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I'm out here looking 41 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.439 through the window now and I don't see anything. I don't want to go 42 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:23.599 outside. Jesus, point you body, Carol deal, Hello, get somebody 43 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.560 out here. What point on the outare? It's thought up a bit about 44 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:29.960 sixty four nine. I don't know he seeming the outtare. Yeah, I'm 45 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:34.280 looking right here um, everybody, this is less Drive. Yes, yes, 46 00:03:34.520 --> 00:04:00.159 I know aka Surviving Man. Can you listen to Brian's botch Onnyson You 47 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.439 guys will welcome back to Sasquatchots. Thank you so much for flicking play. 48 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:08.000 It is Wednesday. I hope you gays are having a great week. I 49 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.960 have an amazing show lined up or you put as always, I want to 50 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.400 start by inviting you. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be 51 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.480 on the show, shoot me an email you get me a Brian at Parentimalworldproductions 52 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.360 dot com. Can head over to the website, check it out, become 53 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:27.399 a member there and help support the show. As I said, we've got 54 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.160 an awesome show lined up for you. This is actually an interview that Wayne 55 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.040 and Lisa did with Johnny Tucker from North Carolina, and they discussed all of 56 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.639 his amazing research that he's been doing and some of the amazing stuff that he's 57 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.399 been capturing. So I'll let them get into that in just a second. 58 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.959 If you haven't already done so, please take time to rate and review the 59 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.639 show wherever you're listening to the podcast, and make sure you follow us on 60 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:49.360 Instagram at sasquatch Odyssey. Check us out and follow us on TikTok at Sasquatch 61 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:53.560 Odyssey podcast, and we would love to have you join us in the Sasquatch 62 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:57.480 Odyssey Fans group on Facebook. Make sure you tune back in on Friday. 63 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.519 We have one of the most amazing interviews that I think, guy I've ever 64 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.120 done. We've got Dan on the show and he's a hunter and he is 65 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:08.079 going to tell you one of the most amazing encounter stories that frankly I have 66 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:11.399 ever heard. You definitely don't want to miss that. But I know you 67 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:13.959 guys are anxious to get into this show, so I'm gonna stop talking. 68 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:39.040 You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Hey, Lisa Wayne 69 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.240 audience of her normalodasey, thank you, thank you for having me on. 70 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.120 Yes, sir, Yes, they're been looking forward to this for a very 71 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.800 very long time. My first podcast. Yeah, I'm glad that you you 72 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.920 clarified that I was pretty sure that that's what you had said. So I 73 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:59.360 am honored that you chose to choose this one to come on, because thank 74 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:03.639 you, because you know, in all seriousness, you have been catching some 75 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:09.519 really really cool stuff out in North Carolina. What's the name of that is 76 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:13.759 that the Uari National Forest. No, we are we are east of the 77 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:19.920 ui or up in the Upper Coastal Plain. And the center of the activity 78 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.800 that that I research and a couple other guys is based around a place. 79 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:29.480 It's it's a rural state park. It's called Meadoc Mountain State Park. Mead 80 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:33.920 Doc's but Meadock. And it's not necessarily in the park because all throughout the 81 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:41.720 area it's pretty rural. It's got just thousands of thousands of acres of woods 82 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.040 and bluff, swamps, creeks. It's a it's a very secluded area. 83 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:51.079 Telling the people, the audience and everyone. And I'm gonna take this and 84 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:55.920 upload it to podcast form as well. If it we'll reach quite a few 85 00:06:55.959 --> 00:07:00.480 more people that way that people check out. If you any chance you get, 86 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.279 check out Johnny Tucker stuff. It's really really cool. He's doing a 87 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:09.279 great job. I've been trying for a couple of years to convince him to 88 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.959 join animal research, but he's doing his own thing out there, and I 89 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:16.560 can't blame him for that. Johnny, tell everybody how you got your start 90 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:21.920 in this crazy world of bigfoot research and how long ago how you got your 91 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:27.199 start. And yeah, well, back in the nineteen seventies when I was 92 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:30.959 just a toddler, we went to our parents took us through a couple of 93 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:36.519 movies. I believe one was called Sasquatch and the other one was Creature from 94 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:41.120 Black Lake. Doesn't really get a lot of talk, but it was a 95 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:47.399 good movie. In between that and In Search of and the Lazy day afternoon 96 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:53.199 movie of Boggy Creek. It kind of got me, got my interest in 97 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.560 it. But there's only one thing that was wrong. I was a city 98 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.000 slicker. I was born and raised in a big city. So we me 99 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.319 and my wife moved down to North Carolina about twenty years ago, did some 100 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.639 research. Actually, we moved to the eastern part of North Carolina. A 101 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:16.879 lot of people don't relater associate eastern coast with Bigfoot, more or less look 102 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.519 toward toward the western part of the state with all the mountains. But uh, 103 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.279 yeah, we have activity off this way. Yeah, you certainly do. 104 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.839 Normally, I wait a little bit to get into the evidence. You've 105 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.279 got so much of it. You requested that we show a couple of these 106 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:37.000 prints first, so I've got those pretty much light out in order I believe 107 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.279 of what you wanted, I'm gonna pump this one up here, and you 108 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.000 let me know if that's where you want to start, okay. September twenty 109 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.799 twenty, it had rained the night before, and I got a hold of 110 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.320 myself and two other people. I went to there's a well, I'll just 111 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.279 I'll just come back a little bit the Meatock Mountain State Park. It's thirty 112 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:05.240 nine acres and there's only really less than ten trails to do that, so 113 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:09.480 there's a lot of just just wooded hidden areas. There's a creek that runs 114 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:16.159 through the park, and that's the activities kind of centered either side of the 115 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:22.759 creek. Now, we had it a random night before down in my house. 116 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:24.879 It was about like ten o'clock to midnight. So I met up with 117 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:31.200 myself and two other people and just was walking down an old service road. 118 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.279 You take the service road, you get down to the back trails out toward 119 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:41.320 the mountain, and sure enough, we were actually looking for prints because the 120 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.600 ground was pretty moist and it was eight thirty in the morning. That is 121 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.399 the one print we found, and I think we have a casting of that 122 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.200 that might be a right foot. What it looked like it was doing was 123 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:58.799 Yeah, that's the casting. It was walking along the service road and it 124 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.840 either had stepped accidentally into or just like walking along the side of the surface 125 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.039 road. It took its right foot. It stepped in a mud spot where 126 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:15.200 we got that print, went down to the creek, and the embankment of 127 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:18.080 the creek is all wet and all muddy. You can actually see a slid 128 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:22.120 print going down to the creek. It had to come back up the same 129 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.440 way, and it had stopped in another spot with its left foot. We 130 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.120 didn't we couldn't be able to get the casting of the left foot, and 131 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.440 from there not too sure where it went to. And that was September twenty 132 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.759 twenty. Okay, Johnny, uh this next print, you're ready for me 133 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:46.639 to pull it up? Yeah? Sure, that was a recent one that 134 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:52.240 was in August of this year. I'm sorry of last year. Last year 135 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.679 we really didn't have too much rain over here was a real dry, dry 136 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.279 summer, so the creek level dropped all the way down to within a foot 137 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.960 or so. And in the summertime I've been noticing strange footprints up in the 138 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.799 creek. It it's in an area that we usually get the tree knocks and 139 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:18.480 the trees fallen, and it's basically around the same size. So I'm going 140 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:20.320 back and forth. Is it a person because the creek is so low, 141 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:24.639 it's roughly the same size twelve and a half to thirteen, which it could 142 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.639 be something the activities there. So I was basically just keeping an eye on 143 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:35.440 that area for probably about three or four weeks, and we had a little 144 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.799 bit of a rain, so the creek on the other side was a little 145 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:45.039 a little bit wet. Went there one afternoon, I was actually meaning another 146 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.440 guy there, went there about four thirty in the afternoon, was going down 147 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:52.879 this trail to the creek, and I was probably about fifty feet from our 148 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.759 side of the creek when you hear this knock on into a tree and the 149 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.080 tree starts to fall. I mean it was a loud whack, and then 150 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.840 you hear the fibers of the tree falling. You can hear something back not 151 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:09.039 close to the creek though, but it's back. If you go back little 152 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.720 ways, you start to get up into the bluffs walking around back there, 153 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.399 so I kind of froze in my tracks. Didn't know exactly what was going 154 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.840 on, so I went down stream, set up a reporter like I usually 155 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:26.639 do, and by the time I got back to that spot where the tree 156 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:33.080 got hit up on our side, the one investigator actually made it there. 157 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.360 I put my hip waiters on, got down into the creek and found that 158 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:43.080 print on the other side and he's listening and he's actually hearing something back still 159 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.039 moving around back there, and it was a breaking breaking branches. You can 160 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.200 hear it going through the leaves. It didn't come up to me, you 161 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.960 know, up up to the creaking. Mainly just stayed back there. So 162 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.879 that was one interesting that was the sye. Actually that's the start of that 163 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.039 night there. So when we left the area it was probably about six thirty. 164 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.000 We had a good tree knock on a recorder about a half an hour 165 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:13.559 later. I think it's a day day knocker that that you have afternoon knock, 166 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:18.320 that you have way day knock. You're not sure which one it's it's 167 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.840 called, because let me just break in right here and say that Johnny and 168 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.679 I've been working on this together trying to set up a you know, the 169 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:31.720 best show that we can to to display what he's catching. So we have 170 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.000 several audio clips. I'm gonna be playing, but while we were waiting to 171 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:39.320 come on, Johnny was having a hard time hearing those. So I'm gonna 172 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:46.360 go ahead and play one now, and audience members and Lisa help me and 173 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.960 let me know if if maybe it's just Johnny set up because in the past 174 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:54.159 we haven't had trouble playing audio. So I'm gonna try one real quick, 175 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.639 but I'm gonna look for that one you said, what day knock? Is 176 00:13:56.679 --> 00:14:00.360 that what you said? Yeah, da day knicker afternoon knock. I think 177 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.679 i'll label it. Okay, I've got sever we're here, so I'm going 178 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.039 through them. About seven seconds. I think knock afternoon. Yeah, there 179 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:13.720 you go. Is that it? Okay? Let's try this. Can y'all 180 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:20.559 hear that? Okay? I spoke over it, so I'm gonna play it 181 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:31.000 again. It's only five seconds long. We cut it up a little bit 182 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.240 and I'm gonna play it again. Lisa, are you hearing it? Yeah? 183 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.720 I can hear it. Can you hear the knock? Okay, let's 184 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:48.240 do it one more time. To me, that sounds like was it raining? 185 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.480 Johnny? No, No, it was just an average summer day, 186 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:58.759 nice and nice and clear, hot Muggie still meaning like totally still. Okay, 187 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.399 what's the audience saying, Lisa, can they hear it? Tippy could 188 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:05.639 hear Sandrick could hear Carson could hear it, Danny could hear it? Okay? 189 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.879 Yeah, Johnny and I were talking. He he bought a new setup 190 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.919 for the show. He's got an awesome blue Yeddie mic right there. But 191 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.799 I guess having some issues with Johnny stuff coming through. So as long as 192 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.159 you guys can hear it, Johnny Oles can hear it, that's good. 193 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:26.519 I've heard a thousand times. Yeah, all right. So that knock was 194 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:28.120 a half an hour after we left the area because we went back to our 195 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.200 campsite because we're gonna go out that night and at midnight, well, I'll 196 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:39.080 back up, just going over the past years and listening to audio stuff and 197 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.200 finding like a smaller footprint up in that area and also a shelter, I 198 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.600 got a good feeling that there's like a juvenile that's hanging out back there. 199 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.080 So you got that knock, and then at midnight is where I think it's 200 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:58.200 calling the owls. Where are you going to go to next there? Yeah, 201 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.840 the juvenile calling the owls. Listen to the tone of the voice it's 202 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.200 it's a it's a higher pitch. To me, it's almost sounds like a 203 00:16:03.240 --> 00:17:11.839 little child juvenile ill. Okay, I heard at that time over my end, 204 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.480 Oh did you okay? Yeah? What do you off thing? What 205 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:21.440 do you think about that? Lisa? Um a couple of questions, Um, 206 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.480 I could hear I could hear him call in that that? The Owls 207 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.359 finally started answering, correct, yes, right, yeah, that's where it 208 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.359 again? Yeah, okay, where you want to go now? So later 209 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.319 on and night, I don't think he had the audio clip of this, 210 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:41.400 but about six am, quarter to seven in the morning, you know, 211 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.440 I got something kind of like walking through the area, and probably about ten 212 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.359 minutes later we got a good another good tree knock it was. That was 213 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:52.799 close to seven am. I got all those on my website metac bigfoot dot 214 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.920 com. But if you show the smaller print, the juvenile print I got 215 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.880 a few summers ago, and also the show that I found. Um, 216 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:06.319 I'm not sure I've got I've got one more print that I can show because 217 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.000 you're kind of limited on I do have it? Is that what you're saying, 218 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.039 Yeah, yeah, you should have it? Well, I mean you 219 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.319 sent several but I wasn't able to put on all of them on here, 220 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:21.519 so okay, this is the other one. Yeah, yeah, I definitely 221 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.759 look smaller. I's eight inches and a six inches wide. Found that in 222 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:30.079 a creek bed two twenty twenty read in the middle of the summertime. It 223 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.319 was a short creek bed um, and it was going toward the creek, 224 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:41.160 down an embankment and toward the creek. Okay, I also got another one 225 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.119 back in that area. Didn't really turn out too good. Um, I 226 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.799 should have picked the pine straw from from the photo, but I kind of 227 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:53.160 had a trick it a little bit. Uh. In uh twenty twenty, 228 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.480 we had a lot of rain in the creek basically overflowed probably about three or 229 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:03.519 four times, and is it drained back down. It took a lot of 230 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:06.440 the in this one area. It took a lot of the pine straw and 231 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.440 all that pine bark and leaves, and it kind of pushed the read out. 232 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.799 And what it did was it left a huge mud bed. It was 233 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.640 it's got to be about six feet wide but about twenty feet long. And 234 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.720 suck a couple of apples right smack dab in the middle one time, just 235 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:29.039 to see what we're coming near and grab it and put two up in the 236 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:30.039 front, two up in the back. The two in the back were still 237 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:33.720 there, and you can see a little like a little raccoon prints. The 238 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.559 two up in the front totally gone, nothing absolutely around it for like two 239 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:42.519 feet. And then you see this impression in the mud at what it looked 240 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:49.839 like was a left foot step, but the majority of the footprint was the 241 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:56.200 like the toes and in the ballpark was stuck in the mud were I would 242 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:02.000 imagine that the weight if it was having the apples that it's it's stepped down 243 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:06.920 with its left foot, put its weight forward and then snatched them up. 244 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.799 But that's uh. That was another eight inch print read up around that area. 245 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.480 Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to Seaward right back after these messages, 246 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:22.960 guys, I'm telling you, you know, every episode that we do. 247 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:27.640 I'm looking at my computer here and I've got my other computer to the left, 248 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:32.160 and I've got my TV, a TV mounted up above me right here, 249 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:36.480 and I'll look, I'm looking at the picture of that print on the 250 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:41.440 hd TV. This the picture that you're getting or here on your phone or 251 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:47.599 on your computer does not do it justice it the quality, it's pretty fresh. 252 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:48.000 Yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty good. It 253 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.079 was a good footprint. If you guys get a chance to watch it on 254 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.480 a TV on a high depth television, go back and look at this print. 255 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.079 I'm I'll pop it up there one more time. Yeah, that's the 256 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.960 definition on these things are incredible. Well, the big toe is what stands 257 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.039 out to me, the big toe, and then and then the mud, 258 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.039 the the the actual mud between the other toes. Yeah, human would stepped 259 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.440 down and you get that kind of like squishy between your big toe and your 260 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.759 other toes. Yeah. Carson's got a good question here, Johnny. How 261 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:25.319 do you feel when you first see these tracks? Your emotions? It's justifying. 262 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.640 It's uh, all these hours of audio and tree knocks and finding uh 263 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:36.000 tree breaks and axes, it's uh, it's kind of like getting a little 264 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:41.240 bit of the Holy grill finding finding footprints, Finding footprints and a good footprint 265 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.400 is is very special. Yep. That's that's a great way to describe it, 266 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.319 right there, Johnny. I found several tracks while I've been doing this, 267 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.279 and I don't know that I found any that look as good as that, 268 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.400 So I can't really speak to what my emotions would be if I found 269 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:02.279 one that breash and that d tailed. So I mean those are really really 270 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:07.720 impressive. Yeah, you wanted to pull up some possible net. Yeah, 271 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.279 that's right. I've got a couple here. I mean, pull this one 272 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:18.319 up. First. I was back in that area about two months beforehand. 273 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:19.640 That was not there, and it was well. When I went back in 274 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:23.279 the area, it was still the end of wintertime, going in in spring 275 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:29.240 because I think that might be May. And I come back about two months 276 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:34.799 later and that that is there. Oh wow, and it's um the area 277 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.799 doesn't flood back there, so the sticks and everything couldn't be piled up with 278 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.640 with water. It almost looks like it was placed there. And you can 279 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:48.880 see like a little kind of like a little cubbyhole kind of entrance in there. 280 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:56.400 And it was probably about i'd see about six feet long, and it's 281 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:02.920 it can't be more than about three feet wide. Uh. I wonder if 282 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:08.599 maybe were you by yourself, Johnny, Oh yeah, yeah, myself. 283 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:11.839 Yeah, well you you got a bigger sack than me. Let me just 284 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.319 go ahead and say that part in the language. People. I'm sorry about 285 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.720 that, but um, because I don't like to go out by myself, 286 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.720 especially when you know that there's activity. But I was just thinking if you 287 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.519 had another person with you, maybe have them stand beside it to take a 288 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.839 picture to kind of gauge the size this one? Is this a different one? 289 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.599 Right here? The same one? It's the same one. Okay, 290 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:40.279 So, Johnny, were you I'm assuming you at least looked in there. 291 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:45.319 I don't. I wouldn't. Yeah, I looked inside with a flashlight and 292 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.519 all that. I didn't see any hair. But it is dry in there, 293 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.240 so if if if a rain or a light rain would come down, 294 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.519 it's it still is dry inside there. But I didn't find any heir or 295 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.680 anything inside. Yeah, that's why I asked that, because it seems like 296 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:02.839 a really good place to get some e DNA, if not legitimate DNA. 297 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:08.640 Right right, Okay, where where you gonna go next? Johnny? What? 298 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.839 What else? What else? Are you got? Some tree knocks the 299 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.279 trees that are getting hit by are the uh the knocks that are actually breaking 300 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.200 the trees? I think I sent you about three of them. Yeah, 301 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.880 I got some close by knocks. Trees tree hit maybe tree hit okay, 302 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:27.400 knock afternoon close by knock. We're gonna do the close by knock. Yeah, 303 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:53.480 and play it one more time, Julie. Are are y'all hearing a 304 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:59.960 thing? Yeah, a grunt or like a like a whoop from a differ 305 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.759 from a maybe a distance off. Play it again, Johnny, did you 306 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.920 pick up on that? No, that sucks. You can't hear it. 307 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:22.359 Let's hear what the audience has to say. Let's play it again before and 308 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.839 after the knob. Yeah, that was just a recent one too. That 309 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.799 was back in February thirteenth of this year, about nine ten at night. 310 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:36.960 I wonder if that audience members let us know if y'all heard that. Sanders 311 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.480 got a question? Yeah, Johnny, are you armed when you go out? 312 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:47.559 I was not armed the first time, and after hearing a my first 313 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:51.799 time out, I was basically just like a newbie and I did. Ah. 314 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.519 It was a great in the middle of October. It was a real 315 00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:59.319 hot summer that year or twenty nineteen. I went out there and it had 316 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:02.559 like about a foot little tire thumper that you get at like a truck stopper 317 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.400 or so. I did a couple of tree knocks where I parked my car. 318 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.920 I went down this one trail did one single tree knock when I was 319 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:15.680 going down and then my plan of attackle was just rolling nice and quiet and 320 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.160 see what happens. The trail goes down to a creek about five minutes later 321 00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.839 and got to the creek, started going downstream, low tree knock up on 322 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.759 the bluff on the other side, calm conditions. After that, I start 323 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.680 caring a pistol with me. Smart, very smart. Yeah. Got a 324 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.920 question, Okay, do you review your videos in zoom frame by frame? 325 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.920 I see lots of beings there. I don't really buy into that kind of 326 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:49.880 stuff, the paraphernalia. Yeah, not not too much because I'm out there 327 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.559 so I got a good feeling for the whole area. So if you look 328 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.359 at a picture and your zoom in you see something and I'm like, wow, 329 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:00.640 I don't think it was there. But if you see the picture and 330 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.279 I don't really buy answer that though. That's a good question, though, 331 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.839 yeah, yeah, I mean it makes you question things, and like you 332 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.680 said a lot of times that you know the area that you're in, and 333 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:17.039 it's yeah, it's best not to second guess yourself all right on stuff like 334 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.759 that. Okay, we got one, uh knock afternoon. You want to 335 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.720 go with that one? Yeah, sure, I think you already played that 336 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:27.960 one. How about okay, daytime tree fall or tree hidden fall. There's 337 00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:33.119 a whistle here? Oh yeah, the whistle. We got that back in 338 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.480 December. Okay, yeah, I'm not seeing those other Do you see when 339 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.960 that says power knock? Yes, I do. Let's go ahead and get 340 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:52.599 that one. Let roll. It looks like a cluster, yeah, it 341 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.640 looks it sounds like it maybe tap the tree and then hit the tree twice 342 00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:04.000 and then a tree falls. Let's do that again. To me, it 343 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:10.359 almost sounds like a tree snapping and falling, like cracking as it's falling. 344 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:22.759 Let's do it again. Yeah. That was June twenty twenty one, two 345 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:29.759 fifteen in the morning. Oh wow, that late fifteen am. Day knock 346 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.799 fall. Oh yeah, that's a good one too. And okay, and 347 00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.200 then we'll do tree hit and fall after that. So this is the day 348 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:52.079 knock fall. I thought I heard a whoop there at the beginning of that 349 00:28:52.160 --> 00:29:07.759 one too. Yeah, play that again. I am one more time, 350 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:22.480 saint. Yeah, yeah, just at two seconds. Then you really get 351 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.599 able whoop? Did you notice that? Johnny here, I haven't known that 352 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.400 was it that was five thirty in the evening too? In the evening. 353 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.480 Something I'm really impressed with before we go on to the next one, Johnny, 354 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:40.799 is your attention to detail. You're telling us what time these things happened 355 00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.559 and where and the weather conditions. And that's the sign of a really, 356 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.920 really good researcher. I definitely that's something I need to improve on, and 357 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:56.640 myself is the diligent note taking. What's your background, Johnny, what's my 358 00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:02.599 background? Yeah? I went to school a couple of years for electrical engineering, 359 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:07.480 but now I worked for the railroad system. Okay, what one with 360 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.400 that day? Knockfall? Yes, right, Okay, so we're gonna tree 361 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:45.000 hitting fall now. Yeah. Again. You can hear it at the end. 362 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.559 I guess the sounded a bit falling. It kind of sounds like fireworks 363 00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.720 a little bit, but it's the leaves falling through the other leads. It's 364 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:59.160 really cool. This one here says well loop Child vocal places is really really 365 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:00.799 good from getting. I mean, it's not only just bigfoot, but it's 366 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:07.480 also paranormal stuff. Got EVPs Uh, this this is a ghost child. 367 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.359 This is probably the better of the two that I've gotten. But also you've 368 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.200 gotten the ladies speak, Um, I got one just actually less two months 369 00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:22.240 ago. It's real faint and you I'm not sure she's talking English though, 370 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.279 and she says a couple of words and then she kind of like, uh, 371 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.039 does a little tone almost like she's singing. But that's probably the best 372 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.119 EVP i've gotten. It's a ghost child. Okay, let's play that. 373 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:55.000 There's something there again. Let's play it again. What time was that, 374 00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:00.799 Johnny? I think it's about ten o'clock at night. That's quell the woods. 375 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:05.279 But it also there was a huge thunderstorm that was approaching the area, 376 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:08.359 So I don't know if that kind of generated it's singing. It sounded like 377 00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:15.079 it's kind of like I was gonna say, it almost sounds sing songy exactly. 378 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.279 Glad y'all said that, And I didn't have to, because that that's 379 00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.319 what I was thinking. Something a lady singing is what it sounds about. 380 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:24.240 If you're out in the woods ten o'clock at not ten o'clock, it's very 381 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:30.640 dark in the south, Um, and you hear some woman singing out in 382 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.839 the middle of no, Oh, it's time to go. That's I'm gonna 383 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:55.160 do it A couple more times. Yeah, that's crazy, pretty good. 384 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.279 Yeah, I'm singing a question here from Daniel Jackson. Daniel probably came in 385 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:08.240 light and didn't see that. We ask everyone to capitalize, to put the 386 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:14.480 questions in all caps. That's probably why you're not seeing at leasta. No 387 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.119 that that's fine, Daniel, any more questions, Try to put them in 388 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:21.279 all caps, please, buddy. Why do you think they keep knocking down 389 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:27.200 trees? I think the time that we were there in August, the one 390 00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.839 that you play, they hit the tree and oh you didn't be didn't play 391 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.079 a book. We went down to the creek. If there was the juvenile 392 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.720 on our side of the creek back up in the woods, I think it 393 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.720 was either sending a message just to kind of like a warning. Other than 394 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:46.039 that, I'm not sure show of strength. If there's nobody out there at 395 00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:51.119 nighttime, why would you hit a tree and so hard that the tree would 396 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.160 fall. I mean, the majority of the tree knocks that I hear out 397 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.720 there, either in person or have an audio record or a single knocks, 398 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:04.160 and I pretty much I kind of it's it's like a locator. That's that's 399 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.960 that's my view on it. Either they'll knock and then you'll get a one 400 00:34:07.639 --> 00:34:12.360 uh in the distance either knocking back, or if they're walking through an area, 401 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.320 they'll knock single knocks, just trying to get an idea of before they 402 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:22.440 are. Yeah, Daniel, Daniel the one to just ask that question. 403 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.920 That is Daniel Jackson. I've interviewed him a couple of times. He is 404 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:35.800 a spirit medium. Um. He commented that right here that may be spirit 405 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.519 singing. That's what I would think. Yeah, what is the history of 406 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:45.400 that land? I mean, it's a it's a park, right, it's 407 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.440 it's it's a state park. Um, there was there was a lot of 408 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.840 mining back in the Civil War era, probably about time. Ten miles away 409 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.119 from the park, they did some ore mining and also some gold mining. 410 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.440 I talked to one of the guys is that now owns one of the gold 411 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:07.280 operations there. They said that the shafts have been all blowing up, but 412 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:12.360 there's five miles of tunnels somewhere if you can find it. But he said 413 00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.320 that probably the state has got some kind of laser sensors in the opening, 414 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:22.079 you know, to two detects something going in there. But just this family 415 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:29.079 owned area, I would imagine Native Americans were or there. That was my 416 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:34.440 next question if there was any Native American activity on that. So, Johnny, 417 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.840 you're saying that there's a cave system there, we were wondering where are 418 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.119 they hiding? I mean, it's it's either back in the woods, you 419 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.440 know, or ducking down in some kind of caves and stuff like that. 420 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:51.280 So when we've seen that there's abandoned gold mines ten miles from the place, 421 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:53.639 you know, that wouldn't that kind of make sense if there's some some kind 422 00:35:53.639 --> 00:36:00.039 of mining underground tunnels somewhere. That's that's a hot question in the big food 423 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:06.000 community is is do they go in minds? I think they and I'm sorry, 424 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.119 through caves. I think they do. I think that's where they're staying. 425 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.679 That's why we don't see them that much. A lot of people, 426 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:19.679 especially a guy that I met early on I really respected, He absolutely refused 427 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.000 to believe that they stayed in caves. And his thinking was, they're so 428 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.639 elusive and they stay away from us and stay hidden, so well, why 429 00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:34.320 would they ever back themselves into a corner and back themselves out? You know, 430 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:37.239 so they can't get out basically, But my thinking is they know though 431 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.800 they have to know those cave systems better. They have to know where they 432 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:45.039 can go, where they can easily get you know, in and out and 433 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.480 pluses if it's way back in the woods or way back up in the bluffs. 434 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.800 I mean, what human is going to go back there kind of exploring 435 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.280 it and looking for it exactly. Well, here in Arkansas, we've got 436 00:36:54.360 --> 00:37:00.920 so many wild cave systems and the state you know, kind of maps them 437 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.880 out and like what you said, the state will put greats over the pave 438 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.199 entries to you know, keep people out because there's petroglyphs in there. There's 439 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:15.519 you know, endangered salamanders. We've got the ozaric hell bender. It's like 440 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:20.320 this big salamander that we're trying, this endangered species that they're keeping people out. 441 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.599 But that's that's that's singing. I keep circling back of that. That 442 00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.119 that's crazy. End. You have the pictures of the other campsite at the 443 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:31.800 orb behind the cap. I do. I'm going to get to that, 444 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.760 but before we do, we have got hit with several kind of questions. 445 00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.280 Do some of those real quick? Go ahead? Lisa Johnny thoughts on elementals. 446 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.599 I'm pretty open minded, um, I wouldn't rule it out. I 447 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.360 really haven't really looked into the subject at all, but I'm open minded, 448 00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:55.159 level headed, so sure, okay, and tree knocks for a form of 449 00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.760 communication, a warning of hunters, hikers, et cetera. Don't you, 450 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.840 Danny state stating, great question, thank you? Yeah? Do you agree 451 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.800 with that? Johnny? Yes? Yes, I think we all do. 452 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.039 Yeah, yeah, sure do All right, we had Tiffany had one? 453 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.840 Where'd she go? I got it right here? Okay, just a basic 454 00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:20.400 do you ever get creeped out? Uh? Not in that area? When 455 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:27.480 I'll make the short story short. When it's probably about my third time hiking 456 00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.760 by myself, I was carrying so too thirty in an afternoon. I was 457 00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.800 on a trail that's about two miles two and a half miles. It basically 458 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.400 goes out, loops around, comes back, goes out along the creek, 459 00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:45.119 comes back. There is a cluster of woods where the woodline kind of comes 460 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:50.880 in a bit. When I was out and starting to come back, there 461 00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.440 was an ax formation up along the surface road where it was. And for 462 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.199 some reason, I mean, I can't explain it. It was just like 463 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:06.000 like my sixth sense was just kicking in and I just I was like frozen 464 00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.880 in my tracks. I don't know if it was anxiety for it was fear. 465 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:14.039 But I managed to push through it because if I didn't, I was 466 00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:15.840 going to take the long way around, and it was already starting to get 467 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:21.960 about four o'clock in the afternoon. I made it through the area, came 468 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.880 down over a couple of hills, and where you exit the one trail, 469 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.280 it kind of opens up into a meadow. I had stop about fifty feet 470 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.960 from the meadow, and I was doing something on my cell phone, and 471 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:42.079 here comes this loud yell back from where I was hiking, and the way 472 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.800 I can describe it, it was probably about three four or five seconds long. 473 00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:51.119 It was really really deep, and it was very powerful because the whole 474 00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.920 woods behind me just shook. I just froze me, and I didn't know 475 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:58.840 if something was going to be coming my way. It was it was far 476 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:01.679 enough back, you know, it wasn't close by. It was far enough 477 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.039 back and for it just to shake the whole woods. That's probably about one 478 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.599 of the only times I got I got freaked out or got afraid. Stay 479 00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:14.320 tuned for more Sasquatch out to see We'll be right back. After these messages. 480 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.599 If it's only happened to you once or twice, man, you're doing 481 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:23.199 a lot better than most of us, because just about every time I go 482 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:27.760 out, I'll get creeped out. A friend of mine asked me, don't 483 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:29.880 you guys get freaked, you know, freaked out when you're out like this. 484 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:31.760 We went out nighttime, and I'm like, well, in a way, 485 00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:35.719 it may sound weird, but you kind of get desensitized to it. 486 00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.239 I mean, you hear a knock, you hear close by knock, and 487 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.960 you just kind of get get used to it, like like in the rhythm 488 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.239 or something. It's it is a crazy adrenaline rush when you get not only 489 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:51.719 if you get a tree knock, but if you get a response. Yeah, 490 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.000 yeah, that makes everything that you've been doing worth it. It's such 491 00:40:55.039 --> 00:41:00.159 an awesome, awesome feeling to know that, well, the thing we unless 492 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.199 you see the creature doing the knock, you don't know. But you feel 493 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.639 like if you do a knock, a couple of knocks, then you get 494 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.079 one back within a thirty second to a minute times made It's such an amazing 495 00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:16.719 feeling. I just found something very interesting. Circling back to the voices, 496 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:23.559 that area. A guy named Weller owned that area, named it me Doc 497 00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:30.639 after province in Bordeaux, France for vineyards, and he organized and operated an 498 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.639 academy for area children. Oh yeah, very nice. He also had a 499 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.920 vineyard up there. Yeah, I had a vineyard. Yep. Okay, 500 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:47.519 Johnny, you wanted to show the ORB. If you show the camp site 501 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.639 and I'll explain what's going on, you know it. Go ahead and start 502 00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:53.800 explaining that, Johnny, because I didn't get that one but up. But 503 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.920 I can do it real quick and just hit me a minute. That was 504 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.480 back in January two, I think it was twenty one. There were some 505 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.960 campers out there, probably about a few weeks beforehand, and they were reporting 506 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:15.159 that these little pea stones were being thrown at their tent. So me and 507 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.320 myself and another guy we decided just to set off just fake fake camp site, 508 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.079 just to see what it would happen. And we did. What I 509 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.119 did was laid out a big tarp in the bottom, put a small two 510 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:29.679 man tent so if anything is going to hit the tent, it's going to 511 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.719 roll down and the tarp's gonna catch it. And I set up a couple 512 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.480 game cameras I really haven't had any success with it on motion mode, so 513 00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.079 I put it on time lapse mode, and so it was either going to 514 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.840 take a picture like every fifteen minutes or every twenty minutes, you know, 515 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:49.360 day or night. It was rolling for about four days and caught an ORB. 516 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.679 I would probably assume that, like myself, the first thing I seen 517 00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.599 it, I was like, it's like about one forty something or other in 518 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:59.800 the morning, somebody's back there with a flashlight checking out my checking out my 519 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.199 off. No one's there. But I also had an audio recorder ladies and 520 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:10.079 gentlemen in the tent with an external microphone coming out and looping up on the 521 00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.280 top. Now, back in January, the leaf litter back there, it 522 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.840 is probably about three three inches and it is dry, dry, dry, 523 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.719 dry, So anything walking back there's going to make a noise. And I 524 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:31.679 would probably assume that that orbs maybe about twelve feet from the edge of the 525 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.840 say where the picnic table is twelve feet back in the woods and it only 526 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:44.239 slopes down about two feet. So absolutely nothing on audio recorder in that timeframe 527 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.719 of something or somebody walking around, because if someone wents back there to flash 528 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.320 light shining it around. You're definitely going to hear it, right. You 529 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:57.159 did a great job overlaying this picture. Yeah, yeah, thanks. I'm 530 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.079 just going back and forth between them so you can see in the daytime there's 531 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:05.159 there's nothing there that could be reflecting any kind of lie. Right, And 532 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.000 that's the that's the only picture at all that I've gotten with that or everything 533 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.199 else. You know, in that same setup was just all just nighttime. 534 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.760 Just all black knew was that a trocam. It was just yeah, there 535 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.519 was just a little troll cam and just set it on time laps mode. 536 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.039 So it's gonna snap a picture, you know. I think I had a 537 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.559 setup for like twenty minutes. It's just gonna Can you go back to that 538 00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:30.000 park picture real quick? Line that one, uh huh, and then go 539 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.000 back to the orb. It looks like there's something sitting on the limb of 540 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.440 that tree in the daytime. No, in the in the orb picture, 541 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:43.199 Okay, it looks like it's sitting on the branch. What tree are you 542 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.920 talking about? List If you go straight up from the orb, there's a 543 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:51.280 there's a branch that crosses like this, and it looks like something sitting on 544 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:54.760 that branch. There is something vertical. Yeah, let's look at it in 545 00:44:54.800 --> 00:45:00.199 the day WHOA, what do you think of that, Johnny, that's good 546 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:01.880 catch. I left, I'll left to zoom in on that picture. I'll 547 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.519 pull it off on my computer and see if I'll see if I've seen anything. 548 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:07.679 Yeah, I don't know if it's another limb. Go go back to 549 00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:12.400 the daytime picture again. It seems like it's right between those two trees. 550 00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:15.440 You got one tree in the left, that's yeah, forefront, one tree 551 00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:17.599 in the back. It's kind of like you're reading between those two. Yeah. 552 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.519 The only thing it could be is just a break in the limbs where 553 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.960 that's letting the light through. Yeah. I do see like a vertical spot 554 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.119 there, but the same amount of light should be coming on the other sides. 555 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.400 Yeah. Are you talking like moon light? Yeah, like moonlight coming 556 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.480 through. What wouldn't it be picked up in the other shots though? Exactly 557 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.000 for that though, Yeah, that's what that's the only instance. Yeah, 558 00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.400 that's that's the only picture with with it in there. That's that's a good, 559 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.960 good catch. So that's awesome. See we keep her around for more 560 00:45:52.039 --> 00:46:00.440 than just catching questions all those years in law enforcement. I there you go, 561 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:06.639 that's there's definitely something. It looks like there's definitely something there. Yeah, 562 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.119 where do you want to go from there? It's the mysteries. Do 563 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.840 you have the one audio clip? I think it says knock three. You 564 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.559 know there was a boy scout camp there also back in the nineteen twenties. 565 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.239 Oh yeah, okay, tree knock three. Yeah, I think it's tree 566 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:27.599 knock three. I got that right here. I'll set it up for you. 567 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.880 It's it got to a point I think that was in twenty twenty in 568 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.119 the summertime. I worked midnight shifts, so I cruised up there after work, 569 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.599 probably about eight o'clock, and it got to a point where I would 570 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.039 go down the trail down to the creek on the other side of the creek 571 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.159 would I would get a knock just playing his day was real calm. It 572 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.559 sounds like someone taking a bat and hitting a pine tree. So I went 573 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.480 down there one morning. I didn't have any of my stuff. I had 574 00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.159 an audio recorder going, and I just basically just wanted to kind of look 575 00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.920 in the creek just to see if anything's moving around. Get down to point 576 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:01.559 I stopped. I was like, where's the knock? No knock? So 577 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:06.920 I started heading down creek. A knock on the other side comes from down 578 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.519 creek, i'd say, and maybe fifty yards, maybe a hundred yards, 579 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.440 so I didn't I didn't even have my wood knock or anything with me, 580 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.000 so I was just doing cheek pops because it was so still and so quiet 581 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:25.119 out there. So it was it was down the creek it knocked. I 582 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.920 started going walking downstream. I think it was coming upstream. I had did 583 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.559 a cheek pop, and it replied with one that was pretty much parallel with 584 00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.719 me. I continued going downstream where it was, did another cheek pop. 585 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:45.400 It knocked back up here where I was in the start off with, and 586 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.559 then I went back up here. I kind of like just sat down on 587 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.920 the embankment just to see if I can see anything. I had some high 588 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:58.039 powered binoculars, but the leaves and everything was so thick. I didn't see 589 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.119 anything. I cheek pop a couple more times and then got the last response, 590 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.320 which was you'll hear me popping, you'll hear a hawk, and then 591 00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:10.119 you'll you'll hear the reply, and then you'll hear my reply. Here we 592 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:43.599 go all the ship. Yeah, my thoughts exactly out of my mouth. 593 00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.239 Um, yeah, oh man, let that that morning? How about hell 594 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.400 do you cheap pop that layout? First of all, it's just it's just 595 00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.440 so quiet down there. It's just like it just echoes. That's a let's 596 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.760 do that one more time. That's a lengthy one is twenty seven seconds, 597 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:23.639 so we'll just do it one more time. M all these ship Yeah, 598 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:34.800 is there anyone that's listening right now that's not listening in headphones? Go back 599 00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.440 and listen with headphones if you can, because it's some cool stuff that that 600 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.280 that he's sharing here. It's amazing. What's next, buddy? I think 601 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:45.760 that's I think that's everything pretty much. I sent you on the phone. 602 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:47.679 I was, I know, I was burning your phone up the other day. 603 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.880 A lot more stuff up on my website. I basefully just started a 604 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.599 website about three years ago, not to promote anything, just to kind of 605 00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:00.320 keep everything that I caught, just like an one spot not taking up the 606 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:05.719 home PC. So I got a lot more stuff on the website. You 607 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.719 said you had one recording of a child talking like maybe in another language or 608 00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.639 was that the singing one. It was it's it's it's a woman. It's 609 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.039 actually twice it's really really faint. She says a couple words that. The 610 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.440 first one, she says a couple of words and then there's like a really 611 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.480 brief pause and then the words repeat itself brief pause, and then the words 612 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.639 repeat itself again and its goes like in the distance. And the second one 613 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:37.079 I got was just a few months ago. She said like two words and 614 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.199 she and then it was like a kind of like she was singing basically. 615 00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.719 I don't know if it's Native American or if it's old Europeans or what, 616 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.559 or maybe maybe I'm just not hearing hearing exactly what she was saying. Yeah, 617 00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:52.440 I'm just going over there's a lot of paranormal activity there. I'm just 618 00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:59.559 going over one more time to see if there's any this audio that I think 619 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.719 maybe we didn't share because it seemed like there was one of us all oh 620 00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:08.679 the whistle, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the the you 621 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:14.199 have the tree knock before that close knock, close knock. Yeah, you 622 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.000 sent me those two together, so I'm sure that. Yeah, that's it. 623 00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:35.000 You're gonna do the knock first. Yep, here we go, let's 624 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:47.039 do it again. Yeah, that was a close spy knock. That was 625 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.920 back in the end of December, and that was about nine fifteen at night. 626 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.800 And then then a whistle like about ten o'clock, same recorder, same 627 00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:22.239 area. MS. Play that again, Okay, let's do it one more 628 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:37.519 time. Are you hearing the little talking after the whistle? Let's try it 629 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:52.199 again. Right after that first whistle, it sounds like the chatter. Yeah, 630 00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:07.519 let's do it. Let's listen again. And Tiffany here says there's a 631 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:12.800 low gruff yeah, and then Carson says it's like a garbled type And that's 632 00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:16.320 what I was hearing. That That almost like the samurai how they say the 633 00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:22.360 samurai sounds, or like that, the garbled talk. Can you play that 634 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:42.880 one more time? Yes, ma'am. Daniel here says, sounds like two 635 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.079 high notes, one long low note, then a few more low notes. 636 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:52.519 That's exactly what it sounds like, Yeah, with some talking or some gibberish 637 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.920 there in the middle. Yeah, because it's like I can't do that, 638 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.960 but it's like don't un't done. I mean, like whistles like then, 639 00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:06.679 and then the garbling starts in yeah, and then it whistles again like yeah, 640 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.880 and then it whistles again yeah. And that was the same night as 641 00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.960 the wood Knocks, or that was a different night. Oh, the wood 642 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:17.480 knock that he just played it, it was that was the same night. 643 00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:21.760 Okay, we about forty five. The whistle was about forty five minutes later. 644 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.119 Okay, same area, same recorder. I think the n twenty eight, 645 00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:30.960 twenty ninth. Go back over to the pictures and make sure that there's 646 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.760 nothing that we haven't. Well, you got several glyphs here. Oh yeah, 647 00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:42.320 the the little the small stick figure. I think, yeah, that's 648 00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.360 one of the exes that's out there that there. Yeah, I think there's 649 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:49.480 a few pictures of that one. It kind of looks like an aspirus asterus. 650 00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:53.280 Yeah, tell me mother, that happened naturally by mother? Yeah, 651 00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:00.159 that did? It did not fall off the trees like that. Now a 652 00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:04.000 side picture, a side a shot of it. Stay tuned for more. 653 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:10.679 Sasquatch out to sea will be right back after these messages. Something with hands 654 00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:16.280 wove that together. And then there's a X there X. Now you can 655 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:22.440 argue the xes that they fail naturally like that, but what are the chances 656 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:28.280 true? True? I'm just gonna shoot between them again. I think those 657 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.519 are boundary lines. Oh, there could be I found one just a few 658 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:37.519 days ago back up in in that area where usually the recorder and there's probably 659 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:42.039 about a quarter mile just straight woods, and one just happened to crop up 660 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.519 right right in the middle of almost like it's not like an open field, 661 00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.320 but there's there's no trees that are really directly above it, and it just 662 00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.639 it was like right there. So I'm like, am I in the danger 663 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.880 zone or am I about to enter the danger zone? Yeah? Yeah, 664 00:55:54.400 --> 00:56:00.440 because I've always viewed in X is like a warning day out, you know, 665 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:05.920 but it's all we don't know, and chances are we're problem I'm never 666 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.000 gonna know. Question I wanted to ask before we got out of here, 667 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:13.159 Johnny, Uh, do you have an opinion on bamboo? That might be 668 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:17.239 a crazy question, But in the areas that you're going into up there, 669 00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:22.679 are there any patches of bamboo? No, No, it's it's it's it's 670 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.440 straight up woods, woods, trees, bushes, a lot of briars. 671 00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:30.360 Yeah, I think we're more we're too north for for the bamboo, okay, 672 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.320 because we get it down here in Tennessee, so we have it. 673 00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:38.480 We have it in Arkansas. Carson brought up a good point x is our 674 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:44.760 native American sign language for camp home. Oh yeah, wow, I didn't 675 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.800 know that. I didn't know that either. I'm going to keep that in 676 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:52.119 mind. Yeah, you said you didn't want to plug your website earlier, 677 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.599 Johnny, but do it. You know you're here, go ahead and plug 678 00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.199 everything that you want to. Yeah, it's meat doc bigfoot dot com. 679 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:04.880 It's m E. D oc bigfoot dot com. You can pick up my 680 00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:09.760 uh YouTube page from there, my Facebook page. I just threw something out 681 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:15.920 there just yesterday. Was you hear a this either a deer or a dog 682 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:20.840 running walking toward the recorder and then you'll hear a tree knock in the background 683 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:25.559 and whatever was dear dog just like stops in the tracks. So yeah, 684 00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:29.320 we're I'm always updating it, always out there in the field. I'm kind 685 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.880 of like a boots on the ground kind of guy. Don't mind hopping down 686 00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:37.719 into creek beds or sloping down the snake boots. Yeah, like to see 687 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.920 what's out there. Yeah, Johnny did a really good job on his website. 688 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:45.320 It's really really well done. He's got all the audio on there that 689 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:50.880 you can listen to you, So I recommend that very highly. Johnny send 690 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.480 me links to everything that you wan't share, get it in the show notes. 691 00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.679 And I said, I'm gonna take this episode, upload it to podcast, 692 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.800 and those of you that are listening that we'll be listening on podcast. 693 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.639 I'll be sharing all those pictures and try to figure out a way to, 694 00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.400 you know, to do all of that for you guys. So I appreciate 695 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:14.920 that. Wayne, Thanks Johnny. We finally got it done, buddy. 696 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.840 How about that? Yeah, I was, thank you so much for having 697 00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:21.760 me, and it's gonna last. I got a ton more. If you 698 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.440 ever want to have me back on or whatever, we'll roll with it. 699 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:28.000 Thank you, Lisa, Wayne, thank you a lot to see. Thank 700 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.559 you so much. Yeah, man, and you are absolutely welcome to come 701 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:35.480 back. Johnny again, thank you so very much. And be safe out 702 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.239 there, buddy, Yeah, definitely will I will. All right, we'll 703 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:43.880 talk later, Bine. Okay, they say you don't gotta go home, 704 00:58:44.679 --> 00:59:20.920 but your cast day. I don't want to be chimes, jib chime everything, 705 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:30.239 collar back right back with you, Aye for me to stay right call 706 00:59:30.360 --> 01:00:30.440 it right away, Sssuri book control the pain coming down the pass