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We have one of the most amazing interviews that I think, guy I've ever
done. We've got Dan on the show and he's a hunter and he is
going to tell you one of the most amazing encounter stories that frankly I have
ever heard. You definitely don't want to miss that. But I know you
guys are anxious to get into this show, so I'm gonna stop talking.
You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the show. Hey, Lisa Wayne
audience of her normalodasey, thank you, thank you for having me on.
Yes, sir, Yes, they're been looking forward to this for a very
very long time. My first podcast. Yeah, I'm glad that you you
clarified that I was pretty sure that that's what you had said. So I
am honored that you chose to choose this one to come on, because thank
you, because you know, in all seriousness, you have been catching some
really really cool stuff out in North Carolina. What's the name of that is
that the Uari National Forest. No, we are we are east of the
ui or up in the Upper Coastal Plain. And the center of the activity
that that I research and a couple other guys is based around a place.
It's it's a rural state park. It's called Meadoc Mountain State Park. Mead
Doc's but Meadock. And it's not necessarily in the park because all throughout the
area it's pretty rural. It's got just thousands of thousands of acres of woods
and bluff, swamps, creeks. It's a it's a very secluded area.
Telling the people, the audience and everyone. And I'm gonna take this and
upload it to podcast form as well. If it we'll reach quite a few
more people that way that people check out. If you any chance you get,
check out Johnny Tucker stuff. It's really really cool. He's doing a
great job. I've been trying for a couple of years to convince him to
join animal research, but he's doing his own thing out there, and I
can't blame him for that. Johnny, tell everybody how you got your start
in this crazy world of bigfoot research and how long ago how you got your
start. And yeah, well, back in the nineteen seventies when I was
just a toddler, we went to our parents took us through a couple of
movies. I believe one was called Sasquatch and the other one was Creature from
Black Lake. Doesn't really get a lot of talk, but it was a
good movie. In between that and In Search of and the Lazy day afternoon
movie of Boggy Creek. It kind of got me, got my interest in
it. But there's only one thing that was wrong. I was a city
slicker. I was born and raised in a big city. So we me
and my wife moved down to North Carolina about twenty years ago, did some
research. Actually, we moved to the eastern part of North Carolina. A
lot of people don't relater associate eastern coast with Bigfoot, more or less look
toward toward the western part of the state with all the mountains. But uh,
yeah, we have activity off this way. Yeah, you certainly do.
Normally, I wait a little bit to get into the evidence. You've
got so much of it. You requested that we show a couple of these
prints first, so I've got those pretty much light out in order I believe
of what you wanted, I'm gonna pump this one up here, and you
let me know if that's where you want to start, okay. September twenty
twenty, it had rained the night before, and I got a hold of
myself and two other people. I went to there's a well, I'll just
I'll just come back a little bit the Meatock Mountain State Park. It's thirty
nine acres and there's only really less than ten trails to do that, so
there's a lot of just just wooded hidden areas. There's a creek that runs
through the park, and that's the activities kind of centered either side of the
creek. Now, we had it a random night before down in my house.
It was about like ten o'clock to midnight. So I met up with
myself and two other people and just was walking down an old service road.
You take the service road, you get down to the back trails out toward
the mountain, and sure enough, we were actually looking for prints because the
ground was pretty moist and it was eight thirty in the morning. That is
the one print we found, and I think we have a casting of that
that might be a right foot. What it looked like it was doing was
Yeah, that's the casting. It was walking along the service road and it
either had stepped accidentally into or just like walking along the side of the surface
road. It took its right foot. It stepped in a mud spot where
we got that print, went down to the creek, and the embankment of
the creek is all wet and all muddy. You can actually see a slid
print going down to the creek. It had to come back up the same
way, and it had stopped in another spot with its left foot. We
didn't we couldn't be able to get the casting of the left foot, and
from there not too sure where it went to. And that was September twenty
twenty. Okay, Johnny, uh this next print, you're ready for me
to pull it up? Yeah? Sure, that was a recent one that
was in August of this year. I'm sorry of last year. Last year
we really didn't have too much rain over here was a real dry, dry
summer, so the creek level dropped all the way down to within a foot
or so. And in the summertime I've been noticing strange footprints up in the
creek. It it's in an area that we usually get the tree knocks and
the trees fallen, and it's basically around the same size. So I'm going
back and forth. Is it a person because the creek is so low,
it's roughly the same size twelve and a half to thirteen, which it could
be something the activities there. So I was basically just keeping an eye on
that area for probably about three or four weeks, and we had a little
bit of a rain, so the creek on the other side was a little
a little bit wet. Went there one afternoon, I was actually meaning another
guy there, went there about four thirty in the afternoon, was going down
this trail to the creek, and I was probably about fifty feet from our
side of the creek when you hear this knock on into a tree and the
tree starts to fall. I mean it was a loud whack, and then
you hear the fibers of the tree falling. You can hear something back not
close to the creek though, but it's back. If you go back little
ways, you start to get up into the bluffs walking around back there,
so I kind of froze in my tracks. Didn't know exactly what was going
on, so I went down stream, set up a reporter like I usually
do, and by the time I got back to that spot where the tree
got hit up on our side, the one investigator actually made it there.
I put my hip waiters on, got down into the creek and found that
print on the other side and he's listening and he's actually hearing something back still
moving around back there, and it was a breaking breaking branches. You can
hear it going through the leaves. It didn't come up to me, you
know, up up to the creaking. Mainly just stayed back there. So
that was one interesting that was the sye. Actually that's the start of that
night there. So when we left the area it was probably about six thirty.
We had a good tree knock on a recorder about a half an hour
later. I think it's a day day knocker that that you have afternoon knock,
that you have way day knock. You're not sure which one it's it's
called, because let me just break in right here and say that Johnny and
I've been working on this together trying to set up a you know, the
best show that we can to to display what he's catching. So we have
several audio clips. I'm gonna be playing, but while we were waiting to
come on, Johnny was having a hard time hearing those. So I'm gonna
go ahead and play one now, and audience members and Lisa help me and
let me know if if maybe it's just Johnny set up because in the past
we haven't had trouble playing audio. So I'm gonna try one real quick,
but I'm gonna look for that one you said, what day knock? Is
that what you said? Yeah, da day knicker afternoon knock. I think
i'll label it. Okay, I've got sever we're here, so I'm going
through them. About seven seconds. I think knock afternoon. Yeah, there
you go. Is that it? Okay? Let's try this. Can y'all
hear that? Okay? I spoke over it, so I'm gonna play it
again. It's only five seconds long. We cut it up a little bit
and I'm gonna play it again. Lisa, are you hearing it? Yeah?
I can hear it. Can you hear the knock? Okay, let's
do it one more time. To me, that sounds like was it raining?
Johnny? No, No, it was just an average summer day,
nice and nice and clear, hot Muggie still meaning like totally still. Okay,
what's the audience saying, Lisa, can they hear it? Tippy could
hear Sandrick could hear Carson could hear it, Danny could hear it? Okay?
Yeah, Johnny and I were talking. He he bought a new setup
for the show. He's got an awesome blue Yeddie mic right there. But
I guess having some issues with Johnny stuff coming through. So as long as
you guys can hear it, Johnny Oles can hear it, that's good.
I've heard a thousand times. Yeah, all right. So that knock was
a half an hour after we left the area because we went back to our
campsite because we're gonna go out that night and at midnight, well, I'll
back up, just going over the past years and listening to audio stuff and
finding like a smaller footprint up in that area and also a shelter, I
got a good feeling that there's like a juvenile that's hanging out back there.
So you got that knock, and then at midnight is where I think it's
calling the owls. Where are you going to go to next there? Yeah,
the juvenile calling the owls. Listen to the tone of the voice it's
it's a it's a higher pitch. To me, it's almost sounds like a
little child juvenile ill. Okay, I heard at that time over my end,
Oh did you okay? Yeah? What do you off thing? What
do you think about that? Lisa? Um a couple of questions, Um,
I could hear I could hear him call in that that? The Owls
finally started answering, correct, yes, right, yeah, that's where it
again? Yeah, okay, where you want to go now? So later
on and night, I don't think he had the audio clip of this,
but about six am, quarter to seven in the morning, you know,
I got something kind of like walking through the area, and probably about ten
minutes later we got a good another good tree knock it was. That was
close to seven am. I got all those on my website metac bigfoot dot
com. But if you show the smaller print, the juvenile print I got
a few summers ago, and also the show that I found. Um,
I'm not sure I've got I've got one more print that I can show because
you're kind of limited on I do have it? Is that what you're saying,
Yeah, yeah, you should have it? Well, I mean you
sent several but I wasn't able to put on all of them on here,
so okay, this is the other one. Yeah, yeah, I definitely
look smaller. I's eight inches and a six inches wide. Found that in
a creek bed two twenty twenty read in the middle of the summertime. It
was a short creek bed um, and it was going toward the creek,
down an embankment and toward the creek. Okay, I also got another one
back in that area. Didn't really turn out too good. Um, I
should have picked the pine straw from from the photo, but I kind of
had a trick it a little bit. Uh. In uh twenty twenty,
we had a lot of rain in the creek basically overflowed probably about three or
four times, and is it drained back down. It took a lot of
the in this one area. It took a lot of the pine straw and
all that pine bark and leaves, and it kind of pushed the read out.
And what it did was it left a huge mud bed. It was
it's got to be about six feet wide but about twenty feet long. And
suck a couple of apples right smack dab in the middle one time, just
to see what we're coming near and grab it and put two up in the
front, two up in the back. The two in the back were still
there, and you can see a little like a little raccoon prints. The
two up in the front totally gone, nothing absolutely around it for like two
feet. And then you see this impression in the mud at what it looked
like was a left foot step, but the majority of the footprint was the
like the toes and in the ballpark was stuck in the mud were I would
imagine that the weight if it was having the apples that it's it's stepped down
with its left foot, put its weight forward and then snatched them up.
But that's uh. That was another eight inch print read up around that area.
Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out to Seaward right back after these messages,
guys, I'm telling you, you know, every episode that we do.
I'm looking at my computer here and I've got my other computer to the left,
and I've got my TV, a TV mounted up above me right here,
and I'll look, I'm looking at the picture of that print on the
hd TV. This the picture that you're getting or here on your phone or
on your computer does not do it justice it the quality, it's pretty fresh.
Yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty good. It
was a good footprint. If you guys get a chance to watch it on
a TV on a high depth television, go back and look at this print.
I'm I'll pop it up there one more time. Yeah, that's the
definition on these things are incredible. Well, the big toe is what stands
out to me, the big toe, and then and then the mud,
the the the actual mud between the other toes. Yeah, human would stepped
down and you get that kind of like squishy between your big toe and your
other toes. Yeah. Carson's got a good question here, Johnny. How
do you feel when you first see these tracks? Your emotions? It's justifying.
It's uh, all these hours of audio and tree knocks and finding uh
tree breaks and axes, it's uh, it's kind of like getting a little
bit of the Holy grill finding finding footprints, Finding footprints and a good footprint
is is very special. Yep. That's that's a great way to describe it,
right there, Johnny. I found several tracks while I've been doing this,
and I don't know that I found any that look as good as that,
So I can't really speak to what my emotions would be if I found
one that breash and that d tailed. So I mean those are really really
impressive. Yeah, you wanted to pull up some possible net. Yeah,
that's right. I've got a couple here. I mean, pull this one
up. First. I was back in that area about two months beforehand.
That was not there, and it was well. When I went back in
the area, it was still the end of wintertime, going in in spring
because I think that might be May. And I come back about two months
later and that that is there. Oh wow, and it's um the area
doesn't flood back there, so the sticks and everything couldn't be piled up with
with water. It almost looks like it was placed there. And you can
see like a little kind of like a little cubbyhole kind of entrance in there.
And it was probably about i'd see about six feet long, and it's
it can't be more than about three feet wide. Uh. I wonder if
maybe were you by yourself, Johnny, Oh yeah, yeah, myself.
Yeah, well you you got a bigger sack than me. Let me just
go ahead and say that part in the language. People. I'm sorry about
that, but um, because I don't like to go out by myself,
especially when you know that there's activity. But I was just thinking if you
had another person with you, maybe have them stand beside it to take a
picture to kind of gauge the size this one? Is this a different one?
Right here? The same one? It's the same one. Okay,
So, Johnny, were you I'm assuming you at least looked in there.
I don't. I wouldn't. Yeah, I looked inside with a flashlight and
all that. I didn't see any hair. But it is dry in there,
so if if if a rain or a light rain would come down,
it's it still is dry inside there. But I didn't find any heir or
anything inside. Yeah, that's why I asked that, because it seems like
a really good place to get some e DNA, if not legitimate DNA.
Right right, Okay, where where you gonna go next? Johnny? What?
What else? What else? Are you got? Some tree knocks the
trees that are getting hit by are the uh the knocks that are actually breaking
the trees? I think I sent you about three of them. Yeah,
I got some close by knocks. Trees tree hit maybe tree hit okay,
knock afternoon close by knock. We're gonna do the close by knock. Yeah,
and play it one more time, Julie. Are are y'all hearing a
thing? Yeah, a grunt or like a like a whoop from a differ
from a maybe a distance off. Play it again, Johnny, did you
pick up on that? No, that sucks. You can't hear it.
Let's hear what the audience has to say. Let's play it again before and
after the knob. Yeah, that was just a recent one too. That
was back in February thirteenth of this year, about nine ten at night.
I wonder if that audience members let us know if y'all heard that. Sanders
got a question? Yeah, Johnny, are you armed when you go out?
I was not armed the first time, and after hearing a my first
time out, I was basically just like a newbie and I did. Ah.
It was a great in the middle of October. It was a real
hot summer that year or twenty nineteen. I went out there and it had
like about a foot little tire thumper that you get at like a truck stopper
or so. I did a couple of tree knocks where I parked my car.
I went down this one trail did one single tree knock when I was
going down and then my plan of attackle was just rolling nice and quiet and
see what happens. The trail goes down to a creek about five minutes later
and got to the creek, started going downstream, low tree knock up on
the bluff on the other side, calm conditions. After that, I start
caring a pistol with me. Smart, very smart. Yeah. Got a
question, Okay, do you review your videos in zoom frame by frame?
I see lots of beings there. I don't really buy into that kind of
stuff, the paraphernalia. Yeah, not not too much because I'm out there
so I got a good feeling for the whole area. So if you look
at a picture and your zoom in you see something and I'm like, wow,
I don't think it was there. But if you see the picture and
I don't really buy answer that though. That's a good question, though,
yeah, yeah, I mean it makes you question things, and like you
said a lot of times that you know the area that you're in, and
it's yeah, it's best not to second guess yourself all right on stuff like
that. Okay, we got one, uh knock afternoon. You want to
go with that one? Yeah, sure, I think you already played that
one. How about okay, daytime tree fall or tree hidden fall. There's
a whistle here? Oh yeah, the whistle. We got that back in
December. Okay, yeah, I'm not seeing those other Do you see when
that says power knock? Yes, I do. Let's go ahead and get
that one. Let roll. It looks like a cluster, yeah, it
looks it sounds like it maybe tap the tree and then hit the tree twice
and then a tree falls. Let's do that again. To me, it
almost sounds like a tree snapping and falling, like cracking as it's falling.
Let's do it again. Yeah. That was June twenty twenty one, two
fifteen in the morning. Oh wow, that late fifteen am. Day knock
fall. Oh yeah, that's a good one too. And okay, and
then we'll do tree hit and fall after that. So this is the day
knock fall. I thought I heard a whoop there at the beginning of that
one too. Yeah, play that again. I am one more time,
saint. Yeah, yeah, just at two seconds. Then you really get
able whoop? Did you notice that? Johnny here, I haven't known that
was it that was five thirty in the evening too? In the evening.
Something I'm really impressed with before we go on to the next one, Johnny,
is your attention to detail. You're telling us what time these things happened
and where and the weather conditions. And that's the sign of a really,
really good researcher. I definitely that's something I need to improve on, and
myself is the diligent note taking. What's your background, Johnny, what's my
background? Yeah? I went to school a couple of years for electrical engineering,
but now I worked for the railroad system. Okay, what one with
that day? Knockfall? Yes, right, Okay, so we're gonna tree
hitting fall now. Yeah. Again. You can hear it at the end.
I guess the sounded a bit falling. It kind of sounds like fireworks
a little bit, but it's the leaves falling through the other leads. It's
really cool. This one here says well loop Child vocal places is really really
good from getting. I mean, it's not only just bigfoot, but it's
also paranormal stuff. Got EVPs Uh, this this is a ghost child.
This is probably the better of the two that I've gotten. But also you've
gotten the ladies speak, Um, I got one just actually less two months
ago. It's real faint and you I'm not sure she's talking English though,
and she says a couple of words and then she kind of like, uh,
does a little tone almost like she's singing. But that's probably the best
EVP i've gotten. It's a ghost child. Okay, let's play that.
There's something there again. Let's play it again. What time was that,
Johnny? I think it's about ten o'clock at night. That's quell the woods.
But it also there was a huge thunderstorm that was approaching the area,
So I don't know if that kind of generated it's singing. It sounded like
it's kind of like I was gonna say, it almost sounds sing songy exactly.
Glad y'all said that, And I didn't have to, because that that's
what I was thinking. Something a lady singing is what it sounds about.
If you're out in the woods ten o'clock at not ten o'clock, it's very
dark in the south, Um, and you hear some woman singing out in
the middle of no, Oh, it's time to go. That's I'm gonna
do it A couple more times. Yeah, that's crazy, pretty good.
Yeah, I'm singing a question here from Daniel Jackson. Daniel probably came in
light and didn't see that. We ask everyone to capitalize, to put the
questions in all caps. That's probably why you're not seeing at leasta. No
that that's fine, Daniel, any more questions, Try to put them in
all caps, please, buddy. Why do you think they keep knocking down
trees? I think the time that we were there in August, the one
that you play, they hit the tree and oh you didn't be didn't play
a book. We went down to the creek. If there was the juvenile
on our side of the creek back up in the woods, I think it
was either sending a message just to kind of like a warning. Other than
that, I'm not sure show of strength. If there's nobody out there at
nighttime, why would you hit a tree and so hard that the tree would
fall. I mean, the majority of the tree knocks that I hear out
there, either in person or have an audio record or a single knocks,
and I pretty much I kind of it's it's like a locator. That's that's
that's my view on it. Either they'll knock and then you'll get a one
uh in the distance either knocking back, or if they're walking through an area,
they'll knock single knocks, just trying to get an idea of before they
are. Yeah, Daniel, Daniel the one to just ask that question.
That is Daniel Jackson. I've interviewed him a couple of times. He is
a spirit medium. Um. He commented that right here that may be spirit
singing. That's what I would think. Yeah, what is the history of
that land? I mean, it's a it's a park, right, it's
it's it's a state park. Um, there was there was a lot of
mining back in the Civil War era, probably about time. Ten miles away
from the park, they did some ore mining and also some gold mining.
I talked to one of the guys is that now owns one of the gold
operations there. They said that the shafts have been all blowing up, but
there's five miles of tunnels somewhere if you can find it. But he said
that probably the state has got some kind of laser sensors in the opening,
you know, to two detects something going in there. But just this family
owned area, I would imagine Native Americans were or there. That was my
next question if there was any Native American activity on that. So, Johnny,
you're saying that there's a cave system there, we were wondering where are
they hiding? I mean, it's it's either back in the woods, you
know, or ducking down in some kind of caves and stuff like that.
So when we've seen that there's abandoned gold mines ten miles from the place,
you know, that wouldn't that kind of make sense if there's some some kind
of mining underground tunnels somewhere. That's that's a hot question in the big food
community is is do they go in minds? I think they and I'm sorry,
through caves. I think they do. I think that's where they're staying.
That's why we don't see them that much. A lot of people,
especially a guy that I met early on I really respected, He absolutely refused
to believe that they stayed in caves. And his thinking was, they're so
elusive and they stay away from us and stay hidden, so well, why
would they ever back themselves into a corner and back themselves out? You know,
so they can't get out basically, But my thinking is they know though
they have to know those cave systems better. They have to know where they
can go, where they can easily get you know, in and out and
pluses if it's way back in the woods or way back up in the bluffs.
I mean, what human is going to go back there kind of exploring
it and looking for it exactly. Well, here in Arkansas, we've got
so many wild cave systems and the state you know, kind of maps them
out and like what you said, the state will put greats over the pave
entries to you know, keep people out because there's petroglyphs in there. There's
you know, endangered salamanders. We've got the ozaric hell bender. It's like
this big salamander that we're trying, this endangered species that they're keeping people out.
But that's that's that's singing. I keep circling back of that. That
that's crazy. End. You have the pictures of the other campsite at the
orb behind the cap. I do. I'm going to get to that,
but before we do, we have got hit with several kind of questions.
Do some of those real quick? Go ahead? Lisa Johnny thoughts on elementals.
I'm pretty open minded, um, I wouldn't rule it out. I
really haven't really looked into the subject at all, but I'm open minded,
level headed, so sure, okay, and tree knocks for a form of
communication, a warning of hunters, hikers, et cetera. Don't you,
Danny state stating, great question, thank you? Yeah? Do you agree
with that? Johnny? Yes? Yes, I think we all do.
Yeah, yeah, sure do All right, we had Tiffany had one?
Where'd she go? I got it right here? Okay, just a basic
do you ever get creeped out? Uh? Not in that area? When
I'll make the short story short. When it's probably about my third time hiking
by myself, I was carrying so too thirty in an afternoon. I was
on a trail that's about two miles two and a half miles. It basically
goes out, loops around, comes back, goes out along the creek,
comes back. There is a cluster of woods where the woodline kind of comes
in a bit. When I was out and starting to come back, there
was an ax formation up along the surface road where it was. And for
some reason, I mean, I can't explain it. It was just like
like my sixth sense was just kicking in and I just I was like frozen
in my tracks. I don't know if it was anxiety for it was fear.
But I managed to push through it because if I didn't, I was
going to take the long way around, and it was already starting to get
about four o'clock in the afternoon. I made it through the area, came
down over a couple of hills, and where you exit the one trail,
it kind of opens up into a meadow. I had stop about fifty feet
from the meadow, and I was doing something on my cell phone, and
here comes this loud yell back from where I was hiking, and the way
I can describe it, it was probably about three four or five seconds long.
It was really really deep, and it was very powerful because the whole
woods behind me just shook. I just froze me, and I didn't know
if something was going to be coming my way. It was it was far
enough back, you know, it wasn't close by. It was far enough
back and for it just to shake the whole woods. That's probably about one
of the only times I got I got freaked out or got afraid. Stay
tuned for more Sasquatch out to see We'll be right back. After these messages.
If it's only happened to you once or twice, man, you're doing
a lot better than most of us, because just about every time I go
out, I'll get creeped out. A friend of mine asked me, don't
you guys get freaked, you know, freaked out when you're out like this.
We went out nighttime, and I'm like, well, in a way,
it may sound weird, but you kind of get desensitized to it.
I mean, you hear a knock, you hear close by knock, and
you just kind of get get used to it, like like in the rhythm
or something. It's it is a crazy adrenaline rush when you get not only
if you get a tree knock, but if you get a response. Yeah,
yeah, that makes everything that you've been doing worth it. It's such
an awesome, awesome feeling to know that, well, the thing we unless
you see the creature doing the knock, you don't know. But you feel
like if you do a knock, a couple of knocks, then you get
one back within a thirty second to a minute times made It's such an amazing
feeling. I just found something very interesting. Circling back to the voices,
that area. A guy named Weller owned that area, named it me Doc
after province in Bordeaux, France for vineyards, and he organized and operated an
academy for area children. Oh yeah, very nice. He also had a
vineyard up there. Yeah, I had a vineyard. Yep. Okay,
Johnny, you wanted to show the ORB. If you show the camp site
and I'll explain what's going on, you know it. Go ahead and start
explaining that, Johnny, because I didn't get that one but up. But
I can do it real quick and just hit me a minute. That was
back in January two, I think it was twenty one. There were some
campers out there, probably about a few weeks beforehand, and they were reporting
that these little pea stones were being thrown at their tent. So me and
myself and another guy we decided just to set off just fake fake camp site,
just to see what it would happen. And we did. What I
did was laid out a big tarp in the bottom, put a small two
man tent so if anything is going to hit the tent, it's going to
roll down and the tarp's gonna catch it. And I set up a couple
game cameras I really haven't had any success with it on motion mode, so
I put it on time lapse mode, and so it was either going to
take a picture like every fifteen minutes or every twenty minutes, you know,
day or night. It was rolling for about four days and caught an ORB.
I would probably assume that, like myself, the first thing I seen
it, I was like, it's like about one forty something or other in
the morning, somebody's back there with a flashlight checking out my checking out my
off. No one's there. But I also had an audio recorder ladies and
gentlemen in the tent with an external microphone coming out and looping up on the
top. Now, back in January, the leaf litter back there, it
is probably about three three inches and it is dry, dry, dry,
dry, So anything walking back there's going to make a noise. And I
would probably assume that that orbs maybe about twelve feet from the edge of the
say where the picnic table is twelve feet back in the woods and it only
slopes down about two feet. So absolutely nothing on audio recorder in that timeframe
of something or somebody walking around, because if someone wents back there to flash
light shining it around. You're definitely going to hear it, right. You
did a great job overlaying this picture. Yeah, yeah, thanks. I'm
just going back and forth between them so you can see in the daytime there's
there's nothing there that could be reflecting any kind of lie. Right, And
that's the that's the only picture at all that I've gotten with that or everything
else. You know, in that same setup was just all just nighttime.
Just all black knew was that a trocam. It was just yeah, there
was just a little troll cam and just set it on time laps mode.
So it's gonna snap a picture, you know. I think I had a
setup for like twenty minutes. It's just gonna Can you go back to that
park picture real quick? Line that one, uh huh, and then go
back to the orb. It looks like there's something sitting on the limb of
that tree in the daytime. No, in the in the orb picture,
Okay, it looks like it's sitting on the branch. What tree are you
talking about? List If you go straight up from the orb, there's a
there's a branch that crosses like this, and it looks like something sitting on
that branch. There is something vertical. Yeah, let's look at it in
the day WHOA, what do you think of that, Johnny, that's good
catch. I left, I'll left to zoom in on that picture. I'll
pull it off on my computer and see if I'll see if I've seen anything.
Yeah, I don't know if it's another limb. Go go back to
the daytime picture again. It seems like it's right between those two trees.
You got one tree in the left, that's yeah, forefront, one tree
in the back. It's kind of like you're reading between those two. Yeah.
The only thing it could be is just a break in the limbs where
that's letting the light through. Yeah. I do see like a vertical spot
there, but the same amount of light should be coming on the other sides.
Yeah. Are you talking like moon light? Yeah, like moonlight coming
through. What wouldn't it be picked up in the other shots though? Exactly
for that though, Yeah, that's what that's the only instance. Yeah,
that's that's the only picture with with it in there. That's that's a good,
good catch. So that's awesome. See we keep her around for more
than just catching questions all those years in law enforcement. I there you go,
that's there's definitely something. It looks like there's definitely something there. Yeah,
where do you want to go from there? It's the mysteries. Do
you have the one audio clip? I think it says knock three. You
know there was a boy scout camp there also back in the nineteen twenties.
Oh yeah, okay, tree knock three. Yeah, I think it's tree
knock three. I got that right here. I'll set it up for you.
It's it got to a point I think that was in twenty twenty in
the summertime. I worked midnight shifts, so I cruised up there after work,
probably about eight o'clock, and it got to a point where I would
go down the trail down to the creek on the other side of the creek
would I would get a knock just playing his day was real calm. It
sounds like someone taking a bat and hitting a pine tree. So I went
down there one morning. I didn't have any of my stuff. I had
an audio recorder going, and I just basically just wanted to kind of look
in the creek just to see if anything's moving around. Get down to point
I stopped. I was like, where's the knock? No knock? So
I started heading down creek. A knock on the other side comes from down
creek, i'd say, and maybe fifty yards, maybe a hundred yards,
so I didn't I didn't even have my wood knock or anything with me,
so I was just doing cheek pops because it was so still and so quiet
out there. So it was it was down the creek it knocked. I
started going walking downstream. I think it was coming upstream. I had did
a cheek pop, and it replied with one that was pretty much parallel with
me. I continued going downstream where it was, did another cheek pop.
It knocked back up here where I was in the start off with, and
then I went back up here. I kind of like just sat down on
the embankment just to see if I can see anything. I had some high
powered binoculars, but the leaves and everything was so thick. I didn't see
anything. I cheek pop a couple more times and then got the last response,
which was you'll hear me popping, you'll hear a hawk, and then
you'll you'll hear the reply, and then you'll hear my reply. Here we
go all the ship. Yeah, my thoughts exactly out of my mouth.
Um, yeah, oh man, let that that morning? How about hell
do you cheap pop that layout? First of all, it's just it's just
so quiet down there. It's just like it just echoes. That's a let's
do that one more time. That's a lengthy one is twenty seven seconds,
so we'll just do it one more time. M all these ship Yeah,
is there anyone that's listening right now that's not listening in headphones? Go back
and listen with headphones if you can, because it's some cool stuff that that
that he's sharing here. It's amazing. What's next, buddy? I think
that's I think that's everything pretty much. I sent you on the phone.
I was, I know, I was burning your phone up the other day.
A lot more stuff up on my website. I basefully just started a
website about three years ago, not to promote anything, just to kind of
keep everything that I caught, just like an one spot not taking up the
home PC. So I got a lot more stuff on the website. You
said you had one recording of a child talking like maybe in another language or
was that the singing one. It was it's it's it's a woman. It's
actually twice it's really really faint. She says a couple words that. The
first one, she says a couple of words and then there's like a really
brief pause and then the words repeat itself brief pause, and then the words
repeat itself again and its goes like in the distance. And the second one
I got was just a few months ago. She said like two words and
she and then it was like a kind of like she was singing basically.
I don't know if it's Native American or if it's old Europeans or what,
or maybe maybe I'm just not hearing hearing exactly what she was saying. Yeah,
I'm just going over there's a lot of paranormal activity there. I'm just
going over one more time to see if there's any this audio that I think
maybe we didn't share because it seemed like there was one of us all oh
the whistle, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the the you
have the tree knock before that close knock, close knock. Yeah, you
sent me those two together, so I'm sure that. Yeah, that's it.
You're gonna do the knock first. Yep, here we go, let's
do it again. Yeah, that was a close spy knock. That was
back in the end of December, and that was about nine fifteen at night.
And then then a whistle like about ten o'clock, same recorder, same
area. MS. Play that again, Okay, let's do it one more
time. Are you hearing the little talking after the whistle? Let's try it
again. Right after that first whistle, it sounds like the chatter. Yeah,
let's do it. Let's listen again. And Tiffany here says there's a
low gruff yeah, and then Carson says it's like a garbled type And that's
what I was hearing. That That almost like the samurai how they say the
samurai sounds, or like that, the garbled talk. Can you play that
one more time? Yes, ma'am. Daniel here says, sounds like two
high notes, one long low note, then a few more low notes.
That's exactly what it sounds like, Yeah, with some talking or some gibberish
there in the middle. Yeah, because it's like I can't do that,
but it's like don't un't done. I mean, like whistles like then,
and then the garbling starts in yeah, and then it whistles again like yeah,
and then it whistles again yeah. And that was the same night as
the wood Knocks, or that was a different night. Oh, the wood
knock that he just played it, it was that was the same night.
Okay, we about forty five. The whistle was about forty five minutes later.
Okay, same area, same recorder. I think the n twenty eight,
twenty ninth. Go back over to the pictures and make sure that there's
nothing that we haven't. Well, you got several glyphs here. Oh yeah,
the the little the small stick figure. I think, yeah, that's
one of the exes that's out there that there. Yeah, I think there's
a few pictures of that one. It kind of looks like an aspirus asterus.
Yeah, tell me mother, that happened naturally by mother? Yeah,
that did? It did not fall off the trees like that. Now a
side picture, a side a shot of it. Stay tuned for more.
Sasquatch out to sea will be right back after these messages. Something with hands
wove that together. And then there's a X there X. Now you can
argue the xes that they fail naturally like that, but what are the chances
true? True? I'm just gonna shoot between them again. I think those
are boundary lines. Oh, there could be I found one just a few
days ago back up in in that area where usually the recorder and there's probably
about a quarter mile just straight woods, and one just happened to crop up
right right in the middle of almost like it's not like an open field,
but there's there's no trees that are really directly above it, and it just
it was like right there. So I'm like, am I in the danger
zone or am I about to enter the danger zone? Yeah? Yeah,
because I've always viewed in X is like a warning day out, you know,
but it's all we don't know, and chances are we're problem I'm never
gonna know. Question I wanted to ask before we got out of here,
Johnny, Uh, do you have an opinion on bamboo? That might be
a crazy question, But in the areas that you're going into up there,
are there any patches of bamboo? No, No, it's it's it's it's
straight up woods, woods, trees, bushes, a lot of briars.
Yeah, I think we're more we're too north for for the bamboo, okay,
because we get it down here in Tennessee, so we have it.
We have it in Arkansas. Carson brought up a good point x is our
native American sign language for camp home. Oh yeah, wow, I didn't
know that. I didn't know that either. I'm going to keep that in
mind. Yeah, you said you didn't want to plug your website earlier,
Johnny, but do it. You know you're here, go ahead and plug
everything that you want to. Yeah, it's meat doc bigfoot dot com.
It's m E. D oc bigfoot dot com. You can pick up my
uh YouTube page from there, my Facebook page. I just threw something out
there just yesterday. Was you hear a this either a deer or a dog
running walking toward the recorder and then you'll hear a tree knock in the background
and whatever was dear dog just like stops in the tracks. So yeah,
we're I'm always updating it, always out there in the field. I'm kind
of like a boots on the ground kind of guy. Don't mind hopping down
into creek beds or sloping down the snake boots. Yeah, like to see
what's out there. Yeah, Johnny did a really good job on his website.
It's really really well done. He's got all the audio on there that
you can listen to you, So I recommend that very highly. Johnny send
me links to everything that you wan't share, get it in the show notes.
And I said, I'm gonna take this episode, upload it to podcast,
and those of you that are listening that we'll be listening on podcast.
I'll be sharing all those pictures and try to figure out a way to,
you know, to do all of that for you guys. So I appreciate
that. Wayne, Thanks Johnny. We finally got it done, buddy.
How about that? Yeah, I was, thank you so much for having
me, and it's gonna last. I got a ton more. If you
ever want to have me back on or whatever, we'll roll with it.
Thank you, Lisa, Wayne, thank you a lot to see. Thank
you so much. Yeah, man, and you are absolutely welcome to come
back. Johnny again, thank you so very much. And be safe out
there, buddy, Yeah, definitely will I will. All right, we'll
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