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of the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network, Iron Price Atkinson joined by
my man Steve Carney. And was it one of the upsets of the year
in college football? Maybe nationally it won't get that billing, but boy,
as far as we're concerned, it certainly is up there. But we're going
to get into the second leg of the Commander in Chief Trophy that saw Army
pull off an absolute shocker last week in Denver. We've got Gary Stoken,
the president's CEO of the Chick fil A Bowl Peach Bowl in Atlanta. Yes,
we had this one scheduled before this events that transpired last weekend in Denver
between Army and Air Force. But we're still going to talk with Gary Stoken
coming up here a little bit later. We've got the Travis Manning Foundation on
a roll segment. We got three games to preview this coming weekend, but
before that, we are going to look back on those two games last weekend,
including as I mentioned, that shocking, absolutely stunning result that transpired at
empower Field at Mile High Stadium there in Denver, is As it was the
second leg of the Commander in Chief Trophy. Steve, Army and Air Force
doing battle. Air Force needing but a win to seal the Commander in Chief
Trophy. But oh how quickly things can change. Army shocking the college football
world before a stun crowd Steve of largely Falcon fans to win the Commander or
to win that leg of the Commander in Chief Trophy, forcing six count them
up six air Force turn overs in route to the win twenty three to three.
As Army gets to three and six overall, air Force is undefeated season,
it does come to an end as they lose and fall to eight and
one overall. Steve unbelievably shocking turn of events, but wow, at the
same time, what a performance. Where did that come from? By Jeff
Munkins Black Knights. I don't know Price, but I'll tell you this if
you watched the Falcons fans in that first period. They were wondering what in
the hell did we just get hit with? Because they ended up with so
many turnovers in that first quarter. I mean, it was seventeen nothing before
you could even sit down. It was unreal about how that how that game
started. It was just turnover, turnover, turnover, leading to touchdown,
touchdown, field goal, and it was like, oh my god, what
what just happened? Like, I mean, I remember looking at my phone
before the game and you and I had our good friend Mike love All,
former co host of the show, text us saying he was at the game
and he was not looking forward to what was going to happen. And I
remember texting him, well, Pryce and I both picked Army to cover,
so at least you got that going for you. And then all of a
sudden, I get started with my job working for the University of South Florida,
and I get another text going, I can't believe this from you,
and I look down to see the score, and at seventy to nothing in
the first quarter, I was like, what the I mean, it was
just unreal. How how motivated Jeff Monkin had his players coming out of the
tunnel for that game. We talked about it last week. If they if
Army wanted a chance to win this game, they had to win the turnover
battle. They could not be minus. They had been minus pretty much all
season long when it came to these games, and you know, even last
the prior week against UMass they were minus three in the turnover ratio and I
was like, they can't do that and win. And all of a sudden,
here they come out, they're plus six. And as I was joking
to you before we got started taping today, you know, it doesn't matter
who you are. It doesn't matter if you're air Force, it doesn't matter
if you're Georgia, it doesn't matter if you're a team in the NFL.
If you're minus six in the turnover ratio against Army, you're gonna lose the
game. Well that's exactly what they did, and they lost the game in
a stunning, stunning fashion, to put it simply, And it was by
far Army's best game of the year and air Force is worst. And when
you put those two things together, that equals what happened and Army ending the
five game losing streak. You know, He's still kind of been a loss
for words here as air Force was number seventeen, but you know you mentioned
it. Six turnovers, four fumbles, two interceptions, Zach Larrier was a
guy that had really done a great job taking care of the football. Jump
Bunkin knows he is one of the master motivators. He knows how to motivate
a team. However, you know, I thought that. You know,
air Force has been certainly a second half team all season. They have their
second halfs have been much better than first half. But yeah, you know,
as you said it, Army jumped on him right away as Bryce and
Daily took a keeper sixty two yards to the house less than two minutes into
the game. Before you could blink, we had points. And that's not
something you can say a lot of times in the Service Academy matchup, as
teams feel each other out because they know each other so well. But Daily
takes it to the house. He was the best player, at least offensively
on the field, carrying a third a career thirty six times for one hundred
and seventy yards and two touchdowns. After Air Force on their next possession,
they get it for the first time on fourth and one, stuffed their own
thirty four by Army. Black Knights then take the ten to zer lead on
that forty five yard field goal by Quinn Moretzky, and then just four more
plays later, Larrier puts the ball on the ground that Leo Lowan scoops up,
recovers, and the Black Knights punching in forty three yards. Eleven plays
later and it's seventeen to nothing with one fifty three left in the first quarter
thanks to that five yard Bryson Daily touchdown run, his second in the quarter,
as he had two in the game. This game was twenty three to
three at halftime. We didn't see a single bit of scoring after that.
But my goodness, you know, air Force being that second half team couldn't
get anything going offensively, the Black Knights holding the Falcons to just one hundred
and fifty five yards rushing one hundred and forty five lower than their season average.
The first time. Speaking of touchdowns and being you know, shut out,
that's the first time air Force has not found the end zone. How
about this, Steve since they played the Black Knights and were shut out in
twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, six years to the day, six years to
the day was the last time that the Falcons had not found the a zone
in a college football game, when they were shut out as the Black Knights.
Unbelievably, And now what a turn of events is. We've got air
Force, which could have won the trophy outright. Now the Commander in Chief
trophy is simply out of air Force's hands. Now it's Army that can win
the trophy outright with a win over Navy in the season finale. You know,
air Force is going to be the biggest Navy fans. You know,
probably the only time they are all year in that game is they would retain
the trophy as it would be a one to one round robin split, and
by virtue of being the winner of the trophy last year, they would therefore
retain it this year with a Navy win. Yeah, it's amazing that if
I had said to you before the game that Air Force was not going to
punt, not a single time in the first half, You're probably thinking they're
a big at this point. It's amazing to see that they did not.
They did not have to punt a single time. But they lost. They
they lost the football on the first four times that they had the football.
They finally get a field goal in the second quarter, and then they get
and then they get turned over. They turned the ball over again on their
final uh in their final series of the first half. Their first half win,
turnover on downs, fumble, fumble, turnover on downs, field goal
interception. I mean, that's that's unreal. How how how bad of a
first half. I mean, I'm sure that Zach Larrier probably went into the
went into the locker room at halftime and went, am I sleeping? This
is this is a nightmare. Right, I'm gonna wake up from this and
we're gonna go out on the field and play the first half. Right,
this is unbelievable. And and the fact that you know, they had such
an unbelievably bad first half and then Army was able to hold on, I
mean, you look at it. Uh the second they were able to get
air force to punt on the first on the first series. They got a
little help because the field goal was missed on the second series. When you
know, at that point, I was thinking, okay, you get points
there, and especially if you get a touchdown you're within two scores, You're
gonna have probably four or five more times with the football, you've got an
opportunity to get back into this game. Once they missed that field, I
was like, all right, this thing is done. I was I was
completely of the mindset like, you know, this is Army's day, uh
and uh I was happy for for our friend Mike Loveall, and I was
happy for the Black Knights because, uh, this is this is completely a
moment that you can build on. And yes, Army's not gonna go to
a bowl game this year that they can only play spoiler the rest of the
way out. But now they've got they've got something to build on and something
that these players are gonna be able to hang their hats on, or their
covers in this case, they're gonna be able to hang their covers up and
go, this is this is what we can do as a team, and
this is how good we are. We took an unbeaten team that thought they
were going to be in a New Year six Bowl game for sure, and
we said not so fast. Yeah, you know, I think, Well,
the reason why I'm just so surprised not because the Air Force was one
of eight undefeateds going into Saturday's game and being an eighteen and a half point
favorite, you know, because you and I both thought Army would cover.
We said that at the beginning. But I think because typically in the Service
Academy matchups, we have this narrative and thinking we know how it's somewhat going
to go, because the teams are very familiar with each other and similar styles
to play that kind of stuff, and you know, close games down to
the end, And I think that's that probably is why I'm just still so
surprised and shocked with the result, you know, especially considering how good air
Force had been, not just on one side of the ball, but you
know, across the board, special teams defensively often everything. But you know,
then again, you know it's Army that sings second. You know,
like you said, I'm happy for a friend Mike love All and the Black
Knights because when you get unexpected results and in those things that can't kind of
transpire the way this game did. I think it, you know, kind
of at least for me. It didn't garner more of my attention, but
has more heads being turned, just because you know, everybody was starting to
realize nationally just what how good this Air Force team was. Then all of
a sudden it comes to a screeching halt. That's what these Service Academy matchups
are made about, Steve. But you know the Black Knights again, a
twenty three to three winner over number seventeen Air Force. Now they can win
the Commander in Chief Trophy with a win over Navy in that season finale.
All right, let's get to the midshipman, Steve, real quick before we
give out some game balls. Navy taking on Temple up at Lincoln Financial Field
and simply put, Navy simply outplayed by a team the mids were expected and
honestly we both thought should have beaten, you know, as they fall to
Temple a thirty two to eighteen, Temple improving the three and six overall three
and two in the American while Navy now they are three and five, two
and three in the American. In a game of musical chairs, that continued
for Navy, trying to find something or somebody to jump start that struggling offense.
This time they turned to Xavier r. Line, the athletic senior,
getting the surprise start. But you know they he was pretty much all the
offense that Navy had in this when thirty carries ninety seven yards. Then he
had to start throwing the ball three for one twenty four in a touchdown.
But that was after you know. EJ. Warner looked like his dad,
the Temple sophomore quarterback, the son of Kurt Warner, after missing two games
in concussion protocol. Boy, he was throwing darts out there, Steve,
he couldn't miss. Had guys wide open twenty seven or thirty three, passing
four hundred and two d four touchdowns. Simply put at, I mean,
a very disappointing result where Navy was outplayed across the board as Temple gets at
thirty two to eighteen win over the mids. Yeah, I mean, you're
you said it right. EJ. Warner looked like his old man out there
with four hundred and two yards through the air, and you know, the
the midshipman had troubles, uh you know, putting the ball in the end
zone. And it doesn't help that, uh you know, they were even
on the on the turnover ratio. I think that's again something that I'm I'm
always going to harp on on these shows is looking at what happened turnover wise,
if you're able to keep the football from being on the turf, you're
gonna have a much better opportunity out. Temple also lost two fumbles on the
day, so you know, things kind of worked out in the wash.
But the fact is that you know, Navy needed to run the ball a
lot better than they did. They finished with just one hundred and forty four
yards rushing on forty eight carries, so you're looking at under three yards under
three yards of carry, and that's never going to work when you are a
team that has to rely on the running game as much as Navy does,
and when you're not, when you're playing from behind the sticks and you're forced
to throw the football, and even it doesn't matter who it is, it
doesn't matter if it's ty Lavitai, it doesn't matter if it's Xavier art Line,
it does not matter. You've got to be able to run the football
better than what Navy did to have any shot of winning. And that's why
they ended up two scores down in this game. Now, I thought that
the defense tried to tried to show itself pretty well. I thought Colin Ramos
had a good day. Obviously, you had two interceptions of EJ. Warner
as well, so you had those those two takeaways, So you were doing
everything right on defense, and I thought defensively, the midshipman played fine.
But if you're if you're constantly stuck in third and eight or third and seven
in a in an offense that requires you to run the football and you're only
getting two yards or three yards of carry, and you're finding yourself in these
long third down situations, you're gonna find yourself in big trouble a lot.
And that's what happened. Yeah, and maybe it was three of fifteen on
third down. You mentioned the third longs. I mean three of fifteen is
not going to get it done. You know, you throw in the fourth
down conversions. You know they were six of nineteen on third and fourth down,
while Temple you take them, which this largely negated. The four turnovers
was two things. The fact that Temple was seven to ten. Just do
the math. That's seventy percent verting on third and fourth down. Even I
could do that penalty in the game. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So
you know those things combined, you know, maybe wins the time possession,
but largely it's more on style of play and Temples scoring quickly. In this
one is again E. J. Warner looked like a first round draft pick
with guys that were wide open all over the field. I mean, for
again, four o two passing with four touchdowns. Obviously he's got to clean
up the two picks, but maybe you got to get this thing corrected very
quickly, as you know, I know, Brian Newberry was, you know
what he talked about after the game, incredibly disappointed in his team, especially
coming off that bye week against Air Force and now you know, losing you
know, to a team that honestly you should have beaten, which was really
kind of a back breaking loss considering if you're trying to get Bawl eligible now,
which technically maybe still has a shot at Yeah, and it blows my
mind that that Temple did not commit a penalty the entire game. That's that's
just an incredible number to see and to see the difference. Navy was seven
penalties for eighty one yards and to see Temple have zero dash zero just mind
blowing. You can't make those mistakes and they ended up having to pay for
it. Yeah. Again, Navy falls thirty two to eighteen at Temple mids
now three and five overall, two and three in the American. All right,
time to give out some game ball, Steven. I know you love
defense. I do too this week, but which way you want to go
with your game ball? Fire first, my man? Yeah, I obviously.
I think we're both going to end up on the same squad here the
same eleven. I have my game ball going to the senior linebacker from Austin,
Texas, Leo Loewen, who had twelve tackles, nine of them were
solo. He also recovered one of the four fumbles that were put on the
ground by the Air Force Falcons. So a huge day in a huge win
for a senior who is going to end up going out and serving his country
at the end of this year. And he can definitely smile when he thinks
about how he and his teammates went into Denver and smacked the Falcons around a
little bit. Mm hmm. All right, I'm gonna keep it on that
side of the ball, because, boy, when you turn in that kind
of performance that the Army defense did, forcing six turnovers, you get the
salute from us, the proverbial salute, right, Steve, and you go
with Leo Loan, I'm gonna go with the Navy or excuse me. Army
senior defensive back Bo Nicholas Paul, who had two picks picked off Zach Larrier
twice in the game. He had five tackles, including a fumble recovery,
so had his hand in three of the six takeaways as he probably turned in
his best performance as a Black Nun. That did. The senior from Irvington,
New Jersey named College Football Networks named to their Team of the Week for
his efforts. First Army player to pick off two passes in a single game
since Elijah Riley, the current Pittsburgh Steelers safety, did so in twenty sixteen
against North Texas in the Heart of Dallas Bowl and now has three interceptions this
season. The last Army player to pick off three passes in a season with
Josh Jenkins with four back in twenty fourteen. So, Nate, Army defensive
back Bo Nicholas Paul two picks and five tackles of fumble recovery, he gets
my game Ball for an outstanding performance there as the Army defense leading the way
in the win over the number seventeen Air Force Falcons. All right, we
got a whole lot more to do here, Steve. We got our Travis
Manning Foundation on a roll. We got three games to look ahead to,
but we got a guest coming up next, Gary Stoke and the CEO and
president of the Chick fil A Beats Bowl Air Force. Yes, they are
still in the hunt for a Group of the Group of five spot in the
new year six. They are not out of it. Yes, it hurts
losing that game to Army, but they are not out of it yet,
as they still could win the Mountain West Conference championship if they went out,
certainly would be along with the American, you know, the the top two
group of five conferences. I don't think anybody would argue that between the American
and the Mountain West. Steve two Lane I think right now has probably got
that inside track. But we'll talk a little bit more about that with Gary
Stoke and the CEO and president of the Chick fil A Bowl coming up next
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latest with Navy, Army and Air Force on Yards and Stripes Service Academy Football.
All right, welcome back in here on Yards and Stripes. You're home
for Service Academy Football. Bryce Atkinson joined by my man Steve Carney. But
joining us now, as we told you a little bit earlier, Gary Stoke
and the CEO and president of the Chick fil A Bowl coming up on Saturday,
December the thirtieth, at twelve noon in Atlanta, Georgia. And Gary,
I think we're you know, not a day late, but a week
late. We should have had you on last week, but you know,
working ahead this week. And you know Air Force does drop that twenty three
to three decision to Army. But still nonetheless we're never going to pass up
the chance to talk with Gary Stoken from the Chick bowl A Bowl. How
are your friends. It's been probably a few acc media days since i've you
and I've sat down. I really appreciate you guys having us. It's great
to talk to you. You know, we we operate and manage the Dodd
Trophy and and uh we had coach Hatfield uh the Wyoming game celebrate his anniversary
of his winning the Dodd Coach of the Year at air Force. So that
was a great, great experience for coach Hatfield for our team up there.
So uh yeah, we we were surprised. Todd Mankins or Coach moncin is
a good friend, so I was happy for him, But tough for coach
Calhoun, uh, losing that tough one at home when they had the opportunity
to you know, finish out and be in the the group of five top
right champion. You never know, as long as there's games on the schedule,
you never know. That's exactly right, And let's just touch it talk
about it real quick, because you know, obviously air Force is not out
of it. They're sitting at eight and one in a position still to likely
play for the Mount West Conference championship game. And you win the Mount West
Conference championship, I mean that's certainly no slouch now, you know. And
you've got Tulane that's you know, only got one loss, and you know,
if you're looking at losses, theirs is not a bad one. Losing
Old Miss and then you got Liberty that's undefeated. So you know there's you
just mentioned it. There's a ton of football left to play, but air
Force still in it. You know, what are the kind of chances you
know, you know, considering the lost Army that you know, you know,
getting out of this thing with just one loss in the regular season,
and if they're a Mount West Conference champion, you know, the chance that
they could get to Atlanta, the Capitol College Football for this Chick fil A
Peach Bowl. Well, it's really interesting how you become the biggest fan of
Army now if you're an air Force person, uh, and the biggest fan
for Old miss uh to to lose some games because you know, with Tulane
sitting there. So it's really interesting how things work out after you play teams.
And you know, when you look at the selection committee, I've been
lucky enough to uh, fortunate enough to be in gay Lord and sit there
in the room and go through a mock selection process with all the computers there,
and it's amazing how much information and data and analytics they have in front
of them really helps the process. You know, they have a great process.
They get it right, and you know, the way the process will
work this year is the CFP Selection Committee will put number one geographically advantaged in
either Sugar or Rose Bowl because those two bowls host the semis this year,
and then they'll put number two in the other bowl, number three to play
number two and number four to play number one, and then the Orange Bowl
committee will make the next selections. And that's because they have contracts with the
ACC to take the highest ranked ACC team that's not in the playoffs, So
Florida State were to go up and right now if the season ended today,
you know you're looking at Louisville, and then the Orange Bowl will select from
the highest ranked team between the Big ten, the SEC and Notre Dame,
and they'll match them up against the highest RNGKED ACC team. Then the selection
it comes back to the selection committee and they will place the group of five
highest ranked champion in either the Fiesta, the Cotton, or the Peach,
and then they'll put the other five teams in the Cotton, the Fiesta,
and the Peach. Where US three are at large cf pe bules this year,
so that's why the selection process will run. Garry, how how much
do you relish having the opportunity to have the highest ranked game, the non
the group of five team in your bowl game because you a couple of years
ago, and I say a couple of years ago. Now it's now been
seven years since UCF played Auburn in your game, and everybody talks about how
we exciting the game that was, especially for the guys in Orlando who then
went and put up twenty seven twenty sixteen national champions on their on their band
on their stadium. But but is it how exciting is that to to go
to give a team like a UCF, or like a Tulane or a Liberty
or an air Force this year that opportunity. Yeah, we didn't know it,
but in twenty seventeen we hosted two national championship games. We hosted Auburn
Florida State and Pick Play Peach Bowl, and then Georgia and Alabama in the
CFP National Championship Game. You know, it's it's Cinderella's chance to dance,
right, It's the opportunity to play against the big boy in a in a
New Year six bowl game, huge exposure. We've always found that the Group
of five champion, we've had them three times now, they they will sell
their allotment out and be excited and ready to because it does it gives them
a chance to really prove that, you know, they can compete on the
highest level. And we've seen it when in our games. Let's see TCU
beat Old Miss, you CF beat Auburn, and Houston beat Florida State.
So we've had the Group of Five three times and they've won each each of
the ball games. Uh. And that just shows, you know, when
you have teams that want to be there. So much of the Bull season
obviously is about teams that really are excited to be there. And I know,
you know, how can he not be excited to be in Atlanta.
I mean, I'm a stone's throw over in Greenville, South Carolina, so
I get over to Atlanta. I'm lucky to live you know, pretty close
by to to you Gary. But you know, what would it mean,
you know, just hypothetically, if if say Air Force, can you know,
make their way you know, to the New Year six and be that
G five representative? You know, you know what would it mean you know,
in signal maybe even to the other two academies in a time where you
know the landscape of the sport is changing beneath us and maybe not necessarily ways
or advantageous. If you're a service academy, you know what would that mean?
You know, if Air Force could be the Group of five representative,
you know in the New Year six, whether it's in the Chick fil A
Bowl or wherever that may be, well, you know, you always root
for the their air Force or Navy or army. The academies are very very
special, and I think anytime you can host them, it's, uh,
it's a great honor. So yeah, if the selection committee we're able to
uh uh or air Force were able to get in the UH as a Group
of five champion, we'd be honored to have them, for sure. Garry,
I'm curious to get your perspective on the future of college football with the
change that's coming with the CFP expanding to twelve teams. How do you how
do you see that affecting your game in the matchups that you can have in
your game. Yeah, in the next two years, obviously the CFP will
start the twelve team playoff, will host a quarterfinal game, which means we'll
host either number one, two, three, or four against the winner of
a first round game in the Chick fil A Peach Bowl, and then in
twenty five we'll host the National CFP Semi Final like we did last year with
Georgia and Ohio State, So you know, two great years. Plus we've
got Georgia Clemson to kick off the game in the AFFLEC Kickoff Game next year
to start the season, and then we have South Carolina Virginia Tech in the
Beamer Bowl in twenty five, along with Tennessee and Syracuse. So we've got
some great games coming up over the next couple of years. And then in
twenty six, you know, we think that the new year six bowl games
will maintain the opportunity to host the quarters and semis and then they rotate the
national Championship as they're doing in twenty four and twenty five, but that has
to be negotiated. CFP has to get their TV deal done first and then
they'll negotiate with some bowl games. So, you know, I think the
playoff you ask what my perspective is, I think, you know, will
help college football in a lot of ways. Number One, there'll be probably
thirty forty, you know, upwards of maybe even fifty teams that will still
be eligible to be in the twelve team playoff going into October November, whereas
now, you know, no team with two team loss two losses has ever
gotten into the CFP playoffs, so you know, it gets cut down pretty
quickly. What does that mean? That means more attendance, more interest for
college football into November. Number one and number two we're seeing this year that's
college football celebrating its highest viewership on TV, and I think that's primarily due
to NBC, Now, CBS, ESPN, Fox, you know, all
broadcasting college football, and so they're promoting college football on every network and so
that really helps. And I think that I think the CFP will move to
at least two, if not more networks or TV broadcasters coming into the playoffs
as they move forward in twenty twenty six. So that's gonna help, you
know. I'm fortunately, you know, I hate to see what happened to
the PAC twelve because that viewership, that attendance increase will all help. We
appreciate you taking the time. I've always said that you're you know, you've
got the best job in college football because not just because you're the guy,
or maybe not the guy, but one of you know, you and your
guys bringing in the cooler of Chick fil A sandwiches at media days and you
know, being the most popular guy. But I think the best job because
you've got is sitting in Atlanta, the capitol college football. There's no other
place I'd rather go for big games and the matchups you guys put together,
whether it's you know in pre you know, the kickoffs to start the season,
you know obviously the postseason, and not to mention your golf tournaments you
put together in the summer where I know that Jeff Munkin and I know Paul
Johnson, former Navy you know head coach, has played in many many times
over the years. You guys have got a great thing going, Gary,
and we obviously can't thank you enough of your time today. That's a nice
confliment come from you, guys. I appreciate what you do for college football
and anytime you get over to Atlanta come see us. We look forward to
hosting you. Gary. We really want Gar don't threaten us with a good
time, Yeah, no doubt don't. You might see me over there being
a Stones throw away. So but Gary, really thanks. I'll make the
drive up from Tampa. Yeah he will. He definitely will, but we
always appreciate you. Gary. Thank thank you so much for doing this and
giving us a few minutes. So uh, just good luck the rest of
the ways. Uh you know, hope to hope to see again real soon.
Well, yeah, thank you very much and have a great Christmas and
a great Thanksgiving all right. Once again, thanks to Chick fil A,
Peach Bowl CEO and President Gary Stoken for joining us there and always great to
catch up with with Gary. It's been a while, but like you said,
Steve, probably am maybe a week late on that one. But that's
okay because you know, we do. We do our work, try and
bring everything we can for our listeners. And we're still going to bring Gary
to you because as we talked about, and he'd mentioned, you know,
air Force not out of it yet. But you know, too Lane,
maybe even Liberty could have the inside track. I know that tou Lane right
now. In most every Bowl projection you look at, Steve Tulane is the
one that's getting that group of five slot for the new year six. But
Liberty right there is undefeated. Yes, I think strength the record, just
you know, strength the schedule. All that is certainly in Temple or in
TWU Lane's favor even with one loss, their one loss being a close one
to Ole Miss that I think still outweighing Liberty. But Liberty, nonetheless,
there is undefeated. You know, two Lane still got a few land minds
to navigate, including what you know, an American Athletic Conference championship game,
and certainly air Force is not out of it yet either. You know,
if air Force can win out get to the Mount West Conference championship game,
you know they still have Boise State left in the regular season. You know,
then get into the Mount West Conference championship game, you know you're going
to play a solid opponent. Could it be Fresno State, We'll see.
But you know, nonetheless, there is still a lot more football in the
month of November. Is I call it championship month because that's when championships are
you're set up for and that's when you kind of make that run to your
conference championship game. September and October set up months. This is the time
where you make the move. And you know, if that's any indication,
it's not looking good for air Force, but there's still a lot more on
the table left. Yeah, you're absolutely right, there's there's plenty to still
play for if you're a Falcons, if you're a Falcons fan, you still
have an opportunity. Yes, you're not in the inside track anymore as the
Green Wave have overtaken you on the inside, but if you get the help
that you need, and you know, the American is a much tougher conference
than people let on, I certainly think that you've got an opportunity, uh
to see air Force in the Chick fil A Peacha Bull and a one lost
air Force team in that in that matchup is still a very good uh opportunity.
Uh. And and I'm sure Gary uh privately, Will would say this
that you know, they would love to see air Force in that because that
means you get the whole uh, the whole school coming down. You get
a huge number of tickets sold because everybody that has any connection to the Air
Force is going to want to be at that game. M yeah, right
now, just for those scoring at home. Some Bowl projections, I typically
don't even begin looking at Boll projections until the month of November, just because
it's almost like looking at you know, March's Madness projections. You know,
in November, in the middle of the summer just because they're you know,
you just got to get down the road before you can really start projecting.
But twenty four Sports twenty four to seven Sports has air Force right now projected
to play in the Finway Bowl against Georgia Tech. That would be on December
the twenty eighth. USA today has air Force slated to play Memphis in the
Hawaii Bowl that would be on December twenty third, and then ESPN dot Com
has air Force slated for a matchup in the LA Bowl with UCLA that would
be December sixteenth. And Brett McMurphy, who I think personally from the Action
Network, I think Brett's one of the best when it comes to projecting bowls.
He also has air Force slated to play the Bruins in the LA Bowl
on December sixteenth. So that's kind of a quick snapshot on some of the
bowl projections right now. Fifty one teams are currently Bowl eligible to fill the
games. That means thirty one more teams are needed to get their six win
in the last week of the season. That can still happen, although I
think that it's kind of taking some shape right now where there could be some
five win teams that get in. You know Navy, yes, we talked
about them a little bit earlier. But you know, the challenge for Navy
is, you've got to get Bowl eligible in eleven games at this point because
you have to basically went out with what you have left before the Army Navy
game, because the bowl bids coming out before Army Navy. You know,
you got to get your work done before that game essentially. And so they
could possibly get in if they have a good enough APR, but not likely
this season obviously. We know that Army is out of it too. Yeah,
with their their situation with wins, and you know, a couple wins
over one double a FCS team, So gonna be an uphill climb there,
certainly for Navy to get Bowl eligible with the Air Force. Stevestely absolutely.
I mean, you look at Navy's remaining scheduled before the Army Navy game.
They've got UAB coming up this week, we'll talk about that here, and
then they have ECU and then SMU, who is obviously I would say probably
the cream of the crop as they are the team that is actually leaving the
American to go to the Big Twelve next year. So they've they've got they've
got a definitely their work cut out for them. If Brian Newberry wants to
be in a bowl in his first year, that's that's a very tough ask.
Uh, It's possible, but still a very tough ask. All right,
we'll step away again. We got a couple of games, three games
in fact, to look ahead to. We've got our Travis Manian Foundation on
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Army and Air Force on Yards and Stripes Service Academy Football. All right,
we got three games coming up this weekend. Let's start, Steve up at
Mikey's Stadium where the victorious Army Black Knights. They are going to go into
this one on a high, to say the least. They're going to welcome
the whole Crossed Crusaders to Mikey Stadium. Army three and six taking on number
twenty three holy Cross out of the FCS. The Crusaders are six and three.
This one a twelve noon kickoff on the CBS Sports Network. I haven't
seen a line on this one yet, Steve. Obviously it's an FCS matchup.
Typically those are a little bit harder to find. But Army leads this
series seventeen to six and won every game in this series has been played at
West Point. But holy Cross they did win the last meeting thirty to twenty
one, but that one was over twenty years ago, back on September the
seventh in two thousand and two. Nonetheless, it might have been twenty one
years but this is another dangerous opponent for the Black Knights, playing a top
twenty five team out of the FCS. Currently ranked what number twenty three in
the latest FCS Coaches Poll, and the Crusaders have won two out of their
two straight and three out of their last four losses. Steve, I mean,
if you want to start, you know, scoring losses. I mean
they only lost by a field goal to Boston College, lost by field goal
to Lafayette out of the Patriot League, and then by ten to number nineteen
Harvard. So a very very solid opponent that's going to be coming into Mikey
Stadium. Don't be surprised if they're hanging around late in this one too.
Yeah, and they like to run the football as well. They are much
more balanced attack than than Army is are the Crusaders. And they've got a
really good junior full running back named Jordan Fuller who is averaging almost seven yards
per carry. That's a guy that they're gonna have to worry about stopping.
And if they can stop him, well, then you've got their senior quarterback
Matthew Sluku can also throw the football around. He's got seventeen touchdowns this year
and just four interceptions, so he certainly knows how to take care of the
football. And I think that the Crusaders are going to give the Black Knights
a little more than most people expect, but I don't think it's going to
be more than Army can handle. I think that they're going to end up
winning this one pretty handily. But really I think that Holy Cross is the
right kind of opponent for them. After that Air Force game, gets their
mindset off of the flexbone, the triple option and back onto more traditional style
of football offenses. And that's what Armies got the rest of the way up
until the Navy game. So get holy Cross in here, get back and
prepared to take on a traditional offense and do well on it, and find
yourself with an opportunity for another victory at home. M H. You mentioned
Fuller went for two twenty eight last week as they rallied to beat Lehigh.
He's run for over a thousand yards already this season, Steve averaging just under
seven yards of carry. You mentioned the eighteen touchdowns, But Sluka, the
senior quarterback, you know, while he's capable of doing it through the year,
he's also less than one hundred yard shy of going over one thousand on
the ground this year as well. He's run for nine eleven and seven touchdowns
on the ground. So a guy that can you know, can make the
plays with his arms or with his arm and with his legs, kind of
resembling a little bit maybe of Garrett Schrader from Syracuse, a guy that was
really a true dual threat. But Army gonna had their hands full against number
twenty three Holy Cross. The Crusaders against six and three coming to this one
out of the FCS, taken on Army three and six, looking to build
off that win last week against air Force. Next game up on Saturday,
the University of Alabama Birmingham coming to Annapolis UAB three and six, two and
three in the American to take on Navy now three and five two and three
in the American a three thirty kickoff there on the CBS Sports Network UAB installed
last I've seen Steve a three point favorite in this one over under fifty four
in half. But as we mentioned just a little bit ago, Navy they
can get Bowl eligible with wins over ua B and ECU coming too Annapolis and
then gonna have to go to Dallas and knock off SMU. That's all before
the Army game. But still, and surprisingly, you know, Bowl bid
is on the table, and the Mids do have an opportunity to garner or
share the Commander in Chief trophy if you can get a win over Army thanks
to that Black Knight's upset over Air Force last Saturday. But the problem for
the Mids is, you know, with that Temple aerial attack and E.
J. Warner throwing for four h two, that's got to get cleaned up
quickly. Because UAB mentioned three and six led by Trent Dilfer. Everybody that
anybody around college football, especially around the NFL and your area, Steve remembers
Trent Dilfer. They have a quarterback in Jacob Zeno who's thrown for almost twenty
four hundred yards seven touch seventeen touchdowns in just seven picks and nine games.
The Baylor transfer has been one of the country's best this year. If you
thought EJ. Warner could light you up, they've got another guy that could
come in and light things up. Agin this weekend by the Blazers, Oh
absolutely, I mean, and Jacob Zeno you mentioned him for the fighting for
the fighting Trent delphers as I have started calling you Ab. How about last
week against Florida Atlantic four hundred and eighty four yards and five touchdowns in a
forty five forty two win over the FAU Owls. And you're absolutely right if
you thought that EJ. Warner gave Naves defensive backs fits. Jacob Zeno is
going to have them tied up in knots like pretzels. This is not the
guy that you want to have a bad game against if you're a Navy defensive
back, because he will scorch you left, right, and center. He
knows how to throw the football, and he's got a ton of amazing receivers.
I get a chance to see earlier this year as UAB played USF at
in Birmingham and came out with a fifty six to thirty five win. At
that time, that was the second most points ever put on a USF squad.
Ever, that has now since been eclipsed by Memphis, who did it
last week. They put up fifty nine on the Bulls. But we're not
going to talk about that game because that was very depressing. But yeah,
they really know how to throw the football. And Trent Dilfer is not one
of these guys that is going to take it easy on Navy. He's going
to if they get down. If they get up on Navy, they're going
to step on the midshipman's throats. Yeah, and UAB is a team that
can score quickly. You mentioned the Baylor transfer Jacob Zeno. He's completing seventy
five percent of his throws, fourth best in the country. But they can
strike quickly. Seven touchdown drives this year under one minute for third most in
the country. Navy, meanwhile, scored six has six touchdown drives under a
minute, which is six most in the country. But the UA defense is
something that they're also very good at is takeaways. Nine fumble recoveries this year,
fifth best in the country. They've come up with sixteen turnovers total on
the season, twenty fourth best in the country. So not just doing it
on one side of the ball. They can take it away. And you
know, if you're talking fumble recoveries, a team that struggled to get any
kind of semblance going of an offense that has been the midshipman, they are
going to have to find something quickly. Who is going to be a starting
under quarterback At this point, we have no idea, but Navy's got to
try and find something that hasn't been there yet this season. UAB and Navy
a three thirty kickoff on the CBS Sports Network again UABA field goal favorite on
the road, fifty four and a half, the over under final game of
the weekend. It's a late one, folks, especially if you're on the
East Coast. But air Force eight and one, five and zero in the
Mountain West, getting back to conference play, They're traveling out to Hawaii to
take on the three and seven Rainbows one in four out in the Mountain West
again, an eleven pm kickoff Eastern Standard time now nine pm there locally in
Colorado Springs. This one is going to be shown on local television Spectrum there
in the Colorado Springs area. But air Force is a eighteen and a half
point favorite. The last I've seen Steve over under forty eight and a half
in a series that air Force does lead fourteen to seven and one. The
Falcons are eight five and one in games play there in Honolulu, winning the
last matchup fifty six to twenty six in twenty nineteen. Simply put, air
Force, they got to get right and do it quickly as they are hitting
the road to play in all five time zones this season. This will be
the fifth time zone that they've hit, but taken on Hawaii out of the
Mountain West as well. Timmy Chang's team struggling at three and seven overall,
Steve, Yeah, they're struggling at three and seven, but they know how
to throw the football. Although the last couple of games that the Warriors have
played you wouldn't expect that. But Braden Schreger certainly in the Chimmy the Timmy
Chang mold here. He had a four hundred and twenty yard game against San
Diego State. Earlier this year, he went for three point fifty against New
Mexico, so he knows how to throw the football around. But I think
this is going to be all about getting right and getting the turnover ratio fixed.
You know. I think that if you get a couple, and that's
the one thing that Treger does know how to do is throw interceptions. I
believe he's got twelve of them or fourteen of them this year already, along
to go along with his twenty two touchdowns. So you've got to be able
if you're a defensive back, take the ball away from Hawaii, give yourself
some short fields to work, and you're gonna end up with a win in
this game. Going to be honoring the Doolittle Raiders again wearing the twenty thirteen
edition of the Air Power Legacy Series uniforms, the uniforms that the Falcons debuted
and ward against Navy back on October twenty first in Annapolis. They're going to
wear them again this weekend against Hawaii. And also this one for the Cuter
Trophy, the General Lawrence Scuter Trophy, named after the first pack Air Force
Commander, a tribute to the friendship between Hawaiian Air Force and the cooperation between
the people of Hawaii and the Air Force. Trophy could see by the University
of Hawaii but sponsored by the Pacific Air Command and the Air Force Academy helped
design this trophy so that one also on the line coming up this weekend.
All right, we got our Travis Mannion Foundation Honor roll. We got a
couple of news and notes to pass along and so picks to make. We're
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he passed away and after an ied detonated near his M two A three Bradley
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sixty six Army Regiment, first Brigade, fourth Infantry Division, out of Fort
Hood, Texas. He was just twenty three years old. Out of bryn
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at brent Athyn College before two years four two years before joining the Army in
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and Jarin. His pastor in Grant Schnar said, quote, Tristan always won
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and Air Force on Yards and Stripes Service Academy Football. All right, putting
the finishing touches here on Yards and Stripes your home for Service Academy Football another
edition once again. Thanks to Gary Stoken for joining us. A little bit
earlier, we talked about the three games that we've got coming up this weekend.
A couple quick notes fast along won the East Carolina at Navy game that
we're going to be Saturday on November the eighteenth. It's going to be a
twelve noon kickoff on ESPN News and ESPN Plus. So again East Carolina at
Navy. No, it's not on the CBS Sports Network. It's going to
be on ESPN News and ESPN Plus at twelve noon Saturday, November the eighteenth.
Also, Steve, you mentioned it before we started recording. You know
a great article which I did not know was by my good friend Chuck Culpepper
from the Washington Post, but really took a deep dive into the guy coach.
I guess he's not coaching anymore, but the guy individual that has become
the man of the hour, at least in the Big Ten when it comes
to college football. Is a man named Connor Stallions, and that young man
was a graduate of the United States Naval Academy. For those who weren't aware,
he is at the center of the cheating scandal, the systematic you know,
surveillance and cheating scandal at the University of Michigan. Connor Stallions, some
people were aware that he was a Naval cab ME graduate had helped out on
the Navy staff for I guess a brief time during his tenure there in Annapolis
as as a student as a midshipman. But something that's kind of come into
light a little bit more, you know, his work with the Navy football
team. Steve Yeah, and uh when I when I heard about this story,
and I saw that that Chuck Culpeper had written, and I wanted to
make sure that I had gotten it to your attention because I was one of
the few. I was one of the people that didn't know that Connor Stallion's
was a did that attended the United States Naval Academy until I had read the
article and I was like, oh my god, he was a midshipman and
now he's in the middle of maybe the biggest college football scandal to go on
since SMU. Uh, so this is this is big. And the fact
of the matter is is that they they went and they got someone. And
yes, he went to the Naval Academy. But if you read Chuck Culpepper's
article, you'll understand that his whole family bleeds blue and maize, and so
they are huge Navy, They are huge Michigan fans, and they wanted to
uh and they are so proud. They were proud of their son being a
part of the Michigan staff at some point. And now he's found himself in
the middle of some hot water. And obviously nobody is talking to Chuck about
it, but uh, it was it was very interesting to read, uh
his research into who Connor Stallions was. And so I definitely recommend going to
uh Washington Post dot com or picking up a copy of Monday's Washington Post because
it's in there. Yeah. Even included a you know, a you know,
a report. Uh, I say a report because it came you know,
from you know, an external source or website called Soldiers to Sidelines,
and it was an account there when he was he being Connor Stallions was at
the Naval Academy on the sidelines during a Navy San Jose State game and had
you know, was on the staff or you know, helping out as a
student coach what I don't know, you know what his exact title would have
been, you know, but it was late in the game and saw something
and therefore delivered a report to Sean McGee, who was you know, then
an assistant coach now chief of staff. I went on to be chief of
staff with the University of Michigan but now is with the Chicago Bears, and
reportedly caught the attention to coach Kenney Motalolo. You can't you know, authenticate
you know this, but it's just interesting, you know that, you know,
some of the stuff he was doing, you know, kind of pop
pops up and raises an eyebrow, not just as his time there at University
of Michigan, but what he was doing as a student in midshipman at the
Naval Academy. Steve, Yeah. And and the fact of the matter is
is that this story is out there, but it cannot be corroborated. Obviously,
the Academy is not saying anything about this, and uh, you know,
people outside of the academy are saying, you know that it's very unlikely
that something like this would have would have happened. But the question then becomes,
okay, so, uh so what is the true story about this?
And uh, I'm really it's been it's captured my attention, uh for the
last month plus, and I'm really interested to see where it goes from here.
All right, let's move ahead. We got some games to pick.
Let's start up at West Point, number twenty three, Holy Cross out of
the FCS six and three taken on Army three and six again, a twelve
new kickoff on the CBS Sports Network, no line being a matchup with an
FCS opponent. Steve, which where you want to go in this one?
You know, I was thinking that that that Holy Cross may end up making
this a game, but I have a feeling that Army, you know,
Army blew out Delaware State pretty handily earlier this year. I'm not comparing Holy
Cross to Delaware State. They're a much better one FCS team, but I
certainly think that, you know, this is this is a game that I
certainly can see Army winning, winning pretty handily. I'm gonna say that the
Black Knights end up winning this game. I'll say I'll say twenty four to
fourteen, with holy Cross getting a late touchdown. I think this one's twenty
four to seven for most of the game, and then holy Cross gets a
gets a late score to pull them a little closer. But I still think
Army wins this game pretty handily. All Right, we're pretty close on the
you know differential. I've got Army thirty one to twenty. I think they're
gonna be able to score some points more than they've scored in the last few
weeks. I think they're gonna get thirty one, and I think it's going
to be somewhere in the neighborhood of a ten eleven point win for the Black
Nights getting their second straight. All Right, Navy and UAB at Navy Marine
Corps Memorial Stadium, Steve three thirty kickoff on the CBS Sports Network. UAB
a road favorite favored by a field goal in this one. What do you
think on this one? Yeah, and I think I think they're right about
that. You know, the Navy had a really hard time with EJ.
Warner and just when you think you're had. You're out of the woods.
With quarterbacks that can sling the football, I mean everywhere. Here comes Jacob
Zeno. So I have a feeling that you know is gonna have another big
day through the air. Is he gonna throw it for four eighty four and
five touchdowns? Probably not, But I do think that this is this is
going to be another test for the Navy defensive backfield that I think they're gonna
fall short on. I think you AB wins this game. I think they
end up. I think this is probably a twenty eight seventeen game for the
Blazers over the Midshipman at this point, with Jacob Zino having another opportunity to
be American Athletic Conference Player of the Week because I think he has another big
day through the air. All right, I'm gonna go. I'm also gonna
go UAB. I think UAB goes on the road and does get the win.
I think it's gonna be a little bit closer. I've got UAB in
a thirty three to twenty seven win, so the Blazers by six. I
do think Zeno is gonna have another big day against that Navy pass defense.
I think Navy's gonna be able to get something going offensively. Maybe maybe that's
a wishful thinking. Who knows in picking Navy to score at least twenty seven,
but I do think UAB gets the win by six thirty three to twenty
seven, all right. In the last one of the weekend, air Force
heading out to Hawaii taking on the Rainbows eight and one Air Force for three
and seven Hawaii and eleven o'clock Eastern Standard time, kickoff nine pm locally in
Colorado Springs. Air Force eighteen and a half point favorite over under forty eight
and a half. Do the Rainbow stand a chance in this one? Steve?
I'll tell you I will be watching the inside of my eyelids when this
game is going on. There is no way that I'm gonna be able to
stay up to watch the end of this game. But I'll tell you that
I think that Troy Calhoun is gonna have his players angry, and I think
that the Falcons are gonna play angry in this game. Normally, I don't
like giving eighteen points. Obviously it worked out for us last week taking the
eighteen and a half with Army, But you know what, I'm gonna give
the eighteen points this weekend for air Force. I think they're gonna come out.
I think this is thirty five seven, and I think they're gonna really
take Hawaii behind the proverbial woodshed for this one. I think so too.
I think air Force is fighting as they say. I think air Force comes
out and it just dominates and covers. I think it's going to be something
in the neighborhood of forty seven to seventeen. I like air Force buy more
than four touchdowns as well. So you and I are pretty much on the
same page there. You know, fairly similar in scores, but certainly we
are going the same way on all three matchups. Pick an Army, UAB
and air Force. All right, Steve, let's put a bow on it.
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