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April nineteen, twenty twenty four. Allegedly,

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according to that thing we call a
calendar, this the o'celly effect,

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you listening to it, maybe live
If it's about seven minutes after eight pm

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Eastern in what we used to call
America. If it is that time on

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a friar's day and it happens to
be the nineteenth day of April twenty twenty

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four, you're here in us live. Otherwise it's a recording when I was

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a kid, at some point when
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was a teenager. Is it libraries
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libras an MP three? It's most
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are hearing us just at exactly that
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be part of the show three one
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three one nine five two seven five
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anything that's on your mind openly.
That's fine. And by we who do

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I mean, well, I've got
my co hosts, be Pete with me.

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He's at work again, but doing
it live via remote from an unknown,

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undisclosed location. They used to say, right, I hear some crunchy

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noises or something on somebody's phone.
I tried to add in captain trips.

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It's b Pete. I tried to
add in captain trips. Maybe I'll do

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that. But anyway, be Pete. What's on your mind this week?

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Sir? Oh, no, a
lot. We are here in an undisclosed

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location along the ninety five quarter or
somewhere along the East coast. Ah,

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that's a lot, a lot of
possible territory to cover their I ninety five

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runs all the way up and down. I used to love taking that from

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Jersey to Florida when we had to
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I ninety five runs all up and
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the way to New Hampshire, doesn't
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it does well. I'm worried about
it's this little twenty foot section in here.

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We got some operations going on at
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here, so we're gonna fit both
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But other than that, I mean, we're looking at great weather. It's

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also shad Festival weekend in the big
metropolis of Grifton. We got the Tams

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playing tomorrow night. Old beach music
group that is still hanging on. I

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can't but I think there's one original
member still alive. Who the hell is

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that? But what are they?
Like? One hit? Wonder a song?

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I don't remember, or am I
Shadley We Tams? I think there

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was the Tams, the Embers.
You know, they did songs like up

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on the Roof. They did songs
like under the Boardwalk. I can't remember

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what the TAM's biggest hit was.
I mean, I was never really a

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big, huge beach music fan,
but they did it. They did a

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version of under the Broadwalk Coast under
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music is big time, but yeah, under the Boardwalk, I mean,

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you know, it's those kind of
groups from back in the late sixties early

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seventies that toured up and down the
Carolina coast. I think these guys used

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to go from my Maryland down to
Georgia those areas, and they are it's

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a lot of the beach. North
Carolina, South Carolina were real big for

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beach music right well, and here's
still hanging on there. But you know

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those bands have have gone away because
everybody has died. Well, that happens

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after a while when you've been around
for sixty seventy years, and you know

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it's just going to happen. And
indeed, you know, from the sixties.

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Now, you could easily be a
group if you started in the sixties.

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You know. I think about it
all the time because my favorite band

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of all time is Black Sabbath,
and they started in the late sixties.

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And now you've got to remember,
now that's sixty years ago, you know,

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Yeah, I mean nineteen sixties.
Most of those guys were, you

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know, twenty years old when they
started. So how old is Ozzie now?

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Yeah, I mean he's got to
be what eighty something? His birthday

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was in December? I forget now
I think he's eighty two. Is he

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eighty two? I don't know.
Maybe somebody will look it up, but

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I mean an old guy, you
know, but you don't think of him

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that way. You still think of
him as when when you were a kid,

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you know, and Ozzie was like
in his thirties and all washed up

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already, right, he was already
like in his mid thirties, and they

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were saying his career was over when
Sabbath, you know, when it really

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hits you. He's seventy five.
He's only seventy five. Seventy five,

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Yeah, just just looks it up. Born December third, nineteen forty eight.

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Wow, okay, two years older
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Okay, I was I was gonna
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I didn't think he was. I
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he was in his eighties yet.
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the eighties. Yeah, I'm thinking
somebody in that band is in the eighties.

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Maybe Tony Iomi is. And that's
the voice of Captain Trips, by

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the way, just to get and
order Trips. I got callers that were

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on the phone like immediately when eight
o'clock came around, so I want to

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get to them quick. But V
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in North Carolina, and if we
have time later maybe V Pete, I

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want to cover something that I don't
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local to you. There was a
couple apparently in North Carolina who were running

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around doing the jet set lifestyle,
and apparently some one of these late night

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talk shows focused on them this week. But from twenty twenty one, they

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were apparently doing really well, building
a whole bunch of dead people through Medicare

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and really running a whole health services
thing. There lots of billing, their

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whole jet set lifestyle paid for by
names of the dead off of the Medicare

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list, and it was right there
in North Carolina. And I didn't know

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anything about him until this week,
and I'm thinking to myself, that's something

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we should have covered on the show. You know, Well, I've not

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heard anything about that. I mean, usually we have the odd connection,

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like you know, the guy that
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a store or something like that.
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a North Carolina connection. But I've
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Now that's a new one on me. Yeah, I mean it's pretty

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extensive. I mean, they were
the type of people on you know,

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social media, going look at us
in our private jet, drinking our champagne

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because we're so successful. And it
turns out that their success came from Yeah,

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like I said, mainly hundreds of
millions of dollars. It seems like

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they might have gotten even over the
course of time, billing dead people for

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you know, medical procedures and stuff
and so you know, doctor's visits for

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the dead very profitable apparently in twenty
twenty one. So yeah, well maybe

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you think about it though. As
screwed up as medicare is, and how

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long it takes them to catch somebody
doing something like that, I'm surprised.

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I'll have to look that one up
when I get home and get into the

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bottom of it. But usually if
there's a big story out there, we

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can usually find a North Carolina connection
to the to the crazy US and the

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evil I mean, even go back
to you know JFK. We had the

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mysterious phone call from from Oswald to
a guy outside of Rolliby. So right,

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well, there's always an NC connection
in there somewhere. I find NC

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and NJ make interesting connections, even
a New Jersey connection to the JFK assassination.

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If you take a look at one
of the criminals that was arrested in

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the immediate aftermath, the guy has
a whole thing in Jersey going on,

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you know, the organized criminal element
and interesting guy, right. I forget

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which one it was, but it
was one of the guys they nabbed coming

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out of the school book depository.
Was a was add some gangster connections in

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Jersey anyway, There's always something like
that happening, but and I always keep

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track of it. But I was
surprised that we didn't cover that story when

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it broke in twenty twenty one.
What's always amazing to me is that when

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people think of medicare fraud or you
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all that, they almost always still
go back to the idea of the

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welfare queen, you know, the
single person who's got you know, a

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great living being made off of the
system. But the truth is it's these

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predatory companies that make massive you know, billing things, or they're turning around

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and collecting food stamps where they shouldn't
or something. The massive points of collection

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are usually done by some corporate entity
you know, that has a handful of

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people behind it, and that's where
the really big money goes, you know,

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I mean even if one person is
living well off the system. Yeah,

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well that's something we see a lot
of here because we have there's there

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is a lot of health industry in
North Carolina from you know, the major

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hospitals, and they're fighting to buy
up the small ones and then shut them

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down and force people to different hospitals, making people having to drive an hour

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hour and a half, you know, close down the little local clinic,

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make them drive into greenvill or make
them drive into Raleigh. Right, It's

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been a constant thing here. But
we have a lot of a lot of

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these practitioners that are on the fringe, like medical supply places. You know,

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they're the ones that advertise, oh, if you're getting Medicare Part B,

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then you qualify for this knee brace
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to help you do something. And
we have a lot of that going on

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in this state. These medical product
companies, these little private firms, they

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find a way to build Medicare or
Medicaid and they know that the you know,

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the fraud rate is very high,
so they play the odds, They

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roll the dice and figure, okay, we're going to do this billing and

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we're going to get as much as
we can afford to catch us and hopefully

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when we get win that they're on
us, we can get out of town

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and go do something else, and
we might go up to Virginia or down

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to South Carolina and start up business. Again. We see that happen a

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lot, indeed, so, but
then again, we've had hospitals to get

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called on the you know, major
hospitals getting nailed for medicare fraud where they're

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over billing for patient services and things
like that. So it's a big business

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here in North Carolina. Absolutely look
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Our callers have apparently hung up.
I guess I took too long to get

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to them on the phone, but
I do have Captain Trips on Skype,

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so I'm gonna let get to him
next callers rejoin us, because I was

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about to go to you and you
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minutes. I mean we've only been
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that, But anyway, three one
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That's the number to call in and
join us with anything that's on your

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mind. We're going to go to
after ten o'clock tonight, although I might

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lose be Pete somewhere in between there
anyway, So Captain Trips, what is

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on your mind this week? Open
table, open forum? Nobody else has

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spoken outside of me and Bpete.
Uh so, wide open field for you.

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Well, I'll start off with the
one of the one of the big

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stories today actually has a Florida connection. It's my neighborhood. The goofball that

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let himself on fire right outside of
the courthouse where Trump is on trial is

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from Saint Augustine, Florida, which
happens to be where I am sitting right

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now. Are you subscribed to his
Wait a minute, are you subscribed to

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his sub stack? I you know
what I saw the manifesto. I did

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get it. I don't think they
pulled it down yet. And the interesting

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thing about it, and now,
the guy isn't he think he styled himself

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as an ancom But he wasn't.
He was. He was calling out both

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Trump and Biden. I'm not saying
the guy was sane. I'm just saying

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that it didn't sound like like a
Trump arrangement syndrome or a a Biden,

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you know, an ardent anti Biden
person. It sounds like he was calling

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out the whole damn thing. So
well, I'm gonna put yeah in the

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live chat at ochelly dot com just
for the record, since you bring it

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up. It just so happens that
jay A Still and I were trading emails

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and this is one of the things
that came up. Is this guy who

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literally he's got something called the Ponzi
Papers on substack. He's done a lot

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of interesting conspiracy research actually, and
yeah, yeah, and and here we

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go. Well, no, I
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because his latest entry is literally,
guess what it says, I have set

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myself on fire outside the Trump trial. So he did a substack post I'm

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assuming before he did light himself up. I didn't see the Yes, yeah,

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I didn't see the video or anything. But are we talking like literally

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like the monk from the Vietnam War
era lighting himself up or what supposedly?

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Now? I wouldn't. I can't. I'm not into the the to the

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Gore porn. So I didn't watch
any of the live shots. I saw

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a few of the stills where you
could see him sitting there and you can

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clearly make out a you know,
a figure that was on fire apparently mean

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because he was right on the street
in New York City. He wasn't on

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fire very long. It sounds like
they someone got put out within thirty I

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think it was like thirty to sixty
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I don't know if that part of
it was planned. I didn't get that

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far into the story. And as
supposedly, at least the last thing I

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heard late to Saton that the guy
was still alive. God too. But

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interesting. Interesting is day we still
have fireworks going off all across the Middle

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East. Yeah, even when they're
not human fireworks. Yes, right outside

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of the human fireworks, other fireworks
happening right right, right right, And

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you know, it seems like the
the you know, I don't even know

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what the hell of callities anymore.
The attack from Israel on Iran today seemed

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to be quite similar to Iran's attack
on Israel four days ago. Apparently it

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targeted this area where Iran is suspected
of having nuclear facilities, but it didn't

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target the facilities themselves. And we
destroyed some old old military equipment as if

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to say, hah, we know
where you have this stuff. So you

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know, if this is just a
tit for tat thing, it's just it's

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it's it's still it's it's still too
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margin of error is far too small
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saying. And here the stuff that
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his sub stack, you know,
the guy who let himself on fire,

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which I'm almost surprised to him taking
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high traffic right now. He's a
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of the Trump trial. Here's the
funny part. I skimmed through his post

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about this, and I still have
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it, Like we know why the
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did it to protest the Vietnam War. But I'm not sure what he

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was protesting here except the system in
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don't understand the selection of I have
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it was exactly what you said he
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system, you know, stating that
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of a fascist takeover, not from
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system itself. That was the take
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picked that, I don't I don't
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just guess it's because of the publicity, because you know, obviously the news

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media was focused on that particular location
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today, Right, that would be
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was what the choice of location was. Yeah, but here's a guy.

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things I would say, and things
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who have stuck with me for more
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of a kleptocracy, the fact that
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multiple levels and layers coming from all
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slip there was. My next part
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and George H. W. Bush
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things have gone, how the institutions
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crypto problems. He states that the
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not sure why. He doesn't explain
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here in his declaration about setting himself
on fire. Okay, and still I

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don't understand why the selection of the
Trump trial was the best place for him

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to do it. I mean,
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would be in Washington, d C. But like you said, he's from

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Florida somehow, and he goes to
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DC's on the way. Save gas, more gas for you to let

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yourself up with. I mean,
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with that is was it just he? And again I'm speculating. I would

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never self emilate, So I don't
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don't have Okay, you and I
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wait, you and I could speculate
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you know, Craigslist hooker is out
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her this time. We don't know, is my point. We have no

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clue, Like, there is no
indicator here. I mean, at one

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point he says, AI is killing
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I'm just flipping through this fraudulent democracy. I mean, what about the

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tax man? How about that we're
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And oh, by the way,
the banks are failing because and crypto is

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a big game. I mean,
there's all sorts of stuff happening in this

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manifesto for a guy who lights himself
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Trump saying that this is part of
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to persecute Trump? Or is he
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almost seems like he's going to go
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show and what's you know that there's
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this is, you know, nothing
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follow. And he and he begins
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the financials, and I mean,
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meanwhile, we do have some callers
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anything you want to say before we
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did you even know about the guy
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heard about that today. My only
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if you want to go out of
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one of the most painful ways to
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understand. He could have stuck his
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put a gun to his head,
he could have run a hose from the

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exhaust of his car. But to
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may not kill you being a burn
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the last news break that I heard. You know, burn patients go through

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a lot, and it's one of
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just that's the part that I can't
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out, you know, and there's
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successful. This guy's got a long
road a hoe. I worked in a

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burn unit down in San Antonio when
I was in the army, right and

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let me tell you now, those
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somebody for third degree birds. Yeah, that's the part I don't get.

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do it? Well, my curiosity
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survived. And by the way,
this is one of the few near death

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attempt on someone's life that has never
been you know, I've never been set

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on fire to be killed. I've
been set on fire accidentally but never,

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you know, suffered severe burns.
I had a stepfather who had something like

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eighty percent of his body covered in
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to the point where his skin was
dripping off him. And I know what

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he went through when a motorcycle.
He was on one of those Kawasaki bikes

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where the gas tank slipped and exploded
during a collision, and he was burnt

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pretty severely. But you know,
so I understand what you're saying, he

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went through the skin grafting all that. But to me, I don't know.

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truly immolate yourself, well, the
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early. It's definitely, you know, it's a horrible thing to survive,

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but if your goal is death,
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of other methodologies if you are fully
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want to get to the first caller
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to say. Maybe they want to
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maybe something else. And we've got
two on the line, so let's get

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to Let's see what is the area
code here? Unidentified caller. No name

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comes up on the Sometimes names come
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a three to five to two area
code. No name. So who are

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you and what do you want to
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Juck Chris here? How you doing, sir? Hey Chris? How are

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you doing? Chris from Florida?
Are you anywhere near this guy's neighborhood in

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Florida that set himself on fire?
By chance? I recall reading about it.

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Where exactly did it take place?
Again? Well, it took place

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in New York, but I believe
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Augustine, Well that's about an hour
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okay, well not not your neighborhood
then, but uh anyway, did you

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read anything about it or do you
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Azarella? Azarella? I'm sorry.
I was just given the name Max as

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a rell O as e Z A
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a guy who does a mass shooting. I'm not going to read his name

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out, but a guy who set
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I think you'reon I mentioned Max Azarello
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L O. Anyway, he claims
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and you know he did. He
put it to this thing on his the

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Ponzi papers on substack, which I
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you want to go look at it
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and I guarantee he's gonna need some
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Uh, yeah, but this guy
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substack. I am the guy who
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it's got a lot of traffic today. Anyway, your general thoughts on well,

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let's let's let's let Chris get his
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questions. Chris, your thoughts in
general uninterrupted. You know, I'd briefly

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read, you know, the article
on this individual. You know, he

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was obviously protesting Biden and Trump conveniently, you know, you know, to

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me, it's just just kind of
this range of one of these individuals that's

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just seeking there in some morbid type
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you know what I mean, Like
he clearly didn't do it, do

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enough to get the job done.
You know, he's still living to tell

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the tale, you know. So
he's getting all he's getting his five seconds.

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you know that you don't you know
what I'm saying, no self gratification from

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you know, just making the headlines. It's not efferent than some of these,

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you know, the suck up mass
shooters that we've had in the past,

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you know where they go off on
the killing spray and they're only doing

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it for notoriety. Yeah, but
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and to me, that's what I
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me, that's what that's what this
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I could be wrong. Yeah,
but usually there's well just real quick,

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Chris, the question for you real
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Tripp says a question. You know, to me, usually if a guy

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does something like this and at least
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uh, you know, he's not
hurting other people directly. Uh. He

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even says something here on you know
a look, I apologize to the first

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responders and others who could possibly be
affected by this. I don't intend to

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affect you, but probably will and
hopefully you won't see too horrible a thing

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when I light myself up. Kind
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sub stack but anyway, which is
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I don't know what that means.
Uh anyhow, it's uh, it's weird.

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Just like he wants to be the
most famous substack guy? Does he want

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to be a podcast guest? Like, Hey, I want to get on

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whatever podcast. I mean, I'm
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can. Why did you light yourself
on fire? You know? If I

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can, I don't know, maybe
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or others will walk away from it
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Well I was going to say,
that's the question I had. How to

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setting yourself on fire? Connect to
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was he not getting the people to
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this was the only way that he
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put together. My question was to
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but they did he give a reason
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fire? Is that? Is that
the quickest way that he could have gotten

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attention to this? Or what?
Because you're right if I had him on

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that first question asked why did you
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look can I pouse a question real
quick? Yeah? Content, let

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me just answer that. Let me
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go ahead. Context is real simple, though, on this VPTE substack has

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become oversaturated. It was a very
popular, rarefied thing for a minute,

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and then everybody and their mother got
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ago, when there was only a

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couple of hundred podcasts, it was
easier to get bigger headline guests because they

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didn't have thousands upon thousands of people
asking them for interviews. I mean,

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if you've farted on cameras somewhere,
you probably got one hundred requests to be

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a podcast guest. But nowadays it's
hard. So it's hard to get attention

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on substack. But I mean you
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readers, although it is extremely competit. So Chris, you had something go

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ahead. Yeah, I'm going a
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was trying to make. I mean, if I pour a couple of inces

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of lighter fluid on myself and let
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burn to No? No? But
if I pour a gallon of gasoline on

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myself, do I and light myself
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that? Most likely? Yes?
You know I expected at least race in

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you know. I mean, you
know, some people are none of us

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know. I don't think do any
of us know the actual details? And

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you know how much of the night
or field to appoint himself. Look,

408
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.640
was it an actual attempt to really
kill himself? Or was he just an

409
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:47.480
attention seeking horror? Ye know?
And you know just couldn't Unfortunately, what

410
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:52.599
attractive enough to start it on?
Only hands to germinate whatever funds that he

411
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:53.880
needs? No, no problem,
but I get it. But here's the

412
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.160
thing about that is that you know, and and Captain Tripps could speak to

413
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:03.640
this. I want to turn it
over to him next. Idiots do things

414
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.680
like this sometimes too, and they
might be you know, fairly intelligent otherwise,

415
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.960
but when it comes to self destruction, they're not, you know,

416
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:15.799
well informed. I used to see
teenagers because of various things I was involved

417
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:21.799
in. Uh, teenagers and young
adults that somehow thought swallowing a bottle of

418
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.079
you know, something like Thailand all
would kill them. Not instantly, you

419
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.559
know. I mean, if you
want to destroy your liver slowly, you

420
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.599
can use that, but to have
an instantaneous, you know, overdose.

421
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.079
I used to see teenagers and like
I said again, young adults who would

422
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.480
swallow like oh, they swallowed fifty
tailanolls. I was like, well,

423
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.720
outside of vomiting up the crab persons, I've actually tried to commit you know,

424
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.279
when I was younger. I unfortunately
it is one of these individuals that

425
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.880
you know, I was going through
it. I have REP spurred in my

426
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.240
life, and I you know,
I can go into further details if you'd

427
00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.519
like, but you know, no, no need, you don't. You

428
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.720
know. Eighty years old, i'd
swallowed, you know, I figured I

429
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.759
would get the job done. You
know, I can't even tell you the

430
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.200
name of the medication, but I
was put on an anti depressant, right,

431
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:17.000
I'd taken the whole, the whole
caseload, helping to you know,

432
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.960
in my existence at that point in
time, right, you know what I

433
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.640
mean, Right, But i'd luckily, i'd you know, I came to

434
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.480
my senses and said, you know, screw this, it's it's not worth

435
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.720
it after especially to start, after
the hallucination started taking place, you know,

436
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.480
right, Well, but a twelve
year old who doesn't have a lot

437
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.599
of experience with medication, I'm assuming
you didn't have a ton of experience with

438
00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:45.759
different medications at that point. A
twelve year old who is not really chemically

439
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.079
familiar. Yeah, maybe you thought
that would work, and realistically that's not

440
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:53.319
the way to go. And that's
the other thing. But this is a

441
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.359
full grown person. So I'm saying
idiot because a twelve year old might not

442
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.119
take the time to go, well, let me figure effective method here,

443
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.960
But a grown person, if you
want to do serious damage or not,

444
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.400
you're going to want to know your
methodology. Look, I made I made

445
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.519
an attempt like this at one point. I'm not going to say when,

446
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.359
but you know, I thought fourteen
thousand milligrams of an opiate would be enough

447
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:22.119
to put me out. It was
not, But fourteen thousand milligrams. I

448
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.119
don't know why. I think that
was the most I could bunch up,

449
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.920
and I thought it would be sufficient
and it wasn't. But that's not the

450
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.039
same thing as like I said,
i'ven't seen kids swallow tail and all and

451
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.839
end up in the emergency room.
Now. Yeah, just a note over

452
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:44.960
in Europe when I was over there, overdosing on paracetamol, which is there,

453
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.680
which is the name that Todland Hall
has. Over in Europe, it's

454
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:53.880
still quite common people adults will still
take a whole bottle and eventually, you

455
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:59.480
know, it destroys your deliver and
it shuts down your kidneys and that's how

456
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:00.640
they go out. And I didn't
know that until I got over there.

457
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.759
I was talking with my girlfriend and
there was an article in one of the

458
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.680
papers I was reading about somebody who
had done this. She said, yeah,

459
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.319
that she said, the two main
ways of suicide over here is an

460
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.759
overdose of paracetamol or step in front
of a train. Well, step in

461
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.640
front of a train seems like a
higher level of commitment. Captain trips real

462
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.440
fast before we go to the next
caller, though, your commentary about this

463
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:31.039
idea, please, and what I'm
saying, good, Okay, So first

464
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.759
thing, I'll make a comment on
the last thing. If I was forced

465
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.160
to pick one of those two,
I would throw myself in front of the

466
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.000
train, because liver failure is not
something I would want to die. Ask.

467
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.279
But I'm looking through this manifesto again, and I mean, basically,

468
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.960
he said, this is an extreme
active protest to draw attention to an urgent,

469
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.079
important discovery. We are victims of
a totalitarian con and our own government,

470
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.680
along with many of their allies,
is about to hit us with apocalyptic

471
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.880
fascist world coup. I mean,
I don't think the guy was trying to

472
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:08.680
kill himself. I don't don't take
him for being sane, But I mean,

473
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.680
if you can take what he wrote
as what he really believes, he

474
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:19.240
claims that he was truly trying to
draw attention to it, you know,

475
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.079
and just you know, scrolling through
some of the stuff that he has written

476
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.160
here, I don't know that I
necessarily disagree with him. Yeah, you

477
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:29.759
know, when you when you tie
that, especially when you tie some of

478
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.079
that into and I don't know if
we've talked about this on the show or

479
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:39.880
not, that the great taking by
that guy David Rogers Web who is kind

480
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:47.119
of saying some similar things, more
on the financial side. So I mean,

481
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.640
like again, I'm not claiming the
guy sane. I'm just saying that,

482
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.359
you know, he he he seems
to he. You know, this

483
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.440
is what he believes, and he
says because these words are true, this

484
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.000
is an act. I'm gonna I'm
gonna read through this again. I okay

485
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.640
quickly, Yeah, no, I
get it, go go through it again.

486
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.320
But yeah, the point does seem
to be to get attention, not

487
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:10.320
to die, because if he was
serious about death, he would have done

488
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.119
it another way. Okay, fair
enough, But you know, when you

489
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:19.480
go lighten yourself on fire, you
are risking death. I mean, you

490
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.039
know, That's what I don't get. That's the part I don't get.

491
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.400
I mean, You've got people like
Carol Roff and others who have been riding

492
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.599
about this now for the past couple
of years. I'm based on the World

493
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.159
Economic form and stuff coming out of
there, and and things that have been

494
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.039
said by government leaders about how yeah, you're gonna owe nothing and be happy,

495
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.559
you know, But to set yourself
on fire. It seems to me,

496
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.840
if you want to draw attention to
something, you want to be there

497
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:50.599
afterwards to be able to answer questions
that people are gonna have. But when

498
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:54.960
you do something like that, you
know, you just increase the chances and

499
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.559
you're not gonna be around. Well
fair enough, but I mean, yeah,

500
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.440
yeah, and unless unless he's that
committed to what he's saying that he

501
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.960
was willing to risk it. You
know, I'm looking at this and I

502
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.920
this, I definitely can't take an
issue with this. I'm really quickly funneling

503
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:15.960
trillions of dollars and stolen cast through
stock market, created the lots of start

504
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.480
market anomally in history. Stock stock
chart signature of Ponzi scheme is a massive

505
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.960
increase blah blah blah. And this
is what. In order to explain this

506
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.159
massive anomenaly, our criminal government unleashed
COVID on the world and told us that

507
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:35.079
these were stay at home stocks.
Right, No, yeah, not every

508
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:39.239
yeah you're saying, yeah, so
hang on, not Everything he's saying is

509
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.400
insane, is what the point is, right, Right, So there you

510
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.559
go. I'm gonna go now to
I'm sure somebody's gonna have something to say

511
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.239
about this here that I bring on
the line next. And by the way,

512
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:53.199
if you get on the line and
I put you on hold. You

513
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:58.039
can hang on. I'll come back
around to you as time allows. And

514
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.079
we got plenty of time right now. So three one nine, five,

515
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.159
two seven five zero one six you
can be part of this conversation. Didn't

516
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.920
expect to go here, but uh, definitely was on my mind, the

517
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.920
guy who set himself on fire.
So at least nothing happened in the news

518
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.079
this week. It wasn't a nothing
nothing news week. We had trial selection

519
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.360
connected to this. We had,
you know, a jury selection excuse me

520
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.480
for the trial, and a few
other things have gone down, you know,

521
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:29.039
in the courts and elsewhere in the
year of the lawsuit. So you

522
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:32.960
know, the theme is continuing.
And I guess this is a sidebar issue,

523
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.800
if you will, although it might
be a hot take. So let's

524
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:45.800
get our next hot take from Jimmy
James JJ. Can you hear me?

525
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.360
Yes? Coming on up, You're
coming in just fine. So do you

526
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.400
have anything you want to say about
the guy who set himself on fire outside

527
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:58.440
of the Trump trial or do you
want to change the topic. It's up

528
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:07.840
to you. Uh, I don't
know anything about the situation. Doesn't surprise

529
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:12.119
me. So you hadn't heard you
hadn't heard about this guy setting himself on

530
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:17.639
fire in Manhattan. No, I
heard the guy saw himself on fire a

531
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.320
couple of months ago. Yeah,
that was another incident, but this was

532
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:29.760
like today, So okay. Uh. He wrote his piece on the nineteenth,

533
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.440
so I'm thinking he wrote his piece
and then went to go do this,

534
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.800
you know, like like Trip said, he's from Florida. So anyway,

535
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.239
go ahead. It's open open for
you to comment on whatever you want.

536
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:46.079
J Jay, whoa what what do
you sick to that photo? That's

537
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:51.800
sick. It's a little weird at
New York City photo. Yeah, I

538
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:53.480
was trying to figure out the whole
point of that. Go go ahead and

539
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:58.679
explain it because you put a photo
in the chat recently that may or may

540
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.800
not have some interesting people in it. It's a go ahead and explain it.

541
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:09.719
Well. It was in an article
that I found on the Fox News

542
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:17.519
website. It was discussing diner Wingo
and they were diners, which were popular

543
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:23.960
in the nineteen thirties through seventies,
had a unusual weird way of speaking.

544
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:30.119
That's the whole thing is about the
article. And then I noticed that they

545
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:36.159
had a picture It said diner New
York City nineteen fifties. I thought,

546
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.480
well, you never know who you
might see in a diner in New York

547
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.239
City in the nineteen fifties, right, and the fellar at the end I'm

548
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.960
looking at, Well, I don't
know it's either Lee already house Walter or

549
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.559
one of the stop Begators. Well, what year are we talking about in

550
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.119
that article? As far as because
let's put it in context. Is it

551
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:04.760
like late fifties, as in fifty
nine, like around the time that he

552
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:12.000
should have been going to Russia.
I'm thinking that it has to be it

553
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.519
would have If it's fifty nine,
it would have to be. I mean

554
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.360
in the fifties, as the thing
says, New York City dying in nineteen

555
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:23.840
fifties. If it was Oswald,
it would have to be fifty nine.

556
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:30.000
And I know it's the pictures mark
four twenty four, so I would assume

557
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:39.800
for twenty four fifty nine. Well, I would you think that like him

558
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:45.559
or not? Tell me that's not
a doppelgager. Well, it's an interesting

559
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:47.719
photo. I'm taking a look at
it as we speak, and you know

560
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.639
what, I'll repost it in the
chat room. But Oswald, I don't

561
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.400
ever see Oswald as looking all that
unique, So it wouldn't be a crazy

562
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:02.599
thing for him to show up,
I think, you know, or a

563
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:06.119
guy who looks like him to show
up, I should say, in any

564
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.880
photograph generally. I mean, he
wasn't all that remarkable looking in my mind.

565
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.239
I mean, he becomes a remarkable
looking character because of his actions and

566
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.679
all that. But again, you'd
be talking about a guy who is now

567
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:24.840
if it's fifty nine, Let's say
you're talking about a guyho's twenty years old,

568
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:34.440
and again he should either be in
the Marines or in Russia or correctly

569
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.559
Belarus, Belarius, whatever, he
should be there. He should be in

570
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:44.559
Minsk or in the Marines, or
if not that, then it's his time

571
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.760
just previous to that, where you
know, he's still like now, we're

572
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:58.199
talking about him in high school age, you know, yeah, just seeing

573
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.320
him and I'm not weird. Another
weird things to all the way to the

574
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:07.760
left, there's a guy that looks
just like a guy from the Garrison Rope.

575
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:15.400
Yeah, which one though, the
guy standing up looking at the camera,

576
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.519
he looks just like the guy that
sits down in the clay Shaw picture.

577
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.559
Okay, are you talking about the
lawyer that sits next to Shaw on

578
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.960
one of the famous photos. That
guy, No, there's no lawyer.

579
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:37.079
That's they're all drinking and getting ready
to molestic kid. It looks like,

580
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.159
oh, you're talking about the thing
where he's in a wig and all that.

581
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:53.960
Well everyone's I thought that that guy
was David Ferry, But what's his

582
00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:00.880
name? The guy that's pro Warren
report saysn't. No, no, no,

583
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:07.519
it's not David Ferry. That's fine, I guess, but that's Charle.

584
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.039
What's he doing with that kid?
What are they all up to?

585
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.039
Then he could have talked to me. Yeah, I don't know what to

586
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.119
make. You know, it gets
to be a muddy, strange area.

587
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.760
And people have played this game in
JFK assassination photographics, Uh, you know

588
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.360
stuff for years and years. I'm
not saying that you are, But what

589
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.119
I am saying is that we tend
to see things and see people in places

590
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.639
sometimes and it's a lot of interpretation. I'm not saying you're wrong, but

591
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:43.320
it's weird. And why why was
is that everyone on that road to me

592
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.119
looks familiar, like someone put this
thing here. I could swear the guy

593
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:53.679
to the left of Oswalds Don Adams
FBI. Okay, that that gets even

594
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.519
stranger because you're talking about the guy
who from the FBI who wrote a book

595
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:01.199
a couple of years ago, only
maybe what ten years ago or something?

596
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:06.559
Right that Don Adams? Right,
Yeah, I mean, now you're getting

597
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.119
real strange. You know. That'd
be like, here's Harold Weisberg and two

598
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:14.559
guys from the Mob, you know, sitting down at a at a soda

599
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.480
fountain. You know it would be, Or here's here's the three of them

600
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.280
walking out of Macy's together. I'd
be like, what the hell is going

601
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.960
on here? You know? And
it's not a picture or a story about

602
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.800
them that it's connected to. And
I just I'm having trouble reposting your picture,

603
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.159
by the way in the chat.
But I did just post a picture

604
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.599
of Cookie Opuss because that came up
on Aaron Show last week. I had

605
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.000
that ready. But anyway, COOKI
o Puss was a carvel tree that I

606
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:46.000
find funny. But anyways, yeah, I can't see him to repost that

607
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.880
picture even it's a weird picture,
but we'll try and include it. Maybe

608
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:59.880
you can repost it in the chat. I post it's just so weird.

609
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:05.480
Gotcha. Also, Yeah, everyone
at that bart looks familiar to me.

610
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.519
Well, that might that might be
more of it. That might be more

611
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.880
of you interpreting things than what's really
happening there. But you never know.

612
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:17.079
Stranger things have occurred. After all, Judy Baker claimed to be in a

613
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.239
picture where there's some blurry woman like
two blocks away from Clay Shaw one time,

614
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.960
and that was supposed to be proof
that she knew him. But anyway

615
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.760
that happening or not happening, who
knows. B Pete, you said you

616
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:31.880
had a follow up to some question
JJ asked you, like a couple of

617
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:37.079
weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks
ago we were talking about the money that

618
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:45.480
was found. But what's his name's
wife? Dorothy? You're talking about Dorothy

619
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.920
Hunt I Howard Hwick's wife. Yeah, and the ten grand, Yeah,

620
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:54.679
that was recovered near her, But
then the speculation that other money was probably

621
00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:00.239
present absconded with. There should have
been hundreds of thousands whatever, but they

622
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:06.519
found ten grand either on in some
luggage of hers or in a baggers somehow

623
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.760
connected to her in cash. But
yeah, so you did a little follow

624
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:14.480
up on that. Yeah, I
did some looking into it to try to

625
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:16.360
find the source of the money,
because that was Jimmy's question, if we

626
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:20.079
knew where if they had ever found
out where the money came from. The

627
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:25.360
best I've been able to find it
was Sherman Skoldnick that had run a series

628
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:31.360
of articles back then when it happened, and apparently he's been able to trace

629
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:38.880
the money to about eleven million dollars
that the creep the committee to re elect

630
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:47.559
the President had diverted for the Watergate
episode and some other shenanikins that they were

631
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.519
pulling at the time. So based
on what I've been able to find out

632
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:54.719
that he's really the only one that
really looked into the source. And from

633
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:58.840
what I understand, it was like
ten thousand found in her purse, right,

634
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:05.480
but in her lokage there was like
one hundred thousand that supposedly got its

635
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.880
kind of like the JFK thing,
it got inventoried, but then it suddenly

636
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:13.519
was deinventoried. Right, I'm wondering
if that money was given back to the

637
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.280
source. Here's the problem. Okay, you know, just keep it hitting.

638
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:22.719
So here's the problem where Sherman Skolnick
is an interesting character in JFK research

639
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.800
history. Interesting guy all the way
around. I think professionally he might have

640
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.360
been a lawyer if I remember right. I mean, I haven't looked up

641
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:32.679
anything on him in a long time, but he was a wheelchair bound guy

642
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:37.519
and had done some really good work
on a couple of areas of the case

643
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:43.360
at a time when the resources to
do that work were very limited, very

644
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:49.280
hard to come by. But the
problem with Skolnick is that occasionally you will

645
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:53.119
find claims that nobody else can verify. That. He comes up with something

646
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:57.199
and makes a claim, and when
you get all the way to the bottom

647
00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.960
of it, it becomes well,
it's more about what's missing than what he

648
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:07.159
found, and he's making an assumption
at some point. And that's an honest

649
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.760
criticism of a guy who's long dead. May Brussel appreciated him, for sure,

650
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.360
but outside of that, Sherman Skolnick
was kind of, I don't know,

651
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:20.440
like a double edged sword. Some
of his stuff he couldn't independently verify

652
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.039
it, and that makes it difficult. Some stuff he came up with,

653
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.480
though, was actually well ahead of
some of the authors that have been given

654
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:30.599
credit for it when they found the
evidence, you know, other evidence later

655
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.920
to back up some claims he made
this indeed, is one of those times,

656
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.360
I think, because only Skolnick,
to my knowledge, has ever made

657
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:44.719
a claim that there was evidence to
support this, and I've never been able

658
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.239
to see it. And you know, he was robbed at one point.

659
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:51.480
He had a station wagon I think, with a wheelchair in the back and

660
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.440
a whole bunch of his research,
and somebody went in there and stole his

661
00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.320
wheelchair and his research and left other
things in the car that were probably a

662
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.079
lot easier to move at a pawnshop. But yet that's what they took from

663
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:08.119
him, is his wheelchair and his
research. You know. So he's yeah,

664
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:13.360
gol a police department, as I
recall, Yes, the LA Police

665
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:16.840
Department had seized a bunch of things
and suddenly we never took that, you

666
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.360
know, became the cry. Uh
literally, that's what happened to him.

667
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.639
Now. I don't know if he's
got anything to back that up, because

668
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:28.920
I've never seen, you know,
hard evidence to back up his claim.

669
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.360
But that does make sense that Skolnik
would have said it. But did he

670
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.159
have anything to back it up or
was it an assumption he made. I

671
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.280
don't know. So I would say
Keith digging, but that's I think where

672
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.519
the idea comes from, even is
his assertion. You know, other people

673
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:50.440
speculated as well. But when you
dig on their speculation, even if they

674
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.760
say it's you know, proven,
you come up with at some point they're

675
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:59.719
making an assumption. So that's the
problem with the missing you know, Hunt

676
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:05.599
money. You know, ten grand
we can verify. So I've heard them.

677
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:08.039
I've heard, yeah, the ten
grand's supposedly could be verified, and

678
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:14.519
I've heard them just looking through I've
read like three or four different authors who

679
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.039
claimed that, yeah, the money
was you know, they they don't have

680
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:21.119
the absolute proof, but they feel
like it came out of creep funds that

681
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.559
were used for not only the break
in, but you know, the ten

682
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:29.679
thousand was supposedly for Hunt keeping quiet, and apparently she was on her way

683
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:37.639
to go and purchase a holiday inn
hotel with the ten thousand down, but

684
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.800
the other monies were also supposed to
go towards that. There was also a

685
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:45.760
lot of documents that ended up missing
according to call me. Now. You

686
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.559
know, I don't know if those
have been traced down, but I would

687
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:57.800
think that it would be you know, I'd say the odds are, yeah,

688
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:04.760
that money was probably some money that
got from the campaign to the shenanigans

689
00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.639
that the creep guys were pulling,
both with Watergate and some of the other

690
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.639
things that were going on, and
that was just some of the money.

691
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.039
Now, so I put serial numbers
to go by who knows, just an

692
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.639
interest to keeping the show moving.
I put Jimmy on hold. We have

693
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.199
another caller coming up, a new
one, and then we'll go back around

694
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:23.960
or get to new ones as they
come up. Three one nine, five,

695
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.639
two seven, five zero one six. Last word on this just for

696
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:34.280
now is real simple though, because
look when you can you notice how it

697
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:39.679
sounds a lot like the story of
what he experienced literally where his documents disappeared

698
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:45.760
his wheelchair and his documents disappeared when
the cops got involved. It's not a

699
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.480
stretch of the imagination. When you
know, cash disappears when it's being seized.

700
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.360
Uh, you know a drug dealer
is going to sit there and complain

701
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.920
that there was eight million dollars instead
of the four million that they said they

702
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.079
seized. Not really, uh,
or anybody try to complain about it,

703
00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.440
Well, can't help you. We
know what was inventoried. Money disappearing not

704
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:09.800
a shocker, but the fact is. I think you're looking at something that

705
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.760
could have been transposed, because he
had an experience that I that I do

706
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:20.360
know was verifiable. His claim is
verifiable that they might have you know,

707
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.840
they definitely had his stuff and then
didn't have his stuff. You know.

708
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.719
Their thing I think was the time
was oh that's clerical error. You know,

709
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.320
they claimed they saw these things,
they didn't actually take custody of them.

710
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:37.000
Whatever. And somehow in the shoveler's
wheelchair was taken too, which I

711
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.159
think might have been you know,
a personal little f you to the guy.

712
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.960
But you know, again, now
I'm speculating. So let's get to

713
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:49.159
the next caller. Let's see what
is the area code on this one?

714
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.639
Looks like nine one six. Let
me see. Yeah, okay, I

715
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.280
gotta like press my face up against
the screen to see it. Nine one

716
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:59.320
six area code. We'll get to
you, and then we'll start getting back

717
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:02.079
around everybody and check the time.
Might even be almost time for a break.

718
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.320
But anyway, nine one six area
code. You're live, and don't

719
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.679
know if you want to talk about
the man on fire, Dorothy Hunt,

720
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:15.280
or something else on your mind is
all up to you. Well, it's

721
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.199
Danny out here. In California.
What I want to talk about is I

722
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:25.599
kind of want to chime in.
You had a regular Joe and Captain trips

723
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:34.920
on just recently, and I want
to agree with the Like Captain Trips,

724
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:38.960
he came from a Christian perspective.
I'm also a Christian too, and not

725
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:45.000
everybody agrees with this Christian zionism.
And he made the exactly what's reading my

726
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.000
mind when he said, well,
Jesus said, nobody will know the end

727
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:55.159
of time. So when I got
exposed this from this whole dispensationalism, I

728
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:59.000
went down to deep die. It's
kind of one of my four kas I

729
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:07.000
like to look at in history.
That whole philosophy started maybe about less than

730
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:10.559
two hundred years ago in England,
and it was a fringe movement, like

731
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:15.000
a lot of in all religions,
Fringe movements slowly takes time to kind of

732
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:21.360
catch on, and it was always
a fringe movement. But what happened was

733
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:27.719
there was a big selling, skulfilled
Bible of that type of theology got kind

734
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.880
of like us. It was a
big seller, and over time, as

735
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:37.119
the mid while the mainline Protestant denomination
started declining, they picked up on it,

736
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:42.000
And then back in the seventies you
had the best seller Howl Lindsay's Late

737
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.039
Great Planet Earth. And the whole
fight at that time was going to be

738
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:51.800
Russia in Israel. And now it's
evolved, it's kept evolving, and now

739
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:57.679
it's kind of it's even got like
political power. Are you talking about the

740
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:04.079
initial Worldwide Zionism Council or whatever it
was called, where they were trying to

741
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.719
find the new the new homeland that
started in the eighteen hundreds, Are you

742
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.119
talking about that movement the beginnings of
that, Well, there there was,

743
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.400
there was, There was There was
a kind of a Christian Israel that that

744
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:22.480
was a set, but it was. It was a guy named John Nelson

745
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:29.119
Darby, and he was a he
was a Protestant theologian that kind of he

746
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.880
kind of like what I studied.
He kind of copied and paste sell versus

747
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.760
the Bible and created this whole He
started the whole rapture movement. It wasn't

748
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:44.519
in the first century probably, I
mean in the early Christian Church, they

749
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:49.079
were they had the Creed, so
there was always a second coming that not

750
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.079
this that the Church was going to
be removed from Earth. And around the

751
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:59.039
first thousand years there was you know, excitement that this is the millennium that

752
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.519
there may be Christ returns, but
it's kind of picked up them. So

753
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:07.360
when you're seeing like a lot of
the evangelicals that are kind of really they're

754
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.119
all pro Israel that they believe they're
going to usher in the Second Coming,

755
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:15.960
this is this has started out as
a fringe movement, but it's just gained

756
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:21.400
a lot of traction and it's been
useful. Well these you know even though,

757
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:22.920
right, So, what you're saying
is, even though they're linked to

758
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.960
ancient ideas, what the deal is
is that the the codifying of this comes

759
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:31.719
in around the same time of the
idea that you know, there's going to

760
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.920
be a day and all of the
good people are going to be raptured up

761
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.679
to heaven and stuff like that.
All of those sort of fringe ideas,

762
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:47.119
they're kind of newer developments in the
circles of faith. That's what you're saying.

763
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.800
Yeah, I'm saying the first eighteen
hundred years Christianity, there was there

764
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:58.639
was really no concept of that.
It's it's basically a newer concept that just

765
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:04.679
solely avall and it's a great evangelical
tool because hey, you got to get

766
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:10.880
prepared now because the sickly comes any
moment, you know, right and fair

767
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.400
enough. And look, when it
comes to this, I'm letting other people

768
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.320
speak on it, you know,
because they have their own ideas about it

769
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:22.559
and it's very personal to them.
Much like that night, I wanted,

770
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:27.920
you know, I wanted Captain Tripps
to go ahead, speak from your perspective.

771
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:31.400
Right, You're a Christian and this
is linked to your faith. This

772
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:35.519
is what I'm told, right,
and this is what they teach from the

773
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:39.079
pulpit, to the best of my
knowledge, you know, So explain this

774
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:42.440
to me and tell me about it
from your side of it. And that's

775
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.480
what you're doing now, is tell
me about the history. I understand that

776
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:51.079
you're very correct about this, that
these are very new ideas actually among the

777
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:57.159
Christian circles of faith. And you
know, Christian Christianity is not a geminy,

778
00:56:57.639 --> 00:57:02.440
it's not a completely homogenous the thing
as you know, some people want

779
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:07.079
to represent it that way. And
it's all supposed to be about, I

780
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.800
mean, to my knowledge again,
this is about, you know, an

781
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:17.000
agreement that you all believe in the
concept of the resurrection and that you know

782
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:22.639
Jesus Christ is the guy who did
it, and that's that. That is

783
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.800
your point of agreement. After that, he all diverge into different directions,

784
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.360
it seems like to me, I
mean, I know that sounds really oversimplified,

785
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:35.199
and maybe it is, but that's
where I begin an end on this

786
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:37.320
is that everybody's got different ideas about
it. I mean, it can go

787
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:44.360
all the way from you know,
the very intricate Catholic ceremonies to snake handlers,

788
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:49.199
and it all starts with we all
believe that Christ is the son of

789
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:54.480
God and also part of this trinity
concept, and he the resurrection. That's

790
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.920
your basic tenets of faith. That's
it. After that, though, it

791
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.679
turns into all different things. And
that's why there's so many different sects as

792
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:06.639
they call them. Captain Tripp,
since you were addressed, go ahead and

793
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.079
uh, you know, if you
want to, well, I you know,

794
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:16.920
I don't disagree with anything either of
you said. Uh. Yeah,

795
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:22.400
there are certain core tenants of Christianity
that that you know, you you really

796
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:27.360
you have to subscribe to or else. I you know, I can't understand

797
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.440
how you call yourself a Christian.
But quite frankly, and I'm sure I'm

798
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:34.400
going to catch catch flack for this
one, but I quite frankly don't see

799
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.880
the Christians iionis is really practicing Christianity. I'm not sure what they're practicing,

800
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.679
but it doesn't jibe with anything I've
ever read in the Bible. And I've

801
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:51.360
read it, like I said,
I've read it multiple times. So yeah,

802
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.440
you know, and I I tend
to subscribe to I think the concept,

803
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.679
you know, I I I think
the concept is simply profess your faith

804
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:05.440
in Christ is not is not all
you have to do. You know,

805
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.239
Christ tells you to live your life
a certain way, not just say you

806
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:13.119
believe in him, and he clearly
says that. And I have to look

807
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.800
at the scripture because now it just
flew out of my mind, but basically

808
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:20.960
he attributed words to Christ. There
there are certain ones of you who will

809
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:24.000
claim that you're doing my work.
You know, you're doing my father's will,

810
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:30.880
but you're not, and you won't
be saved so simply by believing that

811
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.599
Christ is the Messiah, which I
do. But I also think that inherent

812
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:39.599
in that is, if you're going
to believe in that, then the other

813
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:44.800
side of that coint is you are
supposed to live your life a certain way.

814
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.639
Not that we're not all sinners,
but if you just you know,

815
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.039
I used to always use the concept
of so you're trying to tell me that

816
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:54.599
if you know, two minutes before
Adolf Hitler put a bullet in his head,

817
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:59.119
he professed to be a follower of
Christ, that he's forgiven for everything.

818
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:01.480
That's just you know that, you
know, Like, like I've always

819
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.880
said, I got a lot of
questions like when I when I get there

820
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.639
right? And I saw I saw
a cartoon some years ago, which again

821
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:12.679
I love, I love my cartoons. Everybody knows that that listens to my

822
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.800
show. But uh, one of
the best things was, you know,

823
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:20.239
like it was like serial killer Cannibal
sits there and goes, oh, so

824
01:00:20.360 --> 01:00:23.079
that's my last minute get out of
jail free card. So they're about ready

825
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.519
to swoop down on him and like
shoot him to death, you know,

826
01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:30.400
like, uh, FBI squad is
coming in with the paratroopers, about ready

827
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.320
to put a bullet in his head. And then uh, and then they

828
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:38.920
switched to Osama bin Laden and Osama
bin Laden is waiting to get you know

829
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:42.519
killed. In the whole story where
the you know, the guys bust in

830
01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:45.800
and shoot him right and uh,
and he holds up his hands and he

831
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:49.199
goes, uh, I claim Jesus
Christ is my true Lord and Savior.

832
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:52.960
And as he's getting shot, he
gets to go into heaven. And I

833
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.920
kind of went, yeah, that's
about how I Yeah, but that's how

834
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:04.599
I boiled down some people's interpretation.
Yeah, Carlin has Carlon has had a

835
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:08.599
great clip of who's talking about Jerry
Folwell, an old Carlon clip? And

836
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:14.119
they start, when did I say
build a water park? Yeah? He's

837
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:16.880
he sits there. I'm looking through
this Bible, and where does it say,

838
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:21.360
Oh, Sam Kennison did that too? Where did I say build a

839
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:27.000
slide? Water slide? It could
have been you know what, it could

840
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.159
have been Tennyson. I thought it
was Carlin, but I remember Kennison doing

841
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:31.239
it because he had been a preacher
and all that. By the way,

842
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:35.960
brought up in the chat is the
idea that Darby also puts to the rapture

843
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:43.920
cult of American exceptionalism escapist theology.
Uh uh, let's see through through that

844
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:49.440
Thompson Chain Bible. Okay. What's
interesting here, though, is that baked

845
01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:54.920
into American culture is also the concept
of Calvinism, which is where I start

846
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.519
having big arguments and get myself in
trouble cause, you know, the calvin

847
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:04.119
is pretty much believe that those that
are rich and successful are that way because

848
01:02:04.519 --> 01:02:08.039
God ordained them to be that way, and this is the way life is.

849
01:02:08.079 --> 01:02:10.800
So if your life sucks, it's
because God decided that's the way your

850
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:17.039
life's supposed to be. Really weird
Calvinism, and I know I've totally oversimplified

851
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:22.239
it, but it's baked into American
culture in a lot of ways. If

852
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:25.119
you listen to the way, you
know, everybody almost always goes to the

853
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:30.079
idea of, well, you know, you brought this upon yourself, and

854
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.599
that's the way it is. Despite
the fact that it seems to me like

855
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.039
the idea of upward mobility is what
should be baked into the American culture.

856
01:02:39.280 --> 01:02:44.199
The delusion of it is there,
but the brass tax of it end up

857
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:47.679
more like, no, if you're
you know, selected, or you're part

858
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:53.360
of the elect then you're allowed to
be you know, to be fruitful and

859
01:02:53.480 --> 01:03:00.239
thrive, which is always weird when
religiosity gets into this because I don't know,

860
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.440
I don't see a lot about your
financial success, you know, it's

861
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:09.480
not like in Star Trek the FARINGI
what is it the the rules of acquisition

862
01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:15.599
that they live by. That's not
the Bible, you know. Anyways,

863
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:19.159
we're gonna take a quick break.
B Pete has kind of dropped off for

864
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:22.239
a minute. He might return because
he's at work. He might not.

865
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.519
But I've got a couple of callers
on the line. I'll get back around

866
01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:30.320
to everybody and anybody else knew that
wants to join in absolutely welcome at all

867
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:34.159
times. Bring up whatever you want, throw on the table, whatever you

868
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.760
like. And that number to join
is three one nine five two seven five

869
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:43.519
zero one six. Once again three
one nine five two seven five zero one

870
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:47.480
six, or reach out to me. I'm Charles dot o'ceelly on Skype and

871
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:53.239
you can request me to call you
into the show through Skype like Captain Tripps

872
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:57.440
did. So far, we've heard
from Jimmy James, we've heard from Chris,

873
01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:02.039
and we've heard from our friend in
California. Was it Danny, right,

874
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:06.000
Yeah, Danny in California. Yeah, he's still on the line.

875
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.199
He's still live. Anyways, you
could be live with us too, three

876
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:15.280
one nine five two seven five zero
one six if you're hearing us about eleven

877
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:45.679
minutes after nine pm. Wall Street
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878
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Street Window, Dott. Perhaps you're
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879
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enough. Maybe you're thinking about getting
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880
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.320
Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of
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881
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:06.400
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882
01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:15.679
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883
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now. The War State by Michael
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884
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:25.079
place and put the Kennedy presidency in
the context of the times, and reveals

885
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:30.119
never before published information about the Cuban
missile crisis. President Kennedy would not have

886
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.880
been assassinated if he had been president
two hundred years ago. His assassination took

887
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.760
place in the context of the Cold
War and the rise of the national security

888
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.679
state. Before World War II,
the United States was a continental republic.

889
01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:46.199
In the decade that followed, it
became an imperial superpower. Generals such as

890
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:50.280
Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade
Cuba, but knew that there were short

891
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:55.800
range missiles on the island armed with
nuclear warheads that they could not destroyed because

892
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.639
they were on mobile launchers. Their
invasion could have led to a Third World

893
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.880
War, and they wanted to go
to war anyway. The War State by

894
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:08.360
Michael Swanson reveals why, and we'll
show you what President Kennedy was up against.

895
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:12.880
For more information the War State dot
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896
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.239
Report dot com and you're listening to
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897
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.079
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898
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:20.800
get on the air at o'helly dot
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899
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:25.360
Lilly dot com or check o'lly.
And we are not responsible for any stupidity

900
01:06:25.360 --> 01:07:27.639
which might issue thank you revelation through
conversation. See watch yourself to sleep,

901
01:07:30.000 --> 01:08:00.719
Manny, you want stir from and
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902
01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:26.560
dot com radio network? Go ahead
the truth about the day of assassination?

903
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.359
Right, Well, what do you
want to know any Baker's wild claim?

904
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.279
Oswald girlfriend, if you knew Ruby
and Barrie cancer weapons, really, I

905
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:35.319
imagine I could claim I have four
wheels. It doesn't make me a wagon,

906
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:40.960
but Okay Bilby and trying to prevent
the murder of John Kennedy. Come

907
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:44.960
on now has a real effort on
the day of hay assassination Bolaim. Go

908
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:49.199
to Amazon dot com, enter Judith
Baker in her own words. You'll get

909
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:54.800
the results for a digital copy of
a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own

910
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:59.920
words and the known evidence in the
case to get at well a different person.

911
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:03.279
Let's say you can get Judith Barry
Baker in her own words from the

912
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:08.760
author himself, signed if you request
it by contacting doctor Brown at K I

913
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:12.880
A S J F K at A
O L dot com. It's a fun

914
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:17.760
book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims Judith very Baker in

915
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:38.720
her own words o chili dot com. Second segment of the o'cell effect begins

916
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:43.960
here on a friar's day night,
and I've got a little little special drop

917
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.680
in. Somebody wants to say hello. So Frankie's with me in the in

918
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:51.960
the studio at the moment, my
office in the house here. Ye,

919
01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.159
So anything you want to add to
the discussion tonight, Frankie, go ahead,

920
01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:02.640
Sure, you don't know what to
say. No, that's all right,

921
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.640
don't worry about it. That's fine. You gotta wait for something to

922
01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:10.199
come to the door anyway, right, yep, all right, so you

923
01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:12.960
go ahead and take care of that
when the dogs start parking for me.

924
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.079
Okay, appreciate it. Anyway,
we'll get back around to your calls.

925
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.640
Three one nine, five two seven
five zero one six, and uh,

926
01:11:20.840 --> 01:11:24.159
maybe you have something you want to
drop in. Frankie didn't know what he

927
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:26.680
wanted to drop in, but he
did want to say hi. Right,

928
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:30.279
yep, there you go, so
he said hello to all of you listening.

929
01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:33.359
All right, Bud, go ahead
and do your thing. Just don't

930
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:39.640
let the dogs come in. Okay, bye, there he goes Frankie,

931
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:45.119
little mister. Oh, anyways,
that's what's happening. And uh no,

932
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:48.239
we're not talking about the fire starter
incident just yet because I don't need to

933
01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:53.720
expose him to that right now.
Anyway, it is what it is,

934
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:56.319
It was what it was, It's
gonna be what it's gonna be. So

935
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.039
I'll let Captain Tripps lead off the
discussion this out and we still have some

936
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.079
callers on the line. I'll come
back around to you. If you're on

937
01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:09.199
hold three one nine five two seven
five zero one six. That's how you

938
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.640
can join in for at least the
next forty five minutes or so. Uh,

939
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.279
because we're gonna go past ten o'clock
tonight by a little bit, but

940
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.439
not much. Uh, no age
of transitions or Uncle show tonight, I

941
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:23.239
take the kid as a soccer game
again or something. So we'll find out

942
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:26.159
in a week or two or whenever
they come back. What's what's been happening

943
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.680
with Aaron and Uncle but not this
week. Oh. Also, by the

944
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.760
way, could could use your help
at o'chelly dot com if you get a

945
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:38.800
chance, drop something into the uh
donation button over there. It would be

946
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.199
a big help, especially at this
time. I just got done paying off

947
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:46.000
the uh the thing that keeps the
free podcast free out there on most platforms,

948
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.239
and uh the website got paid off
this month too and all that,

949
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:55.560
so you know, my annual payments
just went so I'm kind of broke anyways,

950
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:58.000
is what it is? Was what
it was like, I said,

951
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.359
gonna be what it's gonna be,
Captain Trip. You wanted to dovetail onto

952
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:08.640
the conversation from the last segment so
on you man, I just wanted to

953
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:12.640
throw in that I found the scripture
that I was looking for. It comes

954
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:16.079
from Matthew chapter seven. It comes
out of the parable of the tree and

955
01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.319
the fruit. So where we get
the when we get the concept of you

956
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:21.960
know, a good tree bears good
fruit, and bad tree bears bad fruits.

957
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:27.920
But when you get to verse twenty
one, not everyone who says to

958
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.520
me, Lord Lord, will enter
the Kingdom of heaven, but only he

959
01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:32.760
who does the will of my father
in heaven. Many will say to me

960
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:35.760
on that day, Lord Lord,
did we not prophecy in your name,

961
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:40.319
and in your names drive out demons
and perform miracles? Then I will tell

962
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:43.439
them plainly, I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of

963
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.600
lawlessness. So therefore, in the
next parable is the house on the rock.

964
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.399
Therefore everyone who hears these words of
mine and acts on them as like

965
01:13:50.439 --> 01:13:55.119
a wise man who builds his house
on the rock. But everyone who hears

966
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.760
these words of mine and does not
act on them, as like the foolish

967
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.720
man who build his house on sand. The rain fell once raids, and

968
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:02.800
the winds blew and beat against the
house, and it felt and great was

969
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:08.920
its collapse. So yeah, I
don't and I don't buy into the calvinistic

970
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:15.119
concept of predestination, and certainly don't
buy into the concept of you know,

971
01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:18.279
the wealth or favor that was that's
and I don't I never really quite figured

972
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:23.560
out how some of these, some
of these later denominations so twisted what was

973
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:28.600
actually written in the scriptures, because
you know, it's it's easier for a

974
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:30.039
camel to pass through the eye of
a needle than a rich man to enter

975
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.399
the gates of heaven. And I'll
get off, I'll get off. I'll

976
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:35.800
get off the pulpit right now.
There you go, except for religious you

977
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:41.520
know. But providence is a concept
that I don't necessarily disagree with. I

978
01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:45.039
mean, I think some things are
predestined, but there's usually a logical reason

979
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:47.840
how that got lined up. I
mean, you inherit from you know,

980
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:53.279
your your home and your culture,
that you absorb a lot of things that

981
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.479
preset a lot of your destination,
for sure. But it seems to me

982
01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:01.000
as though the idea of America anyway, and the spirit of it, if

983
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:03.840
you will, is supposed to be. I mean, that silly thing they

984
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:06.479
always told me as a kid is
you can be whatever you want to be.

985
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:11.520
You can ascend whatever heights you want
to ascend to make of it what

986
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:15.239
you will. I always thought that
was one of the cornerstones, but I've

987
01:15:15.279 --> 01:15:19.119
been taught otherwise over the years.
I just I just always thought that was

988
01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:23.279
the old army commercials from the eighties, be all that you can be in

989
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:26.960
the army. See it could be
that thing I mixed up. P Pete

990
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.560
has rejoined us. By the way, My co host is back, so

991
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.239
I don't know if he wants to
add anything in before we go running through

992
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.880
the callers again, or anybody new
that shows up at three one nine,

993
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:40.680
five, two seven, five zero
one six. Got plenty of time to

994
01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.439
work with tonight if we want it, so, uh, you know,

995
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.239
get on and say whatever you want
to say about whatever you want to talk

996
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:49.640
about. Be Pete, what's uh? What's up? Man? Oh?

997
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:54.800
Nothing, I just had to go
make a traffic check on, so we

998
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:59.760
go divert traffic into the ditch.
Guys, we're working without here or not

999
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.760
the most stellar when he comes to
paying attention to detail. But I've been

1000
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:09.720
catching just bits and pieces of the
discussion since I took off down the road.

1001
01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:14.520
I would like to ask you a
favor though that link that I sent

1002
01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:20.359
you to the rand Paul op ed
that he and unfortunately he you know,

1003
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:24.359
printed it on Fox. I know
a lot of people have a lot of

1004
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:28.560
problem with that. But if you'll
think back to when we were having discussions,

1005
01:16:29.800 --> 01:16:31.279
I remember somebody asked me, and
I think it was it may have

1006
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:35.079
been Jimmy James, I'm not sure, but they asked if I thought at

1007
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:45.800
one time that COVID was manufactured for
a purpose. And when you look into

1008
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:50.880
that op ed and you read through
it and you read about the chronology of

1009
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:57.159
things that went on back in twenty
eighteen, I was dead on when I

1010
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.600
said that this thing started. It
a couple of labs, one of them

1011
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:04.640
being here at the University of North
Carolina and North here in North Carolina,

1012
01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:09.479
Chapel Hill, right. One of
the big proponents of that was a guy

1013
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:13.560
that was that was running the lab
there, that was working with Fauci and

1014
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.520
apparently in this article. And the
only reason I bring it up is because

1015
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.039
a lot of the things that we
said when this thing first came out,

1016
01:17:20.079 --> 01:17:26.359
a lot of things we suspected have
been proven to be true. Well even

1017
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:29.640
just to make this point real fast, even one of the things that I

1018
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:36.079
was directly penalized for on YouTube turns
out to be a plausible explanation later when

1019
01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:40.680
I simply speculated that, of course
something like this would come out of a

1020
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:43.439
lab. I don't know if people
remember. This might have gone down the

1021
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:45.439
memory hole already, but there was
a point in time in which you were

1022
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:50.119
not allowed to say that this could
have been manufactured in a lab. You

1023
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.640
were punished for it, and I
was punished for it on YouTube directly.

1024
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.760
It was part of why they took
me down. I just wanted to point

1025
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:00.560
that out, Bepede, is that
And I wasn't being hard about it.

1026
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:03.960
I was saying that, and should
we trust the big pharma companies who have

1027
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:09.600
a track record like this publicly no
knowledge about the damage they've done, the

1028
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:15.279
lawsuits, et cetera. And yeah, I was taken down for medical disinformation.

1029
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.840
That was one of my major strikes
against my account. So but please

1030
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.520
go. Yeah, well, I
was going to say, you know,

1031
01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:26.079
he come to find out that back
in twenty eighteen they had made a proposal

1032
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:30.640
to DARPA about this actual project,
and you know, Fauci all along was

1033
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:34.000
claiming that he had no knowledge of
this, and oh no, you know,

1034
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:38.600
he started out saying, well,
it could have been from a lab,

1035
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:45.960
and then they changed course and he
actually sponsored a research paper to say

1036
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:49.439
why it couldn't. And now we're
finding out that it was to cover his

1037
01:18:49.640 --> 01:18:59.159
butt. Because the databases that all
these labs put these these actual makeup of

1038
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:06.800
these virus is in when this thing
happened, there were some references to viruses

1039
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:13.760
that were in the database that were
actually in this Darper proposal. Well,

1040
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:15.840
come to find out, these guys
not only pitched this to DARPA, they

1041
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:24.960
pitched it to fifteen different agencies,
including the NIH and the Naiad, which

1042
01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:33.800
Naiad which is Fauci's department of the
NIH, and Fauci's own lab in Colorado

1043
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:40.760
was proposed to be part of this
research. And all along he's been telling

1044
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.760
Congress, we didn't know anything about
it. Nobody had a clue. There

1045
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:49.640
were fifteen government agencies that knew that
this thing was proposed, and suddenly a

1046
01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:55.319
year later they're all silent. And
this took place back when Trump was in

1047
01:19:55.439 --> 01:20:00.800
office. So it just goes to
show you how far the deep state can

1048
01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.359
try to suppress things. Here it
is, what five years later and we're

1049
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:10.000
finally getting this information out and it
was only because of freedom of information requests

1050
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.119
that were made, and then finally
Congress sat down and said, okay,

1051
01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:16.439
we want these documents, we want
these emails, we want all this information.

1052
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.760
They finally started giving it up,
and now we're actually seeing exactly what

1053
01:20:20.960 --> 01:20:24.800
happened. I'm just curious to see
how long it's going to be before we

1054
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.680
start prosecuting some of these people.
Oh well, it won't happen. Yeah,

1055
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:33.079
but the evidence is out there.
It was all a big sham,

1056
01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:38.319
the whole thing. Yeah. Well, see, there you go. Even

1057
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:43.760
though I don't endorse that documentary you
know that calls itself the scamdemic or whatever,

1058
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.119
because there's some poorly sourced things in
there. It's not like the concept

1059
01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:51.920
is wrong, concept is correct,
execution poor, you know. And here

1060
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:57.239
we go again. Right, you
can get penalized for speaking out about the

1061
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.399
wrong thing at the wrong time.
Absolutely, Look at how many you know.

1062
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:04.680
That's where substack got big. That
was the first time I'd ever heard

1063
01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:10.199
of substack is when some of these
authors of paper said, look, I'm

1064
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:14.880
putting it here because every other platform
I put it on I'm being dplatformed,

1065
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:17.840
right, So here it is at
my substack that's when I first heard of

1066
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.560
substack. Is what we were talking
about, all this COVID crap. Right.

1067
01:21:21.640 --> 01:21:25.199
But now, like I said,
just like the evolution of podcasting,

1068
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:28.039
everybody and their mother's got something,
or at least they figured out how to

1069
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.680
hook onto X and go out there
and do it. Because there's lots of

1070
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:36.000
you know, live podcasts going out
on X, you know, so there

1071
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:40.000
you go. Now everybody and their
mother has it. But what does it

1072
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.560
do a lot of the platforms that
you were supposed to have, you know,

1073
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.800
equal access to, not so much
anymore. And it all swings one

1074
01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.159
way or the other, and it
doesn't really matter. And they think it's

1075
01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:55.359
only going after conservatives. No,
it goes after anything that could possibly challenge

1076
01:21:55.399 --> 01:22:01.159
the system. Okay, And indeed
some people they're challenging the system when really

1077
01:22:01.199 --> 01:22:05.960
they're making irresponsible statements. You know, people that are out there talking about

1078
01:22:06.039 --> 01:22:11.039
you know, they're making violent statements, making threats of violence. You weren't

1079
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:15.920
taken down because of your stance against
system. You were taken down because of

1080
01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:21.840
your violent statement. You were taken
down because you literally were defaming somebody in

1081
01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:27.319
some cases, but in cases where
people are actually you know, challenging the

1082
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.439
system. Yeah, you get hit, you're you know, medical disinformation,

1083
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:35.279
you are an election denier, you
are et cetera, et cetera, and

1084
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.319
you get those wonderful labels. Anyways, we could go back around to the

1085
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.840
callers. What do you think,
Bpeach, should we go there or what

1086
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:45.279
next? Yeah, I mean that
would be fine. I just want to

1087
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.720
add one other point. I've made
this point before, and I'm sure people

1088
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:53.039
are tired of hearing it, but
when you look at the the Black Book

1089
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:56.600
of Communism, where you look at
any of the statistics that have kept so

1090
01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.760
far, and you look at these
regimes and the means of people that have

1091
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:04.199
and killed, you've got Communist China, Soviet Russia, the Nazis in Germany,

1092
01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:12.439
and number four Anthony Fauci and his
bunch. Well, look, I

1093
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.399
know nobody, nobody likes to hear
this, but the truth is that the

1094
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:25.600
medical industry and it's wonderful partners in
the drug industry have very likely been responsible

1095
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:30.720
for more deaths than all of the
wars combined during the time that the United

1096
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:38.399
Statess existed. And that's as far
as I'm concerned. An absolute fact doesn't

1097
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:43.720
matter how you want to slice it. Sorry, good, I'll second that.

1098
01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.680
I'll second that, so you know, sorry, that is just the

1099
01:23:47.720 --> 01:23:50.840
way of it. And meanwhile,
we're supposed to say no, you need

1100
01:23:50.920 --> 01:24:00.319
to blindly do what trust. The
science is, The science is the ciens,

1101
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:02.880
right, So that's what he said. I am science. She questioned

1102
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:06.359
me your question in science, So
I'd love to question him sitting on a

1103
01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:12.600
defendant's chair, and I'm just wondering, if we see a change in government

1104
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:15.439
this next election, and he goes
back leaning the other way, if we're

1105
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:18.239
going to start seeing some of this
stuff end up in court. Right,

1106
01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:21.760
Hey, one of you mainstream jerks
who listens to my show, go ahead

1107
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:27.319
and license the Thomas Dolby song,
please, And when you decide to cover

1108
01:24:27.439 --> 01:24:30.960
some of this stuff and do the
she blended me with science, do d

1109
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.359
do? Go ahead, do that
and play some clips of you know,

1110
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:38.520
because I can't afford to license that. Do that, since you guys do

1111
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:42.399
steal ideas from me, please,
because I would love to. I'll play

1112
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:44.680
it on my show and you guys
don't have to hit me for a copy,

1113
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:46.640
right, Okay, So there you
go, a little little give and

1114
01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:49.399
take, little give and take.
Nobody works Oh, by the way,

1115
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.640
whoever it was that was working for
Don Lemon doesn't work for him anymore.

1116
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.439
They used to listen to my show, and I'm sorry to see him go.

1117
01:24:57.159 --> 01:25:00.119
Uh but who knows, who knows
who's listen into me anymore because I'm

1118
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:05.600
seeing weirdo working. Yeah, there
was somebody listening to Don Lemon or working

1119
01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:12.039
for Don Lemon listening to my show. Yeah, and it was weird because

1120
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:17.279
they literally scripted pieces that were direct
quotes off of my show an hour later

1121
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.680
on. It was weird stuff they
were taking. It wasn't like, you

1122
01:25:20.760 --> 01:25:26.239
know, it's not like my ideologies
anything like Don Lemon's. But some of

1123
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:30.159
the odd points were word for word, take it out of my guest's mouth

1124
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:35.039
or my mouth an hour later on
his show. Yeah. Not when he

1125
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:39.640
would play you know, how Racist
is It? Because usually had an hour

1126
01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:44.279
of news, you know, news
argument, then an hour of how Racist

1127
01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:46.159
is It? Where he'd put on
you know, the Brady Bunch boxes of

1128
01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:49.760
people on the screen, and then
you know, let's let's argue over racism.

1129
01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:54.920
I don't think he can do that
anymore. But he's out there independently

1130
01:25:55.039 --> 01:26:00.800
platformed as well, and despite all
the contrue controversy with him in interviewing Elon.

1131
01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:04.760
I think he's still on X.
Also weird the led Don Lemon stay

1132
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:09.000
on there, even though Elon was
pissed off at him directly to his face,

1133
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:12.479
but they won't read state Maria Heller. I don't know. It's weird

1134
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:16.119
they put Alex Jones back on,
Trump back on, but not Maria Heller.

1135
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:23.920
I don't know. Yeah, Alex
is going through a pretty good rehabilitation

1136
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:26.920
here. In the past four or
five months. I've noticed, oh yeah,

1137
01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.880
a whole HBO documentary. I'm not
sure if it's a series or if

1138
01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:34.760
it's just a long documentary, but
just came out a few weeks ago all

1139
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:39.880
about Alex Jones, just saying,
you know, and they follow him through

1140
01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:44.600
the court proceedings and all this stuff, and you know, they watch him,

1141
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:46.840
you know, violate things, and
it would crack me up. Is

1142
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:50.920
the part where he's trying to say
that the one guy who's the parent of

1143
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:55.840
one of the Sandy Hook victims.
He says, uh, yeah, well,

1144
01:26:55.880 --> 01:27:00.319
clearly that guy is what did he
use? Mentally, he's kind of

1145
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.800
like, you know, on the
spectrum or something like that, And then

1146
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:09.079
he walks into a courtroom like an
hour later after doing a live broadcast saying

1147
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.479
that, sitting like ten feet from
the guy and turning around, he's like,

1148
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.840
Alex, Alex, you know,
he kind of I don't know.

1149
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:23.840
I can't understand why I went so
overboard on Sandy Hook, especially after he

1150
01:27:23.880 --> 01:27:27.399
saw what happened to FETs her.
But you know, the one thing that

1151
01:27:27.479 --> 01:27:31.119
stands out to me, and somebody
pointed this out before nine to eleven happened.

1152
01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:38.239
This was in July, Alex Jones
predicted that the towers were going to

1153
01:27:38.279 --> 01:27:42.159
be hit and it was going to
be blamed on Osama Bin Latton. And

1154
01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:46.760
I thought, if Alex Jones can
make that prediction, you can't tell me

1155
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.279
that our government didn't know what was
happening. Yeah, but he stole that

1156
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:58.319
from He stole that from Bill Cooper
really still just to be able to make

1157
01:27:58.359 --> 01:28:02.000
the pronouncement if he he can put
it together. Our government knew that the

1158
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:05.239
thing was gonna happen, No,
okay, I don't know why they couldn't

1159
01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:09.680
figure that nine to eleven wouldn't be
the day they did it proper time context.

1160
01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:13.560
Here's the thing. First of all, Bill Cooper figured that one out

1161
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:17.199
Alex Jones stole it from. Secondly, by the time Alex Jones was screaming

1162
01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:21.760
about Sandy Hook, uh, Fetzer
had not been taken to court yet.

1163
01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:27.880
See that's true, Yeah, so
true. But but you know, because

1164
01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.800
Fetzer made the famous comment you know
why sue Alex Jones, sue me?

1165
01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:35.479
And sure enough they did, they
did exactly from a million four right,

1166
01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:41.640
but you know, the the billion
dollar leaning against Jones. And now he

1167
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:45.680
says, oh, we're bankrupt now, yeah, anyway, you see,

1168
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:51.920
it's all still functioning, everything's fine, right, and he's getting absolutely if

1169
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:57.640
what is his name? Oh,
who was the televangelist Jim Baker? No,

1170
01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:00.760
well, Jim Baker, Jim Baker. Well, Jim Baker wound up

1171
01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:08.119
selling apocalypse buckets or whatever prepared.
In fact, a somebody, some court

1172
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:11.239
came down on him about making claims
some of the stuff that he was selling.

1173
01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:14.159
But yes, you can still get
your survival food in a five gallon

1174
01:29:14.199 --> 01:29:17.600
bucket, right, a five gallon
like a paint bucket of survival food.

1175
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:21.800
And I don't know, I understand, I don't know anybody who's bought it,

1176
01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:26.640
but apparently he was doing pretty well
with it, you know, I

1177
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:30.560
don't know. I don't know,
but it was pretty funny because during some

1178
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:32.720
of the trial clips they showed there, they were like, you know,

1179
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.479
there were people working for him that
were going, look, we know that

1180
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:41.920
this is going to help us sell
our supplements. You know, So they

1181
01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:46.199
were targeting supplement ads at a certain
time because and when they asked Alex Jones

1182
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:49.600
about it on the stand, he
basically would do a commercial. We've been

1183
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:54.159
getting it from the best places in
North America. We lab tested everything and

1184
01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:57.359
we made short ladies, gentlemen,
ard time. And that's what he did

1185
01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.880
on the stand in the court,
which so I don't know. I gotta

1186
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:04.039
say, you gotta watch this HBO
thing if you haven't, but you got

1187
01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:08.880
it. You gotta give Alex credit. He was very creative when they really

1188
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:12.920
backed him into the corner and he
just said, hey, I'm just playing

1189
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:17.520
the persona on my show. I
mean, you got to give him credit

1190
01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:21.119
for thinking on his team well,
hey, hey, that was his lawyers.

1191
01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:26.359
And that was during the custody trial
right where his you know, his

1192
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:30.600
ex was trying to get custody of
the kids, and his defense was I'm

1193
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:32.640
actually a performance artist. That's why
for years I was saying, I'm not

1194
01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:36.680
crazy. I'm just an actor.
I'm a performance artist. So that's why

1195
01:30:36.720 --> 01:30:41.439
I was calling him the the the
performance artist formerly known as Alex Jones for

1196
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.399
a while. But you know,
I got a lot of nicknames for him,

1197
01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:47.960
Panic attack Jones. You know,
I like that because he tries to

1198
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:53.079
ratchet his listeners up. If you
listen to it, it's like he's trying

1199
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:57.640
to get you worked up. You
know, Like that day that he was

1200
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:00.319
screaming that we were being invaded from
the Southern Board that I turned it on

1201
01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:03.760
to one day, I'm like,
Wow, this is amazing because it almost

1202
01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:10.800
sounds like literally there's troops landing in
Mexico that are streaming over the border,

1203
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:15.039
that are just taking down the fences
that are streaming, I mean like pouring

1204
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:18.479
in, like as if enemy troops
were pouring into Texas. Uh, the

1205
01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:23.319
way that he made it sound.
Now, some people would say that's my

1206
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:28.399
favorite has always been the gay Frogs. Well Gay Frogs is interesting too.

1207
01:31:28.439 --> 01:31:30.439
I like when he rips off his
shirt toe and starts screaming, challenging people

1208
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:36.119
to fight him, and you know, uh somebody that one day. Yeah,

1209
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:40.439
look, I guarantee that a pay
per view with Alex Jones in the

1210
01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:45.039
cage with just about anybody would probably
sell Oh you know, I'd almost buy

1211
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:48.600
it. Well, we might partner
on it, you know what I'm saying.

1212
01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:51.880
Get buy a live stream, you
know, give me your pass code.

1213
01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:55.359
Well we will watch the replay,
you know, or maybe we could

1214
01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:57.720
both watch it, maybe get more
than one viewer on it at a time.

1215
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:02.039
We could do a watch party with
it, you know. Anyway,

1216
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:04.760
let's get back around to some of
the callers though, that have been patiently

1217
01:32:04.840 --> 01:32:09.359
waiting see if they want to add
anything to it, or add anything to

1218
01:32:09.439 --> 01:32:15.000
the previous discussion. It's all up
to them. And I think this is

1219
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:18.039
Chris, but the numbers not identified
on my board, is that you Chris?

1220
01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:23.840
Yes, all right, excellent,
I see I see a phone number,

1221
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:27.279
but no name, so I wasn't
sure. And we've had one hang

1222
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:30.800
up or two hang ups. But
anyway, you're back on, and I

1223
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:34.000
think Jimmy James is up after you. So anything you want to add in

1224
01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:38.119
here, or you want to go
in another direction, or should we talk

1225
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:41.920
about the Bible the guy lightened himself
on fire, Alex Jones, or do

1226
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:46.560
you have another idea? It's up
to you now realistically enough time to go

1227
01:32:46.680 --> 01:32:50.520
into everything that i'd like to be
able to discuss. I would like to

1228
01:32:50.600 --> 01:32:54.800
touch on what a Bepete was talking
about in terms of the you know,

1229
01:32:55.159 --> 01:33:00.439
COVID nineteen. Sure, I've learned
to adopt it, you know, calling

1230
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:05.159
it a convent nineteen. You know, I didn't coin that phrase be pretty

1231
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:10.439
suitable. Okay, convent night.
Did you explain that? Would you mind?

1232
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:15.319
Because I never heard that. You're
good, Well man, it's well,

1233
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:18.960
we were all caught, you know, by the whole thing. Okay,

1234
01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:25.640
that that's pretty much. That pretty
much sums it up. I mean,

1235
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:30.520
I mean, I mean, shoot, I mean he can look back

1236
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:33.399
like I mean, you know,
it's been a while since I did it,

1237
01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:38.479
but I mean you can you you
should, unless they've scraped it from

1238
01:33:38.520 --> 01:33:44.720
the internet, which hopefully I'm not
the only person that's aware that you know

1239
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:47.199
that you know, listen to this
podcast or part of this podcast at this

1240
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:51.399
moment, and how they scrape information
from the internet every once in a while,

1241
01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:55.479
you know, just go there or
at least bury it, you know.

1242
01:33:55.640 --> 01:33:57.960
But I mean you can look up
to where I mean, there are

1243
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:01.600
patents that were fouled, you know, for you know COVID nineteen testing.

1244
01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:05.560
You know, it wasn't when they
initially and this I want to say this,

1245
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:11.399
they back to twenty eighteen, twenty
nineteen. You know, it's been

1246
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:19.119
it's been a while since as more
familiarized with the general idea of twenty eighteen

1247
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:25.720
twenty nineteen, where they were developing
and submitting patents for the testing. Well,

1248
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.119
Chris, what are you pandemic?
Yeah? What you're telling me,

1249
01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:32.079
Chris, is that you know,
ahead of the surprise virus that supposedly shut

1250
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.880
down you know, whole chunks of
the world ahead of that, you know,

1251
01:34:36.239 --> 01:34:40.000
the virus they claimed they had no
heads up on, they had no

1252
01:34:40.159 --> 01:34:43.920
warning about. What you're saying is
somebody had tests in hand already, you

1253
01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.319
know, ahead of that. Is
that what you're saying, Yes, sir,

1254
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:49.119
okay, no, just check well, I mean, you know,

1255
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:53.720
conveniently, like you know, and
I'm not trying to I mean, I'm

1256
01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:57.039
still saying I'm somewhat on subject,
but I mean, you know, today

1257
01:34:57.119 --> 01:35:00.279
with the must be the eighth five
N one, you know, the than

1258
01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:03.479
the news strain of the avian bird
flu that we're all supposed to be scared

1259
01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:10.159
him. And guess what you know
where the US has been spending money for

1260
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:16.439
gain the function research for H five
N one, the Wuhan Center of Virology.

1261
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:23.239
Right, that's that's somewhat somewhat new
news. You know that a lot

1262
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:27.640
of people probably aren't familiar with.
But it's Sims too. Well, you

1263
01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:31.199
know, the only thing that was
surprising. I'm sorry, no, I

1264
01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:34.439
just wanted to say, Chris,
if you don't mind, the only thing

1265
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:41.000
that was surprising to me is that
it wasn't yet again another uh, another

1266
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:46.079
sort of boogeyman, another vaporous thing. Because for decades now we've been treated

1267
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:50.079
to get ready for the new bird
flu, get ready for the new swine

1268
01:35:50.199 --> 01:35:56.039
flu, get ready for the new
zeke even back in the eighties. Oh

1269
01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:58.600
yeah, there's something that's going to
kill us every other year, yeah,

1270
01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:02.239
every other year. Right. It
was either it was either that or the

1271
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:06.640
killer bees that were going to migrate, and you know, and we were

1272
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:11.439
going to be overwhelmed one way or
another, overwhelmed with a swarm or a

1273
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:15.159
pandemic that was come and come and
coming, and it was constant reusing them.

1274
01:36:15.239 --> 01:36:17.640
Like I said, it was zekea, it was bird flu. They

1275
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:20.720
had that flesh eating thing for a
little while that was gonna be big,

1276
01:36:23.079 --> 01:36:26.479
you know, because a couple of
people didn't forget. Don't forget monkey pox?

1277
01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:30.119
Oh, monkey pox? Right right, amos, you please do not

1278
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:36.920
say monkey pox. That is extremely
racist. Wait monkey pox, Yeah you

1279
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:42.479
don't, yeah, chuck, believe
it or not. Somehow somebody turned monkey

1280
01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:45.640
pox into being a racist, so
now they call it impos In fact,

1281
01:36:45.680 --> 01:36:48.159
we had a story. You get
two people that caught it here in North

1282
01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:54.640
Carolina. I was not aware that
monkeys could be offended. But if they

1283
01:36:54.720 --> 01:37:00.399
are, my apology, my monkey
brothers go go right ahead, lamp box,

1284
01:37:00.479 --> 01:37:05.520
all right, pine some kind of
pox. But look the different flus,

1285
01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:09.960
right, the different What was the
other thing that was gonna get us?

1286
01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.920
All they had to give us?
Everybody has to get a human papaloma

1287
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.199
virus treatment now too, right,
because even if you don't have a cervix,

1288
01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:20.880
you can get cervical cancer or spread
it. I don't know, I

1289
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:24.479
don't know what the hell's going on, you know what I mean? With

1290
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.479
all these diseases that were supposed to
come and get us, but finally they

1291
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:31.760
had one that they actually had to
act upon, you know what I mean,

1292
01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:36.720
as opposed to the panicking and the
warnings about the thing that never shows

1293
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:42.520
up. I mean, you gotta
crying wolf for a while works, but

1294
01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:45.359
every once in a while you got
to show people a wolf. I guess,

1295
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:48.119
you know, I don't know.
This is just my speculation, but

1296
01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:53.119
you might know better than me,
Chris. Maybe maybe there's more to it.

1297
01:37:53.199 --> 01:37:57.960
But it just seemed to me like
there was a virus dezure for years

1298
01:37:58.319 --> 01:38:00.399
that was gonna come, that was
on its way. And occasionally, Yeah,

1299
01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.640
I liked the zecra virus thing though, because you had the kids with

1300
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:09.800
like the shrunken heads or whatever.
I mean, there was a weird thing

1301
01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:15.359
going on. I couldn't nail down
zeca virus. But yeah, bird flu

1302
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:18.119
and swine flu were the constants.
It seems like, I mean, Captain

1303
01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:21.039
Trips, wait a minute, we
have a medical practitioner on the line.

1304
01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:28.079
Uh. Trips helped me out what
was this series of flus that were supposed

1305
01:38:28.079 --> 01:38:30.960
to kill us all? And maybe
maybe you could comment on this a little

1306
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:38.159
bit. I mean, you know, he traced it back to the Spanish

1307
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:42.079
flu, which wasn't Spanish of nineteen
eighteen, And the truth of the matter

1308
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:46.000
is that that most of those people
that died didn't die from the damn flu.

1309
01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:50.560
They died of secondary bacterial pneumonia.
And another interesting thing that I came

1310
01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:56.279
to find out about the Spanish flu
that occurred when aspirin was brand new,

1311
01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.359
no one knew how to dose it. Half of these people died of ask

1312
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:04.079
for overdoses because they bled out.
So I mean, yeah, they,

1313
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:10.159
oh yeah, you want to ask
you ques question? Go ahead, Okay,

1314
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:13.680
I heard no. No, you
know, I'm not expert on any

1315
01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:17.560
subject, but i'd heard it in
regards to the Spanish flow that pretty much

1316
01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:24.000
how they when they were connected their
initial studies, you know, originally many

1317
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:29.119
many years ago, like I mean
and or you know, yeah, their

1318
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:34.359
methods of infecting people were I mean, there's some and there's some questions.

1319
01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:41.560
Could that could be a risen?
Yes, yes there are there are definitely

1320
01:39:41.720 --> 01:39:45.399
something I'm familiar with it because the
first case is that it came out of

1321
01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:50.119
an army base I think it was
Fort Levenworth actually, and then they shipped

1322
01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:55.439
all these you know, they shipped
all these guys to Europe. But yes,

1323
01:39:55.520 --> 01:39:59.560
there there's some there is some questions
as to the to the actual origins

1324
01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:04.880
and you know, like everything else
the story is very clouded now, you

1325
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:09.239
know, we're well over one hundred
years past it. But I mean,

1326
01:40:09.319 --> 01:40:13.760
to me, that's what that's what
kicked off the modern in the modern pandemic

1327
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:17.079
scare porn. And then you had
this, you know, the supposed swine

1328
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.760
flu that was going to kill everybody
in the seventies and actually more people died

1329
01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:26.520
of their magic juice than died of
the actual virus itself. You know,

1330
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:30.039
in terms of this latest I mean, Zica was Zica was a bunch of

1331
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:35.600
bullshit because that that that was supposedly
going to directly affect my practice area and

1332
01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:41.560
where I was practicing when that was
at its peak, we would have had

1333
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:46.000
those babies. I'd never ever saw
a baby tested positive for Zeca virus,

1334
01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:50.600
so I'm not that that to me
was a crop. Well, this latest

1335
01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:55.279
thing with the good I was just
going to say, another fun threat during

1336
01:40:55.399 --> 01:41:00.239
the cycles of threat was that Ebola
was going to come and get us any

1337
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:02.319
times. Yeah, I haven't heard
it from it Bola in a while.

1338
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:05.399
The Bola virus has been out of
the headlines. I think that fell out

1339
01:41:05.439 --> 01:41:10.479
of favor. But real quick,
just as a reference, real quick,

1340
01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.479
just as a reference, I guess
who was on this show, Jessica Rose.

1341
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:18.479
Uh. Doctor Jessica Rose is constantly
writing on substack about the different developments

1342
01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:24.880
regarding the uh you know, the
variance of the the the the COVID whatever

1343
01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:28.920
whatever you want to call it.
Uh. She is constantly putting out up

1344
01:41:28.960 --> 01:41:32.039
to date information and research on her
substack, which I've now posted a link

1345
01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:36.720
to in the o'celli chat room as
well. So sorry, and you actually

1346
01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:40.000
you were on that show with Jessica
Rose one of them, weren't you?

1347
01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:42.640
Yeah? Yeah, okay, Yeah, I've talked to her. I've talked

1348
01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:46.119
to her his plice. Yeah.
I mean, the only the only question

1349
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:51.640
I have remaining on COVID is did
it accidentally escape or was it purposely released?

1350
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:57.159
And I'm honestly leaning toward the fact
that it was purposely purposely released.

1351
01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:01.439
Yeah, I can't independently from that. And the thing with a Bola and

1352
01:42:01.479 --> 01:42:04.199
the reason why that's going to drop
out of it, they're going to give

1353
01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:08.960
up on that. A virus like
ebola is never going to become a pandemic.

1354
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:13.680
It's too fatal. And that's the
reason why they were able to pull

1355
01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:17.520
off the COVID crap because when when
you have a virus, I mean,

1356
01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:21.880
ebola has something I mean true,
a bola has something like a ridiculous fatality

1357
01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.119
rate. Yeah, because before it
can escape, well let me let me

1358
01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:29.079
put this in Layman's terms, if
you don't mind, before it can escape

1359
01:42:29.119 --> 01:42:34.039
an area and spread, what happens
is people die so fast that it literally

1360
01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:40.640
contains itself. You can't get the
disease to go further than a certain amount

1361
01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:47.000
of time unless somebody intentionally weaponized and
launched it. You say, yeah,

1362
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:49.720
that would be that would be how
it would have to have to happen.

1363
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:53.720
Yeah, I mean because you die
literally, I think, what is it,

1364
01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:57.560
like, seventy two hours is the
maximum you get to live if you

1365
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:00.600
get in with this thing? I
forget. It's pretty bad. Yeah,

1366
01:43:00.680 --> 01:43:04.920
I mean it's pretty bad. It's
within five days. I think most most

1367
01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:10.880
people die. Yeah again Layman here, but I'm just saying, similar to

1368
01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:15.079
Marburg. Similar to Marburg. So
there you have it. I mean,

1369
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:19.319
so it kills too quickly. I'm
sorry, No, I was just gonna

1370
01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:21.880
say, it just kills too quickly. So that's why a bola is not

1371
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:27.680
useful as a big global threat,
because it would just it would come in

1372
01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:31.039
it would crash, it would kill
in an area and be done. But

1373
01:43:31.159 --> 01:43:34.680
this kind of thing, you linger, and it hangs on the idea behind

1374
01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:38.960
this, which is how you can
say, look, it's everywhere now,

1375
01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:42.520
so don't leave your house, you
know, and if you get it,

1376
01:43:42.680 --> 01:43:45.439
you might not even feel like you
got it everything else. So now you're

1377
01:43:45.520 --> 01:43:48.560
questioning every cold and sniffle. And
I mean, look, I don't know

1378
01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:54.680
anybody honestly that wasn't a little guilty
of wondering if they caught it the second

1379
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:58.119
their nose dripped or something. You
know, they had a little something that

1380
01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:00.840
they would have written off his allergies
long ago, and they're going, oh

1381
01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:03.159
god, you know, is that
COVID? And if they weren't doing it,

1382
01:44:03.279 --> 01:44:05.840
people around them were. Like I
said, when I went out to

1383
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:10.840
a store when the masking thing really
took hold, which did not last in

1384
01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:14.359
Georgia long at all. But I
went to a store with Frankie and I'm

1385
01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:18.159
standing there and I like coughed and
didn't think about any of this, and

1386
01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:25.239
and somebody jumped, like did a
weird kind of like acrobatic jump to get

1387
01:44:25.319 --> 01:44:30.039
out of the way of me coughing. Standing online at a circle k right,

1388
01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:32.800
and I was like, oh,
look, I'm sorry, but I'm

1389
01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:38.560
a smoker. I coughed, you
know smoker's cough. No, it's not

1390
01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:42.680
it's not the rona. Okay,
like I have been an announcement. I

1391
01:44:42.800 --> 01:44:45.119
was a store. You go good. I was. I was. I

1392
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:49.000
was in scrubs one day, I
was getting I was filling up my gas

1393
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:51.920
tank coming home from work, and
I had some moron yelling at me for

1394
01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:56.359
wearing scrubs outside of a hospital because
I was going to spread COVID. Right,

1395
01:44:56.479 --> 01:45:00.479
So I said to me, let
me hug you left, hug you.

1396
01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:02.680
That's that's hilarious. Give me a
hut. Come on, come on,

1397
01:45:02.760 --> 01:45:06.880
give me a hug. Fair enough. It was a hero. Yeah.

1398
01:45:06.960 --> 01:45:11.159
Wait, wait, aren't they supposed
to be banging pots on their balconies

1399
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:15.279
for you because you're wearing scrubs?
Or that was the other weird Yeah,

1400
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:19.119
okay. You know when I when
I tell people I'm in medicine, my

1401
01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:24.600
next comment is say place they please
don't hold it against me, right,

1402
01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:28.479
I mean, you realize when I
make these comments about and I say it

1403
01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:33.319
all the time, that the Captain
Tripps is practically the only literal medical practitioner

1404
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:39.319
that I trust in the world,
uh, like the only one outside of

1405
01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:42.640
like, you know, I I
trust what Jessica Rose is putting out because

1406
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:46.680
I've checked through it. But I'm
saying somebody actually know personally that's it.

1407
01:45:47.399 --> 01:45:51.520
I don't forget it anybody else says
their doctor anything. I mean, Dennis

1408
01:45:51.560 --> 01:45:56.239
are very necessary though, because another
thing to put in context with the Spanish

1409
01:45:56.279 --> 01:46:00.039
flute thing is that you take a
look at the commonality of declarations of death,

1410
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:05.800
which is studying death certificates for a
while. I did that as part

1411
01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:13.079
of when I was training myself regarding
medical legal autopsy. Okay, And there

1412
01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:15.479
was a time period in which in
the Greek brought this up. He's the

1413
01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:18.119
only person I've ever heard of bring
it up on the Ocellian the Greek rated

1414
01:46:18.159 --> 01:46:21.000
Why thing we do? He said, you know, there was a time

1415
01:46:21.079 --> 01:46:27.039
period there, like I was talking
about how heart failure is the constant refrain

1416
01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:30.520
of cause of death during a certain
time period, and he said, yeah,

1417
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:34.279
but look back at this other time
period you'll see that it's all connected

1418
01:46:34.359 --> 01:46:41.560
to dental problems. And he was
correct. There's a whole bunch of topic.

1419
01:46:42.560 --> 01:46:45.199
Yeah, there's a time period where
yeah, it was one of the

1420
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:53.560
most common things is you died from
either infections from you know, bad a

1421
01:46:53.600 --> 01:46:57.439
tooth goes bad to get an infection
in the mouth. There was other toxicities

1422
01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.319
linked to tooth decay, uh,
you know, like the swallowing or inhaling

1423
01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.960
of a tooth, which causes damage
that winds up bleeding to somebody's death.

1424
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:12.199
Super common for like a decade and
a half in the twentieth century one of

1425
01:47:12.279 --> 01:47:15.439
the most common causes of death listed. And he was right. And I

1426
01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:18.199
didn't even realize that even though I
had looked back at the history for a

1427
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:23.119
while, because I was more stunned
with the idea that everybody dies of a

1428
01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:26.640
heart attack. But anyway, go
ahead, trips, well, think think

1429
01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:29.079
think of it. Think of it
this way. What's what's you know,

1430
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:32.199
short of short of IV, what's
the quickest way to get something into the

1431
01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:35.279
body sublingually? Right, you know, under the tongue, you know,

1432
01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:39.520
and so you know, if you
got to if you've got a mouth swimming

1433
01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:43.319
with pathogenic by bacteria, it's it
can go right into your bloodstreams. You

1434
01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:45.399
know. If you have people that
have had heart replaced heartfil replacements, you

1435
01:47:45.720 --> 01:47:48.239
you know, before you have dental
any type of dental work, you have

1436
01:47:48.279 --> 01:47:51.479
to go onto an antibiotic for I
think it's seventy two hours and a look.

1437
01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:55.479
But you know, you go into
an antibiotic prior to getting an eating

1438
01:47:55.520 --> 01:47:58.960
done in your mouth just because you
know it's it's a direct route right into

1439
01:47:58.960 --> 01:48:01.439
the bloodstream, right. So yeah, no, he is, he is

1440
01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:03.880
correct about that. No, and
it causes all I mean, and I've

1441
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:09.640
you know, been through several abscesses
in my mouth and stuff like that because

1442
01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:14.439
I've had broken and bad teeth.
But it is it is very likely one

1443
01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:18.000
of the that that'll probably be my
likely cause of death when it comes around,

1444
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.880
is a bad tooth will probably kill
me, which is weird. But

1445
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:26.479
but it'll be attributed to a heart
attack still because that's still one of the

1446
01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:32.199
most common things. They either have
respiratory failure or a heart attack basically some

1447
01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:39.359
sort of a form of uh yeah, you know it. It basically is

1448
01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:43.159
is the heart stopped? Is the
description one way or another. There's a

1449
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.560
couple of different ways they phrase it, but I mean, and to me,

1450
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:49.119
it's like that's the effect, that's
not the cause. I always find

1451
01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:54.319
that to be one of the most
lazy things on a coroner's report or on

1452
01:48:54.640 --> 01:48:58.439
the you know, on the autopsy
report, when they attribute it to heart

1453
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:01.560
failure, because that's usually not the
price. It's like, that's what occurred

1454
01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:08.359
after something else went wrong in my
mind. Well, you know, you

1455
01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:11.239
know, a lot, a lot
of the problem, a lot of the

1456
01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:14.920
problem with that is just how you
fill out death certificates. It is such

1457
01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:17.000
a and it varies from state to
state. But I don't do them in

1458
01:49:17.079 --> 01:49:20.399
Florida. I did them. I
did them up north, and it is

1459
01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:25.159
it is so convoluted the way you
have to write it, and you actually

1460
01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:29.680
steal out a death certificate that you
know, if you haven't done them,

1461
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:31.560
they don't make any sense, and
if you're new at doing them, and

1462
01:49:31.640 --> 01:49:38.600
nobody checks them, so half of
them are wrong anyway. Right, And

1463
01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:41.520
here's the funny part and a scary
thing that a lot of people don't know.

1464
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:46.520
But in the majority of h different
uh what would we call them,

1465
01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:54.319
you know, in different places locations
in uh, in different places where you

1466
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:59.319
you're you are the authority, where
you're the coroner per se. In the

1467
01:49:59.439 --> 01:50:03.119
United States, the majority of them
don't even require you to actually be a

1468
01:50:03.279 --> 01:50:08.560
doctor. In order to be a
corner. I don't know if people know

1469
01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:11.960
this, but uh, you know, I mean literally, if you have

1470
01:50:12.039 --> 01:50:15.800
somebody who is a medical examiner or
a corner, they may not be medically

1471
01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:20.479
trained even which is a really bizarre
thing. Or if they are, it's

1472
01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:27.159
very minimal. Uh. They don't
require doctors to feel so it's a weird

1473
01:50:27.239 --> 01:50:30.720
thing. It is a very weird
thing. So yeah, death certificates,

1474
01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:33.840
uh should be red with a grain
of salt. I'm just just telling you

1475
01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:39.199
at all times anyway, Sorry about
that. I just and COVID point and

1476
01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:42.239
COVID pointed that out. How many
people died of a diet in a car

1477
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:45.119
accident, but they you know,
they swapped them for for COVID and you

1478
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:49.000
supposedly found a positive PCR and listened
COVID is the death. Yeah, and

1479
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:54.279
that sounds completely insane. Anything else, but it sounds completely insane. I

1480
01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:57.199
mean, trips, you gotta be
you gotta be honest subjectively, right,

1481
01:50:57.319 --> 01:51:00.760
that sounds totally crazy. But again, I experience with reading these things,

1482
01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:05.199
and also, like you pointed out, knowing how they're filled out, I

1483
01:51:05.319 --> 01:51:10.000
am now not surprised that there are
you know, Yeah, Okay, car

1484
01:51:10.079 --> 01:51:14.640
accident turns into a COVID death.
I'm not surprised at all based on the

1485
01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:16.239
fact that, Yeah, I got
to think back to when I had to

1486
01:51:16.319 --> 01:51:21.560
learn about how that was done.
I guarantee you I'm better qualified as a

1487
01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:26.600
corner than half of the corners in
the country. I guarantee it. And

1488
01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:30.680
I'm legally blind and have a high
school diploma, and I guarantee you I

1489
01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:34.359
could do better then half of the
people you have out there writing up death

1490
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:39.399
certificates. Anyway, Sorry, it
would not surprise me. It would not

1491
01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:43.399
surprise me. So let me let
me break into here real quick. Oh

1492
01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.000
yeah, b PTE, sure,
yeah, let me break in here real

1493
01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:49.560
quick. I've got to head down
the road and we're getting ready to start

1494
01:51:49.640 --> 01:51:51.960
rolling here big time. So I
just wanted to, you know, say

1495
01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.239
thanks to everybody for calling in.
Captain Trips, Jim, James, Chris.

1496
01:51:58.560 --> 01:52:00.840
I hope to see you next week, hopefully I won't have this heck

1497
01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:03.640
of your schedule. But before I
leave, I want y'all to forget,

1498
01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:08.000
you know, the forgotten virus that
we don't think about, and that's the

1499
01:52:08.079 --> 01:52:13.520
hunt of virus. Never heard anything
about that? Yeah, so do you

1500
01:52:13.640 --> 01:52:15.520
guys? Have a great night,
and we will catch you next week and

1501
01:52:16.920 --> 01:52:20.359
go to a Chelli dot com and
that donate button. I do appreciate that.

1502
01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.199
Thank you be Pete my coast on
Friday nights, and that that makes

1503
01:52:25.439 --> 01:52:29.119
Captain Trips my default co host for
the remainder. Uh. But anyway,

1504
01:52:29.199 --> 01:52:30.760
I have put I have to put
everybody on hold, so I'll leave it

1505
01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:34.920
up to you Trips. Uh.
I think we only have let's just double

1506
01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:39.399
check here. I think we have
Chris and Jimmy James still on the line.

1507
01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:42.319
Now. We could let them loose
both at the same time, but

1508
01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:45.319
I would prefer that we let Jimmy
on first. Or whatever it is you

1509
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:49.000
want to do. You want to
take it in another direction on A shout

1510
01:52:49.039 --> 01:52:53.279
out to the hantavirus is not sorry, a shout out to the haunt of

1511
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:57.279
virus. It's not how I want
to end the show for sure, So

1512
01:52:57.399 --> 01:53:01.199
let's go in another direction. What
do you think? I agree? Yeah,

1513
01:53:01.239 --> 01:53:04.560
And actually I think hunted. Hunted
is another one of those viruses that

1514
01:53:04.720 --> 01:53:10.520
is so is so damn fatal,
the mortality so high that it's very similar

1515
01:53:10.600 --> 01:53:14.199
to ebola. It's it's gonna it's
gonna localize and it's gonna kill too many

1516
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:16.880
people that ever really spread. Right, But I agree with you. We

1517
01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:19.800
had not heard from Jimmy for a
while, so I would say bring it

1518
01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:24.239
on exactly. So let's hear from
Jimmy James. But you know, I'll

1519
01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:29.319
remind people again that movie Outbreak with
Dustin Hoffman. Uh yeah, I think

1520
01:53:29.399 --> 01:53:31.359
they discussed the Haunta virus in there. Not a lot of detail, but

1521
01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:35.319
enough for you to know that.
Again, it's something that Outbreak would be

1522
01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:40.680
easy to control. All you'd have
to do with minimal containment, I mean,

1523
01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:44.319
as sad as it is, is
just keep it to a restricted area

1524
01:53:44.399 --> 01:53:46.880
for a minute and it won't go
far. I mean, it's just that

1525
01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:53.840
simple. You're either dead or not. That's it. And yeah it doesn't,

1526
01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:57.399
it doesn't hang out for very long. But then again, pathogens,

1527
01:53:57.439 --> 01:54:00.960
to my knowledge, you know,
they are that way until they do change,

1528
01:54:00.119 --> 01:54:05.720
and they often change over time,
right, they they do. But

1529
01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:12.520
the trick is the key. The
key to remember with that is it's always

1530
01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:18.079
an inverse relationship. So if the
virus, so the pathogen becomes more effective,

1531
01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:23.359
it also becomes less virulent, which
is actually what you saw with COVID,

1532
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:29.520
right, You know, as it
becomes it spreads more easily, and

1533
01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:32.239
as it spreads more easily, it
loses it, It loses its virulent So

1534
01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:36.560
the you know, each actual true
case of someone who has the virus and

1535
01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:42.399
is sick tends to be milder as
the virus becomes more infectious. That was

1536
01:54:42.479 --> 01:54:45.000
what you know. That's why a
lot of people, including myself, think

1537
01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:50.079
that omicron was a direct lab creation, right as if as if to say

1538
01:54:50.199 --> 01:54:54.960
it was started, it was thrown. It was thrown into the mix to

1539
01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:59.840
be less virulent and spread more easily. And funny thing about great most of

1540
01:54:59.880 --> 01:55:03.399
the sorry. A funny thing about
science fiction though, is often when you

1541
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:10.359
see the common cold reintroduced after it's
been defeated among humanity, whenever you see

1542
01:55:10.399 --> 01:55:12.439
it come back, people talk about, well, this is going to be

1543
01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:15.119
lethal and fatal. Indeed, I
think that would be the case, is

1544
01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:20.079
if the cold was sort of eliminated
for a while and no longer in circulation

1545
01:55:20.920 --> 01:55:26.119
when it got reintroduced back to the
human organism, I think that it would

1546
01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:31.159
be fatal, almost like ebola,
where you know, you'd probably get overwhelmed

1547
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:34.680
completely, not be able to breathe
and suffocate. The death from a common

1548
01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:40.479
cold if it's been removed from circulation
for I don't know, a century,

1549
01:55:40.640 --> 01:55:45.119
two centuries, not sure how long. But if it got reintroduced, especially

1550
01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:48.039
in its old form, our systems
wouldn't be prepared for it, and boom,

1551
01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:53.159
it would be lethal, you know. And you see that in science

1552
01:55:53.199 --> 01:55:58.000
fiction, not only Star Trek,
but I mean everything from Futurama to other

1553
01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:03.319
dystopian things where the common cold gets
it's reintroduced into the population. One wonders

1554
01:56:03.359 --> 01:56:05.960
if somebody doesn't have a long term
plan about that, you know, take

1555
01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:12.800
away a disease that people were prepared
for for a while, you know,

1556
01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:17.159
and then you have yourself a wonderful
biological weapon, you know, a couple

1557
01:56:17.199 --> 01:56:20.720
of generations from now. And for
those of you that think you're going to

1558
01:56:20.760 --> 01:56:26.279
live forever because of you know,
transhumanist technology, hey, maybe you could

1559
01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:29.840
hang around long enough to wipe out
a whole lot of us useless eaters.

1560
01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:33.119
Huh. Anyway, Jimmy James should
be back on the line. Jimmy,

1561
01:56:33.159 --> 01:56:41.399
you're there, I'm here. Great, So we're going over time a little,

1562
01:56:41.479 --> 01:56:46.199
so you have time. Go ahead, all right, what's opracrime?

1563
01:56:47.039 --> 01:56:53.159
What did you say about oprachrime.
What is that again? So omicron was

1564
01:56:53.239 --> 01:56:59.359
the was the supposed COVID variant that
came out that was first first recognized in

1565
01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:05.760
I want to say it was November
twenty twenty one, and it looks and

1566
01:57:06.199 --> 01:57:10.039
you've had you've had quite a few
researchers that have actually looked at all the

1567
01:57:10.119 --> 01:57:14.960
sequences that state that that's what they
think too, that it was definitely a

1568
01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:19.039
lab created. It was lab created
to be more infect more infectious, and

1569
01:57:19.199 --> 01:57:23.760
less virulent. Because if you notice, that's when you stopped hearing about the

1570
01:57:23.800 --> 01:57:29.560
COVID deaths was once the omicron strain
took hold. Everybody was getting the damn

1571
01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:31.600
thing and the majority of the people
that were getting it one didn't know they

1572
01:57:31.720 --> 01:57:35.600
had it, and the ones that
did have symptoms were having very mild cold

1573
01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:40.840
like symptoms to at worst a case
of the flu. Was that before or

1574
01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:45.720
after the delta variant? That was
after delta delta? Okay, yes,

1575
01:57:45.960 --> 01:57:50.600
it's hard to keep it. Yeah, in my mind, it's been so

1576
01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:57.560
long I blocked out that will quoint
will be the piece of history that except

1577
01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:05.359
naming each part of the supposed disease
mm hmm, yeah, one right,

1578
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:10.399
I was gonna just say, the
great majority of the variants came from the

1579
01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:15.439
fact that they tried to vaccinate in
the middle of a pandemic, which you

1580
01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:18.439
know that you have, you had
quite a few, You had quite a

1581
01:58:18.479 --> 01:58:21.720
few people that knew what they were
talking about and said that that there could

1582
01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:25.880
you don't there's not a worse idea
than trying to vaccinate and know of a

1583
01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:32.680
pandemic. And very similar to how
you have antibiotic resistant bacteria, virus just

1584
01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:38.079
adapts and it, you know,
it escapes, it escapes whatever whatever ridiculous

1585
01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:42.600
immunity that you may have gotten from
that that poison that they were sticking into

1586
01:58:42.640 --> 01:58:45.720
people, and it just caused it
just caused a variance fact very basically.

1587
01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:49.840
Well, see, that's the other
strange thing is I thought that that would

1588
01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:56.000
have been the consensus regarding people because
remember, I'm a guy who is very

1589
01:58:56.359 --> 01:59:00.479
very leary of anything they call a
vaccination and right, but you don't have

1590
01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:03.479
to be an anti VAXX person to
sit there and go, wait a minute,

1591
01:59:04.199 --> 01:59:10.880
this doesn't fit the rules that you
people said were absolute for the longest

1592
01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:14.600
time. And I don't mean you
Captain Tripps, but I do mean are

1593
01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:17.680
the people that were supportive of vaccinations, the people that swore up and down

1594
01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:21.119
you needed your flu shots, all
of that. It seems to me as

1595
01:59:21.159 --> 01:59:29.319
though the common you know, wisdom
among them would have said, you can't

1596
01:59:29.560 --> 01:59:33.880
do this in the midst of this
thing being loose and spreading, because if

1597
01:59:33.920 --> 01:59:40.600
you do, you're going to almost
ensure that there will develop not in every

1598
01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:44.640
patient, but you'll even if you
take all the science and face value and

1599
01:59:44.680 --> 01:59:47.279
you say you believe in it all
and you're with it all, you're almost

1600
01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:54.159
ensuring that there will be new mutations
of this because at some point they will

1601
01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:59.640
resist the vaccination and through that resistance, I mean this happened with pneumonia,

1602
02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:03.680
where pneumonia became more fatal because of
the overuse of antibiotics. In my mind,

1603
02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:10.119
nobody seems to claim that that's true, although they are starting to admit,

1604
02:00:10.199 --> 02:00:12.680
you know, maybe we overdid it
with the antibiotics in the population,

1605
02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:17.880
But nobody's saying straight out that they
caused more cases of pneumonia or more fatal

1606
02:00:17.960 --> 02:00:27.119
cases of pneumonia by over prescribing antibiotics
for decades. But it seems to me

1607
02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:30.560
as though that was the result.
It's not even it's not even the prescription

1608
02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:34.079
antibiotics, but it's all the antibiotics
that are in the food. Well,

1609
02:00:34.159 --> 02:00:38.520
that's the thing is if you have
a full spectrum antibiotic and now you have

1610
02:00:38.600 --> 02:00:42.560
a pneumonia that broke through all that, and you've been getting your antibiotics for

1611
02:00:43.199 --> 02:00:45.920
Oh, I have an itch in
my ear, here's an antibiotic. I

1612
02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:47.960
have an itch on my skin.
Here's another one. Plus you're eating and

1613
02:00:48.039 --> 02:00:53.640
drinking them because the animal products are
loaded with them. If you have all

1614
02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:58.640
that coming together and you get pneumonia, kinda says to me that pneumonia is

1615
02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:02.159
resistant to the antibiotics that you have
flowing in your system. Now, maybe

1616
02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:08.760
that's me over simplifying things, but
it says that now you have an antibiotic

1617
02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.520
resistant pneumonia. And by the way, I'm somebody who came up with an

1618
02:01:12.640 --> 02:01:16.840
antibiotic resistant pneumonia at some point,
because I've had pneumonia about six or seven

1619
02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:23.359
times in my life now when I
had it as a teenager or even earlier,

1620
02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:26.319
once as a small kid, but
once as a teenager, and it

1621
02:01:26.399 --> 02:01:30.159
all came from poor living conditions and
bad ventilation. But the truth is that

1622
02:01:31.319 --> 02:01:35.359
that was not resistant. They were
able to fight it with the antibiotics.

1623
02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:40.800
I got a little older, and
the same thing happened to me. They

1624
02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:45.640
gave me virtually the same antibiotics and
got zero results, and then I had

1625
02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:49.640
to go through a bunch of them
before any of them worked personally, And

1626
02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:54.119
it seems to me as though that's
not an uncommon it's not a special Ocelli

1627
02:01:54.199 --> 02:01:58.479
reaction. It seems to me to
be a common issue. Now, you've

1628
02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:03.680
treated many cases in pnemonia UH with
infants. I bet because it's probably one

1629
02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:10.680
of the more common ailments that a
lot of critical babies come up with,

1630
02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:14.560
because breathing is one of the biggest
issues in early life. I mean,

1631
02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:16.000
I could be wrong, Go ahead. It is no, no, no,

1632
02:02:16.199 --> 02:02:19.039
you're absolutely The one thing you have
to remember about pneumonia pneumonia, believe

1633
02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:23.560
it or not, is that not
not the disease itself. Pneumonia is actually

1634
02:02:23.640 --> 02:02:27.600
a result. So basically what pneumonia
is that you basically have a consolidation in

1635
02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:30.640
your lung right, So whether it's
coming you have you know, a virus

1636
02:02:30.680 --> 02:02:35.439
can cause pneumonia, bacteria can cause
p amumonia. So you know, people

1637
02:02:35.560 --> 02:02:40.279
you tend to we tend to use
the term pneumonia as as like a blanket

1638
02:02:40.439 --> 02:02:43.079
term. But you also have to
have to look at what's causing the moonia.

1639
02:02:43.159 --> 02:02:45.560
But what you're saying about the antibiotics
is absolutely correct. And yes,

1640
02:02:45.680 --> 02:02:51.479
I've treated talentless cases of pneumonia and
yeah, but what you're saying about the

1641
02:02:51.600 --> 02:02:56.640
and it does make perfect sense that
first exposure to an antibiotic is most likely

1642
02:02:56.720 --> 02:03:00.159
going to take care of it.
And if your first case of ammonia was

1643
02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:03.319
you know, bacterial on ammonia was
as a teenager and you weren't exposed to

1644
02:03:03.399 --> 02:03:06.680
these things in great number. But
as you know, as you get older,

1645
02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:10.319
the more antibiotics you get in your
system. And it's not just that,

1646
02:03:10.479 --> 02:03:15.159
it's just the bacteria themselves have you
know, have have have adapted to

1647
02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:19.239
get around they they've you know,
when when I look at you know,

1648
02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:21.960
if I get a if I have
a blood culture for instance, you know,

1649
02:03:23.079 --> 02:03:26.359
we also get we get a blood
culture and then you know, usually

1650
02:03:26.399 --> 02:03:29.600
you find out in twenty four to
forty eight hours if something is growing,

1651
02:03:30.159 --> 02:03:32.920
and then generally by seventy two hours
you get a report back of what the

1652
02:03:33.039 --> 02:03:42.039
actual bacteria is and also what antibiotics
is resistant or susceptible to. And yeah,

1653
02:03:42.159 --> 02:03:45.239
I mean you see I've seen you
see some of these some of these

1654
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.359
bacterial infections that you're not going to
use a common antibiotics for. I mean,

1655
02:03:48.399 --> 02:03:51.520
you're talking about you You're you're talking
about really big guy. You know,

1656
02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:56.640
have had to use some really big
gun antibiotics in in uh in daties

1657
02:03:57.399 --> 02:04:01.960
for for resistant bacteria. Right.
But as a grown person, you know,

1658
02:04:02.239 --> 02:04:06.920
it was like very common, very
very close something you know, one

1659
02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:12.399
of the miasins, something very close
to like you know, a penicillin was

1660
02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:15.119
effective. Now they had to give
it to me by IV, but it

1661
02:04:15.239 --> 02:04:19.319
was effective. Later on they try
giving me, you know, the same

1662
02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:24.960
conditions apply and they try giving me
that again and it does nothing. So

1663
02:04:25.119 --> 02:04:27.319
then they step it up and it
does nothing. And the next thing I

1664
02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:31.159
know is I can only get this
thing via a shot because it's you know,

1665
02:04:31.279 --> 02:04:33.680
one of these more controlled antibiotics.
I mean, at one point,

1666
02:04:34.279 --> 02:04:39.720
roseepan was one of them that they
were shooting me up with, and it

1667
02:04:39.840 --> 02:04:42.800
was like, yeah, that's not
quite working either. They had to go

1668
02:04:42.880 --> 02:04:47.560
a step further, you know,
And meanwhile, my lungs are okay,

1669
02:04:47.640 --> 02:04:51.920
I have a little bit of scarring. But my lungs are in remarkably good

1670
02:04:51.960 --> 02:05:00.199
shape considering the fact that I've been
smoking for forty years and and indeed pad

1671
02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:03.600
pneumonia several times. So I have
some scar tissue in my lungs now.

1672
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:11.399
But anyway, I have a question
about these ant about some garbage food.

1673
02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:15.800
Yes, my understanding, if you
cook this thing right, well, as

1674
02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:18.119
you cook it thoroughly, that junk
shuit stoopy in there? Should it?

1675
02:05:19.399 --> 02:05:24.079
Well, here's the problem, right
milk? I honestly don't know the answer

1676
02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:27.720
to that question. Well, here's
the problem milk most I mean, you

1677
02:05:27.840 --> 02:05:31.960
might cook milk sometimes, but most
times you don't cook milk. And there's

1678
02:05:32.199 --> 02:05:36.079
definitely antibiotics present in a lot of
milk based on the way the dairy industry

1679
02:05:36.960 --> 02:05:42.039
handles its cow. Uh. So
there's that. Eggs. Eggs is eggs

1680
02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:45.920
is another one. If you if
you're buying eggs that are you kind of

1681
02:05:46.119 --> 02:05:48.840
you know, standard eggs will call
them as opposed to you know, better

1682
02:05:48.920 --> 02:05:53.479
free range organic eggs. Yeah,
and eggs eggs aren't cooked at all.

1683
02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:58.119
So if the chickens are getting antibiotics, you are probably getting exposed to it

1684
02:05:58.199 --> 02:06:01.600
through eggs. A cooking it.
That's honestly, Jimmyjims, I don't know

1685
02:06:01.640 --> 02:06:04.279
the answer to that question. It
is a good question that I do not

1686
02:06:04.399 --> 02:06:08.520
have the ag Yeah, I'm not
sure on that either, but I will

1687
02:06:08.600 --> 02:06:12.520
tell you this, I cannot eat
and for the past ten fifteen years,

1688
02:06:13.279 --> 02:06:17.279
I can't eat regular eggs. If
I want to use an egg, I

1689
02:06:17.479 --> 02:06:21.159
have to go for the high priced
free range. You know, we don't

1690
02:06:21.199 --> 02:06:27.239
use any antibiotics in our chickens eggs, otherwise I get an allergic reaction.

1691
02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:32.680
So I've developed what they call an
egg allergy. Now since I'm like well,

1692
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:36.239
actually about twelve years around the time
I turned forty, all of a

1693
02:06:36.279 --> 02:06:42.439
sudden I was allergic to eggs and
not sure why. I never was,

1694
02:06:43.560 --> 02:06:45.319
you know, eggs used to be
a staple part of my diet actually,

1695
02:06:45.840 --> 02:06:48.119
but at a certain point, I
don't know. And if I try to

1696
02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:51.520
eat, you know, common eggs, every once in a while, I

1697
02:06:51.600 --> 02:06:56.359
will risk and go through the allergic
reaction to get an egg McMuffin because for

1698
02:06:56.439 --> 02:07:00.199
some reason, I don't know,
they just represent comfort food to me,

1699
02:07:00.239 --> 02:07:05.079
egg mcmuffins, you know. But
honestly, anytime I try to eat a

1700
02:07:05.119 --> 02:07:10.720
standard egg or somebody uses. Even
if missus O bakes a cake, I

1701
02:07:12.000 --> 02:07:14.960
tell her she's got to go get
the you know, expensive ass eggs,

1702
02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:17.920
because I can't eat anything with one
of those eggs in it, no matter

1703
02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:21.760
how you cook it, mix it. If it's got egg product, it

1704
02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:25.960
has to be the high grade eggs, the free range, you know,

1705
02:07:26.399 --> 02:07:30.239
organic all that. And by the
way, not all organic eggs, even

1706
02:07:30.439 --> 02:07:36.039
some organic eggs like Walmart has an
organic egg and whatever they call organic,

1707
02:07:36.119 --> 02:07:41.279
you gotta really check and see what
they mean by that because they might you

1708
02:07:41.319 --> 02:07:44.159
know, they might not shoot them
up with anything, but what are they

1709
02:07:44.199 --> 02:07:48.359
feeding them? And literally, if
they're feeding them non organic crap, well,

1710
02:07:48.399 --> 02:07:51.199
then indeed, I'm now taking in
whatever it is. And I don't

1711
02:07:51.239 --> 02:07:57.399
know if that's all based on the
hormones or the antibiotics or what, but

1712
02:07:57.560 --> 02:07:59.800
I know that if I go for
eggs, I gotta go for the more

1713
02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:03.359
ones, which you're cleaner. It's
just that simple. Yeah, And that's

1714
02:08:03.399 --> 02:08:07.359
been a weird thing so food,
And it's a weird thing to ask about

1715
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:13.319
the cooking because cooking kills microbes and
it kills worms, you know, especially

1716
02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:16.880
when you're talking about pork and stuff
like that. Which I don't eat pork

1717
02:08:16.920 --> 02:08:20.960
anymore. But the thing is that
if you eat pork, you definitely got

1718
02:08:20.079 --> 02:08:24.920
to cook it well, because otherwise
you're asking for worms. But other than

1719
02:08:24.960 --> 02:08:28.880
that, I don't know if you
can actually kill off the antibiotics by cooking

1720
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:33.079
them. I mean, it might
change them. It's a good question,

1721
02:08:33.319 --> 02:08:35.880
It's a really good question. And
there's that that also raises the question if

1722
02:08:37.560 --> 02:08:41.560
if cooking is changing the antibiotics,
is it is that Is that chemical reaction

1723
02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:45.479
in and of itself causing the problem. I don't know. You're right,

1724
02:08:45.520 --> 02:08:48.479
because it doesn't make Let's just say
it does change it, but doesn't destroy

1725
02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:54.520
it completely. What is the effect
of eating the partially destroyed antibiotics? And

1726
02:08:54.640 --> 02:08:58.680
has anybody done a study on that? I I asked that question all the

1727
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:03.159
time, Well where is the stuffy
right? And most times you'll find that

1728
02:09:03.279 --> 02:09:07.399
there's either been no study or there's
some piece of data that was collected,

1729
02:09:07.479 --> 02:09:09.840
you know, on the side of
something else. It just so happens that

1730
02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:13.880
we collected this piece of data.
But you know, take a look at

1731
02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:18.560
the controls and everything else. You
might not have a solid study being done

1732
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:20.520
on the question you're asking. But
it's a good thing to look into.

1733
02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:24.359
I think it's worthy of looking into. Actually we should look into what is

1734
02:09:24.399 --> 02:09:31.000
the effect on cooking animal products that
are you know, saturated with antibiotics.

1735
02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:35.119
I think that's a fair question.
Jimmy. Yeah, it's a very good

1736
02:09:35.119 --> 02:09:39.880
fight, and I really don't know. So before we get through with this,

1737
02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:43.960
I'm thinking that I'll bring Chris on, unless Jimmy, you got something

1738
02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:50.840
else you want to independently lay on
the table. No. Thanks b Pete

1739
02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:56.239
for checking up on that Dorothy Hunt
thing, right, And you understood what

1740
02:09:56.279 --> 02:10:01.760
I said about Skullnick on that though, right. I mean cause I'm fair

1741
02:10:01.840 --> 02:10:03.880
to the guy, and I think
a Skulnick as as kind of like an

1742
02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:11.199
unsung hero in the JFK, you
know, research history. But I view

1743
02:10:11.279 --> 02:10:13.479
everybody, you know, I never
get into hero worship. I try to

1744
02:10:13.560 --> 02:10:18.359
view everybody as objectively as possible,
as honestly as possible. And Skulnick,

1745
02:10:18.399 --> 02:10:22.840
despite some of the great, you
know, advances he was able to make

1746
02:10:22.920 --> 02:10:28.640
with limited resources, in some cases, he still made some questionable assertions that

1747
02:10:28.800 --> 02:10:35.279
sometimes he didn't have very much to
back them with. You know, here

1748
02:10:35.279 --> 02:10:39.399
for a second, I actually have
to I'm gonna have to go no problem.

1749
02:10:39.399 --> 02:10:43.159
I'm gonna bid everyone good evening,
and it was a pleasure talking to

1750
02:10:43.199 --> 02:10:46.520
everyone, and we will do it
again soon, all right, absolutely,

1751
02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:50.000
thanks Captain Tripps. Of course,
Captain Trips joined us for two shows this

1752
02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:56.039
week, so uh, double duty
on the O'Kelly effect. No shows for

1753
02:10:56.119 --> 02:10:58.079
a long time, then two in
the same week, and hopefully we'll hear

1754
02:10:58.119 --> 02:11:01.720
from you some more. Brother,
have a good night you too, Take

1755
02:11:01.720 --> 02:11:05.920
care guys. By way, anyway, Jimmy, that leaves you and me,

1756
02:11:05.199 --> 02:11:11.520
and uh, let's get Chris in
on it too, okay, yep,

1757
02:11:11.239 --> 02:11:16.079
Well, so there we go as
the So I'll leave everybody on and

1758
02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:20.119
the weenie dogs might chime in,
but let's get our last words in for

1759
02:11:20.199 --> 02:11:22.880
the week unless somebody else happens to
join us. Last minute three one nine

1760
02:11:22.960 --> 02:11:26.640
five two seven five zero one six
Chris, you got anything you want to

1761
02:11:26.720 --> 02:11:33.439
toss on there or talk to Jimmy
about or whatever. I was hoping to

1762
02:11:33.640 --> 02:11:37.560
catch a last minute with Captain Tripps, but well, you know, you

1763
02:11:37.640 --> 02:11:41.039
know well that that's not gonna happen. Sorry, I didn't know he had

1764
02:11:41.079 --> 02:11:45.760
to go, and then he just
announced it as it happened, So he's

1765
02:11:45.800 --> 02:11:48.760
actually at work on call. Yeah, he's actually at work on call,

1766
02:11:48.880 --> 02:11:52.920
so who knows. It could have
been an emergency, uh for one of

1767
02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:56.119
the babies. He actually, you
know, takes care of babies that are

1768
02:11:56.279 --> 02:12:01.039
uh you know, uh, in
not critical condition need intensive care. That's

1769
02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:07.840
generally his day job. So anyway, Chris, anything you want to toss

1770
02:12:07.920 --> 02:12:15.600
in here though, No, pretty
much. I hope everybody has a great

1771
02:12:15.640 --> 02:12:20.239
week, and I appreciate your time. Uh, and I appreciate you.

1772
02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:24.520
Jimmy James, you got a final
word for the week as we have both

1773
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:31.600
lines open and uh just about ready
to close this one out. Thanks Chris

1774
02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:37.119
and Chuck. By any chancer,
you can soon have that woman the archives

1775
02:12:37.279 --> 02:12:48.560
down there, the archivist. Who
are we talking about? She's building up

1776
02:12:48.640 --> 02:12:54.720
the May Brussel stuff. She calls
herself the archivist. She's just on William

1777
02:12:54.840 --> 02:13:05.720
Ramsey's podcast, one of his newer
ones. Hmmm. Well, she's trying

1778
02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:11.439
to raise money to improve the May
Brussel's site to have an actual physical location

1779
02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:20.560
and to her the archivist. She
want Someone asked her who played the guitar

1780
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:26.319
in the first few episodes. It
was called Dialogue Assassination. That was May

1781
02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:31.600
Brussel's son. I remember her saying
that in one of the early episodes.

1782
02:13:33.199 --> 02:13:35.840
Yeah, that's true, so that
I do recall. You're correct about that

1783
02:13:35.920 --> 02:13:41.319
because I remember, yeah, the
guitar part she had her son do that.

1784
02:13:41.600 --> 02:13:45.680
You're right, but the archive is
I don't have a contact for her,

1785
02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:50.680
but she was recently on William Ramsey. Yeah, it sounds like she's

1786
02:13:50.800 --> 02:14:00.279
taking up the madle Okay, well, get the May Brussels stuff done and

1787
02:14:00.520 --> 02:14:03.640
keeps getting it. A lot of
the digital stuff is, like I guess,

1788
02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:09.079
while on its way, and they're
wanting to have an actual physical place

1789
02:14:09.239 --> 02:14:15.479
that people can go and see some
of May's material instead. Well, that

1790
02:14:15.560 --> 02:14:18.960
would be interesting. I would be
all for that, So you know what,

1791
02:14:18.039 --> 02:14:20.520
I'll get in touch with William Ramsay
and see if I can get her

1792
02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:26.239
on. I know that Lenosanek was
actually running the Maybrussel dot org site for

1793
02:14:26.319 --> 02:14:31.960
a while, and through there you
used to be able to get like a

1794
02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:35.239
spindle of CDs with eight hundred shows. I don't know if they were in

1795
02:14:35.399 --> 02:14:39.239
MP three format, I think they
were, but the eight hundred or so

1796
02:14:39.399 --> 02:14:45.159
shows you could get on CD through
that organization at one point, But I

1797
02:14:45.199 --> 02:14:48.760
don't know who's been in charge of
it, who's run it. I haven't

1798
02:14:48.840 --> 02:14:50.279
gotten myself a spindle of those seas. I don't even know how much it

1799
02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:54.319
would cost today. Probably somebody could
stick it on a thumb drive and do

1800
02:14:54.439 --> 02:14:58.800
it for twenty bucks if they wanted
to. But you know I would.

1801
02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:03.000
I would be more than happy to
get myself a copy of her radio shows,

1802
02:15:03.039 --> 02:15:07.359
the eight hundred or so that were
on MP three format that were available

1803
02:15:07.439 --> 02:15:11.199
out there. Matter of fact,
when I was on ucy dot tv,

1804
02:15:13.159 --> 02:15:18.880
uh, the owner of that network
had the the archive shows and late at

1805
02:15:18.960 --> 02:15:22.560
night, in the middle of the
night, you got h May Brussel replays

1806
02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:26.359
and Bill Cooper replays. Yeah.
Now was that a UH station, Chuck,

1807
02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:30.720
No, no, no, it
was an online thing. It was

1808
02:15:30.880 --> 02:15:37.079
ucy dot tv, like instead of
a dot net or a dot com.

1809
02:15:37.880 --> 02:15:41.399
Yeah, you know they have the
dot tv addresses instead of dot com.

1810
02:15:43.239 --> 02:15:48.920
Yeah kind of. Yeah. Well
initially, initially, yeah, initially Ucy

1811
02:15:48.119 --> 02:15:54.159
was supposed to be UH for video
podcasting, but it was so expensive to

1812
02:15:54.239 --> 02:15:56.560
host it. Uh, they went
with the audio and they wound up running

1813
02:15:56.560 --> 02:16:01.920
an audio radio network, and I
was That was the first place that I

1814
02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:05.640
was broadcast live and there were others
on there, a whole bunch of other

1815
02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:09.920
hosts, and late at night when
nobody wanted to do a show, at

1816
02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:13.840
two, three, four in the
morning, they had May Brussel and Bill

1817
02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:18.880
Cooper replay, so you get like
the ancient mystery series from Bill Cooper and

1818
02:16:18.960 --> 02:16:22.479
then it would switch over to you
know, May Brussel, and she had

1819
02:16:22.760 --> 02:16:28.279
the owner of that network had the
entire Brussel Archive that she would get you

1820
02:16:28.359 --> 02:16:31.280
know, old shows from and replay
them on there. I used to listen

1821
02:16:31.360 --> 02:16:35.399
to that late at night. And
to my understanding, there's a couple of

1822
02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:41.879
a media networks out there still,
you know, struggling out there that that

1823
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:45.840
might still do the same thing,
but I haven't run across them personally because

1824
02:16:45.840 --> 02:16:48.639
I might become a regular listener to
that network. Yeah, she said that.

1825
02:16:48.840 --> 02:16:56.520
She they're like gonna do a new
like do an update of old shows,

1826
02:16:56.760 --> 02:17:03.280
like you know update that was doing
information. So they're pretty uh and

1827
02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:11.239
ambitious in their in their goals.
I mean it's quite uh. Well,

1828
02:17:11.239 --> 02:17:16.840
if you look at the William Ramsey
podcast with the archives, well, I'll

1829
02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.840
just write to William Ramsey. I'll
just you know, I actually I actually

1830
02:17:20.840 --> 02:17:24.559
have a friendly contact with William,
so I could write to him at any

1831
02:17:24.600 --> 02:17:26.559
time. He's always been happy to
pass along contacts, and I've done the

1832
02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:30.440
same for him. Uh, him
and I have shared I don't know if

1833
02:17:30.440 --> 02:17:35.399
you ever noticed, but occasionally you'll
see a guest pop up between us similar

1834
02:17:35.040 --> 02:17:41.319
on occasion. Yeah, because I'm
at least friendly with William and him and

1835
02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:45.159
I used to be on what was
it Awake Radio together. Uh. They

1836
02:17:45.479 --> 02:17:50.120
were one of the ones that would
simulcast this show and yeah Awake, Yeah,

1837
02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:56.200
Awake Radio. It was called dude, you're about my age? You

1838
02:17:56.319 --> 02:18:01.360
do you remember on Sundays? How
Originally when we were kids in the afternoons,

1839
02:18:01.440 --> 02:18:07.760
they started out playing cowboy movies and
then they switched to karate movies because

1840
02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:15.159
karate was popular. But then right
before like Senior Citizen Golf and all that

1841
02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:22.200
garbage. There was like a few
years there were on my UHF channel,

1842
02:18:22.319 --> 02:18:28.239
we had some really interesting that's when
the good shows were on, like those

1843
02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:33.639
alternative guys that used to sit around
the table, remember, yeah, these

1844
02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:37.319
guys remember them? Yeah? Actually, I remember a lot of good stuff

1845
02:18:37.520 --> 02:18:41.399
on independent UHF channels, you know, because I was in New York,

1846
02:18:41.440 --> 02:18:48.239
New Jersey, so we had a
lot of broadcast outlets, and there there

1847
02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:52.520
was a bunch of great UHF channels. One of them was just U sixty

1848
02:18:52.600 --> 02:18:58.799
eight and they used to do music
videos late at night, back when MTV

1849
02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:01.360
stopped doing music video. I thought
that was great. But they also had

1850
02:19:01.399 --> 02:19:05.680
these weird independent shows that were always
short lived. It was sort of like

1851
02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:11.559
a step up from your local cable
access some of them. And occasionally there

1852
02:19:11.559 --> 02:19:15.399
were UHF channels that are pretty much
like they are today, you know,

1853
02:19:15.559 --> 02:19:20.399
like the uh the me TV and
you know, just just running old reruns

1854
02:19:20.440 --> 02:19:22.760
of shows like right now, you
could probably turn on one of those channels

1855
02:19:22.799 --> 02:19:28.559
and get a Gilligan's Island or Star
Trek episode from the sixties or yeah,

1856
02:19:28.600 --> 02:19:35.239
good, it turns out UHF one, because that's pretty much with digital TV

1857
02:19:35.520 --> 02:19:41.120
is UHF. Yeah. But they
took away all their signals uh the Yeah,

1858
02:19:41.200 --> 02:19:43.959
they confiscated all those signals. They
confiscated that in the CB signals,

1859
02:19:45.559 --> 02:19:52.479
uh the CD bands and now that's
all occupied. Yeah. I don't see

1860
02:19:52.520 --> 02:19:58.440
why they couldn't have kept simultaneously broadcasting. It went't a cost of them anything,

1861
02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:03.360
No, But again, you're also
old enough Jimmy James to remember the

1862
02:20:03.440 --> 02:20:09.159
days when CB broadcasts occasionally could literally
bleed over your TV channel, you know,

1863
02:20:09.280 --> 02:20:13.319
for those of us that couldn't afford
cable and we're still dealing with broadcast

1864
02:20:13.399 --> 02:20:16.680
in the eighties. And you know, guess what. You'd be sitting there

1865
02:20:16.719 --> 02:20:20.040
watching, you know, All in
the Family or something, you know,

1866
02:20:20.159 --> 02:20:22.920
rerun the Ball in the Family or
a news show at whatever, the news

1867
02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:28.920
even, and all of a sudden
a CB voice would break in and you'd

1868
02:20:28.959 --> 02:20:33.040
hear some crazy distorted echoed, you
know, coming up on ninety five and

1869
02:20:33.079 --> 02:20:39.600
there's all kinds of Messa role and
it would bleed over and literally take over

1870
02:20:39.680 --> 02:20:43.840
your TV broadcast. You remember that, Oh my friend, my friend was

1871
02:20:43.879 --> 02:20:48.840
swearing he was being tormented by a
demon. I figured out what it was.

1872
02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:54.159
It's just a tackle bell, you
know, they're ordering thing was going

1873
02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:58.200
through to where he was hearing it
on his radios to TV and crap,

1874
02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:01.840
Yeah, they're wireless close to their
wireless band. Was probably too close to

1875
02:21:01.959 --> 02:21:07.079
the band. Yeah that happened.
You know what when else that happened is

1876
02:21:07.120 --> 02:21:09.399
in the days of when everybody had
those you know, when everybody still had

1877
02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:13.520
a house phone. Is the uh
the antenna's right, remember the phones with

1878
02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:18.200
the giant antenna on them. They
literally had to like pull out the antenna

1879
02:21:18.360 --> 02:21:22.760
like it was on a radio and
you could use your cordless phone. Well

1880
02:21:22.840 --> 02:21:26.399
those were great, but here's the
problem. Uh, if you and your

1881
02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:31.920
neighbors had you know, similar motorolas, or maybe you had a radio,

1882
02:21:31.680 --> 02:21:35.559
uh that was made by the same
company, you could sometimes tune in and

1883
02:21:35.680 --> 02:21:41.520
listen to their phone conversations because of
the way it was. And they had

1884
02:21:41.559 --> 02:21:46.760
that problem with baby monitors too,
the wireless baby monitors, where you know,

1885
02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:50.440
there were people figuring out how to
listen to their neighbors and yeah,

1886
02:21:52.600 --> 02:21:58.399
that's because of ours is yeah,
the radio frequencies, right. So but

1887
02:21:58.600 --> 02:22:01.319
the thing is is that some of
the were so similar that if you had

1888
02:22:01.520 --> 02:22:05.799
a you know, a cheap ass
crystal, it might have been picking up

1889
02:22:05.840 --> 02:22:09.959
frequencies it wasn't supposed to. And
that was the other fun thing is you'd

1890
02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.559
go to radio shack and build you
know, a radio with a crystal and

1891
02:22:13.639 --> 02:22:16.520
everything, and if you tweaked it
a little bit, you could pick up

1892
02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:18.840
all kinds of signals that they told
you you weren't supposed to be able to

1893
02:22:18.879 --> 02:22:26.040
pick up, you know, like
I accidentally the crypto. Yeah, we

1894
02:22:26.399 --> 02:22:30.719
could pick up like the nine one
one calls some crap. Well, you

1895
02:22:30.760 --> 02:22:33.479
could pick up all kinds of things. At one point, I had a

1896
02:22:33.639 --> 02:22:39.959
radio that was just a regular AMFM
radio, but because I literally replaced it

1897
02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:43.399
with one of those radio shack crystals, I put that thing in there with

1898
02:22:43.520 --> 02:22:46.799
one of those you know, build
your own radio kits. I put that

1899
02:22:46.959 --> 02:22:50.319
into the radio and rewired the speakers, and the next thing I knew is

1900
02:22:50.600 --> 02:22:56.159
I could listen to TV broadcasts on
my radio. And it was totally accidental.

1901
02:22:56.200 --> 02:22:58.799
I have no idea why it worked. And I was getting better reception

1902
02:23:00.479 --> 02:23:03.120
on my radio for the news and
stuff at night or whatever. Then I

1903
02:23:03.319 --> 02:23:09.000
was on my regular TV and uh
yeah, really good. And some cable

1904
02:23:09.040 --> 02:23:13.520
broadcast, like some things that people
thought were only available on cable actually were

1905
02:23:13.600 --> 02:23:20.040
open air broadcasts as well, like
Nickelodeon and USA Network, which is where

1906
02:23:20.120 --> 02:23:24.639
I first saw the kung Fu movies. All day Sunday was, you know,

1907
02:23:24.680 --> 02:23:26.920
it would be like for five six
hours they'd have, you know,

1908
02:23:26.399 --> 02:23:33.319
the badly dubbed kung Fu movies that
would happen on USA Network. Yeah,

1909
02:23:33.879 --> 02:23:37.479
and every one of them would be
named Bruce Leeve, but not a single

1910
02:23:37.639 --> 02:23:43.000
one of them was the real Bruce
Sleeve. It would always make me mad.

1911
02:23:43.479 --> 02:23:46.520
I'd always go, you damn liars. Oh, that drove me crazy

1912
02:23:46.559 --> 02:23:50.520
because it would be in this like
weird perspective that was distorted, and like

1913
02:23:50.639 --> 02:23:54.319
you know, they would either be
really tall and skinny or short and fat

1914
02:23:54.959 --> 02:23:58.200
one way or the other because nobody
could figure out how to fix the pal

1915
02:23:58.399 --> 02:24:03.879
to uh, you know whatever are
our thing? Uh? And it was

1916
02:24:03.959 --> 02:24:05.440
funny because I had a kid one
time trying to explain to me, no,

1917
02:24:05.520 --> 02:24:09.879
that's Bruce Lae. See there's Bruce
Lae and there's Bruce Lee. And

1918
02:24:09.959 --> 02:24:13.520
I'm like dumbass when they say,
oh, I, that's a way to

1919
02:24:13.600 --> 02:24:16.959
spell Bruce Lee. They're trying to
tell you it's Bruce Lee. And look

1920
02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:24.040
at the guy that ain't Bruce Lee. What's that question? I'm not kind

1921
02:24:24.079 --> 02:24:28.000
of somewhat on topic, did either
of you? Am I the only one

1922
02:24:28.040 --> 02:24:33.200
that grew up with a scrambled spice
channel? Uh? Well, I didn't

1923
02:24:33.200 --> 02:24:39.520
have spice. Spice came in later, but I remember scrambled channel. Well

1924
02:24:39.600 --> 02:24:43.000
do you remember when those scrambled channels? Yes, I remember the scrambled channels,

1925
02:24:43.000 --> 02:24:46.639
and I remember if you played with. If you had the old box

1926
02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:50.239
with the little switch and the dial, you could play with it, and

1927
02:24:50.360 --> 02:24:54.639
you could get it in and black
and white. If you just just tweak

1928
02:24:54.719 --> 02:24:56.959
it enough, you could watch a
lot of those page channels in black and

1929
02:24:58.040 --> 02:25:03.000
white if you met with the little
tuner you aren't supposed to. Yeah that

1930
02:25:03.120 --> 02:25:07.440
too. I mean, I'm thirty
seven, so you guys have a few

1931
02:25:07.559 --> 02:25:15.000
ears on me. So yeah.
Well, well, if you want to

1932
02:25:15.040 --> 02:25:18.159
look up something that's really interesting on
scramble channels. And one of the most

1933
02:25:18.200 --> 02:25:20.920
famous incidents, and one of my
favorite incidents in media history, is the

1934
02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:26.399
guy who turned around and hijacked the
HBO signal for a little while called himself

1935
02:25:26.479 --> 02:25:31.319
Captain Midnight. It's hilarious. There's
some really good YouTube videos on it.

1936
02:25:31.399 --> 02:25:35.239
Maybe I'll find one right before I
sign off here, because that reminds me

1937
02:25:35.360 --> 02:25:39.680
of the old days of broadcast versus
cable. And you know, there was

1938
02:25:39.760 --> 02:25:46.600
a time when everything wasn't digital necessarily, although there was lots of satellite signals

1939
02:25:46.799 --> 02:25:50.040
roaming around, and if you knew
the right equipment to buy and everything,

1940
02:25:50.559 --> 02:25:54.479
you didn't have to pay these pirates
all this money per month. You know,

1941
02:25:54.600 --> 02:25:56.760
you just knew. You just had
to know where to point your dish

1942
02:25:56.440 --> 02:26:01.159
and the right frequencies for a couple
of things, and you could get a

1943
02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:09.040
lot of free and infotainment, information
and entertainment all you wanted, you know.

1944
02:26:09.399 --> 02:26:13.440
Captain Midnight, though, hijacked it
and was pissed off that they were

1945
02:26:13.479 --> 02:26:16.120
going to charge I think ten bucks
HBO a month, But back in the

1946
02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:20.719
eighties ten bucks was ten bucks,
you know. So I go a little

1947
02:26:20.799 --> 02:26:26.000
further back maybe, but the Spice
channel I remember was like the softcore porn

1948
02:26:26.079 --> 02:26:31.719
channel that came out when I was
a little older and had much better ways

1949
02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:35.719
to go get porn outside of trying
to play with Spice, So but I

1950
02:26:35.799 --> 02:26:39.479
do remember it the original porn.
Yeah, unless you're lucky enough to find

1951
02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:43.719
the magazine land on the side of
the road, you know, Nah,

1952
02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:46.879
little a little fake ID or a
hookup at the local video store, and

1953
02:26:46.879 --> 02:26:52.559
I could bring home anything I wanted, you know what I mean, you

1954
02:26:52.639 --> 02:26:54.719
know, or the one guy who
was from I don't know what country to

1955
02:26:54.840 --> 02:26:58.079
this day he was from, and
believe me, if you were there,

1956
02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:01.479
you couldn't identify it either, But
but he was some foreign dude, and

1957
02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:05.239
one day I brought him a bottle
of vodka, and that got me the

1958
02:27:05.360 --> 02:27:11.479
introduction into the secret video closet that
he rented to only special customers. Because

1959
02:27:11.479 --> 02:27:13.479
I brought him a bottle of vodka. And I'm serious, I have no

1960
02:27:13.600 --> 02:27:16.719
idea what country he was from.
He had kind of a tan, looked

1961
02:27:16.760 --> 02:27:20.360
like a white guy, sounded like
an Arab, and I have no clue

1962
02:27:20.399 --> 02:27:26.680
where he was from. I think
he wasn't supposed to drink that vodka either.

1963
02:27:26.719 --> 02:27:30.000
I think if his wife caught him
with the vodka, shed get him

1964
02:27:30.000 --> 02:27:33.639
in trouble with his I don't know
his parents, his religion, something,

1965
02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:37.600
But either way, because I brought
him a bottle of vodka and I was

1966
02:27:37.680 --> 02:27:41.399
like, I don't know, sixteen
seventeen, that got me the secret key.

1967
02:27:41.600 --> 02:27:46.520
You know, I could go into
the special video closet where they kept

1968
02:27:46.559 --> 02:27:50.319
the real Porto hidden, you know, in the family video store. So

1969
02:27:50.280 --> 02:27:56.040
you know, God bless the days
of a Palmer video in the independent video

1970
02:27:56.120 --> 02:28:01.159
store. Yeah. I can't believe
they're all gone. Yeah, Well,

1971
02:28:01.200 --> 02:28:05.520
before Blockbusters seemed like it was going
to last forever, didn't it. Jimmy

1972
02:28:05.600 --> 02:28:15.000
James, Oh it really did.
I mean I remember even the last commercial

1973
02:28:15.120 --> 02:28:20.879
they put out with those stupid gerbils
some stuff. We're so big and awesome,

1974
02:28:20.319 --> 02:28:24.399
and then like a week later they
were like, gone, Yeah,

1975
02:28:24.479 --> 02:28:31.559
they tried to compete briefly with uh
with Netflix, right, and even we're

1976
02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:35.879
trying to do the whole you know. That's back when Netflix would mail you

1977
02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:39.360
a DVD, no kidding. I
don't know if people remember that, but

1978
02:28:39.440 --> 02:28:46.159
that was a day. What's that? I said? That was a That

1979
02:28:46.360 --> 02:28:50.000
was the time parod of which I
dropped cable right because one of the one

1980
02:28:50.040 --> 02:28:56.799
of the lgs in the cable cutting
there. Yeah, I subscribed to Netflix

1981
02:28:56.920 --> 02:29:00.680
back in the yeah, the melon
DVD days. Yeah, but I love

1982
02:29:00.799 --> 02:29:05.079
Netflix at a certain point because they
had like every movie, and then when

1983
02:29:05.120 --> 02:29:07.040
they came up with the online streaming, it was all over for these big

1984
02:29:07.120 --> 02:29:13.319
giant Blockbuster locations, you know.
And Blockbuster tried to be Netflix for a

1985
02:29:13.399 --> 02:29:16.920
minute, and yet now they're all
gone. I'm gonna drop a link to

1986
02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:22.639
the Captain Midnight incident in the chatroom
at ochelli dot com. But he literally

1987
02:29:22.799 --> 02:29:28.840
hijacked the HBO signal during some bad
movie one night, late night on the

1988
02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:33.840
East Coast and put up this test
pattern that what does it actually read.

1989
02:29:33.959 --> 02:29:37.200
Let me say, actually, an
image pops up in the thumbnail, so

1990
02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:41.959
let me see what it says when
it pops up. It says good evening

1991
02:29:41.159 --> 02:29:50.280
HBO from Captain Midnight twelve ninety five
a month, no Way Showtime Movie Channel,

1992
02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:52.639
Beware. And it's one of those
big, old, colorful what they

1993
02:29:52.760 --> 02:29:56.120
used to call test patterns that they
would run in the middle of the night

1994
02:29:56.159 --> 02:29:58.799
when TV went off the air,
you know, at a certain time.

1995
02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:03.959
Anyway, with all that being said, here's what I'm gonna say, drop

1996
02:30:03.040 --> 02:30:07.280
something into the tipbucket at ochelly dot
com. Chip in if you want to

1997
02:30:07.319 --> 02:30:11.719
get involved, if you want the
archive. For the past decade, I've

1998
02:30:11.760 --> 02:30:18.159
been sending it out in pieces.
Once a month, my supporters get a

1999
02:30:18.280 --> 02:30:22.079
ZIP file loaded with the archive.
I can't send it all at once,

2000
02:30:22.159 --> 02:30:24.120
it's too massive, But once a
month you can get a piece of the

2001
02:30:24.239 --> 02:30:28.239
archive if you sign up as a
member at o'ceelly dot com. Just that

2002
02:30:28.399 --> 02:30:33.239
simple. Or you can just make
a donation of my well being continuation of

2003
02:30:33.280 --> 02:30:37.040
all this. I had a birthday
a week ago. I had a donation

2004
02:30:37.600 --> 02:30:41.319
from somebody for my birthday, and
I appreciate that. I bought myself a

2005
02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:46.079
Jersey, Mike Sandwich, I kid
you not. So that was my birthday

2006
02:30:46.159 --> 02:30:50.639
present to me, given to me
by a contributor, but right now just

2007
02:30:50.719 --> 02:30:54.840
my well being. In fact,
I've got like two cigarettes left. So

2008
02:30:54.639 --> 02:30:58.280
if you drop some men tonight,
you can help me tonight and keep this

2009
02:30:58.440 --> 02:31:03.040
whole thing, because there are bills
to pay. The free podcast is free

2010
02:31:03.079 --> 02:31:07.360
to you, but not to me
anyway. With all that having been said,

2011
02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:11.159
I'll leave you with my usual final
thought, which is I am merely

2012
02:31:11.239 --> 02:31:16.319
o'ceelly. All of you are indeed
the effect. Thanks Jimmy James, Thanks

2013
02:31:16.399 --> 02:31:37.040
Chris, Thanks Danny, Thanks b
Pete Captain. Goodbye,