WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.160 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that I've been on for 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.120 most of my life. Ever since I was a kid, I've heard tales 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.199 of bigfoot and wild men while spending time with my friends and family. As 4 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:12.759 I grew older and read more about the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:17.039 other things strange only deepened. That's why I'm so excited to share with you 6 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:22.960 what I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The Untold Radio Network 7 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:27.480 is a live streaming podcast network that airs a new show every day across all 8 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:31.839 podcast platforms, YouTube, and more. 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Yes, yes I know aka 18 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:36.920 Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Honesty. He there and 19 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:41.319 welcome back to Sasquatchots. Thank you so much for clicking play. It is 20 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.400 Friday. I hope you had a great week. We have an amazing guest 21 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:47.239 line up for you. But as always, I want to start by inviting 22 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.280 you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, 23 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:53.040 shoot me an email. You can get me a Brian at Paranimal World 24 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:56.480 Productions dot com and head over to the website. Check it out, become 25 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:00.680 a member and help support the show. I got to sit down with Jonathan 26 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:07.519 from Washington and he has a YouTube channel called Salish Sasquatch. And Jonathan and 27 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.240 his wife Sarah have had some really amazing encounters on their property there in Washington. 28 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.319 I think you're really going to enjoy this. I've included about five minutes 29 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:21.800 of audio that Jonathan gave me permission to pull off of the Salish Sasquatch YouTube 30 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.719 channel. It's really compelling stuff. There's some wood knocks here, some whoops, 31 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.479 some weird singing. I highly suggest if you have the opportunity to listen 32 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.360 to this with headphones, you can hear these much clear. I'd really like 33 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.680 to know your thoughts on these sounds. You can certainly send me an email 34 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.319 Brian at Paranormal Warp Productions dot com let me know what you think about Jonathan's 35 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:42.759 interview and the audio that I play here. Remember, if you haven't picked 36 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.039 up your copy of Sasquatch Unleashed the Truth Behind the Legendminding book, it's out 37 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:51.560 everywhere Kendall, Amazon, Hanger one Publishing dot com. There's links right here 38 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:53.960 in the show notes. All you have to do is click that takes a 39 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.639 couple of seconds to order your copy. I'd really love for you to get 40 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.000 one today. And, last, but not least, if you haven't signed 41 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.639 up for the Bigfoot weekly newsletter. Do that now. Head over to the 42 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.960 website. It's right there on the top of the page. All you have 43 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.520 to do is put in your email address, hit sign up, and you 44 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.800 get instant access to the archive and all of the upcoming newsletters. The new 45 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.439 one will go out on Sunday morning. But enough of that, I know 46 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:16.960 you guys are ready to get into it. Jonathan's on the line, He's 47 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.639 ready to go. All that's left for you is to sit back, relax 48 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:44.639 and enjoy the show hard. I want to welcome o guest to the show. 49 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.639 It is Jonathan from Washington. Welcome to the show man. Thanks for 50 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.280 having me, Brian, I'm glad to have you. Let's get right into 51 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.680 it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What guy you interested in sasquatch 52 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.520 to begin with? As a kid, I would say that I was interested 53 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.360 in it for a lot of my life. But when stuff really started happening 54 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:06.199 was in twenty twelve. I was just going out to get something out of 55 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:11.479 my car, and as soon as I stepped outside, there was a smell 56 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:15.800 in the air. It smelled like a skunk, but like mixed with something 57 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:19.920 that smelled really foul. On one side of our property, there's a whistle 58 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:25.240 and it's just and then I'm like, oh man, and then there's a 59 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:30.000 response whistle from the other side of the property. It was after that that 60 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.199 I was just like, my brain did go to bigfoot at that point, 61 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.959 because it wasn't birds that I was hearing whistling. It was either a sasquatch 62 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.399 or a person. I just don't find it likely that it was at that 63 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:45.120 time of night. It's not a smart thing to do. Yeah, can 64 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.680 you talk a little bit about this is one of the questions that always comes 65 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.360 up on the show when the audience is talking about it. I've talked about 66 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:54.439 it with my property at nauseum. People always want to get this idea of 67 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.959 what kind of land, what kind of property we're talking about, what does 68 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.199 the surrounding area look like, because like most people, I used to think 69 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.079 these things have to be nine ten miles deep in the woods to happen. 70 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.680 The more I've talked to people over the last three years or so of doing 71 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.639 this show, and we're four hundred plus episodes in, I'm finding that these 72 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:17.800 things are really right on the periphery of society. I've actually documented cases where 73 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.439 people are living in a subdivision, they're at the end of a cul de 74 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.519 sac, and these things are coming out of the woods and looking in the 75 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.079 windows and stuff. Can you give us a lay of the land, of 76 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:29.600 where your land is and what that area looks like, and then just go 77 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:32.360 right into the rest of your encounters and your experiences. Okay, So I 78 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:38.519 live on a reservation in southwest Washington. As far as where our property is 79 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:44.319 located, we're surrounded by agriculture and cow fields. We're also right next to 80 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:48.040 a major river which is about a half mile from our property. There's a 81 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:54.920 lot of like rural residents that are sitting on one hundred acres, twenty acres, 82 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.639 five acres and stuff like that. It's not extremely populated, but we're 83 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:04.079 just on the edge where we're also tucked right up against wilderness as well. 84 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:10.120 You could go. It's not very far to where you could just be very 85 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.600 deep into the woods. It seems like to me the more I talk to 86 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.439 people, those seem to be the best scenarios honestly for people having experiences with 87 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:21.680 these things, because there is that access to the deep wilderness. But there 88 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:26.800 is that edge, like you put it, it's an edge of society that 89 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.680 these things come in, and I personally think they're extremely curious, and I 90 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.240 think we are there entertainment more oftentimes than not. And I think that is 91 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:39.079 a perfect culmination of things to happen, for these things to come in and 92 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:43.360 start messing around on people's land and on their property. So you had the 93 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.720 whistles in twenty twelve, you attributed it to Bigfoot at the time. A 94 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.879 couple of questions, is that something that's in the general zeitgeist in that area, 95 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:55.879 Is that something that people talk about openly is having experiences with SaaS watch 96 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.199 Once you get through that question, what was the next thing that happened to 97 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.040 you? As far as you're ant of these things. Oh, as far 98 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.519 as the different Indians on the reservation, I've heard of them talking about whistles, 99 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:12.839 different vocalizations like loud, deep screams. There's people that talk about hearing 100 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:16.199 chatter and stuff when they've been out fishing on the river and not trying to 101 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.240 hop around too much. But you were talking about a couple things that I 102 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:25.279 thought I could interject on. When you're talking about, like the agriculture makes 103 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.240 it easier for deer, makes it easier for elk. We get those coming 104 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:33.199 through here as well, So it's also a matter of everything else that's feeding 105 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.879 on those kind of animals as well. And one thing that's unique to the 106 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:44.199 Indian reservation is we have different fishing rights than non Indians do. So between 107 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:49.879 November and April oftentimes there's gill nets that are in the river, and sasquatch 108 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:55.639 wouldn't have to be that smart to watch Indians for years pulling fish out of 109 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:58.720 their nets, and after they leave their nets just thinking, you know what, 110 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.360 I could do the same thing really easy meal. It's a lot easier 111 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.959 than trying to catch a fish by hand. That's part of the reason why 112 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:11.439 I think that they're around this area a lot. But I forgot what the 113 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:15.079 follow up question was, like, what else unfolded? What happened from there? 114 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:16.079 Is that where you were getting at. Yeah, we'll get to that 115 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:20.319 in just a second. That's one of the things that back to the guild 116 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.800 nets and the watching people fish and those kind of things. We had a 117 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.079 round table a while back, it was probably about a month ago that I 118 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.879 was a part of over on Calling All Beings, that's a show on YouTube, 119 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.039 and Doug Hichek was there, Scott Tompkins was there, Sabilla Irwin was 120 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:37.120 on there, Amy Boo from Project Zoo book and that's one of the things 121 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.799 that came up. One of many things we talked about that night was the 122 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.240 fact that urban sprawl is a problem, and it's something I wrote about in 123 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.360 my book recently. My book just came out sasquatch unleashed the truth behind the 124 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:54.639 legend. That's one of the things I talk about there is how US expanding 125 00:08:54.639 --> 00:09:01.039 and us being human beings expanding in our land grabs and population, how would 126 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.960 that affect a being like a sasquatch and them having areas to roam freely and 127 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:09.120 not just exist but thrive. And that's one of the things that came up 128 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:15.399 during this roundtable is most people say that US encroaching on their land is causing 129 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.600 issues for them, and I'm sure on some level that it does. But 130 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.120 Doug, being the person that he is, he said, let's be honest 131 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.399 here and very much to what your point was earlier. To your point, 132 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.919 it helps deer, it helps elk, it helps the other predators, other 133 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.000 animals thrive. When we cut into certain areas and we create that edge, 134 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.679 animals tend to thrive. And I think that is something that I know, 135 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.840 at least, I haven't really considered a lot about sasquatch until after that conversation, 136 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.080 and I said, you know what, I think Doug may be right 137 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.639 there because of what we do as human beings in some of the areas we 138 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:52.840 go into when we create that edge. It makes it a lot easier for 139 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:58.080 other animals to thrive and have access to agriculture. Deer eat the corn. 140 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:03.440 Other things eat are the things the corn, and it just continues to snowball 141 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.399 up to and including I think an apex predator, like in this area here 142 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.200 we have black bear and grizzlies up north and possibly sasquatch. I think it 143 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:16.240 helps everything in that area. So that's not something that I've really thought a 144 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.840 lot about before that roundtable, But it's curious that you bring it up now 145 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:24.519 because I think you're absolutely right. I think these things are thriving in certain 146 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.279 areas because of the agriculture and the things that are going on with farms and 147 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.120 what human beings are doing. Also in a lot of places in Washington, 148 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.200 when you look at some of the hot beds where a lot of activity happens, 149 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.639 it's in areas that are very similar to where we live. You don't 150 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:45.200 necessarily have to go fifty miles deep in the wilderness on the peninsula on forced 151 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:48.799 service roads to have an encounter. I think it can be a lot harder 152 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.360 to have an encounter in situations like that because you're essentially looking for a needle 153 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.879 in a haystack. Yeah, it's definitely the truth. Most of the people 154 00:10:56.879 --> 00:11:00.000 that I have on the show who share their experiences, it is while they're 155 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.840 out hunting, just on the outskirts of an edge where there are other human 156 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.360 beings. It's very rare, unless you're Todd standing that you have these encounters 157 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:11.480 where you're eighteen miles deep in the woods. Right to that point, I 158 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.440 did have some really weird experiences while I was up in radium with Todd. 159 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:20.000 I didn't see anything, but there have been people that have claimed to go 160 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:22.639 out there eighteen miles deep and see things. But again to your point, 161 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.759 I think it's very interesting that you bring that up. It is that needle 162 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.559 in a haystack. When you have so many places for them to be, 163 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.799 it's very difficult for us to go out there and find them, especially if 164 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.639 they don't want to be found. I think there may be occasions where these 165 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.840 things might want to, for whatever reason, show themselves two people. That's 166 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.799 a whole nother story for another day. You had this experience in twenty twelve, 167 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.480 you had the whistling, you heard the response, you thought it was 168 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.440 bigfoot. Then once that happened, how long did it take before you had 169 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.000 other experiences with these things. Immediately after that happened, I started spending a 170 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.679 lot of time outside following days. We have a gazebo in our backyard where 171 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.519 I have a fire pit. I just started sitting by the fire seeing what 172 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.919 I could hear at night. It wasn't necessarily every night, but sometimes there 173 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:16.759 would be like things happening multiple times a week to where I couldn't place what 174 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.240 kind of animal it was that I was hearing at the time. It would 175 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:24.519 be like a combination of loud vocalizations, like powerful vocalizations. One of the 176 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.480 most common things that we would hear would be rock clacking. There'd be that 177 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:33.440 when you hear what sounds like one tree knock, or what is described as 178 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.320 a tree knock. If it's just one, that can always be interesting. 179 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.240 But a lot of times that kind of stuff just happens naturally without having a 180 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.960 bigfoot being associated with anything. But it's the knocks that are like in a 181 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.919 pattern that I would pay attention to during that time. So I'd spent quite 182 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.639 a bit of time outside. So that was in October or November of twenty 183 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:01.200 twelve that we became aware I've heard of tons of Indians on the reservation throughout 184 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.000 my life talking about their stories and encounters. But it was then that it 185 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.840 really clicked. As far as all the places on the reservation, like we 186 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.480 do have one of the best crossing points where right by the river, there's 187 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.480 another creek that's right behind us. We're just in an environment that would be 188 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.360 more ideal than most of the other places on the reservation. Not that stuff 189 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.919 doesn't happen at other places. It definitely does. But that's when I started 190 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.600 focusing on spending time outside for a couple hours every night, just sitting by 191 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:37.600 the fire and listening. And then there was stuff would happen often, but 192 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.720 it seemed as if after about May I wouldn't notice as much activity. So 193 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.679 this would be like following May of twenty thirteen. But what happened in April 194 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.559 is my wife and I we were trying to visually see one and so we 195 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.440 thought it would be a good idea to go into this place in the woods 196 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:00.480 that's not far from our house and start putting some food out. Whether or 197 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:05.000 not we were just feeding raccoons and rodents and things like that, I don't 198 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:11.559 know, But on this particular occasion it was the first week in April of 199 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:16.759 twenty thirteen. And as we're approaching the tree line, we start hearing some 200 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.120 rock clacking, some knocking. We start hearing chatter back there as well as 201 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:28.000 like whistling and stuff, So it wasn't just one individual that we were coming 202 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.679 across. I think they were signaling, hey, somebody's coming, and my 203 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.000 wife's about As soon as we get into the tree line, my wife's about 204 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:37.639 twelve fifteen feet ahead of me, and I look off to my left about 205 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:43.080 one hundred feet away, and I could see this sasquatch approaching a tree and 206 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.919 it was acting as if it was like trying to hide behind the tree, 207 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.240 but it wasn't. That tree wasn't providing a whole lot of cover because it 208 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.399 looks silly based on how big the sasquatch was that was behind it. I 209 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:01.919 mean it was hunched over and it would be moving its head real fast, 210 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.360 back and forth, up and down, just really fast. I can't even 211 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:11.039 imitate like the how quick the head movement was. But I couldn't make out 212 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:15.600 a lot of detail in the face because the it was about I'm guessing whatever 213 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.919 time right before sunset is and April I'm guessing around seven or so, so 214 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:24.039 there was some sunlight coming through, but it was shadowy enough within the woods 215 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.559 to not be able to get a clear look at the face. But I 216 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.159 could see like the conical shaped head. I could see light hitting some of 217 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.360 its hair where it was reddish brown. I don't know what it was doing 218 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.000 prior to that, but the hair on its back was like clumped together. 219 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:46.200 If it was either muddy, dirty, or oily, but the hair on 220 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.200 the back was like clumped together. I could also see, based on the 221 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.440 way he was positioned, He's at an angle around the tree, so I 222 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.879 couldn't see like how broad his shoulders were at that time, but his butt 223 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:03.159 and his legs were very musker. I could notice detail there, and I 224 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.360 was telling my wife. I was like, Sarah, it's right there. 225 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.480 She just wasn't ready to see it at the time. She was too afraid. 226 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.399 And it got to the point where I was told her, I was 227 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:12.919 like, we got to go, because this thing's looking at me, and 228 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.440 I'm looking at it from the corner of my eye because I don't want to 229 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:19.799 be challenging. I'm scared. At that time, she's pacing back and forth 230 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.399 nervous, not knowing what to do, and it gets to the point where 231 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:29.879 we start arguing with each other because we're both frustrated and afraid. The last 232 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.120 time that I glanced over at it, it was like hunched or really low 233 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.080 to the ground, and then it started laying on the ground. It started 234 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.519 getting so low. But when he was standing up and peeking around the tree 235 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:45.519 and moving back and forth real quick, he was hunched over. You know 236 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:49.360 what a doorframe looks like, and a doorframe is an average doorframe is six 237 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.720 foot eight, so hunched over, he was every bit of six foot eight 238 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.600 at one hundred feet away. If he was standing erect, I don't know 239 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.440 how tall he would have been, but he was big. So eventually we 240 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:04.559 did leave, and that was the last that I saw of it on that 241 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:10.839 particular occasion. I can definitely get being scared in the woods. There's so 242 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:14.960 many people that you talk to, and they hear people's encounters and they say, 243 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.039 oh, why didn't you do this, or why didn't you go towards 244 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.319 it, or why didn't you do that. I'm gonna tell you, man, 245 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:22.759 I've said it on the show famously before I've walked down my path here 246 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:27.039 when it's dark here. It is like zero dark thirty. There's no light 247 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.799 around, there's no light pollution. And I've walked down the path here before 248 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:34.079 going to close the gate or whatever, pretty late at night, and I 249 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.160 have a freaking raccoon run across and it scares the shit out of me. 250 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.839 You just get that moment of fright. It doesn't last long. When you 251 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.000 say it's a coon. You're like, oh, it's a raccoon. But 252 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.599 I want to tell you something, man, I couldn't imagine seeing something that 253 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:52.720 big, even from one hundred feet away. That's relatively close. It's not 254 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.400 a huge distance for this thing to close if it wanted to do something nefarious 255 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.519 and come at you or your wife. I can only imagine the adream and 256 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.480 what would have been going through your mind. And I can tell you I 257 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.839 can certainly see other people being stressed out and arguing in that situation. Yeah, 258 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.640 And one thing that I didn't mention was as afraid as my wife and 259 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.839 I were at the time, this thing looked like it was equally as afraid 260 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:18.799 of us. And when you got a creature that's afraid, I'm seeing how 261 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.400 fast he can move around that tree with his head and stuff, and how 262 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.640 big the lower half of his body is, like how muscular it is. 263 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:30.839 He looked very explosive, like if he wanted to take off and start running 264 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:37.079 somewhere, he was completely capable of closing the distance on us if he needed 265 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.759 to. I don't think that they ever had any I don't think it had 266 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:45.559 that type of intention or anything. But that was my biggest concern was how 267 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.079 fast he looked like he probably was yeah, man, Like I said, 268 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.599 that's too close for comfort for me. So this usually does one or two 269 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.759 things for people at daylight siding. You're clearly seeing what you're seeing. There's 270 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.680 no doubt about what you're seeing. I guess I asked the question. I 271 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.440 think I know the answer, but I want to I'm sure other people are 272 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.279 asking themselves this because I asked people this often on the show. Did it 273 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:11.240 send you down the path of wanting to know more? Did you go completely 274 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:12.680 down the rabbit hole? Or were you done? At that point You're like, 275 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:15.119 Okay, screw it, I've seen one. I don't want anything to 276 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.880 do with that. Which one happened for you after you had your side? 277 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.599 I was more afraid to go into the woods at that time, but my 278 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:27.200 level of interest like completely escalated. And there was another significant thing that happened 279 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:33.279 that April as well. There was some loud roaring and if you'd like, 280 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.200 you could go to my YouTube channel and find that clip and insert it in 281 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.200 here if you want. But there was some loud roaring that was happening, 282 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:47.400 probably about four or five hundred yards away from where we were at. And 283 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:52.119 so my wife Sarah pulls out her cell phone and just with the audio starts 284 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.440 recording. And my brother Ben was with us at the time, and you 285 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.160 could hear him as she's recording the audio. He goes sounds like it's down 286 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.200 there in the field. And then one thing I hate about that audio clip 287 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.200 is I have a couple different versions of that audio clip. On the one 288 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:12.720 that wasn't like that, I didn't clip. You hear me go, man, 289 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:17.319 I hate how I sound. But I heard something in the tree lined 290 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:19.440 closer to us, and I was just I was scared of ship at that 291 00:20:19.519 --> 00:21:15.400 time. I get down there in the open. In April of twenty thirteen, 292 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.119 we recorded one of our favorite audio clips. My brother in law, 293 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:22.880 my husband, and I were all outside when we heard some loud roaring. 294 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:29.000 I grabbed my Samsung Galaxy phone and started recording. This is that audio clip 295 00:21:37.160 --> 00:21:52.000 under down there in the open, under down there in the open. This 296 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:57.160 is the approximate location where we believe the sasquatch was. It was still daylight 297 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:02.039 and as the crow fly as were about a quarter mile away from where we 298 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:06.599 were, and we could feel the sound in our chest because it was so 299 00:22:06.839 --> 00:23:14.640 loud. We could feel the thumping under down there in the opening music music, 300 00:23:18.279 --> 00:25:17.160 music, music, ties music, te wah wah wah wa. Huh 301 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:45.480 man, I don't know life, little hoop around the side. H Stay 302 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.240 tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages. 303 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.680 Yeah, I can only imagine. Man, did they get closer to 304 00:25:55.799 --> 00:26:00.640 the house where you only haven't experiences when you were going out into sort of 305 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.200 their territory. There was times that we've heard them like very close to like 306 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:10.119 our like where our house is, like within a couple hundred feet and stuff. 307 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.319 But usually they would stay on the outer edges on the tree lines. 308 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:18.640 But between two thousand and like, all of the sidings, all of the 309 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.000 four sidings that I had, the daylight siding and the others were all in 310 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:27.880 twenty thirteen. Heard them many times since then, but hearing them and seeing 311 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:33.000 them is two completely different things. Like they're very good at hiding. Yeah, 312 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.160 no doubt, man, So take us through the other couple of sidings 313 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:40.440 that you had in twenty thirteen. Okay, after what I had just explained 314 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:45.039 to you in April, it was almost between April and I would say that 315 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:51.000 end of August it was, I would say close to We didn't experience anything, 316 00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:55.960 and then towards the end of August, like things started. They started 317 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.440 like coming around again. Sarah had talked with somebody and they had lent us 318 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:06.200 a thermal camera that didn't have a on board recording. There was one particular 319 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.559 night that Sarah and I were out behind the house and we were just listening 320 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.079 for a few minutes, and then all of a sudden, something metallic starts 321 00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:18.119 banging on this pot and we started running back to the house and I go 322 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.440 inside and grab a flashlight because I did want to get a peek at what 323 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.599 I suspected it was. I did think it was a bigfoot at the time. 324 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.720 So I get about thirty forty feet away and I pulled my flashlight up 325 00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:37.240 and these eyes are just reflecting off of my light, and they were high 326 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.400 up. It was six six and a half beat up, and it was 327 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.759 so quick that I couldn't I'm talking about a quarter of a second. I 328 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.319 had the light on and then just turned away. There was more that I 329 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.359 saw than just the eyes, but I couldn't. If I was to tell 330 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.160 you, like what the face looked like, it wouldn't be. I was 331 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.000 more focused on the eyes than anything else, So I can't recall any details 332 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.279 like from the face because it was so quick. I go back over by 333 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.240 Sarah and she goes in the house and grabs that thermal camera and she's watching 334 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.319 it, and she's telling me as she's watching it that it's like swaying back 335 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.079 and forth. It was real frustrating that we didn't have and we're at a 336 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.200 safe position, like we're right by the back door of the house at this 337 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:19.960 point. We feel safe. At this point, we're not close up to 338 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:25.480 it, and I tell her to put her camera up to the viewfinder in 339 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:30.519 the thermal unit, and so she did, and she took a snapshot of 340 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.240 it, and it was behind these BlackBerry bushes at the time that were there, 341 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.440 and what we got through that snapshot it was just a If you're just 342 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:44.359 looking at it, it's just a blob. But putting everything in context, 343 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.559 like banging, the metallic banging that we heard, eyes that I had seen, 344 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.279 and then she's watched it swaying back and forth, and then the picture 345 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.160 that she gets of it when it's behind the BlackBerry bushes where it's essentially a 346 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:02.279 blob. David Ellis had came over, who's an investigator. He had came 347 00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:06.799 over and he had measured the height of what we had on thermal and it 348 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.119 was about six foot five. We had also noticed that what it was banging 349 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.880 on there was this old, rusty metallic pot that was back there. So 350 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.559 that was the what it was banging on, we assumed, because there was 351 00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.359 nothing else metallic that was back there though we could see. So that was 352 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:27.839 I believe that was September of twenty thirteen. And then after that had happened, 353 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.680 we had David had taken that device back and we had gotten a different 354 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.319 thermal unit that had a recording capability. They had lent it to us. 355 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:44.240 It was on October thirtieth of twenty thirteen. My brother Ben and I we 356 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:48.039 were just sitting out in the back by the fire, and on that day 357 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.920 there was these cows that the rancher who was leasing the property behind us from 358 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.799 the tribe. He was shipping off cows to a different pasture. They were 359 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.519 all making a lot of bellowings and the sounds make when they're under stress. 360 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:06.400 We weren't even recording audio that night because the cows were making so much noise. 361 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.319 But there was one point where I hear this light tapping on a tree 362 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.680 and I turn on the thermal unit. Me and Ben didn't even We would 363 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:17.720 just look through it and play around and say, oh cool. We could 364 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.680 see through thermal, but we didn't really know the device very well. And 365 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.920 I had turned on the thermal unit, I could see this what looked like 366 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.960 a human shaped head low to the ground, as if it was like laying 367 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:32.039 on the ground. And then I'm looking at the device trying to get it 368 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.799 to record. By the time I see where the buttons are, it had 369 00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:40.759 changed positions. So there's this berm that drops down a ridge that drops down 370 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.240 below our place. It drops down about eight feet, so the position that 371 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.519 it had changed to it was behind that berm, so you're looking at it 372 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.839 from chest up. At this time, I'm thinking that I'm recording at that 373 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.759 point, but what I'm doing is taking snapshots until Ben and go I don't 374 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.960 think it's recording, so he takes a look at it, he gets it 375 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.680 recording, and it goes for two and a half minutes or so. I 376 00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.559 was told by David that there was an auto shutdown feature on the camera. 377 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.359 Whether it was that or whether it was the batteries, I don't know what 378 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.920 had happened, but at two minutes, like two minutes and twenty five seconds, 379 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.000 two and a half minutes, whatever it was, it shuts down, 380 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.960 and so we're messing with it, turned on lights, trying to get it 381 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:29.200 started back up again. By the time we had looked, the creature was 382 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:34.359 gone. But the following days when we were going over there to look where 383 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.519 it was at, there was some really big impressions that were on the ground, 384 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.960 and so we went and got some casting material. And we only had 385 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.119 we decided instead of we weren't. We were new to the whole subject as 386 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.039 far as trying to be like investigators and researchers and stuff like that. I 387 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.880 still don't even consider myself a researcher. I'm just a big foot enthusiast, 388 00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:01.599 but we had decided just to cast the the clearest of the two impressions. 389 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.559 So we got that, which was where it was standing. There was other 390 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.960 stuff too, but it wasn't that clear, and we just wanted to cast 391 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.200 the clearest of the prints that were there. So that was October thirtieth of 392 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:22.359 twenty thirteen. It was just sometime between eleven o'clock and midnight. It seemed 393 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:28.920 as if there was a sweet spot around eleven o'clock to one o'clock where a 394 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:34.200 lot of the activity would happen during that time. Between twenty thirteen fourteen, 395 00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:39.480 there'd be times that I would stay out at night until midnight just because so 396 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:45.200 much was going on. I simply don't spend as much time as I did 397 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:49.200 outside before, because I really started getting burned out and exhausted after a while. 398 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.480 Yeah, I can only imagine. Man, it does take a toll 399 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.960 when you're staying up late and you're going out and just the adrenaline. I 400 00:32:54.960 --> 00:33:00.640 don't think people really understand what adrenaline does to the body, being up and 401 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.000 down, hearing this, seeing that, hearing this, oh what was that? 402 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.799 It can really wear you out. Man. I've been out in the 403 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.759 woods, And when I was up in radium for seven days and we're in 404 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.720 and out of doing night walks and adrenaline dumps and those kind of things, 405 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.519 it wore me out. There was after a couple of days, I was 406 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:22.200 just blown completely out. I can only imagine what other people go through that 407 00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.440 go out in the woods almost daily looking for these things. So you had 408 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.400 two interesting things that happened. When was the next couple of experiences that you 409 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.079 had with them after that? So one that happened prior to the this was 410 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:38.759 between the one that Sarah had taken that snapshot, between that and the thermal. 411 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.160 There was a time where me and my brother Ben, we were sitting 412 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.960 out there and we hear this rock clacking from across the road, and we 413 00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:52.799 go over there and we have lights with us. Our lights pick up on 414 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:58.640 these bright eyes that are across the road. They were definitely reflective of our 415 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.200 lights. And it wasn't just it wasn't just like a white light that was 416 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.519 reflective. It was almost like there was like a greenish or a yellowish tint 417 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.079 to the eyes as well. I don't recall which of the two it was, 418 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.440 but we were looking at it for it seemed like a minute. It 419 00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.280 was probably less than that. It was probably like fifteen twenty seconds, and 420 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.599 then it just there's another drop on the other side of the road where it 421 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:24.719 just turned and went away from us at that time. But the eyes that 422 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:29.920 I saw it was unlike any other kind of eyes that I've seen. Yeah, 423 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.800 I've had people talk about how reflective these eyes are. Of course, 424 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:38.400 you have stories that people tell about they feel like they're luminescent, like they're 425 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:44.280 illuminating from within these creatures, which I think is very interesting. I think 426 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.119 most of the time when I've talked to people that have seen the eye shine, 427 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.719 it tends to be more of the situational thing where you're pumped up, 428 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.639 You're adrenaline is pumping, you don't realize that there's a light so horse coming 429 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:59.320 from somewhere else. And I don't necessarily think these things are illuminating their own 430 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.000 eyes, but it's definitely an interesting I've heard the same thing too by other 431 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.039 people who I find credible that have talked about no, they were creating their 432 00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.960 own light source. I've never experienced anything like that, but I can't say 433 00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.519 that doesn't happen. I have on one occasion there's people that talk about seeing 434 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.079 red eyes. There was one occasion on our property where I was sitting outside 435 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:27.960 and it looked as if I could see this like red light that was going 436 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.679 off that was like walking off in the distance. It wasn't like I was 437 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.920 seeing two of them, so I can't say that. I can't rule that 438 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.840 out, like somebody that's had a red head lamp on that was like trying 439 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:44.599 to find mushrooms or something like that. But nothing else can really made sense 440 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.360 to me unless it was somebody with a red head lamp on. But I'm 441 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.760 not saying that the red that I saw, I'm not saying it was Sasquatch's 442 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.719 red eyes. I just know that I've heard many accounts that sound very believable 443 00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:00.400 about them having red eyes where they're creating their own light as well. Not 444 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.199 saying that's the case. I'm just saying one time I saw a red light 445 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:08.360 That isn't really my experience to tell, but it was in twenty fourteen. 446 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.440 We were outside and we have an audio clip of it. But across the 447 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:22.880 road from us, there's this tree knocking like really aggressive and vocalizations coming from 448 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.599 there, and another spot that's about three hundred yards away. It sounded as 449 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.679 if there was at least four different creatures, and it sounded completely not that 450 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.000 we ever got to a point where it's like, yep, we know their 451 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:37.679 behavior, what they're doing, and stuff like we can only talk about like 452 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:43.280 stuff that we've heard, but it just seemed like completely different behavior than anything 453 00:36:43.320 --> 00:36:45.840 we had experienced before it. And so on that time, we don't know 454 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:51.880 that it wasn't we tend to think that it was possibly an interaction with another 455 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.000 group that was coming through, because I don't think that when during that particular 456 00:36:55.119 --> 00:37:00.440 time, I don't think that there was like six sasquatch were often coming through 457 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:05.199 our area or anything like that. I think that would have been much more 458 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.920 noticeable, just like this particular night where it seemed as if there was more 459 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.639 of them, because anytime before, like we would hear like at what most 460 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.199 sounded like two or three of them, and oftentimes it seems like when they 461 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.519 would be walking at night, like when they would rock clack back and forth 462 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:28.960 or vocalize like making whoops and stuff like that, sometimes it seems like they 463 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.519 would keep some space between each other where like they maybe it's like a hunting 464 00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:38.440 technique or something where they are traveling a couple hundred yards apart and just spreading 465 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:43.199 themselves out a little bit. Definitely could be. Man, I don't ask 466 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.760 everybody on the show this question. I know other people ask us all the 467 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.440 time, but I try to save this for people who have actually had a 468 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:54.719 pretty close up class A BFRO class A siding of these things. And you 469 00:37:54.840 --> 00:38:00.320 clearly had one in the daytime from one hundred feet away. So even what 470 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.519 you've experienced, given what you've seen of these things, what do you think 471 00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.639 these things are? Do you think they are just a flesh and blood similar 472 00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.079 to other great apes? Do you think they're closer to us? What is 473 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.760 your opinion? And it clearly it's objective. I'm not asking you to make 474 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:20.400 any definitive statements, but your subjective opinion or what do you think these things 475 00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.199 are? I think there's some type of an ape that's simply a lot closer 476 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:29.039 to us than anything else that we're aware of. But I've heard of a 477 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.400 lot of people talking about like how they can do like supernatural things and stuff 478 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:37.280 like that. There's been times where I've entertained that thought, But when it 479 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:43.559 comes down to it, I've never experienced anything supernatural regarding Bigfoot at all. 480 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:45.639 Yeah, fair enough, man, I'm right there with you. I think 481 00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.199 they're definitely some sort of a flesh and blood creature that people are experiencing. 482 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.039 They're just very good at eluding people most of the time, unless they again, 483 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.199 I feel sometimes for whatever reason, they just decide to show themselves to 484 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.519 certain people. I don't know, you mentioned it a couple of times. 485 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.079 Let's talk a little bit about your YouTube channel. What you have over there? 486 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.519 Where can people find it? What's the name of the channel so they 487 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.079 can go and check it out. The name of it is Dalish Sasquatch. 488 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:15.599 That's Salish and then Sasquatch and on there. We have a fair amount of 489 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.119 audio that had came from here. I think you were asking me about significant 490 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.039 stuff, and midway through what I was going to tell you, I started 491 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:25.960 out saying that I was going to say, this isn't really my story to 492 00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.400 share. Then I inserted a different experience because I changed my mind. I 493 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.360 didn't know if I wanted to talk about that at that point. But the 494 00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.920 one that's not necessarily my story to share is in twenty fourteen as well, 495 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:44.639 we had some people over at our place and Sarah Shannon Legroux, she has 496 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.760 a bigfoot podcast. She was out at our property and they saw something through 497 00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.039 thermal on one of the sides of our property. They weren't sure where it 498 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.519 was, not really convinced either way. It's just one of those things that 499 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.079 they found interesting. So the next day they were trying to do some size 500 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:05.320 comparisons to figure out what it was that they saw. And I don't remember 501 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:08.400 the outcome of how big whatever it was that they saw, but they weren't 502 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:12.639 convinced that it was a bigfoot or anything like that. So in the midst 503 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:15.440 of them like taking pictures and everything like that, trying to get a hype 504 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:22.800 estimate. Let's fast forward a year later. Sarah's on the computer and she's 505 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:28.760 clearing SD cards and in the one of the pictures, you could see what 506 00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:35.000 clearly looks like ahead looking over at her, and you know how pictures are, 507 00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.559 sometimes something can be really small and appear big. The only thing about 508 00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:42.760 this picture is how high up it is and where it was where it had 509 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.559 to have been standing at the time, and there's also a leaf in front 510 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:51.480 of its face, and so it's not an optical illusion of something that you're 511 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.599 looking at that appears to be further away and it's actually close up. But 512 00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:01.840 we believe that there's a the picture that she got there is a picture of 513 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.880 Sasquatches had at that time. I love Shannon. She's a great person. 514 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.880 If you haven't checked out Shannon and the Groves Show, you guys, check 515 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:12.679 out Into the Fray. It's a great podcast. She does a lot of 516 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.480 great stuff. Man, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences 517 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.760 with us. Everybody, go check out say Sasquatch. I will link to 518 00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.760 it in the show notes. You guys go over and subscribe and show Jonathan 519 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:24.760 some love. We appreciate it very much. Man. All right, thanks 520 00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.519 for having me, Brian. They say you don't gotta go home, but 521 00:41:30.760 --> 00:42:08.400 you can't. Stays chop this job, that chid, everything come right back, 522 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:16.159 right back for joy from me. Enjoy staying right. You come in 523 00:42:16.400 --> 00:43:22.239 right away. Steps set steps, do not talk about THESSAS state passes still 524 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:30.719 stasst us uses