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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to I in the Bar here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera, He's Jaganzas got our
guy Jason and today fifteen minutes on this

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first segment, before we talked to
our first guest, who is Judy McDermott.

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Yes, have you You've talked to
her on the show before? Yeah?

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Yeah, and I worked with ronson
stuff. Yeah. Great, Well

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a great girl, great person over
at First Team getting little kids to get

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involved in golf. Yeah, after
moving from being the Keys to Door executive

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director forever forever and ever, forever
and ever. We'll talk about all the

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stuff that she's up to, because
I know I saw some things that you

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were emailed to me First Team to
have a big team in July, so

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I said, hey, let's get
Judy on ye. So summer everyone was

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golfing in this heat of course,
crazy crazy people. Yeah, I mean

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it, Uh, you know,
now's the time to play golf. Man.

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You can play cheap. You can
stand the heat. You can play

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cheap if you can survive. It's
it's very simple. It's very simple.

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Okay, load up on water before
you go play. Okay, I'm running

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this down load right, it's down
Load up on water. Make yourself a

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sandwich, okay, peanut, butter
and jelly. Uh, you know,

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a roast beef sandwich. Just a
you know, not not some not some

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massive sandwich, just a regular,
regular wonder bread or something. Just a

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sandwich. Take a piece of fruit, like an apple or an orange.

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Stuff it in your bag. Go
play. Just keep drinking water. At

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the turn, eat your sandwich,
all right, a player nine holes,

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Eat your sandwich, eat your piece
of fruit. You're rejuvenated, and you

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finish the round. Then you go
home. You kick all the kids out

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of the house, you kick the
kick the dog out of the house.

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That you go, lay in your
bed and go to sleep. Sounds so

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simple. If it's that simple,
and it's all that for a for a

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very low price of about forty bucks, I would just instead of paying the

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quarter bugs, stay on that couch, have the remote in your hand,

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and watch you know, it gets
it gets you out of chores for the

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day. All right. You know, I go home and my wife doesn't

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make me cut the grass or even
do the dishes. She goes. I

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know you're tired, Just go go
rest. She's a sin. You had

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a tough day. I know what
I'm not doing anymore is I'm not I'm

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not playing golf on the day that
I also have to call the Sugar Skulls

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game. So tomorrow tomorrow. Um. I did that once and I was

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still sweating when I got to the
arena after going home, taking a shower,

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putting on a suit, and going
I was still sweating from golf.

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But but hey, Sugar Scoes tomorrow, man, Sugar Sculls somewhere. We

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had a good interview with the coach, Yeah, with the assistant coaching David

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Jackson. And wait, wait you
hear this? What's that? Son of

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silence? There's nothing happening on the
PAC twelve deal on June thirtieth. Oh

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you say that's true. What's your
prediction? Well, just because you know

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the State Open day, No,
no, no, nothing happened because today's

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yeah yeah, no, we had
the deadline. Now the deadline seemingly would

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be for the media day gonna happen. You know, here's what you know,

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what I think is gonna happen now
at this point, I don't don't.

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I don't think go ahead because well
no, because San Diego State doesn't

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have seventeen million dollars extra double the
feat. I don't think San Diego State's

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coming in in twenty twenty four.
I think I think San Diego State.

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I think the PAC twelve will get
their TV deal with contingencies for you know,

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adding teams, and I don't think
those teams get added until a year

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from now, so twenty five,
so that they'll be in the twenty five

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season. Yeah yeah, well right, yeah, because it seems like twenty

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four would be too soon. But
what the heck, I mean, everything's

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so delayed now. Yeah, I
don't know, and that I think the

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PAC twelve, This is my thought
today. I think the PAC twelve will

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play ten day ten teams this coming
year, not this coming the first year

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that the first year the usc U, the PAC twelve will be ten teams.

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Then they add two teams the year
after that. Okay, Okay,

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that's that's kind of bell. Okay, that makes that's a fifty fifteen proposition.

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That sounds good. Right? Are
you getting this from where I'm making

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it up as it go along?
Okay, I'm proud of you. I'm

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proud of you because typically, well
this is what I've heard. No,

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No, I haven't heard anything,
you know. Um, I mean you've

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you've you've heard a bunch of scenarios. But seventeen million dollars is a lot

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for extra seventeen million dollars. San
Diego State can now because they have said

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today they're not leaving the now,
They're not leaving now today, they're not

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putting in their notice today. Um. And so you know at this point

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they've got another year. Now,
in the next year they can say,

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okay, we're leaving after next year, you know, give the one year

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notice and not pay that extra seventeen
million bucks because seventy minut there's a lot

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of money. This is a dumb
question about asking anyway, Even ask Jason.

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His thoughts are because I think kind
of who to sucks. So you

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have one hundred men in a room
and you give him this, this and

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this topic, how many actually give
a crap? And how actually how many

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don't? Because you know, where
I stand, there's about ten to do.

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Ten that's probably where you are.
Yeah, there's a couple. I

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probably care because exactly even if you're
a sports fan, yeah, okay,

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you might not be a college sports
fan. And if you're college sports fan,

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you might not be a packed ball
fan, right right, if you're

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you know, you might not be. No, it maybe ten out of

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a hun. It's big news.
I agree with all that stuff. But

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but you know, what's the impact
on you? Blif right? If that?

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Yeah, if that, you'll be
doing the same job you've done all

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your life and blah blah blah.
And I know I asked Wilder that question,

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and it's biggest thing he's covered.
And I get that because he's trenched

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in it. But but to you
and me and your beer buddies that you

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hang out with, Oh okay,
what's next? Yeah, well they can't.

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They care because they want to know
what's going on. But once it's

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right, it's not it's it's not
right. One. It's not keeping them

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up at night, great, not
affecting their lives in a way that they're

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going crazy. You know, who
does the build bill? You know what's

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gonna happen. I need to know
it. Well, yeah, listener,

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now he's like you, he wants
to know. He wants to know.

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Now, Yeah, I get it, I get it, but I don't

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get it. Well, I've sort
of i've sort of I've sort of loosened

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up on that because it was no
no sense in getting all worked up.

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It's like, well, and I've
said that. I've said that a few

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times. That was eleven months ago, you know what I've said. But

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I've said a few times it's not
I don't care what happens. I just

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wanted to happen right in the end, whatever wherever we wind up with the

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with the conference, with how many
teams are in the PAC twelve, with

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what conference Arizona's in, with whatever
the TV deal whatever, expand all that

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stuff. In the end, my
life goes on, right, and I'll,

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you know, if they're in the
Big twelve, okay, I'll watch

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the Big twelve. If they're in
the PAC twelve or Pac ten, I'll,

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you know, fine, whatever happens
happens. So I'm not I'm not

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worked up about that anymore. Okay. When this, when this first started,

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one of the things that I was
really worked up about Steve was Arizona

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winding up sort of as a kind
of an irrelevant program. Okay, by

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that, I mean, you know, the PAC twelve dies, Arizona winds

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up in the Mountain West, or
isn't in a good spot. You know,

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I know you believe that people I
thought, I know I thought early

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on because you didn't. Right,
if the PAC twelve crumbles, where's the

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pack, where's the Arizona going to
wind up? And so now you know

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that. Yeah, now I believe
either they're gonna stay in a PAC twelve

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that's you know, continues to be
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the conversation, or are they gonna
be in the Big twelve. Either one

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of those is fine. Right,
It's not gonna fall into the Mountain West.

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It's not gonna be right. It's
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scrapping. I don't know why,
Why did you think that? I was

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worried. What I was worried about
is that the PAC twelve would wind up

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in a place where it wouldn't you
know, it wouldn't have an opportunity like

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you know, big football played big
time bowl games and those kinds of things.

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That's the thing that worried me in
nineteen seventy seven all over again.

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Yeah. So now now that I
feel like, if they don't wind up

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in the Pac twelve, they're going
to the Big twelve, I'm fine with

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that. Yeah, of course I'm
not worked up about that. I still

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want to know what's gonna happen.
It's a win win, except if the

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TV deal is not a win,
right, it's a cheap win. Right.

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I still want to know what's gonna
happen. I just I'm not work

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I'm not worked up about whether it's
gonna be bad for Arizona. I think

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whatever happens, Arizona is gonna be
just fine. Yeah, no, I

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agree with Finally, eleven months later, you feel maybe maybe it's because you

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know, it's because of the basketball
program, Right, Arizona's got an asset

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that an ASU doesn't have. Washington
State doesn't have, Oregon State does not

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have, uh Cal does not have. You know, they don't nobody they

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don't have the basketball asset that Arizona
have. It's funny you say that because

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we've talked to Michelle, Michelle Gardner
and some people from Phoenix, what and

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this is none of our areal coverage. What does a sue have? What's

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their what's their uh cache? See, if I'm a CEO, i am

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worried that I'm gonna wind up in
the mountain. Yeah, Okay. If

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I'm Washington State, I'm worried that
I'm gonna wind up in the mountain.

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Oregon State today it's good in football
football, but three years ago it was

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not. So you know, how
how how do people see Oregon State?

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You know? Um where you know? Where can they wind up? Look,

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Oregon and Washington are gonna be fine
wherever they wind up. Right,

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They're gonna say in the factball,
you're gonna be in the Big Ten.

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They're gonna be somewhere, right.
Stanford probably will because because of its academic

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somebody's gonna take them somewhere. Okay, regardless of how bad their football has

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been recently and how bad their basketball
has been re because Stanford is Stanford,

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right, Stanfords, like Notre Dame
is as it relates to that, They're

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gonna wind up somewhere right then,
Okay, USC and UC later gone.

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So who does that leave That leaves
you a su Oregon State, Washington State,

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the Utah wind up somewhere too,
because their football program will been good

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for a long time. Academically they're
good and they've got a good all around

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that department. Right, So I
didn't want Arizona to be as U or

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Washington State or Oregon State, and
I don't think they are or will be

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because of the basketball asset. Yeah, so that's that's kind of so how

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can I worry about that is long
gone? I still want to know,

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but I'm not sitting. You know, if we don't know for another year,

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then freaking fine. You know,
Oh you're gonna wind up. You'll

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be an old man. I know
you don't want steam. I'm not.

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I mean, well, I think
it would be okay for Arizona to wind

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up in the Big twelve. That's
not my favor. That's not where I

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want you to be. I don't
want, you know, I don't want

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the road trips and the and the
teams they play to not be in the

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neighborhood. I get it, I
get it, and it doesn't affect you

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that way. But you just don't
want the teams to go on those room

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trips. Well, I just you
know, I don't want I don't want

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to see Arizona having to play West
Virginia every year. I mean, what

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the hell, who's West Virginia?
They mean nothing to me. It's a

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new rud had dug and stated,
maybe. No, I get it.

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I get no. But at least
you feel more relaxed. I'm more at

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ease about and I think people that
are just kind of tired of it.

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We are. I know, I
am, I know, I am.

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I that that, And that's one
thing I will say. I want this

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to get done so we can move
on. And they talking about somebody else

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starts to beat another dead horse.
Yeah, and stop talking about it.

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Yeah, you know, I get
it because I was listening to one of

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the podcasts about July one. A
lot of the realignment stuff happens. You

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know that was triggered back when ye
uh, Texas and Oklahoma left. Right

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now, Texas Oklahoma are still in
the Big twelve for another year, but

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you got four new teams coming into
the Big twelve this year, you know,

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by U Central Florida Houston, and
Central Florida Houston. There's one more

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cincin now those four teams tomorrow are
in the Big twelve and then Oklahoma and

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Texas leave after next season. Okay, So that's already started. Jacksonville State,

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Sam Houston are moving up from BCS
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FCS to FBS. They're and they
going to Conference USA. They're playing big

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boy football. Um, there's some
other you know. Did you know New

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Mexico State is going into conference you
would say, yeah, they're gonna have

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a conference. Liberty is going into
that conference. Um, I think Rice

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is going into in there. And
there's one more. So you know,

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there's a whole bunch of realignment that
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some more obviously next year when Oklahoma
and Texas go to the go to the

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sec USC and US ago to the
Big Ten and who else knows what the

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hell is going to happen between now
and that. Okay, so it's timing

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it will happen tonight unless there's a
shocker. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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the San Diego Union Tribune has come
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be writer, um um um.
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the conference today and as of now
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is saying to what San Diego State
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mean there? There may be some
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say, yeah, you are gone
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Yeah, Okay, let's take the
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to Judy. All right, Judy, we're gonna talk on to my favorite

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topics. Man, we're gonna talk
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of First Team here in Tucson.
Judy, how are you. I'm wonderful.

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How's everybody there? We're doing planning
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talk two at least you are you? Are you like a crazy like Jay

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here out in out in the golf
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We are in the morning and we
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We've been a busy summer and um, all I can say is we

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were in Pinetop playing a little tournament
on Monday and Tuesday of last week,

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so we picked a good time to
get out of town. But we're but

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we're back at Tucson now. So
we all, what does heaven look like?

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Because that had to be had had
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have to I have to admit it
was tough to come back to Tucson when

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we experienced eighty degree weather when it
was like one hundred and ten year So

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how does that happen? You take
a bunch of kids up there and they

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play well. First t Tucson,
Um, I think we're going on six

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years. We took over the Ricky
Rereck Junior Golf program. And the Ricky

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Rereck Junior Golf program is summer tournament
golf that's been around for over sixty five

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years. Ye. So so rick
Rereck who really started the Tucson Open here

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um and and ran it before the
kinkistadors took over. Um, he he

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was all he was mister Junior Golf. And so tournaments are Mondays and Tuesdays

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in the summer for all kids to
play. It's developmental. So we have

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kids that are tournament players, then
we have kids that are really you know,

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just learning tournament golf and it's just
all about developing relationships out there on

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the golf course for two days Monday
and Tuesday. So so in June and

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July we on Mondays and Tuesdays host
Ricky Rrett Junior Golf tournaments. And so

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we decided to take our show on
the road and we were lucky enough to

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have Dennis Palmer let us play up
at Pinetop Lakes, which is a great

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executive course in Pinetop. How cool
is this for the kids who probably don't

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get many opportunities like this, or
do they? It was amazing, It

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was, It was amazing. And
obviously you know transportation and you know guardians

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or parents getting off work to take
the kids up there. But we had

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some nice Pinky store members that loaned
their cabins out and things and put some

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kids up so they didn't have have
to, you know, pay a lot

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of money to get up there.
And so it was it's a little road

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trip is always nice. And some
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man, I remember Queens. I
don't remember Ricky Rare Golf doing that when

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I was a little kid, because
I'm sure I would remember that because you

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know, it was like, okay, we're gonna play a rio, We're

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gonna play Randolph's what was called Randolph's
South back in the day, as opposed

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to tell you huh, you know, right, yeah, that kind of

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stuff. But that's very cool to
be able to get get the kids up.

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Yeah, and then in the summer. Ricky Reck was really designed too

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to try to play the country clubs
because you can't really play them in in

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the golf seasons and try to play
in the summer. But you know this

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summer, both Oro Valley and Tusun
Country Club are closed, so we haven't

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been able to play there since they're
doing major renovations. Yeah, so how

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does this happen? Do you need
moneys coming in or is this through dues

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or how does this work? Oh, it's all about money. You know,

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we can't we can't do what we
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three nonprofit, just like any other
use development organization in town. Um.

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But we just have a lot of
moving parts from our first team programming to

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our competitive tournament golf that we run, to PGA Junior League to something called

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ping Interclub. We really are kind
of the one stop shop for junior golf

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and Tucson. And it's as you
said, your sponsors and whatnot, it's

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got I mean, it's got to
take a lot of manages. How many

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kids you know, are you how
many kids touch first tea? Right by

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that I mean they might just come
out and hit some balls once in a

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while, or they might actually play
in the tournaments na get some lessons.

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How many kids are involved? So
we have over two hundred kids that play

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our tournaments, and then we have
over nine hundred kids that are part of

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our First Tea programming. We'rerid about
ten locations now is green Grass locations with

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First Tea Programming. So in the
calendar year, you know, January one

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to December thirty first, you know, our numbers are close to a thousand

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kids that go through our programs.
Is that you know, is the number

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increasing? Because we've all heard you
know how you know, you know,

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the golf was losing kids, you
know who were playing, you know,

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in other sports as well. But
what's how the number has been? Are

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we getting kids back to playing golf? Oh, we definitely are. And

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the nice thing about First Tea Programming
is you still can be a part of

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other sports and be a part of
First Tea. You know, your only

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commitment you have to make to our
programs is coming once a week for a

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class. It's an hour and a
half to two hours, and then you're

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a member and you're part of our
programs and so so we encourage all of

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our kids to play other sports.
You know, we really want well rounded

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individuals and you know, work character
education as much as we are golf.

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Did COVID help because it was an
outdoor sport and maybe the kids needed to

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get out. COVID helped the whole
golf industry in a way. It almost

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hurt us because it's harder for us
to get golf tea times and on the

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golf course because still so many people
are playing golf. Yeah, so it's

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it's it's a it's a positive thing. But the nice thing is we we

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only shut our doors for maybe three
weeks during COVID and we really have been

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open and all through the pandemic.
And so that's what was really nice is

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we did increase our membership then because
we were kind of the only game in

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town. So give us a rundown
for instance of a typical week, you

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know at the first team. You
know you've got tournaments, you said on

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Monday and Tuesday. Part of the
kinds of things and kids do where can

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they do it? You know,
how do you how do you engage and

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you know, if you're a kid
that wants to learn the game and just

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become a part of this right our
new curriculum, which is all you know,

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we're a chapter of the First Team
National. So the First Team National

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is in Florida where PGA Tour headquarters
is located. And everything is age based.

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So we start with our five to
six year olds, which is called

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Target those programs we only have Target
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then we go ages seven to nine
for classes Ages ten to eleven, Ages

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twelve to thirteen, and ages fourteen
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Every every month, our schedule is
a little different and that's all on

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our website at tuson dot org.
But like this week in the summer,

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to give you an example of what
summer looks like. On Mondays and Tuesdays

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we have the Ricky Rick Junior Golf
so we don't have any First Team programming

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on those days because we're hosting the
tournament. Then Wednesday, Thursday and Friday

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we have camp. So we might
have a three hour camp in the morning

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from eight to eleven as an example
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do some things called course play where
you go out on the golf course and

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actually learn how to get around the
actual golf course and that's a two hour

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class, and then we do lessons
with a pro where we have lessons on

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the range and going down on the
golf course, and then we have a

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girl power class. Uh, we
kind of run it all and then every

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week is a little bit different because
we try to kind of mix it up

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a little bit, especially in the
summer. And it isn't it more also

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than not just golf, where it's
more about being kinder people. I think

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I remember know what I'm saying,
he's learning waiting. The part of the

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curriculum when we teach a class is
we are seamlessly integrating life skills in with

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the golf skills. Can I join
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We're teaching kids to plan for the
future. We talk a lot about diversity

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now and all along that. We're
teaching kids to manage emotions. You know,

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we talked to them about, hey, when you're out on the golf

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course, you might hit it in
the rough, but you can get it

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back in the fairway. And we
relate all those things to life because we

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all know that we make mistakes in
our life, but we can get back

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on track. So you might be
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you can get back in the fairway. I'm saying I needed that, but

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I could, I could. I could

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00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.920
come over and show them some great
club throwing techniques. It would be this

408
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:48.599
is what we don't welcome that here. This is what we don't. Don't

409
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.240
do this, don't do this.
But if you do, don't throw it

410
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.920
in the lake. You'll go get
throw. But the nice thing about what

411
00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.319
we do here, everything is in
groups. The kids get to make friends

412
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.079
and they have fun with their peers, you know, all along, and

413
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.920
we don't we don't judge. And
that's the nice thing about golf being an

414
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.200
individual sport. You're not you're not
waiting in line to be picked on a

415
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:11.440
team and you might be the last
to be picked. You know, when

416
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.799
you were in the school, you
know you'd be raising your hand to be

417
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.119
picked for a team and you might
be the last to be picked. That's

418
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:19.640
no fun. Yeah, that doesn't
happen here. Yeah, very cool.

419
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:22.920
So with with the popularity of the
of the women's game, how you know

420
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.640
how many girls are coming out and
becoming a part of so I know,

421
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.559
I've got a niece who went through
the program and she's got you know,

422
00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:34.839
she's golfing at Sunnyside Um and so
and so is there a lot of Are

423
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.079
you getting a good number of girls
coming out playing too? We have a

424
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.200
fair amount, but obviously we have
a lot more boys than we have girls.

425
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.640
But that's why we host these girl
Power classes and we really try to

426
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.839
do a lot of outreach and bringing
more kids, you know, to the

427
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.240
program. We've been up we've been
working with Kidko this summer with the Neighborhood

428
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.960
Center here, the Orio Neighborhood Center, and so we've had about sixty kid

429
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.559
kids coming twice a week to our
camps. And there's a lot of girls

430
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.519
in those programs, and so it's
really nice to be able to introduce them

431
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.079
to the game because otherwise, you
know, they would never even have the

432
00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:08.799
opportunity to know, be able to
put their hands on a golf club.

433
00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:12.240
And you know, and what's nice
about what we do is we provide everything.

434
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:15.079
You don't have to have any golf
clubs to come be a part of

435
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.359
our program. You must be in
heaven. I guess whatever word you want

436
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:22.319
to use. Given that now you
can deal with the little kids in the

437
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.279
I was just going to ask that, and the business guys will helped with

438
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.519
you guys rewarding. I mean,
just today, I'll give you an example

439
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:37.279
today at lunch, two of our
kids. We just had three kids that

440
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.480
went to an academy, a leadership
academy through the PGA to a superstore.

441
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.680
They went to Atlanta and they were
with forty eight other kids from other chapters

442
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.640
across the nation. And so they
met all these other kids that went to

443
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:53.480
a leadership academy through the PGA to
a superstore, and they qualified to go

444
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:59.240
to this national academy and they got
to visit the Arthur Blank Foundation. Arthur

445
00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.680
Blank is that owner of the Atlanta
Falcons that he owned the PGA Tour superstore.

446
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.920
He was the home depot guy.
These kids got to meet the head

447
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.720
muckety MUCKs with Mercedes Benz Stadium.
They went to a soccer game at Atlanta.

448
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:18.160
They learned they've met leadership with the
Atlanta Falcons football team. They did

449
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:26.279
all these team building um programs and
they basically spent a week in Atlanta learning

450
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.839
about leadership and learning from the communications
people with the Atlanta Falcons they got to

451
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:36.799
meet the mascot without the uniform on
the Atlanta falcons about mascot And so,

452
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.759
you know, what fun for us
to sit around a table today and talk

453
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.000
to these two kids that just got
back from Atlanta and hear about their experience

454
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:47.759
exactly. And then after all those
years of working with the grumpy grown ups,

455
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.720
you know, to be able to
do this, that's just got to

456
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.720
be a lot of fun, right, That's why I went with, Yeah,

457
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.519
Well it's it's it's so much fun
to see these kids grow and and

458
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.000
that's what's just so great about first
he is there's all these national opportunities for

459
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.759
these kids to become a part of. But our our newest thing that I

460
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:08.640
have to brag about is we had
some wonderful members that at the Gallery Golf

461
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.799
Club. They're great donors to us, and with their help, we've now

462
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:17.720
created a new college scholarship program.
Wow, okay, so we will We

463
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.839
will soon be naming a couple of
kids that'll be getting a new college scholarship

464
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.319
through his first T two soon to
help kids go to college. And and

465
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.119
we're going to really use that to
try to make sure we keep kids in

466
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.960
our program, you know, through
high school, you know, right before

467
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.359
they go to college. Do you
have any sense of how many of these

468
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.680
kids have no golfers in their lives? You know, a dad, you

469
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.440
know that that that they're just because
they're there, not because my dad made

470
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.039
me come, or my mom made
me come, or my dad's a golfer,

471
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.519
my mom's a golfer. Are any
of these kids coming here just because

472
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.480
they think they might like the sport? Yeah? A large I'll be honest,

473
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.920
a large percentage. We we kind
of have everybody, but a large

474
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:07.359
percentage of our kids, their parents
or grandparents don't even play golf. And

475
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.359
sometimes they find us because we're so
affordable. And then you know, others

476
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.160
come because they really have an interest, right, but because we are so

477
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.799
affordable and cheaper than most other sports. You know, we are something as

478
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.720
youth development that a lot of people
turn to, and we do a lot

479
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.759
of outreach with other youth development organizations
in town, you know, to help

480
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.160
them out, Like we're going to
have a meeting next week with team of

481
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:36.400
partnership to talk about getting them involved. Right. Um, Well, let

482
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.720
me ask you because because this is
how I said, let's talk to Judy.

483
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.079
You have something going on in July, right, the whole month or

484
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.559
something of registrations and whatever. Oh
yeah, well we've we we're constantly having

485
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.920
registrations. But yeah, so so
our July registration just opened up. So

486
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.440
we're taking all of our sign ups
for July, you know as we speak.

487
00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.720
Okay, so just another month of
a new new things to do.

488
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.799
Yeah. Every month we're basically making
a new schedule and send it out and

489
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:06.920
our class is still up. That's
the only thing I mean. And that's

490
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:12.000
the thing. If anybody listening has
any interest in trying to help kids,

491
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.359
that you do not need to be
a great golfer. We do. We

492
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.359
need more volunteer coaches because it's all
about the mentorship that these kids have with

493
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.039
their coaches, and the relationship that
they develop with these coaches is just as

494
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.079
valuable as the golf skills. So, Jay, you have a chance to

495
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.680
say, do not do this.
Yeah, you know, I do this.

496
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.279
I thought for a second, I
thought, oh that would be something

497
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.680
something I thought. But I'm still
learning how to play golf, and then

498
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.119
I've been doing it for fifty years. Well, let me let me ask

499
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:40.599
you, as he says this,
because you know, I'm a horrible to

500
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.559
golfer Jay is better than horrible.
But I am so wouldn't you wouldn't it

501
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.400
be cool if you had guys like
us or me with classes to teach us

502
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.039
how to play, just like a
group of stupids like us like me.

503
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:05.240
I'm not here, we have time. I thought that would big questions,

504
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.079
man, And so then I was
like, I just gotta go to an

505
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.480
individual to do it. Okay,
all right, dude, So again the

506
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.119
one honestly, but like with what
we do, I mean, I'd love

507
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:15.679
to have the two you come and
just talk about your radio show and tell

508
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.800
the kids about what you do.
And man, okay, let us know,

509
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.840
well, we'll come over. We'll
tag team and you know, we'll

510
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:24.000
try not to get into a fist
fight right in front of the kids,

511
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.719
and we see what we can do. It'll be funny, He'll be mean,

512
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.880
So we do here. Okay,
that sounds good. It sounds like

513
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.079
fun dude, it's and it's great. That's a great thing. Again,

514
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.639
you know somebody who grew up here. You know, I knew Ricky,

515
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.039
you know Ricky. Eric was like, as you said, they've been around

516
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:42.559
sixty seven years. I was,
you know, I was twelve years old,

517
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.519
and I might have played in one
or two tournaments, but I was

518
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.599
just busy, you know, taking
the eight bus downtown to Randolph and playing.

519
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.239
But um, you know, but
you know, I love the game,

520
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.480
and my son plays, and I've
got a grandson and we can't you

521
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.400
know, he's six months old.
So we're gonna try and get him on

522
00:34:57.400 --> 00:34:59.559
the golf course in the next three
or four months and we'll be ready to

523
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:04.320
go. Thank you, Judy,
Thank you, gunch Jude. You appreciate

524
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.920
it. He will keep up work
on that. That's very cool. Thank

525
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.280
you. Thank you. Always fun
with Judy talking to Judy. Yeah,

526
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.079
you know what, I'm just gonna
say this, and it you know,

527
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.760
it comes from you know, from
where I where I am. You know,

528
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.119
my son and I go golfing,
and we talked about all the time,

529
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.760
you know, through the summer.
We'll go golfing pretty much every weekend.

530
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.320
And it's a time that I get
with him that I don't get any

531
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.199
other time. And I know that
there there are dads who don't get that

532
00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.320
right very much. And it's very
cool. And now that now that he's

533
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.000
got a kid, we literally are
were like, okay, you know,

534
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.239
how old does he have to be
before we put a golf club in his

535
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:37.440
hand? You know, two years
old, three years old? When can

536
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.880
we get him on the golf course. I think my son had him played

537
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.440
his first round to golf when he
was four or five, you know,

538
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.679
took him out and he just just
hit the ball, and it's it's just

539
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.960
something that we're going to treasure and
that uh, you know, as a

540
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:52.800
as a family, we love doing
so it's very cool. And if you

541
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:57.639
if you're if you're, if you're
a golfer, encourage your kids to golf,

542
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.480
does you speak, I'm getting that. I'm leaning clean. Put my

543
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.880
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544
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ESPN layoffs. The names are still coming

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ja. We have about twelve minutes
left to Jakes would get the call if

594
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he give us a call. Love
things going on in the media business.

595
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:44.400
There's a massacre at ESPN to day. Not that it was a surprise,

596
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.079
because they said it was coming.
We just didn't know the names that were

597
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.360
coming game that the names that are
that are that are out of there.

598
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.079
The latest one that just came across
was the David Pollock, who one of

599
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:59.039
the Game Day guys out of here, a guy that I wasn't particularly fond

600
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:01.519
of anyways. He's those guys who
cold how did the SEC because that's where

601
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.199
he played. He could never I
didn't feel like he could ever get past

602
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.000
his he's biased towards the SEC.
But he was pretty good nonetheless. Um,

603
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.719
but he's gone. Susie Culver,
who's been with him for like twenty

604
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.920
seven years, is gone. They
let a bunch of other people go putting

605
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.760
the local at Ashley Brewer, who
had gone from Ka Gun over there.

606
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.440
She's only been with him a few
years, right, just maybe two.

607
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.679
And the funny thing, not the
funny thing, but the ironic thing is

608
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.440
she's getting married next week. You
know she's married, right, No,

609
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.800
Frank Kaminski, Well then forget it, man. Yeah, she's Mary.

610
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.840
And that's that's next week. So
yeah, and then um, uh Todd

611
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.800
McShay, Todd mcshelly right, which
when you think about that, Okay,

612
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:51.480
he and he and uh the other
guy, uh the hair guy, Yeah,

613
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.800
the hair guy. You know they
were the same guy, right,

614
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.679
Why on that one? I'm like, why you figure they flip the guy

615
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.679
because the guy's ready to go already
he's been there forever mcshay's and you were

616
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.840
a guy, younger guy, probably
cheaper guy. Jay Jalen rose that we

617
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.960
had heard that his show got canceled. Now he's gone. Um, Alfonso

618
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:14.840
ellis I very popular NBA guy,
Jeff Van Gundy, who's been a you

619
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.679
know, does a basketball broadcast,
he's gone. I mean, the list

620
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:22.239
is crazy. It goes to show, It goes to show. But we've

621
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.880
been in this business long enough to
know. And I tell this to Jason

622
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:28.199
and now and again. Um,
it's a tough business, right, It's

623
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.960
a tough business. It was a
tough business we were coming up because it

624
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:35.440
was always kind of laoffs trickling here
and there. But if you get paid

625
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.400
a lot of money, you're in
danger of a lot of things. Well

626
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.639
yeah, well see, and yeah, you made a good point in the

627
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.920
end. Why did they make so
much money? Right? I see it?

628
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.039
I mean, how do you how
do you keep and so if you

629
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.719
let David Pollit go, somebody else
gonna pay him what you're paying him.

630
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.400
Here, here's the thing, Stephen
A. Smith makes a bunch of five

631
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.480
million a year. They and then
then the guy who's coming in now with

632
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.400
the podcast. Now he was uh
oh that guy? Yeah, I know

633
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.599
you're thinking of the wrestling guy.
No, no, no, he's a

634
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.800
former punter. Yeah, you know, but he's been big with with w

635
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.320
w E and all that stuff.
Okay, I know you're talking. You

636
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.400
don't I'm talking about, don't you. I know, I don't know.

637
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:22.039
Someone's gonna text me and I just
had the name. But he's the one

638
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:23.760
that I was getting. He signed
a huge He's the one that with Rogers.

639
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:28.960
You know, he's does the Rogers
interviews making a ton of money.

640
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.800
Yeah, So how do you how
do you justify giving a boatload of money

641
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.880
to the one guy and then a
lot of people people doesn't make any sense

642
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:39.639
to me. But again, to
me in this business haven't been in a

643
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.440
long time anybody making more than a
million dollars is why, why would anybody

644
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:50.679
pay you that you're not saving anybody's
live really, honestly, are you What

645
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.360
are you doing? You're telling people
the store. That's how the market developed,

646
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:57.559
though, and that's what it's crushing. It happened, and that's right,

647
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.679
and now it's crushing there. They're
almost you feel there almost has to

648
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.400
be a reset, right, I
think I think that's exactly where they're going.

649
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.760
Jack at least, Okay, you're
gonna be You're gonna have a job

650
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.519
on ESPN, But you know what, you're gonna make three hundred thousand dollars.

651
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:13.400
You're not gonna make a million dollars
anymore. Well, your wife and

652
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.360
and myself suffered this thirteen years ago. We're working at the Citizens. They

653
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:20.719
came in and told I wasn't in
there. I was in La with the

654
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.719
team. They came in and told
us, well, we're gonna have a

655
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.639
job for like six months and then
we're gonna shut shut it down. And

656
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.960
I guess the guy who came in
some ganette big wig was able to afford

657
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.719
a yacht the next year. You
know, they saved money here but then

658
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.679
buy stuff over here. It doesn't
make any sense to me. It just

659
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.159
doesn't maybe I'm just not a good
guy with that, but you're you're under

660
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.599
you and you do want it,
and that's what people want to They go,

661
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:47.519
what the hell you had the money
right? The money's there, it's

662
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.199
just where are you putting it right? And now look at the Star?

663
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.800
Look at the Star now, yeah, everybody. People we know, people

664
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.000
we used to be colleagues with at
the Citizen, now at the Star and

665
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.440
they're gens jobs. Yeah, no, I I yeah, no, I

666
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:05.920
hear it. It's just yea you
you you wonder who's you know, who's

667
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.400
making the decisions, making the decision
right, what's what kind of what are

668
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.639
the criteria? And and and the
ones who suffer if that's the right word,

669
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.719
suffers not the right word. Are
the readers or the people who are

670
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:19.760
getting the news? Well, well, and that's there's that's what a whole

671
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.719
bunch of the reaction has been your
guys. Well, David Polson, I'm

672
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.079
never watching Game Day again. Well
I know you will, but you know

673
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:29.119
you're gonna say that now. Other
I just see when somebody's saying you got

674
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:30.760
rid of the wrong guy and get
rid of Desmond Howard. You know,

675
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.119
No, there's been a lot of
that. Right, It's like the NBA,

676
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.760
and I like Malika and a lot
of people. You gotta you gotta

677
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:44.159
keep these guys, but you keep
Perkins, you know, right, Andrew

678
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.400
Perkins? What the hell is that? Yeah? Right, I don't know

679
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:51.639
how it's happening. Yeah, I
mean, I'm I'm my Collifiden with his

680
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.239
job. You know, some of
these names that are being like go.

681
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.199
I think there are other people.
I think, look at you right right

682
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.000
right, and maybe they're on the
block too. Bence Carter today on the

683
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.760
NBA today, and he was there, but he's rumored to be gone.

684
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.280
Contract won't get renewed or something.
So yeah, hey give me the minimum

685
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:14.440
wage baby, seven hundred and fifty
thousand, and I'm gonna do so.

686
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:15.920
You know again, I mean,
what what is it? What is the

687
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.719
guy like Scott van Pelt me and
he's he's one of the guys hop guys.

688
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.320
What's he making? Should he be
making what he's making? Probably not,

689
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.880
but he's gonna keep. He's gonna
gonna say no. Let me put

690
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.559
this way. I am not a
fan of stephen A. I am not.

691
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.400
I just I just go when I'm
trying to serving and his show is

692
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.440
on I go right past it anymore
than the same as h as the dude

693
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.800
that's making what ten million bucks a
year on on Fox um rope, No,

694
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.639
no, no, it's not uh
no, um the loser he's skip

695
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:52.840
billions, Yeah, skip Bayles.
I hate that guy, you know.

696
00:45:53.880 --> 00:46:00.320
I mean, I don't watch Fox. It's pro sports programming at all until

697
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.360
unless there's a game off. Until
football, I'll watch a game, right,

698
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.639
Do not watch any of their talk
shows? Yeah? Yeah? And

699
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:10.639
then look at the NFL. They
got Gigman and the bucket who's the part

700
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:16.199
for tons of money? So there's
money. They're just rearranging the bricks truck.

701
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:21.760
Yeah. And here's another one somebody
about Dave David ESPN. College football

702
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.119
just got better. Yeah, you
can't please everybody. That's part of the

703
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:29.559
business. Some people like you,
some people though it is, but no,

704
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.559
it's not a good day to day. And this is the third round

705
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.440
of them doing this. And again, you know, we don't know these

706
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.280
people. We don't wish anything bad
on them. I mean there's some guys

707
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.599
that you know, I don't I
don't particularly like, but you know,

708
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:45.840
you won't laid off. I've been
laid off. It doesn't feel good.

709
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:49.280
No, No, The thing is
you're wondering, Okay, now what's my

710
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:52.360
next move? But I think I've
told you this, Jason a number of

711
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.199
times, and I've said this on
the show with the interns. If you're

712
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:59.119
not calling your own shot, you're
depending on somebody else to call it for

713
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.400
you. Man, that's a scary
ass thing. Yeah, it's a scary

714
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.159
ass thing. And that's not just
here, that's everywhere. You're working at

715
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.400
home depot and this they're not selling
up widgets. Well, sorry, Jason,

716
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:12.800
you gotta let you go because no
one's budding widgets. Yeah, yeah,

717
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.760
no, you know, I mean
I was in exactly that, right.

718
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.719
I was a company that was trying
to develop a solar right and right.

719
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.599
I went over there thinking they're just
about there, and you know,

720
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:24.440
I'm gonna be a big part of
it, and who everybody needs sold right,

721
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:28.599
and the science never made it right
and I got laid off. Yeah

722
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:32.519
yeah, And then you're excited,
you're giddy and boom yeah boom. It's

723
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.639
like Ashley. I mean, she's
just got there. She's very good,

724
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:38.960
she's very good. Stunned, right, I just got here. But also,

725
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.679
Jay, you made a lot of
money. It's hard to feel sorry

726
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.599
because they made a lot of money. And these people will some of them

727
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.920
will find find their way, find
fall on their feet. Someone will come,

728
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.880
yeah, getting them get They're good. Yeah, a lot of them,

729
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:53.559
in my opinion, are very good
at what they do. Is they

730
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.159
what are their jobs? Though?
No, that's the whole thing. That's

731
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.199
like the liberty of the world.
They have to kind of create their own

732
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:06.119
idea, like like here in Tucson, as as as newspaper people were getting

733
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:09.440
laid off, there were no other
jobs, and newspaper jobs too. This

734
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.639
is a bad market. Yeah,
that's say people went off to do various

735
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:15.639
things, you know, went off
to work at you know, doing You

736
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.599
know, my my wife got lucky. She got a great job doing doing

737
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.760
pr she you know, she said, working for a great company. But

738
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:23.840
I know a lot of a lot
of people. Although I will say Rick

739
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:27.519
Whiteley, our friends who got laid
off at the Star recently, I just

740
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:31.079
say he got hired at at the
UVA Journals in department at a professor of

741
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.760
practice. Nice so that, you
know, but not everybody lands like that,

742
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.039
right, I know, we you
and I both know a bunch of

743
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:42.239
people are still struggling to find a
job. Sure that pays them a livable

744
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.800
way. Know what it happened in
seventy A couple of times, me too,

745
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:46.480
a couple of times. Um,
you just kind of have to be

746
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:52.719
prepared to pivot, man, to
reinvent yourself a time or two. Because

747
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.360
because I'm getting to the you're near
the end of the road. What the

748
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.719
hell does that mean? Let me
finish my statement here. Let me finish

749
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.519
my statement here. You're closer to
the end of the road than I am.

750
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.960
But we're closer. We're closer to
the end of the road than in

751
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.199
the beginning of the road. Right, Oh yeah, let me finished.

752
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:15.159
Please, But you are near the
road because you don't come on, you're

753
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.320
sixty gonna be sixty four. You
I want to do this until I die.

754
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.159
I mean, if I lose this
time on Tuesday, I think I'm

755
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:23.760
gonna pass away on Thursday. Just
because you know, whatever I'm telling my

756
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:25.840
wife he said I'm near the end
of the road. He's gonna be very

757
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.800
upset with you. She'll say,
really, she's gonna be very like this,

758
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:36.800
very very upset with you. When
itould be really mad at you.

759
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.239
You said I'm near the end of
the road. You're gonna say, what

760
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.079
do you know that I don't.
Yeah, I see him bring food into

761
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:49.079
the studio. No, you can't
tell her that. See I win this

762
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:54.960
argument. What happens in the station
stays at the station too late. Now

763
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.599
you're gonna wrap me out. I'm
gonna wrap you up. You should see

764
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:07.760
what he brings into the studio.
What I bring, like a salad and

765
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:10.719
a nice tea. Have you ever
seen to bring us salad? Chicken breasts?

766
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:17.199
Chicken breasts? Maybe you know?
Maybe? Yeah? Yeah, I

767
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.199
win another one, oh guy.
Yeah. So it's a tough business.

768
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:24.599
People don't want to hear. But
we're making we're making fun, but it's

769
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.679
serious. And these people again some
I'm a fan of some of these.

770
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.920
I'm not a fan of others.
But well, look at the NBA study.

771
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.320
But I do feel bad and and
some of these clever guys that are

772
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:38.719
are fun and listen fun to watch
them that are gone. So um,

773
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.679
you know they'll find a lot of
them, will find them, will but

774
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.119
you know you figured, but for
a bunch of them, this was as

775
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.280
good as it's gonna get. You
know, you know, you look at

776
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.360
Susie Culver, she's got some years
left, but she can also retire.

777
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.000
Yeah. Well she well, she's
made a ton of money. They make

778
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:57.639
a ton of money over years and
years she said. I think she was,

779
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.920
you know, start helping people or
make in her life. We're helping

780
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.440
people because I think she said forty
years of the business, twenty seven at

781
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:07.360
at ESPN. She's fine. Oh
and by the way, Gabby, he

782
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.239
thinks she's cute, so you know
that's another I will say that publically.

783
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.239
Susie Culver is one of my favorites. You know, so he's not worried

784
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.639
about bringing in non salads, but
you're talking about what we're being cute.

785
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.039
I'll get it. All right,
let's take our break. We're gonna come

786
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.639
back breaking News with Jason, and
then Jake Fisher will join us for his

787
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.079
usual Friday commentary. We'll be right
back