Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and
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from you as well. Molly, how's it going. It's going great.
And it occurred to me that probably starting in like a month or so,
we might do one or two radio listener comment shows. So get your questions
in now. We actually have a ton that we could probably just work with.
But for us to answer on a week that David and I are both
unable to tape a fresh podcast, Yeah, we did that during Christmas break,
I think, and it was I thought somewhat of a success. People
have lots of interesting questions. Do you think they're questioning why we have Hamas
terrorists taking over the sympathizers taking over our campuses. Do you think that that's
something that appeals to normal Americans that listen to our show or something that discussed
them. Well, that seems like a leading question, David, But it
is interesting that we are at the place this is sort of where the social
justice movement has brought us. It has been through quite a bit of carnage
and wreckage of American institutions, and it is reaching what is really a predictable
end of anti semitism. Okay, I just I feel like the language we're
using for all of this has not been serving us well, and so and
also this is a bit of throat clearing I have to do, but I
think it really does require being said. Policy differences are absolutely okay for debate,
and people have the right to protest. You might not like what they're
protesting about, you might really hate what they're protesting about, you might strongly
disagree, but you absolutely have a fundamental, natural right to argue for a
policy that you support, or to oppose, or to fight against a policy
you oppose, and that is really important that we protect that in this country.
And some of what I've heard have been even like people on the right
being like, this is hate speech, and hate speech is a made up
thing that's not real, and making people feel uncomfortable or making people feel fear
is such a nebulous measure by which to judge something that you just really should
avoid that type of language. At the same time, I have been super
annoyed with people acting like barring entry to public campus space is of some students
but not others, is a free speech issue. That's not a free speech
that's activity that is almost certainly prohibited and can even be viewed as false imprisonment.
You know, you saw some of these videos of them not letting Jewish
students walk in certain parts of the campus that they have every legal right to
be in, and taking over buildings and breaking windows like all that stuff is
not protected speech. Yeah, well it's obvious, but I just feel like
it still needs to be Like both the right of the students to advocate for
even for Hamas, yes, is protected. Running taking encampments, taking over
campuses like that, that's not necessarily protected. So I agree with everything you
just said. You're allowed to be pro Hamas. You don't even have to
be pro policy. You can just be an anti semit that's a protected speech.
There's no such thing as hate speech, just hateful speech maybe, but
that's subjective most of the time. However, there is this idea I think
that people have lately, and it goes across the board. Seems to me,
is that just because you have the right to speech means you have the
right to be anywhere and say anything, meaning I don't have We don't at
the federalists have to host you if you're going to be pro abortion just because
you have an opinion. And Columbia University, a private institution, has its
own rules, and you don't just get to shut down a school or create
an encampment in the middle of the school forever, or take over a building.
And I think you agree with this simply because you have an opinion.
Now, I would hope that schools would give as much leeway they can to
people to have a voice, you know, want to protest and have a
voice. But they warned people at Columbia for days to shut it down because
they've been going on and on intimidating other students, shutting down the school,
you know, that's what is it? Seventy k to go to that school
a year, I mean, and then they have to go and and ticket
down. So I think it's kind of funny that they started camping in April
and not right away on October eight, because it's so nice to camp in
April and May. Those are really good months to be camping. Outside in
tents that are very nice quality provided by Democrat donor groups like that's an who
I like camp I love camping in temperate climate. I wish these kids would
have been camping in December and January over there Christmas break, you know,
over their spring break, but still cold. Why did we not see that?
I don't know. I don't know. Isn't this kind of a problem
that will take care of itself in about two weeks when school is out.
Yeah it will because they won't be there, But that doesn't mean that there
won't be. I think that there will be some kind of leftists organization summer
of violence. Yeah, that will. That will that will get it going.
I just don't think it has the same resonance with the people in the
meaning like BLM could appeal to even and people of good faith it might have
who don't really pay attention. It can appeal to your you know, sense
of justice. You know there's there are there's racism, cops will shooting,
you know, whatever it was. But I don't think that this has the
same kind I think most Americans view people who were who wear you know,
who cover their face and act like you know, cossplay terrorists. You're so
excited to say something are going to have the same kind of appeal to any
kind of you know, mainstream American voter. This is what enrages me.
Okay, both of these movements are built on lies. One. You know,
the first lies were about the United States and about cops, you know,
flat out lying about the relationships between cops and black men and inserting it
into the minds like a virus of millions of young people, that cops are
evil and that they must be fought at all things. And like riots broke
out nationwide by the way, nobody cared, nobody squashed them, Nobody did
anything. While cities burned and people were killed, and corporations handed over one
hundred billion dollars in racist programming money. Nobody did a thing. And now
there are lies about Israel, and they're lying. They're the same lies.
By the way. Some people are oppressors and some people are oppressed, and
everything needs to be viewed through this prism of oppressor versus oppressed and victim,
you know, versus oppressor, and they're lies. Nobody fights the lies and
then they're shocked at the outcome. I think it's just as insidious to say
that America is an evil country. Well more insidious to say that America is
an evil country than that Israel is an evil country. Like, I don't
get why it's so special now. When people were cheering it on the media,
we're cheering it on in twenty twenty. Corporations were funding it. Every
Democrat member of Congress was cheering it on. So were people like Mitt Romney.
You know, so we're all the never Trump classes. When Trump was
fighting against some of this social justice stuff of tearing down statues, Mitch McConnell
egged it on, Like, I'm a little perplexed. Why now that it's
Israel, everybody's like, oh, this is bad. That's been bad.
It's been really, really really bad for a lot of Americans, and Jewish
students are very scared and they are not feeling free on campus. And that
is a bad thing, and it was a bad thing, is a bad
thing that that same thing is true of so many other students and so many
other children of Americans, Like, why do what's so special now? I
think that you're I think that what I said is different. I'm not saying
that you're wrong with the facts. I'm saying that. One of them is
it's easier to manipulate people when you think about and tell them that there's this
systemic racism going on and they don't want to be part of it, and
they're not paying close attention to what's really going on, and it's easier to
manipulate and blackmail them than when you're wearing terror's garb been yelling you know,
no Zionists on campus. It's just a little more obvious, I think,
and it's you know, then the BLM stuff was initially I think people have
caught up, probably caught on with that. We'll see, Yeah, I
actually do wonder if part of it is that people feel embarrassed that they fell
for the previous social justice info op and they're kind of like, we're not
going to let that happen again, and so they're reacting very strongly to this.
You travel a lot, you go to school, you speak to students
schools. Do you think that this is kind of like a major problem at
schools predominantly? Are they just I know that the professors and the administrators are
all left wingers, but do you think that in general there's just like this
pro identitarian, pro hamas pro sort of whatever sentiment amongst students or is it
just like a small minority making a lot of noise. No, I think
it's pretty I think it's pretty pronounced. And it's when you think about when
we went to school or I don't know where, what it was like at
your college, but mine's certainly was beholden to identity politics, particularly like Chicano
issues. They're in Colorado, as the groups liked to call themselves, and
identity politics was just was just a really big thing. They were even pro
Palestinian things at that time. But now we have much more control of the
universities at the faculty level by some of these people. It was already bad,
but now it's much worse. Colombia is a great example of it.
They have gone out of their way to staff up with these colonizing anti colonists
and racist anti racists who have been indoctrinating the students in their hateful way of
thinking, and they are bearing the fruits of it right now. But you
mentioned like this leftist on leftist violence, that's the I think. I'm kind
of like, why are the rest why are the rest of Americans America need
to get involved? Like let the left bury their own you know, they're
fighting their dealing with the consequences of their own bad decisions, like let them
handle it. Yeah, I agree with that, but there is there is
a problem with it because as soon as even as this is going on,
Biden is forgiving student loans, I mean, taxpayers back every student loan,
which makes Colombia possible. They have a sixteen billion dollar endowment, which is
just a big hedge fund, and yet we have to back every loan for
Let me give you read you something real quick. There's a teacher there,
professor named Mohammad Abdu. This is this is how he describes himself rohamas anarchist,
interdisciplinary activist, scholar of Indigenous, Black, critical race, and Islamic
studies as well as gender, sexuality, abolition and decolonization. Now, this
is a person who teaches at that school. And by the way, you
know who else used to teach it or yeah, I used to teach at
Columbia's Kathy Boden. It was a weather what were they called the weatherman,
mother of Chasa Bowden who yeah, just a terrorist guy, yeah, who
is involved in the murder. I believe of more than and cop. Wasn't
it security guards? It was a bank robbery. Good friends with Obama people,
and we are living in President Obama's Democrat Party. I mean, that's
what I just want to say. And now you have I know you have
stuff to add. I just want to say, weather underground that weather men.
Sorry. Barack Obama reshaped the Democrat Party into this racist identity politics party,
and it is completely beholden to that. And if people want to reject
what is happening to Jewish students on campus, that's good, but they need
to reject the entire thing. If Jewish Americans are upset about what Jewish American
kids are going through, they need to have They need to realize like they
ered by allowing it to happen for so many years, if not decades from
their copartisans, largely when other kids were being horribly treated on campus, or
not being given good educations, or being you know, subjected to this race
hatred, identity politics, hateful ideology of the left. You know who's going
to give the commencement address at Columbia this year, Kristin Clark. So did
you hear the news about Kristin Clark? She heads up the office of Civil
Rights at the Department of Justice. Did you hear did you see Mary Margaret
Olahan's scoop that she was that she had lied to Congress that scoop. Yeah,
So she had been asked in her hearings whether she'd ever been arrested or
accused of violence, and she said that she had not. And the fact
is that she was according to police documents and texts texts from her ex husband,
she was taken into custody after she allegedly knifed her husband and she caught
him having an affair and that was expunged. And so there's some debate about
whether expungement means you can lie about whether you'd ever been accused of a crime
or not. But it's pretty explosive news, you know, you think about.
Like Also, the other thing that was interesting about Mary Margaret Olahan's report
at the Daily Signal was that her ex husband was never interviewed by the FBI
when they did her background check. And I bring this up because when Brett
Kavanaugh went through some extreme like extremely invasive background checks, I think there were
six total that were done where multiple people were interviewed, you know, across
multiple years. Democrats were upset that more wasn't done, and it appears to
this woman was not vetted at all, even though she's in a very sensitive,
very important position at the Department of Justice, and they never interviewed her
ex husband, who she allegedly deeply cut with a knife. And it's just
very interesting. She hasn't responded to questions. But she is a radical,
and she is leading efforts to fight pro lifers and imprison them and go after,
you know, just go after different groups that do not support her pro
abortion agenda. She's using the federal government Justice Harman as a political goon squad,
basically arresting peaceful actual peaceful abortion activist, going after anyone who disagreed,
you know, disagrees with the administration, you know, if she can.
But I just want to quickly mention that's not the only thing she lied to
Congress about. She lied about the letter she wrote, you know, the
racist letter she wrote. She said it was it was in relation to this
book called The Bell Curve. Older people know about that, but the she
said it was satire, which was all complete and utter lie because at the
time the Harvard editors noted that it was a racist letter. No one mentioned
anything about satire. And then I don't know if you know this, she
wrote a Newsweek op ed in like twenty twenty that was headlined, I prosecuted
police killings. Defund the police, but be strategic, and they asked her,
did you want to defund the police, and she says she never wanted
to defund the police, even though right in the column itself it says,
we have to defund the police. Yeah, So she just basically lies and
gets away got away with it. I don't know what the vote was on
that, but and I generally, I know this is somewhat controversial, and
maybe I'm changing my mind on it, but I generally think administrations should have
people manning places, you know, manning positions that they want, unless that
person is corrupt or lies to Congress, and I think that she qualifies.
But anyway, so she's in this racist that's in charge of civil rights in
the country, enforcing civil rights, and that's where we are. It's like
she's a I want to mention, she's like a perfect example of kind of
the Ivy leade. She went to Harvard, the Ivy League, mediocrity,
the credentialed nit wits that we send out into the world who now run things.
So these folks you see at Columbia, and not one of them is
going to be expelled. They'll all be back next year no matter what they
did. They're going to be running institutions in this country. And that is
just should be scary to everyone, not just Jewish students, but every American.
And that's why I think it does matter. Christin Clark, who's imprisoning
Joe Biden's political opponents in her role, will be giving the commencement at Columbia.
Is that what you said? I believe, so, yeah, that's
you know, totally expected. But also I just think the whole higher ed
system needs to be blown up. It's just the way metaphorically metaphorically the kind
of money and now you know, it's a I wrote about this, but
it's just a gigantic moral hazard that you can just go to school without any
taking any responsibility for the loans you take, for the things you learn.
The schools have feel no responsibility to create good citizens, to send them out
and the world to do productive things. I just don't even think anyone unless
they're doing a hard science and even there it's infected with this kind of ridiculous
wokeism, and it just gibberish. I just don't even know how someone and
you know, can go could pay that much money to send their kids to
one of these schools. It's just you might as well just burn that money.
It would be more productive. Sure, there are two things. There're
one, if you're not receiving an actual classical liberal education, it really isn't
worth it to go to college, I would say, unless, like you
point out, there's a very specific field or some kind where you can navigate
that. But also, don't you think part of the issue here is that
like cutter funds, some of these universities, Oh my god, a lot
of the funding comes from places like that or terrorists enabling States nine. So
Northwestern, which gave in like protests, took over some whatever they did,
they negotiated with them, which is just it reminds me of like the New
York Times, where you let like the mob run the paper, you know
what I mean, You're like the mob run the school. They're supposed to
be teaching these kids, and they're giving into their demands. Whatever it was.
Northwestern Tate took over the whatever amount of years. I'm not exaggerating over
six hundred million dollars kutar So is it qutar or qatar? It's a guitar.
No, I'm not gonna do that. So I do I mean,
are I like you know, another aspect of this, I couldn't believe it.
I don't have the exact numbers in front of me. But at Columbia,
thirteen thousand of like thirty thousand students are here on foreign student visas.
You're talking about like third of the students, and six thousand something of them
were from China. Now, honestly, I think probably most of those kids
are going for stem degrees and things like that, to be fair, But
if you see one of these kids out there, you know, you know,
disrupting class, intimidating Jewish students, taking over buildings, we should we
should just take their viewss away, don't you think? Like a no brainer?
Yeah? The reason they have foreigns and worry that it's it could be
a liberal white women they're running this rather than any For instance, did you
see that woman who so these kids took over Hamilton Hall in uh Columbia,
you know where Alexander Hamilton went to school. And so it's named after him.
So they took it over and they were like, you know, they
like smash windows, intimidated, like the janitorial crew, you know, real
working people took over the building and they're you know, they're an Ivy League
school, so they're super smart people. But they forgot to bring food and
water. So this woman's out there begging says they need humanitarian aid given to
them, and it hit that if there will be a civil war, I
think we're going to win this. This is one of the things that I've
really loved seeing during these times of campus unrest in support of Hamas. And
you've seen some other students come in and do really good engagement with the speech,
like you saw at UCLA where a donor gave money for airing the atrocities
of October seventh, right next to where they were doing their encampment. That's
good. You've also seen some you know, pro Israel students just going out
there and having a really good time engaging with these people. And I think
the big problem isn't that there's an encampment, even though that's obviously illicit activity.
It's that these students have these ideas in the first place, social justice
Mania is on a complete collision course with the existence of the state of Israel
and with the United States of America. The two cannot they cannot coexist,
right, So you have to actually engage and fight and win the argument.
And I have been loving seeing how some of these brave students who are like
dealing with people who want to see them dead, just going out and having
fun, engaging with them and shouting them down. There was this guy at
Columbia. We just kept being like, most of you are ugly, you
have no friends, You are you know, sad losers, and you know
that might be mean, but it was It was charming in its own way.
There's another aspect of this with these protesters, and I saw some of
the faculty members at Columbia acting asking for amnesty. They were nervous that this
like stuff would follow the kids along, Like there are many people in American
history who are protested or you know, acted in defiance of authority for for
good purposes, not bad ones. MLKJU and you're even the founding fathers,
and they knew that they could be consequences and serious ones for what they were
doing. That's part of what this is about. But these spoiled brats think
they can do whatever they want and there should be zero consequences. They mask
themselves. They don't want they want amnesty. When they get kicked out of
school, they cry about it, like, if you're going to act this
way, be prepared consequences. That's what adult happens in the adult world.
It's also why real schools shouldn't just do like light punishment or suspensions. They
need to do permanent expulsions. Permanent expulsions deal with the problem. It doesn't
deal with the problem that UT Austin just found out about, which is that
I think a majority of the people they arrested for their campus unrest had literally
no affiliation with UT Austin whatsoever. So it doesn't take care of outside agitators.
But it does make sure, in fact that if you have inside agitators,
that they are willing to deal with pretty severe consequences for illicit activity.
Can I just think one other thing though, that really bothers me about on
the content issue again, I think it is completely okay in a constitutional sense
to have a policy disagreement about support for Israel or even about the existence of
Israel. This is obviously completely first Amendment protected activity. I find it extremely
suspicious that there is no anti war movement when it comes to the war in
Ukraine, none whatsoever. And there was an immediate anti war movement when it
came not to what Hamas did to Israel, but Israel's response to what Hamas
did to Israel. That's pretty suspicious, right. It's not like it's an
actual anti war movement. It's not like they're saying, hey, Hamas,
give up all your hostages right now, and Israel stop bombarding Gaza. Nope,
it's just Israel, stop bombarding Gaza. And by the way, Ukraine,
Russia, we don't care about you, and we don't care about looming
threats in China or any other war that's on the face of the earth.
It's just that one, and it's just that side. Isn't that interesting and
very weird? What do you think that's about. They're about as anti war
as they are pro free speech. It's funny that this campus stuff has sort
of taken the Trump courthouse, the court case Midtown, off the out of
the news. But I also think that this is the worst case imaginable against
Trump. So starting the whole law fair process with this trial has convinced a
lot of people who normally are antagonistic towards Trump that it's just a politically motivated
issue. What do you think, I don't know. I mean, first
off, the whole point of this is to secure a quick and easy conviction
before election day. It's not to have decent charges, it's not to run
a proper trial, it's not to be fair. It's just to secure I
mean put in the show and show trials. It's to secure a quick and
easy conviction. And I realized that there's like a one percent chance that doesn't
happen, but there's a ninety nine percent chance it does. So it's working
according to plan. Further, Donald Trump on Wednesday is campaigning Wisconsin and Michigan,
which is interesting because he's not able to campaign otherwise because he's being kept
in a courtroom. This is a huge, massive gift to Democrats. Like
one of the big differences between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is that Donald Trump
is capable of campaigning heavily and Joe Biden is unable to shuffle his way to
Marine Force one. But if you keep one guy in the courtroom and you
play up that it's cold in there, you know, because he's always talking
about how it's cold in there, and you just keep him trapped in a
courtroom. All of a sudden, it doesn't seem so different between Joe Biden
who gets to be president and Donald Trump, who gets to be Alexander Naval
need by Joe Biden, Like it's I think people can kind of cope their
way into thinking things are better than they are. Obviously, Americans are not
happy with Democrat hatred and law fair, That's clear. They do not view
these as legitimate. That's clear. There's a difference between like American and a
jury in New York and a jury in New York ninety percent Democrat is preparing
to convict someone on totally made up charges of non crimes. Yeah, I
was talking about normal voting Americans. I don't think they're going to care about
this conviction because I don't even think they understand what the charges are. Because
the charges, I don't understand what the charges are. They are so ridiculous.
Basically, Donald Trump is in trouble for doing something that is completely legal,
hush money and campaign agreement and not non disclosure agreements and engaging in contractual
agreements between another person voluntarily both. So I just you know, I don't
buy what you're going to disagree with this, But you know, I've seen
people say that, you know, there's so much bad news out there for
Joe Biden that having Trump like out of the picture in a sense, and
having Joe Biden out there being seen every day with all his failures as far
as the economic stuff goes, really just hurts Biden more than it hurts Trump.
I actually think that might be true. And also because this is a
completely corrupt judge, I don't know how that happened. I don't know if
they're all corrupt in New York or if it just like happened to be that
a guy whose daughter is literally a Democrat fundraiser, literally who stands to financially
benefit from everything her father is doing. He's running a trial where he's allowing
things that never should be allowed, which I guess is like a New York
tradition now and not doing it. He's like rushing through everything, and I
do think that that and then he's doing the not he's making the defendant stay
quiet, he's put a gag order on the defendant. I don't know if
that's like literally ever happened before. I know that sometimes entire cases have gag
orders on them, meaning both sides. I know sometimes like prosecution has to
stay mom to protect the defendant's rights. But the idea that a defendant cannot
defend himself publicly while going through a show trial, I mean, I don't
think Putin would do this, Like it's absolutely absurd, and I do I
agree with you. Like when people see it, they're like, wow,
they have turned the Orange Man into a completely sympathetic figure. I mean,
both of the New York trials, or both of the New York cases are
mind boggling. The one where Letitia James is going after him for repaying alone
with interest in making everybody happy. I don't even know how to explain it.
Having there's no party aggrieved, there's no one who has a problem with
what went on. I don't know. I just think it's not hurting him.
I don't know what the conviction will mean. Is it's just going to
be a fine probably right? Uh? No, I think he will go
to jail. I mean they're threatening him with jail right now for violating the
unconstitutional gag order six thousand dollars. Fine, I think it was for Yeah,
So I do want to say about this Time magazine piece. It was
by this guy who is called how Far? Oh wait, maybe you're thinking
about something else I read. I read this write up of a Time magazine
piece called how Far Trump would Go? And this left wing propagandist journalist,
senior correspondent at Times, Charlotte Alter, who looks like she's twelve, said
he wants to deport eleven million immigrants via detention camps and military. He wants
to allow Red states to monitor women's pregnancies, and he would fire US attorneys
who don't follow his prosecutorial orders. And I was like, okay, So
he would return to rule of law on American borders. He would respect the
Supreme Court ruling on Dobbs and on how the US Constitution permits states to handle
abortion law, and he would perform constitutional duties with the executive branch he oversees
like. It sounds awful, doesn't it. He is not allowed to name
his own attorney, you know, his own people in the executive branch.
Biden can do that, Biden, you know they can work in concert to
have him in courtrooms throughout the election. But here's the thing on the deportations.
Forty two percent of Democrats support deportations. A majority of American support deportations.
I don't know if it's a good idea or not. Honestly, Barack
Obama was deporting people. I mean people should be deported one cover. Yeah,
I mean, I don't know if you're going to be able to go
house to house and deport everyone. But people want to get control of the
border. I saw another poll. I think it was the ap pole that
had as the most important issue for voters the border. Like this is what
won Trump the election in twenty sixteen. I'm so sure of that, and
I think it's going to win him. You know, he has a good
chance of winning him the next election. I'm not making any predictions. I'm
just saying, but this piece is amazing. It's called if he wins,
the one that you just alluded to, where I call it Potemkin journalism is
just like scary language saying nothing like he's going to name his own people in
his administration, he's going to prosecute, he's going to go after political he's
going to go after political adversaries, which, honestly, I don't even think
he's going to do he. I was thinking about this one actually on the
going after political adversaries. I think to preserve the country, you do have
to hold people accountable for what they have done. I don't know exactly what
that means, but we have had Actually there are two completely separate thoughts I
have. One is that we always have had a DOJ that's been fairly independent.
Not always, but we've grown into this idea of having like a DOJ
that's somewhat independent from the president. That way he can kind of trust their
legal advice. And it's just been like this very hidden law aspect of the
bureaucracy that's gone fairly well for a lot of people. And Joe Biden has
of course blown not all up. You know, he has his number three
guy at DOJ literally doing this Salvin Bragg prosecution out of New York. He's
been, you know, telling through the New York Times, telling Merritt Garland
what to do in terms of prosecuting his primary political opponent. And on that
note, I just want to say, do you remember we did a whole
bleeping impeachment over the gas lighting idea that having a phone call about Biden's corruption
was election interference. Do you remember this? I remember that impeachment. Yes,
that was impeachment phone call about fairly well established Biden family corruption was election
interference. And right now the DOJ and other Democrat controlled groups are literally putting
their top political opponent on trial everywhere in the country, and the media are
acting like these are totally legitimate trials. They're treating it like it's like no
big deal. The country is being destroyed by this, and it's like maddening
that we went through. So you might like, do you remember we couldn't
say the guy's name who was part of the operation to run the impeachment,
and we did like a whole bleeping impeachment over a phone call that had been
private. But you can run big show trials on totally made up charges using
all the power of the Democrat Party and nobody's doing any impeachments. I mean,
it's like insane. Yeah, it's nuts. I mean, listen,
the DOJ let Hillary walk for real crime because in my view, Comy didn't
want to get involved in that election, and he did, by the way
by letting her off. But so I understand the impulse to do that but
that favorite and then Donald Trump said he wasn't even going to do go after
Hillary, and now the favor is not returned, And you're right, this
is like hidden law. I mean it is. I don't know if it's
good, but it is hidden law. I just want to point out,
Yeah, James Comy, I think people do would as much as they might
hate Hillary Clinton and not like her law breaking, the idea that the DOJ
an FBI should not be involved in affecting the outcome of an election makes sense.
At the same exact moment he was letting Hillary go, he was putting
together the Russia collusion scam with Hillary Clinton, so he didn't even believe it
at the moment. I mean, I'm giving a good faith rendering of that
time, which you know, maybe he wouldn't have let probably wouldn't have led
Donald Trump's slide in the same position, but he let Hillary slide. So
I don't know, it's a big problem. I don't know. I just
feel like it's Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee ran the Russia collusion hoax
through an item called legal expenses paid to Perkins Cooey, a Democrat law firm,
and nobody was held accountable for that. But we are to believe that
Donald Trum using private funds to pay a non disclosure agreement and marking it like
a particular way in twenty seventeen should send him to jail. That's how corrupt
our regime is. They can't send him to jail, can they? That
would backfire so badly. Imagine sending him to jail for signing d a non
disclosure agreement, which is I mean, don't you think that's what like in
Russia? Like you can't send Alexander Navalny to jail. We all know that
you're just doing it because he's your political opponent. And then they did,
and then he died there. I mean, listen. I try to avoid
a lot of the overwrought language that some people on our side use, you
know, as to what's going on. I don't say the word regime things
like that, but I have to tell you if he's in an orange jumpsuit.
I think I have to join you guys in all of that, because
this is a This isn't even a show trial. In a way, it's
worse because it's an invention. They've invented new laws existed for anyone just for
Donald Trump and just because he's running for president. As you said, I
think numerous times, if he just stepped down tomorrow and didn't run, he'd
probably get off on all this stuff without much problem, right, they'd probably
play him out whatever. So yeah, it's politically motivated. Yeah, we'll
see. I think if he's in, if he's in an orange jump suit,
he's going to win. The presidents what happens? Can you I don't
even know what the what are the rules? Can you be president from jail?
Oh? Yeah you can be. I think sleep wearing this conversation.
I mean, it's it's going to get crazy, and people need to be
prepared. I mean they need to be prepared for the I don't know if
this will be the conviction or if it'll be somewhere else that the regime that
you don't want to call a regime will do everything in their power to control
the outcome. Just the last word on that time piece, it's like they're
so clueless and tone death that what they're saying he's going to do, they're
doing like they I'm like I was banging the table reading it, like this
is what you're doing. You are going after your political opponents right, it's
all projection, and they're enabled by corporate media who lie about it and who
treat it like it's okay and don't do any real journalism on it, and
then congratulate themselves at the annual White House Correspondence Dinner that they pretend it's about
free speech. Okay, Well, did you hear that? If the Trump
wins, there's not going to beat this dinner anymore, and they might not
be a free I'm already voting for him. I'm already voting for him.
If then you tell me he's going to kill the White House Correspondent Center,
which he basically already did. I love. Who was the guy's name who
hosted that, Yost or something, Colin Jost. Maybe it's Yost. I
mean my mother's maiden name is Jost. My mom was telling me she kind
of like felt badly for how poorly he performed at the White House Correspondent Center,
which she apparently watched a few minutes of because they share a last name.
So I just quickly wanted to say this about it, so one of
the I did not watch it, I did even watch clips. I just
read that he had said something about you know Joe Biden's decency, Like I
always, we always hear this about how decent he is. That is one
of the biggest, biggest myths going. He is not decent in any way.
He's he lies about everything. He has no principles. I'm not saying
he's like Hitler or anything, but he is not a decent person. And
I hate that myth. And I think that a lot of that reception of
him helped him win in twenty twenty. Yeah, it was good. It
was a good campaign strategy, and it was enabled again by our lying corporate
media. He actually had to leave his first presidential run over issues of character,
you know, and that was about how he lied about his entire biography.
Decent people don't lie about their entire biography. He has lied about things
like claiming that when so his wife I think allegedly like his first wife pulled
out into traffic and sadly was killed and sorry, I'm forgetting was it's daughter
maybe, yeah, was also killed. And he claimed that the man who
hit her, you know, when she's the one who pulled out was a
drunk and that was not true. You know that decent people don't lie about
it decent people don't claim that they are a gold star family when they're not.
Two gold star families, you know, meaning people who have died in
combat. He has lied and claimed that his son died in combat. He's
lied about you know what church he grew up in, what his values have
been. He's switched on all sorts of issues in ways that were very politically
expedient. He did Declarence Thomas unforgivable things. I mean, I guess everything's
forgivable, but really horrible, reprehensible things. He is just it's just like
you don't need to say that he's decent. And also Colin Joe said sorry,
he said, my grandfather voted for decency, and that's why we're here
is for decency. So in other words, Colin Joe said, we're here
for Joe Biden, and I was like, yeah, you are. You're
here for Joe Biden. That's what the corporate media are. That's all they
do. They lie about America, They lie about Americans, they lie about
people who don't share their far left ideology. That's what the media do.
And that's why I cannot stand the awful White House correspondence dinner. And I
just have to say, like everyone in this town loves it, and so
this weekend people are all like, did you go? Did you go?
Were you there? And I can't help myself. I just respond, no,
I hate it and I hate people who go. It is so self
indulgent and sanctimonious. But if you go online in the mid nineties, there's
a White House Correspondence dinner that is that the mc is Norm MacDonald, Yes,
and it is hilarious. And the thing that really struck me about it
when I rewatched it was that he goes after Clinton really hard like, and
he goes after everyone and it's hilarious. And if that's what it was about,
and if that's what you had there, it would be great. But
it's not. It's just a campaign, uh, you know, a campaign
event, and it has been for a while. It was under Uh did
you watch nor McDonald going after Clinton? On the view? Yah called him
a murderer and Barbara Walters gets so upset and he's like, I don't see
why you're defending someone who's killed so many people. It's just it's beautiful television.
It is really worth watching. He is He was just great. I'm
just a massive fan they have like a collection of all his uh oj jokes,
you know, just one right after the next. Murders, speaking of
murderers. Yeah, so anyway, we're screwed. It's all right. So
this weekend instead of going to the White House, correspondent s Diinner, I
did get a few albums good for mentioning music. Yeah, and one of
them I'm really happy about. Well, actually, first let me tell you.
Do you know Ian McKay makay Yeah, from Minor Threat? Yeah,
is it Mackay? I think so sorry that I don't know it's okay forgot
yeah, sons. So we were at we were at Eastern Market in DC,
and there were a couple of people selling records and one of them had
just amazingly awesome records and one of them was a signed reissue of a Minor
Threat album signed by Ian at a step and I don't it's okay? Oh
is that it? I love that you asked me that. No, it
wasn't like really, you know, he is a big fan. He runs
he also ran the record label Discord Records out of our Yeah, yeah exactly.
And also, like my husband who had been in a band, a
local band, I think someone in that band produced one of his records.
But anyway, so we got that and it was kind of an interesting story
about how it came to be signed, and he basically was helping out a
friend who had come in into hard times by signing some albums that could be
sold. And then I got Music for the Masses by Depeche Mode. And
this guy who was selling the records had gone on a trip to Mexico and
purchased a bunch of albums, including this like Mexican issue of Music for the
Masses. And it's sometimes I get nervous about listening to music I liked in
my youth that it just won't hold up. That is a fantastic album,
I think, I don't like, I know a bunch of Depeche Mode songs,
but I don't really know what was on what album? So what's like
that? Do you know what the big hit on that album was? Or
I look up? Is it people Are People? Or is that like earlier?
Sorry, by the way, while you look that up, I just
want to think, thank you for allowing me to put minor thrillers our outro
music. Okay, well, I was kind of hoping you would do little
fifteen wiches on this but it's never let me down again. Behind the Week,
Little fifteen. But it all goes together really well. And I was
so happy because I've been listening to like different albums, you know, in
front of my children, and then I listened to their playlists that they put
together, and they will like select different songs from my albums. It makes
me very happy. Oh that's nice. So those were the two others.
There was one other, but I can't remember what it was. I'm sorry,
It's okay. What have you been up to? I have three things?
So I watched a show on Netflix called Three Body Problem, which is
based on a book by this Chinese science fiction author. I read the first
book of the trilogy. I think it's a trilogy. I loved it.
I don't didn't love the show as much, but I would recommend it to
people if they're interested in like smart science fiction. It's like a first contact
show. It's really well made. The writers are the writers of Games Have
Throne. But there is no incest porn in Three Body Problem. Nothing's any
sexual content actually, So you can watch it, Molly great, thank you.
You know how I will watch every rock documentary that I run across,
even if I hate the music with all my heart. So bon Jovi,
there's this long bon Jovi. Were you a fan of bon Jovi? Like,
I'm just saying, I would be interested in the documentary. So I
just like reading or seeing stories of how people make it, you know what
I mean. I just like watching that. So they're from New Jersey obviously,
and the music is just awful. So I kind of muted it and
just read it on the CC close caption. And he's a good looking guy,
that bon Jovi, I mean, did all right with the ladies.
Guess what, He married his high school sweetheart and they're still married for like
forty years. So my husband was saying that everybody in rock music who got
and stayed married has their money, and then the people who don't, they've
all just like been married multiple times and made bad decisions. And yeah,
to me, it seemed like he was one of these rock stars who,
first of all, I never understood why they were considered heavy metal. It
didn't sound heavy metal and poppish to me, but they looked kind of heavy
metal. But he was like a businessman, like clearly it was he had
goals in mind. He was, you know, making money. He knew
what he was doing. Smart guy. Seems like an interesting person actually.
And then there was another one that you might be interested in. It was
on Netflix. I believe it was a Duran Duran one. Yeah were you
a fan? Yeah you? Rio is one of my all time favorite albums.
So I actually found that interesting because they're from Birmingham and I always associated
that with like heavy working class like Black Sabbaths from there and stuff, and
Touranderana, I would say, is the opposite of Black Sabbath as far as
style and music goes. So I thought that was a pretty interesting one.
Those guys too, seem most of them seem like they have their heads on
pretty pretty straight, you know what I mean. I was telling you,
I was listening to that watching that Steve Martin documented me when I was like
rowing and I finished it, and I do highly recommend it. I would
say that's definitely one that people want to set aside three hours of their time
to watch because that's how long it is. But it ended really beautifully and
made me like him a lot more. But then I started watching Joe Rogan's
interview of Tucker. Mm hm, I'm not really a podcast watcher, but
I'm working on it, like I've made it through a portion, and definitely
it's the type of thing that's better to watch in context than to get snippets
from angry people about Like every single snippet i'd seen was totally different when watched
in context. I love how you say you're working on it, like it's
something that you need to do to better yourself, Like you don't have to
like podcasts. There's no big moral imperative for you to like three hour podcasts
by Joe Rogan. Find him. So many people watch or listen to those,
and I'm like, how do you have the time. And then Mark's
cousin was visiting and told us to like watch that or listen to it at
double speed. Yeah that Yeah, I'm doing one and a half one and
a half. Yeah, it's difficult for me to have to spend three hours
with Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson right now. A lot of what Tucker's up
to is making me mad, but we don't have to talk about that right
now. And then the last thing I did was I rewatched Glengarry Glenn Ross.
Have you ever seen that? I love it? God, it's so
good and everyone in it is just amazing. And David Mammott stuff is just
the the way that you know, the Mammot speak, the way you know,
the way it's constructed. It's just so amazing and it wants you know,
it makes me want to go watch his other movies and plays and stuff.
I just I'm such a big fan. And everyone's great in that.
Jack Lemon, you know, he was such a great actor. And yeah,
Alec Baldwin has that great scene in it always be closing, you know
all that. So that's not safe for kids, right, There's nothing,
I mean, there's it would just be like it would be like boring for
kids or not exciting. I don't know. I've been watching The Chosen with
with the kids, so I think that might be a violent switch. It's
going to be a change your pace, let's put it that way. There's
some cursing in it, for sure, but it's not I don't know,
there's nothing really terrible. I don't I should say that, David. I
just want to give an update, but I am. I'm all the way
into the Book of Acts, which is well, everything's been great, but
like reading the Book of Acts, start to finish is also super interesting.
You're never like that that book suck like Leviticus. Leviticus has the wrong reputation.
That's a super interesting one. But I will say that like all of
the books that I was less familiar with, I've enjoyed so much more.
I was so excited to read John, the Gospel of John, which is
my favorite and I like to read all the time anyway, but when I
read it this time, I was it didn't like unlock new things, probably
because I was pretty familiar with it. Anyway, that's good to know.
You get a lot done. You're doing your job, very lot going on,
watching the movies, also reading the Bible. How like, how much
time do you spend a day reading the Bible? The Bible part is interesting
because sometimes it's not at all. In some days it's quite a bit.
And yesterday I was in an urgent care with a kid who broke a body
part, and so we just I just read it out loud to that child
while we were waiting, because you know how you like have to wait,
sit around and wait. Yeah, she knows a lot about the Bible,
that one. But anyway, do you have it on your phone? Yeah?
I read it partially in print. I have a Lutheran Study Bible that
I love because it has like the contextual notes and it tells you, like
where this was previously addressed in scripture and all that kind of stuff, has
maps and historical guides, and then I read it on my phone also.
All right, I just think people would want to know. I want to
know, So thank you for that. Now, Okay, we'll see everyone
next week. Until then, we lovers of freedom and anxious for the thread