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Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your
host, Cliff Dunning. We're talking about

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cannabis again. We haven't spoken or
had anyone on the show that is focused

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on cannabis, its use, its
cultivation, and the true plant medicine that

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we refer to a lot on this
show. And this is an election year.

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It's a presidential election year, but
it's all in the United States,

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that is, and it's also there's
other elections going on Senate and Congress,

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local officials in every state. And
I'm really still perplexed why the United States

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as a whole hasn't legalized cannabis.
It's a slow process and the states that

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are still banning cannabis seem to be
kind of out of touch or they have

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people in the administration who just don't
understand that it has medicinal purposes, it

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has healing purposes. It's the focus
used to be crazy cannabis, crazy marijuana,

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crazy weed. You know, it
leads to the use of other drugs

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and more stimulants and eventually leads to
a life of crime. That's almost like

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a story book. It's a big
myth. Really, it's a crazy myth.

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And you know, I wrote a
book on cannabis a couple of years

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ago called Cannabis and Sexual Ecstasy for
Men. We had doctor Pepper Hernandez on

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the show for a number of years, and you know it was I mean,

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I was really rocking and rolling with
it, and my you know,

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interest in other topics superseded the cannabis
side. But so today we're featuring a

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new book, a new author who
is really a modern shaman, but within

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the confines of the United States.
She's actually an educated, highly educated therapist

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who uses cannabis in her practice.
And you know, when it was outlawed

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in the sixties and nineteen seventies here
in the United States, we lost years

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of important research that recently has been
picked up and we're starting to look at

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cannabis a little more. But it
is a powerful healing tool. And also,

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you know, people are afraid of
the psycho active effects, the THCHC

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levels and so forth and so on. We're now finding that a little THC,

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a little altered consciousness is good and
it leads to other positive factors to

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the consciousness of the brain, to
the emotional state. We're going to hear

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all about this today. But one
of the things that I am really supporting

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is people cultivating their own plants.
And now, no matter where you live

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in the United States, you can
purchase seeds, and these cannabis seeds when

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planted, you know, you can
put a pot on your windowsill in your

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backyard. It's if it's covered or
not covered, but it's shielded from the

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prying eyes of others, and you
can grow your own cannabis plants. And

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I did it for years. I
grew all types of strains. We're here

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in northern California, so we're kind
of in the epicenter of good plants.

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Here. We can get what they
call clones with your trimmings from a mother

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plant or a main plant, and
clones grow a lot quicker because you don't

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have to do the seed germination and
then plant the seed and grow the seedling

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into a clone and then eventually into
a plant. But wherever you are,

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if you're interested in cannabis and you
cannot get it in your state, consider

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growing it in your home. And
when you grow your own plants, not

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only do you develop a strong attachment
to that plant, but whatever is produced

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in the form of flour, leaves, stalks, or whatever can be used

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in all kinds of really amazing ways. First of all, when you dry

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your flour, that can be smoked, that can be vaped, it can

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be ground up and used in topicals
that can be used, and if you're

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really sophisticated, you can make edibles. You can use the plant material in

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blended mixes. And as we're going
to hear today, these plant allies,

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these plant medicines that we can create
for ourselves are extremely healing mind, body,

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and spirit healing to the point where
it's almost criminal not to be using

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plant medicines in the form of cannabis
on a regular basis. Now, no

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matter where you're at, you've all
heard about the CBD revolution, and what

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that means is that literally everything that
is for healing bone, musculature, ligaments,

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organs can be affected by the use
of CBD products. And the real

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problem now is everybody and his mother
are making CBD products, and if they're

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commercially grown and processed with chemicals,
they kind of defeat the process. We're

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going to learn a little bit about
how to find and purchase CBD products that

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are helpful, and I think to
date CBD is available anywhere in the United

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States. It's a it's a illegal
product, you can get it, I

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think in some of these like Farma, nott pharmacies, but drug stores,

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you can get CBD products. It's
readily available online and eventually you're gonna be

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able to get CBD in the form
of gummies that have a little THAC in

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it. And it's funny because I
got a product with THC in at the

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end of the day that had a
gummy. It was a gummy and I

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got it in the mail. It
was weird because I didn't fill out anything.

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I'm kind of I'm still looking into
it. I don't know if it's

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a mistake or not. Of course, I live in California and cannabis is

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legal, and if you're in the
state, it can be mailed to you.

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But I believe this is a company
that was out of state, and

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I think we have certain restrictions and
it could be even laws that ban out

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of state companies from sending cannabis products. So I'll have to look a little

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closer at that. But the point
I'm trying to make is if you live

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in a state that has outlawed cannabis, consider growing it. And it's a

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very easy plant to grow. You
can go online and find very simple ways

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to germinate a seed. I've done
it many times. You germinate your seed,

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you plant it in mineral, compost
rich soil, and you let it

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sit, you water it a little
bit. All of a sudden it's a

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plant. You plant that seedling in
a larger pot and watch it grow.

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And when it's matured, you got
buds, you got seeds, you got

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leaves, you got stock. You
got all that you need to begin working

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with the vital ingredients of plant medicine
known as cannabis. So check it out

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and if you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email, send it

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to Earth Ancients for you at gmail
dot com and say, hey, tell

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me more about this. I want
to know what's going on, and I'll

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try to give you some reference material. But my guest today is Wendy Reid.

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She has written a book called Cannabis
Therapy, a Complete Guide, and

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within this book you can find what
you need or go to her website or

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one of many websites that show you
how to simply cultivate a few seeds into

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plant medicine. All right, that's
our program today. It's been a while

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since we've had anyone speaking on cannabis, and as you know, I did

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write my own book on it a
few years ago. Now, Cannabis and

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Sexual Ecstasy for Men. We've had
a number of experts, including Pepper Hernandez

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and others who are in the what
they are called the Golden Triangle of Northern

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California. Now well we call it
the Emerald, the Emerald Triangle. Thank

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you, kin a shout out to
doctor Pepper Hernandez who was one of my

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students. I love her. Oh, excellent, wonderful. There's a new

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book out and we have the author
with us today. It's called Cannabis Therapy,

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A Complete Guide. The author is
Wendy Read. And let me tell

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you a little bit about Wendy.
She is a certified herbalist, holistic massage

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therapist, plant spirit healing practitioner.
She has a degree about degree in biochemistry.

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And what makes her unique is that
she's studying not only with herbalists,

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but shamanic healers, plant medicine specialists
from around the world. We're gonna talk

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a little bit about that in a
minute. And she has her own she's

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a spiritual counselor, but she's a
founding minister in caretakers Garden, and she's

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taught at Motherland's Sanctuary. And you
have your own institute. It's called the

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California Healing Institute. And she's in
northern California. She's in this Emerald triangle

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that she's just telling us about.
So, Hey, Wendy, welcome to

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Destiny. Great to have you.
Hey, I'm excited to be here.

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Let's start by talking a little bit
about your background. I have some friends

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who spent time in the Peace Corps, and it's funny how you describe your

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kind of being immersed in these different
cultures. A lot of other countries,

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a lot of other people live Earth
standards rather than the kind of artificial standards

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that we live in here in the
United States. What was impressive about living

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in Guatemala in Africa and working with
and experiencing those shamanic practices. Well,

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I think what I was doing when
I first set out after I graduated and

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I set out doing some real international
travel, was I was looking for communities

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that lived closer to the Earth.
You know, I grew up in Suburbia,

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went to school in suburbia, and
could see all the detrimental effects of

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suburbia, and I just wanted to
find people that lived a little close to

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the earth. And any time I
found them, any tribe I stayed with,

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they almost always had a traditional dealer
and whose job basically was to go

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out and form spiritual relationships with the
world around them and learn things and then

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bring those things back to the community
and share it with the community. And

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so they're a direct connection to the
spiritual world for their whole tribe, and

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that almost always involves healing in one
way or the other. And some of

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them are strictly spiritual healers and some
of them, a lot of them also

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incorporate herbal medicine and herbal healing and
using the herbs around them. And so

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I found what I was looking for
and was able to work with these people.

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And it was so mind blowing and
heart opening and very inspirational to know

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that this still existed out there,
even in places that had been colonialized,

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even places that had had their basic
religions, you know, smashed by colonial

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religions. But that's that tie to
the earth and the elements and the spirit

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world is so strong in human beings
that we can't stamp it out. Yeah,

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what do you think in your observation
of these shamanic healings, these herbal

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healers, the difference and the effects
of their treatment versus what we have here

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in America, which is the allopathic
model. Well, that is a book

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in itself, isn't it. Yes, I'm just curious about you, because

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if you're seeing a shaman diagnose and
then working with the spirit of that individual

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and then using plant medicine and other
systems of healing, the difference an effect

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is really a curiosity for me.
You talk a little bit about in your

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book. Yeah. Well, it's
like if we go to the doctor today,

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we wait a long time, we
finally get in to see a doctor,

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they spend maybe twenty minutes with us. They goes only about one aspect

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of ourselves, whatever our current complaint
is, and they don't get to know

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us as people at all, as
whole beings. And if you go and

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work with a traditional healer, they
are going to take the time to get

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to know every aspect of yourself,
every single physical ailment. They're going to

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get to know your mental health,
they're going to get to know if you're

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spiritually connected, and then they're going
to put that all together like a puzzle,

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and work with multiple tools for helping
you improve your health in different ways,

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So working with spiritual tools, working
with mental health tools, and also

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working with herbal medicines and other energetic
healing or spiritual healing methods. So you're

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getting treated as a whole person and
you're improving your health on all levels,

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and you're not You know, the
doctors tend to offer eitherharmaceuticals or surgery.

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They have excellent diagnostics using machines.
They are not diagnosticians themselves anymore. They

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can't look at your skin, your
tongue and feel your pulse and give you

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diagnosis. They have to put you
through all the machines and the robots,

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and the robots give you their diagnosis, which is a blessing, you know,

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it is a blessing in some ways. But then you know, the

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pharmaceuticals will tend to mostly what the
doctors diagnoses are actually symptoms of deeper issues

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going on, and they'll give you
pharmaceuticals to suppress those symptoms, which can

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actually make the whole problem even worse. Talk a little bit about the suppression,

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because I know what you're talking about. But for our listeners, when

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you get a drug. It's not
necessarily to eradicate a promise, usually to

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suppress a pain or nausea or something
that is bothering us. Right, Yeah,

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well, I mean there's there's a
lot of examples. For example,

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somebody has high blood pressure and the
doctor learns that they have high blood pressure.

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That's the only thing the doctor knows
about them, and they give them

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a pill to bring the blood pressure
down. Well that we don't even know

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what was causing the high blood pressure. The person takes the pill and feels

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like they're healed, and no,
they're not. The thing that caused the

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high blood pressure is still there and
still a metabolic disorder, and they're not

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improving their metabolic health at all.
They're just suppressing that symptom. And so

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we see the same thing in diabetes, where you're taking a pill to get

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your cells to bring sugar in at
the right rate, but that doesn't address

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the fact that probably your scleen needs, you know, cleaned out a lot

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of metabolic disorder, other metabolic disorders, and then probably there's some emotional endoremental

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component, and quite often there's a
spiritual component to everything involved. And so

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just treating one symptom of one condition
can almost be harmful. It can save

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your life without a doubt. You
know, high blood pressure medication can save

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somebody's life, but it doesn't treat
the actual problem. Isn't it funny that

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the allopathic model does not address someone's
mental condition, what stress they've been under.

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The questions are very limited on you
know, what your relationships are,

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like how's your job. I never
have heard any doctors in that system ask

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me those questions. And that's very
critical, isn't it, Because your emotions

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can really dictate what's going on with
your body. Yeah, And I would

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say it's not just an allopathic medicine
issue. It's a Western societal issue.

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And we can see now in our
societies that the mental health of people are

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is just mumbling, and we're having
tremendous societal issues now because the mental health

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of all of society is crumbling and
there's no support there, and no one

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ever learns tools to correct their mental
health, and no one has support for

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mental health, and so we have
things like homelessness, addiction, violence,

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you know, and on and on
and on because nobody from childhood onward.

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First of all, there's no one
there diagnosing it or finding out that,

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oh, this child is having mental
or emotional difficulties, let's deal with this

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now. And there's no one at
the high school level. There's no mental

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health issue support and beyond, and
so we're not even finding people that are

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out of balance early enough to correct
this situation, let alone have any way

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to help. If you are addicted
to a drug, which is a symptom

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of a greater difficulty, there's not
even support for addicts in our societies.

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I mean, if I have a
client who is addicted to alcohol or drugs,

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there is no place that they can
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issues. If there's mental health issues, we try to put them under the

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rug. There's shame around it,
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in our family has mental health issues, and then we can't get support.

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of someone with mental illness and they're
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their mental health, and so on
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a ripple effect out throughout all of
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microcosm and the macrocosm. What's the
outcome of this. Do you see a

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movement for more of a holistic wealth
this in the United States, in the

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Western culture, or is it just
going to play itself out and we're going

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to have people who are walking wounded, which we have right now. Yeah.

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I all things are in cycles,
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at the greater cycle, and we
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cycle, say the Kali Yurga or
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thank you. The Yugas are what
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Yugas constantly. We're in this Cali
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wellness, and hopefully in a few
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ahead. I'm sorry. Unfortunately,
the Kali Yurgo would be tens of thousands

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of years before we would change.
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the Cali Cali Oh no, oh
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know that's that's the very macrocosm viewpoint, and we can bring that, bring

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that down and see. So I
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disparity now in Western culture between the
haves and the have nots. And those

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people that have they might have some
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they have to really seek it out, but the have nots don't have

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any access to that. It's,
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in my school all these years to
we say we want we want an herbalist

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in every family and a healer in
every community. Uh so that people have

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access to that. It's it's slowly
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and I have to say, for
all of the down sides of the

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commercialization and the legalization of cannabis medicine, there's some upsides and some hope there

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because she alone is able to go
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And that's part of what this book
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this book in your hand, you
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emotional, spiritual, and physical level, and learn how to use cannabis

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to help you shift all of those
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the latest revolution in cannabis, which
is discovery of the endocannabinoid system as it

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relates to wellness and how we can
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system and get the benefits of that. Well, that is that's a really

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big question. So well, I
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Yeah, just to talk a little
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and not just because, oh it
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has a cell system, a physiology
that's complementary. Two. Absolutely, Yeah,

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let's talk about that. Okay.
Well, to understand to truly understand

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the endocannabinoid system, which we sometimes
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look at its evolution, and so
you have to go way back. You

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have to go thirty four million years
back to when we had little single celled

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organisms floating around in Mama ocean.
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contained in all ways except for they, like us, needed community. They

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needed to communicate. So to communicate
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little chemical packets of information and let
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if when they wanted to receive information, they would send out a little receptor

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and they would fish that chemical packet
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themselves and learn the information. So
those little chemical packets, if they were

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sending out and receiving were actually cannabinoids. They were actually small twenty to twenty

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two carbon molecules that would they would
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up cellular function or turn down cellular
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these little single cell organisms, eventually
they learned that floating around together and like

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a little raft was great because the
people on the outside of the colony could

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take in nutrients. So people on
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protected from viruses and predators. So
they formed colonies. They went on to

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form multicellular organization organisms, you know, by putting a cell membrane around all

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of those cells. But still within
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forth throughout the system in order to
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we could come all the way up
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and some well we don't say insects, but spiders, we found half this

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endocannabinoid system, and we are all
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bringing them in through through our receptors, and they are telling ourselves to speed

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up the function, slow down,
a function change the function, or in

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general, they're inhibitors, so in
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do all the things. So every
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endocannabinoid system. So your hormone system, your nervous system, your digestive system,

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your reproductive system, your respiratory system, and systems that we don't even

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know about are all controlled with the
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the endocannabinoid system is to bring us
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to the machine to try to keep
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can also be supplemented with what we
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till recently, the only plant we
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of thousands of years, and it's
producing molecules that will come in and balance

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our systems in addition to many other
functions, which I'm sure we'll talk about

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later. Yeah, So does that
answer your question very beautifully and thank you

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for that, because that's a lot
to bite off, and you do it

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elegantly. Thank you. It's funny
because when I began studying the cannabis plant,

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it's almost like it was made for
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I always think, whoever our creators
are, And there's a lot of people

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who believe that we come from another
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It's like, Okay, we're going
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And by the way, here's a
plant medicine you can use to heal,

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to enlighten yourself and to enjoy being
physical. It's just such an amazing

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plant. Why would you limit that
to just human beings? For me?

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And why would you limit that to
just human beings? Because that plant has

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coevolved with all the man right,
But I'm being selfish. I'm thinking just

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for the human right, right,
but your little dog too. But what

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do you say to that? Is
it? Is it? When you began

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studying, it was like, Wow, it's funny. It has the same

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cellular cannabinoids and it can heal and
it I mean, it's so funny because

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it was legalized and we lost years
of research because it was not allowed to

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be studied, and so we're still
we're just kind of picking it up now

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in the last decade or more in
terms of its healing ability. Yeah,

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the research, the best research was
coming out of Israel, and they did

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discover for well, first they discovered
THHC way back in the sixties. They

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discovered the end of phenomenon system in
the early nineties. But of course,

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in America, you know, it
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most of the research was coming out
of Israel, a little bit out of

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Spain, and it was there,
but it was just sitting there and nobody

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was able to, you know,
say hey, you know. So another

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reason I wrote this book was because
the book is full of the research,

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and since then we have been able
to do a lot more research, and

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just more recently it looks like they
might reschedule it from schedule one down to

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schedule three, which is still kind
of bullshit. Can I say that on

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your show, of course, but
it opened up it may open up a

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little bit more ability to research it. I mean, there's so much research

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that we could benefit from here.
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from the herbal viewpoint, we very
strongly value oral history, and we very

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strongly value stories or what the scientists
near anecdotal stories, right, So we

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follow these stories back through cultures and
history through time, and we see that

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this plant has been used in all
these ways extremely successfully for seven or eight

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thousand years that we know of,
you know, and before that, all

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the animals you know, and all
the humans we're also using the plant.

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There's just no records of that.
So it's it's we have co evolved with

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it. It is part of us, and we are part of it.

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now we know what it's called as
an orphan system. So when we discovered

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human beings discovered or started using opium
poppies, which was probably you know,

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ten thousand years ago, scientists wanted
to figure out why opium affects us the

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way it does, and they turned
out, oh, we have our own

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opium system inside of ourselves. We
call it an endorphin system and though meaning

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inside fiene meaning you know, an
opiate like morphine, heroin, all those

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things. So we have we we've
co evolved with herbs and funguses and things

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in our world. And because we've
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each other in a in a tremendous
way. And we're not just using marijuana.

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She is using us. I have
no doubt whatsoever that she is using

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us. I mean, even in
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these master growers to read this plant
to at such an extent that it's unbelievable

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how much change they put into this
plant, and how much change they're still

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putting into this plant, and the
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and how much they love each other. So she is using us as

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well, because we have an ability
to breed her and help her reach her

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potential, just like she gives us
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talk a little bit about the use
of cannabis. I want to start with

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the one area that people kind of
are concerned about people who are new to

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using cannabis, and that is the
psychoactive effect. Now, when I was

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growing up in northern California, you
know, we would get bags of cannabis

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that had seeds and stems and stuff, and that was a very weak version.

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Perhaps it was grown in Mexico,
I don't remember, but there was

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a psychoactive effect you got buzz,
you got high. And today's cannabis is

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so much stronger, so much actually
a better product, and it's much more

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refined. You only need one little
hit and you're you're done. But is

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the high of the THC, which
is the chemical, important for healing or

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is that just one aspect of using
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important for healing for for many,
many, many many people. So when

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when the Eerald Triangle brewers got a
hold of this plant, they the only

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thing they knew that it did was
make people high, So they bred it

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for stronger and stronger high, which
turns out it's a higher and higher concentration

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of THHC. THHC is the only
psychoactive chemical in cannabis. Although there's over

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one hundred and fifty different cannabinoids and
dozens and dozens of terpenes and phenols and

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alkaloids and you know, all these
other medicinal components, but TFC is really

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the only one that is very psychoactive. So they bred for this really high

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psychoactive cannabis the one hit wonder right, But now that we but when we

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started learning about this about twenty years
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this and learning about the other cannabinoids, and also learning about cannabinoid acids,

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which are an entirely different chemical in
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factors. We started breeding I guess
you could call it heirloom plants. We

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would find the old strains and lo
and behold, these old strains had a

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much more broad profile of not just
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So they're rebreeding plants, they're bringing
back in. They're making it a

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more holistic plant once again, and
that's going to benefit all of us because

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because all all the chemicals in the
plant work together synergistically, meaning when they

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work together, the sum of the
effect is much much greater than the parts.

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For example, THHC is psychoactive,
and C will actually elevate the heart

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rate, and this is an effect
that makes some people feel nervous, sometimes

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almost paranoid, depending on who the
person is, because if the body feels

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the heart beating faster, the body
feels like, oh, I must be

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under threat. I'm preparing to fight
or flee or freeze. And so then

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the mind kicks in and goes,
well, what's there to worry about,

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you know, the mind can usually
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Now there's another a cannabinoid in the
plant called CBD. Cbd is what

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we call angiolytic or calming. So
when you use THHC and CBD together,

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you don't get the elevated heart rate, you don't get the paranoia, you

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don't get the nervousness around it,
and you get a little bit different kind

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of high. If it's just THHC, you'll get a quick high peek and

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it'll and it'll fall off really quick
the psychoactive effect. If you're using both

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together, it's kind of a long
low, you know thing. So the

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whole plant medicine works much better.
We made a little bit of a mistake

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in our breeding back then because we
didn't know, and so this, these

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really high concentrations of THC in a
plant without the other cannabinoids to balance it

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out, may not be the best
medicine for a lot of people. But

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to get back to the fact of
getting high and why I think getting high

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is good for you, there's a
lot of reasons I think getting high is

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good for you, depending on the
person. Is because it it okay let's

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say, there's so many reasons.
It changes our perspective, right, that's

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one of the biggest reasons. So
it changes our own view of our own

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problems and difficulties, It changes our
view of our past traumas, it changes

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our ability to respond versus react in
mental health issues, and it is the

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great enhancer. So the key to
health in some ways is happiness. And

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if you look at happiness research,
you'll discover that you know, things like

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a narrow viewpoint or kind of a
closed, closed attitude can actually read up

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to heart acts, right, it
can. It becomes it becomes, you

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know, a problem, a medical
problem. So by using marijuana, which

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helps enhance activities that we may or
tools that we may be using to handle

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stress or mental health issues, it's
it's supporting our own ability to heal ourselves

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from past traumas or mental health issues. And it's supporting us in doing things

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like exercising, meditating, yoga,
hiking, and my old time most important

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one for myself connection to nature.
So all of these things and also a

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spiritual connection which some people have and
some people don't, but is actually a

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part of holistic health. Cannabis is
right there to help us make those connections,

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enhance those activities, and face the
problems that we're dealing with on a

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mental health level. That's a wonderful, wonderful answer to that question. Are

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we supposed to be altered at some
point during our regular activities as a physical

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being on earth? I mean,
this is kind of a weird question,

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but I'm curious. Is it important
for us to see perspective, see our

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reality from this altered point of view. All human beings and many, many,

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many animals have used plants or funguses
to alter their consciousness. All human

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beings from the beginning of time have
used substances like this. We tend to

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call them now and theogens. And
theogens is a new word which basically means

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engendering the god within or connecting with
the spirits. But we can go back.

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We can see, like when I
lived in Africa, the elephants love

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to get drunk. They would eat
the marula, which is a fruit,

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a low hanging fruit on a tree
after it had begun to ferment. They

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would go through a woods full of
marula trees. They would shake the trees

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till the marula fruit fell to the
ground. They would go away. They

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would come back three or four days
later when the marula had started to ferment.

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They would eat the marula. They
would get drunk, and they would

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terrorize villages. I mean, you'd
never want to see a herd of drunk

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elephants. It's insane the amount of
damage they can do, but they chose

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to do that. We have birds
that eat berries that have fermented, and

434
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we laugh at them because they get
drunk and they fly into our windows.

435
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But when they study those birds,
they realize those birds are stuffing themselves with

436
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berries that they normally wouldn't do just
for nutrition. Maybe for nutrition they'd eat

437
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:58.599
two or three berries, but boy, when those mans anita berries or those

438
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:04.280
madrone berries start to ferment, those
birds will just stuff themselves with it and

439
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.880
have a gale time up in the
trees. Right, So, animals and

440
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humans have always done this a way
to you know, yeah, shift your

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consciousness. We're going to take a
short commercial break to allow our sponsors to

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identify themselves, and we will return
shortly with my guest today, Wendy Reid,

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discussing her new release Cannabis Therapy.
Will be you right back. My

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guest today is Wendy Reid, who
has spent decades studying the effects and usage

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of cannabis, a really powerful plant
medicine, and written a new book called

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Cannabis Therapy, A Complete Guide.
I want to talk about the various applications

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that you feature in this book,
and for those of you listening, Wendy's

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done an excellent job in outlining how
to apply cannabis. Let's talk rogue briefly

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00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:49.480
about topicals, which are a growing
trend. I use a cannabis ointment when

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I have rashes and it clears it
up really, really fast. But talk

451
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about how this plant medicine can be
used for various topical applicat sure, so

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she loves us so much and she
wants to be inside us so much that

453
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she will enter through our skin.
She will enter through our respiratory system,

454
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she will enter through our digestive systems. She will enter through our eyes and

455
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our ears, She'll enter through our
heart and our spirits. So she just

456
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:25.239
can move in and out of us
at will. So when we are applying

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a medicine with her, generally we
want to apply it as close to the

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location of the issue as possible.
So if we have a really bad knee

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from that high school football issue.
We can apply either an alcohol based medicine

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00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.840
which will go right through the skin, or an oil based medicine like your

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00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.880
ointments, your salves, or your
oils, and that will also go right

462
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.320
through the skin and into the joint. And we can add other herbs to

463
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that, because herbs always work bad
or in formula, and not just do

464
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:06.400
we want a whole plant medicine,
but we want multiple plants. So when

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we add comfrey or colendula or Saint
John's wort to a cannabis ointment or a

466
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:21.440
cannabis save again, the healing aspects
increase exponentially in a synergistic way. And

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so applying cannabis, you know,
with a foot bath, you know you

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can put there are water soluble chemicals
in cannabis. You can put a little

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oil also in the foot bath and
it will draw out more the cannabis.

470
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Our feet are very porous, and
they're designed to take medicine in because we're

471
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.559
designed to walk bare foot across medicinal
plants and take a little bit of that

472
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:50.480
medicine in all the time. So
footbaths, soaks, rubbing something on your

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elbow, using an alcohol tincture,
you know, all of that will absorb

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into our system in different ways,
in different way, So it's going to

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00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.000
be different than smoking it. It's
going to be different than eating an edible,

476
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it's going to be different than using
an alcohol tincture orally. But it

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00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:14.719
will get in there and it can
make a huge difference. And one of

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the benefits of the topical applications is
they are not psychoactive, even if they're

479
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very high into each seed, so
it's another benefit for some people. I

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want those listening to understand that Wendy
has various formulas that you can make and

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you can actually create your own.
And you suggest that people because there's so

482
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limited supply and it's hard to get
topicals, you can actually make them fairly

483
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:49.280
easily, can't you. Oh,
it's so easy and wonderful to make your

484
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own medicine. And I'm just going
to go through a few good reasons why

485
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:59.000
to do that, just really quick. I've been a medicine maker for decades

486
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.800
and I've taught that is and making
for decades, and I always teach it

487
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:06.199
in the simple style with things that
you can use, just that you have

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in your kitchen, So any anything
you can get in a dispensary, you

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can make it home. And here
here are some of my top ten reasons

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for making your own medicine. Number
one is you are in charge, right,

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You are in charge. You know
what goes in the medicine. You

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00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:27.960
know what you're going to use the
medicine for. You're already in communication with

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the medicine. So the medicine,
medicine and herbal medicine, it's kind of

494
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.559
like it's kind of like your dog. So your little dog is really excited,

495
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:40.559
and your little dog can do so
many different things in the world,

496
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and your little dog just wants to
please you. And your little dog is

497
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:49.239
happier if you tell it what to
do, if you tell it to sit,

498
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.239
or if you tell it to stay
and it sits and it stays,

499
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:57.440
then it's it's happier and it's direct
and you're communicating with it, and it's

500
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.079
doing what you want it to do, and it's happier doing it. And

501
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:04.800
herbs are the same way. These
medicines can do so many different things.

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But if you start from the beginning
of growing it, which anybody can do

503
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.119
in a sunny window sill, you
don't need a big cannabis garden. Grow

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00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.599
your own medicine. As you're making
it into medicine, you're telling it,

505
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.440
oh, I need you to do
this for me, and it's and it's

506
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.079
and it's receiving that message and go
oh. You know, if you're growing

507
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:29.599
medicine, it will grow specifically chemicals
that will benefit you uniquely. I mean,

508
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:32.480
because it's aware of you uniquely.
If you if you pee on your

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00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.039
plants, if you put your blood
on your plants, if you do those

510
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.239
things, if you simply sit in
your patch and breathe with your plants,

511
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.960
because they're taking in your carbon dioxide, you're taking in their oxygen and it's

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00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:51.159
a it's an energetic cycle and they're
learning all about you that way. Yeah.

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00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:53.800
I actually use intention when I'm growing
my plants. You know, I

514
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.639
tend for you to be able to
do this for me and so forth.

515
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.159
It's funny because it really makes the
plant much more effective for you. Is

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00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:07.159
you're you're absolutely right. It's amazing, Yes, And that's with all plants,

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00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.719
not just cannabis. Keep in mind, so in addition to you know,

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00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.800
being in charge and starting that communication, you're gonna save a ton of

519
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.760
money. I mean, if you
walk at a dispensary and you try to

520
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.039
buy CBD medicine and you may be
one of those people that need one thousand

521
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:28.960
milligrams of teach of CBD a day
for your issue. There's no way anybody

522
00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:32.440
can afford to buy that from a
dispensary. It's so crazy expensive. But

523
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:36.880
again, if you make your own, it's very cheap. All you need

524
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.800
is a basic oil, basic alcohol, you know, and water. So

525
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.159
and it's very easy to make these
medicines. I have the whole DIY you

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00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.519
know, chapter in here that explains
how you can make them. You're going

527
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.039
to have a much better quality medicine. You're going to have, uh,

528
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.760
just a more powerful medicine for reasons
we just talked. And you can make

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00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.599
it taste better by adding your own
flavorings, you know, getting it to

530
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:06.880
taste the way you wanted to taste. It's very fun to make your own

531
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:09.440
medicine, especially if you're a kitchen
person. It's fun to do with kids.

532
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:14.400
Kids love to make the lotions and
potions. Oh my gosh, and

533
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.039
my grandkids are my nieces and nephews
come over. The first thing they want

534
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.000
to do is can we make a
potion? Can we make a potion?

535
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:24.760
So it's a really great activity for
kids that they learn so much. And

536
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:30.400
if you're a grower or a farmer, of course it's a value added thing

537
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.639
to make a medicine out of it. To try to sell your weed is

538
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.480
challenging these days, but to try
to sell a sav you've added a tremendous

539
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:43.679
amount of value and you'll get more
money for it. And there's just a

540
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:49.280
really, really long tradition of people
making their own medicine. Women have made

541
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:53.079
I mean, I'm generalizing, but
women are generally the healers in the family

542
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:59.360
because they're caring for the children,
and this is all very general. They've

543
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:05.599
been the healers for time immemorial.
It's just very traditional for them to work

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00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.840
with plant medicines, be they putting
plants in the stupot or making a little

545
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:15.000
sav or making a little liniment.
So all of the reasons, I really

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encourage people to make their own medicine, and with herbs, you can do

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00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.559
that wonderful and those of you should
know that. In her book, she's

548
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:32.519
got great suggestions for making all types
of different plant topic topicals as well as

549
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:36.920
some edibles. I want to get
into edibles really quickly because it's kind of

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00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.400
flood of the market. And one
of the issues I mentioned before we started

551
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that my own son is working trying
to develop his own edible gummies for people

552
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:53.679
with various health issues. But what
should people be looking for when they purchase

553
00:49:53.719 --> 00:50:00.360
a gummy. Well, it depends
on the person, of course. So

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00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:07.480
we're always looking for medicine that was
that was grown outdoor organically, because that's

555
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:14.320
the only sustainable way to grow marijuana, and organic is the way to focus

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00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:20.960
on rather than commercially grown. Yeah, you want to make sure whatever medicine

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you're using was produced from an organic
plant, an organic outdoor plant. Because

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I understand growing indoors. I understand
we've been forced to do it all these

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years, but as we're not forced
to do it anymore, it's really important

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00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.280
to move away from indoor growing.
It's way to resource intensive. Really,

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it's really full of chemicals, often
full of chemicals. Often the plants aren't

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even grown in soil. They they're
not getting natural sunlight. They're getting artificial

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air, artificial water, artificial earth, and artificial lighting or fire. And

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00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:04.599
it's not sustainable. It's so resource
intensive. Even now we've moved into something

565
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:10.760
called the light depth or where they
they close off the green they're growing in

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00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:15.559
greenhouses, and they shade the greenhouse
is a certain amount of time because this

567
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:20.920
can control when the plant flowers and
when they can harvest. However, it

568
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:28.360
takes so much plastic to do light
depth growing, unbelievable amounts of plastic to

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00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.239
cover the greenhouse, unbelievable amounts of
the plastic in the tarps to pull,

570
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you know, to shade them.
So we really need to move back to

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outdoor organic grown plants. That's where
the medicine and the true healing value is

572
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:46.280
not just for us, but for
the earth as well. So that's important.

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When you're buying a medicine that's already
made, you want to understand what

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kind of solvent has been used to
make that medicine. So sometimes we call

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00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:02.400
them solventless if so, people are
trying to concentrate marijuana medicine, they're trying

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00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:07.599
to concentrate all the medicine in it
into a tiny little bit of medicine and

577
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.920
then they put that tiny bit of
concentrate into their gummies or into their oils

578
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:19.119
or so, if they're concentrating a
plant that had pesticides on it, they're

579
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.679
concentrating the pesticides. If they concentrate
plants that had molds or mildews on it,

580
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:30.960
they're concentrating the molds and mildews and
cannabis. It's a bioaccumulator, meaning

581
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:36.000
when it's growing in the earth,
it is gathering up all the toxins in

582
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:40.440
that area and pulling it into itself. So if you concentrate plants like that,

583
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:46.199
you're concentrating whatever petrochemicals or whatever else
was in the soil. So you

584
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:51.039
won't want to be really careful with
the source of the plant itself. And

585
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:53.920
then you want to know what kind
of solvent they used to concentrate it.

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00:52:54.400 --> 00:53:00.000
So maybe they just made water hash
and that's fine. Water is a fine

587
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:05.039
solvent. Maybe they use an alcohol
solvent. You can use really high alcohol,

588
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:08.360
like a ninety percent or one hundred
and fifty proof or higher alcohol,

589
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.239
and that will make a cannabis concentrate, and that's a very clean concentrate.

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00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:17.400
But when they start to use the
petrak chemicals like the butane and the propane,

591
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.239
then number one, that's not sustainable, and number two, there's no

592
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:28.719
reason for it, and number three
it's a dangerous process. People blow themselves

593
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:34.719
up and number four, there's always
going to be even a micro amount of

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00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.960
that residue of that in the medicine. So you know, of course we

595
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.159
test the medicines and we make sure
there's no buttine left in it, but

596
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.800
we can't test down to that micro
level. And we know that there's some

597
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:51.440
micro petrochemicals in the medicine, and
so you want to make sure that the

598
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.960
medicine has used a cleaned solvent to
concentrate it. So if and then of

599
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:02.719
course grew organically, that would be
one area. That's the farming. The

600
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:08.360
processing is what you're saying to us
is the issue, because if they're processing

601
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:14.679
with toxic chemicals, that's going to
be the issue in terms of getting that

602
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.639
into your system. That's also going
to come with the plant medicine itself.

603
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:23.360
So I guess how we do we
reduce the ingestion of toxins? Is that

604
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:31.119
looking for small family run production or
what how do we I mean so much

605
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:36.719
because today only so much is on
the label. I know that's the real

606
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:43.119
problem. We just don't We can't
tell. So it's it's it's our culture

607
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:47.719
that's always said that you need to
know your source and whether you're buying vegetables

608
00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.440
or whether you're buying a cannabis medicine, You've got to know your source.

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00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.239
That's the only way you can trust
what's going on. So you need to

610
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:59.000
know who the farmer is, and
you need to know who made the medicine

611
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.679
and you need to trust them.
Right, that's a good one. And

612
00:55:01.719 --> 00:55:07.679
then also make sure your bud tender
at the dispensary knowses stuff or her stuff.

613
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.320
Yeah, so give your bud tender
this book because I wrote this book

614
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:19.880
mostly for bud tenders because people walking
and this is butd tenders are the interface

615
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:24.639
now between the public and marijuana medicine. They are the interface. They are

616
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:30.039
not healers. They don't know anything
about probably the endocannabinoid system, or they

617
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:36.000
don't know anything about physical issues,
physiology, medicine. They don't know anything

618
00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.920
about whole holistic healing. So that's
why I wrote this book so that they

619
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:45.639
can so that they can answer those
questions, so that they can help people

620
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.480
understand what they need. I mean, every single bud test, someone walks

621
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.599
in and goes, hey, I
got this, what should I use?

622
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.119
Yeah? You know, and how
are they supposed to answer that or know

623
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:58.119
that so that that's part of why
I wrote this book. Oh my god,

624
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.400
I didn't even think about that.
Just kind of throwout bud tender and

625
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:04.639
you're saying, Cliff, I wrote
this for the buttenders of like, yes,

626
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.880
such a perfect fit for them.
It's almost like right, it has

627
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:15.199
to be like a one on one
self teaching program or I don't even know.

628
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.159
Do butt tenders even go to school
to know their stuff? No self

629
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.239
taught? There is no school.
Medical schools do not even teach about the

630
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:30.559
endocannabinoid system, even though it has
been the major most major neurophysiological discovery in

631
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:35.599
decades, and even though it was
discovered in the early nineties. You never

632
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:39.760
see the endocannabinoid system taught in a
medical school or any other school whatsoever.

633
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:44.119
I mean, I don't even teach
nutrition in there. And so doctors are

634
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:50.039
always dependent on pharmaceutical salesmen for their
educations, right. The pharmaceutical salesman is

635
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.800
the interface between doctors and the pharmaceuticals, so they learn everything from the salesman.

636
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:59.440
Butt tenders in the same position.
Now they are the interface between people

637
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:04.800
seeking edison and the medicine. Yeah, and it's a ridiculous difficult place to

638
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:09.800
be. They're they're under educated and
underpaid. Oh my god. Yeah,

639
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.760
so that those are those are the
face of the product. And if they're

640
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.800
not well educated, you're going to
get who knows what. Yeah, yeah,

641
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:21.599
you're going to get them trying to
make the most money. Right,

642
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:25.760
Well, you should get your publisher
to send these to the dispensary. I

643
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.079
would like to do. I've been
going that's what I'm on for right now

644
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.079
through the Pacific Northwest. I'm walking
into dispensaries and I'm saying, please carry

645
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.719
this book. Please carry at least
a reference copy of this book. Please

646
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.079
buy some for your bud tenders,
because that's that's what's going on. But

647
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:45.159
trying to reach every dispensary in the
country is a bit of a challenge.

648
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:47.039
So I'm going to ask your audience
to help out. You know, I'm

649
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:52.679
going to ask your audience to buy
buy two books, and take one down

650
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.119
to their favorite dispensary and donate it
to dispensary. That's a really good suggestion.

651
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:00.960
Okay, So we talked about delivery
system, talk about topicals. We

652
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.920
talk about edibles. Obviously, if
you smoke it, there's vaping, there's

653
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:09.440
regular just using a bong or rolling
a joint. Talk a little bit.

654
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:15.760
And this is something that you have
in the book about creating infusion types of

655
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:24.360
therapy where you mix plant buds with
some other different flowers or whatever to create

656
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:30.760
an infused kind of a environment.
Talk about that. That is so cool.

657
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:37.639
Well, marijuana can be infused in
multiple different We call them menstrums in

658
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:43.360
the herbal world. Chemically you might
call them solvents, although they're slightly different.

659
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:47.280
So you can and basically an infusion
means you soak it in that thing

660
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:52.119
for a little while, a couple
of weeks. So you can soak marijuana

661
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:58.239
in water. You can soak marijuana
in cool water or hot water, and

662
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.440
you'll get a slightly different effect.
You can soak marijuana in vinegar and you'll

663
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:08.400
get a little slightly different effect.
You can soak marijuana in alcohol, and

664
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:13.719
you can be a low alcohol like
your average bottle of Vodkak, or it

665
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.960
can be a very high proof alcohol
like what they call ever clear. You

666
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:22.719
know, will buy ethanol and you'll
get slightly different, you know effects.

667
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:27.119
But all of these you can do
at home. You pack a jar full

668
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.519
of your marijuana. It could be
bud, it could be leaf, depending

669
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:35.360
on how strong you want it to
be. You maybe pour your maybe your

670
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:39.360
favorite thing is vodka or tequila or
whatever. You pour that over the the

671
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:43.519
marijuana. You put a lid on
the jar, You sit it on the

672
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:45.800
shelf for four to six weeks,
and bam, you've made your first tink.

673
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:50.039
Sure, you just strain the marijuana
out of it, and you have

674
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:54.000
an amazing marijuana medicine. Or maybe
you soaked it in oil. You strain

675
00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:58.719
the marijuana out of it, and
you have an amazing oil that you can

676
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:04.559
either use internal or as a topical. Like I said this, this medicine

677
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.400
wants to be inside us so badly
that it doesn't really matter how you decide

678
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:14.119
to infuse what you decide to infuse
it with. Wow. I want to

679
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.719
finish with one area that I was
very uh happy to see, which is

680
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:23.239
you actually show how to make teas
and I thought that was brilliant. Can

681
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:30.199
you give us an example of a
tea preparation and perhaps what it is generally

682
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:37.000
good for or it could just be
for medicinal whatever, happiness, wellness,

683
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:44.719
a general kind of a tea for
for for just basic function? Right?

684
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:46.480
Yeah, No, tea's are one
of my favorite, one of the most

685
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:53.440
ancient medicines out there, and they're
so undervalued and it's ridiculous. So herbal

686
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:59.800
teese are, yeah, one of
the best ways to heal yourself. They're

687
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:02.800
very, very subtle, and the
more herbs you put in them, the

688
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:09.760
broader a palette of medicinal effects you
get from them. So I make marijuana

689
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:14.360
teas for a lot of my clients
and a lot of my students, and

690
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.400
it depends on what they want.
So I had a client that had very

691
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:22.920
very severe osteothritis in their hands.
It got to the point where they couldn't

692
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:27.000
really write anymore, which is what
they like to do for a living.

693
01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:36.079
And they also so they So this
guy's name was Peter. He really liked

694
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.159
green tea. He drank green tea
a lot, very medicinal, has very

695
01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:45.360
high on antioxidants as his cannabis.
So we took marijuana leaves. We didn't

696
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:47.119
even take buds. We took the
leaves, which have a lot of medicine

697
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:52.000
in them and slightly different medicine than
the buds, and we mixed them with

698
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.880
his green tea leaves and he would
make himself a little cup of green tea

699
01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:00.559
in the morning. And we I
think in the end he had a little

700
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.920
bit of milk. So if you
add a little bit of fat to a

701
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.639
water infusion of marijuana, it'll pull
a little more medicine out. So he

702
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:14.719
would have his green tea, his
marijuana tea with milk in the morning,

703
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:21.880
and his hands would just literally uncurl. He was able to write. And

704
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:29.280
then well, tea is more immediate
than consuming something solid, but it's less

705
01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:32.199
immediate than say, using an alcohol
tincture, which will absorb into the blood

706
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:37.760
system right away. For him,
it worked better because the effect lasted longer,

707
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.239
so the tea would set in.
You know, he would drink the

708
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.960
cup of tea and maybe within ten
minutes he would notice a huge difference.

709
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:50.559
And then when he would start to
feel tight again around lunchtime or after lunch,

710
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.039
he would have another cup of tea. Yeah, And so one to

711
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:59.920
three cups of tea a day.
And and that tea was not just tree

712
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.599
eating his hands. That treat tea
was treating the endocannabinoid system. It was

713
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:13.159
killing stray cancer cells in his body. It was reducing inflammation throughout his whole

714
01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:17.639
body and in his brain. I
mean it does there's such such magical effects

715
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.360
and such holistic effects that you may
be taking cannabis for one thing, but

716
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.719
the cannabis, once it gets in
you, she decides where you need the

717
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.159
healing, and she goes to the
places, you know, the cells that

718
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:35.760
send out receptors. She goes there, you know. And so in general,

719
01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:40.000
his whole health improved. And because
the green leaves had a tiny bit

720
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:46.320
of TC in them, he also
got a slightly mellowing effect and he liked

721
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:51.519
the effect, and he liked the
way it helped his writing. So it

722
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:53.840
would change, you know, it
would slightly change his perspective, and he

723
01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:58.400
felt that that helped with his writing. This is very common in artists and

724
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:04.199
musicians. You don't need to take
that one hit that's so strong that you're

725
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:11.519
out. You can take a subtle
or microdoses of THC and it can subtly

726
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:17.559
alter your perceptions or pull out your
creativity or filter out, you know,

727
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:21.880
all that minutia out there that so
that you can focus. It's a great

728
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:28.280
focuser, and so, you know, t is one of my favorite ways

729
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.719
for people to to generally introduce cannabis
into their into their world. Thank you

730
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:36.280
for that, Wendy that was amazing. As we conclude. By the way,

731
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:40.159
the name of this book we're talking
about today is called Cannabis Therapy,

732
01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:45.719
A Complete Guide. My guess has
been Wendy read. As we conclude,

733
01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:53.800
look at all those tags in there. I want you to give another example

734
01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:00.920
of a client, a case study. And you mentioned Jerry who had who

735
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:04.679
had asthma. Yeah, yeah,
that sounds like a really good one because

736
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:11.280
that's that I mean, they give
people with asthma some really potent drug therapy.

737
01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.199
Yeah, and he had had asthma
all his life. I'm actually just

738
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.199
going to read a bit of this
from the place a little bit here.

739
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:24.679
So this is Jerry's story. Jerry
was seventy six year old retired engineer and

740
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:28.440
he was a really aviage cyclist.
He was on his road bike all the

741
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:33.000
time. When he came to me, he actually was just looking for help

742
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:40.000
with insomnia and he was averaging about
four hours a night of sleep. He

743
01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:42.840
was waking up in the early morning
and he was unable to get back to

744
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:47.480
sleep. He tried all those over
the counter sleep medications and the pharmaceuticals which

745
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:51.719
are very harmful in the end,
and he just didn't want to use them.

746
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:58.360
A secondary issue that he had was
a restless leg syndrome, which which

747
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.440
is a thing. I have many, many many clients with it, and

748
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:09.519
it really is a thing. And
then another issue that he had was other

749
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:13.800
issues was his asthma, his lifelong
asthma, and he also had high blood

750
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:16.880
pressure. There were other issues as
well, but those are just the physical

751
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:23.760
issues. So we discussed all of
his options and he started off trying some

752
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:30.039
sleep drops, which is a formula
I made with multiple herbs, including raw

753
01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:35.559
cannabis. Raw cannabis has THHC acid
in it. THHC acid is non psychoactive,

754
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:42.119
but it's very anti inflammatory and very
calming. So I mixed the thhca

755
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:47.800
or TC acid with a CBD rich
cannabis for this sleep medicine. For the

756
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:53.320
reason I spoke of before is TC
itself can elevate the heart rate, not

757
01:06:53.440 --> 01:07:00.400
good for sleep. So he tried
this and he started sleeping longer and it

758
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.320
helped considerably. Didn't solve the whole
problem, it helped considerably, uh,

759
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.119
you know. And when he came
back to me, that's when we started

760
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:14.559
talking about the asthma. And he
had been developing like an increased dependence on

761
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:20.039
his albuterol inhaler. Albuterol is an
emergency inhaler that asthmatics used when they are

762
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:25.199
having an asthma attack, and you're
not supposed to use it that much,

763
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:29.599
but of course you end up using
it a lot as your asthma gets worse.

764
01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:34.159
So then he went his doctor gave
him a cortico steroid inhaler which is

765
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:43.679
an inhaler, a steroid that is
extremely anti inflammatory. It's not as harmful

766
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.840
as using the abuterol too much.
So people use the cordico steroids on a

767
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:51.000
regular basis to keep the inflammation in
their lungs down and it helps their asthma.

768
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:57.159
So he was using that at that
point in time. He was using

769
01:07:58.199 --> 01:08:02.440
forty four hundred micrograms twice a day
and it worked, but he didn't want

770
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:10.360
to, you know, keep keep
on. Yeah, So so we let's

771
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:15.119
see what did we do. We
went through a trying different things, and

772
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:21.119
so he tried an alcohol tincture,
uh first, and alcohol tincture when you

773
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:26.319
take it on the tongue, absorbs
almost immediately into your blood system, so

774
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:30.119
you get in a more immediate effect
than an edible, but the effect wears

775
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:36.359
off more quickly. So I had
mixed again the THHC acid and CBD rich

776
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:43.840
cannabis with some other good lung herbs, and he started with that, and

777
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:47.640
then he then, what did we
do it for that? After the first

778
01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:53.840
week on this regimen, and this
is his words, my airflow increased from

779
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:57.680
two hundred and eighty liters per minute
to an average of three hundred and thirty

780
01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:01.960
five. He was getting a lot
more oxygen into his lungs. The most

781
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:06.960
obvious indication that things were different was
that while write in colder temperatures, I

782
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:12.199
no longer had the tightening in my
bronchial tubes that had been caused by the

783
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.319
cold air rushing into his lungs.
That was amazing. He said that alone

784
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.279
was worth all of it. He
continued with the same dosages for about three

785
01:09:19.319 --> 01:09:25.079
weeks. His airflow continued to increase
up to three hundred and ninety, which

786
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:31.560
for an asthmatic is pretty amazing.
He began decreasing his steroids. He decreased

787
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.720
them first twenty five percent. We
decreased them really slowly, you know,

788
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:44.159
And he and he started vaporizing.
So a lot of people think with lung

789
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:48.000
issues, smoking or vaporizing is a
no go. But that's not the case

790
01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:54.039
because when you smoke or vaporize for
asthma or for lung issues, you're getting

791
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:58.239
the medicine directly to where it needs
to go. So for some people,

792
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:03.800
in some cases, smoking or vaporizing
helps their lungs tremendously. And that's something

793
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:06.119
that people need to know. I
mean, if you try it and it

794
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:10.800
doesn't work for you, don't do
it. But uh, it works for

795
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:18.520
a lot of people. So he
kept cutting his medicine down and he would

796
01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:27.680
occasionally increase his vapori, his vaporizing
of the CBD, and one day he

797
01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:32.000
ran out of the CBD that he
was using and he replaced it with something

798
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:39.920
that had something else, and he
had a bad effect. So he was

799
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:44.920
getting less error and less oxygen into
his lungs. So by the let's say,

800
01:10:44.920 --> 01:10:48.399
by the ninth week, he was
using ten milligrams a day of CBD

801
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:56.479
rich THHCA rich cannabis medicine. That's
not very much ten milligrams. Uh.

802
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:00.840
He continued to phase out. By
the tenth week, he had discontinued his

803
01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:08.079
cordico steroids entirely and he was not
needing to use his albuterol at all,

804
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:15.600
and then he went on to reduce
his cannabinoid dosage too, So he then

805
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.479
took that dosage down, you know, in a comfortable way, until he

806
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:23.520
I think at this point in time
I recently saw him, he's almost off

807
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:29.199
of it all together. Is the
is the formula actually healing the lung tissue

808
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.840
or is it just the effect of
allowing it to stretch to the point where

809
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:40.079
you can take in more oxygen.
Uh, it's reducing the inflammation of the

810
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:45.560
lungs. Cannabis is very anti inflammatory. It's also an expectorant. So sometimes

811
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:50.359
in asthma, you have congestion built
up in the lungs and the cannabis helps

812
01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:56.039
break up the congestion so that it
can be coughed out. Uh. And

813
01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:01.399
it also is a cannabis is one
is the high is antioxidant herb or medicine

814
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:08.239
that you can get a hold of. And antioxidant medicines prevent oxidative damage,

815
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.600
which is a whole nother story that
we could go into another time, but

816
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.560
that effect was definitely part of what
was going on. Is protecting him from

817
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.880
that, and it also cleans up
the effects of oxidative damage. So it

818
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:25.880
was cleaning his lungs, it was
reducing inflammation, it was helping him break

819
01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:31.039
up any congestion. Fantastic, and
then he other unexpected but positive results,

820
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:36.279
because this is an example of holistic
therapy, other unexpected and positive results.

821
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:44.000
My blood pressure is now down to
a great average, My glucose levels are

822
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:48.359
now down to a great average,
My restless legs are no longer restless,

823
01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:56.640
and all the side effects from the
cordico steroids are gone. So basically,

824
01:12:56.920 --> 01:13:03.319
this minimal cannabis therapy allow him to
come back into balance. And uh,

825
01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:10.399
what a fantastic story because uh,
you know, I've always heard that when

826
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:15.520
you have asthma, your lungs are
damaged to a certain degree, not able

827
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:23.600
to take in oxygen. And it's
like this plant medicine actually rejuvenated the lung

828
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.439
which is it's true. It's not
that they can't take in oxygen, it's

829
01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.640
that they can't release enough carbon dioxide. Oh is that what it is?

830
01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:34.680
Yeah, that's part of the issue
of cannabis. So I mean with asthma,

831
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:40.840
and so this this able to bring
his both the nervous system that controls

832
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:45.880
the breathing because it's our autonomic nervous
system that controls the breathing, brought that

833
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.640
back into balance, you know,
and brought his lungs back into balance.

834
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:56.479
Yeah, it's almost like there should
be a therapy, a wellness therapy to

835
01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:01.399
use or incorporate cannabis on a reg
their bases for health, wellness, health

836
01:14:01.399 --> 01:14:08.640
maintenance. Yeah, everybody should be
eating cannabis like they eat spinach. It

837
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:12.600
should just be in all the grocery
stores as a healthy green that you put

838
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.560
into your smoothies or your salad.
The flower or the leaves or all of

839
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:20.760
it. The leaves are all you
need for nutrition aspects and for keeping things

840
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:28.239
in balance. You don't need macrodoses
for just staying healthy. And there's also

841
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:33.000
a list of ways in the book
of Keeping your Endocannabinoid System Healthy right,

842
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:39.399
interesting, and it looks like eat
the right foods, get enough sleep,

843
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:43.840
get exercise, right, all those
things that we tell people for us to

844
01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:48.159
be healthy, Well, that's what's
keeping your endocannabinoid system healthy. Fantastic.

845
01:14:48.560 --> 01:14:54.039
The books called Cannabis Therapy a complete
Guide. My guest today has been Wendy.

846
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:58.079
Read Wendy, We're going to have
to have you back because there's just

847
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.760
too much to cover in one hour. How can people learn more about you?

848
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:08.119
What's your website? My website is
caliheel dot org c A L I

849
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:16.439
h e A l dot org.
Okay, And people want to see you

850
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:21.039
as a client. How do they
get in touch with you through my website?

851
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:26.279
Okay? So are you taking new
clients? I am not at the

852
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:30.840
moment, but I will be in
a month or two. Probably my last

853
01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:35.439
Right now, you're pretty booked.
So my last question is and I didn't

854
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:39.079
see it in the back, but
maybe it's in there. Is there a

855
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:44.600
resource for people like you in different
parts of the country? What do you

856
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:46.600
mean a resource? In other words, they can't see you because you're too

857
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:53.000
busy. But is there other consultants
that you reference in your book? I

858
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.760
don't. I don't know of any
except for the ones that have graduated from

859
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:01.560
my school. Okay, right,
like uh uh, they've become like doctor

860
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:06.680
Pepper, and so they have become
cannabis therapy consultants. Right. Doctor Pepper

861
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:11.640
happened to be a healer, so
she's also a cannabis therapist. Right.

862
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.000
If they're not a healer, they
become a cannabis therapy consultant, which means

863
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:20.760
they can help you. They can
provide all the options, right, they

864
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:25.680
can tell They can't help tell you
how to heal your digestion, but they

865
01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:30.199
can tell you all the options of
how to use marijuana, how to bring

866
01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:32.119
it into your life, and that
kind of thing. Excellent. So,

867
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:38.399
however, there are very few of
us out there unfortunately. Yes, this

868
01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:44.359
is very fine. Finally, I'd
like to hear your perspective. Somebody who

869
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:51.880
lives in a a state or a
country who has been barred from using cannabis,

870
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:57.760
Well, how do you suggest they
use it? You mean, if

871
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:01.840
they can't get it, what what
do you suggest? Well, they can

872
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:08.319
at this point in time, you
can buy marijuana seeds off the internet anywhere

873
01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:13.600
in the world. Yes, I
would definitely if you if your country says

874
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:16.000
no marijuana or you have no access
to it, you can get some of

875
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:21.279
these seeds. You can grow it
in a sunny windowsill. Yeah, that's

876
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:27.680
what I would recommend. Fantastic Wendy, A real pleasure and much success in

877
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.439
this new book. It just came
out. For those of you who listening.

878
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:35.239
You can get on Amazon and it
is a well of information on using

879
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:40.600
cannabis. Thank you, thank you
for giving me the opportunity to reach out

880
01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:48.159
to a bigger audience. I get
a copy of these books, most of

881
01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:57.359
the books that are producer Gail Torque
requests for interviews. And this is a

882
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:01.359
big book, This Cannabis therapy book
is over well. It's almost three hundred

883
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:08.920
pages, including references in data referrals. But I got to say, I've

884
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:15.119
never thought about making topicals. And
Pepper her Nance used to always tell me

885
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:18.119
it's really easy. In fact,
she sent me some ointment. It was

886
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:21.399
really really good. She had made
it. She made a whole bunch of

887
01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:26.600
it in her kitchen. But I
found, you know, I just don't

888
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:30.399
have time. I've found a number
of topicals that are perfect, that have

889
01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:35.119
high levels of TAC. They're great
for rashes, they're great for skin conditions,

890
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:40.560
they're great for muscular problems. They're
great for just general aches and pains

891
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:45.800
because it pierces the skin, it
gets right into the problem areas. And

892
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:51.079
I swear by them. I swear
by topicals to the point where I bring

893
01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:58.760
a topical with me whenever I'm leaving
the country because it's kind of like it's

894
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:04.600
like your first aid. It's literally
universally available for all kinds of issues,

895
01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:10.880
and you know, if you're working
out, or you're hiking, or you're

896
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:15.560
in the sun too long and you
overstretch, or you have a hit pointer

897
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:21.119
or something. These topicals are amazing. They're amazing, So I hope you

898
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:25.600
enjoyed that. I'm definitely gonna have
Wendy back and you've got to get this

899
01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:31.039
book. Cannabis Therapy just came out
and the references are pretty good. It's

900
01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:35.920
got people like Chris Bennett, who
we've had on the program before, and

901
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:42.000
a number of physicians who use cannabis
in their practice, you know. And

902
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:46.920
most physicians that work for HMOs or
big hospital they are not allowed to promote

903
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:53.800
vitamins and herbs and definitely not cannabis. They just can't go any place near

904
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:58.039
it. So you got to do
your own thing or find an herbalist or

905
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:02.359
a natural path they can suggest it
for you. Hey, we're coming up

906
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:08.600
to the summertime and that means getting
away on vacation. We have a couple

907
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.800
of tours left for the year.
The first tour is in August. It's

908
01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:16.960
our Grand Turkey Tour. It's August
fourteenth through the twenty fourth. We all

909
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:25.119
meet in Istanbul and then we see
places like Darren Kuru, Cappadocia, and

910
01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:30.640
we've added a place we're gonna see
go Beckley Teppee. But the real highlight's

911
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:39.079
gonna be Carahan Teppy. And Karahan
Teppe has these ten and fourteen foot tall

912
01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:43.319
sculptures that no one's ever seen before, as well as a lot of very

913
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:47.159
very peculiar artifacts. But we're just
beginning to figure this out. Hugh Newman's

914
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:49.520
over there quite a bit. We're
gonna have him on the show again.

915
01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:56.439
We've already had him on to talk
about Krahan Teppy. But here's a chance

916
01:20:56.520 --> 01:21:00.359
for you to see these sites up
close and personal with like minded people.

917
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.399
We typically bring around twenty five thirty
people, so we can get in one

918
01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:10.199
bus and our host is gonna be
Mohammed Imbraheem and another presenter who is an

919
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:15.560
expert in the local area but also
has the anomalous kind of bent that we

920
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.920
love on Earth Ancients. Our second
tour and our final tour of the year

921
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:26.600
is Sacred Temples of Yucatan, Mexico. That's November eighth through the seventeenth.

922
01:21:27.119 --> 01:21:30.479
This is filling up. This is
a one week tour and we're gonna We're

923
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:34.479
gonna climb pyramids, We're gonna see
some of the new excavations and guess what

924
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:43.960
it's gonna be. Chichnitza Ushmol,
mayapan Ek Balam, and many many other

925
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:47.640
sites that will pack in during the
week. Lots of meditation, lots of

926
01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:53.039
intention. This is a great way
to kind of finish the year and set

927
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:57.359
your intentions for the future. For
more information on our tours, go to

928
01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.319
Earth Ancients dot com slash tours and
check it out. These are excellent tours.

929
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:09.119
They're really well designed, and they're
inexpensive, and they're made for you,

930
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:14.800
the listener. All right, that's
it for this program. I want

931
01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.760
to think my guest today Wendy Reid
and her new book, Cannabis Therapy.

932
01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:24.439
As always, the team of Gail
Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who

933
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:29.159
makes this thing happen. You guys
rock, all right, take care of

934
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:30.520
me well, and we'll talk to
you next time.