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Yeah, I say 26 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120 that because my mom called me every day after the breakup with a different mom 27 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:06,439 quote you know them, every day with everything happens for a reason. Time 28 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:13,000 heals all wounds and eventually she started running out, and I can tell because 29 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:17,919 after two weeks she was like, dance like no one's watching. That does 30 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,719 not pertain to me at all. Mom. Are you just walking around of 31 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:27,240 Michael's reading stuff out loud? You've seen Jeff on The Late Show with Stephen 32 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,319 Colbert and Comedy Central's Roast Battles. Now catch them live at Comedy at the 33 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:35,159 Carlston this Thursday, June thirteenth at seven thirty. Friday the fourteenth, and 34 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:38,639 Saturday the fifteenth. 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Well, hello and 60 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,399 welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on. Thank you for telling a 61 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:51,680 friend. That's how we spread the word about the pirate ship. Thank you 62 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:58,600 for supporting those that support us, like Mac of All Trades. That's right, 63 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:02,600 great people to do yourself. No, do yourself. Let's let's let's 64 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,000 just say it. Save you the aggravation. That's right. You're gonna get 65 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:11,959 electric cutity s baffing around with that stuff just to come on your limitations. 66 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,920 You know what a man knows. A man knows his limitations. That's right. 67 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,959 That's what I'm saying. You are not a pussy when you're throwing the 68 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 towel and let Mack come in and fix your house. Well, because you're 69 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,720 gonna playing that that part, I'll give you. I'll give you that. 70 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,000 But if you wound up in a fight and you threw in the towel, 71 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,360 you might be a pussy. I don't know. Yeah, right now, 72 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:32,800 that's different. I am so excited, so excited that in the studio I 73 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,160 have to say, is a champ somebody I have never met somebody who has 74 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:46,399 achieved what Algeria Johnson has achieved. Two time National Golden Glove winner at the 75 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:51,759 welterweight right at she's a welterweight, which is really impressive because you gotta climb 76 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,959 a lot of ladders to get there. Right, Yes, yes, you 77 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,279 do, and you want it in what years? Twenty twenty three? I 78 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:03,439 tow you that and I just won last month? So back to back? 79 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Yes, back to back. You're a repeat yep? Okay, and you 80 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:13,279 want to do one more year of amateur. I want to finish out the 81 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,519 rest of this year and then eventually I do want to branch off to the 82 00:06:16,519 --> 00:06:20,279 pros. But I want to make sure I'm doing everything not like Russian it 83 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:25,480 because I'm still young and I'm still getting that experiencing. Yeah, if I 84 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:30,040 can become an Olympic alternate, I'm gonna go out into Colorado. Get right 85 00:06:30,079 --> 00:06:33,439 in that microphone for me, that's okay, I'm going out to Colorado soon. 86 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,120 So the goal is to become Olympian. They already got who they want. 87 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 But if I could take that spot, or if I could become Olympic 88 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,399 alternate, oh, you could just hurt somebody else. Yeah, take them 89 00:06:44,399 --> 00:06:47,560 out. It could happen. Look it is, yeah, you know if 90 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,120 you know, if I see the opportunity, I'm gonna take it. Can 91 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,079 can you? You know what what? We'll take pictures later. But the 92 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,160 belts are impressive, thank you. The belts are impressive. And you got 93 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:01,600 to ring it yeah, and a ring on it. Yeah wow, look 94 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,360 at that now. See. The thing that I would think is got to 95 00:07:05,399 --> 00:07:12,439 be interesting for you is knowing how to fight, like because there's a lot 96 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:15,199 of people who throw punches, but you gotta know how to throw punches. 97 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,879 Yeah. My favorite thing is if you ever watched like the brawls that break 98 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,720 out at Disney and then then they hit TMZ. You ever see that? 99 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:26,120 Yeah? You ever look at those people and go, what are you doing? 100 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Swinging out this way? They're swinging You got all that real estate wide 101 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:34,759 open? What are you doing? Man? What are you doing? And 102 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,000 then you know what would happen? I've seen Algeria. I watched some fights 103 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,160 today. I watched some stuff today. I'll tell you what. Somebody's got 104 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,120 a nice jab, really good jab, good set up jab, and a 105 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:53,079 good good move and fast and comes and I don't know much about you other 106 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,519 than the two time Golden Glove champion, which is super impressive. But I 107 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:00,839 would say I was looking I go, what would I just gribe her boxing 108 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:05,319 style as? And I feel like you let your opponents sort of dictate either 109 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:07,839 you could you can box, you can go where it's scoring points and when 110 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,600 I'm not going to knock you out. But if someone comes with haymakers, 111 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,319 you're going in You'll kill them. Yeah, I'm not good. That'd be 112 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:18,120 fair to say, Like I think you could go. Boxing to me is 113 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,800 a real art, and it's it's it's about scoring points, and you know 114 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:26,800 if you sort of have that nonverbal agreement with your opponent and no one's going 115 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:30,600 to get a knockout. But I have a feeling that if people came at 116 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,320 you, you could you could you know, go blow for blow. Well, 117 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,360 actually I'm not Actually I'm not a one dimensional fighter. Yeah, so 118 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,519 some of my fights, like my style, I'm an aggressive fighter. So 119 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,799 at the national tournament, you know, there is a scoring system. So 120 00:08:46,919 --> 00:08:50,240 a lot of times at these national tournaments, they I fight at elite level 121 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:56,000 with some level, so they're not really looking for that the fighting in the 122 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:01,879 brawlin. So at the national tournaments like I box more like at the Olympic 123 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,120 trials. If you see me fight the first day, I was boxing more 124 00:09:05,159 --> 00:09:09,600 now everybody know when I come in the tournament. A lot of girls they 125 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,799 be intimidated by me because they know I'm a fighter. So I'll I'll box. 126 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,519 I could box, but you can. But I try to get my 127 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:20,519 opponent out of there. So if I'm in the ring and if I see 128 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,840 if I see it, I'm gonna take it. At Golden Gloves, the 129 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,279 reason why it's like one of the hardest tournaments because a lot of times those 130 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,759 people who go to the national tournaments, like the qualifiers and stuff, a 131 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:33,480 lot of those females they can't fight, so at the Golden Gloves they want 132 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,720 to see Ku bang and Ku box, right, So when they go to 133 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:41,759 these Golden Gloves, you know, it's not favoritism and all that. Like 134 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:46,440 the best wins. So that's why at the Golden Gloves you really gotta show 135 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,960 he is because a lot of people who do be winning at the qualifiers and 136 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:56,080 nationals, they get to the Golden Gloves and they get spanked, like cause 137 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,559 it's like pressure. They want to see can you take pressure and can you 138 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,519 give PRESSU. Sure. Yeah. So I'm all around fighter. I could 139 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,720 I could adapt to anything. So my opponent coming to bang, I could 140 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:09,480 bang. If they come in to box, I can box. But a 141 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,759 lot of times if they trying to buy that last opponent you had in the 142 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:16,639 championship of this year twenty twenty three, twenty oh, this is twenty twenty 143 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,960 four. I saw the twenty twenty three fight. I saw that one twenty 144 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 twenty three. Yeah, I think they had you up there. I think 145 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,559 they The YouTube I saw was twenty twenty three. Okay, So so that 146 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,200 girl looked like you wore her out. She was draping herself on you quite 147 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,639 a bit. Which fight was that? I posted a few of my fights 148 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,200 on YouTube. I just started posting, Yeah, so this one I thought 149 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,120 it. I thought it was the championship fight in Detroit twenty twenty three. 150 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Okay, so that wasn't the Golden Gloves. That was not a national at 151 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,399 a national qualifier, and I actually I felt like I got robbed in that 152 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,200 fight. So I posted it on YouTube because they gave it to her, 153 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,440 and I did give it to her. Gave it to her. It was 154 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,759 a decision. Those are the worst I didn't know that. I thought it 155 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:01,600 had you as I must have misread something there because I watched it, because 156 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:07,279 I saw her drape and I saw a lot of her coming behind, like 157 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,360 reaching around the back of your head to pull you in, which is a 158 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,679 cheap that's a cheat move. And was it the fight where it said Brooke 159 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,360 Willin I don't know. I just know she had on I think she had 160 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:24,080 a yellow top, red shorts, white girl. I don't know. I 161 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,519 don't know which one. Yeah, well, anyway, it doesn't matter. 162 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,639 I was impressed by you know you boxing, because I go, boy, 163 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,960 you can go toe to toe or you could come in brown. Didn't watch 164 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,360 the Golden Gloves one I do. I forgot got it. I thought it 165 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:39,120 was that's from twenty twenty two. Oh okay, that's my first time ever 166 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:43,000 going to Golden Gloves and my first time I won the first night, I 167 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:46,000 won, the second I want I made to get to the finals and you 168 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:50,000 didn't and you didn't win, and I lost the first time and I got 169 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,840 silver of silver medal. Yeah so and then I came back the next year 170 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,279 and I won twice. Yeah, so let's start. Let let's go back 171 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,759 right because here you are you? And I spoke yesterday on the phone and 172 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,600 I said something about guys must be intimidated. That made a stupid old man 173 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,039 joke, intimidated to date you? And you said to me, but I'm 174 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:13,559 a girly girl. Yes, and I'm looking at you right, you're all 175 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,720 made up, pretty face yet? Right? But why the boxing? What 176 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,200 got you into boxing? So? I always, like growing up, I 177 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,440 had anger issues, So a lot of times in school I had behavioral issues. 178 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,440 I was always getting suspended in school, always getting in fights and stuff. 179 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Why why do you think you were getting in fights? I think it 180 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,679 was the environment I come from. You know, that toxic househome and everything, 181 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,200 And I think, you know, just being in school and then going 182 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,600 to school with that anger with me and then like somebody tried me, my 183 00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:52,240 first automatic response was to fight. So, like all during all my years 184 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,559 of school until I got into like high school, I actually got into this 185 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,679 big fight at school and it got really really viral, and after that my 186 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,039 mom put me in boxing. What do you mean to get really viral? 187 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,799 Somebody filmed it, yes, somebody feeling it was after school? Yeah, 188 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,480 why does it look like the girls fight like meaner and dirtier. Man, 189 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:18,639 they're pulling hair, you bitch is nasty. I don't understand. Sorry to 190 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,960 say it that way, but oh god damn, I don't remember like guys 191 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,960 pulling hair or anything like that. Well, my min said, when I'm 192 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,440 in the ring, and uh, my min said, I fight to kill, 193 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:35,720 so yeah, like not figured not literally, but figuratively, like I 194 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:39,320 want to break my opponent down, like I want you to want a quick 195 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,639 boxing after we fight. That's my mind. That's how bad I want it, 196 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,120 like not getting a ring. And it's crazy because after I have really 197 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,000 good sportsmanship. I always took my opponents and I show love and we could 198 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:52,279 be don't We could be cool after, but we in the ring were not 199 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,720 friends at all. It's a different mind it's a different mindset. You you're 200 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,799 a very competitive person. But so that's interesting that it went from street fights 201 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,320 at fourteen fifteen years old. Yeah, I was thirteen fourteen that I grew 202 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,720 up fighting. Yeah, well right here yep in Rochester rough? Yes real 203 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,440 r? Why why do you think it's so rough down there? What the 204 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:20,919 hell is going on in Rochester? Yeah? Well, actually when I was 205 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,519 okay, so I moved to Charlotte, North Carolina during middle school. Okay, 206 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:33,360 so I spent my elementary, middle school to second grade in Rochester. 207 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,399 I spent my years and I was always getting suspended and I was fighting up 208 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,440 to second grade. Yes, in Rochester when I lived here, but I 209 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,159 grew up here, I was born here, So I was always fighting and 210 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,159 stuff. So my mom wanted to, you know, let's get you out 211 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:52,440 of the environment. Yeah, let's get you a different place, more more 212 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,519 opportunity and stuff, because she I honestly feel like if it wasn't for boxing, 213 00:14:56,679 --> 00:15:01,120 actually I wouldn't know what's type person I'll turn out to be. Ill. 214 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:05,279 Probably you know, it could have went down a different route, probably 215 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 in jail or that, cause that's how bad my anger was. So when 216 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,240 we moved to North Carolina, when I moved down there, and I was 217 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,960 like the new girl. She and then they thought like, you know, 218 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:18,159 cause I'm from Rochester. So I put on like I tell people I'm from 219 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,000 Rochester, New York. So they look at that old like, you know, 220 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,720 you're from upstate. Yeah. So when I went down there, I 221 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,320 was fighting. And then when I was in high school, I got into 222 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,399 the fight and it went viral. You got a fight up here in high 223 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:35,679 school down there, I got one into Charlotte, North Carolina. So when 224 00:15:35,679 --> 00:15:37,279 I got in a fight there, it came all the way back to Rochester, 225 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,159 all the way back home to all my family because this is where all 226 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,240 my family stay in Rochester. Yeah, so I got that viral my mom 227 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:46,799 after that. My grandma, when she seen the fight, she was like, 228 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:50,200 you better, you need to put that girl in boxing or something, 229 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:54,039 cause that girl is dangerous. Like she was like, that girl is dangerous. 230 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,039 So I had gone to boxing when I first stepped in the gym, 231 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Like where was the first gym here or Charlotte? It wasn't Charlotte, yep. 232 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,039 So then I came back to Rochester three years ago on a college break. 233 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,759 I went to Fevielle State. It's the HBCU. I stayed on campus 234 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:17,360 and I was training there. I always stayed in the boxing gym. When 235 00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:21,919 I came from Charlotte. What was the college against Fail State University. That's 236 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:23,960 where I go and I lived on campus. But you go there now I 237 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 live. I'm online now because I live back in Rochester. Okay, Okay, 238 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,679 so I've been I've been training here for three years now. Who's your 239 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,240 trainer. Do you so coach Jills is actually my coach. I don't know 240 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:41,720 him. He's at doesn't knuckles. Yeah, so I used to train Chilight, 241 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,000 right, No, it's off Avenue. It's like, yeah, boxing 242 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:48,639 gyms is in the cut like you gotta it. Won't ever say it's a 243 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:52,840 boxing gym at to just you know, go check it out, you gotta 244 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,480 know. And boxing gyms are not the food food ship that people think, 245 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,240 right. My favorite gyms were always the one where the bags were held together 246 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,640 by duct tape and you had the bench. If there were weights, it 247 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:07,880 was free weights. They were rusty, they were old, and that was 248 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,480 real working out. Nobody was there to look at themselves and mirrors. Yes, 249 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,960 that's how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be rough. Yeah, 250 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,240 it's supposed to be right. Yeah. Yeah. So the boxing thing, 251 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,039 what has it done for your life? Then? Honestly, I can 252 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:22,160 say it has let me. It let me know what type of person I 253 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,519 am. And I learned a lot about myself and it helped me like grow 254 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:30,599 that discipline, that maturity because when you're in a sport, even as a 255 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,799 you know, being a young lady in boxing, you got a mature fast 256 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:41,400 and adapt because I'm fighting girls who like in a thirties sure, way older 257 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,920 than me. You know, they a lot of them be more stronger than 258 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,160 me. They got that grown woman's strength. And I'm you know, I'm 259 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,599 young. So when I was seventeen, I turned elite. I had a 260 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,920 choice to be youth or elite. So I was fighting girls. You know 261 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,200 that's twenty eight. Well you're not gonna get better by fighting that, right, 262 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,440 you want to go up in competition. I say that to my son 263 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:03,720 is he lives in the South with his mom in Alabama, and he's doing 264 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:08,279 basketball and he joined an AAU team and he's like, man, these guys 265 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:12,799 they're all dunking and you know he's fourteen and six foot. But he's like, 266 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,519 I go, yeah, well, you're not gonna get better by playing 267 00:18:15,599 --> 00:18:19,880 down. No, No, you're not so that. That's so you really 268 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:25,920 realize what you had for yourself. You saw, yeah, and you liked 269 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,720 it. Yeah. I fell in love with it, like I just knew 270 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:32,160 I was made for it. And then I always was a fighter, Like 271 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,759 I always had that fighter in me and like, you know that chip on 272 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:38,519 my shoulder. So when I joined boxing, where does the chip come from 273 00:18:38,559 --> 00:18:45,400 for you, because if I saw you walking down, I wouldn't I just 274 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 seem like a nice kid. Yeah, I'm a sweet person, but I 275 00:18:48,079 --> 00:18:52,200 got that side of me, like don't mess with me. Like you know, 276 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:55,000 a lot of people will test that when you are a kind person, 277 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,559 I feel like a lot of people would provoke you or try to get you 278 00:18:57,599 --> 00:19:03,359 out of character purposely, and sometimes people take your kindness as a weakness. 279 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:07,759 So I'm that type of person you can only but push me so many times. 280 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:12,759 And that's why I'm glad I found boxing because a lot of times it 281 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:17,359 wasn't me that would get that would just start fights. It was more so 282 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 people would try me. And I think when people do look at you and 283 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,839 think, I think a lot of times people do you know, they underestimate 284 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,400 you, or they look at you in certain ways, so they probably think, 285 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,359 oh she probably you know, So I let people know I'm not the 286 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,400 one that's that's always been me when I was younger, like, you're not 287 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,039 gonna play with me. So when you like when you were fighting as a 288 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,440 kid, right, you're getting me. Was there sort of a street credit 289 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,519 thing for you or or a hallway cred? Will call it at school, 290 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,559 like you kind of knew, people knew not to mess with you. Well 291 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,880 in high school when I had gotten into that fight, you know, because 292 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,319 nobody really knew me on camp. Well, people knew me on school and 293 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,480 stuff, and when they see me fight, I think a lot of people 294 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:06,839 were shocked because they never, like, you know, they never expect that 295 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,920 of me. But and then I have you got it? Have you gotten 296 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:17,240 any street fights after you started boxing? Yes, I'm keeping out. Yeah. 297 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:22,079 One one actually it's one, but see now that that's where you be 298 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,240 dangerous because now you know some stuff. One Yeah, but it was a 299 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:30,559 situation where it was three girls and it was I was with my cousin and 300 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:36,279 it was two other girls and they actually was trying. It was trying us 301 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:40,880 in the store. Yeah, and I we didn't know them and they wanted 302 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,680 to fight my cousin. It was a situation where you walk by, you 303 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,440 know, female, and they think you don't say excuse me or something like 304 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:52,400 that. So but I tried to avoid it. Honestly, I tried to 305 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,319 avoid it. But it was some situations where I had to protect myself and 306 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:03,960 I was outnumbered, so I didn't fight. I did. I'm gonna keep 307 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:10,880 it rop other time, you know it was, but they was asking for 308 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,839 it and all it was trying to be what are ladies? What do you? 309 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,039 What are the ladies fight like? Sometimes over dudes? No, I 310 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:22,000 mean that's what some girls fight. I don't fight over no dude. I'm 311 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,880 never pressed about a dude. But uh, I think a lot of times 312 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,039 people fight for their respect. But me, I don't have a point to 313 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,519 prove. It's just I'm not gonna sit there and let nobody just, you 314 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:37,000 know, just punch me or whatever. But now I have a lot of 315 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,000 self control. But I realized too, when you as a boxer, you 316 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:45,960 gotta stay guarded because a lot of people that don't know they don't know that 317 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 I'm a boxer, so people will still try you. That's the thing. 318 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,839 A lot of people who don't know you a fighter, they will still try 319 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,519 you. You still live in the neighborhood you were grew up in, kind 320 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:03,240 So I grew up in around street that's in Rochester by Plymouth. I grew 321 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:07,240 up around that street, so I actually live in the city still. Now 322 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960 we move back to you see a lot of the same people. Yes, 323 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:12,799 when I'm trying to push you a little bit. No, Actually, a 324 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:18,119 lot of people they respect me. But you get situations where people do try 325 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,880 to get you out of character and stuff. But it's like people who don't 326 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,200 know you. You know, or well, now you've got you've got a 327 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,240 focus in something that you're working towards. You want to be on Team USA. 328 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,920 Yes, yeah, so Friday you leave for Colorado. Yes, no, 329 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,960 Sunday, Sunday, Sunday I leave out. So Sunday you go to 330 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Colorado and you could be an alternate on the team. Yes, all right, 331 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:45,880 how do you get to be on the team? So how does the 332 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,720 two time Golden Glove not get on the team? I don't get that. 333 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,519 Actually in boxing is actually politics. So a lot of times, you know 334 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:59,559 USA Boxing, like some people who were supposed to be going to the Olympics 335 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,960 right now, they fought they won, you know, just because I went 336 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,200 to the Olympic trials. Even the girl who actually because I lost in the 337 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,079 semifinals. So the girl who had won the Olympic trials, she actually was 338 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,440 gonna be the Olympic alternate. So even though she won the Olympic Trials, 339 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,400 she was she was only gonna be an alternate. They already had a female. 340 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,920 They got a female out who went to the Olympics. But mind you, 341 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,480 she never even really fought to prove out of everybody in her weight class 342 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:32,559 that she's the number one. They kind of like when you're the number one, 343 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,440 they kind of put them in a box so where you won't ever see 344 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,559 them at tournaments to where you could fight them. So I never even got 345 00:23:37,559 --> 00:23:41,359 a chance to fight the number one girl, you know. So it's one 346 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,720 of those situations where they got they picked who they want, They got who 347 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,839 they want in mind, and you know, it's like politics. So it's 348 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:55,000 like one of those things where you know, you can't even if I would 349 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:57,160 have won an Olympic Trials, they still would have had her going to the 350 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Olympics. Well, so you talk about going to the Olympic Trials, you 351 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:07,559 lose in the semifinals, What does losing mean to you? So, honestly, 352 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,680 from that fight, usually if I because I took an L before, 353 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:14,759 and when I took an L it was more and so by points. Yeah, 354 00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:18,359 right, So when I lost staph fight, I look at it as 355 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,880 a lesson honestly, because I went out with a bang. It was the 356 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,440 number two girl and it's crazy because she a banker, she's a brawler. 357 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,200 So when she got a ring, I was expecting her. I came in 358 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,599 there to fight. I wasn't trying to box because I wanted to hurt her, 359 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,000 you know, that was my mindset. So when I got a ring 360 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,319 with her, I was banging and then I was boxing, but I was 361 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,960 more so banking because I wanted to take it from her. So she was 362 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,200 trying to keep me at the end, like at a distance and box me. 363 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,440 So she won off of points. Like she was being she was trying 364 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,839 to keep me at a distance and not engauge much. You know, in 365 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,559 her style she come forward, so she wasn't really coming forward that much that 366 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:06,599 fight. But after I had for her, I actually wasn't mad. I 367 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,079 wasn't sad. I actually looked at that fight and I just looked at what 368 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,240 I need to work on, and I was more so like it's one of 369 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,920 those things like you know you watch a lot of tape. Yes, I 370 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,160 watched all my fights. Yeah, I watched when I win, when I 371 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,920 lose, and I'll critique all of it. So you spent a lot your 372 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,319 You're yeah, how many who's the coach again? So coach Jows is my 373 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:36,599 coach. I used to train at Baden Street but now I'm back at Nasty 374 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:42,079 Knuckles Boxing, so he has he had other elite fighters like you. So 375 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:48,079 actually I used to train with coach Coach Dad. He's in Charlotte, North 376 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,559 Carolina. That's who started me off and taught me, you know, all 377 00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:56,440 the fundamentals and the basics. So when I came to Rochester. Now I'm 378 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,559 a free agent and I work with coach coach Johns House, and I work 379 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,480 with Muyos. You know, I did midwork and stuff with him in the 380 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:11,359 gym. Yes, I love Muyos. Muyos is a great coach. But 381 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,039 right now I'm working with Coach Jaws and I'll train with him right now. 382 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,039 Yeah, it's not Charleston Natural Murray isn't. No, I couldn't tell you 383 00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:25,079 what you're saying because I'm going because Charles was coaching people for a while. 384 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,720 Yes, he's at base. Yeah he's still Baden Streets and he was doing 385 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:32,480 it even at his house for a while. Yeah, he was doing old 386 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,000 school. He is way old school, and he's hard to understand nowadays. 387 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,599 Yeah, yes, it makes it tough, It makes it tough. Uh. 388 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 So I'll just ask you this one last thing. Who are you fighting 389 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:47,119 for now? Like who I'm fighting for? Yeah, I'm fighting for it 390 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:52,000 to make it, you know, to really accomplish all my dreams that I 391 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,279 always had since I was fifteen. I was always inspired by Clarissa Shields. 392 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 She's a two time only Big Gold medalist and now she's a world champion, 393 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,200 and so I just looked at her doing it, and I always thought, 394 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,599 like, I know, if I see her doing it, I can do 395 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,920 it. So I just see myself be becoming the world champion and one of 396 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,400 the greats, and I want to fight the best. Yeah, I can 397 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240 see it. Yeah, but then what are you gonna do when you when 398 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,359 you make who's your favorite fighter to watch? So my favorite fighter actually watches 399 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,839 Davontae Davis and Clarensa Shields. And I love Katie Taylor. I actually spar 400 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,759 her you do. Yeah, Okay, what you make, Let's say you 401 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:36,440 make millions of dollars, what's the first thing you're gonna get? The first 402 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,319 thing? I know what you're gonna do. Uh, you know that's a 403 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,759 good question. I have a feeling that you're close with your mom. Yes, 404 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,920 I talked to your mom briefly, really briefly, but I could tell 405 00:27:52,480 --> 00:28:00,240 I'm definitely gonna take yeah, I figured, yeah, and give back to 406 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,119 the people who supported me. Yeah. Uh no, do you do you 407 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,480 have to leave right now? Yeah? Right now? All right, well 408 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,799 you tell me because we'll take a break. We'll take a break here. 409 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,119 I forgot that I have my own apology to someone. I didn't realize where 410 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,079 we were. But that's all good. Uh, lots of things to talk 411 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,000 about tonight, Danny, all kinds of stuff going on. But what I'd 412 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:30,920 like to do is and maybe we'll go live on Instagram and then can I 413 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,680 hold mits? I want to see if I can hold mits for a champion. 414 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,319 I don't know if I can because I did it mostly for exercise class 415 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,359 the last couple of years. And these people move slow. They slow, 416 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:45,359 They're slow, but you know, and I don't. She looks like I 417 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,039 watched I watched you know what if I were you? Did you watch pro 418 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:51,759 wrestling at all? Actually no, but I used to wrestle them. 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You did it the right way if we were filming it. I 462 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,400 I have no idea. I have no idea that I didn't even realize it. 463 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,720 But I don't think I could be uh I would be a good box 464 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,759 and go. She is quick. You've got quick hands, you do. 465 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,880 And I know you were holding back that power because I could I could feel 466 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,000 little I was sailing herself for the later round. You gotta be smart. 467 00:32:55,799 --> 00:33:00,960 I actually I don't save myself. I take everything I got in me when 468 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,759 I fight. You don't rope a dope. What's that You don't rope a 469 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,839 dope? Oh man? It's it's what Ali did in his later years to 470 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,279 George Foreman, was gonna kill him? You mean I use the ropes? 471 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,160 No. In other words, like just let him tire himself out in the 472 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,519 later round. You just start beating the piss out of him. See it 473 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,079 depends like if I see them tired, I'm gonna hop on them. But 474 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:28,079 yeah, of course I'm the go getter, Like I don't wait for them 475 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,839 to get tired amateurs and it's not time for that. In the pros, 476 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,039 that's when you can move like that, you slow the past down. But 477 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,799 the amateur is they it's so quick. The rounds go by fast. You 478 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,359 really don't got time to be you know, you will lose a fight like 479 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,119 that, trying to wait for somebody to get tired. Yeah, okay, 480 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,279 yeah, all right, you can't do the Floyd Mayweather thing where you're like, 481 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,880 no, well, Floyd Mayweather was one. I always called him a 482 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,119 matador because he would lure guys and you know, he could move and move 483 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,480 and then when he saw him getting tired, you know, and he could 484 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,960 just score points with that quick like. He's not a knockout artist. He's 485 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,960 just a point No, he was a points guy, but he was. 486 00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:07,359 He was great. He's never lost, no, no, he's never lost. 487 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,360 Smart. Yes, well that's what I said to you. I think 488 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,679 boxing. I think that a lot of times we think, you know boxing. 489 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,800 You hear Mike Tyson talk and you go a bunch of idiots, and 490 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,679 I go, no, these are smart. Smart, one of my favorites. 491 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,559 Smart. You watch you watch Mike. I mean, Mike had this 492 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,239 great move where he would go low right, he would hit you, hit 493 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,320 you. The guy would swing, he like roll underneath it and man, 494 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,480 it was like three to the rib, three to the you know, lower 495 00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,360 rib upper I mean, and those are the ones that are delayed. You'll 496 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,519 see guys in boxing. If you ever watch fights where all of a sudden 497 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,079 you see a guy kind of take a knee and go down. Yeah, 498 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,880 and you go, well nothing happened, Oh no, no, those body 499 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,920 shots just a few seconds ago. That right there. I mean, man, 500 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,840 you come, that's it, you come quick like. That was the 501 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,480 thing I was watching is I didn't get to see a lot of your footwork, 502 00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:59,280 but I could tell just from you know, a lot of boxing his 503 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,719 hips. So if you're moving those hips, you get up on that toe 504 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:06,800 on that three, man, you can come. It's amazing what you can 505 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,800 do with the rest of your body. It's not just your arms, and 506 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,559 it's a lot of legs. And if you do that right, man, 507 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,840 you can throw. I alway used to tell people all the time and they 508 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,199 would tell me I was wrong, But I still if you're throwing that too, 509 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,920 bring it all. If you want to come in, bring it all, 510 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:24,960 head shoulders, just bring it. Bring it. You know. You 511 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,119 look on my Instagram, that's where I got more of my like on YouTube, 512 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,480 I only post like a little bit of my fights. A lot of 513 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,599 people be wanting to see my fights. I post like highlights on my Instagram 514 00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,920 because I mainly be on Instagram. That's really where all the boxers follow me 515 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,960 and stuff. And I'll post a little stuff here and there on Facebook, 516 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:49,599 the guys watch this and ask you out. A lot of a lot of 517 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,159 du be trying to talk to me. But yes, yes, I don't 518 00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:55,280 be worried about that. I'd be staying focused. I know it's a distraction 519 00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:59,519 or it's a big distraction, and who knows, it could be an opponent 520 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:05,639 trying to and some decoy do over try to get Yeah, I just be 521 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,639 in the gym. I stay focused in the gym. Laura joined us, 522 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:14,679 and it was my apologies because we were starting early and things got changed up. 523 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,280 But she was supposed to go on a date boxing like an exercise class, 524 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,880 and she didn't. She didn't do it, but I think I think 525 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,960 she liked watching you do, Mitch. That was incredibly impressive, and I 526 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:30,559 said it was like I got flustered. I was like, I could imagine 527 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:36,039 it's an awesome workout. I thought I always thought it was the best workout. 528 00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,480 Yeah, well, I'm in training, Like I don't post nothing like 529 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:44,000 how I really trained. But if people was to see how I trained, 530 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,559 they'll think I'm crazy because like when I'm in training camp, yeah I'm real 531 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,840 mean, like i i'd be mean, like not when I'm like, I 532 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:55,360 have to be like that. When I have a fight coming up, I 533 00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:00,519 go into isolation and I just come to the gym. I'll speak, you 534 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:05,960 know, a character. Yeah, I get in the character. Even it's 535 00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:07,880 crazy because even when I'm sparring, like I spar with the guys in the 536 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,280 gym, I barely sparred females. And when I did spar females before the 537 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,960 tournament, it was females that I know, like you know, from out 538 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,000 of state, and I had them come. It was a pro fighter. 539 00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,440 She actually trained out of Custom the Model gym where Mike Tysty used to catch 540 00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,800 Yep. She trained out of that gym, and she's a pro fighter. 541 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:32,639 But she's really she's really aggressive and I'm an aggressive fighter. So at Golden 542 00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,840 Gloves, I I know that I'm gonna fight some shorter girls. I'm used 543 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,559 to fighting all tall girls, so when they shorter, I gotta keep them. 544 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,920 I got a box with them and bang. I gotta do both because 545 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:46,960 when they shorter, they can sometimes come over and catch you with shots. 546 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,960 So I had her come down. Well, she actually reached out to me 547 00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,920 because she wanted she wanted to set up to sparring with me and stuff, 548 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,480 and I was down with it. So she came down to Rochester and I 549 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:00,880 got some work in with in with her, and it was good because she 550 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,800 was aggressive fighter. And when I'm in the gym, I mean, like 551 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,920 she's my friend outside of boxing. But when I'm in the gym, like 552 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:15,719 I'm sparring, I don't play like everything, Like I just be real, 553 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,440 like how much are you doing? Like wall sits and ab work, abag. 554 00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,159 Sometimes what happens like you would put your hands up and they would just 555 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,239 hit you with stuff in the stomach, So I did I did stuff like 556 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,039 that? Well they would or or they'd have you stand there and they would 557 00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:35,039 throw a medicine ball at your stomach. So I mean some coaches do that. 558 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,599 Yeah, that's old school shit. Yeah. I used to do that 559 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,360 with my old coach sometimes before the fight, you know, the strengthen my 560 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,760 core and stuff. But like mainly, like my last training camp, I 561 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,480 mainly was doing more technical stuff, working on more technical But I always do 562 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:55,880 a lot of cardio. I run how much you run down three miles? 563 00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:01,519 Sometimes I'll do four miles, And I do sprints and I jump rope. 564 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,119 Yeah, and I just do everything. And when I shadow box. Uh, 565 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,480 I do everything with a purpose, Like I don't just go in there 566 00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:15,239 and just do it. I'm going there with a meaning. Let me let 567 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,679 me touch on your shadow box for a second, because shadow boxing is it 568 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,960 sounds. It sounds weird, right, and you're sick. I watched you 569 00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:25,800 shadow boxing the video. It's like you had You're going up against an opponent. 570 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,880 You were legit right in there, and I've seen a lot of people 571 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,280 shouting you're mailing it in and you know what I'm saying again for the mirror, 572 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,239 Okay, but I was watching you. I go this, this young 573 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,519 lady is legit. Yeah, legit. Yeah you got a mission, don't 574 00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:47,599 you? Yes, I do. It's like I'm just hungry for it because 575 00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,400 I just know, like I just have a dream and I just got the 576 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,519 mindset I'm not letting nothing stop me. And then I just know that when 577 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,920 you win, you just got to stay hungry because you can't. I know 578 00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:06,800 when I when I'm not comfortable, that's when I I know something bigger is 579 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,760 coming. So I never get too comfortable. I like to make myself uncomfortable. 580 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,119 I put myself comfortable situation, like what give me an uncomfortable, like 581 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,639 like I take a cold shower every day for two minutes. No, that's 582 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,280 my uncomfortable. I agree with you. Now, A lot of people would 583 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,199 make fun of me because that's not if you really wanted a cold plunge. 584 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:30,760 But I don't have where I live. I'm not putting a cold plumb. 585 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,119 So I do the cold shower. But I do it for that reason to 586 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,519 make myself a little bit uncomfortable, make myself up, and it makes me 587 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,559 feel like I did something. I did nothing. I stood there in cold 588 00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,920 water, spit on me. But you know, I get what you're saying. 589 00:40:44,039 --> 00:40:46,039 Yeah, but I basically do stuff I hate to do. Like honestly, 590 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:52,360 I hate running, but when I'm doing it, in my head, 591 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,760 I tell myself I love it. I throw on some music yeah, and 592 00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,719 I just got bad buddy going yeah. And then after I run, I 593 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,320 feel good that I ran, you know, I feel better. So when 594 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,360 I do the stuff that I hate to do, Like even yesterday, I 595 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,000 was training and my coach Chatty do strength and cardio. So I'm just staying 596 00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:19,039 in shape in sharp just before I leave out for camp, you know, 597 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,480 and I did cardio in condition. I was just thinking, like that, 598 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,519 So you gotta raise a lot of money for this stuff. Yeah. Actually 599 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,960 I come out of pocket for like the tournaments and the Golden Gloves. Actually 600 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,800 they helped pay for the Golden Gloves the LBC, but all the national tournaments 601 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,800 I go to, I'll come out of pocket. So it's like I still 602 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,320 got to work and box, right, So what's you're because you're a home 603 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,360 health aid Yes, I'm all yep. If those patients still want to cooperate, 604 00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:04,400 you watch your mouth. It can get over well man, if you 605 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:09,440 let it get rick in that mic, don't. I got a good client. 606 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:12,880 They real good people and they know I'm a boxer and stuff, so 607 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,519 they support that. I you know, and they know I gotta go to 608 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:21,159 Colorado. So it's a perfect job for me and fit in my schedule because 609 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,239 you know it's gonna be times. So let me get this straight. You're 610 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,320 twenty two, Yes, you work full time. Yes, you're you're still 611 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,440 doing online college yep. And you're boxing yep. Wow, that's a lot. 612 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,519 But you but you you like doing a lot, don't you. Yeah. 613 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:39,079 I just keep you out of trouble. It do, and it gets 614 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:44,039 you away from the boys. It definitely do it just keep you focused, 615 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:50,239 and I just want to be I also don't want to I'm bigger than boxing, 616 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,440 so I'm a boxer and I know I'm gonna make it in boxing, 617 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:59,320 but I know I want my story to reach people as well, like when 618 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,519 I do make it in a sport, and I don't want to just be 619 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,000 like coming a sport and just show I just only have talent. You know, 620 00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,360 some people got talent, but nobody knows them. What do you want 621 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,719 to do? I actually want to. I really want to change lives to 622 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,599 like young women, give them hope, go back in the community and mentor 623 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,559 like kids or young girls who you know feeling lost or anger. Boxing gym 624 00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:29,960 for for women someday only because I think a lot of times it's intimidating to 625 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:36,239 walk into and forget me. I don't mean this insultingly, but a boxing 626 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,800 gym can be intimidating. A real boxing gym. You go in there, 627 00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:43,519 these guys, aren't you know, they're not open arms, welcoming in that 628 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,719 everybody's sizing you up as soon as you come in. Where you're going to 629 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,119 fit in, what's going to happen? And I think, you know, 630 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,000 for a young lady like you. To find that and endure that is well, 631 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:59,280 you got confidence. Just it just oozes for me. That background. 632 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,199 So I have a rough background, You're very confident. I don't know whether 633 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,400 that came from being rough or not. I think there's probably people who came 634 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,440 from the same neighborhood who aren't as confident as you. You got a lot 635 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,519 of confidence. So I think walking in there, you're like, yeah, 636 00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,679 go ahead and see what you can do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 637 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840 I think that. But I think if you did that for women, I 638 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,760 bet you would help the sport immensely. I'm women's sports right now, I 639 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,440 think are starting to finally get some I don't like the term respect because that 640 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,280 seems shitty, but I think it's getting attention, more eyes, more eyes, 641 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,679 right, Basketball, for sure we see a lot of that, yeah 642 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,960 yeah, but I also think like you're starting to see some other Yeah, 643 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,440 soccer for many years, I mean, of course, we had Abby Wambach 644 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,159 from here, who was, you know, big, But I would love 645 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,280 to see women's box and get you a little more attention. It's growing. 646 00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:51,440 Yeah, Like actually, Amana Surrondo and Katie Taylor, they're going to fight 647 00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,960 for the second time and I actually shared the ring with Katie Taylor, and 648 00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:59,360 I was like, wow, I couldn't believe I sparred one of my favorite 649 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,840 fighters. But my favorite boxer is Clarissa Shills. But I got to ring 650 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,039 with Katie Taylor, and I always watched her because her style is like similar 651 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,039 to mine's a little bit. She's real fast, she throw a lot of 652 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,360 combinations, and she's a pro fighter now. But she actually won the Olympics 653 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:20,239 too. She's from Ireland. Uh yeah, those Irish people. Yeah, 654 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:28,119 she's tough. I was gonna take give him a get a lot. You 655 00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:32,639 can't touch my way. Talk to me about you as a young lady. 656 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,320 You play. Tell me this football story so, because that's another thing, 657 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,920 like you gotta have confidence you walk on a football field. Yes, so 658 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,239 it's crazy because actually I got in when I got in that fighting school. 659 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,920 That's when I was on the football team too. I just knew I needed 660 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,800 to be in a sport. In Charlotte, YEP, in Charlotte, North 661 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,199 Carolina. Man Charlotte, you played in football, Yes, the first female 662 00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:58,719 to ever play for my high school hard and high school well position. I 663 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:05,719 played middle linebacker, special teaser. When I was on special teams on the 664 00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,119 because usually you know, all right, folks, we're gonna bring out the 665 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,920 punter. Yes, right, kick a field goal that you were a middle 666 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:20,280 linebacker? Did you start? Actually when they had me, they put me 667 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,920 on the field, but I didn't start, okay, but you got in? 668 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:27,000 Yeah, I got in on the games? Did put me in JV 669 00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:31,440 JV? And was actually the how many tackles did you? Please? Tell 670 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,400 me you got more tackles and some of the guys. I got a lot 671 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,840 of tackles, but I don't remember the exact amount, but I used to. 672 00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:44,679 Yeah, I was. I was pretty good, but I wasn't like 673 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,840 that was the sport I loved, So I wasn't really all into it. 674 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,440 But I just stayed like never worried about getting hurt. No, I always 675 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,119 wanted to hurt people. I always wanted to hurt other people. So I 676 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,320 was just aggressive, but like in the I in a way like where I 677 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,760 just want to hurt people. But like when I'm in sports and stuff, 678 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,360 like I'm just a real like like I don't know, I can't explain. 679 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:15,599 I'm not like passive at all, Like I'm aggressive with everything I do. 680 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,679 Did you play basketball and all two No, I just football. Yeah, 681 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,519 I like hands on and then I'm I was a fighter. But was it 682 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:29,119 hard to get to let I don't know what the mindset is in Charlotte, 683 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,400 North Carolina, or are they open to having a girl play? You know 684 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,239 what? They was so open because it was me and they are all the 685 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,599 boys on the team. They knew who I was. They know they seen 686 00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:44,440 me fighting school and stuff, so they was all more so like they look 687 00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:45,760 at me as a sister. Of course, some of the boys are trying 688 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,920 to talk to me, but I didn't pay that. No mine, I 689 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,440 was girl. I was the only girl on the team. So when I 690 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:58,119 was around them, I I turned off that feminine energy. I go into 691 00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,519 my mass energy. So I was like one of the homeboys. I was 692 00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:06,159 real like, you know, so you got a lot of you are very 693 00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,960 you talk crash in the running backs. No, I actually I was cool, 694 00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,199 Like you never drooled when It's not like I used to get drooled on. 695 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:23,000 They would drool in your face and lay there a little extra. Well, 696 00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,760 you were a defensive player as usually. What I was gonna say is 697 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:32,159 you have a You're very uh self aware, aren't you? You know yourself 698 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,920 and you know that you're in control. You learn it early. So you 699 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,119 know that that idea of switching on switch it off kind of thing, I 700 00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:44,960 think is really it's something. Yeah, that's that's something that that's impressive. 701 00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:49,559 That's impressive. And your mom's got to be she got to be a little 702 00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:52,800 nervous about you boxing and stuff. No, No, because my mom, 703 00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:59,400 my mom actually happy that I'm in boxing because she seen like she know that 704 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,960 that's basically saved me in a way. Yeah, so my mom loved that 705 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,719 I box and stuff. It was my grandmo that was more so. Like 706 00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,239 you know, I think because there are a lot of people like, oh, 707 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,679 you should model or something like that. That's because they they look at 708 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,639 me from a girl aspect, But my mom or people that can't do both. 709 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,760 Yeah, I can't. I can't do both. That's the thing I 710 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,119 know how to balance. Yeah, you know that. So when I am 711 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,599 in a boxing gym, that's where I turn all that off. When I'm 712 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,800 sparn and stuff. You know. The tough part with boxing is like the 713 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,679 sport itself over the years has been sort of eroded because you had so many 714 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,079 different titles, different organizations trying this. You got no one could tell who 715 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,960 you know outside of heavyweight, no one really knew what was happening. And 716 00:49:45,039 --> 00:49:47,559 then I also think you got some greedy guys in there. Yeah, that 717 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,639 was you know, people stealing money or taking money. I mean it really 718 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,679 were in a gosh, it was bad. It's still bad. It's still 719 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,920 bad. Can't they can't even unify them, they can't unify the belts, 720 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,400 and you don't know what's And so I always think because some of the best 721 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:07,840 fighters aren't the heavyweight guys, but they're the one now. Yeah uh yeah, 722 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,360 well, I mean, yeah, some of the past back in the 723 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,199 nineties, man, like like a big time fight like holy Field that was 724 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,800 a heavyweight. What I was saying is like that was the last time, 725 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,360 like we cared about the heavyweight division. When Lennox Lewis finally beat Mike Tyson 726 00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:25,440 or no, he beat Evander Holyfield, that was it. We stopped caring 727 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,239 about heavyweight boxing. A lot of people watched Tyson Fury. Yeah, I 728 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:37,079 like him. I like a lot of people watched just lost he did. 729 00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,840 Yeah, and this fight Saturday is Damonte is gonna go crazy. Yeah, 730 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,159 that's one of my favorites to Davis. I love Jimon Davis because he he 731 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,000 mean and the ringky mean, like he'd be trying to knock his opponents out. 732 00:50:54,159 --> 00:50:58,039 And I like that because you know some people go in there they want 733 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,440 to fight, Like I'm sorry, if I could get you out of, 734 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:02,639 I'm gonna get you out of. I don't have no mercy when I'm in 735 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:15,639 a ring, Like you want to knock me out? Not not at your 736 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,920 party, just stay here, ye not the party. No no, no 737 00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:23,639 no, we'll talk about dildo, but you get in the ring. I'm 738 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:29,880 like, I can be feisy. But I'm thinking like female sports, you 739 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,480 know, I think that there's a lot of sports that women can be like 740 00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:38,000 aggressive on the field and then like more feminine or like relaxed off the field. 741 00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:45,039 I played soccer. I like if I probably still hold that for getting 742 00:51:45,039 --> 00:51:50,239 the most red cards in my high school. I'm not you. I'm not 743 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,159 gonna fuck with the boxer on or out of the ring because you say one 744 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:00,199 wrong thing. Well, I feel like, but she knows she's not here. 745 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,360 Yeah, I'm not going to just punch somebody head. I feel like 746 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,719 I feel like you could probably like give anyone a little bit of attitude and 747 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,199 they're gonna be like okay, like if you're at like if you're at the 748 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,880 Target store, let's say, and she bunches you in line, you know 749 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,320 because like those ladies could get pretty candy at the Target store. I just 750 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:29,239 say, I'll really be like humble. I'd be more of myself, Yeah, 751 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,679 because I know how hands are delicate, right you, You don't need 752 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,199 to mess with that stuff to get in trouble like with USA. I'm not 753 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,440 pro yet. When you protest, but considered a dead weapon. But right 754 00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:44,400 now amateurs, yes, But when you're in the amateurs, what I'm saying 755 00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:46,400 is, you know somebody, you get in the street with somebody, there's 756 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,119 a chance you hurt your hand or something happens, so they you know, 757 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,599 they move, you hit the car. Who knows. You don't need that 758 00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,559 stuff. Yeah, I don't be. I don't be street fighting out, 759 00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,960 but I do. I still protect my if I if it comes down to 760 00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:05,239 it where I have to protect, I will protect myself. But I would 761 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,519 never like I never picked fights for nobody, and a lot of people respect 762 00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,320 me. I really don't have any problem. Of course they should. Yeah, 763 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,760 respect. It's your first instinct with somebody is to throw a punch, 764 00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:22,000 there's something wrong with you. We need to find a better way. That's 765 00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,920 where that self control coming. This is part of our problem, and it's 766 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,559 part of the problem that I see a lot of times with young guys, 767 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,239 especially in the you know, all of a sudden, there's no talk anymore. 768 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,760 Now it's and they're not even using fist, they're using weapons. Yeah, 769 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480 that's why. And another thing, I'm a boxer. Nobody gonna sit 770 00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:44,360 there and fight me in the city. Oh no, They'll either jump you, 771 00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,039 they'll try to kill you. So I wouldn't put myself in that position. 772 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,280 But if I do have to protect myself, I will protect myself. 773 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,519 But you know, I don't never be in that type of environment. Well 774 00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,559 I'm in that environment because I live in the city, but it can happen 775 00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,159 anywhere. But I don't put myself in situations to where I have to be 776 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,480 aggressive because I know what type of person I am, and you know, 777 00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:08,079 people got limits. So a lot of times, when you do make it 778 00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:12,960 to a certain level, you see some people who you know, become famous. 779 00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,519 You'll hear an incident about them getting into it, and everybody's like, 780 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:17,480 oh my god. You know, but you gotta realize too. People are 781 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:22,320 humans. Some people do like test people and try to purposely get them out 782 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,559 of character just to try to prove somebody else, Oh, they're not this 783 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,239 person they say are, and it's not that. It's a lot of times, 784 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,599 you know, you can't just keep poking people poking people. So I 785 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:38,239 just make sure I stay out of environments where people, Yeah, people who 786 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,280 would trigger me or try to give me our character, I just stay away 787 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:50,920 from them. Or I just you know, I try to lose. Yeah. 788 00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:54,760 Hearing you speak and you're talking about your confident and you have goals beyond 789 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,960 boxing, and you know that you can achieve that, yet you're not gonna 790 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:05,519 fuck up and tell that you are setting those goals and going to them. 791 00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:08,519 We'll take a moment. There's a story, and you're welcome to stay. 792 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,400 Okay, there's a story that our friend Balls Breen had NBC, and I 793 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,199 think a friend of yours had reached out to me, and I think somehow 794 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,519 he's related to the person involved. It's about a Big Lots manager who got 795 00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:29,719 fired for following somebody supposedly stealing. But we'll explain, yes, and we'll 796 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,239 explain, and then we're going to talk to his name is Pat Geider, 797 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,039 and Pat it no longer has a job, kids in college and everything, 798 00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:40,920 so we'll we'll talk to him and find out the rest of that story. 799 00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:47,360 Yeah, great furniture there they great price. We'll get to all that next, 800 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,519 but first I want you to discover Comblestone on Maine to one on nine 801 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,400 West Main Street in the village of Webster. Cobblestone on Maine is your upscale 802 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,719 bar and dining destination. Gathered with fan family friends to enjoy delicious charitables like 803 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,840 their famous fried kalamari. You can save your craft beers, craft cocktails, 804 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,239 and an extensive wineless. 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Back of All Trades your home's best 822 00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:38,840 friend. I don't expect you they'll take me back or even call me, 823 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:52,039 Sir says when that fucked up on data, say sny, it's funny dancing 824 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:57,920 getting now getting in well by the way, uh coming up on June twenty 825 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,719 seventh. Are we doing the the We're in Okay. Talked to Carissa. 826 00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:07,000 There's a Facebook invite. Doug Phelps asked if he could dj it. He 827 00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:12,159 thinks he needs a dj and then he goes and maybe you need a bartender. 828 00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,760 He does both. Oh my god, Yeah, I have a bar 829 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:21,360 in my basement. Jesus, we're in trouble. We're in trouble. We 830 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:29,199 might need we might need I need security. That's right, that you need 831 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,000 to be in Colorado. All right, So there's an interesting story. Uh, 832 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,159 and I'll play our friend Berkeley Breen talking about it. This is sort 833 00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:40,639 of the follow up to it because they did the story and then people contacted 834 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,320 ten NBC and said, hey, wait a second, we witnessed this, 835 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,960 uh a lot of times when there's robberies, uh, store theft. Right, 836 00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,079 somebody's walking out a home depot and they just they just loaded up a 837 00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,760 bunch of plumbing stuff and they're just cruising right out the door. They're told 838 00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:00,639 not to go chase those people because there's a good hands you're going to be 839 00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:04,840 on the losing end of it as the employee, and then the business has 840 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,239 to pay for whatever right they don't want to do all the danger involved, 841 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,199 all the danger we heard all of a sudden. The works cop casts the 842 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,519 story just just up the road in Walmart, where all of a sudden, 843 00:59:15,559 --> 00:59:17,920 employee runs out. There's a getaway car. He jumps on. He's holding 844 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,760 unts in a winchel White persons. They were whipping him around the parking lot. 845 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,320 You know, I mean you end up bed off of red bulls. 846 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,480 Yeah, yeah, right, so that, by the way, But the 847 00:59:27,519 --> 00:59:31,800 most stolen item in Walmart red bull red bulls, four packs red bull. 848 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,039 The fact that you know that scares me. It might be you be part 849 00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:38,079 of that. Yeah, maybe, But this is uh so, this isn't 850 00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:44,239 exactly what happened at Big Lots, at least not according to the story. 851 00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:49,360 The store manager followed the shoplifter into the parking lot because he says he saw 852 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,760 the shoplifter take a swing at his assistant manager. Well, it turns out 853 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840 as that shoplifter was trying to get out of the store. He threw an 854 00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,039 elbow into a customer too. Okay, so the guy was leaving and I 855 01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:04,920 think when we talked to Pat, he's the manager. I think he said 856 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,519 to guy, hey, you may want to go over to that line, 857 01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:09,639 and the guy kept walking. His manager was putting carts back and as she 858 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,559 stepped out in front of the guy, and he swung at her, and 859 01:00:13,679 --> 01:00:16,199 she just pulled back and he grazed his face. I think she took boxing 860 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:22,960 lessons with zero for this. Okay, you know a little pull back, 861 01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:27,400 you just pulled, want to pull? So she uh, she got she 862 01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:31,800 got grazed, but it was ass all I felt. This is another woman 863 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,480 who said she got the elbow something shoved me. Karen and Tom Meagan had 864 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,599 just finished shopping at the Big Lots on Hudson Avenue. Karen says the shoplifter 865 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,360 dropped his elbow into her as he ran away. I was startled when it 866 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:52,679 happened, and then when I saw what was going on, I guess I 867 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:58,159 was just angry. This is the incident that the former store manager says got 868 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,639 him fired. PAD gotta believe she got fired because he violated the company policy 869 01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:07,960 about pursuing and trying to identify shoplifters. Guiter says he followed the shoplifter because 870 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,920 he threw a punch at his assistant manager. I let people whose shoplifts leave 871 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,440 the store every day. Every day we just put it in the system that 872 01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:21,480 they ask us to do. This was an assault. This wasn't shoplifting. 873 01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:24,440 This was an assault. And I thought I was doing the right thing by 874 01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:31,159 calling asset protection and reporting it, and it ends up getting me fired. 875 01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:37,960 Unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, he's right. I know he's right. I 876 01:01:37,039 --> 01:01:39,400 know he's right. He's right. No good d goes up pun as you're 877 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,519 going, I drive off the big lot. Maybe I need to start shoplifting. 878 01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:49,599 I went to help in California. They gotta lock everything up with the 879 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,639 Walgreens because guys are just takeing stuff. I mean, come on, I 880 01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:55,320 just want to get razors. Yeah, I think that's the thing in Vegas. 881 01:01:55,639 --> 01:01:59,079 It's a robotustin. Please. Yeah, I knew somebody who went to 882 01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:02,519 Vegas and said that coughed by razors and you needed to get someone to come 883 01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:08,480 down. Everything's behind a case while who's lobbying for it dollars Dave club asking 884 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:12,000 him from us man, We'll mail him to you, no problem. Yeah, 885 01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:15,280 but you can't steal him, No, you can't. In an earlier 886 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,480 interview, Tom told me that he drove around the neighborhood looking for the shoplifter. 887 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,039 When he didn't find him, he returned to the store. This is 888 01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:25,719 this is the citizen, not the Friday night key. And Karen watched our 889 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,960 story on his firing, was like, oh my god, isn't that the 890 01:02:30,159 --> 01:02:31,840 manager. Isn't that the guy that we met? And we were shocked. 891 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:37,320 We were like, they fired him for doing nothing, Karen says Irondicuoit police 892 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,199 asked her if she wanted to file a report, but she declined in ironic 893 01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:44,079 woit. Berkeley by new stended me, you know, we have emailed and 894 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,159 called Big Lots for a week now. We asked for the company policy on 895 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:52,320 this and if following a shoplifter out of a store is a fireable offense. 896 01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:58,239 The company has still not responded. You're not going to respond. The lawyers 897 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,320 are telling him keep your mouth shut. Yeah, and then but they let 898 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:06,320 this figure out, no severance really and and immediately. And this is a 899 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,880 weird one to me because because all of a sudden it becomes a liability if 900 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,239 he goes after them, that's the whole that's the case. They're going to 901 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,119 they get rid of him. And then he said, and we'll call him. 902 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:21,679 He said that his uh, his benefits were shut off immediately. Usually 903 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,800 it takes thirty days to get those up, so yeah, he definitely needs 904 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,880 to Hello, Pat, I'm sorry we're running a little behind here, but 905 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,239 I appreciate your being patient. How's our friend Crones? If you were with 906 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:39,719 Crones earlier, Crones doing well good. We were just telling your story and 907 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:45,400 we played the second version that news TENNBC did the follow up where the citizens 908 01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:49,440 the witnesses were there and the lady who got the elbow, and I think 909 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,840 they kind of recap capped everything. But the part that I can't kind of 910 01:03:52,880 --> 01:04:00,239 wrap my head around is how immediately they turn turn off your benefits. That's 911 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,800 one you usually have to take like a month to get started and it usually 912 01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:08,199 goes for another thirty days at least that The other people have told me that 913 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:13,800 too, but they were cut off that day. Yeah, done. So 914 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,800 what happens now, because it sounds like you have a reasonable case. You 915 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:26,599 wanted to see your your friend and your employee assistant manager, right, wasn't 916 01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:30,440 she assistant manager? Or am I wrong? She was the assistant manager, 917 01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:32,559 I think right? I think right now she's the acting manager. Yeah, 918 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,360 so, but she was the one that almost got punched in the face. 919 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,360 Had she not moved herself sort of out of the way, that, as 920 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,000 you've pointed out, would be assault. So you just keep an eye on 921 01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:47,639 where the guy went. You didn't interfere with him. Well after I saw 922 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,639 the film, after the whole thing, because remember Bill, these are instantaneous. 923 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,920 My decision to even you know, call the police, to call the 924 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,599 police is a no brainer for me, no brainer something. He was just 925 01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:04,239 assault, so I stopped and saw her. But my decision to quote unquote 926 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,280 follow him from a big distance. I'm not an idiot. I've been in 927 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,119 retail for forty two years. I know I keep my self safe and customers 928 01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:15,679 safe. But just to help the police catch this guy because he's violent. 929 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,320 He's violent. And uh so my decision to do that was based on that, 930 01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:25,000 did I answer your question? Yeah? No, No, it was 931 01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:27,840 based on the fact that there was assault, not not a robbery, right, 932 01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:30,679 Yes, that's what I mean. So, yeah, because that happens 933 01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:34,639 every day there. So what happened I said, I said, I go, 934 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,000 maybe I need to start shoplift, and then nobody seems to care. 935 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,880 Well, you know what, that's unfortunately, that's what's happened. You should 936 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,519 you should go back in to Big Lots, to the store you managed, 937 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,000 and he should just just take a bunch of stuff and walk out. Just 938 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,880 when when I worked at the when I worked at the Big Lots in Henry, 939 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,159 there's a stables next door. One day they stole like fourteen thousand dollars. 940 01:06:02,159 --> 01:06:03,920 As the manager in comes over to me, she goes, pet, 941 01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:06,360 you need a leftop or anything, just come take from my store. I 942 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,159 can't do anything. She was so frustrated. She goes, you need a 943 01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:13,159 laptop, your kidney, the leftop, just come take it. I can't 944 01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:15,880 do anything. Now. As a manager, I'm sure you had to sit 945 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,480 in on a lot of meetings and a lot of training, right because you 946 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:21,320 have people, employees that that you were in charge. We have some we 947 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,320 have some training. Big Less doesn't have store meetings. We don't. We 948 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,480 don't have store meetings like Walmart does a whole nothing like nothing like that, 949 01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:35,920 nothing like that. But I would assume when I say, you know, 950 01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:41,559 you understood the policy of letting it go because the chances of someone getting heard 951 01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:45,480 are way higher. Well, so here's my take on all this. If 952 01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:49,920 you chase it. Yeah, So so for the longest time for a long 953 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,320 time. Now, Yes, we're supposed to let them go. We're supposed 954 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,400 to not grab the merchise, we're not supposed to grab them, and we're 955 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,920 not supposed to impede them, right for an average shoplifter, so we basically 956 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,920 would do that, and I've been doing that for months and months and months. 957 01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:12,360 So but this instance's different. This my assistant egers insulted in front of 958 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,079 me. Just like if a customer isn't assaulted, I'm not not going to 959 01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:19,960 do my best to let the police catch this guy. This guy could who 960 01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:26,159 knows the next place he's He's probably stolen from many places since that nothing happened 961 01:07:26,159 --> 01:07:28,599 to him, right, so he's probably all doing it again. Who's he 962 01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:30,039 going to assault next? Who's he going to catch? Really in the side 963 01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:33,119 of the head. My assistant happened to move her head, so he grazed 964 01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:38,559 her, shook her up a little bit, But what is he there force 965 01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:42,119 on the left side of her head. This guy's going to do this somewhere 966 01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:45,039 else? So in next what second you have I'm not sitting there saying, 967 01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:47,679 oh I might get tired for this, No, not thinking that at all. 968 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,480 But pat, you think you have a weakness. Pat, I just 969 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:58,639 detected him. Detected you care, you care too much. You actually you're 970 01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:00,840 a human being and you give a sh and that's that's too good. So 971 01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:05,159 what happens now? Do you have a lawsuit or even allowed to talk about 972 01:08:05,159 --> 01:08:10,480 that. I don't want to put you in the well. Well, I've 973 01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:13,559 got a couple of things in the fire right now. I don't expect anything 974 01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:16,760 out of this. I would like, of course, I would like to 975 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,439 be made financially whole. Jeez, I just lost a job where I made 976 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,800 quite a bit of money, two thirds of my family income my benefits, 977 01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:28,960 and I feel it's really unjust. You know, corporations of corporations, they 978 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:36,520 got big lawyers, they got everything. They tried to cover their own lawyers. 979 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,960 Yeah I know, I know, yeah, oh yeah, yes, 980 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,600 sumber of years ago I probably signed something that said blah blah blah. But 981 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,199 you know, fine, fine. The bottom line is this story is really 982 01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:49,479 getting out and it wasn't due to me. It was due to my great 983 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:55,920 friends. I didn't checked anybody. It's just is it's just blowing up, 984 01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,359 and you know what's going What was he feeling? Oh he had a whole 985 01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:04,159 bag full of so our stuff that our stores doubled in the last two years 986 01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:08,079 at this store. I've only been there a year, but we we do 987 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:12,880 our inventories and it's massive this year massive. And he happened to have a 988 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,359 big bag and I could see the holetop was filled with HBC products. We 989 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,439 have huge shrink in our HBC departments at this particular store. So you're talking 990 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:27,439 like, uh, notions just yes, they feel dedorant. They steal. 991 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,039 They just did. It's still wait wait, wait, wait, watch the 992 01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:33,960 department. I thought you said h HVC. Do you want to know what 993 01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:44,239 I thought? That il y? Yeah, beauty? Okay, yeah, 994 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,119 they slight or people are just walking out like this bewilders me. But I 995 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,960 I feel like I'm hearing about it more and more. Well, well, 996 01:09:53,119 --> 01:09:55,760 if you're in retail, you know about it. If you're in retail stores 997 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,680 they have high theft, you know about it even more. It's really frustrating. 998 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,840 Employees get frustrated every day. The customers get really frustrated because they'll be 999 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,439 up at the registers. Some you'll come by steal open stuff, and the 1000 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,119 customers to stopping them. Why aren't you stopping them? We have to say, 1001 01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:10,079 well, we're not allowed to. Why don't you call the police? 1002 01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:13,159 Well, we're not allowed to. Everybody knows it's out there. You know. 1003 01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:15,960 Social media's told everybody you can steal. You're not allowed to call the 1004 01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:20,119 police. We're supposed to. If we're going to call the police, we're 1005 01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:27,279 supposed to contact the district manager or the asset protection manager ahead of time. 1006 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,640 So good good luck say that somebody. I just said, I just said 1007 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,079 to Laura, just kind of like they got the police of bigger things. 1008 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,399 That's sort of I was being facetious in a way, because yes, they 1009 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:43,359 certainly do. But I think the store wants to show that that they tried 1010 01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:46,039 to do something and their last resort is the police. I guess I'm thinking, 1011 01:10:46,119 --> 01:10:49,720 yeah, And you know what, we happen to live in a Rondequoit 1012 01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:56,279 in my store of the ironticois big Lots is quarter mile f mile most from 1013 01:10:56,279 --> 01:11:00,880 the police department. I Rondiicuoy police are special. They take care of their 1014 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,920 residence. And guess what he did show up. The police department showed up 1015 01:11:04,119 --> 01:11:08,680 very quickly. This guy was out of site. He went around dunk. 1016 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,800 She was out of site. So the cops were there, I don't know, 1017 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,960 just a few minutes. Yeah, they're they're that good. So you 1018 01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:18,520 know a lot of these these these police departments are just as frustrated. So 1019 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,920 Wegman's disorder, our big lots as a ironically cop there they pay off duty 1020 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,880 cops to in their sports every night. So guess what they'd just come down 1021 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,319 a big lots of the family dollar or something. Yeah, but look a 1022 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,960 knockoff brand. I could still you know, it may not be sure, 1023 01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:43,000 it might be mure. Yeah that's why I did it. Uh, listen, 1024 01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,479 So Pat, I got to think in the community we live in and 1025 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:51,560 with this getting out, have you received a job offer. I've had a 1026 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:57,560 couple of people reach out to me, just a couple of this started looking 1027 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,720 for job that's on next week. I've just we know, we've trying to 1028 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,840 get health benefits, Yeah, retu things I got to borrow from my retirement 1029 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,560 account. I'm sixty two and a half, so I got to take money 1030 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,800 out of retirement. And you know we have four sons to in college, 1031 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:14,279 so that retirement on the load to begin with. So yeah, it's really 1032 01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:18,039 putting. Uh, it's brilliant tough, right, look at the death prevention 1033 01:12:18,319 --> 01:12:23,640 at big lots. Well you know, yeah, well you know, you 1034 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:28,000 know right there just a bigger issue. This is a nationwide issue, and 1035 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:33,079 it's actually, this is my take on this. It really the policies that 1036 01:12:33,159 --> 01:12:35,840 you can't call the police and that you can't do this, and you can't 1037 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,600 do anything to decer. You're supposed to deter by customer service. This guy 1038 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,279 who was stealing and tired from me the last couple of weeks, he would 1039 01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:45,279 just look at me with these stone cold eyes and I'd say, really, 1040 01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:48,079 you're gonna he's putting in his backpack. He just looked at me, walks 1041 01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:53,039 right by me. So these guys, it's created, that's created, uh, 1042 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,239 stressful, more hostile work environments for us. My all my employees are 1043 01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,199 stressed and for the customers. You should see the CD characters we have in 1044 01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:04,399 that store all the time. Last Saturday night before I fired, I had 1045 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,119 a guy in there. He was not highing that or something. He's taking 1046 01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:11,319 things off the shelf, eating food. Finally, I had only two people 1047 01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:13,560 in the store. One was a really big guy. Said look at we 1048 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,199 gotta You've got to get this guy. There's quarter to nine, maybe a 1049 01:13:15,359 --> 01:13:18,840 robb us at night, and you know this lady who was hit by this 1050 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,279 guy by elbowed by him. She said when she talked to Berkeley Breen, 1051 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,760 we have people when they're run out the door. They they do run into 1052 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,079 people. Yeah, sure, but these people know they can come in. 1053 01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:34,920 So these corporate policies, they say, are they protect have you had? 1054 01:13:35,239 --> 01:13:39,960 But you've had people eating, They've opened up food and just started guy just 1055 01:13:40,119 --> 01:13:43,199 the saturday before I fired the guy's and he's walking around and it's like, 1056 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,880 can I help you make sure you like it before I buy its? Springles 1057 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:53,560 night? Let me ask you why are these stores not hiring exactly what I 1058 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:58,439 said? What did I save that? Maybe that money? Probably not think 1059 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,000 about that things that everything's about money. Yeah, big loss in particular right 1060 01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,880 now is really struggling a stock market. It's always about money. Right. 1061 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,279 So if you're open, you're open seven days a week and for twelve hours 1062 01:14:09,319 --> 01:14:11,560 a day, that's eighty four hours. So if you're really uncover, you 1063 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,640 got to pay somebody eighty four hours, so that's two full time people you're 1064 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,880 paying benefits. And then you know, if everything's about you know, being 1065 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:24,119 counters money And to some degree I get that I just want to know if 1066 01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:29,199 a guy has ever come in and tried lotion before. What if you caught 1067 01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,760 a guy like jerking off in the corner? Man, just the right lotion 1068 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:40,319 for me and that shows up person put some little samples. Yeah, this 1069 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:45,039 man, this man was fired for big louts after stopping a patriot from jerking 1070 01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:48,079 off in Aisle six. According to a big one, I didn't think about 1071 01:14:48,119 --> 01:14:51,000 that. I'm sorry, I didn't think about that. But they steal a 1072 01:14:51,079 --> 01:14:54,800 lot of oil of a lake. Yeah, I mean I can't. I 1073 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,199 can't keep it in the aisle. That stuff is really good. I can't 1074 01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:59,119 keep it in the out. I moved it up to the front end. 1075 01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:01,159 Well you know done. Hey man, you got to look good, and 1076 01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:03,600 it costs a lot to look good. So if I could say, now, 1077 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,920 I'm not as perverted as you guys. So I didn't quite put that, 1078 01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:11,319 and I thought they were selling it. They know a lot of it, 1079 01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:14,720 as they probably do. Or you give it to you, you know, 1080 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,640 maybe a gift for your mom. I don't know. You know, 1081 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,079 that's that's terrible. But they do. Christmas time, you know, they're 1082 01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:28,880 stealing these presents. We have people going out with shopping carts by hearing me 1083 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,279 things and give them to the kids. The stealing. Honestly, it was 1084 01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:34,800 every dayful. Maybe this is God saying to me, you need to get 1085 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:39,319 away from this. I love my job. But then God's gonna put somebody 1086 01:15:39,359 --> 01:15:41,600 else in there to have to deal with the same stuff. But that, 1087 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,680 but God's building that person. I hope I'm with Pat. He's got a 1088 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:55,119 better plan. I hope Pat's hope going against your favorite commandment. He does. 1089 01:15:55,239 --> 01:15:59,640 He does. You notice in my in my uh in my uh uh. 1090 01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:01,960 When I've talked before, I mentioned right and just this wasn't right. 1091 01:16:02,039 --> 01:16:05,479 In just I am a faithful man. And God does have a better plan. 1092 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,720 He does. And I'll tell you this, I've never had so much 1093 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,720 support in my life. Mark Cronin's I probably shouldn't even say it. He 1094 01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,600 drops me. So we just had a beer at a local bar and he 1095 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,920 leaves me this envelope. I can't even tell you how much money was in 1096 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,319 that envelope. I'm like, oh my god, it was that much. 1097 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,159 I was like, you know, you know, Mark, and just the 1098 01:16:26,199 --> 01:16:32,359 amount of people called I'll tell you what I'm at talking. Yeah, my 1099 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,199 life insurance went or my health insurance went from three and dollars a month to 1100 01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:42,640 twelve hundred without my job. You know, my wife's a social worker New 1101 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,159 York State, you know, go to New York State of Health to check 1102 01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:48,239 that out. Let me ask you go ahead. Yeah, I was gonna 1103 01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:54,640 say, I'm waiting for Big Rocks to deny my unemployment. They can deny 1104 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,760 that. I'm just waiting for that to happen because I'm in that process. 1105 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,399 Well, that usually happened. And if they if you're fired for cause, 1106 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,760 yeh, then yeah, yeah I will. I don't know why I would 1107 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,399 know that, but that's right. Then if that happens, I'll be back 1108 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:15,479 on your show to say, now the bit, yeah anytime. You know, 1109 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,800 Pat, how did you get fired? How did they fire you? 1110 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,359 Like? Did they win you in the you know what kind of what? 1111 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,239 They made an announcement right over the big speaker. Hey, folks, we 1112 01:17:24,359 --> 01:17:30,279 got a couple guys. You're fired. Well, actually, my boss, 1113 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,279 well you know I thought it was a decent guy. We got along. 1114 01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:36,199 Well, he sent me to this old dumpy store from a higher volume store. 1115 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,319 Uh, under the promise that he thought I was the one who could 1116 01:17:41,359 --> 01:17:44,359 really fix up this store. And you guess what. I'm fixing the plumbing 1117 01:17:44,399 --> 01:17:46,399 in there. I'm fixing the toilet. My last vacation, I worked five 1118 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,479 days because I was excited. I was excited about it, and you know, 1119 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,039 I thought he was a decent guy. So the day I was fired, 1120 01:17:53,079 --> 01:17:56,039 The day before I was fired on the twenty ninth, the day before, 1121 01:17:56,359 --> 01:17:59,560 he comes into my office this nonchalantly, sit down, this nonsense, 1122 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:00,960 said, hey, you know that incident, could you just kind of write 1123 01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:03,960 up a little narrative? You know, they just need it for the file. 1124 01:18:04,039 --> 01:18:08,239 Blah blah blah. So I write up the narrative. He walks the 1125 01:18:08,319 --> 01:18:10,760 store with me. We're talking about all these things we're gonna do. Next 1126 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,119 day he comes in with lost Prevention. His name's Rick Randall, by the 1127 01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:17,039 way. The next day, first time I've said that. The next day 1128 01:18:17,119 --> 01:18:20,720 he comes in with an asset protection manager. He's sitting at the desk again, 1129 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,840 looking on his computer, not even looking at me, And I get 1130 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,319 a little nervous that I'm called in the office and these two guys they don't 1131 01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:30,600 come together usually want they're fighting somebody. So I just got, hey, 1132 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,600 what's up, guys, sean great guy they asked to protect me a great 1133 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,279 guy. I thought my boss was a pretty good guy. And so he's 1134 01:18:36,279 --> 01:18:39,720 sitting looking at it if you're not even looking at me, And I said, 1135 01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,880 well, what's going on? He goes, uh, he said, 1136 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,520 well, it's about that chap listing incident. I just got this feeling in 1137 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,960 my gut. I'm like, I got nervous, and I said, uh, 1138 01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:51,000 I won't say. I said, Rick, are you firing me? 1139 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,199 He goes, yeah, we're terminating you. I said, And I said, 1140 01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:58,239 you gotta be athen kidding me. And I said again, Rick, 1141 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,520 you gotta be athen kidding me, and he said no, I'm not ken 1142 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:06,560 you. I said, so you're firing me because I was trying to help 1143 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:13,760 the Irondequoit police find somebody who had just assaulted my assistant manager. I said, 1144 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,840 you've got to be asking kidding me again, and then sewn the uh 1145 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,880 asked guy. I said, Pat, just calm down. I said, 1146 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,920 I'm not going to calm down. Don't worry. I'm not gonna do anything 1147 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:26,680 more than that. Oh my god, one of those those machine guns that 1148 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,199 they sell with the nerve darty. I don't work for the postal Service. 1149 01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:36,399 Maybe I maybe I will be Maybe I'll be delivering your mail toon But anyways, 1150 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,479 so then Sean says to me, iked me, He goes, well, 1151 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,920 Pat, let's let's go talk, because Shawn's a decent guy. He 1152 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,640 said, But you have to leave your keys and your radio and then grab 1153 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,399 your stuff. We walked out the parking lot. We had a little discussion, 1154 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,800 and you know, that was it, and they started playing this over 1155 01:19:50,840 --> 01:20:01,279 the loud speaker. Oh yeah, Well, what's the matter, Dan? 1156 01:20:01,319 --> 01:20:04,239 You know they played that inside big lots when they were taking them out. 1157 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:11,159 I got it, Kevin. So I like to do I like to do 1158 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,239 karaoke at the tightest tavern on occasion. So I said to my wife, 1159 01:20:15,279 --> 01:20:16,800 you know, I need to relax. So I said, do you think 1160 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,319 it's okay for me to take this job and shove it. I didn't end 1161 01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:24,319 up doing it because we didn't. Yes, yes, but I was going 1162 01:20:24,359 --> 01:20:29,840 to sing that I think that's great. So well, yeah, go ahead. 1163 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,159 What's the bottom line? No, you go ahead. I was going 1164 01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:33,439 to say, I'd like to I'd like to follow up with you, like 1165 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,239 in a couple of weeks, just to see how you're doing and what what 1166 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:41,239 is happening all this? I think this is a very interesting story. Yeah, 1167 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,399 I'm sorry to hear it. This just burns me that this happened to 1168 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,119 you, and you're not the only one. I'm sure it's happened many times 1169 01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:49,359 to people. We're just hearing about it now in our backyard, and I 1170 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:54,000 mean it just it just infuriates me. Like today, I just you find 1171 01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:56,560 out the New York State passed the law that now if you buy a gun 1172 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,600 with a credit card, guess what, Yeah, they have to turn your 1173 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,199 information. She did to the government to let you. Oh so Dan Brell 1174 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,800 bought a gun over at Gander Mountain, not that I have. I don't 1175 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:10,960 know any guns. Like I've heard about the shoplifting. I guess I didn't 1176 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:17,199 know why they weren't stopping it. But I must be listening because I got 1177 01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:20,880 a text message saying my sister worked at the hood right Aid for years. 1178 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:26,119 People walk in and out all the time. They don't wants to get hurt 1179 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:31,199 pursuing that because it costs the company even more if the employee gets injured, 1180 01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:35,960 and that they don't hire anyone because of security. Guard ain't gonna risk himself 1181 01:21:36,039 --> 01:21:46,920 for lotion or deal. It's all one big setups who writes the law who 1182 01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:55,000 runs for Congress, who would know the law laws? Hang on a second, 1183 01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:57,199 these aren't law. No, no, no. But my point is 1184 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,920 that here's the thing. The policiason place because the laws are written the way 1185 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,840 they are to allow people to sue each other. You only be able to 1186 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,800 make the freaking money in this situation are the lawyers. But to avoid these 1187 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:16,399 these city situations and litigation, all that stuff's to basically emasculate your employees doing 1188 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:21,439 this. He was doing the right thing. We're protecting Yeah, you're not 1189 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:26,399 protecting anybody. If this were in Texas, this would be a completely different 1190 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,760 situation. You have guys guns out to these asshole even sick of this crap. 1191 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,640 This is how Danny gets his cardio in No, because New York State's 1192 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,359 run by a bunch of freaking idiots. I don't know, you're highly paid 1193 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,159 assholes. Who's just who just want to like, just continue to George Sorow's 1194 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:51,119 this country away. That's what it is. That's what it is. State's 1195 01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:56,680 a big shock. Rochester is a joke. We've we've just turned this freaking 1196 01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:00,520 state into a dump, and guys like this are getting rude because of stupid 1197 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,319 policy. It is a stupid policy, but it's a store policy. I 1198 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:11,119 understand. Store policy is not. You can say it's because of the laws 1199 01:23:11,239 --> 01:23:15,840 or not. Look, I don't know what's because they're worried that there's going 1200 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:23,960 to be some lawsuit against them. Cared about my employee after that, Even 1201 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,920 after they fired me, they would have called the Ironicqoit police and said we've 1202 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,479 got video of this guy. You need to catch them. But no, 1203 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,560 they're worried that something's going to happen in the store and they will be sued. 1204 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:38,439 And I also think that they'll be riots or something. But I don't 1205 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,680 think that it's a store policy in New York. I think it's a store 1206 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,840 policy across the nation. It probably is. It is. So do you 1207 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,039 think there's a situation the same way. I have no idea. I don't 1208 01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:53,960 know. I'm not but all I'm saying is, like when we may not 1209 01:23:54,199 --> 01:24:00,520 in Florida, we make no I understand. My point is that the store 1210 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,159 policy is a store policy, and you know part of the reason, like 1211 01:24:04,279 --> 01:24:08,840 even what Laura said whe her her boyfriend said, like the security guard isn't 1212 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,640 going to risk it over whatever. We don't know what this person has, 1213 01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:15,840 I think, so I can't say that it's necessarily lost. Yes, our 1214 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,359 laws and yes we have flaws in New York State, there's flaws in I'm 1215 01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:21,800 not going to deny that. I just don't know that this isn't necessarily indicative 1216 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:26,680 of that, because it could be the same policy in a big lot. 1217 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,239 I kind of went off there, but I mean the poind of went off. 1218 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:35,760 Well, I mean see that it doesn't but does it not make sense 1219 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,119 to allow people to just steal stuff? Well, and it's okay, you 1220 01:24:41,279 --> 01:24:45,560 can't choose. And he allowed people to steal stuff. This was a situation 1221 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,159 where a woman was a coworker, his employee customer was assaulted and a customer 1222 01:24:51,319 --> 01:24:57,399 was assaulted and I had to do. I mean, it's just I just 1223 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,399 I just my heart just breaks for you. Patrick. It really well, 1224 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,920 thank you, Patrick. I do want to thank you. I want to 1225 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,560 follow up on a day that Danny's not here. Yeah, call me anytime, 1226 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,840 give me tomorrow. If you like, log it, look it, 1227 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,159 log it, leg it. How I agree? Uh? Real quickly, 1228 01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:19,399 Bill, let me just tell you. Let me just tell you. I've 1229 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:24,279 listened to you for years. I know you're in a similar situation with your 1230 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,800 job recently. But you know I've always I've always loved you with the two 1231 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,199 wheel and prior to that, when you're we all those things. So anything 1232 01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:35,239 you need, if it helps your show, call me a time. Yeah, 1233 01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:39,520 I just I just think it's a it's a great it's an interesting story, 1234 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,920 and it's a human interest story. And to Danny's point, uh, 1235 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,760 this one, I don't think he broke store policy, right right, No, 1236 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,000 I don't think. I don't think there's a policy. I don't think 1237 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,399 we have a policy that says what to do if somebody's attacked in your store. 1238 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,920 Certainly then they would allow me to call the police, I suppose. 1239 01:25:57,319 --> 01:26:00,840 But all right, yeahd that I appreciate at it. And uh, we 1240 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,039 do need to run, but we'll let's talk again soon. Take care and 1241 01:26:03,079 --> 01:26:09,720 good luck with everything. You got it by his phone broke up. I 1242 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,840 did not hang out. That's what was breaking up throughout the call. 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I saw I am known for at the gym. Yeah, 1286 01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:16,439 whenever there's a good song going on, I will dance with the gem like 1287 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:29,159 even if I'm nig Like. I saw the the uh sex Toy Party the 1288 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,880 I should It's not the sex Toy Party, it's BUILDO. It's the Buildo 1289 01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:35,960 Party, UH June twenty seventh. And then this is getting bigger and bigger. 1290 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,479 What's gonna happen if somebody walks in steals a bunch of loube and walks 1291 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,840 out of your house, so you go chase after it. Don't chase, 1292 01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,520 no, because what if they dumped the lube and you slip and hit your 1293 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,000 head. All of a sudden, You're suing Laura bad stuff. You're sueing 1294 01:29:47,039 --> 01:29:51,000 Doug Felp. That's what I'm saying, Like Kevin, I understand the store 1295 01:29:51,079 --> 01:29:55,439 policy behind it. I mean, it sounds sort of shitty and counterintuitive, 1296 01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,319 but at the same time, unless it's your store, you know what I 1297 01:29:59,399 --> 01:30:03,680 mean, are you doing so you just I don't get that they can't even 1298 01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:10,039 prevent it in the store. Uh yeah, I don't know. I mean 1299 01:30:10,119 --> 01:30:12,640 unless you you know, all of a sudden you taste somebody. I guess 1300 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,920 the worst part of that story was the way they fired him, like the 1301 01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:19,840 senior manager telling him, hey, could you write this down? I think 1302 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,720 the write up is something you normally do if there was, you know, 1303 01:30:24,359 --> 01:30:28,159 a theft the day before, or let's say, I would have made it 1304 01:30:28,319 --> 01:30:30,279 so complicated because I know when that happens, you got to like make him 1305 01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:33,359 really you want to flare me, you better earn this. Agnes Dolan came 1306 01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:36,439 in and she slipped in the aisle of Uh. She was trying to get 1307 01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,960 some lotion or something. You got to probably write up something I would assume. 1308 01:30:42,359 --> 01:30:46,000 All right, here's here's a story that I'm not sure if what to 1309 01:30:46,119 --> 01:30:53,439 think of this. Rory McElroy is calling off his divorce. I almost sent 1310 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,760 that to you last night. Oh yes, on Instagram calling off is divorce, 1311 01:30:59,159 --> 01:31:02,239 and I started to think, I go good for him. Those divorce 1312 01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:05,359 proceedings must have been filled with hazards. Man, I know what it was 1313 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,800 because it's cheap well to keep it. I don't know, let me ask. 1314 01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:15,399 But here's the deal. I'm pretty sure he is his estimated networth now 1315 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,319 that means shitty owns and all that stuff. Yeah, his membership at Okay, 1316 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:24,640 what do you think it is his estimated networth about? I think it's 1317 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,239 one hundred million dollars. Okay? Oh, Laura, I was gonna go 1318 01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:32,680 like seventy two hundred and fifty five million dollars. So even if you lost 1319 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,920 half, are you doing so bad? So? Is it possible that, 1320 01:31:38,199 --> 01:31:41,079 like I was trying to find, I don't know what your goals are in 1321 01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:44,399 life? What do you mean if his goal is to like? Okay, 1322 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,960 well, John bon Jovi fied Richie Sambora, so he could take a bigger 1323 01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:50,479 chunk of bon Jovi and go buy the Buffalo bills. Now, who knew 1324 01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,840 bon Jovi had that kind of cash where like it was like nine figures but 1325 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,199 he needed more like ten or eleven or ten or eleven. But the point 1326 01:31:58,319 --> 01:32:00,920 is is, though, is that like, if you're Rory mclory and you're 1327 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,159 worth two hundred million, you know you want three hundred, you want five 1328 01:32:03,239 --> 01:32:06,039 hundred, maybe you want a billion. I have no idea. I like 1329 01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:12,840 Peyd Manning's worth almost a billion dollars. Trying to figure out the percentage of 1330 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:17,560 people who called off divorce and and made it to the end, right, 1331 01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:24,600 I don't know, because I know I know somebody who got divorced and then 1332 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,680 remarried the same person, had another kid, and then got divorced again. 1333 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:35,680 So I I have a theory. Yeah, because he he could be it 1334 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,039 could be like he's in love or could have been. I don't know. 1335 01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:43,399 Well, so there was the story that he was like talking to the one 1336 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,159 reporter. No I don't know this. Oh no, they had said that 1337 01:32:47,399 --> 01:32:54,880 Rory was like seen hugging another journalist or because I kept hearing that he was 1338 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,920 playing golf too much, is what I was told. Well, that's kind 1339 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,880 it does. Yes, I know which your job, you work too much? 1340 01:33:02,399 --> 01:33:08,279 No, he had been seen like hugging some sports reporter or someone who 1341 01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:13,239 was around the tournaments. I have a feeling that maybe he was like, 1342 01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:21,520 got what's the word, infatuated with her and like thought of possibly pursuing her, 1343 01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:26,520 and maybe he was like, we're gonna get a divorce news just in 1344 01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:30,159 she has no interest, and then I would have to look it up. 1345 01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:34,039 I'm sure if we google, like Rory mcar, I will do that while 1346 01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:40,000 you continue. But that my thought, just hearing this, seeing this last 1347 01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:44,520 night, is that he maybe developed feelings for this woman. Maybe there was 1348 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,920 flirting and then he decided to start with the divorce, go and pursue this 1349 01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:55,399 other woman. CBS journalist Amanda no I thought, maybe you'd know, Danny. 1350 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,199 Uh. I'm not going to fill in a gap, but you know 1351 01:34:00,039 --> 01:34:05,239 well io n I s Balanos eies Amanda Bally's spark romance rumors in the wake 1352 01:34:05,279 --> 01:34:11,479 of his divorce with wife Erica Stole with Flirty TV interviews. After married reporter 1353 01:34:12,079 --> 01:34:16,479 ditches her ring he's filed for divorce. She ditched her wedding ring and abandoned 1354 01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:24,199 her married name Amanda. And then there was like a picture of them hugging 1355 01:34:24,359 --> 01:34:27,760 or something. Hey girl, So I'm thinking that maybe they were two married 1356 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,319 people got infatuated with each other, thought that they were going to run off, 1357 01:34:30,359 --> 01:34:35,039 and then maybe he like you know, excitedly did this and then took 1358 01:34:35,079 --> 01:34:38,239 a step back in his life. You would have loved to have been here 1359 01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:41,560 yesterday he got her. You would have loved to have been here, yes, 1360 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,239 And listen, shit, well you know what I would like you to 1361 01:34:45,399 --> 01:34:51,560 go. Listen to the third segment of yesterday's podcast when you get a chance, 1362 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,039 because I talked to a woman. Her name is Danielle, and I 1363 01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,840 found Danielle on TikTok and she is called openly committed. Oh this is yeah, 1364 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,920 you've been trying to get a yes, so not even thropling she and 1365 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,119 her husband and this is the thing like and I'll ask you, guys, 1366 01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:12,800 and I already I don't even need to I don't even need to ask. 1367 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,319 I don't like to be asked. And I'm not I'm not, I know, 1368 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,439 because there is no point. There is no point. But already wrote 1369 01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:24,119 your answer down. We already know its needs to hear it. Okay, 1370 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:30,039 here, here is my so she and her husband are openly committed. Okay, 1371 01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:32,840 and I will say and I even said this, and you can see 1372 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:39,439 some of it on on my social media's uh that she makes sense because what 1373 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:45,439 she I'll give you an example. She said that their lives are so intertwined 1374 01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:49,520 that when they go on a date, she and her husband, there's always 1375 01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:55,840 talk of business and business being like the family. Eventually it comes to financial 1376 01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:00,439 goals or planning for the kids' education or whatever. She goes, when I 1377 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,960 go out on a date, yeah about that stuff. Oh yeah, I 1378 01:36:06,039 --> 01:36:09,600 know the wills and stuff. But when I go on a date, she 1379 01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:13,920 said, I get to be She goes, it's like I'm on vacation. 1380 01:36:14,039 --> 01:36:16,279 She goes, I talk about trips and books I'm reading, and I get 1381 01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:19,319 to be the hot version myself, and I'm sort of not a mom in 1382 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:24,000 those moments and all this. And she even said later on, she goes, 1383 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,239 it's really hard to be that with your husband who has seen you give 1384 01:36:27,319 --> 01:36:32,119 birth. Now, I don't know how you would feel about that. I 1385 01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:36,720 have a feeling that you have a very like you'd be open to that discussion. 1386 01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,000 I don't need to. I'm not trying to ruin any relationship you have 1387 01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:43,640 or make it uncomfort. But I don't know why you po I go. 1388 01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,439 I even said, there's a woman who is normally on the podcast. I 1389 01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,359 think she'll be disappointed she's not here for this interview, and that would be 1390 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:56,600 you because you. I think that there's like a curiosity my thing was And 1391 01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,800 this is where I think Danny, I can't wrap my head around this because 1392 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,119 she even said, Look, my husband and I our lives are so intertwined. 1393 01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:08,520 We've been together for fourteen years. We've been through the death of a 1394 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:15,720 parent together, We've had job changes together, We've had a transatlantic move together, 1395 01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:21,800 to which I said, isn't that the stuff like I think we mistakenly 1396 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:26,960 look at sex as being intimate, but that's not. You can have sex 1397 01:37:27,039 --> 01:37:30,600 with anybody and it can mean something or not mean something. As a matter 1398 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,680 of fact, everything is neutral until you give it meaning, but either way. 1399 01:37:33,079 --> 01:37:36,359 But this other stuff, to me is the more intimate stuff. You 1400 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,680 were there to hold me when I was losing it over the loss of a 1401 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:44,680 parent. You were there to help me as we were leaving a place I 1402 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,560 loved, but we knew it was the best for our family, and you 1403 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,159 know, all those things. To me, that's the foundation. I go, 1404 01:37:50,319 --> 01:37:55,319 don't you sort of ruin the foundation when all of a sudden it's like, 1405 01:37:55,359 --> 01:37:57,800 what are you doing Friday? Ah, It's gonna go out with this 1406 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,000 hot new guy. I mean, I'm hoping that he bends me over the 1407 01:38:00,039 --> 01:38:02,880 sink. You know, I'm not that that happens, but I'm just saying, 1408 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,600 oh, I'm sure it does. So I've never asked, by the 1409 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,920 way, in the interview on purpose, I never asked about sex because I 1410 01:38:10,039 --> 01:38:13,920 just assumed that you're an adult. But you're probably having sex. You're probably 1411 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,600 having sex, and you are, and whether you know, do you use 1412 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,600 protection? I'm sure, Like it's none of my business. I'm more interested 1413 01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:25,920 in the phil for lack of a better term, the philosophical side of this. 1414 01:38:26,319 --> 01:38:29,760 How do you make this work? How do you separate what I just 1415 01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:35,079 said, what I believe is the true intimacy in a relationship versus just yeah, 1416 01:38:35,159 --> 01:38:40,600 yeah, I mean, Laura, I have thoughts. I can't wait 1417 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:44,399 and I have you know, there's a few different aspects that I would wonder. 1418 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:50,560 I want to know, is her marriage passionate at all because you can 1419 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:56,359 have this intertwining of life and everything that you've gone through together. I was 1420 01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,279 with Ethan for thirteen years. We've moved housees, had kids, got yeah, 1421 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,479 different jobs, went through a lot of shit, but like, we 1422 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:08,920 had absolutely no passion. If you still have that passion, then like it 1423 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,000 sounds like they It sounds like they do. But he was the one who 1424 01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:15,159 approached her about doing it. And then since then she got outed by a 1425 01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:19,319 family member who her mom said to this person, like, why can't you 1426 01:39:19,359 --> 01:39:23,279 and your husband be like my daughter and her? And they go, yeah, 1427 01:39:23,359 --> 01:39:26,800 well your daughter's marriage and blew it all up. So she wound up 1428 01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,560 telling her mom. She's then started doing this TikTok thing. She's been picked 1429 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:35,039 up by Newsweek and her videos have gone viral. They're not if you saw 1430 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:40,079 this woman, Danielle to me, she's like the all American. She looks 1431 01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:43,279 very all American, and I wouldn't expect anything like that, not that that's 1432 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,319 one way or the other. But I thought, okay, but this is 1433 01:39:46,399 --> 01:39:50,920 how it works for them. And as she said, depending on the state, 1434 01:39:51,960 --> 01:40:00,119 the statistics for cheating run between thirty and sixty percent. The polyamorous I 1435 01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:03,960 don't know. Open openly committed runs three to five percent, so I guess 1436 01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,279 you're being a little more honest, but it would be weird to me. 1437 01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:11,640 And she said, I've even met women my husband has gone on dates with. 1438 01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,600 And I said, didn't you don't you get jealous? And she said, 1439 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,439 not for the reasons you think And as a great interviewer, the follow 1440 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,920 up question would be explained, right, And I didn't ask, yeah, 1441 01:40:21,199 --> 01:40:25,560 I didn't I feel like you feel. I would say for the reasons I 1442 01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,279 would think is like, hey, he's mine, and I think for her, 1443 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,279 I don't know what the jealousy would be. And there's two types of 1444 01:40:31,319 --> 01:40:34,199 cheating in my opinion, there's the emotional cheating one. That's a big one. 1445 01:40:34,279 --> 01:40:38,479 I think emotional cheating and I think, yes, I think a lot 1446 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:44,000 of people struggle with that, especially like when husbands have work wives and you 1447 01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:49,239 know, they get really connected with them or vice versa. But yeah, 1448 01:40:49,319 --> 01:40:57,079 I would really wonder, like how her actual passion was with her husband, 1449 01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,760 because I'm thinking, if she's saying she wants to go and talk books and 1450 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,760 stuff with these guys on the dates, what about girlfriends? It was what 1451 01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:09,399 I thought too. That's my girls dinners that I'm I'm out with my girlfriends 1452 01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:14,439 all the time because that's who I travel with and talk like all the fun 1453 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,199 things there. They're deep into it now, to the point where they were 1454 01:41:16,279 --> 01:41:20,960 talking to their ten year old son about their lifestyle. Oh yeah, what 1455 01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:25,840 they oh, And that only came out because a kid that went to school 1456 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,199 has two dads and and that came out as a weird. So they started 1457 01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:32,600 talking and she said, look, people in the neighborround taking the school library. 1458 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,960 That explains everything. Yeah, It's like, okay, so are they 1459 01:41:38,319 --> 01:41:41,560 dating the same person over and over? I don't know. She said she 1460 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,840 fell in love a few times. That's what she said. Okay, that's 1461 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:46,760 okay, that's a problem. I know, I love that's a problem. 1462 01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:50,479 I agree too. But here's the thing that the thing is like I can't 1463 01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:55,119 get all worked up about somebody else and then and I think that frustrates people, 1464 01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:57,880 Like there are certain things like you know, someone can send me an 1465 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,680 articles and I go, I get it, but I have no control over 1466 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,920 that. As long as their lifestyle isn't hurting me what they choose to do, 1467 01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,319 they're not abusing their kid, maybe their kids more open mind, I 1468 01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:11,560 have no idea. I can't figure that out. I can tell you this 1469 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,039 that wouldn't be for me. Your kids are watching your example, not what 1470 01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,359 you say. No, I understand. But if the example is loving and 1471 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,800 kind and support, it is. But there's all. But you only get 1472 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:27,600 the pr version of everybody's story. Let me tell you something. I believe 1473 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,119 this wholeheartedly. Everything is great. When everything is great, wait till somebody 1474 01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:35,479 loses a job. Wait till somebody loses a testicle or an ovary, or 1475 01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:40,239 has to go to the hospital, or you know, has a strict as 1476 01:42:40,279 --> 01:42:43,000 a sick parent that they have to take care of. Then when the chips 1477 01:42:43,039 --> 01:42:45,840 get down, the other person will feel bad for you for a while. 1478 01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:48,399 Then they'll start to feel bad for themselves, and history has shown us that 1479 01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:54,079 they will start drifting and start seeking other comforts, and then that other person 1480 01:42:54,199 --> 01:42:58,880 now becomes the rock and the relationship starts to suffer. Look, I don't 1481 01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,000 know. It sounds like I hear what you're saying, and that sounds like 1482 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,600 you might have lived that I've heard this from. But I understand and I 1483 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:11,319 get it. All makes sense. It's it's human nature. It sounds like 1484 01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:15,199 she and her husband talk a lot, and he did ask her at two 1485 01:43:15,279 --> 01:43:18,119 points in their marriage to go monogamous, and they did. She did, 1486 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:26,000 And then so how long have they said? Eight years? So this is 1487 01:43:26,319 --> 01:43:29,079 long. Yeah, it sounds like they've been doing this for eight years. 1488 01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:35,119 So I had two points in my marriage that I told my husband are you 1489 01:43:35,399 --> 01:43:41,520 interested in pursuing anything else? One was rape before we got married, because 1490 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,159 so I said to her last night, I go listen if a woman ever 1491 01:43:48,319 --> 01:43:53,479 came to me and said, hey, what do you think about like being 1492 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,760 committed to each other? But we sort of see other pe I go, 1493 01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,800 I think my sphincter would get tight and I would feel like I'm not enough. 1494 01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:01,279 I would feel like I would feel inadequate. Yeah that's how I should 1495 01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:05,439 feel. Okay. So the first time was before we got married, even 1496 01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:11,479 hadn't been with many people, and I was like, do you want like 1497 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,439 one last chance to go out like with a bank? Yeah? Okay, 1498 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:20,279 and he he I it would be weird. It would be weird. It 1499 01:44:20,319 --> 01:44:24,720 would be weird, but you I think, see then I would in my 1500 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,520 head it would be she wants to go on. I was more experienced than 1501 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,479 he was, Like okay, So that and then why did you want him 1502 01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:38,079 to be more experienced if the person's the person was, it was very much 1503 01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:42,319 do you want this opportunity? Like I don't know, do you want to 1504 01:44:42,359 --> 01:44:45,960 go have like a drunken one night stand, like just so you can feel 1505 01:44:45,039 --> 01:44:49,880 like I don't know. When I met him, I was so like, 1506 01:44:50,319 --> 01:44:57,159 I am not ready to get married. Em I just be on my comprehension. 1507 01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,840 I know, I know, I feel for it because you were in 1508 01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,479 a I'll be honest, you were. You were in a passionless, loveless 1509 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:06,000 marriage. But this was before they even got married. But I mean like 1510 01:45:06,079 --> 01:45:09,800 like the signs were the tails were all there, Like the tails were my 1511 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,319 ex wife too. I I blew by them by those stop signs. They 1512 01:45:13,359 --> 01:45:15,880 just kept going. So I'll make it work. Oh, I'll make it 1513 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:17,159 work. I'll make it work. I'll make it work. My wedding was 1514 01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:20,119 one of the most miserable days for everybody else there. And I could tell 1515 01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:27,119 by the looks in their faces, including bills, that an event to go 1516 01:45:27,239 --> 01:45:30,720 to bro no no, no. I could tell by everybody there were more 1517 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:38,479 people at that wedding who were like, let's get so much fun. It 1518 01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:42,720 was an honest reaction because you guys were all and I mean everybody was right. 1519 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,760 This was not supposed to work and it didn't. Ad No, I've 1520 01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,840 got to relive in that in my head. But yeah, I questioned. 1521 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:54,199 I definitely questioned the wedding. What was the second thing? So, you 1522 01:45:54,279 --> 01:45:58,760 know, we had been in marriage therapy after five years in our marriage, 1523 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,920 and I don't know point. I know, I was like, do you 1524 01:46:01,279 --> 01:46:05,640 want to have an open marriage? Like because he traveled so much? And 1525 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:10,079 I was like, do you want it where like if you travel, you're 1526 01:46:10,079 --> 01:46:17,600 allowed to go we did not have physical chemistry like, and so what did 1527 01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,760 he say to that? He thought about it for a little bit, Like 1528 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,079 I actually remember him coming back from the gym the next day and he was 1529 01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:26,199 like, yeah, it crossed my mind, like what if I could go 1530 01:46:26,279 --> 01:46:30,319 sleep with that woman? And I was like okay, Like but then it 1531 01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:33,680 didn't come to fruition, but had first you have to have game, dude. 1532 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,159 But you think that that might have helped your marriage, I don't know, 1533 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:46,520 like would have created this would have brought passion in what you know, 1534 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,760 like and you would have been okay with sharing. I want to have wanted 1535 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:56,760 him to like date other people like that. But like this is an ice 1536 01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,319 cream bill, but a random hook up once in a while. Yeah, 1537 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:04,920 I don't know. I guess I'm I don't have that like chip in my 1538 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:10,039 heart that like sex has to be with someone who you're in love with, 1539 01:47:10,399 --> 01:47:13,640 Like I think it could have just been like how about now, yeah, 1540 01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:16,800 the relationship you're in now, how about now? I love him very much? 1541 01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,800 This is this is where like the questions come now. Okay, well, 1542 01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:23,840 so you do have that chip in your heart. You just didn't have 1543 01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,880 that chip in your heart with that dude. Yeah that's sure. There you 1544 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,439 go, Yeah, there you go. When you change the circumstances everything, 1545 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,479 Yeah, it's the right person. Yeah, no, Now I would kill 1546 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:39,880 Jes tonight a night would Yeah. Okay, yeah, there's your answer. 1547 01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,800 Here's an interesting story I heard. I'm glad you're here because I was going 1548 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:45,920 to do this. Can we wrap up with Rory real quick? Though? 1549 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:47,600 What do you want to say about Well, the thing is, it's like 1550 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,399 she took him back. This woman took him back. So either she really 1551 01:47:50,399 --> 01:47:54,920 I don't think she wanted the divorce he filed. Okay, so she either 1552 01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,600 really really loves him and wants us to work out, or she loves being 1553 01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,359 missus Rory Backleroy, Well, one of the we're gonna find out that this 1554 01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,920 is This is why I I I was looking to see if there's percentages on 1555 01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:09,199 and I don't even know how you would figure it out. I mean you 1556 01:48:09,279 --> 01:48:15,199 could, but people who have tried this, right, I filed and I 1557 01:48:15,319 --> 01:48:16,720 think that this is gonna blow up. I'm gonna tell you why. Because 1558 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:21,760 Rory McElroy has already put the idea out there that he wanted somebody else and 1559 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:26,319 one of the top golfers, one of the top athletes, most recognizable athletes 1560 01:48:26,359 --> 01:48:32,279 in the world, just got the stiff arm and he's gonna have that until 1561 01:48:32,319 --> 01:48:35,920 he gets over this for a long time. And that's gonna be hard to 1562 01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:40,239 overcome, especially in a relationship. It's it's gonna be tough. It's gonna 1563 01:48:40,239 --> 01:48:43,640 be I hope they make it. I really do, because she's from here, 1564 01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,760 and I hope that they it works out for him. But man, 1565 01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:49,239 it's it's gonna be tough. That's all. So there's a uh so I 1566 01:48:49,319 --> 01:48:55,439 heard about this. This is an interesting story. Woman who went on a 1567 01:48:55,520 --> 01:49:01,279 dating app like mid thirties, meets a guy. Uh he's in the Syracuse 1568 01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:05,600 area. They went on a couple of dates and they would see each other 1569 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:10,840 like twice a week because he's there, she's here, and it was kind 1570 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,000 of you know, they were dating. And I think they went on I'm 1571 01:49:14,079 --> 01:49:15,840 going to say less than ten dates from what I understood in the story, 1572 01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:21,960 and she was thinking of like breaking it off, like just standing it just 1573 01:49:23,119 --> 01:49:29,199 you know, the distance, the stuff. It was okay, And dude 1574 01:49:30,119 --> 01:49:32,359 gets hit by a car and killed. Yeah, before she does that, 1575 01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:42,479 so, uh, his she goes to the obviously right all the stuff funeral, 1576 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:46,279 Yeah, all that stuff, and had never I don't think it had 1577 01:49:46,319 --> 01:49:50,199 ever been formally introduced to his parents, but certainly you know no. And 1578 01:49:50,279 --> 01:49:59,800 I think they were talking and the mother sense sort of glombed on loss of 1579 01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:04,000 his on and says, he, you know, he told I heard about 1580 01:50:04,079 --> 01:50:08,239 you. He told me that he was in love. Blah blah blah. 1581 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,920 And she hasn't had the heart. So now the family is trying to get 1582 01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:18,760 her to come to their lake house for the weekend. She doesn't know what 1583 01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:24,560 to say. Hey, this is too raw for me, I know, 1584 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:30,720 but but it is hard. But the whole thing is so awkward. The 1585 01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:34,720 whole thing is just awkward. Yes, obviously you can. You can boundary 1586 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,760 when you date. When you date, there's always somebody who likes the other 1587 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,600 person more than the other person likes them. Every time, very rare until 1588 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,960 you find the right match, okay, because usually, like you know, 1589 01:50:45,319 --> 01:50:47,640 most of them. I tell my I told people all the time I go, 1590 01:50:48,319 --> 01:50:51,039 most of the people you date are going to end up You're not gonna 1591 01:50:51,079 --> 01:50:54,239 end updating. The only person you end up with is the last one. 1592 01:50:54,479 --> 01:51:00,319 Yeah. Usually you know sometimes like the last, the last, that's right, 1593 01:51:00,359 --> 01:51:03,520 that's why. But this is an easy one. Hey, you know 1594 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:08,199 what, Hey, missus so and so, your son was great. I 1595 01:51:08,319 --> 01:51:11,640 really need to move on, and he I appreciate the invitation. Hey, 1596 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,000 let's exchange addresses and Christmas cards, maybe some cookies once in a while. 1597 01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:19,720 We could have coffee or even just nothing. I think you just I'm hard 1598 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,520 stop. Yeah, I would be hard stop too. I just thought the 1599 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,960 story was like, I go, wow, because you get that guilt feeling 1600 01:51:27,319 --> 01:51:30,079 and you try to be there and when someone's so emotional and so, it's 1601 01:51:30,119 --> 01:51:34,640 a devastating, unexpected, devastating devastation. She could say like, I'm glad 1602 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:40,359 that, like your son thought so highly of me. I thought very highly 1603 01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:44,760 of him, but like, I need to mourn this in my own and 1604 01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:46,239 it would be too I'm never going to be able to move on at my 1605 01:51:46,359 --> 01:51:49,680 age if I continue. Yeah, I also think that as a woman, 1606 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:54,920 you should have never met, like the family had never met. And yeah, 1607 01:51:55,119 --> 01:52:00,359 I've known people who have had early on in the marriage brain aneurysm. 1608 01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:09,640 Husband's gone right something and the mother of the son who died saying to the 1609 01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:14,520 woman, you gotta move on. Oh, yeah, you shouldn't be alone 1610 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,000 with them, you know, you know, and I know there are kids 1611 01:52:16,039 --> 01:52:20,279 and things and they're like, was very supportive of all. So I think 1612 01:52:20,359 --> 01:52:25,680 that, you know, everybody's different night, but my thing was pretty much, 1613 01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,840 you gotta draw boundaries. You draw boundaries, and there's nothing wrong with 1614 01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,720 that. Don't feel guilty about that. Guilt is the thing that people love 1615 01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:36,520 to weaponize. Don't and you can't weaponize it against yourself. No, Well 1616 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:42,439 that's the thing. It's like, somebody else's grief is not your behavior. 1617 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,800 We gotta get rid of it with anything. Jerry West died today. Yes 1618 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,039 he did. The logo Jerry West is the logo for the NBA. He 1619 01:52:48,199 --> 01:52:51,159 is eighty six years old. It was eighty six years old, not anymore. 1620 01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:57,119 I did not realize that he was with the Clippers. Now, yeah, 1621 01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:00,479 he was consulting with the Clippers, and I just started watch it on 1622 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,239 FX clipped. Have you seen this? No, I haven't. Oh, 1623 01:53:03,279 --> 01:53:08,119 it's the whole story of how like the owner when they had to give up 1624 01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:14,720 the team this. Yeah, I thought you were going to talk about Jeff 1625 01:53:15,359 --> 01:53:18,439 Lakers series. That was one of my favorites. Jerry Jerry West didn't like 1626 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:23,720 the way because he was taken as but as I mean, I wanted to 1627 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:28,760 read you some stuff because uh, Adrian war Zanowski of ESPN wrote, he 1628 01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,720 never stopped. That's what Steve Bomber, who owns the Clippers now said. 1629 01:53:32,199 --> 01:53:36,720 And from Cabin Creek, West Virginia, to running with Will chamber Chamberlain Elgin 1630 01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:43,000 Baylor as a Laker, to orchestrating the La Lakers story of teenage phenomenon Kobe 1631 01:53:43,119 --> 01:53:45,840 Bryant, to coaching to a silhouette as the league's logo, no one else 1632 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,800 ever touched greatness in so many sectors of the sport. West will go into 1633 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:55,760 the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame this summer for an unprecedented third time, which 1634 01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:00,279 I think it's impressive. And then I didn't realize like all this stuff that 1635 01:54:00,399 --> 01:54:03,239 he I mean. He went on to talk about how he would take his 1636 01:54:03,359 --> 01:54:06,680 time to talk to people, but what a rough childhood he had. He 1637 01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:14,680 lost a brother in Korea. His father was an abusive alcoholic, and he 1638 01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:19,680 said he was not a happy guy. He was loving and loyal and generous 1639 01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:24,479 with his time and resources to those in his orbit that and also those that 1640 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:30,319 he didn't know. But geez I, it's just all the stuff. Memphis 1641 01:54:30,359 --> 01:54:33,600 Grizzlies, Golden State Warriors. He was really part of the whole getting Kevin 1642 01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,760 Durant to go to the Warriors thing. He was the one who put Shaq 1643 01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:41,159 and Kobe together. Yes, he orchestrated it. Was it a trade with 1644 01:54:41,279 --> 01:54:45,600 Memphis to get Kobe as the draft pick Charlotte yes, or Charlotte yeah. 1645 01:54:45,279 --> 01:54:48,479 Can you believe Kobe Bryant was taking thirteenth overall? But at the time he 1646 01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:53,039 was going out of high school, there weren't many high school like Sean Kemp 1647 01:54:53,199 --> 01:54:55,880 was like the poster child of high school players that could go to the NBA. 1648 01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,239 Right, you know, Kobe, by the way, it took Kobe 1649 01:54:58,319 --> 01:55:01,319 three or four years to become Kobe. He wasn't Kobe overnight. They had 1650 01:55:01,319 --> 01:55:04,760 to trade Nick van Exel to get him out of town so that Kobe could 1651 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:10,319 finally take over that role as the point guard. West reached the finals nine 1652 01:55:10,359 --> 01:55:13,640 times, with the Lakers winning in seventy two. He was Can you imagine 1653 01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:19,159 that like NBA Finals MVP nineteen sixty nine on the losing team. Yeah, 1654 01:55:19,439 --> 01:55:25,239 it's strange. Doesn't happen. Happening with Chuck Holly in Super Bowl very very 1655 01:55:25,399 --> 01:55:28,479 rare, Like we don't have that at all. It happened with a goaltender, 1656 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,960 I think for the Ducks in like two thousand and two or two thousand 1657 01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,079 and three. Okay, it does not happen very often. People argued that 1658 01:55:33,159 --> 01:55:38,399 Thurman Thomas should have gotten it in Super Bowl twenty five because he just obliterated 1659 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,000 Otis Sanderson as far as rushing yards go. Had the Bills won, it 1660 01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,039 would have been Thurman. Yeah, but they gave it to Otis because why 1661 01:55:45,039 --> 01:55:46,720 would you give it to the you know, losing losing team. But it 1662 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:50,479 doesn't happen very often, but it's happened. But yeah, that's that's too 1663 01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:55,319 bad. About Jerry West. I mean, like the guy literally taught NBA 1664 01:55:56,000 --> 01:56:00,079 executives how to run a franchise. Sure, yeah, and Bob Myers of 1665 01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:02,880 Golden State, like, what had Jerry West teach him how to run the 1666 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,800 Warriors? Warriors and the Warriors? And when the Warriors first blew themselves up, 1667 01:56:08,199 --> 01:56:13,319 they were getting booed and the people were not on board. They wouldn't 1668 01:56:13,319 --> 01:56:16,680 build a dynasty. And then Jerry West moved on. I mean he should 1669 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:19,479 still be he should have still been with the Lakers. But you know, 1670 01:56:20,359 --> 01:56:24,479 by the way, on the flip side, Hurley decides to turn down the 1671 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,720 Lakers job and they're the laughing stock of the association. Yeah, I said 1672 01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:30,279 it right here. I said he wouldn't take that job, No should he? 1673 01:56:30,439 --> 01:56:33,680 You know who they should hire? Did Rick Patino? Forget how to 1674 01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:39,399 coach? Uh? Tell me something? Who is more John Who is more 1675 01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,119 LA basketball coach than Rick Patino? Right now, he'd be the closest thing 1676 01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:45,039 you could have. I think to forget the Celtics thing, because if the 1677 01:56:45,079 --> 01:56:49,119 Celtics win the lottery instead of San Antonio, he gets Kevin Garnett and he's 1678 01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:54,520 probably going into the Hall of Fame as the greatest basketball coach perhaps ever. 1679 01:56:55,199 --> 01:56:58,279 That's possible. It's possible. I was always a fan because Greg Popovich like 1680 01:56:58,319 --> 01:57:00,720 the guy. Gosh, I don't want to get start. It would have 1681 01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:05,800 been Patino. You already believe. I apologize crazy. Yeah, for like 1682 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:09,680 two weeks worth of shows. You're five. By the way, I just 1683 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,600 want to say, like I would like, I didn't like the way I 1684 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,319 conveyed my thoughts and that they were really emotional and not real rational. I 1685 01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:17,880 just want to let that out. I like that. I like it because 1686 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,399 you get oh, I come off sounded like an idiot. That's my favorite 1687 01:57:21,439 --> 01:57:25,319 party. I don't like because I'm not. It's just my my words got 1688 01:57:25,359 --> 01:57:29,239 off foster than my thoughts. I here's what I like. Because you said 1689 01:57:29,279 --> 01:57:32,199 it. What did you call the coach? No, you went you said, 1690 01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,640 Dan went Dad. I thought that's what you said. Maybe I've heard 1691 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:41,199 that in my Dan went dad Dad. Yeah, Like you're like somebody's dad. 1692 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,840 I can't take it anymore. For a guy with no kids, I 1693 01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,279 know, well what I mean, it's good's all right. By the way, 1694 01:57:47,279 --> 01:57:50,199 I heard a show that you and Kevin did together. We're like, 1695 01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:55,319 I have two guys in my life who have no kids, have no kids, 1696 01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,920 but yet are all bent out of shape now the kids are being treated 1697 01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,560 in America. Yes, and I know it's me and Doug Feltch talking about 1698 01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:05,279 it was the two of you that both brought to me the story of kids 1699 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:12,760 in the boxes. And I went, but look, I can't. Doug 1700 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,479 sees what he sees, and your wife works with kids, so okay, 1701 01:58:16,039 --> 01:58:19,439 so I can't. I'm not. I just thought it was funny. Here's 1702 01:58:19,479 --> 01:58:21,880 the thing that I wasn't ripping. I'm like, you're right. No, 1703 01:58:23,239 --> 01:58:25,439 I realized, Holy cow, yeah, I'm the guy I say this. 1704 01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,319 I don't have kids, but man, I have all been out of shape 1705 01:58:28,359 --> 01:58:30,479 about it. I realized another crazy thing about all of us. You, 1706 01:58:31,319 --> 01:58:38,600 Me, Kevin, great, Stephanie, Matt All boys. Yeah, yeah, 1707 01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:42,319 a single daughter in there, that's true. Wow, Why we're vulgar 1708 01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:49,720 swear? Oh my god, the penis talk jokes? Yeah, I uh. 1709 01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:55,560 My thing is that I just can't get myself worked up over things that 1710 01:58:56,239 --> 01:59:00,880 don't affect me, which is a thing like I know, people get very 1711 01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:04,359 worked up about what's fair and what's not fair, and what's privilege and not 1712 01:59:04,479 --> 01:59:09,880 privilege. And my thing in certain situations is I think you got to look 1713 01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:14,840 at things a little bit deeper, try to understand things for for that instance, 1714 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,399 and you can't compare it to anything else. But people get mad about 1715 01:59:17,439 --> 01:59:20,000 that and then I go, but it doesn't affect me one way or the 1716 01:59:20,079 --> 01:59:23,840 other. You know what I'm saying. I have no power over this. 1717 01:59:24,039 --> 01:59:28,159 I had no way of deciding. So to me, it's burning calories on 1718 01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:30,600 the wrong thing. I understand that. I look at it as I want 1719 01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:34,840 to be informed. I understand the whyse, and then by understanding the whyse, 1720 01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:40,680 you understand the hows and the results of things, and maybe perhaps we 1721 01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:44,560 could change one thing or another with well, the I have to change what 1722 01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:47,279 I can. Only the only power you have to change anything would be then 1723 01:59:47,359 --> 01:59:50,880 to who you vote for? Well, you also vote you wals. That's 1724 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:55,000 it. Yeah, and that my so my whole thing is like, I 1725 01:59:55,079 --> 01:59:59,399 mean, look, you can get all burnt out about stuff. Yeah, 1726 01:59:59,479 --> 02:00:04,720 it's ridicul There was a controversy this past week, and I'll bet you you 1727 02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:08,239 don't. You have no idea which direction I would go with this. But 1728 02:00:08,479 --> 02:00:13,359 Caitlyn Clark, the big phenom rookie, was left off the US Women's should 1729 02:00:13,359 --> 02:00:15,680 have been. I agree, should have been, I agree, but but 1730 02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:19,840 she's not there yet. Christian Laitner wasn't there yet what he got on the 1731 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:24,359 Dream team in ninety two. But the thing is is that everybody's saying, 1732 02:00:24,439 --> 02:00:29,680 well, the people who don't watch women's basketball are piling on this and commenting 1733 02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:31,840 about it as if that they know what they're talking about. And I said, 1734 02:00:32,199 --> 02:00:35,399 I don't watch women's basketball, but I know this. Christian later didn't 1735 02:00:35,439 --> 02:00:40,439 belong in ninety two and Caitlin's only played nine games. What's back off here? 1736 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,079 I think the idea of the Olympics is that it was amateurs that, 1737 02:00:44,399 --> 02:00:46,439 oh, you have to be an amateur at certain sports like boxing. Isn't 1738 02:00:46,439 --> 02:00:50,560 gonna yeah right, Tyson's not going to fight, no, But that's my 1739 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:56,119 point now, right, So we have we have Jira in here, and 1740 02:00:56,239 --> 02:00:59,520 she's gonna, yeah, try to be on the Olympic boxing team, but 1741 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,239 she needs to keep her amateur status to do that. They changed it with 1742 02:01:02,439 --> 02:01:09,199 basketball, but Kaitlin Clark amazing right, putting more eyes on the sport, 1743 02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:13,119 which is also putting a target on her back because other players are going, 1744 02:01:13,239 --> 02:01:17,279 we've got more experience, We've been here longer and why now? Yeah? 1745 02:01:17,279 --> 02:01:20,319 And is she one of the twelve best players in the country. I don't 1746 02:01:20,319 --> 02:01:23,760 know she is. She could be, she might be, she could be. 1747 02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:26,880 I'll tell you this, as a rookie, wouldn't you want some time? 1748 02:01:27,279 --> 02:01:30,199 You just played an entire colic season and now you're into the WS. 1749 02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:34,720 You've played more games than you probably have in your life. Maybe maybe not. 1750 02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:36,840 I don't know. With AAU stuff, I don't know what they do. 1751 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:41,359 But but to that point, I go, so let her, so 1752 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,359 let it go. But on the flip side, we're talking about voting with 1753 02:01:44,439 --> 02:01:47,680 your wallets. America is not going to tune into the US women's basketball team 1754 02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:51,520 watching this summer than the Olympics. They're not, They're not. That decision 1755 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:55,960 is going to come back to bite them because Diana Tarassi's on the team. 1756 02:01:56,119 --> 02:02:00,239 Diana Rossi's one of the greatest, maybe not maybe the greatest women's basketball player 1757 02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:02,239 of all time, but she's not now and she doesn't deserve to be on 1758 02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:05,920 that team. So if they're gonna make that point, then you can make 1759 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:10,479 an honest point. And I don't agree with it. That and if you 1760 02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,680 want to grow the sport, that would be the perfect place. You would 1761 02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,000 have gotten a lot more USA. You would have gotten a lot more chance 1762 02:02:15,039 --> 02:02:19,079 for USA. But I think their point was we're here, We're here to 1763 02:02:19,119 --> 02:02:21,720 win gold. By the way, they were going to win gold no matter 1764 02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:25,600 what. They won't go seven times in a row. So in terms of 1765 02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:30,239 the Olympics, no offense. I don't think basketball is like high rank on 1766 02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:36,199 olymp like Summer Olympics. It is actually put the pros on there, which 1767 02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:41,159 by the way, most men the goal. And we've got pros over from 1768 02:02:41,239 --> 02:02:44,760 Europe that are playing, and then you know Eastern European players. So people 1769 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:46,640 actually like tune in to see if Team USA is gonna lose. Yeah, 1770 02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:51,359 because you've got because we're supposed to win. You've got so many players internationally 1771 02:02:51,439 --> 02:02:56,479 now that go back to their country. Right. So Jim Rome openly like 1772 02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:00,600 rooted against the Dream Team because this is where who's gonna beat them? Nobody 1773 02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:04,319 was going to be nobody. The Croatia had a lead for like minutes, 1774 02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:09,319 wasn't it. What What was the If you watch Michael Jordan we gotta wrap 1775 02:03:09,399 --> 02:03:14,039 this up. But if you watch Michael Jordan's uh documentary Last Dan The Last 1776 02:03:14,119 --> 02:03:18,039 Dance, well it was the whole thing was no. But who was the 1777 02:03:18,319 --> 02:03:24,399 international? Was it? Paul No, Paul Tony Kuko. Tony Tony Kukoch 1778 02:03:24,479 --> 02:03:27,159 was drafted by the Bulls. He didn't want to come to American play with 1779 02:03:27,239 --> 02:03:30,439 the Bulls, and but they went over there and they made a big deal 1780 02:03:30,479 --> 02:03:32,279 about getting him, and Jordan goes, I got him, and they're like, 1781 02:03:32,359 --> 02:03:34,239 no, no, we're gonna put the go I got him, I 1782 02:03:34,279 --> 02:03:39,239 got it, I got him, and he shut him down to just embarrass 1783 02:03:39,319 --> 02:03:45,680 him and basically to the unsent a non verbal message to the front office of 1784 02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:48,319 Chicago. We don't need him, right, we don't need Scottie pippenwant to 1785 02:03:48,359 --> 02:03:50,359 take a shot at him to George, like, none of them, I 1786 02:03:50,439 --> 02:03:55,119 got I got this, I got this. And then Kobe went right through 1787 02:03:55,239 --> 02:04:00,560 Powell in him, knocked him right down. Their teammates and the Lakers. 1788 02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:06,760 But one's playing for Spain and one's for us now. So that's what makes 1789 02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:11,279 the men's a little more exciting because you've got that level of competition. Yeah, 1790 02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,359 but other outside of that, you're right, baseball, we should probably 1791 02:04:14,359 --> 02:04:18,159 pay a little more attention to we don't, you know, box sports, 1792 02:04:18,439 --> 02:04:21,560 Yeah, like track and fuel. Yeah, track soccer, so much fun 1793 02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:26,239 to watch, sharing the Olympics swimming like By the way, it was thirty 1794 02:04:26,319 --> 02:04:29,159 years ago today that oj S has made the worst decision he could ever make. 1795 02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:31,359 It was June twelfth, nineteen ninety four. I did see somebody say 1796 02:04:31,399 --> 02:04:36,800 I am a friend of Nicole Simpson's youngest sister Tanya, and if you can 1797 02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:41,039 take a moment, just think of them, or help a domestic abuse like 1798 02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:44,079 Willow or something like that would be nice. All right, Laura, you 1799 02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:47,840 ready for this party? I am two weeks to prepare, two weeks to 1800 02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:51,760 prepare. It's right, it'll be a week. Bring it gets Kevin Asshirt's 1801 02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:57,640 his asset protection, the comedy, the comedy caravan at Remedy at finger Legs 1802 02:04:57,720 --> 02:05:00,800 Gaming and Racetrack. That'll be next Thursday, and then the Thursday after we 1803 02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:06,199 will have the big party. For Laura, who I think is intrigued by 1804 02:05:06,239 --> 02:05:10,640 the Open Open anymore. I think I talked her out of it, and 1805 02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:14,399 for Dan who is not happy with his rant. But I am I'm Bill 1806 02:05:14,479 --> 02:05:15,600 Murran. We'll see you tomorrow.