night. 569 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.400 Don't watch watch some Traders? Yeah yeah, we'll talk again soon. Thanks 570 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.920 for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. When a bunch of free from 571 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:24.599 to seventeen Recovery go to the app, all the website to seventeen recovery dot com,